Breathing Beyond Your Ancestors with Alyse Bacine

Air Date - 17 June 2025

Breathing Beyond Your Ancestors: Releasing Generational Trauma Through Breathwork with Alyse Bacine

In this illuminating episode, trauma expert and breathwork pioneer Alyse Bacine shares powerful insights on how our ancestors’ experiences continue to live in our bodies, influencing our present-day challenges. Whether you’re struggling with unexplained anxiety, repeating relationship patterns, or financial blocks, this episode offers a revolutionary approach to healing that honors both science and ancestral wisdom.

About the Guest:

Alyse Bacine is a pioneering force in trauma healing and transformational breathwork. With 24 years of expertise and a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology, she bridges the worlds of clinical mental health and somatic healing through her revolutionary methodology, The Metamorphosis Method™.

After a decade serving as a school counselor and implementing groundbreaking meditation programs, Alyse developed a unique approach combining cutting-edge trauma tools with advanced breathwork and energy healing. This methodology creates predictable, permanent transformation by addressing mind, body, and energy field simultaneously – something missing from both traditional therapy and somatic practices.

Featured in Oprah Magazine, Well and Good, and Nylon, her work has generated over seven figures in revenue and transformed hundreds of women’s lives. The Metamorphosis Method™ stands apart as the only system effectively closing the gap between clinical expertise and somatic healing.

With certifications in Social Emotional Learning and Mindfulness Practices, plus extensive experience in both therapeutic and somatic modalities, Alyse has created a comprehensive approach that revolutionizes how women heal and grow. Learn more at https://www.alysebreathes.com/.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:23):
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and the personal journey that led them to the transformational
work they do in the world. Inspired conversations to empower
you on your path to authentic, soulful living.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Welcome to Inspired Conversations. I'm your host, mindset elevation coach
publisher of Aspire Magazine, Linda Joy, and I am so
grateful that you are circling up with us today. You
are in truly illuminating episode. Trauma expert and breathwork pioneer

(01:04):
aleast be Seeing shares powerful insights on how our ancestors
experiences continue to live in our bodies, influencing our present
day challenges. This is such an important conversation, my friends.
Elise is a pioneering force in trauma healing and transformational

(01:25):
breath work. With twenty four years of expertise and a
master's degree in counseling psychology, she bridges the worlds of
clinical mental health and somiatic healing through her revolutionary methodology,
the Metamorphosis Method. After a decade servant as a school

(01:45):
counselor and implementing groundbreaking meditation programs, Alise developed this unique
approach combining cutting edge trauma tools with advanced breathwork and
energy healing. This method, which we'll be talking about today,
it creates predictable, permanent transformation by addressing mind, body, and

(02:09):
energy field simultaneously, something missing from both traditional therapy and
somatic practices. She's been featured in Oprah magazine, Well and
Good Nylon, and her work has generated over seven figures
in revenue and transphoned hundreds of women's life I'm honest
to say. She's also the cover feature for a Spire

(02:32):
magazine in the current issue. Welcome Elise, Thank.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
You for having me. Wow, that was quite an introduction.
I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, I was drawn to you because of the combination
of your work. I just loved your vibe, the energy,
and I can always feel when someone has this deep
passion for what they do, and so you know, I
spent time on your website, learned a little bit about
your bastackground. I'm like, oh, I got to get hurt
in a Spire magazine because I think this is such

(03:06):
a powerful tool. And I think many of us know
about breath work, right, Oh, maybe we've heard of it,
never experienced it. But it's your combination in your background
that really enthralled me. So let's go back a little
before you even began this work. When did you go

(03:28):
into breath work for your own personal journey?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yes, so I actually discovered breath work when I was
nineteen years old, So back in two thousand and one,
before it was you know, pretty common. Like now everyone
kind of knows about it. Back then, no one was
really talking about it. I was nineteen years old. I
was in at the end of my freshman year of college,

(03:52):
and I was really just struggling in my life with
an eating disorder and anxiety and I just and understand why.
So I started looking for answers and I discovered yoga,
and I started working at a yoga studio and they
had a breathwork class there and I took it, and
I don't even know what drew me to it, because

(04:14):
it wasn't like I had some profound experience with it
the first time, but I just had a knowing that
I was supposed to do it, and I was supposed
to do it more. And I just quickly became so
involved in it, Like I started taking all of the
workshops that the Breathwork Center here in Philadelphia had, and

(04:35):
I took three years of training to become a breathworker
and then a breathwork teacher, and I just really immersed
myself in it in my early twenties and became a
breathworker pretty early on, and it really just changed my life.
It helped me heal, It helped me understand why I
was struggling, and it really helped me to see my

(04:57):
entire life differently and have this person perspective and this
tool that you know, most people my age didn't have.
So it's something that has been a huge part of
my life for more than half of my life at
this point.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
I always I always love finding the thread with my
gift my guests because I've discovered, in nine years of
hosting this plus producing fourteen summits, that many of us
our pain, our mess our struggles actually fueled the purpose
that we now have in the world. And it sounds
like that's the same for you. Your struggles back then led

(05:34):
you down this path and here you are today changing
women and people's lives, all because of your own personal journey.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yes, exactly, And I think that is really the thing
that leads us to the medicine or the gifts that
we have is through the journey of healing them and
having to go through your own process of figuring out
exactly what it is that you need to do and
what it is you need to face and walk through,

(06:06):
and then that's the thing that you're able to help
other people with. And that has definitely been my journey
as well.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
It's powerful. Thank you for sharing that. And then is
that as that unfolded that led you to get into counseling.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yes. So, you know when I first started learning breath
work and teaching it, I was teaching it all over
the city, you know, when I was in my early twenties,
and I had some private clients, but I definitely was
not at that at the point in my life at
that time that I was ready to go full force
and start my own business. I both of my parents

(06:43):
were teachers, so you know, I had a bachelor's degree
in education, and I tried to be a teacher, but
I just hated it. But I remember at the school
I worked at, I would look at the school counselor
and I would think, I know I could do that job.
So I went back too, and I got my degree,
my master's degree in counseling psychology, and I became a

(07:05):
school counselor. And I was a school counselor for ten
years and it was great. I was very good at it.
And now looking back, I see that it was such
a necessary step on my path because if I didn't
have that experience, if I didn't have that training, then
I wouldn't have been able to develop my methodology that

(07:26):
I have today, because I think it it not only
has to do with the breath work of my own journey,
but also my experience, extensive experience working with traumatized children
and really understanding the effects of trauma on the developing
brain and doing my own research through interacting and observing

(07:47):
and making my own conclusions. I think that's what's a
huge part of what's informed my work, and I think
it's important to highlight that because so many people kind
of want to skip that step of like, oh, well,
I'm in this job and I don't like it and
I just want to start my own business. And I
always want to remind people that there's probably a reason

(08:07):
why you're where you are right now, there's something you
need to learn. This is an important step, and I
think whatever you end up doing in your life, all
of those steps end up feeding into ultimately what you're
meant to do.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh my god, it's so funny that they said this.
Our backgrounds are a little similar because I had a
needing disorder. I'm much older than you, but I had
an eating disorder when I was in my teens and
twenties and a lot of trauma and all that. And
when I look back now, elise every single experience, even

(08:42):
my struggles, even my most painful moments. I was a
high school dropout, runaway, single, wolfare mom, name it. I
look back and can see now why every single those,
every one of those circumstances helped me be who I
am today. Like, I don't look back with any regrets
or shame anymore. I did for a long time, but

(09:03):
I don't because I'm like, oh my goodness. Of course
I had to go through that so I can have
empathy and compassion for the woman I serve today. Of
course that book touched my life because I was meant
to be a magazine and book publisher. Like I can
look back and see all that, just as you can
now look back and see and guide your clients, as
you just beautifully said that everything really happens for a reason.

(09:27):
I know people don't like when we say that, but
I can say that about my own life. I see it.
Do you feel that statement too, or would you shave
it in a different way?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I mean, I feel like it's totally true. I think
that the thing that's hard with that is that can
be very hard to see in the moment, when you're
faced with a challenge, when you're really struggling with something,
when things aren't going your way or it feels like
nothing is working. I think those are the times when

(09:57):
it's hard to look at it that way because you
I can't see that perspective, and it's something you can
only really see after the fact. So I think that's
what can be challenging about it. But ultimately it's always
the case, you know, I don't think there's anything in
my life that I will look back on and say,
oh I regret that, or that shouldn't have happened, because

(10:19):
it all leads you ultimately to where you're meant to be,
and those experiences and walking through them is what gives
you the ability to help other people in the exact
way that you're meant to.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's exactly how I feel. We're going to take a
first break, my friends, and we'll be back in a moment.
You can visit and learn more about Elise in her
groundbreaking work at a lease breathes dot com and as
always all the links for bio and contact and for
all in the show notes. We'll be back in a moment,

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Speaker 2 (13:03):
Welcome back. You're listening to inspired conversations. I'm your host
Linda Joey. With me today is Pioneering force and Trauma,
Healing and transformational breathwork A Lease Bescene So at Lease,
when you merged everything, is that when you started to
notice some of the gaps in the healing and therapy

(13:23):
spaces that prompted you to create the metamorphosis method.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah. So I think it was a journey for me
because you know, when I was younger and learning breathwork,
I you know, I didn't know what I didn't know,
So I was just kind of learning and watching the
way other people did it. But then when I started
working as a school counselor, after the first couple of years,
I really started to see that just the general approach

(13:52):
to the way we handle trauma or the way we
handle therapy, or changing behaviors or getting better in general,
or making changes in general, it just didn't make sense
to me. You know, what I would often notice is
when I was working in schools, if a child was
misbehaving and they were getting in trouble and having a

(14:14):
lot of issues. All that we would look at was well,
how do we change this behavior? And they would do
things like, you know, give them a behavior chart and
every day they get a sticker and then they get
rewarded at the end of the week. And I'm like,
this is not actually solving the problem. It's trying to
mitigate a symptom. And I kept telling everybody at the school,

(14:35):
I was like, we need to look at what message
this behavior is telling us. What is this child trying
to tell us through this behavior, And if we can
understand that message, then we can address what's actually happening,
because that is the real way to change the behavior,
because ultimately, if you just try to change it through
managing symptoms, it always comes back, you know. And I'm

(14:56):
really sorry to see that pattern in a lot of
therapy spaces and some of the coaching spaces and healing spaces,
and I was like, we really need to be able
to get to the root of what's going on here.
And that was sort of what drove me to create
my methodology, which is you know, obviously centered around breathwork,

(15:18):
and one of my major tools that I use is
my Inner Child healing process, which is about pinpointing and
dissolving what I call your core wound, which is the root,
that one thing, that one pattern, that one belief that
you recreate across all areas of your life. And my
methodology is very much based on just simply addressing that

(15:40):
one thing, that root, cause that's affecting everything else. So
it's almost like your core wound is like the root
of the tree, and the branches of the tree are,
you know, all the areas of your life, your finances,
your career, your business, your relationships, your self worth. And
it's like, if we can address the root, then all
of the brand change for the better instead of trying

(16:02):
to address each branch separately. So that was kind of
the observation I made, and then the solution is really
just addressing this one thing and distilling it down to that,
and that is kind of the the crux of my process,
and the breathwork is a huge piece of it because

(16:23):
it goes beyond the mind and the intellect and into
the body and the energy field, and it allows you
to access the subconscious mind very quickly and process suppressed emotions,
which is a huge piece of the healing process. So
that was kind of my observation and solution is really

(16:44):
looking at it more of like, let's just get to
the start of the problem.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I love that because like even in mainstream medical which
I'm experiencing right now, they don't look for the cause.
They keep trying to treat the symptoms. I'm like, freak
the symptom. I need to know the cause, but they
don't think like that. So I switched over to functional medicine.
But it's very similar to what you said with that child, right,
that was a behavior, but there was a cause behind

(17:12):
it that they weren't looking at.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Absolutely. And you know, and even things that we think
are things that we should you know, cope with or manage,
like some thing like anxiety. Right, to me, anxiety is
a symptom that's not a cause. So instead of using
even a modality like breathwork to just cope with anxiety,
it's like, well, let's look at what is causing your anxiety,

(17:38):
and to me, it's not. You know, in a Western medicine,
they would say, well, you have anxiety, just disorder, And
to me that doesn't make sense because no one just
has anxiety disorder. There's something that's causing their anxiety, and
it's most likely something from early childhood that they're not
aware of. And that is you know, what my work
is all about is pinpointing and addressing what that is

(18:00):
and reconciling that so that you don't have to manage
your anxiety. It's not there anymore because you address the cause.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
And I'll tell you, with anxiety going through the roof
right now for so many people and receive in that news,
go no, you have the disorder. They need you now
more than ever because yeah, it's prolific right now. And
speaking to someone that I really struggle with severe anxiety
and depression for the first thirty years of my life

(18:29):
till I got on my spiritual personal development path. And
though it stays, you know, it's I feel like it's cleared.
I will have those moments that it comes back up
and I feel it so viscually in my body that
I can recognize it now before it can blow up

(18:49):
into anything else. But I have to listen to my
body give me those signals. In the early days, I
didn't know how to listen to my body because I
was so disconnected from it. Do you find that too,
that breath work helps the person reconnect with the body
that maybe they disassociated from or disconnected from our angry

(19:10):
at in some cases.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh absolutely, I think that. You know, as a society,
we are not taught to handle our emotions. You know,
we're taught that emotions are inconvenient and uncomfortable and we
shouldn't feel them. It's even very normalized when someone's crying
to say, oh, don't cry, right, but actually crying is

(19:33):
really good. It's important to cry and feel your emotions, right.
But we're a lot of us didn't have anyone modeling
to us how to deal with our emotions in a
healthy way, so we just learned to stuff them down
and suppress them, which will then cause you to be
disconnected from your body. Because if you were connected with

(19:55):
your body and present in your body, you would have
to feel those emotions, right. So so using the breath work,
it's such a fast and effective way to get you
back into your body and quickly and efficiently process the
feelings that are there, and you know, confront them in
a gentle way. So sometimes people can feel a little

(20:17):
nervous or have a little trepidation around breath work because
they're afraid of what they're going to feel or what
they're going to have to face. But it's such a
gentle way of doing it. I always say, nothing ever
comes up that you can't handle. But getting in the
body is so important because, like you said, the body
is really the way that you receive information. The body

(20:39):
will tell you. The body is not going to lie
to you. It's all there. It's just a matter of
connecting with it and then really starting to trust the
signals that it gives you.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And that really speaks to me as someone that was
disconnected from my body for most of my life. So
I'm curious if a woman is listening right now, how
does she know? How does anyone know that they have
unhealed childhood or ancestral trauma? Like, what are some of
the signs that could they could be experiencing right now

(21:11):
and don't know it's connected?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yes, absolutely, I love this question. So one of the
main ways that I would say to know that, especially
if there's not anything that you are aware of consciously,
is if there is some area of your life where
you feel stuck or challenged, or there's something you've been
trying to move forward with, something you've been trying to

(21:36):
create something you've been trying to take action on, and
it feels really hard. You have doubt about it, you procrastinate.
Maybe you just think you're lazy or not motivated. I
always say there's no such thing as lazy. There's a
reason why you can't move forward, and it usually has
to do with some kind of trauma from childhood, and

(21:57):
it can also be ancestral. But it's you usually a
belief about yourself, or it's your psyche or your inner
child trying to prevent you from getting hurt again. So
it feels so hard to move forward. So that's definitely
a way that you would know. Also if you have
repeated patterns that you know that you do, but you

(22:21):
still can't stop doing them. Like a great example of
this would be people pleasing, right, So so many people
will have this awareness that they that they people please,
and they know that they do it. They might know
where it's coming from, but and they can say to themselves,
you know what, I'm not going to do that, I'm
not going to people please. But then they can try

(22:42):
to change it a little bit, but ultimately they still
keep doing it and they don't know why. That is
a result of childhood trauma. And the reason why it's
so hard to stop a pattern of behavior like that
is because as a young child, we develop coping mechanisms
to deal with having unmet needs or having caretakers that

(23:03):
couldn't be there for us in the way that we needed.
We develop these coping mechanisms, and people pleasing is just
an example of one of them. But we literally do
that coping mechanism as a means of survival, as a
means to feel safe, because as a young child, you
need to know that there's an adult that cares for

(23:23):
you and is going to meet your needs, or you
won't survive. So these coping mechanisms are connected to our survival,
and if we try to just white knuckle it and
change the behavior, it's going to feel so unsafe. It's
going to feel like your survival is threatened. It's going
to feel like you're in danger, and ultimately it's going

(23:43):
to be too hard to change. That's why we need
to address the reason why you created that coping mechanism
in the first place, reconcile that, and then the coping
mechanism will dissolve. So any kind of pattern like that
where it's like you know, oh, you do it, but
you can't stop. That's always a result of childhood trauma

(24:05):
as well.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
That's powerful, and I have a feeling many women nodding
their heads right, and so excuse me. So we're going
to take our next break the lease because the next
question I know might go a little deep, and I
don't want to interrupt you, so my friends will be
back in a moment. I invite you to visit a
lease breathes dot com learn about her metamorphosis method. She

(24:32):
also has other offerings. They have lots of information that
will support you on your journey, and be sure, of course,
to follow her on social media too. You'll find everything
there and we'll be right back for this inspiring conversation.

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Speaker 2 (26:46):
Welcome back and listening to inspired conversations. I'm Hostline Enjoy
and today we're talking about how our ancestors experiences in
our own experiences in our life, live in our bodies
and can be influencing our present day challenges. So I

(27:07):
want to know how breath work contributes to clearing that.
Like I understand almost like a little bit of the methodology,
but how heck does it work to help clear familial
in ancestral trauma from the body.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yes, that's a great question. So especially with ancestral trauma
and our family trauma as well, it all gets passed
down in our cellular memory energetically. Right. So even when
we think about a child developing in the in the
mother's womb, right, because a lot of the work I
do is around your birth story and what actually happened

(27:45):
from conception until birth when you were developing in the womb.
And when you think about a baby developing in the womb,
that baby is literally being built of the cells of
its mother, right, And what are cells there? Energy their consciousness,
So you're literally built of the cells of the consciousness,

(28:07):
the energy signature of your mother. So you're taking on
her consciousness, the trauma she's carrying, all of her experiences,
her beliefs, her thoughts. That becomes a part of you.
So we take on everything from our mother, who took
it on from her mother, who took it on from

(28:28):
her mother, right, So it's all there. So even when
we come through in the womb, all of those experiences,
all of that trauma, all of the patterns of you know, fear, lack, scarcity,
whatever it is that happen, are there, you know. And
then when you come into your family of origin, a
lot of times those patterns will be played out and

(28:51):
then we have the opportunity to heal them. And I
always say, through your relationships with your parents, a lot
of times when you heal those, you'll end up healing
a lot of the ancestral trauma as well, because it's
all kind of represented within those relationships. So the breath
work is really powerful because, like I said before, it
accesses the subconscious and a lot of this memory is

(29:15):
within the subconscious, and it also is living in the
body in energetic imprints. So when you think about you know,
taking on energy from your mother, taking on her consciousness.
That's not going to be something that you would have
words for or cognitive linear thought around. Right as a baby,
you're just experiencing it as energy. You're experiencing it as

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an imprint. It's not going to be something that is
in your conscious mind as oh, I'm taking on my
mother's trauma or whatever. You don't have that aware, you're
not aware of that consciously. So the breath work allows
you to move this energy that is no longer serving you,
this energy that is not a me for your next

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level of growth and expansion. It allows you to move
that energy out of your body, and sometimes it will
come into your conscious awareness. Right you'll have feelings or
thoughts or awarenesses or memories. Some of my clients will
even see visions of themselves like as little babies in

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the crib, or they'll even have memories of being in
the womb. It's all there right in your subconscious it's
just that we're not consciously aware of it. So the
breathwork gives you access to that, and it allows you
to move and clear a lot of that energy that
is holding those old patterns in place. So that's why

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it's such a powerful tool because it goes deeper than
just kind of the intellectual awareness of things, and it
allows you to move things on a much deeper level
of the body and the energy field. And a lot
of times, when you are wanting to move beyond, you know,

(31:03):
what your family did, what your ancestors did, it can
feel scary, and you can feel blocked, and you can
feel like you don't know if you can do it.
And when you use the breath work, it allows you
to move all of that energy out of the body
that isn't a match for where you're going, you know.
And I find that it's such a helpful tool for

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so many of my clients because that's what they're doing.
They're wanting to move beyond those old patterns, those old
ways of thinking, those old ways of relating, and create
a new path for themselves, and the breathwork is such
a powerful way of doing that. And the cool thing
is sometimes you don't even have to be aware of

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what changed or what shifted, or what you let go of,
because it's happening on these deeper levels that a lot
of times we're not consciously aware of. A lot of
times people will come back to me and say, I
feel so different. I feel so much like I'm looking
at things differently, and they know it's because of the
breath work, but they don't know exactly what they even released.

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It's just different. So and sometimes they will be aware
of it consciously. It just depends. But it's so powerful
in that way because a lot of times you can
release things and you don't even know exactly what it
was that you released.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So it doesn't sound like it's important to be able
to label what you released to have the experience of
healing exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's not always, it's not always needed. Sometimes it's helpful,
especially with like those bigger things like the core wound,
for example, things that are related to long standing patterns
or things that are important for you to understand in
order to continue to make new decisions or different decisions. Yes,

(32:51):
I would say that stuff is more important to have
in your awareness, But a lot of times those deeper things,
those deeper ancestral patterns, they can be cleared and released
without you even having to have that conscious awareness of it.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
That's powerful. So, based on that conversation you just shared,
I'm curious because you know, I see like birathwork workshops
like an hour and everyone gets together and does a
breath work workshop. So the practice and I know that's
what you did for yourself, WI be back in your twenties.
So when someone experiences it in like one of those

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one day workshops that someone's hosting, what happens if they
have such a release that they need support after that? Right,
like if they just go to this one day thing.
I guess that's my question. Is it sounds like what
you have created is a whole support system right through

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all the layers. So just answer that question for me.
Is it is it something you can go take a
class or an experience? I guess at a one day
workshop I wrote one hour one, two hour one and
experience transformation or does everyone need that safe container after

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the process what they have?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So yes, and yes, it's funny you ask this because
I actually am teaching an in person series the last
couple of weeks and next week, and they were asking
me about this because I of course went really deep
with them. I spent an extra two hours because I
just can't not do what I do. But most you know,

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a lot of people will go to you know, an
hour long breath work class, and that's there's nothing wrong
with that. I think it's good. However, over time, what
I've realized is that the breathwork has the power to
bring up very deep levels of trauma that if you
know how to successfully walk somebody through that trauma, they

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can create such a powerful transformation. So that's where I'm
coming from with all of this. However, I think somebody
can go to a you know, one hour breathwork class
and they can feel better, they can feel lighter, they
can have a new awareness of something, and that's great.
But if you really want to parlay that into a

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real permanent transformation, then you will want to do it
with somebody where you can have that safe container where
you can create that transformation over time. So it's not
that there's one is right or wrong. It's just more
about you know, having that one time experience versus really
leaning into creating a bigger result over time.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Okay, thank you for answering that, because there was always curious.
So compare to therapy, and I don't mean to compare
the two. I don't know another way to ask this.
You know, like I've been in therapy, you know, over
the years and it's a lot of talk therapy, but
breath work seems to work so quickly. So why does

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it work so quickly to release trauma from the body
compared to talk therapy or is there no comparison because
it's two completely different things.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
I would definitely say it's not two completely different things.
And I think that there is value in therapy to
a certain point. But it's interesting you brought this up too,
because last night somebody said to me, well, I'm here
because I got to the point in therapy where I
just felt like I didn't feel like talking about my
trauma anymore. And I think that that's what happens for

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people in therapy is you it works to talk about
it if you have not yet talked about it, and
it works to a certain point, but then you get
to the point where you're like, Okay, I know what
all my off is, but now how do I actually
change it? So I think the breath work works so
quickly because it just bypasses the mind and it allows

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you to process the emotional energy that is living in
your body. There are places in your body and in
your psyche where these moments from your childhood that were
traumatizing for you where you felt wounded or your needs
didn't get met. Those moments are still alive in your
body because they haven't been fully processed, and in a

(37:31):
lot of ways, are still running the show. You know.
I always have this joke that everyone is walking around
like five year olds, and when you see people on
the street like yelling at each other or beeping at
each other, to me, that's like they're in our five
year old coming out who doesn't feel acknowledged or doesn't
feel valued, and it gets triggered, right. But if you
can address that through really feeling the feelings and processing

(37:55):
it through the body, then you get to really reconcile
these people of you that are still alive because they
haven't been acknowledged and reconciled. And that's what the breathwork
is so good at, is helping bring those things to
the surface and process those emotions so that you can

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be complete with them.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I'm just loving this conversation. So, when you start to
work with a client, whether one on one, personal or
through your programs, is there a recommended number of breath
work sessions for each person or does it vary based
on the core wound that they're healing.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
It'll vary, so I usually will. Even in my group program,
the Metamorphosis, I still kind of give everyone individual advice, right,
or individual assignments, right. So I have developed all these
different breathwork audio recordings for the different traumas, you know.
So I have one around your birth story, one around

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your mother wound, your father wound, your sibling wound, and
so based on what is present for somebody, what's coming
up for them, I'll say, okay, go do you know
the mother wound breath work or whatever. So I'm really
kind of guiding people individually based on where they're at
and what's coming up for them. And you know, also,

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some people have a lot more resistance to the breath
work than others, So I like to meet people where
they're at. And some people, you know, are like, I
don't I don't know why I can't do it, or
I feel so confronted by it. And for those type
of people, I'll tell them, we'll just listen to it
while you're walking, or listen to it while you're doing
the dishes, you know. So I always wanting to find

(39:47):
inroads for people that have resistance or are feeling confronted
by it. So I think it really depends on the
person and where where they are and what is going
to be feasible for. But ideally I'd like people to
do the breath work at least twice a week along
with journaling, and then you know, they come back to

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me and tell me what came up, and then I
and then I tell them what I think and I
give them the next thing to do.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh, I love that. So it's like customize for each
person's personal experience, their energy, their their what they're feeling,
like the vulnerability in it. So I think that's so powerful,
and I want to invite everyone to learn more about
her revolutionary methodology called the Metamorphosis Method. You can learn

(40:37):
all about that and so much more that she offers
at a lease breathes dot com. We'll be back in
a moment, my friends, with the last segment of this
truly inspiring conversation. We'll be back in a moment.

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I Own sm well listening to inspired conversations. Thanks for
being here. As you know, I always say there are
no accidents. Right, you're listening in today, and maybe in
this conversation you get that little nudge or some soul bumps, going,
oh my goodness, this is what I need that I
invite you to be sure to stay connected with the lease.

(43:24):
Visit her website, look into her metamorphosis method, because, as
I've discovered in my own life, life doesn't have to
be a struggle, but we have to be willing to
face our internal struggles. So one of the things that
he saw on your website when I was visiting you,
he had this quote that really spoke to me, and

(43:45):
it says, your mind isn't the problem, your unhealed wound is.
And I was like, whoa right, because we're all like
and I'm a mindset elevation coach and belief claiming practitioner,
and why I read that was like, ooh ooh, it's
so true. Right, they think it's all mindset, but it's

(44:05):
much deeper than that. So tell me your thoughts on that,
because it really spoke to me.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yes, I love this, so you know there is a
power in changing your mindset. There is a power and affirmation. However,
if we don't address what is creating the thought pattern
in the first place, it's going to be really pretty
impossible to change it. It doesn't matter how many times

(44:32):
you say an affirmation. If your inner child is still
not feeling safe, everything that you do, every interaction that
you have in the world, is going to be fueled
by that in our child who doesn't feel safe. So
it doesn't matter how many times you say you know,
I'm abundant or I'm good enough, she still doesn't feel safe.

(44:56):
So we have to address that first. You know, and
then when we pair that with affirmations, with changing your mindset.
You know, one of the things that I do in
my inner child healing process is we address the inner child,
you know, through the situations and circumstances in your life.
So for example, say you get triggered by something your

(45:18):
partner says, and you immediately want to, you know, make
it about their wrong or their mean or whatever. I
always say, Okay, you're triggered, let's address what's really going
on here, which is, you know, your inner child doesn't
feel valued or your inner child doesn't feel safe. And
then we take the steps to heal and reconcile the
inner child. And then ultimately the goal is for you

(45:39):
to come back into your power what I call your
highest self avatar. So that's the version of you who's
fully in her power, fully in her presence, and fully
in the version of her that she's meant to be.
And ultimately that's the goal. Through being able to address
the inner child is then being able to go through

(45:59):
the step and be able to hold your power in
all situations and circumstances in your life. So when you
are going through the process, part of being able to
access your power is by changing your mindset and using
affirmations that remind you of this version of yourself. But
we have to pair it with both. Right, it has

(46:21):
to be the addressing and the healing of the inner child,
and we can't ignore that. But then once we address that,
then we can start to really change the pattern by
accessing your power. And there might be a mindset shift
or an affirmation or something that reminds you of this
powerful version of you that gradually becomes easier and easier

(46:44):
for you to access.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Powerful. My friend, I noticed something too when you site
you actually certifying practition is in the Metamorphosis method.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Yes, so tell us a little bit about who you
work with through that certification and any other details you
want to share, because I have such a large following
of personal and spiritual development coaches, body workers and more
who I think this would be such a powerful modality

(47:17):
to bring into what they do.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yes, absolutely so. My certification program is a six month
program where I certify you in my methodology, the Metamorphosis method,
which is learning how to facilitate breath work, learning how
to use my trauma tools the inner child healing process,
learning how to recognize trauma in your clients and how

(47:41):
to help them move forward, and also energy work tools
that I've created, So it's you know, you learn how
to facilitate my methodology with your clients. However, I'm very
passionate about you taking these tools that I give you
and the knowledge I give you and really integrating it

(48:02):
into what you do in your own way. I don't
want anyone to, you know, feel like they have to
do it exactly the way I do it. I really
want people to just understand these concepts and understand how
to recognize trauma at the deeper, deepest level to help
people create a permanent transformation. So I work with I've

(48:23):
had a lot of coaches, physical therapists, dulas healers, you know,
a kashak records teachers, reiki healers, you know, women who
know they want to start a business and be a healer,
but they haven't done it yet. So I've had women
come in who, you know, we're breath workers, but really

(48:46):
want to be able to help walk people through trauma
in a deep way. So, you know, any kind of
woman who is knows that she is already helping people
create a transformation, or knows she wants to that's who
it's for.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Ohful, and what a beautiful modality. And I love that
you said that. It's almost like when they go through
the certification, you don't want them to be cookie cut
of copying you. You want them to bring their full
brilliance and use the tools that you provide in the
way that aligns for them.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Exactly. I'm very passionate about that because I truly believe
everyone has a unique medicine to share. I just want
people to be able to see to the core of
what people's struggles are so they can help them at
that very deep level create a permanent change. And that's
really my goal with teaching this methodology to other people.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Well, you can tell it stands upot because I've held
it a lot of calls, my friend, and it seems
like it's the only system that effectively closes the gap
between clinical expertise and somatic healien, And I don't know
if many, if any, that do that. So I mean
I can tell that you've dedicated a lot of time, energy,

(50:03):
passion in creating this to serve others.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yes, absolutely, I love it. I mean teaching my certification
is like my happy place. I just love it so much.
I love talking about the nuances of this work and
really coaching clients on how to create a really powerful,
pristine and safe place for their clients to create healing.

(50:29):
I'm incredibly passionate about that.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I can feel it, my friend. So for those because
I have a global listenership, is that certification done virtually
or in person?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
It's virtual? Yeah, so you can join from anywhere in
the world. I have clients now the realm we're doing now,
I have some women in Europe, Canada, and the US.
I'm trying to think, Oh, I have one in Hawaii,
so yeah, we're They're all over.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
And the other question is that open enrollment anyone can
join or is there certain times a year that you
open the doors to the certification.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
You can enroll at any time, so I have it
every six months, So the next one will be starting
in September, but you can enroll now, and when you enroll,
you automatically get access to a huge content library of
all the training, so you can start learning immediately, and
then when the live portion starts in September, you know

(51:28):
you'll be ahead of the game essentially.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Oh, I love that. I love how you positioned it.
So as we come to a close, what piece of
guidance would you give to someone who's been tentative about
trying breathwork.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
I would say to try it for just a small
amount of time. And I say this to my clients
all the time who have resistance to it or are
not sure about it, or even if you're somebody who's like,
I don't know if I need this, just try it
for five minutes, you know, instead of doing the full

(52:05):
The audio recordings I have are about twenty minutes. But
just try it for five minutes, or try it for
even two minutes, and see how different you feel even
after two minutes, and then maybe you want to try
it for five minutes after that. So I'm a big
fan of baby steps. I always tell people, you know,
we don't want to dive into something, blow out your

(52:27):
nervous system and then never want to do it again.
It's better to give yourself little baby steps into things.
So I would say, just try it for a short
amount of time and see how you feel, and then
take it from there.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So that I guide my clients micro steps, baby just
take micro steps. Yeah, giant steps, right, you still go
in towards the direction you want to go exactly at least.
It's been such a joy to have you on the
show and to feature you in a Spire magazine. I
know we'll stay connected. I love the work you're doing
in the world. It's so needed, and I want to

(53:02):
invite everyone. Please visit a lease breathes dot com again.
Check the show notes. On whatever platform you listening to,
you'll find the link over to a website and more.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Thank you, Elise, Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
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