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been many times in my life where I've craved connection,
but did I want to leave my comfort zone? I
think you can relate also, you know, And when we're
in that place, life keeps moving forward and we keep
saying one day I will one day I'll take that
vacation one day, I'll follow my dreams. But when well.
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I am so excited to have Tararajanelle Walsh with me today.
She was actually my friend, the very first guest I
had on this show when it started nine years ago,
and I was so excited when she said yes about returning.
She's here. We're going to be talking about building self
trust and finding the courage to step back into life
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after a major transition or life experience. Tara Janelle is
the author of the book sole Courage, ian founder of
the greeting card company Solebrate. I still have your cards,
my friend. She's passionate about emotional and energetic awareness in
a sacred formula, which she believes has the ability to
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enrich the world at large. You can learn more at
Tara Janelle dot com. Welcome back, my old friend.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Ah h, thanks for helen me. This is so great.
It's is so great to reconnect with you.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Oh it is. And I just I've always loved your message,
your vulnerability, your truth telling, because you know, as we
all know, life is not always easy, right, and we
can lose ourselves. And today we're talking about we're talking
about a few things but when stepping back into life
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after a major loss or transition, how to trust the
unfolding of life and so much more so, bring us
back to a time when maybe you were feeling a
little stuck, a little lost, a little bit like I
just want to stay in my cocoon and in my
comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well, this is going to make me choke up. It
still does. You know. It's so interesting revisiting, you know,
the thoughts and really feeling into some of the pain
that we've experienced. You know, I lost my mom in
twenty twelve, which seems like forever ago, but it seems
like yesterday. You know, that crazy dynamic of oh yeah,
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I'm being so close yet so far away, And it
just shifted my whole being. Really, I want to say,
even more than my life, I mean me who I was,
how I related to the world, and how much of
me I actually let out. I felt more preserved. The
grief was just unbearable, and you know, I'm a big
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believer in feeling, as you know, so I did not
deny myself that, but really feeling in degree takes uh,
takes courage, and it also takes you kind of out
of life for a while.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So that's that was my bigie losen to my mom.
And a couple of years later, I lost my my
beloved Pug, who is just my little boy. So I
got I got a double whammie of grief, and I
just it pulled me back, you know, it just pulled
me out of out of life and out of my
my shine and just out of graze and connecting and
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and all that for a while.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And I think, Tarard Janelle, so many women can relate
because there's many times in a life where we have experiences,
whether it's the loss of a loved one like yourself,
that we lose ourselves, We lose that spark, that connection
to joy, that yearned to have a dream bigger than
what we're living in that moment. Did you go through
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that almost like a disconnection from not just the outside world,
but even the little things that brought you joy previously.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, well I went through such a disconnection that when
I began to re enter the world, it felt surreal,
like all my senses were on high alert, and you know,
people talking and cars going by, and everything just felt
like the volume was up because I was my senses
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were in fact re entering after being kind of in
hibernation and cocooning for a while to heal, and I
still it's interesting, you know, grief. You never people say, well,
you know, it's been twelve years now or whatever. It's
not There's no time limit on grief. There's no time
limits on feeling. There's no rights and wrongs. And I
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still feel the grief. I'm not out, I'm not emerged.
You know, I'm not the full butterfly. I'm just color
by color. I'm just you know, little bits of time
getting some mirror under my wings. And still feel the grief.
But look at it in a different way now, I.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Guess, Oh, that's a beautiful insight. And I'm so glad
that you brought that up, because I think so many
of us have that expectation on ourselves that, okay, it's
been one month, six months, five years, get over it, right, right, right,
whatever that grief is in your case, Veloci, your mom
and your little munchkin. Then I think a lot of
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us put that pressure on ourselves. Well, I shouldn't be
feeling this way now, that's such bull Our feelings are
our feelings.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I mean, and people actually say that, people actually
have said that to me, Well, yeah, you know, it's
been ten years now, I'm like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah. So in a way, it's almost like you bottle
it up even more because who wants to receive those
kind of reactions? Right? So, do you feel for a
while that you kind of pulled back from even being
fully honest with your emotions with others for fear that
they would say stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's the tricky dance, right Linda, that is the dance.
You want approval, you want acceptance, you want connection. And
on the other side, a lot of people don't want
to deal with heavy things like grief or you know,
just any emotion that is a lower vibration. A lot
of people don't want to carry that of yours because
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they're already carrying their own stuff. Right, So when you're
around them, it's always this like should I match their
energy in order to be able to stay in the room.
It's this constant choice we're being given, or should I
just be true to myself. I've done both. I've energy
matched just to stay in the space, just to be
adored and loved and connect, you know, still connecting with
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people and friends and family. But then I've later reflected
on it when I've laid down to bed at night.
You know that's a that's not where I'm at. You know,
I had the thought, well, maybe I privately grieve and
I don't need to share it with everyone. No, you don't.
But it doesn't mean you have to mask who you
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are in that moment.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh. I love that statement. We don't have to mask
who we are because I think we're taught at such
a young age. Or I'll speak for myself, it was
don't show anger, don't show grief, like get over the sadness,
like I was told how to feel. What happens when
you hear that from a young age is you start
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to pull each of your emotions in little boxes and
hide them away. Right. So I think sometimes, like when
you share your grieving moments with a friend or a
loved one, I think their reaction is really a reflection
of their ability to process grief and not a reflection
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of us who may still be in grief.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Absolutely do you feel that too? Oh? Absolutely? And ironically
it's the same with joy. You know, when you're in
a really great space of joy, if you share it
with another and they're not in that space. It's almost
like they don't want to carry it. Some people, it
all depends on you know, who you're with, because it's
a reflection of what they either don't have in their
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life or striving to have more of or something. But
at some point we have to find that balance of
not just doing that dance and that energy matching and
just being true to where we are.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I think that's beautiful. And one of the other things,
you know, I want to share with our listeners is
grief comes in all forms. For many years, because of
the way I was raised, I thought grief was only
experienced as you as you just shared through the loss
of a loved one. I associated grief with the passing
of someone. And what I realized from diving deep into
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my own grief of different things that have happened in
my life is grief can happen after any major life transition.
Like I have a friend who was loved her job
and she was a career woman for twenty five years.
It became her identity, and when they suddenly let her go,
she went into a deep grief spiral because her whole
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identity was that So she was grieving the loss of
my identity and didn't know how to move forward. Yes,
do you feel that too, the grief and transitions, it's
all like.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's so complex. I totally. And you know what is interesting,
this is a little throw, one more little pinch of
greening into the stew. Grief can also come from not
having something, not having been experienced something like I've had
a lot of grief around not having children, for instance.
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So it's not only about something that has happened, as
you mentioned, you know, the death of a loved one
or a dear pet, But sometimes things that don't happen
that we have our hearts set on ever since we're
little girls, or you know, that we're wishing for or
dreaming about, and it doesn't happen, and there's grief there.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And it's so I think the more conversations like this
that women have access to when they're in the midst
of it, they'll know they're not alone. They'll know it's okay.
They'll know that there is light at the end of
the tunnel, and they're going to find their way to
that when they're ready. And and then it's a journey, right,
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it's a journey. Okay, I'm coming out of the grief.
Whoop some I'm back in again. That's not yes, like
it's okay. It's okay. And that's what I want this
conversation to portray. And Tara, you know we're going to
take our first break, we'll come back. We're going to
continue this sacred conversation. I want to invite everyone to
stay with us and also give you Tara Janille's URL,
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which is Tara Janelle dot com. We'll be back in
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Welcome back, you're listening to inspired conversations. I'm your Hostlinda
Joy and with me today is the author of the
book Soul Courage, Tara Janelle Walsh. So, Tara, we're just
talking about, you know, the the journey of grief and
all the different ways and it can reach us, and
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none of us are immune to this, right, because it's
part of the human experience. In some of you writing
that I read on your blog and our personal conversation
use the phrase a lot about stepping back in, right,
So when I read that, I have a vision and
an energetic imprint of what it means, but I want
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to hear what it means to you about stepping back in.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We stepping back in. It's like it's that voice inside
when you know maybe you're safe and you're comfortable, and
you're in your comfort zone for just a little bit
too long, and there's a voice inside that's maybe saying, hey,
how about starting that painting project, or when are you
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going to finish that book? Or when are you going
to get out more and be with your friends, or
anything as large or small as you can imagine. But
there's a voice that's rooting for you, and that's pushing
you a little, giving you a little nudge, and you
think about it and sometimes you're mall over it. Sometimes
you make plans, and plans are great. Planning is great,
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but there comes a time when you know you got
to put action behind your thought. You know, no more
thinking about it. Stepping out is the action, you know,
making an effort and a declaration to yourself that I'm
gonna I'm going to get back out there. Whatever that
looks like to you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I love that. So it's like re entering, right, re
entering your life and the vision you have for your life.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yes, yes, stop playing small, stop being and hiding. Not stop,
but you know, just realizing you know, you always have choice, right.
It's just I hate to keep using the I don't
want to say the word hate, but like the typical
analogy with the cocoon and the butterfly, but it's so true,
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it's just so perfect for this at some point.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It really is because think about it, as I said
at the beginning, when we go through a grief process
of any kind, that's exactly what we do, isn't it.
We have pone we close off as sensors, we go
within we want to feel nurtured love. It's like like
I'm actually told up as I'm talking, like inside that
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little cocoon. So I think that's a beautiful analogy. And
it isn't always easy though, right. We might have the
intention of Okay, I'm ready to step back into my life,
my career, maybe a new relationship after being hurt greeming
a previous one. But it doesn't mean it's simple, does it.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Oh goodness, No, it can be scary as anything. It
can be. I mean, scary sounds childish, but it really
can be fearful. That's why it takes courage. I like
to say it takes soul courage, because really it's a
courage that it's not about just being brave, you know,
closing your eyes and jumping in the pool and you know,
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plugging your nose. It's not that kind of braveness. It's
the kind that comes from deep within, from the part
of you that knows who you really are, and knows
that you deserve more, that you deserve love and light
and happiness and all around you, you know, the connection
and being seen and shining and loving. So it's that
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kind of courage. It's that kind of inner inner push.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, I call it it's like a for me, it
feels like a soul nudge right, like, even though my mind,
my ego, my smaller self goes that doesn't even make sense, girl,
my deeper part of myself says, don't listen to her.
I've got you, and I always find that I love
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your words, soul courage to take just the next step.
I don't have to know the whole path. That was
the biggest thing for me as a recovering micro manager
of the divine. I remember years ago saying, show me
the full path A through Z with every step I
need to take, and then I'll take action right because
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you know, a little bit of control freak stuff there.
And I had to learn to trust ye, which was
my I think a big soul lesson for me after
a lot of trauma at childhood. It was it was
learning to trust the wisdom of my soul, myself and
also that the divine, the universe, God, all that is
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has my back.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Have you gone through that thing too, of deeping in
your trust and really the truth of who you are?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Absolutely, I think, like you're saying, having to know the
plan and having to have an outline of and reviewing
everything I've come to know myself as when I start
doing that as well, it's a little bit of a
stalling mechanism, but it also is a slight sniff of
you're getting ready, girl, You're getting ready. You're starting to
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you're starting to roll it out, you know. Now, put
your toe in the water. Now, dip in you know,
starts start now, though, Start now. You don't have to
do any big, you know, grandiose of things and be
so fearful about it. Just do something small every day,
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once a day. Then you do two things a day,
and then three we're a week even, you know. But
then the momentum builds up, and that is, ironically how
we learn to trust ourselves. You trusting can't My experience
doesn't just come from being in the mind, but from
demonstrating who we are outwardly, physically expressing ourselves and bumping
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into opportunities with others and with life that show us yeah, yeah,
you got this. That's what builds self trust. For me,
it's like a muscle, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh, I one hundred percent agree, and I love what
you said about dipping the toe in the water. So
many of us and I believe this too is like
I have to go big or go home. You know,
how we're raised it depends how we want go big
or go home. And so what happens is it keeps
many of us who are wired differently than that stuck
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because we're too fearful to go big. And so I
loved your example of just put your toe in the water.
Take the next step towards whatever it is. If you
want to write a book, buy a notebook, that's step one, right,
buy a journal, something towards what you the direction you
want to go. So for me, that's how I've changed
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my whole life. If you asked me back when I
was a welfare mom, runaway, high school drop out, all
of the above, I could never as the person I
was then, Ever, imagine who I am now, Not what
I do for a living, just the joy I have
in my heart, the gratitude I have is a night
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and day difference from the way I used to live. Fearful,
constricted kind of a I'll be honest, a little afraid
of life, a little afraid to be in vulnerable, a
little free to being seen. I'm going back thirty years,
but I can remember those deep emotions of being so fearful.
Is that kind of what you went through when you
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were in that cocoon. After the loss of a mom
like you became, you shut yourself off from the world.
Whether you think it was a protection mechanism or just
a part of how you process grief, probably.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
All I think it was there's some protection, there's some preservation.
You know, I wanted to preserve, you know, so many layers. Honestly,
there was probably I wanted to explore even I wanted
to explore the feelings and everything that was coming through
my body and my heart and my mind, and reflection,
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even reflection on all the beautiful experiences that I had
with my mom and my dog or whatever anyone's situation
would be, you know, in a relationship or just all
of it just filled layered.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It just I just wish we we all learned how
to be more gentle with usselves on the journey. I've
gone through some difficult times in my life, as everyone
listening has, and you know, I look back with wiser
rise now and like why I was so hard on
myself while I was in the midst of the healing
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or grief or the transition. And you know, I'm hoping
this conversation with you helps women see we're going to
have more compassion for ourselves than where we are you
did you struggle with that too? Did you judge your
grief journey through as you were on it?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Okay, Yeah, I hear that so often.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
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Speaker 3 (23:58):
I was to be over this now or move on,
just get over it, and all that internal talk that
kind of breaks my heart, right.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
You know. I think someone once said to me, or
I once read somewhere something like, the grief will always
be within you. It's becomes part of you. It just
changes changes form, and that in an odd way, some
might think, oh, that's depressing, But in an odd way,
that relieved me because it relieved me of the thought
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that I had to I had to get over it,
I had to give away that grief, that there was
a time limit and the clock was sticking. You know.
I realized I could, Oh, I could just tuck that
away in my heart and that that's just a part
of me, a part of what I've gone through, And
it doesn't mean it has to rule and run who
I am in my life and how much I put
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myself out there. It just means it's tucked away and
I can revisit whenever I want. It's a powerful message Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
It's a beautiful way of looking at it. And before
we go on the next break, that story just reminded me,
like energetically, I just got this message. I think sometimes
and I can't speak for everyone, I'll only speak for myself.
There was a time I went through a deep grief
journey and I remember thinking, if I let go of
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this grief, it's like I'm going to forget them. Oh,
I'm going to forget the memories and I'm going to
forget the love. So I kind of that was like
twenty five years ago, the experience that I'm thinking of
in the moment, I had this fear that if I
needed to hold on to this deep grief to kind
of show they mattered. And the truth is that I've
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discovered is the grief doesn't keep them here. That's part
of my personal journey. Their memories, their love can never
be separate from me because I'm the essence of we were,
the essence of each other's lives. You go through that too,
that the grief helped you hold on to memories. Did
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you ever have that thought process as I did.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think it shifted a lot of my thought just
as you mentioned that it's not. You know, I have
heard that too, and I felt that too. That you know, Oh,
if you're not grieving as much, that must mean you
didn't care. That must mean you're letting go of that person. Yeah,
I don't agree with that. I think the grief changes
form as I mentioned earlier, and I do believe that
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it stays with you, but in a way that that
conforms with you and grows with you, not in a
way that holds you down anchor in the sand, you know,
in a way that just honors you, know, your journey,
your journey.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
H I love that. I love how you beautifully explain
that we'll take our next break, we come back. I
want to talk more about Soul Courage, what it means.
I know you have a beautiful book about it, just
to give our listeners an idea, because when you first
released that book and we had you on the show
and all that, just the title really spoke to me
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and how I want to live. So let's revisit that,
my friend. We'll be back in a moment, my friend.
You can learn more about Tara Janelle Walsh at tarajanell
dot com. Be sure to check out her book Soul
Courage and her greeting card company, Solabrate. All can be
found at Tara Janelle dot com. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3 (29:44):
Welcome back, my friends, thanks for circling up with me
and my special guest Tavia Janelle Walsh. So, when you
had the vision to write soul Courage, what did those
words mean to you and what do they still mean
to you today?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Means something that that does not have to be crafted,
does not have to be found. It means something that's
within each and every one of us, and an innate strength,
an innate relationship that you have with who you really
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are not just the physical form that we're living in,
but who you are beyond. That means a bravery that
honors this journey of your life, all of it, and
allows yourself to be present through it and to feel
through it and express those feelings. And it just means
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all of it. It means being vulnerable, means feeling your
your joy and your pain and not hiding, not hiding,
not not choosing approval over authenticity, or comfort over growth,
or retreat over resilience, not choosing the easy way or
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the comfortable way, but just knowing in your heart you're
more in feeling into it and expressing that. There's no
really one answer. I think everyone kind of might know
what it means when they hear the word soul courage,
I would hope. But it's so much to me, as
you know, that's why I wrote a book about it.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, And it was a sacred reminder when that book
came out, it was a reminder of for me myself too,
because I was going through a transformation in a transformation
and the message came to me at the exact right time.
So thank you for that, my friend.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
You talked about well in my interro I talked about
a sacred formula and then you do share about it
in Soul Courage. Let's talk about that. What is the
sacred formula that you talk about in your book.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Well, the sacred formula is actually something that I've kind
of been glazing over through our conversation. It's something that
I discovered when I reached deep within at a moment
of one of my moments of grief, and it was
in the sacred formula is feel, express, connect and as
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it means exactly what it is. When we have the
courage to really feel into the moment whatever that is,
we can be completely alone. But so if we are
feeling too our grief would be a good example, since
you're talking about that, or feel into a moment of
if you're with a friend and you have an argument,
the courage to not be defensive or look turn your
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eyes away, but to just listen and be present and
feel into the other persons what they're saying, into your
feelings into that moment. To have the courage to do
that and then to express whatever your expression is. I mean,
whatever you're feeling are excuse me, but in an authentic,
loving way, and that can be expressing yourself freely, you know,
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at the canvas and painting, or it can be sitting
down and looking someone in the eyes and expressing your
heart so openly and so vulnerably. Or it can just
be you know, expressing yourself through putting yourself out there
even online. It doesn't always have to be an intimate experience,
but it's an experience. It's always intimate to your soul
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and to you, and it becomes intimate because it creates
the third part of the sacred formula, which is connect.
If we're walking through nature, I have found I feel
more connected with the universe and God or the divine
and if I'm with someone, I always inbearably feel more
connected to that person after I'm honestly feeling and expressing
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myself with them.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
So that's the formula, and what I love about it
is the simplicity it. It's easy to remember the formula,
you know, because, as you said, self explanatory. So when
we're in that moment or in that energy, to be
able to just drop in and go, okay, feel express
connect it makes it doable. You know, sometimes we are
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giving formulas, frameworks, etc. That in the moment we can't
possibly remember this I could see embodying this formula.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Absolutely, we can pull back inside and we can just
take a deep breath and say, okay, feel feel into
this moment and just offer that opportunity ourselves, not make
ourselves do it, just offer the opportunity. And sometimes it's
too scary to feel. That's where the courage comes, you know.
Sometimes I've actually said to another I can't quite express
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my feelings right now, but I have a lot going
on and swirling around. I mean, even that is a
form of expression, That is a form of feeling. So
any little bit that you can squeak out, you know,
is courage takes courage.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
It does take courage. And one of the things I
noticed because on your newer website is these gorgeous paintings
to have a Janelle, Yeah, I remember, like I, you know,
we've been connected for a while, so I remember the
celebraty cards, and I knew that that was all part
of your creative process. But I'm like, girl, look at
these paintings. So I bring them up because was painting
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part of your healing journey? Yes, I could feel I said, yes.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
I started painting after my mom passed away. I have
no idea. What drew me to it. I just went
out in the garage and I don't even know how
I had painting supplies. I might have gone and gotten something,
but my first few paintings were nothing. It was literally
just putting color on canvas and moving color around and
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feeling the therapeuticness of just expressing myself in that way.
And it became something I just went to. It became
so healing for me to just create these abstracts that
were my feelings on the canvas basically, And yeah, that's
I gotta tell you. I was scared, you know, if
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we're going to be vulnerable here, I was really nervous
to put my paintings on my website. It took a
lot of encouragement for my friends to do that, to
step back, step back in. That was part of me
really showing up to myself. Stop hiding because for years
I've been painting, and I've just I have stacks of
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paintings in my studio and I'm scared to share them.
Why Why am I scared? This is part of who
I am. I mean, maybe they're not professional paintings or
exquisite or this or that, but it's it's me sharing
a bit of my soul, a bit of my inside.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I thought they were beautiful. I was strolling a site.
I'm like, oh, we are talking about this because I
believe creativity in itself. However, that manifest is a powerful
healing and transformational tool. I always believe that I have
a creative spirit, so it's always supported me. But what
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I find is I'm surrounded by a lot of creatives.
It manifests for them in different ways, and a lot
of them have that same wound and use the same
word you did. I was afraid to show what it
was I was creating, and I'm like, oh, goodness, gracious,
I wonder where this comes from. It's that fear of judgment, right,
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that fear of comparison. Do you have an idea of
where that deep fear came for you? Like energy behind it?
Was it judgment you were afraid of? Was it? Who
am I to put this out? You know?
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Like, yeah, there's yeah, there was a lot of things
behind it. It was a little loaded. The first thing
was just being completely vulnerable, you know. I mean when
we're kids, you know, right, We'll take crayons to things
and we're like running home with them and putting them
on the frigerator. Mommy, mommy, look what I did. Right.
It's a little different. You know, things change when we
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grow up, as you mentioned, you know, we're told what
to do, what not to do, and how to do it,
and we have to slowly navigate back to our soul,
back to what really feels good, back to ourselves and
just do it anyway. And I guess what felt good
for a while was to be in hiding. But then
it stopped feeling good. I started feeling lonely with it,
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you know, I started feeling like I wanted to connect
through it and with it with my creativity with others.
So but yes, I didn't have fears around where people
are going to judge me and say, yeah, oh look
at this, or who she thinks she is, or come
on that, or you know, any and everything just enters
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the mind when you're when you're a little shaky rabbit,
you know, just try to.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Change internally for you. Since you put them up, did
you feel a shift within of since you made that
sole courage move right to place some on the website?
Did it provide you a healing or a moment?
Speaker 4 (39:26):
It did? Yeah, it was relief. Almost. I just chose
instead of worrying about so much how it would be received.
I just try to shift my focus around, like how
am I going to feel about myself when I put
these out? Am I going to feel like freedom? It's
this is something that excites me, this is something I'm
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passionate about. I want to be freeing and exciting to
share it with others. I try to focus on that,
and it had there was a feeling of actually progress,
a feeling that kind of was like, yeah, you did it,
and that doesn't mean that it won't ebb and flow.
You know, if you know I don't get any bites
on it or no one relates to it, maybe I'll
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revert every now and then and feel a little sheepish
and my little girl will come out. But overall, I
feel like, hey, you know, I got to just put
myself out there and put love out there and share.
That's what we're here for, right to experience.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Also, it sounds like you putting them on your website
with you putting your toe into the water.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I was putting my eyelmost. That was a little bit
more than one toe for me. Me redoing the website
in general, was definitely a big foot one big foot forward.
It sounds silly, you know, people redo.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Their risk, but it's really big because I talk and
teach on sacred visibility and the wounds that keep soul
aligned entrepreneurs, coaches, artists, et cetera. From shining the light,
and a lot of wounds come up when it's time
for us to create a website that says here I am,
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and when we really the little girl inside is like, no,
don't shine the spotlight. So I've gone through my own
healing and journeys every time I dove deeper into bringing
who the truth of who I am into my brand.
So I so get that. And Tara janew We're going
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to take our last break and come back. For the
last ten minutes, I almost lost track of time because
I'm enjoying our conversation. My friends will be right back.
Please visit Tara Janelle at Tara Janelle dot com. All
everything's in the show notes below on the platform that
you are listening to. We'll be right back, my friends.
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Welcome back you listening to inspired conversations. I'm here with
Tara Janelle Walsh, author of the book Sole Courage and
founder of the greeting card company Celebrate, And I want
to take a moment in the last segment to talk
about Celebrate because I still I know this sounds a
little fresh, but there were some cards that I didn't
(44:21):
want to give to other people. Because remember I got
a bunch of cards and there were some I framed.
I had one on my altar before we moved we
moved out, yeah, and I was like, no, I know,
I didn't want to have this one. This one's for me.
They're like artwork, but they're all inspiring. You've had that company,
well for as long as I've known you, so you
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still are you still creating new cards or that's your collection?
I know you do wholesale, you're in retail establishments. Tell
us about Celebrate.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Right, yeah, well you know I haven't created new cards
in a couple of years. And this is a part
of also stepping back in for me because I I
love celebrate. Celebrate was born from once again probably just
from me wanting to share and express it was it
was born really, I'll give you a little snippet because
(45:14):
I went through a deep depression and I had an
eating disorder and I went down hard. And when I
came out, I noticed a lot of people were awkward
about how to embrace someone after you know, a time
of darkness, you know, someone make it divorced and what
did their friends say, oh if someone dies and what
(45:34):
did their friends say, oh they had a good life,
were a it'll be okay, or you just need time.
People were going back to the beginning of the conversation,
right when we were talking about energy matching and the
choice and people not being able to look at themselves.
So at any rate, I noticed I want I was
feeling all these things, and I wanted a certain kind
of support and feedback, but people weren't. Weren't there, So
(45:57):
I just started therapeutically creating cards like kind of how
I did with the paintings way back then. This is
in two thousand and four when I started the company,
and just writing things that I wanted to give to others,
so that I wish people would give to me, and
designing from my heart is color and shapes, and that's
(46:18):
kind of how it all started, and I'm trying to
bring that back. I want to bring that back out.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh I'm so happy that you are, because you know,
it's a celebrate greeting cards that committed to authentic expression,
connecting and celebrating all of life. And you have everything
from empowerment to miss you to console into encouragement. But
the artwork is stunning, So I am so excited, my
friend that you are going to be day Europen to
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creating even more Celebrate cards because your creativity is just
stunning and the intention and messaging that comes through on
those cards are truly they need to get out there.
So every Tara Janelle dot com. You can find out
about Celebrate there, or you can go to Solebrate and
(47:07):
I'm gonna spell that for you s O U L
E B R A t E dot com and you
will see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (47:18):
My friends, I'm going to mention something real quick.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Do we have a month?
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Uh? This is something that I personally struggled with more
in the past, but I actually still a little to
struggle with it still. So I'm not, you know, acting
as though I know how to master this, but I
definitely think it's important to say, especially in regards to
stepping back into life and into ourselves and all that
(47:43):
I think an important part of it is embracing the
imperfections that we may stumble across, embracing the resistance that
we may hear in our mind, embracing the things that
may not turn out the way we thought, and to
just to let let ourselves be a little All with
getting back in and just try things and if they
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don't work out, what did work out within that trying?
You know, to remember, and this is so hard for
me sometimes, but that the goal is not perfection, that
it's participation, That it's about starting, and that it's about
sharing and shining, and to just let ourselves try new
things and go with it and to celebrate the trying
(48:26):
of it, not just celebrate the winds. So yeah, I
just wanted to add that because it's not always easy.
As we've been discussing.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
No, I got to tell you if I got quiets,
because I believe there are no accidents. I own inspired
a living university. It's a virtual campus for woman. And
just this morning I taped every month I tape a
affirmations audio, they get a video also, and then they
(48:54):
get a stunning post and guess what it was about embracing,
releasing perfectionism in trusting yourself. But all the affirmations were
about it isn't about the outcome, It's about the journey.
Like like what you just so beautifully said, I think
is a message we all have to hear because this
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world and the media and social media is like the
all these faux images of perfection, we are not. I
love to say I'm divinely imperfect, and I tell my
clients take divinely imperfect action. Stop waiting for things in
life or in a situation to be perfect, because guess what,
you'll be waiting forever because there is no perfection.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
You got that right, Linda, And I actually have an
article on my website under my blog called perfectly Imperfect,
and I thought exactly about what you're talking about. And
I honestly, the more real we are, I think, the
more relatable we are to others, and the more relatable
we are, the more connected we are because people can
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see themselves in us when we fumble or we you know,
try or wait, when we're just real, but when we're
so perfectly airbrushed and perfect in every way, not just
physically but emotionally and intellectually, when they were so scripted
and everything's perfect, you know, one can relate to that.
They feel like they're striving for that and they'll never
be good enough. But golly, let's just connect with relatable,
(50:22):
right oh.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Authenticity to me, authenticity, vulnerability, yeah, are the key to
I think human connection, real connection, not the shallow connection.
So I love that message my friend. I love this
whole conversation. We got two minutes left, so oh well,
I know because her and I we could keep going.
(50:46):
This is another phrase you use, which I love. But
I love the language you use in your writing, and
you call it soul shallize, and so instead of socialize,
it's the word soul. At the beginning, I'm curious as
we come to a close, what does that mean to you,
especially now that you're dipping your toe back in the
water of life. What does it mean to you?
Speaker 4 (51:10):
It means letting that invisible wall down, and everyone knows
what I'm talking about. It's especially when we go out
into the world, even if you're walking through the grocery store,
letting that invisible wall drop. Being present and being energetically
accessible to others, not just turning your head or looking down,
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offering yourself, being generous, looking people in the eyes and
saying how are you doing today, and not being scared
they're going to think you're making a move on them,
or they're going to think you're weird, but being you're
just real, authentic expression of who you are without the fears,
and watching as the more energetically and emotionally available and open.
(51:56):
You are that others follow suit and they be come
the same and you instantly feel this connection. You start
laughing with the checkout teller or whatever, and you're like,
oh my god, that was the cutest, fun most fun
little thing. When you're walking out, I totally felt like
I want to be your friend now, you know, because
it's like you're starting this domino effect. You know who's
going to go first?
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Right?
Speaker 4 (52:16):
Life is always about who's going to go first, and
let's do it. You know. It takes courage, it does.
It can be a little scary to do that, but
once again, it's that relatability and that authenticity.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
And something you said to you mentioned the word energy.
For me, it's like, who do I want to be
in the world? And I have chosen. I wasn't always
this way to a aganeal, I have chosen. I want
to be loved and I want to be late, I
want to be joyous. So in my interactions, that's what
I that's the intention I hold, And what you said
earlier is about taking that wall down. In my younger years,
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I had that energetic walll up because I wanted to
protect myself because I couldn't trust things in my childhood,
so of course that was my I guess my norm.
And finally I can remember, you know, I'll say this
quick because we're at the end. I can remember being
in therapy back when I was thirty and I'm sixty
(53:14):
going to be sixty three, just for context, and I
love this woman. Her name is Linda too, and she said,
I want you to write about your emotions. I'm like, oh, no,
you don't and so and this is really vulnerable what
I'm going to share. I couldn't name them. I couldn't
say I'm so angry about my childhood. So I named
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the personality red and White. But part of this story
was I remember writing, if Red ever mix it over
this brick wall, this energetic barrier that I had put
up in my life, all hell's going to break loose,
like I was trying to control the emotions and feelings
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instead of feel them, which goes back to the beginning
of our conversation. So I love what you said. It's
about really soul connecting with people without that wallop.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yes, when I.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
When I finally got over that wall in thera, being
in my own healing journey, it was like, oh my god,
I get myself behind this wall for years, and what's
on the other side is so beautiful and fun and right.
But I was so afraid to feel that I kept red,
the anger, all the other emotions that I didn't want
(54:31):
to deal with. It was so freeing to put that
wall down. Now I believe I energetically feel I don't
have a wallup. So what happens. I attract the most
beautiful souls to me because they can feel our authenticity, truth,
our energy, and more than that, our.
Speaker 4 (54:51):
Heart and they want to play. They want to come
out and play, and it's oh my god.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Everyone says to me, you attract the most amazing people.
I go, you can too. Yes, yes, it isn't, Linda,
it's an everything. I want to continue keeping my channel
clear and listen. Life is don't mean a lot of blows,
especially in the last six years, but I choose to
look at them. It's all happening for me, yes against me? Yep,
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and girl, we could keep this conversation.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Going, I know, good golly, I could just put a
pot of coffee on and sit here for another two hours.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yes, we could, my friend and I want to invite
everyone please visit Tara Janelle at Tarajanell dot com. Everything
is in the show notes. Tara Janelle, thank you, thank.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
You much, thank you Linda. It's been so great to reconnect.
And thanks anyone and everyone who's listening with an open heart.
And I wish everyone well on their journey forward.
Speaker 3 (55:47):
Thank you, and until next time, my friends, choose love,
Choose joy, Choose happiness. Blessings everyone.
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