Enhance Your Connection to Your Inner Wisdom through Creativity & Play with Karen Shier

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topics in a wisdom, creativity and play, and I get

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to circle up with one of my favorite SOL sisters,
Karen Shier. She is joining me today to talk about
this and so much more. Karen is a midlife transformation guide,
desire a factor and Law of Attraction, life coach, energy master,
and best selling author that guides women in release in
what no longer lights them up so they can joyfully

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Speaker 3 (02:32):
Welcome, Karen, oh Well, thank you so much, Linda. I'm
so excited to be here and play with you. In
this space today.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I have to tell you. You know, we have a
personal relationship, so we've had a lot of deep conversations
about everything we're going to be talking about today. Because
you and I are wired pretty similar. We both need
creativity and that energy in our lives to feel fulfilled
and feel aligned and feel connected to something bigger than us.

(03:05):
And I know for you, creativity and play is an
important part of who you are and do you bring
it into your business also, Camn.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yes, yes, I sure do. I find that For so
many years it was just like pushed down. You know,
when you come from corporate, it's all just kind of
pushed down and you forget that piecing yourself.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
But when I.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Can play in my own business and think about creativity,
how can I create creatively look at this issue, how
can I create it creatively bring this information to do
my community, It's just so freeing and so much more fun.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
And I agree completely because that's how I process. And
I want to make a statement here for all who
are listening, who are saying, oh, I'm just not creative.
You are? You are? It's just beveried. So Camen, let's
talk about that for a moment. Right, Because I think
we've all noticed those times in our life when we're

(04:11):
so immersed in a project or a plane or something
that all of a sudden we lose track of time.
That's how you've written about that in the Spying magazine
in fact, and that's the zone of creativity, isn't it? Oh?
It is?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
And it's kind of a wonderful place to be when
all of a sudden you realize you've kind of just
lost yourself in the process and and you're just really
focused on what you're doing, whatever that is for you.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
It just it's it's peaceful, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
You get into that spot where it just feels kind
of peaceful and and all the shoulds and the have
to is in the two to do list, and the
little negative chatter you might hear in your mind just
kind of falls away for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
It's really refreshed, it really is.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And a lot of your work with women is helping
them soothe they're in a critic, so that they can
hear they're in a wisdom right, because as we all know,
my friends in a critic can get very bossy and
loud and take over the conversation. So you've personally used
creativity in a various ways in your own personal development journey,

(05:26):
and like even through article writing and some of your
other messaging, you beautifully share ways that we can all
tap into creativity and play as a tool for enhancing
that connection. So did you notice it in your own
journey how creativity and taken time to play enhanced your journey.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, And I had lost it for so many years
and then found that that was a part of me
that was missing. So I really started to step back
into just trying some new things, you know, things I
hadn't tried before. I took an art class, I took
a painting class. I learned how to do a little
bit of zen tangle, and just even just journaling or

(06:14):
just doodling. You know, I've always been a doodler, but
just doodling it kind of frees you for a little
bit and again calms your mind, It sues sues your mind,
and you just feel so much better. It kind of
takes down that stress when you're when you're in that
stressful or frenetic kind of feel, if you can step

(06:37):
aside and just let yourself doodle or journal it out
or whatever it is, you know, I share a lot
of things in my blogs. I write a lot of
blog posts and things and try to share all these
things that I've kind of done myself and personally experienced.
And I'm always eager to share the things that work

(06:58):
for me and things that might work for other people.
So's that's kind of how I've approached it. And what's
been really fun over the last two or three years
is I've, like I said, I've tried different things that
I hadn't tried before but was always like, oh, that
sounds really neat, or if someone else is doing something.

(07:21):
I discovered diamond painting at a little art class I
was going to never heard of it. Now I love
it and it's easy and you just do you just
kind of immerse yourself in it. So it's been really
good for me.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I love this. And what I've i discovered myself is
even when I was a teenager. I was thinking about
this the other day. I was having a conversation with
a mindfulness teacher and I said, you know, I didn't
realize how much I doodled when I was young in
my journals. It just free phone, just doodling. But it

(07:56):
wasn't just the doodling. I then loved to fill in
all those little sections and color and it became almost
like a mini art piece. And then as you were
just speaking, it brought me back to that moment, and
I'm thinking back. I used to do it a lot
when I was feeling overwhelmed. You know, life was lifey,
as I like to say, and it did. It brought

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me out of the busyness of my mind into the moment.
And it's funny. I think as we become adults, we
go out of have time for creativity and play. I
have to work and do all this. I'm guilty of
that too, and I have to have that outlet. One

(08:38):
thing I love about watching your journey journey Caeron, because
we've known each other a while, is your willingness to
try new creative projects, right Like, you're open to trying
new things, and a lot of women that I talk to,
they're like, oh, I won't be good at that, that's
not my gift, and they shut down the experience of exploring.

(09:01):
So that's what I would call you, a creative explorer.
Does that resonate?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Thank you, Yes, I love that that title, And what's
great about it is you know, I used to be
so perfectionistic in my corporate career and everything had to
be just right. And it's really about when you step
in into your creativity. It's losing that worry about being
perfect and just do it for the joy of it.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
You know, if it's a.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Picture you're painting, don't worry about framing it or putting
it up on wall or what the outcome is going
to be. Do it just for you. Frame it if
you want or don't.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Just just choose.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
What feels good for you, color outside of the lines,
you know, just try it.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Do it for you. It doesn't have to be seen
by anyone else if you don't want it to, or
you can probably display it on your wall where everybody's.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Going to see.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
It's it's just allowing yourself the time and the space
and the fun and the creat activity to just explore
and become your own creative explorer.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, and I love that because I'm glad you talked
about perfectionism. Excuse me, because that is a big thing
for a lot of women. Right I'm not going to
do it if it's not perfect. So while they may
let's say it's they're trying water color painting for the
first time. Instead of just being present in the moment,

(10:27):
those of us and I'm recovering perfectionists, so I get
you can and those of us who struggle with perfectionism,
we're not in the moment as we're painting. We're like,
oh my god, look at that tree's not good. We're
judging that's that done in a critic, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Sure it sure is, And that can often stop us.
I know one of the things that just occurred to me.
I was a single mom for like ten years, and
so I would put off creative things like art things
or buying a little project kid or something because I
don't want to spend the money, right, And it's I

(11:06):
guess the point I want to make with that is,
don't let that stop you. It doesn't have to be
anything that's costly. You know, play with what you have
on hand. You've probably got all sorts of stuff around
the home that you could just whether it's pieces of
fabric or ribbon or paper or whatever it is that
you could just start playing with, or other things like

(11:28):
digging your hands in the dirt gardening. You know, there's
there's lots of things that you can try and you
can do and just try it, and it's really not
so much about the outcome of what you're doing or making.
It's about the piece and the surrender and the mindfulness
that you're going to experience along the way.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I love that, and I love that you said about
exploring in a lot of times, Kevin, we all have
everything need to explore right in our house without even
buying stuff. You want to try collage, Look at all
the cards and papers in your house. You want to paint,
go to the dollar store, grab some inexpensive paints. Just
play as you did when you were a child. That's

(12:14):
how I like to say, like tap into that inner child.
So those are great strategies. We're going to take our
first break, and when we come back, I want to
talk about some of the benefits Karen of making space
and time for creativity and play, because there's so many benefits, ladies.
So we'll be back in a moment. I invite you

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Speaker 2 (14:55):
Welcome back. You're listening to inspired conversations I mean host
Linda Joey with me Today is Midlife Transformation Guide Kevin Shire,
and we're talking about how creativity and play can enhance
our connection to our inner wisdom, soothe thee in a critic,
and you know, bring us back into that joyful spot

(15:17):
that many of us kind of forgotten since childhood. Remember
all the times you played and lost track of time.
We're in the zone. Well we deserve that as adults too,
So cam on. What have you found are some of
the amazing benefits of making space and time for creativity
and play.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
One of the most important things is that creativity and
play of any kind. They connect you directly with your
spirit and higher level energies. It enhances your connection to
your inner wisdom, which we've already talked about a little bit,
but it makes space for that inner wisdom to come in.
And like you mentioned earlier, Linda, you know some people

(16:00):
just think, oh, I'm not creative, but understand that creativity
is already part of your divine human design. That's it's
how you were wired, and it's the place where your
higher self wants you to play.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
It wants you.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
To play in the creativity part of your brain, the
right side of your brain versus the left side of
your brain. And so I think that's really probably the
number one in my opinion, that just directly getting connected
with your spirit and you're in increasing your energetic frequencies

(16:39):
as you're going about the creative play.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh, I agree one hundred percent. Because for me, if
I ever feel stuck, like you know we all have,
like maybe we're working on a project, well maybe there's
a family issue, a health issu or whatever, and you
know the answer is available, but you just can't seem
to grasp it. I didn't walk away. I don't try
to figure it out. I do something fun doodling zent tangle,

(17:03):
as you mentioned earlier, and I love something I just
started maybe eighteen months ago, maybe two years. It's called
dot painting. Yeah, especially on man dollars. I love that
in adult coloring books. Now here's the funny thing, and
it's everything you just shared. That problem is still there

(17:23):
or issue or whatever block. But once I start, like
was to say about the coloring man dollars in my
coloring book, I am so focused in the moment on
the play and the creativity that it's almost like the
divine goes ah, her mind is finally quiet now and
the answer I was yeuning for just freaking drops in.

(17:43):
Does that happen to you too, Camen?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, that's something that's when I get some of my
best ideas, And especially I find that I go to
the play when my mind's really racing or I'm feeling
a little bit down, and so it whatever I'm doing,
it it slow down that thought process.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
It kind of quiets it.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Down, and then all of a sudden, ideas pop in
my head that I hadn't thought of before, and often
they're really good ideas. So it just gives that space
for your inner wisdom to kind of tap you on
the shoulder and go, hey, I've got an I've got
a solution for you. So that's what I love about

(18:24):
it is the magic happens in that space.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It truly does. And one of the other things too,
is it circles back to something you said earlier. When
we're in that space, we're connected to our higher self,
those higher level energies, divine source, whatever your word is for.
And in that space, it's almost as if the inner
critic just sits in a chair in the back of

(18:49):
the room. It's almost like, well for me, I can
only share it. It's like she just is like, okay,
I have to take a back seat here because has
this higher energy just moved in. But what I love
about that is we get to choose right. So when
we feel the inner critics too loud everything you're saying today,

(19:10):
this is a tool we can use to soothe her. Right.
Oh sure, that gives me like, that's so beautiful because
everyone has access to creativity and play and they can
make it unique to them. So let's talk about that
before we go to another benefit. There's something that you shared,
because creativity doesn't always have to mean art work, right,

(19:34):
because you mentioned gardening so shares some of the ways
that creativity could show up because it doesn't have to
be a painting or a craft. There's so many ways
to be creative.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, and I think it it just also comes to
that point of just being present in what you're doing.
But gardening is a big one for me. Just being
outside is a big one for me. And I've mentioned
right right and journaling. But you know, it's kind of
whatever you're into, whatever lights you up. It could be
baking or cooking, or sewing, or maybe you want to

(20:07):
paint a room or build a she shed, whatever it
is for you. Landscaping. I love to do landscaping projects.
And maybe you just have a pantry that needs to
be organized or a MESSI closet that needs to be organized,
and you put your creative juices into that. It doesn't

(20:27):
sound like a fun, creative play, but when you get done,
you probably will feel really good and really accomplished, and
that's the space that you want to be in. I
also like creativity, which comes in the form of creating
unusual uses for common things. I used to live on

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a lake and I took a I had this little
plastic stool and I had this plastic tote that I
actually sat on top of the stool and we screwed
it together, and I would use it on my dock
to hold, like if I was journaling or wanted to
take a book or a iced tea.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Down to the dock.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
As the boats went by, the dock would of course
move with the waves, and I didn't want my things
spilling all over. So it was just creating a solution
for something that was very useful to me, and I
actually still use it today, even though my home with
the dock in the lake is long gone.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
It's it's just.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
I think I've got I've always had a knack for that.
I'll use things that you know, most people would probably
throw away and I'll create a new use for them.
That's creative play. So it's all those kinds of things.
There's really no rules for creative play. It can be
whatever you want it to be and whatever you make
it to be. The main point is I think it

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brings you into the present moment awareness while you're doing it.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
It lets lets.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Things fall away, lets your to do lists fall away,
and it in hances your connection with your spirit, your
inner wisdom, and it just feels really good.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It does. And one of the things that I noticed
in a conversations I've held because I have so many
women's communities, is it's almost like we don't as women,
don't give ourselves permission to play. We think it's I
don't have time for that. But what I want this
episode and everything you're sharing is to inspire a woman

(22:26):
to say you are worthy of creating space in your
own life to play. Think about all the times and
you write about this in a recent article, your recent column,
I should say, like, think back to the times in
your life as a child, and you mentioned something that
brought beautiful memories back for me is those hook and

(22:48):
loop potholders right painting chalk on the sidewalks, all these things.
I remember the hooked rug kits too, Kim, And so
thank you for that memory way back that years. We
forget that we are innately come here as creative, energetic beans,

(23:09):
and then as we grow in the human form, it's
like life, I don't know, suffocates that part of ourselves.
Have you noticed that too, It's like, as a woman,
we have to reconnect with that part of ourselves.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
You really do, because life kind of you know, just yeah,
like you said, it just kind of sucked it out
of us over time, right, And I before I started
on this journey of bringing more creativity into my life,
you're stuck with that question of what am I going

(23:42):
to do?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
What do I try? What do I do?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
You know?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
And I always kind of talk to my clients about
dig back into your childhood. Think about those things that
you liked back then that might spur other some other ideas,
or maybe it's something you always wanted to do or
never did. You know, the hook and loop potholders really

(24:06):
does date me. But also you know, things like make
a macaroni frame or a button frame, or collaging.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
One of the things that I made.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
I used to make really beautiful photo albums, the fabric
covered photo albums, and I still have them. We don't
really most people don't generally have a use for those anymore,
with digital cameras and things.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
But just to give ideas, you.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Know, handmake some cards, make homemade candles, maybe you made
holiday ornaments. Make holiday ornaments out of natural things, you know,
things in nature, twigs and moss and things like that.
Really just dip into you know, kind of what those
things were that you did, but also how did your

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younger self feel when you engaged in those activities. Maybe
you just went out and climbed the tree.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
It's it's just engaging and allowing yourself the peace and
the surrender and the fun of a creative play, whatever
that is for you.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
I love that. And one of the things too, is
I can remember when, just for reference to the listeners,
my daughter is going to be forty one, but when
she was young, I was a single mother too, and
she's was just a born creative. My granddaughter is too,
and I wanted to nurture that. So I'd have some
girlfriends over back then. Vision boards were really big. They

(25:35):
still are, but I remember how exciting it was thirty
forty years ago. And then we'd set up a whole
craft table and I'd bring like two other women who
were in my circle that also had children, and would
set up crafts for the kids. We didn't tell them
what to do. We just put everything there and they
did what they wanted while we did our thing. I
got to tell you, those are some of the best

(25:56):
memories of just circling with others in being creative. So
we're going to take another break, Kim. When we come back,
let's talk about a few more of the benefits and
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Speaker 2 (28:48):
Thanks for being here today. You're circled up with host
Linda Joy. That's me. I'm my special guest Karen Sheier. So, Camen,
let's go back to some other benefits of making space
and time for creativity and play.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Oh, i'd love to you know. One of the things
I love about this is.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Even if you feel like you're in that spot of
not being creative, what you'll find is when you engage
in play more those creative neuropathways on the right side
of your brain, they're going to reignite to the point
that creativity and fun becomes your desire on a consistent basis.
You'll be drawn to it. And the more you play,
the happier you'll be, and your energetic vibration will increase significantly,

(29:32):
and that even brings more good things into your life,
because a universe will match you where you're at. Right
If you're vibrating at a higher level, the universe is
going to bring more higher level things your way. And
it's quite a magical thing when you see this start
to happen.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
But one of the things, too, is.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
A really great benefit is being able to go back
and use your imagination again because it creates creatively help
helps you to grow and it helps you to grow
beyond your self important excuse me, self imposed borders.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Of shoulds and have tos. We all have those endless
to do list, yes, but you.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Tend to become when you start tapping into that creativity.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
You tend to become.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
More open to unique ideas and insights, and that will
also lead you to greater innervation and excitement within your life.
You'll look at things differently, and I think that's just
a lovely benefit. It tends to open up your world,
I guess would be a good way to say that.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh I agree. And something you said too is about
the universe matches our energy when we're feeling a little
off or down. As you said, I love this that
creativity is a vibe lifter, right. Sometimes it's normal, come on,
we all feel stock or downs sometimes. But it's important
that we have tools that we can turn to, and
that's why Cameron is an extraordinary coach. But we all

(31:05):
have access to creativity and play in the moment right
and to me, when we feel that way, I think
it's a powerful tool to help us elevate our vibration
so that we can open up to possibility and call
in that we desire. So I'm so glad that you
brought that up about it's a tool to help us

(31:26):
just come up a little higher in our vibe. And
I loved you talked about those self imposed shoulds and
have dos because that was a big one for me
for many years. So let's share one more benefit and
then we'll continue with our conversation.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
For me, what I have found that when I started
engaging in creative endeavors, it kind of reminded me of
my self worth. It also builds self confidence. Whether whether
the project is frame worthy at the end, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
You did it.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
You engage, you made something, and it just makes you
feel good. And I think it again just makes you
more self confident in trying other things, other things in
your normal everyday work or reaching out to friends or
anything like that. When you feel good, you're more likely

(32:28):
to kind of reach outside of yourself. If that makes.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Sense, Oh, it definitely doesn't. And I agree with the
self confidence thing too, because it's like you also honored
a commitment to youselv Like if you said, oh, I'm
going to play this Wednesday, even if you didn't define
what that was, and then you show up and allow
the creativity to flow. It's like this building the trust
muscles with your relationship with yourself too.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh yes, I found too.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
A nice benefit was I just obviously feel more peaceful
when I was engaging, And the more I engage, the
more peaceful I feel. Impatient and content and those were
some things that I had lost for a while, those senses.
And I think more more content and peaceful with your

(33:18):
sense of your true self. Yeah, it just there's so
many good.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
About people are part of who we are right here
and not the surface stuff because I think a lot
of us really forgot parts aboutself because the world can
get heavy yet sometimes and as you've so beautifully shared
throughout us knowing each other, you know, when you're in
a corporate career for a long time, the majority of
companies don't want you to be identify with self, So

(33:49):
you got to shut down all these pots of yourself.
And I love that you've recommitted since leaving corporate to like,
I am bringing out the play and fun, I am
tapping into my intuition. I am breaking the shulds in
half tos. I've witnessed it in you and it's been
beautiful because I also see that you're passionate about guiding others.

(34:09):
But I think it's so important to rediscover and reconnect
with those lost parts of ourselves. So I'm so glad
that you use that word because I know so many
women feeling disconnected from themselves.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
They forget who they truly are. Yeah, and they just
you forget what makes me happy?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
What do I like?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
What brings me joy? And this gives you an opportunity
to figure that out again.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, it truly does. And you mentioned I think it's
called diamond heart painting, and I remember the first time
I saw one of your your finished projects, I'm like,
I want to do that. So my grandson just gave
me a kit. I haven't started it yet, so I'm
excited too to dive in. When I did look at
all those little pieces cam and I'm like, she works

(34:59):
with these little little thing So but I'm excited. I
have another question for you. Do you yourself find it's
better to create sacred space in your calendar for play
because I notice if I don't do that, life, everything

(35:21):
else will fill that space. So I'm curious, how do
you nurture your creativity?

Speaker 4 (35:27):
I at first yes.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
The short answer is yes, I do have to plan
for creative play. And by doing that, like within my
business and within my everyday life, there's things that I
will keep my calendar open. I won't schedule things during
certain periods of time so that I have time for
that creative play.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
And I definitely do I put it on my calendar
as that time.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I put it on my calendar as my free time
so that I can decide in.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
That moment, what do I want to do today.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I might feel like journaling, or I might feel like
doing the diamond painting, or I might feel like playing
out in the garden. So I do schedule the time.
I don't necessarily schedule it down for me to what
I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Oh, I'm the same way. I just leave it. I
just do hashtag playtime and I get to go in
that moment when it pops in my calendar of what
I'm intuitively being led to. But if I had, if
I was forced to go pick it, I know what
wouldn't happen mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Or you'd feel a little reasentful because it's maybe it's
not what you really want to do in that moment.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
That's what that's what happens to me.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
It would feel more like a task to do this
kind of thing, that I have to do this, I
have to spend a half hour on this, And that's
that's not what this is about. This is about releasing
and coming into yourself and being mindful in the present
moment and just doing something that lights you up. You
don't want it to become You want to spend the

(37:05):
time or dedicate some time to whatever it is it
lights you up, but don't get so granular that it
becomes something that you feel like you have to do
because it kind of takes away all the benefits.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh yeah, definitely. And I know we touched back about
childhood and the things we used to love to do
and one of the things when probably about thirty years ago,
I went through a dark knight of the soul and
I lost some of my creative connections and the healing
process and I remember, I don't know if it was
a session I was in with a therapist or a group,

(37:41):
like it was way back when, so I can't remember exactly,
but they said, write a letter to you the child
from back then, and like you're interviewing the child and
asking what do you love to do, what colors do
you like, what makes you feel good? And try to
reconnect with that part of you that love to create

(38:03):
back then, because like many of us, we may not
have conscious memories of those things. So if you are
feeling stock, try that fun exercise. Because you were born
a creative being, you were born from creation, So let
me see what else. I know there was something else,
do you see? You use the word surrender, right, which

(38:26):
I love because that's the feminine, and it says in
your column, the more you surrender to your creativity, the
more you'll desire to prioritize this sacred time. And then
you said in life starts to flow with more ease
and grace, and I'm like, oh, yes, we all want
more easing grace, So surrender. When you use that word

(38:47):
surrender to your creativity, are you referring to what you
just shared with us, like create the space for it,
but surrendered to what it's going to look like? Like
you don't like to schedule in the exact project. Is
that what you mean when you say surrender to your creativity?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah? I think it's both of those things, but also.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
It kind of dips into surrendering that you're in that space,
you're in that time. Maybe you make it a ritual
and this is your time to nurture yourself and surrendering
so that you can just allow yourself the freedom, allow

(39:32):
yourself the freedom of play, and immerse all of your
senses into the activity. You know, allow yourself to explore
how does it feel with you? You know, at the time
you're doing it, you use all your senses.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
What can you taste, see? What can you hear? What
do you smell?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
How are you feeling in that moment? What memories come
up for you? It's really surrendering to wherever that wherever
your inner wisdom takes you. Don't One of the things
I like to say is, you know, if you get
a kit or you're doing an art thing, don't follow
the rules. If you don't want to, just surrender to

(40:16):
however you want to do it. Maybe your intention changes
as you go along.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Follow that.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's really just surrendering to your spirit and letting your
spirit guide you and following where your spirit is leading you,
even if it doesn't feel like it makes sense and
your logic brain steps back in. Just just go with
the surrender and go with where this is going to
take you, and you're going to be so pleased with

(40:43):
the results.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Just feel so free in just hearing you describe it.
So thank you for that. We're going to take a
final break and let me come back for the last segment.
I'm going to invite you to share some ways they
can just get started playing with their creativity and teching
into their inner wisdom. We'll be back in a moment,
my friends. You'll listen to inspire conversations. My special guest

(41:09):
is Karen Shier. You can learn more at Karenshirecoaching dot com.
You'll find the link in the show notes. We'll be
back in a moment.

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Speaker 2 (43:32):
Welcome back and listen to inspired conversations. I'm so glad
you're circling up with me and my special guest, Kearon Shier.
We're talking about play, creativity and how they help support
your connection to here in a wisdom, as well as
all the other benefits they bring to our lives. So,
in our final segment, could you share some ways that

(43:56):
if someone's like, yes, I need this, I feel like
this is missing from my life, or I want to
explore more, what are some ways they can get started?

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Camon, Yes, well, obviously just get started, but say us
to yourself, give yourself permission and the time to play as.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Often as you can, even if it's just ten minutes
to start.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Your heart needs you to kind of let your hair
down a bit and just immerse yourself in the play.
And one tool that I like to share is that
when your inner critic starts to chatter, and she will,
she's going to say things like you don't have time
for this, or you can't do this, or whatever other
little insidious thing that comes to you, acknowledge it. Just

(44:42):
say you know what, thank you, I hear you. Now
I'm going to go play, and don't allow her to
get you down. Don't allow her to stop your progression.
Simply enjoy your creative commitment to yourself as you connect
with your inner wisdom. And said, just let her sit
in the back seat for a little while. Excuse me,

(45:03):
and I think again. We talked about this a little bit.
But don't worry about being perfect. Do it just for
the joy of it. If it's a picture you're painting,
don't worry about framing it, just do it for fun.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I love that because perfectionism can really stop us from
enjoying the flow of life, can't it. And I'm so
excited because Karon is going to be sharing a couple
more ways that we can get started with playing creativity

(45:47):
in our life. So Kevin will be back in a moment,
so sorry about that. That's okay, And so Cameron, what's
another Perfectionism? As I just shared is a big one.
What's another one? Another way they can get started? Because

(46:11):
we have so many different personalities and energy types. Listening
to our show today.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
I would say, no boundaries, try something new, do it
your way. Excuse me, I had a coughing fit, so
I apologize, and again follow the instructions only if you
want to do what feels good to you. Color outside

(46:40):
of the lines. It doesn't have to be costly, play
with what you have on hands. And then, just like
I mentioned before, just immerse all of your senses into
the activity and really focus on that it brings you
into the present moment. How am I feeling right now?
Am I enjoying this? What could make it better?

Speaker 4 (47:02):
What am i?

Speaker 3 (47:03):
What am I hearing right now? What am I smelling
and tasting and feeling? And one of the things I'd
like to do, especially if I'm going to schedule a
creativity time for me, Let's say it's on a Friday
and I don't have any other meetings, I want to
make it a ritual, because a ritual and will enhance

(47:25):
my creativity time. So I might light some candles, I
might get some crystals, I might go grab my favorite
beverage or you know, a cafe mocha or something like that,
and just make it a special time. And that makes
my experience more enticing, more joyful.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
And it makes me look forward to it.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
And again, the more you play, the more you're going
to want to, and the more that you want to,
the more you're going to make it a priority, and
the more you're going to play, and that just makes
your heart happy.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, that really spoke to me when you said that,
because I love rituals anyway, but when you said create
a ritual and light candles, et cetera, what my body,
what my energy immediately felt was it's like I am
worthy of my own time and attention. Like that's what
I felt like when as you were saying to set

(48:17):
up that ritual, I'm like, it creates something sacred and
beautiful with the higher self within us. So to me,
I love that part. I love about setting. I call
it like setting the space right, and I think that
is so key. And I know one of the other

(48:38):
things too, is we all have this deep yearning I
believe to be more creative, we might use different words. So, ladies,
if you might not use those words like I am creative,
If you feel a creativity doesn't come natural to you,
I want you to know that it's in nate part

(49:00):
of you, that just part of the human experience kind
of makes you feel disconnected from it. And that's why
this whole creative exploration that Karen's been sharing today is
so key. No judgment, just play, go back to that
childhood part of yourself and call her forward. Have fun.

(49:26):
I love creating little affirmation cards and playing with pieces
of paper and ripping them out and doing collage. And
this whole conversation has reminded me that I've had a
busy month and I do express my creativity through business.
But I think I'm going to take out that diamond
painting kit that my grandson got me today, got me

(49:49):
this week. So Karen, thank you for that inspiration. My friend.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Oh, you're so welcome. It's addictive. You're going to have
fun with it?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yes, looking forward to it. So we still have a
few minutes left. Let's tie it back into you know,
creativity as in enhanswer to connecting with our in a wisdom.
So let's say someone's in the creative process is like,
do you do anything? Do you feel like you invite

(50:20):
your intuition to step into a conversation or is it
just in the space created you just feel the opening.
I'm curious how you experience it yourself and your body.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Well, it's it's a little bit of both.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
I'll start my creative player or my creative time with
and with setting an intention, and I think that kind
of helps me connect with spirit in that moment. And
you know, whether my intention is to, hey, I'm going
to work on this today and I want to feel
me talk about how I want to feel in this moment,

(50:55):
and I want to release you know, all the to
do's in those kinds of things in this in this time.
But when I start getting into the play in in
in that space of just immersing myself, that that peaceful,
calm space where the other stuff has fallen away again,
that's generally where that's generally when the good ideas do

(51:19):
drop in, or the inspirations drop in, or things that
you know, I thought were that have been nagging me
as a problem, all of a sudden a solution will
drop in. I hadn't thought of, So it's kind of
in that that space of surrender is maybe a good
good way to describe that, that time and space.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Hmmm. I love that, and I just I just love
how when we're in that that flow of surrender, the
answers we need, which have always been within us, can
actually be heard because we're quieting that other little voice within.
So it's like, yes, we're connecting with the divine and

(52:03):
it's giving our spirit or source, whatever your personal word is,
and it's given as the information. But I've started to
on my own personal understanding of how I receive. It's
almost like, instead of being given to us, I feel
like it's revealed because it's the answers. We all know
the answers, but we shot out intuition off because we're

(52:25):
always listening to the inn a critic, and so it's like, oh,
she's finally listening. Let me reveal the answer that was
already within her. Do you feel that sometimes, too, Camon.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Oh for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I'm glad you brought that up, because it is it's
a time of surrender and revelation when you can get
in that space and connect with your spirit and your
your automatically. You know, you're just feeling better and you're
feeling peaceful, and amazing things just pop in.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
It's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
It really like you, like I get, as you know,
the names of my books for my publishing company drop in.
When I create the space at the end of a
year to receive right, all my businesses were born out
of my in products and programs were born out of
what you call that surrender to creativity and flow. If

(53:20):
I didn't surrender, I wouldn't have the space, energetic space
to receive all these insights. And so this has been
such a fun and empowering conversation and I want to
invite everyone again. Please go to Karenshirecoaching dot com. You'll
see she has a free e guide gift there how
to soothe your inner critics so you can hear your

(53:41):
inner wisdom. But she has an empowering blog, she has
a YouTube channel, and so much more. So go to
Karenshirecoaching dot com. Check the notes for the links, and Karen,
my friend. This is such a beautiful conversation and all
my favorite topics. So thank you, oh.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Thank you for having me. I think it's just so
such an important thing to get out there and invite
invite women to play and rediscover themselves.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah so, ladies, this is a sacred invitation to play more,
to surrender, to muse creativity, to elevate your vibe so
you can call in what you deserve, in what you desire.
Until next time, my friends, choose low, choose joy, Choose happiness.

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