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January 29, 2025 57 mins
Air Date - 28 January 2025

Self-nurturing expert and Counselor Kelley Grimes shares self-nurturing practices to support you in transforming your cycle of self-neglect into a beautiful practice of self-nurturing. Rather than living from obligation and overwhelm, you will learn to cultivate a life filled with self-compassion and self-love.

About the Guest:

Kelley Grimes, MSW, is a counselor, keynote speaker, workshop facilitator, internationally bestselling author, Aspire Magazine expert columnist, and self-nurturing expert.

She is passionate about empowering overwhelmed and exhausted women to live with more peace, joy, and meaning through the practice of self-nurturing to heal and transform the world.

Kelley also provides professional and leadership development to organizations dedicated to making the world a better place. Her international bestselling book, The Art of Self-Nurturing: A Field Guide To Living With More Peace, Joy, and Meaning, is transforming women’s lives. Now, you can get a self-paced digital The Art of Self-Nurturing Course filled with meditations and mantras, yoga poses, self-compassion practices, and journaling prompts.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:24):
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on your path to authentic, soulful living.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome to Inspired Conversations. I'm your host, Linda Joy, mindset
elevation coach, intentional living guide and publisher of the beloved
Aspire magazine. Today we're going to be talking with a
dear friend. She's a soul sister. Yes, she's a a
mag expert calumnis, but in my personal life, she's so

(01:04):
much more because she's been a critical part of my
personal journey of learning how to nurture myself. And we'll
talk about that more in a moment, because I got
to tell you, ladies, it's really time to nurture the
most important relationship you will ever have, and that's the
one with you. Joining me today is Kelly Grimes, counselor,

(01:27):
keynote speaker, I workshop facilitator, internationally bestselling author. I was
honored to publish her book, which we'll talk about in
one moment. She is also, as I shared, an ASPIAMAG expert, calumnist,
and a self nurturing expert. She is so passionate as
you'll discover about empowering overwhelmed and exhausted woman to live

(01:49):
with more peace, joy and meaning through the practice of
self nurturing to heal and transform the world. It creates
a ripple effect of my life friends. She also provides
professional and leadership development to organizations dedicated to making the
world a better place. Her international bestselling book, The Art

(02:10):
of Self Nurturing, a field guide to living with more peace,
joy and Meaning, is transforming women's lives around the world.
You can also now get the Art of Self Nurturing
self paced digital course filled with meditation, Joga posa's self
compassion practices in so much more. You can learn more

(02:31):
at Cultivating Peace and Joy dot com. Kelly, thank you,
thank you for joining me today.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Thank you so much. Linda, what a beautiful introduction. I'm
so excited about this conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I think now more than ever, my friend, we
have got to start loving and nurturing ourselves. I think
we're all on this for many of us. And I
talked to many women on this treadmill of Lake over
committing overwhelmed. Life is happening so fast, and what do
we do we put ourselves at the longer the you know,

(03:07):
at the end of the long to do list. Are
you finding that too?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I think that there's an intention that is so important
to be brought to all of this because there are
so many things, so many responsibilities, so many people to
support in our lives, and I think for many of
us it gives us a lot of purpose and meaning.
I know I love the work that I do in
the world. But what I found is the more that

(03:34):
we prioritize everything outside ourselves, we end up in a
place where we're so overwhelmed and exhausted and maybe even
resentful that we can't show up any longer in the
way that we really want to. From that place of
compassion and love and curiosity and deeply, you know, feeling

(03:54):
deep sense of connection in our lives, and so indeed,
I believe really the key to that is learning how
with a lot of self compassion, Linda, learning how to
prioritize ourselves and seeing that it's not an either or formula,
it's a both, and that the more we really find

(04:18):
ways to be nurturing and loving and supportive to our
own selves, the more that we have to offer, the
more light, the more love, the more compassion we have
to offer to the world.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And I found that so true, and in the intro
I shared, you know, the other one I turned to
when I can feel like life has kind of getting
a little life, ye, And we've had deep conversations. We've
known each other close to a decade, and even when
I went through my surgeries, and you know, we have
this tendency to go, Okay, yeah, I'm ready, but I
wasn't slowing down enough to truly nurture myself through different

(04:53):
experiences in my life. And You've been a big part,
and I just want to I just want to share
that with you. And I know I've shared it personally
with you, but not only your wisdom and your message
and your book has played a big part in my
personal life. It's the whole mindset as a woman who
used to put herself at the end of the to
do list. It is a mindset and an intention, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
It really is, And I think it's the mindset piece
that needs ongoing nurturing and support. When we're able to
see that caring for ourselves and nurturing ourselves, you know,
fills up our reserves so that we really can be
present with each other. When we understand that, it's easier

(05:40):
to prioritize, right. So I often say, like the gift
of self nurturing is it. The more that you do it,
the more you value and really like honor yourself. And
the more you do that, the more that you're able
to prioritize nurturing yourself. So it ends up being a
self sustaining process. But the first big step, I think

(06:00):
most people know intellectually, Linda, that it's a good idea
to care for themselves. It's a good idea to be
nurturing and kind and compassionate. But it's in the doing
of that that we get stuck. And I think that's
where the mindset piece is so important. It's recognizing that
when you have an old belief that comes up like,

(06:21):
perhaps the belief comes up that it's selfish that you
have to counter that, that you have to really challenge
that is that true? Is it selfish for me to
care for myself in this moment so that I can
show up more authentically and in the best part of me?
Is that really selfish? Or is that actually in the
highest good of all? And so I think that there's

(06:42):
a process of really being reflective and introspective and a
lot of the work that I do both in the
book with clients in the online course, is there spaces
for that kind of reflective journaling, questioning, being with ourselves,
because it's in those times that we really get to

(07:04):
understand what are the obstacles to us doing that. Any
of us could say that the obstacle is time, Linda,
But the fact is that we all have the same
twenty four hours in a day. Right. If we prioritize
all that time for all the other caring that we do, well,
then it does feel like we don't have time. But
if instead we have these moments that are already scheduled

(07:27):
and in our calendars where we say, you know, I'm
going to take ten minutes to do some meditation in
the morning, or I'm going to prioritize taking a walk
because I know I always feel better and more energized
when I take a walk, Or I'm going to take
time to maybe declutter a part of my room or

(07:49):
my office so that it feels nurturing. The fact is
that self nurturing can come in any form, but it
is the intention that we bring to it. The intention
really is that I have value and worth, and that
I deserve to carve out time so that I can

(08:10):
fill up and really feel connected to myself. I don't
know about you, Linda, but so much of the time,
when I get into being overscheduled or you know, too
many responsibilities or commitments and start feeling that overwhelm, I
feel disconnected for myself right, and so part of the

(08:31):
process of practicing self nurturing is having times and spaces
where we intentionally reconnect with ourselves to check in. We
have so much wisdom within us, and when we only
focus externally, we miss out on hearing the depth of
insight and inspiration and wisdom and all the things that

(08:52):
reside within us that really support us in living our
best lives.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, and something, and I love many things about your message.
But there's always a statement you make, and I know
you have it in multiple places. I don't have the
exact quote, but you truly believe that when we nurture
peace within us, we nurture peace in the world as
a ripple effect.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Absolutely, and I believe that when we commit to prioritizing
nurturing ourselves, we can heal and transform the world because
oftentimes our relationships suffer, our work suffers, there's all these
our health suffers. It's such a huge one. All of
these things suffer when we believe that we need to

(09:39):
be perfect and be caring for everyone in our lives
except ourselves, and like feed into that self sacrificing mother
kind of paradigm. You know that a lot of us
have been taught and actually we find that when we
shift and recognize that we're an important like, we can

(10:00):
have love three sixty. It doesn't just have to be
loving everyone else without loving ourselves. We can do all
of it, and when we do all of it, we
actually do heal and transform the world. You know, most
people are deeply have a deep desire to feel a
sense of authentic connection with others, to feel seen, to

(10:21):
feel heard, to feel appreciated and acknowledged. And when we
can start and do that for ourselves, we have the
ability to really have those meaningful connections with other people
because we can show up and do that for them
in a way that doesn't drain us, that doesn't you know,

(10:43):
lead us into feeling like, oh gosh, another person that
needs me. Instead, it can be a joyful experience that
actually is healing and supportive to the other.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I love that And just like as you speak, and
you can feel that in your body too, how it
creates a ripple. And we're also teaching those we love
how to nurture themselves because I think as women with
the nurtures of the next generation, our children are always watching,
as our grandchildren are always watching us, and we don't
want to give the message that we are supposed to

(11:16):
be last on our own in our own lives. So
I think it's a role model thing too for me anyway.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, and I see that ripple out. I know when
I first started my own journey and started recognizing what
a difference these practices made, and I started doing workshops,
and of course it was like my friends and clients
and things that did my first workshops and it was
so amazing to hear what a difference that it made,
even prioritizing like using the bathroom by yourself for parents

(11:48):
of small kids, Like I had one friend that said,
oh my gosh, that changed everything because all of the sudden,
I included myself in my list of the needs of
the moment, or you know, what I felt, or other
things like I was part of it instead of seeing
myself only as the one. And that's rippled over to

(12:11):
her daughters, and now her daughters prioritize and care for themselves,
and I see that we can be a positive force
in that in a way of modeling. And modeling is
different than saying to somebody like, well are you taking
care of yourself? Are you nurturing yourself? Like I think
sometimes we want to be supportive to other people, but

(12:34):
that ends up feeling like another to do on people's list.
So our modeling is the most powerful thing. You know,
people notice if you're lit up, if you're joyful, and
people notice like, what are you doing? Like I want
to be part of that kind of thing, And it's
a more supportive way to encourage this, you know, transformation.

(12:58):
Really in the way that we as women engage in
our lives than just saying to somebody, are you nurturing yourself?
Because that can feel judgmental, it can feel overwhelming, But
you could talk about what you're doing, you know. Oh
my gosh, It's made such a difference for me that
I have this beautiful self nurturing morning practice where before
I even get out of bed, I meditate, I do

(13:21):
some eft tapping, I set an intention for the day,
and I acknowledge a few things that I'm grateful for,
and then I get out of bed, so I don't
pick up my phone before that. I don't, you know,
look for text or emails or anything that will take
my focus external to start the day. I start the

(13:41):
day with that, and then my beautiful cup of coffee
in a walk like I put it in my schedule.
And even this week I needed to leave early to
support my mother in law at a doctor's appointment. Well
I just scheduled it earlier so I could still do it.
So I don't let that fall out. That's a non negotiable,
and I have it, and my schedule is sacred self nurturing.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh I love this, And what a sacred reminder for
all of us. Kelly, We're going to take our first
break and when we come back, we're going to dive
deeper into this topic. My friends, and again I want
you to visit Kelly at Cultivatingpeaceanjoy dot com. Will be
back in a moment, my.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
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Speaker 1 (14:29):
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author of the best seller The Art of Self Nurturing,
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Speaker 2 (16:30):
Welcome back. You're listening to inspired Conversations with me. Is
Kelly Grimes, best selling author of the Art of Self Nurturing,
a field guide to living with more peace, joy and meaning.
As she is also a self nurturing expert, and that's
what we're talking about today. And Kelly, right before the break,
you shared how important it is to I love that

(16:52):
you said you put it right in your schedule, sacred
self nurturing, and I think that has been a big
thing that I've done. It's really really helped me because
we schedule everything else in but never ourselves, so that
one really hit home of how powerful it is. So
for those who are listening Kelly, because I'm sure you've

(17:13):
gotten this question before, what's the difference between self nurturing
and self care because we always hear everything self care, right, Yeah, difference,
you know.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's It's so interesting because I think when I first
developed or started using that, there weren't people using the
phrase self nurturing. And I believe self nurturing is about
the relationship that you are cultivating with yourself, whereas self
care are activities that you do now. Self nurturing, as

(17:48):
I was saying earlier, can be any activity any way
you engage with yourself that you bring that intention to
And a big thing I think about first and foremost
is self compassion. Self compassion has been one of the
most healing practices that I have integrated into my life,
I would say, and maybe the last ten years specifically,

(18:11):
it has been revolutionary because I used to hold myself
to such high expectations and standards of perfectionism, and you know,
I need to say yes to everything, and it's my
job to make everybody happy and have everybody supported. And
when I wasn't able to do that, which of course
it's not sustainable, no one really can, I would really

(18:35):
be so down on myself and beat myself up. And
so what I found is the liberation through treating myself
with a lot of compassion and really coming to myself
and saying, wow, okay, that didn't go the way that
you wanted. You know, what did you learn from that?
And you know, speak to myself like I would a
dear friend. And so that's really what I see. There's

(18:57):
the flavor of self nurturing is a holistic approach to
our lives. It's not just activities, it's the relationship. So
it's the self compassion, it's the self awareness. Self awareness
is a huge, huge part of self nurturing. When we
care for everybody except for ourselves, we typically stop being

(19:19):
in touch with what we feel, with what we need
with what we would want to advocate for. I can't
tell you how many women that I've worked with that
have said I don't know what would bring me joy,
Like so much of my time life is spent caring
for other people I just don't even know. And so
part of self awareness, part of being able to make

(19:41):
nurturing choices for ourselves, Linda, is to be able to
be aware of how we're feeling and what we need
and tuning into the body, really tuning in how is
my body feeling?

Speaker 6 (19:54):
You know?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I have a practice of inviting people to place their
hand on their heart and breathe for a few you
intentional breasts, and then tune in, like, what is the
wisdom of my heart telling me right now? Really coming
back to this sense, and I find that the huge
step in cultivating a self nurturing practice is actually developing

(20:16):
more self awareness. And the more that women do, then
the more that they're aware when they need to set boundaries,
when they need to take a break, when they need
to rest, when they need to say yes enthusiastically, and
when they need to say, you know what, I need
some more time to think about that, they'll just be
so much more in tune with that, and then they

(20:39):
can make nurturing choices as a result. So self nurturing.
You know, I think some people still want to use
self care, you know, Lilinda, I am fully encouraging people
to use whatever they need to use, but if you
expand it, I would just invite people just expand it
out to self nurturing and see how that feels. Think
about a time, you know, when you have really nurtured

(21:03):
somebody else in your life. What did it look like?
You can explore from that perspective, you know, a dear friend.
You know, what would you say to a dear friend
if they came to you with this challenge or a
mistake they made or something, what would you say to them?
And you can start to bring that to your own
self in a way that will demonstrate your love and

(21:28):
support and nurturing to yourself. That's the exciting part for me.
I love in the work that I do because I
get to hear from people saying like, I'm so much
more confident because I listened to myself. I'm so much
more authentic and how I express myself. Because I'm in
tune with that, I'm so much happier in my relationships
because I've finally started setting boundaries and the people are

(21:49):
grateful that whole Brene Brown clarity is kindness. Well, you
can only have clarity if you have that kind of
self awareness and start with self compassion, because if you
have self awareness but you don't have self compassion, you
can use that to keep yourself stuck. But if you
have self compassion and then you start to bring more

(22:10):
self awareness, like, the possibilities are endless.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
I love this. Something you said too is treating yourself
like you would treat a friend, right, And I know
you share about that in the book, and that to
me was a big thing when you said that to
me in a personal call many years ago. And i'll
paraphrase what you said, but you said, Linda, you take
care of everyone else. You're so loving and supportive and

(22:36):
et cetera. Why aren't you given those things to yourself?
And I'm paraphrasing our conversation and I was like, oooh, right,
because we do. We want to give to everyone else
and nurture them and love them and care for them.
And your message resonates on a soul level with me
because it's like we've forgotten ourselves as women, and so

(22:59):
everything you just sha was just brought me back to
that moment calible. So what do you say to a
woman who really have a hard time like I used to,
prioritizing themselves even though like they want to, they know
they need to. What is a piece of advice before
we go to the next break that you would share

(23:22):
with them?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Start small, Start all. It doesn't have to be huge
periods of time, right. It can be five minutes. It
can be choosing to pause and breathe and check in
with yourself for five minutes once a day. You could
just start with that and then add on. But I

(23:43):
think that anytime we commit to something and want to
make it a practice, it needs to be small so
that it is so we have a sense of success
in doing it, we have a sense of benefit. It doesn't,
and that we don't set ourselves up to feel like, oh,
here's one more thing I'm not good enough with. You know,

(24:06):
I can't even do self nurturing, right, you know kind
of thing I really want to encourage, just you know,
like a growth mindset around all of it. Just start
small and be curious. What are you learning about yourself?
How does it feel when you pause for a few
minutes and check in, and I think you can put it, Linda.

(24:28):
At times, maybe you would do something else, like if
you're already doing something that's nurturing, taking a walk, well
maybe you just bring the intention of it being nurturing
when you do it. Because I'm sure that there's things
that people are already doing but they don't see it
as a nurturing act because it's another to do on
their list. So shifting the mindset around seeing it is

(24:48):
like this act of love and kindness for yourself.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I think that's powerful because one of the things that's
really transformed in my life, you know, since we've known
each other, is I used to open my eyes, grab
the phone and scroll and allow everything to come in
to me. Now it's been such a commitment for so long.
I listen to a guided meditation so that I really

(25:13):
truly love. It brings me right into my soul. So
I'm starting my day in intentional energy, beautiful soul energy
that has been It's only fifteen minutes, but it's a
beautiful way to wake up and be warm in my
bed and stop my It feels like I'm starting my
day in a loving embrace. That's the best way I

(25:34):
can and it shifts the rest of the day.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more. I have periodically
jumped out to do something that needed tending to, and Wow,
I can tell immediately what a difference it feels to
really prioritize that morning time. And it could be fifteen minutes,
it could be five minutes. It could have just breathing,
putting your hand on your heart and saying, what is

(26:00):
my intention for the day, so that you start off
in a way that's about what you want versus the
world coming at you. You making nurturing, supportive choices for
yourself makes such a difference.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, before we go to break, I'll share the other
thing that I noticed energetically, because you know a lot
of women that follow me and listen, and I'm sure
you too are sensitive, impaths intuitive. When I used to
jump out of you know, scroll and all that and
bring that other energy in, I almost felt like I

(26:32):
was not grounded throughout my day. And when I started
this revised practice of starting my day with intentional listening
and dropping into my heart, I'm going to tell you
telling my day flows better. I'm more intentional. I'm more
present in my life because I'm startying in that grounded, centered,

(26:52):
sacred energy and it's made a difference in my life,
my relationships, and my business. And tell we're going to
jump to a break and we come back. We're going
to continue this conversation. My friends, you're listening to inspired
conversations with me as Kelly Grimes. Please visit her at
Cultivatingpeaceanjoy dot com. Learn more about her book and her course,

(27:16):
The Out of Self Nurturing, and get all the details
at her website and we'll be back in a moment,
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You're listening to inspired conversations. I Me your host Linda
Joy and with Me is the author of the international
bestsell of the Art of Self Nurturing Kelly Grimes. So, Kelly,
I was sharing the energetic difference right before the last
break of since I incorporated, as you've shared that starting
with something small, and for me it's that guided meditation.

(29:50):
It shifted energy of how I navigate my life instead
of in that chaotic energy. I got a scroll, I
got to go jump on my in. It's been life changing.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
It has definitely changed my life as well. And I
think those practices, once you find practices that really support you,
you can see the benefits of it, and then you
can find other places to add those practices in. So
I have a beautiful morning practice. Then I decided, well,
I'd like an evening practice too. I'd like a way

(30:26):
of really acknowledging what I've been able to do during
the day and give myself credit and celebration for things
to ground and gratitude. And then I listened to a
guided meditation at night before I go to sleep as well,
and I feel like it bookends things really, really beautifully,

(30:47):
and so you know it could be then it could
be for some people having some transition between the time
they work and go and be with family and having
some intentional transition time of just tuning in and seeing
how they feel what they need. And one of the
questions I love to ask is what would be the

(31:08):
most nurturing thing I can do with this moment. Sometimes
that nurturing thing might be spend time with my family. Right,
So I want to highlight that self nurturing does not
have to be a solo act. It can be in community.
For sure. There's lots of things that we do in

(31:29):
community that are so deeply nurturing and connecting and so
but tuning in then you know, if I have worked
all day and been with people and everything, maybe before
I go to be with my family, it's that I'm
going to go on a walk for ten minutes by myself.
I don't have small children, So if you have small children,

(31:50):
life is you know, everybody has to adjust to what
that is. But even like everybody going on a walk
for ten minutes, just getting out and being able to
move your bodies things. But I think it's really like
being creative and tuning in and finding ways that you
can plug different things in. You could even do an

(32:11):
assessment of what you're already doing. What are things you're
already doing that you feel are nurturing, are joyful, help
you feel grounded and connected, because I think it's really
important what you were saying, Linda about starting out the
day in a grounded way. Sometimes we need that throughout
the day, right if you're going to have a difficult
conversation with someone, if you have a lot of demands

(32:31):
around something, you know, having a practice of having a
mindful pause where you're just paying attention, you know, to
yourself with curiosity and compassion and non judgment and just
taking a moment to breathe, tune in, and then you know,
proceed to whatever you're doing. I think we can start

(32:52):
to have practices that are so woven into our day
that it's just how we engage with ourselves and our lives.
That can be super inspiring and they don't have to
take long. But it's the practice of it that tells you,
tells yourself that you are important, that you matter, that

(33:15):
you are a priority in your own life, and my goodness, Linda,
the ripples of that are very extensive. When you really
send yourself that message in an ongoing way.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, I know the difference it's made in my life.
And I love what you said earlier to about the
morning ritual. And I've created a transition ritual because I
had a tendency for a long time. It's like, especially
when you have a home office, is the work end
and then the transition into the end of the day.
And sometimes mine would get real money. I'd bring the

(33:49):
computer downstairs and say and continue. Now I have a ritual.
I know what time I'm depending on my schedule, what
time I want to end each day, usually two or
three of clock. But I have a ritual at my desk.
I close the computer, I organize it for moaning, and
I put my crystal on top. It's like I energetically

(34:09):
am closing it. And I'm going to tell you, since
I started doing that, when I transition to feelily time,
I actually feel like that energy is closed and now
I'm in the family or loving energy. I can't explain it,
but just having that one little ritual of the way
I close the computer, clear the desk and put a
crystal on top of the computer. That's my transition, that's

(34:33):
my self nurturing transition. So I can close the energy.
It's been amazing for me. And of course you know
I love evening rituals as much as you do, and
it changes all the time depending Sometimes it's a gratitude practice.
So one of the things that I want to ask you,
because you have so many juicy self nurturing practices and

(34:56):
you've shared some here, what are some of your favorites,
like yo that you go, oh, this is this is
the one.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Well after I get up after that my beautiful morning
practice and have make a cup of coffee. My husband
and I play a game every morning at breakfast. Now
he makes board games for a living, so it's an
important part of our life. But it is definitely a
self nurturing ritual and so joyful and fun, and he

(35:29):
travels a lot for his work, so when he's not around,
I often inviting my other family to play games and
other things with me, because there's something about starting the
day just to not create a flow of a game
that's super joyful.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I love.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I love that. I'm also really blessed to have grandchildren
and so the joy of and I want to go
back just for a moment what you were saying about
like closing the energy of work from your home office
before you go into something else. I love that, Linda.
That is that is so inspiring because oftentimes I'll leave

(36:04):
my office and there are my granddaughters and so one
of our rituals is to jump up and down when
we see each other, like yang, We're so excited. And
we started when they were really little. They're like three
and two, and there's a newborn right now, but it
is there is something about that joyful, like child energy

(36:27):
of just like being excited to see other people in
that way that is a really wonderful And certainly you
can do that with anyone, right you can whoever you see,
like greeting them with a hug or some sort of
way to really acknowledge other people's presence and your own
and just like being happy to be alive kind of thing.
I find that to be just so heart opening and

(36:50):
so rejuvenating. And that's really what I think of when
I think of self nurturing. That there is because we
all put so much energy out in the world, finding
ways to rejuvenate our energy, finding ways to fill back up. Now,
we know some people feel naturally filled back up when

(37:10):
they're alone. Some people when they're in community, So you
have to really listen to what that is for you.
It might not be jumping up and down right for you.
It might be something else, but it's really listening and
going what really lights me up? What do I feel
so rejuvenated by? For me, it's always being in nature.
I'm really blessed to live close to the ocean, and

(37:32):
so taking a walk at the beach is a really
powerful self nurturing practice, particularly if it's around sunset or sunrise,
something there when I'm really appreciating the propround beauty of nature.
I also love gardening. I think gardening anytime that I'm
connected with the natural cycles of the earth and I

(37:54):
see birds, and I see you know, the way that
the shadow is with the the way that the temperature is.
All of that, for me is really really nurturing, and
there's ways that you can plug little bits of that
in to your life. That doesn't have to be I'm gonna,
you know, go outside for you know, and take a
walk for half an hour. It could be I'm going

(38:15):
to go sit out in the sun, or if you're
in colder areas, like I'm going to sit near the
window and feel feel the sun on my cheek. It's
it's finding little moments of respid and rejuvenation and relaxation
and continuing to feed ourselves with those things.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
I love it, and nature grounds and soothes me too.
And as I shared about shutting the computer down, one
of the things I've picked up in the last probably
eight months is sometimes, because you know, what I do
for a living, so sometimes I can have thirteen calls
in a day for spiritual mindset coaching, and I'm holding space,

(38:57):
so then I need to fill right, keep myself filled.
I do the ritual, I close the computer, and then
even if it's a walk just around my house. I
live on the water in the middle of the woods,
even if I walk around my house twice, you know,
because sometimes it's all I have time to do, a knuck,
go for a walk. It's that cycle of going. I'm done,

(39:18):
I'm tapping in, I'm refilling my cup. Like you said,
even five minutes, it's all I need. It's this. It's
a sacred commitment to yourself, is how I'm seeing it now.
Thanks to you and all your messages and your beautiful book,
I get it now. It's it doesn't have to be

(39:42):
big things to feel loved, nurtured, and fulfilled. It's the
little moments.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Too, absolutely, and I think it's hard to get to
the big moments if we don't start to prioritize the
little moments, you know. I think being able to go
to a retreat and having time away for a weekend
or et cetera, that has always been like pinnacle in
my mind, like, oh, what an amazing thing. And I

(40:10):
think I've gone to like maybe a couple of retreats,
you know, in my life, that is not what's going
to fill me back up and allow me to express
my creativity and my light in the world. So it's
really finding how can you have a retreat within yourself.
One of the things that I love too is creativity,

(40:31):
and so I paint and I collage and I draw,
and I sing and I do other creative things like that.
And that's one for me that I've had to be
really committed to putting on my calendar because it takes
some time. So what I decided recently is okay, so

(40:55):
maybe I'm not going to get to paint as often
when I have a busy week, but I could easily
pull out a thing and like do collage or do
something else to be creative, so that I'm committing to
that thing which fills me up so much, Linda, I
love being creative, and so I think it's it's being
curious about how you can invite in those things and

(41:17):
maybe even explore. You know, part of self nurturing is
developing your own growth and potential. And sometimes we don't
even know, you know, maybe somebody wants to learn a
new language, or they want to, you know, learn to
play an instrument, or do something else that they don't
even know yet that it's something that would light them up.

(41:39):
So I think it's it's being curious about opportunities to
do things as well. And we're so lucky because there's
YouTube and there's lots of ways that people can, you know,
kind of learn how to things that we have access to.
But maybe a nurturing thing would be to go to
a botanic garden in your community for an hour, or
go to a museum, or see a play, or you know,

(42:03):
go listen to live music. Like there's so many different
ways to to find what lights you up and and
really doing that reflective piece after like, oh my gosh,
I really love whatever it is. Right live music. That's
one of the things in my love and two things.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
You said is curiosity and creativity, which I think are
so key. We're going to take our final break, Kelly.
We're going to come back and then want to talk
more about you know, being curious, being open, because I
think that is a key to also a lighthearted spirit. So,
my friends, we'll be back in a moment. You're listening
to inspired conversations. Kelly Grimes is here with me, and

(42:46):
you can learn more about her book and her digital course,
The Out of Self Nurturing at cultivatingpeaceanjoy dot com, and
of course all her information is also in the show notes.
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Welcome back. You're listening to inspire conversations. I'm here with
Killy Grimes And in our last segment, I want to
talk a little more about the curiosity because I love
that you said that, like be curious, and then you
shared something too, So it's kind of a twofold. In
our last segment about creativity, it comes up on a

(45:36):
lot of conversations with overwhelmed and over committed woman. They're like,
I don't have time to play. Whether that plane is knitting, collage, painting,
whatever it is for them, it's almost like they stopped
letting there in a child out to play. So the
curiosity aspect is having that conversation with you in a
child right your inner self. So could you speak a

(45:58):
little more on that.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, I love that you picked up on that. I
think curiosity is one of my favorite intentions to hold
in the world. And I find that when we are
overwhelmed and exhausted and starting to feel burned out and resentful,
we tend to be in a scarcity mindset, right. We're

(46:20):
just we've given all we can, super understandable, and curiosity
tends to be an anecdote to that kind of feeling
contracted and shut down, that place that we can get
to when we're feeling overwhelmed and there's a there's a
middle step that needs to happen for that. Oftentimes we're

(46:42):
in that overwhelmed state, we're really in the fight flight
freeze part. We're at that part of our brain, the
amigdala where we don't have very many choices, and creativity
and compassion and planning and all those other things actually
reside in our prefrontal court. And so doing things to
really nurture and nourish our nervous system is so incredibly

(47:07):
important to being able to be in a space where
we can be more curious and we can be more creative,
and more connected. I often talk about my three c's.
It's being curious, compassionate, and connected. When we're there, we
tend to have a feeling that all is well in
the world, and that means we're not in that place

(47:27):
of fear and scarcity. We're into a place of possibility
and abundance. And we can have self nurturing practices like
you and I have shared that can help ground us,
so that you're grounding your nervous system and you have
more access to the other parts of yourself. Just inviting
in curiosity and really saying like I wonder, So starting

(47:50):
to build a practice of curiosity is like I wonder,
you know, I wonder why that didn't go the way
I wanted it to. I wonder why I, you know,
overscheduled myself today. It really goes back to the self
awareness piece that curiosity shuts down judgment, and when we're

(48:10):
overwhelmed and exhausted, we tend to be really judge of
ourselves and maybe judge of others too. Right, we're just
we've had it kind of thing, and so moving into
curiosity towards ourselves can really start to bring in more
of that compassion, can start to bring in more of possibilities,

(48:31):
like we only know a small amount quite frankly, about anything,
but there's so much more to know. So you can
feel if you think about something that you're curious about,
you can feel an expansiveness. You can feel an open
heartedness that comes from that, a sense of you know,

(48:52):
you said childlike wonder, you know, just acknowledging like, oh
my gosh, what else is here? That's a very open
place to be and it's very exciting to me. It's
it's another part of the practice of self nurturing is
to nurture our curiosity, so we can say I wonder
so instead of you know, even when something happens that

(49:17):
you know, may have hurt our feelings or something, if
we can bring curiosity into it, like I wonder, I
wonder what the you know, I wonder why that happened,
or I wonder why I'm feeling this way about it,
we can bring more compassion and self and nurture that
part of ourselves and then respond in a more nurturing
way for ourselves. Maybe it's a boundary, maybe it's you know,

(49:38):
choosing something different, saying no next time, but curiosity it's
essential I think to living and really thriving, I think
it is, and to create more connection in the world.
When we're judgmental, we get shut down, we lose our
compassion for each other, we lose our curiosity about differences

(50:00):
and other things, and then we don't feel connected.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
And you know, this.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Whole heal and transform the world is about being connected
with other people, being connected with ourselves first, and then
taking that out and being connected with others with compassion
and curiosity. So I love that you raised curiosity, and
then curiosity just like unfolds into the possibility of creativity
because when we're curious, we see things from a different perspective.

(50:24):
You know, instead of thinking, oh that, you know that's
not going to go right, I'm not even going to
take a risk to do that, we might say, oh,
I wonder how that could go smoothly, Like I wonder
what that could look like. And it's a more empowered
place I believe to be in.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It truly is. And we still have just a few
minutes left. I want to talk to about the other
thing they touched on, creativity And for me this is
my personal belief. Well, we're in that creative energy, we're
connected with our source of love. There is something about
just releasing and stepping into the creative flow that what
connection Cannet to all that is we are the act

(51:03):
of creation. We are part of creation. So for me,
creating is so important. I may do it through my
business by birthing beautiful brands and messages that serve, but
I love to paint. I love doing man dollars. For years,
I had not given myself the space to be creative.
It was like, I'm too busy for that. That's like
a luxury thing. And I'm like, now I have a

(51:27):
little art project right on the side of my desk,
so when I have a break in my schedule, I
can go over there for five minutes. That has been
key to my healing and nurturing myself. So so glad
that we got to a chance to talk about curiosity
and how important it is as well as creativity. We
have two minutes left, Kelly, is they're a message that

(51:48):
you want to give to a woman right now who
may not be nurturing herself.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I think the most important message really in the message
of my business is to that woman, is that you matter,
that you have value, that you are important. Just being you,
and that part of the gift of you expressing the
truth of you are your authenticity, your love, your joy,

(52:17):
your creativity, your curiosity, is really nurturing a beautiful relationship
with your own self, giving yourself that nurturing that you
so easily, you know, flow out to others in the world,
starting that with yourself and noticing what a remarkable difference
it makes, and that it can be small, and that

(52:41):
you can start with five minutes, and that bringing a
sense of compassion and love for yourself will ultimately heal
and transform the world, like each of us has the
power to do that. Lind I think that's what I
love so much, and I'm so grateful that you said
talked about source that love energy. To me, that is everything.

(53:03):
And when you know that you can feed that love
to yourself, that you can show yourself that you matter
and that you're important, and that that will make the
world a better place, just like you want the people
that you've loved to feel cared about and seen and
heard and celebrated, Like there's nothing that we can't do

(53:23):
as human beings together, So really inviting all of us
to transform out of that old paradigm, you know, of
nurturing ourself as selfish into this sense of possibility when
we tend and befriend ourselves, that we can connect and
be curious and be compassionate and really create our own lives,

(53:46):
our own best lives and the way we want and
the world in a way that we feel really good
about living in.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Want to feel the love in your message, my friend,
and thank you Kelly for joining me today, for sharing
your message, and I want to be sure I mention
your website one more time for all the women who
want to visit. Go to cultivatingpeaceanjoy dot com grab a
copy of Kelly's book, The Out of Self Nurturing, a

(54:15):
field guide to living with more peace, joy and meaning.
And while you're there, just look for the button that
says course at the top of the website and learn
more about the self paced digital program The Out of
Self Nurturing. Kelly. Thank you again, my friend. Thank you
so much, Linda. Until next time, my friends, choose love,

(54:40):
Choose joy, Choose happiness.

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