The Power of Spirit with Psychic Medium Karen Docherty

Air Date - 11 June 2025

Join Inspired Living Host Marc Lainhart – The Intuitive Prospector™ this “Wisdom Wednesday” as we welcome to the show for the first time, international psychic-medium teacher and mentor, Ms. Karen Docherty. “The loss of a loved one brings questions, heartache, and a longing for connection. But love doesn’t end when life does — it only changes form. Through the gift of Spirit, I am blessed to bring you messages of comfort, healing, and hope, reminding you that those you love still walk beside you, guiding and supporting you from the other side. When you hear their words, you begin to live with peace, knowing that love truly never dies.”

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About the Guest

Since the discovery of her abilities, Karen has worked tirelessly to bring the word of Spirit to those who need it most. From the UK to the USA, from Asia to Australia, clients from all over the world meet with Karen to receive readings, enrol in mentorships and share a space for discussions on the power of Spirit. A woman with spirit and a breath of fresh air, Karen offers a contemporary approach to psychic work and mediumship based on traditional principles. Filled with love and compassion, she stands as one of the most reputable and skilled mediums in modern times. Karen offers 1-2-1 sessions as well as mentorship. She also gives public demonstrations of mediumship.

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Episode Transcript

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So let's go prospecting together, shall we. So I'm welcome

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into the show for the first time Karen Desherty. She's
coming in from Scotland, all the way across the Pond,
and I want to give you just a little bit
of a background and her journey. Says she discovered her abilities.
Karen has worked tiresly to bring the Word of Spirit
to those who need it most, from the UK to
the USA, from as Australia.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Clients from all.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The world meet with Karen to receive readings and role
in mentorships and share a space for discussions on the
power of Spirit.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
And that's today's episode. We're going to be talking.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
About not just the power of spirit, but we're going
to be talking about the healing of spirit, the intelligence
of spirit, the support and love of spirit.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
A will with spirit, and a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Karen offers a contrary approach to psychic work and mediumship,
based on traditional principles, filled with love and compassion. She
stands as one of the most repeatile and skilled mediums
in modern times, and Karen offers one to one sessions
as well as mentorship, and she also gives public demonstrations
of mediumship.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
If you want to learn more about.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
The journey, you can get all of the content on
our social media pages, but you can also go to
her main website, which is Karen do shirty dot com
and that's spelled d O h e r t y
dot com.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Karen, welcome to Inspired Living.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
It's nice to be here.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Thank you too much.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, so tell us a little bit about where you're
from and how you got in the mediumship.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yes, so I am from Scotland.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
As you probably can tell, my mediumship journey really began
when I was a young child. I would say maybe
around the age of two or three, but really, you know,
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Know about mediumship. I didn't call it mediumship.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Until I was maybe in my late teens. So for
all of my childhood and into my young adult life,
it was more about just experiencing things and knowing that
it was spirit, knowing that it was from the other
places I used to call it, but never realizing that
I was a medium until later.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Right, and I want to read a little bit of
quote that we had posted on our page, and this
is a quote from you, Karen, It says quote the
loss of a loved one brings questions, heartache, and a
longing for connection. But love doesn't end when life does,
it only changes form. And through the gift of spirit,
I'm blessed to bring you messages of comfort, heal and

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in hope, reminding you that those you love still walk
beside you, guiding and supporting you from the other side.
When you hear their words, you begin to live with peace,
knowing that love truly never dies or is really, like
to say in the mediumship community, life after life, not
life after death, but life after life because life.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Does continue on.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
So for the listeners out there, Karen, give us a
little bit of background of how someone comes into mediumship,
because I've had many guests on the show, and everybody
comes into mediumship in their own unique.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Way and in their own timing.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Tell the inspired listeners a little bit about your journey
of how you became even aware of this concept called mediumship.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you mentioned the timing
because I often feel it is to do with the
timing more than anything else. You know, there's I think
every person that works with their mediumship, maybe they've gone
through things in life first before they've kind.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Of a rise at their mediumship. And that's certainly what
happens to me.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Even though I could see spirits from when I was younger,
and I used to speak to my grandmother about it,
and she used to tell me the dead don't harm you.
You know, she was quite normalized that she knew it
was natural. Even though I had that kind of support,
I didn't know what it was. I just knew that
I felt a little bit different, and I would pick

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things up for people and didn't know where it was
coming from. So throughout my childhood, like saying, intimate early teens,
that's really what it was all about. And then later
in life when my children were small, I really it
became overwhelming, the voices, the messages, the spirit world, you know,
just feeling them all the time. It's so much so

(07:43):
that I went and spoke to a medium about it,
and then it just kind of started from there.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So do you think so the connection of the child
and increased after you had children? I know, I know
you said you had there such a small child, but
did the connection because you brought fourth life right? And
I'm just wondering if by bringing forth children. If that
enhanced your ability of your mediumship.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
I think that I'd always had the channeling, I'd always
had the communication. But I think by that time, I
think it was more ready to accept it or ready to.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Look at it.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I think it was more about me maturing and kind
of looking at that situation as a card rather than
when I was younger and life was busy and things
were going on, and you know, I think it was
just about time and things.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
When you say the word acceptance, I think that's a
big part of the journey, is awareness and acceptance. And
now for the listening audience, you said you see the
spirit world, So let's talk about objectively versus subjectively, and
actually seeing the spirit person in our mind versus seeing
them with the eyes.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Can you talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, And I think this is a really interesting point
because as mediums, I'm not sure about yourself, but I
know that we say things like, oh I can see this,
and I can see that, and most of the times
actually me anyway, it is within my mind's eye. Is
that I see that it within what I see is
my spirit eyes or my spirit ears. But that doesn't

(09:13):
mean it doesn't happen out with that. Sometimes physically I
will see them, but more often than not, it's of them,
you know. It's in the mind, that's in the mind's eize.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, And I bring that up because when I started
this journey, oh my gosh, two decades ago, I didn't
actually see the spirit world. I didn't see my brothers,
those that have gone on before me. I didn't see
them physically with the physical eye. And over time and
through mentorship and education, I realize that there are some
mediums out there that ken I've got a few students
in my group that actually can objectively see the spirit

(09:45):
person with the human eye. But for our listeners out there,
we're just kind of laying this down in layman terms.
When a medium says that they see the spirit person,
those are the two concepts objectively versus subjectively, And what
Karen is saying is subjectively is in the mind the
third eye chakra, the clayers that are associated with mediumship.
And there's a lot of different players that we'll get

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to here in just a little bit a little bit
later in the show, but that clear sentience that clairvoyant
seeing within the mind's eye is a big part of mediumship,
which we call mental mediumship.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
And I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I can honestly say, out of all the readings I've done,
I've only ever seen the objective spirit connection maybe ten times.
I could count probably less on my two hands that
I've actually seen them. And when I see them with
the physical eye, it's such a beautiful moment because even
your human brain goes, am I seeing what I'm seeing?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
It shows you the power of the ego. But subjectively,
when it's coming through my mind's eye, I'm like, oh, okay,
I just accept it, so see it as believing. But
for the listeners out there, I just want them to
be aware of when mediums say that I see that
there are a few different ways, and each medium is
unique and each medium is different. But where in this journey,
after acceptance and awareness, which is a great important part

(10:54):
of the journey, stuff that I had to come to
my own awareness and my own acceptance of this, how
were you able to learn to channel the communications and
the voice of spirit.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, I think the acceptance part is correct.
That is a big part of it. And I think
for me it was more about accepting that I was
blessed enough to do something like this, Like I remember
feeling like I'm not a medium like me. I mean,
I'd always followed mediumship, you know, I'd always watch mediums, listened,
it was always very spiritual. But for me to actually

(11:30):
be able to do this, I couldn't believe that I
was blessed enough to do this. So I think that
was a big part of it for me, and knew
moving forward through my development, then I started to, you know,
obviously do the meditations and sit for spirit and drinking
lots of knowledge about the spirit world because I remember
feeling like if I if I'm going to do this,

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then I have to make sure I am doing what
I say I'm doing, because that was a big part
of it for me as well. It's a huge responsibility
really when you're working in medium and the trust I
think for knowing what you're doing does have to develop.
Like it's not something that I feel.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Comes overnight or straightaway.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I think is about persevering with that and getting to
know your own mediumship and then they're asked that I
feel that that's when the trust comes in and your
mediumship becomes a little bit stronger.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
That's from a personal point of view.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, I know, and I love that, and I love
that you're sharing that with feliciting audience because trust is
a big important part of this awareness acceptance. Those are
three pillars that I actually teach out myself, because I'll
be honest with you, Karen. When I started to come
into this awareness of mediumship, I didn't really know much
about it, and I had seen a few TV shows,
But when I started using the words psychic and medium

(12:44):
I had my own vision.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Of what I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know, television commercial, you know, call and predict your future.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
It's none of that.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's not fortune telling, it's not predicting future. And you know,
over where you're at Scotland, I think that there's more
of a foundation for spiritualism in psychic and medium and healing,
you know, in Scotland in the UK, compared to you
here in the United States. And so I love that
you moved into that trust factor to trust but also

(13:13):
develop because it does take time, you know, I tell
my students all the time, I've been working on this
for twenty years and I feel like I'm just learning
how to crawl yet alone, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Learn to walk, right, We learned to crawl before we walk.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
And so you know, for those of you that are
out there listening to today's show, give yourself patience, give
yourself that trust, awareness and acceptance if you're having communication,
because it is a higher form of communication, and you
start thinking, well, how do I talk to somebody that
no longer has a voice court or a vibration off
a vocal court. And that's where you start to work
with your development, which is so very important is to

(13:47):
stay dedicated to your own development. So how long have
you been working on I know that you're a teacher
now and you do private consultations and mentorship, but how
long did you get mentored before you felt comfortable stepping
out into the public to to talk about this publicly
and openly.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I really sat what we call in Scotland is a
home circle. It's really traditional in Scotland and I know
some other parts of the world aren't the same. So
when you sit in this home circle, that's when you
start to develop your mediumship with a small group of people.
And when I entered into my first home circle, it
was meant to be like for three years, it was
a set thing.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Our teacher was very old school.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
She just said it's a three year thing, you have
to commit to it, and that was fine, so I
expected to be there for that amount of time. But
actually what happened was mine was it seemed to move
very quickly towards platform mediumship demonstrating, and I felt like
that's where my strength was within my mediumship, so I
started to develop that side of things as well. So

(14:49):
I would say I probably was out working within maybe
a year eighteen months, but that wasn't I wasn't truly confident,
you know. I was kind of and my feet. I
was going to sledgeling evenings and just learning that macraft really.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
As I went along.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
But even so, even all these years released her. And
I think you'll agree with this. Whose development keeps going,
it's not something that stops. She is continually trying to
understand your mediumship, and as your mediumship moves, you have
to move.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
With it, and you do have to stay very dedicated.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
So although I was maybe eight months and I was
out working for me, that felt very quick, but my
development continued thereafter.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I think I think you make a very valid
point in the fact, when I started doing this for
your listeners out there, platform means being up on a
stage and connecting to an audience versus just a one
on one reading more of a private sitting. The platform
that Karen's talking about is being out of the public
and you can have you know, anywhere from fifty to
I don't know, two hundred people.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
It just depends on the venue.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
But the process and we stand on shoulders of great
teachers and mentors that have helped us to have this
discussion in today's modern age of modern mediumship. And I
remember my mentor when I started down this path. She said,
it's not a straight and narrowpath. It's a long and
windy road, and it's lifelong learning. So you're always as
long as you stay dedicated, you're always going to learn

(16:15):
something from the spirit world.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
But you're also going to heal.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And I don't see a lot of that in the
United States about the healing aspect of mediumship, which is
a big part of what we do as mediums. And
I just said, that's always stuck with me because she said,
at some point, Mark, you're going to have a responsibility
of giving these reading and speakings for others. But also
when I make that journey to the other side, I'm
also going to be held responsible for the conversations of
the people that I'm representing and speaking on their behalf,

(16:40):
and so that's always stuck with me as a responsibility
to be the best medium I can. And I'm sure
you're caring that you would agree with that, because we
are speaking on the behalf of people that no longer
have a voice, but are still very much alive and
find different ways to communicate with us. But let's talk
about the healing aspect of it, because I believe that
is a big part. That's how I went in the

(17:01):
mediumship was more about my own healing versus given readings
to people.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Tell me a little bit about the healing.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Journey for you, Yeah, I completely agree with you, Mark,
you know everything you just said. I think it's a
huge part of it is the healing. It's the main
part of it really, because even if you think about
the evidential mediumship, which is what you're delivering, that evidence
is then to bring healing because you're letting someone know
the loved one is still there and you're bringing that forward.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
And for me, the healing takes place on both sides.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
So when I deliver communication or speak to someone about this,
the healing for the spirit world takes place because they
still have they still have that need to communicate with us,
so they in turn get the healings from that. But
the person here, the client here, also will always benefit
from that healing. And I think if people recognize.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
That that's what mediumship is for and what it should
be for.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Instead of just the entertainment thing that seems to have,
you know, seems to be the massive thing. It's about entertainment,
and that's something I could never see. I've never said
mediumships about entertainment.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
It just doesn't sit.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well for me because, like you said, you know, if
you've got a mother in the spirit side coming forward.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
To communicate, it's not about entertainment. It's much much more
than that. So I think for the healings for me.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
In my mediumship is the most vital part, and that's
the part that I concentrate on the most when I'm working.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, and I love that.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think that they're you know, for the inspired listeners
out there, if you could visually envision a triangle and
three sides of the triangle.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
One triangle.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
One part of that triangle is the spirit world that
knows that step forward to the other side of the triangle,
which is the medium, and then of course that bottom
part of the triangle is your sitter, and so they're that.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Triangle, and that triangle comes together. The information that can.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Flow brings healing for all three aspects, not just the
spirit person coming forward and not just for the sitter,
but the medium itself can be healed by some of
the messages or some the coincidences or synchronouses that we
often you know, come across with doing this work, which
is it's not an easy path for you know, our
listeners out there, But if you stay with it and

(19:11):
you trust the process, and you get some good teachers
like Karen and mentorship, you'll start to understand that there
is a world within a world, and that the spirit
world and those that reside there are not dead. They're
very much alive, and they're only ever a thought away.
And so mediumship brings a lot of healing to our
world but also to the spirit world and those that
seek us out.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
So as far as.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Your journey, you said that you started to become aware
of this when you were much younger, and I want
to talk about that for the listeners out there, because
I did not I know that those that have the
natural abilities, that are born with these abilities, whether it's
the psychic and or the mediumship, which there is a
big difference be between the two that we'll talk about.
But I didn't come to this awareness only until actually

(19:56):
trauma and tragedy with the loss of several family members,
you know, murder, brain cancer, multiple scrosses. Somehow that changed
my brain to start having an open reception to receive
this content, these messages.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
So for you, how far back can you remember that
you had this connection.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Were you naturally born with us from the young age
or did you start to become aware of it as.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
You got older.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Well, the youngest age I remember it is three years old,
and I remember I was on a bus with my
mum at the time, and we were passing this graveyard
cemetery and I looked out the window and I said
to my mum, there's lots and lots of people there,
They're all walking around, and she just kind of looks
at me blankly, and then I said, and then I

(20:41):
said to her, I think I might be buried in there.
And I remember the thought and I remember saying it.
But then as I grew older, even five six, rang
up to ten twelve. Even though I was receiving things
like that or feeling things like that, it was natural.
It felt natural to me, So I just thought everyone

(21:01):
had those thoughts.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
So whether it like it stood out to.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Me or I was feeling, you know, it's only me
that gets this, I just thought, oh, okay, you know,
I just kind of took it in the stride. It
wasn't until later in my teenage years that I realized
that people aren't getting these messages and you are receiving something.
But like I say, even when I eventually sat down
to look at it, I still could not believe that
I was a medium. I actually couldn't call myself the

(21:27):
medium for about a year after I started my development
because I just thought it was too much of a responsibility.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I just felt like that that can't I can't.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
But you know, it just can't be me. I can't
be that blessed.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
And really I still feel the same.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
You know, I take it very very seriously, and everything
that you're saying, and the way that you've been taught
or the way that you've came across it and developed
as well, just things to my heart because I feel exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
The same.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, and you know, and it's important to having these conversations.
So for the inspired listeners out there, like you said,
there's two ways to see the spirit world objectively with
the human eye and subjectively with the mind and communicate
through the mind, which we call mental mediumship. But also
some of you that are out there are born with
this gift, and sometimes you don't want to step into
your gifts, which is fine because with stepping into this gift,

(22:16):
like Karen just described, there comes a lot of opinions,
a lot of judgment, a lot of how people can
see you in the world. And then for some of you,
you may come to the spiritual path of mediumship or
psychic based on your own life experiences like I did.
I was about twenty seven when everything started changing for me.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
But what I did Karen's I started to explore. I
started to prospect.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
That's where the intuitive prospector's name was born out, because
I believe everybody has intuition, it's just up to us
what we want to prospect for. And so I actually
started to explore is there something real to this? Is
there a science that supports it? And for you inspired
listeners out there, I'll always remind you just because you
don't see it with the physical eye.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Does not mean that it's not there.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
And science over the years has demonstrated that whether it's
through the power of wind, gravity, the air we breathe,
the Wi Fi signal that you're broadcasting on your computer,
it's something else, the telescope, the microscope. There's all sorts
of world within worlds that we can't see with the
physical eye or hear with the human ear. So don't
discount a young child if they're having a story or

(23:19):
they're describing something, because young children, usually under the age
of seven, don't have those filters that have been placed
on education or society, and they actually have a genuine
intuition that they may be seeing people at the graveyards
walking around, So don't discount that. It'd be my recommendation
for the young children under the age of seven, because

(23:39):
it is some of you are born with this gift,
and some of you, like myself, come to this gift,
and I say it's a gift through your own experiences
or what I like to call soul adventures. So, Karen,
one of the things that I want to talk about,
We're going to go to a break here in just
a few minutes. But I want to talk about the
difference between psychic mediumship because many times I find that

(24:02):
people want to put put those two concepts together, and
they're quite different based.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
On the development of between the two.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Do you mind just speaking a little bit the difference
between the psychic and the mediumship and why that's important
to call that out as being different.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, of course, And again, you know, it is a
term that's used quite loosely. You know that people that
are going to see mediums will call them psychics and
vice versa. But you know, every psychic basically is when
someone can link in with.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
The person in front of them.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
So if a client came to see me and I
was working psychically, I would be linking in with them
their soul, their spirit, everything that's connected to them, every
breed that's connected to them, and I could read for
them from that their own life situations and paths and
such like. Then mediumship is about connecting with those that
have crossed over, so those that are no longer in

(24:56):
the physical world. That's where mediumship comes in. So the
art two different concepts. Now, every medium is psychic too, right,
So that's where you get the psychic medium. But not
every psychic is mediumistic. Because sometimes you'll get a great
psychic who can tune into everything around them in this
world and every person, but they can't connect with the

(25:19):
spirit world. So realize the difference of the two.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, and just say that one more time, because I
agree with you. This took me.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I grappled with this concept for a few years when
I first started my development because I've always believed in
the power and the intelligence the spirit world to if
we're open to it, to develop us to become psychic
and mediums.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
But say that one adage.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
One more time, just for the listening on it, because
I think it's very important that you know, all mediums
are psychics, but not all psychics are mediums.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Yeah, and that you know, And you're right, that took
me time to get my head around that as well.
But the thing is, if you can think about it
like this, we all come here from the spirit side,
and then we're born into the physical. We live life
here there, we go home, and every one of us
is psychic. We all have a psychic ability.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Some people call it.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Intuition, hunches, you know, six things. We all have a
different words for it. But it's basically have our psychic
ability nice way some people will develop that other people
would but the mediumship side, I feel is a completely
different development.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, and the word psychic is psychosis in Greek, which.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Means of the soul. It means of the mind. And
so I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Everybody that incarnates into this physical form through energy and
vibration and matter, you can choose to tune into those abilities.
But again just for the listening audience, there is a
big difference on development between the psychic and the mediumship.
So really think about where you want to go and
have that agreement with the spare world because they will
guide you and they will support you. So we're going

(26:50):
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going to be back here in just a few minutes.
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We have our guest today for the first time, international
psychic medium teacher and mentor, Miss Karen Dosherty, and you
can visit her website at Karendoorsherty dot com.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Karen, is there any.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Other websites that we need to mention that if the
Inspired listeners want to get a hold of you, I
know that you're on Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
No, that's that's the main website.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
That's that's the one to go where everything is there.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, Yeah, I always like to say i'd same thing
for you know, my website. I always just tell people
that's the one stop shop and then you can get
to wherever you want to go, whether it's booking, reading,
or teaching or events or you know, articles, It's just
kind of your one stop shop. So I want to
jump right back into this because this hour goes by
so very quickly. But I was when I was researching
for this show because I love talking about spirituality and

(30:57):
psychic and mediumship, and that was the case several years ago,
but now I love what I do and I actually
came across to quote a reference from Silver Birch, which
was a channel done by a great teacher spiritualist many
many years ago, and silver Birch says this, when you
see a reflection in the mirror, you're not looking at

(31:19):
the individual, but merely the semblance. The physical is but
the garment man wears, and women the means by which
he or she expresses himself or herself. In the world
of matter, your body is not you. You are an internal spirit.
And I had to think about that for many years, Karen,

(31:40):
because I was raised in a religious philosophy that if
you weren't good enough, you went to the bad place,
the fiery place, and if you were good enough, then
you can get up into the pearly gates of heaven.
But I can tell you, over the years of development
and understanding and education, I've realized that heaven isn't a
lit cation. Heaven's a vibration, and it's you know, if

(32:03):
you think about it metaphysically, you can't go up or
down on a round planet. And so when you start
to see the world is not just a physical world,
but a world filled with different vibrations, you realize that
the spirit world is not that far away from us.
It's all about how we tune or how we have
that quickening to tune into those frequencies.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Very much similar like a radio station, right there's I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
In Scotland you have several radio stations, but if you
want to find your favorite radio station, you.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Got to tune in.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You got to manually turn the knob or turn the
dial and get that frequency. Over my understanding and education
of doing this, it really is about tuning into that frequency,
and that comes from spiritual development.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So what's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, you know, I love Silver Birch. I'd books and
listen to all of the there's a lot of audio
actually on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah, you know, the writings and things.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
So I agree. You know, it's hard, I think for
people to understand what spirit is sometimes and where it is.
And like you say, we're taught traditionally like heaven's up
there and then the other places down there, and that's
all obviously to do with religion and things.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
But when you come past that and.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Actually start to try to understand it, the best way
that I can say is that when people talk about
being all one and all connected and it's just a
frequency or a vibrational energy, it's the best way to
kind of get.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Your head around if you like.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
And you know, when you are talking about different circumstances
where we go after the passes, there are different levels
in the spirit world as well. You know, I feel
that there is. I feel like we still evolve in
the spirit world. I feel like we still develop. We'll
continue that regardless of whether we're hearing the physical or there.
And so of course people can talk about different levels

(33:51):
and things, but ultimately we are all spirit and if
you can get to know your own higher self first,
then that I feel kind of opens the gate for
you to understand the best of it.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, and I love that, and you know, it's that's
something that's stuck with me for when I started to
move into mentorship, when I found a teacher that I
really resonated with and had and she had a long
history of you know, being a teacher and working with
the spirit world since a very young age.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
And she's now in the spirit world.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But she would always tell me that, you know, not
just with that lifelong learning, if you choose to go
down this path, it's lifelong learning to understand how everything works.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
But she always said this mantra.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's always stuck with me to this Daycaren once growth stops,
decay begins. And that is true not only for this world,
but I find it true that it's like you just said,
and the other side. Just because we pass over or
what we would call death and dying, people just assume,
you know. And again I was taught that we went
and sat up in a big cloud and played a
hart for the tourney.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
And I'm thinking, well, that's kind of boring, and I
don't know if I'd want to do that.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
So the hierarchy is always in place to continue to learn,
because once growth stops, decay begins.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
And when she said that to.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Me, that's always and I can hear her voice at
times from the other side, like keep going, keep learning,
keep helping, keep serving, and you know, it really is
a journey of lifelong learning. And so I just wanted
to share that with the listeners as well. And to
do I love I read a lot of silver Birch
and a lot of the pioneers from history past, because

(35:21):
I actually I actually started to learn about mediumship. I'm
actually I like to say that I'm actually a British trained,
accredited spiritual medium now because when I started hear in
the US, there's a lot of people that just hang
their shingles. One day they what they hear a voice
of spirit. Next day they're professional. And I just found
that there was really no credentialing or accrediting.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
For what we do.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And I found that to be a little bit disturbing
to the fact that you know, I said, if I'm
going to go down this path, and I'm sure you're
in the same boat, Kary, because we have a lot
of the same philosophies and understanding of the spirit world.
I said, if I'm going to do this and you
want me to do this, I want to be the
best at what I am doing to represent those that
are coming to me. And no different than a lawyer
passing the bar, no different than a doctor passing the

(36:06):
medical boards. It is the same thing with mediumship is
find those that have had the training, find those that
have been mentored and have had the life experiences. Because again,
Karen and I are talking today standing on the shoulders
of pioneers that have come before us in a world
that wasn't always accepting of this. I think we're it's
more accepting today. But imagine just even seventy years ago

(36:28):
with some of the teachers and some of the you
know a lot was done in privacy and in hidden circles,
and you know seance is done, you know, in the
privacy of someone's home.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Now it's a lot more like you said, entertainment. It's
out there. But I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't look at it as a form of entertainment.
And I love that you sat in a developmentster Guatt.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, go ahead, Soudy didn't mean to. I was just
going to add to that and see, you know, I
think that when you've spoken with people pioneers of the
past and the late great mediums and being mentored by
Navis Petilla was one for me and she's in the
spirit world now. And then I've done a lot of
training down at the Art of Finley College in London

(37:08):
and they're worldwide.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
They're known worldwide.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
For their mediumship and their studies of spiritualism, and I
think when you go through those channels, it's more about
getting that at meditation, not only for yourself but for
people that are going to be coming to you, so
that they can trust that you have kind of looked
at the whole subject and it's not just the entertainment.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Fact that it's not.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Just making money out of doing readings.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
It's the whole thing, the whole subject.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
So I completely agree with you, and I think we
are very similar in our backgrounds.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Well, I think that were similar because actually we share
the same mentors. Maybus Patillo is my mentor for several
years and it was actually her fault to get me
up on the platform because it's not anything I.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Ever wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
So both her and Janet no Havok or two of
the teachers that I studied at her for several years
to understand the concept, along with amazing teachers that are
still in the world today. But that makes sense that
we would have the same philosophy because we have the
same teacher and same mentor. And again, the Arthur Finley College,
I can't speak. I can't say enough as a spiritualist.

(38:19):
You know, it's a college north of London and Stanstead.
It's been around since nineteen sixty four when the estate
got turned over by the gentleman Arthur Finley so that spiritual,
psychic healing and mediumship could continue on.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
And I'm very grateful for.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
That because I have learned over the last decades several
concepts of this conversation we're having today.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
So for those of.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
You that are interested in the psychic journey and or
the mediumship journey or the healing journey, make sure to
check out the links and what we're talking about today,
because again, the journey of a thousand miles begins with
that single step. And I can tell you listeners, when
the student is ready, the teachers will appear.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
So now another question I have for you, Karen, is you.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Talk about when the other side starts to communicate with us.
Let's break this down into communication. Do you talk about like,
for example, I teach on signs, symbols, synergies and synchronicities
and for your journey how to love ones and from
your perspective and your education, how do we recognize these
signs or these synchronicities or the synergy which is the

(39:28):
energy that combines everybody. Everything is energy, right, or the
symbols that come along that helps us understand that there
isn't a communication process taking place, it's just are we
aware of it?

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
You know, I think a big thing about.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
This is recognizing the ceiling. First.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I mean I know that the talk about signs and
lots of people will get signs and then they'll question
them because as well as that, your mind will tell
you that it should imagination. You know, the mind doesn't quit.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
I understand what's happening at that point, and the mind
is very powerful, so.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
It's going to tell you that it's your imagination, or
you're making it up, or it didn't happen, or.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
It's a coincidence, all of the above.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
And I think so learning how to feel things can
help someone really understand the presence of the messages or
the communication, or even the signs. Because if you get
a sign from spirit, let's say, let's say there's you're
given numbers, or you receive a feather and you've not

(40:32):
noticed it, or it's just came out of nowhere, I
would always say, how do you feel about that? Like,
what's the feeling? Because the feeling comes from the soul
and the rest comes from the mind. So it's always
I don't know about you, Mark, but I always feel
like it's an ongoing battle between the two. And unless
you understand the feelings behind things, you know, it makes
it difficult, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
It really does.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And it's the ying and yang of spirits you out
of the mind versus the heart and what we feel.
And I love that you said that feeling because many
times people ask me, well, Mark, how do I know
it's the actual spirit person or the spirit world versus
my own imagination, And I usually tell them it's usually
based on something of a feeling and also based on time. Usually,
if you have time to think about it, the ego

(41:15):
mind will fill what it needs to fill, because it's a.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Power, like you said, Karen, of the ego.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
But if something just drops in, For example, you're driving
your car and all of a sudden a thought of
your mom drops dright in you don't.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Even have time to think about it.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
That is your intuition, That is the spirit world making
themselves aware to you. And then all of a sudden,
you feel like you can feel many different motions. Your
hair may stand up, you may feel just this warmth,
like a big spiritual warm hug. You may have a
memory that flashes in your mind. And so for our
inspired listeners out there, when you become aware of this
communication style that is very ancient and it's nothing new,

(41:49):
and it's been around for centuries, you really start to
see of the worlds within the worlds that I'm talking
about and have written about and for you, Karen, I
love that you teach on feeling because that's very very important.
We think too much and feel too little. If you
want to go down this path, you almost have to
flip it. You need to move into this, especially if
you're a guy. I'm speaking to you guy listeners out there.

(42:11):
If you really want to move into the power of
the soul that Karen was just referencing, then you need
to move into that feeling, that impression which many times,
as you know, Karen Maybels would always say, push down
to the claar cognents that that sense of knowing or
feeling it. If it comes back three times, then that's
usually the communication of the spirit person trying to make
contact with you. And again, just a caveat here for

(42:34):
the listeners out there. Nothing to be scared of. Nothing
that you've seen in a Hollywood movie or something that's
going to come from fear based. That's your own mind
getting in the way. I've done thousands of readings, and
I'm sure Karen you could agree with this. I don't
find the spirit world to be hostile or intimidating, or
fearful or scary like you see in a movie. That's
usually your imagination now kicking in or a learned behavior

(42:56):
of how you're raised.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
So don't buy into that, BS, is what I would say.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, I completely, And you know, you get asked that
all the time, don't you The meed.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
To get asked about the evil spirits, the bad spirits,
what happened on the way.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
And you know, I'm just like you work in the light,
you love in the light, and that's where you add
and the spirit world. In all the years that I've
done this, I've never felt writing, I've never felt, you know,
there's anything to worry about at all.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, and that's we're teaching and being educated and being
mentor because when I did first start down this journey
several years ago, two decades ago, I did have some
you know, situations where they were a little intimidated, they
were a little scary. But over time I realized it
was my own ego, it was my own imagination filling
in the new experiences that I was having, right, And so.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Oh yeah, you know, and it wills, you know, your
mind will tell you that that's not normal, or that's
something frightening, or it's like when people talk about poultry
geist activity and telling a story about that, you know,
where this family were very frightened. There was activity in
the house, but it was just advantab in the spirit world.
But because you don't know what it is and you

(44:07):
can't hear it, or maybe you're not understanding of it,
then your mind and your ego will tell you to
stay safe and.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
They will tell you that it's something bad and it's
nothing bad at all.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
But until you know that, and until you develop that yourself,
that's the hardest thing to get through.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, exactly, And I would even take that one step further.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
They've done studies based on poltergeist activity, which is the
movement of objects, right, and they have found that when
there are young girls coming of age, we have that energy. Right,
Everything is based on energy, frequency, vibration, the energy in
your heart. They found that a lot of times polter
geys would actually be associated with young girls coming of
age and just the emotions and the ability because it
would be like, why is the spirit person going to

(44:47):
show up and break a plate against the wall. That
makes no intelligent sense to me to be like, hey,
I'm here, but I'm going to break a play or
throw a plate against the wall or move a glass
across the table.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
So sometimes we.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Have our own power that we can mistaken for a
connection with the spirit world. And they've done several studies,
the Psychic Institute there in England has looked at this
from an energy standpoint and it's just it's fascinating. And
again it comes back to you just because we don't
see it does not mean it's not there and or
around us. But it's not filled with doom and gloom
and fear. And if that, if you find that to

(45:19):
be the case, then you come, you look up Karen,
or you look at myself, and you come get educated.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
With us and we'll we'll set you on the right path.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
So yeah, so let's let's let's let's go deeper in
that feeling, because you said it's a feeling.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
What does that look like? What does that sound like?
When you bring messages from the other side and you're
feeling that connection.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
You know, the first thing I would say, that feels
absolutely wonderful when you connect with spirit. And I think
I spent a lot of time in my life you know,
feeling like if that unless I have that connection, I
don't feel like I'm myself And you know, there's been
times of stress in my life weight have just been
my I need to connect to the spirit to just
feel like I'm me again. So it is a powerful

(46:04):
feeling and moving it through my mediumship or me moving
through the power of the medium ship, it just feels alive.
It feels like it's moving. When your loved ones come
to communicate through me or through any medium, you know,
the medium feels that like that person is truly there,
because they are and we know that. But when someone

(46:26):
can't see that, they don't quite understand it. And for me,
it's a really massive presence. It's a really massive energy boost.
And that's the only.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
Way I can describe it. Is just so very real.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Yeah, and I can see someone.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I can already pick up some of the thoughts from
inspired listeners saying, well, what if they possess you? What
if they take over your body? Talk about that a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah, No, that doesn't happen either. I think that there's
a lot of confusion about that as well. Now, mediums
can become entrance and we do it, we go into
a slight altered state when we are communicating the spirit.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
Because what we're doing is moving.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
I would ego out of the way and stepping into
the power of our soul and our spirit and our mediumship.
So yes, we go into a slightly altered state when
we're communicating, but there's never any danger there. And people
talk about, you know, you have to do grounding, you
have to make sure you're safe, you have to do
prayers and rituals. I never felt like I have to

(47:23):
do that, you know, over the top. I always do
my prayer to Spirit before I start work. I always
speak to Spirit, and I always say I work in
the light. So there's never going to be any in
my experience any danger of that happening.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, and thank you for saying that, because through again,
through my studies, I just finished up my four year
accreditation through the Spiritual National Union, so I'm now an
accredited medium. And I think that's important to speak to
this because what Karen is just talking about is described
takes several years to move into what's called control mediumship.
We have perception mediumship, which is through the mind you're

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perceiving the communication, but the control is where you completely
surrender and you can channel some very amazing things with
the spirit world, but they're not possessing the human body.
They're not taking you over. It's not some demon coming in.
It's none of that BS or a Hollywood movie. So
I just wanted to bring that up, because you can
go deep down this rabbit hole with the spirit world,

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and you can really if you sit in a circle,
if you develop and you're dedicated. But again, this is
something controlled mediumship is something that takes years of dedication,
intention and sitting with the spirit world to develop that relationship.
And I've seen over my course of time, I'm sure
you have two care and I've seen some amazing demonstrations
with controlled mediumship or what we would also call trance mediumship,

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a deeper form of mediumship where the spirit person can
come forward through the medium and give appearance, can give information,
but they're not taking us over.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
They're We're always in control.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
But it's how we attune and how we change our
level of consciousness that allows that process to take place.
And again that's something that's usually done over a series
of years to get to that point.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
So I just wanted to bring that up.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Yeah, I completely agree, and I think that people sometimes
especially early in development or people that are eager with
their development, they want to get to these stages very quickly,
and it's you know, this is a dedicated thing, you know,
and it is a lifelong thing, you know, if you're
a medium. So and now I always say to students,
don't rush it, you know, enjoy the journey. This isn't

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there's not a race with this, you know. It's something
that you just go through and the spirit world will
guide you through that.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And again I'm going to go back to Mavis because
her Gord Higginson was one of her mentors when she
first started, and she shared this with me in the
fact that many are called, but few are chosen. And
I found that to always be interesting that, yeah, there
are many psychic medias out there, but what is the
work that they're doing, what is the healing that they're

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bringing forth?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Are they representing the spirit.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
World in a certified, credited professional manner or they did
they one day just wake up and say, oh, I
want to be a professional medium, get on the stage
and have a television show.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
That's not the conversation Karen and I are having. That
is not the path of mediumship.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
So if that's what you want to explore a prospect
for it, then that's free will choice. But the conversation
we're having today is about the power of spirit and
the true healing that.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Comes with that. And so that leads me to my
next question.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
What has been the most challenging I think for you
in this journey to become aware of different worlds, to
become aware of the spirit world working and walking with us.
How do you find that to be the challenge? I
guess what's the most challenging about your work based on

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where you're at on today's journey.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
I think the most challenging thing is actually understanding when
you go into this that you change personally. You change
like this isn't you know? When you do your mediumship development,
you think you're going into mediumship development, but actually what's
happening is it's a personal development and your whole outlook changes.
The way that you see things changes, the way that

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you will tolerate things changes, Relationships can change, friendships can change.
It really does alter your world, and it's I'm not
saying that.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
That's a bad thing.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
I just feel like you change inwardly first and foremost,
you get to know who you truly are, and then
that's obviously manifesting too. Your mediumship journey. So that was
very challenging for me, like knowing that my landscape of
my life was changing because I had chosen to fulfill this,
but the calling was too much for me and there's

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no way.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
That I could have ignored it. I just felt like this.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Was what I just felt like I was home. I
felt like this was me, this was what I was
supposed to do it. And it was actually may Have
that first told me. I got up to do an
address a class of hers that I decided to attend,
and I was a complete beginner, and she asked.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Me to stand up and get an address.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
On I've got a philosophy on a remote show and
I have to Yeah, And I had.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
To stand and do philosophy and asked it.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
She said, well, I hope you're doing your mediumship, young lady,
she said, because you have such a power of mediumship
to unfold. So that was a great compliment to me.
But after that, I actually won Gordon Higgins the scholarship
at the college in.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
His memory and the game to do my studies.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
So all of these teatures you're talking about, I feel
created such a pastway for me to look at my development.
But that doesn't mean that there wasn't challenges along the way.
And as I'm sure you've went through yourself, Mark, you know,
it does become very very.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Personal, you know, and it does, and it's you know,
the transformation. Again, for the listeners out there, this is
all free and choice. The spirit world will show up,
but they will never impose. It is going to be
based on you if you want to decide to go
down this path, based on your own free will and choice,
which is the power of incarnation why we're here or
in the physical world. But it's no different than the

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caterpillar metamorphosing to what Karen just said, into the butterfly.
And sometimes it's hard the landscape changes, and not that
the butterfly is better than the caterpillar, but sometimes it's
hard to have butterflies speak with caterpillar people because you've transformed.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
You've evolved.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
So I think that's a great piece of advice Karen
for the journey, because the landscape, yes, has completely changed
for me, and that was hard to go through because
there's a lot of opinions and pundits and you know,
expectations that can come with this. So it's not an
easy journey. But again It's the journey of a thousand
miles begins with that single step. So take it one
day at a time and find a good teacher or

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mentor like Karen that can help you on your journey
with that. Karen, what inspires you today? Who or what
inspires you today?

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Within my mediumship, I'm still very, very inspired by the
weak great medium. That's something that I think I will
always have a connection with. I'll always you know, heart
back to that because I just feel like they created
something so special. And hopefully the mediums of today, like
you and I and many other thousands of mediums, hopefully
that will continue.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
We will be able to inspire and create. But for me,
in a personal way, I.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Think my inspirational is going to come from helping people
and helping people see that it's not just about those
that have crossed over, it's about themselves. It's about their
power of spirit and trying to help people understand that
you've got the power. You know, you do have this,
and you might not know how to channel that or
tap into it, but you can get help with that.

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You can listen to teachers and mentors and get the
help with that.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
But you all have it and that inspires me greatly
to keep doing my work.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
And just before we close, Karen, go ahead and just
let us know where we can find you out there
in this world of ours, whether through it's your website
or if you've got any events coming up or anything
you want to share with the listening on is before
we close today show.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
For sure, everyone can go to the website. And everything
that I do is on my website. All the podcasts
I do go on there, information about my work, everything else, mentorship,
it's all on the website.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
So we'll say that's the best place to go.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Well, I love it.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Thanks for coming on the show for the first time.
You're welcome back anytime if you want to continue to
have conversations on the power of spirit, the intelligence spirit,
the healing of the spirit, and what we do as
modern day medium. So thank you Careen for being on
and I really appreciate you. And keep up the great work.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Okay, my friend, thank you?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
All right, all right, inspired listeners until our next sole
adventure together. Thanks, be caring, be compassionate, and most importantly,
wherever you're at in this world, dare to dream, there
to explore, there to live, And I hope that you'll
discover that time within. We'll see you next time you're
on inspired. Let me take care ofbody.