October 9, 2025 • 49 mins
I am a fourth-generation Christian born and raised in Pakistan by my prayer warrior mother whose unwavering faith was an inspiration, motivation, footstep to me and my six siblings. After facing persecution and an increasingly dangerous political climate, she encouraged us to leave the country any way we could. So I worked hard to obtain an MBA degree and with God’s guidance, secured a job in Dubai where I met and married my husband, Ratnam and had a daughter named Angelica. God then opened a door so that we could emigrate to Canada where we live today. Though I have been hearing from God in dreams since the age of nine, it was not until after I lost my beloved mother and after I arrived in Canada that I rededicated my life to God and received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit on 11 September 2011. From that day till today I spend many hours a day in prayer to God and receive many dreams and visions from Him. As a result, I am able to be a blessing to others by praying for them at the right time when they might not even be aware that they need prayer. I have also received miraculous healings from my own major health problems and for my family as well. Inspired by the many miracles I have experienced, my goal has become to share God’s voice that I have heard with others through film and any other medium that God can use. I hope to use my stories to inspire others to have a more profound relationship with God and to experience more fully His presence the way I have been privileged to do. I have also been overcome with love and compassion for the many Christians still suffering in my native country of Pakistan and wish to raise funds to help them through U R the Inspiration Foundation.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you for listening to the picture of the radiant.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:03):
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Speaker 5 (01:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:20):
Along?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Is it dead?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
While we gather up our our beverage of choice, our
coffee or tea maybe it's water, uh, and our snacks
while we listen to our next guest speak and tell
us about their inspiring story. Let me tell you a
little bit about Hannah Ratman, and this is a statement
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for her. I am a fourth generation generation born Christian,
raised in Pakistan by my prayer warrior mother, whose unwavering
faith was an inspiration motivation footstep to me and my
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six siblings. After facing persecution and increasing danger of political climate,
she encouraged us to leave the country any way we could.
So I worked hard to obtain an MBA degree and,
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with God's guidance, secured a job in Dubai, where I
met and married my husband, Ratna, and I had a
daughter named Angelica. God then opened the door so that
we could immigrate to Canada, where we live today. Though
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I have been hearing from God in my dreams since
the age of nine, it was not until after I
lost my beloved mother and after I arrived in Canada
that I rededicated my life to God and received the
Baptism of the Holy Spirit on the eleventh of September
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two thousand and eleven. From that day to till today,
I spent many hours a day in prayer to God
and receive many dreams and visions from Him. As a result,
I am able to be a blessing to others by
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praying for them and at the right time when they
may not even be aware that they need prayer. I
also have received a miraculous healing from my major health
for my major health problems and for my family as well.
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Inspire by many miracles, I have experienced my goal to
become to share God's voice that I have heard with
others through film and other mediums that God can use.
I hope to use my story to inspire others to
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have more profound relationships with God and to experience more
fully His presence the way I have been privileged to do.
I have also been overcome with love and compassion for
many Christians still suffering in my native country of Pakistan,
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and I wish to raise funds to help them Through
you you are the inspirational foundation. So we'll get back
to who the inspirational foundation is. But why don't we
welcome Hannah to the show so she can tell us
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so much more about her life and the miracles as
she has seen.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Well, get started the funny, so and welcome to the show.
It is a real pleasure to meet somebody else that
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knows how to truly speak to God or what's to happen.
It's like, not not the that always all all over
there and it has no effect of bearing all my life.
But somebody who honestly believes that, hey, if I build
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a relationship with God, that God will enter my life
and and and bless my life and enrich my life.
It's like, so, it's a really pleasure to meet you
and to speak with you about one Hannah Scream, which
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is a.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Book, right, that's right?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, and well one we get to it. Why don't
you start with you? You you moved Pakistans. I've moved
away from Pakistan as a promise to your mom, right right,
So well we start there, so tell us about that.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
First of all, thank you Michael for giving me this
opportunity to be on your show. Depiction Media films, and
it's an honor to talk about the project. It's a
very huge project which I've been carrying this dream for
the last twelve years. And initially we wrote a script
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which was done in twenty twenty. When COVID hit, there
was nothing else to do. So I start praying and
I said, God, I don't know what to do because
there's no work anymore. I used to work in school
District thirty six and then everything is closed. I was
sitting and God reminded me that I have lots of
dreams and visions which I wrote in the journal. So
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he gave me idea to start writing them like a proper,
per document. And I'm not a scriptwriter. I don't know
how to write script. So I start praying again, and
God sent me an angel from USA, and she and
myself partner up and we wrote the script. Within six months,
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it was ready and then another got sent another angel
and they said, oh, your script is ready, why don't
you send it to different film festivals. And I had
no clue what film festivals are about and where they are.
So that guy taught me everything and he said do this,
do that, and I just did follow instructions. And the
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first time in my entire life, I submit this script
and right away the award was recognized. It was recognized
for the award, and I said, what happened all this?
I have no clue what I did. So it was
very interesting. And the dream was on nineteen September twenty thirteen.
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So the first war which came was nineteen September twenty twenty,
right after seven years. So seven years is like a
biblical blessing. And that seven years which I worked on it.
It was a very very honor for me that God
blessed me and same day, same month, just after seven years,
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so for me it was very encouraging and for my
other teen and then everybody said, Hannah, why don't you
do the short movie? Because everything is closed, people cannot
meet anywhere. So I had some pictures, some small footages,
some little small videos. So we just create a very
ordinary zero budget I will say, or not even zero
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budget video, and I just submit to some film festivals
and everywhere wherever Hannah's been went either it's a script
or a movie, I mean the video shot video. It
won awards among all of them. So that was very
encouraging because the script where I submitted first time. It
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was in Toronto and it was International Christian Faith and
Film Festival, and there it was roughly thirty five to
forty scripts already submitted. So out of those thirty five,
Hannah's been won first award. And then it happened on
and on. I continue prayed, and I continue to submit
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the script and then the video, and then video got
seventeen awards by God's chrace. So that was another encouragement
that God's hand was on the story from the day
he gave me the dream till today. And now I
wrote the book.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And the book is nearly a best starter, now, wasn't it?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
So I published on twenty eight July twenty twenty five
this year, a couple of months ago. And the day
we published on Amazon. Next day somebody contacted me and
they said, have you seen you got bestseller title and
spiritual gifts. I said, really, I don't know. I have
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not checked it because I was so tired and busy,
and I said, okay, I will check. And then another
person contacted me and they say, you got another recognition
on Amazon and it is in Pakistani history. And then
there was another recognition which is for movie director category.
And then there's another and another, and I said, okay, okay, okay,
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dangled for all that. Yeah. So and then also I
got recognized with the book. And there is like one
hundred books. They take the best hundred books among all
the other books. And in that also there are two recognitions,
one on the twenty fourth position and one is on
the twenty eighth position among rid of them.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Wow, that's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Thank God for that.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Yes, uh, I see it seems that God really wants
his story told. So you mentioned it is a market
in Pakistani history. That's right, So let's discuss the event.
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What actually happened that day that marked history?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
So I had a dream, Okay, I'll tell you a
little bit about my personal life how all this started actually, So,
my mom always reminded me that God has a call
on your life for the nation, and I always ignored it.
I was busy, you know, youth and teens and adult
and whatever, marriage and kid and what not happened in
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my life. So I was so busy with all that.
And then my mom passed away in twenty ten and
I moved in Canada in two thousand and nine. So, right,
after I moved, she passed away and I could not
go to Pakistan because I was very new to Canada.
Then I was just praying and I said, Lord, I
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don't have a mother now who used to pray and
anything you name it, she will pray and you will
get it. And I said, I don't have that anymore.
How do I get all that? Where do I go
and ask anybody to pray for me and I will
get those things? So my question was to God, then,
who will give me those things? So if I need
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a job, she'll pray and I get a job. If
I go on to travel, she'll pray. I get money
for traveling. So everything she prayed it used to come
to pass. It's so powerful for me. So I start
asking God, what did you give my mother which can
open the all the doors, all the windows. So I
start praying on that thing which I didn't knew what
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is that? And then I got baptism Holy Spirit baptism
on eleven September twenty eleven. That is the time. And
I found if I need to pray and get the
Heaven's door and windows open, I need to have the
baptism of Holy Spirit. And then I start having dreams,
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more dreams, more frequently, visions, more hearing from God, more
and more into all other things. And then this dream
came because for two years I was very sad about
my mom. I had a car accident, I had a
miscarriage with that, and I was just saying, Lord, why
did you bring to me to Canada? Why I'm here
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all alone? And I could not go back. I can't
meet my mother. I'm just sick and tired, I am injured.
So why I'm here? So that question NonStop? Why why
I'm here? God gave me a dream, And that was
on nineteen September twenty thirteen, as I just mentioned, And
there God showed me a white colored church. So you
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can see there it's a church building. It looks like
mosque because in that country there are many buildings looks
like that, but it is a church. It's a proper
huge church, maybe built before a partition even. And then
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there were congregations, so I put the congregation everywhere on
the sides. And there were two men wearing big shawl
and they had big guns in their hands. And I
was in the church at that time. Spiritually my body
was there. And then I heard them saying that we
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are going to kill all of them today. I got
up from the congregation and I shouted, closed the door,
closed the windows. These guys are gonna get in and
kill all of you. And the moment I said that,
the security guard got up and the first guy get
in the building area the compound and he blast himself.
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So that first blast was like huge, homongous destruction. They
were like blood all over. Kids were running, they could
not find their parents. Parents are shouting, screaming for their kids. Ambulance, farbergate,
you just name it how the disaster was. It was
all black smoke. Nobody was trying to find anybody because
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of that smoke around and I don't know what to do.
I'm just standing there watching everything, but I can't do nothing.
And then another guy came and he did the same.
He blasted himself. And then I saw very tiny, like
a round circle bullets and they were all with the nails.
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So when they were flowing like just flying everywhere, it
was cutting off body parts. It was cutting off body everything.
Wherever it hurt, it was just breaking. There were a
hole in the wall, there were holes in the body.
Somebody got hit in the head, somebody got hit in
their body and still people had those bullets for a
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very long time because they went real inside the body.
So that was such a pain for me to see
all that. And kids also got injured. Mothers got injured.
There was lots of blood everywhere, and I don't know
what to do. I'm just saying, God, please help them.
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In my dream, I'm there, but I'm saying God help them.
They need somebody. Send your angels. I'm praying. I'm praying
in that dream. And one girl, she was standing in
the middle of the compound and she said, I can't
find my mother. And I hold her in my arms
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and I rush inside the building and there was a
closet on the left hand side, and I went in
that and I saw there are bibles there are you know,
like pastor wear that white gown with this red color scarf,
something like that, and lots of children's books, lots of instruments,
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a lot of things were there. And then I was
just putting my hand on her mother. I said, don't talk,
don't scream. They will get in and kill you and
me as well, So don't talk, don't scream, don't cry.
And there was a peak hole where I can very
clearly see what's happening. So one time I was in
the hospital. One time I was in the graveyard. One
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time I was in the compound church compound. One time
I was with the widows orphans. And then I saw
a huge, very massive funeral boxes on the floor and
people and especially women are sitting next to them and
they're crying. And I went there and saw closely, and
I said, for who you're crying. There's nobody inside, and
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they're just crying. They have no words to explain me.
And then then I saw a lot of grapes. Graves
were opened, and the funeral boxes were taken in and
people are putting them and there's a prayer happening, vigil happening. Oh,
that was so much to see in that dream. And
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then I got up with scared and I was sweating.
I was tired, as if something really I worked on it.
It was around four foro thirteen in the morning. It
was September time, and you know, it's dark, it's raining,
and I just got up and I told my husband,
I saw this dream and this is something very weird
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and I've never seen such stream and I felt this
is Pakistan. Because the way they were praying, the way
they dressed up, the way everything I saw in the church,
I had a very strong feeling it is somewhere in Pakistan,
but where I don't know. So he tried to give
me a little comfort and he said, don't worry. Everything
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is going to be okay. And I said, no, it's
not going to be okay. I don't know if it's
happening or it's already happened, or will happen. I don't know.
And I came down. We have two floors, so I
came down. I start praying. For three days. I was
very sad. I was all the time crying and I
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was just like as if somebody died in my own house.
I was like mourning for them. And then we went
out because my daughter had to go and buy the
school supply. We ate outside and as soon as I
came home, I felt in my spirit that something is
happening there somewhere, and I told Rutnam, no, we have
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to go home. I can't be out anymore. I need
to go home. And I'm not a TV person. I
don't watch a lot of media TV. Whatever is happening,
I stopped for a reason, because I'll tell you another
time why I stopped watching TV. And then I don't
know why I hold the the the remote. I don't
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know why. I can't understand till today, and I just
press something. I don't know what channel I pressed. And
the first thing it was the blast, exactly the same
same dream. It was on TV. And I got so
shocked with that, and I said, what is that? What happened?
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And every single dot of my dream was showing on
the TV. Then it was all over the media. It
was all over the world, and I was broken. I
was like shattered of seeing all that. So first I
saw in the dream. Second time we went the day
we went out for buying my daughter's supplies. We went
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to cinema also to watch the movie. This is my mistake.
I should have not done it and stood in the
gap and pray. And then the third time on the TV.
So it was like inside my body for a very
long time, and I could not forget till today. And
then I just repent and I said, Lord, please forgive me.
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You showed me already and I did not do nothing.
I was just taking it so easy. I should have
prayed more. I should have fasted more. I should have
interceeded for these souls wherever they are, and maybe this
disaster should have not happened. So in my heart I
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was feeling guilty for a very long time that God
gave me this dream and I did not spend quality
or time with God to intercede for them standing in
the gap. And I just prayed after that, and I said,
from now onwards, whatever dream, whatever vision, whatever message, you
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will give it to me, I will not take it simple.
I will not go and watch movies, I'll not meet people,
I'll not do anything. I will interested I will pray.
So my question to God when I was asking why
you brought me to Canada, that is the answer. So
he gave me answer through a dream explaining everything, how
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bad things are happening in Pakistan with Christians. And that
was my actually the day where I found my calling.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, so there's still even till today, there's still a
fight between or persecution between Christians and Artis say mus
Muslims onto the Christians, right, and that's right.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
There were two bar suicide bombers.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
They were Muslim, yes, And because I know uh Pakistan,
the government is even mostly mostly Muslim, that's right.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
It's a Muslim count, that's right.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah. I know they don't talk about the same as
they do Iran or or Afghanistan.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
You know, nobody talks about that.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah, they don't. They don't talk about it in the
same way because I guess one, women don't have to
be just in necessarily just in the burka. But but
the persecution is still real between a controlling group of
people onto a minority.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Group, that's right.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah. So in other words, God told you he wanted
you to be in a place where you'll be safe
as a Christian so that you could help other Christians.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
That's right. He wanted me to be a voice for
unvoiced people especially. And also I forgot to mention I
never wanted to come to Canada. I was living in Dubai.
We were there for almost like nine ten years. I
was like a princess there. I had two maids, one driver,
one trainer and whatnot. So I never thought that I
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will come to Canada. I never had plans. I never applied.
I even opened my file. But this file miraclely opened
because I was working with one of the immigration consultant
when I was in grade eleven and twelve, he opened
that file for me. He actually kept that file alive
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and after I think maybe ten fifteen years when I
left that company, it was almost ten fifteen years. Then
God gave me a vision when I was in Dubai
that this file is still open, still existing and usually
doesn't happen like that.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Wow. So you have we you have people think God
put in a place to look Afrey.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah. And he always used to tell me, Hannah, you
have to go one day to Canada. And I said,
my mom will never ever let me go alone because
it's not our culture. So he said, you will need
this file one day. I'm telling you you need this.
I said, no, don't do that. My mother will not
let me go and I will not leave without her also.
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But I think it was God's plan. That's how my
file opened within six months we were in Canada.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Wow, that that was pretty fast.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Very fast. I have no clue what happened in those
six months.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah. So okay, so what is it that you do
here in Canada.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
I came in two thousand and nine. Then I worked
for school district for seven and a half years, and
then I was taking care of my very young child.
She was only three and a half years old, so
her school activities. I did lots of volunteer work. I
studied for almost one year as a marketing diploma. I
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served in the community and also with senior home for
another seven and a half years. At the same time
in working with school, I went to street ministry out
there volunteer there. Most of the volunteer with my church
with the teen preteen women new migrants. So that was
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my initial years in Canada. I worked for a company
for a little bit and then I got a car accident,
but I was recovered. I went back to my school
work and then I had my catering business for almost
three and a half years before COVID. That was a
good job, not job like big income business on the side.
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So I was looking after my child, myself home and
at the same time earning through my personal cheft skills abilities.
And then COVID came. Everything got stopped and then everybody
was at home. Then I shared with you what happened
with the script and shot movie and now the book.
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And when I went back to work in twenty twenty twenty,
I took a job for as a caretaker and there
a commercial vacuum fell on my right leg, right thigh.
It's huge, it's harmongous, and there I got heard with
my thigh and hip initially and later after two years
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when my MRI happened, it was diagnosed that my disc
husband slipped two of them, and that was very, very painful.
Then I got shiatica because the disc is hitting my
one of the nerves and that gives me a lot
of pain with shiatica and with my hernia. But thank god,
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I'm surviving. I'm managing. I'm okay, I can manage whatever
I can. But it's different than before, very different.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
So does you turn into writing and filming?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
That's right?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Yeah, okay, I want something A few people to understand
something about about you. But she's al us about an
industrial vacuum cleaner falling on her. Well, Hannah is for you,
like five three five two. You're not very tall, right,
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and you're you're not a very big person at all
physically statue wise, but I will say this that you
are a very big in spirit. Because when we first met,
I was like, oh you're you. You were this this
powerhouse of a person at a networking event because we
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both live local to each other? So so yeah, uh
so that a very big statured person, but a very
big in spirit person.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Thank God.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yes, so I can picture the backup your phoney, that's
big thing fallow on little person.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Ouch.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Uh so yeah, but weren't that you? You? You've been
given this of this other gift for telling stories and
and and and to have visions to actually help people.
So that's how do you how do you use that
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in the community?
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Sorry, I say it again, how do you?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
How do you use that in our community to help
rich other people's lives?
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Well, if it's a Christian, then I share my testimony
exactly how God has done in my life. In some places,
like public places or like public school or public areas,
there I cannot share God. Sometimes it's not like I
don't know. We are a Canadian Christian country, but some
places it's difficult to share God. So I just share
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my true life, my my bio or my background, which
does not say a lot about how do I present
I'm not presenting Bible at the same time, but I
am saying about God so publicly. I am sharing what
God has done in my life and how my struggles, hardship, pain,
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suffering from the childhood to whatever time I'm here, that
all I share as is So I've been sharing this
in the churches, in the senior home, in many public areas.
Even if I go somewhere and I find people and
they're in trouble and they need some help, so I
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just say, do you want me to help you? And
then I start sharing it. Many churches has invited me
to talk about different topics. I just pray. I just
pray for people when I know they're having issues. Somebody
had car accident and I just felt that something is
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happening there, and I just pray for them and I
call them, are you okay? Everything is fine with you?
And that's how my spirit tells me that something is
there with somebody, happens somewhere. Sometimes God gives me names,
sometimes he gives me faces. Sometimes he gave me like
somewhere exactly where it is happening. So when that place
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I see your person, I say, I just raise my
hands and I pray for that. That's all I do.
So sometimes I don't have to say it. But God
knows he can send his angels, he can bring somebody
around that place to help them. But my role is
now to pray for that right.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I will say this much bit a little personal testimony.
I don't know if you were sitting there praying, but
my wife and I were in a automobile accident just
a few days before before we sat down to record this,
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and in between the time that we actually had our
first discussion about hey, let's do the podcast interview, and
somehow or another, I don't remember how how I put
it to you. I guess you just called it, and
you I.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Just called you. I felt are you okay?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
And then so the process since has been pretty smooth.
That you know, we'll be put put back together again
with with with the vehicle and all that kind of stuff.
But it's good to know when you have so many
in your corner, it is also advocating for you. So
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it's it's pretty cool, and you do that for a
lot of people.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Yes, I do whatever God shows me and whatever He
put in my Sometimes I can hear very very sweet
whisper voice, and that voice tells me what I have
to do. So sometimes I do weird stuff. People think, oh,
she's mad, But I'm not mad. I'm doing what God
is telling me to do. And sometimes I just you know,
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i'm in the public, I'll just raise my hands and
I pray and I just, you know, worship. The other day,
I was in Fruitiquena and I was just singing something
and one of the guys was watching me and he
was trying to listen to what I'm singing. And I said,
do you need help? And he said, oh, I like
your voice and I like the way you're worshiping. So
he knows what I'm singing. So he felt that in
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his spirit that I'm worshiping. And he said, just pray,
just pray. There's so many people around, and I say, yeah,
that's what I'm doing, That's what I'm exactly doing.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Yeah, well, let's talk about that. The work worship, like
in a lot of Christian denominations in the Western part
of Christianity, it has to be on Sunday and it
has to be in this in this building, and it
has to be That isn't what worship is that is
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really about it. It's a it's a daily it's it's
a way of living.
Speaker 7 (36:01):
Okay. So there are different different worships in different timings
and different ways you can do. So one worship, which
you just mentioned is as a congregation as a family team,
a group of people's worshiping God in one under one roof.
That's between like a community or like a group of
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people together worshiping. Right, there's music, there's people singing, or
maybe there's a choir. That's one way of worshiping. But me,
as an individual, I worship all the time, no matter
what I'm doing. Even in my shower, I sing. I
don't care how my voice is, how beautiful I can sing,
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or how nicely I can sing. I just worship because
God needs your heart. He's not looking for your voice
or body. He needs your true heart. How you worship.
That's what he's looking for. That's like individual worship. And
then maybe you have a family they sit together they
pray the worship, or maybe you have friends. They come together,
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they want to play music, they worship whatever God is
leading them. So there's different ways you can worship. I
don't care. Even in my car, I just turn on worship,
and I just saying, and fruity can I can sing
but slowly not lovely.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Yeah, I'm just saying. It's it's good that you are
so immersed in your faith that you can worship anywhere
you want without the confind of our social rules that
exist in Canada around. It has to be in the
building worship and it can't be any anywhere else Otherwise, people.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
People evangelism on the street. There are many people who
are going around the city and worship and doing some
kind of evangelism. There are also people trying to, you know,
take weekends Sunday offs and get together in the group
and the family. It's up to you how God leads you,
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how you make that connection with him. That's that's most important,
because ultimately you have to answer God, not anybody else.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Exactly. That's exactly true. I like how you put it
that way, that we have to answer God, that to that,
to anyone else. The other while we're sitting here depunking,
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while we're sitting here the debunking Christian nationalists. This the
other one is that bid there some out there they
claim to be Christian and everything, and they say that,
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oh no, we have to love the doctrine, we have
to love the church. And they get all about the
idea of let's love our neighbor and how to advocate
for Hey, let's forget about the doctrine and all the
church and everything that it's more important to love my
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neighbor than it is all the rest of that stuff.
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Okay, so the harder archae was God created as first God,
obey him, listen to him, follow him, and then your family,
so husband, my children is your first priority. Then church,
and then neighbors. So so when we go right away
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to neighbor and we don't go to that hierarchy problem
starts there. So when we know that, okay, I have
to first give I'm talking about myself. I'm not pointing
out anybody I know. Yeah, it's just I'm talking about myself.
So I'm just saying that when I get up, I
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know my first time in the morning is for good.
That's first priority in my life. Then my second priority
is my husband and my daughter, and I have to
do my kitchen, breakfast, whatever I have to do. So
once they are done, they're gone. I have other things
to do. I do all that, and even if I
have to go out or you know, meet somebody, or
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I used to drive a lot and sometimes take people
to different places, help newcomers, driving them around. I just said,
I used to go to senior home and help them,
but now I cannot do all that physically, but emotionally
and mentally or maybe spiritually I can do that. I
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can release angels sitting in my house, praying for them
whoever they need help for. So this is me how
I act on my faith and how I think I
behave what God has given me. So my timing is allocated.
My God's time is for my God. My family time
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is for my family. And when I'm talking about my neighbor,
it could be anybody not necessary next door person or
next door friend, or next door in front of me,
somebody's it's not that mean neighbor. Neighbor means whoever is
next to you. So it could be my colleagues, it
could be my church people, or it could be stranger.
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I don't know who is there who needs my help.
So sometime it happens, I would say, Sometimes frequently happens.
I meet stranger and I don't know them, and I'm
just talking and saying hi, Maybe I'm going to throw
the garbage and I meet somebody on the next to
my garbage and we just talked, hi, how are you?
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And they start sharing their heart and I felt in
my spirit God wants me to give them peace. God's peace,
and I asked, do you want me to pray for you?
And they sayyah, please please, We are going through this,
this this, we need help, we need prayers. And I
said okay, and then I give them guidance. Also, okay,
apply here, go there, you will find this thing there.
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This is the best way to connect. There's so many
ways you can help people. So that is called your
helping your neighbor, loving your neighbor.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Also yeah, so okay, one last question because we're starting
to run out of time. Time glis when we're talking
about God having fun, right will we If you if
you were to dream of a world that God wants
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us to have together, what would it like?
Speaker 7 (43:08):
Love, forgiveness, peace, many peace. We don't have peace now
in the world. Too much is going on around. So
the world is made out of humans. God created all
of us in his image and everybody now is fighting
for something or fighting with something somebody. So because of that,
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relationships are gone, bitter distance is there, love is gone,
and everybody is selfish now everybody thinks about themselves. I
need to be rich, I want to be famous, I
want to earn more and whatnot. So that respect or
honor is gone. If there is a mother, children are
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not respecting. If there's a father, children are not respecting
or even parents are not respecting children. So that's that
love is gone missing from that relationship. And because that
love is not there, there is no peace either. It's
a home, it's city, state, country, you name it. There
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is no peace in the world anymore. So I just
pray for the peace and love of God, and and forgiveness.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Repentance, Yes, repentance. I think we do need the forgiveness
and we need the repentance. Yes, I agree. So the
name of your business is Supernatural.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Story is Limited, spur is.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Limited and how and that's also your domain name, right,
Supernatural Spuries. Sorry, your website is supernatural it's.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
Also with the Supernatural Story. No, my website is under
Hannah Rutna because that's the way we had it because
we thought with the Hannah's Dream. But even if you
put Supernatural Stories Limited, it will pop up.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, So for everybody out there, if you want to
go find Hannah's book, it is on Amazon, and I
will put a link in the description for Hannah's book
and there it is, and there we go. Based on.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Supernatural Story.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Yeah, so yeah, it says, based on a true story
All Saints Church and.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
Also in surf a shower in Pakistan.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
Yeah, twenty two September twenty thirteen. That's right, Yes, okay,
I'll say there.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
Are many Hannah's Dream books on Amazon, so that's why
I put the sub title so people recognize. And then
my face is all another reason so people recognize. There
are other books and under the same title Hannah's Dream.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
Yeah, so go buy the book, read the book and
learn more about Hannah and look for the feature film
will come out and as soon as the documentary is
also about what happened that day in Pakistan to those
as God loves loves all of us, so God loved
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those people also who who were killed that particular day.
Speaker 9 (46:33):
So so one come back time and time again and
look look for Hannah and look for for more of
her storytelling and the documentaries on what is happening in
our world.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
So much, Thank you Hannah. It's been wonderful and I
look forward to to see more work.
Speaker 7 (46:57):
Sure, thank you, Thank you so much. Once again.
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Speaker 4 (47:11):
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Speaker 4 (48:47):
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Speaker 2 (48:58):
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Speaker 1 (49:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:38):
While we gather up our our beverage of choice, our
coffee or tea maybe it's water, uh, and our snacks
while we listen to our next guest speak and tell
us about their inspiring story. Let me tell you a
little bit about Hannah Ratman, and this is a statement
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for her. I am a fourth generation generation born Christian,
raised in Pakistan by my prayer warrior mother, whose unwavering
faith was an inspiration motivation footstep to me and my
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six siblings. After facing persecution and increasing danger of political climate,
she encouraged us to leave the country any way we could.
So I worked hard to obtain an MBA degree and,
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with God's guidance, secured a job in Dubai, where I
met and married my husband, Ratna, and I had a
daughter named Angelica. God then opened the door so that
we could immigrate to Canada, where we live today. Though
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I have been hearing from God in my dreams since
the age of nine, it was not until after I
lost my beloved mother and after I arrived in Canada
that I rededicated my life to God and received the
Baptism of the Holy Spirit on the eleventh of September
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two thousand and eleven. From that day to till today,
I spent many hours a day in prayer to God
and receive many dreams and visions from Him. As a result,
I am able to be a blessing to others by
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praying for them and at the right time when they
may not even be aware that they need prayer. I
also have received a miraculous healing from my major health
for my major health problems and for my family as well.
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Inspire by many miracles, I have experienced my goal to
become to share God's voice that I have heard with
others through film and other mediums that God can use.
I hope to use my story to inspire others to
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have more profound relationships with God and to experience more
fully His presence the way I have been privileged to do.
I have also been overcome with love and compassion for
many Christians still suffering in my native country of Pakistan,
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and I wish to raise funds to help them Through
you you are the inspirational foundation. So we'll get back
to who the inspirational foundation is. But why don't we
welcome Hannah to the show so she can tell us
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so much more about her life and the miracles as
she has seen.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Well, get started the funny, so and welcome to the show.
It is a real pleasure to meet somebody else that
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knows how to truly speak to God or what's to happen.
It's like, not not the that always all all over
there and it has no effect of bearing all my life.
But somebody who honestly believes that, hey, if I build
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a relationship with God, that God will enter my life
and and and bless my life and enrich my life.
It's like, so, it's a really pleasure to meet you
and to speak with you about one Hannah Scream, which
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is a.
Speaker 7 (06:51):
Book, right, that's right?
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Yeah, and well one we get to it. Why don't
you start with you? You you moved Pakistans. I've moved
away from Pakistan as a promise to your mom, right right,
So well we start there, so tell us about that.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
First of all, thank you Michael for giving me this
opportunity to be on your show. Depiction Media films, and
it's an honor to talk about the project. It's a
very huge project which I've been carrying this dream for
the last twelve years. And initially we wrote a script
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which was done in twenty twenty. When COVID hit, there
was nothing else to do. So I start praying and
I said, God, I don't know what to do because
there's no work anymore. I used to work in school
District thirty six and then everything is closed. I was
sitting and God reminded me that I have lots of
dreams and visions which I wrote in the journal. So
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he gave me idea to start writing them like a proper,
per document. And I'm not a scriptwriter. I don't know
how to write script. So I start praying again, and
God sent me an angel from USA, and she and
myself partner up and we wrote the script. Within six months,
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it was ready and then another got sent another angel
and they said, oh, your script is ready, why don't
you send it to different film festivals. And I had
no clue what film festivals are about and where they are.
So that guy taught me everything and he said do this,
do that, and I just did follow instructions. And the
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first time in my entire life, I submit this script
and right away the award was recognized. It was recognized
for the award, and I said, what happened all this?
I have no clue what I did. So it was
very interesting. And the dream was on nineteen September twenty thirteen.
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So the first war which came was nineteen September twenty twenty,
right after seven years. So seven years is like a
biblical blessing. And that seven years which I worked on it.
It was a very very honor for me that God
blessed me and same day, same month, just after seven years,
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so for me it was very encouraging and for my
other teen and then everybody said, Hannah, why don't you
do the short movie? Because everything is closed, people cannot
meet anywhere. So I had some pictures, some small footages,
some little small videos. So we just create a very
ordinary zero budget I will say, or not even zero
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budget video, and I just submit to some film festivals
and everywhere wherever Hannah's been went either it's a script
or a movie, I mean the video shot video. It
won awards among all of them. So that was very
encouraging because the script where I submitted first time. It
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was in Toronto and it was International Christian Faith and
Film Festival, and there it was roughly thirty five to
forty scripts already submitted. So out of those thirty five,
Hannah's been won first award. And then it happened on
and on. I continue prayed, and I continue to submit
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the script and then the video, and then video got
seventeen awards by God's chrace. So that was another encouragement
that God's hand was on the story from the day
he gave me the dream till today. And now I
wrote the book.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
And the book is nearly a best starter, now, wasn't it?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
So I published on twenty eight July twenty twenty five
this year, a couple of months ago. And the day
we published on Amazon. Next day somebody contacted me and
they said, have you seen you got bestseller title and
spiritual gifts. I said, really, I don't know. I have
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not checked it because I was so tired and busy,
and I said, okay, I will check. And then another
person contacted me and they say, you got another recognition
on Amazon and it is in Pakistani history. And then
there was another recognition which is for movie director category.
And then there's another and another, and I said, okay, okay, okay,
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dangled for all that. Yeah. So and then also I
got recognized with the book. And there is like one
hundred books. They take the best hundred books among all
the other books. And in that also there are two recognitions,
one on the twenty fourth position and one is on
the twenty eighth position among rid of them.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Wow, that's pretty good.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Thank God for that.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Yes, uh, I see it seems that God really wants
his story told. So you mentioned it is a market
in Pakistani history. That's right, So let's discuss the event.
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What actually happened that day that marked history?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
So I had a dream, Okay, I'll tell you a
little bit about my personal life how all this started actually, So,
my mom always reminded me that God has a call
on your life for the nation, and I always ignored it.
I was busy, you know, youth and teens and adult
and whatever, marriage and kid and what not happened in
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my life. So I was so busy with all that.
And then my mom passed away in twenty ten and
I moved in Canada in two thousand and nine. So, right,
after I moved, she passed away and I could not
go to Pakistan because I was very new to Canada.
Then I was just praying and I said, Lord, I
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don't have a mother now who used to pray and
anything you name it, she will pray and you will
get it. And I said, I don't have that anymore.
How do I get all that? Where do I go
and ask anybody to pray for me and I will
get those things? So my question was to God, then,
who will give me those things? So if I need
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a job, she'll pray and I get a job. If
I go on to travel, she'll pray. I get money
for traveling. So everything she prayed it used to come
to pass. It's so powerful for me. So I start
asking God, what did you give my mother which can
open the all the doors, all the windows. So I
start praying on that thing which I didn't knew what
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is that? And then I got baptism Holy Spirit baptism
on eleven September twenty eleven. That is the time. And
I found if I need to pray and get the
Heaven's door and windows open, I need to have the
baptism of Holy Spirit. And then I start having dreams,
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more dreams, more frequently, visions, more hearing from God, more
and more into all other things. And then this dream
came because for two years I was very sad about
my mom. I had a car accident, I had a
miscarriage with that, and I was just saying, Lord, why
did you bring to me to Canada? Why I'm here
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all alone? And I could not go back. I can't
meet my mother. I'm just sick and tired, I am injured.
So why I'm here? So that question NonStop? Why why
I'm here? God gave me a dream, And that was
on nineteen September twenty thirteen, as I just mentioned, And
there God showed me a white colored church. So you
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can see there it's a church building. It looks like
mosque because in that country there are many buildings looks
like that, but it is a church. It's a proper
huge church, maybe built before a partition even. And then
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there were congregations, so I put the congregation everywhere on
the sides. And there were two men wearing big shawl
and they had big guns in their hands. And I
was in the church at that time. Spiritually my body
was there. And then I heard them saying that we
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are going to kill all of them today. I got
up from the congregation and I shouted, closed the door,
closed the windows. These guys are gonna get in and
kill all of you. And the moment I said that,
the security guard got up and the first guy get
in the building area the compound and he blast himself.
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So that first blast was like huge, homongous destruction. They
were like blood all over. Kids were running, they could
not find their parents. Parents are shouting, screaming for their kids. Ambulance, farbergate,
you just name it how the disaster was. It was
all black smoke. Nobody was trying to find anybody because
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of that smoke around and I don't know what to do.
I'm just standing there watching everything, but I can't do nothing.
And then another guy came and he did the same.
He blasted himself. And then I saw very tiny, like
a round circle bullets and they were all with the nails.
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So when they were flowing like just flying everywhere, it
was cutting off body parts. It was cutting off body everything.
Wherever it hurt, it was just breaking. There were a
hole in the wall, there were holes in the body.
Somebody got hit in the head, somebody got hit in
their body and still people had those bullets for a
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very long time because they went real inside the body.
So that was such a pain for me to see
all that. And kids also got injured. Mothers got injured.
There was lots of blood everywhere, and I don't know
what to do. I'm just saying, God, please help them.
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In my dream, I'm there, but I'm saying God help them.
They need somebody. Send your angels. I'm praying. I'm praying
in that dream. And one girl, she was standing in
the middle of the compound and she said, I can't
find my mother. And I hold her in my arms
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and I rush inside the building and there was a
closet on the left hand side, and I went in
that and I saw there are bibles there are you know,
like pastor wear that white gown with this red color scarf,
something like that, and lots of children's books, lots of instruments,
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a lot of things were there. And then I was
just putting my hand on her mother. I said, don't talk,
don't scream. They will get in and kill you and
me as well, So don't talk, don't scream, don't cry.
And there was a peak hole where I can very
clearly see what's happening. So one time I was in
the hospital. One time I was in the graveyard. One
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time I was in the compound church compound. One time
I was with the widows orphans. And then I saw
a huge, very massive funeral boxes on the floor and
people and especially women are sitting next to them and
they're crying. And I went there and saw closely, and
I said, for who you're crying. There's nobody inside, and
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they're just crying. They have no words to explain me.
And then then I saw a lot of grapes. Graves
were opened, and the funeral boxes were taken in and
people are putting them and there's a prayer happening, vigil happening. Oh,
that was so much to see in that dream. And
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then I got up with scared and I was sweating.
I was tired, as if something really I worked on it.
It was around four foro thirteen in the morning. It
was September time, and you know, it's dark, it's raining,
and I just got up and I told my husband,
I saw this dream and this is something very weird
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and I've never seen such stream and I felt this
is Pakistan. Because the way they were praying, the way
they dressed up, the way everything I saw in the church,
I had a very strong feeling it is somewhere in Pakistan,
but where I don't know. So he tried to give
me a little comfort and he said, don't worry. Everything
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is going to be okay. And I said, no, it's
not going to be okay. I don't know if it's
happening or it's already happened, or will happen. I don't know.
And I came down. We have two floors, so I
came down. I start praying. For three days. I was
very sad. I was all the time crying and I
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was just like as if somebody died in my own house.
I was like mourning for them. And then we went
out because my daughter had to go and buy the
school supply. We ate outside and as soon as I
came home, I felt in my spirit that something is
happening there somewhere, and I told Rutnam, no, we have
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to go home. I can't be out anymore. I need
to go home. And I'm not a TV person. I
don't watch a lot of media TV. Whatever is happening,
I stopped for a reason, because I'll tell you another
time why I stopped watching TV. And then I don't
know why I hold the the the remote. I don't
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know why. I can't understand till today, and I just
press something. I don't know what channel I pressed. And
the first thing it was the blast, exactly the same
same dream. It was on TV. And I got so
shocked with that, and I said, what is that? What happened?
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And every single dot of my dream was showing on
the TV. Then it was all over the media. It
was all over the world, and I was broken. I
was like shattered of seeing all that. So first I
saw in the dream. Second time we went the day
we went out for buying my daughter's supplies. We went
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to cinema also to watch the movie. This is my mistake.
I should have not done it and stood in the
gap and pray. And then the third time on the TV.
So it was like inside my body for a very
long time, and I could not forget till today. And
then I just repent and I said, Lord, please forgive me.
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You showed me already and I did not do nothing.
I was just taking it so easy. I should have
prayed more. I should have fasted more. I should have
interceeded for these souls wherever they are, and maybe this
disaster should have not happened. So in my heart I
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was feeling guilty for a very long time that God
gave me this dream and I did not spend quality
or time with God to intercede for them standing in
the gap. And I just prayed after that, and I said,
from now onwards, whatever dream, whatever vision, whatever message, you
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will give it to me, I will not take it simple.
I will not go and watch movies, I'll not meet people,
I'll not do anything. I will interested I will pray.
So my question to God when I was asking why
you brought me to Canada, that is the answer. So
he gave me answer through a dream explaining everything, how
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bad things are happening in Pakistan with Christians. And that
was my actually the day where I found my calling.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Yeah, so there's still even till today, there's still a
fight between or persecution between Christians and Artis say mus
Muslims onto the Christians, right, and that's right.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
There were two bar suicide bombers.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
They were Muslim, yes, And because I know uh Pakistan,
the government is even mostly mostly Muslim, that's right.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
It's a Muslim count, that's right.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Yeah. I know they don't talk about the same as
they do Iran or or Afghanistan.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
You know, nobody talks about that.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah, they don't. They don't talk about it in the
same way because I guess one, women don't have to
be just in necessarily just in the burka. But but
the persecution is still real between a controlling group of
people onto a minority.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
Group, that's right.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah. So in other words, God told you he wanted
you to be in a place where you'll be safe
as a Christian so that you could help other Christians.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
That's right. He wanted me to be a voice for
unvoiced people especially. And also I forgot to mention I
never wanted to come to Canada. I was living in Dubai.
We were there for almost like nine ten years. I
was like a princess there. I had two maids, one driver,
one trainer and whatnot. So I never thought that I
(25:35):
will come to Canada. I never had plans. I never applied.
I even opened my file. But this file miraclely opened
because I was working with one of the immigration consultant
when I was in grade eleven and twelve, he opened
that file for me. He actually kept that file alive
(25:57):
and after I think maybe ten fifteen years when I
left that company, it was almost ten fifteen years. Then
God gave me a vision when I was in Dubai
that this file is still open, still existing and usually
doesn't happen like that.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Wow. So you have we you have people think God
put in a place to look Afrey.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Yeah. And he always used to tell me, Hannah, you
have to go one day to Canada. And I said,
my mom will never ever let me go alone because
it's not our culture. So he said, you will need
this file one day. I'm telling you you need this.
I said, no, don't do that. My mother will not
let me go and I will not leave without her also.
(26:43):
But I think it was God's plan. That's how my
file opened within six months we were in Canada.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Wow, that that was pretty fast.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Very fast. I have no clue what happened in those
six months.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah. So okay, so what is it that you do
here in Canada.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
I came in two thousand and nine. Then I worked
for school district for seven and a half years, and
then I was taking care of my very young child.
She was only three and a half years old, so
her school activities. I did lots of volunteer work. I
studied for almost one year as a marketing diploma. I
(27:25):
served in the community and also with senior home for
another seven and a half years. At the same time
in working with school, I went to street ministry out
there volunteer there. Most of the volunteer with my church
with the teen preteen women new migrants. So that was
(27:45):
my initial years in Canada. I worked for a company
for a little bit and then I got a car accident,
but I was recovered. I went back to my school
work and then I had my catering business for almost
three and a half years before COVID. That was a
good job, not job like big income business on the side.
(28:09):
So I was looking after my child, myself home and
at the same time earning through my personal cheft skills abilities.
And then COVID came. Everything got stopped and then everybody
was at home. Then I shared with you what happened
with the script and shot movie and now the book.
(28:30):
And when I went back to work in twenty twenty twenty,
I took a job for as a caretaker and there
a commercial vacuum fell on my right leg, right thigh.
It's huge, it's harmongous, and there I got heard with
my thigh and hip initially and later after two years
(28:52):
when my MRI happened, it was diagnosed that my disc
husband slipped two of them, and that was very, very painful.
Then I got shiatica because the disc is hitting my
one of the nerves and that gives me a lot
of pain with shiatica and with my hernia. But thank god,
(29:14):
I'm surviving. I'm managing. I'm okay, I can manage whatever
I can. But it's different than before, very different.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
So does you turn into writing and filming?
Speaker 7 (29:28):
That's right?
Speaker 6 (29:29):
Yeah, okay, I want something A few people to understand
something about about you. But she's al us about an
industrial vacuum cleaner falling on her. Well, Hannah is for you,
like five three five two. You're not very tall, right,
(29:53):
and you're you're not a very big person at all
physically statue wise, but I will say this that you
are a very big in spirit. Because when we first met,
I was like, oh you're you. You were this this
powerhouse of a person at a networking event because we
(30:17):
both live local to each other? So so yeah, uh
so that a very big statured person, but a very
big in spirit person.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Thank God.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yes, so I can picture the backup your phoney, that's
big thing fallow on little person.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Ouch.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Uh so yeah, but weren't that you? You? You've been
given this of this other gift for telling stories and
and and and to have visions to actually help people.
So that's how do you how do you use that
(31:02):
in the community?
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Sorry, I say it again, how do you?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
How do you use that in our community to help
rich other people's lives?
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Well, if it's a Christian, then I share my testimony
exactly how God has done in my life. In some places,
like public places or like public school or public areas,
there I cannot share God. Sometimes it's not like I
don't know. We are a Canadian Christian country, but some
places it's difficult to share God. So I just share
(31:36):
my true life, my my bio or my background, which
does not say a lot about how do I present
I'm not presenting Bible at the same time, but I
am saying about God so publicly. I am sharing what
God has done in my life and how my struggles, hardship, pain,
(32:00):
suffering from the childhood to whatever time I'm here, that
all I share as is So I've been sharing this
in the churches, in the senior home, in many public areas.
Even if I go somewhere and I find people and
they're in trouble and they need some help, so I
(32:21):
just say, do you want me to help you? And
then I start sharing it. Many churches has invited me
to talk about different topics. I just pray. I just
pray for people when I know they're having issues. Somebody
had car accident and I just felt that something is
(32:41):
happening there, and I just pray for them and I
call them, are you okay? Everything is fine with you?
And that's how my spirit tells me that something is
there with somebody, happens somewhere. Sometimes God gives me names,
sometimes he gives me faces. Sometimes he gave me like
somewhere exactly where it is happening. So when that place
(33:05):
I see your person, I say, I just raise my
hands and I pray for that. That's all I do.
So sometimes I don't have to say it. But God
knows he can send his angels, he can bring somebody
around that place to help them. But my role is
now to pray for that right.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
I will say this much bit a little personal testimony.
I don't know if you were sitting there praying, but
my wife and I were in a automobile accident just
a few days before before we sat down to record this,
(33:48):
and in between the time that we actually had our
first discussion about hey, let's do the podcast interview, and
somehow or another, I don't remember how how I put
it to you. I guess you just called it, and
you I.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Just called you. I felt are you okay?
Speaker 6 (34:10):
And then so the process since has been pretty smooth.
That you know, we'll be put put back together again
with with with the vehicle and all that kind of stuff.
But it's good to know when you have so many
in your corner, it is also advocating for you. So
(34:32):
it's it's pretty cool, and you do that for a
lot of people.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
Yes, I do whatever God shows me and whatever He
put in my Sometimes I can hear very very sweet
whisper voice, and that voice tells me what I have
to do. So sometimes I do weird stuff. People think, oh,
she's mad, But I'm not mad. I'm doing what God
is telling me to do. And sometimes I just you know,
(35:00):
i'm in the public, I'll just raise my hands and
I pray and I just, you know, worship. The other day,
I was in Fruitiquena and I was just singing something
and one of the guys was watching me and he
was trying to listen to what I'm singing. And I said,
do you need help? And he said, oh, I like
your voice and I like the way you're worshiping. So
he knows what I'm singing. So he felt that in
(35:22):
his spirit that I'm worshiping. And he said, just pray,
just pray. There's so many people around, and I say, yeah,
that's what I'm doing, That's what I'm exactly doing.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Yeah, well, let's talk about that. The work worship, like
in a lot of Christian denominations in the Western part
of Christianity, it has to be on Sunday and it
has to be in this in this building, and it
has to be That isn't what worship is that is
(35:55):
really about it. It's a it's a daily it's it's
a way of living.
Speaker 7 (36:01):
Okay. So there are different different worships in different timings
and different ways you can do. So one worship, which
you just mentioned is as a congregation as a family team,
a group of people's worshiping God in one under one roof.
That's between like a community or like a group of
(36:25):
people together worshiping. Right, there's music, there's people singing, or
maybe there's a choir. That's one way of worshiping. But me,
as an individual, I worship all the time, no matter
what I'm doing. Even in my shower, I sing. I
don't care how my voice is, how beautiful I can sing,
(36:45):
or how nicely I can sing. I just worship because
God needs your heart. He's not looking for your voice
or body. He needs your true heart. How you worship.
That's what he's looking for. That's like individual worship. And
then maybe you have a family they sit together they
pray the worship, or maybe you have friends. They come together,
(37:06):
they want to play music, they worship whatever God is
leading them. So there's different ways you can worship. I
don't care. Even in my car, I just turn on worship,
and I just saying, and fruity can I can sing
but slowly not lovely.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
Yeah, I'm just saying. It's it's good that you are
so immersed in your faith that you can worship anywhere
you want without the confind of our social rules that
exist in Canada around. It has to be in the
building worship and it can't be any anywhere else Otherwise, people.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
People evangelism on the street. There are many people who
are going around the city and worship and doing some
kind of evangelism. There are also people trying to, you know,
take weekends Sunday offs and get together in the group
and the family. It's up to you how God leads you,
(38:13):
how you make that connection with him. That's that's most important,
because ultimately you have to answer God, not anybody else.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Exactly. That's exactly true. I like how you put it
that way, that we have to answer God, that to that,
to anyone else. The other while we're sitting here depunking,
(38:51):
while we're sitting here the debunking Christian nationalists. This the
other one is that bid there some out there they
claim to be Christian and everything, and they say that,
(39:13):
oh no, we have to love the doctrine, we have
to love the church. And they get all about the
idea of let's love our neighbor and how to advocate
for Hey, let's forget about the doctrine and all the
church and everything that it's more important to love my
(39:33):
neighbor than it is all the rest of that stuff.
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (39:41):
Okay, so the harder archae was God created as first God,
obey him, listen to him, follow him, and then your family,
so husband, my children is your first priority. Then church,
and then neighbors. So so when we go right away
(40:02):
to neighbor and we don't go to that hierarchy problem
starts there. So when we know that, okay, I have
to first give I'm talking about myself. I'm not pointing
out anybody I know. Yeah, it's just I'm talking about myself.
So I'm just saying that when I get up, I
(40:23):
know my first time in the morning is for good.
That's first priority in my life. Then my second priority
is my husband and my daughter, and I have to
do my kitchen, breakfast, whatever I have to do. So
once they are done, they're gone. I have other things
to do. I do all that, and even if I
have to go out or you know, meet somebody, or
(40:44):
I used to drive a lot and sometimes take people
to different places, help newcomers, driving them around. I just said,
I used to go to senior home and help them,
but now I cannot do all that physically, but emotionally
and mentally or maybe spiritually I can do that. I
(41:06):
can release angels sitting in my house, praying for them
whoever they need help for. So this is me how
I act on my faith and how I think I
behave what God has given me. So my timing is allocated.
My God's time is for my God. My family time
(41:27):
is for my family. And when I'm talking about my neighbor,
it could be anybody not necessary next door person or
next door friend, or next door in front of me,
somebody's it's not that mean neighbor. Neighbor means whoever is
next to you. So it could be my colleagues, it
could be my church people, or it could be stranger.
(41:49):
I don't know who is there who needs my help.
So sometime it happens, I would say, Sometimes frequently happens.
I meet stranger and I don't know them, and I'm
just talking and saying hi, Maybe I'm going to throw
the garbage and I meet somebody on the next to
my garbage and we just talked, hi, how are you?
(42:10):
And they start sharing their heart and I felt in
my spirit God wants me to give them peace. God's peace,
and I asked, do you want me to pray for you?
And they sayyah, please please, We are going through this,
this this, we need help, we need prayers. And I
said okay, and then I give them guidance. Also, okay,
apply here, go there, you will find this thing there.
(42:33):
This is the best way to connect. There's so many
ways you can help people. So that is called your
helping your neighbor, loving your neighbor.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
Also yeah, so okay, one last question because we're starting
to run out of time. Time glis when we're talking
about God having fun, right will we If you if
you were to dream of a world that God wants
(43:04):
us to have together, what would it like?
Speaker 7 (43:08):
Love, forgiveness, peace, many peace. We don't have peace now
in the world. Too much is going on around. So
the world is made out of humans. God created all
of us in his image and everybody now is fighting
for something or fighting with something somebody. So because of that,
(43:31):
relationships are gone, bitter distance is there, love is gone,
and everybody is selfish now everybody thinks about themselves. I
need to be rich, I want to be famous, I
want to earn more and whatnot. So that respect or
honor is gone. If there is a mother, children are
(43:52):
not respecting. If there's a father, children are not respecting
or even parents are not respecting children. So that's that
love is gone missing from that relationship. And because that
love is not there, there is no peace either. It's
a home, it's city, state, country, you name it. There
(44:13):
is no peace in the world anymore. So I just
pray for the peace and love of God, and and forgiveness.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
Repentance, Yes, repentance. I think we do need the forgiveness
and we need the repentance. Yes, I agree. So the
name of your business is Supernatural.
Speaker 7 (44:41):
Story is Limited, spur is.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Limited and how and that's also your domain name, right,
Supernatural Spuries. Sorry, your website is supernatural it's.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
Also with the Supernatural Story. No, my website is under
Hannah Rutna because that's the way we had it because
we thought with the Hannah's Dream. But even if you
put Supernatural Stories Limited, it will pop up.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
Yeah, So for everybody out there, if you want to
go find Hannah's book, it is on Amazon, and I
will put a link in the description for Hannah's book
and there it is, and there we go. Based on.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Supernatural Story.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
Yeah, so yeah, it says, based on a true story
All Saints Church and.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
Also in surf a shower in Pakistan.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
Yeah, twenty two September twenty thirteen. That's right, Yes, okay,
I'll say there.
Speaker 7 (45:51):
Are many Hannah's Dream books on Amazon, so that's why
I put the sub title so people recognize. And then
my face is all another reason so people recognize. There
are other books and under the same title Hannah's Dream.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
Yeah, so go buy the book, read the book and
learn more about Hannah and look for the feature film
will come out and as soon as the documentary is
also about what happened that day in Pakistan to those
as God loves loves all of us, so God loved
(46:29):
those people also who who were killed that particular day.
Speaker 9 (46:33):
So so one come back time and time again and
look look for Hannah and look for for more of
her storytelling and the documentaries on what is happening in
our world.
Speaker 7 (46:48):
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (46:51):
So much, Thank you Hannah. It's been wonderful and I
look forward to to see more work.
Speaker 7 (46:57):
Sure, thank you, Thank you so much. Once again.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
The post to.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
The back.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
So I don't know, so I wi you from action, so.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
W this is says.
Speaker 7 (47:53):
Should be like.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Chilas, we can't treser wait.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
So w.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
Can't she go to.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
Stop stuff?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
I know?
Speaker 1 (49:23):
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