It Would Seem As Though Freedom Isn't Free

This week we talk about laws trying to govern identity and sexuality, No one is free until we all are, and we respond to emails.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
H m hm it was Hi. Hi, welcome back to NPR.

(00:24):
Just kidding, Welcome to your favorite ASMR show. Yeah yeah,
they're just fart noises. Well I mean, you know, yeah,
whatever we did tend to part noise is funny. But no.
But if we were like if it was the two
of us saying, here's our ASMR show, and then it
was just parts, it would be kind of silly.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
My whole show would be like can you hear me
flipping you off? Because that's all I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yea, honestly, honestly, my flying my middle finger, and I
hate everyone honestly because today I really kind of do
oh yeah, started out that way. But welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I'm gonna tell you what, when you have teenage children,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
When you have teenage children, girl, they're awful. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I love my children, as everyone knows. But oh my god,
this morning I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I thought you were gonna say as everybody does, and
I was gonna be all, does everybody loved your children?
I love my children, sure you know. And that's the
other thing is I am very realistic about the fact
that I know my children can be assholes. I know
that there are a lot I know that I adore
my children, but not everyone does, and not everybody enjoy

(01:33):
adores their own children well. And I think that hold on.
I also think that it's valid because some people see
and I wouldn't say most of society sees your children
behaving poorly. But girl, like, when there are times that
I'm all and they try to be well behaved for me,
and I'm like, I'll break you out on that, get
away from me, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Like, my children are definitely raised for public. They are
very good in public. They're very well behaved.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, they they're the children who are Everyone was like,
your kids are so twine, they're so so Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
But what's funny to me about that is growing up,
we would get those compliments all the time, and there
were six of us, and people say to my mother,
how do you do it? Your children are so well behaved?
And I remember always thinking, oh, girl, if they could
see us.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
At home or assholes. Yeah, there's always a fight.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
There's always whether it's a verbal fight or a physical fight,
there's always something, yeah, you know, and with six kids,
everybody's shouting over the top of everybody else.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And then you grow up to be loud.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
And it wasn't until I got out of that and
was out of it for a while, and I was like,
oh right, I don't have to be loud anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't have to. I can't actually emodulate. Yeah, I'm
not gonna speak quietly, you know, I don't have to shout.
But then he works in a bar for eight hundred years. Girl,
you work from a loud family to a loud ask profession.
And you were like, well, then doing hair too. And
I didn't just work in the bar I hosted.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
My own was always on the microphone, always talking to people, yeah,
you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
People are getting their hair done and you're blow drying
their hair or whatever, and you're like, watch your doll
last week, you know, or whatever. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's the thing I don't engage when i'm blow dering.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I try to not.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
If they talk, I'm going to try to listen, sure,
but I'm not going to initiate that conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Also said I can't hear well. And also the older
you got where you need assistance with hearing some things
like I'm sure over a blow dryer trying to listen,
you can't see their mouth. You're like right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
So in a perfect situation, yeah, where there isn't low
try your noise and there isn't other people in there chatting, Yeah,
it'd be great.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, but you know there's.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Other people working, and other people get their head in
conversations and noises and too much.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Man, the air conditioner and the radio, I know, the
whole thing. And it's in the door, chining and yeah,
it's a lot, I know, but this morning has been
a lot. I woke up and I washed my face
and I got ready to do this, and then we
went and got coffee and I got in the car
with you and tweetled and tweedled dumb and I said, girl,
how do you do this? Because I'm about to set
your car on fire with us in it? Do you know?

(04:02):
Thank you for doing that? Yeah? Yeah, And I appreciate
that because you know it is a new car. Yeah,
I know, it's not. I do love though that. I
don't love it. It actually drives me from crazy. But
Grace will do something annoying and we'll be like, Grace,
stop whatever, and Park will be like, yeah, you stop it,

(04:24):
you're being or what he'll add on to it, like,
or she's she's always doing that, And I'm like, you're
equally as fucking annoying, do you know what I mean?
Like or or she needs to do that, you also
need to do that. Like you are not by any
means superior to your sister. Okay, and what yes, what

(04:45):
is up with your dog this morning? She's like, is
she training for a race? I don't know. She's screaming
at her father in the back room. Sage enough, So
I'm so sorry you had to help. Yeah, hear me out. Children.
She gets very excitable and she wants to play with
everyone because she's just a puppy. But she's a little big.

(05:06):
But she's bigger than everyone, and she doesn't She's like,
but I'm a biber. I'm like, no, girl, you're gonna
hurt you. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
So my sister Linda sent me a picture of she
was at a friend. Her friend came to visit and
brought their great Dame. No, I did, great Dame, who
was a puppy. It's ten months old than one hundred
and eighty five pounds. No no, no, wait, So how
big is it gonna be? Was full grown seven Clidesdale. Yeah,
it's gonna be eight feet tall.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh, that's not horrified. Well, it's still got about another
year to grow.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, that's uglyod so, I mean it's it's no slowed
way down grows. It's gonna easily be over two hundred pounds.
That's entire How big is loquacious?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
He's yeah, I mean and he's a big dog, but
he's very lean. Yeah. Yeah, but whatever, sweetest boy. I
was gonna say something else. Oh, I know, I have
a welcome back to another episode of It would seem
as that that's my job, I know, but you didn't
do it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I know I didn't do it. The podcast where we
talk about anything, everything and nothing.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, and clearly nothing mostly yeah, not even mostly nothing. Vesta,
I am here, and that's all you're getting from. I
have had it, girl, you know what I've had it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know, I'm going to say one of my favorite
lines that I picked up from drag Races from your
friend Detox.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, which is what she said, you know what I've
had it? Yeah, Yes, I've had it. You would say
things like here's the thing and the thing of it is,
And I love shit like that. It's so funny, like
here's the thing and the thing of it is. Yes.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
One of my other favorites was Kennedy Davenport would always
say I j S, but then tell you what i
JS meant.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, every time, Yeah, I'm just saying, which we hear
you well, then just either say I'm just saying or
I JS or explain I'm just the first time, and
then don't know, old people go, oh, she's saying, I'm
just saying, yeah, I'm j Yeah. I could tell it

(07:11):
wasn't a joke because she didn't say lol. I know
she's so I'm pretty sure she meant that. That's how
we know things are a joke. You have to say
JK or O L or you can say the most
hateful thing you could ever think of it. Let's say lool.
And it's not her fault. You're a stupid timel, tobody
loves you. Everything has been a lie. Yeah. My other

(07:36):
favorite thing really is well, no offense, but and then
so everything that follows that is offensive, and then the
most devastatingly offensive thing ever. Yeah, like you're ugly in
short and nobody loves you and your husband's been cheating
on you, but no offense. So I just wanted to
tell you. So there's this I don't I don't know

(07:58):
how to even explain it.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
But on the on the YouTube's and the tiktoks, Yeah,
these videos where it's random shit in the background, but
then someone's telling a story where it's and it's always
randoms like somebody making things, somebody cooking things, somebody whatever.
But it's little clips, but there's a narrative over the
whole top is and all of these stories to me

(08:23):
so far that I've heard all about somebody getting their
come up, and basically it's like, you know, my parents,
you know, told me I was no longer welcome in
the family.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
And then but they did and I paid.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
All their bills and you know, I now own their
house and and I kicked them out, and you know,
and it made me wonder.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
This very question.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Is there a difference between come up and and revenge?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, let me think, because come up and is deserved.
Come up and says you've done something dumb, crazy, stupid,
out of pocket and now you're getting a Josepher in medicine, right,
that feels like karmic and then revenge revenge is like
an intent. I suppose so, and I think that they're similar,
they're related. Their cousins, right. But I would say revenge

(09:12):
is an intent from one person to another because they
feel like the other person did harm to them or
their family or their blood or their home or what.
Instead of waiting for karma to take yeah, you do
it yourself. Yeah, Instead of waiting revenge would be like
the you're taking the fast track, you know, the fast

(09:32):
pass lane, and then come up and say, wait, waiting
for the energy, the ether, the karma to do it
for you to take the course naturally, That's what That's
how I feel.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I watch all of those a little bit and watch
it's really more listening to, but you know, there's also
weird to going on the background.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
But they all.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Turn out basically the same way. It's like, you know,
somebody fucked.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Me over and it did not work well for them,
you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And I always think, are any of these stories true
or are they all just written for interest?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I do feel that way about anything I hear online anymore.
I'm like, did this really happen to this person or
it didn't happen like at this point, well even that
I know.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was watching a video the other day and I
was like, what am I looking at?

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And then this is gonna sound as bizarre as it
really was.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
It was two hairy naked men like laying in the
ditch and then this being pulled out by a toe rope.
And I was like, what the fuck am I? Because
at first I was like what is that? Yeah, and
then they pulled the gun one and they look like the.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Size of like Suma wrestlers. Yeah, so good guys. And
I was so confused.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And then when they pulled the first guy out and
his legs were on backwards, I was like, so this
is AI and poorly done.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
This is where the AI program is not not But
I was all no, and like so he just put
his legs on backwards. That day I get dressed or
not dressed well. And it's so funny because looking at pictures,
there was recently a crowd that was AI generated for something.
I can't remember what, but of course our little human

(11:13):
brains as we like scan it, it's like, oh, there's
people in the crowd with signs whatever. But then you
just take a beat. Girl. You don't even have to
look that hard. You just look look a little slower,
and the sign, the words and the sign are like hieroglyphics.
Part hieroglyphics apart like Russian and you're like, wait a minute,
those aren't real words, you know, or the person has
six fingers or you know their their body is like misshapen,

(11:38):
like things are wrong. The logo is the Starbucks logo
has like the split tail, ciren has now like fourteen
legs or whatever. Like it gets really wonky, and I
think it's pretty easy to tell often right often, And
then there's times when I'm like, why would people do that?
Why do people want to try and put like past
this off as being real. This is a real interview

(12:01):
for Matt Damon. He does have the devil coming right
up business right when? Uh? When are?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I think it was the latest update from uh Exfinity
or whatever on our TV And maybe it's just our TV.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
But it's where you can create a new screensaver with AI. Yeah,
and I'll say create you know, unicorn in a magical
forest and so you click on that and it gives
you several options. Well, so I picked some because they
were cute. When I'm looking at going, what is that
unicorn have three horns?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
That wouldn't be you? Why?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Why does that one have an extra foot it is.
It is wonky, it is funny, and I'm all I.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Did enjoy like a couple of years ago on like
social media, it was like, oh, upload a picture of
you and turn it into AI whatever, and like, let
AI decide that was fun and asked her and I
did that, and there was like, you know, something looks
really cool, right, But I was also like, it does
it's not that cool, Like I'm never gonna like buy

(13:05):
a print of this, No, no, no, yeah, but you
know how I feel about AI. You gotta be nice
to it everything. But if you're not nice to AI girl,
when the robots take over, you're gonna be on the
chopping block. Yeah. So it's the same reason i'd be
nice to aliens, so when they invade us, they'd be all,
she's a good one. But she was nice to me. Yeah,

(13:27):
you never talked about and she never tried to kill us. No,
I'm a good killer. I have a couple of emails
I want to read today, A couple a couple and
they're length, are we kidding? No? Writing us? Well.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
One is from one of my favorite people in the
whole world, my sister Linda.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, it's from the President saying from the sucker the
president of I don't know what the interwebs saying. You
two are idiots, Get off, Get off the air. Yeah,
your bomb house rights have been revoked. Sorry only for
you too, though you have you have no more civil.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
So some time ago you I know you remember, but
our dear listeners, you probably remember. I was talking about
my sister Darcy, who I said was a marine biologist,
and then moved, and it moved right, but I said,
and then I said, Linda can correct me.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Sure, and she will, and she did and she did.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
I know, I appreciate that, so I said, and I'm
gonna start kind of because the first person is personal,
telling me how much she loves me and how we
need to see each other. And she's been very busy,
and now she's going to Germany. I know, my god,
I didn't even ask me if I could.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Go with her. I had to pay for it and
all those things. But yeah, nobody likes you that much. No,
it says, I've caught up on the episodes. Uh, And
then that's it. That's a whole that's the whole story.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
And I'm ready to give you the corrections you asked for.
Darcy graduated with a degree in oceanography, not marine biology.
Here's a call be the explanation of what that is.
Scientific study of the ocean, encompassing its physics, chemistry, biology,
and geology, as well as interactions between the ocean and
other Earth systems like the atmosphere and seafloor.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
This field is crucial for understanding global climate, marine ecosystems,
and the ocean's resources, using tools such satellites, research vessels,
and underwater vehicles to collect data and conduct research.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So that's what she really was doing, Unlike what I
said marine biology, which I don't.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Know what marine I guess I wouldn't need a description
of that as well. She worked in the oceanography department
at the UW University of Washington, then, through various projects
and work with other departments over time, ended up in
an administrative position with IT and student administration or something

(15:53):
like that. She's now at the University of Arizona and
its chief technical officer, and she's responsible for enabling high
quality digital experiences and support of day to day productivity
and collaboration, learning support systems, digital engagement, administrative services, and
student services.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'll go for her so what I did have right
was that she was in academic. Yeah, I got her name.
The ocean involved someone.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right, the os was involved, and that she did indeed
move to Arizona and bought extra land so she wouldn't
have neighbors.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Cool. I love that, But the rest was alive. The
rest was bullshit.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I made it all up, she said, And she said,
they love it out there, and it's a nice place
to visit.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
But no way could I live like that. No, no, no, no not.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I can't live anywhere where there's like scorpions and rattlesnakes.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
No, that's not even that for me. It's like I
can't live someplace that isn't green anymore. I can't live
someplace that isn't wet half the year and green most
of the time, because I've been there, done that, and
it makes me feel like internally bad.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
You know, it's off to start seeing somewhere that's green from.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, exactly, like you know what's her name? Audrey? Yes,
Audrey in her little squeaky voice, Uh, she said, anyway,
that's enough of that. I love you guys in the pod,
even though I haven't seen you a song. It feels
like I still know what's up in your world. I
find myself repeating things that I learned from you two

(17:18):
all the time. One of my coworkers has a teen
who has told her that they are non binary or
maybe even wanting to transition to a boy, and although
she tries to be supportive, she still struggles with pronouns
and calling them by the wrong name. I recommended that
she listen to you, because you both have such a
no nonsense way of educating. This is my favorite sentence

(17:41):
in the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
She's a little prim and proper, and she may die
of shock after one episode, but at least she'll die
a little smarter.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yes, sounds amazing. Keep it up. I'm very proud of you.
I love you very much. Hugs and kisses to the fam.
Talk soon. Yeah, that's my beautiful, amazing sister. We haven't
seen I haven't seen her since your show you did
last year or two years two years ago, two years ago,
yealls ago. Yeah, because she brought me uh uh sand

(18:11):
and and cemetery dirt from Ireland, right right, right right.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
But now she's going to one of the other you know,
homelands of my people, which is Germany, Yeah, which will
be interesting. I have, I was gonna and I probably
still will look up some information that I can give
her about some of our people and where they were from.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, the vampats, the well the went on to I'm
not sure which which branch. Who cares.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Anyway, they came over in a little little rowboat from Germany.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh my god, so from across the ocean. They were
in a rowboat. So they do a couple. I had
a picture of them on like on the steamship. Oh.
I talked about right, anyway, what's the other And I
love that. Love you girl, kind of see us girl.

(19:10):
She and her wife beautiful. People love them. Yeah, they're great,
and their children are well. The ones i've met are
all really plottiant. They're all great. Well. I believe that
when I meet her. I don't know. I don't know
about it. I don't know. I don't know, y'all. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
So what's interesting is I was talking to someone one
day about Linda and they were and I was saying,
and her wife sewn and blah blah blah, and they said, oh, gay,
your sister's a lesbian. I'm like, no, like wait what
And they go she has a wife. She does not
identify as a lesbian. She's had two husbands and one

(19:44):
wife man and.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
So far the wife.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
By the way, the wife is the champion of the three.
He had to give prizes for winning whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Sean is definitely the best third times charm. But that
goes back to.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
That whole thing we've talked about before where people need
to put someone in a box to feel comfortable. Yeah
you wait, you have a wife, you have to be
a lesbian or at very least you have to be bisexual.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, you know, because because.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We need to have well and we need to have
a little tag to put on you so we know
what you are.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Listen, And that's the thing though, right is part of
the thing about identity is you identifying yourself. But the
other part of identity is people identifying you as you know,
as a person functioning in society. So perception is reality, right,
So if people people aren't going to take the time
to be like, well, she's with a woman now, but

(20:32):
has she been an issue? But you know, people are
gonna make she's lesbian, do you know what I mean? Outwardly,
that's what people think, and who cares what they think?
But my point is is gender and sexuality is also
about how you're perceived. Yeah, what's also interesting. So my stepsister,
which would be her half sister, was real, real angry.
I know you follow it, yeah, because I also have

(20:53):
a very blended fail was real, real.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Angry when she got together with Sean because she was like,
you're not a lesbian.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Why are you with a woman? Is like, why are
you mad about it? Are you mad because you're a lesbian?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You're you mad because you're a drunk and you're confused
about what in the world.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
But whatever, my puppy is just so in love with
her grandmother and it just looks her arm, which is
far better than your cat. When she decided to like
claw my fat ass when we were talking, but whatever,
pop girl, that would have been the worst.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
But you know, talking about specifically queer stuff and queer identity,
it is now to a point I think where there's
so many different ways to identify that that the people
who always been like a little confused are now really confused.
And I think really more than anything, that's why people

(21:53):
are like breaked out. We need to we need to
know the trans people are laws about this because I
don't know what's happening, and I don't like. I also
think if you guys think that there need to be
laws about gender and sexuality, it's just such a waste
of time.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Like what do you mean there needs to be laws
about that? Like it doesn't but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yes, But speaking of the laws about it, they have
passed two laws specifically in Texas. One is the and
I don't know what the numbers are, the bill number
and none of that stuff, I don't know. But one
of them is specifically that if you present in public
other than what it says on your original birth certificate,

(22:33):
then you are trying to what's the word you're.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's fraud.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You're committing from home because that's not who you are,
and you're like creating a public.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
God damn it, I've lost the words. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's very early in the morning and entire but that's
one of them, and you can be jailed or that.
The other one is that bathroom bill. You've got to
have that, which I don't know how you're going to enforce,
because first of all, most trans women you don't you
aren't gonna know they're trans women. And even if you

(23:10):
look in their pants, you're probably not gonna know they're
trans women because you know whatever, and then if they're
carrying their birth certificate, it'll say they're female most likely,
you know.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
So what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
How are you gonna how are you gonna assess this out?
So what they're going to do, I imagine is stop
anybody who might look a little masculine. So you're gonna
get a lot of lesbians and maybe some younger you know,
like newly transitioning folk whatever. But it's like, how are
you gonna do this? And I hope to god it

(23:41):
leads to just lots and lots and lots of lawsuits,
you know, because this is such bullshit and on your
first offense you could be ticketed up to seventy five
hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Girl, this is just like no one wants to go
to Texas, you know what I mean? Like I got
that they're queer people who live there, yes, but this
is gonna like don't you think this does more? Yeah?
But don't you think this is more damaging to Texas?
Like people aren't gonna want to go there because people
don't want to come to America. Yeah, girl, because I
keep seeing these things where people are like, are you
asking foreigners? Or how do you feel about coming to

(24:16):
America right now? They're like, no, it's like going to
the wrong neighborhood. Yeah, right, Why would I go there
when I might not be allowed in because I'm brown
or I might not be you know, yeah, I could
be arrested or supported. And I don't even live there.
What's so crazy is like I wonder how the I mean,
I wonder what it would be like to be you know,

(24:37):
English or German or whatever and be raised in the
old country. Yeah, and then they learned about the United
States and what that feels like, because to me, I
can only imagine that the United States to people who
are not from here, seems like, I mean, and it's
gonna change depending on where you're from. But and you're
probably think, like it's just a large supercenter. W there's

(24:57):
like McDonald's every other store, you know what I mean,
everything's everyone's like unhealthy, and while we do is shop
and eat food, and everything's gross and falling apart, and
we and like our idols are you know, Donald Trump
and gold leafed in the middle of all of it,
you know, wearing like a fucking olive leaf as a
codpiece and you know whatever, Like do they think that

(25:18):
it's like a very awful, dumb down version of like
a super a mall meets like Roman, you know what
I mean? Like, do I feel like that fever dream
they're shooting for? Yeah, well, I feel really like they're
shooting for this.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know, the current government is shooting for this version
of America that never existed. Yeah, you know, like they
but they want to keep saying, well, we want to
make America great again. This they're big thing. Yeah, mostly
what they've made it is embarrassing. But it's like they
want to bring back some of the really oppressive things

(25:55):
that made it great for whom, Like they want to
bring back women not being able to vote, they want.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Women to not work.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
But at the same time they're worried about they're not
being enough people for the workforce. But if you take
out fifty percent of the workforce, then what you've already
sent a whole lot of the people that were in
the workforce to you know, prison camps because they had
the nerve to be brown. Although I'm going to tell
you this, I read this story of this man and

(26:28):
wife who voted for Trump, loved Trump, thought he's fantastic
because they're white, you know, So they're white and they
have money and blah blah blah. Well they went on
vacation and on their way back, his wife, the man's
wife was detained because she though she's a citizen. No,

(26:51):
she's white, but she was from somewhere else and became
a citizen thirty seven years ago. But at some point
along the way had a misdemeanor charge and they were like.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Well, you're you know, a criminal, right, you're an immigrant
and a criminal, And they held her for several hours
without the husband being able to know what was going on,
and then they sent her to a detention center. And now,
because she doesn't have the right according to all this
new shit going on to a speedy trial, she's just

(27:26):
being held with no bail or whatever and she's done nothing. Yeah,
and it's like so now, mister and missus Trump fan
are like, well, wait a minute, this wasn't supposed to
affect us. We're white. Yeah, we also is only supposed
to affect those brown people that cause trouble. We voted
for you, We voted for you. You should be pulling
us out of here, and it's like and that's sorry.
Let me tell you what. Anytime you're a group of

(27:49):
people who think that you turning your back or throwing
others under the bus is going to save you, it
never does. All the gay people who are like LGB
and not into they claim the trans people when they're
done with trans people, bitch, they're coming back for you.
Do you know what I mean? So like when people

(28:11):
are like, oh, well we're white and immigrants, but we
voted for Trump. You get what you get, bitch. You
know what I There are whole states that are now
going the fuck uh huh because one of I guess
I did not know this.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I just learned this this week. The biggest crop export
crop soybeans. Interesting, and our biggest client or you know
who buys the most is China. Well, China has now
said fuck you, we're not buying anything from you because
of all these stupid tariffs and nonsense, and so they're
not gonna buy any of the soybeans, which means there

(28:45):
will be you know, an abundance, an abundance going to waste,
and that these farmers aren't gonna get paid. But these
farmers are already struggling because you have export. You know,
you've jailed so many of the people that work for them, yep,
and most of these people voted for Trump and now
they're going But yeah, well, what will happen? And this is

(29:09):
what I learned in this thing. What will most likely
happen is when these farms start failing, is that they'll
be bought up by multinational corporations and then you and
your family and all of your history is gonna just
be gone.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
And once you get back on your feet, they're not
gonna let you buy it. No, girl, I know you're
just gonna be fucked.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
And you're fucked because you voted for an idiot who
you're like, but God sent him and he's girls the
he's the economy guy. And if he was the economy guy,
wouldn't he have at some point made a success of something?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Well? And that's the thing is that I don't understand. Also,
people listen to him speak or watch him behaved, but
I mean, like how they how do you watch that
or listen to him and think, yeah, he makes sense
because he but like quite literally, based on grammar and
sentence structure and contacts and knowledge, he doesn't ever make sense.

(30:02):
And so the weird part to me is, oh, oh,
we think it's weird that people love him and vote
for him. No, it's it's on point because America is
full of fucking stupid people. We don't we're things aren't. Like, yes,
it is a mandatory that we go to school, right,
but like there is no other mandatory anything, right, there's no,

(30:25):
there's no the first one, they make it near impossible
to get into college and then pay for college, so like,
who's going to learn anything? But this is this, this
experiment of democracy called the United States is I mean,
it just shows you when you dumb down a population enough,
they're going to vote for the person that they know
is anesthetical to the US. Well, and right now some

(30:48):
of the Red States have decided to try this whole
new program at school where if you are sick, you
still have to go to school. That's crazy, and a
doctor's note will not excuse you asence.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You can have like three absences for the entire year,
doesn't matter. Why because you know, everybody's gotten too soft
and they just stay home and blah blah blah, and
we need to toughen them up. They're also making their
school days a little longer by making their lunch break shorter.
Because what they want to do is create this race
of people who are used to like not having enough

(31:23):
time for lunch, not having enough time to do anything
for themselves, so that when they put them in the
factories and the whatever, they're already used to it.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
We have, there's factories in the US again, you know
when where which factories?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
But they're like, their whole idea is we're training them
to break for the workforce because you know.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
This current generation or I don't want to work.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's like and somebody said that to me recently and
I was like, no, I said, what it is is
they don't want to work for nothing. They don't want
to be underpaid, they don't want to be overworked. They
don't want to.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Be told, well, we're a family and family, no we're not.
I work for you. You guys said, so, well, here's
a pizza party, right, give us a look.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I realized that our company made a billion dollars last
year and none of you were getting raises, and some
of you aren't even getting full time or benefits.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But we're gonna give you a pizza. I know. I
hate let me tell you what I hate old people.
And I know it's like a bad thing to say,
but I hate it because I hate people say things
like hmm, well nobody wants to work anymore. No, bitch,
you were indoctrinated and you believed it. You've been sucking
on the tit of America your whole life, and you
believed it. You know what I mean, the creed the
whole Like, pull yourself, you believed it. You can't be

(32:40):
mad at younger generations of people for seeing the stupidity
and horrors around us that capitalism and the structures of
the US have done to us and done to generations
of people. We're waking up to it, and so like,
when oh you're woke, what can mean so many things.
But I'm also like, babe, open your fucking eyes. You've

(33:00):
been taken advantage of your whole life. Here's a good example.
I had a stepfather who worked for UPS for thirty years,
made really good money. Right, he drove long haul truck driving.
He retired, and he did that thing where he had
like so many vacation days left that he took all
of his vacation and just stopped going to work, right,

(33:22):
two weeks after that happened, he died two weeks after
he stopped working. He died because he worked so hard, right,
He worked like twelve hour days, longer days, all the time,
never took vacations, because that's what you're supposed to do.
You're supposed to work hard. And if you don't work
hard and you don't produce anything, your value doesn't exist. Right,
Your value as a person means nothing if you aren't productive.

(33:44):
And that was really ingrained in him, and it killed him. Yea,
and he wasn't even he wasn't that old, but it
fucking killed him. And so I think the whole idea
of like work ethic is bullshit. I do. I really
think people like, oh, your strong work ethic. No, it's
just capitalism. We live in consumers, and we live in

(34:04):
If you don't make enough money, you're on the street.
I mean, you're one medical bill away from being homeless. Like, actually, yeah,
that's a fact. These are real. This is reality. And
so I just really have a hard time with the
whole Nobody wants to work anymore. And when I was
working at Starbucks, actually used to piss me off because
I was a part of the management team to hear
other management say it all now, you dumb bitch. There's pandemic,

(34:28):
there's wildfires, there's global protests. Like people are waking up
to the fact that we've been treated like shit. And
it's about prioritizing.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, where people are like, yeah, I need to work,
I need to pay my bills, but at what costs?
I don't need to work, you know, twelve hours and
get paid for eight No, or I don't need to
which is you know why I you know, we talked
about before the whole thing quiet quitting, which is really
just I'm paid for eight hours, I'm gonna work for

(34:59):
eight hours. I'm not going to respond to your emails
on my off time. I'm not going to and it's
for my phone.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Well, it's also not going above and beyond the call
of duty, right, It's like at work, you're going to
do your job requirements and you're not going to go
above and beyond because you're not getting paid enough to
go above and beyond. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
So a perfect example of that for me is when
my husband worked for the Humane Society and he worked
in the one of the jobs. He worked in several jobs,
but one of them was He worked in reception, where
he would direct phone calls, but he also gave like
if people called and said, you know, my neighbor's horse

(35:34):
is being abused, who do I call?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
And he would go, well, here's that resource, here's ghostbusters.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Well, half the resources they needed they didn't have, And
so that he took it upon himself to create a
book of resources that nobody gave a shit about.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
They didn't go, wow, you did all this on your own.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
We're going to reward you with your money or with
a bonus or whatever any care. And one of his
coworkers who often worked with him when the phones weren't ringing,
he was playing video games because they didn't care. And
nobody ever said anything. And my husband was doing like

(36:11):
things like creating these resources and doing all of this stuff,
and was always doing something and it never got him anywhere. No,
his boss, who was horrible, didn't go, you know what
I see you. I see that you're doing all of
his stuff above and beyond.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
No, I don't care. No, she didn't. She didn't care.
So like his little coworker in his room did the
I mean to me in my eyes, like did the
right thing, just like they were doing that what I'm
paid to do. Answer the phone. It's the minute I
have to do. I will tell you that same boss
he hated me, and he was yeah he believed, but

(36:51):
she hated me because being a strong woman who speaks
their mind and doesn't need you know, your approval anybody.
I was like, I'm just and I'm whatever. Yeah, and yeah,
a lot of people find that threatening, which I think
is bizarre. Yeah, you're just justna be quiet and meek, so
shut the fuck up. They get back in the kitchen.
But if you're a woman who.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Is in a position of power, but you don't own
your power, and you are mad at people who do.
But it's like that thing we've talked about many times
where people don't like it when other people are too.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Proud or too Yeah, well I'm not, so you can't
how Dario, I've been miserable for the last forty seven years.
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
It's like it's funny to me and I'm going to
talk about my own specific stuff. Fat people, yeah, often
don't like to see other fat people. Yeah, being happy,
and we've talked about this, Yeah, comfortable, you know, wearing
things even though like they're like I know, you're fat,
you should be covered in a tent, like, don't wear
a crop top or short shorts.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Like, first of all, shut the fuck up, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I was at a party one time and it was
a young lady and young it's probably in her early twenties,
big girl, and was wearing like what folks of my
generation called daisy dukes, and they might still I don't know,
short shorts, short jeans, shorts.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
And like a little you know, a little belly shirt
kind of. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
My friend, who's also a big girl my age, was horrified, Yeah,
because she's all, yeah, I get this body positivity thing, but.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
But I don't want to see her fat. But yeah,
but why do you care? Yeah, girl, get off it.
You know. If if it's not for you, then don't
dress like that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know, and if it bothers, you don't look at
you need to look.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Inward and see why I have. But it's like we've
talked about it. Any kind of yeah, any kind of
you know, where it's your own misogyny, on your own fat.
Why does looking at something make you uncomfortable? I think
you should ask that question, no matter, what did make
you uncomfortable when you saw the guy jerking off at
the bus bitch, you know not. Yes, I want you

(39:02):
to know I'm not as uncomfortable as I thought it would. Well,
I've seen that how many's. I'm seen a due jerking
off on a bus outside many a time. I've lived
in major cities, girls. But to see this old black
man sitting on a bus bunch facing one twenty second,
which is a very busy street, just with his pants
down to like his thighs and him just jerking his chicken,
I was like, Oh, that wasn't what I expected at

(39:24):
seven thirty in the morning. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
My discomforting other people generally is things like them being stupid,
or them being ignorant, or them being racist.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah you know in a place where that shouldn't happen. Well, yes,
And I think I get uncomfortable often, but I don't.
And I know where my discomfort comes from. Right When
I see people walking around wearing Americana, I'm like, oh,
they're a racist pigot. Or I see someone wearing a
red hat and I don't realize that it's not a
maga hat. I'm instantly like, oh, I'm going to have
to fight, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like un but yeah, I know for me, I'm not.
I'm not saying anything to anyone else about it.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
No, if I'm in the car with you and we
see somebody drive by in their big truck with the
flags all over it, I'm definitely gonna say to you,
you know whatever, grenade and then I kill them. But
then I move on with it. Yeah, like that're fine,
and then I don't make it anyone else's problem.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
But you know, I don't understand the and I'll never
understand the You know, I have a problem because you
are too queer or you are to whatever, and you
want to you know, be obvious about it.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Well, and here's here's what I think is odd. I
think the difference is when people see queer people or
things they don't like and instantly feel like it needs
to die. It's because what they're seeing is based in
something like femininity or something anesthetical to being American or
a man or whatever. But like when we see something
and we're like, oh God, that should die, it's because

(40:59):
that thing has rooted in violence oppression. Yeah, And like
so I see a Nazi and am all kill it.
I see a maga freaking and all kill it, and
I don't like it, don't maybe actually, but do we
not remember January sixth, right, Like, do we not remember
how violent these people can be, right, and the history
of what people in charge who look like them and

(41:19):
what they've done. So when people look at queer people
and say, oh, kill it, it's because they're uncomfortable with
their identity and their relationship to like queerness or femininity
or marginalization. But well, and I know one of the
things you and I have talked about before is.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
That whole masculine idea of how on earth would you,
as a man, give up any monica of your power
by trying.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
To be like a woman. So that's why gay men
trans women, you know, it's like.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
You are willingly giving up your man power, your mom
wear makeup or address or or have a transition whatever.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
You had this you are male bodied, and you changed
everything about you, but especially you gave away your power.
You don't deserve to live.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I saw an interesting thing the other day was a
trans woman talking about pre transition, and she said, you know,
pre transition, I never had any fear walking down the
street ever.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Because what was I afraid of? But post transition, now
I'm if there's.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Other people, I'm aware, I'm cautious, I'm therapist because as
a woman and as a trans woman, there's so much
more to fear, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, well, and I think also nowadays, again, the more
something is talked about as a society, the more people
are aware of it. So I think ten years ago,
like trans topics were not the top conversation. Maybe let's
go back further. Fifteen years ago, things were not topic
of conversation. There were a couple of transit we all
knew about, but that was kind of it, like in

(43:03):
the mainstream. But and so like, I think that goes
back to people who are like passable, people who were
trans women who quote unquote past is like cis tendered
women like could travel to small towns. No one's gonna
bad eye them. They're gonna think they're women, you know
what I mean. Now, it's it's it's like being a
witch back in the day. You show up anywhere and

(43:25):
you're too put together, you're too pretty. Oh, you're too masculine, know,
you're too nice, you know what I mean. It's like
you show up as a trans woman and no matter
if anything can talk you as a trans woman. At
this point, people are like, oh my god, you're dressed
way too you're put together, you're too nice, you're too mean,
you're too tall, you're too you know what I mean,
like all the things that people like, Oh, it makes
you a trans woman. And it's like maybe that that

(43:48):
bit just plays basketball, you know what I mean? That family,
But the assumptions are also can lean to violence and death.
Like there was a woman who I was watching it they.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Talk about this very topic and she's a gender woman,
but she's a pro basketball and she's six foot four,
So automatically people are gonna go, well, that has to
be a man. Yeah, because she's tall and she's muscular,
and she's very talented at what she does.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
So you can't be talented at basketball.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Unless you're a So that's you know, there's your bread.
Yeah why And okay, let's.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Say for a second that she wasn't gender. Yeah, who cares?
Who fucking care? Girl? Too many people And that's the
that's too many fucking people. I know, girl, y'all need
to get a life. That's how you say. And I
need you to know if you hear anybody say anything
about trans things and it's strogatory, correct that ship stop them,

(44:54):
because I want you to know that is right now,
that is the litmus test that is okay. So if
we take out trans people because no one's going to
stop us, who cares about trans people, the next people
are going to be more immigrants, black people, gay people,
bisexual whatever. Right, if it's the whole I said nothing
and then they came for me, right so, and it

(45:17):
also if you're a marginalized person, if you're a queer person,
a black person, indigenous, whatever, y'all need to also say
not on my watch because if like the cohort of
trans falls, bitch, then again they're coming for you next,
and they're coming for all of us simultaneously. But but
like that's why, like the fight of a black man

(45:38):
and a black woman is also going to be my fight.
The fight of of of a Latina woman or the
children at the border, that's also my fight. The fight
of like the palace and women being bombed, that's my fight,
do you know what I mean? That's why feminism today
and like intersectional feminism, it matters because we I look
at these brown women and these religious women and these
insis gender, these transmen lesbians that maybe we don't have

(46:00):
things in common, but you're a woman and you're being oppressed,
and that is like the through line, right, Yeah, that
is the connection. And so like, no women are free
until we are all free. And for me, it's beyond that.
It's no one's going to be free until we all
can be free. And there's lots of shit going on
in the world, but no marginalized person, if I'm around,
is going to have to stand alone, do you know

(46:21):
what I mean? And I feel like everyone should feel
that way. Look what this nation is doing to everybody.
Fucking fight back.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, which is one of the things I thought was
so great during some of the different marches, like the
one for George Floyd. Yeah, the Women's Day thing, when
it's like all these different people, I mean, clearly the
George Floyd Black Lives Matter. You know, you saw all
these white faces there. Typically one would think, well, that's

(46:47):
not their fight, but it is. But it is their fight.
But it has to be their fight because if you
only have black people showing up for black fights or
black then it's going to be easy for white people
to dismiss. But you throw a bunch of white people
and They're like, well, hang on, what is it? Because
why are there white people in there?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
And it's you know, separate and destroy? What is that?
You know? Yeah? What is the term? I can't think,
but you know, it's like separating people and then taking
them down. When they're separated, it's easier than right if yeah,
if they're fighting together. Yeah, there absolutely so yeah, yeah, yeah,
So listen. I got an email okay from a man

(47:30):
named Ken Krell. Ken Krell, okay, And this was a
little while ago, but we've been kind of going.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Back and forth, uh, emailing, and so I'm gonna read
this to you and then I'm gonna tell you kind
of where that has led the conversation.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Okay, says hey, best that's me. By the way, Oh
my god, caught your latest episode.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Had to laugh at the part where you broke down
the stupid ship in the news after talking about losing
a pet and battling the general public. I was nodding along.
Pet loss is a gut punch, and I've definitely had
my share of bizarre run ins. Working with every time
zone cafe and airport. Working in every time zone cafe
and airport imaginable. I'm Ken Krell, founder of Pride Nomad,

(48:15):
Scene with Love Foundation, and publisher of a few too
Honest newsletters for queer travelers and tired terrors. I spent
the last sixteen years living and working everywhere but home Sydney,
La Buenos Aires.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Building platforms help LGBTQ plus folk create lives and income
that let them be seen wherever the map puts them.
And it made me realize you can escape burnout at
war bureaucracy, but you still bring yourself and your inbox
wherever you go. The story I'd like to bring.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
How leaving the US in two thousand and forced me
to figure out how to stay proudly queer, fiercely present
and connected even when I barely spoke the language or
the local news that I shouldn't exist at all. Now
I get to reach thousands each week through my letters
and podcasts and help others make real location independence possible

(49:19):
without losing their sense of humor or self.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
The audience.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Your audience seems like they'd appreciate the misadventures and survival
strategies that come with building a chosen family and business abroad.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Thanks for what you do.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Your episodes are a reminder we're all a little weird,
but never really alone.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
PS.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
A reader once told me, I never knew you could
feel so at home in a city where no one
knows your name as the Borderless Magic. I think your
listeners would love Yeah. Yeah, so and he has different website.
One is called my Daily Hug dot com, Islands Probabe
nomad dot com.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Okay, anyway, so oftentimes I get emails that are, hey,
you know what we can boost your listenership blah blah.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
We have all these things. You'll pass lots of money
and I'll be into your audience. And because we are
just our little selves doing this for our own enjoyment
and hopefully a few other people enjoy it, and that's great,
we can't afford to like thousands of dollars to get

(50:29):
people to listen to us and whatever. So I texted
him our email to Jack, and I said, just out
of curiosity, is this are you trying to sell me
a service?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Or do you want to be a guest on our show?
Because I read it and I'm not actually sure.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
And he said he would like to be a guest
on our show. So I thought that sounds awesome, So
obviously that would be via the computer.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Okay, so we just have to fear out how that. Yeah,
because we're we're really good. Yeah, we're smart tech stuff
and we're really good at teching and we check around
and I'm always like, technically teching. So I think that
we could technically teck and blue screen of Dad, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But yeah, oh my god, I'm gonna have a little
zoom call with him.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Oh my in the world. Here in the world is
Ken crawl? Yes? Where is he now? Yeah, it'll be
fun having voice on here. Yeah. I want to be
a guest on someone's podcast. Someone. Yeah, someone asked me
someone Madison. I would yes, tes madisone, you were my god,

(51:50):
what is it called? What does her new one called her? Outlaws?
The Outlaws podcast? Girl, she's had everyone on that. Yeah,
I love her. Or I would love to do that.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I would love to be the guest on someone's podcast.
I actually send a message a long time ago to
the women that.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Do I've had it.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I've had it, like I would love to. You know,
we have our own little podcast.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
You know, very little, very daughter. We would yeah right,
they're very big, they said, know you. They're like, yeah,
that has for listeners. You know, we can't. We can't

(52:36):
with your thing, you know, and it's like moving the
table there. You know.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
They have a whole crew, producers and directors and tech people.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I would love maybe we should hire a person, just
a person something. We're not sure what your job is,
but we're hiring you to be a person. I'm hiring
you to you know, record us and market us and
mark there.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, but then we have to pay them, and nobody
wants to work.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
It's in like the long game. We'll pay you when
we start getting paid there you go.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
That would indentivize them to actually yeah, the hard Yeah,
I'm going to buy you some bootstraps.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
So you can pull yourself, yes, bitch, but don't forget
to take us with you. Thank y'all? Right, right, because
we want to be upwardly mobile and I just, oh
my god, yes, mobile mobility is my favorite thing. I
love moving. Yeah, no, no, I mean you know what
I love napping. Napping sounds good, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
And you know we've talked about multiple times on here,
the stuff that I'm going through, and.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
You know you're also with my mother. Yeah, but I
do want to.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Share because in all of this stuff, there's always something
little funny. You know, there's those moments that you have
to laugh at otherwise.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
You're just gonna cry. Yeah, But so like this is
a perfect example. Today.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I took her to the emergency room because stuff was
just going away again. And at the end of our visit,
when the doctor comes in and she's saying, you know,
you're fine, everything checked out, Okay, it's you know, just
more stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
To having to do with the dementia. But then she
looks at my mother and says, and referring to me, says,
and who is this with you? And my mother goes, oh,
that's my mother. I'm one hundred and seven. Yeah, you
like amazing, my skin is so and also you're one
hundred and seven. You didn't look much like Grandma Margaret. No,

(54:40):
you guys don't look like that.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
What's funny is my mother's mother, who I adored by
the way. She was a cross, but she was also
not a white lady. Yeah, and she was looked.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
She was wrinkled like one of those apple dolls from
the time she was here forty Yeah, an area wrinkling. Yeah.
But she was also much much smaller. She was short, tiny, yeah.
Ever dark dark, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
The whole thing, and I'm like, I don't even resemble her,
although I do get that for all intents and purposes
right now, I kind of am.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
You know, I take care of her, you are her mom,
rest or, I feed her, you know, all these things whatever.
But it was like, uh nope, and not like.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
The doctor looked at me, was like, oh sure, wow,
you look great for having eighty five years old.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah, crazy, I know, but at that very moment, it's like,
what do you do but laugh? I mean, yeah, what
are you gonna because that was so just ridiculous. You
put her over your knee and you spank its like
I'm your mama now. Yeah, no more electronic babies that
are for you. Okay, Well what about yesterday when you

(55:50):
were like, I have to go to work, we come
hang out with her until your uncle comes to get her.
And I said sure, And it was just an hour,
hour and a half whatever, but hanging out. But right
when I get there, you're still home and you're like, well,
you took her to your room and help her get dressed,
and I'm looking at her. She's wearing a jacket and jeans. No, no,
she's not wearing anything else under that jacket, not a bra,

(56:12):
not a shirt. And I'm like, oh, yep, right, which
she just revealed to me moments before you got there. Yeah,
I don't have time. So I was like, all right, Graham,
let's go. But yeah, she just I don't know. That
morning it was like I'm cold, I'm going to put
on my flannel coat. And so that part of it
apparently made sense totally, the fact that nothing else to
the bra and yeah, I know, well, and she wanted

(56:35):
to put in it was so because she wanted to
put her bra on just like over her jacket, Like ma'am,
you need to get you need to take it off, right.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
This executive function is because the other day when I
was trying to help her get dressed, because now it
is to help her get undressed.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I help her get dress, but she was like talking.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
About she ate underpants, and she says to me, well,
I take my pants offers.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, girl, Madonna. Yeah, if you're gonna wear your underpants
over your pa, what are we doing? Is it the
Vogue video? Do? Come on?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
But yeah, if you have a cone bra on, old panties, yes,
where and you maybe started old people trying I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
I know sometimes she is very goofy and I and
just right when I walked in and was like, you
are you're Sla Jezebel. And usually when you say someff
like that. She just last yesterday, I think she was like,
she was like, oh no, I know, how dare you?
And I was like, well, in this house of ill
repio right, well, I know she's walking around, just standing

(57:40):
in front of the windows, shaking her titties for the neighbors.
I'm like, girl, get in there, put your clothes on. Well,
she was shaking, but not know, she's shaking like a chihuahua. Right,
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
So well, you know you can now we can look
forward to the fact that we're gonna have a special
guest in our podcast. I'm not sure when because I
have to actually get together with him. I said, I've
been emailing back and forth, and so that'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It will be fun. It will be fun. And so
it's been a while since we've had a special guy. Yeah,
it has.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
It's been quite a while. And so that'll be you know,
new and fun and exciting for us. Since also someone
we don't personally know.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
That until he comes on here and starts saying things
like I love Donald Trump. I can't imagine that happening.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
I'm just saying, we don't know the trick wrote to
me and pretend's quers get on here and be like
I know, and I'll be like, I just kidding.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
That's not going to happen. No, but you know, you know,
people do often represent themselves as something other than yeah girl,
But I do believe Ken Krall can crawl. You know,
I have looked at his website. Meant, I just googled him.
I googled you can I Google. I didn't realize.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I mean, I did read this, and I didn't remember
they had a podcast because I was looking for that
so I could listen to it.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
But I have seen his websites, so too legit to QUI. Okay, well,
I'm tired people send this email. You should send this
an email. Yeah, like, tell us what you think, tell.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Us what you want here, tell us what you want
to talk about, or correct me if I said something stupid.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You know what, don't correct me though. If I say
something stupid or wrong, you better just let it go.
It's now write it down in the books because it's true. Yeah,
like I said, it's money. It's true because she's never mistaken,
never ever one not not ever in her life. Yeah,
because she's practically perfect in every way. Her and Mary Poppin.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, all right, before we go and I know we're
supposed to go in, but.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I watched Mary Poppins the other day, the remake, the original,
well the remake after, not the remake. It it's actually
not remakes, it's sequel.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
But Mary Poppins is like somebody's acid tripe. I think
whoever wrote it was like so fucking high and they
thought this all makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Nothing about that movie makes sense. Well, I feel like
the fact that you really just come from like vignette
to vignette. It's not a follow through story.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Like when they go to the uncle's house and he's
on the ceiling because he can't stop laughing and the
laughing has made him high and he's literally bouncing off
the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
That's there. It's a fever dream. Get it back down.
I feel like all those Disney movies where it's like
part animation part live action for that time period are
all fever dreams. I think bed Dubs and Broomsticks is
kind of a favorite dream. Maybe not Disney, but that
same kind of part animated is that. Yeah. I always
thought they were super weird. The one that I think
slapped the best was Roger Rabbit. Yeah, not Disney, I know,

(01:00:43):
but still better although it is I guess. I was like,
I bought Jessica Rabbit pins baby, yes from Disney. Yeah,
I guess so. I think when it came out of
it because there's a Roger Rabbit ride in Disney. So
she's y'all, don't come on our podcasts, which as a liar,
she's gonna lie to your face. One more movie thing
I want to mention.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I was love time to watch and I saw this
thing is that the movie is called You Hurt My
feelings with Julia Louis Dreyfus hate her and in a
little it's like ouboriously funny comedy blobby.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
That's likely funny that I need uproar. I know, no
single there was nothing funny about it, not a single
war roar. There was not a single uproar. I did
not laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I thought it was a good movie, but it was
more like just kind of everyday family drama kind of stuff,
and I was like, there's not much uproar.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Hello, Wow, I'm laughing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
And then yesterday I told you I was watching the
other Julia Luis Dreyfus, a movie called Tuesday, which is
about death.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah, and I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
What happens when death does not do its job, things
go alright, go quite a right. It's very very weird
and it is also like it's also something when they
wrote that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
But you know whatever, all right, so we're gonna get
the yeah I need to do she needs. It's late
or early in the summer, and you had to deal
with my children. Girl never got her whole day is rude, Yes,
but you know that we're getting the fun about it here. Yeah,
we'll talk to you later. My it was