It Would Seem As Though History Is Repeating

This week we talk about American history, the republicans trying to drag us back to the 50s, and the obsession with trans women.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
It was hi, Hi, Hi, Yeah, good morning. It's not
gonna be one hundred degrees again today, isn't it. So
every day the weather apples.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Say it's going to be cooler or hotter tomorrow, and
it said cooler today, But yes, there was one hundred degrees.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
So what is cooler mean ninety five? Yeah, so I
know it was one hundred for the last two days. Yeah,
And oh my god, listen, I know that if you
live somewhere where it's like you have real long hot summer,
that you have the zero sympathy for us. I get that, sure,
But when we, you know, signed up for Oregon, yeah,
it was you have four seasons when our relatives were

(01:01):
on the Oregon Trail. You know the funny thing about that,
And I've said this a bazillion times, but my relatives
my the van paton side of my room. Yeah, you know,
it's like they took the boat across from the from
the Old Country to the New Country, and we're like, okay,
we hated that. And until you get some better mode

(01:22):
of transaction, we're going nowhere. I'm not taking a wagon.
Generations of my family then lived in New York. I
love it. Wasn't until train travel. Yeah, they started coming west.
They were fine, I can do it now, yeah, okay,
does it have a club car right, because they were like,
I'm sorry, my friends are taking this wagon thingy a
wagon and walking across the But because a lot of

(01:46):
people just walked, yeah, which is oftentimes crazy. When there
was wagons, there was like the food and all your
supplies and stuff and the babies, yeah got to be
in the wagon. But everybody else pretty much walked. And
I'm sorry, but if it was like I'm walking across
the field, okay, but I am not walking from you know,
like New York to Oregon, Oregon. Yeah. Also what I'm

(02:10):
not walking from New York to New Jersey. Yeah. Girl.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
And they didn't have like a fitbit. They couldn't even
track how many steps they took. So they were doing
all that for free.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And here's something I did. This is ish off topic,
but not that long ago. I started rewatching Little House
on the Prairie. Yeah, and Little House on the Prairie
is definitely from my youth, you know, it was. It
was on my early teen years through my early adult years. Well,

(02:39):
I don't remember. I didn't remember the very first like
the pilot episode. And then the pilot episode, the Ingles
family is, you know, making their way across the prairie. Well,
Paw and the babies are in the wagon, sure, Maw
and the bigger kids are walking most of the time. We

(03:00):
have a dog and a little tiny dog like the
size of your dog's probably sure, and they wouldn't let
it ride in the wagon. They made that fucking dog
walk and the dog gets like at one point swept
up in the river, and pil Ingles is like, well,
what's just a dog? I was all, I hate you,
Charles Ingles, Yeah, I hate you. I couldn't let that

(03:22):
teeny little dog. Who what's he gonna do take up
you know he weighs five ounces? Yeah, right, little spot
in the corner and bark at the envelope or whatever.
I was like, I know, hate Yeah, that's awful. But
it was the same pilot. They went and lived somewhere
that was, of course, like everything was. It was on

(03:45):
indigenous land, and at one point they hear that they
have to move because the government has decided also magnanimously,
to give this land back to the indigenous. Oh my god.
And of course they're all upset because they just built
this little rickety rackety house. But Laura, who's little at
this point, goes good, they should have their living. Then

(04:08):
I found out later that Laura Ingalls Wilder actually was
that way in real life. Yes, in real life. Wait,
is Laura Ingalls Wilder a real person or an actress? Wrote? No,
she bake the Little House books? Okay and okay, so
she was a real person. So these are all based
on real people. I didn't know. Now, of course, the
the series takes all kinds of twists, not based on

(04:30):
real people, but the books are. But the books are
about my family, and there I didn't know. I didn't know.
I thought it was just all fiction. No crazy. Now
I'm more interested. Well, I've read I've only read the
original first book, and I understand there's a bunch okay,
But Laura Ingles Wilder, if you look her up, I mean,
obviously there's problematic stuff because of her time here, but

(04:53):
she was about folks having rights. And yeah, sorry, Mike
cow House arets screaming at something. Well, I think the
problem tell me, Well, I'm gonna say it's mostly your
fault because your husband built this couch. It hides them
from us what we're doing. The back of the couch

(05:14):
is a little more than I was probably as I'm
sitting to the top of my head. So it's a
very high backed couch and they're small dogs. They are
over there, like where did our people? I hear them
knock it off over there.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, that's crazy to me. I again, I didn't know
that about Little House on the Prairie. I thought it
was all fiction. I've never watched it. I've never read it.
I've never I never was interested, right because as a youth,
I was like country people.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I live that, you know. I mean, I don't want
to watch it, but that is interesting. I like I
like that my microphone stopped working. Oh my god, oh
my microphone turned itself off. I was on was so yeah,

(06:02):
everything is now ruined. I'm hoping, well everything is ruined. Thankfully,
we're only six minutes in when I realized my America
because I was doing the tests on it. Yeah, it
worked and everything. So if the first six minutes you
couldn't hear, well, sorry about it, but we're not editing it.
That's that would take some skills that we just don't have, yeah,
or don't want to learn, you know, basically that's a well,

(06:24):
mostly the problem is dumb, right, Okay, speaking of that,
I'm dumb.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
No, I'm reading this book, which I have told lots
of people to read. So there is a book called
The People's History of the United States of America and
it's written by Howard Zinn.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right. It's a really.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Dense book and it talks about like from fourteen ninety
two when Europeans showed up here and on, and it's
basically defunking all the myths you learn, right, and Howard,
that book is phenomenal. Every single person should read it.
But from that other people have created there's like the
Indigenous People's History of the United States. There's the Queer
People's History of the Units, like, there's lots.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Of different ones.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, I'm reading the Indigenous People's History of the United
States right now and it's really fantastic. But one thing
that I think this this kind of goes with like
the Oregon Trail going on to indigenous land kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
But that's always.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
How we're taught about Europeans coming here was kind of
how you know, like oh, there was a land.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
For people and there weren't really people here.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Right, like it was just wilderness, right, which is so
funny to me. And here's several things. The indigenous populations
had commerce, they had governments, They had roads, right, they
had trade routes like coming to the coming to this
nation pre the United States. It wasn't like an overgrown
jungle of land. There were roads. Granted they weren't pavement,

(07:49):
but there were roads. And again trade and education and
hygiene and all of these things. How how to be
a steward of the land without like harming it, all
these things.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But we're taught that.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Myth that Europeans showed up to this place that was
just wild and unrulely civilized it. Yeah, which reading this book,
the author says, if Europeans had actually showed up to
the United States.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Or to this land and there was no.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Like stewarding of the land to create roads and food
groves and shit, they wouldn't have made it. They all
either would have turned around and left or died. But
because the indigenous people had set down this foundation, were
actively you know, using different types of currency. You're learning
road routes and having relations with other people and farming

(08:38):
and not only farming, not how we think of agriculture
they were creating just like planting food forests, right, So
you'd walk through and there were fruit trees and nut
trees and there was like things growing on the forest floor,
like so all of that was there, and so when
Europeans showed up here, it was already kind of like
there's this blueprint of what the indigenous people put. We

(09:00):
don't learn that shit. We learned they had their lives,
they had community, and they did trade, but we don't
learn it was as expansive as it is. So I
do think that's important to remember that if Europeans had
shown up here and it was as wild and savage
and crazy as it was, they would have died and
they wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Have made it. Well. Right now, I am reading Black
af History, okay love, and it starts out, of course,
you know, with different histories, but then when it gets
to the history of this country, it talks about that
very thing, but it also talks about how the indigenous
folks did actually show the colonizers how to grow things

(09:37):
and what to grow and when to grow and they
were like, okay, so we should grow like forty socks
of corn. Yeah, there's forty of us it's like, no, dumbass,
you need to grow you know, ten times what you
think you need, and you need to grow. But you
need to grow corn in this field because that's the
one that is already prepared for that. And you need

(09:59):
to grow other things. But you also need to grow
winter crops, and you need to grow things that are
going to be state that are going to be like
shelf stable. Yeah, you know, because they of worse didn't
have n't know they were, but they knew how to
make things last for yeah. Yeah. One of the things
and this one I actually read about Angelelouse on the
very funny enough was how to that they uh turn

(10:23):
meat into jerky because jerky lasts for a very long time,
and then they would create places like meat lockers. Basically
crazy about it. But it was like this was all
done before we had any of the modern amenities. And
if the if the indigenous people had not helped the colonizers, yes,
they would have all died. Well.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And thing about what Europe looked like by at fourteen
eighty two, you know what I mean, like plagues, people
were throwing pistons.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
It was successible.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, people were throwing piston shit literally out of windows, right,
like that was how you did.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It or just going in the street.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, people were dirty, people had like diseases, people had
sexually transmitted dise is like it was a disaster place
to live.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But it was also a very very polluted yes, right,
which it feels surprising to me because you're like, well
that many years ago it must have been you know,
like green and cleaning whatever, but it was not because
all of their heat and whatever was all from coal,
and so the air was black and people were like

(11:25):
it had soot on all the clothes and whatever. But
they also, as you mentioned, had horrible hygiene, yes, And
then there was like no systems of like plumbing or whatever,
and people weren't going, well, we should at least create
like a ditch to get stuff to flow away from
the houses.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And because of that, nobody knew German theory, right, So
nobody knew that living around piss and shit and squalor
was going to make you sick. People didn't understand that,
which is like hard for me to fathom that people
didn't understand that dirty wasn't going to make you Like,
that's weird, but of course it was just people didn't
understand science the same way. But you and I talked
about not that long ago about the Palace of Versailles,

(12:05):
which is in Fromes, right, beautiful, gigantic.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Nobody lives there. It's like a like a state property.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
People go and visit, but there's no bathrooms, right, traditionally,
I mean again, there's probably like now houses where they
built like the little men's women's bathrooms whatever, but there
were there are traditionally no bathrooms in the Palace of Versailles.
So there were pots and pans essentially they were made
for this specifically chambers, yeah, but in corners of rooms

(12:31):
where women would just go hike up their dresses and
do that. And like so the whole place, this stunning
gilded wallpapered, you know, and embellished palace smells like an outhouse.
And imagine parties during the summer, right, Like you would
have to go outside and spend all the time in
the gardens to get away from it. I And that's

(12:52):
the crazy thing you had. People were like opulent and
had jewels and gold and you're disgusting, right, It's just
so weird to me that you thought, especially Europeans at
a certain time, were really arrogant. You know, I thought
that they knew more, but you left your fucking shitty
place because it was disgusting and you all were.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Gross, you know, right exactly. You know, it's and it's
crazy to me. A while back when I one of
the books that I read, and it was a piece
of fiction, but it had it also dealt with real
life people, a fictionalized version, but it talked about you know,
France and London and the bigger cities you know in Europe. Yeah,

(13:37):
had that time period and how they were just gross
and how they were so dirty, and that the people,
you know, the people who lived out in the country
had you know, the clean air and the whatever. So
it was the city dwellers who were gross.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And I'm sure as a country person, people were just
going outside digging.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Holes or just what are you looking at? Crazy shit?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
You know, I'm sure if you were in the country,
people were just going and peeing outside, you know, going
doing their business outside. But I mean I get it
in the city to go and see, I don't where
there where they're what is it called my morality laws?
Like you know, publican decency, right, So I don't know
if like you know, pissing or shitting on the street

(14:23):
was like morally unacceptable just because of people were throwing
their chamber pots directly outside. Like I don't know, but yeah,
in the country, I'm sure they were cleaner. You know,
the people got into running water more often than people
in the city because there's streams.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it's yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I as a youth, as a little kid growing up
in the country, I really romanticized and idealized the.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
City and thought, that is what I want, that's what
I need. I want the hustle, the bustle, all absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
And then I lived in cities, and then I lived
to Portland. Portland to me is a very different city
though We're a city in the middle of a forest.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Everywhere you look.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
You can see trees every single place you look at
you and they're massive, right. But then San Francisco, in
La I was very much like, maybe this isn't for me,
you know, living in a city because it's.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Too much concrete. It was just so much.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I've told the story a million times, but you know,
living in San Francisco and feeling so out of touch
with just the vibe of the world, I don't like
the energy, but going to Berkeley and taking my shoes
off and like standing in grass and then laying in it,
and I just like silently cried. And it wasn't like sad,
but it was like overwhelming. I hadn't touched in nature,
you know, and growing up here or even in the country,

(15:39):
nature's you're engulfed by it.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
So it really fucked me up. So now I don't
want to live.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Portland is as city as I want to get. And
I know Portland's a city, it's growing in all of that,
but it's really if you've never been here, look at pictures,
like because it is kind of hard to see most
of the buildings through the trees, Like especially from a distance,
you see trees right and then down town. But Portland's
a pretty expansive place.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
But that's one of the things I really like about
where my sister lived lives and where she's because she's
moved around a little bit in Washington. But there are
suburbs of Seattle, but there's trees and yeah, so it
doesn't feel like and even Seattle there's still a lot
of y yes, but where she is you're not very
far from Seattle either. Pretty quickly. But you have lots

(16:25):
of country, lots of you know, trees and grass, whatever
is blue size, right, you know, And I don't want
to go listen.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I don't want to go live in the country where
I don't have like power or water or gosh that's crazy.
But the idea of like living on a piece of
land and being able to have like animals and see
beech bee aroud nature and go home and be like,
oh it's quiet, it's like fresh, you know, it's surrounded
by green, opposed to coming home and listening to name
ors scream at each other or you know, just like

(16:54):
crazy shit, just parties, fireworks, all that shit.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't like it. I don't like any of it
right anyway. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it.
I do I growing up as you did in the country. Yeah,
I always felt like I would never never go back
to for any purpose or any reason. But yes, it
would have to be because I own a huge chunk
and it's close city, close enough to the city, but

(17:19):
also the big enough piece of property that I my
closest neighbors. I'm not going to hear them entire fighting.
I'm not going to hear them shooting off, I mean
shooting off. Will hear it? But you know, yeah, no,
but I get that. I don't remember. Did we talk
last week about this situation with us having to put
Mika down? I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
We did bring it up because it was on a Monday,
so we did bring it up, Yes, because Mika's little
black legs.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
We did mention it. One because every time I think
of fireworks, of course, I think Mika. Joe old Freddy,
old lady who was terrified of the fireworks, has a
lot of dogs, but she was afraid of everything rain
and I gotta eave squirrels, the neighbor anything. Yeah, So yeah,
I had, as you well know, I had quite the

(18:06):
week was last week. It started out on Monday with
the dog na crossing the Rabow Bridge, as the euphemism does.
But then on Wednesday, my mother, who y'all know that
I take care of, who has dementia, was having a
particularly loopy day where I was like, what's happening here?

(18:29):
And she was very, very confused, And then when she
got up to well, she couldn't walk without being helped
and whatever. So I ended up calling an ambulance, having
her team to the hospital and then I spent six
hours with her in the emergency room, which, by the way,
there's got to be a better way, honestly, honestly, are
you think of all this time somebody wol figure out

(18:49):
something a little bit more streamlined something, and may never
even were put in a room. We were in the
hallways the entire time, you know, whatever. And then she
was a did to the hospital. So she was in
the hospital so Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, got out Saturday and

(19:10):
nasty bladder infection. And what I understand from talking to
doctors and just you know, paying attention is that when
older people, especially people with dementia, get bladder infections, it
makes it look like their dementia has just gone off
the deep end crazy and it's like, yeah, because it
really affects their brain, which is so interesting, right, but

(19:34):
their body is full of toxins, you know and whatever.
So that was crazy. And what was the baseline for
her dementia has now shifted so much just those few days, Yes,
that you know, it's like her uncertainty of like where
the bathroom is in our house and it's like literally

(19:54):
right next to her to work, or how to use
the bathroom or how to get dressed or undressed. And
it's like, because people have asked me, especially medical people,
like well, can she still get dressed undress? Can she
still take a shower? Because she still like and it
was yeah, you know, those things are real good. And
now it's like not not very well, some challenges yep.

(20:15):
So that's going to change a whole lot of things. Yeah,
so you know, it leaves openly what's next.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oh, I know, And I've been thinking about that so
much because I'm like, when I saw her Saturday after
she came home, I didn't know she had come home yet,
and so when I saw her, I went and said, hi, Grahma,
how are you? Gave her some love and then she
was talking to me and she was she sounded drunk,
slurring her words. Her eyes were very like half liitted,
you know. I was like, all right, well take me, know,

(20:42):
take and she kept saying, I'm just trying to figure
out what the world's about. Same girl, same, We're on
the same page.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Sounds like deep and full of time. I know. It
was genuinely literal.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, lit And then every day I saw it, since
I've seen her every day, then I was like, she's
just doesn't seem like she's improved, because I saw her
the day after that too, and she's carrying her shoes
out and not walking with her walker because that's a
new thing too, is her walker, and she hates it.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
But she shuffled out with her shoes and you're like,
where you're going?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
She's like for a walk and you're like, no, you're not,
Like you're not going to go for a walk. First
of all, you have a walker now where you have
to use it to walk, and she asked to have
to use that on my walk, and you're like, you're
not going on a walk, Like what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Like, well, you can't even walk? And it's funny you
bring that up right before I came over here. But
I had to hold parkers. I'm going to Anaka's house.
We're doing a podcastle yeah, yeah, yeah, And then made sure, okay,
I'm going to Ana's house doing the podcast, okay, and I
and you remember you can't go for a walk, right, okay,

(21:46):
but can I go for a walk? Uh huh? But
no walk? No, you go for walking? You go for
walk with no walk? And she was like why And
I was like, you know, how unstable you are walking. Well, yeah,
but you know, I love to walk. I love to go.
You can barely walk through the house on flat surface? Yes,

(22:08):
what do you do when you get out there on
that uneven surfaces the sidewalk up of the road. That shit.
And it's interesting because when I talk to her about that,
she'll be like, well, I know, but I have to walk. Yeah,
And I'm like, okay, well work this out for me.
If you can't walk and be stable here, what do

(22:30):
you do on the road? Yeah? Well, I know, but
I have to. It's like, you know, you think, because
of course we don't have that impairment that she has.
It's like that doesn't even make sense. It doesn't make
sense that you know you're wobbly and you know you're
not stable on your feet. But at the same time,
it's like, but I want to do this anyway, I know,

(22:51):
you know what I mean. I feel like, if she
wants to go on a walk, you should have like
Parker or Grace probably Parker.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Walk with her to like the end of the dead
end and back, you know what I mean, with her
walker like whatever, because that's still her walking, and I'm
sure I.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Know where the fuck out. Yeah, because girl.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
So yesterday, as you know, because you drove us, we
went and got our nails done. So we got Grandma
and I both got a head of cure and then
we got our nails. She got a manicure and I
got a carylics. Anyway, she was very like when we
got to that.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
She's like, I have to use my walker. Where are
we going to put it? Where are we going to
put it when.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm getting my nails done? And I was like, it's
just up at the front, like it'll be okay. But
then she like clutched my hand, you know, was like
holding on to me tightly, and I'm like, so you
are so aware that you cannot walk on your own,
you know what I mean? And like getting her into
the chair, I basically like lifted her and turned her
and all the things I you know, every step of

(23:47):
the way, I'd be like pick.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
That foot up, put the other one in the water.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Because again, the women doing her nails are Vietnamese, and
Grandma's like what did she say to me? And so
I'm like needing to help coach her a little bit,
which is fine. Every time we've done it, that's what
I've had to do. But I'm like, and then the
thing she's talking to me yesterday was like my Edwards says,
her hands tattoo, She thought, I just got it, which
I'm like, I know, it looks great, but it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Even look new, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Then she told me the tattoos on her legs that
she's only had them for a little bit less than
a year. And I said, okay, her bracelets, her rings,
they're all new, they're all cool.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Look how cool they are. Have you ever seen them?
But it was just those those like three or four topics,
a cycle and a cycle. Yeah. And when she was
still getting she's had those tattoos for more than twenty years. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
And so we I was sitting at the front getting
my nails done, and I kept checking them. She's sitting
in the very back of the salon. There's all a
ton of people, So I keep looking back there, making
sure she's okay, she's getting her nails done.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
But and she's.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Looking around and we make eye contact, but she's like vacant,
like there's you know, she doesn't recognize. She doesn't know.
And so I think that from a distance, it's really
it's like watercolor to her. You know what I mean,
I think you're probably right, and up close it's like, oh,
it comes into focus.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
But like, she was very confusing. And then when I
walked back to wash my hands.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Or whatever, she was like, oh, there you are, And
I was like, yeah, grem just getting finished in my nails.
I'll come back when I'm all done whatever. But she
had a good time. She was super grateful. She was
super thankful, but she was super she was just.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So confused, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
And when we were waiting for you to come get us,
we were literally waiting ninety seconds outside in a million
degree heat, and she's.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Like, oh, are we walking? No, ma'am, we're not walking home, grinted.
It's not far. It's not like we couldn't you do
it all the time, but you have a walker. You
don't know why, You have no idea where.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
We are, you know what I mean, Like you are
unable to do many things on your own. And her
walking with her walker half the time is her just
lifting it and walking right, which I'm like that you
are technically walking the walker, but you're.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Not using it. So it's hell you Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
It is. When I first brought it home. Oh, she
was like not having it. She's hangry. I'm not using
that thing. Yeah, today, she tells me, And this changes
moment you have moment of course, she tells me, Oh,

(26:16):
I love my walker. Have you seen my walker? It's
so funny. It's like yeah, and then she will like
use it sideways or backwards or something. I'm all, you
gotta turn it, and she just looks like I'm asking her,
you know, what is the square room? That's extreme. It's like,
all you have to do is turn it? What do

(26:36):
you mean turn it? Girl? And I wonder It's like,
do you mean which way I'm asking you to turn?
The phrase turn it mean yeah, because it's kind of
at that level right now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Well, when you picked a suck yesterday and we got home,
she's sitting in the front seat and trying to get
her to find the.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Handle to open the door, like open the hands. She's
all this this forward forward and she's all not computing,
like yeah, the words were it was not making it.
I know it was.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
It was crazy. It's and it has gotten crazier since Wednesday.
It's bananas.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I know, I know, I don't even know she's I
you know, with with her in the condition she is in,
you expect it to get worse and you expect it
to not last forever. And we know that, but it
feels just crazy, right.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
It feels like you had this day because you were like,
you know, dehydrated and bladder infection in your whole body
like lost its mind and it kind of took a
massive toll on you to the point where like you have,
you know, your dementia decreased and not because we were
sitting at a plateau for a hot minute, this little bladder.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Infection and now she's like gone down several levels. Yeah,
she has. One of the things that never said to
me is that most of the times when this happens,
you don't regain what you lost just by having this infection.
And that's yeah, yeah, I wanted to tell a kind
of and I may have told this on here before,
but whatever. So, before my sister Linda's mom died, her mom, Becky,

(28:17):
who I loved her Mom Becky had a stroke and
when I saw her last how it had affected her
was she lost a lot of words, and she would
use a word that wasn't what she was looking for,
and she knew it wasn't the right word, but she
couldn't come up with the right yeah, and then she

(28:38):
would still say the wrong word even though she's like,
you know, that's right. My favorite thing was that Parker
was little, he was like three, and she kept calling
him Grandpa. That's the only He loved it. He thought
it was hilarious, you know, And so we from that
day forward have just loved that story.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, well I love it too. The only man titles
she'd come up with his grandpa. I think it's so good.
The fact that she's calling this little three.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
No, it's even bad. It was so great and it
was so sweet. But it was like, also if you
were going someplace it was the aquarium, Oh my god,
she was gonna take Grandpa to. But it was like,
it's amazing to me. Yeah, the things that happened in
your brain, I know that change it forever. I know
that's crazy. I know it's a Banana's girl. Like the brain.

(29:27):
Humans are more tough, kind of durable people, but then
the moments you're not, you are kind of like in
a Petrie dish. Your little brain is.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Just like floating goo, you know, because like we are durable,
but your brain the moment it cracks on you girl,
good luck? Right, Yeah, And I think about shit like
people didn't live as long as we live now, obviously
centuries ago. But I think about, you know, the elders
who got older in their communities before they knew what
dementia or Alzheimer's was, Like what maybe they didn't even again,

(29:59):
they didn't survive.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
But like what what do people think? You know what
I mean, when do people do? Right? I know we're
fortunate to know, but it nothing is fortunate about well.
And I think about specifically, like the queer community because
when I was young, in my twenties and early thirties,
people were just dying left and right from age right,

(30:20):
and so there was a huge part of the community
that was never going to be the elder queers. And
so now groups of us, who are you know, elder queer,
it's like, well, there should be you know, lots of
ten times as many of us, but you know, some
of us were like, well, we're never going to be old, yeah,

(30:44):
because all of our friends were dying in their twenties
and thirties, and so the idea of being in your
sixties yeah, was like, well, that's not going to happen.
Now I know well, and you know you, I have.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
A similar perspective, but not from like a pan I
make it or an epidemic. It was more like as
a youth because I lived in such shake, squalor and
shit that I was like, I never felt like I
was going to live super long time. I thought i'd
make it to adulthood, but I didn't think I was
going to live very long time. So then, you know,
in my thirties, I'm like, what the fuck am I
supposed to do? Because I didn't play in this far

(31:18):
right because I never thought this far ahead, and so
on one hand, that's really sad. On the other hand,
I'm like, well, I'm here, but now what.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Am I supposed to be doing?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Because every adult I ever saw growing up, most of
them were pieces of shit.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
So now I'm like, but now I'm an adult, I
you know what I know?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, along with all the societal change and the world collapsing,
it's like, how do people feel the drive to do anything?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Speaking of adults, yeah, I keep hearing this phrase. It
is so disturbing to me, specifically from Republicans who are
referring to girls teenage girls and you know, like as
underage women as opposed to children. Uh huh. You know,

(32:04):
it was like because they're trying to make it so
the horrific atrocities that are done to young girls, yeah
seem less awful because it was like they're because they're
underage women. Yeah, and it's I want you to know,
that's not a thing, and it's it's an intentional ploy.
Of course, it's an intentional ploy to be like, well,
they're mature enough. They're just there.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Their age isn't where whatever, Like it's they're not eighteen,
but they're mature. And I took this school, Oh my god,
I took this class the what was it like the.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Sociology of Girlhood or whatever? Okay, it talked about girlhood
and like what that actually means. When are you a girl?
When are you a woman? And who it gets to
be a girl? Who? Whatever?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
But the use of calling women girls and girls women
is is always a power play. So like calling full
grown women girls is to like infantilize them, to sexualize them,
to make them than to whatever, right, and then calling
girls women again is to sexualize them, but in the
opposite way.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well, and I know that what the first kind of
time I learned about any of that was specifically within
the black community, when white people refer to black women
as girls or I mean black men's boy, right, yeah, yeah,
But I was like, I remember watching this thing and
this woman kept referring to this black woman who worked

(33:29):
for as you know, this is my girl, and she's
or whatever, and it's like, she's a lot of girl,
she's a grown as in fact, she's older than you. Yeah. Well,
and how disrespectful and even that when they say, yeah,
please don't call me a girl, I'm a brown woman,
is like whatever, Yeah, it's that whole thing, and you're right,
it is to make them seem less than and less

(33:52):
threat to me. Ye is like, well, she's just a girl,
just a girl. Well, I hearing that, like this is
our girl. Are your mother and my grandmother cleaned houses
our entire lives? And the amount of people should claim
for that were.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
White people were all of them right, right, And as
a youth, I went to work with her a lot,
as did you, and the people I heard use terms
like that, this is our.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Girl, this is our our.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Girl, this girl claims our house. What do you mean
she's a girl. I'm her grandchild.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Full grown bitch? Like, what do you mean, girl? Yeah,
that shit's always weird to me. I never liked that.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
No. But speaking of which, there is this gross Texas
Republican Republicans who I'm going to play this little clip
do it off the ticking talk.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
We use right now? In Utah, Republican senator.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
After his family member raped a thirteen year old this
is real. According to the Salting, Senator Stuart Adams changed
the state's consent laws after his eighteen year old relative
was charged with four first degree felonies for having sex
but thirteen year old girl. The age of consent in
Utah is eighteen, but fourteen and fifteen year olds can
consent to have sex with someone less than four years

(35:17):
of their age. And while this Republican senator used his
position in office to change the law to benefit his
family member, here's how.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
The law now states that quote.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
If the defendant is eighteen years old and enrolled in
high school at the time the sexual activity occurred, they'll
no longer be.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Tried as an adult, but rather tried as a minor.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Now, he claims it won't be applied retroactively, but everyone
else in Utah is singing a different tune.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
According to the Lost Salt Lake Tribune, before his.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Eighteen year old relative would have had to serve a
twenty five year sentence potentially and register as.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
A sex offender.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Now, after what the senator did, no jail time at
least no more jail time and no sex offender registration,
and not enough people are talking about it.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Spread the words and more people know his name is
Senator quote Stuart Adams follow.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Along from one disgusting. So I was so disgusting that
he was like, well, you know my nephew who did
this thing, and he might go to jail. But it
goes back to that whole thing of you know, well
we don't want to ruin his future. Well, I'm sorry,
but who was that brock? What was his name? The swimmer? Yes,

(36:24):
the swimmer who raped the girl who was like passed
out by a dumbpster or something wasn't And the whole
thing was like, well but if we try him, if
he's found guilty of rape, that's going to ruin his future. Yeah,
so how what do you think it did to that
poor girl?

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah? The crazy thing is like the lack of accountability.
And it's for white men. I mean it's literally because
if if it was a uh, like I don't know.
I feel like had the person, like the senator changed
law for a black person and the black person was
trying to change a lot, it would be a very
different story. In the fact this old white Mormon is

(37:02):
trying to change it. So his dep you can rape
children is like really gross to me and I need everyone.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
It's gross, but not surprising. No, it's not surprising.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
And there's a reason why people under the age of
eighteen are considered children. There's a reason, right, and everyone
thinks that it's inherent in like it's known. Childhood wasn't
even the conversation, wasn't even talked about until the early
twentieth century because children were.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Not expected to live very long, right, people had eight
hundred children in three lived or when they were also
all put to work.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
They're all put to work because children were thought to
be little humans. They were, well, they are they're thought
to be little adults. Were right, they were thought to
be a little adults who could be put to work.
You gave them the right training, they would know.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Mind you.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
That means that children aren't going to school. Children aren't
having a like a youth. Y're not having friends, they're.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Not playing, they're doing They're being adults.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
That's why all those pictures you see of children smoking
or drinking or whatever, it's because they worked. They worked
in minds, they worked in factories.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So this in country kids work the farm and.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Country kids work the farm. Yes, but so there's a
reason childhood now is protected. Right, But getting it up
to eighteen is great. I think that childhood should be longer.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
To be honest, I think I think it should be
twenty would make sense to me, make the drinking age,
voting age, all that twenty like. I think that's fine.
I just think that people the weird wanting to mature children,
specifically women too quickly to sexualize them is very problematic.
But anytime anyone says.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
They are, you know, an underage woman, an underage man,
anyone under the age of eighteen is a child, yes,
and having sex with that person is not consensual. It's
rape at every single time. If two teenagers are having sex,
I don't care. If an adult is having sex with
a teenager or a preteen, it's rape every single time,
even if that preteen says I wanted it. It doesn't matter.

(38:59):
It is always a child that is always right, full stop,
period unless and again, there are caveats to that unless
you live in one hic ass state where your child
is married to somebody, right, then technically no, I still
find it gross, but whatever again.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
And there are also a lot of states are lowering
the age too that you can get married. It's so crazy. Well,
but you want to know why.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's because people my generation are having kids, so they're like,
we'll force this on this time.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Have you heard the new question that people going in
women specifically going into the doctor the VA. I think
I told you this, Yes, yeah, Well it's not just
the VA though. Oh where they're saying, is there anything
that would keep you from having a child? Yeah? Or
are you is your body capable? Yeah? Is there anything

(39:48):
stopping you physically from getting pregnant? It's like, how is
that any of your fucking business? Unless I came to
you because I am having issues and I want to
have children, then I don't see how that's any of
your business. And I don't know how that becomes a
question you should be asking anybody except that you know
they're desperate for you know, baby farms to be grown. Well,

(40:10):
you know, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's like, you don't want immigrants to come here, but
our birth rate is declining, so you think forced pregnancy
and forced birth.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Is going to be the solution.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Why don't you just allow people to come here? You know,
lots of people would come here and then your population
want to rise again.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Bitch, you know what I mean? And immigrants have children.
I don't know if you know this well. And then
there's you know, because I know we looked at this specifically.
There's places all around the world where they will pay
you to move there, especially if you are of the
age where you can have children, because their population has
dropped so much that they're like eating to either because

(40:46):
they're either going to go their city will become extinct,
or they're going to have to draw people in there
somehow to keep it going, to keep industry going, or
to keep whatever. And it's like okay, but you know
it's like their thing is, we're we're gonna pay you
to come, we want you to live here, but there's
no mystery as to why we're paying you to come.
Oh no, no, and it specifically to repopulate and I.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Think that makes sense, and that's what you want them
to do that, right, because when people are like I'm
gonna move there, I'm going to move to small fucking
town in Switzerland and with my partner, and we're gonna
have babies.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Love love, love love. But you can't make an entire
nation get pregnant. No, And I think that if you know,
if they want this to be successful, this particular movement
without people revolting or whatever, it's like, offer people and say, listen,
we will give you this much money, even if it's
like this much of a tax or whatever it is,

(41:39):
we will give you this much money for having children,
could be trying to repopulate this area or whatever. I
think it's a really foolish idea.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I just think I do get it giving people, not
rewarding them, but incentive incentive. But I also find it
scary because I think we'll give you ten grand to
get pregnant and to have a baby, right, but that
doesn't ensure that baby's gonna be taken care of, doesn't
is gonna be loved well.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
And that's I think my big issue with that because
in these other countries where they're paying you to move there,
they have universal health care. In college, they're free schooling there,
so it's different. So you're gonna be unless you're just
a piece of garbage, You're gonna be able to take
care of your.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You're already gonna have a leg up, like you move
there and automatically you're doing better than ever living in
the States because free health care, free I mean like
resources that people actually need to survive.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah bananas. Yeah, who even knew. So I want to
jump back to the whole underage women thing for a minute.
I have been I've been watching some like classic movies lately. Yeah,
and one of the things that I find interesting and
horrible all at the same time is how many women

(42:53):
were put in parts as like the leading role of
the the love interest or whatever before they were even
old enough. You know. It's like, because if you watch
old movies like Elizabeth Taylor, and I'm gonna start with
her specifically, Elizabeth Taylor went from this beautiful old child
actress to playing grown women because she matured so quickly

(43:16):
physically that they were like, well, we can't have her
playing a child, yeah, so what are we gonna do?
And so they put her in like lead roles as
the love interest or whatever. She was a teenager. I
think I want to say it started when she was fifteen.
And it's not like a teen movie. It's not like
a wild movie. Yeah, no, okay, absolutely not. It's Holly

(43:40):
was such a crazy place anyway, because you have these
people who are playing teenagers into their thirties, I know,
you know, but then you're having these kids teams girls people, yeah,
and it's like that's just gross. And it's usually the girls. Oh,
it's always the girls because their boo get bigger, right,
And I'm gonna jump back to the whole House in
the Prairie. Okay, Well, because Melissa Gilbert, who played Laura Ingalls,

(44:06):
when she when she got together with the man who
would eventually become her husband, she was I want to say,
she was fifteen and he was twenty five, which in
Prairie days, okay, whatever. Yeah, but they in the show

(44:26):
this little girl had to kiss this grown man because
it was written into the script, and she was horrified.
You know, it's like, this is a grown man. This
is like I'm kissing my friend who's my age in school.
And she still talks about it and she's you know,
in her fifties now, yeah, and it's like, but it

(44:47):
was traumatic for her. But what was interesting to me
is the actor who played her husband said it was
also traumatic for him because he's like, I have to
kiss a little girl romantically and that's disturbing, gross, And
so I found it interesting that the band was also
it's horrified. Yeah, but the producers were you couldn't just

(45:09):
turn and think, you know, yeah, do all the things
you can do to move back. We get it that
they're now a couple. Sure, you know, play romantic music
and cut away.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, you know whatever, but have them lean in and
then like you know, like very dynasty, right, Okay, the
one that creeps me out a whole bunch.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
And it's not her specific, it's how people reacted to her.
It's Shirley Temple. That's funny you say that because I
just watched a clip of her too. It makes me uncomfortable.
And here's why.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Every time she was singing and dancing and tap dancing
and sucking on a lollipop, and her audience were full
grown men who she would dance in front of in
her short dresses, and they would sit her on her
sit her on their lap, it's all weirdly problematic to me,
and it all felt with an undertone maybe not like

(46:02):
low key sexual.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Maybe it wasn't even low key.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
It makes like even seeing clips and people are like,
oh again, like how cute she was? It creeps me out. Girl,
it's this little girl and the only clips I've ever
seen are around grown men. Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, okay, so be prepared to be weirded out even
I'm ready. So when she went out from her original studios,
so Shirley Temple had run out her contract with whatever
studio she was in, and I now don't remember. I
know that they talked about loaning her out to MGM

(46:37):
to make The Wizard of Oz, but I think she
was with Fox or Warner Brothers. But it doesn't matter.
She'd run out her contract and was now picked up
by MGM. And she's twelve, Okay, so she's no longer
a little cute, cute girl. She's now starting to look like,
you know, a teenager. She's twelve, and she had her

(46:58):
first meeting with the studio heads and her mother went
in to meet with Louis B. Mayer, who was notoriously
an asshole, and she went in to meet with the
head of production.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
And when she again twelve, she's twelve, She goes in
to meet with the head of production, and he apparently
was an exhibitionist and exposed himself to.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Her at fucking twelve. He thought, well as a meeting
a meeting with the head of production. He was like, hey,
little girl, look at my well and she said, because
I was listening to her, because she was talking visit
interview many many years later with Larry King, and she
was saying how the only person she had ever seen
naked in her life was herself. Wow at twelve, Yeah,

(47:47):
which is you know, that seems right, that seems great,
and so she didn't even know it. So she just
started laughing and she couldn't stop laughing.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
He of course then got very pissed, and when she left,
she told her mother what happened. Yeah, and the mom
was like, you know, telling I had told her before.
She was like, you know, everybody had told her how
awful Louis V. Mayor was, and he actually was very
nice to her. Yeah, And she was like, well, and
this is what happened to me. And so she only

(48:18):
made one movie with MGM and then either they broke
her contract, or she broke her contract, but I was like,
how fucking disgusting, this is a twelve year old. Yeah.
Did she work much after that? Nope. I think the
last movie she did she was like sixteen. Wow, I
want to say. And then when she just retired. Yeah,
she never worked again. She didn't work in film. Okay.

(48:38):
Do you know what she did? Well? I know that
at one for quite a while she was an ambassador.
Oh wow. Yeah, she worked in government for a long time. Crazy. Yeah.
She was like, I have to get the fuck out
of Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, I bet, Oh god, I just yeah,
all the little clips.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
I just don't understand the cutes little girl in a
short skirts thing and being all precious and gentle and soft,
and these girls men like whistling, and it just he'd
be fucking GBI's girls. Oh yeah, it's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah she was. Let's see, how was she? So she
was by the way, she was the number one box
office straw from nineteen thirty four to nineteen thirty eight,
So from the time she was six until she was ten.
Yeah wow. And then you know, because she had the
nerve to grow up bitch, you know. Yeah, It's like,

(49:31):
how dare you wait? And she was she slated to
be Dorothy Gayle. Yes, what well, because Dorothy, you know,
in the book is like little little yeah, and Judy Garland,
of course, as you know, famously played that role. But
they wanted a little girl, and they wanted Charlie Temple
because she was the number one yeah, studio kid whatever.

(49:55):
And I couldn't imagine Charlie Temple singing the songs no,
because she's all animal cractor. It's crazy. But I was
trying to see if it was told me what she
was the US ambassador to Ghana. Okay, she was US

(50:15):
Chief of Protocol, the ambassador to Czechoslovakia. So she was
very She's a busy lady. And wasn't her married last
name black? Yes, Shirley Temple Black. What a metal name.
I love it. She has this cutes the little girl
name and then black right. I love that. But you know,

(50:35):
one of the one of the things that I just
and you know that makes me so crazy about all
of this stuff is the Republican Party, which is supposed
to be the Christian Party, And was like, oh, whatever
are the ones who are like you can go ahead
and abuse our children. But unless you're trans, you know,
because you're the real you're the real villain. Trans people

(50:58):
have done done of it, of it. No, And I
just watched the thing that showed in the last in
the last five six months, that there has been a
slew of pastors who were convicted of sexual abuse towards children.

(51:21):
And I mean I'm not talking like two or three,
I'm talking like twenty. Are we surprised, No, I'm not surprised,
And it's grouse an awful. Also, I wanted to talk
a little bit about this bullshit that's going on right
now again with JK. Rowling, So I know we talked
a little bit. I think last week. I think we
did about the trans woman who had the nerve to

(51:44):
ask some kid at the store, I think, can I help? Yeah?
And that was literally the entire can I help you?
And because the girl, I apparently was coming to the
door and get fitted for her first bra. So this
woman was going to just direct her where to go. Yeah,
she wasn't gonna measure she was going in the fitting
room with her nothing else. But the mother, you know,

(52:05):
made a big issue of it. Of course, you know,
they should fire her because she was bothering a child.
Blah blah blah. She asked her, can I help you?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
You're all so weird? And do you know what that
says to me? It's projection, bitch. It's because other people
being like transit, we are gonna rape children. It's because
you're raping children. It's because you want to rape children.
It's not the trans people. You're projecting your own bullshit.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Right anyway, Well, and so stupid JK. Rowling decided to
get in on this whole man we should all boy
boy caught this store because they had the nerve to
hire a trans woman. And it's like, what the fuck
is your problem? Get a fucking hobby. You're such a loser, Joanne, Like, ugh,

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nobody even likes you and it's just gross.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
And the older she gets, the more and more she
looks like Gollum. And I'm like, that's what you got for.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Being you're that ugly on the inside, it's gonna start showing.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah, you're all my bites. That's her, that's her. I
can't stand her, like I just don't.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Get it, Like what joy do you get? And and
what happened to you? Girl? Who hurt you? And I
bet you it wasn't a trans woman.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
No, And I bet you because my theory is that,
you know, because she was like abused by her ex
husband And I just said that and I rolled my
eyes because I kind of wanted an abuse her too,
But whatever, I have a feel I have. My theory
is that he left her for a trans woman, or
he cheated on her with a trans woman, or he

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you know, was looking at transport or something and she
was just she couldn't handle it.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Was like, that is the biggest enemy to me. They're
challenging my womanhood because my men wants to fuck them
like that is what I think. It does. Give that
because why are you so like you hound the trans community,
like you're so us obsessed. And the only people I've
ever been like thought about that much are people that
I hate, do you know what I mean? For a reason, right,

(53:59):
So I think that she has her reason is well,
it's the only way I think that were people that
I hated or people that I wanted to get with. Yeah, girl,
you know that was it? Maybe because it's like if
you're just out there in the world doing your thing,
I don't care. Yeah, you know, if you're out there
hurting people. Yeah, so then why isn't she kicking up
a fuss about all these like priests and pastors and

(54:20):
youth pastors and whatever and senators and whoever who were
sexually care. She doesn't fucking care because it's not about
the children to her, It's about womanhood to her. Well
that is true. Yeah, her whole thing is, you know,
protecting womanhood.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
And what's funny to me is she's doing more damage
to womanhood than trans people could ever hope to do. Right,
And it's I I just Joanne, you wrote some cute stories,
I guess, but I think you should do some more
research on about like what womanhood means, what girlhood means,
what identity is.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Because, baby girl, you chose a pen name to not
be a woman when you wrote write your books because
it's because you wanted people think you were a man
so your books would sell.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yes, And then we used to talk about her pen name.
Her other pen name as a man is the same name.
It was like a Nazi sympathizer or somethingthing. She took
his name Robert something, But it's her pen name now
her No, that's it. Yeah, So it's just like, get
a life you're such a loser. Can we just take

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out that whole island? Do you know that the British
isles are this big?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah? You like and they hold like, oh where the
culture capital? You're nothing? You have JK. Rowling. Take it out,
blow it up right. One more little topic that it
wanted to hit real quick before we go, is this
woman on the social medias did this whole entire thing

(55:47):
about uh Alta. I think it was Alta. It was
Aulta or Sephora, but I think it was Alta, which
everyone is carrying Jonathan Jonathan Vaness's hair products. Okay, she stupidly,
who is this? Just some idiot woman made this whole
thing about why Dylan mulvaney was now representing Alta and

(56:15):
it's like selling it there. I was like, first of all,
that's Jonathan vs. And they look nothing alike. They don't.
And it's like, and why would they carry this man's
products when this is a woman's store. It's like, I'm sorry,
so men shouldn't do hair care or skincare.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Do you know Also in both of those stores, Ulta
and Sefora, there's a whole section that's for men, men's cologne,
men shampoo, men's shaving shit.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
But the fact that she's going on and on about
one how Dylan mulvaney is not a woman, and how
she shouldn't be representing this women's store, and she certainly
shouldn't be representing you know, there's some product that's geared
to women, and it's like she's not. Also, we're also
stud she's not. You know, I'm cut. It's like, first
of all, you're looking at someone who is a man. Yeah,

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who other than the fact that he has hair down
to his ass, looks like a man. Yeah, you know, yes,
he has long, gorgeous, you know, shiny hair, but still
he just looks like gay or Jesus the gayest, the gayest.
I know. That shit's so bananas to me, Like, oh, well,
that is for men and that's for women when it
comes to like a product that is meant for something

(57:28):
that we all have, and it's so weird to me,
Like like your skincare, like your moisturizer cares that you
identify as a manner of woman, right, bitch, no one cares.
I'm sorry. But unless you're like a man going white,
you know, I'm gonna go get myself a breast pump
that might not wear that's weird. Yeah, I mean, I
don't care. Or you go by yourself a breast pump.

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I feel like a sis gender woman buying a penis
pump for yourself. That might be weird. You know, that
might be weird. Maybe I'd be trying to grow things
that I don't know, but listen, but most things anymore,
it's just they're just things.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Well, am I going to be mad if there was
a woman who was the spokesperson for a penis pump? No,
I'm not gonna be like, why are you selling the
thing that's for men? I don't give a fuck, do
you know what I mean? Sell the product?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
And if she was the one who invented it, she's
the one, you know her product? Yeah? Why why not
girl here? And I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
I just don't care. I care more about Trump selling bibles,
you know what I mean. I care more about Trump
trying to have you take universities and selling shoes. I
do more about that than some queer selling hair products
at a fucking queer store.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
I mean, I don't care. No, I don't care. And
that's just it. It's like, why do you care? Why
are you so obsessed, and if you're gonna be obsessed,
do a tiny bit of homework, a teeny tiny bit
of research so that you know what you're talking about,
so you don't look foolish. I mean, you're gonna look
folllish if you're going mama, It's like what I One

(58:57):
of the things I just don't understand is why there's
there's millions of trans women. Why Dylan mulvaney specifically has
like set the country on fire by just existing. Yeah, right, Well,
I think it was because it was very public, and
it was very like, we're gonna go through my entire transition,
and she had the nerve to like be in camera
or on camera with like you know, looking feminine with

(59:20):
a five o'clock shadow. She did all these things that
people were like horrified.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah, and her transition is very open because she was
posting before transition a lot, you know, So I.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Think it was just the new person being met up. Yeah.
There have been there, and there have now been several
people who have transitioned publicly who have trans We've seen
like all the steps of their transition, and I think
if anything, that like good for them. That was a
very that was a very brave thing to do, because
you then you have people like this crazy bitch who

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were like they're a man. Also, that's their business even
if who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Like, why do you care so much? Are they trying
to come on to you? Are they trying to bring
in your home? I've taken your money and they snatching
your children? Shut the fuck up, Like, there are bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Things to be concerned about. And I just the thing,
the fact that we're being like ripped back in like
decades ago, we're like being black or brown or queer
or disabled or whatever, is so bad that I'm like,
how are we this stupid? How are we so dumb
that we're just taking all the steps backwards? You know? Right? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
And I don't even think it's steps. I think that
we're just falling backwards into stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah. Anyway, anyway, this kiddy in front of me is
getting real mad? Are you mad? Katie? Can't? Are you mad?
Katy can't?

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
She is?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
She is, she's getting real pissy. She uh, we're trying
to be our new producer anymore our show? Yeah. So
but before she like unplugs my computer or something. Yeah,
I am going to lead us on out of here,
so we can, you know, do all the millions of
other things we have to do today. Yeah, you're like,
I have chairs and I need to hold down girl. Well,

(01:01:07):
oh here's I know. We're leaving. I passed my ninth
class for my master's street. I have one class left
and then I'm done and then I'm a master. So
I have a lot to do, which is like this
cat's trying to fight me. Yeah anyway, yeah, yeah, On
that note, I would like to say, you know, come
out out every Wednesday. Uh huh, like sure, subscribe, tell

(01:01:30):
your friends, tell your enemies, posts on social media, posts
on your question, connect your phone to your work, your
church flyers.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Connect your phone to your work, ox cable and play
us throughout your store.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
You go love it, love it, and uh, we'll be
here next week. So's message. Yeah, stay cool and keep living, bros.
I don't know. I don't know either, all right. I
suggested it though at gmail dot com on the air
unless you specifically tell us, but they will probably still
do it because the old lady can't read. All right,

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We'll see you next week.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Bye,