It Would Seem As Though We Are Living The Dream

This week we talk about our lives, our family and my mother and her dementia.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
It was him, good morning. You know, we for the
last few weeks have had some sound issues. What do
you mean, Well, you know it's like one week you
sound like you're out in the backyard while I'm in
the house, and last week it sounds like I was
out in the backyard. I think we have it together. Yeah,

(00:37):
I think I think I finally figured it out. Listen
as it was pointed out to me this morning by
my beautiful daughter slash co host. I'm old and technology
has maybe escaped me. Because again I'm old, yeh, because
I had a little sitch last night. Telephone it's my favorite.
And if you need more to hear, I'm old. I

(00:59):
was trying to get my phone to pair with my
hearing aids. That right, there is a sentence that makes
me sound old. Yes, I realize there are young people
who were hearing aids too. Yeah, but just hearing you know,
I'm trying to pair my phone my hearing aids make
you sound like an old lady. But I am an
old lady anyway. And so my son, who's fourteen, which
means automatically he's better at devices born with like right

(01:23):
in his hands. Well, he was born with a chip
in his head because he's a robot yea. Anyway, but
he was like, well, you just need to update your phone. Duh. Well,
normally my phone will pop up and saying do you an
update now, we're on schedule, and I'll just go update now.
And I haven't done it in a while because I
haven't seen it pop up. And he's like, you have

(01:43):
to periodically check if there are updates Golden Home. I'm all, okay, fine.
Uh well, we went to update my phone and it
went through the updating cycle no lie, eight times Jesus,
And I'm like, what the fuck what? And I've updated
it many many times and it goes through and then

(02:04):
it researched your phone and then it finishes the updates
and it did that. But the part that confused me
is it kept saying your update has been postponed. Schedule,
now we're do it. I was like, wait, what do
you mean it's been postponed. I've been saying do it
now every time. Yeah, So it was confusing anyway, but
it was apparently because it had to do so many updates,

(02:25):
and then when it was all done, things.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Were different, and you know what, you know, who hates
different old people, old people.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Back to mind. I'm like trying to scroll through my
apps and they're all moved and some of the icons
have changed.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It don't change a different language now in Farsi, so
I can't really.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh my god, you're speaking Persia, right, I know, girl,
I understand that. The highlight of all of it was
my daughter telling me because I'm old. I think she
also said it was stupid.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
But listen, I you were like, hey, we fair an
emtated and burned didn't work. But you were like, I
wanted to update now. I didn't do out of it.
Now I need to do out of it. No, Like, girl,
it takes a minute, Okay, it takes long time for
me to do a thing, let alone a computer that's
running like fifty updates at one time.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
And well, I was just perplexed because I had never
done that before. Yeah, every time it's updated has gone through,
and sometimes it's taken up to five minutes. Sure, but
it's done it all without recycling recyclinging like, and that
confused me, and I thought, and why the only reason
it really confused me is because it kept saying that
it had been postponed. I was like, no, it fucking hasn't.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
So just God, just just now, just freaking dre freaking earlier.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
But you know, I am sixty three years old old,
so I am technologically uh challenged sometimes.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, but I would say there's a lot of people,
I would say, your age, even younger than you, who
are like, I don't get it. I might even gonna
try and get it. I don't know how to do
the internet.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
You know, well, and that is the difference is I
will keep doing it. And they told Parker last night
and he's like, just give me your phone, and I
was like, no, show me how to do it. Uh huh,
so or tell me how to do it while I
have the phone in my hand, because if you just
do it for me, I learned nothing exactly except I
learned that I can handle off my phone to you
and you'll do it, and which I already know.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah right, Oh my god, how the tables have turned.
You're like, just give it to me and I'll open
it whatever it is. And now he's like, just give
me your phone and I'll fix it.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh well, uh, you know, the kids still wants me
to dish up his food. But he can fix it.
He can fix stuff. He can fix your phone. Speaking
of old and this is completely random. So some months
ago we had a big shift of locations in our house,
Like we moved my mother to the main floor because

(04:55):
her the basement, which is a thousand square foot apartment,
was her but once it became too much for her,
we moved her up to the main floor to just
a bedroom and then set forth in the biggest challenge.
I've had a really long time of cleaning that mess.
And then we moved down to the basement to her apartment,

(05:18):
and Parker moved into our old room. Well. In part
of that move, Parker was going to keep my dresser.
Now my dresser has literally been my dresser for forty years,
holy shit. And it was old when I got it.
I didn't know that. The long one. Yeah, it's very long.
It's very heavy, and it's got h three drawers on

(05:41):
each side and in the middle has a door that
you open. There's three doors inside of it. But it
weighs literally a fuck ton. It is so metric, So
if you don't know what that is, look it up
on the internet. It's a metric fuck ton. Anyway, but

(06:03):
he was like, I need you know, we should probably
just get rid of this. And I'm like, that's fine.
You know, I have had it for forty years. It
can go. And like I said, it was old when
I got it because it's from the sixties, so it's
as old as I am. Yeah, at least. Anyhow, so

(06:24):
this morning he's like, well, so I started taking it apart,
and I'm like, okay, right, well, so now it's in
pieces in his room. So instead of taking it out
of his room in one piece and then taking it
to the dump in one piece, it's now going to
be in many, many, many pieces. And oh my god,
and wait there's more. He took all the hardware off

(06:47):
of it because the hardware is cool and we should
save it. And I'm like, and do what with do
fucking what? I mean? Yes, it is cool. It is
neat looking hardware that if I knew someone who did
did like restoration stuff, I would be like, here, have
this cool hardware. You can use it on some vintage
piece or throw it in the garbage. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
And he's like, well we can also We're not gonna say,
but we could donate it. Who's gonna want it? Who's
gonna want to bag old hardware.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, take it to have a tapping humanity, like appreciate
the thought that you're kind of being ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, it's funny to me. It's like you want to
recycle the tiniest part of this dresser and destroy the rest,
and you just broke all of it, right? Was it
not usable? If it needed work? Okay, because a lot
of the tracks on the inside were falling apart, and
the dress some of the drawers, when you open them,
they would just kind of fall on you and crush you.

(07:41):
And I want you to know the hospital none.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I I remember kids being destructive when I was little,
like at things whatever, But I don't remember anything like that.
I don't remember people being a kid being like, well,
I took part this whole thing because.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
We're not gonna use it anymore, you know what I mean, Like,
I just what are you doing? You're not a kid?
Since he was little would find things to take apart
and not put back together, because I know I've known
other kids who are like, I want to see how
this thing works, will take it apart like an electronic right,
and then put it back together totally. And occasionally he's
put things back together, but most really, yeah, it's taken

(08:19):
apart and then be like I'm going to save all
these pieces for what Yeah, oh you have more garbage.
I know.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
That is the thing that I find very comical. And no,
ten no shade, not talking shit, just the fact he
will say things like, well I took it apart, I
just know how it works. I could put it back together,
you know, or.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like I'm not gonna I.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Watch so many YouTube videos so I'm good at these things. Now,
I've watched how to Do It, so I'm great at it.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, he did watch also baseball games, so he's gonna
be a pro baseball player.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
So now, but he's good the already knows I'm all
because that's what he was telling me when I was like,
I can help you, but you have to bring it
to me, right, Like I'm not going to seek you
out to help you, like you say, will you help
me of like learning baseball? Yes, but you have to
come to me. But he's like, well, I've watched so
many videos, I'm already I already I'm I already know
I'm a pro. And I'm like, that's crazy to me,

(09:11):
that like the self assuredness of like yeah, I'm so good, but.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Are you You know what I mean? Like what we
have no idea? Here's what I do. I love about
YouTube videos is if you get a thing that doesn't
come with good instructions, yeah, so many things now totally
you can go on YouTube and say how do I,
how do I do this? How do I change? Is?
How do I work? Totally? Because I know when I
got I think it was when I got my new phone. Yeah,

(09:37):
it's basically like here's your phone, good luck, because there
was a lot on the commercial from my phone. Yeah,
there's all these like you can do this thing, and
you can do this thing, and you can do this,
and I'm was like, oh wow, okay, how mm hmmm?
I mean is there a class you know? Because it
wasn't like, you know, you can take pictures, duh, you can.
It was like you can create these kind of special effects. Okay,

(09:59):
but how yeah on account of how totally no, no,
because I would I mastered photoshop, but it had some
instruction right and I figured most of it out on
But yeah, so I went in YouTube and it was like,
oh okay, yeah, it seems hard, so I'm not gonna
do any of it. No, way, that's exhaust But I

(10:19):
have learned how to do stuff, and sure do learn
how to unclog our garbage disposal on a YouTube video.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well that's the thing though. Yes, you can watch YouTube
videos and learn the thing and apply the thing that
you've learned. But if there's no application, if you're just
watching videos and you're not actually doing the thing, you
don't know how to do the thing. And maybe, but
that's the same thing as being in theory and doing
it again in application. I can talk about shit in

(10:48):
theory all day, babe.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
But if you actually want me to.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Do this, well, in theory, I know how to play baseball. Yeah,
in reality, my fat that is ain't going nowhere. No,
But in theory, yeah, I know the theory of it.
I don't know the theory of how to play football.
I do know. You run, you tackle, you get a
ball down. I mean yeah, points are weird. Yeah, I
hate football. I don't get it, and that's fine. I

(11:13):
don't need to.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's not for me. But speaking of YouTube and Parker,
you know, my man is in the process of building
a new couch.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay, so let's just pause a moment. I know your man,
mister Gavin, mister Gavin, He's I'm just gonna flat out
to say he's amazing. Yeah. This is the guy who's like,
I'm going to try this thing, and then he fucking
does it and he excels at it. He's not just like,
well I put this rickety rackety thing together because I

(11:42):
wanted to try it and that No, no, no, no,
he does shit and you're like, well you just will
you built that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah he I mean he built our greenhouse right, which
is great. Yeah, and the fence, which is beautiful. But he,
I don't know, a month ago, was like, I'm going
to build some chairs for outside because he's also he's
laid down a portion of our patio. He built a
little shed for his tools. Like he's just very handy,

(12:12):
mind you. While he right before that, he did my
whole hallway. You know, he's always doing something. So he
made two chairs, two wooden chairs, beautiful, sturdy, wide, comfy,
and he's stained them in sand and they're beautiful.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
They're just they look like Adirondack chairs. Yeah, similar, similar. Yeah,
So he made two of those and then he was like,
I think we're gonna I'm gonna take on building a couch.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
But he wanted to build everything. He wanted to build
the frame, cushions, he wanted to do everything, and he's
never sown he's never really done a ton of woodworking.
So he looked up YouTube a lot and it's Parker
two because our old couch we're giving your son.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So that's a huge portion why he had.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
To get rid of the dresser. But yeah, Gavin both
the whole frame, he stained it. He's wrapping it in
like light upholstery foam. He's made too to the seat
cushions already, and he did one a day because he
doesn't he learned how to sew. He made a pillowcase
and then he made cushions for a couch.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, so let's just jump back that he taught himself
how to sew, and he didn't like just so you know,
to because most people never learn how to sew. Sew
together just any two random pieces of fabric to learn
how to make the stitches. Yeah, that motherfucker literally built
a pillow case and then ten seconds later made a
couch cushion, which you know, a couch cushion in theory

(13:40):
is easy because it's a square. Yeah, but it's not
because it's square.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Because it's yours.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
A zipper yeah, ye, and he put it in a
zippers take years from most people who are sewing to learn. Ye,
unless you have a machine that's the zipper foot. And
even if that, it's challenging. And he like, oh what,
like it's hard?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Oh my god, yeah, no, crazy, And he found the
right foam and cut the foam and he's done all
the things.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
It is. It is truly bananas. I can't see it done.
I was looking at on my way here because it's
in the greenhouse. The back on it is higher than
I've ever seen the back on a couch.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, and that's what we want, right because right.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, because he's so tall, you're so tall. But I
was looking at, going, well, that's very customized, very cool.
But yeah, he's amazing. Well I asked him, and not
only is he amazing, but he's just a super sweet guy. Yeah,
it's incredible. I don't know where you found him.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I know I what he is. So we're going to
Rocky Horror in October with you know, same time you
all are.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
But Roe City Comic Con, so it's like comic Con
but in Portland is coming in September, and he was like,
would you want to go any of the days? And
it's three days a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And I've never
been to any con. I've been to like the hair
show with you, I've been to a doll show with you.
I've been to a bizarre with you, but I've never

(15:06):
been to a con, you know. And I know they
have them for everything whatever, and I was like, yeah,
that'd be fun. I've never gone, and the idea of
going to San Diego Comic Con gives me like such
anxiety because it's this huge, massive people like sleep outside
for you know what I mean, Like it's I don't
want that. And he was like okay, cool. So I'm
looking and there are people who are going to be

(15:26):
there that I would love to see, but I'm not
going to spend that much more money to go be
like here's a picture with this guy, you know, right.
But I was like, yeah, any of the days would
be fine, Like I don't know the difference, so it
would be fun just to go.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And he was like okay. Well then he said, okay,
I bought the three day pass and I said what
he was like that.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Way we could just go to the things we want
to go and we don't have to spend all day
one day there, And I'm like, what, Like, that's just
bananas to me. Like I've anytime I've been to a
thing where it was like you can go for one
of the days the whole week. I always go for
a day, right, like warp to her, wait for a day?
Because what am I rich? Well?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
And that goes back to our whole episode we did
about rich girl. You bought the past for every day?
Yea rich, rich and well, And I know that a
big part of that really goes back to us growing
up very poor because there is a part of and
I know for me, and I'm not gonna speak for you,
there's a part of me that always fears that that

(16:31):
could we could lose all everything and go back to
being poor. Yeah, you know, it's like, well, I I
bought too many things and now I don't have any money,
my bills not totally, you know, And I realize that,
you know, barring you know, all of us losing our jobs,
that's not gonna Yeah, but I think that, you know
how they always talk about people who grow up in

(16:52):
the depression, how they're like save everything and their frugal
and whatever. I mean, I think it's a little bit
of that is growing up or makes you at least
aware at too young of an age. Yes, And I
think that's the thing, is being.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Aware that you're poor at a young age before you
really comprehend what money is, right, And like, I think
it's a really good example. Again, I'm gonna use your
children who don't really have any concept of money none,
who love to think that we're just poor white trash
and I you know what I mean, like think like, well,
we couldn't do that because we never had the money
to do that, like play a sport, you know what

(17:26):
I'm saying, And don't understand the concept of like baby
Mama and I were poor white trash and we made
it out of poor white trash. Yeah, Like that isn't
You're nowhere near that.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
And the funny thing is Parker has that idea. Yeah,
because when he's wanted to sign up for sports and stuff,
I would be like, okay, cool, but then it would
be like a community thing where I would go to
sign up for and it would be through the school district.
But it would say Okay, sign up here, give it
your money, and then we'll get back to you on

(17:57):
practicing practice in games happen and no, because if they
happened when everybody's at work, I've just lost money and
can't And you know, I realized at some point has
to be you take some kind of leap of ay.
But I won't take a leap of aith. It's hundreds
of dollars. No, no, no, and then maybe go on. I'm sorry.

(18:18):
If he had.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
If there was more of a community in the sense
you're like, hey, parent, you know, we don't know what
this is going to be. Or you could friend, could
your friend's parents pick park up? Take them to you
know what I mean, to take your practice and like that.
There are things that I will say growing up in
small town USA, we're beneficial in a way. And also
because it is so community. I wasn't friends with any

(18:40):
of these people, right, but because they knew my.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Family, like my biological father would be like, hey, could
you come get the kids and take them to whatever?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
That was just so normal right in a city it's
very different.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
It is very different, and you know whatever. But you know,
back to the money thing, yea is at the same time,
they will thinks that we're rich.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, it's so weird.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
We don't have the money to pay for this, but
we're because Grace will be like, you know, every time
she sees the fancy car, do you want this car?
You want this car? You're gonna buy this car? I haven't. Yeah,
I have my car. It's not. And it's like, yes,
my car is new, and you get a new car,
every new car every three years. Okay, but you know,
it's like it just it kind of cracks me up

(19:24):
because he goes back and forth between you know, can
we afford this to oh, we're you know, we're so rich.
Wouldn't we be going on vacation again?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, honestly, you know, And it's like they'll we we
went a year ago. Yeah, yeah, a little over here.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I mean, I need a vacation girl.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Same.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
But you know what, I realized that we've got almost
twenty minutes into this and I haven't even done my
little introduction. So I'm gonna do it just so, Okay,
twenty minutes in Welcome to It seems the podcast where
we talk about anything, everything and.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Nothing mostly nothing. I'm best at I'm oh, I'm over it. Too,
I'm and then Nika an, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Listen. I know well, and it's funny because this so
far and twenty minutes and we've been talking about a
whole lot of really not nothing of any importance. I
do have to tell you that are the head of
our international fan club, also known as your uncle. James

(20:28):
told me that he thought we should do a show
about my crazy mother.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Ooh, I would love to because we have stories to
go more about her, but like any specific thing. Excuse me,
I'm sorry. Kinty girl wants to help.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I know the cats over here trying to like push
buttons on my computer, and all I know is everything
on my computer touch screen. And I was like, yeah,
she's gonna because you know, the cat's probably smarter than
I am about it, and she'll like push some button
and I won't be She's muted my entire computer. It's

(21:05):
that movie from.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Like the early two thousands, capperst Dogs, but like they'll
have like guns and they're fucking doing heists and ship.
That's kiddy girl, except she's too she's lazy girl.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Al Right, So I'm going to we'll come back to
the James thing in just a second. I during the
pandemics of five years ago. Yeah, I was asked to
be on a panel about foster parenting, okay specifically like
queer family's foster parenting and that sort of thing. And
I was like, cool, love to yeah. Well of course

(21:34):
it was zoom because well yeah, yeah, And I get
my computer all set up, and I made sure to
set up early because you know, yeah, I want to
make sure I'm not late. Well, I'm trying to get
it and I can't see me. I can find the room,
I got the link. I was like, where the fuck
why am I not seeing myself? I searched everything. I'm like,

(21:59):
what's wrong with my camera? I know my camera works
because I used it. There's a tiny little button it
is almost undetectable that if it gets pushed. Fact, I
have no camera. So I had to do the entire
panel with just my voice because they were like, the
old bitch don't know how to work camera on a

(22:20):
damn computer, and so she's dumb. My friend was running
new panel, showed pictures of me from my Facebook page running.
She opens her mouth. It's like, is this bitch don't
know how to work on computer? And I felt so stupid.
And then when I had to do I was like,

(22:41):
I've got to figure this out. And I did figure
it out by myself. Don't you know how YouTube video?
Because I youtubed and I was like no, because I
would go I went through and I would go search
for camera, found the camera, okay, make sure camera is active,
and it'd be like, you don't have a camera. I sure,
I'm looking at dead. This is an expensive fucking computer.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
It's well and now it's like standard like every computer.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well right, But so my friend Shelley, it was kind
of a computer nerd genius. When I was getting ready
to get a new new computer because mine was, you know,
going to I was like, what should I get a
life maybe? Because Shelley is, you know, computer genius nerd.

(23:31):
She's like, oh, we'll get this brand and she's like
and start and you're gonna ask her this and you're
gonna go to their website or talk to them on
the phone, doesn't matter which sure, and you're going to
ask her these features because you basically build it yourself.
I mean, well, you asked her the futures. You want
this size, and you want to have this size memory

(23:53):
and the size RAM and whatever, and then you wanted
to have these features. Okay, Well, Jam, I like to say,
it's like I bought, you know, the entire Colisseum for
the park one car. Yeah, because my computer has capabilities

(24:14):
that I will never even know, which is crazy, right,
And it has so much memory. I could put hundreds
of times what I have on her because and it
still wouldn't fill it up. It's like, that's all you got, bitch,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Give me more, I know, give me more, I know.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Right. So, but back to Uncle James. Uncle James, by
the way, Happy birthday, James, Happy birthday, Uncle James. So old.
Now I know he's practiced. We'll go with that. He's
just your older.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Than my Uncle James is one, you're older than me.
It's very different.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
He I believe. He told me he's one hundred and fifty.
Oh my god, that's what I say. Yeah, he's I believe.
I won't say he's fifty two. Oh my goodness. Happy birthday.
And I'm still knocking on wood and keep fingers crossed
for all the good things for you for this week.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yes, same.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
He thinks it's hilarious when we talk about the old lady.
Oh good. Someone has to. I think he really thinks weird.
You know, wants is to like prank the old lady
and talk about it.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
We don't need to prank her. Her life is kind
of a prank on her.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, what really was really terrible is we can gaslight
her with no trouble at all, because one she'll believe
most unless it's something we say that she did something.
But it was like, yeah, you know, when I went
for a walk to day, I saw, you know, big
foot in the neighborhood whatever. She'd be like, oh my god,

(25:39):
really Yeah, if I tell her it's something she did,
if that's what you say, or she'll be like, yeah,
I didn't do that. I don't know how to happen.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
So God.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Well, I love when she says, well, if that's the
logic you want to use, what do you mean? What
do you mean?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
If that's the logic I want to use?

Speaker 1 (25:59):
What is there is? Now?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
We're using different logics.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Love that? Okay? Yeah, between that one and if if
you say so, because to me that means you're full
of ship. But I'm not gonna argue with you anymore.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I will I will pile drive you here.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Don't don't. So Saturday, I get home from work, do
the things I need to do, and then I'm like,
I'm gonna go sit in my big comfy chair because
I had a really busy days. Yeah, and I'm like,
I need to rest, have a sit down. I need
to watch some Mom because that's what I'm binging right now, sure,
which I've already binged, and it's round two. Yeah, because

(26:35):
I love Alison Janney and but I love the whole cast.
Is a good show. Yeah, and I think that it
as accurately as possible while still being in comedy, takes
a pretty accurate look at addiction, you know. Yeah. Anyway,
so I sit down, I'm gonna put Mom on it,
and that's the show. Not my mother gonna put.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
On the TV.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
She's small enough anyway. And she's sitting in her chair
across room, just staring daggers at me, not saying anything,
which is her m o. I'll just stare at you
until you go what. And so I looked at her
because of course I can feel herself, you know, and
he turned to her to go, what do you need?
Then she goes she says to me, wear all my

(27:20):
clothes and she's sitting there wearing pajamas. Now, mind you,
she's already going out for her walk that day, and
not in pajama. She was wearing jeans and her novel.
Her uniform is I like to call it a little
shell top jeans and her flannel.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Coat with face slaned flannel.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Please land flannel that she's wearing in the summertime the day, night,
stop matter, and she sleeps in them. And if she
does happen to put on pajama, she still puts her
coat over. It goes whatever, And it was like, what
do you mean we're clothes girl?

Speaker 2 (27:52):
What we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I have no clothes? You have no clothes? Yeah? And
she goes, yeah, I was. I was trying to get
dressed and obviously all I have I can find with pajamas.
And I go, what did you wear when you went
to Burger King earlier today? That's her daily track. I
didn't go there, and she goes, I didn't leave the house.
I have left houses yesterday. Well, according to my tracker,

(28:15):
you did. You went to Burger King, and I know
you didn't go in your pajamas. I didn't go, don't.
I don't know what you're talking about. Oh my god. Okay, well,
I was also eating a little bowl. I was having
a little bow of ice cream, and I said, when
I'm down eating my ice cream, we'll go into your room. Well,
basically I was like, I'm going to go with you
to prove to you, to prove to you. But you know,

(28:36):
it's like it proves nothing. So I finished my ice
cream not even five minutes later, and I was like,
all right, let's go, and she goes, where are we going?
I sent into your room so we can find your clothes.
Oh okay, and she's real salty. We ate into her room. Well,
one of the things she said, she called had one
pair of panties. No pants. No, because she's wearing the

(29:00):
shirt it is so fucking tight. It looks like it's
cutting off her circulation really, because it's really old and
it's whatever. It doesn't she's a little thicker in the
middle of she's gotten a funny yeah. Well, so I
go in a room.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I go directly to her drawers.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
And literally pull out a dozen pair of panties and
I was like, well, here's you know, does marry pants?
She goes, okay, and he said, well you told me,
and then you didn't have any. Yeah, why didn't say that?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, I bought fucking bitch.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Told me you can only find one. And she goes, well,
I never said that. All right, well you did, but whatever,
here's pants. And I said, and as for tops and
pulling pulling out of the drawers like one, two, and
I pull out eight different times.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, well she doesn't have any.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
And she doesn't have any, and I'm putting them on
the bed next to her, and she was like okay.
And then they look and her three pair of jeans
that she wasn't wearing that day or has four pair
of by five O one button fly jeans. That's what
she wears. And they're all the same ties, they're all.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
The same everything. For the most part.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
There's two light ones, but they're all the same ties.
They're all everything, you know, other than the color. And
it was like, well, here's this pair. They don't fit me.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
They all fit.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
They fit yesterday this morning. Uh huh, you were wearing
the when you well, they don't fit. They said, you know,
they're just fresh out of the dryer, so yes, they're
probably a little snugger. And then they were yesterday because
you were in for a week at a time and
they get loose and whatever, but yeah, you're gonna have
to suffer through being snug for a few minutes. While
it was well, no, they don't fit. I can't even

(30:45):
give them up over my ease. Is bullshit or whatever,
I'm like, okay, well, the other three pair in the laundry,
even though I just did her laundryly two days before,
and I was like, fine, I will take these, I'll
go do laundry, and then maybe a hour later, she's
not on the other that don't fit.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Sure, Oh my god, I know she's I know every time. I. Oh,
yesterday I saw her. I was doing laun for me
and I see her. The kids are outside and she's
standing in the doorway observing them.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I don't know. She's the foreman of everything because she
thinks that she has to be in charge. But I'm
walking and she's all, oh hey, and I'm like I
hear her, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
What, and she's like, oh, I said hey to you
because I don't ever see you, Oh bitch. We see
each other almost every single day, and like you said earlier,
sometimes multiple times a day.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I see you all the tie.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I see you more other than anyone else in the
family other than you, you know, like what are you
talking about? But she just doesn't remember well. And it's
similar when no one's home next door and I and
she's all on a walk. I'll watch the tracker until
she gets home, and then I'll run outside and meet
her and walk her in, and she's always like so grateful,

(32:01):
like I just knew she was there, and I was like, yes, girl,
I just felt your presence and I knew you needed
to be let in. But then I, you know, she'll
get inside and it's the same old story about how
hot it is, but it's a beautiful walk, and she
saw her friends and it was such a great time, great, great, great.
And then I said, what do you want to watch?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
And I start giving her options and I don't lead
with Golden Girls anymore because she'll just choose that.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
But no matter what I say, she says, Golden Girls.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh, I haven't watched Golden Girls for so long, right,
which is so funny because you put it on for
her for a long time, and I always put it
on for her, so she's watched it from beginning to
end twenty twenty seven times.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, but that'll I know.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
She's so ridiculous, and she'll say things like, oh, I
saw your big old cat on the fence yesterday. Now
you didn't my cad doesn't go outside, Like what are
you talking about? But of course I say, oh, I'm
sure you did. I always just agree. I don't usually
disagree with her because she'll just get very pissy. Yeah,

(33:00):
I don't have the time or the energy.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
No, it's pointless.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, it's under some pointless and like, you know, I
think that.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's realistic that people should hear this. You know, it
does suck that she has to mentioned. She's a completely
different person, and I know it sucks for her and
it's hard for her.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
None of it's her fault. It's also irritating, and it's
also hard to deal with. And it's also she's just annoying,
and like, that doesn't mean we don't love her and
care for her and support her. It's just that sometimes girl,
we need to bitch and to deny that is I
think that's fools.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Caregiver burnout is very real, and I've talked to several
friends who've been in the same oat and say the
exact same thing. It's like, oh, yeah, there were times
I wanted to literally just strangle them, but of course,
you know, they can't help what's happening. Of course, yeah,
and so you have to take any deep breasts. And

(33:59):
my cousin and Anne was told me and her, you know,
sister Jeane, my two two of my favorite cousins. We're like, well,
when Grandma Patty had it, we just had to keep
telling ourselves, Uh, it won't matter on Tuesday. Yeah, it
doesn't matter on Tuesday's talking to matter now because they're
not gonna remember it, right right. But there are still

(34:19):
things where I lose my patience, you know, where I'm
just like, oh, like, someone was helping her fine clothes.
I open the top drawer of her dresser, and what
do I find in there? Food? Old sandwiches from Murger King,
And I'm oh, my god. I have found them in
there before, but not while she's in the room with me. Okay,
So I pulled them out of her. I was like, mom,
what the fuck are you doing? Why are you putting

(34:40):
food in your dresser? And she looked at me and
I was like, well, I don't know. I didn't put
it there, of course you did. None of us came
into your room and put food in your drawer and
she goes, well, I eat it sometimes and I go, oh,
your god, please don't eat food that's been hitting out
in your dresser. No, you're gonna get food poisoning.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, and you're too old and not healthy to get
fucking food poisoning.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
And really the toilet is girl well.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And also it'll just kill her, you know what I mean,
Oh my god, I know it's kissed me off well.
And there are things that I avoid talking about with
her anymore. I don't tell her when she's like, what
are you doing today, I don't say I'm studying. I
tried not to tell her about school all because I've
had the past several years of her being like, well,
you know when I was in school, or you know,

(35:25):
your cousin's Blabberdy and Blabberty were so good and they
have so many degrees.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
And I'm like, they're still in school.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, And I'm like, none of what you're saying years right,
and none of what you're saying to me is true,
you know what I mean, Grandma, you went, you took
like one or two college classes in your life. No
one else in my It's just yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
But she also took them for fun, for fun when
she get any kind of education, not to get a degree. Girl,
I know. And she went to CHAMIKAA in mcmahonville and
took a few classes, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
And she took one when I was younger about the
Holocaust and that was and she took it with two
of my cousins and like whatever, good time for her.
But it's one of those things that pisses me off
because I've worked so hard and I've always been academically
in kind that I'm like, girl, if you say, oh,
well they did it too, I will break your neck
right here, right, So I just avoid the conversation. Plus,

(36:16):
when she's like, well, what are you studying, I'm like stuff,
you know, like I explaining it to you. You'll ask
them to study.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I am, girl, I am.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I'm just reading a whole bunch of novels and calling
it an education.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Right. I read all the Harlequin novels that I could find. Yeah,
so now I am going to be a romance novelist
and my degree is in romance noveling novelization.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, novelization novelties.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah. Well, and I think probably for me, Uh, the hardest, well,
not the hard The hardest things is the complete and
total lack of empathy. And I know I've talked about
this before, just like when you say, you know this
thing happened to me, like I you know, like one

(37:07):
the other day, I'm limping around like the mummy, you know,
dragging my leg because I had hurt my knee. Sure,
and my knees are bad anyway, So periodically they will
just go, you know, I'm tired of your ship. Stop working.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Huh, I don't want I don't like it here.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
And if I say, yeah, my NIE's really her Oh yeah,
you know when my knee, it's always when my whatever,
when I did that, I know, instead of I'm sorry,
that's that's rough or hurts.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
And there's a difference between like commiserating like girl, tell
me about it, versus oh, I know when I did
the same thing, or when my back hurts, or when
I had that at the hospital, or when I all
the things that she's also done that haven't happened to her,
or maybe have happened to her when she was like

(37:54):
a young and you know, and she's like, well, I
know when I had both my knees removed and my
nose jobbed, Like, what do you fucking talking about? Like
that shit never happened, But she's like, why had it worse?
Sure Janne, right, sure.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Right, I know. I had to take her to the
doctor the other day. The stables removed from her head.
A couple of weeks ago. She decided, with her a
little short legs she should step over the dog. I
set them around, girl, and then tripped and fell and
hit her head and had to go get stitches. Well, stables, yea. Anyway,
took her the other day, and she had no idea,
of course, why I was taking the crosser, even though

(38:28):
I told her before we left. I told her when
I made the appointment. I told her several times on
the way there, you're getting stables out your head? Oh
is that what hurts on my head? Yes, bitch, yeah, bitch.
So it's like but we're in it. And we didn't
get to see her normal doctor because he was booked. Sure,
but we had to get the stables out. So I
went with different doctor who was had some openings that day.

(38:49):
No problem, except different doctor has no her history. So
different doctors like, well, if you're falling so much, maybe
we should get you some physical therapy so you can
learn how to maybe, And I'm like, you can't teach
her anything. She can't learn anything now because she will
hold onto it while you're saying it, which made me

(39:10):
think of my kid's birth mother when she would go
through a child like child what do you call it,
like how to like be a parent? Yeah, she would
do great on that day, but when she would come
back following we would remember none of it. Of course,

(39:32):
you know, because she is developmentally disabled and kind of
has the intellect of a ten year old maybe anyway,
but I kind of felt that it was like she
holds on to nothing, nothing, and so when she's the doctor,
God bless her, it's like, oh, you should, we should
do this and we'll have this and they'll teach you this.
And I finally I had to stop her, and I

(39:54):
was like, I know this is going to be not
good for me, but I said, you know what, at
the risk of me real unpopular at the moment, I
need to tell you that she has dementia and isn't
gonna remember any of this conversation in five minutes, which
I will too remember. It's like, no, you won't, Well,
that's okay, yeah, it is what it is. And the

(40:17):
doctor's like, okay, well you know you can still learn.
No you can't, No, you cann't. I mean I can
walk her. I can because I can tell her every day.
Don't step over the dogs. Why I put the dogs in?
Just say something, I'll move it off or kick the
dog in the ass and then make it move I
mean gently, but you know whatever. But it's like, now
she's not gonna learn. No, she can't. It's physically impossible

(40:39):
at this point. So it was just exhausting, but I was.
And then the doctor's like, okay, well, you on your
books have a thing where your doctor recommend wants you
to get blood tests. So when you go down to
the lab in the time it took us to go
down four floors, where are we going, uh huh yeah,
lab girl, because they're gonna drive your blood. Wow, why

(41:00):
are you going to take my blood? What? My blood?
I know?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, And after she had fallen, I was I think
it was after you guys were on vacation. You guys
went to the beach, right because I was watching the
Key next day. Yeah, okay, so yeah, he united and
I was hanging out with the kids whatever, making sure
they did their shit, blah blah blah, and I was like, oh, hey, Graham,
how's your head? Never had any complaints, No, just kidding.

(41:27):
She's like, oh, so, oh my, I heard you phone.
She's like, well, I didn't fall And I said, oh,
so your your head just split open out of nowhere,
and she's like, okay, so I fell, Yeah, bitch, I'm
aware I didn't fall, but I fell.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah. Well. And it was like when I had to
take her after she fell the last time and not
the last time, who knows, one of the most severe
times where she fucked her face up, and then I took.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Her to the doctor. The doctor was like, no, you
have to go to the er. And Grandma has no
idea what we're doing. She has no idea what's happening.
And how many times I had to be like she
has dementia, like because the people who check her in
are like, okay, can you tell me what today's date is?
I'm like no, she can't, and she is all she
would say her birthday over and over. No, meam, what's

(42:10):
today's day? She's like, oh, I have no idea, but
just reminding people like she has dementia and like we're
years and years into it at this point, like this
isn't new, you know, and she doesn't have any working
memory at all, right, so whatever, but yeah, I remember just.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Being like.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I'm the captain, you know what I mean. She may
be walking, but I'm in charge right now.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Like well, and so one of the things they tell
you is with folks with dementia is they will lose
all of the newest memories, but they usually hold on
to their old core memories. And for the longest time
that was true, yeah, but it is now some of
those core memories are becoming quite quite interesting, and she'll
be like, like you were at the end of the

(42:54):
night that she said that her grandmother had fifteen children
and she lived in Montana and then moved to Portland
had fifteen more and was like, no, well, first of all,
she didn't have thirty children. She never lived in Portland. Yeah,
she died in Montana. She had fifteen children. Yeah, that's
true for sure, But I know she died at the

(43:16):
age of sixty Yeah. Oh yeah, she was younger than
me when she died, which is crazy. Yeah, but she
was also you know, almost my age and had.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Fifteen children, and she also like worked a farming kind
of share her.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, she was a farmer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but
he's like what you know, So it's like many years ago,
I would say, probably three or four years ago when
I was doing some memory exercises with her and asked
her to name her aunts and uncles, and clearly I
just said she had. You know, my grandmother was one
of fifteen children and she named all of them.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
That's crazy, right, And.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Then she her father was one of seven I want
to say, she named almost all of them. One of
them she was stuff on his name whatever, but she
didn't really like them, so yeah, can hold on to that.
And but then could name her own children, but not
her grandchildren. Yeah, and this be showing your picture, well
who's this.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, there's a lot of grandchildren.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yes, she has fifteen grandchildren and twenty five great grandchildren.
Something want to stupid that none of the great grandchildren
have names. No, and most of the grandchildren don't have names.
But now you know, it's all become moddled. Well.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
She thinks that time periods are one time period, thinking
that like you and I were raised in the same generation,
thinking that, like you know she's still married or whatever.
It is like just random crazy shit that seems like
an obvious like, well, no, of course not. We weren't
raised in the same generation or you know we did, right.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
But because you were raised in her house, Yeah, I'm
just a very chunk of time. Yeah, you're one of
her kids that you were obviously raised at the same
time as her children, you know. And it's like because
she'll say to you, will you remember when this happened,
and it's like that was blank?

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and it's like you just
think I'm your youngest child, which is really right, you know,
which is all wild.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
But I will tell you another thing that pisses me
off is when she when she.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
We're telling a story about literally anything that and then
we're telling a story that didn't involve her at all.
She knows nothing about it, and she'll say, oh, I
remember that, Oh I was there, Oh I you know
I remember hearing that.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
No, ma'am, no, right, what are you talking about? So
Te's friend came over last night. Now, this is a
guy whose apparent changes enough from time to time. When
I see him offen recognize him, because like last night,
when last time I saw him. His head was shaped.
Last time time, he had long hair, and I'm all,

(45:51):
it's been quite a while time because he usually like
will meet up with him away from our house, but
he came to our house last night, and I'm all happy. Yeah.
But when when he said to mom, I was like, oh,
this is my friend, and she's like, oh, yeah, it's
been a while since I've never met him. No, no, whatever.
But when we're fourth of July, she turns to my aunt,

(46:14):
who she knows she was a baby, and like, well,
I just met you, right, So it's it doesn't matter,
it's you can't predict.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Honestly, No, it is all very jumbled, and there are
times for a longest time, I have just learned to
deal with her through deflection and humor, being like, well
we're gonna avoid that, and in agreeing agreeing deflection, humor.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
That's all I can do because the safest way, honestly.
But you know, the longer it goes on, there are
times that I find funny, but a lot of the
times I'm like, God, it's just trying, and it's sad,
you know. It's more of a just a depressing thing
that this woman who used to be like strong, you know,

(46:58):
and just like a haughtie and just woman.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yes, to be.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
A shell of her former self is.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Weird hammurgers in her drawer, girl, whatever it is, I know,
I know it is. It's very hard. And I think
that for me because I've lived with her for the
last fifteen years, and the last six of it have
been with dementia. Yeah, well, probably before that, but this,

(47:30):
you know, after diagnosis, it's I have just gotten to
a point where it's hard for me to see the
humor in any of it because it's just exhausting and
I just really I need a break. I need to
be away for like a month or two totally.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I feel like sometimes the only way too, if I'm
already in a mood, the only way I can deal
is if it's through humor. I'll just talk to her
and call her like, oh.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Y'alled HASI or whatever? You know, and she giggles and
things it's funny When I talk to her.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
She loves it.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So that's what I did to do. Yeah, well, and
I know that oftentimes when she's in one of her moods,
I will absolutely talk shit to her and she is hilarious. Yeah,
and so, and I know that at one point my
oldest brother got really mad at He's like, how can
you talk to our mother that way? And I go,
that's how we talked to each other. Yeah, you know
this is before the dementia. Yeah, because I was actually

(48:23):
picking her up from the hospital. She'd been in the
hospital for a week, and I think this might have
been what kind of kicked off the dementia because when
she went into the hospital, her sodium levels where electrolyte
electrolytes were like in the in the deficit, they went
straight to hell and they the doctor said, had she

(48:44):
waiting longer to get there, she probably would have gone
into a coma and died.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Crazy, right, And so she was in for a week.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
She who super crazy, thought her train ran through her room.
Thought she was standing at her friend Kim's house. And
I'm like, does your friend Kim have a lot of
medical by the way, you have no friend kid, whatever,
but whatever. So but when I just pick her up
from the hospital, my brother and his wife were there
and I was I said, okay, so are you about

(49:13):
ready to go? And she goes, yeah, we would probably
have I go listen crazy you know, you can't just
walk out. They're gonna coming in with a wheelchair and
check you out. You're gonna let you just walk down
the hall. I'll fall down in their hospital. And I said,
and she's laughing, of course. And then my brother later
texted me, He's like, how dare you speak? And I
wanted to say, listen, motherfucker. I speak to her every day.
You speak to her, what it's been months and she

(49:35):
spoke to her, so don't don't come for me. Huh yeah,
so whatever. But it's like, but now it's different, but
I still if I tease her about something, but I
also have to be careful because there's those days wherein
and she just gets pussy about it. Okay, there are
days though, most days when I can tease her, and
it has to be much more simple. I can't tease

(49:57):
her complex no no, no no, and then laugh. It's hilarious,
you know. Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
And also to anyone who doesn't have somebody with like
a degenerative brain disease or condition, or if you're in
my family, you can eat shit, bitch. Here's why. Because
we see her all the time. We hang out with her,
all the time. We take care of her and we yeah,
and like we know what there is to know of
her currently and you don't so eat shit and live

(50:29):
how I feel about it hard. Yeah, you live this
experience and then maybe you can say something until then
fuck off.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
You know. I did want on on that note, bye,
different topic. I actually wanted to bring up old celebrity
death who's from this week? Because this week we had
quite a few yea, but one of the ones that
probably nobody's talking about because she was an older celebrity
and most people like your age wouldn't even know who

(50:58):
she is. Your people, your people. Connie Francis died, and
Connie Francis was huge in the fifties and sixties. She like,
her biggest head was where the Boys Are Okay right,
But she had a whole lot of number one songs.
She was a big, big, big and then she also

(51:18):
made movies. But here's one of the things I find
that was almost more momentous I think in her lifetime
was in the eighties she came out very publicly with
her mental health issues, which nobody did that. Celebrities especially
didn't talk about their mental health issues. She came out

(51:41):
as being bipolar.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
And she also talked about her trauma because she was
sexually assaulted as a young woman.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Was she a white woman, yes, interesting, But.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
She talked about mental health things that celebrities, it was tabbed,
have to talk about, and most people still, even who
weren't celebrity, didn't talk about it. So I thought that
was really, uh, kind of brave of her. Now. Granted,
at that time, her career was pretty much was over, yeah,
and she was basically I'm sure living off the royalties

(52:17):
of all the music she had done. But for her
to come out so publicly with her mental health stuff,
I thought, you know, a lot of people at that time,
especially people of her age, hearing that. I'm sure, we're like, oh,
I'm not alone, you know, And if this famous lady
could talk about it, yeah, you know, honestly, I can

(52:38):
get some help for those things too, honestly, because it
was kind of, you know, a little me too movement
years before, in the me too moviment. Yeah, well, who
else died? Well again, whole COVID died. That piece of shit.
I could care.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I couldn't care, honestly, that racist, bigoted, Trump supporting, fucking
boot looking how I'm all dang dong or Witch's dad,
how you know, and you're only supposed to speak you
speak good of the dead, and he's dead, so good good,
I know well and honestly he cheated on his wife
and Brooke Hogan, his daughter, has spoken out against him.

(53:13):
She's like, he wasn't my dad. I'm not sad he's dead,
and I'm all bitch, he's not.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
He is legal, which he's now Here's another one that
someone younger isn't. Chuckman Gioni died. He was a jazz trumpeter.
Uh oh, Chucky. But of course the big one that
everyone's talking about is Ozzy Osborne. Yeah, you know, because Ozzie. Now,

(53:39):
I'm I've never been a fan. I don't listen to
his music and whatever. I didn't watch the Osbourne's I
know that you did when I was like a kid,
I was young, you know. But he also had oz Fest,
which was a huge, huge music thing, you know whatever
young music is still again, I didn't care about it.

(54:04):
But he was seventy six and had Parkinson's. Yeah, but
he also for most of the last what twenty years,
has been this kind of He's such a mess from
all the drugs that he did. He was like a
lot of alcohol, a lot.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Of drugs, and not a lot of care like Murtrician
or right.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
So I was spared to live that. Well.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, Heather Rachel, I love you so much, Please forgive me.
I don't care about Ozzie was born. I care about
in the fact that he was an icon and a
rock legend and people love him and look up to him.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I can't stand. I really can't stand Sharon olsborn and
Alsie and Sharon were both They had some views that
I disagree with, pretty hardcore, but I disagree with most
celebrities in this point in my life full stop.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
But yeah, when he died, I was like, oh, I
forgot he was still alive. Honestly, I was much more
sad about Malcolm Jamal Warner's death. I was shook. I
mean one because he was young, he was in his fifties.
But he also died. He drowned. Yeah, he drowned off
the coast of Costa Rica. He was swimming with his
daughter and he got caught in a riptide. Don't do

(55:23):
that now. I'm gonna tell you. The ocean sat the ocean.
I'm going to tell you that. Every year, and I
know I've said this before. Every year I went to
summer camp at the beach. And the first day of
summer camp, what did they do. They walked us down
to the beach, Sacrifice want to be and Sacrifice went
and threw it one of the kids into the rib
tides to see that was happening that kid. No, they

(55:46):
would talk to all of us and say, here are
some beach safety rolls, and they would tell us every year,
I could never turn your back.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Don't turn your back on the ocean.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I remember, be aware of secret waves, watch out for
the rip tide. And they're like and all of those things.
And they said, and if you get caught up in one,
swim float out, float and yes, or swim parallel, yeah, whatever,
don't try to find it because you will use all
your strength and they will drown. Yeah. And that's exactly

(56:16):
what happens is he got caught up on a rope
tide swimming with his eight year old and his daughter
is fine, she's alive and well, but traumatized because she died.
He died. It was like Naya Rivera's son where they
found on his mom's gone drowned.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Oh you know I couldn't. I already hate the water.
What are you talking about? What if I was a
child and so my parents drowned, I would be like,
we're moving to the desert. It can't be in your
water at all.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Right, I'm sorry, Is there anywhere so that several years
ago we were looking at maybe uh, relocating. Every place
I looked at it was anywhere near water. I'm like, Nope,
that's so funny. Oh there's a stream that runs. No,
there's a little pond. No, that was because like my
children were still fairly young. I'm like, I could just see,
you know, find floating in the teach them responsibility.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
You put shop collars on them, like I've been suggesting
for years.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
You know, you know what, I do have a shot
collar for my dog. I know, and I have only
once had to actually shock, and usually I just do
the little ringing bell I hat so and occasionally have
to go to vibration, but never go to shock. But
you know, maybe we could put the shop collar on
the old lady.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
She would not understand.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Well, you know, that would be much more for our entertainment.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Oh good, okay, okay, make dance Old lady, and of
course no, I would never was just kidding.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
We could get you know what we can do.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
We could get those perimeter you know, there's like the
invisible fence and the dogs were the collars and they
can't cross. We put those on your children, and then
live near water, and then the invisible pens will be
right before the water so they can get close to it.
They can't get they can't touch it. It's not torture,
it's for your own safety. We're terrible, We are terrible people.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Well, anyway, that's just life, man, I know. On that note,
we're gonna we're gonna check out.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
We're gonna get those fuck at.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
A summer day and girl, summer day, summer things to dopiness,
stay in the house.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And well we have family dinner tonight, which last week
you said, will you guys make family dinner next week
and we said yeah, sure, totally. And then last night
in bed before God and I passed out, we're both
like a second from mister Sandman. I said, oh fuck,
we have to make family dinner tomorrow, and Govin's like,
son of a bitch, I remember, I know, and we're

(58:49):
both like we remember hearing it. And then rapidly just
forgot and I'm like ghost sleep, no, love you good night.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Then I put this panicky in your head now know us?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Anyway, all right, well listen if you if you enjoyed
our craziness, then you know, come back next week. Yeah,
because we put up a show every Wednesday. We do,
and we've been doing this for almost four years now,
christ and having a great time doing it, and so
far we are not rolling in the benjamins, but we're

(59:24):
still fun.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Yeah, we have fun, and we get a chit chat
and talk all the ship about all the things.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Right to this episode. Usually we talked to a little politics,
which we didn't talk to. We didn't you know, even
Paul the ship going on with Julaine Maxwell and all
that crap. We didn't talk about any of that because
we want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Just whatever the we wanted. Children, my mother, you it's
very you centered.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
It is very we centered the world. So okay, like share, subscribe,
do all those things, all of it. And I know
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Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Review us, bitch, read us the house down, boots, bitch. Okay,
we'll be here next week and we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
We'll talk at you then bye.