It Would Seem As Though We Love Animals

This week we talk about why we like animals more than people. We also talk about fun with dementia.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:17):
It would seem as.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Though, hey, good morning, good morning, welcome back to you.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Would see as though back to it, it would seem
as though.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
A sm R.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Listen. There's only a couple of things we've talked about
this a s MR that doesn't make me feel gross
listening to so much a SMMER makes me like my
skin crawl.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
You know, I don't like the tapping of the night.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
I don't like.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
See now, if you have acrylic nails and you're tapping
on ship with your croylic nails, I'm in that, the table,
the window, the yeah whatever. Although I don't know if
I ever told the story in here, but tapping on
a stands with my cloth nails got me in big
trouble with my but I know, hard to imagine, I know.

(01:06):
But there's a commercial on the radio which I haven't
heard in a few weeks. But I don't even know
what it's for. But it's all done in that whispery
ASMR shit, and it makes my skin crawl.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
I honestly, it makes me uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
There are some things, like we've talked about this, like
a glass or ice clinking in the glass with liquid
in it. I think that's a beautiful sound.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Or the sound bubbles.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah, like there are certain things that I think are
a nice sound, but so many things that people do
that are trendy ASMR. And if you don't know what
ASMR is, it's just like your mic has turned up
really loud and people do like little noises like you
know whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
And it's supposed to be a lot of people like it,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Because it's supposed to stimulate some response.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Your gag reflex.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't know that's what it does for me, but yeah,
and I know that I'm also not the I'm not
the hardwared audience, so whatever, But there are some Yeah,
there are noises that I really enjoy. But then there
are noises that wouldn't be on an as m R
kind of thing, like you know, popping bubble wrap. I
enjoy that. Yeah, I also enjoyed doing it, but I
don't mind hearing it either. Yeah, but you know what,

(02:15):
I can't stand popping balloons? Oh me, And well I
learned something.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
My sweet man has kind of a phobia of balloons,
not and like a hardcore phobia, but it's the anxiety
that they might pop. So like if you're in a
room for a ballue.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, no, same I.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Balloons are fine to me. I have issues with them
for many reasons. But yeah, I the anxiety of it
making a loud noise, hate it, hate it stresses me
out right.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't even remember what I was watching the other
day where somebody was started like popping balloons and everybody
else is like going, God, knock it off it so
that it's like glarready started.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I have to keep all of that, all of them.
It was like, no, you're really, but you don't.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
You don't go in the bathroom, take the balloon before
you destroy whatever, but you stop it. Honestly, I can't.
And there are just certain things, weird things that I
cannot tolerate. It's one of them.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
Agreed.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Welcome to another episode of it seem as the other
podcast where we talk about anything, everything and nothing mostly nothing.
Clearly we're talking about balloons popping and yeah, so nothing nothing.
I am vesta.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I'm here mentally, are you No, I'm physically here and
spiritually dead. Just kidding, I'm anna sorry, Oh yeah, face,
you know what I am.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I'm kind of bummed. Why, Well, because we were supposed
to have lunch with our friend Lori Lee, and then
the weather decided to train bake her to death because
it was four thousand degrees, I know, and like a
sane person, she said, you know what, no, I don't
want to go outside. Yeah, grown blame you, Yeah, because
it was literally it was one hundred degrees and it
was like, right, I'm I'm pretty sure that going from

(03:57):
the car to the restaurant we would die. I'd have
been just a puddle of you know, he would have
gotten shorter as you melted, melted into maybe all what's
this multi colored puddle here? Yeah? That used to be
the best.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, that was our mom.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
But she's a puddle. But she's now just a puddle
of goose.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, honestly.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
So, I mean, yeah, I was bummed that we didn't
get to see her, but I totally understand.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean, and oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I totally get it because when you said, you know,
she can't tolerate the heat, I'm like, well, girl, same.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Same, same, I know.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
And that's Astra said we don't want our moms to
die and I said, no, now, grow way out. Well,
I yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the heat.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'm not a desert person.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Look at me, bitch.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm great with the dark. I know.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I belong in snowy or like Overcastle.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
You weren't afraid of the ocean, I'd say, you belong
in those deep depths where everybody is like white and wow.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Okay, so never have I.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Been Okay, So I just showed me this thing adorable.
What is it called a tell us.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
A telescopic fish or something. I'll look at up again.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Hold, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
First of all, it looks like a Doctor Sue's character.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, a telescope fish.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
A telescope fish. It's a new.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Newish discovered Yeah, because it's at the bottom of it.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
So look it up because you'll just be like, oh
my god.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's cute.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
It's so hard and you know what.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It does when you look at its face and then
it's like it looks like it has you know, Doctor
Sue's kind of mustache, Yeah, puppy ears and whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
It looks so cute, I know.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
And so when I saw it, you know, I don't
really super love a lot of underwater creatures because they
skilled me. But I saw that and I was like,
are you thinking kidding me? And the videos of it,
because it's just like boo, like back and forth, smiling.
I'm like, I could die right now, and this is
the cutest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, I have decided lately that there are lots of
things that pretty much kill me. Yeah, like because of cuteness,
over because cuteness, cuteness, death by cuteness.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I sent my husband this video of this blind cow.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
And the blind cow's mama and the whole family really,
but you only see the mom in the video has
made this cow's life such a dream. So what they
did is like in its corral, they put pool noodles
on every single board so that when little cow runs
into the fence, it doesn't her. They gave him this

(06:19):
water fountain for where he drinks, so that he can
hear where the water is, and they gave him wind
chimes to lead him to where his house is. But
he also wears this cute little kind of helmet, but
it's a soft helmet so that when he does run
into things he doesn't get hurt. But he also lays
in his mama's lap and she like scratches his head

(06:40):
and gives him lovins. And it's just like I watched
this whole video just thinking I'm dead. I'm literally dead
from the cuteness. Honestly. That's in this time in the
world where so much shit is so stress making, watching
like videos from the Dodo where it always starts out
with like, oh my god, this animal is distressed, yeah,

(07:01):
but it finds its family. Dogs are kind of amazing
to me because they can be so abused and so
like at the end of their robe and then somebody
gives them love and they're just like wagging their little body.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I saw one where.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
The poor dog was supposed to be I was like
the size of our dog, so it's like, should be
like a seventy pound dog and it was thirty pounds,
so it's all boned. Yeah, and as soon as somebody
started loving on it and stuff, it's poor little draggle
bodies just wagging. That just shows you the the ability

(07:35):
for that dog to love, yes, you know, and how
it was like I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
And to me, it makes me cry because it makes
me think like this dog just waited and was like someday,
you know what I mean, someone would love me, and
like the fact that it was just so excited to
be touched is like sweet and heartbreaking. I was watching
a lot of videos Dodo, very Dodo esque videos of
like like a stray mama cat bringing her kitten to

(08:01):
a human and like it would be like freshly born,
and so that she's running back and getting all her
other kittens to bring to a human. That shit, Like,
if animals trust, you, don't break that trust, bitch.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
If that is.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Bringing you her babies, because she does anywhere to go,
you trust that you take care of those baby, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Like those kind of videos ruined my life because I'm
like I would have now seventeen cats, you.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Know, yeah, And so those I mean, I love them,
but they don't surprise me as much when it's a
domesticated animals. But I've seen one more like an eagle
will come and find someone, help likes get its partner.
That's like caught up in a yeah, by netting kills me.
Or when what was the one I saw the other day?
It was a fox, okay, and it came and found

(08:45):
a human and it kept barking. And by the way,
no matter what that song says, a fox does not
say ding ding ding d ding.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
It does not live. It barks like a Pomeranian.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Cute, but it came and it found this human and
it kept barking at them, and then it would run
and it would come back and bark and run, and
it was like, follow me.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I'm on a dumb ass. I was showing you you
need to follow me.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Literally. So finally the humans like, oh, it wants me
to follow it, and so they followed it and it's
mate was stuck in something I can't even remember now,
and so to get the made out, of course, they
had to be super careful.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's a wild animal, you know, and now she's in.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Distress and she's gonna bite you whatever. So they they
got her out and whatever, and of course they were reunited, happy, happy.
Well then they kept coming back to the human's house
like to be like, look, we're still good, we're happy,
thank you for saying whatever. And then when they had babies,
they brought their babies back to meet the humans. And

(09:42):
it's like and I've seen that with a deer, yeah,
and I like kills me yeah yeah yeah, but it's
like if yeah, and like you said, if, if this
thing trusts you, don't break that drunk no.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
There, And okay, I saw a really cute one, this
dog a chocolate lab came in and that and the
mom was like, what do you have in your mouth?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And it's all.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Nothing, you know, still in the mouth, close nothing, and
she's like what do you have? And she saw two
little feet just sticking out and she's like, do not
bite down, like open your mouth, and it wouldn't. Finally
it spit out. It was a little baby rabbit. And
she's like, where did you get this from the backyard?
And he went and showed her and there was like
a little burrow that the rabbit and then the mama's
in there with all these babies. So they put like

(10:22):
a little fence around it. And so his name was
like Toby, and it's uncle Toby guarding the babies and
it's just him like and then you know, sniffing them
and then laying next to him all day, right.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And like, oh I love that. Honestly, Gibby, I.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Wish i'd watch that hall because I've seen that and
I was like, I can't get past the video with
the dog with feet.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Hanging out of I know, well it was like Dodo,
so I know it wasn't going to die.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I knew that. I knew the baby wasn't going to
die in his mouth. But I was like, what is it?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Because I mean, growing up, growing up in you know,
the country, how many times did cats or dogs bring
shit home?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
All the time we had.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
When when I was a teenager, we had an old
male cat who I think his greatest goal in life
was to be a mom.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
What's his name?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Cosgrove where he would bring whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean, he brought us baby bunnies, kittens, you know,
different things, and he would just one by one he
would go out into the field and come back with
these things. And by the way, rabbits are not really uh,
they're not really built for that kind of trauma because
it scares them and then they have heart attacks and die.
But as babies they're a little more sturdy than they

(11:28):
are as adults, which seems like it should before because
the full grown rabbits, you know, you scare them.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
They're dead fainting goats. But they died.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
But if you've ever heard a rabbit scream, it is
like unnerving because they scream like a human.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
That's scary.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And the first time I heard it, I was probably
middle school age and I'm like, what the fuck is happening?
Because it was coming like from our neighbor's yard, and
I'm like, what is happening. Well, our neighbor had a
bunch of rabbits, but he was picking them up by
the ears, I see, which is how they tell you,

(12:06):
you know, like pick them up by the.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
The base of their ears and the scruff of their neck.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah. Well they still don't like it, yeah, of course,
And so they're screaming, and I'm like, okay, I'm just
gonna say I'm not I'm not, you know, into animal husbandry,
but I do, you know, know a few things because
we've raised animals my whole life. If they're screaming, they're
not this probably hurts them or they don't like it,
so stop it. Yeah, yeah, pick them up right and

(12:36):
stop it.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I know I can't handle it. I don't like when
people are shitty to animals. I don't like it when
people are just like, well, it's just a fill in
the blank, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's just a yeah, mama, what do you mean?

Speaker 4 (12:49):
And of course, you know, one of my favorite things
in the world are pigeons because they make me sad.
But I saw this guy in major city, I don't
know where it is, and he all these. He saw
this pigeon that wasn't putting weight on one of its foot.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Feet, one of its foots.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
God, words are hard.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Words are hard. I was really struggling with words yesterday. Yes,
but we're doing great today.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So he's throwing food and then he saw he got
close enough so he was able to grab it and
it was just like hair and then like twine and
shit that got caught in its foot, so he was
able to cut it and then use a seam ripper,
and the bird was like fine. But I'm like, if
he hadn't done that, that bird would have died, do you
know what I mean? That bird would have had one foot,
wouldn't been able to fight off other birds or whatever
to get food, whatever. And I'm like, it took him

(13:33):
maybe ten minutes, right, and he just took a bird
circulation came back.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
The bird was fine and flew away, Like I think
we should be a little more.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Conscious and aware of what's around us in regards to
natural life, animals, plants, all of it, because that's what
we I mean, in reality, we've built all of this
other shit, the Internet, you know, cities, the global landscape.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
It can all be taken away.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
It can all go away.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, but nature persists.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think that's one of the things that we've really
learned by like the mudslides and the wildfires and the
different things, is like how quickly can be taken away?
Back to the animal thing. One of the things that
I taught the children very very young that they are
absolutely moltant about is.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
The soda can rings.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
And it's like, because when we buy most soda doesn't
even come at it anymore. But the soda water that
we buy comes in a flat, but each in six packs.
They're all on their rings. If you even think about
throwing one of those things away without cutting every bit
of it up, my children will have They will come
a bit, Yeah, they will, because it's like, what about

(14:45):
the fish?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Are Oh that turtle? You hate turtles?

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I guess right? Wow?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Who know? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, no, I I know. I just don't know. Why
do you hate the world? Oh so you hate nature?

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Oh you fucking human trash?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I feel that same way. I just girl anymore.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
I'm like, if any animal came to me needed help,
it doesn't matter what it is, I'm gonna help you. Yeah,
I mean, it could be alligator, I'd be like, Okay,
I'll reach your mouth and get your thing out of your.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I'll do my best.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I don't know. If it's an alligator, I would be like,
I'm going to call the alligator doctor because I can't he.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Doctor. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
That reminds me of there's a shel Silver Steam poem
and I can't remember what it's called, but it's like
this alligator goes to see the dentist, you remember that one,
and the dentist is a total statistic dentist who was like,
for fun pulling the alligator's teeth, and then the alligator
has enough and eats.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Like you should.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
He had a comm That's the whole poem, you know.
And I think that's a good motto. So yeah, I mean,
you know you pull out this, you know health, you're
gonna sorry, Mary, what that's how they That's how they live.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
We got to have those.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah, what do you think they're gonna do? Just gum
things to death.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Crocodiles and alligators though, just the very idea of them
scares me so bad. Agreed, because I mean they kill
you without even thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, I want you to know I learned something.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
But there are.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Maybe there's five, but I can only think of four
animals in the entire world that if humans are around,
they will choose to hunt humans over other animals.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Can you can you guess at all?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I'm assuming alligators.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well, actually it's a specific type of crocodile. It's the
nile from the Nile rivers. We will actively seek out
humans to hunt, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
They gotta come.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yeah, bears, not bears, polar bears, specific tigers. If there's
humans around, they will choose to hunt a human. And
I think the one is like a panther or jaguar,
they'll choose to hunt humans.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Okay, isn't that kind of scary?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It is because you know, all of our life were
told that lie. Yeah, that you know, if you don't
bother them, they won't bother you, And clearly that's not
true with something things.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
But it's like, why are you in there right?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well?

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I mean, well I do think about two. I mean,
for polar bears, there are Inuit people you know, first
nations who live closer to polar bears, you know, or
people in Africa who live closer to like tigers than
lions and shit like.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
So sometimes if.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
You're But I think that people who probably live yeah
with them, yeah now are smart enough to not go
should well, and.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So like those people.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
I think that indigenous people who live close to the
wild animals and know how to deal fine, But I
don't think people should be going out and fucking with No, that's.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Silly, but I feel that way about all kind of natures.
This is not your habitat, this is not your A
few years back is probably work. It was probably twenty
years but I don't know. There was a big thing
about these people in Colorado who would go jogging and

(18:10):
get attacked by mountain lions. Well, you built this whole
community in their habitat, and you destroyed their habitat, so
you could.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Build this whole community.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, and the where were they supposed to go? So
the mountain lions like, fuck you, You're an hour and
we're gonna eat you, so fuck off. And so people
were running would go jogging and whatever and get attacked and.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Be like, oh my god, we have around up all the.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
No, you need to move, yeah, girl, or bring a.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Blowhorn with you, you know what I mean, Bring a
stick with you, bring rocks, like there are ways people
live in nature, have lived around in nature forever. Yeah,
people do get attacked, but if you're not just acting
headphones in and prey running from a mountain lion, right
then guess what, you'll be fine, you'll be better.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
But you have to be cautious.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You can't be a city person moving to the country.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Don't build your house in their habitat. So the other
story that I just loved was in Australia, they built
this super upscale bougie neighborhood and it was in Capabera.
It was there like their habitat, and the people pushed

(19:23):
all the capaberos off their you know land or whatever.
Well the cap is like, no, this is our land,
funk off. And so you see pictures and these people
have all these caps are huge. Yeah they am, but
they're also apparently very tame and yeah they're.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Very docile and docile.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
That's the way it's look for it. Anyway, they can't
do anything about it because they're protected.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Protected.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Like these people in their bougie house with their bougie
lawns and their have these giant roads.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
There's pooping on their fancy lawns.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Is like, oh, I know.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
And they're sturdy and they are people like pet them love.
I'm like, I would love it, are you? I would
want to I want to move there specifically because caapy
bear are there.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's the only thing there, because everything else they're terrified
in Australia. Yeah, you know, the deadliest spiders, the deadliest,
and they're.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Like if you swim, if you swim on this ocean,
you might die because there's this poisonous fish that lives
in and then there's.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
And then there's because there's blue.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Bottles, which are a type of jellyfish which are poisonous
and they're not will give you a little sting, they
will kill you different things. It's like, so Australia, what
is wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
I know, white people moving into a place where they
shouldn't have a long ass time.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Ago, did I tell you about.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I was watching a video and this guy saw a
little blue octopus in a tidepool no, and he wanted
to try and get it out to put it in
the ocean. So it's out of the tide pool, but
it was kept swimming away from him. And it's bright blue.
And I don't know if you've learned anything. Things are
brightly colored in nature. They're poisonous. Yeah yeah, yeah, like

(21:07):
blue poison dart frogs. Oh yeah, like brightly colored frogs
are typically poisonous, right, venomous. Sorry, So he's like.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Trying to get out.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
But then at one point the little octopus squid whatever
like shoots water at him as a warning, right, like
I swam away from you. You keep trying to get me whatever,
and he keeps fucking with it. Nothing happened after that,
but people were like that type of octopus like one
piece of its venom, one little it has the ability
to kill like twenty humans, right, and you're fucking with

(21:38):
it trying to get it in the ocean, like, leave
it alone.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know, it was fine without you.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, the tide will rise, we'll go back out.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
There's a reason hyde pools are swimming.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, with all kinds of nature.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yes, they're meant too.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, you know, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
And I was like I wish it would have killed him.
I just wish it would have killed him.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
If you see something like some sea creature on the
b she's getting dried out and whatever, you know, sure
help that.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
If it's a blue ox pus, maybe they kill you.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
But you know, maybe you have it comments. Yeah, but
because you said me that video, the woman's trying to say,
the horseshoe.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Crab, oh my god, killed me dead. It's so fucking crab.
It was like an alien a bug.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I know. They look like a giant.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Bug under shell.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it's actually going to
kill you, but it looks like it could.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, it looks like it could.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Because it looks like there's this long stinger from tail.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't think that. I don't think. I think it's just.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
But no, but they look unsettling if you if you
look under their shell, they're alien and there's too many legs.
I know, I don't like it with that video.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm not a fan of anything with too many legs.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
No, girl, I'm not even a fan with humans and
they only have two I know.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Wow that's true, girl.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
But yeah, the horseshoe crab. This like, this woman's partner
is filming her as she is like trying to flip
it over because it was on its back and it's
like a turtle, right, it was not able to get
roll over anyway, so she tried to flip it and
then at one point she flipped it and her wife
was like, Okay, it's good. She's like, nope, it's too
far away from the ocean. So she picks it up,

(23:12):
trying to pick it up until.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
She's terrified the whole time that it's going to get It.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Has like weird crabs.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It's a crab.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
There's crab legs.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
It's creepy.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
She grabs it, picks it up in shirts, running towards
the ocean, and she biffs it. She trips in each
and I don't know the horshe crab flew a little bit.
I'm not really sure, but luckily she didn't land on it.
She was impaled by its fucking singer. And then, honestly,
I was more concerned for the crab and me too.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I thought, oh my god, this lady's gonna fall in
That poor crab was trying to save it.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
I thought it was so I'm glad she saved it.
And I love that there was a little silly moment
in between, because that was.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And then then they edited the video to show that
whole moment because it was so good. It isn't enough
that you were when you fell on the beach. You're
carrying a crab, but we want to see it one
more time in slow mode, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
But honestly, if that was me, please play in slow motion, because.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
How fucking funny.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, you know, when I had the last surgery that
I had, I told I told my husband. I was like,
I really need you too. When I'm in that loopy
stage if I'm talking at all, I want you to
record it because I wanted because I can't remember what happened,
and I'm like, I don't I doubt that I said
anything brilliant. Yeah, but probably pretty funny, you know, because

(24:29):
at least it was probably goofy and didn't and of
course he didn't. He was like, well, you know, I
didn't want I didn't want to be in trouble because
you know, I put something. I didn't ask you to
post it on social media. I wanted to see it.
But what was funny is the nurse when she came
back in the room said, you know, under.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Anesthesia, you're quite sassy.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And I was like, oh what I said because my
my remembering of the situation. They in the little prep
room where they're getting ready for surgery. They gave me.
Then I fell asleep forever. Left the room.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, I don't know, but I was like.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
And you couldn't record that.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
No one could have had my phone handy.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I probably because I looked. I'm sure just awful
because you know, for surgery, so I did my hair
and make it.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
And they wouldn't allow you to anyway.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I know when I went for surgery, they gave me
like anti anxiety med whatever. As I'm sitting my room
and I'm just chitty chatty, and they take me into
the surgery room and I'm like, I don't I've had
an a segere before, but we'll see. I smoke weed
all the time. They like, okay, count I'm all ten,
like oh yeah, I know honestly. And then thirty seconds

(25:52):
l I woke up and they're all done, and I'm like,
how long has it been there? All like thirty minutes?

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Okay, Well I know that one time went because I
have of atrial fibrillation or aphib atrio fibrill Yeah, it
sounds all fancy. They work for the firm of atrial fibrillation.
I was like, oh my god. Uh when I one
of the times I had to be you're cardio shocked, ye,
But it's like where you see on TV where they

(26:17):
shocked them a little clear, but in real life it's
not quite that dramatic. But anyway, I had to be cardioverdict.
And if they're gonna do it to you intentionally, they
have to knock you out. Well, how come because it's
hurts and shocking and it's literally shocking. Yeah, you know
that's like that would be traumatic. But the nurse was,

(26:40):
you know, in talking to me and saying, here's what's
gonna happen while you're telling me the whole process, and
then trying to find a vein to put in the
I V so they could knock me out and couldn't
find a vein, you know, I know, so they look
they're like, oh, here's a good one in your foot.
It was all you know, which I do. But what

(27:00):
she didn't tell me is when the anethesia goes and
it's gonna burn like motherfucker. So and I was like, oh,
so she puts it in and she goes, oh, I'm
sorry for I tell you burns.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Well I got that now that And so after she.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Finished administrating and administering was an administrator administring, how she
ask me something I don't remember like if I had
any questions wrong ago, Yeah, how long should this all
take it? She goes, oh, you're done? What She goes, yeah,
you immediately went out. We did it where you've been

(27:35):
asleep for a while, And he was like no, because
you just literally and I just said yeah, and you're like, sorry,
I didn't tell you.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
She was like, that was two hours ago, right, that
That shit to me has always bananas, like actually losing time,
not like when you go to bed at night, like
in the morning, but.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Like when you dream.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah, when you're put to sleep and you wake up,
you're like, it's only been a hot minute, right, No, girl,
you've been asleep for three years like you were, did
you okay? I have a question about when you get
cardio verted. Yes, they knock you out right, so you're
sleepety time and then they go clear and they hate you.
Do you Are you all aware?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Once? Because I've had it done, I think, well, I've
had it done multiple times, but most of the times
I was actually in surgery, sure, so I was out out. Yeah,
But the very first time I ever had it done,
it was the first time I ever went to the
hospital with a FIB and they were they tried to
get me back and really remembering my blood pressure and

(28:35):
stuff back down with drugs, but it went all it is,
bring my blood pressure down to a dangerous level. Oh god, Okay,
never mind, so we're gonna cast. So we're gonna now
send you over to the hospital where they specialize in
hearts and blah. That was my one really ambulance riding
exciting as you might think. No, riding in a car
lying down I haven't done since I was a child.

(28:56):
It's not fun.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
No, I didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
But the tomest part is when they rolled me into
the hospital, they left me sitting for a minute while
they were like sanding prepers and stuff or whatever word
to put me underneath a convex mirror. Do you know
how awful anyone would look under a convect and Mike
right underneath it. I'm like, really, wow, I already look

(29:21):
horrible because I've been up, you know, for all these
hours I stood in But they told me when they
gave me the drugs to do it, which is hours later,
they said, you'll be in like light sleep, but you
won't feel any you won't remember anything. And I immediately
went in full sleep. But I remember waking up when
they did it, just for a split second, yeah, because

(29:44):
I remember going and then back out. Cool, but I
was aware of it.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But that's so nice. Yeah that was the only time.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, it's my biggest fear for when I, uh, like,
when a medical professional knocks me out and then I
wake up during No, that's a nightmare to me.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Okay, so you know, talking about it, we're talking about
being loopy and all. That makes me think of when
I took your grandmother to have her eyes done.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Jesus right.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
It was so fucking funny because when they left here,
they left home, they said, give her this drug. So
by the time you get here, she'll just be relaxed,
you know, and a little loopy, Yeah, a little. But
then we can when we give her the thing here,
it'll be like almost instant that she'll go out. We
can do our surgery. Blah blah blah. Yeah. Well, we
live on a like one hundred and twenty seconds, and

(30:33):
the clinic was downtown, so you know, like one hundred
and fifty ish through morning traffic. Well, we get about
halfway there and just suddenly the goofy turns on and
it was like instantly I could tell like, oh yeah,

(30:53):
now because we're driving along talking about normal shit, and
then suddenly she's all, this neighborhood is so look at
these houses. Oh my goodness, they're so old. And so
it was like, okay, Mary, yeah, I almost bought a
house here with your father. Wait what No, you didn't

(31:15):
talk whatever, And it was but then it was all
this like, uh, you know how drunk people like reminisce about,
and it's all like, I remember, I love you so much.
Do you remember that time we did whatever? Yeah, and
it's like shut up. But I did not want her

(31:35):
to show because it was fucking and she was high
for a long time, like hours.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, it was possibly the best day ever.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, because it was so funny.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I remember that day because you said I was coming
home from work and you had taken Grandmato.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I said, the vet to the.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Doctor appointment and then brought her home and no one
else was home, and so when you get home from work,
where you check on the old lady? And so I
was like, yeah, I had to leave to get like
this or something. Yeah, And so I went down the
stairs with a little hay Graham and she was just
so goofy and I remember she's like, I really want
a cold coke, and she didn't, and she wanted it
specifically in canes absolute and I said again, and she's like,

(32:15):
will you, honey, will you go give me a cold coke?
And I said, yeah, of course I will. So I'm like,
I'll be right back. I'm going to Safeway, which is
literally a block away from our house, and I go
and I get the coke and I'm coming through the
front door and I hear noises of someone walking and
I go to like where, because her room was in

(32:36):
the basement right She's walking up the stairs and I'm like,
what you doing.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
She was like, well, I'm gonna go look for Annaka.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
I don't know where she is.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's me, bitch.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
What do you mean you send me to go get
you coke? She's like did I Yeah? And then we
sat upstairs and I made fun of her a lot,
and we just talked shit, and she was just so
goofy and loopy that everything I said was so funny,
and everything she said was like off the wall, but
she's it's I love that version.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But a different off the wall that it is now.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Now it's just like, God, I know oh.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So, you know in our ever, you know, evolving tales
of the old, I know, so one of the things.
And I know I talked about this a little bit
last week that she was recently hospitalized.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
She's fine where that's concerned.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
But as often happens when people old people with dementia
are hospitalized for anything, it kind of kicks the dementia
into high gear and it takes it from one level
to a completely different level, and they usually don't kind
of come back to where they were before that, which
is what we've been seeing. And the other day she's

(33:53):
pacing her version of pacing, because she walks very slowly
and very drunkenly, and she's not but her feet look
like I don't know how she walks about falling, Yeah, feet,
her toes like meat. And I was like, oh, and
I do me an opposite feet. The toes are the right,
but are like pointing is.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Like well, and she doesn't pick her feet up and
she doesn't pick her feet up right anyway.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So after the third or fourth time going to her
room and coming back, which our hallway is what maybe
ten feet long maybe, yeah, you know, and every time
she would come back and she would like sit down
for a second and then get hot back up her
version of pop back up and then go back to
her room. And I said, what you doing, mom? And
she goes, just I'm just checking out my animals, and

(34:41):
they go, what animals?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Right, she goes, the animals are in my room that
have always been there.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
And I was like, and I just looked at.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Her, okay, you know, and sure jan and.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
She's I didn't like steal them, They've always been there.
I didn't accuse you of stealing anything. But it's like
all right, and so she goes, I've had you know,
my i' you know, my cats that have been there
for everyone was like in my head because out loud anymore,

(35:22):
it's like the had a live cat in quite some time.
So if you're in there checking on your tiger or
cougar that's hanging on your door or you know, it's like, are.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
You so like kind of out of it now that
these animals feel real?

Speaker 4 (35:39):
She's like, here's your French fire and she's feeding the picture.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I know because she has you know, these those metal
uh silver tigers.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
And silver so they look nothing like a real and
they don't move and they.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Don't and she has like big pictures of like, yeah,
and a cougar and well them's the old cat that's
in your room now.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
But it was just like okay, sure, Joan, yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
When you told me that the other night, I was like,
what what cats?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
What animals?

Speaker 4 (36:15):
We're assuming they're cats. She has gearbils and guinea pig's back, she.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Has dust bunnies, dust mites, skin mites.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
I don't know, but it's like okay, yeah, honestly, yeah,
I know she's cocoa creature.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, and so yesterday she went out with my oldest brother.
This is his family who she had no idea who
they were I know, which.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Was like, okay, well I don't know who those people are.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Even when I said, because usually up till this point,
like if I just said, when you're gonna go hang
out handa, if she just said if she just said,
like who's Handica, but like you know, blah blah blah,
oh yeah, yeah okay, and then it would always be
that moment of recognition. Well, when they told her it's like,
well you're going to see you know, your son and
his child, and lah, don't ring a bell.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I was like, oh, I mean because yeah, or nearly
she'd have been.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Like, of course, right, yeah, but nope, she was just like,
doesn't ring a bell?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Who are these people?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Right? Well? Then my oldest brother's name and when she
was when I was talking to me, he said yeah.
I asked her, like how her visit was with my
other brother Bryce, and she's like, well, I haven't seen
him in years, and she had literally seen the day before. Yep,
they spent the entire day.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Well, that's why she does that ship all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Well, she says to you, why I have seeing you
in forever?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I know? Well, and then when yesterday, girl, I see
you multiple times a week. Well, and the day you
went to take the kids to register for high school
and I hung out with her, and she like every
five seconds, had no idea where anyone went, and no
one told her anything.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
They went to the school to register.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I knew it.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
They went to the school. I'm like, did you know it?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Man?

Speaker 4 (37:57):
But it was always like I said something because I
knew Bruce or Bryce, one of her sons is gonna
come get her. And she was like, oh, well, I
haven't seen him in years. And I'm like, what you
see him weekly?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Right? And it was.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
At the same time, she got a card from her
oldest son's daughter, right.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
And she was like, well, who is this? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
That's hard and I like we opened the card and
I read it to her and she was like who
is that? And I'm like, okay, well this is this
granddaughter and she's married to this guy and they have
this son, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
She was all oh right, like she has no It
was all like they knew she was sick. Yeah, hospital.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
And then I was like, oh, and your card says
like oh, I'm you know, we're praying for you. Where
God you're better and you were.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
In the hospital.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
And she's like looked at me in that whole like smug, like, well,
how do they know I was in the hospital? Bitch?
I didn't tell them. What the fuck do you mean?
They have a father who probably told them.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm not sure this is you in the hospital, so.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
I'm sure, but she hasn't seen him in years, so
I so that is, you know, fun with dim Also,
I don't understand it. I old people are so bothered
someme a lot of the time, because I hate it
when they're like, well, don't tell anyone.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
I'm sick, and don't tell any when.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
I've been in the hospital, and don't tell any when
I forgot that, Like, shut up, listen.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I'm going to take you back to when she was
hospitalized the last time that she was a major hospitalized
because she was in there for a week. Yeah, and
it was like this was before dementia, at least before
she was diagnosed. Yeah, so I think it was already happy,
you know, But it was one of those It was
just the weirdest whole thing because, uh, it was when

(39:37):
she was still working and she came upstairs and she
says to me, so, could you maybe when you're when
you know you're done working today and when I'm home
from work, would you maybe have time to take me
to the emergency room. And I was like, wait, what, Well,
you know how I keep falling? No, this is news. Well,

(40:01):
since they changed my meds, I keep falling again. News.
I haven't told me that. I haven't seen you fall.
I didn't know you fall and I'm seeing me like
marks on you from right And she was like, well, yeah,
I just don't feel right. I keep falling. Yeah, so
neither one of us is gonna go to work.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
What are we talking about I will drop.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
The kids at school on the way to the hospital
because the hospital is just like a mile from our
house probably, and so she was like, well, I'm okay,
I guess if that's you know. So it sort of
emergency room, and it was one of those days where
they got us kind of right in, which was shocking,

(40:40):
but it was probably because it was like a Monday
morning at like eight, you know, and take her in
blah blahlah blah. They'd see her and can't quite fear
other than the like she's super hydrated and her sodium
levels are really low and her electual lights are.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Like yeah right, and but we're gonna admit her into
the hospital.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Okay, great. Well, every day that I came to see her,
she was cuckoo crazy. Like one day when I called her,
she was all, well.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, I met my friend Kim's house.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
I'm like, what, You're in Kim hospital, intensive right, you're
in intensive care?

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Uh, you know, it's like whatever. And I was like, Kim, Kim,
who kis hospital? And I get there and she's just like, yeah,
my friend Kim is so nice.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
She let me come stay with her. And I was like,
your friend Kim in.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
A hospital girls because girl girl host Kim she Rass.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
But this I think was foreshadowing of things to come,
because she, like, you know, she got bed to catch
the trolley. That's when she was coming to her room
because the train was coming into her bathroom. No, that's right,
like it does to take her to work. Mind you,
this woman has never written a trolley in her life.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Did you even ride them when you were in San Francisco?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
No? No, no, And she drove to work, never caught
a bus train, Lley, even when she didn't have a license,
she drove to work, right, But it was like, so
you got out of bed to catch a.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Trolley in the hospital in your bathroomw.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Cool and fell in like had to have stables put
in her head. But and it all seemed perfectly reasonable
to her. Yeah, it was like, well what is that wrong?
But it was like, like I said, this should have
been foreshadowing of things to call high and know.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
But it was also hard because she was like, no
electro lines, no hydration, none of this. And so it's like, well,
her body's holding which makes you crazy, crazy crazy and
can kill you.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
When they told me, had we waited even other day
she probably would have gone into a coma, And that's
crazy to me, not gone into tacoma, which is too.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah. I need you to know, drink water, stay hydrated, y'all.
That's shit's crazy to me. And people who don't drink water.
If you're hanging out with people and they don't drink
water all day, you're like, are you? Are you okay?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well?

Speaker 4 (43:20):
And I remember growing up in adults in the white
trash Countryville. We're like, I don't want the tyst of water,
so I drink pepsi and like and the fact that
all you drink yeah, stepmother, Yeah, I drink mountain dew
or doctor pepper pepsi. Yeah, they're just drinking the fuck
out of it. And I'm like, and never drinking water.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Well, that's your grandmother. And to this day, I mean,
it's like, you're only gonna get better if you drink
water because to get rid of the infection and stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
They're like, you need to drink lots of water.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Well, I'm you and my best which means you she
has a sip of water pill, h huh. And now
it's like if she doesn't drop the pill, because would
she hold her hand out to get the pill her
hands usually kind of more like she's gonna shake your
hands out sideways, and that's not really gonna you know,
I'm here.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
We keep finding pills, just getting airsoft gun and start
shooting them in her mouth. Do you open up?

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Fun?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Yeah, that she chokes them down.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
My aim is terrible.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
But airsoft gun, squirt gun, pill water, water water pill
water water water and when she's misbehaving shooting with water
or the airsoft gun whatever, man, you know, fuck her up.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
I don't know, I'm moving, I'm on board.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Yeah, you know, she had it coming.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Right right right right Where were you yesterday?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Wow? And its bright light? My eyes didn't terrogate me, which.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Is mean, I know, mean I did it to myself.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Now, I'm like, why can't I see help? Anyway, We're
at the end.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
We're not, We're not. I just want things to say
to you, which you know, well thirty six years has
never happened.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
But I know it's just it's been a you know,
I could go back to bed right now, you could
go back to Oh yeah, absolutely, my husband's currently in
bed right now. See that seems to be who you
tell him?

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
It's like everything right now is exhausting.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Is exhausting, and one of the things dealing with all
of the stuff with my mother and having to be
a characterver to someone who is absolutely just out of
it is so exhausting and so stressful that peopling for
me is extra hard. Now. I'm one of those people

(45:38):
who's always been a people person. Well and then people
ruined it, but agreed. I mean, I have to deal
with people for a living because I'm a hairdresser. Yeah, so,
but I'm dealing with one person at a time, and
so I'm fine. But like I was supposed to go
like a week or so ago, maybe two weeks, I
don't know. Time doesn't mean anything to a friend's mom's

(46:01):
memorial service. And I talked to you that day.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I was like, I'm supposed to go do this thing.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I just don't think that I can, and zero then
don't because self care is one of those things for
me that's kind of new. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I mean, I obviously I know about it whatever, but
it's like.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
I think it's because maybe my generation, my age, which
is why I was very excited. But I feel like
when I'm supposed to do something, if I'm obligated or
I feel obligated anyway that whether I'm up to it
physically or not, you do it right and so and
it was super good friend. Yeah, And I didn't really
know her mom. I had met her mom a couple times,

(46:41):
and she was a lovely lady, but also had dementia.
And her dementia was really exacerbated by the fact that
she lost her hearing and her sight. Because folks with dementia,
if they lose their hearing or their sight, it yes,

(47:03):
and it makes it just kind of develop much more quickly.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Well, she'll has both and so hers just exponentially, Yeah,
you know, changed and then she passed. Yeah, and that's
one of those things. And I, of course wouldn't say
this to my friend, although I'm sure she feels the
same way. It's one of those kind of blessings of
she's no longer in this situation where every single thing

(47:28):
she does has to be done for her, yep, going
to the bathroom, showering, dressing, everything. Yeah, because at that
point you kind of are a baby.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
Well, And I had this conversation with Gavin the other day.
I was like, is it is that life? And is
it fun and is it enjoyable? And like, you know,
and I understand, like we're not just gonna go kill people,
but like I genuinely like, is Grandma having a good time?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I don't think so either, think so at all.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
But I'm going to tell you there's this friend.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Of mine, not a friend, she's evil child you. Oh
my god, I said, if this happens to me, I
need you to just kill me.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Yeah, and did you what did you say? I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
He said, nope.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
I'm gonna dress you up and.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Hair pieces painted with like too much bronzie, lipsick and
too much bronze, and push you around town looking like
a crazy lady.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Yeah. Great, Oh, Grandma, you've got Grandma.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
You won't go dave Grandma.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Yeah, I'm just gonna fucking pin all these different two pays, wigs, ponytails,
all to your yes.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Well, And I told my children this the other day,
I said, you know, because they said the barker.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I said, I don't want to ever live like this. No,
And they said, but your sister has made it very clear.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
If you get to this stage, she's just gonna make
me look as crazy as possible. You become an accessory
to me right and a lot of times dressing up
at all.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
But it was like, what the are going to me too?
Out of it?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Yeah, like, whoa you look?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
So I love your seventeen colors of hair.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
I want you to know that this plan has been
in the works for twenty years.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Oh yeah, I think it started right when I started
having a fit.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Ye oh yeah, you know, because I'm pretty sure this
was like the first ever in the hospital. I was like,
you know, if this man just killed me, kill me
and you're like, nope, no, you don't stick around fun
we end up but you're still alive, and it's like.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Why do I believe that she really would?

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Well, you know, I'll make you TikTok famous.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That I won't be able to enjoy it because I'll
be Google grazy.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Yeah, what's the sticking talk?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
But your frosty lipstick will look so guy with all
your bronze.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
No, I can't want.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Speaking of Tiktoker's a lady that I follow who I
just love.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
And there's this woman who very beautiful black woman who
is in her fifties I think girl, but she her
whole thing, her whole vibe is she's you know, rich
on tee now with no children love and because she's like, yeah,
I made the choice long ago to never have children,
because why then I get to spend my money on

(50:15):
me go shopping. But she gets comments all the time
about well, one day he's sorry you don't have children,
like when you end up in the nursing home. When
she did this whole video of the day about listen,
when I end up in the nursing home, I'm going
to be in the boogiest fucking nursing home where I'm
gonna look like a fucking star. I'm gonna be wearing

(50:38):
all my designer clothes, a burken bag and having my
face painted.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
And she's like, and it is.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Actually, there are statistics that single women in nursing those
kind of facilities, like senior facilities, have the best time
because everybody wants to be around them. She's like, so,
let's see what kind of nursing facility your children put
you in.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Well, And that's the other thing too, is having children,
not having children. If even if you do or don't,
you're probably gonna come into a nursingcity at some point,
and even if you have children, isn't either gonna come see.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
You, no bitch, I can tell you. So. My very
first job was working at a nursing home. At all
folks home as we used to call them, but a
nursing home, and very rarely did people come to visit
their parents and grandparents or whoever was there. Every once
in a while, you see somebody come and visit. I'm like, whoa,

(51:34):
what's what? I started when I was fifteen, right about
turned sixteen. It was an early education I did not
need because all it made me was very sad because
all these people had been there for years and nobody
would come see them, I know, and most of the
people there had like dementia or some other thing, you know,

(51:56):
where they really couldn't live on their own, which I
understand that part, but the never coming to see them
is like, this is your parents, unless your parent was
a monster and they put them away.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Whatever they deserve. At least I've being taken care of,
right right.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
But the fact that you know, mom's in a home
and you never see her, I don't really understand that. Well.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I felt that same way about because my maternal grandmother
and my Grandma Loretta was in a home my entire life.
She had a stroke the air I was born, so
I never knew her, but I would go with my
birth mother to see her, and we were the only people.
I mean, when she lived in when my grandma was
in ben and my grandpa was still alive, he would
go all the time to see her, right because they

(52:39):
were close and they were married. But when she moved
to McMinnville, it was like me and my birth mom
who would go see her, and really nobody else. And
I didn't know her, right, I didn't know her very well.
And like my I'm the youngest on that side of
the family. So my siblings did, and my cousins all
knew her and were close to her, but no one
went to see her, which was really sad to me.
And she could say like yes, no, okay, and oh shit,

(53:00):
which I think is fantastic. But she understood everything, but
it was like very limited language. But then when Grandpa
Jack had his heart attack or whatever, who went to
go see him Grandma, you, me, you know, and occasionally
his other kids, but very rarely.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
So I'm going to tell you that was my first
kind of introduction to dementia other than when I was
a kid who worked in nursing home, but I was
not old enough to really understand what I was dealing with.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
But when my stepfather, who she just mentioned, had.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Had a heart attack, which he already had dementia, but
this kind of pushed it full for its kind of
like what's happened with my mother having this thing? But
he went from being the most horrible human beings that
I'd ever met, honestly to being this like kindly old
man yea and so fun. It was very different. I

(53:53):
mean the first time I was around him at post
you know, heart attack. He came to my house for
Thanksgiving and I was very like cautious, like really, you're
bringing this awful man to my house, and my mother
was all like, he's changed. He's so different, you won't
even know him. Okay, I'm trusting you, but very cautious

(54:15):
because he was always awful, and I mean awful. This
is a man who literally used every single racial all
of them, and hated everyone so whatever to that, but
it was like, Okay, he was kind and was like

(54:36):
playing with the kids that were there and making jokes.
I'm like, who the fuck is this guy I got
to see my whole life, you know, because he was
the only father figure I ever had my life, even
though he was not really that because my mother married
him when I was two and divorced him when I
was a teenager, you know whatever. But around him, it

(54:58):
was like, Okay, this this little eyes now nice and
he's funny and he's got a family. It was kind
of my only real, you know, idea of dimension. It
was like, well, that's not so terrible.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
No, he's great.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I mean, he did always want to know. The heartbreaking
thing to me is he wanted to know when someone
was going to take him home and get him out
of the where. He, by the way, was the hot
catch at the nursing home because he was younger than everything. Yeah,
and he had had a hair.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
All those old ladies were like, yeah, yeah, I want that.
I know that was I mean, had a good time,
like playing cards with him, eating candy, talking whatever. But
as a kid, I remember seeing him a few times,
you know, like my bio father would take me over
there and he would just I remember some distinct things.
He smoked inside and he drank like like jack and

(55:49):
pepsi or something all the time, and then one time
going to like the sawmill where he worked, and watching
him saw something and there were sparks flying, and I
thought it was the craziest shit ever. But like I don't,
I didn't know him. And oh and when he would
come over and take Grandma out on dates, which I
want you to know is one of my favorite things ever.
When I lived with Grandma's a kid, he would come
and take her out for oysters or whatever, take her

(56:12):
out on dates, and buy her jewelry and ship.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, she never she.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Never put out. She went and got that food, she
got that jewelry, and she went home and she said
thank you for the next date. I love that.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I mean because the whole time they were married, I
don't think he ever got her any anything. I was
having grief, honestly. I remember one Christmas he because he
would shop like on Christmas Eve. You know it's the
gas station on the home or whatever, the drug store,
whatever was open because when I was young, you know,

(56:44):
because the earth had just cool.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, Christmas was just found done.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Right, Christmas just started. Saint Nick was a child anyway,
but nothing was open, so it was just a few
little things, like maybe the drug store was open and
maybe you know what, and he would come home with
something he had found there, like one of those potato slicers.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
I got you banana could not be more impersonal.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
I know, you know, ba CLIs not thing yet, that
wasn't until the eighties, my god. But it would always
be some dumb thing that nobody would ask for when
I buy it for yourself, Like I'm doing a lot
of cooking, so I better buy this vegetables. Like you're
not going to ask for it for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
If you're going to ask for something that's in the kitchen,
it's gonna be appliance or.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
But yeah, that was him my childhood. So the fact
that you know, once he and my mother were divorced
and he endorsed in his third wife, I didn't even
know until I was doing ancestry stuff that he had
a wife before my mother. He was married for like
the hot min they were teenagers, okay, so yeah, anyway,

(57:52):
but after he divorced Carol, uh, then he you know,
my mother were going out on dacent. It was like
suddenly he's like buying her things whatever. It's like, what
I know, I know?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
And again I only remember the stories of him being
like an evil drunk when I when he was when
you guys were younger. But then him coming over and
taking her out was so strange to me. Yeah, but
I was like, because I was like, you're divorced, you're
already married, why are you hanging out? Like I was
so confused because I couldn't imagine my biofather my bio
mother hanging out, you.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Know, And so that was really weird.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
But whatever, what do I know. One of the things
I was a child that I thought was funny that
I think most people would look at now. It was
like childhood trauma, which he would get really drunk and
pass out. He would usually like talk in his drunken
pass out state, and it was always ridiculous, like you know,

(58:48):
because when you're sleeping and talking makes it makes sense. Yeah,
but it would be drunk and talking sleep and it
was always fucking And you know, I think that one
of those like coping things that I didn't think that
it was like dramatic or scary or whatever, but you know,
he would just one time he passed out on the

(59:08):
front porch and just lay there in the sun and he,
by the way, is who you got your coloring? Yeah?
Because he was.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
We used to say he was in color about fish spelling.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
It's like he got pretty crispy laying out the sun
that day. Bad.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Oh my god, just one time his body just beat
fucking right.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I know.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Well, well he had it coming, he did.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
But then you know in the end rip he had
you know, his redemption arc.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, he did. What's interesting about that for me? So
you know that my father, who I was never had
a relationship with, died when I was forty, and we
never had the redemption arc. Whereas my stepfather, who I
hated my whole childhood growing up, he you know, he did,
And so I got to not hate him and and

(01:00:00):
turn that around so that like, I actually have some
like kind feelings and I don't have unkind feelings stares
my father. I just did more neutral about that. But
what's funny is so after he passed, and years after,
you know, having his siblings come to me and be like,
we you know, he really regretted not being a father
to you and your siblings and was like, no.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
We didn't had seventeen children.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
He was. His words on his deathbed were blah blah blah,
and my sister Lynda had already told me. He really
virtually had no words on his death because he was
unable to. So if you're gonna tell me some hallmark
in his last words, he was like, I'm so sorry
that I you know what I was like that didn't happen.
So it's like whatever, And I you know, I don't

(01:00:44):
carry any like anger or bitterness about that because it's
like he it took me a long time realized he
just wasn't cut out to be a father. The ability no,
And I don't know what trauma happened in his childhood
made that happen. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
I want you to know I hate growing up and
I hate being smarter because then you have to think, well,
why did that person turn out that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Way to behave just being mad at him?

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I know, I want to be angry and people.
But then you're like, Okay, well everyone went through something
I hate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
It isn't a lifetime I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Know, but now I'm gonna go home and watch this
lifetime Christmas movies. Probably my child freaks out when I'm
all because because now I can just go I'm going
to put on a Christmas movie.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
You're like, I know, it's so funny to me, but
it's almost Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
It's still summer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Grace was doing something the other day that was Christmasy
and I was like, but you yell at Mama every
single time she puts on a Christmas anything. It was
like a puzzle or coloring book or something and it
was Christmas and I said, uhh, burn it, throw it away.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Yep. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Well my man, my man watches Christmas and listens to it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I know that's where I go. Would you yell a
cabin because he watches Christmas stuff and he listens to
Christmas in his car all the time. So you're around, so.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Yell, I haven't see what happens right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Anyway, And that brings us to the end. So yeah,
actually it's not I have to have a phone call
with Medicaid to find out what's next, I know. So
we'll probably talk about that next week. Flogger Okay, Okay,
well that's probably not gonna happen, but we'll find out yellow.

(01:02:32):
So anyway, so thanks for joining us totally for our
random talking about old people and you know, good stuff
and this week.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
And wild animals I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Think just kidding, so you know, we're here, like everyone,
come out our show every Wednesday. It does, and we're
here every week. What you want to be or not,
we still want to be because we were having fun.
I'm having so much fun and our listeners to like, so, yeah,
that's good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
And look we have put all the animals to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
They are fucking boring. Yeah sleep, I know, but you know,
send us a little message you love that you hate us? Yeah, whatever,
we don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I hate you. You're awful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
And it would seem as though at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Yeah, girl, like you're subscribe to all the love that
tell your friends. So your enemies, we don't care. Just
tell someone.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
So tell your pastor tell your priest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
You know what would that being the confession I listened
to these crazy bitches every.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Week forgive me father, five cents, I listened to It
would seem as though regularly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Like what the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Listen?

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Father, these two crazy bitches you talk about not talk
ship all day? Yeah all right, well let's go okay,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Bye. It was muss down, pamp, Compete and comput