It Would Seem As Though We Want Peace On Earth

This week we talk about Christmas songs, mall culture, family and holiday happenings.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
M m h.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It was hi, Hi, Hi, how are you? I'm good?
Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house
several creatures were stirring. Not one of them a mouse.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, several creatures were having a full on panic time.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
As soon as I walked in the door, it was like, uh, sage,
who is one?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Hello? Over one? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Over one? Uh? Practically, you know, worry yourself into a
conniption because she was like so excited to see me,
because she hasn't seen me in a couple of weeks.
And she is like bending herself in half with excitement, you.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Know, creaching and whimpering right because.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
She's just all, oh my god, you're here.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
And life is tough right now for her because you know,
her father's out of town.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Her father left this morning. But my girls don't realize
that papa's actually gone because it's still really he could
be at work, he could be at the gym. He
could be at the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
But no, he's in California.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
He's gonna be gone for forty When does he land soon?
I don't When was this flight?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think his flight is close to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
It leaves it close to ten, and he got there
at four in the morning. He didn't get there four
in the morning. He just got there early because he
again was.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
He thought it was gonna be busy for a man
like that girl. Then he's like, yeah, I'm gonna wait,
I'll get there.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Flights at ten, so I should leave home at what
nine forty five?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Shit? Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I had a friend, just one. I don't have it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Had the one friend who I think, somewhere in their
deluded mind, believed that the plane would wait for them.
I don't know why. Why Yeah, yeah, because they would
get to the airport and be, you know, racing to
the gate, and more than once missed a flight and
they're like, what just because you have a ticket, they're

(02:15):
not holding the plane for you. No.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Also, I don't have to be rushed like that girl.
It ruins my fucking day. Yeah, when you wake up
late and you have to be somewhere, or like, wake
up late and you have to be at work in
fifteen minutes or whatever. I hated that shit. It always
made feel rushed, and being late gives me such increased anxiety.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
It not only makes me feel rushed because of course
you are but it's also it takes me completely out
of my routine. So what did I forget? Did I
forget to brush my teeth? Did I forget to you know,
put on my moisturiede? Did I you know whatever? I
don't know, But all day long, it's that feeling of
like something is not right.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I feel like I can't catch up all day right,
I feel I'm always behind. I'm at work and I
still feel like I'm doing fine, but I feel crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, was like, did I unplug my curlinger? Did I
shut off the stove?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Did I? You know?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I don't, And I probably didn't do any of those
things if I was in that big of a hurry.
But I'm still because I didn't do my routine. I
am I'm not O c D. I don't think, but
you're cautious. I'm cautious. But I also have a routine.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It's like when I get up, everything is kind of
the same until I get upstairs, you know, could but
I do my whole like mourning routine of you know,
I go to the bathroom, I brush my teeth, I
put I do my whole skincare routine. I get dressed,
I put on my shoes, I head upstairs. Well, I've
added one more thing to that because, as you know,

(03:46):
for a while I was doing the weight loss shots
and they were doing me no good. And one of
the things that my doctor I had talked to me
about was the cortisol levels. If your stress is so high,
then weight loss is really hard. And so my stress

(04:08):
levels have gone down because now I'm not twenty four
seven worried about my mother, and so I thought, you
know what, I'm gonna try again, because I had like
a month's worth left and I was like, I'm gonna try.
And so I a little more than a week ago
started doing the It's victo'sa where you injected every single day,

(04:32):
which is paying the look. It's not painful, it's just annoying.
It's another thing, you know, added to my morning. But
in that week I've lost ten pounds. Whoa, yeah, So
I think my body was just like okay. But part
of that also was clearly I was rotaining a lot

(04:53):
of water because for the first day I could barely
leave the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
As being sold there water was extra small, right, it.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Was like, nope, we're not holding anything today. I know
and know you need to flesh out your system because
you're puffed up like the staypuff marshmallow man. Oh my god,
let's deal with that. So we'll see what happens from
here on. And I'm not even up to a full
dose yet because it's like the first week you do
this like baby dose, and then the second week you
double that, and then the third week it's three times

(05:24):
what your original dose is. So it's like zero point
six and then one point two and then one point eight, okay,
which means nothing to me really other than the numbers
on me a little injectable and I don't have to
fill a syringe or anything else. It's all in the pen,
you know. All I have to is put on a
needle shoot myself. But they're teeny little fine like hair

(05:44):
like needles, so they don't hurt.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Is it in like a like a stab yourself like.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Kind of okay? But you just like you twist the
end of it until it's at the right dose, and
then you put it in, push down the little plunger
and you're done.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I'm okay, more okay with shots when it's just like
put it to your skin and push a button right.
I way prefer a that then stick it in, push
a plunger, hate it. I don't know why, well, I
do know. I there's several reasons. But I'm how are
you feeling?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Though?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It is my question.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm feeling better, you know, as we've talked about in here.
You know, it's like moving mom to the memory care
facility was super stressful, and you and I both really
struggled with that for the first few weeks. And that

(06:42):
has gotten better. And it's also finally kind of caught
up with me that life is different, you know, and
I don't have to be worried, you know, is she
gonna wander away?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yea? Is she?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You know, whatever it is, whatever the thing was, and
I'm not having to deal with the the kind of
the attitude of okay, I'm just gonna I'm gonna back
up just a tiny bit. It was really hard for
me to not say things cannot correct, to not be

(07:22):
like that's not what's you know, And so when she
would say things that were like out of just out
of the blue somewhere, that's like, that's fucking crazy. It
was hard for me to just let it go. I
had to learn to let it go. But it was
also stressful because she would say shit, I'm like she actually,
at least that this moment, believes that to be true,

(07:43):
and that's, you know, fucked up. The only time I
would correct her is when she would say, well, I
haven't seen my son in years, and it's like, well,
you saw him yesterday, And I would do that gently,
be like, well, no, you saw him yesterday and he's
he comes every money blah blah blah. Yeah, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
And so.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now with her being there, I go see her regularly,
but she doesn't remember ten minutes later, you know, because
like when I asked her, hey, how is your visit
yesterday with you know, my other brother, But I didn't
see him, know he was here all day, so whatever.

(08:24):
But you know, so I have to think to myself, yes,
it's important that I visited her. Yes, it's you know,
part of you know, being a good a good daughter, right,
But in the end, it's like, she's not going to
remember I was there, you know, And eventually she's not
gonna remember who I am. Because the last time we

(08:46):
were there, we went there for dinner and she came
in because they bring her over to the dining room
where we are because we find it's less stressful for
her and for us because then she doesn't get all
riled up and whatever. But she walks into the room
and she goes, well, I recognize some of you, and
it's like, oh, well, only one of them. Only one

(09:08):
of us has not been in her life forever, which
is you know, Gavin. And he's been in her life
for three years, living, you know, in the backyard, seeing
her regularly. He hasn't technically lived in the yard. He
lives in the house. He's you know, he's.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Been chained up in the yard for three years.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Every once in a while we let him out. Now
he's let him fly to La to see his family.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
So, but my stress level has gone down. And part
of that really is just is just in the morning
when I'm like, okay, I got to get up, I
gotta get her pills. Oh no, I don't. I got
to make her know, I gotta do her no, you know.
And it's like in the first two weeks I had
a lot of that. It's like I need to, you know,

(09:53):
go clean her room. No, And that getting.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Past that was huge.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, And so my stress level has gone down exponentially.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I mean saying yeah. Yeah. I the other day when
the kids had a sleepover, we always order food, and
we ordered food for you and your husband because she'll
be home and he, you know, look around dinner time whatever.
But as I was ordering it, I was like, for
a minute, it was like, oh, I need to get
something for Grandma. And I was like, oh, wait, Like no,
I doub't. You know she's not hanging out over there anymore. Yeah,

(10:30):
it is good to see her. It's different because it
does feel like she thinks we haven't been there, like
we haven't seen her wit been here. It's like, oh,
I mean, you know, I feel like sometimes she speaks
like we are an acquaintance that she hasn't seen a
long time, you know, And I think, and I mean
I get it. It's her brain. Yeah, I yeah, I

(10:52):
don't feel stressed anymore. It's telling Gavin. The other day,
I was like, other than like Baseline, the world is
ending stress right all the fun time. But I don't
know what no stress feels like. But the whole Becky situation,
my biological mother, you know that she is all this

(11:13):
is what I know is that she is out of
the hospital and at home. Okay, that is what I know,
but there's been no I've had no updates, no nothing,
which is fine.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, I do think.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's crazy that I was the first person contacted. And
I mean, and I don't believe Becky knows. I think
that her friend who messaged me did it like behind
her back, essentially. But it does feel weird that I
was under this microscope of stress, right, it was just
like holy fucking shit, and now like nothing and not

(11:51):
even that, but like Becky hasn't said anything to me,
which is I didn't expect it. It just is kind
of strange, you know what I mean, Like it was
so much at once too then nothing. How about we
let's just keep it at nothing, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Right, Well, when it's been nothing for so long, you know,
it's interesting to me. I've been watching all these videos
on YouTube and it's like storytelling videos, and in the
background there's just like random things happening, sure, like cooking, right,

(12:27):
or it could just be like somebody building, you know,
in Minecraft or whatever. But it has nothing to do
with the storytelling, right, It's just something to look at
while it's happening. Yeah, and I don't know that any
of the stories are true. Because it seems like all
of the stories, you know, there's some family drama, there's
always one kid who was the favorite and one kid
who was like, oh, we have two kids, you know

(12:49):
that kind of thing, and the family treats one kid
like garbage, and the that kid finally gets their you know, revenge,
or the family gets their come ups or whatever, and
often excuse me, my.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
God, good lord, cheve live on television.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I did live from New York anyway, But often it's like,
you know, they treated me like garbage for twenty eight years,
but now they're coming around and we're going to rebuild
a relationship. Why. And to me, I'm sure that that's
one of those things that people think, oh, you know,
that's great because then they can be a family again.

(13:27):
It's like, well they never were. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I also find it very dependent on It's all very
situational to me, right, I don't think. I don't like
people believing anything is homogeneous, right, Like, oh, well, all
family dynamics are going to be the same. So let's
say there is a relationship of family wherever they don't
talk for twenty eight years and then oh my god,

(13:49):
I'm sorry, we just had the kool aid Man bust
through the fucking wall.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
But I.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
So they didn't talk for twenty years and they reconnect.
Somebody came around, somebody remind somebody something happened. I think
that is fine. I don't think that's unnecessary. I don't
think that we should shun it or think like, oh,
you're not a family. We've never been a family. But
I don't think that it should. It's not like the pattern,
you know what I mean. It is the exception to

(14:20):
this rule. Essentially. That's how I feel about it. Yeah,
you know, I mean because I obviously there have been
situations where people didn't talk for decades and they were family,
and then they did talk again because something changed, like right.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
But you and I both know, because we've heard it
a thousand times. Well, that's your family, and you have
to love them and you have to forgive them, and
you have to and as we've talked about on here
a million times, it's not true.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
The difference is our family. None of them have done
anything to change anything about who they were. They've done
no evolving, they've done no developing, they've done no learning
about themselves, no introspection, no so you know, learning about empathy,
like they've done nothing to better themselves. I know, it's

(15:07):
an unfair assessment about a whole group of people after
I just said I don't like homogeny, but I mean,
I've witnessed a lot of it. You know. Yeah, maybe
there's a couple in our entire family, but the majority
of them have stayed the same habitually. They have created patterns,
they've created rituals in their life which they abide to,

(15:29):
and it has just stagnated them. You know, they all,
most of them behave not far off of what they
did when they were teenagers.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Right right, Well, and uh, the biggest problem I find
is that there's like literally no growth. There's literally like
you you know, because we've talked many times about people
giving older people a pass for like behaving badly where
racism is concerned or things like that. It's like they

(15:58):
shouldn't get a pass because they've been around and seeing
all the you know, things happening, all the change in
the world, they lived through it. They should be better
about it.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You learned nothing, So what it proves to me is
that you can be You showed evidence, showed reason, showed proof,
and learned nothing. That makes you ignorant. That makes you
dumb bitch.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you look at what's going on around you and
it's problematic and you see no problem with that, you
are intellectually wrong, you know what I mean? Like, you
have no growth, and as an adult, if you haven't
really changed your viewpoints from what you knew as a child,

(16:47):
you were again stunted as a human being. Yeah, you
can't experience the true beauty of the world, and I
guess the true pain of it too. But if you
stay in such shallow waters, you know what I mean?
I do?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean? It makes me think of the show The
Good Place, and one of the characters was pretending to
be a monk who took a vow of silence yep,
And at one point they talk about that there was,
you know, an actual monk with this name who took
a vow of silence at the age of eight, and

(17:23):
they were like, well, he must have been very enlightened,
and every's like, no, he stopped growing and stopped learning
at eight, you know. It's like because he stopped interacting,
you know whatever. And it's like, I feel like so
many people, specifically in our family, don't care about what's
going on in the world. Don't aren't interested in like

(17:45):
what's beyond their house or beyond their you know, their
family or whatever. And then that's that makes you a
not very interesting persons and it makes you not a
good person because you're not learning or changing or trying
to make even your d a better place.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, you're not learning from your own mistakes. You keep
doing the same dumb shit over and over and over.
And that's a dangerous person to be in a multicultural
world where everybody is supposed to be different. If you
think so strident and so severe about your rules and
your ideals and your beliefs that they need to be
this certain way, then any sort of differentiation is going

(18:22):
to be a threat to that, you know, any sort
of divergence from that, like a different religion, a different
skin color, different belief system of different whatever is going
it's that whole like I hate it because I fear it,
you know, which is it's bananas that we were fed
this fucking line that like America is a melting pot

(18:42):
and now look where we live in Gestapo right like sidebar,
but not really did you see that? There was a
sixty minute segment about seact CECOT. It's that prison in
El Salvador.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Oh I did not know so.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Not PBS, sorry, whoever has it, CBS whatever. We're like, no,
we're moving, you have to take it off the area.
We can't air this because it's true, right, and it's
about us torturing and dehumanizing people that we deemed to
be criminals and sent them to a foreign country to
torture them. Right. Well, Canada aired aired it and there's

(19:25):
like a lawsuit now, but like you can still see
it and lots of clips from it, and it feels
bananas that the American government, who this is their prison
essentially their fucking torture prison concentration camp that they have
this in sixty minutes is an American organization, right, and

(19:45):
they did this back checked it because it's sixty minutes, right,
and America's trying to censor it.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Well, yeah, because it makes look terrible.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, as if we didn't know you know what I mean,
as if, but it gives them much more intimate view
and it's horrific as you can imagine.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, but it's like it's one more thing that has
come out to make the the folks in charge look horrendous,
or just show their true colors, which is horrendous. Those
are your true colors. But it's like, but still his
base is, you know, knowing the same line of well,

(20:26):
while he's you know, it's all Joe Biden's fault.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I know, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
So Joe Biden didn't send people to a torture camp,
but this is somehow his fault. He was you know,
so far not in the Epstein files, but that's also
his fault. It's like every time you ask any of
those people anything, it's like, why is the economies of well,
Joe Biden, have you met Joe Biden? Caroline Levitt? Caroline Levitt?

(20:54):
And who's the other one, Ice Barbie? What's her name?
Christ Christy Nome, which is appropriate because she is a
little gnome Anyway, when asked a question of like why
is this thing happening, well, Joe Biden what Joe Biden's
not in office and according to y'all he was never
even president.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I know, how is that for a fake president?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
I know? In fact, I was watching a congressional hearing
where they were talking to Christie Now about this veteran
who American veteran who was sent to who was deported
and whatever, and she is and like, how is this
possible when you're like, you say, you don't do this
and she's like, well Joe Biden and he's like no, no, no,

(21:38):
did you do this? Yes? Or no, well Joe Biden,
no did you? And he she wouldn't answer the question
of right, because then of course she might have to
take some responsibility for the ship she's pulled.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
And it's like, and you don't get gender from me
in care like face plumper in prison. I love oh
the close ups and just the ridiculousness that Vanity Fair
put out.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Vanity Fair did an absolute hit piece on the folks
in the Republican government, you know whatever. And my favorite
one is the one of Caroline Lovett because it couldn't
be any closer because and you couldn't see her. If
they were at closer, you wouldn't able to se her
whole face. But you can see every fine line and
wrinkle and every needle mark in her lips where she's

(22:29):
had them plumped. And if that's a plump lip, you
are a sad, sorry little white girl for those little things.
I'm sorry, but that's the plumped version also she's twenty eight. Yeah,
she looks forty five girl with no help, I mean
forty five without any fillers, plumpers, anything else. Because yeah,

(22:49):
I think it's all that lying. I think it's aged
her unlying makes you ugly, thank you. Yeah, I think
it's the heat from your pants.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Be on fire, girl, she melted, she's melting. Well. I
love it because they took the close up pictures and like,
like a portrait, not a portrait was, yeah, a portrait
of them, like but their whole body m hm. All
the pictures were kind of staged in a way where
they look dumb. The one of Marco Rubio, he looks

(23:18):
so tiny compared to like all the furniture in the room,
and he's like kind of leaned forward. He looks slubbish.
And they all look like that. All of them look wrong, right,
and you know they obviously they don't love that. No,
that's a real problem for them. But yeah, the life.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh, I don't remember what magazine it was that several
years ago did on the I think it was on
the cover of their magazine. Was a bunch of drag
queens from uh drag Con And I wanted to say
it was like a hundred drag queens, and it was
the worst fucking pictures because they were taken in like, uh,

(23:59):
that lighting that is so awful, because and all of
them who work there or go there and have boots
and whatever, all have a setup where they can take
good photographs just have you know, the scenery and the
lighting and everything is perfect so you can get a
good photograph of them. Fluorescent lighting not your friend. But
it was also super close up and terrible lighting, and

(24:20):
it made most of them look terrible. Now, if you're
somebody who's just naturally beautiful and you know, like Courtney act,
don't think could take a bad picture. Maybe you know.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
She was like, I guess if you're into like that
Hitler youth looking thing, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Just wow wow. But most of them were just terrible.
And all these queens were like, yeah, we've been duped here, bamboozled,
We've been bamboosed.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Honestly, why can't I agree to it?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Well I don't. They were not told that that's what
it was for. Oh shady, yeah it shady, shady boots,
shady boots, the house down. Don't want to complete different topic.
So as we're recording this. It is Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
It is Christmas Eve.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, Santa Clauses come into town just a few hours.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
But I got a really great gift.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I know you did, I know you did. So yeah,
nothing else will compare well.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I love. Yeah. My sweet husband got me this framed
Oh my god, sorry, a big evil bitch jump one. Sorry,
got me a framed picture from the Adam family, Evangelica
Houston and Christina Riachi together and it's signed and vertified.

(25:39):
It's vertified, certified, verified, so it put those together. It's vertified. Yeah,
what is it called authentic?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Authenticated?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yes, but it's beautiful and it's.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I've watched enough of the Antiques road Show to know
about authentication, provenance and all those things proving the history
of something right, Because if you said I've had this
whatever antique for one hundred years, it's like okay. But
if you have like pictures of your grandmother standing next

(26:13):
to it and the photo is dated, they're like, oh
you really did have this, right, you know?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's yeah okay.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
But anyway, so it's Christmas Eve. Yesterday I went so, wait,
there's a mall here called Lloyd Center, which used to
be yesterday we tried to go to Costco. We'll go
back to that nightmare, okay. But Lloyd Center used to
be a hop and mall. Now, when I first moved

(26:41):
to Portland four hundred years ago, when they didn't even
have roads, it was an open air mall.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
It was a pilgrimage to Mecca.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Right, So there was like three outposts and camels, right. No,
but it was a mall that was all the stores
were like you could walk around like a normal mall,
but there was no roof on the middle of it,
so it was all open air. It was two stores

(27:10):
and whatever. When I worked there at a hair salon there.
It was by then it was all normal mall closed
in whatever and it was three floors and the third
floor with almost all like medical offices. But that's also
where the food court and the theaters, I think. But
it was hoppin'. It was always hopping. Well, it has

(27:32):
mostly died and we went through yesterday to scope it
out because we were talking about taking lunch there and
going sitting in the food court and eating our lunch
so that we'd have someplace other than a restaurant, you know,
to go sit down and have food with my husband
because on one day a week he has this very
big gap in his schedule. So we go pick him

(27:53):
up and we go eat. Anyway, it was shocking to
me how empty the mall was. And it was like
the day before Christmas Eve and the mall is almost empty. Well,
but there's there's all these weird stores that I've never
heard of. Well, the only places there I've heard of

(28:14):
is Gifts from Afar, which I've always called Gifts from Jaffar,
Gifts from Jafar. And then there's a couple like Joe
Brown's Caramel Corn, which's been there forever as long as
I can remember, and oh my god, just walking past it,
you're just like salivating. I'll have some caramel corn. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Full of caramel corn was lay in it and Judge
Joe Brown.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Judge Joe Brown. He retired to right caramel Corn. But
it was weird because I'm looking at there's like this
place where you go and just play. It's like a
play place for kids, but obviously you pay to get
in because how else would they make money. Interesting, there's

(28:58):
one store that's nothing but calm oh fun. There's one
place that's pinballs, but there's like a couple of hair
salons and a tattoo establishment, and all these different.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Places like a card store, like a comic card.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
There's a comic store, but it's just like but I
kind of love that I know well. And there's like
a bridge club and which I find all interesting. But
there were so many empty spaces, and but here was
my favorite thing. I'm so, I'm on the third floor,
which is where there's no stores. It's like, you know,

(29:33):
offices and stuff. But I'm looking down and I see
a little blast from the past that I was like,
what on earth a store that hasn't existed in a
long time anywhere I'm going to get there, But it
has all of the original like lighting and signage and
stuff on the outside, so it looks like they just

(29:54):
shuttered the gate pay Less shoe source. Yes, it's still
all the origin little signage and stuff. And I was like,
that hasn't been there for years. They just never did.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Anything with it.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
So I was like, Oh, I just traveled back in time.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, look at me. That's crazy. Malls are and again,
empty malls weird, weird as fuck. Theah Lloyd Center was
like my favorite mall, my very first mall that I loved,
and that's where I got my first job. I worked
at Old Navy there, worked at K Jewelers there, I
covered hips, at H and M and at Macy's. I
worked at a lot of places in the mall and

(30:30):
a lot of people. You know.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I worked in, as I said, the hair salon that
was in Myron Frank which then became Macy's and now
is gone. So that Macy's location is just gone, and
it's three floors of gigantic retail space sitting there boarded up,
which that was one of the one of the anchor

(30:52):
stores of the entire mall. That and Nordstrom which is
also gone, and Sears which is also gone. So it's crazy.
And then there was like Marshals and a couple other
pe and Marshalls doesn't isn't open anymore? Are they? Did
they exist anymore? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I know Mervin's doesn't.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Mervyn's been gone for a long time, which got me
thinking about all the stores that used to exist that
are long gone.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, So that was weird being in there right before
Christmas and one being weird but also being almost empty.
But what wasn't empty? Oh my god, So Anaka and
I had a big case of the stupids. And I'm
gonna say it was mostly my fault because I'm the
one who said, hey, we should go to Costco.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Oh my god, well and I needed to yeah, so
I was like, oh, good, praise praise, Yeah, yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
And so yesterday, the day before Christmas Eve, we're like,
we're gonna go there. We're gonna be there when it opens. Well,
and here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
They open an hour early if you're an executive member,
which we are, So we get there an hour like,
oh my god, my cat is literally and crack okay.
So we get there, you know, before the general public
can get there, and.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
There are people lining up, and now Anak and I
every time we go, we always laugh at the idiots
who line up in the door. It's not Disneyland. Why
are you lining Why are you getting in a queue?
Because they're gonna open the door. Everybody's gonna go in
and there's gonna be one hundred in a warehouse. Yeah
you know what I mean. Oh my god. So we're
sitting in the car and watching the line get longer

(32:28):
and longer and longer, and then they open the doors
and the line is not getting shorter. The line is
still getting and it's literally to the end of the
building on both sides of the building, because the.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Entrance is on the corner if you can see to
the end of both sides. So yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
And we just said there looking at it, and Ana
was like, do we need to do this? And I
was like no, no, and we turned around, got back
in our car and drove away and came home and
ordered all the things we needed online and had it
delivered a couple hours later and didn't have to go
in that stupid store. No, didn't have to fight the crowds,
didn't have stand in line, and a very nice young

(33:07):
man brought it all to the front door, wonderful carried
it all. All I had to do was bring it
in the house and put it away, you know. And
I made kiends do most of that. So I know
what was funny though, is he delivered all the stuff.
It was very lovely gentleman who was very friendly and whatever.
And so after he drove away, we're putting all and

(33:27):
it was like he came back and I was like,
that all looks like the same car that was just here.
But I mean, it was a kind of nondescript white sedan. Yeah,
could be anybody, right totally, but no, it was him
because he had left two things in his car, which
was a rotisserie chicken which was hot, and some frozen pizza.

(33:48):
But it was like, I'm so glad you came back
because I probably wouldn't have noticed totally until I was
going through my list of order things, going hey, I
didn't I didn't get a pizza or I didn't get
my chicken.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Totally, and like it was. I enjoy going to Costco
normally because I like to see all the things, and genuinely,
I've always been a shopper. I enjoy shopping, so's I
don't like people and I don't like to be places
or do things, so I don't like nouns. But other
than that, shopping. But it was just a little more
specia and we tipped him.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It was there a delivery fee, yes, okay, so there's
a delivery fee of fifteen dollars, and then we tipped him,
and then we tipped him a lot because it was
fucking Christmas. Yeah, and he brought us six hundred dollars
with a stuff and it was wonderful. But I mean, so,
that's so, that's the tea.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Bitch. We paid a little more, but it was so convenient.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
And I'm so I would happily pay more to not
have a deal with that shit.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Because it was a nightmare. It was a lit nightmare.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Ye. Yeah, ordinarily we just go and we you know whatever.
But no, no, I don't even know what I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well, we were going to wait in that line. Well,
we're going to stand outside for an hour before we
even got fucking inside. I'm sorry. Here's the thing. We
created one of our one of our taglines a long
time ago, and it's lines are for losers. There are
very few fight lines I would ever wait on.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, no, and line to get in the store.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
No, no, bitch, there is nothing I want that badly.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Oh my god. A couple of years ago when I
was at Disneyland. We were there for like around my birthday,
which is in May, and we're walking around the land
which is the Star Wars which I never can around
like luge Galaxy's Edge, and it's very cool and it
looks like you're in another planet. I love it.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
It's awesome totally.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
But we're walking around and I see this line going
out of this building and down the side and down
the wall. I was like, what the fuck? And it's
hundreds of people waiting in line, and I thought, is
there something? Is there? I thought maybe there's somebody like
in there signing something or a special event or because
it wasn't a ride, yeah, it was a store. And

(35:55):
as we're walking by, one of the cast members was
standing there and I said, what is this about? Why
is there you know? And she said, well, because it's
May fourth, May go? And oh right, May the fourth
be with you. It's so cute. It's cute, but it's

(36:17):
like not worth I'm not standing in a line of
hundreds of people to go by. May the fourth merche.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
No. Here's why. I will say. So you grew up,
hypothetical you And.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I was like, wait what I did grow up? And
now I'm old.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You were alive when you were a kid, when the
Star Wars movies came out. You love them. They were
the greatest thing you ever saw. You were all space travel,
what aliens, what cool magic whatever? You love them so
much you watch them, it becomes like a fucking fanatical.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Glad you're saying, you general because I was like, yeah,
they're okay.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, no, not you, but you know what I mean,
nerds and they're like, oh my god, nerd. And it
grows and grows and gets bigger and bigger, and they
create more and it just this universe gets expanded. You
end end up having children and you're like, hey, Sonny,
hey daughter, Hey them be come on, let me show
you my favorite thing, Star Wars. So since they were born,

(37:15):
they've been indoctrinated to in the world of Star Wars,
right right, So then they get a good to Disneyland
and it happens to be May the fourth. May the
Fourth be with you. Obviously we all know what's from
the Star Wars. That's gonna be like an experience, you know,
that's gonna be like a wife altering experience for them,

(37:37):
just to be there in a Star Wars place on
May the fourth, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Well. And the thing was that there was merch There
was specifically yeah May the Fourth t shirts and stuff,
but that was only available that day. Like imagine if
it was like divine or I don't know, something we
cared about, you know what I mean, you mean, we
can about so imagine we love a short list so

(38:03):
much and instead of Disneyland, it was just like cartoon
World and none of it was Disney. But then they're like,
we're gonna create this specific spot to be only Disneyland.
We would be hot and bothered, you know what I mean? Yeah,
well probably that is true, So I mean I get it.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I also don't give a fuck about Star Wars. I've
seen almost all the movies gabnire on that track, but
I don't really care. It's not super's exciting I have.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I saw the first three that came out, which is
episodes four, five, and six, which is a little confusing. Yeah,
and then I saw episodes one, two, and three and
didn't care anything about them. And then I've seen like
bits here and there, but not enough to go, oh,
well that's so and so. And that's although the other
day my child tried to test me on my Star

(38:50):
Wars knowledge and he's like, who's Anakin Skywalker? And I
was like, are you kidding me? It's Luke Skywalker's dad,
who then went on to become Darth Vader. Spoiler, Sorry, I.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Know you didn't know.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
So the movie's been out for fifty ish years, so
you know, blah blah. If you didn't know that, then
you suck as a human. But or you live in
a cave, you're not sure. But if you live in
a cave and you're listening to us, you have an
amazing Wi Fi in your cave.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
That's also Darth Vader means dark father, right.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I learned that from Pit's Perfect Oh, when one of
the characters is like, I don't like watching movies because
the ending is always so predictable, and the other character says, oh,
so you knew that Darth Vader was Luke's father, and
she's like, Vader literally means father. Oh well, I didn't

(39:51):
know that, so now we know. Now we know. But yeah,
I just think, and you know, I know we jumped
way off of where we were. But that's the whole
idea of waiting in a line for it better be
like the most amazing thing.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I mean, yeah, totally. And I've waited in my fair
share of lines for things. I've been to minute showings
of dumb things like the new Star Trek movie that
came out in two thousand and eight or whatever. I
saw it in San Francisco on opening night. I'm talking
about it on here because I I hate all made
all the Trekies hate me because it was like, where's

(40:30):
c three po, Where's Princess Leia? And they were like
a tug and I said, oh, yeah, whatever, you're such
a bitch.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Well it was that's one of my favorite things about you,
that you're a bitch. That you went in there acting
all ignorant and whatever on purpose.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, while I was with my nerd friends and they
knew I was gonna do it, so it's really their fault.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I'm sorry. Who's this Kirk guy, Kirk Cobain, Kirk Kobang,
he's in Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I didn't know. I thought he just sang A mosquito
A mosquito a Nirvana banana. I don't know. That song's stupid.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, I'm sorry. But for those people who are like,
smells like Teen Spirits one of the greatest rock songs
of all time, it's idiotic, please go read the lyrics
and then come back to me, because I'm sorry. A
mosquito a libido, No, it's dumb.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I might and now that we have lyrics so easily accessible,
because I know lots of people are like, well, I
never knew what the lyrics were.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Look them up now you can look it up, girl.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
So I'm gonna ask you though, since I brought that up,
greatest rock song of all time?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
No, I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I can, okay for me personally, I mean because for
my daughter's whole life, since she could talk, I swear
to God, she's always like, well, what's your favorite?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
You know?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
And she as you know, you know, it's like, what's
your favorite movie, what's your favorite song, Who's your favorite art?
Blah blah blah. And most of the time, I'm like,
I can't pick a favorite. There's too many people that
I love. But greatest rock song of all time in
my opinion, which is the only opinion right now that
matters to me, because whatever is Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen. Now,

(42:20):
other songs that I would put in the obvious, you know,
top ten lists would be things like Stairway to Heaven. Well,
that's the only one that really pops into my mind.
I mean, there's lots of very No, there's no other songs.
That's the only two songs that ever I listened to
as a child.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I Here's why I think it's hard, because, uh, we
now live in a time of such diversity that when
you say rock rock now means something different.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
To oh, absolutely absolutely, because there's so many categories, right,
So we can talk about rock as an Elvis, we
can talk about rock as in Aerosmith, as in Nirvana,
as in you know, meat Loaf, as in death metal, right,
Like they're all kind of because like I think of
music as like, you know, there's rock, there's pop, there's

(43:14):
you know, these big general ideas, and then under that
there's like indie rock, soft rock, hard rock.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You know what I mean exactly, So all of those things,
heavy metal, death metal, like all of those things are
all rock, you know, punk rock, but they're so different.
So like, if we're gonna be like the most classic,
who is the most influential classic rock artist? And classic
is like the time of Elvis, right, like compared to

(43:44):
Queen is very different. So it's really hard for me.
If we have to narrow it down, I could probably
do better. Like I can tell you my favorite Christmas songs,
I can tell you I don't know. I can tell
you one of my favor rock artists literally ever is
meat Loaf and okay anything any most songs from Bad

(44:07):
out of Hell too is it's like the dark side
of my childhood.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
So when I was a teenager, his first big hit album,
Bad out of Hell, was huge, and I love almost
every song on it. And then Bad out of Hell
to Back Into Hell came out when you were a child, right,
and yeah, it's also fantastic. But here's the important piece.

(44:33):
One of the important pieces of that is the producer
of that was Jim Steinman. Okay, so he did the arrangements,
he wrote a lot of the songs and whatever. His
music has such a definite sound that when you hear
a song, well, when I hear a song, that's Jim Steinman,
I go, oh, that's obviously Jim Steinman. So like meat

(44:53):
Loaf all coming back to Me now by Celine Dion,
Total Eclips of the Heart, you know. So it's all
these big, big, big orchestration songs. People and that time
were like, well, this song is so overproduced and over blown.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
It was their magic gives me all these songs you
just named Tingles, Yeah, Charles.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But speaking of songs, since it's Christmas Eve, we're gonna
talk about Christmas songs for a second. Okay. So I
was listening to this thing the other day, which was
the worst Christmas songs of all time? Okay, now I
disagreed with part of it. Okay, but I'm going to
read to you what it says here for this worst
Christmas Songs of all time? Well, actually, what would you

(45:36):
guess to be a couple of the worst Christmas songs
of all time?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I want a Hippopotamus for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, that's on the list.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
All I want for Christmas is you is.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
No. Everybody loves that song.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
It is a great song. It's just so overplayed that
people wanna them. Okay, worst, worst, worse Grandma got ran
over by reindeer. Yeah, okay, I don't know what else. Okay,
So I'm going to start at the bottom. The Chipmunk
song fucking hate it literally makes it so.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
When I was in beauty school, which was the year
you were born, did the woman who ran our school,
who I adored, Yeah, had gone out and gotten the
CD of the Chipmunks Christmas and played it in the
beauty school while we were on the floor, you know,

(46:29):
doing hair and stuff, and said, hey, everybody, you know
you want bring in some Christmas c ds. So I
bring in Patti Labelle's and the Juds Christmas and all,
you know, all these other great Christmas albums, Barbara streisand
and the Commodores and the Whispers and whoever whatever. She
plays half of one of the CDs that I brought

(46:50):
in and she was all, no, it didn't feel Christmas,
you know, and puts on the goddamn Chipmunks and we
had to listen to it every day. No, And I
was like, I want to drop out of school and
I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Blow it up, bitch. I'm gonna get my gun from
the gun store.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
So hate it. I hate the shipmunk. Christmas are now.
I one hundred percent disagree with this song, which is
do they know It's Christmas? By band Aid?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I think maybe people think it's cheesy.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah yeah, but for it's time, and it was USA
for Africa where they're not USA. Excuse me, band Aid
was British, but it was to raise money for starving
kids in Africa. Yeah, because that was when it was
all in the news all the time that people in
Ethiopia there was droughts and whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
So well, also, I love it. I love because you know,
one of my favorite things in the entire universe is
a crossover girl in books and movies and television, but
also having a song like that where everyone from you know,
different job dan Ackroyd was fucking in it, you know
what I mean, like all these different musical artists and
shipping it and they sang one song again again.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Can that cat is being in pain in the ass today?
So we have been, you know, recording over at my house,
but the children are there today, so we.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Were like, there're the worst.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, I love that because it's like boy George and
George Michael and all these folks who you know, huge Bono.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Wasn't there like a rise up to cancer one without
long and it was like all women.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh I don't know, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so grandma
got run over by reindeer. What you already said? Santa Baby,
specifically the Madonna version.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
The Madonna version of Santa Baby makes me want to
scratch my eyes out, my ears out everything. I can't
stand it. I want to I shut the radio off
when it comes on. Don't because it's awful. Santa Baby
earthikit classic, so perfect and wonderful. It's a great song.
The Madonna version sounds like she's trying to be Betty
boop singing Santa Babe.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Oh okay, I see it and it's like.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Santa Baby awful. It's awful. It's awful, Dominic the donkey,
Who's he? I Monty? It features annoying brain sounds and repetition.
I have heard it a couple of times, but I
wouldn't think of it enough to put it on a list. Sure,
I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. I kind of do,

(49:11):
which I think is adorable. I do do, And I
kind of want a hippopotamus for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Who does?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
But I want to pigmy hippopotamus. I just want a hippopotamus,
you know whatever. Yeah, I also disagree with number two,
which is a Wonderful Christmas Time by Paul McCartney. Oh yeah,
it's a great, simply wonderful.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
If I hear it too many times in one holiday season, yeah,
I'm not simply having a wonderful Christmas time.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
But number one, well, I know that at least you
and I will one hundred percent agree.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
It's the worst Christmas Christmas shoes.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Then Christmas shoes?

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yes? Can I buy these shoes? From my mind? Up?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
So here's what I think. I think that some Queen
was like, you know that little that little can't go
meet Jesus and ugly shoes, so we got to get
her some cute shoes. Wait, let's write a song about it.
Oh my god, it's a hit song. Let's write a
movie about it, a lifetime movie, a lifetime movie starting
Rob Lowe and it's the song makes me want a puke.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, because it's Oh, this little boy wants to buy
these shoes made doesn't enough money, but he wants to
buy the shoes for his mom because she's about to
die and meet Jesus and she needs to look good
as if Jesus is gonna give a fuck about her shoes.
Jesus didn't wear shoes, or if he did, they were
like gladiator sandals, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
So when she comes in, Manola Blaonnis like, sorry, you
couldn't feed your family, but you bought shoes.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
She comes in stomping in her red bottoms, and Jesus
is feeding the poor girl.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
So we could sell those shoes and feed a whole crew.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah. Bit, she's gonna push you back down.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
So here is the reasoning of why these songs are bad. Okay, Uh.
The first reason is repetition, got it. Songs like and
I'm sorry this is one of your girls have favorites,
but says songs like Carol of the Bells and the
Chipmunk song gets stuck in your head in an unpleasant way.
I completely disagree about Carol of the Bells because I

(51:16):
think it's a beautifl We talked about yesterday's overly Sacramento
sacrament a little over saccharin sentimental. The Christmas Shoes is
an example of music designed for tears that some find manipulative,
some find manipulative. Awful song little Boy whose mother's dying

(51:37):
and he's standing and has a nickel to buy her
some shoes, and the guy behind her in lines like
I'll pay the other seven hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
The only store in town is like adult drinkabon and
he's like.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Help, I mean, come on it. It's stupid novelty overload.
Songs about hippos or donkeys can be fun once but
become tiresome quickly over exposure. And that's what you were
saying about, Mariah. I love that song too, and dated lyrics.

(52:11):
Some songs like baby It's called Outside like cringe. Now
you know, here's my thing about baby. It's called outside.
I know for a while everybody was like that song
is like, you know, blah blah blah, it's you know,
it's excuse me, problematic, problematic because he is trying to
coerce this woman. If you really listen to the song,

(52:35):
she doesn't want to go either. To be proper, she's like, well,
I really should go home. She doesn't really want to,
but she's like, everyone's going to be thinking some kind
of thing if I don't go home.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, for the time, what time period was it written
in the fifties, So here's a thing. He'll be fine, she'll.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Be right, and she will be right, she'll be a
whoreror because she came home late and whatever, and.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
What way she came home at all?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Well, it was snowing outside.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I saw this version where it's like where she's like,
I really must go and he's like okay, and she
kept saying line. He's like no, it's okay, no, no,
get it out. You know, maybe it's cold outside. In
the future will be problematic because we'll have to tell

(53:24):
our children that it used to be outside.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Right, We'll have to explain snow.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
The concept of snow yeah, right right, but.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Also a taxi because there's like, there's no cabs to
be had out there. What's a cab? There's a change,
there's no ubers to be had out there, you know,
it's like and if there are, they're charging what is
it called surge sarge prices? So work that all into
a lyrics up.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
It's not it's romantic.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I'm sorry, but I'm not paying extra for a cab
because it knowing it's Christmas Eve, I.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Really have to catch my uber, but I can't because
it's serves pricing.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah. Not catchy, not terribly catchy. No, no, okay, so
we've done the worst. Let's do the best.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Best Christmas movies no songs? Oh okay. So our favorite
that we share is a Little Drummer Boy and Peace
on Earth by Bing Crosby and Dovey Bowie.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
And could there be a stranger duo than David Bowie
and Bing Crosby and Bing Crosby who was mister you
know crooner, you know, popular in the forties and fifties
and whatever, and David Bowie who.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Was like a nine non binary they them, who.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Was this weirdo space alien you know whatever? And It's
the most beautiful Christmas song ever in the history of anything,
and it still makes me a little choked up every
time I hear it, and I've heard it four hundred
and fifty seven thousand times. H So my number two
song is so We're the other one. Number one is
a song called Mary's Boy Child. It was originally done

(55:05):
by Harry Belafonte, but it's the pace is so slow
that I am dead by the end of the first line,
Oh my God, not dead, dead, I absolutely die because
I'm waiting for it to go on, and it's like
I fall asleep and then I die. But then it
was done in the late seventies by a group called Boniam,
who's this Caribbean pop love band who I love all

(55:29):
of their music. But they did a version of it
which is much more upbeat and it sounds Caribbean, and
I love it. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
But that's my second, my second, and it doesn't necessarily
there's not like a specific artist, but it is Carol
the Bells because I learned a lot about it. But
also it is always one of my favorites because it's
haunting and it's beautiful, and especially if it's done in
like a church or cathedral. I love the haunting, the spooky,

(55:58):
the echo, the like different voice.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, it's amazing. I love the So do like more
the with lyrics or without lyrics?

Speaker 1 (56:07):
No, I like it with lyrics because I like the
hauntingness of that kind of like that singing very.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
By the way, it's not easy to sing. We sing
it in choir, yeah, because it's very rapid. Yeah, and well,
you also are doing layers of singing because as you're singing,
you know, hark, how the bell sweet silver bells all
seem to say through okay, people behind your singing ding
ding dong ding, you know, it's like yeah, and so

(56:33):
it's like it's a lot if you're a person like
myself who has trouble singing one thing while somebody else
is seeing something else or even singing bell dong don
dung ding some thing that's happening, you know whatever. Totally well,
I learned that it was you know, the song initially
it's a Ukrainian it's not a Christmas carol. It's like
a like they're resistant song like it was then traveling

(56:57):
for like pr essentially being like our culture matters not
sing this song and it's called something in Ukrainian. But
then some composer heard it and said, oh my god,
guess what. I discovered the newest Christmas song and he
wrote lyrics of Carolyn Bell's.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
But it's so beautiful that it ruins my life, you
know that. It's just I can feel it in my phone.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
So one of the things I learned this year, tell
me was that oh holy night, Oh yeah, is there's
an abolitionist song, because there's a whole verse that most
people don't ever sing. Most people don't even know exists
because it was banned for so long, And I'm going
to actually read the lyrics that you probably won't know. Truly,

(57:43):
He taught us to love one another. His law is love,
and his gospel is peace. Chains shall he break, for
the slave is our brother. And in his name all
oppression shall cease. Sweet hymns of joy and grateful chorus
raise we let all in us praise his holy name. Yeah,

(58:04):
there's no doubt what they're saying there. It's not subtle.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
They're saying enslaved people and beat them right.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah. And but for the longest time, people kind of
threw that verse out and it just has kind of
come to light recently and I've now heard people singing
it with that verse, and it's like, that is awesome.
And I never knew. And I was actually talking to
one of my friends the other day and I asked
her if she knew that, and because she's a musician

(58:32):
and she's black, so I thought she might know. Plus
she's just ridiculously smart, and she was like, no, I
never knew that. It's like, okay, so it's not just me.
I learned something. You know, in my family, not my
family who live with me now, but like aunt's, uncles, cousins, whatever,

(58:56):
that is something that they will hold over you, like
I know something you know, but I'm going to tell
you because I want you to feel dumb because you
didn't know, whereas I'm the kind of you know, like
my kind of thing is I just learned this really
cool thing. You probably already know it. I didn't know it, though,
And here's I want to share it with you. It's
never to be like I want you to know how

(59:17):
much smarter I.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Am than you, and I like to lord information.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
And so, and I also like to educate you because
it makes me feel so superior because you're done.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I'm not anyway, but it's that time.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
It is that time, my god, we talked about absolutely
nothing for an hour, and it's time to be done
talking and go do all our other things. I think
a nap sounds good. You know, I'm going to go
have some breakfast because I still haven't well. To be fair,
I've now had six Ritz crackers and a bucket of

(59:53):
coffee to be so chocolate. So I've had a ballast diet.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
So you're a fault.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I'm full up. I can't possibly eat another bike.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
No, why would you want to? I know I'm probably
gonna nap because what the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You're good at that though, you actually can nap, and
I struggle with that. I if I lay down, my
eyes pop open like bituy sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
That's crazy girl, because I'm like, oh sweet relie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
But if I'm watching television, especially in bed, girl, why.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Don't you just watch TV in your chair and throw
it back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Well, this is gonna sound silly because if I recline
my chair, it is uncomfortable on my knees. If I
had something like elevated my knees a little bit more
like I could roll a blanket or a pillar or
something under I could do that. Maybe I was like,
but you know I have three gigantic dogs who come
and like lick my face. Well, then you go lay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
In your bed and turn onto your TV in your room.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Ye put all right. Now my husband's in my bed
sleeping because he didn't get home until two in the
morning from work.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
So they're so I'm full of ex hurdle this, hurdle that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
But I will now sit in my chair and watch
TV and I'll be like, wait, I was an episode two?
How many episode three? Because I will not off but
it's always like a little few minutes at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Oh good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Anyway, so we're going to head out of here and
we're gonna move on with our Christmas things.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah. I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
And so we hope all of you have a wonderful
Christmas or whatever it is you celebrate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Wonderful holiday or just hanging out taking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
It off, Have a wonderful have a wonderful day. Yeah,
celebrate the winter and you know the fact that days
are now getting longer. Yeah, and that's always something to celebrate.
So are they? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Interesting happened.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Solstice was a couple of days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
The longest night my favorite day of the yeah, other
than my birthday right, which.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Is also coming right up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I know I'm gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Go ahead and say it out loud. He seven thirty seven.
Yeah you still look thirty six? Oh my god, thank yeah,
I know. All right, Well it's time for us to go.
It is time for us to go. But if you
would like to send us any message by the way,
I know I said to the last week, but thank
you Lori Lee for our little Christmas email, you said,

(01:02:22):
with a little sparkly treos lovely, thank you so much.
And we've gotten you know, I got lots of Christmas
cards and it's I love that about the season. I
send Christmas cards every year and don't usually get very many,
and that's fine, but I love getting them because it's
like they're all, you know, different things and sparkly glitter
and rhinestones and thank you this year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
So go me me go. Yeah, anyway, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
So send us sen email at it was seem as
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