It Would Seem As Though You Can Choose Your Family

This week we talk about taking care of yourself and your peace, The state of the world, and the disappearing cheeto.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
H m hm, it was how are how are the now?

(00:25):
I just spent the last you know, ten minutes just
trying to make the goddam microphones work. I know this
is what happens when you have zero technology. I know,
you know. I'm not even helping. I'm just pres this
button for the tenth time. It's different. I'm just sitting
here tapping the mic, like, why isn't it working? This
is so stressful. Yeah, it is stressful, but because what

(00:47):
we're back. We are back. We are back and better
than ever. We've almost made it through summer. We are
in September. We are in September. Yeah, kids are back
in school. They are I'm gonna tell you that has
been dang. It's been weird. The kids are in school.
I mean, yeah, so Parker started school yesterday and it

(01:12):
was just a here's how you get to know the
school freshman, yeah, freshman only. And then today's everybody, and
he has been just a fucking wreck about it. And
I'm up until yesterday, I had no idea he had
any anxiety or stress or anything about it, because he
hasn't said so.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
But yesterday he fell apart. And then today he was
just like he said, he was so nervous, he was shaking,
and them all, what is happening?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know? And I mean I get it if I
was going to high school, first of all, in you're sixteen,
I'd be crazy. He's so crazy, Like, what are you
doing here? Granny? I know, I'm sorry you lost the
old folks home? Yeah, honestly, Oh, I'm sorry. Are you
one of the teachers? I know you should be. Yes,

(02:00):
that's right, you know, But I and as you know,
we were talking about right before we started here, I
don't recall whether or not I was nervous to start
in a high school because my high school was tiny, sure,
as was yours. Go you started the same place, But
I also knew half of the people going at least
half the people in the school, because our school was

(02:23):
a combination of two towns, and so literally half the
people in the high school you're grown up with. I
didn't think that means things better, No, No, I think
that meant that the kids that you knew your whole
life got to now hang out with people who didn't
know your whole life and find new ways to torment you.

(02:44):
Interesting that actually never occurred, Yes, girl, I mean it
makes sense. And when you say it that way, well
it's because well it's like not like the kids that
I had known my whole life were nice to me.
So now I'm taking going with all these kids that
I know my whole life, who are just shitheads to me,
going into a school where nobody the other half don't
know me. So I'm gonna just be the picked on

(03:04):
kid again. Cool? Love it? What a party?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
See now? That never recurred to me. I knew that
I would still be the picked on kid because it
had been. But I'm always kind of that whole is
the evil that you know?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Sure? Yeah, you know, because like I know these assholes,
I've gone up with them total, I hate most of them,
dirt bags, but you know the whole Now they get
a gang up with new people. Yeah, it hadn't occurred
to it, I know. So it was different when I
feel like it was different for me when I transferred
to a different school because I didn't I knew a
very few people, like five maybe, and then I could

(03:36):
make my own rules. And then I was just a
raging bitch to everybody. So I really changed the tune. Yeah, now,
but yeah that was I wasn't I think you're raging bitch.
Arrow started the same years sixteen. Yeah, I was like, oh,
enough is enough, you know what I mean? You know,
it's so funny. I think about the advice that my

(03:58):
mother gave me all through school or mean to me
and whatever. It's like, if you don't rise to the bait,
they'll get bored with it, they'll leave you alone. Yeah,
they'll stop baiting you.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
And and really, in my young child's brain, it was
all about.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Trying to kill me. The hay Well, all of those
things were true. They did, yeah, and they would have
killed you a particular reason. Yeah, and some of them
didn't make attempts on my life. Sure, but literally, when
I stopped letting them know that, it got to me.
They're like, no, you're supposed to be mad or upset
or cry. Our goal today was to see if we

(04:37):
could make you cry. Well, And that's the thing with
bullies though, all that most of their ship is just
so superficial, you know what I mean. And I'm fat,
my god, like I've heard that a million times my
entire life, you know whatever. Yeah, well, and it did
get to that point for me, I'm like, clever, Oh
did you think of that when all on your okay,
But I want you to know that when I was

(04:58):
in high school, I got to use the Noxima Jackson
line of I bet you were the brightest in your class,
warrant you and no one else understood obviously, but it
was still the same of like, oh smart guy. You know.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
It makes me think of my friend MIA's line when
somebody called your friend.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
She goes, well, now that you know your shaped, maybe
tomorrow we can work. Okay. You know I've said that
because of that. I love that story and I say
shit like that. It's so funny. Yeah. I think bullies
are just they're just stupid, right. I don't think bullies
are necessarily intelligent people. No, they're just angry. I always

(05:36):
half old enough to really understand kind of the culture
of bullying. Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It really is like these people, what the fuck is
wrong with them? I know, it's like, please, don't even
shine a light up. I've got to shine this light
light of hatred.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
On you that everybody's looking at you and me, Yeah,
because it's like, look how dumb she is, Look how
she is, Like look at her, I know, and it's like,
what is your insecurity? Yeah? Some you know, fat queer.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, kid, that's you know, it's like you have to
take it all out on them.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And I wonder, what's your home life like? Probably miserable, well,
you know, especially in the country. And you know a
lot of our bodies were boys, and so I just
know that their dad's you know, or brothers, whatever it is.
But that's very masculine, rural masculine mentality is like raising
the boys to be tough and don't think, you know,

(06:29):
weakness is great or feminine.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Because their favorite insults to like each other is to
call each other like a girl.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
You run like such a girl. You run like a girl.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You're such a pussy, you feel like a girl. Yeah,
all those things like m h, why is being a
girl with band?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I know, and I remember that when I was younger,
being like what my favorite people in the world are women,
you know what I mean? So thank you so girl,
thank you my God so beautifully right. Yeah, I must
stun and run off anyway, even as a ute it

(07:04):
was not a stun and runner. I'm not a stun.
I would like, you know, run a little bit and
then wheeze and then fall down. Yeah, between the asthma
and by bad means and it's not. You're like hell,
nurse nurs Yeah, well egg, I'll be dead soon. I
just like me here, I know girl.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
What's funny about that to me is I did a show.
Let's see, the kids were little, so fourteen years ago,
thirteen whatever. I had both so thirteen years ago probably,
And I was talking to one of the people who
was working as a stage hand, as somebody i'd known

(07:47):
really well whatever, and I said, listen, here's what you
need to know.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
If you see me fall on stage. I haven't done
that for dramatic effect, right, I've actually fallen. Then I
can't get So here's what I need you to do.
I need to just close the curtain and then come
grab me by then because my dress is real slippery, yeah,
and just you slide me. Well, close the curtain first, yes,
please all mean or Luckily it didn't come to that.

(08:14):
But what I say now is if I fall down,
I now live there. I'm on the ground. This is
where I am now two feet tall, and I can't
go anywhere. I just roll everywhere. Right. I think it
would better if you had actually fallen on stage, maybe
not close the curtain, just pose on your side and
have them pour you one of those I know, opened know.

(08:37):
It was like, really honest, why not be more embarrassing?
I how many times have you fallen? Performing? Once? Twice?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
One time falling off the stage? Yes, one time, Yes,
I fell off the front of the stage. And thankfully
this stage is only like a foot.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah. Yeah, it was one step and I actually injured.
I injured my leg. I landed on my shin and
my head. My head was protected by a very good wind.
So how you had landed on your your shin in
your head? How are you following? You went forward fetal
position really quick, fell forward, okay and whatever. Yeah, but

(09:16):
bruised the bone in my leg. Oh god, Yeah, it
was serious. And one time I was doing the thing
where I because a lot of times I don't usually
turn around to go backwards, to go backwards, yeah, walk right, and.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I caught my heel in a hole and fell backwards
on my ass.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Oh god. And so yeah, I mean I think I
think just those couple of times. Yea, there may have
been more, but I don't think so. You know, but
unfortunately the places I worked where there was tall stages,
you know, never had anything because I would be dead. Yeah,
the same nightclub, which was you know, the underage club.

(09:56):
Their stage was pretty fucking high. That's crazy. And oh
she would have been doing Dragon a wheelchair from here on.
She's dead, but you've got her last show. We got
to see who the show is. That was wonderful. It
was so the dramatic ending, Oh my god, I know,
so cute. In other news, this this has just been

(10:20):
a very busy week for us on a kind of
because Gavin's father came into town. Sweet man, he's such
a sweet man, and so he came in on Saturday
and Gavin picked up.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Usband.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, he's just sweet mean and so Gavin picked him
up from the airport and dropped him off at his hotel,
and then we went to dinner. We just went to Elmer's,
so little like Denny's kind of dinner, but it was
very cute. His one his one request was to not
eat things he can get at home, like restaurants, so
like we don't want to go to like Denny's, right,

(10:56):
or don't want to go to Right exactly. But it
was fun. So we did that. The next day on Sunday,
I had an explosive migraine. I don't know. It's the
first one I've ever had, so I didn't really know
what was happening except I couldn't look at any sort
of light or wore sunglasses all day in bed. And
then I learned, oh, that's probably a migraine, which you

(11:17):
know yellow. And so they did all the things. They
went and shopped on Hawthler and they went to what
else do they Oh, they got food. They went to
the grotto. The grotto is like my one of my
favorite places in all of Portland because it's a little
oasis off a busy street eighty second and it is

(11:38):
forested and it's a natural grotto, so it's a Catholic
organization and there's like a chapel and like a monastery
and all that there, but like there's like a natural
indent in this cliff side where there's like a statue
of Jesus and there's all these candles and it's very
like a nature forward. It's so beautiful. They're a little

(12:00):
chapel is like stained glass, like I don't know, I've
only been inside the chapel once, but it was like
what I remember when I feel like I remember. It
probably wasn't like I walked into like the Sistine Chapel,
you know. I remember like it felt like it was
made of like marble, and the windows were all fucking
stained glass. And the part that freaked me out that
I was a kid was I was I was probably

(12:20):
eight or nine, and I went in to the chapel
and you could hear chanting. But the chanting you heard
was from like monks, right, but they were in like
the back chambers. They weren't in the chapel. So all
you hear is this ominous chanting from the back rooms.
And I said, I don't think I can be in here.
But so they did that. And then yesterday no wait

(12:43):
what is say? Yeah? Yes, no, sorry, God damn it. Monday.
Life is hard. We went downtown Portland. We went to
Powell's Bookstore, which if you've ever come to Portland, go
to Powell's. It's like an iconic place. We got some
food and then we went to dinner that night with
my family, so you all got to meet him. It

(13:04):
was a good time. Of course. We sat Gavin and
his father across from Parker, Grace and Grandma, so the
three best conversationalists. Grace is just like talking incessantly and
being like, well, let me give you tips on how
to teach students, and he's like okay, and then Grandma's
just staring like I don't know where I am. And
then Parker's talking at him with him yeah, and then

(13:24):
Parker's talking at him with his mouth full, and I'm like, dear,
sweet Jesus, I'm really sorry. This is the first impression
my family. Yeah, it was like I should have put
my parents like across from you or something so that
way you could have talked to adults. But oh, well,
you know, I know. But he's he's a very nice man.
He's a super sweet man. He's very accomplished, very smart.

(13:48):
Yeah for being and like you know, I say this
with I feel like this means something. He is very
devout Catholic, he's a deacon in his church, right, but
he is one of the kindestatist, most genuine open people.
Like I told you during the pandemic, he bought like
virtual tickets to watch a drag show online and he

(14:08):
bought them for himself and his sons and they all
watched it together. I love that, Like that should is
so cute to me, right, Like you're a deacon at
a Catholic church, and you're like, you expect him to
be more uptight yeaheah, more conservative, totally, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Because usually what I get from that dynamic is very shaggy. Yeah,
like I'm looking at you because of.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah. You know.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The other thing for me personally is when I'm around
people who I perceived to be much much smarter than me,
especially like math.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah math. Yeah, he's a doctor in statistics. Like it's crazy,
doctor statistics. He has a level of smart I can't
even comprehend. No numbers are concerned. Yea.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oftentimes I do feel stupid people like that, especially if
they have even a tiny bit of that arrogance of
lookouts morning and you see everything I happened talking to him.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I felt none of that. Now, it's just kind and genuine.
And what's what was cute is I was talking to
him specifically about math and numbers, and he just smiled,
and I was like, oh my god, she's yeah. Yeah.
Well I think he gets it that math isn't most
people's forte you know, because he taught math for years
at U c l A. And then he taught like
graduate and PhD students like theoretical math. That doesn't make

(15:31):
any sense to me. What do you mean theoretical math
because it exists in theory. In my world, Yeah, it
feels like math is one of those hard sciences. Like
his numbers and these numbers add up or whatever, they
equal something that you can bring it's universal, yeah, right,
and it's like it will always equal the same thing.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But theoretical Yeah, I don't get. Well, it's where I
said to him ago. When math includes letters.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I'm out. And that's like the first step out of
base math, right is letters. Yeah, I know. And because
Gavin never talked about it, he was like, he does
it in theory, and well, what does that mean. He's
just using like symbols. He's like, here's a pentagram and
a que and a squiggle line and that means forty
What do you mean? I don't understand. But yeah, he's
very smart. That is the space of a Honestly, he's

(16:20):
very smart. He's very kind. I do sometimes struggle when people,
and not with him, but in general, when I first
meet people and I find out they're super educated or
I find out they have education, and then yeah, no,
but then I find out that they're also religious, like
devoutly religious. It feels contradictory to me, and I know
it's not. This is my own thing because I've always

(16:41):
equated people who are devoutly religious for the most part
to people with less education. And that's not a bad thing.
I'm not saying I'm not reading anybody. I'm just saying
a lot of the time, religion was used to control
the masses, right, like people learn to read, people learn
to read by reading the Bible. It's all very are connected,
and so I don't know. So it's pleasant when I

(17:05):
meet people who are both educated and religious equally both
you know, and are still kind and smart, and they
you know, they can conceptualize or contextualize what's happening in
the world without being like, well, the Holy Land should
go back to Israel, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Like, oh, my God, speaking of which, did you see
that it was agreed upon by and I honestly I
wish I knew all the details, but that that was
indeed a genocide because of all these world leaders specifically
are in that particular region. Yeah, are well, yes and no,

(17:50):
but we're deemed that genocide.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, and racial cleansing, is that what I think? Ethnic
you know, and it was that I heard that yesterday
and it's like this has been going on for what
well its particular yea, yeah, go around October twenty twenty three,
almost those two years.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, and just now you're going this, well, this is genocide.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
It's been genocide since gar Mamma, since you're trying to
starve people out of their homes, yeah, or just blow
up their home. Well, and here's the thing. People think.
Genocide is the actual slaughter and murder, actual put to
death of every single person of that ethnicity or ethnic cunting.
And genocide mean you're removing those people from that land.

(18:42):
So a lot of it is through brutalization, murder, slaughter, bombing.
The other part of genocide is removing the people from
the land. That means forcing them to migrate, forcing other
nations to take them. It's taking everything that land was
connected to that people. So like for example, Gaza connected

(19:03):
to Palestine. They're taking every Palestinian out of it, whether
through a body bag or force relocation, and then they're
gonna raise it, which means that the history of Palestine,
that the ancient fucking history. Because if we remember this
is where Jesus was born, you guys, this is where
Jesus hung the fuck out. Gaza is right next to Egypt,

(19:24):
and if you've read your fucking Bible, Egypt is a
huge part of the Bible, you know what I mean.
So it is indeed Jesus was born there, like this
isn't And so so many relics, buildings, churches, whatever, mosques, whatever,
there's so many there that are ancient, like antiquity, a

(19:45):
couple thousand years old, and we're just okay with them
bombing it. But also not only is this ruining the
lives of the Palestinians, men, women, children, old people, young people,
disabled people like just people. You're killing people, you're also
destroying the land. You're destroying the environment. All animals there,
you're killing them, You're burning down trees like it to

(20:06):
me is the ugly, most vengeful, most idiotic thing to do,
because you want to take this land, which will be
raised and essentially salted, and you want to be like, yeah,
it's mine now, so you're just going to build your
holy land off the mass grave of other children, which
is what I mean. It's what the United States did

(20:26):
to Natives and black people. So like it does happen,
but they should prove to you that Israel is a
colonial state, that Israel is much like the United States,
and it's early founding where white people showed up here
where they didn't belong, where there were not white people.
It took everything. Is Israelis are white people, you guys.
For the most part, Israelis are white people from Europe.

(20:48):
And like we know, there's a difference between Ashkarnazi and
Sephardic blah blah blah. There's different types of Jewish people.
But even if you look into the history of Israel
and their race relations with people who are just a
different than them, they can be Israeli, but if I mean,
they can be Jewish in Israeli, but if they're not white,
they're treated very differently. And it's a very much a

(21:09):
cast system. So the fact or like a like Jim Crow,
like a what is what is it called? What did
South Africa have? That's it? But yeah, the whole thing
is that. And I don't understand how people look at
that and think, well, it's for the safety of the
Jewish people. You're not making Jewish people more safe by

(21:31):
making you the aggressor, by making quote unquote Jewish people,
the aggressor, the ones who are violent, the ones who
are killing and slaughtering. That does not protect you. That
makes people hate Israel. That makes people and people who
can you know, assume Israel means all Jewish people. That
makes Jewish people around the world unsafe. I assume we're

(21:52):
reading me this little snippet. Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
According to a United As the United Nations and Special Committee,
Amnesty Internet another one they can't pronounce.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Because it's another language.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Physicians for Human Rights Israel, International Federation for Human Rights,
numerous genocide studies and international law scholars, including the International
Association of Genocide Scholars, and many other experts have deemed
that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion,
and bombing of the Gauza Strip. Experts in human rights

(22:26):
organizations identified acts of genocides such as large scale killing
and the use of starvation as a weapon of war
with the intent to destroy Gauza population in whole or
in part. Other such genocide acts include distroying civilian infrastructure,
killing healthcare workers and aid seekers, using mass force displacement,

(22:46):
committing sexual violence, and preventing births.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah. So the fact that all these different organizations have
come together and said this is genocide. You can call
it whatever you like, and you can come down on
whatever side you like, but this is the facts. Yeah.
Well this makes me think though when the International Criminal
Core was like, it's genocide, and the US and the

(23:10):
rest of nations are now, well, we don't care what
you have to say. So but basically what I think
this makes me feel like the US and other nations
that are like suck in Israel as a dick are
going to be like, oh, all those Amnesty International UN
they're not valid, you know what I mean, They're not reputable.
We can't trust them.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, which is such a Trumpian kind of when you think,
because it's like everything that is against you, your thoughts
or against your policies is a lie. It's made up,
it's fake, it's whatever, which makes me feel so.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Like are we feel alive? Yes? Well I'm sure you
said them out like, then you're you're a poopola. We're
gonna kill you like everything you say. If I don't
like it, I just say it's a lie. Yep, Yes,
that's not how it works. And unfortunately right now. That
is how it works. Yeah, that is how everything seems
to be working right now. Is like I don't like

(24:13):
what you're saying, and so everything you're saying is a lie,
is a lie. Yeah, And it's like that. I feel like,
especially with the Trump regime, it is all just so
obvious and blatant and stupid, like them trying to discredit
I don't know anybody and everyone who asks questions and
the oh, well, fake news, you're a liar. It just
seems so pathetic, like none of your stances are actually

(24:35):
legitimate enough that you have to just say everyone else
is lying, that everyone else is telling lies and fake
news and they're an enemy of the state or whatever,
like it's just have a better argument than Trumpel Trump
will still skin like I don't I don't get a
Your brain is ma mas, it's mash potatas, And why

(24:57):
are you still talking up to the series this last
weekend where he hasn't been seen in like a week,
so he's dead. And I was praying to all the
God's game, I was given offerings, I was burning sage,
I was even praying praying to the Old Testament God,
like please angry Daddy, gog strike this motherfucker, you know,

(25:18):
but they didn't. Yeah. Well, one of the people who
I was listening to you yes day, yeah on you know,
who knows some platform sure, was saying how he's pretty
sure that he's had a series of strokes ding it,
I mean, which would explain a whole lot of the
word salad that comes out of his mouth. Yeah, and

(25:40):
why he hasn't been seen in a week. Lass.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
He's got you know that thing that old people have
where they just get bruised easily, like each like gross.
I mean, it's like, I get it, that's what happens.
But the fact that they tried to cover up the
bruises on his hands with bad makeup, you know, and
it's like and never address it, like girl, well he's
shaking hands.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's too hard. Who shakes ther? Yeah? That hard? And
it's like are they like giant claws? Like girl? And
if you're gonna try and cover your makeup on your body,
go get some derma blend. Bitch, what are you doing?
We're using like Caroline Levitt's fucking tinted moisturizers around his
fucking bruise purple hand on his orange skin. Girl, go

(26:21):
get some schillac. What are we talking about? Why? Orange tanning? Girl?
I know, but it's his look. It's hasn't he been
orange for forever? Was he orange? When he was younger?
I thought it was I thought he was pretty, he
was more normal? Yeah? Orange? Yeah, girl? I know? Well?

(26:43):
Also what's his name? Jd Vance was like at some
point made a statement recently saying, well, you know, I
am ready to take over if anything should happen, and like,
why are why why are people saying all these like
weird little things and behaviors have It makes me feel like, Okay,

(27:04):
is Donnie gonna bite the dust? Because that would be ideal,
you know, so I would love that. Yeah, girl, anyway,
I would Are you just reading? I'm just talking at
you and you nodding words and other things words, and

(27:28):
this has been an episode of it. It seems that
we'll talk to you later. Bye. Get Yeah, I got
my house, I got it. Just stop you, No, I
I was looking at some am I the asshole. Oh
we're doing that again for supporting Trump for you know,
political kind of stuff. And yes you are, yeah, if

(27:50):
you support Trump, you're always was like, I'm reading, I
like reading just the title and going and deciding if
they're an asshole. Yeah, I know I'm judging that book
when it's covered asshole for refusing to serve to serve
as a customer, for wearing a mega hat. Nope, no,
you're not. My brother's angry with his Trump loving sons.

(28:11):
It should be mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Am I the asshole for cutting off my family for
being Trump supporters and then feeling guilty about it? Well,
you're stupid, feel guilty. Well you're gonna feel guilty. That's like,
you know, you're probably Catholic or something Jewish.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Maybe? Am I the asshole for breaking up with my
husband because of his political beliefs? Nope? No, Am I
the asshole for supporting Trump? Yes? Honestly, Yeah, I play
the asshole for leaving my husband when he revealed he
was maga. No, okay, girl again, I broke up with
some money for using the N word one time. So
that's kind of all it takes. That's what I thought

(28:45):
that he was, Like, what, all right? So I want
to read the one for the woman who left her
husband Loma for revealing he was How did you, by
the way, not know what do you mean? He revealed it?
Like he never had hiding it. Yeah, he never had
any talking points that you were like, maybe I eight female,
m was Zach, that's red flag? Yeah for ten years

(29:12):
and married for seven So you've been together since you
were eighteen. Okay, we have four kids Jason? Wait? What
we have four kids Jason and three twins? What what
you mean? Triplets? What? Wait? And are there names? Just one, two,
and three? We have four kids Jason six months and

(29:35):
three twins, three female, three female, three male. Wouldn't that
be triplets? So wait? You have three wait? Wait? Or
they have three boys three boys? Or three boys, three girls,
three girls and Jason they have ten kids. I'm confused.
I'm confused because they have a slew of children, have

(29:57):
three twins. So it's either you have triplets or you
have six or three sets two sets of twins and
one of them died. Because if you have three kids
and it's twins, I don't know. You know the Matthew
Mathing her husband's maga. She's probably not brilliant. At the
beginning of our marriage, Zach worked why everything is in parentes? Well,

(30:20):
I earned passive income passive income as an owner of
a tech startup, and I was a stay at home mother.
It was like I was a Sam. Yet eighteen months
ago my husband lost his job. I have been able
to find we haven't been able to find it. Is
this just a joke? She does not know where he

(30:42):
would job had it? What was his job but yesterday
and now we can't find it. I'm hoping that was
supposed to be funny. So we agreed that I would
go to work and he would be the primary child care. Wait,
everything's quotations isn't great tech experience?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I was able to land a paying job where in
my particular niche What is your niche?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I took to work readily, performing far better than expected.
I was quickly promoted. Soon enough, I was working seventy
plus hours a week driving my car through the glass
fronts of seven elevens. What what is happening? This bitch
is like she did she mushrooms? I don't know, or

(31:26):
she's like I don't know. Two days ago I came
home after eight hours of tor torpedoing my Toyota through
the front walls of glass seven elevens. What is she
doing for work? Is she like just destroying shit? Is
she is she wreck at Ralph? Maybe to find my

(31:47):
my husband Kyle Zach. Wait wait wait, wait, it's the
same one. So now he's Kyle, because Kyle's a child
on a sofa. The kid's crying and unfed. I asked
him as calmly as I could why he was in
the dumpson depressed, and I asked him what we had
to do, what he had to do to be depressed about,

(32:09):
and he said, well, of the worst parts of his
life was how society makes fun of a man when
he's depressed. And I hurried out of the room, feeding
my kids as I went this whole thing first of
what was I to do with Trump? So far? So far?
I think this woman is insane or it's all our legs.

(32:29):
I went back back.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Downstairs after a shower, we sat down and watched some TIMI.
We were watching Banshee What's that? And wanted the soundtrack
louder when Anthony star banged and there was bank the
fuck is she talking about?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I don't know, girl, I don't even think I considered
that you chose I did choose it because I thought
it was a great title for but it was like, girl,
this is why you should judge, this is why you
should judge books by their cover. Well, so I'm just
gonna say, you're an asshole for even writing that. Yeah,
why are you even why did you even write it? Right?

(33:07):
Nobody even likes you anymore, bitch, not a single person
I know. And it's like, Okay, I'm going to try
and we'll try another one. I guess I should have
pre read that, probably because this is a podcast prepared.
It seems really not like my brand. I was talking
with client, what are we client? Who's about my she's

(33:27):
in my age ear and talking about how instead of
just saying, you know, that's not my thing, or I, yeah,
I don't like that, or I was like, how young
people think, well, that's really not my brand. Yeah, that's
my brain, that's not my brand. Do you have a brand?
Are you in business with somebody? And you are you know,

(33:50):
the federal government owns us? So we're are a product? Girl?
Or a product? Honey? Yeah, honey girl? Did you find
one to read? If this one's less dudient? Okay? Am
I the asshole for cutting off my family for being
Trump supporters? No? And then feel guilty about it? No,
I don't feel guilty, but now everyone knows about the
election that happened in November. Of course, while I'm unhappy

(34:12):
with the results of the election, I've come to accept
that this is our reality and that we're going to
have to deal with whatever's thrown at us for the
next four years. However, and that doesn't mean I'm going
to prevent myself from being safe, which is why I
cut my entire immediate family off for being Trump supporters
so far. So I know it's like, why wouldn't you
because they're trash.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
No, I warn't everyone prior to the election night that
if they supported him or his team in any way,
I would not hesitate to remove them from my life
because of concerns for my safety and my friend's safety.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
My friends and I are part of the legitimate quality
Algibi q plus community in some way, and most of
them were assigned female at birth. So our current presidents
elect views don't exactly favor us, No, they do not.
I expressed my concern to my mother and sister and
they both wrote it off, and they called me the

(35:05):
F word and told me to get out, practically implying
that my life and my friend's lives were less important.
That's such a motherfuckers. Yeah, after the election, I contacted
my mother and sister and told them that while I'm
happy that they got what they wanted, I would not
be around them anymore to protect myself and my friends.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, I probably told them I love them and wish
them farewell, locking their numbers and all social media platforms.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
See to me, that.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Sounds very healthy, sounds very mature, baby. I mean, it's like,
I feel like she went about it the right way.
She didn't say I fucking hate you all.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
So okay, now that Christmas is in two days, I'm
starting to feel guilty. Oh yeah, okay about what I did,
even though they've always put themselves above me and treated
me as a child. I'm telling me, I didn't know
what I was talking about or fighting for outright being homophone.
Exhears me. Why on earth would you feel guilty?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Because I feel terrible for how I treated them The
last time I talked to them. Hadn't call how many
names or insinuate that they were bad people pro voting
for him. But I still feel terrible for what I
said to them during the final conversation.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You know, it's okay I had with them.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
The last conversation I have with them, knowing that all
I had to spend spend Christmas about them and.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
What they could be saying about me is who cares?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Here's what I'm going to say, Oh my god, you
know what, I stopped doing family stuff how many years
ago when you were a young team so twenty plus
years ago, and never gave it a single thought what
they might be saying about me, or if they're.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Saying anything about me, or if they even think you
were also a fullgern adult in a marriage with a
home and a job. This person is clearly not that.
And I do get it. Parents suck, girl. Parents feed
into people's like insecurities and make you feel guilty. How
many people feel guilty over things they didn't do. I

(37:09):
still hold gil over my shitty parents. Sometimes it happens. Yeah,
I mean I wouldn't because those people suck. But like,
I'm in a very different place, right, I'm not a teenager.
I'm not like a twenty year old trying to make
it all right own. You know. Well, and did she
ever say how old she is? I don't know. I

(37:29):
don't know. My assumption is they're a young adult at least.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
The other Christmas is in two days I'm sorry to
feel guilty, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Even though they always put themselves Why I read all that? Yeah, well,
all right, because okay, this isn't to mention the fact
that my dad died almost a month before Christmas three
years ago and they relied on me to be relief
for all of them. I did what I could, just
bye how miserable I was, and they continue to take
advantage of it. However, no, girl, I didn't want them

(37:59):
feeling said matter than they already were. Ever since that
first Christmas without my dad, they've done nothing but use
me as their grief counselor Yeah, no, fuck that. For
the first time, I won't be there to support them.
So I feel guilty regarding that too. I don't understand. Well,
if you feel guilty, you gotta work through it. It's being uncomfortable. Well,
first of all, you're a people pleaser. You need to
work on that. Yeah. Second of all, this is a

(38:20):
really unhealthy relationship.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, this is codependence at its worst, and it's like
you need to get some therapy.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
But it's not shocking to me. It's not shocking. No, no, no,
because if you're brought up kind of that way, Yeah,
where that is the family dynamic and that's your job. Normal. Yeah,
you know it's like and it's not well. But also
when your parents have put that on you your entire life,
like what are you supposed to do? That's what you
think is you know that's that is normal to you,
but like, yeah, I don't know. I think also you

(38:51):
feel guilty, but it feeling guilty is being uncomfortable. So
one of our favorite things is, bitch, you gotta sit
in the uncomfort. You got to be uncomfortable with it.
Sorry about it, babes vibe.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
But and so what's interesting to me is, you know
some of the responses like I wouldn't say you're an asshole,
but more more immature for cutting them off.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
No, no, no, I'm now I will cut off a sibling,
a cousin and aunt, uncle, a parent. I don't give
a fuck if you don't serve my fucking purpose, bitch
to And it's not saying, oh, you don't do anything
for me. What I mean is if you're a detriment
to my well being, I don't need you well in
my thought.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And this has been all along, especially where this particular
political climate is concerned. You're directly voting against me my
life if you say, you know, because in these people
they always come with you.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Well, I'm voting for the economy or which by the way,
he's tanked. I'm voting because he doesn't believe in abortion, okay,
except that he's paid for some multiple I'm sure I'm
voting him because he's a good man. He's not, he's not, okay, right,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Know if he's a man who, by the way, not
that long ago, said about a ten year old girl
who was in one of the pageants like whatever, that
in ten years he would date her. It's like, first
of all, gross, she's ten and you're one hundred.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, I didn't. I don't know if you saw. But
recently there are emails going out from the White House
from Donald Trump being like, hello, friend, I would like
to get into heaven. And it's like that's how it's starting,
So like, how can you help me? What good things
can I do to immediately get into heaven?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, and he was saying he wanted to end the
war in Ukraine sure, so that he could get it there.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I know, I know, baby, I don't think that one
good act at the end of your horrible life.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
No, if there is a heaven, and if there's a hell,
which I don't believe there is, I don't think that's.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Gonna get it.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
And I know that in a lot of Christian religion,
it's like, if you ask for forgiveness, you're gone.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
You go to heaven. Yeah, what I mean?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
So you can be an asshole your whole life and
cause people nothing but grief and why and steal and
cheat and all, and then the end go, I'm sorry, Yeah,
I'm so sorry. I confessed, Yeah, and I ask for
forgiveness and now I get to go to heaven.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah. And if that's your system, your system is garbage.
I also feel like y'all created this religion for what purpose?
Like you, it's it, it's all. It means of control,
that's all it was. Girl, It's so crazy to me.
I don't know. I think religion is for a huge
part unless you are, again, a decent human being. I

(41:48):
often feel like religion is like the bane of existence
because I think people do a lot of horrific things
and have in perpetuity and forever and will continue to
do horrible things in the name of religion. And I
don't think any religion should be advocating or should be
used in the slaughter of people, the hate of people.

(42:08):
That just en just enfranchising of others, you know, like
we should. The crazy thing is like humanity, Why don't
you just take care of each other? It's so weird,
but we have that innate we need to battle, we
need to us versus them, and it's just kind of
a problem, you know, it's kind of problematic. So religion

(42:31):
to me is I've been watching a lot of people
debate religion, and I've been watching really educated people who
are like atheist debate people who grew up in religion.
And I want you to know, if you grew up religious,
you don't know anything. I want you to know you
don't know anything about religion, Like you haven't studied it.
You were told shit and you've read the Bible, and
you've taken the bye from what you exactly and to me,

(42:54):
and yes, I know.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
There are religious people like for example, who is actually
educated religion and so he does know shit and he
knows you know, the ins and outs of it.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yes, but a lot of people, and I think most
people who grew up in a religion, whatever that religion is, yeah,
didn't question anything and just now, oh, I'm supposed to
believe that, yeah, okay, well, And so many of the
debates I watch are educated atheists debating people who grew
up in religion, and I'm like, they, you know, the
atheist is like up, they have education, They intentionally study

(43:26):
this information, and you guys are just taking your pastor
your priest, your parents word for it, and that shit
is bananas to me. There's nothing I take anyone's word
for based on the fact that I know them right, Like, well,
my mama said that Jesus God is well, okay, well,
your mama also used to you'll also got a lobotomy
in the sixties, Like what are we talking about? You

(43:47):
know what I mean? Like cool? Not everyone is an expert.
Not everyone is an authority on everything. Just in case
you're wondering what I know. I know it's shocking. It
is shocking because I believe that, you know, all these
people who were on the internet talking about all the
things are all experts. So I watched this man the

(44:10):
other day, and I know you know who he is, but.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
He specifically talks to mega people and then tries to
logic out there things which there is no logic involved,
so you can't. But also, you know these Christian right
when Christian folks, and he asked this guy because it
was part of the conversation, do you believe that God

(44:34):
specifically saved Trump from the bullet or whatever? And he's like,
well yes, and he goes, so you believe that God
redirected that bullet into the body of another human and
killed them. Well, so what you're telling me is in
God saving Trump, you know from that bullet that he

(44:58):
chose to save him, but kill some man who was
a father and has children and you know, was in
the military and all, so.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
His life was less important in God's eyes.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And of course the guy he was talking to said
the same ship that they always say as well, you
know God has a plan, does he? And his plan
included killing this guy who needed to take care of
his family.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, yeah, and all to do what to save the
cheeto in charge? I know. I also people say like,
God work for misters. Ways, you only say that because
nothing is good has happened in your life and you
still live in girl. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
to me. We're gonna try, We're gonna try this one.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Oh God, am I the asshole for refusing to attend
my friend's wedding because they support Trump.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Just from the headline, I'm gonna say no. Yeah, but
you know, last.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Time I read one from some crazy person who couldn't
even a sense who knows. All right, buckle up, fellow renders,
because I need to vent about a situation that's been
eating away at me for weeks.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
It's time to spill the tea and see it in
this scenario. See if your assholes in the tead.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I know that sounds uncomfortable, but yeah, So here's the deal.
My longtime friend, let's call him Chad.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Chad, let's hope you don't change his name in the
middle of like the last one getting married. Now, normally
i'd be over the mood for him popping champagne and
dancing the night away and celebration. But here's the catch.
Chad is a diehard Trump supporter. Yeah you heard it right, folks,
mega hats and all. So then why is he still
your friend? Yeah? I know, have that strong of a

(46:41):
feeling Trump support. How is he even still your friend? Now?
I know you're thinking, I hope he isn't important. It
isn't important, isn't it important to separate politics from personal relationships.
And normally i'd agree with you, But we're talking about
supporting a man who's made his to the tearor part
in the fabric of our society, spewing hate and bigotry

(47:03):
left right and center. So I'm with you, right, I'm
with you all all. You know, all of it sounds
reasonable so far. So when Chad sent me the invite
to his wedding, I couldn't help but feel a way
of disgust, showing me how could I, a crowd advocate
for equality and justice, stand by and watches my friend
pledges his love and commitment while supporting a man who

(47:26):
embodies everything I stand against. Was that I'm not gonna
famed wedding, you imagine.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I tried to reason with myself, telling myself it's just
one day that I can put aside my differences for
the sake of our friendship. But the more I thought
about them, where I realized that attending his wedding would
be a betrayal of my own values. It'd be like
endorsing Trump himself, like saying, hey, it's cool to be
at bigot as long as we're friends. So I made

(47:54):
the difficult decision to ours be a regretfully declined to
Chat's wedding.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
And let me tell you that Atlashes fears. Chat accused me.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Of being intolerant and closed minded, of letting politics ruin
our friendship, even had the audacity to call me a cuckold.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Can you believe that? Not sure what that has to
do with anything, but why would you call your friend
a cuckold? You stupid liberal cock? Yeah, but I refuse
to apologize for standing before I believe it.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I refuse to be complicit in chats normalization of hatred
and division.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
So am I the asshole if he's going to attend
my friend's wedding because it's for Trump? Or am I
justifying taking a standing as a big tree no matter
the cost. Let's hear your thoughts. My thought is, so
your friend is fucking stupid, talk like how are you
being friends with this dumb bitch? Being like, oh, you
used to be big cockold you know, welcome my mag
o bedding. Okay, I'm gonna read this comment because I

(48:50):
think that I'm gonna have to say I agree with this.
I don't understand why his political affiliation there is suddenly
a problem. Yeah, now that he's getting.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Married, do you say that he's your friend but refuse
to go to his wedding because he supports Trump? If
politic is such an important aspect of your life, why are.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
You even friends with him to begin with? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And that's coming from someone who hates Trump from the
bottom of my heart. That makes way more sense.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Why this?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, So if you're you've remained friends with this guy
and Trump has been you know, was probably the president
person twenty sixteen, it's probably your friend's probably a geral Trumper,
probably voted for him each time he ran, right.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
But now I know now a warning, now warning, Yeah,
because he's getting married, is going to his wedding, is
supporting his political It is Donald Trump. There's Donald Trump
sign bibles or whatever. Is he making? You donate money
to Trump's campaign? Like I don't. I wouldn't go either
because I would assume everyone was a Trump supporter, right,

(49:53):
But I also want to be his friend.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
So this person said, you are the asshole. I don't
understand what you're soul friends with him? Yeah, if you're
so disgusted by his values that he refuse.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
To show up for him in this big day. Why
is he a regular part of your life? Agreed? The
wedding has nothing to do those political beliefs. Why is
this the moment you pick to take a stand? Yeah,
this wedding isn't about you. No, go or don't go?
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Don't make his life difficult because you want to take
a stand. For the record, my political beliefs are the
same as yours. I would not keep a friend like
Chad in my life. No, you're not solving anything by
not showing up. You're just making yourself look like an asshole.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Agreed, snaps for your friend, I agree. I Yeah, I
I don't think I'm friends with anybody outwardly that I
that I know of who is a Trump supporter. Also,
because I don't care if you're If you're like, well,
it's for the economy, I mean, you're stupid. But also,

(50:50):
there is nothing redeeming about Trump. You guys like literally nothing. Uh.
And if you're a single issue voter being the economy, okay,
why can't you be a single issue voter like equality,
you know what I mean? Why can't be a single
shabout er with like, oh, everyone's treated better, not just
these rich white men with no culture, you know what
I mean, Like, I don't understand that these adulterous, pedophilic

(51:14):
white men. And it's like, first, you know, he's all
signing executive order there's only two genders, like because the
rest of it somehow affects him, right and get a
life and anything that's that's uh my brain just went
out the window.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Uh d e I, yes, it was all d well.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah, but it needs to stop because it's all bad. Well.
I was talking about this over the weekend with Gavin
and his dad about how Trump flagged or had people
in like photo archives of the military flag anything that
was considered DEI, which also just included pictures of black
service members, Like, what do you mean You're just gonna
remove these pictures of people who fought, who joined the military,

(52:03):
who did all the ship You're gonna remove it because
their skin colored? Like that's weird, bro, Get a life.
Yeah yeah, okay, he read probably one more. We'll see.
Am I the asshole for not going to a family
gathering because they are religious conservatives? No?

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Already no, no, And first of all, I'm gonna say
before I even read this, if you don't want to
go to family stuff, don't go, like.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Jesus anything, and you don't want to go sound good
to you don't go, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Then nobody's making that. One of the beauties of being
an adult is you can say no.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
I mean I haven't gone to things that are even
ordinarily go to because I'm just so emotionally, you know,
tapped out, tap out. I can't. Yeah, I don't want to,
and so I'm not gonna and.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I'm not gonna feel bad about it because whatever. But
if it's something I don't even want to go to, yeah,
I'm certainly not.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Gonna feel baby. Every Labor Day week and my uncle
throws a big party gathering where a big family gathering
where everyone camps out on his property. Already done camping. Yeah,
my husband and I have been to one a few
years ago with our son and we had an okay time.
But everyone there except me and my husband are religious,
gun toting mega conservatives. Everyone's gonna get miserable, everyone's gonna

(53:26):
get shot. Well, Well here's yes, girl. When I stopped
attending Christmas things with my family biological family, Uh, I
remember Annika calling me. I remember when you called me
and said that.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
This is what had gone on at this particular Christmas
event is that everybody was drinking as they do, all
the adults, and then they went out shooting ships. So
all these drunk folks went out with their gun. Now
they just doing target practice.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
They were shooting because okay, where they were, there's like
the road goes up to the house, but it's like
an elevation. So they're shooting at the the edge of
this cliff, the top of their like bluff whatever, shooting
over the gravel road, just shooting into the sky, all
of them. Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, they were shooting
targets down somewhere. Yeah, yeah, okay, but that's when we

(54:25):
call that Christmas lovingly glug glug, bang bang, because everybody
was drunk drink. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
For example, one of my cousins is an ear nurse,
and he tells parents not to give their kids a
COVID vaccine. Half of the people there aren't COVID vaccine
and believe COVID is a conspiracy. They are mean people,
but they are Fox News junkies, judgmental Christians, and I
can't stand as the words that comes out of their
mouths well then don't go.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Well, they're also stupid They're not just ignorant, right, It's
like ignorance is like I didn't know better, but stupid
is like they definitely know and they come up with
their own result, like their own ideology, and it's fucking stupid.
They're stupid, and stupid people are fucking dangerous. Right. So
a little background. I thirty six, femal, grew up a
pastor's kid and was religious and conservative until I went

(55:13):
to college. And that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
After getting out of my protected bubble upbringing, I found
that I didn't align with the way.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I was raised. Common Yeah, and then I started dating
my now husband and we moved in together before we
were married. Oh gasp. My parents didn't talk to me
for six months because of this decision, which really solidified
my decision to leave them. Well if yeah, you're just
living with somebody, and that's like my parents wouldn't talk

(55:43):
to me about how habitating for the best.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
It's been over ten years that trauma. Through a lot
of pain intense interactions, I've rebuilt my relationships with my
parents to a mildly superficial but mostly peaceful place. We
have skipped the past few Labor Days gatherings mostly because
we didn't want to go, but I had valid excuses
for me being pregnant with our second child, horrible nausea

(56:10):
throughout the entire pregnancy and then giving birth to said
child does seem like good reasons to stay away.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
But also I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Go amazing reason this year I don't have. I want
to be honest with my parents about why we don't
want to be there anymore.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I know I'm going to hurt my mom's feelings, especially,
so I'm a little torn. It just feels like this
goes so beyond politics now, Like I don't want to
be around anyone who voted for Trump and aligns with
his values. But I understand how important this family gathering
is to my parents and it's just one day out
of the year.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Nope, Am I the asshole for making it about politics?
And if I'm not, does anyone have a good way
to express my feelings without thingdic?

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yes, say I don't feel like going. I don't want
to camp. Where would be for me? I don't want
to be a lot of people guns. Don't want to
be around guns or trauma blovers or god, any of it. Yeah,
you know, and it's like, and I don't want my
son to be around it. No, you know it's not
as absolutely not where I would want to be. No, no, yeah,

(57:18):
I'm sorry, but yeah, don't. Just honestly, everyone, here's what
I'm gona tell you all. I understand you have guilt
and you have trauma, and parents and families are stupid
and awful. Grow up. Just say no, no they don't.
You don't. Yeah, honestly, just say I don't want to go,
and you don't mean to say like sorry, Just say no,
I don't want to go.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I don't remember if I told this story here before.
I probably told every story. But multiple years ago I
was invited to a family reunion and I was I
was gonna go? Where was I felt obligated to go?
Wasn't it in like Wyoming?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
No? Because it was one I was going to drive
to Lessen to Washington, I'm guessing, And I was all, God,
I don't want to God. And then at the end,
I was like, you know what, why am I Why
am I going? If I don't want to stop, I'm
having this much dread about it, Why then am I going?
And so I and i't even started packing my car?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Crazy this is stupid, and so I unpacked my car
and then I sent my.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Aunt a message and said, I'm not coming, sorry about it, Sorry,
not sorry. I don't want to go. I don't like
most of those people, you know.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I have a few people in my family, but on
like my father's side, so my father's other children.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And you know, his siblings and whatever. There's a few
people I absolutely love. I love my.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Sister Linda, I love I don't really I mean, my
other sister I don't know very well, and she's a
lovely person.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
But I don't know her very much. Sure, But his.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Siblings mostly new arrogant assholes. I love his sister, my.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Aunt Grace one of them, and I love you know,
my cousin her children. All Right, we don't know less
everyone you love continue most of them. I really want
nothing to do with it. Yeah, girl, why would. I
didn't want to have to hear any other nonsense, you know.
I was like, no, you're not going to go to

(59:22):
debate people. No, that's just it. I mean, in the last,
the last time I went to a big family thing
like that, which was I don't know. A few years back,
my one uncle who God rest his soul, pass away
four years ago. I'm in the middle of a.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Conversation like close as we are right now, and he
sticks his head literally between us to say to me, oh,
just so you know that when your father died, really
bad about not being a parent to you knows ault one.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I don't care. I don't believe that. In three, I'm
in a little of a conversation. I'm doing something man right,
so you know why.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
But the moral of the story here is if you
don't want to be at any gathering, whether it's family.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Friends, who cares, Yeah, girl, don't go and don't feel
guilty about it. It's your life. Why would you do
something that makes you feel miserable? Girl, there and choose
the people that make you happy spend time with them. Well,
but also, let me tell you, and even sometimes I
don't want to be around the people to make me happy. Listen, anybody, listen,
because we have family dinner every week and there's sometimes

(01:00:32):
where I'm like I'm two worn out, I have a
headache or whatever, and I'm like, I won't be enjoyable.
I don't want to do it to me, you know whatever,
that's not a bad thing. That's me being like I
know that I'm not going to be an enjoying, enjoyable
person to be around. Also, I'm not up to it.
Why am I gonna put myself? You know? And it's
not that And I love everyone at family dinner, Obviously
I'm not gonna I'm not skipping because I'm all hating
you and trying to find an excuse. Right, But I

(01:00:55):
think also people just need to take care of themselves.
That's we need to focus on our taking care of
ourselves and making connections with groups of people that matter
to you. If it's not your family, it's not your family.
You're related to them by happenstance, bitch, by random selection? Right, Like,
would I ever talk to the people that most of
the people are related to had I not been born

(01:01:15):
into the family, No, bitch never. That's one of the
things that I came to believe years and years ago,
is just because I'm related to you by some genetic whatever, Yeah,
that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
No, because most of my family then I grew up with,
they're so diametrically opposed to what I believe, and some
of them are just horrible people. Yes, And so I
wouldn't choose to be around them. I wouldn't just go, hey,
you seem like a fun cat to hang out with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, no, no, no, Why as an adult would I
choose to do that? Yeah, I know exactly. There's no way.
There's no way I would ever No, But I mean
I also made the decision from a very young age
because inspired by you. When I was all I am out,
dropped into high school, left all of fame behind and

(01:02:11):
didn't talk to them for several years. It was like
want to I don't need to you guys cause me
so much stress and anxiety and being here sucks and
I feel like I'm losing my mind. So I left
and did talk to them. And so really the moral
of this story is give therapy m M, and take
care of yourself, yes, and find people. And that's not selfish.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
No, people go, well, that sounds so it's not selfish
to take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
And yeah, it's like think of.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
It as the airplane when they say make sure put
the oxygen on yourself before you put it because if
you pass out, then you're both gonna die. Take care
of your knees, yes, or you can't really take care
of anybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Well, And I'll also tell you if you like, oh,
I hate my family, but I don't have anyone else.
You're gonna have to put yourself out there to find
other people. Right. People aren't just gonna show up to
your door, wheel door, be my friend, yeah, or be
a hermit, because like, I'm that way. But I have
enough friends, I know enough people. I don't needmore. I'm
no longer accepting no, girl, because here's what I've learned.

(01:03:12):
Either my best friends are the people who live next
door to me, my family, or they all move I
move away from them when they move away from me.
That's it. I can't have friends close to me because
I have the Rachel La, Sarah Idaho, Sebastian across the world.
I know what am I supposed to do anyway? I know,
but yeah, just find people who matter to We're done

(01:03:33):
good therapy. Yeah, girl, haven't had therapy. Good therapy. If
you've had therapy, then you know what we're talking about,
and go get more therapy therapy you need it well.
And that's the other thing is I think a lot
of people go to therapy work. Also, you could have
just gotten a therapist. Also, it's like being in a
kind of relationship if you're not right for you, that's

(01:03:55):
not gonna work. Yes, girl, I know I told you
how to fix your lives and she won't take any
of that advice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But that I told you size, I'm going to get
out of here and go do other things to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Other people's life. Yes, because of the world. My god,
she is so holy, I know. Yeah, I have to
get ready. Our little show comes out every Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
It does, it does, indeed, and so tune in, tune out, whatever, But.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
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we'll see you later, guys. Okay, bye,