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March 31, 2024 58 mins
On this Post Valentine’s Day 2024 edition of Live from Hollywood…It’s Paranormal Tonight! host Dan Harary will interview his longtime friend Dr. Ava Cadell, one of the world’s leading authorities on Love, Romance, and Relationships. Ava began her career as a model in Europe and an actress/TV star in Hollywood, before earning two Masters Degrees in Human Behavior. She then coined the term LOVEOLOGY, and became a LOVE-OLOGIST (aka Certified Love Coach,) treating couples in her West Hollywood office. Ava then evolved into becoming a global speaker, lecturing all across North America, Europe, Asia, Africa, and Australia. Ava is also the author of eleven books, including NeuroLoveology: The Power to Mindful Love & Sex, which was endorsed by Dr. John Gray, Author of Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus fame. Continuing her evolution, Ava went on to become the Founder of Loveology University, an online educational website, and today operates a 45-acre property near Santa Barbara, CA, called “The Loveology Retreat.”

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(00:56):
Boy from Hollywood. It's very normalTony. I'm Mark Summers and now here's
your host, Dan Harari. Helloeveryone, thank you for joining us tonight
on Paranormal Tonight. My name isDan Harari, and I hope you all
had a nice Valentine's Day yesterday.We have the perfect guest tonight to tell

(01:19):
us about the history of Valentine's Dayand love and romance and all those good
things. For those of you whodon't know me, I've been a Hollywood
publicist for forty years. We're broadcastingtonight from my office in beautiful downtown Beverly
Hills. I know my show sayslive from Hollywood, it's Paranormal Tonight,

(01:41):
but technically it's live from Beverly Hills. It's Paranormal Tonight. I figured,
you know, that's pretty close.I'm also the author of two books,
Flirting with Fame, which is righthere, and that's the history of my
career in Hollywood and all the wackystories I have with a lot of famous
celebrities. And every week my motherwatches the show and she yells at me.

(02:02):
She goes, you know, Danna, you're not promoting your books.
And now if you gotta promote yourbooks. So Mom, I'm promoting my
books, okay, flirting with fameI Amazon. Of course. My other
book, After They Came, Thisis my science fiction novel about benevolent aliens
who come to Earth to save mankind. Came out last year and because of

(02:24):
this book, I've met a lotof very very prominent UFO researchers and upologists
from around the world, and theyare actually my friends. Now. I've
become very good friends with a lotof the major UFO people. So this
book After They Came really affected mylife. Please check them out on Amazon.
Okay, I did that for mymom. Tonight, we have the

(02:46):
perfect post Valentine's Day guest. Myguest tonight is my very dear friend,
doctor Ava cadell Ava began her careeras a model in Europe before relocating to
Hollywood in nineteen eighty two two.There, she became an actress, appearing
in many fun action films, includinga movie called Commando with Arnold Schwarzenegger,

(03:08):
and later she became a TV starand she appeared on the Playboy channel as
a movie critic on a TV showcalled Pillow Previews. And the reason I
bring that up of course, isthat's where I met Ava Caddell. I
met her on the set of PillowPreviews in nineteen eighty four. Forty years

(03:29):
ago. I met Ava Kadell.Forty years ago. I had hair then.
That's how long ago it was whenwe met. I was the publicist
for the Playboy channel at the time. Ava then went on to reinvent herself
numerous times. She earned two doctoratedegrees in human behavior before coining the term

(03:51):
lovology. Ava created the word lovology, which is a fantastic word. She
then became a Lovologist, which isa certified love coach, and opened an
office in West Hollywood. There shespecialized in helping couples learn how to better
communicate with each other. Next becominga global speaker, Ava has lectured in

(04:15):
more than fifty countries all across NorthAmerica, Europe, Asia, Africa,
and Australia. Ava is also theauthor of eleven books, including neuro Lovology,
The Power to Mindful Love and Sex, which was endorsed by doctor John
Gray and Doctor John Gray is theman who wrote men are from Mars,

(04:40):
Women Are from Venus. Continuing herevolution, Ava then went on to become
the founder of Lovology University, whereshe created forty online courses. Through that
online educational website, she has trainedthousands of people around the world, helping

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them to become certified relationship, loveand healing coaches. In twenty twenty two,
Ava acquired a forty five acre propertynear Santa Barbara, California, from
zen Monks. She named the propertywhat Else the Lovology Retreat. The property
includes a Buddhist temple at a giantstupa. I've been there, it's magnificent.

(05:25):
At the site, she trained certifiedrelationship coaches who bring their clients to
private retreats from around the world andthere they all their focus is to help
people heal and reinvent themselves. Sonow let's bring in Race. My dear
friend and colleague and someone who Iadmire in love very much, doctor Ava

(05:46):
Cadell. Wow, what amazing introduction. Thank you, Dan. And there's
directions on your books. Thank you, my books, my podcast, my
UFOs. Yes, these wonderful things. How are you. I'm great,
thank you. I'm at my retreatwith my dogs and goats and cats,

(06:08):
and I'm great. Thank you.That's great. That's great. I was
there. I think it was summerof twenty twenty two or twenty one of
those summers, and it were reallya lot of fun that day. It
was a wonderful place we did.Let's jump right in, shall we I
have some prepared questions and let's rockand roll. You're ready, I'm ready?

(06:28):
Okay, babe, here we go. You went from being a model
and an actress to a therapist,global speaker, author and highly successful healer.
You say you reinvented yourself seven times? Right? How did you do
all those things? And before youstart race, let's put up slide number
one please? Oh all right,talk and we'll show some fun pictures as

(06:54):
you're speaking. Well. Yes,I started with some modeling assignments. I
did some billboards for Meyers Rum andthe Bush Gardens in Florida, and then
I came to Hollywood to pursue myacting career. And my first job was
in the theater in a play byBuddy Epson and it was called Cabaret Dada.

(07:20):
Now. That play helped me toland an acting agent, and then
I was fortunate to be cast inlots of TV shows that you mentioned,
as well as my own show onthe Playboy channel, which is where we
met. And then I also gotroles in movies, but I was getting

(07:41):
kind of typecast as a bimbo.Not that that's a bad thing, it
kind of felt like a backhanded compliment. However, there was an unexpected silver
lining that I received in the formof lots of fan mail, and apart
from wanting sexy photos, you know, autographed, a lot of people,

(08:05):
especially men, were asking me howto help them with their love lives and
their intimacy issues. But I reallywasn't comfortable answering those letters because I didn't
feel like I was qualified to doso, even though I was playing all

(08:26):
these bimbo roles. So that's whenI decided to reinvent my life from modeling
and acting to going back to universityand to get to doctorates in human behavior
so that I could open up myown private practice and basically help people to
overcome, you know, whatever issuesthey have that were preventing them from having

(08:52):
healthy, loving relationships. So that'show I started reinventing my life, from
modeling to acting to going back touniversity, and then of course I became
a media therapist and a love coach. Like you said, absolutely right,
all right, So Race, that'sslide two. There's slide three. You

(09:13):
mentioned myers, rum I love thatpicture. That's such a wonderful picture.
Ah, thank you. And thenand then there you go, there's that's
the that's model ladies and gentlemen,model Ava Cadel. What a wonderful And
I was young and innocent. Yeah, and I had hair, and you
and I lived across the street fromeach other. I should I know.

(09:33):
It's fantastic. We were meant toconnect. I do believe in destiny.
Yeah, we were meant to befriends. So all right, so let's
see now what's next here, Race, Let's put up slide number five.
Please, there we go. Ah, there I am looking so innocent.
So in the seventies and eighty eighties, you were a sex symbol, like

(09:54):
you mentioned, you were on showslike The Fall Guy, Dallas Hotel,
Love Boat, My Camera, andin movies like Commando and Fit to Kill,
which I think is the next.Well, well, keep this slide
up, Race for a second.We met in eighty four, right,
we met you and I met thisday, Ava. When this photo was
taken, I was standing right therewith the photographer. Oh really, who

(10:16):
was the photographer? Do you remember? I don't remember but this is the
day we met. I believe itwas May eighty four, so it's exactly
forty years. We've been friends forforty years. My goodness, isn't that
crazy. That's longer than most marriages. I know you and I have been
We've never had a fight or anargument. We've been really good friends for

(10:37):
four every day for forty years.Oh, you know our birthdays are very
close, so astrologically we're definitely youknow, we have synchronized energy. Absolutely.
I'm June seventeen year, June fifteen. Yeah, I remember. Let's
see, all right, race textone slides six Please all right, So
Ava, look do you remember this? I do not. Where are we?

(11:01):
Okay? Look at the far left, Yeah, that's you and me.
I see that we were at You'vegot a mustache, you've got nice
glasses. Look at that's before Ihad and that's before I had children and
a lot of thingsture. So thisis you and I at a playboy mansion

(11:22):
party. Oh, at Hugh Hefner'sbackyard under a tent. And do you
recognize the woman in the center ofthe photo. Isn't that he? Isn't
that Christy Heffner. That's Christy Heffner. She was running Playboy Enterprises at the
time, and the man she wastalking to was the president of the Playboy

(11:43):
Channel, a Michael Brandman I thinkwas his name. Oh, okay,
so you and I photo. Youand I were there. I found that
if I spent hours digging through myscrap books because I knew I had it,
and I enhanced it with the colorand everything. But isn't that a
fun photo of us? Phenomenal?I love it. Yes, it's the
very first photo of us ever takentogether. Ah. I think it's hilarious.

(12:07):
Race next photo, please, Okaythere you are so all right?
So you're in the far right.This movie is called Fit to Kill?
Is that correct? I think itis. Yeah, All of Andy Sidaris
movies sound the same. And Iwas in Hard Hunted, Fit to Kill,
Do or Die? Yeah, Hardto Kill, Hard to Hunt all

(12:31):
of a sudden, yeah, Imean, but it was great. I
was a hit woman in that movie. That is such a great picture.
So I don't know if I evertold you, But the second to the
left from the left on a spear, the blonde I had such a crush
on her, and she and Idid a photo shoot together for Playboy during
that era. And I took herto lunch one day to Carney's Do you

(12:52):
know Carne's hot Dogs? And wehad lunch and I and I said,
Donna, I said, you're sopretty. I said, if I wasn't
married, I would so ask youout. She chuckled. It turns out
she was dating she was dating BillCosby at the time. Oh my goodness,
isn't that funny, Like she's goingto go out with me. She's

(13:13):
dating Bill Cosby at the time.I didn't know that. But she had
lunch with you, Dan. That'sthat's pretty good. That's as far as
I ever got with Donnas. Yeah, beautiful woman. So I guess my
question, which you answered, Butwe could go a little deeper. How
did your sex simple past affect thecourse of your career and moreph you into
becoming a love coach? And youcould go into that maybe a little deeper.

(13:35):
Well, first and foremost, I'mso grateful to Playboy for making me
the host of Pillow Previews because itintroduced us to each other. And you
know, as you said, we'vebeen friends ever since. So that's very
near and dear to my heart.But yeah, you know, I think

(13:56):
that my evolution from the payboy channelto becoming the founder of love Ology University
and training love coaches was actually mynatural progression for my career and it really
gave me a platform to educate andempower people to make love a priority in

(14:18):
their lives. And then, I'msure you've heard that saying that we all
teach what we need to learn themost. Well, that's me. I
needed to learn at an early stagein my life all about love and romance
and intimacy because I was raised bynuns, strict nuns by the way,

(14:43):
who told me that if I everkissed a boy, a baby would pop
out of my mouth. So Igrew up a very confused teenager and it
really was my destiny to be alove guru, which and now I feel
like I'm actually a healer as well. So yeah, I love my mission,

(15:07):
my my life's mission, and Iwant to leave a legacy, you
know, I wanna I want someoneto say after I've gone, oh,
yes, doctor Ava helped me tolove and heal. That would be so
cool. That's wonderful, it reallyis. Well, you have so many
books you've written, you have abeautiful retreat property, you've helped thousands of

(15:28):
people, You've lectured all over theworld. I mean, are you sure
from the sex sibil, you sureevolved and I so admire how you how
you evolved yourself. It is verycommendable, really, it is. All
right. Let's jump over. Soyesterday was Valentine's Day, and obviously you
know a lot about that. Canyou tell us what what's the mythology of

(15:48):
Valentine's Day? Cupid, Saint Valentine, Aphrodite, any of those things,
because I know none of it.I know, I know none of that
information. Well, you got thenames right. So in Greek mythology,
Cupid was the son of Aphrodite,who was the goddess of love, and

(16:08):
Eros was the god of love.So Cupid was their son who was kind
of like a matchmaker. He connectedtwo people by shooting his arrows of love
that made them instantly fell madly inlove with each other. But historically it

(16:30):
is said that Romans held an annuallottery where they placed women's names in a
box and then men chose their namesat random, which resulted in having a
female companion for the duration of oneyear. It's kind of creative actually,

(16:55):
Now, Saint Valentine. He wasa priest who performed wedding in the third
century, but marriage was banned byEmperor Claudius because he thought that it made
men very poor soldiers if they hada wife and children at home. So
he decided to execute Saint Valentine onFebruary the fourteenth by cutting his head off.

(17:22):
Not very romantic at all. However, Valentine's Day was only celebrated in
the fourteenth century when Saint Valentine wasmade a martyr by the Catholic Church,
and that's when the exchange of cardsand gifts and an expression of love every
year became a very famous holiday.How's that for a story that's very interesting.

(17:51):
So it's about six it sounds likeit's six or six hundred years old.
And it started where what country didit started? The Romans? Well,
yeah, I mean the Romans inhistory, it was the Romans.
In mythology, it was the Greeks. The Greeks, okay. And then
the other day when we were speaking, you mentioned that people around the world
celebrate Valentine's Day in different ways.Do you know some of those? I

(18:17):
do. Actually, most countries nowdo celebrate Valentine's Day by giving flowers and
chocolates. But there are a fewcountries who celebrate Valentine's Day in their own
way, such as in Denmark,lovers exchange handmade cards with pressed white flowers,

(18:38):
which are called snowdrops. That's alot of work, isn't it do
to do that every year? Butthey do it. They do it in
Denmark. Now in Japan, onlywomen buy gifts for their male partners and
lovers on Valentine's Day, but mencannot return gifts until March fourteenth, which

(19:03):
is called the White Day, soyou see, men have an extra month
to find the perfect present. Veryunfair. But my favorite, and I
think you'll like this one is inGermany, couples exchange pig shaped gifts because
the pig is the symbol of loveand lust that in Germany. In Germany,

(19:30):
right, thus the nazis So thereyou go, right, I don't
know about that, but that's verypeculiar. Anyway, we have some good
friends from Germany, so I thoughtit was hilarious. That's really something I
didn't know any of those things.Race. Can we please put up slide

(19:52):
number eight? There we go,all right, So after you ended your
modeling and acting career, you becamea very well known love and relationship therapist.
I remember visiting you there at youroffice West Hollywood. You've been helping
people on their journeys of love formany years. You say their journeys are
marked by growth, understanding, andconnection. Those are terrific things. What

(20:18):
are some of the ways you helppeople with healing and self discovery and love
and romance? So I've created theseamazing courses to help people find love,
create passion, or rekindle passion andreally enrich their intimacy, mainly through my

(20:38):
programs and courses at Lomology University andthen also my seminars. So I do
train love coaches, relationship coaches,and most recently, I created a certified
healing program for coaches which has onehundred and fifty hours of multimedia content.

(21:00):
But I also have a seven hourhealing course for individuals. And my healing
modality is called Heal H E AL, which is an anagram for heal,
energy, awareness and love. Nowyou can practice these things daily without
having to buy one of my programs. I'll tell you right now. Mentally,

(21:26):
if you think positive thoughts and youstart manifesting that's going to really help
you to find true love. AndI think true love is self love and
self value and self confidence. Andthen physically, I recommend that you do
activities that make you feel happy andhealthy. So whether it's dancing or hiking,

(21:52):
or yoga or boxing, whatever itis, you want to do something
daily. And then spiritually, ifyou want to find spirituality, you need
to look inward and explore your ownyour own desires and even your own fears
through maybe journaling and meditating. Andthen finally, emotionally, I recommend really

(22:18):
trying to forgive yourself and nurturing yourselfthrough self care. Now I see you
showing a photo of me in GeneSimmons. Yeah, I came to my
office and he asked me for help. He wired me to hypnotize him so
that he would no longer be asex addict and extra the TV show and

(22:44):
NBC was there to film the wholeexperience. Did it work well? It
did not work, but it wasvery interesting because when I put him under,
I asked him to become one ofhis most significant Coodn't relationships. So
I told him to become the womanin a relationship that really meant something to

(23:07):
him, and so can you guesswho who? He became? His mother?
No, Diana Ross. He hadan intimate relationship with his mother,
well, heated, he dated.I know he dated Diana Ross. I
know that they lived together. Andso when I hypnotized him, he spoke

(23:32):
like Diana Ross. His inflections,his body language, everything was Diana Ross.
And so I said to him,Diana, what do you think of
Jeene having sex with thousands of womenwhen he's got you? And then he
said, in his most feminine voice, I never did understand that about him.

(23:59):
So he was a very enlightening session. And you know it didn't cure
him of his sexual compulsion with womenbecause he didn't really want to change.
I think he enjoyed being a womanizer, right, I agree with you.
I first, so when I wasin high school, I think you know

(24:22):
this. I worked at a rockconcert hall in Asbury Park, New Jersey,
in my hometown, and I workedwith Bruce Springsteen before he was famous,
in Fleetwood, Mac before they werefamous. But I also worked with
Kiss before they were famous. SoI backstage, I was hanging out with
Geene Simmons. In nineteen seventy three, briefly. Okay, a few years
ago I saw him again. Idid a press conference. He was there

(24:42):
and I said, hey, Geen, my name is Dan. You and
I met in nineteen seventy three,and he goes, don't you mean eighteen
seventy three? Because he was likeold and tired of grubby, had just
gotten off a plane from Japan.Don't you mean eighteen seventy three. Oh
that's so funny. Yeah, yeah, it was funny. He remembered the

(25:03):
didn't remember me, but he rememberedthe circumstances when we met. Race.
Can we do the next one please? Number eleven. So that's you with
Kendra and Hank Basket. Is thathis name? Yes? I think so.
That was her husband right where.They're now divorced, and I did
a reality show with them, hopingthat they could fall back in love with

(25:29):
each other. But the fact thathe was unfaithful to her was really the
deal breaker, and she never forgavehim for that. You know, some
couples can forgive and others cannot,right right. I remember when this aired.
You and I were talking about thisat the time, and she was
one of you Heffner's girlfriends. Atone point she was one of the girls

(25:49):
next door. I think right,yes, And she had Hugh Hafna over
to her house and she was tellingme how he had to have all his
potato chips. Oh, I heardthat all of them could be broken.
Is that true? Yeah, that'strue. I just saw a documentary literally
two nights ago. That is true. Ava. We have to take a
break, We have to pay somebills around a couple of commercials raised by

(26:11):
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tween between between and We're back livefrom Hollywood. It's paranormal tonight. I'm

(31:22):
Dan Harari. Just a quick thing. This past weekend at the Lax Hilton
was the Conscious Life Expo. Iwas there over the weekend and I met
Whitley Strieber, who gave a fantastictalk about his extraterrestrial experiences and he showed
some videos and still photos that werereally mind boggling, and for those of

(31:45):
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and I became friendly the other daywhen I met him for the first time.
And I met Linda Moulton Howe theother day as well, lovely lady,
and she was at the expo speakingon a panel with my good friend
Stephen Bassett and Nick Pope and DannySheehan, who I just happened to get

(32:07):
a chance to meet finally as well. They were all members of the Hollywood
Disclosure Alliance, which Steve Bassett andI launched a few months ago. And
my daughter, I know, islistening and watching Angelie. She's helping us
out in every possible way with themarketing and promotions. So check out Hollywood
Disclosure Alliance dot org. We havefantastic members on that organization. Now let's

(32:30):
go back to my dear friend,doctor Ava Cadell. Let's bring her back
in and there she is, thereshe is, and Angelie says, woo,
there she is. Okay, I'ma good father. I did you
know, I really am. Ihad a wonderful father. If I was
very close to my dad, andmy brothers and I we were very very

(32:52):
close to our father, and weall the three of us, my two
brothers, we are very good fathers. You know, really came down.
It was handed down. Okay,back to you. You've written eleven books,
including your most famous one, Ibelieve is Neurolivology, endorsed by doctor
John Gray, who wrote Men Orfrom Mars, Women Are from Venus,

(33:15):
very famous book, what is Neuroleivology? And before you answer race slide number
twelve, please there, I amhappy. I am. That might be
the best picture of you I've everseen. Well, I was very happy.

(33:36):
I came up with the term neurolivologyby blending certain aspects of neuroscience with
the science of love. And whatI did was I wrote about practical exercises
that you could do to heighten intimacyand to grow your brain cells at the

(33:57):
same time, because as we allknow that, you know, positive emotions
have the power to reprogram circuits inyour brain and release these wonderful, pleasurable
hormones so that you can overcome,you know, distractions that keep you from
that in love feeling with your partner, and so that you can understand the

(34:23):
why, the when, and thehow your love evolves. Because it really
is essential to create to create amindful bond. Everybody's using the word mindfulness,
but when two people are mindful together, that really really connects something called

(34:47):
mirror neurons in our brains and itallows us to understand our partner's intentions and
our feelings. Oh there, Iam ah, that's a lovely picture.
That's Mary Hannah. She's a dearfriend of yours, fabulous host. I
did her radio show for her,and then we decided to promote each other's

(35:12):
books. And she's a she's sucha good host, as are you very
good I know if she still hasa radio show. But you know,
she's also very famous for having anincredible memory. She could remember every date,
every name, every detail of herlife. It's very it's very what

(35:36):
she has. I don't remember thename, but you could say Mary Lou
September fourth, nineteen eighty three.She'll tell you what day, the week,
it was, where she was,what she was wearing, what she
was doing. It. It's Ithink there's seven people on the planet Earth
that have it. It's it's calledan identic memory. Identic. Thank you,

(35:57):
Race, identic identic. You spelledthat memory. Yeah. Yeah,
she's one of the very two peoplethat has that. But I always wanted
to meet her. But that's alovely photo. Well, you have to
read her book. It's great totalmemory. Yeah, it gives you tips
on how to remember. Yeah,that's a really great photo. Okay,

(36:22):
Race, next one, please fourteen. Oh look at that back in twenty
seventeen. Ever, it was sevenyears ago already. You and I worked
with doctor Ruth together at the SexualHealth Expo downtown LA. I looked it
up. She's ninety five. She'sninety five, God bless her still alive.
Wow. Well, I was veryexcited to meet doctor Ruth, who

(36:45):
was the original pioneer expert, andthanks to you, I was able to
give her a Lifetime Achievement award.Right, that's right, I mean she
she is wold. But you know, we're talking about healing, and I

(37:07):
think what makes a really good healeris somebody who has suffered and healed themselves
so they can heal others. Andeven a good therapist is somebody who can
relate to their clients suffering. SoI think we again, we need to

(37:30):
basically learn and teach what's most importantfor our own growth. And I think
you know me so well. Youknow, you know that I've suffered from
abuse, assault, toxic relationships,disease and loss, all that stuff.
And you know, my healing journeybegan as a teenager when I had to

(37:53):
break the habit of my old selfdestructive ways to reen vent myself in a
new, healthy, happy way.And I think my number one advice for
healing to anybody listening is to focusfirst and foremost on self care as a

(38:19):
form of self love, which willresult in more confidence and self value and
happiness and peace of mind. Youcannot buy peace of mind, so you
know, forgiving yourself, for makinghorrible mistakes, forgiving others that have hurt
you. It's not easy, butit can be done, will essentially give

(38:42):
you that peace of mind. You'renot going to keep, you know,
negative thoughts in your mind that canresult in pain and disease and all kinds
of toxic energy. So that's myvice to anybody who's listening. That is
very good care. What did youdo for yourself today? Dan? That

(39:06):
was about self care. I walkedfive miles, listen to my rock and
roll music on my little iPod.And when I walk five miles it takes
it about under two hours. Butit's for me. It's meditation, and
I try to do it every otherday. And I come up with my
I came up with books that way, I came up with companies that way.

(39:30):
I came up with relationships that Imanifest, but I honestly do.
When I walk my five miles,I manifest. It just happens. So
that's what I did today. That'swonderful. You know that manifesting is an
advanced form of meditating, so youare already an advanced human. I don't

(39:52):
know. I think I'm an idiotsurvived but mostly an idiot. That's what
I think I have. Well,you're you're involved with online Summit this week
as we speak right with doctor HelenFisher and Mary Anne Williamson. And how
is that going for you? It'sgood, it's good. My session is
actually going to be on tomorrow ateleventh thirty in the morning, Friday eleven

(40:14):
thirty, and I also got tointerview some of the incredible healers. And
it's a phenomenal idea this summit tojust get all of these healers together to
help not only individuals but also professionalcoaches and healers and helpers. So I

(40:36):
think it's fantastic. And it's righton the Valentine's Day week, so it's
sort of synonymous with love. Imean, it kind of goes together.
You know, we're always going tomake mistakes as humans, and without mistakes,
we can't forgive each other. Andwithout forgiveness, we can't love each
other, and we have to healand all that stuff. It's very it's

(40:59):
a combination of I guess, spiritualityand also pragmatic techniques that everybody can understand,
because for some people it might betoo woohoo, but for others you
have to give them actual examples.Like you said, walking for you is

(41:23):
your meditation, your way of manifesting. For me, it's water. Even
when I take a shower, Ivisualize any negative energy being washed away,
and then all the clean water issurrounding me with new thoughts and new manifestations

(41:43):
and positivity and light and love.So there's so many ways, and everybody's
different. You know. I haveanimals at the retreat because I believe in
pet therapy. Sometimes it's easier totalk to a goat than to your spell
or the last five women I've dated. There you go. These goats are

(42:06):
so cute and lovable. I'll beright over all right, race number fifteen,
Please slide fifteen. There we go. Abay. So, two years
ago, twenty twenty two, youacquired this beautiful property not far from Santa
Barbara, and you named it,obviously, the Loveology Retreat, which is
the perfect name for that location.What is the Lovology Retreat and what would

(42:30):
you like people to know about it? So it's a spiritual property which was
called the Pine Mountain Buddhist Temple forthe past twenty three years actually, and
it was known for zen meditation,and the residents were Buddhist monks who made
this place really a labor of loveby opening their home for Buddhist teachings and

(42:54):
meditation. So I really didn't wantto change anything, and as I met
them, I felt this immediate sortof mind, body soul connection. And
then when they shared their desire tomove to a smaller place, I knew
that this magnificent place would be aperfect retreat for me. But I invite

(43:17):
people to bring their groups and toyou know, experience this incredible place surrounded
by Buddhas and crystals, and reallyexperienced nature in all its glory. Whether
it's whether you're going to bring ameditation group or a yoga group, or

(43:39):
we have disc golf for some teamsports, weddings I love having weddings here,
or even boot camps. It doesoffer beautiful hiking trails. I have
accommodations with houses, caravans, andvents, and we have a pool,

(44:02):
a hot tub, a fire pit, indoor funhouse with games for the whole
family, outdoor kids playground, anda magnificent eleven foot high stupor for stargazing.
So at the top of the stupor, can you see there's a spire

(44:25):
which symbolizes a line through the Earthcenter around which the universe is thought to
revolve. But I have read recentlythat it could be a wormhole that aliens
used to travel to different dimensions.And by the way, I think you

(44:47):
turned me onto this article. InIndia, where thousands of years ago they
called them vimanas, called stupors vermonas, and it's believed that stupas were designed
and built as towers for UFOs.Exactly correct, that's right, that's right

(45:07):
there. Vermana was a bell shapedufo that the Indians saw thousands of years
ago, and a stupa, Ibelieve, according to ufology, is a
tribute to the alien ancestors who perhapsgave them medicine and farming and agriculture and
all these things. It's it's atribute to the ancestors. But your Vermana

(45:31):
avis is probably the nicest one inCalifornia, I would imagine. Well,
and you know, we just repaintedit gold. And so you are welcome
to come and visit. Just goto love Ology Retreat dot com. And
you don't have to even bring agroup. You can just come with you
know, a friend or a familyor any you know, any combination of

(45:53):
people and choose where you want tostay. And you're really enjoy the stargazing
and seeing the galaxy, and whoknows, maybe we will see a UFO
together. You never know, wecan manifest it, right, I hope.
Yeah, that would be wonderful.I've told you when you start to
see UFOs, you've got to makesure I'm the first phone call, because

(46:15):
I know you will be the firstto know. I know a lot of
people. What goes on inside isstupid. Away do people meditate or contemplate
their navels and their what do theydo inside there? Well? Inside,
Well, there's a golden Buddha insideand what it has four corners and it's

(46:36):
used for walking meditations. You walkaround the stupor clockwise and you say you're
mantras, you say your positive mantrasso that the energy of the stupor can
basically cleanse your mind and your body. And of course I have a lot
of Tibetan prayer flags everywhere which alsobring in the positive energy and the vibration

(47:04):
and the frequency that you want tobecome enlightened. It's all about coming here
to be enlightened. That's wonderful,that's really great. Yeah, I think
that's so cool. Okay, Sojust jumping a little bit you know,
my show is called Paranormal Tonight.And this next question I want to ask

(47:24):
you and you and I have neverever discussed this, but because I have
many and I have a book comingout in May called My Paranormal Life,
But have you ever had any paranormalnot UFOs or aliens, but paranormal ghosts,
voices, visions, dreams that cametrue, any kind of things like
that I have? And it's truewe never ever discussed this. But after

(47:47):
my husband Peter died, I cleanseda home with sage walking around blowing out
the flames so that only embers remained, and I said, mantra, you
know, please cleanse the energy inmy home that no longer serves me.
And that night I was woken upby a large orange entity that I saw

(48:15):
on Peter's closet door, which wasvery scary and I knew it was not
Peter, but I felt like thestage had released a huge entity with this
orange orb. And as you knowthe meaning of orb colors varies, but

(48:37):
orange is for healing, energy,comfort, motivation, hope, strength,
and courage. So I was veryhappy with my experience. What it was
it an oval? Was it aroundlight a beam of light as it was

(48:58):
a man. It was a verylarge It looked like a man, you
know, just the outside of aof a and it might not. It
just looked very masculine, and yeah, it was. It was pretty scary.
And it happened the day after hedied. Perhaps that was the spirit
that took him into, you know, off into heaven. You know,

(49:20):
that might have been his guardian orhis accompanying spirit that took him off.
I never thought of it that way, but you know, I always enjoyed
books like Seth Speaks, which II I love the messages, the consciousness,
just the the information that I readin those books. So I'm I'm

(49:44):
a big fan of quantum physics,and I'm always wanting to learn and then
share my knowledge with others. SoI'm very open to what you do and
what you believe in as well.Well. You will be the first you,
my mother and my daughter will getthe first copies of my paranormal life.
Good, but I think you'll you'llread that, and you'll. As

(50:07):
I'm getting older, I'm remembering moreand more things. A lot of certainly
during childhood, but a lot ofremarkable things have happened to me in the
course of my life anyway, Sospeak speaking of aliens and UFOs, you
know, I'm a nut with thatstuff. Have you thought about the possibility
of extraterrestrial life visiting Earth? Andthe second part of that question is if

(50:30):
an alien knocked on your on yourdoor of your office right now, and
you opened that it was an alien, what would you say and what and
what would you do? So Ithink that it's arrogant to believe that we
are the only life on Earth inthe whole galaxy. And so my question
is how can we recognize aliens?To me, that's really fascinating. And

(50:57):
uh yeah, if an alien wereto knock on my door, I think
the first thing I would ask isif I could take a photo with them
as evidence you know that I cameface to face with an alien, and
then I would send it to you. And then the second question I would
ask is are you hungry? Ilove feeding people, and I would probably

(51:20):
feed the alien chocolate. That's assumingthat they ate human food. But this
is true, this is very true. That's very sweet. Well, you
know if you sent me the photoand I would get it out and everyone
would say, oh, it's photoshop. You know, it's visual effects.
It's not real, but not thereal believers. They wouldn't, they'd believe

(51:42):
it. That's a problem because oftoday's digital technology, so many photos and
so many videos can be hoaxed.And that's a whole big problem in euphology
that I've been dealing with that witha lot of my members as well.
Well, then you know what weneed. We need people to be there,
We need more evidence. Exactly well, exactly right. That's what my

(52:05):
Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, the board ofdirectors that we have meetings and we talk
about that. And I just signedyesterday a client. He owns one hundred
and fifty acre ranch in New Mexico. It's highly active with UFOs every night
for seven years. He has onethousand no he has one terabyte of data
of photos and videos. His partneris from NASA and the FBI. And

(52:32):
I'm going to probably be going outto this ranch in the next week or
two to investigate this real property.It's exciting and you're going to go with
the camera crew. I'm going togo with my partner, Stephen Bassett,
who is one of the top disclosureadvocates in Washington, d C. We're
going to go together and check itout. If it's legit and we feel

(52:52):
that it's real, we're going toannounce it to the world at the UFO
convention in June called Contact in theDesert, which I'm highly involved with as
well. It's in Palm Springs.How exciting. There's a lot happening in
this area. I have a cutelittle surprise for you, raced number eighteen.
Please the last light. Okay,look at the beautiful family. Angelie

(53:15):
is just gorgeous. How did youmake such a beautiful daughter? I you
know, I'm not sure I haveher father quite frankly, you know,
I really am not running. Andthere I was doing something for I think
it was a buzz Feed or somethinglike that. Yes, that's right,

(53:35):
Angelia, and I came to visityou on the set at BuzzFeed. It
was on Sunset Boulevard. I don'tremember what show it was. You were
interviewed for a while, and thenthe three of us had dinner at Mussou
and Frank restaurant. Oh lovely,But you know what, I can't get
into that dress anymore. Neither canI. So it's bumma. I mean,

(53:57):
I mean, you know, ifI told someone, hey, here's
here's my wife and here's my daughter, people would say, Dan, how
did you pull that off? Imean, oh yeah, it could be
a whole family. I never thoughtof that. Look at that isn't that
great? I mean, that's awonderful photo. My daughter mom, Well,
I could be her father. Asfar as I know, I am.
And if I'm not, I've spenta lot of money on the wrong

(54:19):
person. But anyway, as faras I know, I am. So
that's my daughter Aujulie and you andI a couple of years ago. Lovely
photo. And you know there's onlya few photos of you and I together.
That's one. That's a very rarephoto. That beautiful. I love
it. It's great. We canraise take that one down. We have
about two more minutes. We couldtalk a little about your late husband,

(54:42):
Peter, who I met once ortwice briefly. I never got to know
him really, But why don't youtell our audience who he was, and
tell and talk a little bit aboutthe book about it that he wrote that's
coming out this year. So,Peter kan Act was a prominent Hollywood attorney
with his own practice on Sunset Stripin La and I encouraged him to write

(55:04):
his memoirs before he passed away.So I am very excited about his book
coming out this spring. And thetitle is Blood and Justice on the Sunset
Strip, The life of Hollywood criminaldefense attorney Peter connect And he did represent
many many Hollywood and music celebrities includingsly Stone, David Crosby, Gary Busey,

(55:30):
Dennis Harper, Peter Fonder, IkeTurner, Ryan O'Neil, Robert Blake,
Oh my gosh, Charles Bronson,Robert Downey, Junior, Andy Garcia,
John Barrymore, and even Madam HeidiFlice. Really I never do.

(55:52):
That's really funny. Yeah, Iwish, I wish I had had a
chance to get to know him more. He seemed like a really cool guy.
And I know you guys were verytight and you're very much in love.
I'm sorry that he passed, butI you know, I think his
spirit is in you and with you, and whenever you talk about him,
your face lights up. It's reallysweet. But you know, you and

(56:12):
I work together to get that publishingdeal. It's going to be out on
bear mannor Media something. Yeah,So what's that comes out? We'll have
to promote it in pr and doall those fun things together well. And
my next reinvention will include working withwriters and producers and on turning Peter's book
into a script, right absolutely,And I'm that's what I'm doing. I'm

(56:32):
doing that with after they came.I'm working on that as well. My
mother. My mother goes, whenwhere's the Danny, where's the movie?
Where's the movie? I go,Ma, you're you're almost ninety. I
don't know what's going to go first? You were the movie? I'm not.
Oh no, she'll stay. She'llstay just for the movie. I'm
sure that she's too stubborn to pass. I think said anyway, Eva,

(56:54):
I love you. You're one ofmy best friends. How can people reach
you, Well, they can reachme at Avacadell dot com or Doctorava Kadell
on Instagram. Facebook. Now I'mAvahila because somebody sole my profile and my
personal Facebook, so I have tocome up with a name, And Avahila

(57:17):
is my new Facebook name. That'sa good name. Yeah you have,
that's great. Well, thank youso much for being on Paranormal tonight.
Wonderful show. Really great and we'llget to we'll have lunch for dinner soon
and then for everyone out there,next week, I have Kevin kouchaever.
He's a Emmy Award winning Hollywood visualeffects artist. He's done a lot of

(57:39):
top movies and TV shows. Heworked on Return of the Jedi, for
example. One of my best friends, Kevin Kuchaver Next week for me,
danharrariauthor dot com. Danharrariauthor dot comis my books, my bio, my
photos, and my contact. Ifyou're interested in UFOs and joining the Hollywood

(58:00):
Disclosure Alliance, check out Hollywood Disclosurealliancedot org. And we are going to
be launching next week a donations pageon Hollywood Disclosure Alliance because we are going
to seek We're a nonprofit five ohone C three, and we will be
seeking donations to advance the cause ofdisclosure in the media. Thank you Race,

(58:21):
my producer, my brother Race,and thank you everyone for joining us
tonight at Paranormal Tonight. We'll seeyou next week. Have a good week,
and look up in the sky.Don't always look down at your phones.
Look up in the sky. There'sa lot going on up there these
days. I'm Dan Harari. Seeyou next week. Thank you very much.
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