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June 1, 2024 60 mins
On this edition of Live from Hollywood…It’s Paranormal Tonight! host Dan Harary will interview renowned Author and Biblical Scholar Ella LeBain. Ella has been studying the relationship between Gods, Angels, ETs, Aliens and UFOs for over 40 years, and has shared her remarkable research through her six-book series, Who’s Who In The Cosmic Zoo? A regular lecturer at UFO and Sci-Fi conventions, Ella is also a Member of MUFON and a Founding Member of the newly launched Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.

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If you don't want, if youdon't want to, let it be.
If you can't set yourself breathe,take your bergen another place and time be
a soma to bad. You knowfor so much? Did you do for

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so bad? But you don't Personfrom Hollywood, It's very normal ten nights.

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I'm Mark Summers and now here's yourhost, Jan Hoorrari. There I
am, I'm not Ella Labaine,I'm Dan Hurrari. Hello, everybody,
Welcome back. It's another week,another Thursday Night, Live from Hollywood.
It's paranormal tonight. Thank you guysfor watching tonight. We have a very

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special guest, a friend of mine, and just real quick, if you're
interested in UFOs, aliens and allthings disclosure reminder, a month from now
is Contact in the Desert, Contactin the dot Com. Don't please,
don't forget to get your tickets.They're going fast. We have seventy three

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speakers this year. It's going tobe the biggest UFO conference in the history.
It's at the Renaissance Hotel in IndianWells, California, Beautiful Resort.
I will be there presenting the HollywoodDisclosure Alliance Panel and I will be doing
a lecture about my father and thehistory of my book called After They Came,

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and all my friends will be there, Richard Dolan, Nick Pope,
Steve Bassett, Paul Heinik. It'sgoing to be a who's who, George
Nori, It's going to be CarolynCorey. It's going to be a wonderful
event. Try to get out there. I'd love to meet you there.
Okay, So one year ago,exactly a year ago at UFO con in
San Francisco, I met my guesttonight and I'm going to read her little

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bio and then we're going to bringher in. A native of New York
City, Ella Labine was educated inIsrael within a department of the Ben Gurion
University. While there, she learnedto read and write Hebrew fluently and was
educated in Hebrew linguistics, which isthe roots of words. This information would

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later help her to delineate the castof characters in the Hebrew Bible and how
those beings are relevant to today's situationand the end times prophecies. After her
time in Israel, Ella returned toNew York City, earned an astronomy degree
from the Hayden Planetarium, and thenspent two years as a social worker assisting

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missionaries in South Africa. Ella's closeencounters with extraterrestrial beings began during her time
in Israel in nineteen seventy nine andinspired her to dig deeper into what has
since become a forty plus year journeyto research and discover the truth about UFOs

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aliens ET's gods and Amias Joels.Ella has experienced multiple supernatural close encounters with
a variety of interdimensional beings. Anear death experience led her meet to meet
one such bean, whose name wasYeshia. This resulted in her download of
the material she would eventually publish inher six part book series called Who's Who

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in the Cosmic Zoo, which Ihighly recommend. A Zechariah Sitchen protege Ella
excuse me. Ella interviewed the famedauthor in nineteen ninety five and then became
a student in his International Bible studygroup. Ella lives with her husband and
daughter near Denver, Colorado and Race. Please let's bring into one wonderful,

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talented and beautiful little blonde friend,Ella Labay And there she is, Hi
Ella Lebay, Hi Dan Hi nice? You like you? Did you like
your intro. Did I do okay? You did perfect? Thank you good.
I'm very very appreciate, of course. Now I don't know if race
has this race? Do you havethe one and only picture I emailed you

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from my end? There we go. Ah, this is when I met
Ella La bain is exactly a yearago in March San Francisco UFO con and
there we are sharing our stories andour books with each other. And you
know, you and I met thereand we just kind of became friends on
the spot and we've been friends eversince. It's very nice. Yes,

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it was a lot of fun,and I feel like I've known you forever.
It's you know, it's the EastCoast, you know, it's the
East. I think your husband,either your husband or my brother took that
picture. Oh yeah, yeah,I think it was yours. Yeah it
was. It was one of them. I really remember. All right,
So let's rock and roll here,Ella. You know, as you know,

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last year, I with Stephen Bassett, I created the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance,
which essentially it's a very unique group. We have about one hundred and
fifty members now and we're bringing togetherUFO researchers and experiencers and disclosure advocates and
we're joining them with Hollywood producers,directors, writers and performers. And it

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never happened before. It was anidea I had a year ago with Steven
Bassett and really caught on. Andthe bottom line is, you know,
Hollywood and the entertainment industry and moviesand TV shows have a responsibility those of
us like you and me and Stephenwho are working in the disclosure movement.
Hollywood really has a what's the worda responsibility, or they should have a

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responsibility to present real stories from realpeople, about real experiences. You know,
I mean you've had them. I'vehad them. Many of our friends
have had real experiences. Indeed,so having said that, I know during
your lectures at Sci Fi cant sincein UFO conventions most of the last ten
years, which you call the truthis stranger than which of course is absolutely

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true. You know, you talkabout the real Star Wars, you talk
about the real Star Trek. Wetalked about how a J twelve decided in
the fifties to put parts of thetruth about the alien UFO phenomenon into films
and TV shows, which I didn'tknow until I met you. So talk

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to us a little bit. What'sthe difference between hard and top disclosure?
And why is that relevant? Filmand TV? And you know which shows
and movies should we be watching?And where is this all going with films
and TVs? Take it away?Hell all of it? Well, thank
you for having me. And thoseare really great questions. I think if
I can go to my slide show, I could probably answer it in pictures.

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But where are they going? Ithink they they're still on track to
where uh everything I'm just gonna flipthrough. Uh, this is I used
to be a paralegal. I connectdots. So this is something you and
I talked about about the morphogenetic fieldand and and how it's like a tree

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and how people you know, it'savailable. It's the super subconscious mind,
you know, the mind of Godand all of us are are hooked in,
are into this this big tree oflife. And and you know,
not everybody, uh you know,takes the fruit, eats the fruit,
processes it and makes something of it. But it's available to all. And

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I think that that you know,in connecting the dot to what you've created
with Hollywood disclosure lines and what I'vebeen doing, you know, I used
to write these reviews in these newslettersback in the nineties called the Electric Shadows,
and I was seeing the truth aboutUFOs and ET's and aliens and movies.

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So I started, you know,it became a thing. And then
and then ten years ago I starteddoing these sci fi conferences and I was
like the only non fiction author inthis in this author alley of all sci
fi fantasy writers and novelists, andI'm you know, I'm I'm a researcher.

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And when I told them, Isaid, you know, and especially
the Star Trek writers, I said, you know, this is true.
And I would have people come upto me and say, I prefer the
fantasy. So I thought that wasa very interesting social experiment and also sort
of like a gauge of where thepublic is at and and you know,

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like why the Galactic Federation doesn't wantto tell us or come out with hard
disclosure just yet. So an answerto your question, the difference between hard
disclosure and soft disclosure is is thathard disclosure has to come from some official
government person, you know, whetherit's the President or or someone else in

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the White House or you know,the military. That would be hard disclosure.
You know, all the aliens arehere, they're on the White House
lawn. You know, something tothat effect. Soft disclosure comes through film
and TV. And you know,we've been living through the era of disclosure,
which pretty much began in twenty seventeen. And I'm showing this Bob Lazar

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because he told us in nineteen eightynine all the stuff that was you know,
confirmed and vindicated. Last year duringthe hearings with David Grutt put a
pass this government that a cosmic watergatehas been underway for the last you know,
twenty five years. And at thesame time, I don't think it's

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I think as we're growing up orfrom the government's point of view, I
think we've you know, we've beenadults for hundreds of years. But from
the government's point of view, we'restill growing up. And eventually they might
want to tell us something about whatthey've discovered over the decades. Well that
was said in nineteen seventy seven,isn't that interesting? And you know,

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Spielberg has already put out to youknow, some major films, some of
one of you know, third CloseEncounters of the Third Time it was based
on a documentary. E t wasalso based on some true pieces, not
that it was true was fictionalized,but E. E. T represented EB,
which was extraterrestrial biological entity, whichwas one of the aliens that were

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recovered in one of the crashes,and there have been many crashes. So
I'm basically telling people, don't putall your eggs in one basket, meaning
you know, don't you know,wait with baited breath for the US government
to come out and spill the beansand tell us everything they know about the
alien presence and about what they knowabout UFOs. It's so complex, it's

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so complicated, and I personally don'tbelieve that's ever going to happen one hundred
percent for multiple reasons. However,back in the fifties MJ twelve you know,
they were these twelve admiral generals incharge of the Navy, and they
basically, you know, got togetherand said, how can we control the

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information without actually going into hard disclosurebecause they were testing the public in multiple
ways, and they saw that thepublic wasn't ready and they didn't want to
create hysteria and panic, and theywanted to keep the status quo, but
they knew that they had to preparethe public you know, it was the

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responsible thing to do. So theyhad to give the concepts to you know,
different directors and producers and screenwriters toput in TV and film, and
and this way when when you know, the aliens show up, when the
UFOs show up, which they're happening, you know, pretty regularly lately,

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we're getting reports all over the placethat people will have something to relate to.
And I can't tell you how manytimes we see stuff in the air
and I'm going to show you thatthat people go, oh, that's just
like in Star Wars, or that'sjust like you know, the USS Enterprise
and Star Trek or and they relateto these uh to our you know,

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popular culture. So this is youknow, what I'm going to unpack for
you in the second segment. Andand how the the cover up of Nibiru
and the UFO cover up based onthe US government was intricately connected and becaus
is really one and the same.And when you unravel one kind of like

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like pulling a thread out of asweater, the whole thing is going to
come up. Both pieces are goingto come apart. But because the Nibaru
piece has been so suppressed for solong, most people don't even look at
it, which is why I haveit illustrated here, Like you know,
the pink elephant in the living room. They know, but he's talking about
So you know, this picture allthe way on the bottom left, I

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took myself. I saw it withmy own two eyes, so it's not
a lens flare or camera a Nominally, there was another object next to our
sun in January of twenty twenty,and so people ask, well, you
know, if this is true,why wasn't it Why isn't it all over

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the media. Well, to befair, the media has touched upon this
over the years. They have to, but it's buried, it's hidden,
it's not like the top story,so people aren't really paying attention to it.
So just to kind of like givepeople a rundown of what happened,
was that it was during nineteen Itwas nineteen eighty three. So this image

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on the top right, in thepurple with the green, that was the
first image that NASA brought back fromwhat they called IRIS, which was this
probe, the Interface Region Imaging Spectrographthat they gave they showed to President Ronald
Reagan, and that was their evidencethat this planet Nabiu, which is a

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word that comes from the Samerian languagethat we only know because of Zachariah sichen
they weren't calling it, you know, nabiro. They were calling it planet
X. And it also has othernames from other cultures or cobalis from Greek
and you know, the red dragonfrom a China, et cetera. So
when he saw that, he wrotean executive order that basically became law and

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it went under national security. Andyou know, presidents are on a need
to know basis, so every presidentjust pretty much rolls over these eos and
they don't always change them. Solong story short, of course, as
everybody knows, he dubbed the starWars program, which was the Strategic Defense
initiative essentially putting weapons in space.And this became known as Solar Warden or

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the Secret Space Program. And youknow him and Thatcher and Gorbachev, they
all where this trio got together.They shared the photo. They realized what
was happening, that the planet wasgoing to go through climate changes and global
warming, and that's when they beganthis program to try to retard it,

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to change to stop the warming too. And you know, so they came
up with all kinds of technology tocloud seed, and I'm going to show
you even more hopefully we get to. But so you know, what we
know so far is that the UFOsthat we're seeing in space is a combination

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of our own secret space program that'sbeen advanced and perpetuated for the past seven
since World War Two. And alsothere are spaceships around our Sun. So
what I'm showing here is a hugeplanet that keeps showing up around ours and

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there's several of them. So wegrew up thinking we only had one sun,
one star. But you know,the norm in the universe is that
most stars are binary, if nottrinary, and we do have a binary
twin which we call Nemesis. AndNemesis is a brown dwarf star that is

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dead, so that means it's notradiating. It is, but it's but
it can reflect. So just likeour Sun illuminates Venus and all the other
planets that we see around the Sun, and that they look like big bright
star. Okay, when Nemesis comesaround the Sun, which it does every
few thousand years, it looks liketwo suns. And so Nemesis is the

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star. But around Nemesis are sevenplanets. Now, back in twenty seventeen,
one of the biggest card disclosures wasa hard disclosure, was they came
out and they said, we havediscovered a brown dwarf star with seven Earth
sized planets, and it's just like, you know, forty light years away
from us. And they called itthey named it after their telescope. Okay,

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they didn't name it Nemesis and Nabiuand what the ancients called it.
They just created a new name forit. And we see that with the
system through the different cultures. Sothis is a normal thing, and I
unpackle that in my books, sopeople can connect those dots, but I'm
basically saying it's almost one and thesame. Okay, they called a Trappist

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one, which was after their telescope. So this is just to show you
how many space telescopes we have.And this is just the tip of the
iceberg. I mean, I'm notshowing every single one. There's a ton
of space tech up there, andwe Americans are not the only ones that

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have tech up there that is focusedon the Sun. Okay, So the
Japanese have you know, SA EuropeanSpace Agency, and this is these are
recent videos of something moving across theSun. And this was taken the one
on the right on Earth through aspace through a regular telescope, not a

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space telescope. And the one onthe bottom is show the two sons and
we know that they're not lens flaresbecause the photographers saw them and then they
photographed. So you know, thisis ancient. There's nothing, you know,
more ancient than the truth. There'snothing new under the sun, you
know, as we grew up believing. And this is written in stone.

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I mean, this is the ancienton the left, the ancient Sumerian caneiform.
These are in the Museums, LondonMuseum, you can see it.
And so you know, I kindof connect these dots to go back and
forth into the past because the pasttells us the present, which is,

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you know, the past's future.And what we see here was a battle
between different gods over our space,over our sphere that we live on the
Earth, and the Solar system itselfand even this galaxy. And these are
things that you know I've unpacked.This is a UH the intro to UH

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season three Resident Alien. And oneof the reasons that I'm sharing this is
again this truth is stranger than fiction. And I'm not here to tell you
about my story, but this waswhat I went through. So what they're
depicting here, And and Chris Sheridan, who does the scripts, who I

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have to say, he does hishomework. He his research is very thorough.
And this is this, this isa typical experience that women have.
And they showed this at the verybeginning. And this was you know,
Kate basically, you know, realizingthat she's been abducted and used as an

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incubator uh to for the hybrid isa alien hybridization program, and and that
they stole her baby. And that'sall part of the script there. So
this was the that the reason thatI'm dovetailing into it is because when I
wrote my first book, which cameout in twenty twelve, that was what

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the cover was about was you know, it's the clouds of the Earth,
but it's really the woman who isgetting implanted by the alien to create hybrids.
And this is all this is becomingcommon now. It's not you know,
like we were all, oh,you know, no one's going to
you know, it's such an innertrauma that many of us have gone through

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and what's so wonderful is to haveTV shows like you know, Resident Alien
and others that are doing it.Now. This is just to show that
My story was on UFO Witness Seasontwo, episode five, and you know,
let's get straight into this. Youknow, as I was saying earlier

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MJ twelve, they sat around andthey thought, well, we have to
you know, put the information andgive it to the screenwriters. And you
know, in recently, I wasborn in this in sixty one, so
I was a child in nineteen sixtythree. So I've been rewatching some of
these early sixty shows and it blowsmy mind, Like I dream a Genie

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came out in nineteen sixty three,you know, they and that was before
they went to the Moon, andit was all about the secret space program,
their intentions to go to the Moon, their intentions to go to Mars,
their intentions to create secret spacecraft thatthey were hiding from the public,
and also their interactions with extra dimensionals. And you know, Star Trek is

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another one. You know, startedout as Space Cowboys. Lucille Bull was
really the main producer behind it,Desilu Productions, and turned it into what
became you know this this ongoing seriesand sixty eight different technologies in the original

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Star Trek is now our reality,so they can't really call it science fiction.
It's really kind of more future science. And you know when I worked
in the sci fi conferences with onthe Starfest panels, uh, they always
had the scientists that helped them writethe script to make everything that they put
forward plausible. So so we knowthat that that that is part of reality.

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My favorite Martian another kind of prophetic. Uh. And that was started
even you know, the late fiftiesand the early sixties. And yeah,
we're on Mars now, so that'snot so you know, far fetched anymore.
So you know, we're seeing everygeneration has an alien series, and
we also see Stargates. Now weknow that this is a based on on

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on a on some truth. Ella, Ella, can we can we pause
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half of our show this evening livefrom Hollywood. It's paranormal tonight. I
am Dan Harari race my brother.Let's bring back in Ella Labine. There
she is once again, my littleI dream of Jeanie hairdo style. Hi
Dan, I love that hair do. It's really great. So we were
talking about stargates. Do you wantto pick it up from there? Oh?
Sure, yeah, just you know, to connect the dot to the

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reality if you can see the screen. You know. This was back in
twenty twelve they came out and thiswas a disclosure. NASA discovered portals in
space between the Earth and the Sun. But one thing that I have published
in my books is that the Bibletalks about portals. And this is how

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what I call frequent flyers Elijah andEno and Yeshua, who is also called
Jesus moved around the planet so quickly. And I proved this through the linguistics,
particularly the story about Elijah and howhe went really, really really fast
and to Jezirel got ahead of Ahabshowed up dry as a bone. Ahab

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is like gone through the mud andthe thunderstorms. How did he get there
so fast? Short answer, hewent through a portal. So this was
back in nineteen ninety five. Ithought if I stayed up all night,
I could stop getting abducted. Howdid that work out for you? Not
very well, because they can abductyou any time of day. And then

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I went to sleep in the morning, and I still had experiences, so
so much for that experiment. ButI would stay up and watch, you
know, the night they call breaknight, and watch the dawn. And
there's a time of night right beforeyou know, when everything starts to change
and you can see. And Isaw this and I wrote it down,
and I had never seen anything likethis myself, but it was a look

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like a honeycomb over the sky.And I wrote it down because I thought,
no one's gonna believe me unless Iand that's my sketch on the left.
Then later on, I start seeingthis in Marvel movies, Guardians of
the Galaxy, Captain Marvel, theMarvels, and now it's in every single

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Marvel movie. Every time they comeand go, they go through these portals
and they show this honeycomb. Soyou know, I'm going to go through
this just a little quickly. Butyou know, one of my teachings is
to teach and cultivate discernment because we'reliving in an age of deception. And

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it's one thing to be street smart, it's another thing to be book smart.
But we have to learn to bespirit smart, which is the inner
technology. You know, you andI come from New York and New Jersey.
We're born with that inner BS barometerthat would be discernment. So you
know, not everyone is who theyseem to be. And we know,

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you know again through the truth isstranger than fiction. Back in the eighties,
there was that series V and theywere telling us something and that,
and they got it. They haveit really down that the reptilians are able
to shape shift into human bodies.So people have to beware that not everything

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that shines and looks good and youknow, is who they think they are.
People have to use different types ofdiscernment to understand who and what they're
dealing with. I get caught inbetween these controversies between the New Age community

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and the Christian fringe, you know, because they're both opposites about how they
view the alien presence. And youknow, the Christians think they're all demonic
and new Agers think they're all benevolentthey can do no wrong, so they
can't both be right. And thetruth is often found in the middle ground.
And people ask me all the time, did God create aliens to go?

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And yes, the answer, theshort answer is yes. I prove
it in my book series. It'sin the Bible. It's just been covered
up through mistranslations, and the EnglishBible doesn't do it any justice, especially
the cast of characters. And yes, there is life on other planets.
And yes, the Bible says soin case people need to hear that.

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So you know, what we're dealingwith is a clash between two kingdoms.
And this is a page out ofmy first book, and this was what
I saw and downloaded back in thenineties. Of this battle, this cosmic
war, this galactic warfare between thesetwo groups. And always when it comes

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to war, there are people whoare in the middle. Now. Either
they're in the middle because they're playingboth sides, or they're in the middle
because they're thighs, or they're inthe middle because they want to be the
bridge to create peace between the twosides. So suffice to say, it's
all of the above with this wholecast of characters. And I unpacked this

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in my first book, so youknow, it's basically goes into this history
of the Anu Naki wars, LyronAndromeda and Pleadian battles over us, over
the human species. And you know, I don't have to tell you that.
You know, people are divided,and they're divided over know everything,

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really you name it, and there'sdivision. And that should tell us something
about our condition and our culture andeven sociology because and how the aliens view
us even more importantly, because theyknow that if we got together on the
same page and we became united andwe locked arms, we would be very

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powerful as a human group, asa human species. So they work very
hard day and night to keep usdivided over all kinds of things, Okay,
And so that's what that's what PresidentReagan was saying at the UN that
time. We all, we wouldall be divided if we were if there
were an alien force from out ofthis world. And that's exactly right,

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that's right, that's right. Sothis is just a page out of my
book called the Macavelian Alien Agenda,because I am connecting it to them,
and this is done through implants,and this is all part of the alien
abduction programs and implantation is part ofit. So you know, back to
this truth is stranger than fiction.You know, we are dealing with forces

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beyond our control. Uh and andand you know, people could think what
they want in their own narcissism andarrogance, but we do not have the
power to save ourselves. And andanyone can get up and prove that we
do, but we don't. Andwe really do need something outside of ourselves.
And there is no coincidence that allthese you know, Marvel d C

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comics which have now been turned intomovies, are all about some kind of
savior or messiah. Okay, maleand female. I mean Captain Marvel was
a female. So you know,back to the truth is strange in fiction.
We you and I we grew upwith the Jetson's right, So what
they showed us as a child isnow our reality. I mean, especially

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during the pandemic, everybody did youknow telemedicine and video calls and you know
here we are talking to each otherthrough our computers. So you know,
there's nothing new under the sun.All this stuff has happened before. So
I'm just connecting dots here to showthat, you know, the MC multiverse
is real. Now, this isa very important piece. I don't know

(37:22):
if people are following Loki and youknow what happened there with the manipulation of
time, so time, it's issomething that is being used to help us.
So that, like Einstein said,so not everything happens all at once,
but there are beings that are abovetime, that are beyond time,

(37:45):
that can look outside the timeline andgo past and go future. Okay,
and that is what is in theprophecies. So I'm connecting the dots to
what the Bible prophecies to about theend of this age. And you know,
look at this okay, so Thanosremember you know, I mean and

(38:08):
and this is Marduke. So Mardukewas the lord of Nibiu. Okay,
So isn't that interesting that that they'repulling that in whether they did the research,
I don't know. I don't knowthe scriptwriters. And you know,
I'm going to go through this alittle quickly because of time. But we
are seeing all these beings like thisis from the inner Earth stuff. So

(38:30):
you know, just because somebody hasblue skin, you know this is ancient.
I mean, why did the Indians, uh, the you know,
the Vedics have their gods were blueskin, blue tinted. And if we
have Avatar and far Escape and andand and even the x Men, well

(38:51):
you know inside the Earth, ifthey're not exposed to the sun and they
have more copper in their skin,then they're going to have a blue tint
So this is not, you know, far fetched, It's just another level
of reality. And as I wassaying earlier about Star Trek, well we
know that Gene Roddenberry used to sitin on these channeling sessions from Philishlemma,

(39:13):
who I got to meet and Igot to sit in on one of her
channeling sessions. She came to Coloradoin nineteen ninety seven, and he used
to go and sit in on hersessions in Los Angeles once a week,
and he got a lot of fodder. Okay, and she channeled the group
called the Council of Nine, whichis later on, after Roddenberry died,

(39:35):
they took all his notes and theyput it together and created Deep Space nine.
So that's just a little thing.And yeah, I think so too.
And then also, you know,he was a very good friends with
these two admirals, and these werepart of the top tier, you know,
the Navy, rules, the military. They had all this power.
They were overseeing the secret space technologiesthat they were creating and you know,

(40:01):
advancing. And this was after,you know, in the fifties and the
sixties, and they gave him information, they gave him ideas, and he
took it and worked with the scientists. Like I said, at the sci
Fi they come, they turn upat the sci Fi conventions and they talk
about it because they give credibility tothe science, to what is considered science

(40:21):
fiction. But it's really more futuristicand this is real, you know,
this is this is one of theirthings. So you know, we are
in a war, We're in aspiritual battle, and these beings are battling
over us. This is a pictureof me, and this is on the
second on the left side is actualname. I'm going to show you the

(40:44):
whole bunch of photos that will declassifiedfrom nineteen seventy one that was taken by
our navy in the Arctic Circle.Of different shapes. They're all different shapes,
and i'll show you in a minuteus coming and going out of the
ocean. Well in nineteen ninety five, what got me into all of this

(41:05):
was I was on that beach,Indian Rocks Beach, and I saw after
sunset this very similar craft, silverdisc shaped size of a football field,
emerge out of the Gulf of Mexico. Addie Ella, Did anyone else see
it with you? Or were youthe only one? No, I was
not the only one, and yes, so I had never heard of Moofon

(41:29):
until this event. And I wasn'talone on the beach. A lot of
people were hanging out. It wasa balmy night. I learned from a
friend that after that event, Moofonhad received three hundred and fifty calls that
night of other people who witnessed thesame craft from different angles all along the
shoreline there. So I was notalone. And that's when I started going

(41:52):
down rabbit holes and I was like, what what's going on? Because that
was a paradigm shift for me.I mean it was George. I had
no idea of any of this stuff. And you know, this is all
part of what they call the TampaTriangle. There's a lot going on.
This picture on the right was youknow, recently, just two years ago,

(42:13):
in twenty twenty two. There's alot of activity in the Gulf of
Mexico. So let's talk about thetruth of strange in fiction again. So
we have in our history all thesedifferent water gods. Okay. So in
the Sumerian tale en Kai, thevery word n Kai means lord of the
waters. But you know that's atitle that's not necessarily a name. A

(42:38):
lot of people get stuck on thinkingEnkai was his name, but it's really
his title. And there's been multiplewater gods, okay, And here we
have today Aquaman, who is youknow, the King of Atlantis. So
I don't think there's any coincidence there. And I'm gonna want to share something
with you about Aquaman. Two.So, and this is in my first

(43:01):
book book one. So I cameacross a year ago, March of twenty
twenty three, this letter that wasdeclassified and I published it, and it
was basically Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einsteinjointly writing this to then President Roosevelt during

(43:22):
the war, and what were theytalking about? The alien presence and trying
to get the president to change policyin the United Nations for an alien nation
or an alien group or an extraterrestrialgroup like outside the planet and inside the
planet. And the language, ifyou read the language, it's so revealing

(43:45):
and you think, wow, theyknew about this back then. Okay,
So isn't it interesting that this cameout last year? The film Oppenheimer,
which won a lot of awards,also came out last year, and Aquaman
too came out on Christmas of twentythree, so without spoiling it, and
I couldn't spoil it even if Itried, because because Aquaman is so deep,

(44:08):
and I recommend people watching it fromthe beginning, you know, the
first one and second one. Butit ends okay with Aquaman and his whole
group because he is the king ofAtlantis. And they poke fun at these
scientists who keep saying, oh,Atlantis is under the ocean, Atlantis is

(44:29):
here, Aquaman is and nobody believedhim until it actually happened. Everybody saw
it and the whole media all overthe place starts. You know, this
would we would call hard disclosure,saying oh, well it does exist,
it's come in and there it isin New York City, you know,
outside the United Nations, and theyliterally come up out of the ocean,
and he addresses the United Nation asthe alien nation on Earth and joins the

(44:54):
United Nations. I mean, youcan't make this stuff up. And so
back in the nineties I was friendswith Donald Ware. He was a whistleblower
who witnessed what happened in Gulf Breezein the eighties in Florida, and he
told me that in the future theywere going to transform the United Nations into

(45:20):
something similar to the Star Trek UnitedFederation of Planets. And he said that's
going to happen when they discover thealien presence on Earth. So I thought,
oh my, either he talked tothe scriptwriters of Acroman or they're just
plucking off that same morphogenetic field tree, because it is exactly the same.

(45:42):
It's just a total dot connected.So this is more of those usos coming
out of the oder. Obviously,that's the tic tac that became famous.
And here's that whole collage I wastelling you about that was declassified and this
was all taken in the Arctic Circle. So we see that there's Solander shaped
craft, triangular ones, the discshaped ones, so you know they're different,

(46:07):
and they're coming and going in theocean. Ella. Do you do
you think the different races have differentcrafts. Yes, I do, and
I think even the same race canhave multiple crafts, just like you and
I can have different types of cars. Right, okay, right, okay,
So I'm going to just go throughthis a little quickly here. So

(46:30):
this is a video that came offof the space telescope Stereoa showing this wheel.
It's shaped like a wheel and it'smoving through the sun. And not
only is it, if you see, it's not only moving through the sun,
it's creating a path like it's likemoving debris away from it. So

(46:50):
we dubbed this Ezekiel's Wheel because it'smentioned in the Bible, the Book of
So here you see the living spaceshipsand they're living. You know, we
also have Farscape was a TV seriesthat depicted a living ship and in the
Bible they took about the Mercaba,which is a living energy field and it's

(47:13):
a living ship, which is kindof like a three dimensional star of you
know, the six pointed Star ofDavid, but it's three dimensional, and
the top spins one way and thebottom spins the other way. And we
see this similarly that's depicted in thisillustration. And here's a little tidbit movie

(47:34):
tidbit down here, is that thespaceship that was used in the movie Contact,
which is one of my favorite moviesof all time, was that Yeah,
isn't that great? And they usedthis. They were supposed to put
it in Terminator too, but itended up in Contact. So that's just
a little movie trivia for someone outthere. So all this stuff is in

(47:57):
the Bible. The usos are inthe Bible. The US foes are in
the Bible, coming in and outof the Earth, coming out of the
sky. You know, there's nothingnew under the sun. I prove this,
and I pull all those scriptures andexpound and explain it to those who
really need to see it. Andthen of course we have all this stuff
that's happening in Antarctica. Okay,And let's not forget the X Files,

(48:22):
and the X File movie was focusedon a spaceship coming out of Antarctica.
Right, okay, so here weare. You know, time just gets
away from us. But Sizel,I want to show you about the planets
that are around the Sun. Andthese are all in the space telescopes.
We are seeing something eclipse our Sunevery twenty eight days, and it's not

(48:43):
the moon. Now. This isfrom April eighth, the big total solar
eclipse. So the first object you'reseeing is our moon passing the Sun.
And if you look at the timestamp, you see four hours later another
object eclipsed and passed the Sun.Ellen, Ella, Ellen, How is

(49:05):
how is that? How is thatnot common knowledge? How is what not
common knowledge? That second that's asecond planet or whatever that was? Why
do we not know about these things? Well? Yeah, that's the million
dollar question. That's what I wastelling you earlier. Is it all has
to do with this cover up fornational security and weapons in space. So

(49:30):
it started with Reagan and it wentinto these executive orders. But here's the
thing, and this is what Iunpacked. You know, I used to
be a paralegal, so I wentin and all this stuff and I just
want to let you watch it onemore time and maybe focus on the time
stamp, so you can see thatthere are two completely different eclipses on the
same day, four hours apart,over the Sun, going in two different

(49:52):
directions, so we know that it'snot the moon the second one. The
first one is the moon. TheThe reason that it's covered up is multiple
reasons. One, they have somuch tech up there there. They they
want to retard the warming. They'redoing you know, engineering of the weather

(50:13):
and all of that. But themain thing that they're protecting are the weapons
in space. So what they toldus, you know, back in the
eighties was that, oh, wewere putting the SDI up there to protect
us from China and Russia from theirweapons. But what they didn't tell everybody
was they were preparing for a warin space, a real star wars,

(50:37):
which is in the Bible, bythe way, it's it's literally written into
the prophecies that you know that therewas that everyone was going to look up
and see all this stuff happening abovethe Earth literally in space, and that
there was going to be some kindof need to defend Earth space from an

(50:58):
alien presence. Okay, so they'vebeen preparing for this for a very long
time. So that's why we don'tall know about it. That's why it's
not common knowledge. But they knowthat there's a system up there. They're
covering it up with space tech.But you know, like old technology,
it glitches, it's not perfect,and every now and then we see what's

(51:21):
going on. But what I'm showinghere, okay, in the space telescopes
is public, all right. Sothere it is hiding in plain sight,
and it's available to anyone who wantsto go and look for it. So
there's a twenty four to seven loopvideo and you can screenshot and you can

(51:42):
watch from multiple space telescopes what ishappening around the Sun. And that's what
we're harvesting. So as you cansee, I mean which pictures are from
the movie and which is from thespace telescope, and there's a hole in
it, and we're seeing sort twoof them show up around the Sun with
holes in it. So I justconnected it. Well, it looks like

(52:06):
the Death Star to me, SoI don't know. I can't ell the
planet Nibiru, which circles the Earthwhat every three thousand, five hundred year,
I mean the Sun three thousand,five hundred year something like that.
With the Mayan calendar. Wasn't that? Aren't they related somehow? Yeah?
Yeah, you're you're you're closed fivethree thousand, five hundred and sixty seven

(52:27):
years and we're due. And thefirst time you know that, we're sitting
here talking during the time of passover, and the first passover was a passing
of Nibiru, which was three thousand, four hundred and eighty years ago.
So we are there's an extraterrestrial race. Is that the Onanaki that live on

(52:51):
that planet? Who lives on thatplanet? Well, the word an Anaki,
which we learned about from Sitchen's materialis which literally means he who comes
from the heaven to Earth. Solet's just suffice to say extraterrestrial, okay,
coming down. So there have awhole group of them, and they're
not just one. And as Ishowed earlier, they'd been warring against different

(53:15):
factions of you know, not onlyon Nibiru, but other planets as well,
the Lyron Wars, the Andromeda andthe Pleiadian. Uh so it's not
all just focused on one particular thing. So here, you know, the
middle picture is a photo from Earth. The other three are come from Star

(53:37):
Wars, which I have. It'syou know, just given credit to the
franchise. But isn't it interesting thattoday's astronomers when they whenever they discover planets
in a binary system, they callthem tattooine planets. Okay, so they're
there. George Lucas should be gettingroyalties from the scientists. Thank Yeah.
And so this is something that happenedon the Moon. This is a Will

(54:00):
Tompkins who sketched this because when theastronauts landed on the Moon, there were
two feeds, a live feed thatwent straight to the mission control and it
it was private, and he sawit and he drew that. So what
he told us was that not onlywere these ships waiting for them around the

(54:23):
crater, that's what the triangles orthe shadows, they were hovering right above
the surface, but standing next tothem were nine foot tall lizard men.
Okay, and you so we haveedgar Mitchell. He's a major astronaut whistleblower
and people could read about it.This is just illustrating how the system is

(54:45):
working and intersecting in our Solar system. And it's no coincidence that Star Trek
did a movie called Nemesis and sobased on the media so on the bottom
pictures. They all come from CNN. How about that. So CNN was
when in the nineties when they werethey were different back then, they were

(55:07):
reporting on this. We have videos, we have evidence of that, so
they were telling people about it.Remember the movie Armageddon, one of my
favorites. Yeah, so that thisis a very real one of the top
most important NASA program called DART,which is the Double Asteroid Redirection Test,

(55:27):
and they are literally going and nudgingasteroids off their orbit so they don't hit
the Earth. No suicide missions,not like in Our Bread right right,
Yeah, I love that movie.So and here we have more pictures from
the space telescope connecting it with what'sin the Egyptian temples and also what people

(55:49):
are seeing through their telescopes and whyin Egypt and Persia and all through the
Middle East they show the same bigred disc with wings that's Nibiu. And
it's connected to these two end timeprophecies Revelation six twelve and Jol two thirty
one, which has nothing to dowith normal eclipses. This is our planet

(56:12):
is going to go through the debrisfield of Nabiu first before Nabiu passes.
So the debris field is full ofall kinds of space junk, calmets,
asteroid, meteorize, fireballs, andit proceeds like a parade the planet itself
and our planet is on a trajectorywith this. We're going to orbit through
it and it's going to create ameteor storm all around Earth, which and

(56:37):
because Nabiu is covered with red ironoxide, it's going to turn the Moon
red. But it's not a lunareclipse, and it's going to black out
the Sun because we're not going toget it get any light from the Sun
because we're going to be going throughthis field. It will pass. We're
not going to get stuck there.But this is what is being predicted off

(57:00):
aside, and you know, unfortunately, because of time, I can't unpack
it even more. But it's allin my books proving what today's whistleblower.
Astronomers are also predicting that when itgoes around the Sun, it's gonna it's
gonna pass the Earth twice. It'sgonna go around the Sun and the Sun
is going to give it energy.It's going to catapult it right back out

(57:20):
into orbit. It's going to passthe Sun, pass the Earth, the
second time, and that is whatthe Bible calls the Terrible Day of the
Lord, where the where he turnsthe earth upside down Biblical vernacular for poll
shift, which has happened before.Again, nothing new under the sun,
but that is what we have tolook forward to. I think, serious,

(57:44):
ella, what's the time frame?When when is the barrier going to
come up around the sun. Well, that's that's a million dollar question that
Sitchen never answered that. I don'tmake a date predictions, and my next
book explains why, because the thetimeline has been manipulated. The calendars have
been manipulated, every single calendar exceptthe Julian. So the calendar we're on

(58:07):
has absolutely no astronomical sense whatsoever.And also we have a prophecy that talks
about time speeding up. So foranyone to give a date, forget about
it. It's going to get shifted. That's all I'm going to say.
But we're close. It's going tohappen in this century, in our lifetimes,

(58:28):
are our grandchildren's lifetimes, Well,it's already begun, okay. So
this is a process, and thewhole thing takes seven years. When it
does enter in and pass the earthit's going to take seven years from beginning
to end, which coincides with thebiblical seven year tribulation, okay, or
the times of Jacob's troubles and Jacobbecame Israel, And it's all focused on

(58:51):
the portal of Israel. No norelation to Marilyn Monroe seven year rich.
Hello, we have to wrap up, we op. I told you that,
I told you that these are fascinating. I told you that would come
really fast. You know you reallyyou should do lectures to like graduate students
all over the world. I mean, these are just remarkable. Your research
is really impressive. It's really reallycool. If you want to cut off

(59:15):
your powerpoints so I can see yourbeautiful face, oh sure, yeah,
of course, thank you. Thereyou go. So, I mean,
yeah, you've put in countless howmany your poor husband does does he ever
see you? You're always researching andputting together the most amazing slides on the
planet. But anyway, thank you, Ello Lebane. That was really wonderful

(59:35):
and very interesting, and thank youfor being my friend and being so unique.
Check out ELO's books Who's Who andThe Cosmic Zoo. They're available all
over the internet. I'm Dan Harari. Next week, I have Richard and
Tracy Dolan, the Mary Dolans.I don't know if that if they've ever
done an interview together, but we'llfind out next week. And I'm Dan

(59:57):
harariauthor dot com. Check out Contactand The Desert dot com for tickets and
also don't forget Hollywood Disclosure Alliance dotorg. See you next week. Thank
you for watching live from Hollywood.It's paranormal tonight
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