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June 29, 2025 30 mins
In this explosive episode, Demoree Hadley—daughter of Roc Nation CEO Desiree Perez—recounts a harrowing chapter of her life when she was allegedly lured to Dania Beach, Florida under the guise of a job opportunity, only to find herself involuntarily committed to a mental institution. Demoree reveals how Dr. Daniel Bober, with the aid of Jim Fondo, Steve Cady, and Jessica Cady, orchestrated a scheme to have her Baker Acted—without any legitimate psychological evaluation or just cause. She details the shocking use of GPS tracking on her vehicle, a clear invasion of her privacy, and how these coordinated actions were weaponized against her to suppress and silence her. All of this is meticulously outlined in her ongoing federal lawsuit. This episode dives deep into the abuse of power, medical manipulation, and the emotional toll of being betrayed by those closest to you. If you’ve ever doubted that freedom can be taken without cause—Demoree’s story will make you think again.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But people need to hear the whole thing. Hopefully pull

(00:04):
up when.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
She gets ure.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
I just want to stand by with her while he
had value him. That's as time Mike.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, I just don't want her to take off because
she's looking.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
At I take something that's off. Well, he's he's gonna bake, right,
he's gonna he's there. He's the doctor's day.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Cracks or she's a way she shouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
She just got off five ninety five, so I wait
for her car to try that. She's driving Mercedes, so
I'm waiting for it to drive by it. I think
she's the CEO of Rock Natian. She paid you, he's
like all doctors get paid, okay, And I can't request
another doctor since you were called by my mother.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm just asking your.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Money.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's fine. I can say any doctor. I just I
don't like a conflict of interest. And I'm telling them belief.
Do you not hear this? Prevent me to make me away? Sir?
I have a psychological right now. Do you want to

(01:21):
speak to my doctors? Can say after.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I like my doll, I supposed to don't talk, Okay, Well,
I have a psychothera.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I have pony there's right now and what can I
think the same?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
My daughter even hold the nid on the website. You
what are you guys said?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Talk more?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
You guys so worry.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
A mobile crisis team working with doctor bo.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Go out here routine to conduct these mobile crisis things.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
What were the goals right now?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
He's going to be practice.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We're going to transport her.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
She doesn't good and we have to work on plan doing.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Most often people offer go with us, So.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
We are going to handcuffed the guitar. You guys probably
transport to hot Nomore anyway, the usual cuss right. No,
she wants I call my doctor who I was, you know,
started with repressing the same once a month, like for
life and stuff like that, and you know whatever. And
I tell her this is what's happening. She talks to him.

(02:36):
That's what you see him walking away and I'm following him.
He started like, you need to stay here. I'm like why,
Like why do I need to stay with you? Like
I'm trying to listen to what he's saying, And she's
telling him she doesn't meet criteria. She's never been suicidal.
I've been seeing her for the last three years. She
doesn't have a mental illness, she's not on drugs. And
he's like, what you guys don't hear is He says,

(02:57):
come on, you gotta help me here. The mom wants
me to get this done. You got to help me here.
She's like, I'm not helping you. He's a doctor. Yeah,
but she's my doctor. I'm not a doctor he is. Okay,
but you're saying you're going to detain.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Me, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Allow him to do his job so we can do
this the easy way. Please let him see me legally.
I have no history, So why can't I go? Ma'm
I'm not a doctor. I don't I've never go to jail.
If I don't go, we do say anything about go home. No,

(03:32):
at the end, you're you're you're gonna go to a hospital.
You're gonna get checked out. I don't have to go
to any hospital.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I have a doctor.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, let the doctor speak, then give it a second.
Wait off. I don't know you man. You're asking a
hundred questions that I don't have the answers to.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Relax.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I can't go home. Why he's got my doctor, He's
never seen me in my life. That's not legal that's
the mobile crisis unit. They can do that. This is
doctor Bobar, Daniel Bobar, the chief of Memorial Regional Hospital,
lying saying that that you know, he comes back and

(04:11):
he tells the police. Oh, the doctor said, she only
knows the information that the moury tells her, but the
moury doesn't allow her to speak to anybody else, like
insinuating that my doctor said to do it. But I
tell the police talk to my doctor, please talk to her.
They refuse to talk to her. They said, he's a doctor.
What's the word, sir, Free to take her.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I have too many I have three different collateral sources
of information that say that she's been acting psychotic, that
she's read the overdose yesterday. The psychologist is admitting to
me that the only information that she has is from
her because the psychology will not allow the psychologists speak
to anyone else.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Let the record reflect. They didn't I D doctor Bobar,
they didn't I D James Bondo, they didn't I D
Jessica Caddy, and they didn't I D Stephen Caddy, and
then they lie. Jessica Caddy, Stephen Caddy and James Fondo
all worked together and own a company called SIG nine,
which is a private investigation company and security company.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
SIG nine, or Security Investigations Group, is owned by James Fondo,
Steve Caddy, and Jessica Caddy. Steve Caddy was a contracted
security provider and consultant to the Miami Dolphins, and that
Jessica Caddy has twenty years experience in the security industry.
Mister Fondo once supervised the Broward County Sheriff's Office Homeland

(05:31):
Security Unit, and he was also involved in an incident
that was caught on the TV show Cops, where Fondo
was filmed dropping a bag of controlled substances, allegedly suggesting
that he planted evidence. This led to an internal affairs
perjury investigation. Fondo testified he saw four men huddled around
a bench in Daniel Beach. He claimed he saw them

(05:54):
preparing the controlled substances for distribution, and he saw one
of them drop a plastic As he made the arrest,
Fondo was being tailed by a cameraman from the TV
show Cops, which was filming its first season in Broward County.
The cameraman filmed Fondo dropping the bag. The clip was
used as evidence in the trial and charges were dropped

(06:16):
for three of the four men. Another incident in nineteen
eighty nine where Fondo was involved in a separate false
arrest case. Fondo signed an affidavit claiming a man purchased
a controlled substance in the reverse sting operation. Turns out
the man was riding on a Greyhound bus at the
same time. The case was settled out of court and

(06:37):
the department paid the man thirty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
They lie and they tell police that they are there
as a mobile crisis unit for Memorial Hospital to as
this doctor bobar in transporting me. Memorial Hospital does not
have a mobile crisis unit. Those investigators that meet on
bodykit camera that they landed a tracker on my car

(07:02):
and tracked me there to Dania Beach. Well, I'm saying
she's she's heading over here right now or yes, they
have a GPS on her. Okay, So she and conspired
to abduct me in a vehicle with doctor Beaumar. And
police didn't id not one person, didn't review any paperwork

(07:23):
because there was no paperwork. They didn't verify anything. They
just went with what this man was saying. Doctor's made
a termination. He wants taking it for evaluation. You can
come with me and the young lady right there. You
won't be restrained, you won't be handcuff or driving to
the hospital.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Will take the.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Dog with you. We can make arrangement to get to
the hospitals old with anyone. You can turn the dog
over to her or anybody.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
You said, right, she just.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Told me that I don't have that. Dude's any evaluation.
Can you see that what she sees that I'm not
a harm to myself? That I can go home today?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
She could petition for.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Otherwise I can go home today. Hospital first.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
If the evaluation turned off, that you can.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Discharge them at your story, James Fondo says, just ask
your your sergeant, ask your chiefs like name dropping, call
them if you have any questions. I used to work
at Broward share ASoft.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Appreciate you guys time.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, Fortunately, what's the chief religic? What's the chiefly allergic?
What's that with the chief no wigic? Well district?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Were you in before?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Hello, that's an original danger policeman. You're looking at you
because he actually was a day you cop before. Both
you guys yourn before you'ren I used to go talk
about it get drop every every every Sunday night. Okay, okay,
you guys that so unfortunate too.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Oh, I basically showing exactly what we know to be true.
Desire Paress Rock Nation made phone calls to police officers
in broad Shaff's office. Sergeants hire up chiefs to orchestrate
my false arrest or detainment or canmitment and my absorption.

(09:02):
And that's all on body worn camera.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Oh my god. Okay, that's a lot. That's a lot.
And so then you're taken in. You have to go
through intake and they're testing you to see if what
you're being held there for is legitimate. And you're like,

(09:24):
please test me, test me. I remember listening to you
say that at some point.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, so I'm sorry, this is the part I get
a little bit emotional, but just saying take your time. Yeah,
this is the part that like, So he takes me
to the intake room by himself, like there's no nurse
with me. So he comes, closes the door and I'm
like I request, I'm like I need another doctor. He's
being bought. My mom's the CEO of Rock Nation. I'm

(09:54):
begging and they're like, because he has a big rep
form and he's the one who committed you. He has
to be the doc to assess you. And I'm like,
why I need to speak to whoever is in charge.
Like Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, Florida is a big hospital.
You guys have to have somebody who can come. And
I'm telling you this guy was bought. It's a conflict
of interest. I don't want him to assess me. And
they're like, there's nothing we can do. There's nothing we

(10:16):
can do. He comes into the room, closes the door.
He pulls his phone out and he says, what is
this video? And he plays the video from January sixteen,
twenty twenty two. He goes, your mother sent me this,
and so I go, I do not have to answer
any questions about an alleged domestic bidence incident that you're

(10:36):
claiming occurred that my mother texts you. Show me the
evidence that I'm a danger to myself and show me
that in an evidence that I'm a drug addict. Why
can't you show me because you ran my test and
you know they're negative. Legally, you need to let me
walk out of here. Because Baker acts. You can't Baker
act somebody for an alleged domestic violence. If that was
the case, the whole world would be baker acted. That's real.

(11:00):
So like, you're not gonna play me. Now that you
show me the phone in the video, I know that
you're in communications with my mother in an unethical way,
So you need to let me out of here. Oh well,
you might have in mental illness that you're hiding, so
we're going to keep you here over night to make
sure you're not performing. I said, I said, I said.

(11:24):
I told him in that room, I'm gonna soothe the
shit out of you, is what's gonna happen. I'm going
to shit out of you because you are going to
keep me here against my will with no evidence. Okay,
you want to do that, Okay, wh what's wrong? He goes,
you seem like a smart girl. You seem like that's
what he's talking to me. You see, Michael smart. I go, no,

(11:45):
I don't seem like a smart girl. I am smart,
and you're being hought by my brother. I didn't receive
a dollar from your mother. I'm like, okay, okay, I'm like,
you're not going to get me to to come out
of character, so feed into you and Desire's narrative. I'm
not doing that. I said, you're not gonna let me go. Okay,
you're not gonna let me go. And so I then

(12:07):
get moved to the Uh it's like the unit before
the psych word where they medicate people essentially who need it.
He orders for me to be medicated with benadrille, thailand
and some other medication.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
That doesn't even go because originally the diagnosis on the
Baker Act was with psychosis, hallucinations and attempted o D.
That was the first. That was the first thing on
the Baker for Then when I got in there, he
added schizophrenia. Oh wow, yeah. And then when I'm on

(12:47):
the board, you don't first of all, you don't send
benda drill to people with skits like yeah, is to
make you drowsy and sleepy. That's what he wanted to do,
to make me sleepy. So the nurses and the er
doctor God bless herself, they were like, your talk screens
are clean. What's happening. I tell them the whole story,

(13:09):
and they're like, we're not giving you no medicine. I didn't.
I want to put it on the record. I didn't
get medicated because the nurses and the other doctors were
like this girl, like something is up, like we're gonna
They were paging him, calling him, they were documenting, which
was I'll give you the medical records. She's fine, clear science.
The nurse even called Javon for me and I could

(13:33):
put her name out there, Pam Anderson, nurse, Pam Anderson
for Memorial Regional Hospitals, Salute to you. But now she
showed me I didn't know the amount of lies. She
showed me that the Baker Act was saying extensive drug addiction.
And she's like, this makes no sense. Who is your mother?
I said, my mother is a CEO Rock Nation. She's like, oh,
now this is making sense. And she's like she's calling Javon.

(13:55):
She's like, I'm gonna try to help her. So she's
she's putting a paper trill for me. The er doc
calling him, he's ignoring people's pages, he's ignoring people's calls,
and everybody's like, we don't know what to do, but
we're not going to medicate you. I'm in a room
with a man who just stabbed six people, a heroin
addict to my left, and another man who tried to

(14:19):
ring somebody and go himself, and an officer watching all
of us. So I'm there and I'm like preparing myself
for what's possibly about to happen. When I go up
to the psych board, I'm like Jesus Christ, like get
yourself together. The more you got this, be strong. Like
I'm talking to the Javon from the nurse's phone, like
they're trying to get this doctor Bobar. They're trying to

(14:41):
get in touch with people, but nobody comes. Nobody comes.
And now I'm being taken to the psyche ward and
they're telling me, Okay, you should be able to leave tomorrow.
Maybe he's just you know, the maximum that they can
keep you in the state of Florida is seventy two hours.
For Baker, You're supposed to be released after seventy two hours.
That's the ma. I go into the sideboard. It's men

(15:05):
and women. They don't separate you. I get Yeah, they
stripped me of my clothes. I'm in a gown. They
take away phones, everything. I'm the nurse there, Nurse Andy
God blesses those said, I'm gonna put you in a
room next to me and the camera so I can
watch you because you can't close the door here, and

(15:26):
because you had some dangerous people on this floor, so
I'm gonna look out for you. Because they believed me.
They knew, like, this is not right. And then they
were telling me that doctor Bobar had connections to the
FBI and had connections to high powerful people, and that
my store didn't seem far fetched, that he was paid,
and who my mother was. So they were already like, Okay,

(15:47):
this girl's telling the truth. So they were trying to
look out for me. They told me try not to
fall asleep. So now I'm in hospital gown in a
floor with men and women some dangerous, dangerous place, like
trying to keep myself together because I'm like if I cried,
it's going to feed into the narrative that I'm crazy.

(16:08):
If I yell, feed into narrative that I'm crazy. I
can't fall asleep because I don't want to get ripped
in this facility because a lot of people get sexually
assaulted in these places. I didn't sleep for the three
days that I was there. I didn't sleep, I didn't eat.
I didn't trust the food. The nurse was giving me

(16:29):
packaged crackers and forcing me to eat. Nurse Maria God
bless herself. She was like, listen, eat some crackers, because
if he writes on your chart that you're not eating,
it's going to feed into the narrative. So just eat
some crackers. Like they were allowing me to use the
phones to get an attorney to call Javonts, I come
up with an x kase I was advocating, like she's constant.

(16:49):
I asked to speak to the supervisor of the hospital,
the clinical social worker. Nobody could stand up to this,
doctor Botbar, so I was stuck there. The doctor, doctor
w doctor Cohen didn't a psychiatric evaluation found me to
not be a threat to myself foundly with no diagnosis.
She literally just said patient is here due to Baker

(17:11):
Act diagnosis, which doctor Bobar wrote. But she's like to me,
you don't have this, but because it's a Baker Act,
I have to put it. But you don't have that,
and she put that in her notes. And so at
one point doctor Bobar comes into the room and I
asked Nurse Maria to stay as a witness, and he's like,
so are you gonna admit that you're being abused?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I was like, you cannot baker act me and have
me in here for an alleged DV. You and my
mother are working together, and I know you're getting paid.
You need to let me go or you are going
to regret this because I will take legal action. And
then he's like, no, we still need to watch you
because you could be performing. I'm like, I am not performing.
And then he's like, well, what's the rush. If you

(17:54):
don't have anything you can leave, what are you missing
out on? You don't work, you don't have a job.
That's how I knew he was in communication with my
mom because I forgot when Javon won his case and
made Belle. In January, I was fired by a konic
creative agency with no explanation whatsoever, and I have of that,
and then they gave me a gag order to try

(18:15):
to say you can't get you won't receive your paychecks
unless you sign this, which means like you can't take
legal action or speak out on the company. I was like,
I'm not signing nothing. I went two months without getting paid.
It wasn't until I made a threat to hire a
lawyer that they wired me payments that I was old.
But they didn't pay me for two months to try
to force me to sign a gag order. Liz for

(18:35):
Hella and Benny for HeLa for my Iconic Creative Agency.
I want to put that on the record. Obviously, my
mom told them to fire me because they thought I
wouldn't be able to afford to live or to you know,
help you know, help my husband with his legal case
and all that stuff. So I got fired one week
after for my Iconic Creative one week after Javon made Bell.
So just just want to put that.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Up, just to pull the rug right out from underneath.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
You pull it out. So he tells me you don't
have a job, So I already knew. Oh she told
you about Iconic. How did she know that I got
fired for Iconic if she wasn't in contact with Iconic?
So I go, oh, so thanks for proving my point
that you and my mom know about Iconic. I go.
But at that time, what they didn't know is I
already got a job as a social worker for unaccompanied children.

(19:22):
So they didn't know that I already got hired. I
was already working there, And so I go, I do
have a job, And thanks for confirming that you're in
communication with my mom, She's like, I've told you I
didn't get paid. I didn't get paid. And then he
starts telling me, oh, you think you're smart, you think
you're this, like, let me keep it together. I'm sorry,
like like verbally, like you know, verbally trying to bring

(19:43):
me down and like make me feel inferior when I'm
already feeling inferior in this hospital, not sleeping, not eating.
I remember, like one night I threw up from the
hunger and the acid in my stomach. I was cleaning
like with my hands, like just me, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Oh my goodness, Oh listen to me. Number one, take
your time. Number two, you're doing great. Number Three. Everything
that you're telling me, I've experienced myself. So I want
you to just remember that God was with you. Your
bravery is what got you here, and it's so that

(20:26):
you could tell this story. Because a lot of people
don't want to believe that these things happen to real people.
They think they're things that just happen in movies. But
this is real life for some of us. So whether
or not anyone has told you, and I'm sure people
in your life that love you have we're very proud
of you for your bravery, and we thank you for

(20:50):
having the courage to share your story.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I appreciate that. Okay, So I'm like cleaning the bathroom
because in my head, I'm like, man, if if this
man sees that I'm throwing up, He's going to use
it as an excuse that I'm sick and I have
to stay here longer. I'm like cleaning so that nobody

(21:15):
notices the vomit with my hands and the napkins, and
trying to hide any evidence that could appear that I'm
sick because I don't want him to keep me there longer.
Like I'm like, I don't want to be here. I
don't deserve to be here, Like I don't know what
else to tell you. People like, and it sounds crazy
when you're in a psych word telling people I'm a

(21:36):
social worker, I do two drugs. My mom is lying,
she wants to steparating me for a potfriend. So a
lot of people are like, oh, like, you know, she's
sick whatever. But thankfully, like some of the people did
believe me in there, and so I'm like trying to
like stay together advocate for myself. And then finally comes
the day that I'm supposed to be released, and here

(21:56):
comes doctor Bobar marching in and he treated me horribly,
like talk to me like shit, like have a job,
you don't have anywhere to go to. Why are you
worried like bringing me down to to get me to react.
That's why I was like, You're not going to get
a reaction out of me. You're not. And even nurse
Maria told the supervisor he spoke to her horribly. She's

(22:17):
not making this up. I was in the room he did. Bobar,
the disgusting, bully, the abuser. He was verbally using me
to be honest with you. And so when it's five o'clock,
which is the time to be released, he comes in
and he goes, oh, you're not being released. The judge

(22:37):
just signed a Marchman order. I was like, what what
what is a march Like this is the first time
I'm learning about a marker. I'm like, what is a
Marchman order? And he's like, it's basically a court order
document timed by the judge saying that if you leave
here they can detain you and put you in prison.
You're being transferred to a rehabilitation facility for drug addiction.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
With no drug it's in your system.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Exactly. So I'm like, I'm telling I'm asking for the supervisor,
I'm asking for the head. I'm telling them, can you
check if that theal is real? Because how did my
mom get a judge to sign a Marchman order in
twenty four hours? Like, and isn't there a due process?
Doesn't there have to be a hearing? Is if my

(23:24):
talk screens are clean? Like how are they making this happen?
Drug addiction? And I'm reading the affidavit which I will
provide to you, and it's saying that I was stealing
prescription drugs from my grandmother, yeah, that I was getting high,
that Javon was raping me with men trafficking me, that

(23:46):
I had schizophrenia, psychosis, hallucinations, like just a whole bunch
of eyes. And now they're telling me you're being Marchmen acted.
If you leave, you'll be put under arrest. And so
at that point, I'm like, you know, I'm like, what
where am I going? A real facility? Like what is

(24:07):
going on? So then Broward Sheriff's Office comes and they
handcuffed me and they put me in the back of
a car and They take me to Life Skills in
Deerfield Beach, which, let the record reflect, doctor Daniel Bobar
is the chief of Life Skills Deerfield Beach. And when
I arrived, they told me we are full. How did

(24:31):
you get a placement in this facility? And I was like,
my mom paid doctor Bobar and I was advocating, and
I even asked, I said, I need another doctor. I
need to speak to your chief. I don't have anything.
This is a lie, this is being orchestrated. I have
no drugs in my system. And so the marchmen act
usually within forty eight hours, I believe it is. You're
allowed to be released if you don't meet criteria unless

(24:53):
a judge signs off for you to stay. What happens
ten minutes into me getting to Life Skills, my serves
me a court processor serves me with a court ordered
petition where the judge says I have to stay there
fourteen days until my hearing.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah I've been there. That sucks, but she made it through.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah yeah. I'm like, this is insane. So I go
through the intake. I'm telling them I'm advocating, this is
all on the notes, but they tell me you're just
gonna have to wait. So at that point hired an attorney.
I was ordered to go to AA classes. I was
ordered to go to withdraw classes. They didn't even have

(25:39):
room in the facility, so they put me on the
men's side of the rehab facility, and I was staying
with two women who were both surviving heroin addicts and
one who one who tried to who actually successfully shot
herself and survived. And they didn't have room for me,
so I had to sleep in a room that was
like supposed to be like a clean room. They pulled

(26:01):
out a bed there and they put me there because
it was that max capacity. So it's just more proof
that doctor Bobar got paid to put me there, because
there was people that was on a wait list for
years to get into that facility, and I just happened
to show up and be let into the facility like
no and yeah no, just like that with a phone call.

(26:26):
And so luckily I was able to get another doctor.
Her name is doctor Despina. I told her what was
going on. She believed me. She's like, I have to
put on the notes, you know what the marchman says,
because it's court ordered. But you know, she I was
calling Javon, I was calling my lawyer. I was defending myself.
But I had to attend all these drug rehab classes.

(26:47):
Like mind you, somebody never drank alcohol. And I'm over
here and listening to people pass a coin saying that
they're thirty days sober, and I'm like, you know what
is people saying? I mean, I witnessed when I was there,
the scariest thing being served. You're with cameras twenty four
to seven. You can't have the doors closed. People are
watching you when you eat, when you're sleep, You're with

(27:08):
all these addicts. It's very traumatizing. I witnessed a girl
trying to kill herself there. She cut her thighs multiple times.
The ambulance had to come. Somebody got sexually assaulted by
a dumpster while I was there in a facility. It
was horristic the things that I saw, and I had

(27:29):
to like stuck up while I was there.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
I had to ask you this question right now in
the midst of all of this. This is all traumatizing.
We both know that the funny thing is is all
of the things that they lied about you being in there.
They forced you to have to witness them, be around them,
experience them like, this is so traumatic. Did you ever

(27:55):
think your mother was capable of putting you through this?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
No? I felt. I felt that was the worst experience
of my life by far, to lose your freedom, to
lose your right to feel like no one's listening to you,
to lose your voice to be I was scared, Like
I'm not from the shreets. I've never been around drug addicts.

(28:24):
Like it's not to throw shade on them, right because
they're sick and there to get help. But it's freaking
scary to be around people who have are experiencing withdrawal.
It's very like scary.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It's whatever you went through during COVID to the eighty
millionth power. These are people who are suffering, who can't
even it's anyone could have snapped and you could have
been forced to either become a victim of that or
just a witness to it. Either one is traumatizing. And

(28:58):
I all I can tell you was this, I know
that God has his hand on you because I know
what it's like to make it through that, and you
handled it brilliantly, brilliantly.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, I didn't want to feed it. What she wanted
to do was break me. That's what she wanted to do.
And I wasn't going to give her that that luxury.
I was not going to allow her to break me.
I was not going to feed into doctor Daniel Bobar's
narrative or her narrative. I wasn't going to be silenced
or intimidated. I just kept advocating for myself and in
every session, advocating and saying why I was there and

(29:34):
that I was falsely accused. And you'll see that in
the notes because I knew it. There was a paper trail.
So I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to I'm
going to speak up and there's going to be a
paper trail to back up what I'm saying and the
judge is going to see it. So that's all I
kept doing. Like when they would force me and then
they're like, if you don't participate, then you know you
it looks bad. So what did I do? I participated
in anything. I started signing up for things. I didn't
even have to sign up. I was everything. I was

(29:58):
going to, like yo, go for like like tremors, like
I was going for everything.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Did you do the painting class? Did they have a
painting or art class?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I think they did. I did like a soundback class,
then they did like uh, I did everything Like they
were like, you know, you don't have to go to this.
I'm like, oh, I'm going to everything. I'm gonna prove
what's wrong with me, and I'm gonna make sure to
tell my story
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