July 22, 2025 • 42 mins
Jaguar Wright and Wolfgang Amadeuz tackle the Internet’s wildest rumors and hard facts as we dissect reports of Malcolm‑Jamal Warner’s alleged passing—separating clickbait from the true legacy of TV’s beloved Theo Huxtable turned activist. Then, we pivot to Prince of Darkness himself, Ozzy Osbourne, exploring his near‑death moments, his battle with fame and health, and why his survival has cemented him as rock’s undying icon. Join us for an unfiltered conversation on how we mourn legends, the power of rumors, and what it really means to face mortality in the spotlight.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's all on French Dreams.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yep, all on funch Free. Yeah, I just love it.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Beat this beat, just this beat, just does it like
hip hop people?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How much more people knew what that meant? This is
hip hop?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know. It's just watching the world and seeing how
like people have mistaken our culture for a pop culture.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And it's not the same.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's not the same, No, not at all. It's it's
it's a feel, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You know, y'all know what it is. If you know
hip hop, you know it. You can't even explain it.
It's like trying to explain God. That's like, you know,
it's come.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
On, that's an interesting way of putting.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
We are all on front, all on no for real,
you got it. You gotta experience it. You gotta have
God in you to know to know God.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Let's just get absolutely absolutely. It's funny because like different
people have different you know, spiritual experiences like shout out
to me and mc glover and everyone. Please make sure
that you run out and either get you a digital
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Truth Ton new book.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's really amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But even we were talking about the House Movement and
how you know, people keep forgetting like what a spiritual
experience the House Movement was. And you know, there's certain
parts of our culture, our music, our history where you
feel closer to God. It's just it brings you right there.
So you know, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Can't just say it's just hip hop.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know. It's just what the funny thing is is
all of these you know, God driven you know, emotions
and stuff that we have tend to all come from
music that derives from our people.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
God pe people there it is because what I'm saying
is what other music or that that's that's globally that's
out there like that that people.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Are rushing to play or be a part of.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You really don't hear nobody running around saying, hey, we're chilling,
let's put on a put on an afro beats, you
know what I mean? Like you either gonna play some
some old school Aliyah, You're gonna play some old school
hip hop, you go. I mean, I mean, I'm just
keeping it a buck, that's all. And maybe I'm a
little biased, but you really and not hearing people all we're.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Gonna play that. Let's play some Sosa, Let's let's play
you know now they well.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I mean those don't get me wrong, All of those
different genres of music. They inspire a certain vibe, but
not just where where people really come together like it.
But it's the same thing with gospel music, you know
what I mean, there's this everything that that comes from
our in our true indigenous people. It inspires congregation, it
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inspires you know, just community, and I guess there's no
other way to say that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And let's just be honest. There's a lot of things that.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Aren't happening in our community anymore that we're not acknowledging.
So let's just segue that right into rest in Peace.
Malcolm Jamal Warner, who was definitely, you know, one of
the key figures in our culture that was recognized, revered
and highly respected from television to the poetry world to
(04:21):
the music world. You know, he was doing his own
podcast as well. Not all hood salute to that. You know,
we could talk about his many many years in television
from The Cosby Show all the way up to The Resident.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He always played.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Characters that embraced the better of our people, that always
you know, made.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Us look good. He was always very.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Deeply in tune with the idea of being a great
representation for his people, and he lived up to that
until he was no more. And as we heard or
it was announced late Sunday into Monday morning that at
the age of fifty four, even though some reported fifty three.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
He he passed away, which is odd.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's strange for me because I knew him.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, you know, I knew Malcolm and he uh, he
was just a wonderful, wonderful guy, you know, and you know,
he's the guy that every girl wanted to you know,
every girl's parents would want that kind of guy. That's
the guy you bring home. But he was also a brother,
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and he was also a supporter. And you know, I'll
never forget the last time I called him and we
lost touch right before I went you know, completely nuclear
on the end history and threw the middle fingers up.
But I had reached out to him because I was
(06:07):
trying to put together, you know, a gig with him,
Me and him and m Downby. We were going to
try to do a couple of cities. And you know,
he had the time, he was in between projects, and
that was I think like right before he was about
to get another TV show, and so it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And yeah, and that was that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But you know, throughout the years knowing him, I'll never
forget when you know, they they came after Cosby and
then they came after the Cosby Show. And you know
a lot of people don't like to take into consideration
that when they took that TV show away, there was
a lot of black people who performed on that show
who lost a lot of their you know, income, they
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lost all of their royalty. He's uh, it was no
longer playing, it was taken out, it was banned. It
was this. It was that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I mean, even the guy that played.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What was her name, the oldest daughters husband, yeah, Denise's husband.
It was Sondra, the oldest one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was Sondra's husband. And I can't remember what his
name is right now, and I feel bad for that.
Uh and and I'm sure we'll we'll figure that out
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sooner or later. But when they had reported someone that
reported on social media that they saw him working, and
I think it was something like home.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Depot and they're like, it won depot, it was at
home depot, it was.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
It was it was Trader Joe's and Joe's his name
was Elvin and but his real name was Jeffrey Owens.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Remember, yes, Jeffrey Owens. Got it.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He was working at Trader Joel's. And they shamed them
for that.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, and they were you know, they just went
in on him and nobody paid attention to. Part of
the reason why that was even necessary at his life
was because after the takedown of Bill Cosby, they took
down all of that revenue that you know, from all
of those black people that had absolutely nothing to do
(08:21):
with Bill Cosby or his cases. And I remember during
that time, Malcolm was working really hard. You know. I
would call him and speak with him from time to time.
You know, we weren't I won't say we were the
best of friends, but we were definitely good associates and acquaintances,
and we had great respect for each other's work.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He was a fabulous poet, and he appreciated me as
a writer and my music, and and he just he
was the kind of brother that, like I said, always
really looked out. So, you know, when I think about that,
like he was out that year, he was not playing
with Pilot season. He after that was going like he
(09:02):
was boomed. He was right back at it, you know,
And but he handled that with such grace. And I
don't think anybody realized how any of them, you know,
handled that. And now you you know, it's it's weird
to see people having all of this conversation about the
Cosmic show, about this, about that, and it's like, y'all
weren't talking about all of that when that happened, right right,
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you know what I mean, Like when that happened, nobody
was like, hey, we understand, you know, you guys want
to take the cause down, But what about Militua Shy,
what about you know, Lisebonet, what about you know what
about tempest Blood sool, Like, how is this affecting all
of these people? You know, the community didn't jump up
to protect them and what they had worked for and
(09:47):
what they had put into it. And it's like now
seeing everybody kind of like, oh my god, the cause
we show now that he's going, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean what do you.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Think now, Like you say, it's people are not looking
at the ramifications of everything that goes on, like it's
a ripple of fact. Just like you mentioned Jeffrey Owen,
Jeffrey Owen his situation.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And I have to think about it.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I was I was thinking about Malcolm Jamal Warner and uh,
you know, the the projects that he that he that
he's done. In fact, I got a film from the Home.
He's a local La legend. He did a thing called
King of the Underground and and Malcolm Jamal Warner did
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a cameo in his film.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
He's he was an independent film, like you know, like
I'm I was independent. He was independent. He came from
hip hop.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I forgot my guy's name, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got to reach out to him. But Malcolm just kind
of just showed up and like just gave him a cameo. Yeah,
if you look it up, it's a film called Kings
of the Underground. Shout out to my guy. This name
slipped my mind right now. I know I'll remember it
towards the end. But Malcolm was out there. Malcolm was
(11:11):
a good dude in no period.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like there are very few people like how people talk about,
you know, Tom Hanks being you know, the most likable
guy in Hollywood. You know, nobody ever talks about our
people like that. And if we had to have been someone,
I would have to say it was Malcolm. Like I
would definitely have to nominate him for most likable Black
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dude in the Hollywood game, in that industry. And he
really stayed away from the Hollywood WOODI woo and hoopla
and all of that, Like he really didn't. He was
a solid person. And you know, even now, you know,
he had moved to Atlanta, got married, you know, became
(11:55):
a father for the first time after all of these years,
and you know, he's just living in his life.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And you know it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't want to get too cheesy, and I don't
want to get too greasy either, but to see content
creators making money off of his final posts. Yeah, I
just thought that was kind of that was kind of
cheesy because it's not like it was something, you know,
for people who I don't know. And I guess that's
(12:27):
the hardest part about it, Like you wasn't following him
on social media like that. I don't ever remember seeing
any of these content creators who are literally sitting there
crashing out and just abusing his last social media posts
and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you're taking it, you're putting
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it up on your monetized channel, and you're getting all
of these likes and all of this engagement and all
of these subscribers and all of this everything. Were you
ever really a supporter of this man or anything that
he did.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Did you share any of.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
His TV shows where you showing clips of him from
any of this stuff? And now all of a sudden,
you know, I don't know why, but it's just content
creators have become like grave robbers to me, Like they
remind me of the people that wait for the family
to leave and then they go and then they pull
it back up and then they just strip the body
of anything of value to take it to the pawn shop,
(13:24):
Like it's just feeling that way to me. Now, I
don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm far.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But nope, nope, And you're right.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And not only they strip your goal, they'll get your
organs if you could like trust and believe, I guarantee
these same content creators if they could, I ain't gonna
go there. These people are disgusting. That's all I really
could say. Rest in peace to Malcolm Jamawana. Yeah, that
last video of him, and they exploited that as just sad.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It's a few content is to just grab that and
it's him talking about, you know, being positive and being
a blessing and yeah, yeah, and being a father and
just you know with his little flower that his daughter
gave him and you could tell she was still young,
you know, And it's and to I don't know, it's
just to me, like, I know how egregious this whole
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thing gets, you know, me even coming to YouTube to
fight for the ability of my name while people were
taking advantage of everything. They were literally going to my
Instagram Like if people realize that part of the reason
why I don't post like that on Instagram is because
of the content creators, because it's it's considered just open content.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, they're not content. They're not content creators. They're content robbers,
let's call they are.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Because you're not. You're not creating anything.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, you you were on Instagram even when I met you.
You were just doing your lives doing and people were
taking that and making me off of it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, not seeing a dying Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And nor do they contribute, and nor do they donate.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And the sad part is is that goes to show you,
you know, these aren't people who support people. These are
people who are looking to take advantage of people. And
I just want to say that everybody who's out there
doing that right now regarding Malcolm Jamal Warner regarding his content,
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like shame on you for real, Like, shame on you
because you're not. And it's crazy because it's all the
same kind of people that are nowhere near the kind
of person he was.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And it's always that way mm hmm. You.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But I guess they feel as though, you know, this
is a moment in time, they're gonna make some money.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know, the Diddy trial is over.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
There's not a lot of you know, people are fighting
for whatever, but it's it's still no excuse it's still
no excuse.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I mean you were saying.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, no, no, no, no no. I was just really is
just a rest in peace.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And and it's sad that this is where we're at
with the just the level of the bauchery when it
comes to a celebrity, Like celebrities could be uh, regular
people and and it's and well, they should have the
right to be regular and nobody trail them and them
(16:33):
down and all that I saw tm Z when when
when he passed, they were like, oh, yeah, well here
here's footage of him getting on the airport here airplane
going to coastort.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like god, like, did y'all Like what what were y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Y'all were following him up, like y'all if he had
a movie that dropped y'all probably wouldn't have promoted if
he dropped out.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't ever remember them promoting anything about him. And
that's what I'm talking about, like that vulture, like it's
all the last moments of him before he passed away,
like the fact that he wouldn't he refused to allow
his wife or his child's name to be released to
the public because of predatory people.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's just like this you know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, and it's like.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Again that that is that's that's sick, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, sick. Yeah, it's very sick because y'all weren't worried
about him, you know. But see this adds to how
they work, you know, how the media is working. And
that's why, you know, I think content creators like yourself
and myself, what we're doing with our blogs, with the
content that we release, the videos that we put up,
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we're creating a space where people can actually get actual,
real information and real intel without it being salacious, without
it being you know, all about how to how to
make a buck off of somebody. And you know, I
don't know how many times I've heard people say, oh, oh,
you know she she just sits online and she makes
(18:12):
money talking about people. Actually, no, I don't. Gee, I
really haven't made a lot of money. I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't do it for that.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. I mean, should me as a content creator, should
me as a journalist be able to make money from
the work that I do?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Absolutely? But the truth is that was never my goal.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, that was I.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Wanted to make sure that the people got the information.
And meanwhile, they like to talk about me. But they
don't ever want to hold any of these other outlets
or content creator so called whatever's you know what I mean,
They don't ever want to hold them responsible for the
way that they take advantage of media, how they take
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advantage of social media, how they take advantage of public figures,
their lives, their details, and use it to make money.
And meanwhile, you don't ever hear them promoting what these
people were really about. No, it's just that moment and
now here we are, the distraction has become completely confused.
TMZ don't know what to talk about, and now all
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of a sudden they got footage. The question is is
what law enforcement agency handed that over to you? Because
you were not following Malcolm Jamal Warner, which means you
you were able to get into either some kind of
TSA camera or something like How are these people always
Johnny on the spot and nobody's ever really calling them
out on it?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, we're calling them out on it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
And yeah, they should be ashamed of themselves, all those
content creators who are votures. You definitely should be ashamed
of yourself. And all I'm gonna say is rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, I the same to me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To me, it was weird, you know the second that
I heard about it, You remember what my reaction was.
And I was going to go live and I was
going to do an acknowledgment, and then I just started
watching and I started seeing everybody else was just and
it just made me sick. It made me sick, Like
to go through YouTube feed and to see him and
(20:22):
to see his posts and I'm like, this ain't his channel,
This ain't his YouTube channel, you know, like it just
for someone who knew him.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It made me sick.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And instantly, I'm like, you know what, Nah, I'm not
gonna I'm not going to post. I'm going to say
a prayer. I'm going to say a prayer for his family.
I'm going to keep it quiet, you know, and we'll
acknowledge it here in the pot.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But I'm not going to make this content. You know,
if the people.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That knew him and that actually had a real interaction
with him, anybody who had a real connection to him,
even fans who followed him, who posted him, who followed
him on social media, like for real, for real, it
should be his fans that should be pissed off at
these content creators that are running around Jack and the
content that he made specifically for them. They should be
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the people that really like his fans should be going
after every content creator like Yo Joe, he made those
posts for us. What you're doing making money off of it?
You never posted anything up? You wasn't in any other
days like these are the moments where fan bases really
need to step up and let people know the outrage
(21:33):
that they feel about people taking advantage of, you know,
people that they revered and that were beloved to them,
you know, but they don't do that. They don't do that.
They just like it and don't even pay attention to
what's really happening. Or maybe that's part of the reason
why it was necessary for us to have this conversation,
to hip these folks up on that so they know
(21:55):
what to look for and so they know what it's
really hitting for, you know, personally, me, I, I'm still
grappling with the notion of how he passed away.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I don't I don't. I don't
want to go deep off into that right now, but yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Know what, I'm not trying.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I'm not trying to do a deep dive into it.
What I am trying to get to the bottom of
is like that got to the news really fast. Yeah,
like we don't cover international news like that here, Like
I can't remember, like it just it got here really
(22:40):
really really fast.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And they said it happened on the twentieth Costa Rican time.
There was about two two pm in Costa Rica time.
So I guess where where they at, Costa Rica if
Costa Rica is like specific.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Almost right, yeah, Costa Rica, Central America.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but it hit like yeah that it
actually was like what two o'clock? Uh so yeah, so's
they're like an hour ahead, an hour ahead of a
specific standard and their hour or two hours behind New.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
York so like central time right eastern Eastern. I think
it's two two hours behind. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, hours behind.
But anyway, it's like.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It yeah like a bullet and I'm just like it
was it was an accidental drowning. I can't see why
the authorities would have been like I don't know, Like
that's the thing, Like it's not like he was there
working on a film. It's not like he was there
(23:58):
working on a movie. He was there on a private
family vacation.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's almost like the left eye thing.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, but left eye, Yeah, that's a whole other see,
Like I said, That's why I said, I don't want
to I don't want to dive into that just yet.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But yeah, I don't want to dive into it just yet.
But the simple fact that that news could make it
from a place where like it just it's not like
it was a plane crash. It's not like it was
a boat like. That's what I'm saying, Like, how did
how were they able to get the information, you know,
from the authorities there and it was labeled this like
(24:38):
how long was he out there in the water like?
And I think that's the thing that people really don't
pay attention to, how information gets to us, the way
it gets to us, and why that information. It would
have made more sense if we had heard about it
this weekend, you know what I mean, this coming weekend.
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But for that to happen, how long was he out there?
How long did it take for them to find him?
You know, he was pronounced like and then boom's aver
it and then boom they got the footage of him
on his way to Costa Rica, like It's it's like
they're sitting here marketing pain and marketing trauma, and nobody's
(25:23):
asking why.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Well, you already know my guy Annie.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
The shout out to the Spiritual Shade Room on ig
he was already on it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He said, he broke it down.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What did he say?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He broke it down and said, you know, it's blatant
blood sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Rituals of the elite.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I want to pass away today in accidental drowning with
limited details. He's known for us role in the Cosby Show,
theo Huxbo. He died at fifty four years of age.
The Cozi Show equals fifty four, and Jami Tree the
Jesuit order main number is fifty four. The sun Coat
Jesuit order is fifty four. Malcolm played the son of Cosby. Uh,
(26:10):
there's also some other stuff. He just went. He went
in though, but blood sacrifice was eighty six. Also accidental
drowning eighty six. He you know, he stays on it.
He stays on it. And I told him, I hear
him soon as I got this other news and we've
got some breaking news where Ozzie Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
He just recently passed away at seventy six years old,
and my guy already went I. I was like, I
already know you want it.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And he's like, I tweeted, he retweeted, So basically, yeah,
he just dropped this on the Spiritual share Room on
ig Ozzy Osborne was born December third, nineteen forty eight.
Died July twenty second. Osborne himself is two oh one
(26:57):
and one one is the Jesuit Order, Uh, Malcolm, and
he's talking about Malcolm Jamal Warner. Death came on this
two hundred and first day of the year and the
Cosby Show had two hundred and one episodes. He dies
on the final He dies on the first day of
(27:19):
the final one hundred and sixty three days of the year,
matching the Jamatria for the Osbornes, which equals one to
sixty three. And he also died in the one hundred
and sixty third week in his In his one hundred
and sixty third week, I guess thrown this one sixty
third week was a June thirteen, twenty twenty two, spinal surgery,
(27:42):
the same surgery many speculated marked his decline because I
obviously I was looking at it and I was like, yeah,
I've been.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I was seeing Ozzy Osborne in the news on my.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Little feeds just just out of nowhere for the past
few months, and I was like, Okay, yeah, something something's up,
something's going to happen. But yeah, you know again, here's
another thing. Let me just go into real real quick
about Ozzy Osbourne. Uh, whether he had that one album
in nineteen eighty called The Blizzard of Oz had songs
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like Crazy Train and mister Crowley, uh, submitting him right,
submitting his reputation as rock's prince of darkness. So in
his early years, people, you know, they remember him from
Black Sabbath, they remember him.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Biting the head off of bat.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
But during a live show, Ozzi he bit the head
off of what he thought was.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
A rubber bat, but it turned out to be real.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
But what's less publicized is that later that same tour
he accidentally bit into a live pigeon.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh I thought it was a chicken.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, it was a live pigeon. Yeah. We talked about
it and he got.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Fine and and uh in London for that.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You know, you get fined for stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You want to know what interesting he got fined for it?
And yet they're putting you know, people into mental hospitals
for far less and without any real evidence of mania
or like because that that just sounds like mania. It
(29:27):
sounds like like you're you're you're literally sitting there biting
into a living thing to unlive it in front of
an audience like that.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
It's a it's it's I guess it's okay.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It's a sacrifice if you really think about it was
a sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, it's definitely a sacrifice and you're offering real live
b l o o D.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, so it's like that said b l o o D.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You know, like you said one blood blood blood like
Englewood and blood blood.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No, but no, seriously, it's just that sounds that you know,
you know what I mean. It's just funny how when
certain people do certain things they get totally passed over
as eccentricity, and then other people do certain things and
it's passed off as mania and you need to be
put in the hospital. You know, it's just wild to me,
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like the stuff that they get away with. But once again,
you know, there are certain things that are celebrated in
pop culture that we don't even ask why, We just
we just ride with it. We just let it all rock.
And I don't know, I think people need to really
start just getting real with themselves like this is, and
(30:55):
we welcome them all into our homes. We watched their
you know, the reality TV shows when we saw all
kinds of stuff going on, and we don't ever question
any of this. So here you have one of the
most wholesome characters on television and then one of the
most like out there in say characters, and they pass
(31:21):
away within forty eight hours of one another, and it's
it's just interesting.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I mean, yeah, I'll say rest in peace to him too,
even though you know, I mean, I ain't gonna lie.
I didn't know too much about Ozzie until, of course
I knew about Black Sabbath, but then I didn't really
know about him.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Until the the reality show.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So well, I used to love Black Sabbath Records until
I went when I was younger, and I studied why
they called it Black Sabbath, and it was because they
were cursing.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, they were, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Were literally cursing God.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I'm like, oh wow, it was it was the
whole idea of the band. And then now you have
these other rockers coming out what's the name of the
uh not Alison.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Change, Allison changed, not changed.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Not Alison, I said Chains, I said change. I didn't
say changed. You said no, you got me all messed up.
That's not what I said. But if that's how it sounded,
my apologies, Alison Chains. I'm trying to remember which one
of them it was or wasn't Metallica that said that
they were using their music as a gateway to Satanism,
(32:44):
like they actually admitted it. That's what it was for.
I'm trying to think wasn't Metallica? I can't remember which
fan it was. But we got to ask ourselves, you know,
why don't we ask more questions about the stuff that
we listen to. When I first saw them trying to
(33:04):
find a way to make the Osborns more marketable in
pop culture, I was like, Okay, I see what's going
on here. And you know, we choose who let into
our homes. And once again, this is no slight on anyone,
and I'm sure the family they're going through it, and
(33:28):
we send the markendolences. But the question is, you know,
when you spend your whole entire life creating these these
satanic rituals, you know, who's to say that this is
considered a bad thing for them. I'm just saying I'm
(33:49):
not saying it to be cruel or saying it to
be This is what they believe in.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
These are the things that they practice.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So I just think that it's wise for everyone to,
you know, off of your condolences.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
If you would.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
But but we probably should just mind our business because
we don't understand true ramifications about what's going on with
these kinds of figures.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's uh, you know, it's a lot, and it's just
it's funny, you know, we lose one for the good
guys and one for the bad guys all at the
same time. Yeah, it's kind of like what it's just
had duality. But Charlatan Ani for for throwing, for throwing
the spiritual shade on it and giving us an idea
(34:35):
of possibly what's really going on in the background.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, I'll tell you one thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
There's gonna be a lot of insurance policies sketched out
this coming uh, these coming weeks.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yep, and what we're gonna do is gonna wrap it. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
But but yeah, you were saying the band, the band
was Slayer that was saying okayla, And then I remember
Slayer from Just the Beavis and butter Head days, the
gate way to Satanism due.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
To their uh uh imagery, my apology Metallic.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, you know Metallica's dope d of the Sandman. But yeah,
they they they're the ones. And like I said, I
had a buddy who was in the industry, and he
was talking about, you know, these inverted crosses and all
that stuff. Penterground they do that, they do that. People
are real wicked. People are real wicked.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Now, Alice Coop is another one. Alice Cooper schools out
for summer.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Speaking of wicked, Uh, let's let's end it on this note.
There's a Texas woman facing charges after investigators say she
plotted to murder her ex husband by sending him a
box of chocolates laced with Fitton note uh they so.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
The Parker County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Initiated their investigation after a source alleged that sixty three
year old Pamela Jean Stanley had wanted to kill her husband,
who had recently become engaged. God these women cannot see
a man happy anyway, investigator said.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Stanley was recorded.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Stanley was recorded saying she wanted to buy and inject
fintannel into a box of chocolates and senator ex She
also planned to make the chocolates appear as if they
were a congratulatory gift from a travel company along with
the honeymoon promotion.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
This is what the Sheriff's state.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Undercover agents with the Office of Special Crimes. They convinced
Stanley to meet them to buy fintanel in the parking
lot of a motel in Coleman, Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So they got worried she was cooking.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, she she she had possession of nine point five
grams of the medthand stuff for stuff, you know. And
she's been indicted for it a criminal solicitation with the
intent to commit the M word and criminal attempt to
commit the n were and possession of a controlled subtance
with the intent to deliver geez.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Okay, and she's sixty three sixty two.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
She she looked like she looked like Heather Smocklier. Okay,
for those who know she.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Looked that probably that was that lady that it looks
like that lady that was trying to sell me that.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
That that you're trying to sell you more than a
than a taste.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That bottle of Uncle Nere's.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
And yeah, but now, yeah she looked crazy. She I mean,
I mean, shout out to the husband, the ex husband
for getting engaged and getting away from it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Oh man, I don't know, I just what do you
have to say about that?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well? First things first, that was a very elaborate plot
and elaborate scheme. You're gonna try to take this couple
out with a box of chocolates. Life is like a
box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get,
(38:27):
and and you were going to make it seem like
it came from a travel company trying to do some
kind of promotion for the honeymoon. Like that's a lot,
that's a lot. The question is is how did the
cops find out about it? And who didn't tell this too?
(38:51):
Who did you tell this to? Like she didn't like
come on like because this was a this was a
sting operation.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
How did the cops know? That's a good question. How
did this get on their radar?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Like exactly?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Because that means in order for it to have gotten
on your radar, they would have had to gotten information
from someone who was considered a credible enough source to say, hey,
this woman is playing this for them to be able
to go in and do a sting to get her
to admit that this is what she would like.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Come on, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
That's a lot like that. The when I think about
the law and how the law be playing and all
of the stuff that they be doing, that's the first
question that comes to my mind. Who was the one
that ratted her out to the cops and who was
she running around running her mouth to.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Because that don't sound.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Like somebody that's working on all of them cylinders, no,
like yet, that's a very very very elaborate plot that
seems like something that she probably got off a lifetime movie.
Is something so like, I don't know, I gotta ask
questions about the police on this one.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Y'all, y'all went through all of this trouble to trap
this woman up. Well, who's the who was the lead?
Who's your ci, who's your snitch? What was it the FENONYL.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Diller?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Good question, because that's what it's starting to sound like.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's sounding like you got it from somebody who was
rocking off in that community to begin with. That's what
it sounds like. So the question is who y'all letting operate?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Who?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well who?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Another unfiltered conversation about mourning legends and fitanel in your chocolate.
Life is like a boxer, No, it ain't not, not
like a lot of box for her.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
She fotherows gumtoe way into a triple life sentence is
what she did the way into commissary and and uh,
you know, walk in the yard.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
She it's it's man.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't know why, but it just feels like there's
gonna be more to this story. It feels like there's
a lot more to this story. And there's an older
white woman too.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
It's Oranges. The New Black meets freaking breaking Bad, all right.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Meets Breaking Bad, you mean meets the Golden Girls.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Oh damn, thank you for being a fiend. And I
thank you for being.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
A friend, Gez, thank you for being a fiend.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
You a mess?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
All right? All right, I think we're up out of
here though. Let's go that's that.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Oh my god, the world is really going crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
It is
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Crazy, but we put it all on Front Street, all right,
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's all on French Dreams.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yep, all on funch Free. Yeah, I just love it.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Beat this beat, just this beat, just does it like
hip hop people?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How much more people knew what that meant? This is
hip hop?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know. It's just watching the world and seeing how
like people have mistaken our culture for a pop culture.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And it's not the same.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's not the same, No, not at all. It's it's
it's a feel, it's it's.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
You know, y'all know what it is. If you know
hip hop, you know it. You can't even explain it.
It's like trying to explain God. That's like, you know,
it's come.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
On, that's an interesting way of putting.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
We are all on front, all on no for real,
you got it. You gotta experience it. You gotta have
God in you to know to know God.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Let's just get absolutely absolutely. It's funny because like different
people have different you know, spiritual experiences like shout out
to me and mc glover and everyone. Please make sure
that you run out and either get you a digital
or a physical or an audible version of Tell the
Truth Ton new book.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's really amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But even we were talking about the House Movement and
how you know, people keep forgetting like what a spiritual
experience the House Movement was. And you know, there's certain
parts of our culture, our music, our history where you
feel closer to God. It's just it brings you right there.
So you know, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Can't just say it's just hip hop.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know. It's just what the funny thing is is
all of these you know, God driven you know, emotions
and stuff that we have tend to all come from
music that derives from our people.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
God pe people there it is because what I'm saying
is what other music or that that's that's globally that's
out there like that that people.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Are rushing to play or be a part of.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You really don't hear nobody running around saying, hey, we're chilling,
let's put on a put on an afro beats, you
know what I mean? Like you either gonna play some
some old school Aliyah, You're gonna play some old school
hip hop, you go. I mean, I mean, I'm just
keeping it a buck, that's all. And maybe I'm a
little biased, but you really and not hearing people all we're.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Gonna play that. Let's play some Sosa, Let's let's play
you know now they well.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I mean those don't get me wrong, All of those
different genres of music. They inspire a certain vibe, but
not just where where people really come together like it.
But it's the same thing with gospel music, you know
what I mean, there's this everything that that comes from
our in our true indigenous people. It inspires congregation, it
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inspires you know, just community, and I guess there's no
other way to say that.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And let's just be honest. There's a lot of things that.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Aren't happening in our community anymore that we're not acknowledging.
So let's just segue that right into rest in Peace.
Malcolm Jamal Warner, who was definitely, you know, one of
the key figures in our culture that was recognized, revered
and highly respected from television to the poetry world to
(04:21):
the music world. You know, he was doing his own
podcast as well. Not all hood salute to that. You know,
we could talk about his many many years in television
from The Cosby Show all the way up to The Resident.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He always played.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Characters that embraced the better of our people, that always
you know, made.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Us look good. He was always very.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Deeply in tune with the idea of being a great
representation for his people, and he lived up to that
until he was no more. And as we heard or
it was announced late Sunday into Monday morning that at
the age of fifty four, even though some reported fifty three.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
He he passed away, which is odd.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It's strange for me because I knew him.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, you know, I knew Malcolm and he uh, he
was just a wonderful, wonderful guy, you know, and you know,
he's the guy that every girl wanted to you know,
every girl's parents would want that kind of guy. That's
the guy you bring home. But he was also a brother,
(05:47):
and he was also a supporter. And you know, I'll
never forget the last time I called him and we
lost touch right before I went you know, completely nuclear
on the end history and threw the middle fingers up.
But I had reached out to him because I was
(06:07):
trying to put together, you know, a gig with him,
Me and him and m Downby. We were going to
try to do a couple of cities. And you know,
he had the time, he was in between projects, and
that was I think like right before he was about
to get another TV show, and so it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And yeah, and that was that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But you know, throughout the years knowing him, I'll never
forget when you know, they they came after Cosby and
then they came after the Cosby Show. And you know
a lot of people don't like to take into consideration
that when they took that TV show away, there was
a lot of black people who performed on that show
who lost a lot of their you know, income, they
(06:58):
lost all of their royalty. He's uh, it was no
longer playing, it was taken out, it was banned. It
was this. It was that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I mean, even the guy that played.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What was her name, the oldest daughters husband, yeah, Denise's husband.
It was Sondra, the oldest one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was Sondra's husband. And I can't remember what his
name is right now, and I feel bad for that.
Uh and and I'm sure we'll we'll figure that out
(07:31):
sooner or later. But when they had reported someone that
reported on social media that they saw him working, and
I think it was something like home.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Depot and they're like, it won depot, it was at
home depot, it was.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
It was it was Trader Joe's and Joe's his name
was Elvin and but his real name was Jeffrey Owens.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Remember, yes, Jeffrey Owens. Got it.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
He was working at Trader Joel's. And they shamed them
for that.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, and they were you know, they just went
in on him and nobody paid attention to. Part of
the reason why that was even necessary at his life
was because after the takedown of Bill Cosby, they took
down all of that revenue that you know, from all
of those black people that had absolutely nothing to do
(08:21):
with Bill Cosby or his cases. And I remember during
that time, Malcolm was working really hard. You know. I
would call him and speak with him from time to time.
You know, we weren't I won't say we were the
best of friends, but we were definitely good associates and acquaintances,
and we had great respect for each other's work.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He was a fabulous poet, and he appreciated me as
a writer and my music, and and he just he
was the kind of brother that, like I said, always
really looked out. So, you know, when I think about that,
like he was out that year, he was not playing
with Pilot season. He after that was going like he
(09:02):
was boomed. He was right back at it, you know,
And but he handled that with such grace. And I
don't think anybody realized how any of them, you know,
handled that. And now you you know, it's it's weird
to see people having all of this conversation about the
Cosmic show, about this, about that, and it's like, y'all
weren't talking about all of that when that happened, right right,
(09:26):
you know what I mean, Like when that happened, nobody
was like, hey, we understand, you know, you guys want
to take the cause down, But what about Militua Shy,
what about you know, Lisebonet, what about you know what
about tempest Blood sool, Like, how is this affecting all
of these people? You know, the community didn't jump up
to protect them and what they had worked for and
(09:47):
what they had put into it. And it's like now
seeing everybody kind of like, oh my god, the cause
we show now that he's going, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean what do you.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Think now, Like you say, it's people are not looking
at the ramifications of everything that goes on, like it's
a ripple of fact. Just like you mentioned Jeffrey Owen,
Jeffrey Owen his situation.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And I have to think about it.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I was I was thinking about Malcolm Jamal Warner and uh,
you know, the the projects that he that he that
he's done. In fact, I got a film from the Home.
He's a local La legend. He did a thing called
King of the Underground and and Malcolm Jamal Warner did
(10:42):
a cameo in his film.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
He's he was an independent film, like you know, like
I'm I was independent. He was independent. He came from
hip hop.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I forgot my guy's name, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I
got to reach out to him. But Malcolm just kind
of just showed up and like just gave him a cameo. Yeah,
if you look it up, it's a film called Kings
of the Underground. Shout out to my guy. This name
slipped my mind right now. I know I'll remember it
towards the end. But Malcolm was out there. Malcolm was
(11:11):
a good dude in no period.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like there are very few people like how people talk about,
you know, Tom Hanks being you know, the most likable
guy in Hollywood. You know, nobody ever talks about our
people like that. And if we had to have been someone,
I would have to say it was Malcolm. Like I
would definitely have to nominate him for most likable Black
(11:34):
dude in the Hollywood game, in that industry. And he
really stayed away from the Hollywood WOODI woo and hoopla
and all of that, Like he really didn't. He was
a solid person. And you know, even now, you know,
he had moved to Atlanta, got married, you know, became
(11:55):
a father for the first time after all of these years,
and you know, he's just living in his life.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And you know it.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't want to get too cheesy, and I don't
want to get too greasy either, but to see content
creators making money off of his final posts. Yeah, I
just thought that was kind of that was kind of
cheesy because it's not like it was something, you know,
for people who I don't know. And I guess that's
(12:27):
the hardest part about it, Like you wasn't following him
on social media like that. I don't ever remember seeing
any of these content creators who are literally sitting there
crashing out and just abusing his last social media posts
and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you're taking it, you're putting
(12:50):
it up on your monetized channel, and you're getting all
of these likes and all of this engagement and all
of these subscribers and all of this everything. Were you
ever really a supporter of this man or anything that
he did.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Did you share any of.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
His TV shows where you showing clips of him from
any of this stuff? And now all of a sudden,
you know, I don't know why, but it's just content
creators have become like grave robbers to me, Like they
remind me of the people that wait for the family
to leave and then they go and then they pull
it back up and then they just strip the body
of anything of value to take it to the pawn shop,
(13:24):
Like it's just feeling that way to me. Now, I
don't know, maybe I'm maybe I'm far.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
But nope, nope, And you're right.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And not only they strip your goal, they'll get your
organs if you could like trust and believe, I guarantee
these same content creators if they could, I ain't gonna
go there. These people are disgusting. That's all I really
could say. Rest in peace to Malcolm Jamawana. Yeah, that
last video of him, and they exploited that as just sad.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
It's a few content is to just grab that and
it's him talking about, you know, being positive and being
a blessing and yeah, yeah, and being a father and
just you know with his little flower that his daughter
gave him and you could tell she was still young,
you know, And it's and to I don't know, it's
just to me, like, I know how egregious this whole
(14:21):
thing gets, you know, me even coming to YouTube to
fight for the ability of my name while people were
taking advantage of everything. They were literally going to my
Instagram Like if people realize that part of the reason
why I don't post like that on Instagram is because
of the content creators, because it's it's considered just open content.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No, they're not content. They're not content creators. They're content robbers,
let's call they are.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Because you're not. You're not creating anything.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, you you were on Instagram even when I met you.
You were just doing your lives doing and people were
taking that and making me off of it.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, not seeing a dying Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And nor do they contribute, and nor do they donate.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And the sad part is is that goes to show you,
you know, these aren't people who support people. These are
people who are looking to take advantage of people. And
I just want to say that everybody who's out there
doing that right now regarding Malcolm Jamal Warner regarding his content,
(15:28):
like shame on you for real, Like, shame on you
because you're not. And it's crazy because it's all the
same kind of people that are nowhere near the kind
of person he was.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And it's always that way mm hmm. You.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
But I guess they feel as though, you know, this
is a moment in time, they're gonna make some money.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You know, the Diddy trial is over.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
There's not a lot of you know, people are fighting
for whatever, but it's it's still no excuse it's still
no excuse.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I mean you were saying.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, no, no, no, no no. I was just really is
just a rest in peace.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And and it's sad that this is where we're at
with the just the level of the bauchery when it
comes to a celebrity, Like celebrities could be uh, regular
people and and it's and well, they should have the
right to be regular and nobody trail them and them
(16:33):
down and all that I saw tm Z when when
when he passed, they were like, oh, yeah, well here
here's footage of him getting on the airport here airplane
going to coastort.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like god, like, did y'all Like what what were y'all doing?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Y'all were following him up, like y'all if he had
a movie that dropped y'all probably wouldn't have promoted if
he dropped out.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't ever remember them promoting anything about him. And
that's what I'm talking about, like that vulture, like it's
all the last moments of him before he passed away,
like the fact that he wouldn't he refused to allow
his wife or his child's name to be released to
the public because of predatory people.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's just like this you know.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, and it's like.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Again that that is that's that's sick, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, sick. Yeah, it's very sick because y'all weren't worried
about him, you know. But see this adds to how
they work, you know, how the media is working. And
that's why, you know, I think content creators like yourself
and myself, what we're doing with our blogs, with the
content that we release, the videos that we put up,
(17:50):
we're creating a space where people can actually get actual,
real information and real intel without it being salacious, without
it being you know, all about how to how to
make a buck off of somebody. And you know, I
don't know how many times I've heard people say, oh, oh,
you know she she just sits online and she makes
(18:12):
money talking about people. Actually, no, I don't. Gee, I
really haven't made a lot of money. I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't do it for that.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. I mean, should me as a content creator, should
me as a journalist be able to make money from
the work that I do?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Absolutely? But the truth is that was never my goal.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, that was I.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Wanted to make sure that the people got the information.
And meanwhile, they like to talk about me. But they
don't ever want to hold any of these other outlets
or content creator so called whatever's you know what I mean,
They don't ever want to hold them responsible for the
way that they take advantage of media, how they take
(18:55):
advantage of social media, how they take advantage of public figures,
their lives, their details, and use it to make money.
And meanwhile, you don't ever hear them promoting what these
people were really about. No, it's just that moment and
now here we are, the distraction has become completely confused.
TMZ don't know what to talk about, and now all
(19:17):
of a sudden they got footage. The question is is
what law enforcement agency handed that over to you? Because
you were not following Malcolm Jamal Warner, which means you
you were able to get into either some kind of
TSA camera or something like How are these people always
Johnny on the spot and nobody's ever really calling them
out on it?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, we're calling them out on it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
And yeah, they should be ashamed of themselves, all those
content creators who are votures. You definitely should be ashamed
of yourself. And all I'm gonna say is rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, I the same to me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To me, it was weird, you know the second that
I heard about it, You remember what my reaction was.
And I was going to go live and I was
going to do an acknowledgment, and then I just started
watching and I started seeing everybody else was just and
it just made me sick. It made me sick, Like
to go through YouTube feed and to see him and
(20:22):
to see his posts and I'm like, this ain't his channel,
This ain't his YouTube channel, you know, like it just
for someone who knew him.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It made me sick.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And instantly, I'm like, you know what, Nah, I'm not
gonna I'm not going to post. I'm going to say
a prayer. I'm going to say a prayer for his family.
I'm going to keep it quiet, you know, and we'll
acknowledge it here in the pot.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But I'm not going to make this content. You know,
if the people.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That knew him and that actually had a real interaction
with him, anybody who had a real connection to him,
even fans who followed him, who posted him, who followed
him on social media, like for real, for real, it
should be his fans that should be pissed off at
these content creators that are running around Jack and the
content that he made specifically for them. They should be
(21:13):
the people that really like his fans should be going
after every content creator like Yo Joe, he made those
posts for us. What you're doing making money off of it?
You never posted anything up? You wasn't in any other
days like these are the moments where fan bases really
need to step up and let people know the outrage
(21:33):
that they feel about people taking advantage of, you know,
people that they revered and that were beloved to them,
you know, but they don't do that. They don't do that.
They just like it and don't even pay attention to
what's really happening. Or maybe that's part of the reason
why it was necessary for us to have this conversation,
to hip these folks up on that so they know
(21:55):
what to look for and so they know what it's
really hitting for, you know, personally, me, I, I'm still
grappling with the notion of how he passed away.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I don't I don't. I don't
want to go deep off into that right now, but yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Know what, I'm not trying.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I'm not trying to do a deep dive into it.
What I am trying to get to the bottom of
is like that got to the news really fast. Yeah,
like we don't cover international news like that here, Like
I can't remember, like it just it got here really
(22:40):
really really fast.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And they said it happened on the twentieth Costa Rican time.
There was about two two pm in Costa Rica time.
So I guess where where they at, Costa Rica if
Costa Rica is like specific.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Almost right, yeah, Costa Rica, Central America.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Okay, yeah, yeah, but it hit like yeah that it
actually was like what two o'clock? Uh so yeah, so's
they're like an hour ahead, an hour ahead of a
specific standard and their hour or two hours behind New.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
York so like central time right eastern Eastern. I think
it's two two hours behind. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, hours behind.
But anyway, it's like.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It yeah like a bullet and I'm just like it
was it was an accidental drowning. I can't see why
the authorities would have been like I don't know, Like
that's the thing, Like it's not like he was there
working on a film. It's not like he was there
(23:58):
working on a movie. He was there on a private
family vacation.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's almost like the left eye thing.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, but left eye, Yeah, that's a whole other see,
Like I said, That's why I said, I don't want
to I don't want to dive into that just yet.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But yeah, I don't want to dive into it just yet.
But the simple fact that that news could make it
from a place where like it just it's not like
it was a plane crash. It's not like it was
a boat like. That's what I'm saying, Like, how did
how were they able to get the information, you know,
from the authorities there and it was labeled this like
(24:38):
how long was he out there in the water like?
And I think that's the thing that people really don't
pay attention to, how information gets to us, the way
it gets to us, and why that information. It would
have made more sense if we had heard about it
this weekend, you know what I mean, this coming weekend.
(25:00):
But for that to happen, how long was he out there?
How long did it take for them to find him?
You know, he was pronounced like and then boom's aver
it and then boom they got the footage of him
on his way to Costa Rica, like It's it's like
they're sitting here marketing pain and marketing trauma, and nobody's
(25:23):
asking why.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Well, you already know my guy Annie.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
The shout out to the Spiritual Shade Room on ig
he was already on it.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
He said, he broke it down.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
What did he say?
Speaker 4 (25:39):
He broke it down and said, you know, it's blatant
blood sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Rituals of the elite.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I want to pass away today in accidental drowning with
limited details. He's known for us role in the Cosby Show,
theo Huxbo. He died at fifty four years of age.
The Cozi Show equals fifty four, and Jami Tree the
Jesuit order main number is fifty four. The sun Coat
Jesuit order is fifty four. Malcolm played the son of Cosby. Uh,
(26:10):
there's also some other stuff. He just went. He went
in though, but blood sacrifice was eighty six. Also accidental
drowning eighty six. He you know, he stays on it.
He stays on it. And I told him, I hear
him soon as I got this other news and we've
got some breaking news where Ozzie Osbourne.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
He just recently passed away at seventy six years old,
and my guy already went I. I was like, I
already know you want it.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And he's like, I tweeted, he retweeted, So basically, yeah,
he just dropped this on the Spiritual share Room on
ig Ozzy Osborne was born December third, nineteen forty eight.
Died July twenty second. Osborne himself is two oh one
(26:57):
and one one is the Jesuit Order, Uh, Malcolm, and
he's talking about Malcolm Jamal Warner. Death came on this
two hundred and first day of the year and the
Cosby Show had two hundred and one episodes. He dies
on the final He dies on the first day of
(27:19):
the final one hundred and sixty three days of the year,
matching the Jamatria for the Osbornes, which equals one to
sixty three. And he also died in the one hundred
and sixty third week in his In his one hundred
and sixty third week, I guess thrown this one sixty
third week was a June thirteen, twenty twenty two, spinal surgery,
(27:42):
the same surgery many speculated marked his decline because I
obviously I was looking at it and I was like, yeah,
I've been.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I was seeing Ozzy Osborne in the news on my.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Little feeds just just out of nowhere for the past
few months, and I was like, Okay, yeah, something something's up,
something's going to happen. But yeah, you know again, here's
another thing. Let me just go into real real quick
about Ozzy Osbourne. Uh, whether he had that one album
in nineteen eighty called The Blizzard of Oz had songs
(28:18):
like Crazy Train and mister Crowley, uh, submitting him right,
submitting his reputation as rock's prince of darkness. So in
his early years, people, you know, they remember him from
Black Sabbath, they remember him.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Biting the head off of bat.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
But during a live show, Ozzi he bit the head
off of what he thought was.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
A rubber bat, but it turned out to be real.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
But what's less publicized is that later that same tour
he accidentally bit into a live pigeon.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Oh I thought it was a chicken.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, it was a live pigeon. Yeah. We talked about
it and he got.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Fine and and uh in London for that.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You know, you get fined for stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You want to know what interesting he got fined for it?
And yet they're putting you know, people into mental hospitals
for far less and without any real evidence of mania
or like because that that just sounds like mania. It
(29:27):
sounds like like you're you're you're literally sitting there biting
into a living thing to unlive it in front of
an audience like that.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
It's a it's it's I guess it's okay.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
It's a sacrifice if you really think about it was
a sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, it's definitely a sacrifice and you're offering real live
b l o o D.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, so it's like that said b l o o D.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You know, like you said one blood blood blood like
Englewood and blood blood.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
No, but no, seriously, it's just that sounds that you know,
you know what I mean. It's just funny how when
certain people do certain things they get totally passed over
as eccentricity, and then other people do certain things and
it's passed off as mania and you need to be
put in the hospital. You know, it's just wild to me,
(30:31):
like the stuff that they get away with. But once again,
you know, there are certain things that are celebrated in
pop culture that we don't even ask why, We just
we just ride with it. We just let it all rock.
And I don't know, I think people need to really
start just getting real with themselves like this is, and
(30:55):
we welcome them all into our homes. We watched their
you know, the reality TV shows when we saw all
kinds of stuff going on, and we don't ever question
any of this. So here you have one of the
most wholesome characters on television and then one of the
most like out there in say characters, and they pass
(31:21):
away within forty eight hours of one another, and it's
it's just interesting.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I mean, yeah, I'll say rest in peace to him too,
even though you know, I mean, I ain't gonna lie.
I didn't know too much about Ozzie until, of course
I knew about Black Sabbath, but then I didn't really
know about him.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Until the the reality show.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So well, I used to love Black Sabbath Records until
I went when I was younger, and I studied why
they called it Black Sabbath, and it was because they
were cursing.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, they were, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Were literally cursing God.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I'm like, oh wow, it was it was the
whole idea of the band. And then now you have
these other rockers coming out what's the name of the
uh not Alison.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Change, Allison changed, not changed.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Not Alison, I said Chains, I said change. I didn't
say changed. You said no, you got me all messed up.
That's not what I said. But if that's how it sounded,
my apologies, Alison Chains. I'm trying to remember which one
of them it was or wasn't Metallica that said that
they were using their music as a gateway to Satanism,
(32:44):
like they actually admitted it. That's what it was for.
I'm trying to think wasn't Metallica? I can't remember which
fan it was. But we got to ask ourselves, you know,
why don't we ask more questions about the stuff that
we listen to. When I first saw them trying to
(33:04):
find a way to make the Osborns more marketable in
pop culture, I was like, Okay, I see what's going
on here. And you know, we choose who let into
our homes. And once again, this is no slight on anyone,
and I'm sure the family they're going through it, and
(33:28):
we send the markendolences. But the question is, you know,
when you spend your whole entire life creating these these
satanic rituals, you know, who's to say that this is
considered a bad thing for them. I'm just saying I'm
(33:49):
not saying it to be cruel or saying it to
be This is what they believe in.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
These are the things that they practice.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So I just think that it's wise for everyone to,
you know, off of your condolences.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
If you would.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
But but we probably should just mind our business because
we don't understand true ramifications about what's going on with
these kinds of figures.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's uh, you know, it's a lot, and it's just
it's funny, you know, we lose one for the good
guys and one for the bad guys all at the
same time. Yeah, it's kind of like what it's just
had duality. But Charlatan Ani for for throwing, for throwing
the spiritual shade on it and giving us an idea
(34:35):
of possibly what's really going on in the background.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, I'll tell you one thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
There's gonna be a lot of insurance policies sketched out
this coming uh, these coming weeks.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yep, and what we're gonna do is gonna wrap it. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
But but yeah, you were saying the band, the band
was Slayer that was saying okayla, And then I remember
Slayer from Just the Beavis and butter Head days, the
gate way to Satanism due.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
To their uh uh imagery, my apology Metallic.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, you know Metallica's dope d of the Sandman. But yeah,
they they they're the ones. And like I said, I
had a buddy who was in the industry, and he
was talking about, you know, these inverted crosses and all
that stuff. Penterground they do that, they do that. People
are real wicked. People are real wicked.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Now, Alice Coop is another one. Alice Cooper schools out
for summer.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Speaking of wicked, Uh, let's let's end it on this note.
There's a Texas woman facing charges after investigators say she
plotted to murder her ex husband by sending him a
box of chocolates laced with Fitton note uh they so.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
The Parker County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Initiated their investigation after a source alleged that sixty three
year old Pamela Jean Stanley had wanted to kill her husband,
who had recently become engaged. God these women cannot see
a man happy anyway, investigator said.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Stanley was recorded.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Stanley was recorded saying she wanted to buy and inject
fintannel into a box of chocolates and senator ex She
also planned to make the chocolates appear as if they
were a congratulatory gift from a travel company along with
the honeymoon promotion.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
This is what the Sheriff's state.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Undercover agents with the Office of Special Crimes. They convinced
Stanley to meet them to buy fintanel in the parking
lot of a motel in Coleman, Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
So they got worried she was cooking.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, she she she had possession of nine point five
grams of the medthand stuff for stuff, you know. And
she's been indicted for it a criminal solicitation with the
intent to commit the M word and criminal attempt to
commit the n were and possession of a controlled subtance
with the intent to deliver geez.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Okay, and she's sixty three sixty two.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
She she looked like she looked like Heather Smocklier. Okay,
for those who know she.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Looked that probably that was that lady that it looks
like that lady that was trying to sell me that.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
That that you're trying to sell you more than a
than a taste.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
That bottle of Uncle Nere's.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
And yeah, but now, yeah she looked crazy. She I mean,
I mean, shout out to the husband, the ex husband
for getting engaged and getting away from it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Oh man, I don't know, I just what do you
have to say about that?
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well? First things first, that was a very elaborate plot
and elaborate scheme. You're gonna try to take this couple
out with a box of chocolates. Life is like a
box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get,
(38:27):
and and you were going to make it seem like
it came from a travel company trying to do some
kind of promotion for the honeymoon. Like that's a lot,
that's a lot. The question is is how did the
cops find out about it? And who didn't tell this too?
(38:51):
Who did you tell this to? Like she didn't like
come on like because this was a this was a
sting operation.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
How did the cops know? That's a good question. How
did this get on their radar?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Like exactly?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Because that means in order for it to have gotten
on your radar, they would have had to gotten information
from someone who was considered a credible enough source to say, hey,
this woman is playing this for them to be able
to go in and do a sting to get her
to admit that this is what she would like.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Come on, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
That's a lot like that. The when I think about
the law and how the law be playing and all
of the stuff that they be doing, that's the first
question that comes to my mind. Who was the one
that ratted her out to the cops and who was
she running around running her mouth to.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Because that don't sound.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Like somebody that's working on all of them cylinders, no,
like yet, that's a very very very elaborate plot that
seems like something that she probably got off a lifetime movie.
Is something so like, I don't know, I gotta ask
questions about the police on this one.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Y'all, y'all went through all of this trouble to trap
this woman up. Well, who's the who was the lead?
Who's your ci, who's your snitch? What was it the FENONYL.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Diller?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Good question, because that's what it's starting to sound like.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's sounding like you got it from somebody who was
rocking off in that community to begin with. That's what
it sounds like. So the question is who y'all letting operate?
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Who?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Well who?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Another unfiltered conversation about mourning legends and fitanel in your chocolate.
Life is like a boxer, No, it ain't not, not
like a lot of box for her.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
She fotherows gumtoe way into a triple life sentence is
what she did the way into commissary and and uh,
you know, walk in the yard.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
She it's it's man.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't know why, but it just feels like there's
gonna be more to this story. It feels like there's
a lot more to this story. And there's an older
white woman too.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
It's Oranges. The New Black meets freaking breaking Bad, all right.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Meets Breaking Bad, you mean meets the Golden Girls.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Oh damn, thank you for being a fiend. And I
thank you for being.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
A friend, Gez, thank you for being a fiend.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
You a mess?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
All right? All right, I think we're up out of
here though. Let's go that's that.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Oh my god, the world is really going crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
It is
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Crazy, but we put it all on Front Street, all right,
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