October 11, 2024 • 61 mins
In this groundbreaking episode, Jaguar Wright breaks her silence for the first time since Diddy's arrest and her explosive interview with Piers Morgan. She dives deep into the fallout from the industry, calling out DJ Vlad for lying about never wanting her on his show. With receipts, Jaguar exposes Vlad's false claims and sets the record straight. Tune in for an unfiltered conversation about industry secrets, hidden agendas, and Jaguar’s ongoing battle to be heard.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I watched a video of an.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Interview of.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Justin Biaver and he was talking about Billie Eilish and
he was like he was brought almost in tears.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He's like, I just want to protect her. I just
want to keep her safe.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah what what?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What do you think he went through?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Because he knows what's been happening to Billy, just like
everybody knew what was happening in Millie Bobby.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Brown, girl with Drake. These people are monsters.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Real it ain't real.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Real life.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is real life, freestar hold on.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
They might not have saw this coming, but I'm sure
they saw it coming. It's been three days, three something
million on. Pierce Morgan jackuar Wright has the world's attention
as we speak. The last time we spoke, it was
virtually yeah and uh did he had been arrested, which
(01:33):
made the world stop and take a moment and say,
wait a minute, there's been a lady speaking about these
things for years.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
He turned the whole world into ray j a wait
ment it yup he did.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
And first and foremost we have to say, uh, we
appreciate you coming here next, because that gives us validity
in the sense that Pierce Morgan thank you. But really,
this moment right here is where we really get what
y'all are coming here to see and what we call
(02:12):
what would you call this kind of information that you
put out.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Jagua real shit, There you go.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Now before you get started. I'm looking at your drim,
I'm looking at your clothing. Yeah, and that looks somewhat
Is that Haley Bailey?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, someone asked me where to get this T shirt
from because they thought it was.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Harley Bailey. Yes, and it's not. This is me.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
This is twenty three year old Jaguar right. First photo shoot.
Baron Claiborne.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Shot it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Jay Manuel, from America's Top Model, did the makeup. Lune
the braider from Manhattan did the hair, and I can't
remember her name, but she called. She was called Miss
Seventh Avenue and she literally stitched that leather garment practically
onto my body right before we shot it. But when
(03:19):
I heard the girl at the store say I love her,
and I said, well that's me, she said, oh, I
thought that was Chloe Bailey. It got me to thinking. Now,
me and Chloe Bailey's career has about twenty years in
lapse time gap, and yet she looked like me. This
(03:47):
is what they do to us. They turn us into
a figure, they turn us into an archetype. They get
the image that they know will work for the public,
and then they keep creating replica after replica after replica
in real time. Shout out to Chloe Bailey. How about
(04:09):
this the rules? Just find a man who loves buying you.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Flowers, Come on man, and cruelty free.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Cruelty free as you can.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
See available in the real life market.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Yes, And as our fans who really want to also
support you know, of course you know you have your
own support system as far as your website, your cash
after that nature, but also the proceeds do go to
Jaguar right and the Jaguari Foundation where.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And my legal defense fund, which is most imperative.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Right now, with.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Two business deals, two companies profits plus BB Films and
view It, both of them were brought to me by
people that I considered trusted allies, and both deals were corrupted. Now,
(05:17):
I'm not going to blame the people that brought the
deals to me. How could I expect them to know,
but to consistently keep being courted to do business with
people who keep things secret like, oh yeah, we work
with rock Nation, or oh yeah Cuba Gooding Junior full
(05:38):
on did he do our box sits on the board.
If I could have heard those names in those first meetings,
there's no way I would have gone through with those deals.
I don't do business with people who do business with
the devil? So why did they keep it secret? Why
did I have to find out? Why did I have
(05:59):
to do extra research that wasn't available upon meeting these companies?
And I'm gonna tell you why, because my enemies paid
good money to make sure I can't be successful.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And if you don't believe me, as Dame.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Dash, that's what's been happening him.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Hi Dane, oh star right there there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So for the shout out, sorry you've been getting sued,
I haven't.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
And we're gonna go back to that because he said,
you know, how come they ever sued jab? All right,
a lot of people are saying that. So let's just
start with Pierce Morgan because there's a headline that went
out that was very powerful that people are running with
where it just says jay Z is the real monster.
Now before you speak on him, to even get to
Pierce Morgan, can you explain how that took place and
(06:52):
why even take that interview to go forward.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Well, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I can't say that I sought it out because I didn't.
Truth is, we didn't see it coming. But I have
to credit Odell, my love. I have to credit him
because since we've combined and joined forces and become a
hell of an investigative journalism team. See, I'm the content,
(07:27):
I'm the passion, I'm the voice. I'm also the brain, but.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I do too much by myself.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's the brain, that's the administrator, that's the blood. And
he you know, there were so many people that hacked
in and so many of my accounts. People didn't even
know how to get in touch with me anymore. And
Odell created that lane and they reached out to him.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Pierce Morgan's producers called.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Him directly and we talked about it briefly, and I said,
we have to do it. We have to because the
one thing I know about Pierce Morgan is he is
smart pray. And not only is he smart pray, he
is a great conductor of information. He also vets things viciously.
(08:29):
And I want to thank you for that, because if
my word is good enough to make it through.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Pierce Morgan's a firewall. Please don't sue me.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Then, I guess he just vetted me for every ounce
of real life content on this good couch.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
We thank you for that.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Do you feel that Pierce Morgan allowed you to get
because you only have so many minutes? I know you
don't know exactly how the shows the structured. Did you
get what you want to say out? And it was
there more for you to say?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Of course, I'll never have enough to say. There will
never be enough screen time for me to say. But
what I will say is, I'm grateful for the questions
he asked. I'm grateful for the time he gave me
the answer, and I pray that I was able to
hit everything that needed to be hit for the public.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
How did you feel about Blad going after you? I
loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I saw the lineup immediately right, especially when I saw
the lawyer Ariel Kid that came after. What Pierce did
was brilliant journalism. He created a beef without there.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Being one, and he created multiple episodes for confrontation. It's brilliant.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
It is Blad had said you're a conspiracy theorist. He
has never wanted you on the show.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Here you know what? Hold up, drum roll? Where do
I find that receipt?
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Is there?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's on your YouTube right, So let me go over
here to my baby's channel set in the west.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Shout out to shout the West.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Uh running the numbers up? Go there for all the exclusive,
all the exclusive.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You know, it's so funny. I love digging his channel up. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I do. I love it.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I love having a man that not only do I
agree with this content, but it's great and I can
be like.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh, my man over there doing you know what I have.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
I love to see something from scratch turning turning up
going from me. There's already something, but to just see it, right,
I love to see that.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, he's he's as much of an information bloodhound is
I am?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Is it in? Why is it a stash?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
M hm?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That's not you? Oh no, somebody else covered it? Got it? Yah?
The channel I forgot. I had to resubscribe again. I
have got I know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I didn't realize I didn't subscribe on this phone no,
because they get deleted and I keep moving and I forget.
Oh okay, is it on the community feed?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Baby?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
It's a video what is the video of if you
hold on, let's see, let's see, let's see that dj
vladd You're wrong? Is that it?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know why more people aren't looking at us,
But why isn't it playing? Is there all the blue tooth?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
That's what it is? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know, I have so many phones and I never
know what's connected to what and who and why those
were going to?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Okay, Harry got yes, alrighty see, there's a receipt. And
this is what I love when people say.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
She never has any receivet You don't have any report.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Everyone knew everyone wanted to go to white parties when
they were happened.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
But I got an invite, I would go.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
But there's a party within.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
A party that is just punching for decades. It must stop.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
There is.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
A lad lad tv A k A uh what's your name?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Brolat? Vladimir Vladimir. Let me let me get this straight,
because I'm not the first in Ukrainian. Uh, Vladimir like
you bowl me?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's just thn't know.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I'm gonna look it up. Hey, yo, No, Glad, this
is whoof gang.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I'm gonna come at you as a tech guy, as
a because.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
He is a tech guy. That's his background.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
At the Homie YG shot the y G. I'm from
Contant but from bombed from his red carpet.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And you were surprised to know you're surprised that I
knew who you were. I know you a tech guy.
You come from the tech background.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I got a tech background, so you know, we people
know each other.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, and I met you, and you know you're like ship.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
You know what I'm saying? What's up? Glad?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know it is?
Speaker 6 (13:55):
What it is.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Like? Bro or vot you is You're not hip hop
at all as.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
DJ as DJ Tanner from a house, not as DJ,
as DJ academic.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He's a dick jockey about He's not a journalist at all.
He's a chronolist.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Glad.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
You know you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
For real.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Because he said he would never sit with us.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
No, no, I know he said you would never sit
with me.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
He would never have.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
He never wanted to talk to me, but I got receipts.
Why did you reach out to jack back in June
asking for Jackie dealing the show? Why you do that?
Why are you playing it on face? Lie? Why are
you lying in your fat ass?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We'll stop there. Let's be very clear. This is the
email that dj vladd sent me. His producer sent me
asking me to appear on his podcast on YouTube just
after the Cassie video was released on my birthday. I
(15:22):
saw it. I never responded. Odell responded weeks and weeks later,
but then again did he was already in trouble, so
you really didn't need to talk to me because you
couldn't do much disinformation with me. I guess that's why
(15:43):
your friend from the Star report or should I say
the comment report.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Because he crashed out just like a comment.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I guess that's why he was so upset when I
started asking him relevant questions about why he's propping up
a liar. At this point in time, Blad, I think
it's only fair to say that Carol Johnson, your assistant,
unless you're saying you didn't know she sent this on
your behalf.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
You did want me on your show, I.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Mean, which makes sense for the kind of content he chase.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, he's always looking to put a case on somebody
to them out of the way.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
With that being said, was it was it stated that
you weren't going to rebuttal Bla Black at that time,
did they let you know.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I didn't even know Blad was going to be on OH.
Like I said, it was brilliant. Wow, because everything that
he said, denouncing me and then confirming me, and then
talking about Oh, that all happened a day before the
report about the nine year old boy was released, and
(16:59):
before people started confirming that the video that was being
shopped around was Bieber and Diddy. See that's the problem
with running your mouth flat. That's the problem. You didn't
(17:20):
realize on Monday that every word that you said was
going to be invalidated on Tuesday. See that's what happens
when you're a liar.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
See.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I didn't have to worry about what I said on
Monday because I knew what I said on Monday was
going to hold up on Wednesday. The truth needs no support,
just time and room.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Why do you think Vlad has been allowed to take
root in our culture and be able to do as
many things as he's been able to do.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I believe, in my opinion that he is an information
and disinformation agent. I think the reason why it's hard
for anyone to attach him to any American agency is
because he isn't a part of any American agency. I
have reason to believe that he is. Mussad is really
(18:23):
intelligence background. I mean, you were born in that region,
or at least your people come from that region. You
marry a black woman, you know, get you a little
black sympathy, get into the culture a little bit, act
like you want to make black people famous, and you
(18:45):
care about this and that.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I remember when you started, lad Leno was funny.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
A friend of mine that worked for Homeland Security told
me to never sit with you because this isn't the
first time you reached out to me.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Lad.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You reached out to me in two thousand and eight
after me and mister Carter had a very very very
unfortunate incident. Your life is about as and your background.
It's about as easily tracked as Barack Obamas.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's pretty tracked.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, Like, there's something very wrong with you. And not
only that, Let's.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Look at the list of essay predators you're involved within business. Currently,
you're being championed as a friend by the comment report.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Who was thrown off of.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Radio for threatening to a song essay a four year
old child.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
His partner.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I know for a fact committed statutory essay, and I
feel bad because I talked that girl out of filing
her report like she wanted to with the police, because
you told me you wrote she was she was a
liar buck. You told me all of that, like the
(20:29):
both of y'all got some weird history. And then, Ladd,
you do a podcast with a Hollywood plant who was
convicted of child grooming, an essay and all of that,
and his name is Airy Spears. You get this pervert, pervert, pervert,
(20:56):
birds of a feather flock together, and then D. L.
Hugily you have Himma's a running guy on your show,
and everybody knows what Monique told us all about how
he let his friend essay his daughter and refused to
believe his daughter until the money ran out, and then
(21:18):
all of a sudden you found something wrong with it.
Like everyone in your orbit, Lad is a weirdout.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And you're white. You don't even look remotely hip hop nigga.
You look like you should have done the reprisal for
Fiddler on the Roof.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You act like that, running around from tin rooftop to
tin rooftop playing your little weirdo music. You know that
was based that whole movie The Fiddler that came out
of Eastern Europe, right on the edge of Russia, where
your people are from, where Moussat is very involved, and
(22:12):
considering everything that's going on with the Israelis right now
and the war and this and that, you know, it
seems like you will be more interested in that like
Mila Cunis and Ashton Kutcher were before Ashton and his
Diddy partying became to say.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like there's a lot of that's government based going on.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You got Ashton Kutcher in love with Mina Milacunas on
that seventies show. Then they break up for absolutely no reason.
After he starts hanging out with Diddy. Then he marries
Demi Moore, who.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Drained him of all the adrena chrome she can and
apparently he replenished himself by doing inappropriate things. Were their daughters.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm glad. I'm sure you're glad. Like Bruce Willis has
dementia right now.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Oh now, Demi Moore has a wild movie out. I
forgot what was called, but uh, I'll google it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, the substance he went right back to me little,
He went right back to where he wanted to be,
you know, age appropriate, not even age appropriate?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Was that your Illuminati assignment, damn. And then there's a
Danny Masterson connection too. Who've Lad if I am correct?
And Ashton Kutcher both vouched for these are weird people.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So that let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
The question is how does vladd make it on to
Pierce Morgan and none of his very fairies comes up.
You're being promoted by child pedal people, you're doing business
with child pedal people, you are co signing child pedal.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
People, and you're not one. It's weird that that's just weird.
You're weird.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Do you think they asked Lad before he came on?
What is his thoughts on you? Before they put them on?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I'm sure they chegged so, But the thing is the
only it's great TV, Like I said, I thought it
was brilliant. But the thing is the only way that
he could have been quoked from a vetting team as
fierce as Pierce Morgan's, as if he was being covered
by a government.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
So what is his thoughts on Ariel?
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Then she comes on last as a lawyer for one
of the Didy accusers.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
She actually backs yours. She actually she corroborated.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
The fact that she saw the very video tapes that
I said were about to be sold right here on this.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Couch, just a couple of months ago. Why is everyone
so late?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I want to believe.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I sat right here and told y'all there was activity
on the dark net. Videos were being distributed and were
going to be sold for profit because the dender needs
the money.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Did I now say that right here?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And now we got a lawyer who has seen it.
But I ain't got no receipts. Okay, you know what
my receipt is reality and time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I watched a video of an.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Interview of.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Justin Biaver and he was talking about Billie Eilish, and
he was like he was broke, almost in tears. He's like,
I just want to protect her. I just want to
keep her safe.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah what what?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What do you think he went through?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Because he knows what's been happening to Billy, just like
everybody knew what was happening in to Millie, Bobby Brown,
girl with Drake.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
These people are monsters.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Before you notice Billie Eilish's career has slowed down a
little bit. Yeah, why she had that Bond movie song
she was doing. So we sit here and we say
we need to put Liza on a milk car and
then a couple of months later, she's working out at
(27:05):
the gym talking about she's taching time to lose weight
and get her life together. You know who else has
been trying to lose weight and get their life together?
Oprah Winfrey, you aren't known what's wild?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I mean he Ozmpic. It listens to me. I don't know.
I don't know why they give it names.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
They should just call it what it is, constant diarrhea,
because that's what people want Ozmpic have.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
It's constant diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
There's nothing left, Captain.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
If you eat, you're going to shoot hot liquidout your ass.
And if you don't eat, you spare yourself. It's like
shock therapy for starvation. Why is Oprah always on a
starvation diet? We were watching CNN and they had a
(28:00):
Fat Love.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Special arm And.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
To all of the big women that was in that video,
please forgive me if I offend you. I think your
self esteem is very important, just like everyone else's. But
let's be clear when we start saying things like fat
tolerance or you know, fat acceptance.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
We onw some hot runner. What's what's going on? I'm
sitting on a blue couch I'm in the middle of
an interview.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
You get off there.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you want to say
hi to the people.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
They hold on a second and see me and you
We go back, and there's been some evolutions of things,
but you know you are the original. You are the
You are the original DJ for lat every laser. Also
you are mad Ice. You are a T L hot.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Runner exclusive producer for Little Kim.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That's right, he will exactly.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And you're also the producer for one of my best
records ever. And it's called Free It was the first
single for the second album and we got and we
got the feature from Free Way. That's what we do
is TL hot Runner also known as mad Ice.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Wait until you see this news guy.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute. Did you find
did you find the stuff?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
For?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Give me that because I'm trying to get into the
CBO as soon as I get you got to give
me that.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Come on, I got that.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
We're doing another record.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Give me that. That's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
We need that, we need that. I give me that.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The question is I think the fellows are going to
ask me, are you gonna come to the count?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh? Me, do you got stories? You got stories? I
don't know. Let me let me, let me, let me
ask ask this. Let me ask this.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Oh you want to ask you a question? What's the question?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
I what were your thoughts when you seen Jaguar on
Pierce Morgan? Just seeing her up there popping her stuff?
Speaker 8 (30:34):
All I can say is, you know, I mean, this
is what she do, this is who I know her
to think, this is just what it is.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
This is normal. I mean, I was like, what.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
The you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Listen, I called her.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
I called her actually the same day that she said
this to me because I saw her.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I saw Deem Dance talking about her. Then I saw
talking about to I'm like, wait a minute.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
So I was like, we call her real quick to
make sure you know, you know, I mean that she
you know, just to make sure where she at with this,
and just you know, check over my sister, see where
she at with it. You know what I mean, What's
what's going on? What plansation and what moves she making?
What's her plans are? And in the midst of her talking,
she said, hold up, hold on, they just uploaded another interview,
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and I'm just like, which was she like you know,
she sent it to me and we had to get
off the phone.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I checked it out. I was like, oh my god.
When I saw it, I was saying, Okay, she in
the main stage right now, is a whole nother ball
game right now, So.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Let me ask let me ask another question real quick, ice,
and then thank you for being on the phone real quick.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
On the Blue cotch.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
For people that question Jaguar's attachment to the industry, a
lot of people question, how is she so attached to
those in the industry you're on the phone is does
Jaguar have attachments to the music industry that dates back decades.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I put it like this, I was, you know, my
of the music business. I got golden Platinum records and
I was a producer.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I didn't get in as deep as she did because
she as an artist and artists, you know, when she
was doing her thing crazy, they have way more access
to everybody because when you're an artist, you know, they
it's promotional budget marketing. So yet everywhere they don't do
that for producers. If you're not working and nobody didn't
(32:25):
send for you to come work, you're not getting anywhere.
But when you're an artist, you're everywhere with everybody. So
and the stuff that I know about the music business as.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
A producer as deep. So of course he knows. It's
gonna be three times as much as what I know.
And I know a whole lot.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
We just don't talk about it because it's amongst us
in the music business. We don't come out here and
tell the normal person, you know, the stuff we know,
because they're not, first of all, not going to be concerned.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
But we all know all the secrets of the music business.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I mean, come on, it's not you know, it's a
lot of these things are not secret.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It is.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
What it is.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
It's just that her level is much more deeper than mine.
My I'm I'm that level. If I'm out of five levels,
I'm at level three. She's definitely at two or two
or three. If I'm at level four, she definitely had
three or two with just what she knows. Because I know,
and I'm just a producer. He's an artist. So that's
way in there.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Okay, thank you, hey, I appreciate that. For real. We're
about to make issue right now, but thank you for
part of it.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Just like Hollywood, if you go around a bunch of
actors and the people that make movies. They know who
a lot a lot of secrets that the average public
don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
A lot of people in the music levels. We just
don't let all.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
The outsiders know what it is because it's not their business.
And no matter what, Yeah, they don't care anyway, So
we don't stand on a soap box and talk all this.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
It's just that Jagg was the first to say, you
know what, let me tell these people a few things.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Come on, man, come on, the average person.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Doessn't say anything because you know it's gonna be harmful
to their careers.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Yes, the worried about artists or they don't say anything
because it will definitely harm their career.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Hot runner, what up? My brother?
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Oh yeah, you know how we go?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Did I ever give her?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Never the whole time I've known her, I know you
for about thirty years, never gave he and really real
with it.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
And she if she puts you, she gonna ride out.
She whipped. Somebody asked with you, I mean you know,
I mean my girl.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I'm listen to me.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm the chick that my boys would call if they
needed to get fucked up or get out of the house.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
What happened? How do you call me your you need?
If somebody call me? What I do.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm in the car. I was in the cutlass and
I'm there and they gotta be going by the time
I get that can.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I speak on the can. I speak on the doctor.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
And you was about to beat up my mock my
wife when she had my.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
First child in her belly. She said, I was about
to kick ass. You shoot my homeboy up, so you know,
and you gave a pass. I remember that I did.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I did because I went up that night. She was
out of her I was like, you lucky you carrying
this baby. You lucky y'all lot this nigga.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
She real, that's why it so heavy for the last
two of the years. My girl. I love her, so
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Thirty Yeah, I know that he knew me before I
had Giovanni.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
He remembers the first time I came to the studio
with a car seat in my.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Car getting pressed so.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Me you like still champ rugged ness. We raised our
kids in that basement and we made hits in that bait.
James Poison became a producer in that basement. Gee.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
We put Tom in.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, I love you.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I love you too.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Jack.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I'm gonna holler at.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
You when you get off the interview as soon.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
As I'm done, I'm hitting.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Because I'm calling you about the record.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, we gotta get to the music. Come on. I
absolutely I appreciate you all realize you start, We salute you.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You a real life star.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Now, let's you've been a real life street star. That
you've been the star.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
It's real.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Love you later.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But I'm glad that phone call just happened, because I do.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I want to know.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Because no matter you want to know who that is? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
No no, I want to know how His.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
First cousin is the man that raised the sheer gray Wow,
Larry Lair. Larry Lair is who raised Basher great. Everything
that Basher became as an artist came from.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Our family, our quick and then Charlie swooped.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And promised this Lyon asked Mama bunching, and now we
all got to sit there.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
And see what happened. There you go. So you were
saying it.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Was good to know people still constantly want to do
music with you. Yeah, how does that feel like? Being
this on one spectrum being this this person that's fighting
for a freedom, and then on the other end, still
trying to balance and get the music out.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
They couldn't compete with me, and then they couldn't compete
with my passion for the truth.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
The thing that hurts me.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Is is I have so many producers that have amazing
records that they have been not allowed to release because
someone paid for them not to be real, which is
why I walked away the way that I did, because
I just wanted them to have a real shot without
(38:28):
You know, when you have a billionaire ex boyfriend with
an axe to grind, and everybody's willing to believe the
money and no one's willing to believe the talent, because
at the end of the day, that's where the truth lives.
(38:49):
There's the money, there's the talent, and there's what's in between.
It's a tug of war. See the money. But if
you're like me and you've got strong knees, you don't
know or you gotta do stick in and you can pull.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
That back squigg at.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You gotta know how to fight, and you got to
know how to be strong. You also have to know
how to get over heartbreak. You have to know how
to let it go. When I talked to Larry Larr
about Theasher or I talked to Hot Runner, didn't even
know about the gay porn. I'm the one that told
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them it's.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Sick us Jay.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Real quick, I'm gonna have a I'm gonna say something personal.
If you want to take it out, we can take
it out. But I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Uh, you know, if I ever asked you to retract anything,
I say, let's go, that's not finna change.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Now.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
You put me on the phone with Corrupt from Doc
Pound and he had said Jaguar right was one of
the girls you call.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
You know, just for whatever.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
And there was a situation that happened to where either
some groupies had came through and they needed you to
come through and beat them, be up and get down.
Were you that like type of enforcement back then?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Still am, even at my age. That's why it's so
funny when I hear people online trying to convince people
I'm timid or afraid of skin it anyway, because I
know all they trying to do is get me in
the case because they know what's going to happen. Grown
then damn near twice my size are afraid of me.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Police officers half the time are afraid to arrest me
unless they have friends with them.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
And that's not because I'm doing anything. See, it's not
about the size of the dog. It's about the size
of the fight in the dog. And I beat the
biggest and that's just what it is. But I've never
been the kind to take advantage of whatever it is
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that God made me.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Whatever it is, it came out of my bloodline, my family.
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That's why it's just it's wild because people really do
not want to believe the truth. It just don't People
don't want to believe that someone like me exists. And
most of the people out here who know who I
actually am, I think I'm crazy for walking away.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Because I was in the spot. Did you hear what
he just said?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I introduced him as Little Kim's personal producer.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
He lived in her house. He saw all the clothes
that she keeps, a Biggie small still in her closet.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That's real.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
People will say ignorance is bliss, therefore they don't have
to know the truth, Therefore they're happy.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
African proverb to not know is bad, but to not
to want.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
It's worse.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Willful ignorance and willful blindness is what makes it possible
for the Diddler to do all the things that he's
done to not just women, not just men, but children.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Children. Jay Z has too many bad friends.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
So if.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Diddy is the Diddler, who is the joker?
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Jigger man?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I had to see the two faces? So wait, so
that's Mary J.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Blair.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Damn, No, no, no, fifty is the penguin on the day.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Curtis?
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Okay, okay, so you can find him in the club.
Uh hold, wait, so let me ask you when.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Hopefully not a cocoa pele.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Damn, I got somebody looking for you there. I know
you're type Curtis. You're gonna fall for one of my
niggas real soon. See if you figure out which one.
I had somebody watching your ass. And second you came
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down to the clerk's office, Now you might have been
able to pay every body down there to get on
Facebook and lie about me and say that I was
arrested for kidnapping and elderly abuse. Y'all remember when I
got arrested and brought here to Dallas after I got
extrad was it for kidnapping and elderly abuse.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yes it was. No, it was for me being a fugitive,
a fugitive because DJ Genesis made me a fugitive when
she pretended to be Angela Owusu and broke my bond
so that King World and the Being team could come
in and swoop in online and have me arrested as
a fugitive. I was arrested as a fugitive, not for kidnapping.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't have any of those charges. So why does
everybody believe it? Why was it all over Facebook? Why
did fifty cents run around talking to every independent white
business owner that I went to and talked to and
told them about me wanting to run for mayor? Why
(45:00):
did you go and buy them all off? Curtis?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Wait, so you did something.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
You did a PSA on Curtis about him as soldier
boy on the.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Cover of that. You know, yeah, you're kind of kind
of poking the bear there.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm not poking a bear. I'm saying that he's a
stone and I've spoken to two men he's lived in
sales with who you.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Had sex with? Curtis. No, I'm not saying allegedly you're
and you know, it.
Speaker 7 (45:33):
I'm gonna do my Piers Morgan and say he's not
here to defend himself so and neither.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Is his asshole.
Speaker 9 (45:42):
I'm over curtse I'm over Curtis because the only reason
he's kissing up to jay Z right now trying.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
To manipulate the circumstances of what's supposed to happen at
the super Bowl. See Diddy's in jail, jay Z's used
to having a wing man. You think it's gonna be
you now, everybody knows in the backdrop, Sean Carter, that
(46:19):
you promised the South that the next time the super
Bowl came through it would be a Louisiana affair. And
then when Diddy goes and gets into trouble and you
need to convince the white people you're still in.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Control, you bring Kendrick Lamar. We already know you don't
like for the way he embarrassed you and don't kill
my vibe the remix. But we also know you got
ties in tde Sean Carter, and you gotta switch on top.
(46:57):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I know that for a fact, just like why you
keep having artists that want to jump off of high places.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Shout out to absul.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
What was her name?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Amori A Laurie Joe. That woman threw herself from a
control tower and impelled herself with spikes right before she
was about to sign.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
The TDE.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
And her fiance absol threw himself off of off.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
The freeway, got a grief and survived.
Speaker 6 (47:48):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Why are all of the artists to tv IS so unhappy?
You got some of the best artists in the West there.
Why did Kendrick Lamar feel the need to leave and
start his own and.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Why is he able to release more records now that
he's not at TDE.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
So let me ask you as you're on this topic.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
I tell you one thing, Curtis Jackson, you are a
setup king, and I promise you this.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Any little nigga that you're enlisting to go down to
New Orleans and start trouble during the Super Bowl, that
will stop.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
That will stop. I'm sick and tired of you. And
the truth is they only like you for your money.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
Let me ask you, jack on a surface level, you're
saying that Kendrick being in a super Bowl versus let's
say Wayne, which was like a shoe in for the
city that the politic in the background, and again we
talked about the may It's a lot more to it
than just as simple as oh, Kendrick's been.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
He had a great year.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Social engineering, creating.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
An issue that didn't need to be an issue.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Hunger games like very hunger games.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Life imitates art, art imitates life. I tell you one thing,
it's for almost thirty years since Biggie and Tupac were
taken from us. That was social engineering at its finest.
(49:47):
It got people in line, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
With that question?
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Now, you think about Drake right now, and you think
about Kendrick Lamar, that's looking about the same as big
He Kendrack. I'm Biggie, Kendrick, Tupac, h Drake.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
Think about the comparisons.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Imagine, imagine be against the playe Imagine it's the same
fate that befell Biggie and Tupac happened to Drake and
Cat Drac. And as messy as as Drake is right now,
(50:33):
I can almost bet that there's somebody that wants to
turn his falset off because if y'all think Diddy is
a mess Drake he was being groomed to be next
in line. See what happens when the real details of
(50:58):
what happened to Triple At come out. What happens when
Jonathan Hey finally starts putting all of the pieces together
on why he was putting that home invasion robbery with
his daughter because he's remembering more now he's been talking
with truth is here on YouTube, and he's been saying
(51:21):
even more now than he said here. Shout out to
Jonathan Hay and your bravery.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Shout out Jonathan Hey.
Speaker 7 (51:31):
We will get him on the couch soon because his
story is one of those stories that might get lost
to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
If he was ever.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Sing I get lost, he might get lost exactly. Let's
make sure he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
Yeah, let's pray and protect Jonathan Hey. Jack, let me
ask you to kind of put a butt on the
Piers Morgan situation. He brought you want to speak on Diddy,
and it seemed that if your focus turned to jay
Z his.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Wife, that's always been my focus. Yes, they're one and
the same. Tell me something. When you have a peanut
butter jelly sandwich, if it's just peanut butter, it's just
peanut butter.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
If it's just jelly, it's jelly.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
When you put it together become a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich, and the taste is undeniable.
Speaker 7 (52:29):
You're saying, and peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Let's deal with the sandwich.
Speaker 7 (52:40):
We asked you this last time, and Pierce More said
that they're not here to defend themselves. Do you think
they will the Carters will speak about any of this
at all? Do you just feel that they'll make any
statement about.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Hundreds of thousands, millions of followers every day? And she
still hasn't said anything, just pretending like life is great
in Paris?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Is it her place to say something?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I mean, probably not considering she's gonna be indicted for anything.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
She would say. These are criminals. Diddy is a drug
dealer and so is jay Z. The proof is there?
Speaker 3 (53:25):
How many people does he have to be aware before
people seeing.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Who he is?
Speaker 7 (53:32):
It seemed like these artists are trying to run away
from their past. Did he change his name multiple times
to say that's not me. I'm trying to move beyond Diddy.
I'm love now. It seems like j.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
A calling that nigga love and anything that he did love,
brother love, what kind of love?
Speaker 4 (53:52):
Baby oil love?
Speaker 3 (53:55):
Baby love, baby love explicit love.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Hey, they never thought that hip hop would take it
this far.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh man, it's different now.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
These lyrics are all hitting different right now, all the
people talking about.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Father, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 7 (54:23):
So what are your thoughts when you see a Choke
is no joke on? I forget the shot out the
pockets they had him on, but he speaks on.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
I wish somebody would choke that joke.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Damn. He tried to exploit the transvestite that was on
the big events.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
No, he wanted to sell a story that he thought
would get him higher subscriptions on YouTube. I don't put
Choke because Choke knows the truth. He knows the whole truth,
and he's not telling it. He's telling He ain't no
different than Brother Balah. They're not worried about the truth.
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They're worried about what they can do to profit from it.
That's why I am the way I am. Most people
who know me, who ever done work with me. I'm
not a money hound. I'm not sitting there give me
it as and you better get no. I only ask
people to pay for my time. The truth is free
(55:23):
should be because see if what I'm doing I'm doing
for money then see there's a motivation.
Speaker 4 (55:32):
See the second that.
Speaker 3 (55:34):
I started doing what I'm doing and I knew where
I was going with it, I knew I was going
to have to divorce myself from all human everything, because
that's how to get you.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
They gets you with the human.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
With the family, with the friends, with the money, with
the cars, the job, the umbrella package for your retirement,
that kidney your mom needs, that living your daughter has.
That's failing it. You got to remove yourself from all
of that because you can't be influenced by anything. That's
(56:10):
why I don't talk money for anyone. That's why I'm
so grateful that God brought Odell, because he gives about
the details. I can't. I can only care about the truth.
My relationship is to the truth and making sure that
the truth gets to where it goes. If I am
corruptible in any way, how can I ask anybody.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
To believe me?
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Implicitly? That's right, And the truth is I was down
for the fuck shit. I would already be a trillionaire
by now because that I am, and that I can
do be the level that I could have gone to.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
If I was down for the cruelty.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Well, jay Z would be afraid of me because he'd
be waiting for me to set him up like he set.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
Up everybody else. I'm smarter than all of these people,
and they know it.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Like what do you have to lose? Like do you
have what do you have to lose?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
If my son's legacy, my son died because he was
my son?
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Do you speak on that sure?
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Like you said it was your son.
Speaker 4 (57:38):
He died because of.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
You, was targeted because he's my son, like he was
about to he was working on his EP. I bought
Dhiladelphia for him so he.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
Didn't have to sign to a company because I knew
what it was going to do.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
He interned at Rock Nation m HM, and they approached
him to sacrifice me.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
He got caught up in a case.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
He went into the system, and when he got out
and got to the Halfway House, we moved. I moved
to us here. I saw his death when he was nineteen.
I moved us here to stop it, to event, to
prevent it, to avoid it, right, And it happened anyway.
(58:40):
And see that's when I knew that Kanye's mom. Kanye
would have never wanted Dona dead, not even by natural causes.
I was happy when he finally accept because they sacrifice
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your loved ones, whether you.
Speaker 4 (59:04):
Agree or not.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
See, sometimes you agree and they put you in position,
you know, but sometimes you disagree and they take them
anyway to show you what the harm is.
Speaker 4 (59:28):
You know, it's Giovanni. His death is why I do
what I do.
Speaker 7 (59:49):
And that's what they want to ask Jack, because that
triggered something in you at the time that happened. Do
you feel if he was still with us today, that
this crusader on he's.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
With us right now exactly. He's walking with me on
this every step of the way. I don't understand why
people rely on science to disprove God but won't believe
it when they have the evidence in their face.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Energy does not die, it doesn't dissipate, It only transfers.
We don't lose anyone, we lose access to them physically,
Spiritually they're still here, They're still around. See, we don't
(01:00:40):
want to believe in spirituality because spirituality holds us accountable
before our choices. We were talking about this a little earlier,
about how the devil tricked everybody into believing that he
wasn't real so they wouldn't realize they were being possessed
by him.
Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
If it was all you, you chose it, then there's
no one else to blame but me. But you remember,
there used to be an old saber. The devil made
me do it. The devil made me do it. We
don't hear people say that anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
No, we just hear mental health, mental health, mental health,
mental health. Why is it that we live in a
spiritual realm filled with nothing but pure magic created by
God and we don't want to acknowledge it? Why do
we not believe the demon possession is real, real life
I watched a video of an.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Interview of.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Justin Biaver and he was talking about Billie Eilish and
he was like he was brought almost in tears.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He's like, I just want to protect her. I just
want to keep her safe.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah what what?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
What do you think he went through?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Because he knows what's been happening to Billy, just like
everybody knew what was happening in Millie Bobby.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Brown, girl with Drake. These people are monsters.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Real it ain't real.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Real life.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is real life, freestar hold on.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
They might not have saw this coming, but I'm sure
they saw it coming. It's been three days, three something
million on. Pierce Morgan jackuar Wright has the world's attention
as we speak. The last time we spoke, it was
virtually yeah and uh did he had been arrested, which
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made the world stop and take a moment and say,
wait a minute, there's been a lady speaking about these
things for years.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
He turned the whole world into ray j a wait
ment it yup he did.
Speaker 7 (01:49):
And first and foremost we have to say, uh, we
appreciate you coming here next, because that gives us validity
in the sense that Pierce Morgan thank you. But really,
this moment right here is where we really get what
y'all are coming here to see and what we call
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what would you call this kind of information that you
put out.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Jagua real shit, There you go.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Now before you get started. I'm looking at your drim,
I'm looking at your clothing. Yeah, and that looks somewhat
Is that Haley Bailey?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, someone asked me where to get this T shirt
from because they thought it was.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Harley Bailey. Yes, and it's not. This is me.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
This is twenty three year old Jaguar right. First photo shoot.
Baron Claiborne.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Shot it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Jay Manuel, from America's Top Model, did the makeup. Lune
the braider from Manhattan did the hair, and I can't
remember her name, but she called. She was called Miss
Seventh Avenue and she literally stitched that leather garment practically
onto my body right before we shot it. But when
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I heard the girl at the store say I love her,
and I said, well that's me, she said, oh, I
thought that was Chloe Bailey. It got me to thinking. Now,
me and Chloe Bailey's career has about twenty years in
lapse time gap, and yet she looked like me. This
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is what they do to us. They turn us into
a figure, they turn us into an archetype. They get
the image that they know will work for the public,
and then they keep creating replica after replica after replica
in real time. Shout out to Chloe Bailey. How about
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this the rules? Just find a man who loves buying you.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Flowers, Come on man, and cruelty free.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Cruelty free as you can.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
See available in the real life market.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Yes, And as our fans who really want to also
support you know, of course you know you have your
own support system as far as your website, your cash
after that nature, but also the proceeds do go to
Jaguar right and the Jaguari Foundation where.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And my legal defense fund, which is most imperative.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Right now, with.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Two business deals, two companies profits plus BB Films and
view It, both of them were brought to me by
people that I considered trusted allies, and both deals were corrupted. Now,
(05:17):
I'm not going to blame the people that brought the
deals to me. How could I expect them to know,
but to consistently keep being courted to do business with
people who keep things secret like, oh yeah, we work
with rock Nation, or oh yeah Cuba Gooding Junior full
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on did he do our box sits on the board.
If I could have heard those names in those first meetings,
there's no way I would have gone through with those deals.
I don't do business with people who do business with
the devil? So why did they keep it secret? Why
did I have to find out? Why did I have
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to do extra research that wasn't available upon meeting these companies?
And I'm gonna tell you why, because my enemies paid
good money to make sure I can't be successful.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And if you don't believe me, as Dame.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Dash, that's what's been happening him.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Hi Dane, oh star right there there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So for the shout out, sorry you've been getting sued,
I haven't.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
And we're gonna go back to that because he said,
you know, how come they ever sued jab? All right,
a lot of people are saying that. So let's just
start with Pierce Morgan because there's a headline that went
out that was very powerful that people are running with
where it just says jay Z is the real monster.
Now before you speak on him, to even get to
Pierce Morgan, can you explain how that took place and
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why even take that interview to go forward.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Well, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I can't say that I sought it out because I didn't.
Truth is, we didn't see it coming. But I have
to credit Odell, my love. I have to credit him
because since we've combined and joined forces and become a
hell of an investigative journalism team. See, I'm the content,
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I'm the passion, I'm the voice. I'm also the brain, but.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I do too much by myself.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's the brain, that's the administrator, that's the blood. And
he you know, there were so many people that hacked
in and so many of my accounts. People didn't even
know how to get in touch with me anymore. And
Odell created that lane and they reached out to him.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Pierce Morgan's producers called.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Him directly and we talked about it briefly, and I said,
we have to do it. We have to because the
one thing I know about Pierce Morgan is he is
smart pray. And not only is he smart pray, he
is a great conductor of information. He also vets things viciously.
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And I want to thank you for that, because if
my word is good enough to make it through.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Pierce Morgan's a firewall. Please don't sue me.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Then, I guess he just vetted me for every ounce
of real life content on this good couch.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
We thank you for that.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Do you feel that Pierce Morgan allowed you to get
because you only have so many minutes? I know you
don't know exactly how the shows the structured. Did you
get what you want to say out? And it was
there more for you to say?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Of course, I'll never have enough to say. There will
never be enough screen time for me to say. But
what I will say is, I'm grateful for the questions
he asked. I'm grateful for the time he gave me
the answer, and I pray that I was able to
hit everything that needed to be hit for the public.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
How did you feel about Blad going after you? I
loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I saw the lineup immediately right, especially when I saw
the lawyer Ariel Kid that came after. What Pierce did
was brilliant journalism. He created a beef without there.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Being one, and he created multiple episodes for confrontation. It's brilliant.
Speaker 7 (09:54):
It is Blad had said you're a conspiracy theorist. He
has never wanted you on the show.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Here you know what? Hold up, drum roll? Where do
I find that receipt?
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Is there?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's on your YouTube right, So let me go over
here to my baby's channel set in the west.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Shout out to shout the West.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Uh running the numbers up? Go there for all the exclusive,
all the exclusive.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You know, it's so funny. I love digging his channel up. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I do. I love it.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I love having a man that not only do I
agree with this content, but it's great and I can
be like.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Oh, my man over there doing you know what I have.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
I love to see something from scratch turning turning up
going from me. There's already something, but to just see it, right,
I love to see that.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No, he's he's as much of an information bloodhound is
I am?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Is it in? Why is it a stash?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
M hm?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That's not you? Oh no, somebody else covered it? Got it? Yah?
The channel I forgot. I had to resubscribe again. I
have got I know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I didn't realize I didn't subscribe on this phone no,
because they get deleted and I keep moving and I forget.
Oh okay, is it on the community feed?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Baby?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
It's a video what is the video of if you
hold on, let's see, let's see, let's see that dj
vladd You're wrong? Is that it?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know why more people aren't looking at us,
But why isn't it playing? Is there all the blue tooth?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
That's what it is? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know, I have so many phones and I never
know what's connected to what and who and why those
were going to?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Okay, Harry got yes, alrighty see, there's a receipt. And
this is what I love when people say.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
She never has any receivet You don't have any report.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Everyone knew everyone wanted to go to white parties when
they were happened.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
But I got an invite, I would go.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
But there's a party within.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
A party that is just punching for decades. It must stop.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
There is.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
A lad lad tv A k A uh what's your name?
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Brolat? Vladimir Vladimir. Let me let me get this straight,
because I'm not the first in Ukrainian. Uh, Vladimir like
you bowl me?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's just thn't know.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
I'm gonna look it up. Hey, yo, No, Glad, this
is whoof gang.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I'm gonna come at you as a tech guy, as
a because.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
He is a tech guy. That's his background.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
At the Homie YG shot the y G. I'm from
Contant but from bombed from his red carpet.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
And you were surprised to know you're surprised that I
knew who you were. I know you a tech guy.
You come from the tech background.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I got a tech background, so you know, we people
know each other.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, and I met you, and you know you're like ship.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
You know what I'm saying? What's up? Glad?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You know it is?
Speaker 6 (13:55):
What it is.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Like? Bro or vot you is You're not hip hop
at all as.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
DJ as DJ Tanner from a house, not as DJ,
as DJ academic.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He's a dick jockey about He's not a journalist at all.
He's a chronolist.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Glad.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
You know you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
For real.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Because he said he would never sit with us.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
No, no, I know he said you would never sit
with me.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
He would never have.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
He never wanted to talk to me, but I got receipts.
Why did you reach out to jack back in June
asking for Jackie dealing the show? Why you do that?
Why are you playing it on face? Lie? Why are
you lying in your fat ass?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
We'll stop there. Let's be very clear. This is the
email that dj vladd sent me. His producer sent me
asking me to appear on his podcast on YouTube just
after the Cassie video was released on my birthday. I
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saw it. I never responded. Odell responded weeks and weeks later,
but then again did he was already in trouble, so
you really didn't need to talk to me because you
couldn't do much disinformation with me. I guess that's why
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your friend from the Star report or should I say
the comment report.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Because he crashed out just like a comment.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I guess that's why he was so upset when I
started asking him relevant questions about why he's propping up
a liar. At this point in time, Blad, I think
it's only fair to say that Carol Johnson, your assistant,
unless you're saying you didn't know she sent this on
your behalf.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
You did want me on your show, I.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Mean, which makes sense for the kind of content he chase.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, he's always looking to put a case on somebody
to them out of the way.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
With that being said, was it was it stated that
you weren't going to rebuttal Bla Black at that time,
did they let you know.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I didn't even know Blad was going to be on OH.
Like I said, it was brilliant. Wow, because everything that
he said, denouncing me and then confirming me, and then
talking about Oh, that all happened a day before the
report about the nine year old boy was released, and
(16:59):
before people started confirming that the video that was being
shopped around was Bieber and Diddy. See that's the problem
with running your mouth flat. That's the problem. You didn't
(17:20):
realize on Monday that every word that you said was
going to be invalidated on Tuesday. See that's what happens
when you're a liar.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
See.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I didn't have to worry about what I said on
Monday because I knew what I said on Monday was
going to hold up on Wednesday. The truth needs no support,
just time and room.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Why do you think Vlad has been allowed to take
root in our culture and be able to do as
many things as he's been able to do.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I believe, in my opinion that he is an information
and disinformation agent. I think the reason why it's hard
for anyone to attach him to any American agency is
because he isn't a part of any American agency. I
have reason to believe that he is. Mussad is really
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intelligence background. I mean, you were born in that region,
or at least your people come from that region. You
marry a black woman, you know, get you a little
black sympathy, get into the culture a little bit, act
like you want to make black people famous, and you
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care about this and that.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I remember when you started, lad Leno was funny.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
A friend of mine that worked for Homeland Security told
me to never sit with you because this isn't the
first time you reached out to me.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Lad.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You reached out to me in two thousand and eight
after me and mister Carter had a very very very
unfortunate incident. Your life is about as and your background.
It's about as easily tracked as Barack Obamas.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's pretty tracked.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, Like, there's something very wrong with you. And not
only that, Let's.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Look at the list of essay predators you're involved within business. Currently,
you're being championed as a friend by the comment report.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Who was thrown off of.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Radio for threatening to a song essay a four year
old child.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
His partner.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I know for a fact committed statutory essay, and I
feel bad because I talked that girl out of filing
her report like she wanted to with the police, because
you told me you wrote she was she was a
liar buck. You told me all of that, like the
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both of y'all got some weird history. And then, Ladd,
you do a podcast with a Hollywood plant who was
convicted of child grooming, an essay and all of that,
and his name is Airy Spears. You get this pervert, pervert, pervert,
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birds of a feather flock together, and then D. L.
Hugily you have Himma's a running guy on your show,
and everybody knows what Monique told us all about how
he let his friend essay his daughter and refused to
believe his daughter until the money ran out, and then
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all of a sudden you found something wrong with it.
Like everyone in your orbit, Lad is a weirdout.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
And you're white. You don't even look remotely hip hop nigga.
You look like you should have done the reprisal for
Fiddler on the Roof.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You act like that, running around from tin rooftop to
tin rooftop playing your little weirdo music. You know that
was based that whole movie The Fiddler that came out
of Eastern Europe, right on the edge of Russia, where
your people are from, where Moussat is very involved, and
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considering everything that's going on with the Israelis right now
and the war and this and that, you know, it
seems like you will be more interested in that like
Mila Cunis and Ashton Kutcher were before Ashton and his
Diddy partying became to say.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Like there's a lot of that's government based going on.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You got Ashton Kutcher in love with Mina Milacunas on
that seventies show. Then they break up for absolutely no reason.
After he starts hanging out with Diddy. Then he marries
Demi Moore, who.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Drained him of all the adrena chrome she can and
apparently he replenished himself by doing inappropriate things. Were their daughters.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm glad. I'm sure you're glad. Like Bruce Willis has
dementia right now.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Oh now, Demi Moore has a wild movie out. I
forgot what was called, but uh, I'll google it.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, the substance he went right back to me little,
He went right back to where he wanted to be,
you know, age appropriate, not even age appropriate?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Was that your Illuminati assignment, damn. And then there's a
Danny Masterson connection too. Who've Lad if I am correct?
And Ashton Kutcher both vouched for these are weird people.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
So that let me ask you.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
The question is how does vladd make it on to
Pierce Morgan and none of his very fairies comes up.
You're being promoted by child pedal people, you're doing business
with child pedal people, you are co signing child pedal.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
People, and you're not one. It's weird that that's just weird.
You're weird.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Do you think they asked Lad before he came on?
What is his thoughts on you? Before they put them on?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I'm sure they chegged so, But the thing is the
only it's great TV, Like I said, I thought it
was brilliant. But the thing is the only way that
he could have been quoked from a vetting team as
fierce as Pierce Morgan's, as if he was being covered
by a government.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
So what is his thoughts on Ariel?
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Then she comes on last as a lawyer for one
of the Didy accusers.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
She actually backs yours. She actually she corroborated.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
The fact that she saw the very video tapes that
I said were about to be sold right here on this.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Couch, just a couple of months ago. Why is everyone
so late?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I want to believe.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I sat right here and told y'all there was activity
on the dark net. Videos were being distributed and were
going to be sold for profit because the dender needs
the money.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Did I now say that right here?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And now we got a lawyer who has seen it.
But I ain't got no receipts. Okay, you know what
my receipt is reality and time.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I watched a video of an.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Interview of.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Justin Biaver and he was talking about Billie Eilish, and
he was like he was broke, almost in tears. He's like,
I just want to protect her. I just want to
keep her safe.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah what what?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
What do you think he went through?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Because he knows what's been happening to Billy, just like
everybody knew what was happening in to Millie, Bobby Brown,
girl with Drake.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
These people are monsters.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Before you notice Billie Eilish's career has slowed down a
little bit. Yeah, why she had that Bond movie song
she was doing. So we sit here and we say
we need to put Liza on a milk car and
then a couple of months later, she's working out at
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the gym talking about she's taching time to lose weight
and get her life together. You know who else has
been trying to lose weight and get their life together?
Oprah Winfrey, you aren't known what's wild?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I mean he Ozmpic. It listens to me. I don't know.
I don't know why they give it names.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
They should just call it what it is, constant diarrhea,
because that's what people want Ozmpic have.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
It's constant diarrhea.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
There's nothing left, Captain.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
If you eat, you're going to shoot hot liquidout your ass.
And if you don't eat, you spare yourself. It's like
shock therapy for starvation. Why is Oprah always on a
starvation diet? We were watching CNN and they had a
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Fat Love.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Special arm And.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
To all of the big women that was in that video,
please forgive me if I offend you. I think your
self esteem is very important, just like everyone else's. But
let's be clear when we start saying things like fat
tolerance or you know, fat acceptance.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
We onw some hot runner. What's what's going on? I'm
sitting on a blue couch I'm in the middle of
an interview.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
You get off there.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you want to say
hi to the people.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
They hold on a second and see me and you
We go back, and there's been some evolutions of things,
but you know you are the original. You are the
You are the original DJ for lat every laser. Also
you are mad Ice. You are a T L hot.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Runner exclusive producer for Little Kim.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That's right, he will exactly.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And you're also the producer for one of my best
records ever. And it's called Free It was the first
single for the second album and we got and we
got the feature from Free Way. That's what we do
is TL hot Runner also known as mad Ice.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Wait until you see this news guy.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Wait, wait a minute, Wait a minute. Did you find
did you find the stuff?
Speaker 6 (29:49):
For?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Give me that because I'm trying to get into the
CBO as soon as I get you got to give
me that.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Come on, I got that.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
We're doing another record.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Give me that. That's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
We need that, we need that. I give me that.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
The question is I think the fellows are going to
ask me, are you gonna come to the count?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh? Me, do you got stories? You got stories? I
don't know. Let me let me, let me, let me
ask ask this. Let me ask this.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Oh you want to ask you a question? What's the question?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
I what were your thoughts when you seen Jaguar on
Pierce Morgan? Just seeing her up there popping her stuff?
Speaker 8 (30:34):
All I can say is, you know, I mean, this
is what she do, this is who I know her
to think, this is just what it is.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
This is normal. I mean, I was like, what.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
The you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Listen, I called her.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
I called her actually the same day that she said
this to me because I saw her.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
I saw Deem Dance talking about her. Then I saw
talking about to I'm like, wait a minute.
Speaker 8 (30:57):
So I was like, we call her real quick to
make sure you know, you know, I mean that she
you know, just to make sure where she at with this,
and just you know, check over my sister, see where
she at with it. You know what I mean, What's
what's going on? What plansation and what moves she making?
What's her plans are? And in the midst of her talking,
she said, hold up, hold on, they just uploaded another interview,
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and I'm just like, which was she like you know,
she sent it to me and we had to get
off the phone.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I checked it out. I was like, oh my god.
When I saw it, I was saying, Okay, she in
the main stage right now, is a whole nother ball
game right now, So.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Let me ask let me ask another question real quick, ice,
and then thank you for being on the phone real quick.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
On the Blue cotch.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
For people that question Jaguar's attachment to the industry, a
lot of people question, how is she so attached to
those in the industry you're on the phone is does
Jaguar have attachments to the music industry that dates back decades.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
I put it like this, I was, you know, my
of the music business. I got golden Platinum records and
I was a producer.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I didn't get in as deep as she did because
she as an artist and artists, you know, when she
was doing her thing crazy, they have way more access
to everybody because when you're an artist, you know, they
it's promotional budget marketing. So yet everywhere they don't do
that for producers. If you're not working and nobody didn't
(32:25):
send for you to come work, you're not getting anywhere.
But when you're an artist, you're everywhere with everybody. So
and the stuff that I know about the music business as.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
A producer as deep. So of course he knows. It's
gonna be three times as much as what I know.
And I know a whole lot.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
We just don't talk about it because it's amongst us
in the music business. We don't come out here and
tell the normal person, you know, the stuff we know,
because they're not, first of all, not going to be concerned.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
But we all know all the secrets of the music business.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I mean, come on, it's not you know, it's a
lot of these things are not secret.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It is.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
What it is.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
It's just that her level is much more deeper than mine.
My I'm I'm that level. If I'm out of five levels,
I'm at level three. She's definitely at two or two
or three. If I'm at level four, she definitely had
three or two with just what she knows. Because I know,
and I'm just a producer. He's an artist. So that's
way in there.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Okay, thank you, hey, I appreciate that. For real. We're
about to make issue right now, but thank you for
part of it.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Just like Hollywood, if you go around a bunch of
actors and the people that make movies. They know who
a lot a lot of secrets that the average public
don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
A lot of people in the music levels. We just
don't let all.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
The outsiders know what it is because it's not their business.
And no matter what, Yeah, they don't care anyway, So
we don't stand on a soap box and talk all this.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
It's just that Jagg was the first to say, you
know what, let me tell these people a few things.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Come on, man, come on, the average person.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
Doessn't say anything because you know it's gonna be harmful
to their careers.
Speaker 8 (34:08):
Yes, the worried about artists or they don't say anything
because it will definitely harm their career.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Hot runner, what up? My brother?
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Oh yeah, you know how we go?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Did I ever give her?
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Never the whole time I've known her, I know you
for about thirty years, never gave he and really real
with it.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
And she if she puts you, she gonna ride out.
She whipped. Somebody asked with you, I mean you know,
I mean my girl.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I'm listen to me.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I'm the chick that my boys would call if they
needed to get fucked up or get out of the house.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
What happened? How do you call me your you need?
If somebody call me? What I do.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm in the car. I was in the cutlass and
I'm there and they gotta be going by the time
I get that can.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I speak on the can. I speak on the doctor.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
And you was about to beat up my mock my
wife when she had my.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
First child in her belly. She said, I was about
to kick ass. You shoot my homeboy up, so you know,
and you gave a pass. I remember that I did.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I did because I went up that night. She was
out of her I was like, you lucky you carrying
this baby. You lucky y'all lot this nigga.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
She real, that's why it so heavy for the last
two of the years. My girl. I love her, so
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Thirty Yeah, I know that he knew me before I
had Giovanni.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
He remembers the first time I came to the studio
with a car seat in my.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Car getting pressed so.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Me you like still champ rugged ness. We raised our
kids in that basement and we made hits in that bait.
James Poison became a producer in that basement. Gee.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
We put Tom in.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, I love you.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I love you too.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Jack.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I'm gonna holler at.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
You when you get off the interview as soon.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
As I'm done, I'm hitting.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Because I'm calling you about the record.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, we gotta get to the music. Come on. I
absolutely I appreciate you all realize you start, We salute you.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You a real life star.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Now, let's you've been a real life street star. That
you've been the star.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
It's real.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Love you later.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But I'm glad that phone call just happened, because I do.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I want to know.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Because no matter you want to know who that is? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
No no, I want to know how His.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
First cousin is the man that raised the sheer gray Wow,
Larry Lair. Larry Lair is who raised Basher great. Everything
that Basher became as an artist came from.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Our family, our quick and then Charlie swooped.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
And promised this Lyon asked Mama bunching, and now we
all got to sit there.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
And see what happened. There you go. So you were
saying it.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Was good to know people still constantly want to do
music with you. Yeah, how does that feel like? Being
this on one spectrum being this this person that's fighting
for a freedom, and then on the other end, still
trying to balance and get the music out.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
They couldn't compete with me, and then they couldn't compete
with my passion for the truth.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
The thing that hurts me.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Is is I have so many producers that have amazing
records that they have been not allowed to release because
someone paid for them not to be real, which is
why I walked away the way that I did, because
I just wanted them to have a real shot without
(38:28):
You know, when you have a billionaire ex boyfriend with
an axe to grind, and everybody's willing to believe the
money and no one's willing to believe the talent, because
at the end of the day, that's where the truth lives.
(38:49):
There's the money, there's the talent, and there's what's in between.
It's a tug of war. See the money. But if
you're like me and you've got strong knees, you don't
know or you gotta do stick in and you can pull.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
That back squigg at.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You gotta know how to fight, and you got to
know how to be strong. You also have to know
how to get over heartbreak. You have to know how
to let it go. When I talked to Larry Larr
about Theasher or I talked to Hot Runner, didn't even
know about the gay porn. I'm the one that told
(39:36):
them it's.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Sick us Jay.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
Real quick, I'm gonna have a I'm gonna say something personal.
If you want to take it out, we can take
it out. But I'm gonna ask you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Uh, you know, if I ever asked you to retract anything,
I say, let's go, that's not finna change.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Now.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
You put me on the phone with Corrupt from Doc
Pound and he had said Jaguar right was one of
the girls you call.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
You know, just for whatever.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
And there was a situation that happened to where either
some groupies had came through and they needed you to
come through and beat them, be up and get down.
Were you that like type of enforcement back then?
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Still am, even at my age. That's why it's so
funny when I hear people online trying to convince people
I'm timid or afraid of skin it anyway, because I
know all they trying to do is get me in
the case because they know what's going to happen. Grown
then damn near twice my size are afraid of me.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Police officers half the time are afraid to arrest me
unless they have friends with them.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
And that's not because I'm doing anything. See, it's not
about the size of the dog. It's about the size
of the fight in the dog. And I beat the
biggest and that's just what it is. But I've never
been the kind to take advantage of whatever it is
(41:22):
that God made me.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Whatever it is, it came out of my bloodline, my family.
You know.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That's why it's just it's wild because people really do
not want to believe the truth. It just don't People
don't want to believe that someone like me exists. And
most of the people out here who know who I
actually am, I think I'm crazy for walking away.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Because I was in the spot. Did you hear what
he just said?
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I introduced him as Little Kim's personal producer.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
He lived in her house. He saw all the clothes
that she keeps, a Biggie small still in her closet.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
That's real.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
People will say ignorance is bliss, therefore they don't have
to know the truth, Therefore they're happy.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
African proverb to not know is bad, but to not
to want.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
It's worse.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Willful ignorance and willful blindness is what makes it possible
for the Diddler to do all the things that he's
done to not just women, not just men, but children.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Children. Jay Z has too many bad friends.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
So if.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Diddy is the Diddler, who is the joker?
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Jigger man?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I had to see the two faces? So wait, so
that's Mary J.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Blair.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Damn, No, no, no, fifty is the penguin on the day.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Curtis?
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Okay, okay, so you can find him in the club.
Uh hold, wait, so let me ask you when.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Hopefully not a cocoa pele.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Damn, I got somebody looking for you there. I know
you're type Curtis. You're gonna fall for one of my
niggas real soon. See if you figure out which one.
I had somebody watching your ass. And second you came
(43:55):
down to the clerk's office, Now you might have been
able to pay every body down there to get on
Facebook and lie about me and say that I was
arrested for kidnapping and elderly abuse. Y'all remember when I
got arrested and brought here to Dallas after I got
extrad was it for kidnapping and elderly abuse.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yes it was. No, it was for me being a fugitive,
a fugitive because DJ Genesis made me a fugitive when
she pretended to be Angela Owusu and broke my bond
so that King World and the Being team could come
in and swoop in online and have me arrested as
a fugitive. I was arrested as a fugitive, not for kidnapping.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I don't have any of those charges. So why does
everybody believe it? Why was it all over Facebook? Why
did fifty cents run around talking to every independent white
business owner that I went to and talked to and
told them about me wanting to run for mayor? Why
(45:00):
did you go and buy them all off? Curtis?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Wait, so you did something.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
You did a PSA on Curtis about him as soldier
boy on the.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Cover of that. You know, yeah, you're kind of kind
of poking the bear there.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I'm not poking a bear. I'm saying that he's a
stone and I've spoken to two men he's lived in
sales with who you.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Had sex with? Curtis. No, I'm not saying allegedly you're
and you know, it.
Speaker 7 (45:33):
I'm gonna do my Piers Morgan and say he's not
here to defend himself so and neither.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Is his asshole.
Speaker 9 (45:42):
I'm over curtse I'm over Curtis because the only reason
he's kissing up to jay Z right now trying.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
To manipulate the circumstances of what's supposed to happen at
the super Bowl. See Diddy's in jail, jay Z's used
to having a wing man. You think it's gonna be
you now, everybody knows in the backdrop, Sean Carter, that
(46:19):
you promised the South that the next time the super
Bowl came through it would be a Louisiana affair. And
then when Diddy goes and gets into trouble and you
need to convince the white people you're still in.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Control, you bring Kendrick Lamar. We already know you don't
like for the way he embarrassed you and don't kill
my vibe the remix. But we also know you got
ties in tde Sean Carter, and you gotta switch on top.
(46:57):
I know that.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I know that for a fact, just like why you
keep having artists that want to jump off of high places.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Shout out to absul.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
M hmm.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
What was her name?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Amori A Laurie Joe. That woman threw herself from a
control tower and impelled herself with spikes right before she
was about to sign.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
The TDE.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
And her fiance absol threw himself off of off.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
The freeway, got a grief and survived.
Speaker 6 (47:48):
Hm.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Why are all of the artists to tv IS so unhappy?
You got some of the best artists in the West there.
Why did Kendrick Lamar feel the need to leave and
start his own and.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Why is he able to release more records now that
he's not at TDE.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
So let me ask you as you're on this topic.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
I tell you one thing, Curtis Jackson, you are a
setup king, and I promise you this.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
Any little nigga that you're enlisting to go down to
New Orleans and start trouble during the Super Bowl, that
will stop.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
That will stop. I'm sick and tired of you. And
the truth is they only like you for your money.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
Let me ask you, jack on a surface level, you're
saying that Kendrick being in a super Bowl versus let's
say Wayne, which was like a shoe in for the
city that the politic in the background, and again we
talked about the may It's a lot more to it
than just as simple as oh, Kendrick's been.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
He had a great year.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
Social engineering, creating.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
An issue that didn't need to be an issue.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Hunger games like very hunger games.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Life imitates art, art imitates life. I tell you one thing,
it's for almost thirty years since Biggie and Tupac were
taken from us. That was social engineering at its finest.
(49:47):
It got people in line, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
With that question?
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Now, you think about Drake right now, and you think
about Kendrick Lamar, that's looking about the same as big
He Kendrack. I'm Biggie, Kendrick, Tupac, h Drake.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
Think about the comparisons.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Imagine, imagine be against the playe Imagine it's the same
fate that befell Biggie and Tupac happened to Drake and
Cat Drac. And as messy as as Drake is right now,
(50:33):
I can almost bet that there's somebody that wants to
turn his falset off because if y'all think Diddy is
a mess Drake he was being groomed to be next
in line. See what happens when the real details of
(50:58):
what happened to Triple At come out. What happens when
Jonathan Hey finally starts putting all of the pieces together
on why he was putting that home invasion robbery with
his daughter because he's remembering more now he's been talking
with truth is here on YouTube, and he's been saying
(51:21):
even more now than he said here. Shout out to
Jonathan Hay and your bravery.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Shout out Jonathan Hey.
Speaker 7 (51:31):
We will get him on the couch soon because his
story is one of those stories that might get lost
to Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
If he was ever.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Sing I get lost, he might get lost exactly. Let's
make sure he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
Yeah, let's pray and protect Jonathan Hey. Jack, let me
ask you to kind of put a butt on the
Piers Morgan situation. He brought you want to speak on Diddy,
and it seemed that if your focus turned to jay
Z his.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Wife, that's always been my focus. Yes, they're one and
the same. Tell me something. When you have a peanut
butter jelly sandwich, if it's just peanut butter, it's just
peanut butter.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
If it's just jelly, it's jelly.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
When you put it together become a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich, and the taste is undeniable.
Speaker 7 (52:29):
You're saying, and peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Let's deal with the sandwich.
Speaker 7 (52:40):
We asked you this last time, and Pierce More said
that they're not here to defend themselves. Do you think
they will the Carters will speak about any of this
at all? Do you just feel that they'll make any
statement about.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Hundreds of thousands, millions of followers every day? And she
still hasn't said anything, just pretending like life is great
in Paris?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Is it her place to say something?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
I mean, probably not considering she's gonna be indicted for anything.
Speaker 4 (53:11):
She would say. These are criminals. Diddy is a drug
dealer and so is jay Z. The proof is there?
Speaker 3 (53:25):
How many people does he have to be aware before
people seeing.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
Who he is?
Speaker 7 (53:32):
It seemed like these artists are trying to run away
from their past. Did he change his name multiple times
to say that's not me. I'm trying to move beyond Diddy.
I'm love now. It seems like j.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
A calling that nigga love and anything that he did love,
brother love, what kind of love?
Speaker 4 (53:52):
Baby oil love?
Speaker 3 (53:55):
Baby love, baby love explicit love.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Hey, they never thought that hip hop would take it
this far.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Oh man, it's different now.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
These lyrics are all hitting different right now, all the
people talking about.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
Father, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 7 (54:23):
So what are your thoughts when you see a Choke
is no joke on? I forget the shot out the
pockets they had him on, but he speaks on.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
I wish somebody would choke that joke.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Damn. He tried to exploit the transvestite that was on
the big events.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
No, he wanted to sell a story that he thought
would get him higher subscriptions on YouTube. I don't put
Choke because Choke knows the truth. He knows the whole truth,
and he's not telling it. He's telling He ain't no
different than Brother Balah. They're not worried about the truth.
(55:01):
They're worried about what they can do to profit from it.
That's why I am the way I am. Most people
who know me, who ever done work with me. I'm
not a money hound. I'm not sitting there give me
it as and you better get no. I only ask
people to pay for my time. The truth is free
(55:23):
should be because see if what I'm doing I'm doing
for money then see there's a motivation.
Speaker 4 (55:32):
See the second that.
Speaker 3 (55:34):
I started doing what I'm doing and I knew where
I was going with it, I knew I was going
to have to divorce myself from all human everything, because
that's how to get you.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
They gets you with the human.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
With the family, with the friends, with the money, with
the cars, the job, the umbrella package for your retirement,
that kidney your mom needs, that living your daughter has.
That's failing it. You got to remove yourself from all
of that because you can't be influenced by anything. That's
(56:10):
why I don't talk money for anyone. That's why I'm
so grateful that God brought Odell, because he gives about
the details. I can't. I can only care about the truth.
My relationship is to the truth and making sure that
the truth gets to where it goes. If I am
corruptible in any way, how can I ask anybody.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
To believe me?
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Implicitly? That's right, And the truth is I was down
for the fuck shit. I would already be a trillionaire
by now because that I am, and that I can
do be the level that I could have gone to.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
If I was down for the cruelty.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
Well, jay Z would be afraid of me because he'd
be waiting for me to set him up like he set.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
Up everybody else. I'm smarter than all of these people,
and they know it.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Like what do you have to lose? Like do you
have what do you have to lose?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
If my son's legacy, my son died because he was
my son?
Speaker 4 (57:31):
Do you speak on that sure?
Speaker 2 (57:36):
Like you said it was your son.
Speaker 4 (57:38):
He died because of.
Speaker 3 (57:39):
You, was targeted because he's my son, like he was
about to he was working on his EP. I bought
Dhiladelphia for him so he.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
Didn't have to sign to a company because I knew
what it was going to do.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
He interned at Rock Nation m HM, and they approached
him to sacrifice me.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
He got caught up in a case.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
He went into the system, and when he got out
and got to the Halfway House, we moved. I moved
to us here. I saw his death when he was nineteen.
I moved us here to stop it, to event, to
prevent it, to avoid it, right, And it happened anyway.
(58:40):
And see that's when I knew that Kanye's mom. Kanye
would have never wanted Dona dead, not even by natural causes.
I was happy when he finally accept because they sacrifice
(59:02):
your loved ones, whether you.
Speaker 4 (59:04):
Agree or not.
Speaker 3 (59:06):
See, sometimes you agree and they put you in position,
you know, but sometimes you disagree and they take them
anyway to show you what the harm is.
Speaker 4 (59:28):
You know, it's Giovanni. His death is why I do
what I do.
Speaker 7 (59:49):
And that's what they want to ask Jack, because that
triggered something in you at the time that happened. Do
you feel if he was still with us today, that
this crusader on he's.
Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
With us right now exactly. He's walking with me on
this every step of the way. I don't understand why
people rely on science to disprove God but won't believe
it when they have the evidence in their face.
Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Energy does not die, it doesn't dissipate, It only transfers.
We don't lose anyone, we lose access to them physically,
Spiritually they're still here, They're still around. See, we don't
(01:00:40):
want to believe in spirituality because spirituality holds us accountable
before our choices. We were talking about this a little earlier,
about how the devil tricked everybody into believing that he
wasn't real so they wouldn't realize they were being possessed
by him.
Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
If it was all you, you chose it, then there's
no one else to blame but me. But you remember,
there used to be an old saber. The devil made
me do it. The devil made me do it. We
don't hear people say that anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
No, we just hear mental health, mental health, mental health,
mental health. Why is it that we live in a
spiritual realm filled with nothing but pure magic created by
God and we don't want to acknowledge it? Why do
we not believe the demon possession is real, real life
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!