July 15, 2025 • 62 mins
All On Front Street Episode 4- Front Street Fumbles: Beyoncé’s Burglary & Umar’s Unrest:
In this week’s All On Front Street, Jaguar Wright and Wolfgang Amadeuz dig into two hot‑button controversies: the reported smash‑and‑grab of Beyoncé’s unreleased hard drives in Atlanta—was it a genuine heist, a clever P.R. ploy, or simply overhyped sympathy bait?—and the growing storm around Dr. Umar Johnson’s alleged sexual misconduct. Jaguar argues that the Beyoncé story barely merits airtime and questions the narrative being spun, while Wolfgang unpacks the pattern of influencer image control. Then, they shift gears to Dr. Umar’s scandal, exploring the allegations, their implications for his movement, and whether this too is a distraction from deeper community issues. Tune in for unfiltered takes, sharp analysis, and the front‑row perspective you won’t hear anywhere else
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In this week’s All On Front Street, Jaguar Wright and Wolfgang Amadeuz dig into two hot‑button controversies: the reported smash‑and‑grab of Beyoncé’s unreleased hard drives in Atlanta—was it a genuine heist, a clever P.R. ploy, or simply overhyped sympathy bait?—and the growing storm around Dr. Umar Johnson’s alleged sexual misconduct. Jaguar argues that the Beyoncé story barely merits airtime and questions the narrative being spun, while Wolfgang unpacks the pattern of influencer image control. Then, they shift gears to Dr. Umar’s scandal, exploring the allegations, their implications for his movement, and whether this too is a distraction from deeper community issues. Tune in for unfiltered takes, sharp analysis, and the front‑row perspective you won’t hear anywhere else
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/jaguar-wright-uncensored--6273880/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All on Front Street is where the truth takes center
stage and no topic gets toughed away. This is Unapologetic, Unfiltered,
a podcast that puts the real out front, where the
conversations that matter, stories they don't want told, and the
voices the mainstream tries to silence. From entertainers and authors
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off limits and no conversation is too raw. If it's
(00:22):
shaking culture, exposing industry games, or breaking.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Generational curses, it's going on Front Street.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Expect both interviews, street wise commentary, behind the scenes revelations,
and moments that'll make you laugh, gash, or rethink everything
you thought you knew.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Is it safe to come out now?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I guess I guess so.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I don't know. I feel like we're about to head
for a nuclear holocaust. I just want to know where's
the best seating and who has the fans.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
When the damn thing dropped, I'm gonna just be outside,
button aked.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm just gonna wait for up for them.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'd rather be right there at the epicenter, don't I
wasn't supposed to, cous God, I'm gonna edit that out,
but anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We're gonna edit it out, or maybe we should just
start all over again.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, no, no, that's cool. Let's keep it going. Don't trip.
It's all okay.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, I'm just gonna be walking around at piece like whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Back in the day, that was a real threat when
we were When I was in junior high, I remember
that because that we were just getting out the Cold War,
like that was a real threat when people used talk
about that as kids, we were talking about, yeah, what if,
what if? What if a new drop or what if?
You like real talk we talk about that. I remember
(01:45):
talking about that with one of my white classmates in
seventh grade, and he was like, you know what you
can do?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You just gotta walk around. Ain't know nothing you could do.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
If it's you know, you better be close to the
epicenter if anything.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
When you were in seventh grade, I was in ninth grade.
Mm hm, and I was already in boarding school.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So and I was on the East Coast. I was
in Jersey boarding school.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Is that a school where they they paddled you or
something or boarding?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, that means that I had to leave my home
and I had to go away, and I had to
live on a campus in the dormitory with a bunch
of weird holes. And I worked at the cafeteria and
I was there on a scholarship.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And you want, you want to hear something funny?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
What I remember I was I was talking to my
son when he was little, and I said, uh. And
I was talking to my brother and my son was there,
and he was like, you know, kindergarten, first grade. And
I said, yeah, I'm gonna, uh, I want to try
to put him in private school. And he started laughing.
My son started laughing, Why why are you laughing? He's like,
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you said private school. I said, yeah, I'm gonna try
to put you in private school. He said what kind
of school is that? And he started laughing and I said,
why are you laughing? He said, is that a school
for your privates?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Lord have mercy? How old was he?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Maybe? Five?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Okay, you want you want to hear something else? But
I am interested in your boarding school. No you're not,
No I am because.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I crashed out.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I want to know, Well, that needs to be a
whole episode, like.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh no, no, no no, because that's a part of
my past that I'd rather leave in my past. What
I will say, was is my boarding school career ended
with lies written about me? Like people have been trolling
me my whole life.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Gee, just part of what you wrote in the book
for no, no, no, that that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, no, that was.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No that was grade school.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So that was great.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
She wrote an excerpt and uh in Megan's book.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Uh, tell the Truth, I wrote the forward.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, and yeah that so that happened before.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah that was that was fourth grade. Wow, that was
fourth grade.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So see that's why I said it. Well, you ain't
got it, see, And that's the thing. Everything ain't for everybody,
and that's the beauty of it. You ain't got to
share it if you ain't, if you don't want to know,
I can share it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's just no, I can share it. It's just it was.
You know, I was very volatile in my anger when
I was younger. I was messed with a lot, I
was picked with a lot, I was trolled a lot.
There was a lot of stuff that happened, And when
I think back to it now, I'm grateful that all
of that happened because it was like I was being
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prepared for what I'm living through now and It's funny
because even at forty eight years old, the idea that
there are a bunch of weirdo adults moving about, moving around,
still trolling me, and still lying on me, and still bothering,
you know, trying to bother me in some way. And
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I'm glad that I get to look back at moments
when you know, I lost my cool, and I did.
I lost my cool on the dean of my dormitory,
j Like, I literally pulled the towel rack off the
wall in the bathroom in the lobby where you know,
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we had devotional where the sitting room was the TV room,
and we had the payphones there on the wall for
people to be able to meet calls and all of that.
And I went into that bathroom that was there in
that public area, snatched the tower rack off the wall,
busted the office where where you know my dean was,
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and I went to work on her ass because she
had round a bunch of salacious lies about me all
in my records. She was trying to, you know, find
a way to revoke my scholarship, said that I had
been places on campus doing things that I hadn't been doing.
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You know, there was all kinds of stuff that happened.
I was injured while I was there. I had chemical
burns on my lungs, and they wouldn't let me go
to the hospital because they didn't want to give my
family the ability to sue them. You know, I've been
through so many different, you know, crazy things that have
happened in my life. But just like Injustices, and once again,
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here I am forty eight years old, and I see
that it was all really preparing me to be ready
for these moments in my life. Because if everything had
gone my way, what if everything had gone great when
I was younger, what if everything was okay and then
things just started unraveling and going nuts as I got older,
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it could have been enough to push me over the edge.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, at a.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Long time, rather than understanding that sometimes these things happen.
Sometimes we get targeted, sometimes God selects us to be examples,
and we have to know how to deal with that pressure.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yep, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, and yeah,
you you've definitely been through a lot, and it's still
it's still it's still going on right now. In regards
to all the gas lighting and uh defaming and things
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like that, and I know you, so I know how you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Deal with it. But it's it's it's it's sad.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
But you know, I think God will not put you
in a situation so that you couldn't handle it. So
and you you you got the tough skin to to
deal with it. Now, let me let me pivot. Since
I talked about tough skin, I wanted to bring up
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to two stories that I just saw. They came across
my news desk. There was a human skin teddy bear
that was found at a California bus stop.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Did you hear about that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, this is crazy right, it's a human skin teddy bear.
Let me just give you the cliff note. Human human
skin teddy bear at a California bus stop.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It leads to an arrest.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So I saw the article some time ago, a couple
of days ago, and they said that there was a.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Teddy bear that was covered in human skin.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They don't know who said it there, and then they
found out who sat it there.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Now they said there's an arrest.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So Sam Bernardino County Corner investigators confirmed that the macabre
bear was in fact a toy that contained no human tissue.
So they said the sheriff's deputy is arrested an alleged
prankster on Monday today or yesterday, accusing him of planting
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a creepy teddy bear that looked like it was made
of bloody human tissue. So this guy, Villa Nuwava, was
booked on suspicions of causing a needless emergency response by
planning a phony bear the evidence or whatever. Yeah, all
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this happened in Victorville. We all know about Victorville, but
it's at a bus stop near a gas station off
a Bear Valley Road.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean, it isn't victor Treville, where uh the Bates
Motel for that movie was.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Is that Is that where it was? I don't it
might be.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I don't know, but I tell you one thing. Every
time I've gone through Victorville, Phil, I've gotten the same,
you know, creepy feeling. It's just it's just it's it's
a very creepy town. It's a very creepy town. I
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just yeah, I don't want to, you know. And this
is where this happened, this fake morbid teddy bear experience.
And apparently a human being decided to do this as
a prank to see how law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Would respond, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Okay, that that sounds like somebody that's very bored.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
People are weird, man, No, it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Sounds like somebody that watched Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It puts the e lotion in this in the basket,
it puts the lotion on its skin or else it
gets the o's again like it's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah. No.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And speaking of weird, I saw a news article that
dropped today. I don't know how true this is. It
says the Annabelle Doll. I don't know if you heard
about this Annabelle Doll. The handler. His name was Dan Rivera.
He died suddenly at fifty four while touring with the
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Haunted object, so they said he was a paranormal investigator.
He died while traveling across the US with the real,
purportedly haunted doll that inspired the horror movie series Anna Belle,
and he died of unknown causes on Sunday while handling
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the doll known as America's most haunted object.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He just died all of a sudden, And that's all
I really want to go. But yet, what do you
think of that?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think people should stop playing with the devil that's
what I think. You know, this this doll, this movie,
it's a creative fear it honestly, it reminds me of
when I was a kid and the whole poltergeist phenomenon
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in the movies. And you know, there was one of
the actors I believe, that passed away from being terrified
while on set, and people were saying that work there,
that whatever the optical illusions that they were creating, that
they had become real in some way and that they
were literally scaring people to death. So to me, it
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just sounds reminiscent of that, you know, pulture guyst in
the eighties and now Annabella in the two thousands, forty
years and the same lessons need to be learned and applied.
Stop playing with things that you don't want to be real,
Stop playing with it.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
The guy, he was an Army vet.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
He was working for the New England Society for psyche
Psychic Research.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He was working for them when he died.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
They said his death came months after he achieved viral
fame on TikTok by posting about his paranormal tour and
find things on the historic Doll. Yeah, man, I wouldn't
dabble into any of that.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I'm not even eating pork because I don't even want
the tricker nosis that's comes with it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Let alone.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm not going to be rocking around with this raggedy
and doll that that's connected to some paranormal attacks. I'm cool,
I'm cool. Well, you know, you know, you figure he
would know better. He sounds like he was hispanic, but
you figure that's something you know.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Anyway, Look, at this point in time, I'm starting to
believe that people will do anything for money, and people
will do anything for fame, and they really don't care
about their well being. They just don't. And I you know,
I don't care what people say, what people think. My
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godmother said it best you knock at the devil's door
long enough. One day he's going to answer, and he's
gonna pull you in. Might to choose when you get
to leave, if you get to leave it all. And
it's uh, it's real.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
People like playing.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, now you don't, you don't. You don't mess around
with that. We gi board stuff you don't mess around with.
Don't play with none of that. I'm sorry, I miss
me with that. It's the reason why you know, it's
the reason why certain people handle those types of things,
the reason why they were shaman and things of that,
and and you know, ancient societies, prehistoric societies or societies
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before you know, it's a reason why. But like you said,
people don't care. Speaking of speaking of not caring, now
I can get into two stories. We're gonna get into
two more. And either we're gonna speak of not caring.
We goin to get into this Umar Johnson not caring
about his uh his I'll just say his standing in society,
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or we could care.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We could talk about people not caring.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
About uh Beyonce being robbed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Allegedly what we're gonna talk about first? Real quick? Which
one you want to go first?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know. They all sound crazy, So let's just let's.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Jump with it with this Beyonce stuff because in all honesty,
I heard the story they said that there were five
hard drives missing from a car last week that was
broken into in Atlanta, where Beyonce was performing, And first off,
sounds sounds like cap to me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Why would you leave anything in a car in Atlanta?
Number one? But I mean, first of I don't care.
I'm like, okay, I lost jump drives and hard drives too.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Okay, So yeah, I just I just said, you know,
what's your take on that whole story?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I know you heard more about it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I just I mean, I've heard what I've heard. A
lot of people have had a lot of things to say.
For me, my first impressions were cat pr Son, insurance, scam,
inside job, anything to quiet all of the bad press
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that Rock Nation is getting regarding Ramier and the DNA
test that's coming up this week, that's demanded to be
taken by this week, and de Morey and Javon Hadley
and the suit against Desiree Press. Like I think you know,
that's just initially where it went for me. And it
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was wild because before anybody, before we went online to
look at anything, like everyone was saying the same thing.
For me, what I'm not understanding is is what makes
this news. I don't understand what makes this news? And
not only what makes this news, but what makes this
news a week after the concerts, Like this happened before
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the concert happened. This happened before the performances. Why was
this not addressed until after the performances? And let's be
very clear those performances. It popped up very last minute,
as far as I know, because I really don't follow
these people, but usually when they got stuff going on,
they're dominating the algorithm, They're putting all kinds of stuff,
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and they got all kinds of bots sharing all kinds
of things. It's just kind of just like whoop. It
popped up and then people posted some pictures from what
I saw. But the truth is this, I didn't see
a whole lot of reaction to this show being in Atlanta,
not the kind that you would expect in the United States. Actually,
it got more fanfare in Paris than it did, in
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my opinion, anywhere in the United States. So yeah, it's
like all of a sudden, and maybe it got overshadowed
because of all of the talk of Ramera, because of
all of the talk of Nicki Minaj, because of all
of the talk of you know, justice for the Hadleys
and everything that's going on with that. Maybe that's why
we didn't see it. Maybe they needed to create a
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sympathy campaign so people could feel bad for them in
some way. But whatever the case may be, when you
listen to the things that they have, you know that
were taken of what was mentioned. None of this stuff
is really a big deal. Number one, what are dances
and choreographers doing holding the drives with your music on
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it and plans for setlists and all of it? Like,
what would be the purpose were they listening to it
so that they could work on the choreography. They wouldn't
need the drives for that. You could just you know,
cut them out, you know, a little jump drive or
something and like that. You know what I'm saying. You
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could have emailed the music so that they could have
just listened to it from a Google drive. You know,
they wouldn't need the physical drive for any of that.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You could have on your phone if you have an iPhone.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You could exactly somebody. Yeah, if you're trusting somebody with
the actual drives, then why not just send them a copy?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's first thing, right, Yeah, it just it just.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It all sounds super suspicious. Not only that people are
sitting up there. Oh, the music is worth so much?
Unreleased unreleased music, what is it worth?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If it's unreleased, what is it worth?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It doesn't have any value until it's been released. You
can't judge the value of unreleased music by the amount
of money that you've made. You can speculate, but what
if the record tank and it's not like records don't tank,
even for big artists, So it's what's the monetary value exactly?
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And more importantly, if these were all things that were
planned around shows and songs and stuff that you were
planning to share with the public and the future or whatever,
then that means that music is already protected. It's I mean,
if you're allowing it to be a part of production,
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that means it's already copywritten. That means it should already
be registered. You know what I mean. Yeah, it should
already be protected. You should already have it, you know,
your bds and all of that stuff set up. I mean,
this is a professional operation.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
So I'm glad you said professional operation. Speaking of shouldn't
there be encryptions on the drive?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Password? Basic passwords for the drives?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
You can't access it unless you've got like I have
all types of drives.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can put passwords on them. I can encrypt them.
Come on, y'all stop got like this.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Is Yeah, it's just too much. It's too much pomp
and circle circumstance around something that should have been protected,
whether it was stolen or not. And let's just be honest.
Whoever steals it, wherever you try to sell it or
stream it, the metadata and all of these things that
are attached to it's gonna lead right back to whoever
got it. They're not really going to make a dime
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off of it, So it's there's nothing there. Like when
when they started saying things that were being when they said,
what was it the air pod headphones or speakers or
air pop, like like, are you kidding me? Like that?
That's that? You know? This is petty. This is petty
theft at best it is. It's petty theft. We're not
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talking grand larceny. We're not talking you know, And and
how is that news? And why would it be necessary
for nine one one calls to be released about this,
Like no, no, nobody goes through all this over this stuff.
There are people's cars in Atlanta, in Houston, in Philly
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and LA that get broken into every day every day.
I know plenty of artists who have gone out of
town and got robbed. And guess what, you don't hear
about it. They don't say anything about it. When entertainers
are making these kinds of small deals, public knowledge it's
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because they want people to look at it, they want
people to have a reaction to it, and in my opinion,
they needed something to calm down the DNA test stories,
all of them bad press that Rock Nation is getting.
And you know the simple fact that apparently the Missus
(23:54):
Carter fans really don't want to see her husband on stage.
They really don't want that around. So it's yeah, I
don't know, it's it's given pr stunt, it's given sympathy campaign.
And unless there was something more valuable, well, if there
was something more valuable that there they're not talking about,
(24:16):
then it sounds like insurance settlements, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah. But all in all, it's it's not news. So
I don't understand why people are making such a big
deal about it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, it's not news. It's not news.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Umar Johnson's story is more.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
News, Umar Johnson, You're right, Lumar Johnson's situation is bad.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Let me just tee it up real quick. Now. I
know some things, and.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I'm I've met Umar some time ago.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
We have some mutual acquaintances. You already know.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
He he's you know, to me, I have no problems
with him. He They did ask him about you on
the Blue Couch and he said, no comment. I don't
think he's trying to thrown his shade or anything like that.
You know, I don't I don't see him as what wait,
what what'd you say? You don't remember they asked him
(25:21):
about you on the couch and he said, no comment.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Mm hmm, well yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
But but also I know I know the type of
brother he is, and you know, I just don't like
this what's going on right now. There's there's a there,
there's two things that have happened where he it seems
like he's being targeted.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Where right now, let let's just play it. Let me
set it up.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Those he basically being accused of. Everybody know he's a thought.
Everybody know his thought.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So there's there's someone who came out and said that
he was in a relationship with them and they're trying
to air him out and this was done on He
doesn't want to say the guy's name, but the guy
name is Lennon Honor.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And I actually Lennon Honor.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Featured me in a documentary sometime. Yeah, he featured me.
A lot of us from the LA Conscious community, like
you know, it was a hip hop doc. It was
about how hip hop messed up everyone's life, and I
was there to like, hip hop did mess up everybody's life,
you know, So he kind of had me on a's
like the you.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Know, the opposing thing right.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Right, right right. But overall Lennon after that just kind
of went and on just he got obsessed with exposing
doctor Umar and I was like, okay, it's kind of
his whole channel, like his channel, but back in the
day it used to be his lectures. And I actually
got wind of him, and that's how I reached out
to him, and you know, actually was in communication with him,
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met him and his wife, his kids are cool, whatever.
Then all of a sudden, he just went straight, uh, Umar,
I'm talking about Umar.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
We had to check him because he started talking about Griff.
I remember. I remember that one time he mentioned something
about Griff.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
He mentioned something about them saying fight the power and
who's the power.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And then he was making some correlation to Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
At the time, it was the New Boys when they
had that one song called Jerk You're a Jerk, and
he turned it into some homosexual thing and I was
just like, come on, bro, you you're you're you know, reaching, reaching, preaching.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like a mug.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
But anyway, this one woman who decides she wants to
air out doctor Umar. She went on his platform and
I guess and and and was.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Talking about what what what what? What? What happened Umar?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So I'm gonna play what she what what Umar response
was is to this whole situation. I'll pause it when
you want, just let me know. All right, So this
is what what I do.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
My brothers and sisters without being too vulgar.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Those three private contacts basically consisted of her gummy bearing
my shanga. Oh god, wow, she gummy beared the shanga.
That's basically what she did. It was a jump off.
Could rat jump off?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's all.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
It was filatia, three philasions. I came to visit.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
She wanted to police the prince of Pan Africanism. So
it happened three filatio sessions. I'm not proud to say that.
And then, of course, quote unquote caregiver. I put caregiver
in quotes because she did anything but care for my mother. Anyway,
this was the first week of March Sweden. I come
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back from Sweden. I'm disappointed. Can't work with this woman.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
No more.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Can't take care of my mother, I can't mess with you.
I started to distance.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Myself from her.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
On June the twenty fifth, the last moon that we had,
I do my art of dialogue interview. I'm coming out
of my Art of dialogue interview and my phone is
blowing up. There's a woman on Pastor Bussey's page claiming
that y'all was in a two and a half year relationship,
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that you were in love with her.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
That you wanted to marry her, that you wanted her
to have your child.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
You were in a two and a half year relationship
with her, You were in love with her, you wanted
to marry her, You want her to have your child.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You were half here, relationship, Go ahead, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
One more time for the cheaps?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Two and a half year relationship with her, You wanted
to marry her, you wanted you was in love with her,
and he wanted her to be your wife.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Brothers and sisters, I have women who look way better.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Than her, who have done more for me in my
life than she ever could. Who I wasn't in love with,
who I didn't want to make my wife, Who I
didn't want to have my baby?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
So this moment, this Kansas.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
City thought, this Jasabel, this jump off, this smashing grab.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Spent three times with me, not three nights, because I
never spent the night. I never spent the night with
her in my life. I never spent a night with
her in my life. I saw her three times and
three times, all of which, if I'm not mistaken, were
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during the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Three times,
and I'm in love with her three times. I want
to marry her three times. I want her to have
my baby three times. And we were in a two
and a half year relationship. Brothers and sisters, brothers and
brothers and sisters. Okay, brothers and sisters, but it gets worse,
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she told Pastor Bussy. And let me say this about
Pastor Bussy, Rainbow Bunny. Pastor Bussy, the Rainbow Bunny has
been cyberstalking me.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
For ten years.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
People have asked me to put a stop to him. Legally,
I had two attorneys who sent him cease and desist,
and clearly no, those attorneys do not live in Utah,
where he lives. M those attorneys did not live in Utah,
so there was no follow up. I recently consulted with
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a utah who told me I have a serious case against.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Number one, for someone who's been heavily gas lit, for
someone who's been heavily cyberstock, for someone who's had to
deal with all kinds of invasion and privacy in real
life and in real time. I understand it's frustration, Like
I totally get it. There's nothing worse than a stranger
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being able to go on line and just make up
whatever they want to make up about you, or take
whatever details about your life and remix them and t pain,
chop and scream and turn them into whatever you want
to turn them into for their profit and for someone
you know else's entertainment. You know, it sucks. It sucks
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because it just kind of feels like you're an ever
living character in someone's virtual dunking booth. You know, you know,
you get tied to this virtual chair and people get
to stand around while people just throw stuff at you
and just keep dunking you and dunking you and dunking you.
And it's all done without your permission, without your acknowledgments,
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or even your compensation. Because the kind of money that
some of these people make off of doing this stuff
is substantial, Like people have made a substantial amount of
money lying on me, defaming my character, defrauding me. I mean,
as it stands right now, there are three grown men
online right now doing this very thing. So I get it,
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get being upset about it, and I've lashed out. I've
had all kinds of things to say about it. But
this is my issue. Where does the woman fit in?
Because she wasn't the one that's been stalking him and
harassing him for all of these years. This woman, at
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some point in time, you invited her into your life
and the first thing she does is go and run
off to y op and you're sitting here talking about filatio.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
O god, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I just I just want to get that clear, because
it all sounds either this was an orchestrated plan all along, yeah,
or you crossed the line with someone that you probably
shouldn't cross the line with, right, And I can understand
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both and see both. But let's just let's just see
where this is going. Brothers and sisters see the Rainbow Bunny.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
But I'm going to have to fly out to Utah
a couple of times to appear in court. So this
attorney told me that if I give him the retainer,
he will begin the investigation on Pastor Bussy. And after
looking at Pastor Bussey's YouTube page, he says he is
quite certain that I have a case for slander, I
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have a case for libel, I have a case for defamation.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
And he also said.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Because he's been making money off of my name for
ten years, that he can be made to pay me
back all the money that he made in my name
and that we can lay siege to any property that
he owns. I told him that the man is broke,
he don't have any property. He basically pays his bills
by making doctor Umar defamation films.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
He said, well, if that's the case, if he has
a job. If he has a job.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Then his wages can be garnished until he satisfies the
balance of the settlement from court. So, Brothers and sisters,
I have finally realized that I have to have a
doctor Umar defense fund.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I have to have a doctor Umar.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Defense fund, not a building fund.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And the reason I have to have a doctor Umar
defense fund is not because I have to defend myself.
I have to have a doctor Umar defense fund. So
I can foul suit against people who think it's okay
to constantly slander my name and attack my mother.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I mean, I'm not mad at him, though.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Attack I'm not mad.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yep, gotta protect your name.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Attack my mother, brothers and sisters. This woman told past
the Bussy the rainbow Bunny for you two being struggle streamer.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
She told that I went down on her brothers and sisters.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
I'm willing to take a lot of tective tests, brothers
and sisters.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'm willing to take.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
A lot of techtive tests.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Okay, brothers and sisters, willing to take a lot of
techtive tests.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
When that woman.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
After gummy bearing my shango stick that okay, took off
her underwear and I'm telling you, brothers and sisters, and
I don't mean no disrespect to feminine energy. I don't
mean no disrespect to feminine energy. I don't mean no
disrespect to feminine energy. When she took her brothers and sisters,
she smelled like something crawled up inside of her.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
And oh, okay, I'm not okay, I'm sorry that that no.
I you know, I'm glad they didn't have social media when.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Martin Luther King was alive because I know. I'm sorry.
Go ahead, m No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm just I'm cringing while you're talking, that's all. I'm
just cringing.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Go ahead, like he's the the principal pan Africanism, the
prince of Pineapple Pizza.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Now, let me stop. I got respect. I got respect like.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You do somebody.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I wish.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I wish he did too, you know, That's how I feel.
I wish he had the same resk for himself that you.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I don't Why why put yourself in a situation, Why
even go in on his system like that? Why had
your shango stick in a in a in a mouth?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Why you ain't married? I don't know. I got a questions.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, now see here we go. Now this is the thing,
and this is where it gets tricky in this whole situation,
because this is a person that you're saying, you're really
not saying how she came to your life. He's hinting
around it, but he's really attacking, you know, the fact
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that she put these stories out there about him. Do
I think she's lying about everything? Maybe not. Do I
think she's telling the truth about everything? Absolutely not. Do
I think She's captain, most likely considering that she went
to like his number one, Like if he is the
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superman of Pan Africanism, then she definitely ran to his
lex luthor. So and you know the lex luthor this uh,
this linen person, mister sheets. Uh, he used to like
a piece of kryptonite.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yep, the gummy and the shaga is the kryptonite.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
To get somebody of his stature to get online and
to carry this out in this fashion. Like, if I'm correct,
a good share of his audience are women.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Majority of them they're women.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
So I just yeah, you can say no, you know,
no disrespect to feminine energy. But that was with all
due disrespect. And there's no way that any woman who
you come to contact with, Like, I'm just sitting here
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thinking to the people who he's been you know, I
don't want to say pandering promoting his school too, uh huh.
How they're supposed to feel comfortable with continuing to represent
Like like, if I'm listening to you talk this way
about somebody who you had your penis in their.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Mouth, Oh god, I can.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Only imagine what's going to happen at that school. What
happens when you fall out with you know, one of
the students' parents. What happens if one of the student's
parents doesn't like the way you're repommending their child. What if,
you know, like, what are you going to do? Are
you going to get on social media and talk about
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how the mom you know has a safety pin in
her stockings and how the kid you know doesn't have
new like you like it's it's the wrong way to
go for someone like him. It would be the wrong
way to go for somebody like me. And I'm known
to jag out, like I have a reputation of flaming
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on people, and even I see the danger. And I mean,
you've known me now for a little bit. I mean
you got we got a little bit of time, and
we got a little bit of history. And how many
times have I stopped myself from saying things? A lot
because I realized exactly how bad a detractor that will
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be for my agenda, for what I'm trying to get done. Yeah,
And it's just this, this is not a good leadership
move now for somebody that's talking about leadership, for somebody,
somebody that's talking about the importance of the preservation of
our race, for somebody that's talking about all of this
stuff like, this isn't good. Sound like Bishop you sound
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like more like Bishop don wan Gee. Like you don't
sound like the principle of a school. You don't sound
like the founder of an educational institution. You don't sound
like somebody who's really like you. You don't sound like
what you It ain't right. It's just it's not right.
And but once again it's it's a catch twenty two.
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What's happening to him is very wrong, and he's justified
to have this kind of of outrage. Like, clearly these
people push some kind of buttons. There is something that
she said and something that she did. But maybe we
need to listen further because wasn't there a situation where
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wellness checks or something would call to his mother's house
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, they they they were there.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
I think they're doing all types of stuff to just
get up under his skin, more than get up under
his skin. Besides, I know I'm tally in what I
said about my son earlier about the I just when
I when I donated to his to doctor Umar's school
because I was like, hey man, I'll work at your school.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I have a background in it at the time.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I just finished the project working on l A unified
doing all the wireless there.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's like, yeah, if you need an IT guy, man,
I'm here. Let me know. In fact, I got a son,
he's in kindergarten.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I make sure he gets there. I want him to
come to your school. You know that that you know
how long ago that was.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
My son just graduated my school.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
So let's just say you dodged a bullet.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
All right, let's let's finish listening.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
We ain't gonna go to I got some other information.
I'm we're gonna wrap this stuf because I got to
see some other information. But yeah, private school, private interactions.
And here's what he has to say about the fishmail.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
You have a smell of fish tank that somebody ain't
cleaned in like two years.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
They got gold fishing there.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
They got all kinds of fish and it ain't been
cleaned in years.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
That's what she He smelled like. God, she took off
those funky ass draws.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Herd draws were so old and so funky that I
thought it was a wife beater, that's how stretched out.
Hers were so old and so funky. Her underwear was
a sling shot. God, raws were so funky and so stink.
I'm brothers and sisters that I thought it was a
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wife beater brothers and sisters, And I don't.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Mean no dis so when she said.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Down, after she got finished swallowing the shango, she said,
it's my child. After she got finished swallowing the Prince
of Pan Africanism, she said, it's my one more time.
And I'm sitting there and I'm saying to myself, how
do I get out of this? Because it ain't no
way under God's have that king con consciousness, face, no tongue, lips,
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ears or caroline.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
It is going anywhere near that cootie cat brother.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Okay, okay, I had the balls didn't stop it.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
In fact, yeah, I mean that that is not becoming
of a This just.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Ain't a good look. It's not a good look. It doesn't.
It didn't sound like somebody that's a leader. It sounds
like somebody is the leader in a roast. Like he
sounds more like a comedian. Then he sounds like somebody
for the community to take seriously as a leader. And
uh and all of.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
All of our older day in order to be a
great leader, you gotta know how to control your your
your your d your sexual all you got it.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
You gotta know how to control that.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
See that's the thing. Is she one of like? Was
she a supporter? Like I would like to have more
understanding of everything that's going on. But for you to
be saying all of these things, for you to be
talking about her, you know, her smell and all of
this and all of that you're telling me, when when
did he notice that on the third time she went
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and and you know, gave him tribute to his shango
stick as he would say, like, when did you realize
that she she stank? Was it the first time? And
they kept letting her go down? Because the truth is
is if the woman is unclean in another regions, what
makes you think her mouth is any better?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Like it's she she she she swallowed the shanango or gummy,
the shango stick and uh he didn't touch the uh
waters of a noon right or the waters or you know, well.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
That's just like a guy saying that he got a
big from a crackhead and it was okay because he
used the condom. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I gotta edit that out. You you over here doing
a whole lot. That's I know.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I know, I know dudes. I know dudes that used
to brag about that back in the day who sold
drugs and and you know they were they were pharmaceutical
dealers and they would sit up there. Yeah man, I
had me some stuff earlier. Yeah yeah, yeah, mister k
my nove and I hit it from your back. It
got busted me your nut people, YadA, YadA, YadA. It
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was a crackhead, but they thought it was okay because
they used the condom. And to me, like it feels
just as greasy as that. But once again, like how
did this woman get into your life? And more importantly,
if this woman is a reckless and she's doing all
of this kind of stuff and you disapprove of her,
when did she get your approval to be good enough
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to be around your mom? Like, when did she get.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Your that's a problem. I think that's how she got
into his life. I think she was okay. So the
game looks like he's one of the guys is like,
you know, uh, single mom, you got kids, and you
know a lot of times his boys and their special needs,
they have ADHD and he you know, I have his book,
(49:09):
I got Doctor Martin's book, and he said, EIGHTYHD really sense,
I ain't no damn daddy at home, right, So he
wants to be the daddy.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
He'll be the daddy.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
He gonna be everybody daddy.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
He's probably you know, yeah, hitting all these single moms
or whatever. He probably has a network of single moms
around around around the country.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
And isn't that what his school was supposed to be.
For a school for single moms to send their children.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
It's not for single moms. It's gonna be like.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
It's for kids that it'll be you know, boys on
one side, girls once I believe, or something like that.
It's gonna have it's not gonna be integrated with the
sexist which is a good thing to a degree, because
you know, you want your kids to focus, you want
the women, you want the men to focus this, we
want the women to focus.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
But I'm just bringing it down like this.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
I think he has a bunch of single mothers that
he has on speed down and this was one of them,
and she maybe threw her services out there, like, well,
I could take care of your mom too, because that's
what we were talking about his mom being.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
He's taking care of his mom.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
Since twenty eighteen, That's what he says, right, So he
needs help with that, and she was supposed to help,
and I think that was an issue with she.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Not doing a good job at it. She also has connection,
not connection.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
She has his information for his personal and the school account.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
But why would she have information? How did she get
to listen to me? He talking about he got to
fly this person around, put her up in hotels and
do all of this and do all of that. Why
not just call a home health aid service?
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Why not just hire somebody who specializes in this? Like
I was a home healthy when I was a kid,
right after I had Giovanni. From sixteen to like eighteen
years old, I was working as a home health aid.
I also worked as a living so I understand. You
know how this works. I did my training. You have
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to know how to do all of this stuff. Like
there was a situation where I think apparently she said
the mother had fallen and she had slid down and
she couldn't lift her up. Why was there no proper
anything in that house? And it's just if you could
spend all of that money to fly this woman back
and forth, if you could spend all of this money
(51:35):
to put her up in the hotels, you're having intimate
relationships with her, and yet you're not. No, it just
it sounds like a lot of this could have been avoided.
And I just don't understand why someone of his intelligence
would put himself in this position. I mean, and don't
get me wrong, I'm not judging. I have had all
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kinds of gas lighting situations in my life where people
have been brought into my life specifically to create havoc,
Where people were sent into my life specifically to try
to find a way to have an intimate engagement with
me so that they could turn around and use it
online and shame me and slander me. I know how
it happens. I know that it can happen. My question
(52:19):
is how did this happen to him?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:23):
And I hate the fact that even if this was
just a bad choice that he made, that it became
new ammunition for somebody who was clearly obsessed with him,
Like this is obsession. Anybody who can talk about the
same person for ten years like they there was something
(52:45):
about did this person literally pretended to be him to
get his information on bills? Like this is going too far,
that's not investigative journalism. You're not going You are a
class a grand troll and people like that are not
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mentally well. And if they're not mentally ill, then that
means they're being hired by somebody to specifically target another person.
Either one ain't cool. The question is is if you're
gonna get online and you're gonna go out in this
nature and put all of this because you're outraged, maybe
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it is warranted. Without all of the information about how
all of this stuff happened, you're leaving yourself at a disservice.
And not only that, regardless even if all of it
was sympathetic to you, this is not the way for
the man that you say you're supposed to be. And
now look at him, it's just video. At the video,
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he's crashing out. He's crashing out. Listen to what he said.
Listen to what they said. Now you've given content to
all of the people that also troll you and for
the people that don't, now you the meal of the week,
You the happy meal for trolls this week.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Like I'm not even gonna like there's a million jokes
that I could tell there's a million cards that I
could pull, But because I understand what it's like to
be trolled in this manner, I'm not even gonna do it.
I'm not. I'm not. I really feel bad for him,
and I feel bad for his mim because what it
sounds like is is that somebody put a sign on
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his back greenlit him, and they're going after him. And
they're doing that with a lot of people who are
pro black, who are pro black, people who are pro
Black Americans, who are better home, better community, family values,
all of that. And I might not agree with everything
that he says, but I tell you one thing, he
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does a lot less damage to the community then most
c of these rappers that people are celebrating and worshiping,
you know what I mean? And who knows. Maybe maybe
they've been targeting him to make it impossible for him
to collect enough donations to be able to properly raise
money to get to school. Maybe this was maybe he
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got too close. Maybe it was about to happen, and
they created this situation just to make sure that it
didn't happen. I don't know. I just think that people
need to look a little bit deeper than the surface.
And it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Just a yeah, no, no, no it is.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
And I'm we're gonna wrap it on this on this note,
I just happened to look at Lennon Honors Channel and
this is the last video he just dropped Umar Johnson's
half a million dollar Scheme Part seven, Like, bro, don't
you got something else to talk about?
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Is his last name? Walmack?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Well?
Speaker 4 (56:00):
Shoot, hey, hey, he might know him. He might know Barbara.
I mean, he might know Rodney Earl.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Hey, like, because he might know seven. Like it's sad,
it's crazy bad.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
It's three hours, it's over three hours.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like the some of
the weirdos that's talking harass me, doing six and seven
hour lives, telling the same lie over and over again,
trying to get people to believe. Like that's the thing. Like, Honestly,
before we got into this conversation, I was ready to
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go in on him. I was ready to run down
on him. I was ready to clown on him. Because
once again, I won't say that I'm his biggest fan,
because I'm not. But the more I listen, the more
I feel like he's being targeted, he's being gas lit.
And this reaction is an emotional distress breakdown. That's what
it's sounding like to me.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
And that I'm not cool, That's what it was. And no,
I never I'm clowning, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
No, you're not clowning. You laugh, You laughing, no different
than I laughed when I first heard some of this stuff.
But the more that I'm listening to him and the
way that he's going in see, and that's why I said,
if you're not going to be completely transparent, your reaction
should not be online. It just shouldn't. It shouldn't be
online because I hear him editing. He's not saying something.
(57:32):
There's something that he's not saying, because he keeps weighing
in on how disgusting they are, how terrible they are,
what awful people they are. And guess what, all of
that may be true, but unless you're willing to be
completely transparent, you're just gonna get left looking like a
clown and like a crash out and these people are
(57:53):
gonna be emboldened to keep going at you.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
Well, all I got to say is, yeah, I don't
have anything against doctor Lai. In fact, I got his
back if he gets back out here to La you
know where to find me. I know where to find him.
You know, we got mutual connects, you know.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Ross Bob.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
We gotta just chop it up with him, just I
got to chop it up him, just like man man,
just to be like, yo, you know, he's almost done
getting the school.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Together, and I'm not mad at it. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (58:24):
But yeah, they they're definitely there's some people and there's
some situations. There's things that are preventing what it is
that he's trying to do.
Speaker 5 (58:33):
Well.
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Like I said, we you know, whether you agree with
him or not. I mean there's a school out here,
Marcus Garvey School. They suddenly attack that I was working.
You know, I was working for that school. You probably
don't know, but all black school, teaching black the kids,
just black history, and these kids were phenomenal. They were dope.
I have my kids there for summer school and stuff
(58:55):
like that. Man, they do anything to not get us
to have our own. So that's what I would just
top it up with him about that. But in all honestly,
I was clowning. But I'm just like, nah, I got
much respect and I appreciate what he's doing. But Yeah,
like you say, now you're seeing behind the scenes. Now
that you've got a little peak, you kind of know like, yeah,
(59:16):
something else going on.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
Now there's there's definitely something else going on. And the
more that I listened to him, honestly, it just kind
of pulls at my empathy. It's really tugging at my
compassion and my empathy because it's it really does sound
like they're out to get them, and his reaction is
(59:38):
just creating them, you know, that that space that they
need to keep coming after them. And I'm sure a
lot of people are going to be surprised about my
reaction at this because this typically would be the kind
of thing where I would go in. But when I
hear something wrong, I just I can't. I can't not
acknowledge it, you know, uh, because he went after this
(01:00:02):
woman in the most egregious ways and it's so disgusting.
But the thing is it's gonna hurt him with women
overall as a whole. It's gonna make people look at
him sideways because of the things he said and the
lady he set them And apparently this mister Lennon sheets Man,
(01:00:24):
he knew that, and he knew to go he knew
to run in on it. So it's it's yeah, it's
feeling orchestrated, and it's feeling like an attack. And I
wish our people wouldn't be so quick to jump on
the bandwagon of of clowning other people who are in
you know, legitimate distress.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, all right, let's wrap this.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
We're we we we did, We're done. This is the
front street fumble, y'all fumbling on getting this the real news.
I'll just say it like that. But now this is
this is a This is not a fumble for doctor
and what is a fumble for doctor Umar?
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
He shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
It's a fumble for doctor umar Umar.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
It's a fumble for the whole community.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
To you, no, it's definitely that's who's really a fumble
for because once again now people are focusing on division
between our people when we're supposed to be focusing on unity,
and this just adds to you know, us continuing you know,
the divisive you know bullshit. It's it's really sad when
(01:01:30):
you look at it for what it is, but you know,
everybody wants to be entertained. There's millions of views now
based around all of this and nobody's really looking past
what came out of his mouth. They're not looking past that,
they're not seeing the bigger picture. And it's a it's
a it's it's it's like a mural copful. O.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Man, there we go. Another edit.
Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
All right, now, that's all good, beautiful work. We'll see
y'all on the on the flip side.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then don't don't believe the hype
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Is it safe to come out now?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I guess I guess so.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I don't know. I feel like we're about to head
for a nuclear holocaust. I just want to know where's
the best seating and who has the fans.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
When the damn thing dropped, I'm gonna just be outside,
button aked.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm just gonna wait for up for them.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'd rather be right there at the epicenter, don't I
wasn't supposed to, cous God, I'm gonna edit that out,
but anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We're gonna edit it out, or maybe we should just
start all over again.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, no, no, that's cool. Let's keep it going. Don't trip.
It's all okay.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, I'm just gonna be walking around at piece like whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Back in the day, that was a real threat when
we were When I was in junior high, I remember
that because that we were just getting out the Cold War,
like that was a real threat when people used talk
about that as kids, we were talking about, yeah, what if,
what if? What if a new drop or what if?
You like real talk we talk about that. I remember
(01:45):
talking about that with one of my white classmates in
seventh grade, and he was like, you know what you
can do?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You just gotta walk around. Ain't know nothing you could do.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
If it's you know, you better be close to the
epicenter if anything.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
When you were in seventh grade, I was in ninth grade.
Mm hm, and I was already in boarding school.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So and I was on the East Coast. I was
in Jersey boarding school.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Is that a school where they they paddled you or
something or boarding?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, that means that I had to leave my home
and I had to go away, and I had to
live on a campus in the dormitory with a bunch
of weird holes. And I worked at the cafeteria and
I was there on a scholarship.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And you want, you want to hear something funny?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
What I remember I was I was talking to my
son when he was little, and I said, uh. And
I was talking to my brother and my son was there,
and he was like, you know, kindergarten, first grade. And
I said, yeah, I'm gonna, uh, I want to try
to put him in private school. And he started laughing.
My son started laughing, Why why are you laughing? He's like,
(02:58):
you said private school. I said, yeah, I'm gonna try
to put you in private school. He said what kind
of school is that? And he started laughing and I said,
why are you laughing? He said, is that a school
for your privates?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Lord have mercy? How old was he?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Maybe? Five?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Okay, you want you want to hear something else? But
I am interested in your boarding school. No you're not,
No I am because.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I crashed out.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I want to know, Well, that needs to be a
whole episode, like.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Oh no, no, no no, because that's a part of
my past that I'd rather leave in my past. What
I will say, was is my boarding school career ended
with lies written about me? Like people have been trolling
me my whole life.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Gee, just part of what you wrote in the book
for no, no, no, that that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, no, that was.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
No that was grade school.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So that was great.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
She wrote an excerpt and uh in Megan's book.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Uh, tell the Truth, I wrote the forward.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, and yeah that so that happened before.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah that was that was fourth grade. Wow, that was
fourth grade.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So see that's why I said it. Well, you ain't
got it, see, And that's the thing. Everything ain't for everybody,
and that's the beauty of it. You ain't got to
share it if you ain't, if you don't want to know,
I can share it.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's just no, I can share it. It's just it was.
You know, I was very volatile in my anger when
I was younger. I was messed with a lot, I
was picked with a lot, I was trolled a lot.
There was a lot of stuff that happened, And when
I think back to it now, I'm grateful that all
of that happened because it was like I was being
(04:54):
prepared for what I'm living through now and It's funny
because even at forty eight years old, the idea that
there are a bunch of weirdo adults moving about, moving around,
still trolling me, and still lying on me, and still bothering,
you know, trying to bother me in some way. And
(05:16):
I'm glad that I get to look back at moments
when you know, I lost my cool, and I did.
I lost my cool on the dean of my dormitory,
j Like, I literally pulled the towel rack off the
wall in the bathroom in the lobby where you know,
(05:39):
we had devotional where the sitting room was the TV room,
and we had the payphones there on the wall for
people to be able to meet calls and all of that.
And I went into that bathroom that was there in
that public area, snatched the tower rack off the wall,
busted the office where where you know my dean was,
(06:03):
and I went to work on her ass because she
had round a bunch of salacious lies about me all
in my records. She was trying to, you know, find
a way to revoke my scholarship, said that I had
been places on campus doing things that I hadn't been doing.
(06:26):
You know, there was all kinds of stuff that happened.
I was injured while I was there. I had chemical
burns on my lungs, and they wouldn't let me go
to the hospital because they didn't want to give my
family the ability to sue them. You know, I've been
through so many different, you know, crazy things that have
happened in my life. But just like Injustices, and once again,
(06:49):
here I am forty eight years old, and I see
that it was all really preparing me to be ready
for these moments in my life. Because if everything had
gone my way, what if everything had gone great when
I was younger, what if everything was okay and then
things just started unraveling and going nuts as I got older,
(07:11):
it could have been enough to push me over the edge.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, at a.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Long time, rather than understanding that sometimes these things happen.
Sometimes we get targeted, sometimes God selects us to be examples,
and we have to know how to deal with that pressure.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yep, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, and yeah,
you you've definitely been through a lot, and it's still
it's still it's still going on right now. In regards
to all the gas lighting and uh defaming and things
(07:48):
like that, and I know you, so I know how you.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Deal with it. But it's it's it's it's sad.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
But you know, I think God will not put you
in a situation so that you couldn't handle it. So
and you you you got the tough skin to to
deal with it. Now, let me let me pivot. Since
I talked about tough skin, I wanted to bring up
(08:15):
to two stories that I just saw. They came across
my news desk. There was a human skin teddy bear
that was found at a California bus stop.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Did you hear about that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, this is crazy right, it's a human skin teddy bear.
Let me just give you the cliff note. Human human
skin teddy bear at a California bus stop.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It leads to an arrest.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
So I saw the article some time ago, a couple
of days ago, and they said that there was a.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Teddy bear that was covered in human skin.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They don't know who said it there, and then they
found out who sat it there.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Now they said there's an arrest.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So Sam Bernardino County Corner investigators confirmed that the macabre
bear was in fact a toy that contained no human tissue.
So they said the sheriff's deputy is arrested an alleged
prankster on Monday today or yesterday, accusing him of planting
(09:25):
a creepy teddy bear that looked like it was made
of bloody human tissue. So this guy, Villa Nuwava, was
booked on suspicions of causing a needless emergency response by
planning a phony bear the evidence or whatever. Yeah, all
(09:48):
this happened in Victorville. We all know about Victorville, but
it's at a bus stop near a gas station off
a Bear Valley Road.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean, it isn't victor Treville, where uh the Bates
Motel for that movie was.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Is that Is that where it was? I don't it
might be.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I don't know, but I tell you one thing. Every
time I've gone through Victorville, Phil, I've gotten the same,
you know, creepy feeling. It's just it's just it's it's
a very creepy town. It's a very creepy town. I
(10:33):
just yeah, I don't want to, you know. And this
is where this happened, this fake morbid teddy bear experience.
And apparently a human being decided to do this as
a prank to see how law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Would respond, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Okay, that that sounds like somebody that's very bored.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
People are weird, man, No, it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Sounds like somebody that watched Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It puts the e lotion in this in the basket,
it puts the lotion on its skin or else it
gets the o's again like it's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah. No.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And speaking of weird, I saw a news article that
dropped today. I don't know how true this is. It
says the Annabelle Doll. I don't know if you heard
about this Annabelle Doll. The handler. His name was Dan Rivera.
He died suddenly at fifty four while touring with the
(11:46):
Haunted object, so they said he was a paranormal investigator.
He died while traveling across the US with the real,
purportedly haunted doll that inspired the horror movie series Anna Belle,
and he died of unknown causes on Sunday while handling
(12:09):
the doll known as America's most haunted object.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
He just died all of a sudden, And that's all
I really want to go. But yet, what do you
think of that?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think people should stop playing with the devil that's
what I think. You know, this this doll, this movie,
it's a creative fear it honestly, it reminds me of
when I was a kid and the whole poltergeist phenomenon
(12:44):
in the movies. And you know, there was one of
the actors I believe, that passed away from being terrified
while on set, and people were saying that work there,
that whatever the optical illusions that they were creating, that
they had become real in some way and that they
were literally scaring people to death. So to me, it
(13:07):
just sounds reminiscent of that, you know, pulture guyst in
the eighties and now Annabella in the two thousands, forty
years and the same lessons need to be learned and applied.
Stop playing with things that you don't want to be real,
Stop playing with it.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
The guy, he was an Army vet.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
He was working for the New England Society for psyche
Psychic Research.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He was working for them when he died.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
They said his death came months after he achieved viral
fame on TikTok by posting about his paranormal tour and
find things on the historic Doll. Yeah, man, I wouldn't
dabble into any of that.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I'm not even eating pork because I don't even want
the tricker nosis that's comes with it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Let alone.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm not going to be rocking around with this raggedy
and doll that that's connected to some paranormal attacks. I'm cool,
I'm cool. Well, you know, you know, you figure he
would know better. He sounds like he was hispanic, but
you figure that's something you know.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Anyway, Look, at this point in time, I'm starting to
believe that people will do anything for money, and people
will do anything for fame, and they really don't care
about their well being. They just don't. And I you know,
I don't care what people say, what people think. My
(14:47):
godmother said it best you knock at the devil's door
long enough. One day he's going to answer, and he's
gonna pull you in. Might to choose when you get
to leave, if you get to leave it all. And
it's uh, it's real.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
People like playing.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yeah, now you don't, you don't. You don't mess around
with that. We gi board stuff you don't mess around with.
Don't play with none of that. I'm sorry, I miss
me with that. It's the reason why you know, it's
the reason why certain people handle those types of things,
the reason why they were shaman and things of that,
and and you know, ancient societies, prehistoric societies or societies
(15:30):
before you know, it's a reason why. But like you said,
people don't care. Speaking of speaking of not caring, now
I can get into two stories. We're gonna get into
two more. And either we're gonna speak of not caring.
We goin to get into this Umar Johnson not caring
about his uh his I'll just say his standing in society,
(15:52):
or we could care.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We could talk about people not caring.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
About uh Beyonce being robbed.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Allegedly what we're gonna talk about first? Real quick? Which
one you want to go first?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know. They all sound crazy, So let's just let's.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Jump with it with this Beyonce stuff because in all honesty,
I heard the story they said that there were five
hard drives missing from a car last week that was
broken into in Atlanta, where Beyonce was performing, And first off,
sounds sounds like cap to me.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Why would you leave anything in a car in Atlanta?
Number one? But I mean, first of I don't care.
I'm like, okay, I lost jump drives and hard drives too.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Okay, So yeah, I just I just said, you know,
what's your take on that whole story?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I know you heard more about it.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I just I mean, I've heard what I've heard. A
lot of people have had a lot of things to say.
For me, my first impressions were cat pr Son, insurance, scam,
inside job, anything to quiet all of the bad press
(17:23):
that Rock Nation is getting regarding Ramier and the DNA
test that's coming up this week, that's demanded to be
taken by this week, and de Morey and Javon Hadley
and the suit against Desiree Press. Like I think you know,
that's just initially where it went for me. And it
(17:44):
was wild because before anybody, before we went online to
look at anything, like everyone was saying the same thing.
For me, what I'm not understanding is is what makes
this news. I don't understand what makes this news? And
not only what makes this news, but what makes this
news a week after the concerts, Like this happened before
(18:09):
the concert happened. This happened before the performances. Why was
this not addressed until after the performances? And let's be
very clear those performances. It popped up very last minute,
as far as I know, because I really don't follow
these people, but usually when they got stuff going on,
they're dominating the algorithm, They're putting all kinds of stuff,
(18:29):
and they got all kinds of bots sharing all kinds
of things. It's just kind of just like whoop. It
popped up and then people posted some pictures from what
I saw. But the truth is this, I didn't see
a whole lot of reaction to this show being in Atlanta,
not the kind that you would expect in the United States. Actually,
it got more fanfare in Paris than it did, in
(18:54):
my opinion, anywhere in the United States. So yeah, it's
like all of a sudden, and maybe it got overshadowed
because of all of the talk of Ramera, because of
all of the talk of Nicki Minaj, because of all
of the talk of you know, justice for the Hadleys
and everything that's going on with that. Maybe that's why
we didn't see it. Maybe they needed to create a
(19:18):
sympathy campaign so people could feel bad for them in
some way. But whatever the case may be, when you
listen to the things that they have, you know that
were taken of what was mentioned. None of this stuff
is really a big deal. Number one, what are dances
and choreographers doing holding the drives with your music on
(19:41):
it and plans for setlists and all of it? Like,
what would be the purpose were they listening to it
so that they could work on the choreography. They wouldn't
need the drives for that. You could just you know,
cut them out, you know, a little jump drive or
something and like that. You know what I'm saying. You
(20:02):
could have emailed the music so that they could have
just listened to it from a Google drive. You know,
they wouldn't need the physical drive for any of that.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You could have on your phone if you have an iPhone.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You could exactly somebody. Yeah, if you're trusting somebody with
the actual drives, then why not just send them a copy?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's first thing, right, Yeah, it just it just.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It all sounds super suspicious. Not only that people are
sitting up there. Oh, the music is worth so much?
Unreleased unreleased music, what is it worth?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
If it's unreleased, what is it worth?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It doesn't have any value until it's been released. You
can't judge the value of unreleased music by the amount
of money that you've made. You can speculate, but what
if the record tank and it's not like records don't tank,
even for big artists, So it's what's the monetary value exactly?
(21:05):
And more importantly, if these were all things that were
planned around shows and songs and stuff that you were
planning to share with the public and the future or whatever,
then that means that music is already protected. It's I mean,
if you're allowing it to be a part of production,
(21:25):
that means it's already copywritten. That means it should already
be registered. You know what I mean. Yeah, it should
already be protected. You should already have it, you know,
your bds and all of that stuff set up. I mean,
this is a professional operation.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
So I'm glad you said professional operation. Speaking of shouldn't
there be encryptions on the drive?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Password? Basic passwords for the drives?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
You can't access it unless you've got like I have
all types of drives.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I can put passwords on them. I can encrypt them.
Come on, y'all stop got like this.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Is Yeah, it's just too much. It's too much pomp
and circle circumstance around something that should have been protected,
whether it was stolen or not. And let's just be honest.
Whoever steals it, wherever you try to sell it or
stream it, the metadata and all of these things that
are attached to it's gonna lead right back to whoever
got it. They're not really going to make a dime
(22:23):
off of it, So it's there's nothing there. Like when
when they started saying things that were being when they said,
what was it the air pod headphones or speakers or
air pop, like like, are you kidding me? Like that?
That's that? You know? This is petty. This is petty
theft at best it is. It's petty theft. We're not
(22:46):
talking grand larceny. We're not talking you know, And and
how is that news? And why would it be necessary
for nine one one calls to be released about this,
Like no, no, nobody goes through all this over this stuff.
There are people's cars in Atlanta, in Houston, in Philly
(23:09):
and LA that get broken into every day every day.
I know plenty of artists who have gone out of
town and got robbed. And guess what, you don't hear
about it. They don't say anything about it. When entertainers
are making these kinds of small deals, public knowledge it's
(23:31):
because they want people to look at it, they want
people to have a reaction to it, and in my opinion,
they needed something to calm down the DNA test stories,
all of them bad press that Rock Nation is getting.
And you know the simple fact that apparently the Missus
(23:54):
Carter fans really don't want to see her husband on stage.
They really don't want that around. So it's yeah, I
don't know, it's it's given pr stunt, it's given sympathy campaign.
And unless there was something more valuable, well, if there
was something more valuable that there they're not talking about,
(24:16):
then it sounds like insurance settlements, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah. But all in all, it's it's not news. So
I don't understand why people are making such a big
deal about it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, it's not news. It's not news.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Umar Johnson's story is more.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
News, Umar Johnson, You're right, Lumar Johnson's situation is bad.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Let me just tee it up real quick. Now. I
know some things, and.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I'm I've met Umar some time ago.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
We have some mutual acquaintances. You already know.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
He he's you know, to me, I have no problems
with him. He They did ask him about you on
the Blue Couch and he said, no comment. I don't
think he's trying to thrown his shade or anything like that.
You know, I don't I don't see him as what wait,
what what'd you say? You don't remember they asked him
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about you on the couch and he said, no comment.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Mm hmm, well yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
But but also I know I know the type of
brother he is, and you know, I just don't like
this what's going on right now. There's there's a there,
there's two things that have happened where he it seems
like he's being targeted.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Where right now, let let's just play it. Let me
set it up.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Those he basically being accused of. Everybody know he's a thought.
Everybody know his thought.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So there's there's someone who came out and said that
he was in a relationship with them and they're trying
to air him out and this was done on He
doesn't want to say the guy's name, but the guy
name is Lennon Honor.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And I actually Lennon Honor.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Featured me in a documentary sometime. Yeah, he featured me.
A lot of us from the LA Conscious community, like
you know, it was a hip hop doc. It was
about how hip hop messed up everyone's life, and I
was there to like, hip hop did mess up everybody's life,
you know, So he kind of had me on a's
like the you.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Know, the opposing thing right.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Right, right right. But overall Lennon after that just kind
of went and on just he got obsessed with exposing
doctor Umar and I was like, okay, it's kind of
his whole channel, like his channel, but back in the
day it used to be his lectures. And I actually
got wind of him, and that's how I reached out
to him, and you know, actually was in communication with him,
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met him and his wife, his kids are cool, whatever.
Then all of a sudden, he just went straight, uh, Umar,
I'm talking about Umar.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
We had to check him because he started talking about Griff.
I remember. I remember that one time he mentioned something
about Griff.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
He mentioned something about them saying fight the power and
who's the power.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And then he was making some correlation to Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
At the time, it was the New Boys when they
had that one song called Jerk You're a Jerk, and
he turned it into some homosexual thing and I was
just like, come on, bro, you you're you're you know, reaching, reaching, preaching.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like a mug.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
But anyway, this one woman who decides she wants to
air out doctor Umar. She went on his platform and
I guess and and and was.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Talking about what what what what? What? What happened Umar?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So I'm gonna play what she what what Umar response
was is to this whole situation. I'll pause it when
you want, just let me know. All right, So this
is what what I do.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
My brothers and sisters without being too vulgar.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Those three private contacts basically consisted of her gummy bearing
my shanga. Oh god, wow, she gummy beared the shanga.
That's basically what she did. It was a jump off.
Could rat jump off?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's all.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
It was filatia, three philasions. I came to visit.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
She wanted to police the prince of Pan Africanism. So
it happened three filatio sessions. I'm not proud to say that.
And then, of course, quote unquote caregiver. I put caregiver
in quotes because she did anything but care for my mother. Anyway,
this was the first week of March Sweden. I come
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back from Sweden. I'm disappointed. Can't work with this woman.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
No more.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Can't take care of my mother, I can't mess with you.
I started to distance.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Myself from her.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
On June the twenty fifth, the last moon that we had,
I do my art of dialogue interview. I'm coming out
of my Art of dialogue interview and my phone is
blowing up. There's a woman on Pastor Bussey's page claiming
that y'all was in a two and a half year relationship,
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that you were in love with her.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
That you wanted to marry her, that you wanted her
to have your child.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
You were in a two and a half year relationship
with her, You were in love with her, you wanted
to marry her, You want her to have your child.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You were half here, relationship, Go ahead, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
One more time for the cheaps?
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Two and a half year relationship with her, You wanted
to marry her, you wanted you was in love with her,
and he wanted her to be your wife.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Brothers and sisters, I have women who look way better.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Than her, who have done more for me in my
life than she ever could. Who I wasn't in love with,
who I didn't want to make my wife, Who I
didn't want to have my baby?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
So this moment, this Kansas.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
City thought, this Jasabel, this jump off, this smashing grab.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh wow.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Spent three times with me, not three nights, because I
never spent the night. I never spent the night with
her in my life. I never spent a night with
her in my life. I saw her three times and
three times, all of which, if I'm not mistaken, were
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during the first quarter of twenty twenty five. Three times,
and I'm in love with her three times. I want
to marry her three times. I want her to have
my baby three times. And we were in a two
and a half year relationship. Brothers and sisters, brothers and
brothers and sisters. Okay, brothers and sisters, but it gets worse,
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she told Pastor Bussy. And let me say this about
Pastor Bussy, Rainbow Bunny. Pastor Bussy, the Rainbow Bunny has
been cyberstalking me.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
For ten years.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
People have asked me to put a stop to him. Legally,
I had two attorneys who sent him cease and desist,
and clearly no, those attorneys do not live in Utah,
where he lives. M those attorneys did not live in Utah,
so there was no follow up. I recently consulted with
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a utah who told me I have a serious case against.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Number one, for someone who's been heavily gas lit, for
someone who's been heavily cyberstock, for someone who's had to
deal with all kinds of invasion and privacy in real
life and in real time. I understand it's frustration, Like
I totally get it. There's nothing worse than a stranger
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being able to go on line and just make up
whatever they want to make up about you, or take
whatever details about your life and remix them and t pain,
chop and scream and turn them into whatever you want
to turn them into for their profit and for someone
you know else's entertainment. You know, it sucks. It sucks
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because it just kind of feels like you're an ever
living character in someone's virtual dunking booth. You know, you know,
you get tied to this virtual chair and people get
to stand around while people just throw stuff at you
and just keep dunking you and dunking you and dunking you.
And it's all done without your permission, without your acknowledgments,
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or even your compensation. Because the kind of money that
some of these people make off of doing this stuff
is substantial, Like people have made a substantial amount of
money lying on me, defaming my character, defrauding me. I mean,
as it stands right now, there are three grown men
online right now doing this very thing. So I get it,
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get being upset about it, and I've lashed out. I've
had all kinds of things to say about it. But
this is my issue. Where does the woman fit in?
Because she wasn't the one that's been stalking him and
harassing him for all of these years. This woman, at
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some point in time, you invited her into your life
and the first thing she does is go and run
off to y op and you're sitting here talking about filatio.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
O god, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I just I just want to get that clear, because
it all sounds either this was an orchestrated plan all along, yeah,
or you crossed the line with someone that you probably
shouldn't cross the line with, right, And I can understand
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both and see both. But let's just let's just see
where this is going. Brothers and sisters see the Rainbow Bunny.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
But I'm going to have to fly out to Utah
a couple of times to appear in court. So this
attorney told me that if I give him the retainer,
he will begin the investigation on Pastor Bussy. And after
looking at Pastor Bussey's YouTube page, he says he is
quite certain that I have a case for slander, I
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have a case for libel, I have a case for defamation.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
And he also said.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Because he's been making money off of my name for
ten years, that he can be made to pay me
back all the money that he made in my name
and that we can lay siege to any property that
he owns. I told him that the man is broke,
he don't have any property. He basically pays his bills
by making doctor Umar defamation films.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
He said, well, if that's the case, if he has
a job. If he has a job.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Then his wages can be garnished until he satisfies the
balance of the settlement from court. So, Brothers and sisters,
I have finally realized that I have to have a
doctor Umar defense fund.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I have to have a doctor Umar.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Defense fund, not a building fund.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
And the reason I have to have a doctor Umar
defense fund is not because I have to defend myself.
I have to have a doctor Umar defense fund. So
I can foul suit against people who think it's okay
to constantly slander my name and attack my mother.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I mean, I'm not mad at him, though.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Attack I'm not mad.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yep, gotta protect your name.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Attack my mother, brothers and sisters. This woman told past
the Bussy the rainbow Bunny for you two being struggle streamer.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
She told that I went down on her brothers and sisters.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
I'm willing to take a lot of tective tests, brothers
and sisters.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'm willing to take.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
A lot of techtive tests.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Okay, brothers and sisters, willing to take a lot of
techtive tests.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
When that woman.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
After gummy bearing my shango stick that okay, took off
her underwear and I'm telling you, brothers and sisters, and
I don't mean no disrespect to feminine energy. I don't
mean no disrespect to feminine energy. I don't mean no
disrespect to feminine energy. When she took her brothers and sisters,
she smelled like something crawled up inside of her.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
And oh, okay, I'm not okay, I'm sorry that that no.
I you know, I'm glad they didn't have social media when.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Martin Luther King was alive because I know. I'm sorry.
Go ahead, m No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm just I'm cringing while you're talking, that's all. I'm
just cringing.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Go ahead, like he's the the principal pan Africanism, the
prince of Pineapple Pizza.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Now, let me stop. I got respect. I got respect like.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You do somebody.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
I wish.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
I wish he did too, you know, That's how I feel.
I wish he had the same resk for himself that you.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
I don't Why why put yourself in a situation, Why
even go in on his system like that? Why had
your shango stick in a in a in a mouth?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Why you ain't married? I don't know. I got a questions.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Okay, now see here we go. Now this is the thing,
and this is where it gets tricky in this whole situation,
because this is a person that you're saying, you're really
not saying how she came to your life. He's hinting
around it, but he's really attacking, you know, the fact
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that she put these stories out there about him. Do
I think she's lying about everything? Maybe not. Do I
think she's telling the truth about everything? Absolutely not. Do
I think She's captain, most likely considering that she went
to like his number one, Like if he is the
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superman of Pan Africanism, then she definitely ran to his
lex luthor. So and you know the lex luthor this uh,
this linen person, mister sheets. Uh, he used to like
a piece of kryptonite.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yep, the gummy and the shaga is the kryptonite.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
To get somebody of his stature to get online and
to carry this out in this fashion. Like, if I'm correct,
a good share of his audience are women.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Majority of them they're women.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
So I just yeah, you can say no, you know,
no disrespect to feminine energy. But that was with all
due disrespect. And there's no way that any woman who
you come to contact with, Like, I'm just sitting here
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thinking to the people who he's been you know, I
don't want to say pandering promoting his school too, uh huh.
How they're supposed to feel comfortable with continuing to represent
Like like, if I'm listening to you talk this way
about somebody who you had your penis in their.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Mouth, Oh god, I can.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Only imagine what's going to happen at that school. What
happens when you fall out with you know, one of
the students' parents. What happens if one of the student's
parents doesn't like the way you're repommending their child. What if,
you know, like, what are you going to do? Are
you going to get on social media and talk about
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how the mom you know has a safety pin in
her stockings and how the kid you know doesn't have
new like you like it's it's the wrong way to
go for someone like him. It would be the wrong
way to go for somebody like me. And I'm known
to jag out, like I have a reputation of flaming
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on people, and even I see the danger. And I mean,
you've known me now for a little bit. I mean
you got we got a little bit of time, and
we got a little bit of history. And how many
times have I stopped myself from saying things? A lot
because I realized exactly how bad a detractor that will
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be for my agenda, for what I'm trying to get done. Yeah,
And it's just this, this is not a good leadership
move now for somebody that's talking about leadership, for somebody,
somebody that's talking about the importance of the preservation of
our race, for somebody that's talking about all of this
stuff like, this isn't good. Sound like Bishop you sound
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like more like Bishop don wan Gee. Like you don't
sound like the principle of a school. You don't sound
like the founder of an educational institution. You don't sound
like somebody who's really like you. You don't sound like
what you It ain't right. It's just it's not right.
And but once again it's it's a catch twenty two.
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What's happening to him is very wrong, and he's justified
to have this kind of of outrage. Like, clearly these
people push some kind of buttons. There is something that
she said and something that she did. But maybe we
need to listen further because wasn't there a situation where
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wellness checks or something would call to his mother's house
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, they they they were there.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
I think they're doing all types of stuff to just
get up under his skin, more than get up under
his skin. Besides, I know I'm tally in what I
said about my son earlier about the I just when
I when I donated to his to doctor Umar's school
because I was like, hey man, I'll work at your school.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
I have a background in it at the time.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
I just finished the project working on l A unified
doing all the wireless there.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's like, yeah, if you need an IT guy, man,
I'm here. Let me know. In fact, I got a son,
he's in kindergarten.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I make sure he gets there. I want him to
come to your school. You know that that you know
how long ago that was.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
My son just graduated my school.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
So let's just say you dodged a bullet.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
All right, let's let's finish listening.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
We ain't gonna go to I got some other information.
I'm we're gonna wrap this stuf because I got to
see some other information. But yeah, private school, private interactions.
And here's what he has to say about the fishmail.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
You have a smell of fish tank that somebody ain't
cleaned in like two years.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
They got gold fishing there.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
They got all kinds of fish and it ain't been
cleaned in years.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
That's what she He smelled like. God, she took off
those funky ass draws.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
Herd draws were so old and so funky that I
thought it was a wife beater, that's how stretched out.
Hers were so old and so funky. Her underwear was
a sling shot. God, raws were so funky and so stink.
I'm brothers and sisters that I thought it was a
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wife beater brothers and sisters, And I don't.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Mean no dis so when she said.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
Down, after she got finished swallowing the shango, she said,
it's my child. After she got finished swallowing the Prince
of Pan Africanism, she said, it's my one more time.
And I'm sitting there and I'm saying to myself, how
do I get out of this? Because it ain't no
way under God's have that king con consciousness, face, no tongue, lips,
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ears or caroline.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
It is going anywhere near that cootie cat brother.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Okay, okay, I had the balls didn't stop it.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
In fact, yeah, I mean that that is not becoming
of a This just.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Ain't a good look. It's not a good look. It doesn't.
It didn't sound like somebody that's a leader. It sounds
like somebody is the leader in a roast. Like he
sounds more like a comedian. Then he sounds like somebody
for the community to take seriously as a leader. And
uh and all of.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
All of our older day in order to be a
great leader, you gotta know how to control your your
your your d your sexual all you got it.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
You gotta know how to control that.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
See that's the thing. Is she one of like? Was
she a supporter? Like I would like to have more
understanding of everything that's going on. But for you to
be saying all of these things, for you to be
talking about her, you know, her smell and all of
this and all of that you're telling me, when when
did he notice that on the third time she went
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and and you know, gave him tribute to his shango
stick as he would say, like, when did you realize
that she she stank? Was it the first time? And
they kept letting her go down? Because the truth is
is if the woman is unclean in another regions, what
makes you think her mouth is any better?
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Like it's she she she she swallowed the shanango or gummy,
the shango stick and uh he didn't touch the uh
waters of a noon right or the waters or you know, well.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
That's just like a guy saying that he got a
big from a crackhead and it was okay because he
used the condom. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (47:51):
I gotta edit that out. You you over here doing
a whole lot. That's I know.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I know, I know dudes. I know dudes that used
to brag about that back in the day who sold
drugs and and you know they were they were pharmaceutical
dealers and they would sit up there. Yeah man, I
had me some stuff earlier. Yeah yeah, yeah, mister k
my nove and I hit it from your back. It
got busted me your nut people, YadA, YadA, YadA. It
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was a crackhead, but they thought it was okay because
they used the condom. And to me, like it feels
just as greasy as that. But once again, like how
did this woman get into your life? And more importantly,
if this woman is a reckless and she's doing all
of this kind of stuff and you disapprove of her,
when did she get your approval to be good enough
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to be around your mom? Like, when did she get.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Your that's a problem. I think that's how she got
into his life. I think she was okay. So the
game looks like he's one of the guys is like,
you know, uh, single mom, you got kids, and you
know a lot of times his boys and their special needs,
they have ADHD and he you know, I have his book,
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I got Doctor Martin's book, and he said, EIGHTYHD really sense,
I ain't no damn daddy at home, right, So he
wants to be the daddy.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
He'll be the daddy.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
He gonna be everybody daddy.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
He's probably you know, yeah, hitting all these single moms
or whatever. He probably has a network of single moms
around around around the country.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
And isn't that what his school was supposed to be.
For a school for single moms to send their children.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
It's not for single moms. It's gonna be like.
Speaker 4 (49:38):
It's for kids that it'll be you know, boys on
one side, girls once I believe, or something like that.
It's gonna have it's not gonna be integrated with the
sexist which is a good thing to a degree, because
you know, you want your kids to focus, you want
the women, you want the men to focus this, we
want the women to focus.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
But I'm just bringing it down like this.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
I think he has a bunch of single mothers that
he has on speed down and this was one of them,
and she maybe threw her services out there, like, well,
I could take care of your mom too, because that's
what we were talking about his mom being.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
He's taking care of his mom.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
Since twenty eighteen, That's what he says, right, So he
needs help with that, and she was supposed to help,
and I think that was an issue with she.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Not doing a good job at it. She also has connection,
not connection.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
She has his information for his personal and the school account.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
But why would she have information? How did she get
to listen to me? He talking about he got to
fly this person around, put her up in hotels and
do all of this and do all of that. Why
not just call a home health aid service?
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Why not just hire somebody who specializes in this? Like
I was a home healthy when I was a kid,
right after I had Giovanni. From sixteen to like eighteen
years old, I was working as a home health aid.
I also worked as a living so I understand. You
know how this works. I did my training. You have
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to know how to do all of this stuff. Like
there was a situation where I think apparently she said
the mother had fallen and she had slid down and
she couldn't lift her up. Why was there no proper
anything in that house? And it's just if you could
spend all of that money to fly this woman back
and forth, if you could spend all of this money
(51:35):
to put her up in the hotels, you're having intimate
relationships with her, and yet you're not. No, it just
it sounds like a lot of this could have been avoided.
And I just don't understand why someone of his intelligence
would put himself in this position. I mean, and don't
get me wrong, I'm not judging. I have had all
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kinds of gas lighting situations in my life where people
have been brought into my life specifically to create havoc,
Where people were sent into my life specifically to try
to find a way to have an intimate engagement with
me so that they could turn around and use it
online and shame me and slander me. I know how
it happens. I know that it can happen. My question
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is how did this happen to him?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (52:23):
And I hate the fact that even if this was
just a bad choice that he made, that it became
new ammunition for somebody who was clearly obsessed with him,
Like this is obsession. Anybody who can talk about the
same person for ten years like they there was something
(52:45):
about did this person literally pretended to be him to
get his information on bills? Like this is going too far,
that's not investigative journalism. You're not going You are a
class a grand troll and people like that are not
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mentally well. And if they're not mentally ill, then that
means they're being hired by somebody to specifically target another person.
Either one ain't cool. The question is is if you're
gonna get online and you're gonna go out in this
nature and put all of this because you're outraged, maybe
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it is warranted. Without all of the information about how
all of this stuff happened, you're leaving yourself at a disservice.
And not only that, regardless even if all of it
was sympathetic to you, this is not the way for
the man that you say you're supposed to be. And
now look at him, it's just video. At the video,
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he's crashing out. He's crashing out. Listen to what he said.
Listen to what they said. Now you've given content to
all of the people that also troll you and for
the people that don't, now you the meal of the week,
You the happy meal for trolls this week.
Speaker 4 (54:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Like I'm not even gonna like there's a million jokes
that I could tell there's a million cards that I
could pull, But because I understand what it's like to
be trolled in this manner, I'm not even gonna do it.
I'm not. I'm not. I really feel bad for him,
and I feel bad for his mim because what it
sounds like is is that somebody put a sign on
(54:35):
his back greenlit him, and they're going after him. And
they're doing that with a lot of people who are
pro black, who are pro black, people who are pro
Black Americans, who are better home, better community, family values,
all of that. And I might not agree with everything
that he says, but I tell you one thing, he
(54:57):
does a lot less damage to the community then most
c of these rappers that people are celebrating and worshiping,
you know what I mean? And who knows. Maybe maybe
they've been targeting him to make it impossible for him
to collect enough donations to be able to properly raise
money to get to school. Maybe this was maybe he
(55:17):
got too close. Maybe it was about to happen, and
they created this situation just to make sure that it
didn't happen. I don't know. I just think that people
need to look a little bit deeper than the surface.
And it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Just a yeah, no, no, no it is.
Speaker 4 (55:34):
And I'm we're gonna wrap it on this on this note,
I just happened to look at Lennon Honors Channel and
this is the last video he just dropped Umar Johnson's
half a million dollar Scheme Part seven, Like, bro, don't
you got something else to talk about?
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Is his last name? Walmack?
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Well?
Speaker 4 (56:00):
Shoot, hey, hey, he might know him. He might know Barbara.
I mean, he might know Rodney Earl.
Speaker 3 (56:07):
Hey, like, because he might know seven. Like it's sad,
it's crazy bad.
Speaker 4 (56:15):
It's three hours, it's over three hours.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
Yeah, it sounds like it sounds like the some of
the weirdos that's talking harass me, doing six and seven
hour lives, telling the same lie over and over again,
trying to get people to believe. Like that's the thing. Like, Honestly,
before we got into this conversation, I was ready to
(56:40):
go in on him. I was ready to run down
on him. I was ready to clown on him. Because
once again, I won't say that I'm his biggest fan,
because I'm not. But the more I listen, the more
I feel like he's being targeted, he's being gas lit.
And this reaction is an emotional distress breakdown. That's what
it's sounding like to me.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
And that I'm not cool, That's what it was. And no,
I never I'm clowning, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
No, you're not clowning. You laugh, You laughing, no different
than I laughed when I first heard some of this stuff.
But the more that I'm listening to him and the
way that he's going in see, and that's why I said,
if you're not going to be completely transparent, your reaction
should not be online. It just shouldn't. It shouldn't be
online because I hear him editing. He's not saying something.
(57:32):
There's something that he's not saying, because he keeps weighing
in on how disgusting they are, how terrible they are,
what awful people they are. And guess what, all of
that may be true, but unless you're willing to be
completely transparent, you're just gonna get left looking like a
clown and like a crash out and these people are
(57:53):
gonna be emboldened to keep going at you.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (57:58):
Well, all I got to say is, yeah, I don't
have anything against doctor Lai. In fact, I got his
back if he gets back out here to La you
know where to find me. I know where to find him.
You know, we got mutual connects, you know.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Ross Bob.
Speaker 4 (58:13):
We gotta just chop it up with him, just I
got to chop it up him, just like man man,
just to be like, yo, you know, he's almost done
getting the school.
Speaker 2 (58:22):
Together, and I'm not mad at it. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (58:24):
But yeah, they they're definitely there's some people and there's
some situations. There's things that are preventing what it is
that he's trying to do.
Speaker 5 (58:33):
Well.
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Like I said, we you know, whether you agree with
him or not. I mean there's a school out here,
Marcus Garvey School. They suddenly attack that I was working.
You know, I was working for that school. You probably
don't know, but all black school, teaching black the kids,
just black history, and these kids were phenomenal. They were dope.
I have my kids there for summer school and stuff
(58:55):
like that. Man, they do anything to not get us
to have our own. So that's what I would just
top it up with him about that. But in all honestly,
I was clowning. But I'm just like, nah, I got
much respect and I appreciate what he's doing. But Yeah,
like you say, now you're seeing behind the scenes. Now
that you've got a little peak, you kind of know like, yeah,
(59:16):
something else going on.
Speaker 3 (59:17):
Now there's there's definitely something else going on. And the
more that I listened to him, honestly, it just kind
of pulls at my empathy. It's really tugging at my
compassion and my empathy because it's it really does sound
like they're out to get them, and his reaction is
(59:38):
just creating them, you know, that that space that they
need to keep coming after them. And I'm sure a
lot of people are going to be surprised about my
reaction at this because this typically would be the kind
of thing where I would go in. But when I
hear something wrong, I just I can't. I can't not
acknowledge it, you know, uh, because he went after this
(01:00:02):
woman in the most egregious ways and it's so disgusting.
But the thing is it's gonna hurt him with women
overall as a whole. It's gonna make people look at
him sideways because of the things he said and the
lady he set them And apparently this mister Lennon sheets Man,
(01:00:24):
he knew that, and he knew to go he knew
to run in on it. So it's it's yeah, it's
feeling orchestrated, and it's feeling like an attack. And I
wish our people wouldn't be so quick to jump on
the bandwagon of of clowning other people who are in
you know, legitimate distress.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Yeah, all right, let's wrap this.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
We're we we we did, We're done. This is the
front street fumble, y'all fumbling on getting this the real news.
I'll just say it like that. But now this is
this is a This is not a fumble for doctor
and what is a fumble for doctor Umar?
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
He shouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
It's a fumble for doctor umar Umar.
Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
It's a fumble for the whole community.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
To you, no, it's definitely that's who's really a fumble
for because once again now people are focusing on division
between our people when we're supposed to be focusing on unity,
and this just adds to you know, us continuing you know,
the divisive you know bullshit. It's it's really sad when
(01:01:30):
you look at it for what it is, but you know,
everybody wants to be entertained. There's millions of views now
based around all of this and nobody's really looking past
what came out of his mouth. They're not looking past that,
they're not seeing the bigger picture. And it's a it's
a it's it's it's like a mural copful. O.
Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Man, there we go. Another edit.
Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
All right, now, that's all good, beautiful work. We'll see
y'all on the on the flip side.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then don't don't believe the hype
esus water fish
Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Mm hmm
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