July 1, 2025 • 31 mins
Jaguar Wright breaks her silence on the explosive Demoree Hadley case, focusing on the disturbing parallels between her own experiences and those of Roc Nation CEO Desiree Perez’s daughter. Jaguar dives into how whistleblowers are discredited, the entertainment industry's weaponization of mental health systems, and the alleged abuse of power behind closed doors. This raw conversation uncovers the tactics used to silence truth-tellers and challenges the media's selective coverage of systemic corruption. Jaguar explores Demoree’s background, the initial allegations, and how this mirrors a dangerous pattern across the industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, here we go. Welcome back to Jaguar Wright Uncensored podcast,
where I am truly uncensored. Today we want to talk
about a couple of things, and I think there's some
things that need to be discussed. Number one, the d
More Hadley lawsuit against her mother CEO of Rock Nation,
(00:25):
Desiree Peretz. It's become like a war on so many
different levels, and you have to ask yourself why because
the only thing that the Hadleys have done is just
tell the truth about what they've experienced and in their opinion,
(00:48):
why they've experienced it. There's evidence on all of it.
Everything is pretty clear cut. And even with certain people
out there, you know, the innersphere or the inner web
or whatever we want to call this realm, you know,
(01:09):
there are people that have tried to question it. There
are people that are being dishonest about details, adding on
people straight just cap and putting dubs on stuff, saying
things that aren't you and aren't verified. The question is
why are so little people talking about this case, even
considering the fact that Nicki Minaj jumped into it and
(01:31):
through her hat in the ring to support de More directly,
live online and all through social media. It's for me.
I find it just more evidence that when it comes
to the real things that expose corruption, that expose extortion,
(01:56):
that expose just taking advantage of the criminal justice system
as a whole, it shows how real that is because
there's so many people that aren't talking about it, and
the few that have, including me and you know, Set
in the West and just our team in general. Copyright
(02:17):
strikes out of nowhere, people trying to take down people's channels,
intimidation tactics, all of these things. It's I don't know,
it's kind of kookie.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Before you move further with the conversation, I think you
really got to lay some groundwork because you know, someone
may not know what's going on with this case. So
you know, for those who are unfamiliar, you can you
explain in your own words who Demury Hadley is and
why story matters well.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
As I said earlier, the Mury Hadley is the daughter
of the CEO of Rock Nation, Desire Peress. This is
a person who has a very complicated and very corrupt
background on so many different levels, who has aspired to
very high heights and now has control of this multi
(03:15):
million dollar company. De Morey is a child that was
born at probably one of the most controversial times in
her life, when Desiree was arrested for drug trafficking, got
caught with thirty five kilos of you know, the bowdery stuff,
(03:40):
and somehow managed to only walk away with probation, but
she ended up fucking up, by the lack of a
better term, exactly how, we don't know. There's a lot
of things about that time in her life that had
been concealed, but she sports that had to go into
(04:01):
jail for nine months for probation violation, to which she
had to drop that child off de Moray being that
child one of her five biological six through marriage but
with her father in Florida, and her father raised that
(04:23):
child up until she was about fourteen years old, and
when she went into high school. This is when she
met her now husband, Javon Hadley, and they've been together
for sixteen years. Somewhere along the way, as her mother
(04:43):
grew in power and as she grew you know, her
wealth and you know, her acknowledgement in the rap community
is allegedly some kind of savior. She took a targeted
in in trying to find a way to separate her
(05:03):
very beautiful daughter from her very black boyfriend, and just
years of intrusion, cell phones hacked for almost a decade, cloned,
giving her the ability to be able to put in
messages that weren't there, take messages out that weren't Like
(05:27):
the whole nine yards. She was heavily invested. And then
even after they continued to stay together and they got
out of college, that's when she started with the surveillance
and having Javon Hadley followed. They didn't even realize how
(05:47):
deep it was. Javon had you know, he had his
instincts that told him this was going on. He was
telling Demour the entire time, I don't think your mom
really likes me. I don't think you know, she cares
for us being together. But of course, what child will
want to believe that of their parents, especially when you
(06:09):
know they were still going to family events, going on
vacation with the family being sent you know, football game
tickets to the Dolphins. There was a lot of you know,
back and forth, and for anyone who's seen the series,
or if you haven't seen the series, you really need
(06:29):
to go and just check it out because de Moore
gets into very deep detail about everything that led up
to why they were forced to go through with this
suit after you know they had been well Javan had
been falsely arrested, and then de Moore was detained and
put in a mental facility for things that were so
(06:54):
far from true for her that they couldn't even prove
them themselves. And now she has a gag order on
her and the mother has a lawsuit against her husband.
She has a lawsuit against her mom. It's all a mess.
So I don't know, does that explain it enough? And
(07:15):
for those who haven't seen, you know, like I was saying,
please go and check out Defending Your Freedom the de
Mury Hadley story. You can catch it on Patreon and
you can also catch it on the Jaguar Right Effect,
where it's still available. At one point in time, it
was on the Jaguar Right Show, but that channel got attack,
(07:36):
So please make sure that you're supporting all of the
platforms where we are tackling this story. But coming in here,
this is our first time talking about it here in
the Uncensored podcast. So there's just a lot. So well,
why don't you ask me a couple of questions that
people might want to know, because it's just so much information.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
To see it is, and in all honesty, people really
need to check out episodes one, two, and three. In fact,
they are on the Jaguar Right Uncensored podcast as well.
So I'm sure if you are a follower of Jaguar
you see that there the episodes available. But the awareness
(08:26):
and you explaining to people who you know may not
be familiar with it, that's great. So let's give them
a little backstory. When did you first hear about de
Moores Hadley's story and what was your initial reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, I had started noticing about a month ago that
it had popped up, and of course because of everything
that I've been through and the way that I have
actively campaigned against the abuses and the corruption that I
know in my heart exists within that organization Rock Nation.
(09:02):
You know, we've talked about the Tory Lanes case, we
talked about the trial, you know, we've talked about everything
that's happened there. I've also said that I do believe
and know that there have been other attacks on other artists.
There have been a tacks on my life that resembles
so much of what happened here in this case, but
(09:23):
what really did it for me was that video that
they were leaking out online. It was right around the
time that de Moorey had filed her lawsuit. It became
public knowledge herself and Hilton Hilton Napoleon, her attorney, and
shout out to him, and you know, we keep him
(09:45):
in prayer because, my goodness, the amount of paperwork that
he has to deal with fighting this thing on behalf
of des Moiray is just insurmountable. I can't even I
don't even know when the man has time to sleep,
but regardles list of all of that. When I saw
that video being circulated around on YouTube, from the second
(10:07):
that I saw it, I knew something was wrong and
we looked. I looked, I shared it with you. You looked,
and I studied it. I studied it and studied it
and studied it, and I saw all of the inaccuracies.
I could tell it had been Ai manipulated in the video.
(10:28):
I had initially said I wasn't sure if it was
her or not because the woman in the video was
wearing a COVID mask. We later found out why all
of that was. But I literally took to the jaguar
right effect and I sat down. That video hasn't hit
one hundred thousand views yet. I wonder why. But the
last time I checked, it was over eighty thousand views,
(10:49):
and people came through to watch and to listen to
what I had to say about everything that was wrong.
And as it turned out, because of that breakdown video,
that's when the ad least it reached out to us,
or at least de Moray had, because Javon has a
gag order against him and at that time Demoury was
(11:10):
the only one that didn't have a gag order between
the two of them. So that's when she said, you know,
you're so right about the video, but I want to
tell you everything that actually happened. Yes it was me
in the video, she said, And yes, you were right.
It was altered, it was manipulated. So instantly, you know,
(11:30):
we realized there was a gag order being threatened. It
hadn't happened yet, so we just jumped right in the
studio and we got the whole story. And thank god
that we did when we did, because we were able
to take this whole thing and shape it so people
could see it from their point of view. With the
receipts and shout out to Wolfgang Amadeis, who did such
(11:53):
a fabulous job producing this thing and putting it together
so people could see the receipts along with the commentary,
her actual reaction in real time. It's just it's astounding
because that wasn't the only you know, spoofed evidence that
(12:15):
was used against them. There were other pieces of evidence
that were given to the court that had been taken
from her social media for things that had happened, other
things that had happened, the bruises or scratches from what
was it, the car accident, and then there was a
cooking accident where she had been burned. There was a
(12:38):
whole recording of her allegedly begging not to be raped
by her husband who was allegedly trafficking her to other men.
And it's just insane because when you look at the
lawsuit that her mother has against the husband and the
lawsuit that she has against her mother, the details are
(13:00):
night and day, just night and day. And for me,
I had a hard time walking away from this and
not talking about it because we're sitting there looking at
a black man being framed for doing something that he
didn't do, and you know, for you. For me and
(13:21):
for most of our listeners, that's just that's no bueno.
It's no good, you know, especially not in this day
and age. But the thing that bothered me more than
that was the way the public was willing to accept
the story that he was just this bad black guy
who was taking advantage of this girl who came from
a whooptie doo family and d and they were just
(13:44):
I hated it. I hated it right away, and I
was so glad to talk to Demrey and get the
real from her. And no, not only were my instincts right,
but it was worse than I thought.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's really bad. Is to the point where
you got rock Nation and the CEO striking content creators
for even talking about it. We know, Nicki Minaj tweeted
(14:22):
your video and she put it out on her Instagram
and she has over two hundred what two hundred million subs,
And I just find it interesting where you had a
lot of people who knew about the story, but nobody
really was talking about it. So of course Nicki Minaj
(14:46):
has her beef with Rock Nation in general. She pretty
much said a few things in regards to what was
going on with her she became like one of the
first whistleblowers. I mean you were. But she also, you know,
said that the tactics that they used on her to
(15:06):
like discredit her was similar to what you know, you
in De Morey talked about. So yeah, she she, I'll
just say this, you know what parallels or if you
see any do you see between what happened to de
(15:26):
Moray and your own experience is speaking out well.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
If anyone remembers, I had never really had anything to
say about rock Nation or the Carters at all up
until twenty twenty two. The end of twenty twenty two,
the first time I went back to real life, sat
on the blue couch and there we were, and they
(15:53):
had even asked me, you know what I thought about
mister and what I thought about his meteoric rise to success,
and I spoke very candidly. Actually, I didn't have as
much to say as I had to say later. I
(16:17):
was just pointing out what was obvious that you know,
there were methods that were implored that were used for
him to get to where he got, and most of
the stuff that he did it was malicious and it
was underhanded, and it reaked a criminal organization, and I
made it very clear and said, if that's how you
(16:38):
got to get it, I don't want it. I don't
want to have to tear people apart, tear people's lives apart,
destroy people's character in order to be successful. I don't
consider that good business. Now. Some people say, oh, you
got to be ruthless in business, But ruthless in business
if you have to cheat, and you're talking about government
(16:58):
corruption and things of that nature, that's something different. And
that's pretty much what I experienced after I did that interview.
The second that it hit a million views, guess what happened.
The next thing, you know, my life was being gas lit.
The people around my life were lying, creating stories. I
had a bunch of YouTubers stalking me. I was forced
(17:19):
to be hospitalized based off of false evidence. I was
accused of being on drugs and substances that I had
never taken that were also not found in my system.
I had to go through multiple psyche valuations to prove
that I wasn't schizophrenic, because that's what the police were
trying to force the hospital to give me that and
(17:41):
all of that was being done to discredit everything that
I had to say, and I hadn't even going haavy.
So when I hear about the Morey's story, and once again,
this was in twenty twenty three, I was also thrown
in jail two phony cases, no different than Javon, with
evidence that was not accurate, that was all contrived, you know.
(18:07):
As far as what happened with Nicki Minaj and her
being swatted, I was swatted live on YouTube, and YouTube
pretty much tried to scrub the evidence of that entire
situation away completely. So yeah, I know what these people
are willing to do, but to sit there and look
(18:27):
at the more story and to see it the way
we've seen it, you know, with the body cam footage
and all of these people who were willing and actively
available to lie about this young woman's mental state, to
lie about her being on drugs, to say that she
(18:52):
was suicidal, that they witnessed her trying to overdose, and
yet she goes to the hospital and there's no drugs
in her system at all, but she was ordered to
be drugged with ben a drill which only makes you drowsy.
There there was it would they were they were literally
trying to dopeer up, and if it wasn't for the
(19:13):
people at the hospital, the initial intake that they did
at the hospital there in Broward County. If it wasn't
for their epic ethics, she might have been drugged. Yeah.
You know when we sit there and we look at
you know, the the security company, the people that moved
(19:34):
in across the street from their house after they left,
the cameras that were watching them, and then to have
those cameras. You know, they couldn't get the cameras in
the house, so they got cameras across the street. You
have unlicensed pis that are armed following her daughter and
her husband around. Like just even the way that they
(19:57):
had a GPS on her car so that they could
be tracking her movements to make sure when they lured
her to Danie Beach for what was supposed to have been,
you know, a work call, Like they called their landscaping
business and said that they wanted you know, they wanted
(20:17):
them to come in and do work. So they were
coming to pitch the job. And this was how they
got her there. And just listening to the guy, Oh yeah, yeah,
we got a GPS owner. She's on her way up
the street. If you go and you look because that
was episode two, was it? Or was that episode three? No,
that was episode three when he's sitting there. Yeah, yeah,
(20:40):
she's about to come up the street. Now, we just
want to make sure she doesn't get away. We want
to make sure she doesn't do this. They did everything
they could do to make sure that she got to
that location, which, by the way, was owned by if
I'm correct, someone who was a part of the security team, right,
(21:00):
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yep, he knew the owners.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, he knew the owners. So this was all worked.
And initially they probably thought that both of them were
coming because usually they would go to consultations together. But
for whatever reason, that day, Jaffon stayed home and she
(21:25):
decided to go and took her dog. And you know,
in episode three, we walked through everything that happened during
her detainment. She made it through the seventy two hours
where they were supposed to release her, and right before
it was time for her to be the release, boom,
here comes the Marchmen act. And now the very doctor
(21:47):
that staged all of this on behalf of her mother.
And let's just be clear, the witnesses that he had
was the mother and an employee of rock Nation, who
hadn't seen her but did say she was trying to overdose.
He said, I have three credible sources that said that
she was this and she was that, and you could
(22:07):
just be acting, you could just be pretending. I have
to keep you here. I have to keep you here.
Even though there was nothing found in her system, even
though she wasn't behaving in any of the manners that
checked off a need for her to stay hospitalized, she
was moved to a facility that he had control over,
specifically where she was also forced to witness some really
(22:32):
terrible things. So, yeah, and then everything that we've come
to learn about doctor Bober and we still haven't even
done our deep dive in our breakdown, our video breakdown
on that, which I think we're going to be handling
that soon before we get to episode four. And I believe,
but when you hear the kind of connections this man has.
(22:52):
He has a spouse that that's in the state's attorney's office.
He has a relative I believe, a brother or a
cousin that's sitting on the bench, all in the same county.
These people have the ability to be able if they
have enough cooperating people working around them, and they can
(23:14):
put the evidence together to just take people off the
street and lock them up. I mean, when de Moray
sat down with BJ the Surprise Witness Salute to BJ,
she was also one of the brave content creators that
decided to take this story on. She had already been
(23:35):
investigating another claim from one of the old members, one
of the old cast members of Jackass who ended up
in Life Skills, the same place De Moore was in
under doctor Bober's care, and he said himself that he
had been sober and for whatever reason, he had to
come to Florida. He met up with a woman who
turned out to be an escort, and all of a
(23:58):
sudden he's being hospitalizing the a drugs in his system
even though he was sober. God knows how that and
he had the same and if I'm correct, didn't he
have the same attorneys coming after him and backing this
whole thing up that went after Britney Spears for her
(24:20):
conservatorship and her you know, it's this is this, this
is dangerous. These people. Ye please, I don't know you
chime in.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, no, you know what, because there's so many questions,
there's a lot to unpack. We'll have to circle back,
and what I'm gonna say, is anyone interested in asking
a question, I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave a chat
available open over on your your Patreon at patreon dot
(24:56):
com slash jaggar right where we'll come back. We'll circle
back and ask a few more questions because we're already,
you know, so many minutes in, and I don't want
to make this long, but I think I'm gonna just
I just got one more question. But I think I
know a lot of other people have other questions, So
I would advise you to get over to the Patreon.
(25:16):
I mean they are free members, and there's pay members.
I mean, if you could be a free member and
asks a question, if you have any questions in regards
to this story, and I have so many, but I'm
just gonna I'm gonna just put a pin in this
one right here, because you just mentioned life skills, you
mentioned de Morey, naming you know individuals, Daniel Boubar, doctor
(25:39):
Daniel Bobar, Jim Fondo, James, I'm sorry, Steve, and Patty
and even and and and and of course she mentions
her mother in a lawsuit. Do you think well, what
do you think of these allegations? What do you what
do you say? What do they reveal about the power
(26:01):
structure in the entertainment industry and corporate media.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's everything that I've said it is. It's corrupt, it
is moral, and it is abusive. It is abusive, and
especially considering the fact that she's not even in the industry,
She's just the daughter of an industry ceo. She never
actually worked at rock Nation. Her only engagement and involvement
(26:28):
around rock Nation was anything that our mother might have
included her in for a concert here or this and
that there. She did work at Iconics, they were affiliated,
there was some affiliation there, but nothing to do with
the industry. So when you hear about a CEO's child
(26:48):
experiencing the same kind of things like even you know
and shout out to impressive you know over on YouTube.
When they went back and pulled up the old Bobby's
when he kept saying rock Nation has hackers working in there.
They're hacking into all of our stuff. They're messing with us.
I'm telling you, they got us cold.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Like.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Considering artists have been saying this for years, and now
the CEO's daughter is saying, my mother's been hacking my
phone since twenty sixteen. I didn't even know yep, almost
a decade yep. And everything and all of this pingback
(27:32):
to Rock Nation headquarters, and then just even the Natalie
Love character, her sitting there and lying her going to
the Moray's grief counselor who she went to, you know,
and continue to go to just for life work balance
after a very traumatic moment in her life, you know,
(27:53):
in her family, and to go to her and play
a recording that sounded nothing like her trying to convince
her therapist to go along with this whole. She's mentally
unstable and she's being abused. It's really sad because it
makes you think about that whole. That one line that
I hate that that Sean Carter using one of his
(28:14):
old songs, we don't believe you. You need more people.
It goes to show you that this is a mindset.
We're going to get as many people as we can
to tell the same lie, to push the same lie.
We're gonna pay as many people as we can. Matter
of fact, we're gonna go and we're going to enlist
people that we know aren't going to question us. That
(28:36):
we know aren't going to do any pushback that we know,
and considering that was it Stephen Caddy used to work
and head up security for the Dolphins. We already know
the Dolphins. That's n foul. Yep, Like there's so many
(28:56):
there's just so much, there's so much. Soh yeah, we'll
stop it right here, because I know there's a lot
of questions. But yeah, look, we got to ask everybody,
why are we the only ones talking about it? Why
are there so few people talking about it? And what
gives Desiree Perez the right to literally hank down, harass
(29:19):
anybody who wants to tell the truth about what's happening.
Because let's just be clear, you didn't have a problem
with the media getting involved. When TMZ was busy pressuring
the DA about going after Javon, wanting to be in
the courtroom talking about they were going to get why
(29:40):
would they be involved. Nobody even knew this was going on.
None of us knew anything until de Moore filed. So
now it's okay to use TMZ, which is media which
by the way, never reported on this live. They were
just there intimidating the court system about it. Yeah, but
(30:04):
now you have a problem with media talking about.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It, we'll see, we'll put a pin in it there,
because that's exactly what we need to talk about next,
is the role of media and the public perception and
also you know, whistleblower culture and how it's suppressed. And yeah,
if you got any questions, anybody that's listening, if you
(30:27):
got any questions, I would advise you to just get
over to the Patreon, just become a member, and uh yeah,
we'll have something up there. If you guys have a question,
you could ask members members that are on here. If
you remember on a spreaker, then y'all know how to
reach us. There's a secret number. Y'all do that. You
know what I'm saying, But go ahead. Is there anything
(30:48):
else you want to say?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Stay tuned because this is a big conversation and we're
going to keep talking about it. Because if there's one
thing that I believe is it the more this if
someone tries to get you to shut up, the louder
you need to speak.
Well, here we go. Welcome back to Jaguar Wright Uncensored podcast,
where I am truly uncensored. Today we want to talk
about a couple of things, and I think there's some
things that need to be discussed. Number one, the d
More Hadley lawsuit against her mother CEO of Rock Nation,
(00:25):
Desiree Peretz. It's become like a war on so many
different levels, and you have to ask yourself why because
the only thing that the Hadleys have done is just
tell the truth about what they've experienced and in their opinion,
(00:48):
why they've experienced it. There's evidence on all of it.
Everything is pretty clear cut. And even with certain people
out there, you know, the innersphere or the inner web
or whatever we want to call this realm, you know,
(01:09):
there are people that have tried to question it. There
are people that are being dishonest about details, adding on
people straight just cap and putting dubs on stuff, saying
things that aren't you and aren't verified. The question is
why are so little people talking about this case, even
considering the fact that Nicki Minaj jumped into it and
(01:31):
through her hat in the ring to support de More directly,
live online and all through social media. It's for me.
I find it just more evidence that when it comes
to the real things that expose corruption, that expose extortion,
(01:56):
that expose just taking advantage of the criminal justice system
as a whole, it shows how real that is because
there's so many people that aren't talking about it, and
the few that have, including me and you know, Set
in the West and just our team in general. Copyright
(02:17):
strikes out of nowhere, people trying to take down people's channels,
intimidation tactics, all of these things. It's I don't know,
it's kind of kookie.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Before you move further with the conversation, I think you
really got to lay some groundwork because you know, someone
may not know what's going on with this case. So
you know, for those who are unfamiliar, you can you
explain in your own words who Demury Hadley is and
why story matters well.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
As I said earlier, the Mury Hadley is the daughter
of the CEO of Rock Nation, Desire Peress. This is
a person who has a very complicated and very corrupt
background on so many different levels, who has aspired to
very high heights and now has control of this multi
(03:15):
million dollar company. De Morey is a child that was
born at probably one of the most controversial times in
her life, when Desiree was arrested for drug trafficking, got
caught with thirty five kilos of you know, the bowdery stuff,
(03:40):
and somehow managed to only walk away with probation, but
she ended up fucking up, by the lack of a
better term, exactly how, we don't know. There's a lot
of things about that time in her life that had
been concealed, but she sports that had to go into
(04:01):
jail for nine months for probation violation, to which she
had to drop that child off de Moray being that
child one of her five biological six through marriage but
with her father in Florida, and her father raised that
(04:23):
child up until she was about fourteen years old, and
when she went into high school. This is when she
met her now husband, Javon Hadley, and they've been together
for sixteen years. Somewhere along the way, as her mother
(04:43):
grew in power and as she grew you know, her
wealth and you know, her acknowledgement in the rap community
is allegedly some kind of savior. She took a targeted
in in trying to find a way to separate her
(05:03):
very beautiful daughter from her very black boyfriend, and just
years of intrusion, cell phones hacked for almost a decade, cloned,
giving her the ability to be able to put in
messages that weren't there, take messages out that weren't Like
(05:27):
the whole nine yards. She was heavily invested. And then
even after they continued to stay together and they got
out of college, that's when she started with the surveillance
and having Javon Hadley followed. They didn't even realize how
(05:47):
deep it was. Javon had you know, he had his
instincts that told him this was going on. He was
telling Demour the entire time, I don't think your mom
really likes me. I don't think you know, she cares
for us being together. But of course, what child will
want to believe that of their parents, especially when you
(06:09):
know they were still going to family events, going on
vacation with the family being sent you know, football game
tickets to the Dolphins. There was a lot of you know,
back and forth, and for anyone who's seen the series,
or if you haven't seen the series, you really need
(06:29):
to go and just check it out because de Moore
gets into very deep detail about everything that led up
to why they were forced to go through with this
suit after you know they had been well Javan had
been falsely arrested, and then de Moore was detained and
put in a mental facility for things that were so
(06:54):
far from true for her that they couldn't even prove
them themselves. And now she has a gag order on
her and the mother has a lawsuit against her husband.
She has a lawsuit against her mom. It's all a mess.
So I don't know, does that explain it enough? And
(07:15):
for those who haven't seen, you know, like I was saying,
please go and check out Defending Your Freedom the de
Mury Hadley story. You can catch it on Patreon and
you can also catch it on the Jaguar Right Effect,
where it's still available. At one point in time, it
was on the Jaguar Right Show, but that channel got attack,
(07:36):
So please make sure that you're supporting all of the
platforms where we are tackling this story. But coming in here,
this is our first time talking about it here in
the Uncensored podcast. So there's just a lot. So well,
why don't you ask me a couple of questions that
people might want to know, because it's just so much information.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
To see it is, and in all honesty, people really
need to check out episodes one, two, and three. In fact,
they are on the Jaguar Right Uncensored podcast as well.
So I'm sure if you are a follower of Jaguar
you see that there the episodes available. But the awareness
(08:26):
and you explaining to people who you know may not
be familiar with it, that's great. So let's give them
a little backstory. When did you first hear about de
Moores Hadley's story and what was your initial reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, I had started noticing about a month ago that
it had popped up, and of course because of everything
that I've been through and the way that I have
actively campaigned against the abuses and the corruption that I
know in my heart exists within that organization Rock Nation.
(09:02):
You know, we've talked about the Tory Lanes case, we
talked about the trial, you know, we've talked about everything
that's happened there. I've also said that I do believe
and know that there have been other attacks on other artists.
There have been a tacks on my life that resembles
so much of what happened here in this case, but
(09:23):
what really did it for me was that video that
they were leaking out online. It was right around the
time that de Moorey had filed her lawsuit. It became
public knowledge herself and Hilton Hilton Napoleon, her attorney, and
shout out to him, and you know, we keep him
(09:45):
in prayer because, my goodness, the amount of paperwork that
he has to deal with fighting this thing on behalf
of des Moiray is just insurmountable. I can't even I
don't even know when the man has time to sleep,
but regardles list of all of that. When I saw
that video being circulated around on YouTube, from the second
(10:07):
that I saw it, I knew something was wrong and
we looked. I looked, I shared it with you. You looked,
and I studied it. I studied it and studied it
and studied it, and I saw all of the inaccuracies.
I could tell it had been Ai manipulated in the video.
(10:28):
I had initially said I wasn't sure if it was
her or not because the woman in the video was
wearing a COVID mask. We later found out why all
of that was. But I literally took to the jaguar
right effect and I sat down. That video hasn't hit
one hundred thousand views yet. I wonder why. But the
last time I checked, it was over eighty thousand views,
(10:49):
and people came through to watch and to listen to
what I had to say about everything that was wrong.
And as it turned out, because of that breakdown video,
that's when the ad least it reached out to us,
or at least de Moray had, because Javon has a
gag order against him and at that time Demoury was
(11:10):
the only one that didn't have a gag order between
the two of them. So that's when she said, you know,
you're so right about the video, but I want to
tell you everything that actually happened. Yes it was me
in the video, she said, And yes, you were right.
It was altered, it was manipulated. So instantly, you know,
(11:30):
we realized there was a gag order being threatened. It
hadn't happened yet, so we just jumped right in the
studio and we got the whole story. And thank god
that we did when we did, because we were able
to take this whole thing and shape it so people
could see it from their point of view. With the
receipts and shout out to Wolfgang Amadeis, who did such
(11:53):
a fabulous job producing this thing and putting it together
so people could see the receipts along with the commentary,
her actual reaction in real time. It's just it's astounding
because that wasn't the only you know, spoofed evidence that
(12:15):
was used against them. There were other pieces of evidence
that were given to the court that had been taken
from her social media for things that had happened, other
things that had happened, the bruises or scratches from what
was it, the car accident, and then there was a
cooking accident where she had been burned. There was a
(12:38):
whole recording of her allegedly begging not to be raped
by her husband who was allegedly trafficking her to other men.
And it's just insane because when you look at the
lawsuit that her mother has against the husband and the
lawsuit that she has against her mother, the details are
(13:00):
night and day, just night and day. And for me,
I had a hard time walking away from this and
not talking about it because we're sitting there looking at
a black man being framed for doing something that he
didn't do, and you know, for you. For me and
(13:21):
for most of our listeners, that's just that's no bueno.
It's no good, you know, especially not in this day
and age. But the thing that bothered me more than
that was the way the public was willing to accept
the story that he was just this bad black guy
who was taking advantage of this girl who came from
a whooptie doo family and d and they were just
(13:44):
I hated it. I hated it right away, and I
was so glad to talk to Demrey and get the
real from her. And no, not only were my instincts right,
but it was worse than I thought.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's really bad. Is to the point where
you got rock Nation and the CEO striking content creators
for even talking about it. We know, Nicki Minaj tweeted
(14:22):
your video and she put it out on her Instagram
and she has over two hundred what two hundred million subs,
And I just find it interesting where you had a
lot of people who knew about the story, but nobody
really was talking about it. So of course Nicki Minaj
(14:46):
has her beef with Rock Nation in general. She pretty
much said a few things in regards to what was
going on with her she became like one of the
first whistleblowers. I mean you were. But she also, you know,
said that the tactics that they used on her to
(15:06):
like discredit her was similar to what you know, you
in De Morey talked about. So yeah, she she, I'll
just say this, you know what parallels or if you
see any do you see between what happened to de
(15:26):
Moray and your own experience is speaking out well.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
If anyone remembers, I had never really had anything to
say about rock Nation or the Carters at all up
until twenty twenty two. The end of twenty twenty two,
the first time I went back to real life, sat
on the blue couch and there we were, and they
(15:53):
had even asked me, you know what I thought about
mister and what I thought about his meteoric rise to success,
and I spoke very candidly. Actually, I didn't have as
much to say as I had to say later. I
(16:17):
was just pointing out what was obvious that you know,
there were methods that were implored that were used for
him to get to where he got, and most of
the stuff that he did it was malicious and it
was underhanded, and it reaked a criminal organization, and I
made it very clear and said, if that's how you
(16:38):
got to get it, I don't want it. I don't
want to have to tear people apart, tear people's lives apart,
destroy people's character in order to be successful. I don't
consider that good business. Now. Some people say, oh, you
got to be ruthless in business, But ruthless in business
if you have to cheat, and you're talking about government
(16:58):
corruption and things of that nature, that's something different. And
that's pretty much what I experienced after I did that interview.
The second that it hit a million views, guess what happened.
The next thing, you know, my life was being gas lit.
The people around my life were lying, creating stories. I
had a bunch of YouTubers stalking me. I was forced
(17:19):
to be hospitalized based off of false evidence. I was
accused of being on drugs and substances that I had
never taken that were also not found in my system.
I had to go through multiple psyche valuations to prove
that I wasn't schizophrenic, because that's what the police were
trying to force the hospital to give me that and
(17:41):
all of that was being done to discredit everything that
I had to say, and I hadn't even going haavy.
So when I hear about the Morey's story, and once again,
this was in twenty twenty three, I was also thrown
in jail two phony cases, no different than Javon, with
evidence that was not accurate, that was all contrived, you know.
(18:07):
As far as what happened with Nicki Minaj and her
being swatted, I was swatted live on YouTube, and YouTube
pretty much tried to scrub the evidence of that entire
situation away completely. So yeah, I know what these people
are willing to do, but to sit there and look
(18:27):
at the more story and to see it the way
we've seen it, you know, with the body cam footage
and all of these people who were willing and actively
available to lie about this young woman's mental state, to
lie about her being on drugs, to say that she
(18:52):
was suicidal, that they witnessed her trying to overdose, and
yet she goes to the hospital and there's no drugs
in her system at all, but she was ordered to
be drugged with ben a drill which only makes you drowsy.
There there was it would they were they were literally
trying to dopeer up, and if it wasn't for the
(19:13):
people at the hospital, the initial intake that they did
at the hospital there in Broward County. If it wasn't
for their epic ethics, she might have been drugged. Yeah.
You know when we sit there and we look at
you know, the the security company, the people that moved
(19:34):
in across the street from their house after they left,
the cameras that were watching them, and then to have
those cameras. You know, they couldn't get the cameras in
the house, so they got cameras across the street. You
have unlicensed pis that are armed following her daughter and
her husband around. Like just even the way that they
(19:57):
had a GPS on her car so that they could
be tracking her movements to make sure when they lured
her to Danie Beach for what was supposed to have been,
you know, a work call, Like they called their landscaping
business and said that they wanted you know, they wanted
(20:17):
them to come in and do work. So they were
coming to pitch the job. And this was how they
got her there. And just listening to the guy, Oh yeah, yeah,
we got a GPS owner. She's on her way up
the street. If you go and you look because that
was episode two, was it? Or was that episode three? No,
that was episode three when he's sitting there. Yeah, yeah,
(20:40):
she's about to come up the street. Now, we just
want to make sure she doesn't get away. We want
to make sure she doesn't do this. They did everything
they could do to make sure that she got to
that location, which, by the way, was owned by if
I'm correct, someone who was a part of the security team, right,
(21:00):
wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yep, he knew the owners.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, he knew the owners. So this was all worked.
And initially they probably thought that both of them were
coming because usually they would go to consultations together. But
for whatever reason, that day, Jaffon stayed home and she
(21:25):
decided to go and took her dog. And you know,
in episode three, we walked through everything that happened during
her detainment. She made it through the seventy two hours
where they were supposed to release her, and right before
it was time for her to be the release, boom,
here comes the Marchmen act. And now the very doctor
(21:47):
that staged all of this on behalf of her mother.
And let's just be clear, the witnesses that he had
was the mother and an employee of rock Nation, who
hadn't seen her but did say she was trying to overdose.
He said, I have three credible sources that said that
she was this and she was that, and you could
(22:07):
just be acting, you could just be pretending. I have
to keep you here. I have to keep you here.
Even though there was nothing found in her system, even
though she wasn't behaving in any of the manners that
checked off a need for her to stay hospitalized, she
was moved to a facility that he had control over,
specifically where she was also forced to witness some really
(22:32):
terrible things. So, yeah, and then everything that we've come
to learn about doctor Bober and we still haven't even
done our deep dive in our breakdown, our video breakdown
on that, which I think we're going to be handling
that soon before we get to episode four. And I believe,
but when you hear the kind of connections this man has.
(22:52):
He has a spouse that that's in the state's attorney's office.
He has a relative I believe, a brother or a
cousin that's sitting on the bench, all in the same county.
These people have the ability to be able if they
have enough cooperating people working around them, and they can
(23:14):
put the evidence together to just take people off the
street and lock them up. I mean, when de Moray
sat down with BJ the Surprise Witness Salute to BJ,
she was also one of the brave content creators that
decided to take this story on. She had already been
(23:35):
investigating another claim from one of the old members, one
of the old cast members of Jackass who ended up
in Life Skills, the same place De Moore was in
under doctor Bober's care, and he said himself that he
had been sober and for whatever reason, he had to
come to Florida. He met up with a woman who
turned out to be an escort, and all of a
(23:58):
sudden he's being hospitalizing the a drugs in his system
even though he was sober. God knows how that and
he had the same and if I'm correct, didn't he
have the same attorneys coming after him and backing this
whole thing up that went after Britney Spears for her
(24:20):
conservatorship and her you know, it's this is this, this
is dangerous. These people. Ye please, I don't know you
chime in.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well, no, you know what, because there's so many questions,
there's a lot to unpack. We'll have to circle back,
and what I'm gonna say, is anyone interested in asking
a question, I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave a chat
available open over on your your Patreon at patreon dot
(24:56):
com slash jaggar right where we'll come back. We'll circle
back and ask a few more questions because we're already,
you know, so many minutes in, and I don't want
to make this long, but I think I'm gonna just
I just got one more question. But I think I
know a lot of other people have other questions, So
I would advise you to get over to the Patreon.
(25:16):
I mean they are free members, and there's pay members.
I mean, if you could be a free member and
asks a question, if you have any questions in regards
to this story, and I have so many, but I'm
just gonna I'm gonna just put a pin in this
one right here, because you just mentioned life skills, you
mentioned de Morey, naming you know individuals, Daniel Boubar, doctor
(25:39):
Daniel Bobar, Jim Fondo, James, I'm sorry, Steve, and Patty
and even and and and and of course she mentions
her mother in a lawsuit. Do you think well, what
do you think of these allegations? What do you what
do you say? What do they reveal about the power
(26:01):
structure in the entertainment industry and corporate media.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's everything that I've said it is. It's corrupt, it
is moral, and it is abusive. It is abusive, and
especially considering the fact that she's not even in the industry,
She's just the daughter of an industry ceo. She never
actually worked at rock Nation. Her only engagement and involvement
(26:28):
around rock Nation was anything that our mother might have
included her in for a concert here or this and
that there. She did work at Iconics, they were affiliated,
there was some affiliation there, but nothing to do with
the industry. So when you hear about a CEO's child
(26:48):
experiencing the same kind of things like even you know
and shout out to impressive you know over on YouTube.
When they went back and pulled up the old Bobby's
when he kept saying rock Nation has hackers working in there.
They're hacking into all of our stuff. They're messing with us.
I'm telling you, they got us cold.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Like.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Considering artists have been saying this for years, and now
the CEO's daughter is saying, my mother's been hacking my
phone since twenty sixteen. I didn't even know yep, almost
a decade yep. And everything and all of this pingback
(27:32):
to Rock Nation headquarters, and then just even the Natalie
Love character, her sitting there and lying her going to
the Moray's grief counselor who she went to, you know,
and continue to go to just for life work balance
after a very traumatic moment in her life, you know,
(27:53):
in her family, and to go to her and play
a recording that sounded nothing like her trying to convince
her therapist to go along with this whole. She's mentally
unstable and she's being abused. It's really sad because it
makes you think about that whole. That one line that
I hate that that Sean Carter using one of his
(28:14):
old songs, we don't believe you. You need more people.
It goes to show you that this is a mindset.
We're going to get as many people as we can
to tell the same lie, to push the same lie.
We're gonna pay as many people as we can. Matter
of fact, we're gonna go and we're going to enlist
people that we know aren't going to question us. That
(28:36):
we know aren't going to do any pushback that we know,
and considering that was it Stephen Caddy used to work
and head up security for the Dolphins. We already know
the Dolphins. That's n foul. Yep, Like there's so many
(28:56):
there's just so much, there's so much. Soh yeah, we'll
stop it right here, because I know there's a lot
of questions. But yeah, look, we got to ask everybody,
why are we the only ones talking about it? Why
are there so few people talking about it? And what
gives Desiree Perez the right to literally hank down, harass
(29:19):
anybody who wants to tell the truth about what's happening.
Because let's just be clear, you didn't have a problem
with the media getting involved. When TMZ was busy pressuring
the DA about going after Javon, wanting to be in
the courtroom talking about they were going to get why
(29:40):
would they be involved. Nobody even knew this was going on.
None of us knew anything until de Moore filed. So
now it's okay to use TMZ, which is media which
by the way, never reported on this live. They were
just there intimidating the court system about it. Yeah, but
(30:04):
now you have a problem with media talking about.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It, we'll see, we'll put a pin in it there,
because that's exactly what we need to talk about next,
is the role of media and the public perception and
also you know, whistleblower culture and how it's suppressed. And yeah,
if you got any questions, anybody that's listening, if you
(30:27):
got any questions, I would advise you to just get
over to the Patreon, just become a member, and uh yeah,
we'll have something up there. If you guys have a question,
you could ask members members that are on here. If
you remember on a spreaker, then y'all know how to
reach us. There's a secret number. Y'all do that. You
know what I'm saying, But go ahead. Is there anything
(30:48):
else you want to say?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Stay tuned because this is a big conversation and we're
going to keep talking about it. Because if there's one
thing that I believe is it the more this if
someone tries to get you to shut up, the louder
you need to speak.
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