Jaguar’s Lost Files – LIVE is an unfiltered, in-your-face livestream series where music industry whistleblower Jaguar Wright pulls back the curtain on stories they've tried to bury. Broadcasting raw and unscripted, Jaguar dives into current events, industry secrets, and her personal experiences in the music world — from backstage drama to spiritual manipulation. No topic is off limits: she breaks down what's really going on with TD Jakes, Kirk Franklin, and the dark side of gospel and entertainment. If you think you’ve heard it all — you haven’t. These are the files they never wanted you to find.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was a part of that industry. I was set
to be one of the leaders of it, except for
one thing. I did not agree with what they were doing.
I did not agree with it, and I vowed to
break it. I vowed to change it. My agenda is
(00:22):
a cruelty free agenda. My agenda is to make it
possible for children like Blue Ivy and Northwest to just
be kids.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And be talented. If they are finding a way natural reasonably,
they should be children. I beg my dad.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
To let me sign a contract when I was thirteen,
and my father refused. I was so grateful as an
adult that my father didn't allow me to convince him.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
To go off to be a snack for the devil.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That my father knew exactly what this industry was like
and what it did to kids. My father knew and
cared and said no, And I got my deal.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
After I was grown on my own, and then I
found out why my dad was trying to keep me
O Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But when I made it in, my dad said, well,
if God let you make it through, there's got to
be a reason for you to be there, so make
sure you do God's will while you're there.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And I did.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
With parental advisory stickers all over my album. I tricked
the world and the listening to the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it made it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
My quote following who have been with me since the beginning,
who have been with me since ninety eight ninety nine,
they know because to this day, I still have people
come to me and tell me how the songs that
I've written over the course of the past thirty years
of my life have made a difference. See, maybe that's
(02:49):
just the problem. Maybe I was too committed to telling
the truth. When you are an intercessor blessed by God,
(03:10):
he gives you a very very very very very special skill,
the ability to be able to see things from both sides,
the ability to be able to go between both worlds,
to take from the devil to give back to God.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What is God's.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I've always been God's secret shopper. That's not about to
change now, I tell you what. When it gets to
the point where a person keeps telling you something in advance,
and his time matures, the truth and reality steps into view,
(03:55):
they're always right.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
If you have.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Someone that is able to do that and you keep questioning.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Them, especially now.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You need to find yourself a doctor and you need
to get yourself some help. I told everyone, how about
you go to bed, idiot take your own advice? Yes,
(04:35):
because yes, Sua loves us. I tell you who don't
Dechluminati people, They don't give a good damn. TD Jakes
has such a reprobate mind that he actually thought God
was gonna save his duplicitous ass. That's how much in
(04:59):
denial he will about the reality of God. That's how
far gone from God TD Jakes is. That's how far
gone is that he literally had to wait right before
jury's selection to step down from that conversation, that that
(05:19):
congregation that he's led astray.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
What's gonna happen to Jakes? Oh? K Kirk's gonna get exposed.
Oh yeah, see see.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Once you remove the firewall that is TD Jakes, it's
gonna lead right back to Kurk. It's gonna lead right
back all of his twerking for the Lord, all of
(05:56):
his subliminal messages encouraging people to honor the goat over
the lamb. Y'all remember him and Sheryl James.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They did that record stomp talking about stomping in the
name of the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Lord and all of that. In the first place I
heard it was at a strip club with a two
dollar huld clapping the ash cheeks to it. Yeah, but
what lord is she working for? Cause it surely isn't
our lord, and say it. Beyonce needs to go down
(06:47):
for everything, for everything, right with those those fools that
she signed herself up with. People need to start getting wise,
they do. They need to start getting wise. Kurt Franklin
(07:19):
was friends with Robert Kelly, and not once if you
heard him say one word about his friend, who he
knew well enough to call him on his home phone.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah. Stop, that's the first time I heard it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's strip club with a two dollars clapping her cheeks
for change. And when I said, how in God's name
are you playing a gospel song?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They brought the record by even hoes need the Lord?
That was the response.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's funny Kurt can't seem to stop embarrassing himself at
religious events, and Sheryl James' husband of almost thirty years
comes out as gay and she's in therapy trying to
(08:33):
figure out how that happened.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I'm just trying to figure it out. I want to know,
like I really do. I want to know your husband
being gay for how long?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Man M y'all was supposed to be the hip hop
gospel husband and wife. And MM y'all didn't know. Y'all
(09:24):
didn't know that Cheryl sat James's husband. It's homosexual, y'all
didn't know. We didn't gotta talk about the wades. They
relying on cancer diagnoses to get everybody to forget that
(09:44):
they was what they was doing, that they was trying
to become the new Willing Jada, y'all, y'all didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, that's why they got divorced. He came out the closet,
y'all to know.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You was with this man for almost thirty years and
you couldn't tell that he liked penis just as much
as you. That's interesting, especially as many gay people as
she's worked with throughout the years. If anybody should know
the difference between a straight man and a gay man, it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Should be old Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm just trying to figure it out, cause nobody hides
a secret like that from the person who's supposed to
be closest to them for that long. I'm sick and
tired of all of these people who play in the
(10:54):
face of God. I'm so sick of it. You cannot
serve two masters. Now she's saying that she in therapy
(11:17):
trying to figure out, you know, because it's so much
because if he was gay, then then then what does
that say for the rest of her life. She's been
with him, their daughter is approaching thirty and she ain't.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No he's gay.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, but see the thing about that statement that you
just made. This is interesting, but you call your ex.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Gay jag yet and you wanna know what the key
word in that statement that you just made X see
x x See.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's funny y'all be answering your own questions as you
say them and you don't even eat yourselves X meaning
no longer together meaning got rid of meaning out the
way meaning.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm just trying to figure it out. Yeah. Second, I
figured out they side of Mike. They was gone.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm a bisexual woman. Bisexual men have always been attracted
to me. They've been attracted to that energy that I
have that they mistake is masculine rather than just strength.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
None of them are, ok.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Sweetie, because Dana has done her own dirty work too.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't like.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
The fact that ever since gay rights has been recognized
and domestic partnerships have been recognized.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Three three three. I don't like the fact.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That all of these so called gay people justify lying
living in the closet any longer.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Dana's gay, she's been gay. For those who are gay.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
They should be able to say it at this point
in time.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
They shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, it was the obomination, it legalized it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's not you're lying.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
If you are in the closet, you're lying. That's why
I came out almost seven years ago. Yeah, I was
forty one. Because for me to keep pretending.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
That I'm something that I'm not.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Whatever I am, that's between me and God, and I
gotta deal with that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But lying about who you are, God says, come as
you are.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And the only reason people are still afraid is because
they believe that the church was telling the truth about homosexuality.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And it hasn't. It's just that simple. And uh, I
don't know who you are.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You Matundaducci, whatever you gone, you removed. Let's make sure
you gone, because running around asking people questions about things
that they're admitting is only inflammatory. She wasn't acting and
setting off. She was just being herself. And everybody knows
(15:53):
that everybody knows that you know, and people that keep
asking me to talk about any lawsuit is stupid because
it's all a distraction. The simple fact that people still
(16:20):
think it's appropriate to lie about who they are. It's funny.
The church has been lying about homosexuality for many years,
many years, and they've been taking the story of sodom
(16:43):
and glemore and they've been misappropriating it. They've been saying
it's something that it's not, and humanity has just sat
there and ate it all up. Let's be very clear
about sodomymore. It was not destroyed because of their sexuality.
(17:06):
It was destroyed because they were evil and what they
were doing with their sexuality was demonic. That's why the
crime is called sodomy. Sodomites. They were destroyed because they
(17:32):
had become evil, nothing more, nothing less. But it became
an opportunity for the fraudulent church houses to condemn the
very practices they were practicing. And what we're about to
(18:00):
see happen again, sodom and glamour is about to be destroyed.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Again.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
The wrath of God is real, yes, the gatekeepers. God
doesn't destroy people for being who they are. God destroys evil.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Period.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The amount of homosexuals that have been running religious church
houses for years, it's wild, not acknowledged, but the amount
of sodomites who have been allowed to operate in church.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Houses for years, it's evil.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Every minister that's taken advantage of his female permission parishioners.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Should be charged with ex crimes. Every minister of religious leader.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Who was touched a child and appropriately and then shamed
the parents and then triangulated and got the whole church
to run down on a family for telling the truth
about his crimes against God should be thrown in jail.
And it's not just a black thing, it's all religious houses.
(19:55):
The Catholic Church and the people that they have appointed
have ruined more children. The simple fact that it's still
operating goes to show you how weak this world is.
(20:18):
Because you can't tell me that a lot of the
crap that's happened in the Catholic Church hasn't revolved around
human trafficking. There's no way you have that many crimes
against children done internationally.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Grand Rising. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And to see how black folks have just embraced the
indoctrinization of the weirdness it's disgusting, and people still show up,
(21:08):
and they still pay the times, and all they're doing
is supporting trafficking in their churches, in God's house, trafficking.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You have proof? Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The question is why don't nobody want to see the proof?
Why don't nobody want the truth? Why don't why don't
they want it? You can all sit here and you
can fool yourselves, or you can take this opportunity and
time to use it to get closer to God, because
(22:05):
they have all led the world astray, all of 'em.
I was a part of that industry. I was set
to be one of the leaders of it, except for
one thing. I did not agree with what they were doing.
I did not agree with it, and I vowed to
break it. I vowed to change it. My agenda is
(00:22):
a cruelty free agenda. My agenda is to make it
possible for children like Blue Ivy and Northwest to just
be kids.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And be talented. If they are finding a way natural reasonably,
they should be children. I beg my dad.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
To let me sign a contract when I was thirteen,
and my father refused. I was so grateful as an
adult that my father didn't allow me to convince him.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
To go off to be a snack for the devil.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That my father knew exactly what this industry was like
and what it did to kids. My father knew and
cared and said no, And I got my deal.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
After I was grown on my own, and then I
found out why my dad was trying to keep me
O Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
But when I made it in, my dad said, well,
if God let you make it through, there's got to
be a reason for you to be there, so make
sure you do God's will while you're there.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And I did.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
With parental advisory stickers all over my album. I tricked
the world and the listening to the truth.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And it made it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
My quote following who have been with me since the beginning,
who have been with me since ninety eight ninety nine,
they know because to this day, I still have people
come to me and tell me how the songs that
I've written over the course of the past thirty years
of my life have made a difference. See, maybe that's
(02:49):
just the problem. Maybe I was too committed to telling
the truth. When you are an intercessor blessed by God,
(03:10):
he gives you a very very very very very special skill,
the ability to be able to see things from both sides,
the ability to be able to go between both worlds,
to take from the devil to give back to God.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What is God's.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I've always been God's secret shopper. That's not about to
change now, I tell you what. When it gets to
the point where a person keeps telling you something in advance,
and his time matures, the truth and reality steps into view,
(03:55):
they're always right.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
If you have.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Someone that is able to do that and you keep questioning.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Them, especially now.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You need to find yourself a doctor and you need
to get yourself some help. I told everyone, how about
you go to bed, idiot take your own advice? Yes,
(04:35):
because yes, Sua loves us. I tell you who don't
Dechluminati people, They don't give a good damn. TD Jakes
has such a reprobate mind that he actually thought God
was gonna save his duplicitous ass. That's how much in
(04:59):
denial he will about the reality of God. That's how
far gone from God TD Jakes is. That's how far
gone is that he literally had to wait right before
jury's selection to step down from that conversation, that that
(05:19):
congregation that he's led astray.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
What's gonna happen to Jakes? Oh? K Kirk's gonna get exposed.
Oh yeah, see see.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Once you remove the firewall that is TD Jakes, it's
gonna lead right back to Kurk. It's gonna lead right
back all of his twerking for the Lord, all of
(05:56):
his subliminal messages encouraging people to honor the goat over
the lamb. Y'all remember him and Sheryl James.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
They did that record stomp talking about stomping in the
name of the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Lord and all of that. In the first place I
heard it was at a strip club with a two
dollar huld clapping the ash cheeks to it. Yeah, but
what lord is she working for? Cause it surely isn't
our lord, and say it. Beyonce needs to go down
(06:47):
for everything, for everything, right with those those fools that
she signed herself up with. People need to start getting wise,
they do. They need to start getting wise. Kurt Franklin
(07:19):
was friends with Robert Kelly, and not once if you
heard him say one word about his friend, who he
knew well enough to call him on his home phone.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah. Stop, that's the first time I heard it.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's strip club with a two dollars clapping her cheeks
for change. And when I said, how in God's name
are you playing a gospel song?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They brought the record by even hoes need the Lord?
That was the response.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's funny Kurt can't seem to stop embarrassing himself at
religious events, and Sheryl James' husband of almost thirty years
comes out as gay and she's in therapy trying to
(08:33):
figure out how that happened.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I'm just trying to figure it out. I want to know,
like I really do. I want to know your husband
being gay for how long?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Man M y'all was supposed to be the hip hop
gospel husband and wife. And MM y'all didn't know. Y'all
(09:24):
didn't know that Cheryl sat James's husband. It's homosexual, y'all
didn't know. We didn't gotta talk about the wades. They
relying on cancer diagnoses to get everybody to forget that
(09:44):
they was what they was doing, that they was trying
to become the new Willing Jada, y'all, y'all didn't know.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, that's why they got divorced. He came out the closet,
y'all to know.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
You was with this man for almost thirty years and
you couldn't tell that he liked penis just as much
as you. That's interesting, especially as many gay people as
she's worked with throughout the years. If anybody should know
the difference between a straight man and a gay man, it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Should be old Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm just trying to figure it out, cause nobody hides
a secret like that from the person who's supposed to
be closest to them for that long. I'm sick and
tired of all of these people who play in the
(10:54):
face of God. I'm so sick of it. You cannot
serve two masters. Now she's saying that she in therapy
(11:17):
trying to figure out, you know, because it's so much
because if he was gay, then then then what does
that say for the rest of her life. She's been
with him, their daughter is approaching thirty and she ain't.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
No he's gay.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, but see the thing about that statement that you
just made. This is interesting, but you call your ex.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Gay jag yet and you wanna know what the key
word in that statement that you just made X see
x x See.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's funny y'all be answering your own questions as you
say them and you don't even eat yourselves X meaning
no longer together meaning got rid of meaning out the
way meaning.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm just trying to figure it out. Yeah. Second, I
figured out they side of Mike. They was gone.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm a bisexual woman. Bisexual men have always been attracted
to me. They've been attracted to that energy that I
have that they mistake is masculine rather than just strength.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
None of them are, ok.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Sweetie, because Dana has done her own dirty work too.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't like.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
The fact that ever since gay rights has been recognized
and domestic partnerships have been recognized.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Three three three. I don't like the fact.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That all of these so called gay people justify lying
living in the closet any longer.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Dana's gay, she's been gay. For those who are gay.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
They should be able to say it at this point
in time.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
They shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, it was the obomination, it legalized it.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's not you're lying.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
If you are in the closet, you're lying. That's why
I came out almost seven years ago. Yeah, I was
forty one. Because for me to keep pretending.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
That I'm something that I'm not.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Whatever I am, that's between me and God, and I
gotta deal with that.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But lying about who you are, God says, come as
you are.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And the only reason people are still afraid is because
they believe that the church was telling the truth about homosexuality.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And it hasn't. It's just that simple. And uh, I
don't know who you are.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You Matundaducci, whatever you gone, you removed. Let's make sure
you gone, because running around asking people questions about things
that they're admitting is only inflammatory. She wasn't acting and
setting off. She was just being herself. And everybody knows
(15:53):
that everybody knows that you know, and people that keep
asking me to talk about any lawsuit is stupid because
it's all a distraction. The simple fact that people still
(16:20):
think it's appropriate to lie about who they are. It's funny.
The church has been lying about homosexuality for many years,
many years, and they've been taking the story of sodom
(16:43):
and glemore and they've been misappropriating it. They've been saying
it's something that it's not, and humanity has just sat
there and ate it all up. Let's be very clear
about sodomymore. It was not destroyed because of their sexuality.
(17:06):
It was destroyed because they were evil and what they
were doing with their sexuality was demonic. That's why the
crime is called sodomy. Sodomites. They were destroyed because they
(17:32):
had become evil, nothing more, nothing less. But it became
an opportunity for the fraudulent church houses to condemn the
very practices they were practicing. And what we're about to
(18:00):
see happen again, sodom and glamour is about to be destroyed.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Again.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
The wrath of God is real, yes, the gatekeepers. God
doesn't destroy people for being who they are. God destroys evil.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Period.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The amount of homosexuals that have been running religious church
houses for years, it's wild, not acknowledged, but the amount
of sodomites who have been allowed to operate in church.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Houses for years, it's evil.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Every minister that's taken advantage of his female permission parishioners.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Should be charged with ex crimes. Every minister of religious leader.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Who was touched a child and appropriately and then shamed
the parents and then triangulated and got the whole church
to run down on a family for telling the truth
about his crimes against God should be thrown in jail.
And it's not just a black thing, it's all religious houses.
(19:55):
The Catholic Church and the people that they have appointed
have ruined more children. The simple fact that it's still
operating goes to show you how weak this world is.
(20:18):
Because you can't tell me that a lot of the
crap that's happened in the Catholic Church hasn't revolved around
human trafficking. There's no way you have that many crimes
against children done internationally.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Grand Rising. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And to see how black folks have just embraced the
indoctrinization of the weirdness it's disgusting, and people still show up,
(21:08):
and they still pay the times, and all they're doing
is supporting trafficking in their churches, in God's house, trafficking.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You have proof? Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The question is why don't nobody want to see the proof?
Why don't nobody want the truth? Why don't why don't
they want it? You can all sit here and you
can fool yourselves, or you can take this opportunity and
time to use it to get closer to God, because
(22:05):
they have all led the world astray, all of 'em.
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