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Hello, and welcome to Jamie's Club. I am so thankful to you for
joining me on this podcast, becausewell, I want to do it more
often. So if you could leavea five star or ten star or whatever
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would help me out a lot.And if you could manage to put a
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because that will help with the algorithmand all that kind of stuff that it
likes picking up, and hopefully morepeople will get to listen to my podcasts
and I'll get to make more episodes. So I was thinking about I guess
I was thinking for a long time, who do I have as the first
guest? And I just thought itto myself. I think, ironically a
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lot in life about death and whathappens after we die. So I thought
that Luke Patrick, who is apsychic medium clairvoyant, would be the perfect
person to speak to because he talksof dead people all the time. I'm
curious and I had to ask himwhat's it like being dead? What's it
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like on the other side and forus that are still here and our spirits
everywhere? Are they Are they hangingaround like when we're getting changed, or
we're in the shower, we're inintimate moments. Are they watching us all
the time? It might be aweird question, but I'm happy to ask
all the weird, strange questions,and about the clairvoyant stuff. I am
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just so interested in that because Iguess the number one question that I have,
and a lot of people would haveto think the same thing, is,
if you're a clairvoyant and you cansee the future, why wouldn't you
just win a lotto every week?Why wouldn't you just walk into a casino
and go yet Roulett Wheel's going tostop on sick next and just whack on
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everything you own onto it and dothat a couple of times over and suddenly
you're rich. Right, Why don'tClearlance do that? And I think that
that's a reasonable question, And Lukedoes give some interesting responses into that one,
and in fact, he is suchan interesting bloke. I'm not surprised
that Luke has clients all over theworld, and he must get some stuff
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right to keep getting these bookings andkeep doing these shows. He must be
giving people something and he is avery very interesting bloke to talk to,
and I hope that you enjoy thechat with him as much as I enjoyed
it. So I started off askingLuke about how we would explain what he
does to someone in a pub.How do you tell people what you do?
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Okay, we're at a pub right, and I'm like, oh,
what do you do for a living? You just like flat out talk to
dead people. Well, I thinkat the end of the day, it's
a subject that can't arise, youknow, if people say, well,
what do you do? Well,it's just something that you know, I've
had from a from a younger child, and some people will be able to
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relate to this. But the psychicand the medium didn't always. It didn't
actually happen as one. The psychicpart happened first, and then the mediumship,
so the messages and those of thepast happened at a later stage.
So it was kind of like intwo stages for me. So psychic medium
is a loose term that we coulduse for you. Yeah, yeah,
it is, But I prefer tocall myself a spiritual psychic because so many
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people now you know I refer tothemselves as a psychic medium, But you
know, I believe that I'm aspiritual person, so spiritual psychic rang more
true to me than psychic medium.But even though that that's what people would
would label me as. So thepsychic stuff came first, and psychic then,
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as I understand, it would bethat you're in touch with a different
reality or is that is that fortunetelling? Is that is that predicting the
future, or is that reading people'sthoughts. The psychic side is probably more
so in relation to predicting events offuture, events that are currently happening in
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people's lives, and also events thathave previously happened, so past, present,
and future. So the psychic sidewould be more so. You know,
if someone would come to see anindividual who is psychic about maybe career
work, you know, things thatare happening in their life or have happened,
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or relationships. The medium side isthose people that have passed over,
So you know where people would comeand want to hopefully connect with a loved
one that they've got passed to relaypossibly their name, how they passed,
things that are also relevant to theperson that would be having the sitting.
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So in terms of a message ofpossibly that the person. You know,
brother may have passed and you know, the person coming may not have actually
got to get to their brother beforethey passed. But you know, spirit
or the brother that's passed can confirmevents that led up and connect with things
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that the sitter only knows. Well, no, I didn't get to see
my brother before he passed, andthe brother can confirm with he had X
amount of children, he was married, and what he did for his for
his you know, for his career, and relay messages that would be relating
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to either the sitter or to thesitter's family. So the mediumship is about
the validation of a proof of survival. So we continue to live, but
of course in a spirit form,and that basically spirit that has passed is
providing us evidence of the past person'slife that the cita can relate to him
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and say, yes, my brotherwas this, my brother was you know,
things that are relevant and then getmessages from But you're saying that's more
that sounds more like the medium stuff. That's the medium stuff, the psychic
stuff. So you're saying that you'rea child and you know what's going to
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happen next. How do you howdo you work out. Well, for
instance, I was I remember Iwas about twelve, and I've done a
reading for a friend of friend ofthe family. Her name was Traverse or
Terra Cita, and she wrote downthe things that I said, and I
think there were eleven or twelve.Anyway, years later she still had that
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piece of paper and she said,remember when you were like only you know,
quite quite young. And she said, well, guess what she said.
Eleven of the twelve things happened,you know, and she ticked them
off over the years, and someof the detail was very significant about grandchildren,
about career, or about family,so that the psychic side, so
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the predictions, so that the thingsthat would occur, and she said,
well, here's your feedback. Elevenout of the twelve things happened. And
I was like, wow, thisis amazing. But I was only twelve,
so, you know, and Iwould just get things, or someone
would be pregnant and I would getwhat's going to be going to be a
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boy? Or I would say tosomeone there's a new job coming up,
and the new job would happen.So I just started trusting the intuition and
the thoughts in my mind that Iwas getting and then just relaying what I
felt for that particular person. Ogood. I'll tell you something. Something
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weird happened to me one time thatI just I was okay, I'm sitting
watching the news and I'm I'm withpartner at the time, and as I'm
watching the news, the Prime Ministerwas flying into a war zone somewhere in
Afghanistan or something, and there wassomeone standing in as prime minister, and
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I went suddenly the news seemed likea movie I'd seen before, and I'm
like, shit, I know whathappens next. I've seen this one.
The blane crashes, and it wasjust so convinced that that's what was going
to happen, right. I goto bed, get up the next day,
and my partner's like in the landroom just looking at the TV and
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she's swearing at it, and she'sgoing, Okay, this is weird.
His plane didn't crash, but itfilled the smoke in the cabin and they
had to have an emergency landing.And it was just it stuck with me
that I had this overwhelming sense andis it kind of like that that reality
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is a movie you've seen before.I feel one hundred percent that everyone has
an ability. However, our upbringing, our beliefs, or how we are
brought up can also effect whether welisten to our intuition, kind of like
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a gut feeling, if that makesany sense. We have to I mean,
you knew it was your truth.You knew that you were feeling this
impression or this picture in your mindabout that particular scenario because you had that
in a knowing that something wasn't right. But that was we'll say a higher
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self, a higher consciousness of youconnecting with your physical thoughts letting you know
something wasn't quite right on that plane. So you were actually connecting with your
own clairvoyance, because clairvoyance is anotherword, you know for psychic. So
I mean, at the end ofthe day, you were just tapping in
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to an event that you were ableto tap into because you were consciously aware
something wasn't wasn't right on another level. Sometimes people call it deja vu.
They think they go somewhere and say, oh, I've been here before.
Don't. People say, like,deja vu is just the information hitting one
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side of your brain milliseconds before theother and then you feel like it's new
information. Well, look, Imean people people can perceive those as many
things, but to the way thatI understand it, it is, you
know, someone who's having an experience, but they know they have they have
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a connection to the experiencing, tothe sorry to the experience that they're actually
having at that particular moment. Soit's almost like I've been to places,
you know, and been to placesoverseas, and it's almost like, oh
my god, this feels so familiar, and I'll go there's going to be
a building here, There's going tobe a bakery over here. And I
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was like, oh my god,there was there was a bakery, you
know. And I was like,how do I know? Because there is
a connection in some higher consciousness orawareness that you've experienced this before. Does
that make sense? Well, notexactly because you've never been there, you
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have been experienced it well, andthen we go into the conversation of past
lives, right, So I mean, this is a subject that can be
going many different directions, but Iwould say deja vu for me and for
my understanding, it's something that we'vealready experienced, but we're experienced again because
it's a familiar reality, something isfamiliar to our consciousness and specifically, something
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that's familiar that shouldn't be. Well, there's no actually weird right, Well,
that's right because in this life ayou know, for example, if
you've lived in New Zealand your wholelife, you've never been to Ireland before.
But when you've when you've traveled fromNew Zealand to Ireland for the first
time, and you happen to bein a town or a village or something,
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and you're saying to someone, ohmy god, this is familiar.
There will be this here that weare church there, there will be et
cetera, et cetera, and it'slike it is. So there's another topic
for another day because and then it'sunexplainable, you know too, you know
to go, well, you knowthere's a connection, but a connection in
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a previous life, so that youknow that brings up the whole subject about
reincarnation. My goodness, there's justso much that we don't understand, and
I think that we try our bestto understand it in scientific terms. And
that's where I go back to thatwhole thing of deja vu, being that
the information in a fraction of asecond has hit one side of your brain
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and then hits the other and yougo, wow, I've experienced that before.
Even though that fraction of a secondisn't anything in kind of real time
in your processing of your brain,that's quite a lot of time, right,
So I think that's how we tryand understand it scientifically. But then
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there's things that are unexplainable, andI think to think that we as animals
know everything is quite arrogant of usright at the end of the day.
To my understanding and to my psychicintuition, we are not using the full
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percentage of our consciousness. And youknow, it's something over the years that
I feel that has been sort ofmaybe taken away from us, because if
everyone was bright and aware and awakeand aware and was able to know things
possibly or know the right direction orthe right career path or to excelling this
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particular area, the world would bea different place because people would be functioning
at a higher level of intuition,a higher level of consciousness. The world
probably would be in a much betterstate of affairs as well, because we
wouldn't be able to be conditioned,say in little boxes. It's just a
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subject that can go into many different, two different avenues. It's why I
love this stuff. It's like it'sjust different ideas and different ways of looking
at the same subjective experience. Andthat's what's cool about it, Luke,
I want to take you back tothe psychic thing, the premonition thing,
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the claar buoyance. Right, theskeptics are all going to say the same
thing. Right, they're probably listeningto this right now, going, well,
if you could just tell the future, then you could just tell us
what the lot of numbers are thisweek. You could tell us which footy
team is going to win. Andactually, if you could tell me that,
that would be really valuable. Butdo they know that? Can you
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see that? Look, at theend of the day, people will have,
you know, those type of thingsthat you know that they will say.
And I'm for sure and for certainthere are psychics out there that may
have some success with those sorts ofthings. However, everyone will be coming
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in as a different level of psychicnous or you know, a beginner to
someone that that's had it from frombirth, where I believe that I have,
it's just you know, developed overa period of time. But you
know, some people will have differentabilities. Some people will have different abilities
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to uh, you know, regresssomeone you know in a past life session.
Some people will be able to youknow, have a niche or a
particular area that they might focus on. I would love to know the lotto
numbers or who was going to win. And sometimes I have, you know,
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had a little bit of success.You know, I might have three
and one s up or four numbersor something like that. Or you know,
occasionally I'll get the feeling, oh, this team will win, but
you know, it doesn't happen veryoften. But why doesn't that happen very
often? I think at the endof the day, I see that the
universe has laws, or we havethere are spiritual laws, and potentially a
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higher power may intervene for because ifyou think about it, if you have
Rosemary the psychic somewhere and she knowsa lot of numbers all the time,
she could basically go and win thelotto any night of the week, so
she would basically have an unfair advantageon the rest of the population. So
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that having clear boys, well,at the end of the day, I
would like to see that we havean advantage in some areas, but at
the end of the day, Isee that is a little bit unfair too,
because you know a phrasemery can getthe lot of numbers. Well,
I probably wouldn't tell anyone I coulddo that if I could, because you
know, you might be kidnapped forsomeone that might go I want him,
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and you know I want to Iwant the details, so you could actually
become a target. So I dofeel that the creator is looking out for
us, and if someone has gotthose abilities, I would probably tend to
keep it quiet for safety. Forsafety reasons, perhaps that's probably the best
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way that I can answer that.I'd love to take you to a casino
and we'll go to the biulette wheeland you can just quietly say, hey,
sixteen's coming up, A red's comingup. It would be more successful
with the red and black, right, it would because of the perception of
color, So I would I wouldmore so have more success with black or
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red, okay, because a colorwould have more or feeling to it than
a number. For me. Youknow, that would be such an interesting
test. I'm thinking right to seebecause purely statistically, you should get the
right color. I would say,I would say seventy percent of the time,
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I probably would know what the colorwould be I'd say I'd have about
three, three xs and seven picks. That is my intuitional feeling on it.
Wow, however, but I justgot a phone call from every casino
in the world in your bend.That is just my feeling because colors are
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a little bit more perceptional because basicallywe're bombarded by colors all the time.
We were also bombarded by numbers,but colors possibly would I feel would be
more easier to get than than numbers. See, I love I love betting,
and I love betting systems, andto think that if you could go,
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if you could go over fifty percent, right, that would be an
endless source of income because you coulddo that as long as you didn't get
taken out the back of the casinoand beating up and it's safety right.
I wouldn't tell anybody. Can youpromise me that next time you have a
really strong feeling on like a sportingoutcome, that you tell me, because
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I I can do yourself. AllI can say here is I don't know
if there is a team, andI live in Australia, but is there
something called the Milwaukee Rangers? Thereis there a team out there that someone
can is some Milwaukee Rangers. It'ssomething like that. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know what it could beany sport. As soon as you said
that, all I got was MilwaukeeRangers. So I don't know where Milwaukee
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is in America, but I'm prettysure it's a it's a state or or
a major place in a state orsomething. But yeah, that that come
to mind, So maybe something.Maybe there could be a lot of searches
on the end and there. Rightnow Google is spiking this second, actually
it is. Wow, that's that'samazing because like that would that just blows
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my mind that stuff. And Idefinitely you and I are definitely going to
a casino one day very soon.But incognito, yeah, well we're fake
mustaches naturally, those two guys fromMustaches again. We I want to talk
to you also about the mediumship stuff, right, So are you you legitimately
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are talking to people who are dead? Is that? Have I got that
right? Is it like? Arethey just hanging around? Are they here?
I see it that they've only transitionedinto our spirit bodies. So our
soul or our spirit constantly lives.And yes, I'm in contact with those
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that have departed the physical side oflife. And I can explain very quickly
that when I was fourteen, Iattended a seniors dance with my grandmother and
it was just just a normal randomday, you know, not a lot
to do. I thought, I'llgo with nand to know, because there's
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always good food. When older peopleback in the day, they really had
an act for making things especially sweet. So the Countrywomen's Association CWA, I'm
on board. I know, yeah, absolutely beautiful, but also too old
older people can can inspire you withwisdom and knowledge about the past and give
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you things that maybe technology maybe can'tgive you today because there's nothing life like
life experience. But I attended thisdance and I'm sitting there. Of course
I was eating and anyway, thisthis this voice, this is like this,
that lady over there is going topass away, like I have a
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heart attack, and I'm like thinking, and I'm thinking. It was like
a thought, like I'm getting athought, like I'm getting a psychic kind
of thought, and no one waslike a very masculine voice, very masculine
with that that lady is going topass away. You're going to have a
heart attack and and you know,pass away and I thought to myself,
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what a horrible thought to have.How could I think such a thing?
You know, this lady's dancing andyou know, everything's going, she's having
a great time. Is it almostlike you're thinking you're wishing it appon her
or something. Well, I justsort of felt that it's awful. I
shouldn't be having thoughts like that,you know, but it wasn't because but
it was this masculine voice. Itwas in my mind. It was like
it was anyway, I'm sitting there, and about forty five minutes later,
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so within about the hour, thatlady collapses on the floor. No,
and I and I'm like, ah, okay, we will just that hasn't
happened. That's not happening. Iwasn't told what I was told. And
then the ambulance came and she passedaway as she was going into the ambulance.
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So I'm like, oh, heck, what's happening in my mind?
And my I was like freaking out. So that was my introduction to medium.
Shoot. So yeah, at theend of the day, it was
almost like and then I had thesevoices, you know, I would say
that they were this person's loved oneor that person's friend that's passed or what
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have you. And and it waswas quite rapidly as things developed from there.
So who told you that this lady'sgoing to die? A relative of
the lady that passed, knew thatI was going to be there, knew
that I was a naturally gifted.I just couldn't see this, dude,
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or I could hear them, butI couldn't actually see, but like pictures
and things. And I was havingthe psychic side of seeing this lady collapse,
but also hearing this voice saying thislady is going to collapse. Of
course I wouldn't say whereabouts this wasbecause I mean, you know, if
you know, I don't want tosay this lady would have loved ones that
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are still here, so you respectingprivacy. But it certainly happened, and
I must say it frightened me.It frightened me because I'm thinking, why
would I hear something so strong andreceive something so strong? So the psychic
side was colliding with the mediumship forthe first time. And how old a
human this happened? Fourteen fourteen?That's so are you saying that you don't
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so you don't see dead people?Around you. It's not like it's not
like in my mind's in my mind'seye that you can experience things. So
you can experience things like a televisionluck of radio, so you're getting pictures
and images. You're also hearing hearingvoices feminine or masculine, so you know,
movies are also created for entertainment.However, the entertainment industry also lets
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people know of how things can bereal. And some mediums and some psychics
will experience some really negative experiences.But don't forget where there's a positive experience,
there's always a you know, onethat may not be so positive.
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So you get you get like theYan Yang kind of scenario. You win
at the casino, going back tothe casino, you can tell them a
little obsessed, you want some money. The casino has lost some money,
right, how so, so you'retelling me that Bruce willis in the sixth
sense. It's not like there's justpeople walking around and you're like, oh,
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they're dead. Some mediums will actuallyexperience actually seeing the physical person of
you know what, because I havehad a few experiences where I've gone,
this is what they're wearing. They'rewearing this shirt, this is you know
the cap that they wore, thisis the pants that they're wearing, and
it could be the loved one thathas passed and you're describing what the person's
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dad would have all Jean's Flamelett's shirt, you know, thong something like that
that can happen. Sounds like abogan that passed away. Well, I
didn't say that, because there aregood people in all walks of life.
Of course. Of course, I'mjust so interested in how this in how
this works, and it's I feellike the movies have lied to me a
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little bit, I guess sensationalized it. But yeah, so you experience it
more on an audio level than ona visual A mental a mental visual,
yes, and an audio. SoI'll get a picture and I will also
hear sounds like a TV. Butspirit I are in control, are in
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control of how I will perceive themessage to be able to pass it on.
So then is there anyone dead hangingaround right now? Is there anyone
here? No? Not at themoment. And that that's that's the thing
that I will always say that I'mjust not going to sit there and make
something up for the sake of sayingit. I'm not getting anything in terms
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of you know, a person connectedto you at the moment. So it's
something that that that will come in. So if I'm going to sit down
with someone and do a do aphone reading or a personal you know,
face to face reading to someone,when when that when that happens, occasionally,
you know, Spirit will know,the loved ones will know that someone
is coming. And usually you know, it connects and makes sense. But
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sometimes someone can also just get likea future or you know current pass future
of more the psychic side of things. So you know, I'm spirit are
really in charge of what comes throughhow it comes through. But no,
there isn't anyone at the particular moment. So and that's something I will only
pass something over if I am genuinelyfeeling to actually pass it over. Right.
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So is just to say then thateveryone who's dead or transitioned as you
say, like they are, theyare just like living somewhere else and it's
just like a city and they're likegoing to work, got different families over
there. Are they just hanging out? Are they waiting? I believe well,
I trust in the information the itemsthat I've received from from spirit that
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heaven is basically just the another vibrationto our physical realm. But basically,
you know, I've had it describedto me as a big, beautiful,
beautiful garden with fields, waterways,streams, but really lit up, really
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lit up. So the colors aremagnificent, so you know, crystal clear,
like a thousand times brighter than whatyou would get on the best kind
of like television that you could buy. Everything is like, everything is perfect,
There is no pain, there isno suffering, and manifestation in spirit
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world, you can manifest anything withoutactually doing anything because we are infinite and
this is the thing, we areactually infinite beings or spirit having a physical
experience. It doesn't kind of likeunfortunately, manifestation doesn't normally work instantly for
us here on the physical, butwhen we transition, we can manifest anything
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of our dreams. It could bewe want to swim with dolphins, Well
we can swim with dolphins because itis unlimited. It is beautiful, it
is peaceful, and it is itis just a beautiful place to be.
So you know, I've had ityou described to me, and in different
visions, I've seen things to bejust so beautiful and everything is just a
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thousand times or a million times,and more beautiful than than what we have
here. So on the flip sideof that, then is there a help
for people that are bad? WhatI would like to say to that is
where there? And I said beforeyou know where there? It is a
positive? There is a negative tomy understand I won't say hell as per
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se, but there are there isa negative side or the punishment if you
do bad things in your physical experience. Look, there there are experiences that
ourselves will have to experience. Sosay, for instance, and this is
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my own understanding from from what Ican get, so say if you were
you were bullied, So say ifyou bullied me relentlessly, relentlessly, and
you would then have to experience thefeelings and emotions of what it is like
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to be bullied. Does that makesense to what you did towards that other
soul? Does that make sense?So you're actually so you will experience things.
So yes, the negative side forme and for my understanding is yes,
there is a negative side. Idon't like to use the word hell.
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People could potentially say, yes,there there is, but I feel
hell isn't. It is in ais a more complicated aspect to describe I,
you know, perceive my I perceivemyself as a spiritual person. I
like to focus on the positive ofthe goodness of life, the goodness of
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the afterlife. Yes, there isa negative and will say an evil aspect.
But I find that sometimes a littlebit hard to explain because I don't
focus my energy on that aspect ofthings. Does that make sense? Because
I don't want to draw in anynegative energy around me? Does that make
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sense? It's it's interesting what yousay to me in that we are infinite
spiritual beings having a physical experience,because it's like it turns on its head
for me in that I feel likemy life is me being alive right now,
and anything spiritual is the other side. But it's like the way you
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say it is almost like my infinitelife is on the other side, somewhere
else, and this is just ablip on the radar my life. And
when my life, my physical lifeends, I'm almost going back to something
else. But we go back tothe Creator and just or God, and
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I seek God as a beautiful wordto you know, to say, the
universe, the Creator, God,angels are very much real, and there
is some beautiful people around the worldthat that speak of angels and experiences that
they've they've had, and also peoplethat have had near death experiences that say
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they've been having a surgery and they'veexperienced for a few moments being passed.
People come back with messages and whatthey have seen. But everyone that all
the the videos and the things thatI've listened to, everyone will have a
different experience as well. You know, you could have a very deeply religious
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person that has passed and it hasexperienced things to their belief, but you
know they've come back with a messageand I absolutely believe you know what they've
had because it's been true to them. Everyone will have different experiences, So
you know, the afterlife is avery interesting, very interesting place for us
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that are still here that are curious. Well I'm not so much curious,
but I'm infinitely people would be.And I don't know what it's like when
to die and what happens after Idie. I feel like it's been a
lot of my day, a lotof my time wondering about this stuff.
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Look, at the end of theday, no one, no one should
to fear death. But the biggestthing that I will say is that you
know to do you know, toto do good acts, to do good
intentions, you know, for yourfamily, for yourself, you know,
very much, for yourself, butalso for other people. To live the
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best life that you can hear inharmony with you know, love to all
and harm to none, and reallyjust be the best person that you can
be. Because one thing that Iwill say, it's not that what we
have accumulated in life. It's notwhat you know, whether we have been
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homeless on the street or whether we'velived in an eighteen bedroom mansion in these
suburbs of Beverly Hills. That thewhat spirit see and the high levels of
spirit is how we've communicated with otherpeople, how we have perceived life.
So it's about the communication, whatwe did for others, whether we were
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kind to other people. It's it'snot about you know, having material things
is wonderful. You know, havinga nice home, a nice car,
and nice things is fantastic, andmaterial things is part of our experience here.
But it's it's it's not about that. It's about whether you know,
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say our neighbor has had a falland they can't do something. But what
spirit world is looking as have weactually gone to our neighbor and actually helped
that particular person, or said,look, can we cook you some meals?
Or you know, can we takeyou to the doctors, or you
know, it's making impact on thelives of others strangers and the lives of
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family and how we actually communicate withother people. So no matter how you
frame it, whether you see itas a as a good Christian act if
you're a Christian, or you seeit as as as as being a good
Hindu, it doesn't really matter howyou frame it. It's just what you
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actually do in the impact that youhave. My understanding and and and my
one hundred percent belief is it doesnot matter how you choose to understand or
find the creator or find the thequestions of life. So whether you're Hindu,
Buddhism, Catholic, whatever you maydo, as long as you find
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comfort and peace and you are reallyenjoying that particular experience or that religious aspect,
that is absolutely fine. But aslong as you do it in peace
and not harming anyone else with thosebelief that you have, does that make
sense. So you're saying, ifyou in your physical life get really rich
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and say you're doing that by screwingover people, making people, you know,
underpay people and live in terrible conditionsand have stressful jobs, and you
reap all those benefits. You're goingto have lots of wealth, material wealth
in this world, and you're goingto enjoy your physical experience, but you're
going to feel that when you eventuallygo to the other side. Is that
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what you're saying to me, Ido one percent feel that we have to
acknowledge and we have to experience whatwe put other people through. So it's
looking at your intentions, so yourintention to you know, even yourself,
being kind to yourself, but alsobeing kind to others and basically just trying
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to be the best person that youcan be. That is the most important
thing is when we cross, weare are looked at to how we interacted
with other souls on this earth,as well as animals, you know,
as well as nature that you don'tneed animals, no, look, that
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comes down to a person's individual choice. And at the end of the day,
I mean anyone spiritual religious You've gotpeople that don't eat meat, You've
got people that do eat meat.But I also feel that at times or
even some people may may on aregular basis that you need to give thanks
to that you know in your ownmind to say thank you for providing me
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that meal. So you're giving apositive vibe or energy to the animal that
was a live that created you tohave that meal. But in saying that,
you'll have to live the experience ofthe things you've had the impact on
the other lives. I had baconthis morning. Am I going to feel
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what that peak felt? Well?At the end of the day, I
do feel that there is a separationwell when it comes to our food source,
that animals that come into this worldknow that they're going to be part
of the food change, though Isee that as a different aspect. But
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I also feel that if you havemistreated an animal, or you've kicked a
cat, or you've run over acat deliberately or something, you're going to
be acknowledged because spirit world are acknowledgingyou actually had a negative intention to harm
that animal. So it was adeliberate thought to individually harm that animal.
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Does that make sense sense to mean? It makes me think that if you're
you just need you for sport,you might want to watch out. Well.
At the end of the day.Look, people have free will to
make their decisions. But I alwayssay, just to try to live the
best life that you can in themost harmonious way. And and and that
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is that is my belief. Iwant to go back to something you said
about the whole ying and young andthings has two sides to everything. And
you say there's definitely angels. Thatmeans it's definitely demons, right, demons
exist. Look, unfortunately, yes, but again it's I really like to
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remain on the positive side, thebeautiful side, the angelic heaven, the
realm of heaven. So I justreally like to focus on the really beautiful
and the light side of the afterlife. Yes, fortunately, there are those
energies. I hate saying the wordsso energies. No, I hate saying
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the idem Yeah. No, AndI'm afraid I'm all you know, fairies
and and and and and you know, glitter dust. So what about what
about haunted places? I look,absolutely absolutely there are spirits here that are
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very taught, traumatized. They couldbe you know, say, if someone's
been in the olden days tortured ina castle or a dungeon or something like
that, those people have had horrificpassings, you know. And and sometimes
those those souls that are in buildingsdon't actually realize that they've that they've passed.
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They're kind of like in a trapscenario. So you know, their
spirits still on this side of life. And and and there are there are
billings that have spirits that are inthem that cause absolutely havoc. You know,
they might move things, smash things, you know, So you know
that that side of the afterlife absolutelyexists. But if it's if it's something
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that I'm aware that's there, Ijust like to say a little prayer for
myself to just you know, forthe for God or the angels to help
release the person that that's in thissituation. But I don't really like to
engage in that side of things.It definitely does exist, It definitely is
there. There is definitely people thathave all that live in homes that have
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spirit presences of both positive and negative. I certainly wouldn't like to live in
a home that has a spirit thatis negative or to experience, you know,
negative things. I have had somereally upsetting negative experiences in my life
that I really don't like to talkabout because it just gives me a sense
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of a lot of uncomfortability. Itis also late at night, so I
will have to go to sleep soudso. But yeah, so they're they're
they're scared of ghosts because it's theexperience that that has that has happened to
me, you know, where I'veactually had physical things thrown at me from
from thin air, you know,so you know, and I was only
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young and it it did really,it did really shake me. And I've
always remembered that experience. So youknow, I don't go seeking seeking to
find spirit like some you know,paranormal investigators. If they wish to do
that, fantastic, let them goahead. But you know, they may
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well one day come across the wrongspirit and they may finish their paranormal investigations
depending on the experience that they happen. So, you know, I don't
like to you know, look atthat side of things. When you go
to say a graveyard, is therelots more spirits hanging around because that's where
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their bodies are. Look at theend of the day, look, we
are not our spirits, for themajority are not going to be in a
cemetery. They're not going to bein a cemetery. However, yes,
you're going to get the odd onehere or there that, you know,
an earth bound spirit that that hasn'tfully transitioned to the other side. We'll
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have some fun. We'll have somefun with some paranormal investigators. And it's
the kind of thing that I don'tcall fun. You know, I am
not going to be in a cemeterylate at night looking to you know,
I see it as that you're lookingto antagonize the spirit that may be there,
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or the spirit is looking to antagonizeyou and freak the hell out of
you. You know, you're goinginto their domain. It's like, you
know, there's some pretty famous castlesin the UK and they do particular ghost
tours. I'm going to say here, I don't really find that fun to
be walking around the castle in themiddle of the night going what, you
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know, what spirits or you knowthe loose word ghosts can we find?
You know, one day, thesepeople going on these tours are going to
get all the ghosts or the connectionsthey want. And you know, I'd
rather be sitting in a lobby ofhotel room having a drink than going on
a ghost tour. But yes,spirit do reside in buildings one peek at
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the other side. I'm one ofthose goofs that's walking around the castle in
the middle of the night. I'vedone like a jail tour and been looking
for things that happen and and andit's just that curiosity, perhaps morbid curiosity,
and perhaps I'm looking for some evidencethat something happens when I'm done here.
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Well, I thought I've spent alot of time in my life pondering
the more you focus on maybe wantingto have the experience, will maybe go
to more ghost hunts in jails andthings. Because I'm pretty sure the more
that you focus on maybe the intentand the experience that you're wanting to happen,
Well, you know, the universecan organize things for things to happen,
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for you to experience things. Soyou're you're putting out like I want
to experience this. I'm not sayingthat one hundred percent will happen for you,
but the likelihood of happening your percentagegoes up. Damn. I know.
Actually, yeah, so I thinkI'll just scrub that bit and I'll
be like, I want to experiencewinning lotto. Yeah, I would love
to experience that. And I'm sure. I'm sure half of the world or
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more than half, would love toexperience that, and you know what the
good that you could do with itas well. Yeah, and especially what
you say that you're can experience thingson the other side, perhaps fraternity of
the impact that you've had. Andit's interesting that you say that, because
it seems to me like that's whatall religions, whatever they are, all
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seem to boil down to that,just doing good things. And and however
they dangle the carrot in front ofyou to say that you should do good
things because you'll get to go toheaven, or you'll build up karma,
or you'll be come back as somethingbetter. That's it's just framing it differently
and just telling us at the endof the day, don't be a preak.
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Right, Let's see, we'll lookat the end of the day.
You know, I suppose saying bluntlylike that, you know, is one
way of saying it. But reallyjust just try to be the best version
of you and and do good byyourself and too good bye others strangers.
Yeah, so I want to askabout like I know that you're on a
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time crunch, but about the whenyou're doing readings some people, do you
need to be physically there with them? Have you done them? No?
On the phone. I've done somephone and done some with videos. So
the phone, you're you're basically usingthe person's voice vibration and they're they're people
that are trying to contact them fromthe other side of the dead. People
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know that you're on the phone tothem. Yeah, and then they'll just
say things to you when you cansay what they're saying. But sometimes it
will be just all psychic, andyou know, sometimes no mediumship will come
through, and sometimes it might beyour mediumship and it won't be any won't
be any psychic, and other timesI'll have both. Look, I'm just
so amazed by the stuff that youdo. And it must be so strange
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to live like that. I mean, I guess, I guess not because
you'd be used to it, butI mean, a spirits hanging around when
you're in the shower, you're naked, when you're with someone else while you're
having sex. Are these spirits hangingaround? Well, look at the watching
at the end of the day,spirit will respect privacy, so you know,
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you know, I'm sure that ifthey really wanted to, you know,
watch people in these situations. Well, anything's possible, but I would
say it's pretty pretty less likely thatyou know, your dear grandmother that has
passed would would want to talk toyou or or watch you during these particular
physical moments that we have in life, right, And there's always people that
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come through when you're doing medium stuff. Are pets up over there? Yeah,
pet pet pets can come through.Maybe I was a dog, if
it was a smaller dog or alarger dog. Maybe the dog might have
had a stomach problem. More soI can get information, but I would
have like my spirit guides or humanspirit relaying also what the dog had or
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what the cat had, or howthe animal passed. So yeah, I
can get messages for the owners oftheir dear animals that have passed. But
I'll be getting it like via visualwith the pet of seeing maybe there was
a leg problem or but I willalso be having human you know, people
spirit providing me the the internal language. I love it that someone's going to
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be booking a session with you andthey don't know if they're necessarily going to
be getting a peek into the future. Answers to questions they're going to be
speaking with a relative that's passed.It's kind of like whatever comes. I
mean, can people if someone's gota specific question, I guess you can
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help out absolutely, either from aclear point point of view or from guidance
from someone else's want of view.Right well, at the end of the
day, someone has a specific questionand and you know which you know,
I'm only getting back into this ina in a bigger way that because I've
had a lot of time off fromfrom doing things for various reasons, and
you know, I find this verymentally draining as well and sometimes too I
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mean I physically need to be inbetter shape as well. But at the
end of the day, here thatif someone has one or two questions,
I'm happy to answer a direct questionfor someone if they want to have a
short ten minute reading or maybe you'retwenty minute reading over the phone or video
only. But if someone wants moresit down, you know, I'm going,
you know, look into what Ican feel and hear and see for
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them or that would be more likea standard reading. So whether it's in
person or whether it's over the phone, so people can be specific about you
know, the type of reading theywant. Some psychics will also include cards,
so angel cards, tarrat cards,things like that. So you know,
some people have different tools. Ioccasionally love to use a pendulum,
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which gives you a yes and noanswer, or potentially, you know,
it might not actually answer the questionfor me or for the person. I
personally use my pendulum quite regularly,you know, to ask specific questions,
but I always say a positive prayerbefore I do it, because I want
to be connecting with positive you know. Yes, it comes across a little
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bit like a Wuiji board, right, which you don't want to be messing
with. Well, it's just acrystal that I have on the end of
a end of a chain, andI just use it to try to get
some yes or no questions to particularthings in life. And that's something that
people can use for themselves, butalways do it in a positive manner.
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And please, I really recommend peopleto stay away from, you know,
wigiboards. That is really not verypositive and you can really attract some pretty
negative energies by using those sorts ofthings. Luke, thank you so much
for taking this time to have achat with me about this stuff. I'm
going to have to I'm gonna haveto talk with you again because there is
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so much more that I did,I just haven't got to that. I'm
just fascinated by all this stuff.It does my head in and I am
searching for meaning and answers and whathappens next, and I I just want
to sneak peak and a preview andI'm going to keep searching for it until
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I'm satisfied with the answers that I'vegot. And I just really appreciate you
taking the time to share your pointof view with everything. And look,
I'm going to put all the linksto get in contact with you. They'll
be in the description of the episode. So please do get in contact with
Luke if you would love to havea reading with him, and he is
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worldwide. You know what, there'sgoing to be someone listening to this and
who's just thinking this bloke is goingto answer my question and if they get
if they feel that you've got someanswers that they're after, follow that intuition.
And if you feel that he doesn't, that's fine too. Just go
with your gut feeling, your intuition. We've all got it, you say,
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And that is just so interesting tome and man, I just I
just okay, No, I'm goingto stop because I'm I'm going to start
asking you a thousand more questions.Luke Patrick, thank you so much for
having a chat with me on mypodcast. You're most welcome and all the
best to everyone who's listened tonight.So that was my talk with Luke Patrick,
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who is a spiritual psychic medium,and it was difficult to let the
guy go because I had so manymore questions and I had so many other
things that I could have talked tohim about. I had a list and
unfortunately didn't get to the bottom ofthat list. Look, if you're interested
in what he's got to say,you can contact him through the links attached
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to this episode. I'll make abooking for yourself. Or if you think
that there's more that we could diginto with him as a guest on the
show, definitely contact the show viathe links below as well and let us
know that you want to year morefrom Luke Patrick. I'm going to be
putting out episodes once a week,so if he's a guest that you want
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to have recurring, I'm certainly happyto try and get him again. If
the stars aligned and allowed for that. I looked into the Milwaukee Rangers that
he mentioned on this episode. Nowwe recorded this on September nine, twenty
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twenty three, and I couldn't locatethe results of any Milwaukee Rangers. But
I did, however, find thatthere were some teams with that name.
There were in some minor or localleagues of baseball and possibly some other sports
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as well. I didn't look asfar into it so as I could have,
so I'm not sure if any wonon that time around that time September
nine, twenty twenty three. Ifyou've got some results for a Milwaukee Rangers,
definitely post it for me. Maybehe meant that you're meant to be
hearing it now as opposed to itwhen it was actually said and recorded.
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So I'm not one hundred percent surehow this stuff works. I'm not sure
if anyone really knows one hundred percent, but Luke Patrick is definitely an interesting
fellow, no matter what take youhave on him. Hey, look,
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