KCAA: Jeff Santos (Fri, 24 Oct, 2025)

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It is now worth two other Chef knos go and
welcome to it, folks, coming you live from the South
coast here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, we'll be speaking
with Boston Globe writer and columnist covering hockey for over
three decades plus, maybe like four, like five actually Kevin

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Paul DuPont woul joined as at about four thirty four,
but for the first time on the Jeff Santio Show
and hopefully not the last, and hopefully we'll be referring
to him not as a candidate for Congress, but as
a member of Congress from the seventh Congressional District in
the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. See, they are one of

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them too, dislike us here in Massachusetts, we welcome Mark Pinzi,
former controller and a great, great new voice for the
people of Pennsylvania, and he joins us via video today
from the Keystone State. It's so great to have you on,

(08:06):
my friend. We had a little chat the other day
a courtesy of friends of Progressive Democrats and Alan Minsky,
and here we are so great to have you on.
We played a little bit of host and interviewer last time,
so I will give you the opportunity to do that
if you might. But I think this is about you,
So talk to me about why you decided to run

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for Congress. It makes a lot of sense where you
are and what you've been doing. It's a good road map.
A comptroller is a very good position to understand, you know,
how to get things done, particularly you know, and the
budget concerns that Washington has, I think in a lot
of them these days. Talk to me about why you

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decided to make the run.

Speaker 19 (08:55):
Yeah, thank you, so thank you for having me on.
I really appreciate it. It's really nice to be here.
It's nice to see you too, in person.

Speaker 14 (09:04):
Exactly. So, I think like there's three main reasons.

Speaker 19 (09:10):
I mean, the country is in chaos, and I think
that there's three dangers that are our future risk. It's,
you know, we have an economy that's rigged for the wealthy.
We have a democracy, democracy that's sliding towards allthiretarianism. And
I actually believe we also have a national security crisis
as we alienate our allies and seem to befriend you know,

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our befriend dictators. So that I mean that was one
of the reasons, or the three main reasons, but I
also want to mention you know, before the Big Beautiful
Bill came out, I mean that was one of my
biggest concerns was Medicaid. You know, my brother, who is
learning disabled, is on Medicaid, and my sister and I

(09:52):
fill out the forms for him every year so that
he had so that he goes through his eligibility. He
could not do that by himself, you know, one of
us has to do it. And you know, with the
Big Beautiful Bill, now we have to do eligibility twice
a year. And he is an able bodied working person,

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and so.

Speaker 14 (10:15):
We have to fill We'll have to fill something out
every month now.

Speaker 19 (10:18):
And what I'm worried about are you know, so as controller,
I send out checks for about one hundred and three
million dollars for people that are like my brother, and
I don't know if they all have, you know, access
to a brother or sister or somebody who can help them.

Speaker 14 (10:34):
And so I'm very worried about these people falling off
the rolls.

Speaker 19 (10:37):
And that was one of the straws that broke the
camel's back, you know, like that, I really just I
just I'm very worried about that.

Speaker 12 (10:46):
Well, you know, and that's that I want to I
want to applaud you on that for a second, because
not only as a caregiver, and I'm one myself with
my mom, but I tell you it is important not
only to help your family, but to think about it
in that way in which you know the budgetary concerns

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of uh, you know, a county or a district, or
or a state, or or obviously on a national level,
because you got to you gotta have the human element
to it. And this is the thing that disturbs me
so much about the current occupant of the White House.
It cares less about any other human He has, uh,

(11:27):
you know, a racist mentality toward people of color, particularly
African Americans, particularly Tino's and you know, he there's no
empathy gene. It's been lost. Maybe it never was there,
but it to me is so important to have people

(11:49):
running for offices you are who have that, because that's
in the end, you know, that's what you're doing it for. Yeah,
you can make a decent living, and you know, a
member of Congress, you can make all the contacts and
all that. It's scwalling good. But if you're really not
helping people, we just spoke to a former member of
Congress and Alan Grayson before you came on. And you know,

(12:10):
there are a lot of people you know that you know,
take the money and run and so to me, it's
really great that you understand, you know, the role and
what you're running for. You mentioned a foreign policy and
you know, we lived the day we had on Brian Garvey,
who's the Massachusetts deputy director for Massachusetts Peace Action and

(12:35):
Larry Korb who's a former Deputy Defense Secretary under Reagan
and now the Center of American Progress as a senior
fellow there. And the thing that you know in their
world and I mentioned this to Larry of course, was
around the table with you know, the Reagan folks, not
my favorite folks, but Casper Weinbergers of the world and

(12:55):
al Hagues and all that. Right, But you know, how
do you how do you serve the country? You know,
if you're a Republican, if you're in the cabinet, when
you have somebody who disregards the role of government, so
Democrats have to fight back and push back the government works.
And I want to get your thoughts on that, because

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whether it's foreign policy or domestic policy, are making sure
that in a municipality that the trash gets taken out,
or as Alan Grayson was pointing out, the snow here
in New England or the Midwest, or the hurricanes after
in Florida in Pennsylvania's whether it's you know, maybe a
little worse than it is here in New England. So

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you know, these are all vital things, and you know,
to have somebody who understands that, and to work with
people in the county, to work with the municipality, to
work with the state, to work with the federal government.
These are all important things, particularly now that the federal
government has start to drop the ball on everything.

Speaker 14 (13:56):
Your thoughts, Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 19 (13:59):
I mean I think when you think about the federal
government today, the best way of thinking about it is,
you know, how is Trump going to make money today?

Speaker 14 (14:06):
Yea, right, so snific Gaza, right, he's looking at a
new riviera. He wants to book. I'm sure he wants
to put a Trump power right in the middle.

Speaker 19 (14:15):
And it seems like, you know, the Republicans are all
on board for this, you know, so long as they
can maintain power. And you could see that in the
fact that they're they're trying to redistrict you know, Texas
and other states like they're not.

Speaker 14 (14:29):
They know that they're.

Speaker 19 (14:30):
Polling poorly, and rather than trying to fix the polling,
meaning do something better for the American people, they're like.

Speaker 14 (14:38):
No, we'll go rig the election, right exactly. So yeah,
I just think that we're you know, it's funny because.

Speaker 12 (14:46):
Reality and truth.

Speaker 14 (14:49):
Yeah, absolutely, you know.

Speaker 19 (14:50):
And and the funny thing is is, look the Republicans,
not at the not at the high level, right, just
the average joe, you know, they're still suffering like the
rest of us, right, you know, you know, corporate profits
go up, but paychecks don't. You know, the food prices
are obviously climbing because only a few corporations control you know,

(15:12):
the food. Right, So if you if you're buying poultry,
I think there's only four manufacturers or of poultry. And
you know, when housing costs sore, you know, then the
wealthy can buy homes in bulk. And as you know,
quite honestly, as a homeowner, it feels good to have
your price go you know, the price of your house
go up. But the but it's there's a catch, which

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is the price keeps rising and my kids and your
kids will never be able to afford a house, so
they will never be able to have the American dream
if we don't start taxing the wealthy quite honestly and
in changing the direction of this country.

Speaker 12 (15:50):
It's so true. Again, we're talking with a candidate for
the seven Congressional district in Pennsylvania. Uh and Mark Pinsley,
who again had a great opportunity to be on the
same forum with Alan Minsky's Progressive Democrats of America and
is a wonderful brother and so forth, get together with

(16:12):
our staff and we made this happen and we look
forward to doing it again too. Talk to me a
little bit about your concern of basically getting through these
next you know, two years, I should say twelve months,
I guess, or fourteen months, whatever it is between now
and November. And the reason I mentioned that is that

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we've been using a prop. You may be aware of
the fact that Duncan Donuts was founded here in Massachusetts
now goes by Duncan. And I used the prop because
about three weeks ago I went to the local s
and as we won't give them any publicity, grocery store
well known in Massachusetts, and it cost me seven dollars

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and ninety nine cents for this pound of coffee. Well,
well it's now fourteen dollars and it was a week
later that went up. I have a feeling that you know,
this is probably only the beginning of it. By the
end of you know, twenty dollars. If you can't afford
to have coffee as a major staple in every American
kitchen in the morning, then you know, what a what

(17:18):
are we I mean, we're we're rapidly declined to a
third world nation. You know, when they'll be talking about
you know, Guatemala and we'll be talking about Gaza and
we're talking about the United States. I mean, that's where
we're going unless wee can put a halt to this.
And you know, this is really sad. And the people
of Pennsylvania through things like NAFTA and you know, and

(17:40):
other trade deals as well as you know, concerns over
you know, right wing members of the state legislature, you know,
and judges and all that kind of stuff. So talk
to me about the people that you come across when
you start camp, when you're campaigning, about what are on
their issues. I would presume, you know, if the coffee

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is here at fourteen dollars. It's probably more expensive in
Pennsylvania because it comes from brazila course to coffee, but
the headquarters, I believe, is still here in Massachusetts for Duncan.
So I mean, you know, and there are probably other
companies doing the same thing.

Speaker 11 (18:17):
Yeah, I mean, so.

Speaker 19 (18:18):
Look, you know, everyone is talking about affordability. There's no
doubt about that, you know. So whether it's childcare or
coffee or poultry, you know, or or you know, pretty
much anything that you would buy in the grocery store today,
that is a necessity. And here's the problem, right, Like,
it's very hard for prices to go back down, you know,

(18:41):
right like, so like if you look at countries where
you have deflation rather than inflation, the economy really slows
down quite a bit because everybody waits right for the
price to continue to go down, right, and so then
you become an aspiral. And so so it's going to
be difficult to lower prices. But what I really want
to make sure people understand really is, so why is

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it happening?

Speaker 11 (19:03):
You know?

Speaker 14 (19:04):
Is it just Trump?

Speaker 11 (19:06):
No?

Speaker 19 (19:07):
I mean I think part of it is that Trump
is helping, right, So he just took what one point
two trillion dollars away from medicare users and gave it
to the rich, as if the rich needed and so
like if we think about it, so I like to
talk about the economy kind of like monopoly. So we've
all played monopoly, I think. And if you remember monopoly,

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there's only so much money on the monopoly table, and
your goal is to win all of it, right, right,
And if you think about our economy in the same way, well,
we only have twenty two trillion dollars of dollars on
the board.

Speaker 14 (19:47):
That's it.

Speaker 19 (19:48):
And so if you know, I read an article a
couple of years ago where Jeff Bezos had basically made
you know, six billion dollars on his money, right, so
money on his money, it's almost like interest.

Speaker 14 (20:00):
No, pretty good. So but where does that six billion
dollars come from?

Speaker 11 (20:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (20:05):
Right, it has to come from the other players on
the board. And and so that's the problem, which is,
as they get richer, you know, their interest basically accumulates
as well, right, compounding interests.

Speaker 14 (20:19):
You kind of think of it that way. So eventually
we have no money left.

Speaker 19 (20:24):
And if you look at one of the major problems
that I believe we have are monopolies, or really oligopoly
is probably a better term.

Speaker 14 (20:32):
Monopoly.

Speaker 19 (20:32):
I think everyone understands, which is just like I said earlier,
there's only four producers of chicken. So what's going to happen,
you know if when when they're their prices go up,
what's the what's how are we gonna get those prices
back down if there isn't more competition.

Speaker 12 (20:48):
Well, let's let's look at this situation. Uh again, we're
speaking with Mark Pinsley, candidate for the seven congressional district
UH in the Keystone state of Pennsylvania. I believe that
the Bethlehem Allentown area, is that correct?

Speaker 17 (21:05):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (21:07):
Yeah, right, well Billy Joel saying about it. So there
you go, people can connect those dots. One of the
things that you know, folks in Allentown and and and
Bethlehem and so forth understand is that if you have
people working against you because they want to make more

(21:30):
money themselves, they could care less about the community. They
care less if if you know, uh, the the kids
are are are deprived of first class education. You know,
the other day, we had our good friend Melissa Tomlinson
on who's the head of Badass teachers. Uh in, Well,
she lives in New Jerseys. It's national that she's the

(21:52):
head of as executive director. And we were talking about
all the cuts that you know, that have come and
doesn't get the same national recognition that the federal workers
do are or some of the other positions that have
been cut, and obviously Medicare and medicaid with the shutdown

(22:13):
and all that. But you know, it's the small things
that happen when you don't fund public schools. So what
Melissa is saying, and she teaches the seventh eighth grade
in South Jersey, is the fact that when you want
to do something to help your students special needs, whatever

(22:33):
the case may be, the money's not there. It's like,
you know, oh, we've got all them. The money in
the state is just trying to keep us afloat because
the federal government is out to lunch, you know, for
the next couple of years anyways. So it's that kind
of things that people that the real life situation for somebody.
And again, the more that members of Congress can communicate

(22:57):
that message, the better off the Democrat Right party will be,
the better off that our society will be. Because right
now it's like, you know, you're on your own. If
you make it great, don't get in my way, you know,
because I'll run you over. I'm Donald Trump. And if
you don't make it well, you know, too bad. That's
sort of where things are, you know, in the in

(23:19):
the atmosphere of our culture right now.

Speaker 19 (23:23):
Yeah, we like to talk about meritocracy right where it's
up to you to get ahead. But what we don't
talk about is like we're not all starting at the
same starting exactly. The race never gets reset, right, So
if I'm doing well, my kid will do well.

Speaker 14 (23:40):
You know, we're likely to do well. If I'm not
doing well, it's gonna be very hard for my child
to do well. Uh, and that and what ends up happening.

Speaker 19 (23:49):
And I really think this is creating, Like I don't
think we tie this enough to mental health, and especially
for you know, young men and young women you know,
who are told, you know, if you work hard and
you put in the hours, you know, you're gonna be
able to have a home and you're gonna have kids
and you're gonna have a house. And then when they're
not able to do that, right, they feel like it's

(24:10):
their fault, but it's not their fault, right, it's the
system's fault. And I think we're creating a massive mental
health problem by not addressing this and at least telling
people the truth about what's going on.

Speaker 14 (24:22):
Yeah, it's not your.

Speaker 12 (24:23):
Fault, well exactly. And you know, thankfully, over the last
I don't know, maybe ten fifteen years or so, we've
been able to look at mental health and not ostracize
somebody and say you go to the corner, you know,
and it's it's so important to understand that. And again

(24:43):
I go back to communication, you know, in all walks
of life, and you know, I mean, I'm a professional communicator,
but I know in my personal life you sometimes have
to take a step back. And you know, and if
you have the person who is the father or the country,
you know, who basically would rather just give you the
middle finger, you know, if you don't agree with him,

(25:06):
you know what what does that say to the rest
of society? What does that say to a fifteen year
old who may be confused of whether or not he
is a she or she is a he? You know
what kind of guidance is that. You know, It's like,
you know, don't talk to me, you know, go to
the regular bathroom, you know, I mean it's just nonsense.
And I think that's why again, you know, the candidates

(25:29):
that are running, and I applaud you for doing so,
because we need fresh blood. It just doesn't want to
go there, you know, to go there to get along
play you know, play by the rules, all this other
nonsense ex cliches, and I think it's important to have,
you know, a fresh perspective. We don't open up the

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phone lines momentarily at eight three three five four five
five three three three. If you have a question for market,
you know you'd love to talk to you about it.
Give me an example of what committees you would like
to serve on if you have the opportunity to be
a member of Congress in the from the seventh Congressional district.

(26:14):
I know you mentioned foreign policy. Maybe that's you know,
the Armed Services or foreign relations. Give me an idea,
just people to kind of fill in who you are.

Speaker 14 (26:24):
Yeah, Oversight number one.

Speaker 12 (26:27):
Yeah, okay, that's a good one, an important one.

Speaker 19 (26:31):
Yeah, that's my number one committee. And then like you said,
I mean I'd like to be on the VA you know,
and foreign policy and also healthcare, you know, or something
around healthcare.

Speaker 14 (26:44):
Like what a thing.

Speaker 19 (26:45):
I did an audit as controller, and I found that
we spend for our employees about seven million dollars just
on pharmacy as an example. And when we did the audit,
you know, I found there was a middleman and they're
called a PBM, a pharmacy benefit manager, and that PBM
was taking quite a cut of everything bad.

Speaker 14 (27:07):
And what yeah, you know, what I found was we
were able to.

Speaker 19 (27:11):
Save three million dollars simply by changing vendors, so we
didn't have to change pharmacies, we didn't have to change medications,
just changing vendors. And right now in Congress does have
like this transparent specifically for hospitals now, but the fine

(27:32):
is like only I think two million dollars, which sounds
like a lot of money, but it's not too many
of these hospitals or many of these pharmacy benefit managers.
So if you're not providing the transparency that's needed, your
maximum fine is two million, which is probably toilet paper
for these guys, like we need to like, we can't
just have the oversight. We need to make sure that

(27:54):
we're charging them so they feel it and they're not
going to do it any longer.

Speaker 12 (28:01):
We're running out ye as a.

Speaker 19 (28:03):
Roller man, I love digging into the money and seeing
where things are going like that.

Speaker 14 (28:08):
That was just one example the healthcare side.

Speaker 19 (28:11):
We really need to look at where we're spending our
money and can we reallocate that money better?

Speaker 14 (28:17):
And by the way, I think we need more money
right like there's no doubt.

Speaker 12 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean we have to. Yeah, and again the
one percent have to pay it, the billionaires have to
pay it, and I think that is an incredibly important point. Look,
we're running out of window here just about forty seconds.
People want to reach you, they want to donate to you.
How did they get a hold of you?

Speaker 19 (28:40):
Yeah, it's vote Mark Pinsley dot com. If you come
to my website, it certainly leads to act blue. I
would I would welcome donations, but we also welcome you know,
other help as well. You know, there's always research that's needed,
phone calls that are needed, any any help that you
can provide, I would be happy.

Speaker 12 (28:58):
For and give me that website addressed one more time.

Speaker 19 (29:01):
Yep, it's vote Mark Pinsley dot com. All one word
you goo Markpinsley dot com.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
Uh Mark, real pleasure to have you on all the
best in your in your race. We'll be rooting for you.
And you know, I don't know whether you're an Eagles
or a Steelers fan, but would like them both here
at least I do so.

Speaker 14 (29:23):
If you're on the Philadelphia side, it's the law. I
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All the best, my friend, Thank you, and look forward
to chatting again. Mark Pinsley here on the Jeff Santado
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This is the Jeff Sato Show, thirty three minutes past

(33:48):
the hour. It is the Jeff Santo Show that you
are tuned into. You know, we like to talk sports
here on this show. And I started out as a
sports reporter and Boston local radio and and you know,
had a chance to meet our next guest many years ago.

(34:09):
How old we both are. Kevin Paul DuPont was working
for the Boston Globe then he's working there now. And
after a stint at the New York Times, the great journalist.
Let me just make that clear first, because we're going
to get into a lot of other subjects besides great
sport of NHL hockey. But he is just that and

(34:32):
been a lot of articles written by his cohort Dan Shaughnessy,
have also had on the program. Well it's been a while, Dan,
you can come back on if you want about how
they started back in nineteen seventy five in the nineteen
seventy five World series between the Red Sox and the
Cincinnatio Reads, the famous Carlton fisscom run and so forth,

(34:55):
and though both cub reporters back then, but Kevin is
still looking sharp and demonair as possible, and is the
photograph that we use for Kevin when he does the
radio interviews and he joins us from his home here
in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Kevin, great to have you back.
And you know Dan has been writing about this in

(35:16):
his columns. You know, when you guys were kids. You know,
it's pretty amazing though, to come out, because I also
worked at the Globe back in early eighties, and so
I didn't understand what it's like all of a sudden
you be thrust into you know, that rain delay of
the nineteen seventy fives. Give us a little on that

(35:37):
before we start to talk about sticks and pucks.

Speaker 11 (35:42):
Wow, that is well, first of all, great to be
with you, Jeff. And that was so long ago. So yeah,
as I recall that night, and I think Dan remembers
it about the same it was, And I assume they
still have these these big banquets before the series begins,
and you know, to be twenty two years old, just

(36:05):
out of college. We were both looking for meals to
be frank.

Speaker 9 (36:10):
Uh, there.

Speaker 12 (36:14):
Is a college kid, you know. I get my I
get two dollars to put in the tip jar and
that was about all. And I could I could, you know,
put down a lot of food, right, and you know,
go ahead, I hear you.

Speaker 11 (36:29):
No. And so that summer, as I recall, this would
have been summer of seventy five, we were both doing
some string. We had a we had a great boss
at the AP Dave O'Hara, who's really a legendary figure
here in Boston now passed away. Yeah, and he had
hired us well, frankly, he put us in as keeping

(36:52):
the box score, which we never did. Dave did the
box score. He could do that with one hand and
keep his eye on the game with another. But we
we were basically Dave O'Hara's legs after games and went
down and got quotes. That was our role for the
princely sum of seven dollars and fifty cents a night.
And also the free food at the time, free food

(37:14):
in the press room. So that's there you go. That
was heaven for us. But anyway, it was as I
say to kids constantly, now, after I tell them I
don't know why they'd want to get in the business,
then I do tell them that the you know, among
the keys is just getting your foot in the door
and meeting people. And that's where it was great for
both me and Dan. And then also along the way

(37:37):
Leslie Visser, who was one of our constant running mates
at the time as well, not on the Red Sox,
but Leslie was hired full time at the Globe before
me and Dan and and was off doing mostly Patriots.
But anyway, that's Dan and I were at the Free
Eats prior to the World Series. We both don't know

(38:01):
why to this day. You know, Peter Gammon's had the
brand and had the beat and had everything else why
he wasn't doing the notebook that night. I can't tell you.
My guess is he got he got, you know, sidetracked
onto some other endeavor, probably radio or television, even though
there wasn't that much of it at the time, and that,

(38:24):
you know, the globe needed at constant filling of space.
Dan and I were eager to do it. And that's
that's the that's the background of why we both ended
up with our names, and we end needless to say,
as you might imagine, Jeff, we were thrilled.

Speaker 12 (38:38):
Yeah, I would guess so. And I remember, you know,
the days of just being in the globe and running
down to the to the garden our Fenway Park to
get some stuff too, you know, a few years after
you did it in the mid seventies. But to be
there at the World Series and all that came down,
the famous fist home run and so forth must have
been fantastic. Okay, so we go that excitement and uh,

(39:02):
you know, historic Game six one of the best, if
not the best game ever. I think the MLB said
it was the best game ever in their in their
you know MLB network collection of different games to the
six in a row, the Bruins are losing. You know,
I told you in a pre interview that Mason Lowry,

(39:26):
you know, a lot of potential, but frankly, I just
don't see him as a defensive defenseman. I don't know.
I mean, i'n't even talked about it in my lame
brain ideas of maybe making them a winger, which I
think at some point he might have played wing in college.
I don't know if he if it's just a physical part,
and I believe I'm totally put on some weight, but

(39:47):
I mean the other night against the Panthers, I mean,
it's like, you know, it's like a just flying right
by him. You know, he couldn't even put some part
of his body into him. What what are is Marco
Sturms kind of of looking at and when he looks
at the sixth defenseman, of course, Hampus Linholm is hurt.
Harris got hurt, so they brought up Callahan. I know
you're a big fan of I am too, but that,

(40:09):
to me, it just stands out. And that was an
awful gut punch when that goal went in, because the
Bruins were dominating the third period against Florida. So what
is it is that this thinking, well, he's going to develop,
so we're going to make mistakes. We're not going to
win the Cup anyways. But to me this is it's
a black hole. When he's on the ice defensively.

Speaker 11 (40:31):
Well, I think they're enamored his pluses are, or what
they're they're enamored by. I think are his skating ability
and a shooting ability, and those are undeniable. He's the
very nice skater. He can hit the puck. He's eager
to shoot, which Charlie McAvoy isn't young macavoy in that sense,
but he doesn't. He is not grasping the defensive part

(40:54):
of the game, and it's when things were forward not
to grasp it. The definition of the job of Worse,
as you well know, is to play defense and then
you know, pile on whatever else you can beyond that.
So I don't you know, I think part of it
is the system. And after more than fifty years of
covering the sport, I'll confess I you know, at that

(41:18):
level of the game, I'm not your man on that.
I know the basic difference between zone defense and man
on man defense. But how a kid or a veteran
is supposed to process that. I'm out of my league there,
so I'll admit that upfront, but that that appears to
be the problem, at least that's the stated problem, is

(41:40):
that there the defense core is not grasping the system,
and the crux of that being sort of a hybrid
between man and man in zel. Now, how do you
fix that? You fix it over time. I have to
believe loris bright enough process it eventually. But right now,

(42:04):
as you pointed out from the get go, here, they've
lost six straight in regulation. There's only twice in their history,
the Bruins one hundred year history that they've they've lost
more than seven in a row in regulation. I think
they lost eight in the fifties, and then the first
year as a franchise they lost, they lost a ton
of twelve or fifteen games in a row in regulation,

(42:26):
which is all they had back then. So it's it's
not looking good. It's also jeff uh, there's there's a
bit of a there's a bit of a Dave Lewis
vibe here. If you remember Dave Lewis.

Speaker 12 (42:39):
Came in Oh yes, oh no, oh yes no, no,
it's the same time.

Speaker 11 (42:43):
Ye yeah, yeah, they got caught all the time with
too many men on the ice. And and Peter Shirelli
was the new general manager who hired him, and he
kept him for the year and then he fired it.
He fired him at the end of the year and
brought in Claude Julian, which was which was the right move.
And when I say the vibe, the vibe, the similar

(43:03):
vibe here is Sterm keeps saying these guys have to process,
these guys have to get it. Yeah, that's right, they
have to get it. But as the coach, you have
to make sure they get it. So today they had
a very protracted session in video. They were late to practice,
late on the ice for practice. It was a long

(43:26):
VID sision VID session a long time. So I think
my guess is management observed what I did, which is
all well and good to say it's on them, but
it's on you too. You got to make sure this
gets across.

Speaker 12 (43:42):
You can't communicate the message. I think I've talked about
that in the world of politics for a long time.
It happens to be the same thing for a hockey coach,
or any coach for that matter. There very long yeah, right, right, And.

Speaker 11 (43:56):
And what makes this worse. Of course, it's a new
coach to go back at those. As I've underscored, there
have only been two worst stretches in their history. I
know the one in the fifties was in the mid season.
So my guess is this could be their worst start
in that sense. In terms of regulation losses, this might

(44:20):
be their worst start dating back to the very first
year of you know, in the twenties. So I don't know.
If this did roll out to eight ten losses in
regulation and they looked this bad, you know, something would
have to give. And these ways, something that gives is

(44:43):
typically coaching because the rosters with the high end players
are always loaded with no trade contracts. So last night
Marco Stern was saying, there's not really much we can
do here. He's right in that sense because to bring
players up off and often entails having the wave wave

(45:04):
players risk losing them. Of Course, the underlying chuckle there
is whoever you'd wave right now? Would anybody want them? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (45:16):
Well that's the thing. I mean, you can think about
lifestyle and portrait of His name is Potress, however they
pronounced the name this year. But you know, my my
feeling is that, you know, unless they can get something
you know, magic to happen from Providence, it's going to
be a pretty lackluster campaign. Hey, I'm going to make
a pivot here that I think you are perfect to

(45:39):
make the pivot with. Last week we had on our
good friend Doug McLean of the NHL, of course coach
of the Panthers in ninety six when you know when
the Eastern Conference, and you know recently Sportsnet and after
that the Columbus Blue Jackets and both GM and coach.

(46:00):
As you may know, he grew up in Prince Edward
Island and also lives in the Winners in South Florida,
well not very far from the current occupant of the
White House. Half the White House is the tearing apart
the East wing, and you know, he told me exactly.

(46:24):
We'll get into that in a second, but I wanted
to connect the Dodts because, as obviously you know, our
our feelers' leader decided to kick the Canadians out of
the tariff trade talks. And you can't see it, but
I have my dunkin Donuts pound of coffee here and
at the local SNS, which you know, and what I'm
talking about the grocery store and don't want to give

(46:45):
him any credit. They're not a paid advertiser. It was
seven dollars three weeks ago and it's now fourteen dollars
for a pound of coffee from Duncan Donuts. Yeah, so
you know, this is Trump tariff situation is pretty severe,
to the point where our friend and Doug McLean said,
you know, he's in a dilemma and a half. He's

(47:06):
got a daughter who lives in in in Ohio, a
son who lives in Chicago, and uh and he goes
back and he you know, he looks at this and like,
what the heck's going on here? I know, do I
really want to stay here?

Speaker 11 (47:20):
You know?

Speaker 12 (47:20):
I mean it's that kind of frustration as somebody who's
a native Canadian but you know, has always in a
lot of time in the United States. Obviously you know it.

Speaker 11 (47:32):
This is what it is.

Speaker 12 (47:33):
And I'm just wondering how many stories that you're hearing,
particularly if when you go up to Canada and and
and you know the Buffalo area too, which of course
right on the border of Canada. Because to me, this
is real life, you know, and and and and with
this fascist you know, it affects people's lives and right
into your you know, your daily world of hockey and mine,

(47:55):
you know, and in both political and talk radio. But
I brought on McLean to talk about hockey. I wanted
to ask him the question about this, and he's the
one that let me out because it's insane. These are
people who you know, play by the rules, do the
right thing, and they got this. This b asked to
get a deal with your thoughts.

Speaker 14 (48:13):
Kevin.

Speaker 11 (48:17):
Well, there's a lot to unpack there.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
Time too.

Speaker 11 (48:24):
Yeah, and I mean going back to what I hear
in Canada, I mean back to the first Trump administration.
I was constantly apologizing to Canadian friends, you know, for
for stuff I can't apologize for, you know, or trying
to explain I couldn't apa I can't. I couldn't explain it.
Then I can't explain it now, what you know, I

(48:44):
always try to look at the the underneath of it,
and the underneath of it is. You can call the
tariff thing what you want, but what the tariff thing is,
in my mind, more than anything, lack of a better term,
is sort of a value added tax. Right virtually everything
we touch, food products, consumer products, cars, furniture. It's all

(49:08):
going up and up and up. And if it had
been presented to me anyway, because I see what the
gross debt is on the national debt thirty it might
be forty trillion by now. I don't know an exact number.
But if you instituted this with this with the thought

(49:30):
that you know something, we can bite the bullet here
for three to five years, you're gonna pay the middle class.
That's all of us, middle class and everybody else is
going to pay a whole lot more for goods over
three to five years, because that's what's happening. And after
the three to five years, guess what, we'll have that
national debt erased. I have to tell you if it

(49:51):
had been if it had been positive like that, I'd
buy in. I don't like it. I don't like paying
ridiculous food. I don't like going a fast food lunch
and shelling out twenty two bucks for a couple of burritos.
I mean, I get it. It hurts, and I'm changing
my habits. But if you had someone who actually told

(50:13):
you the truth, put that money of the side, paid
down the debt, and it went away, I think as
a country fiscally, we'd be far, far, far better off.

Speaker 12 (50:24):
Yeah, but you know who's putting it putting it away,
he's putting in his pocket. Is Donald J. Trump?

Speaker 11 (50:29):
Well, yeah, I don't know where the where the hell
it's going, but that way, Yeah, it wasn't positive that way.
And I have a feeling that in the I could
tell you the exact number of days because I keep them.
After the you know, the four year term comes to

(50:50):
an end, the debt will be, it won't be erased,
it won't probably, if anything, it will have gone up,
and we'll all be left saying, well, where did all
this do? Go?

Speaker 15 (51:01):
Right?

Speaker 11 (51:03):
And then at the moment, the government's not open, so
the people aren't getting paid, you know that if it
But meanwhile the tariffs are coming in that should be
appropriated to the debt, I guess, but I know it
won't be. It won't be. So, you know, there's there's
so much here to unpack and one side, either side

(51:25):
trust the other side.

Speaker 15 (51:27):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (51:29):
And the most objectionable part of me of all of
this is the cruelty of it all for certain sectors
of the population. And not just the cruelty, but how
how it seems the administration enjoys the cruelty and the lying.

(51:49):
To listen to Caroline Levitt, to listen to listen to Bondi,
the Lie and and Marco gub Rubio. You know, they
really do think we're that stupid, they do, and that
it really it's insulting.

Speaker 12 (52:06):
It's it's pathetic, and it's just unfortunate that so many
people are getting hurt. Mentioned the federal workers earlier, you
talk about, you know what it's like to be a Latino,
you know, being picked up off the street, being an
American citizen. These cases that have happened in Los Angeles recently,
you know, and it's it's just devastating to so many

(52:29):
families and so forth, and you know, and they don't care.
You know, there's not a lot of empathy. And the
man with the orange hair and the orange should be
in an orange jumpsuit. I want to take you in
another big story that again connects the dots. As Cash Betel,
his FBI director, was there yesterday on this issue of

(52:49):
the NBA scandal, and you know how it's linked to
organized crime and all the sopranos and history of mafia,
the gener Vc family and the Gambino family, and I'm like,
oh my god. So you know and this, you know,
this has a political twist, you know, because of the

(53:10):
whole Epstein stuff that you know, they're trying to prevent
they've been a member of Congress from being the two
hundred eighteen Grajalva in Arizona. But this is an issue
that you and I have talked about, you know, gambling
in sports, that is a major issue. I don't know
if you've had a chance to talk to anybody in
the NHL, the league office, or friend Marty Walsh at

(53:32):
the NHLPA, but to me, you know, this is this
is some serious stuff. Again, I don't know what kind
of evidence they have. I mean, it seems you know
a lot more on Rosier than maybe Billups and others.
But you know, it's also early in the beginning. But
I think that the four leagues, I don't know what

(53:54):
soccer does, but is really put themselves behind the eight
ball here and you know, Routiny it's going to be
big time, you know. I know the local sports radio
devoted a bunch of hours of this today here in Boston.
So your thoughts on that part.

Speaker 11 (54:16):
Well, I found interesting that on Wednesday, the NHL was
all excited and puffing his chest over signing its being
the first of the four leagues to sign into these
predictive platforms, which is another form of betting, and frankly,
it can be more pervasive because it can go across

(54:36):
the fifty states and doesn't tie in twenty one, doesn't
put limits on age other than eighteen year olds, whereas
many many, if not most, states demand that you deal
at did you have to be twenty one years old
to bet?

Speaker 19 (54:51):
So?

Speaker 11 (54:52):
Leay, let's face the Supreme Court, as you well know,
Jeff decided in twenty eighteen to that it's reached. President
relaxed it, relaxed it's its position, and allowed the allowed
the states to pick their own. Now, it could be

(55:12):
that much of this gets erased in November because there's
a federal court case ongoing in Nevada that basically, in
terms of the these performative platforms that we talk predictive
and performative platforms that we talked about, the NHL being
the first assigned, I could render that thing moot because
you could just get shot down. But my suspicion is

(55:34):
if the federal court in Nevada shoots it down, it'll
end up with the Supreme Court, and they've already given
it the indication from the from from the eighteen decision
that anything goes it. It's turned into the Wild West.
And I have to say, Jeff, are you at the
least bit surprised?

Speaker 12 (55:52):
No, No, I'm not. I mean, you know, when greed
comes into it and the four leagues, you know, want
to make money, and they'll make money and they'll walk
for you to do it. Uh So, you know, I mean,
you know, the NHL probably was more family friendly than
the four the other three other teams, but may may
be trying to catch up right now. But it's it's

(56:14):
really a sad day. And I think it's because of
the good people of Canada, which.

Speaker 11 (56:18):
Well, let's not forget the NFL, the NHL, and they
were probably emboldened by this slightly. The NHL was the
first team, first league to put a team in Las Vegas,
and it's been me but a baffo success. That's so
they're they're out there and and but anyway, all these
leagues will will basically come in and grab the dough

(56:39):
and they'll suffer that, they will suffer the insults and
embarrassments that the NBA suffered yesterday. And it'll be but
as you're well aware, Jeff, this thing in a matter
of weeks to months, and I will predict ahead of
the holiday season it'll be put to rest. They'll they'll
they'll tidy it up somehow. One or two guys will

(57:00):
do the you know, we'll do the frog walk down
and end up in jail or paying huge fines, and
that'll be it. Then the band will roll on and
the three other sports will follow the NHL lead on
on the current thing, on on the Wednesday decision. And
it's there's just so much money involves, and the leagues

(57:22):
are monopolies, not like somebody can's going to start up
a league clean and go up against this. That's never
going to happen, right, It's just it's not it's it's
and what what I find, Because I I'm a believer
better on anything you want. I'm not. I'm not in

(57:44):
in a puritanical mode here against betting or against people
who bet. You want to bet, it's legal, go ahead
and do it. From a journalism standpoint, And I feel
the same way about analytics, which is almost benign by comparison,
but there's so much talking analytics and now so much
talk of betting that it's it's hijacked the narratives these

(58:06):
sports and where I got in a thousand years ago. Granted,
you know, I was writing stories about people and the
human condition and and the and the entertainment of the sports.
And now it's it's about analytics and it's about gambling,
and you know, both of them. Again, I'm not against them,

(58:27):
but they bore me when you were talking analytics. By
and large, when league, when leagues are pushing analytics stories,
it's because they're not making the people available. They're not
making players available, managers, coaches, all of it, all of
that is being distanced and increasingly distanced from availability to

(58:47):
the media telling the stories. Uh. And part of it
is is they can they can have analytics put people
to sleep, in my opinion, and they can just keep
grabbing the money having the money.

Speaker 12 (59:03):
And yeah, it's a sad I don't know why.

Speaker 11 (59:07):
It is. I don't know why anybody young with the
hope to you know, spend thirty forty fifty years in
a career would want to gravitate it to it now
because they've sucked the fun out of it. Yeah, and
they've sucked the connection out of it. People watch. People
watch these sports because they feel connected. They feel connection

(59:30):
to athletes and the sports themselves.

Speaker 12 (59:35):
No doubt. Kevin Paul DuPont. Fantastic journalists, as you just
heard in this segment. Covers a lot. He can watch
his read his columns on Sunday in the Boston Globe.
Check them out online. Kevin Paul DuPont, Thank you, sir.
Always great catching up. We'll look forward to this next time,
Thank you, sir.

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Stocks are up sharply on Wall Street as investors react
to cooler than expected inflation data. The Dow Joones Industrial
Average has been up over five hundred points at times today.
The S and P five hundred has also been higher,
while the Nasdaq has been up about three hundred points
as well. New York ag Letitia James says President Trump
is using the justice system as a tool of revenge.

(01:00:36):
She spoke to a group of supporters after pleading not
guilty to federal mortgage fraud charges in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Today.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
She said the charges have angered her soul, and she
promised to do her job every day while fighting them.
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welcome to it, folks. Well, we said we had some
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Speaker 12 (01:06:54):
Well we do, and it's exciting news as well, and
we have a great team working on it for the
in Francis and a great team at KCAA. And the
breaking news is going to be brought to you from
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fifty AM one oh six point five FM, and it's
my pleasure to toss it over to the great GM there,
Mark Westwood, to make the announcement, all right, the hours
that we're going to be on in southern California on
the great.

Speaker 23 (01:07:36):
K c AA.

Speaker 12 (01:07:37):
Well, it's a pleasure to have Wood. Welcome to the
Jeff Santo Show and we're very excited to hear.

Speaker 24 (01:07:46):
Your news.

Speaker 15 (01:07:46):
All right. Well, it's a pleasure to have you, and
we start you out at two o'clock here in Southern California.
One o'clock here in Southern California. And by gosh, we
liked you so much that now starting Monday, the Rick
Smith Show, which is on at noon, is going to
five pm. And now we're going to have you on
three hours, the Jeff Santos Show at noon, one o'clock
and two o'clock.

Speaker 12 (01:08:06):
Welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:08:07):
Hey, it's a good thing.

Speaker 24 (01:08:09):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:08:10):
It's great to be great to be on for the
three hours. You get a chance to listen to some
of our guests. Uh, he didn't have in the first hour,
so we're very excited about that. And it's so great.
You know, your team has created us so well in
this first week, and we're looking forward to a lot
more weeks going forward.

Speaker 15 (01:08:30):
Mark and the stations that leads behind.

Speaker 12 (01:08:34):
Yes, that's right. I love that tagline too, And I
got to give you credit I have. I guess you
were probably the one that that did that. You know,
I want to get into so many things, but I
want to I want to get into you know, how
you came to k C A A and uh, you know,
and brought a couple of progresses with you at the
time to start this up. And it's not easy. As

(01:08:57):
somebody who ran a radio station in Boston AM fifteen ten,
the largest non corporate station, if you want to call it,
the non iHeart now clear channel, CBS Intercom kind of thing,
and we did it for a few years.

Speaker 11 (01:09:13):
It was not easy.

Speaker 23 (01:09:14):
So I know what you're doing is not a.

Speaker 12 (01:09:17):
Piece of cake. You used to cliche this is a story,
But talk to us about how you made the transformation,
because there were some folks that are not exactly progressive
that we're on that on your station, and and now
there are three or four of you you mentioned a
couple of good friends, and Stephanie Miller and Rick Smith,

(01:09:40):
Tom Hartman is on there too. You know, this is
this is great. It's great for the people of California.
You know, progressive talk needs to be in every market
around the country, and you know, so it's I really
applaud you and and the ownership you know, for doing
just that. Give us a little story, a TikTok of
how came about.

Speaker 15 (01:10:00):
Okay, really quickly, I was working in radio and had
had left radio, and I was working for Dish TV,
and I was happily working there and a friend of mine,
who was at the time chair of the Samuewyork County
Democratic Party, Mark Shepherd, came to me and said, I've
bought a show on k c A A And I said,

(01:10:22):
oh no, not that station and so and so he says,
oh no. I said, oh okay, as you spent the
money already.

Speaker 11 (01:10:31):
He says, yep.

Speaker 15 (01:10:31):
I said, well okay, And I said, well, good luck
on the show. He says, no, Mark, I want you
to come on and help me. And so I agreed
to come on a show to help him get His
first show started on k c A and it was
you know, it was a good show and everything was
going really well. And the next week, unfortunately, Mark had
the audacity to pass away.

Speaker 11 (01:10:51):
It was a sad thing.

Speaker 15 (01:10:52):
And yeah, and and and so the station people that
were there at the time all knew me because I
worked in you know, Inland Empire Radio for a long
time and I've been around and so they said, Mark,
can you keep doing the show? You know, he's got
another contract for another ten weeks. Can you keep doing
the show. And so I started doing the show, and
then I started generating audience and ad revenue, and they said,

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can you keep doing the show, and well, great, so
I kept doing the show, and about a year into it,
the general manager that was there at the time decided
to go to another radio station. And Fred Langren came
to me and said, he's the owner of the radio station,
said Mark, can you be the general manager? And I
said no. I told him no three times. He finally
coerced me and I said, I'll do it for a

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year And here I am eighteen years later, still being
the general manager. But I love the job. And we've
had a lot of innovations and updates and everything since
I came on board. I'm kind of proud of that.
And here we are on the Jeff Santos Show. And
like you said, we have Stephanie Miller in the morning,
we have Tom Hartman on in the night, and also
in the afternoons. We've got Randy Corgan with the Teamsters

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nineteen thirty two, which we're in their building. We've got
beautiful new studios as of about a year ago, and
we've done a lot of upgrades. So we're happy.

Speaker 11 (01:12:07):
We're proud. Absolutely.

Speaker 12 (01:12:10):
Well, it's so great. It's so great to be on
U you know, your air in Southern California. We have
a lot of listeners throughout southern California and throughout the
great state of California actually, and you know, we're lucky
enough also to be on San Francisco too on tape delay.
But the but the the individual stations and you may

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own a couple of others too, but it's too you know,
it's not the conglomerate that that you know, the big three,
you know media monopolies if you might own yeah, you know,
it's it's it's not always easy with the with the
competition in the area. And of course radio is changing.

Speaker 23 (01:12:52):
You guys got a great app that people can listen
on to. I want to talk to you about that second.

Speaker 12 (01:12:57):
And you can find you know, it is time you
can find that app.

Speaker 15 (01:13:02):
You can find that app at KCA radio dot com
which produces a podcast every day for your show too.
Uh so KSEA radio dot com. And then my other
favorite website, Stop Election Rigging dot com.

Speaker 12 (01:13:16):
That's all about proper that one I think is but
I think that goes for every every state in the
country that needs to have about that, and that's a
great one. Mark and will elevate that and put that
on our website too. Again, Jeff santioshow dot com. So
talk to me a little bit about you know, the renaissance,

(01:13:39):
if you might, of progressive ratio or a lot of
a lot of a lot of it went away and
with Air America and so forth in California and UH
and other stations. Do you find that people once they
find k C A A, they said, well, this is great,
there's something like it around. How how is that whole
thing in sort of you know, telling people about it

(01:14:01):
and you know, people having a chance to listen to
some progressive voices which we're really proud to be joining,
you know, the likes Apartment and Stephanie and others.

Speaker 15 (01:14:11):
Right, And you know it started out when I started here,
we had Alex Jones on our radio station, and I
told Fred language says, I don't want to work on
a radio station with Alex Jones. I'm sorry, I don't
want to do that. And so it wasn't like an
ultimatum or condition on me coming to work here, but
he kind of agreed, and you know, Alex just kept
getting more far out and far out. Now he's not

(01:14:33):
on a single radio station because no radio stations conservative
or liberal will take Alex Jones. And but you know,
radio in it's it's being was the reason why Donald
Trump won. I really believe that they paid attention to
the radio waves. They have, they had the case.

Speaker 23 (01:14:54):
I've been saying this for a long time.

Speaker 12 (01:14:56):
Yeah, and they dominated it since the nineteen eighty.

Speaker 15 (01:14:58):
Yeah. I actually wrote Kamala Harris as a DNC delegate
which I'm also a DC delegate, and said, you need
to be on radio more. You need to be on radio.
When you know they didn't go on Joe Rogan's show,
I was like, are you kidding me? You know, And
this is what's happened. Every local yokul loudmouth across town
is on another radio station and all they do is

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conservative jargon and really no intelligence, no in facts, no information.
They just talk and complain. And we decided to not
have so much consternation and more innovation, and in doing that,
we brought in more progressive minded and I think just
logical American citizens. You know, I consider myself a moderate,

(01:15:40):
although my somehow or other standing up for the constitution,
standing up for democracy, you know, standing up for fair elections.
You know that somehow or other, there's a radical liberal
thing now and it's because the Republican Party has moved
so far to the right they don't even know themselves
what they're doing, what they're standing for. They're standing for
a dictator. And so, you know, we are trying to

(01:16:05):
develop more progressive radio and in doing so, you know,
we have our podcast. You can hear those anytime. We've
got our app. All you have to do is type
in KCAA into the app store, whether it's an Android
or an Apple phone, and you'll find our app and
it works very very well. You can listen to us
in Paris, California, which there is a Paris, California or Paris, France,

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and that's what we like to say. And you're on
right now all over the place. And I looked a
little while ago and there were thirteen hundred people listening
on the app right now.

Speaker 12 (01:16:40):
That's an incredible number, fantastic and we say hello to
all of them, and we welcome you to give us
a pal at eight three three five four five five
three three three that's eight three three five or five
Jeff J E. F F and that last four numbers
spell out and we really do and we're really excited
about being on in southern California. I used to live

(01:17:03):
both in Long Beach, uh and also up in Venice
Beach many years ago, so I know the region of
the country. And I have had some friends who've lived,
you know, in Inland Empire and you know, in San Diego,
which I also lived on the Carlsbad area, So I'm
very familiar with the with the region. And it's so

(01:17:23):
important because you know, Los Angeles the second largest media
market in the country, it's second largest city, uh in
the in the country, and the county is massive, you know,
and of course Caseya gets into elements of that. And
of course a lot of the congressional seats that are
in play will be in play next year, and some
of the Prop fifty, which is so important, are going

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to be in in your neck of the woods.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:17:50):
The quote ad on the Today.

Speaker 15 (01:17:53):
Show one hundred and forty million dollars was spent so
far and the elections eleven days away.

Speaker 12 (01:18:04):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know it is it is
it's expensive to run political ads, which is another reason
why talk radio is a a little cheaper and b
can reach a lot of people, you know, And this
is this is my mantra to a lot of progressives
out there to understand the value of it. Our numbers

(01:18:24):
are rising a little bit.

Speaker 23 (01:18:25):
I want to open up the phone line.

Speaker 12 (01:18:27):
Okay, that's great.

Speaker 15 (01:18:29):
Our numbers are rising, and I think the pendulum is swinging,
is swinging quite a bit. People are like, hey, wait
a minute, this isn't right. You're going to take away
our healthcare. You're you're firing people. There's seven hundred thousand
workers working right now without paychecks. You know, a lot
of people have been fired and people are against that.
So the political pendulum is swinging. And so that's you know,

(01:18:49):
why they're needing to do this big cheat and that's
why people need to vote.

Speaker 11 (01:18:52):
Yes on fifty.

Speaker 15 (01:18:54):
But you know, I don't want to interrupt your train
of thought here, but sometimes I get off going and
then you know, I get past and.

Speaker 12 (01:19:01):
No, no, no, no worries.

Speaker 15 (01:19:02):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:19:03):
I want to bring in a caller who used to
live in San Bernardino years ago and now one of
our great regular callers, John, who was in Minneapolis. Now, John,
you're next with Mark Wistwood of the Fantastic case AA
and again the news at the top of the hour
that I want to be taking all three hours of
the Jeff Santo Show from twelve to three.

Speaker 23 (01:19:23):
Specific time that three to.

Speaker 12 (01:19:25):
Six Eastern and if I'm right, I think that's two.

Speaker 23 (01:19:27):
To five tenfil time with you, John.

Speaker 12 (01:19:30):
Go ahead, You're next with the GM of k c AA,
Mark Westwick, go ahead.

Speaker 25 (01:19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:19:36):
I used to live in I lived in San Borantino,
I was there, I lived in Redlands, and I did
an internship at Loma Linda. And I guess I'm really
kind of curious because I want to ask you a question.
This was quite many years ago. I'm retired now, and

(01:19:56):
that was, you know, over forty years ago that I
was there, and at the time, the air quality was
so so polluted. I'm a respiratory therapist and long Thelinda
had the largest revatory care department in the entire country.
In San Bernardino County is huge. I mean it's the largest.

(01:20:19):
I think it's the largest county in the United States.
But I just I'm just curious. It seems like the
air quality because I've been to the area a couple
of years ago and the air quality just seems so
much better. So I think that all the anti pollution
regulations and things like that that they put on cars

(01:20:42):
and you know, development of solar power and all of
that has really improved the air quality.

Speaker 11 (01:20:52):
Is that the case?

Speaker 15 (01:20:54):
It is the case, and it's a really welcome thing.
Is you know, San Bardino's in the beautiful valley with
these around it and nearby the beaches and everything else,
and you know, the carbon emissions and uh and and
then forcing the companies to regulate their carbon emissions and
things like that have helped out dramatically. Dramatically. It's a
beautiful place to live. Right now, it's eighty one degrees

(01:21:15):
and sunny here. Oranges are about to start bombing and
and uh, you know, yeah, we live in a nice spot.
And uh, I thank you for being a resident of
Sam Bendino and listening before and John, Uh, it's a
pleasure to talk to you.

Speaker 11 (01:21:31):
Yeah, well, thank you.

Speaker 24 (01:21:33):
John.

Speaker 12 (01:21:33):
You know you're gonna you're gonna hear his voice a
lot because he's a regular caller of my show.

Speaker 23 (01:21:38):
And uh, and he's a great progressive.

Speaker 12 (01:21:40):
On top of it, Mark great, But you.

Speaker 23 (01:21:42):
Know that's interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:21:44):
I had a lot of friends that live in family
all lived in the South Bay area of Downey and
Bellflower and communities like that too, So again, spending a
lot of time in La County, southern La County, you know,
before you get to Anaheim and so on, and I
can tell you something about this. I also think I'm

(01:22:07):
gonna tell you something about this real quick. I say
thank you to John. John, you know you should think
about maybe retiring to stay retiring again in San Bernardino.
It's a little bit warmer weather in the winter anyways.

Speaker 26 (01:22:23):
Well yeah, but it's much much cheaper because of that.

Speaker 23 (01:22:29):
Well I think there you go.

Speaker 26 (01:22:31):
I think I'm gonna stay stay here. But yeah, it's
a beautiful place. But southern California.

Speaker 11 (01:22:37):
I love it.

Speaker 15 (01:22:38):
And so these carbon emissions and things you're talking talking about.
This isn't a radical left idea. And I know there's
some listeners out there and saying, oh, Gravin Newsom, because
that's what they'd love to do. No, Arnold Schwarzenegger put
that in place. There was an eight year term to
put it on, and Gavin news And enforced it.

Speaker 25 (01:22:54):
But absolutely, yeah, well yeah, thank you, David, Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well Kevin, you can you can think you can meet
John's Mike there.

Speaker 12 (01:23:13):
But I think that it's it's important mark the people
to understand, you know, all of that great work on
the environmental side. I guess both Jerry Brown and Gavin
Newston deserve a lot of credit for that, as they
were governor's back to back over the last fifteen years
or so, and to me is a compliment because a

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lot of hard work went in, you know, to to
cleaning up the smog that's well known and infamous in
Los Angeles lore. One of the other aspects of of this, too,
I think is important is you know, I remember the
Glen Fry song. You know, you you make it in
Miami and you sell it in La you know those

(01:23:58):
by drugs of course, But the point was was that,
you know, because of the massiveness of southern California, Los
Angeles being you know, the focal point. But it's it's
the ability to sort of, you know, live in a
wonderful warm weather client it's not the humidity of South Florida,

(01:24:19):
uh and the cold that you get here in New
England or in Minnesota where John lives. So there is
something there and if you can keep that environmental quality,
which is something again that we will face if we
continue to allow Donald Trump to be president and to
and to make sure that there is checks on him

(01:24:41):
and balances. I mean, you've got to put heavy checks
and heavy balances to hopefully impeach him in twenty twenty seven.
But I would think that people who live in San Bernardino,
in the region that you cover at ten fifty, that
you know, once you have a better quality of air,
that improve was your quality of light. You don't want

(01:25:02):
to go back to those days in the seventies and
eighties when I first came out there, right in the
early nineties, that you know, it was mog central.

Speaker 15 (01:25:11):
Remember third stagelers, Remember third stage smogglers. We don't have
those anymore. And that's with four point five million people
commuting on our freeways in southern California every day, and
we can still deliver good clean air quality because we
have the carbon emission and regulations. Yeah, it's a better
quality of life.

Speaker 12 (01:25:32):
No, oh, it's it's a it's a huge gap.

Speaker 23 (01:25:35):
It's a huge.

Speaker 12 (01:25:36):
Difference compared to where it was. And I think that, uh,
you know, for people who are listening to us online,
you know at Dune Jeff Santo Show on on both
our website and of course on YouTube and Facebook and
all other platforms, you know, this is an opportunity I
believe you know to to talk progressive politics and we

(01:25:59):
again we invite your calls. We'll have a new email
address next week as well that we'll give out to
a lot of people. And of course you can you
can always get to us by getting to the Mark
at CACAA. And it's been again a fantastic week to
start as off. Mark, really appreciate the opportunity to work

(01:26:19):
with you and your team. It is an important time
for progressives.

Speaker 11 (01:26:24):
To stand up.

Speaker 12 (01:26:25):
I know that many of my teammates here on the
show went to their local towns and communities and big
cities for No King's Day. I don't know what the
turnout was in San Bernardino, but I can only imagine
that people you know, made their made their voices clear

(01:26:46):
ye where they believe the country is going.

Speaker 15 (01:26:49):
You know the numbers around here.

Speaker 11 (01:26:51):
We had it.

Speaker 15 (01:26:51):
First of all, we didn't just have it. We had Riverside,
Sam Bernardino, Redlands, Upland Chino, Victorville. There were no King's
rallies everywhere and the average attendance, like in Riverside, was
about forty eight hundred people. Redlands has a big turnout.
They had just under four thousand people. Sam Bradodino had
you know about a grand there, and the turnout across

(01:27:14):
the United States was just huge, seven million people, of course.
And I love the pictures from conservative areas like Idaho,
where you just saw a sea of people. And that's
why I say, good the pendulum is swinging, and mister President,
you better make note of it.

Speaker 12 (01:27:28):
We'll starting to turn. It's good to see quote on
good friend Tracy Chapman. He started in the subways in Boston.
It's been a real pleasure to have you on. It's
a real pleasure to be on ACAA, pleasure to have
forward to doing a lot with you going forward.

Speaker 15 (01:27:47):
The Jeff Santos Show dot Com. It's important they say
the in front, remember the Jeff Santoshow dot com.

Speaker 12 (01:27:53):
That's right, right to have the mark, real pleasure. Thank
you so much again in the breaking news, we're going
to be on twelve to three in California and the
West Coast, and of course three or six here all
three hours alive and your calls at eight three three
five four five five three three mark a pleasure to
have you on the show. Thank you for working with you,

(01:28:15):
Thank you for making that time available and look forward
to more conversations and great more progressive talk.

Speaker 15 (01:28:23):
Hey, and one other thing, one other thing, go Dodgers,
Go Dodgers.

Speaker 12 (01:28:29):
All right, to go for the Dodgers. I know our
friend Stephen in the East Bay are going to be excited.
I actually was rooting for Seattle because they have one before.
So now we get to the Canada versus the United States,
so you know, I feel bad for our friends in
Canada avenue to deal with current occupant, the fact in
the White House budged. You know, well, we'll root on

(01:28:51):
for the Dodgers, particularly now that we're on in southern California.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
It'd be crazy. That's right.

Speaker 23 (01:28:55):
That's right, Thank you, Mark appreciated.

Speaker 12 (01:28:58):
It should be a great series. Thank you. All right, folks,
we'll be back with Mark Taylor Canfield. I was I
was honest with this, Mark because I was rooting for
the other marks team in Seattle. Mark Taylor Canfield will
join us on the other side. You are listening to
the Jeff Santo Show live in Los Angeles, San Bernardino

(01:29:20):
and live online at the Jeff Santo Show. We'll be
right back with MTC after this.

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three to six Eastern time, twelve to three Pacific And
of course now we are on the Great Signal of
AM ten fifty in San Bernardino, Greater Los Angeles, getting
into Anaheim and Long Beach. I spent some time years ago,
and of course it's just great to be in southern California.

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We're also on tape delay in San Francisco on KSFO
and at night, also on tape delay at KABC just
on Tuesday and Friday nights Tuesdays at seven o'clock and
on KABC on Fridays tonight at eight pm. Those are
tape shows hoping to go live in San Francisco next week.

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We'll see what happens there on the Great Am ten.
That's fifty thousand watts. I'm told Mark Taylor Canfield that
you may even get that in Seattle because it goes
into Western Canada. So if it goes into Western Canada,
last time I checked them the geography, you guys are
south of that. So with no further ado, Here he is,

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with the guitar in hand, the renaissance man of the
Jeff STANTIOI Show, the activist, the musician and the executive
director of Democracy Watch News, watching over the Democracy from
the Space Needle in Seattle, wa is Mark Taylor Canfield welcome, sir.

Speaker 24 (01:34:55):
Hey, Jeff, I thought I'd give you guys a quick
little pvio of the sum we're doing in the sk
It goes like this.

Speaker 12 (01:35:01):
I don't want to listen.

Speaker 24 (01:35:02):
At the top of the pop.

Speaker 12 (01:35:04):
I don't want to.

Speaker 9 (01:35:05):
Own them sheep and say you drive shops.

Speaker 24 (01:35:07):
I want to do the role withes night with my
favorite to night. I don't run your next friend, and no,
I don't need to notice how your money is fat.
All I want to do with Night. All I want
to do is fucking roll with my babite night.

Speaker 12 (01:35:28):
All right, MTC in the house with the red guitar.
You know it's big time we get the red guitar
out used to get the black one. And uh, it
is so great to have.

Speaker 11 (01:35:39):
You, my man.

Speaker 24 (01:35:40):
I have a new one on every show. I try
to have a different guitar every show, just to be different.
But you know, Halloween is coming up, so we have
a bunch of gigs and I'm playing at the Nectar
in Seattle, and also we have trollo Owen a celebration
at the famous troll statue underneath the bridge. And then
oh my god, there's a ballet. I'm going to a

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fashion show and it's like which is kind of just.

Speaker 12 (01:36:05):
Get back stage where the dancers are you and do
a little ballet.

Speaker 24 (01:36:09):
I know you're doing, so I'm not going to do.
But they did ask me to do some modeling, so
I will be wearing some local fashions and we do
have some great, very creative fashion people in this town.
And then I'm doing a play Edgar Allan Poe adaptation
of Putting the Pendulum, and that's also for Halloween. And

(01:36:30):
oh my god, what else is going on in town?
There's so much going on. You can go to my
YouTube channel if you want mark Tailor Cantel subscribe ad
free videos and you can hear about all this stuff.
But what's been going on with you, Jeff?

Speaker 11 (01:36:43):
What's up?

Speaker 12 (01:36:43):
Well, you may have just heard that we're now going
be on three hours in southern California and casey aa.
We just talked to the general manager there and very
excited about that. And the fact is is that there
are very few, as you know, progress of voices in
California and then across the country. Uh so it's great

(01:37:05):
to be on there and we're very excited. You know
a lot of people that I know you respect in
the progressive media world, like Hartman and Stephanie Miller and
Rick Smith and others are there too, so we're we're great.
It's great to be on with all of them. So
uh and we're you know, to be live in southern California.

Speaker 23 (01:37:24):
Fantastic.

Speaker 12 (01:37:25):
Thank you, I mean thank you.

Speaker 24 (01:37:26):
Need to hear you all over the world. I mean,
you know, I just want to see you take this
country by storm and take it back from these right
wing dogmatists and denigogues. And I was like, I'm so
tired of all that. I'm just so tired of the
right wing. Then as soon as I start to hear it,
I just tuned it out. I'm kind of, yeah, whatever,
heard that many times before. We've been hearing that since
Joe McCarthy. So don't give me this crap. How you

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know AOC is a communists and we're all dreaming.

Speaker 12 (01:37:54):
Reading communists exactly, following yourself up on root streets and
working in and as a bartender and waitress.

Speaker 23 (01:38:02):
And yet she's a communist yet my god, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:38:06):
You know this is insanity. Hey, I want to tell
you Duncan Donuts coffee here. I don't know if you
can see it, but of course you're a battle It's
the coffee, meaning of the world. But this Trump tariff.
You know, I went from seven dollars buying this at
the local grocery store, one of the top ones in Massachusetts,
and it went from seven dollars in September fifteenth to

(01:38:30):
fourteen dollars in a week. And it's still at fourteen
ninety nine as we speak for a pound of coffee.

Speaker 24 (01:38:36):
You know, as if we didn't have enough inflation already,
we already had so much inflation. I mean, the groceries
in Seattle. I feel like I'm living in Alaska or
something like what happened, by the way, I was going
to tell you Punky back there in the corner, see
and I see it. We ended up on ESPN because unfortunately,
the Mariners lost the last game of the ACLS series.

Speaker 11 (01:38:58):
I won run.

Speaker 12 (01:39:00):
Yes, so frustrating, I think, I know, I know, Beam,
I know the manager must be getting a lot of
pushback because they could have brought in your closer and
they didn't, and that's the big issue. And they brought
in Bizarredo, pitched well and helped in that game against
the Tigers, but you know, it just didn't have it.
And and you know Springer, who's a World Series champion

(01:39:23):
with Houston. H you know, had the experience and obviously
hit that to run Homer because otherwise you guys were
headed to the the Dodger Stadium to the start game.

Speaker 11 (01:39:33):
One.

Speaker 12 (01:39:34):
Of course we're on in Los Angeles, so we're rooting
for the Dodgers, but I told him I was rooting
for the Americans all the way.

Speaker 24 (01:39:40):
So, well, there is a team in the in the
NFL that's never been in the Super Bowl? Which one
is that I keep forgetting there's one team that's never
been in the Super Bowl, and then there have been
several teams like the Vikings who have lost like every
game and the Giants, I think, or no, if the Giants,
there's another team too that's lost four and four super Bowls.
So I'm I'm looking forward to Seattle. Because last night

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on a Thursday night football thing on Amazon, Richard Sherman,
who turns out to be a really nice guy. He
never would have thought out what he was, very smart guy,
but to be a bad guy, he said that the
Seahawks are going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 21 (01:40:18):
So there you go.

Speaker 24 (01:40:19):
Sam Darnold, Hey, thanks fighting, Thanks a lot. We really
appreciate that. Un Over here in Seattle. And and you know,
mister let me cook, whose name we won't mention, and
you know everybody's forgotten about you, to forget it. The
last time I saw our ex Seahawks quarterback out on
the field, people were booing him. So he's not doing

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so well. But Sam Arnold is doing great. We have
one of the best receivers in the league and we're
we're rolling. So it's looking good for Seattle right now.

Speaker 23 (01:40:49):
Looking good for the Seahawks.

Speaker 12 (01:40:50):
I don't know, that's a tough question. I'm going to say.
Could it be Jacksonville that's never made it to the
Super Bowl? That's the only the only team that I
can think of that wouldn't have made it because all
the others have. But anyways, it's another story from the day. Hey,
you know, in all seriousness here on the political side
of things. Before we get into some more music stuff.

(01:41:12):
And again for this is another announcement for next week.
We've got confirmed that a Bruce Springsteen cover band will
open up for Mark Taylor Canfield next week separate Yeah,
more rock music how on the Jeff Nato Show next
next Friday?

Speaker 23 (01:41:30):
Yeah, man, you know, you know you.

Speaker 24 (01:41:35):
There, you got some rock and rollers on you, so
I don't feel so with own Me and Punky, we're
the only rock and rollers, you know, so it'd be
great to.

Speaker 11 (01:41:41):
Have those guys on.

Speaker 24 (01:41:42):
By the way, the Food the Food Fighters are going
to be featured after the next Thursday night Amazon game,
so I'm going to be watching that. I'm right that
the Food Fighters on there because the other bands that
I've seen, I last, the other entertainment that I've seen
so far has not been very impressive to me, is
very like commercialized music that I don't care for. But
I love the Foo Fighters, so that's going to be cool.
I'll definitely be tuning in for that.

Speaker 11 (01:42:03):
You know.

Speaker 24 (01:42:04):
You know, hey, if Dave grol.

Speaker 23 (01:42:07):
Is a fantastic guy.

Speaker 12 (01:42:09):
You know we did with a whole slew of things
about you know, the album in twenty fifteen about the
fantastic Soho and No Longer, and I would think it's
now in Brooklyn, a studio that Dave Grohl made one
of the albums on, and I think back in twenty fifteen,
and it's a fantastic place. We've had on their guy,

(01:42:29):
mister Rosenthal a couple of times. And maybe if we
get back into New York and be more news on
that next week. You know, maybe that's another way to
bring all that groups together again. Dave Grohl is a
fantastic guy. You know, he played also at the twenty
twelve Democratic Convention, a big fan of Obama, and I

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think on one of the HBO specials that he did
he actually interviewed the former president. So way up on
Dave Grohl, I grew up born in Ohio and grew.

Speaker 23 (01:43:01):
Up in Washington, d C.

Speaker 12 (01:43:02):
So he knows the whole political thing pretty well. Speaking
of DC. The big issue that I know we wanted
to talk about in our pre interview was what is
happening now with the great journalists who have walked out
of this whole you know, Estopo like propaganda machine, Gebels

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like kind of scenario with the with the White House,
you know, basically being looking for stenographers to just you know,
bring out with Heskeap brings out on a daily basis,
which is usually a bunch of nonsense. Pentagon reporters are
showing what true journalism is about. I know that's something
that you're concerned about. Mark. You've talked about reporters without

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borders many times and about you know the importance of
freedom of the press in this country. Talk to me
a little bit about that, because I know that is
something that you're very serious about. And we saw an
example of folks doing the right thing, and I have
blought all of them as well.

Speaker 24 (01:44:04):
Yes, it was very good to see. By the way,
before I get more serious, Dave Grohl is one of
the best drummers, and I know that because I've seen
my drummer play his tracks. And the one track that
everybody loved the most outside of T Mobile Park when
we played there all week was Smells Like Teen Spirit,

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and that's the one song that they were playing when
I was in Europe. The first song when I got
to France that they were playing in the discotheque was
that song. So it never gets old and people still
rock out to it in Seattle. They love that song.

Speaker 12 (01:44:36):
But yeah, and obviously just to connect the dots too,
you know, a lot of people know of the Dave
role the food Fighters, lead singer, drummer and of course guitarists,
but he was the drummer for the you know, amazing
band that changed rock and roll forever of Nirvana, and

(01:44:57):
people who maybe a little bit younger than us may
not remember that, but that's that's that's how he got
his national star.

Speaker 24 (01:45:06):
Yeah, and actually the base career, Chris the Selik has
also done a lot of political work. He was working
with Rock the Vote with Tom Morello and those guys
and Jello Biafra. I got to meet them because of
that whole movement. And yeah, so you know, more and more.
Eddie Vedder has been very political. He played for Ralph

(01:45:27):
Vader when Ralph Nader was running for president. But but yeah,
it's good to see that the activists speaking out. I
would like to hear more of them speaking out about
freedom of the press. I seem to be the only
one doing that. But it's important because when those reporters
walked out of the Pentagon, it was a true sign
that freedom of the press is in danger in the
United States, and we knew it was coming. It's been

(01:45:49):
declining according to the World Press Freedom Index, put out
by Reporters Without Orders every year on May third, World
Press Freedom Day is designated by the United Nations. So
we knew that that. You know, it had been slipping
in even under former presidents, but under Trump, it's just
it's going to bottom out. I mean, I hate to
see what the rankings are going to be on May

(01:46:13):
third of next year, because this is terrible. The one
thing I can say that is good is that the
reporters did show solidarity. They walked out together, including Fox
and Newsmax. So I mean, yes, shocking, we walked out
to the one group the propaganda machine that stayed, of
course is the turning point people. But they I don't

(01:46:35):
even want to mention them. They're not really journalists. You know,
we have some journalists like that, unfortunately in Seattle, who
are more propagandas than than journalists. But it's it's a
very important issue. I wish that more of the United
States media would cover this. They just don't. I mean,
your show, maybe Hartman and Democracy watched news very very
seldom is it covered anywhere else. It just seems like

(01:46:58):
one of those stories that even know, the Committee to
Protect Journalists and Reporters of that Border is just you know, saying,
you know, they count on this issue every year on
May third, and I try to help him to do that.
And there are international events that go on all over
the world talking about frestfeedom, but in the United States
you can hear a pin drop. It's like nobody even
knows what's happening, and I would like to change that.

Speaker 11 (01:47:18):
Jeff.

Speaker 24 (01:47:19):
I think that shows like yours can really help. So
getting you on more and more stations would be great.
And I'm going to do my best to speak out
on this issue and use my music as much as
I can. I do have some political stuff that I've
been writing.

Speaker 12 (01:47:33):
It's crazy, though, because we need we need your We
need the full monthy of Mark Taylor Canfield, the activist,
the journalist, and of course the musician UH to pull
this together because now more than ever. You know, one
of the things that I think is important in all this,
and I saw it last week. We want to get

(01:47:53):
your thoughts on what you saw in Seattle and the
Seattle Washington area of No King's Day. But you know,
the thing that I was really impressed with is people
from all walks of vice that I saw, and you know,
not in Boston. I wasn't in the city, but you know,
in smaller mid cities and smaller towns, you know people
coming together. You knows, it's retired police officers, it's firefighters,

(01:48:17):
it's nurses, you know, lawyers that were there, some pro
bono trying to, you know, get people aware of what
is that state here with the democracy all these things,
and to me it was it's just wonderful. People were
you know, people were smiling. It was a nice day
in Massachusetts last weekend. And I just feel that that

(01:48:40):
is when people come together. And when you see what
happened in Washington again, I lived there for eight years,
and you know, people ever get together. You know, it's
Democrats on one side, Republicans on another, and know they
don't talk. And you know, maybe at a Redskins game
back then or now as a commander's game. Of course,
Trump wants to bring the Redskins name, being the racist

(01:49:01):
that he is, so bring back with the column of
that that is, which is really, to a Native American,
a massive insult. And you know, but I'm glad that
people are coming together and I think that's the only
way to overcome the fascism. And you know, seven million

(01:49:22):
people did just that the other day.

Speaker 11 (01:49:23):
Well, so what was it like in Seattle?

Speaker 24 (01:49:27):
Wow, ninety thousand people rallied in march on No King's
Day and it was mind blowing. All I can say
is that I'm really proud of my community for standing
up like that. I think there's still a lot of
frustration in that. You know, after ninety thousand people, this

(01:49:49):
is like the WJO demonstrations now, Jeff here in Seattle
is huge. We haven't seen anything like since then, since
nineteen ninety nine. And it's crazy. I mean, I I
don't see any classes happening with police. I don't see
any much police presence at all during this protest. They
seem to be standing back. But there's so much going

(01:50:10):
on in the country that requires this kind of protest,
not only the fact that you know, we are losing
our democracy and that you know, basically you know, the
reporters I love them because what they realize in sticking
to the principles is that it's this has been one

(01:50:30):
more move towards authoritarianism, an authoritarian regime in this country
where the public is not allowed to access to vital
information about the workings of their own government. And that's
not a democracy. So we're obviously very concerned about this
a Democracy Watch News where I serve as executive director,
and it's been an ongoing battle with the press that
the Trump administration is basically waging a war with the press,

(01:50:53):
and then to see ninety thousand people in the street
reacting to that, and to see our own governor and
for Attorney General Bob Ferguson and Mayor Bruce Harald here
and Seattle are preparing for a potential deployment of National
Guard troops. This is crazy. And Harold, by the way,
has passed the city Yeah, Harold is.

Speaker 7 (01:51:14):
On top of it.

Speaker 25 (01:51:14):
Though.

Speaker 24 (01:51:14):
He's passed the city ordinance pertaining to ice agents, including
a law which will bar them from covering their faces.
So we're all waiting to see what happens next. But
I will quote my friend and representative from Illa, Jaiapa,
who represents Seattle in the US Congress, and that's she says,
our cities are not war zones or training grounds. And

(01:51:36):
as the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals rightly said, and
it's ruling, political political opposition is not rebellion. And that's
the bottom line right there. For me, it's this propaganda
that tries to make all of the protesters into paid
protesters or violent anarchists or something is ridiculous. This is
a middle class, middle of American movement that is very

(01:52:01):
diverse and is including you know, millions of people around
the country, so any act, you know, but the authoritarians
always try to do that. They always try to dis
miss and just put the you know, they don't want
to admit that they're politically unpopular and that their programs
are hurting people. So there you go, right one way.

Speaker 23 (01:52:18):
Of doing they hit us here.

Speaker 12 (01:52:21):
They just wanted to win my one vote to stop
any progressive legislation. They're only there to protect the one percent,
to make sure that they have all the profits they
possibly can, to have the second home in Tahiti and
the third Lamborghini and whatever else they need. And you
know this, this is this is who they are, and
it's time for Democrats to stand up, be tall, be bold,

(01:52:42):
and stand up for health care for all. That's Medicare
for all or something like it, or you know the
same thing, for free college. You know, I mean, all
these things that are there. Our good friend Bernie Sanders
has talked about it goes back to the FDR agenda
of nineteen thirty three.

Speaker 23 (01:52:59):
Through you know, through his nineteen programs exactly.

Speaker 24 (01:53:04):
These are popular ideas all the.

Speaker 23 (01:53:07):
Past people that FDR developed.

Speaker 24 (01:53:10):
Well, these are very popular ideas with the American public
and the only people it's not popular with are the
people on the right and it's billionaires. But for the
rest of us, it would be great.

Speaker 11 (01:53:22):
Yeah, that's where and.

Speaker 24 (01:53:24):
I don't know. I guess there's more of us than them.

Speaker 12 (01:53:27):
There are ninety at the end of the day, largest
demonstration in American history. So there you go, seven million
plus and I think it's going to only grow. Talking
with Mark Taylor, can't field here on the Jeff Stantio Show.
Phone number to join us eight three three five four
five five three three three Again, folks, the news of today.
We're going to go three hours live in southern California

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in case c AA, that's ten fifty am. And we're
very excited about that, and hopefully more news of the
expansion of the Jeff Stantio Show in the coming days
and weeks as well.

Speaker 14 (01:54:03):
Mark.

Speaker 12 (01:54:03):
You know, one of the things that I really love
about your city when it's been a while since I've
been there, but hopefully one of these days will get
over there is the is the real open minded, the progressiveness.
And you know, the Blue Jays are in the World
Series and you know a lot of our friends and
listeners now are Dodgers fans, but I must tell you

(01:54:27):
I'm wondering if Vancouver may get a baseball team. I mean,
I know it could pull away some fans from the Mariners,
but I think that would be a hell of a rivalry,
much as the Kraken and the Canucks are in hockey.
And you know that would that would be fascinating to
see if if that was to occur, because there are

(01:54:49):
a lot of Canadian fans in the western part of
the country, you know, they they have to root for Toronto.
No more Montreal Exposed and all that stuff. What do
you what do you think about that?

Speaker 23 (01:54:58):
You spend a lot of time in British Columbia, that.

Speaker 12 (01:55:00):
Whole Cascadia thing, Oregon, Washington State, British Columbia.

Speaker 24 (01:55:06):
Yeah, I think the idea of Cascadia has become even
more a proposed. People are starting that idea.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Is it? You know?

Speaker 24 (01:55:15):
But yeah, I think we'd have to talk to our
friends on the sports pages of the than Vancooper's son.
Maybe I can help you try to get one of
those guys on your show would love to talk about Yeah.
And then yeah, I mean I think I just had
a slash when you were talking about that. My aunt
has a Montreal expost Pennant right, so members expos, we're

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another Canadian team.

Speaker 12 (01:55:45):
I used to have your hat red and white and
blue and and very very cool uniforms.

Speaker 11 (01:55:51):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:55:51):
They had the powder blues before most of the other
teams did and uh on the road, whites at home.
And unfortunately they've never really had a great ballpark. They
first played and I think it was Jerry Park, and
it was so bad that they had to end the
games early because of the sunlight. Our start the games later.

(01:56:11):
I didn't start the games at eight o'clock. And then
they moved into this the Olympic Stadium, which is the
nineteen seventy six They used it for the Olympics, and
it was just a horrific artificial turf and the ball
bounced all over the place.

Speaker 23 (01:56:25):
Those were the days of the artificial Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:56:29):
The Kingdome, I was terrible. I was out there in
the Kingdome. Yeah you saw Ken Griffy there?

Speaker 7 (01:56:43):
Wow?

Speaker 24 (01:56:43):
Okay, Well I saw an incredible game there too when
I was a kid. But our high school band went
there and we were involved in a state wide competition,
so we got to go and perform at the Kingdome
during this festival for Marching bands. And I was out
there on that field and I was looking down at
it and I was just saying, I would hate to
play football. That would suck. I mean, it's it's hard there.

(01:57:06):
It was kind of uneven in points and blunky and
just if you slid on it, oh man, that's a rugbird.
So I and then you know, the Kingdom, the air
was just dead and it was just it was terrible
for music concerts too because of the echo. So uh,
I don't think anybody was really sad to see.

Speaker 7 (01:57:27):
Yeah, the only.

Speaker 12 (01:57:29):
Brilliant The only thing that I think, you know people missed,
uh was you know, you knew, you knew for a
fact that you're never going to see a rain drop.
That's about the only thing. But eventually the root, yeah
you do.

Speaker 24 (01:57:43):
Yeah, but we have the respect.

Speaker 15 (01:57:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:57:45):
That was the other problem with the Kingdom. Things are
falling on the crowd, so the so and it wasn't
even yeah yeah, but but it's better to have a
uh definitely in Seattle especially, it's best to have of
the retractable roofs because that way, if it's sunny and seat,
it's a great day. I mean, it's a great day

(01:58:06):
to see baseball.

Speaker 12 (01:58:09):
Have they played many games? Don't there with the retractable roof,
because I don't remember seeing I.

Speaker 24 (01:58:14):
Don't want to see it. Well, there's also the overhangs,
so there are certain seats that you're gonna you're gonna
you know, coverage anyway. It's like that in New York too.
But I think, you know, we're just glad to have uh,
you know, team over park. And I just keep thinking
of George Carlin talking about the difference between football and baseballs.

Speaker 23 (01:58:33):
So yeah, yes, exactly, that's great stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:58:44):
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Speaker 12 (01:58:45):
I check you out on on, on, on X, check
you out on a lot of different platforms.

Speaker 23 (01:58:49):
You're always there.

Speaker 12 (01:58:50):
Appreciate you, man, so good then the week as I'm
not on X because I got I got on all right, okay,
very cool.

Speaker 24 (01:59:01):
Yeah, yeah, we see bot pretending to be me on
X right now, so bewearfolks, not me anyway. Thanks Jeff.
I always love your stove. Up the good work. I'm
gonna hear you all over the country and in Seattle.

Speaker 23 (01:59:12):
Let's do it forward to that.

Speaker 11 (01:59:13):
Thank you man.

Speaker 12 (01:59:14):
I have a great weekend.

Speaker 23 (01:59:15):
Joy enjoy the pre Halloween stuff too, all right. I
want to thank our great much.

Speaker 24 (01:59:20):
The world period.

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Then you go one to thank our great teams producing
broadcast today, Freddie Kevin, all of our eight team on marketing,
social media folks. Keep on fighting teamfully until Monday. My
name is Jeff Stantune, and it's right now my time
to say I gotta go.

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