KCAA: Jeff Santos (Fri, 31 Oct, 2025)

KCAA: Jeff Santos on Fri, 31 Oct, 2025

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A federal judge says the Trump administration has through the
weekend to decide how they'll release SNAP funds. The Food's
Assistance program is set to expire tomorrow unless the government reopens,
impacting forty two million low income Americans who are enrolled.
The Massachusetts judge said that the Trump administration must decide
whether to fully or partially fund SNAP using emergency funds

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by Monday. The judge said she'll make a ruling regarding
the funds once she hears the White House's decision. The
lawsuit was brought by twenty five Democratic led states. It's
not known if the White House will appeal her ruling. Meantime, today,
the President placed the shutdown fully on the Democrats.

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The Democrats just don't know what they're doing. I don't
know what's wrong with them. They've never done a thing
like this. They've become praised lunatics.

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The Senat adjourned yesterday and won't meet again until after
the weekend. The shutdown is now in its thirty five day.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune doesn't want to get rid
of the filibuster. He's maintaining his stance as President Trump
renews his call to pursue the nuclear option and bypass
the philibuster to reopen the government. However, many senior members
of the GOP fear that weakening the Senate rule could

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have significant blowback if Democrats regain control. The FBI says
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Vote yes on Prop fiftyte California.

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Now here's Jeff.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Happy Halloween, Kevin, and Happy Halloween to all of you
out there. On this Friday Halloween edition of the Jeff
santo Show. You have a bunch of interesting tidbits coming
up today and we'll celebrate Halloween with all of you.
It's great to be with you on this Friday edition.
As I said, we are going to be chatting with

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a number of folks I think have a lot to
say about our current state of affairs in this country.
We're also going to have some fun, after all, it
is Halloween. We're going to be talking with Saints in
the City. It's a Bruce Springsteen cover band. We're going
to be talking to their members. Coming up at five Eastern.

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That's two o'clock Pacific time, so stay tuned for that.
Of course, we'll wrap it up with Mark Taila Canfield,
a musician in his own right and does covers too,
so we'll be looking forward to that and a third
r We're going to start off at three point thirty
Eastern that's of course twelve thirty Pacific time. Our friends
at CACAA in the fantastic Sam Bernardino Southern California Region

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Greater Los Angeles. We are live twelve to three Monday
through Friday, and we thank Mark and the great team
there for given us the opportunity to speak to the
folks in Southern California. We start off with the spokesperson
for Ayatzi. This is the theatrical stage workers. These are

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folks that work behind the scenes. They are a strong union.
They are very strong in supportive Gavin Newsoman Prop fifty.
We'll talk to their spokesperson, Betty Madden, coming up at
three point thirty three Eastern time. Then we will chat
with our good friend Alan Grayson, representative from the great
State of Florida. Former representative represented two different districts in

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the fantastic City of Orlando, Florida. And then at four
o'clock we change directions a little bit. As you may know,
we remember last week there was a big scandal on
betting and the NBA was a big part of this situation.
They uh, you know, it was here and Billups former

(09:09):
Celtics by the way, Boston Connection and they will be
you know, the discussion. Part of the discussion we're going
to have with our good friend Patrick Claiborne of the
NFL Network. He's anchor there, uh and understands what's at stake,
primarily a lot for African American athletes, a lot of
pressure on them. Obviously, the majority of players in the

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NBA are African American and there's a significant majority in
the NFL too. So what does this all mean, All
this money being thrown around, you know, games being you know,
potentially bet on, you know, with injuries that are not
really injuries, all this kind of stuff. So we'll talk
with our good friend Patrick claibon at four oh six

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Eastern that's one oh six Pacific time. Then at four
point thirty one thirty Greg Palace the Great investigative journal
Greg Palace dot com. He has done so much work
and can give us an update on the issues of
voter suppression, on the importance of Prop fifty. He is
an independent. He is not aligned with the Democratic Party,

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although Republicans you know, frankly either. They don't want any
part of Greg Palace. So believe you meet and then
we'll wrap it up. As I said, with the Bruce
Springsteen cover band. I get to see them this summer
at a at a local festival. They were fantastic. Mister Santa,
the elite singer who plays Bruce Springsteen, is just unbelievably

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you know, a fact similar thereof as got all the energy,
all the passion of the real Bruce and he will
be with us along with Tom Visconte, who is the
great drummer and manager of the team, and the rest
of their bad members who will introduce at five o'clock
and as they say, MTC will wrap it up coming

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up at at five thirty Eastern, that's two thirty Pacific time.
Phone number remains the same at eight three three five
four five five three three three. That is eight three
three five four five five three three three. Let me
talk to you about a couple of other things that
are going on, and of course that's the big news

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at the Jeff Santo's show, and that is starting on Monday,
we will be on WGHT AM fifteen hundred in New
York City. We're very psyched about that, starting at three
o'clock to six o'clock Eastern. It's very rare. You can
get on in Manhattan and in the Bronx and many
other communities around New York City. It's not the strongest

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signal in the world, but we are very happy to
be starting there and there will be other stations as
we move along over the next year or so. But
this is an important step for the Jeff Santo Show
to be back on in New York. We were there
probably about eleven or twelve years ago, and we miss
the big city and we hope to be going there

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at some point as well to do a live remote.
There is a number of people to thank on this,
but mainly Freddie and his colleague as well that did
a lot of work on this. So we thank very
much then for getting this deal done and we look

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forward to working with the staff there in New York City,
New Jersey. The signal actually emanates from New Jersey. He
gets into New York City and very strong Manhattan, the
Bronx and into the suburbs there. Not so much in
other parts of the Borrows. But again, we will work
with this and we're going to do other things too

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to complement that, and maybe some television cable access as
well to surround the metropolitan area. Now we're also you know,
continue to look to expand the show. We'll talk about
that over the coming weeks, but we're looking at the Midwest, West, etc.

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So we'll be in touch with you on that as
we move along here into twenty twenty six. Is we
all know this is a huge weekend, people getting out
the vote. A lot of people that call this show
that you know that are guests on this show are
going to be going door to door, people like Melissa
Tomlinson and deb Cornavaca, who, of course the former deputy

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chief of staff to Governor Murphy and now the government
relations director at the New Jersey Education Association. This is
a couple there in New Jersey. There are folks that
are connected to New York City. Our good friend John
Nichols is actually in New York City and he's heading
to California, so we'll be talking to him on Tuesday.

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So this is a very exciting weekend if you're in politics.
It looks good for Democrats, but again, you know, we
all know the chicanery the Republicans like to play in
particularly New York City Tammany Hall politics that's been going
on for a long long time. So there is a
lot of excitement, but there's also a lot of potential chaos.
So we are moving in that direction to to give

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you as much information, and we're looking forward to being
on in New York City. You know, our friend Herb Boyd,
and we're gonna do something special just to warn Freddy
here coming up in the second hour before we get
to our friend Patrick Clayven, I want to play a
Happy Birthday to Herb Boyd and his wife for tomorrow.

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They both celebrate their birthday on Saturday, November first, so
we're gonna do a little bit. Just warn Freddy and
Kevin about that in our number two and we'll send
it to Herb as from the Jeff Santo Show. Just FYI,
we could have done it yesterday. We're just a lot
of things going down, folks, That's what it is. But

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our good friend Herb boy has been with the show.
I was a great friend of mine and a great
friend of the show going back to twenty and thirteen
twenty fourteen, so it's been a long time, and we
wanted to wish he and his wonderful wife there a
very very happy birthday. So we'll try to get that

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out and see where things go. Okay, So I wanted
to talk a little bit about, you know, the snap benefits.
There's judges both in Rhode Island and in Massachusetts that
have sued, and the judges have actually agreed with them

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to have the President actually pay those benefits to people immediately.
We'll keep you abreast of what transpires if they go
to the Supreme Court, whatever happens. But obviously you know
what we saw, and we're going to actually have a
discussion with our friends on Monday at sciu Nage. You know,

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we had such a good response from a lot of
our listeners and callers, and Miss Blackman was very excited
about the opportunity of coming back. So we're going to
look to have her back next week. We were playing
this interview we did, I believe on Wednesday. We're playing

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it tonight on KABC in Los Angeles for those of
you in greater Los Angeles and greater Southern California. That
will be airing at eight pm this evening on AM
seven ninety KABC, And we thanks our friends at KABC
and KSFO for their great work. Now, there is another

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piece of the puzzle that I want to talk to
you about the fact that people are and mainstream media
is now covering. As I look at the monitor here,
they're covering the snap issue the federal workers being laid off,
and that is great. It's good journalism. And the emotions

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that you get when talking to people who are losing
their benefits is good TV video. Remember the whole adage
I kept telling you about. It's been going on for
forty years. The great Don Henley, the drummer, did a
solo and you know so called give them dirty laundry.
In this case, it's not dirty laundry. It's actually human
emotion and people losing their jobs, losing money, they can't

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afford even to go get Starbucks. Again the great line
from Lee Blackman. You know, they go from the Starbucks line,
you know for five dollars for a cup of coffee
or more, to a soup line where they don't know
where their next meal is coming from. So these are
all things that to me, we need to understand and

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we need to bring people on. So that's why we're
going to try to do this weekly with our friends
at again seiun AGE, National Association of Government Employees, and
there are other groups. We're looking to get some food banks,
you know, a lot of people, and I think this
is part of the great story of Bruce Springsteen. You know,

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he has done a tremendous amount of work with food
banks and has done that in almost every city that
he plays in. And we'll talk to our friends saints
in the city about, you know, the big heart of
Bruce Springsteen. We're not going to get into politics with
these because there's different views on the band. But the

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fact is is that I believe you know, if you
if you're an artist, and Springsteen is the ultimate you
give back and he has done just that throughout his
career and has worked with different food banks, not only
in New Jersey but around the country. And we're going
to try to talk to some of them because they

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are folks on the front lines. Again, I give credit
to both MSNBC and CNN for talking to some of
these people because this is really what's said stake. It
is horrendous what is happening right now in the United
States of America. It cannot be allowed to continue, and

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we need to use the courts when we can. Again,
we're always fighting back peacefully with a capital P. You
cannot do anything that you know creates more violence, more bloodshed,
That is not the way to solve things. You've got
to do this peacefully. Now I'm looking at it for

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a Tuesday. I think the Democrats will do very well.
Not sure about the Pennsylvania Supreme Court situation. We haven't
followed that as closely as we can. We might have
to try to get some information on that, maybe from
our good friend Jerry Austin in nearby Ohio to see
where the where the polls are in that. But I

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feel confident about the governor's race in Virginia, very also
confident in New Jersey, although it's going to be closer.
I think Mamdani will win by ten points or more.
And of course I think Prop fifty will also win
double digits in California. So these are massive wins. This

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is great, great momentum for the Democrats. We want to
hear from folks over the days fall in the election Wednesday,
Thursday and Friday, and we're prepared to ask a whole
slew of people, members of Congress as well as the
DNC officials to come on the show and talk about

(20:38):
where the roadmap goes. Again, We've said it many times,
the FDR roadmap is your best road. We talked to
the grandson yesterday, Jim Roosevelt. He understands that he understands
like Alan Minsky. Of course the twenty first century of
Bill of Wrights that he and Harvey k have put together.
So these are all things that need to be fleshed out.

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And again after the election on November fifth, sixth seventh,
into the following week, we're going to be trying to
compile as many opinions. I'll tell you, we are going
to push for a progressive populist FDR agenda. And that
is an agenda that is you know, let in some places,
in some cases by people like Bernie Sanders and AOC

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and and many other Democrats that I think understand that
this is the roadmap and it's at the same time
one that can bring people together. You know, look, the
Democratic Party, you know, little a lot of different factions.
Our good friend an outreach director here at the Jeff
Santo Show, Melvin Poindexter. Mel Poindexter, you know, we talk

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a lot and the one issue, you know, we're always
trying to do this, and of course Mel is a
fantastic broker, somebody who brings people together. And you know,
the Democratic Party under FDR one for very comfortable, if
not blowout elections. You don't throw that away and say, oh,
well that was that was ninety years ago. That was

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eighty years ago. No, that that lasted up until nineteen
sixty six because lb J, you know, one of the
mentees of our friend Franklin Delano Roosevelt past medicare, medicaid,
social security and medicaid, medicaid, voting rights and and of

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course civil rights in two years sixty four sixty five.
Now he was a majority leader, so he could do
a lot of things, including, you know, holding up the
poor beagle puppies. I had a beagle for many years myself,
and you know, and he played played, he played pretty
rough politics with his former colleagues in the House and

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Senate back then. But he got things done. But then
Vietnam came, and I'm not going to give you a
history lesson right here, but that pretty much stopped them momentum. Yes,
some good things happened after with Carter and Clinton and
particularly Obama and Biden working with Bernie Sanders actually, as
we talked about yesterday with Jim Rolsville. So all those

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things are there, we need to continue it. But I
want to see where Democrats and progressives are post election,
post November fourth, and we're going to try to line
up as many people as possible. Interestingly enough, we have
the National Hockey League Players Association president Marty Walls, former
Secretary of Labor Fromer Mayor of Boston, schedule for Wednesday.

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They leave that to a four pm Eastern time, one
pm Pacific interview. So we get a lot of different
people with a lot of different opinions, some you know,
close to mine and many of yours who are listeners
of the show, some maybe more to the center, maybe
some that you know have a much unique perspective on things.

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All this is going to be, you know, like I say,
fleshed out post November fourth. Okay a three three five
four or five five three three three, Kevin? I think
we have John on hold? Is that correct? All right,
let's go to John in Minneapolis. You are first this hour?
What say you, sir?

Speaker 19 (24:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:17):
How are you doing? All right?

Speaker 8 (24:19):
Man?

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I hope your Halloween is off to a good start.
I hope Puck is getting dressed up tonight.

Speaker 20 (24:27):
He's always dressed up, that's right. Yeah, gotta love well
we Yeah.

Speaker 21 (24:38):
I am proud to say that we were we were
featured on Democracy Now with the candidate Omar Seta, who
they're calling the uh the Mondamie of the Midwest, which
I mean, maybe that's the stretch, but I I I'll
take it. You know, it sounds pretty good to me. Anyway,

(25:01):
we have ranked choice voting here. I think ranked choice
voting would open up uh, the electorate to you know,
coalitions that just don't seem to be able to be
made with the present system. So in a sense you
end up with a parliamentary system where people make you know,

(25:24):
connections between each other. And there's three candidates, two candidates,
three candidates that are running in a sense together and
telling us, you know, not to rank our present mayor
uh pray uh not to rank him at all, but
to rank those three so that you know, if there is.

Speaker 22 (25:47):
It's going to be.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Ranked choice voting. But I think it obviously helps in
the case in the primary, if you want to call
it that with Cuomo and the rest of the hopfuls
and on Donnie, I think that obviously helped men Donnie.
But I don't know if if it is a panacea,
because you can you can have it misconstrued right, But

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I think it worked.

Speaker 21 (26:13):
It works a panacea, but it's better than what we
have now.

Speaker 23 (26:17):
I think.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I mean, well, if you think about this, we should
try it and see if it Yeah, no, I agree
with you if you think about this. You know, many
people look back at the year two thousand and I
was a good friend Jim Roosevelt did yesterday on what
happened with Ralph Nada or Al Gore. If you would
have had ring choice voiant voting, you know, there would
have been a president Al Gore because you would have

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compiled all those votes. So you know, that's an example now,
you know, just to play Devil's advocate for one second year,
if you would have Republicans known this, right, would they
have run a few other Republicans as you know, independent
wacka doodle parties and you know, try to ramp up
the vote that with. So there's that whole thing too.

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So that's why I say fantasy. But it is something
and and and people you know will go to work
not just for a paycheck on politics, They go because
they believe in it. And I think there's also that
other issue too. The Republicans, you know, you know, they
they pay people you know to to do whatever they

(27:22):
need to do on positive or negative whatever. A lot
of a lot of these folks on our side, on
the progressive left, if you want to call it, that,
they do it because they care. They're volunteers in many cases.
So you know, I'm not saying there's not volunteers on
the right, but I would say there's a lot more
on the left. So there's you know, there's that perspective.

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I'm interested. I think, go ahead to finish your thought, John,
I please, I.

Speaker 22 (27:50):
Think it would.

Speaker 21 (27:51):
It would favor you know, real policies instead of personalities,
and there would be less likely, you know, the influence
of money would would be somewhat of punded or you
lessoned by by having.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
You know this that system.

Speaker 21 (28:11):
And a lot of cities are doing it. I think Seattle,
New York, Minneapolis, there's other other cities. But you know,
our political system. I mean, obviously there's something wrong when
so many people just don't even vote.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Well, that's it. I don't know if Frank Joyce is
trying anything involves that, but I think that there is
a real need and I think the overall emphasis here
is to get people to concern themselves about their community.
I mean, you know, you live in the great city
of Minneapolis, a progressive community, and they vote quite in
large numbers, as do people in Minnesota and nearby Wisconsin.

(28:50):
But for most most of these yeah, most of these states,
they don't have a big, big voting turnouts. And you know,
we joked about this on this show. The Australians, you know,
actually find you if you don't vote. And I think
I mentioned this story when I was in London thirty
years ago. You know, we're all out of the pub,

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you know, having a couple of pints, and all of
a sudden, the guy said, is always it's seven forty five.
I got to get to the embassy in Australia and
across town to go and vote, and he ran out
of the ran out of the pub, left his pint
on the table, and off you win. That's that's because
they don't want the fifty dollars. Fine, but they also
have some pride there too, so I think that's the

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other piece of it. Great points on rank choice, john Way. Yeah,
we'll appreciate it.

Speaker 21 (29:39):
We'll talk how old where Australia's turnout is, but it's a.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Lot better than our We can tell you yeah. Thanks,
we're right back. Thanks John.

Speaker 12 (30:04):
Wishing for a little more information, Oh righty, God, you'll
get it here at kcaah righty.

Speaker 9 (30:17):
Thursday Night football Lamar Jackson back after missing three games
with a hamstering injury, through four touchdowns as the Ravens
took down the Dolphins twenty eight to six in Miami.
Head coach John Harbaugh on Jackson's return, I'm proud of him.

Speaker 24 (30:31):
I'm proud of the way he came out and played,
you know, and proud of the way Tyler played last week.
Both those two guys played. Want T Martin deserves a
lot of credit, you know, he did a great job
with those guys and Monk and the offensive coaches.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Ravens improved to three and five, Dolphins fall to two
and seven. NBA thunder crushed the Wizards by nineteen.

Speaker 18 (30:48):
Improved to six and oh.

Speaker 9 (30:50):
Victor webbin Yama dropped in twenty six, scrapped eighteen boards
to help the Spurs beat the Heat for their first
five and oh starting franchise history. The Nationals hired thirty
three year old Blake Butterra as our next manager. He
becomes a youngest skipper in the league. Since nineteen seventy two,
and the Blue Jays looking for their first World Series
title in over three decades when they play the Dodgers

(31:12):
stunt in Game six in Toronto. That's sports. I'm Ron's
a boss.

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Speaker 10 (31:55):
Because they care, let me tell you something about a bully.
The only thing they understand is strength. The Democratic Party
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But we saw the frat. Millions joined the movement. Trump

(32:15):
tried to steal one election. He's trying again. Now it's
Texas versus California. You want to beat Trump. Democrats can't
keep playing.

Speaker 19 (32:23):
By the old rules.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
Vote yes on Prop fifty and let's stick it to Trump.

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Speaker 4 (33:30):
Thirty three minutes past the hour, it is the Jeff
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live from the South coast here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
It's a Halloween day today, and you know when the
actors dress up, and whether it's Halloween costumes or they're

(33:51):
playing you know, Shakespeare, whatever the case is, there is
a union. There are people who are actually involved in
making all that happen. If you watch Saturday Night Live,
you see it every Saturday night. There's a bunch of
people running on stage, Garvin the actors and doing all
these things. Well, that's her union, and that's the International

(34:15):
Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees known as IZ. They been
around since eighteen ninety three, about one hundred and seventy
thousand strong members. They are big advocates of Prop fifty
in the great state of California. Of course California, New
York are big parts of this, but it's all over

(34:36):
North America. It's international Canada in the US here to
talk about. That is a spokesperson for AYANZI, and that
is our good friend Betty Madden. She joins us from California. Betty,
thank you so much for spending time with us today.
How are you.

Speaker 27 (34:57):
I'm great. Thank you for having me on your program.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Well, you know, it's great to have you on. It's
great to talk about the entertainment field. You know, they thought,
you know, thinks about Brad Pitton. You know, the great
actors and actresses that are there making millions of dollars.
But there are a lot of people, you know that
are just getting by. And unions are so critical. You know,

(35:21):
yesterday we had on the largest union in the country,
our friends at the California Teachers Association, and it's important
as they are advocates for Prop fifty and vote yes
on Prop fifty, which we urge all of our listeners
to do, particularly those at KCAA AM ten fifty that

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are in California, but it's important for the other forty
nine states as well. So for all your members, Betty,
across the country that are not in California. Today, tell
us why Prop fifty means so much to them, mean
so much to you. UH, And this vote on November
fourth in California. UH needs to have a yes vote.

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At the end of the day, your thoughts beudy.

Speaker 16 (36:12):
Well, UH, Top fifty is a fix to what's going
on nationally.

Speaker 21 (36:21):
UH.

Speaker 16 (36:21):
From the administration in Washington wanting to change the uh,
the district change cycle that we're used to. I mean
it's it's based on the every ten years we do
a census and as.

Speaker 28 (36:37):
A result we get our redistrictange sets so that we
know who the business are that are being represented across
the country and in our state. So wet our districts
based on the sensis every ten years. Well, that was

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done by our indettendent commissions here in California, which is
total representation from the people voting about where they're just
declying to the lieutenants.

Speaker 23 (37:14):
I've done it.

Speaker 16 (37:16):
Twenty well, two thousand and eight to ten. We fought
for this and we wanted and we're proud of it,
and we wanted to go national and top fifties is
our way of saying America, this is good for the
entire country. This is good for all workers across the

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United States, not just Californias.

Speaker 20 (37:41):
And we in the film.

Speaker 16 (37:43):
Industry represented by twelve different districts the prop the United
States and Canada, so we're in every state.

Speaker 29 (37:54):
So when we say fifty needs a yet.

Speaker 16 (37:58):
To vote, we're saying to a yeah, let's have our
voice is cursed let's take it out of the hands
of our politicians and put it in the hands of
the voters.

Speaker 27 (38:10):
In every state in the country.

Speaker 23 (38:13):
So I think.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yet couldn't agree with you more, Betty. Now for the
members one hundred and seventy thousand strong, I actually members,
talk to me about what would happen if it didn't pass.
If these continuation of of you know, awful actions by

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governor of Texas and Abbott and Florida and DeSantis and
the rest of them around the country. And again we'll
be talking with our good friend Greg Palace, the investigative
journalists also based in la Like you, Betty, you know
about all of these voter suppression tactics that the Republicans
are doing. But just give us an idea because it
would affect you know, many people who are part I'M employees,

(39:02):
with those folks who are working in small communities in
the theatrical arena, you know, give us a thought of
what would happen there because you get layoffs. We see
it now with the federal workers. We talked with our
friends at SEIU NAGS National Association of Government Employees and
Lee Blackman about you know, they go from drinking Starbucks

(39:24):
to go into soup lines, so they they lose even
the basics of getting a cup of coffee with you know,
an espresso combo and it cost you five or six bucks.
But now you're in soup lines and this could happen
to your colleagues. Talk to me about that. If that's

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how important Prop fifty is because Republicans came control, and
that's what this whole thing is about. It could be
five seats. Those who are viewing me, I'm putting up
the hand of five five seats, and you can go
to the Jeff Santo Show and watches online and great
stations like KCAA are taking this feed live on air.

(40:10):
But if you are viewing, I'm holding up the hand
five new seats, including some in the area around k
c AA in the Riverside area. Your thoughts, Betty on that, well, you.

Speaker 16 (40:26):
Know, Texas started this.

Speaker 30 (40:30):
Debackle listening to the administration in Missouri and North Carolina
are falling in mind and they're setting the game plans
for all national policies, and we have to step up
to the plate if this is the game they're handing us,
and this is the game that we need to play.

Speaker 16 (40:51):
But in Prop fifty. It is written right. The second
word in the proposition is author right. Tampa rary changes
to constitutional district maths temporary and it does not take
the power away from the Independent Commission. The Independent Commission

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are in agreement with this.

Speaker 27 (41:14):
They're saying, yes, this is temperate.

Speaker 16 (41:16):
This is until twenty thirty and in twenty thirty one
we will go back. It's written right into the propositions.
So we have to protect workers all across the country.
Unions with collective bargaining is the greatest form of democracy

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in practice, and we will lose our democracy. And when
union people talk about democracy, we're talking about our collective voices.
We bargain collectively across the table with our employers so
that our wages reflect.

Speaker 28 (41:55):
The cost of living, increases the quality of life, the
quality of.

Speaker 16 (41:59):
Our unigate, our schools, our infrastructure to make sure that
it's there for us. We send our tax dollars to
the national agenda, and we want to know why those
tax dollars are not coming back to give us infrastructure

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that we need. Why are we being denied by this administration.
Why are the funds that were approved in twenty twenty
four being held and not coming through for education, for science,
for all of our institutions, and those workers and organized labor.

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That's the standards for all these whether their union or
non unions. Not only review workers lose their.

Speaker 27 (42:52):
Security, job security, financial security, food secure, I mean snap,
I mean forty two millions without.

Speaker 16 (43:05):
I mean directed not only on unions, but on all workers.
Are children not having access to food to help them
to be able to study and to learn. Healthcare I
mean if we have a government shutdown based on healthcare
because nobody wants to negotiate about how to fix the

(43:27):
problems with our healthcare system. They want to just stop
funding it. Well, that needs medical bankruptcies. That effects union workers,
that effects all workers. So union workers and.

Speaker 29 (43:43):
Negotiated contracts are collective bargaining sets the standard for all
working people. And Prop fifty we're not ensure that we
protect these workers through the rest of this period of
this administration because we need to be at the table.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
You got about that, Karon of Los.

Speaker 27 (44:07):
Angeles, is if you're if you're.

Speaker 16 (44:09):
Not, if you don't have a seat up the table,
you're on the menu.

Speaker 20 (44:12):
And right now we're on the menu.

Speaker 16 (44:14):
We'll see to be at the table. And five five
five five five, you'll do it.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
If we get Betty Madden International Alliance at Theatrical State Employees.
I'd see. She's been a fantastic spokesperson. I wish you
nothing but the best, Betty. It's so great to have
you on the program, and I really appreciate you spending
time with us today. Thanks to our our good friend

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mister Bussinger for putting this together as well. We thank him.
Betty all the best, and I think we should helpfully
have a big celebration on Tuesday night, not only in
Los Angeles and the great state of California, but across
the country because Prop fifty has to pass to help
the rest of the forty. So thank you so much, Betty.

(45:01):
Appreciate your time and appreciate the opportunity. Good chat. Thank you,
You're welcome. Betty Madden. Here again, folks International Alliance of
Theatrical Stage Employees, i'd see. And the great thing about
this here is that these are union folks that understand
the value of what is happening, not only again for

(45:24):
the state of California, but for the rest of the
country because it affects everybody, even even in the wackadoodle
state of Florida. Yes, Alan Grayson still kicking ass for
the working class. Not no longer unfortunately as a member
of Congress, but lives there, you know, within all the

(45:48):
chaos surrounding him, and a you know, a breath of
fresh air. We talked to our good friend, represented two
different districts in the great city of Orlando, you know,
did so many great things outside of Bernie Sanders past
more legislation from his minority post in the House, and

(46:09):
he is joining us on the phone from FLA. Mister Grayson,
how are you, sir? Happy Friday, Happy Halloween.

Speaker 22 (46:20):
I'm fine. You know, as a person who was in Florida,
I'm not allowed to agree with you. That get that's true.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Okay, okay, I won't refer to it anymore, you know,
because a dear leader won't let me. So all right, Well, anyways,
outside of Florida, there are a lot of people, some
seven million strong, who a few weeks ago, a couple
of weeks ago, marched and said that we don't necessarily
agree with dear leader, and we're making our voices heard

(46:54):
in a non violent, peaceful way. And I think that
if the polls are correct, and you never know, if
they are or not, and who's going to be tinkering
with them? But it looks good in Virginia, it looks
good in New Jersey, looks good in New York City
with Mandani, and it looks good here are there in California,
in Boston of course for Prop fifty Pennsylvania the Supreme

(47:17):
Court races. Who don't know, it's too close, and that
could be another thing that gets dragged out. But this
could be a really good day on November fourth. And
you know we're talking about as we go into New
York City on Monday, into one of the places you
grew up in, in the Bronx, I'm looking at you know,

(47:39):
where do the Democrats come out? How do they come out?
If there are you know, four or five victories. You know,
you win the two governors races in Jersey and Virginia,
you win Mamdani's race, and that I think should give
a lot of fuel to the progressives. You win Prop
fifty in California, That to me, you know, it would

(48:00):
be a sign of strength. If you were advising the DNC,
if you were advising you know, your former colleagues in
the House, how would you try to talk about this
because again, in the case of California's Prop. Fifty, that
helps not only California, that helps the rest of the nation.
There was a five seats that you know, don't get

(48:20):
lost in the shuffle with Texas. You know, voter suppression.
One o one there. Thanks to you, mister Trump and
mister Abbott, the governor, your thoughts about what should be
the plan going forward.

Speaker 22 (48:36):
I think the plan going forward is to say that
the country rejects a mean president. Trump is just relentlessly mean.
He's a nasty, nasty person to everybody, to every female
and the general vicinity, to reporters in the general vicinity. Look,

(48:58):
we we hit The reason why he doesn't have a
dog is because if he had a dog, he'd kicked
the dog. He's just a mean person and that's not
what we want as owner of this country. We started
this year with millions of literally starving children in other
countries losing their food. He saw, he oversaw Elon Musk's

(49:22):
effort to deprive starving children, millions of them of their food.
Now he's bringing that idea home and doing it here
in the United States. He's he's mean toward gays, he's
mean toward the transgender he's mean towards government employees. He's
mean toward Canadians who don't even know what to do,
and you mean toward them, They're not mean at all.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
The commercial raises, the parriffs, I mean, you know, it's
just comical in one way, but in the other way,
so many.

Speaker 22 (49:52):
People, it's just it's just relentless nastiness. And and I
think that needs to be the message, the messages. That's
not who we are now. You remember that Barack Obama
got to be famous and got to be president for
two terms by saying there's not a blue America, there's

(50:13):
not a red America. There's just America. And that needs
to be heard again. Agree, because what we're saying at
this point is the leadership that basically is institutionalized sadism.
The nastier he is, the more fun he has. And

(50:36):
I don't know why any country would put up with that.
How could that?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Well, obviously in a lot of countries don't want any
part of it, and that yeah, I mean that's why
you know, the Canadian government, you know, wants no part
of it. You know, our friends in Europe, you know,
want to stay away. I mean it goes on and
on and on, and this is this is the reality.

(51:02):
This is the reality of the country that we're in.
In twenty twenty five, we're chatting with our good friend
Alan Grayson, a former Democratic member of Congress representing two
different districts in Orlando, a true fighter for the working class.
You know, you you mentioned the government workers is again.
You know, we're gonna look to have our good friend
from sciu and Age. And the line that keeps sticking

(51:24):
with me Alan is this. You go from a line
in Starbucks to a ligne in the soup lines, you know,
the extra few dollars you can spend, you know, five
six bucks on a cappuccino, have treppuccino whatever at Starbucks,
to just figuring out where you're going to get your
next meal. I mean, that's that stress in itself, never

(51:50):
mind the fact that your your tummy is empty, you know,
is enough to kill you. So that's the other thing
that you know that he doesn't care about. He doesn't,
you know, because there's no empathy in him and a
lot of people around him who are yes men and women.
So this is this is where we're at.

Speaker 21 (52:08):
The only.

Speaker 22 (52:10):
Him, right, that's the point at the only joy he
has in life is to applaud himself and to kick
other human beings. That's all he that's all he is,
that's all he does, that's all he is. You know,
we've never really had any in public life like that
in Americas. He is one of the kind and it's

(52:32):
a character test for all of us.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
It certainly is. We're talking with Alan Grayson here on
the Jeff Santo Show. I want to talk to you about,
you know, things that I think that we we really
need to get to the bottom of. And uh, you know,
you were you were famous for talking about health care
and and you know, if you don't give them healthcare,
people die and paraphrasing, And I think that it is

(53:00):
is very important as we look at the you know,
potential cuts to the Affordable Care Act and the subsidies
that give people health care. That's one component. But I
was also in need, you know, and I've been talking
a lot about the pathway of FDR that you know,
to me is a great way to run, you know,
from your home state of New York. Was Roosevelt, the

(53:22):
former governor and the president, of course, and every time
he ran, he won and won handily. It was not
a you know, one of these fifty one forty nine races,
because he understood it, he could communicate it, you know,
those those fireside chats and so forth. I think that's
the avenue. And I think healthcare where there's Medicare for All,
is something like that, some kind of single payer system.

(53:44):
You know, you can make up the name, but it
you know, the version, of course is Healthcare for All,
which is another organization. But your thoughts about this because
this is something you know that affected you personally, and
it's something that of course a lot of the citizens
that you represent and and those south of you in

(54:05):
South Florida large, you know, large, extremely large, massive senior
citizen community. You know that Medicare is important, that Medicaid
goes along with it. Nursing homes, of course, are mainly
paid by medicaid. Talk to me about that, because this
is an issue that I think, you know, obviously in
my opinion, along you could you can throw Social Security

(54:28):
in there too. We had on your former well, your
former colleague, but Martin O'Malley, the former governor of the
Great State of Maryland, and of course now the former
Social Security Commissioner talking to about all the roadblocks they're
putting the Republicans and Trump on front of social security.
Talk to me about that Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and healthcare.

Speaker 22 (54:51):
Your views, well, it's important at the core of politics
many different levels. It's important in part because it illustrates
the fundamental point that there's some problems you just can't
solve on your own, and we need to come together collectively.

(55:13):
As the previous guest was saying, collectively, through collective action
have any hope of solving these things. It's true, for instance,
of the prices you see in the market, what influence
do you have over the the price of a can
of peace? None? The only way to deal with outrageous

(55:33):
price gadging is collectively through the government. Same thing is
true of health care, particularly if you're sick. I mean,
even healthy people can't do much about the cost of healthcare.
Sick people really can't do anything about it. They simply
have to hope they get what they need to stay
healthy and alive. And so it illustrates the important point

(55:57):
that large parts of life are things that you just
can't do anything about yourself. The only hope that you
have to make things better is for people to come
together and make that happen. Now. Also, it's fundamental to
human experience. Every single one of us has gotten sick,

(56:19):
knows what that's like, yes, and it reminds us of
all the things that we have in common. You know,
we start with pretty much the same things in life
unless you're a billionaires child, and we have the same limitations.
And being able to get the healthcare that you need

(56:41):
illustrates to that point. It's part of our common human experience.
It's something that can't help us to bring us together
because everybody has it in their lives, every single one
of us.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Alan Grayson is our good friend. You just have about
a minute left here on the Jeff Santos Show is
a former representative from Orlando in two different districts. We
wrap this up, Allen, and we'll have a longer stint
next week, and of course we'll be coming off of
those elections too, and you'll be heard in New York
City on WGHT AM fifteen hundred as well. So tell

(57:19):
all your family and friends. But I must tell you
in this final minute here, if there is one thing
that you can tell voters in Virginia, New Jersey, and
the signal gets into New Jersey as well, and of
course in California. What would that be.

Speaker 22 (57:42):
That people United can never be defeated. Well, the soul democracy.
It's up to every one of us to do something
about it, to seize power back from the loonies, the crazies,
and to make sure that the system that we've created
to deal with big problems, to deal with human needs,

(58:03):
that that system actually deals with big problems, deals with
our human needs, and doesn't become the play thing of
a crackpot.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah, well, said Alan Grayson, Well said my friend. I
I must tell you we need we need to have
more Alan Grayson's and that is a critical, critical time
right now for for someone like you. I uh look
forward to talking to you next Friday, my friend and

(58:35):
you being heard in the great city of New York.
Thank you, Alan, appreciate you. All right, We're great.

Speaker 22 (58:43):
But I'm going to Disney World.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Oh are you well?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Why not? You're right right next door. We don't talk
on Friday, that'll be. That'll be fine.

Speaker 22 (58:54):
From the Bronx. Yes, happy to happy to be able
to say to speak to you again. But the less
I live in Florida, so I'm going to this world.
It's sixty seven degrees today. This is the coldest it's
been all year.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Well I could, I could use sixty seven. It's about
fifty one today, so actually I think it was sixty one.
But anyways, it's getting cooler here. It's gonna be seventy
five degrees in Orlando over the next two months. So
I'm not going to allow you to come here and
say it's so cold.

Speaker 22 (59:22):
Please.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
That's Alan Grayson, a great friend of the program here
and grew up in New York. He knows about the cold.
We'll talk soon with mister Grayson, but right now we
have a news break. This is the Jeff Santo Show.
We say goodbye to Alan, and we welcome the news
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The Jeff Santo Show, I believe we have our guest Kevin.

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
All right? Fantastic? Well, talk about k C A A
and the South Bay of Los Angeles and so forth.
Of course, Uh, you know Sofi Field where the Rams
and Chargers play, and the NFL Network is located right
there too, and that's where we find our good friend.
He is a fantastic anchor, not only an anchor, but

(01:09:25):
a great journalist, uh for the NFL Network and uh
in general. Patrick Clayburne joins us from Los Angeles Metro. Patrick,
great to have you on, my friend. How are you.

Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
Are you you spoiling your two kinds, Jeff, Yes, glad
to be here uh in the in the beautiful South
Bay of Los Angeles and spend spending time with you
and your listeners. So it's always it's always a welcome opportunity.
So thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Oh no, no, no, thank you, And it's it's always, uh,
it's always a pleasure to have you on and the
MI abridge because we get an insight not only in
the NFL, but a lot about social issues that go
around the professional sports leagues and so forth. Well, I
want to start out with I'm just trying to think
of the impact if you've had a chance to talk
to NFL players about what happened last week with the NBA,

(01:10:17):
and let me just start this out by saying this.
You know, the administration brought out the FBI director. You know,
they made a big thing of this. And I'm not
saying that. I'm not a fan of gambling at all
in professional sports of any sports for that matter, but
you know, you pick out two African American players, one
a coach actually a retired player in Billips and Rosier,

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and I'm not I'm not condoning what they did, but
you know, it just seems to me that, you know,
there's this focus, you know, of all the people on
two people of color. And you know, again I don't
condone what they did and whether they're white, brown, you know, Asian, whatever,
but I just think that there is something here and say, well,
you know, well, you know, look look at look at

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who did this. You know, it's that kind of thing.
I'm wondering how NFL players react, because say, well, you
know they're going to come after us. Now you know
we're are we next? You know, there's a lot of
African Americans to play in the NFL. Obviously in Major
League Baseball too, to a lesser extent. I'm just wondering
how this impact plays because it you know, it's it's

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in every sport, you know. I think the the ability
to you know, potentially make extra money, you know, and
you're still playing, and you know, there are a lot
of retired players making the commercials. Because I don't know
if the if the actual you know, NBA or our

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players can do that. Probably contractual they're not allowed. But
I'm just wondering how this has impacted you know, your
your contacts with NFL players to start with, Well.

Speaker 8 (01:12:00):
I think, first of all, Jeff, to your original point,
and I don't I don't think it's something that because
you know, you use several caveats, and I think that
it's important to people they understand the clarity there. To
be skeptical of America's criminal legal system is a worthwhile endeavor.
To be skeptical the Federal Bureau of Investigation prior right
to twenty to twenty sixteen is a worthwhile endeavor. I

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think it's perfectly normal to be exceedingly skeptical of Donald
Trump's Federal Bureau of Investigation, regardless of the activity it
takes part in. But with regard to you know, the
NFL and gambling, its relationship with gambling partners, it's a
very extensive, you know, set of onboarding practices, set of

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learning practices that everybody in the league goes through players, ourselves,
in NFL media ownership, people with tangential relationships with the
league to understand the league's gambling policy and to the
extent that there's several practices that people would think were mundane, uh,
that that folks would never even consider. And so you know,

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involvement in you know, the the you know, the type
of allegations that are going on here, I think you know,
everybody would understand that it's prohibited. But but you know,
to your to your other you know, question regarding the
specter of uh, you know, enhanced investigation upon you know,

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prominent people of color. I think that's a that's a
pretty standard, uh a standard perception, whether it be you know,
you're you're driving around in a neighborhood and a car
that's too nice, or you're about to make a decision
with regards to you know, a gambling advertisement. But you know,
the the slow, the slow and steady creek, which you

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could say was neither slow nor study of gambling into
the sports world to where we have major broadcasters who
are directly linking with with books themselves. I think from
from outside of perspectives it can look very, very cloudy,
but the lines are very clearly drawn with regards to
the league and what's allowed and what's not allowed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Well, I'm glad you're reinforcing that because I think, to
someone who doesn't cover the sport like you do on
a daily basis, it's good to hear. It's good to
hear as I sit down on Sunday and watch the
NFL games and my favorite NFL teams, that we know
that there is a lot of guardrails, which is important,
and I'm hoping that the NBA can can learn from

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this and learn from what the NFL is doing in
other sports too. Of course, we have the Otani thing
happen was two years ago now and uh In with
his interpreter gambling, So you know, it's out there and
it's it's you know again, people of color and Asian American,

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but I think it's it just goes to show you
that the amount of money that is around professional sports,
you know, it's it's just insane. And again I'm glad
that the players are now making more than ever before.
But you know, I I think back to the first
few years of Jackie Robinson in Brooklyn and there's some

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greeny black and white photograph, uh and video, I guess
a film back then of him walking down the streets
of Brooklyn, and I think he was going to a
part time job, you know, because it's either off season
or maybe it was, uh, you know, in spring training
or whatever. And I just can't imagine that for a
lot of you know, professional athletes today because thankfully, player

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agents and you know, the folks that run you know
the great uh well, the the folks like uh that
that started MLB's player agency. I'm thinking of the steel
Workers Union, uh president and who know, basically change sports

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in the nineteen seventies. And it to me it's we're
better off and the players are better off. But it's
amazing what we went to when from you know, where
you got to find a second job and then you
go out and tackle somebody, or you go out and
you know, shoot baskets or or hit of baseball. I

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find that, you know, just amazing. Again, it's a long
time ago, you know, neither one of us were born
in nineteen forty seven, but I find it's it's really
fascinating to see where it is gone and the amount
of money in the sports Again, this is not breaking news,
but it is it is an amazing amount of money
that is changing hands and that obviously always raises an

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eyebrow or two. Are your colleagues at all, you know,
the in Los Angeles, you know that you associate with,
whether they cover the Lakers or the Clippers or any
other sport, do they sort of think, well, you know,
should we do more investigation of this? Is that at
all coming into the minds of fellow journalists that you

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communicate with.

Speaker 8 (01:17:10):
With regards to, you know, the the capacity for investigative journalism,
I think nationwide, not just in the sports world, but
you know, he go to local stops where there's there's
been a really a general disinvestment I think in the
enterprise and a lot of place because the investigative journalism
is expensive and a lot of times it's extensive and

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more ways than one, because when you follow the money,
you you eventually find your way to a sponsor in
many cases, especially especially locally, and so there's there's a
couple of ways that that it could it can cost you.
And so I think, you know, as as you know,
the forces of capital, you know, acquire more and more power.

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You know, investigative journalism has taken a hit, but there
are folks who are who are looking into any number
of business practices. I think Pabulatory has done an incredible
job with regards to you know, investigating multiple leagues and associations,
and there's people doing the work, but it's it's a
little bit harder to sort through and find that work

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because folks are doing it independently. You know, there's there's
like the wide left establishment of run by a Resissan,
formerly of the Athletic. He's done some great work, but
you know he's operating on his own now after the
you know, the New York Times has gone through about
the Athletic mads and changes, and so it's a little

(01:18:39):
bit harder to get your hands on some of the
investige of journalism that that we normally used to have
access to all over the place. I like to think
that Woodward and Bernstein would have.

Speaker 32 (01:18:51):
Been writing for some design in twenty twenty five as
as opposed to you know, having the full support of
the Post. Where different landscape and it's it's one that's
a little more antagonistic not just to investigate the journalism,
but to the people that that journalism would serve.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
In the first lice, we're talking to Patrick Claiban here
on the Jeff Santo Show again, the anchor of the
NFL Network, a fantastic journalist and has become a contributor
on a monthly, bi monthly, maybe even weekly basis as
we move forward here on the Jeff Santo Show. And again,
folks who are in case aaam ten fifty, you know

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you're the signal gets into that neck of the woods.
So give us a shout again at a three three
five four five five three three three if you're an
NFL fan, if you're a sports fan and you have
something to say on this issue, would love to hear
from you, you know. Coming up after you, actually is
another Los ANGELESO who is an investigative journalist I used
to work with The Guardian and a number of other publications.

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That's Greg Palace on the issue of voter suppression, which
is something that we need to find out more about,
particularly right now as California is voting on Prop fifty.
The the thing that I have to tell you, uh
is that the journalists like yourself who can comment on

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social issues. Is is so important, uh, to connect the
dots to to to the real America. And I think
that is where we're really at. And you know, it's
it's still good to find out, you know, what's going
on in the NFL. But there are things going on,
you know, just today, I believe an African American general manager,

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uh In Greer, Uh you separated from the NFL. Now
this is this is interesting because the coach McDaniel was
roomored to be fired. He's a white man. And I'm
not saying this is racially motivated, you know, but there
was this whole thing with mister Flora as of course,
and in in Miami. So I wonder about all of that,

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you know. Of course, you know, one of the one
of the worst things that we saw, I guess it
was this spring, maybe it was last spring at one
of the exhibition games or preseason games, was the wide
receiver Hill being manhandled by by police outside the stadium.
So there's a lot of chaos down there now in Miami.

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What do you what do you make of this? And
what are what are the folks in Miami telling you
who cover the team about You know, this is usually
not the case. Usually the coach is the one that
gets fired. The general manager usually is safer, particularly in
the middle of the season. What what are you hearing
about that situation?

Speaker 8 (01:21:42):
Well, I mean, there's any number of ways to delve
into this circumstance. In Miami, I think early on season
reports from our reporter Camera Wolf does a great job
down there covering the Dolphins, was that this this season
was not something that should have high hopes considering the
way that the team was preparing you were coming into

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the season. Chris care has been there for for a while,
a significant a good amount of time, and I think
the best way for me to describe my perception of
Chris Career is a lot of times, your job in
the NFL is to keep your job. Yeah, and you
do that, but you know, appeasing, appeasing the whims of
the person who signs the checks, and so in many situations,

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like I would say, Miami is definitely one, Cleveland is
definitely another, where you know, you facilitate that relationship. It
goes any number of ways into ultimately you're oulser and
and Mike McDaniel out was actually he identifies as as biracial.
He fell into the league's minority hiring status, and so

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we uh, you know, for now, right is the head
coach of the Miami Dolphins. Judging by you know, the
crowd reaction last night, you would imagine that something was
going to change in Miami. But the one thing that
has been consistent in terms of the you know, uh,
the lack of success that they've had for the better

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part of twenty years, he's going to remain the same.
And so it's a in the the Tyreek Kill incident,
the way Kalais Campbell responded, you know, an incredible man,
an incredible teammate showing up for because I honestly, I
don't think Kalais Campbell would have just done that for
Tyreek Hill. I think if he was passing anybody who

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was being assaulted by police, he was stopped and gotten out.
I think that's the type of person that he is.
But but that scenario I think isn't exemplary of Miami.
I think it's exemplar of the United States of America.
And you know, sad institution of police's relationship with the

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citizen ry here and so that you know, that's that
that's anywhere. But with regards to the team and the
way that they proceed. It's it's tough to know, but
but it's all it's all going to emanate from the
person who ultimately makes the decisions, and we'll see what
kind of power they give the people underneath them to
change the circumstances there. And I'm not too hopeful.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
Well it's it's it's it's going to be interesting. Uh
you know, it just it just pops into your mind
because you know, his brother is again the Anose Sharks.

Speaker 22 (01:24:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
I think he's the only African American who is a
general manager in the NHL. And you know because his father,
I believe, was the GM of the Patriots for a
short time. So you know, this is interesting. And again
because it connects the dots to the floor is to
you know, one of the African American head coaches in
the league. And uh, now is I still think he's

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defensive coordinating with the Vikings, right, So if you have
all that, it just you know, it just seems like, wow,
all of this is going on. But all right, let's
let's just and in these last couple of minutes here,
let's look at the fact that there's now a lot
of people who are looking at what the Ravens did

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last night led by an African American quarterback and Jackson
coming back from an injury. Are they now back at
a you know, along with Buffalo and Kansas City's rebirth
if you might. Of course, the Patriots are playing well
as well. Are the Colts? Not sure if either one
of them are going to be Super Bowl contenders at

(01:25:40):
this point, but you know, Baltimore, you know is there,
They got the quarterback, they have a coach who's won
a Super Bowl? What do you make of the Ravens
and after last night's victory, you know, it was really
that close. Are they back as a potential super Bowl
contender in five? Yes? Right now?

Speaker 8 (01:26:02):
Yeah, at this point, Jeff, there's reason to be confident
in their capacity. They have a two time MVP that
I would argue should have three MVP awards and would
agree with that. Now, it's still completing, he's completing ninety
percent of his passes when they run play action. He's
continually to do things that we haven't seen at the
quarterback position. The question becomes they still have some issues

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up front with regard to protection because he's he generates
explosive plays at a rate that has never been done
before in the league, and a lot of that comes
from him holding onto the ball and so in especially
last year, you saw the offensive lot have the capacity
to facilitate him doing that. This year it's gone either way.

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But as long as eight is on the field for
the Baltimore Ravens, I think they have a shot. But
you look around the league, Chuck Clark is elsewhere, Patrick
Queen is playing fairly well on a defense that's underperforming
in Pittsburgh. Guys like Jalen armor Davis or elsewhere, I
think he would still be useful on the team league

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Harris and JK. Dobbins, Gus Edwards. There's a proliferation of
this generation of Ravens that's now gone elsewhere as the
team has tried to get younger. In some spots where
there's there's there's some cause for concern, but no no
team that's ever been in contention has been perfect, and
we've seen teams overcome overcome a lot, and considering where

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they are, I think it's not out of the realm
of possibility. It's a long way to go. And this
is a Dolphins franchise that had fans with bags over
their heads and fired their GM on a on a
Friday morning, right, So I think he can celebrate the wins,
he can't apologize for it. But there's there's still a
long way to go a lot of football, and especially

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when you look at two teams like Buffalo in Kansas
City that are playing this week that haven't you know,
have those significant setbacks to see where they need to
get back to. But there's if eighth on the field.
Baltimore has it yet.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Yeah, no, I agree with you. It's the most electrifying
player along with Patrick Mahomes in the the league has
And you know there's also you know, Washington's Daniels coming
back to this week and another guy that it's amazing
to watch. I just think that, you know, it is

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is good to see athletes being able to be athletes.
You know here in in in the great of Boston area,
you know they're they're always hesitant about, oh, Drake may Candy,
you shouldn't run too much. Let the athlete be the athlete.
I mean, if if any if Mahomes has proved anything
is that you know, you put the ball in his
hands and whether he runs it or he throws it,

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or he underhands it, whatever the case may be. You know,
you're usually they succeed at getting the first down or
potentially a touchdown. So I look at the same way
with a lot of these quarterbacks, many of them you know,
African American people of color that have that ability. I
got thirty seconds your final thoughts.

Speaker 22 (01:29:18):
Yeah, I think a.

Speaker 8 (01:29:20):
Lot of folks, especially in that market, got kind of
spoiled by watching a quarterback operate from the pocket for
more than twenty years, and he was a generationally gifted
athlete in it his own way. And somebody like Drake
may Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes like they all have these
unique play styles that far too often in the past

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folks had to, you know, create this archetype instead of
allowing them to be the uniquely gifted athlete that they are.
And so I'm glad that our quarterback picture looks the
way that it does, and we have so many different
guys who do it so many different ways. It's intratings
we can celebrate about our league.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Thank you, my friend, always great chatting with you. Look
forward to our next one. Have yourself a great weekend.
Thank you you sure, Jeff, Thanks Pator take care man
will be watching you this weekend.

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Thursday night football, Lamar Jackson back after missing three games
with a hamstering injury, through four touchdown as the Ravens
took down the Dolphins twenty eight to six in Miami.
Head coach John Harbaugh on Jackson's return, I'm.

Speaker 24 (01:31:07):
Proud of him. I'm proud of the way he came
out and played, you know, and proud of the way
Tyler played last week. Both those two guys played. Want
Te Martin deserves a lot of credit. You know he
did a great job with those guys and Monk and
the offensive coaches.

Speaker 9 (01:31:18):
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and seven. NBA thunder crushed the Wizards by nineteen improved
to six and oh. Victor Webbin Yama dropped in twenty
six grapped eighteen boards to help the Spurs beat the
Heat for their first five and oh starting franchise history.
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their next manager. He becomes a youngest skipper in the
league since nineteen seventy two, and the Blue Jays looking
for their first World Series title in over three decades
when they played the Dodgers snight in Game six in Toronto.
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Thirty three minutes past the hour. It is the Jeff
Santo Show that you are tuned into. Coming to you
lie from the South coast in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
We'll be talking with Greg Pallace, investigative journalist. Fantastic understanding
of what is going on in the world of trump
Land and voter suppression, what's happening in Texas. Why it's

(01:33:59):
so important to pass Prop fifty to give the Democrats
a fair chance to win back the House in twenty
twenty six, and of course have a level plane feel
which the Republicans want to have a playing field that
only is good for them and only good for Donald Trump.
And that's why it's so critically important for Prop fifty.

(01:34:21):
We're going to be talking with Greg Pallace momentarily getting
the video connection hooked up, and we'll be talking with him.
As I said, in a couple of minutes, I want
to make a point and how all these things relate.
You know, a good friend Patrick clay but and I
make the point that he is more than just a
sports journalist and anchor at the NFL network. He mentioned

(01:34:42):
that we need more investigative journalists. This is a really
an important piece of the profession that I went to
as journalism major at Northeastern. You know, I went to
a different route after graduation. But the point is is
that it is incredibly important for this country to have
good investigative journalism, to support the major anchor papers in

(01:35:06):
New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the
LA Times, and so forth. A lot of the ownerships
of these major major corporations, you know, they're they're they're
all you know. Some of them are in Bedwood Trump.
Some of them are too scared or Trump. They don't
want to do anything, you know, I mean this is Halloween,
you know, we you know, but you know, you don't
have to be scared. What did FDR say? Have nothing

(01:35:27):
to fear but fear itself? So there you go. I
think it is important to support your papers. You know,
I get delivery of of a couple of newspapers. I
try to support, you know, the local media as much
as I can. I think it is also important, uh

(01:35:49):
to to support you know, organizations. We'll be talking to
Alex Siteswald, who was an MSNBC political reporter for a
number of years. They've got a lot of changes there
over the years. So Alex is now working for a
publication in Camden, Maine, but two three hours I think

(01:36:10):
north of Portland, Maine. And it's it's the love of
journalism that has actually made it clear of what is
at stake. And you know, we're going to see if
you know, there is a possibility here, you know, to

(01:36:32):
see more of that, more of these small, small papers
and so forth. We are attempting to reach Greg Pallace
and hopefully we can get that going on. Kevin, I'll
be sending you an alternative number as well in a
matter of a few seconds. One thing that I want

(01:36:54):
to say, and I want to bring our good friend
Tom John back in with us in a minute. But
one of the areas that I think is important is
to be able to have and have it to a
point where you know, a lot of people don't understand,

(01:37:16):
you know, what what it takes to be an investigative journalist.
I mean you're risking your life in some cases. In
other cases you are, you know, trying to find a
source that will say something on the record. You know,
of course Craig does a lot of video work, so

(01:37:38):
he's actually going to people's homes sometimes, you know, with
camera and they don't necessarily always welcome him, as you
have found out a number of his films, So you
know there's that component to it as well. And you know,
in these these are real, real issues, and it's it's
very sad, very sad that you know, we are in

(01:38:03):
a state where there that's not value. It needs to
be valued and frankly, if it, if it doesn't get done,
then we are in a in a very very bad,
uh you know, situation. So we're hoping that that gets

(01:38:24):
taken care of and and hopefully it is it is done.
Just that, just heads up, We're going to uh send
this to uh to Freddie Kevin and hopefully between both
of you you can you can get a hold of
Greg all right.

Speaker 34 (01:38:45):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
One of the other pieces of the puzzle that I
think is important as we move and keep talking about
what happens if the Democrats win in places like California,
win in places like New Jersey, and of course our
friends in Virginia too, and Mandani in New York City,

(01:39:08):
and we'll be talking to some folks on Monday about
that race. Her boy did a little bit yesterday.

Speaker 22 (01:39:15):
So you know.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
The fact is is that if you get these big
wins for the Democrats, it says that their message is working,
but doesn't mean that they have to stop there and
they have to do more. They got to come on
my show as one example, particularly now as we're in
New York in LA they need to move lightning speed
quick to capture that momentum. If there is you don't

(01:39:41):
know what's going to happen. I mean, these are all
based on polls and a lot of research that goes
into it. But if that they need to come out
flying and they need to identify that mister Trump does
not have your back, that the Republican Party does not
have your back, and the Democrats do. And you got
to illustrate what it is that you have succinctly communicate

(01:40:02):
that message on the issues of you know, getting back
to work, keeping your health care, a number of issues,
a number of issues that are really important. I think that,
to me, will be a fabulous thing if they can
do that, and we look forward to having on mister Martin,
the DNC and other leaders in the Democratic Party going forward.

(01:40:25):
All right, Kevin, I'm not sure where we are with
with Greg Pallace, but if we can bring our good
friend John up on the line, that would be fantastic
as well as we try to reach Greg on the
on the line. Hopefully we can do just that. I

(01:40:46):
want to I want to say that for so many Americans,
you know, when they look at the lines that they
look at with people, you know, who were making decent
salaries and government workers now and they're in soup lines,
that that has to strike a chord. Regardless if you're
a union member or you're an anti union, non union,

(01:41:09):
you know whatever. If you don't have any empathy, then
really you got to examine yourself and that you know
this ideay, Oh you'll pull yourself up all your bootstraps
and you gotta make more money and you shouldn't be
in a union job and all this other garbage. It's
really garbage with the capital G. And this is how
some people, you know, give themselves an out because they

(01:41:33):
hear it from Trump and they hear it, you know,
amplified on on Fox and other right wing outlets, and
this is what ends up happening. This is what ends
up happening, and that is, you know, really unfortunate. All right,
let's go to John in Minnesota. John, Welcome back, my
friend John in Minneapolis.

Speaker 21 (01:41:57):
Yes, yeah, I wanted to say, it's almost an impossible
thing to be able to pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

Speaker 8 (01:42:06):
If I had any I don't think you could do it.

Speaker 20 (01:42:11):
It's an it's an impossible thing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
And uh So anyway, but.

Speaker 21 (01:42:19):
Yeah, I mean we need to as a party. I think,
you know, focus on healthcare, childcare, uh, things that you
know are getting to help people. Unionization, you know, all
of the things that will help working class and middle

(01:42:41):
class people. Uh, to support them, and that's a winning ticket. Uh,
it is not a winning ticket.

Speaker 22 (01:42:49):
Uh, you know, to.

Speaker 21 (01:42:50):
Support the top one percent, two percent, or even the
top ten percent, this is a losing you know. You know,
like I think Chuck Schumer once said, you know, we'll
get all the soccer moms in the suburbs. We don't
need the working class anymore. I mean, essentially, I'm paraphrasing,

(01:43:11):
but I mean that's one of the most ridiculous statements
I've ever heard. Because you can count the numbers, it
just doesn't add up. The successful party has to support
the working class, in the middle class, that's the bulk
of the electorate.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
So yeah, no, you know, I mean, yes, that is
the book of the electric And I think as we
were talking yesterday with our good friend Jim Roosevelt, you know,
the alliance that the Democrats need to move forward on
was created in early twenty twenty one. It was created
because Bernie Sanders gave of himself, took himself out of

(01:43:50):
the race since beginning of the pandemic, and made an
alliance with Joe Biden that gave us the American Rescue
Plan yep. And that American Rescue Plan gave checks to people,
it gave them access to more health care to help
people who were being thrown out of their apartments. If
you remember, I believe there was money in there to

(01:44:10):
to help housing and they and eventually let it you know,
time out, which is insane. But you know, I remember
one of the congress people actually was on the steps
of the White House, you know, trying to protest that
potential cutback. And you know, there is, there is, in
my opinion, so many you know, scenarios here that Democrats

(01:44:36):
can go back to. Again. I keep going to the
FDR roadmap, but you can go back to where Sanders
and Biden came together, and you know that should be
that should be part of how mom Donnie is treated
after he wins the election, hopefully on Tuesday the fourth,
and again we look to have him on now that
we're on in New York City starting on Monday at

(01:44:56):
three pm Eastern time. That that to me is is
the is the way to do it. I mean, it's
the blueprints are here. It's not like we have to
reinvent the wheel. You know, Democrats and progressives have been
able to merge together. You know, they did the same
thing in two thousand and eight with Obama. I mean,
Howard Dean, you know, the progressive from oh four and

(01:45:17):
you know, became the chair of the Democratic Party in
six fifty state strategy. Whila Obama comes in. You know,
he wins up sixty Senate seats. You know it was
of course Bush destroyed the country economically and in the
war in Iraq on top of it, so you know,
you had a chance for a major change. But I
think it's all there. And you know, I mean you've

(01:45:39):
seen it firsthand, you know in Minnesota with a lot
of progressive leaders, your governor and Walls, and of course
going back a bunch of years ago with Paul Wellstone,
you know, Keith Ellison, you know you have You've had
quite a few and now maybe potentially a new mayor.
I hope that happens. So you know, it's it's there.
And miss Omar as well, you're congress person. So I mean,

(01:46:01):
these are these are all you know, game changers in
forms of Democrats. And of course you've had a lot
of on line folks that were also you know, establishment folks,
but were reformers, whether it's talking about Humphrey or Mondale
or you know some of the more moderate folks that
go back. So Minnesota has led the way in so

(01:46:23):
many in so many ways, and hopefully that the Democrats
understand this and and don't get you know, behind corporate Democrats.
You know, we know who they are. Some of them
have left the party, thank god, like Mansion and Cinema.
But you know that that to me, that's poison if
you follow people like that. You see what's happened with

(01:46:43):
with Bench and running third party. You see now happen
what happened to Andrew Cuomo with a great legacy, his
father was a great governor, would have been a great president,
you know, but you see what he's done. He's trashing
a fantastic upcoming star in this kind of Tree and
Mom Donnie uh and he left the Democratic Party. You
know what does what does that show?

Speaker 8 (01:47:04):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:04):
I mean, this is the same thing with Joe Lieberman
for a while in Connecticut. You can go on and
on and on a lot of these corporate Democrats. It's
just you know, that's that's their way, you know, I mean,
what do they stand for?

Speaker 10 (01:47:16):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Themselves? Really when that gets down to it. But no,
I think Minnesota is a is a fantastic, uh fantastic place.
Thank you, John, appreciate uh, you know you're bringing us
up on that. I want to talk about another thing too,
folks again, if you want to call in eight three

(01:47:36):
three five four five five three three three is the
phone number to join us. And I think one of
the other areas that is incredibly important here for the
the Democratic Party to take a look at is you

(01:47:57):
need to to think seriously about where you spend your money,
you know, across the country. And if we could lower
John's Mike Kevin, that would be great too. But this
is this is an important part of the puzzle, you know,
because if you go ahead and make sure that the

(01:48:23):
Democratic Party is exciting young people gen Z millennials, but
also you know, keeping people who have been you know,
labor Democrats, civil rights democrats for years, these are tremendously
important areas. And our good friend Mail Poindexter will tell

(01:48:43):
you that you know, time and time again, and we
we are at a point right now where if you
if you don't have that as an underlying foundation to
bring younger people into the party, to understand what is
at stake in this election and in twenty twenty six,

(01:49:04):
and we're saving the country, we're saving democracy. These are
things that you need to be able to have, and
it is incredibly important, incredibly important that there is this
situation Democrats look at and say, all right, we have
these these pillars on healthcare, on education, on the economy,

(01:49:27):
and if we don't do this, we don't do this,
then we're going to, in my opinion, have a major,
major problem, you know, winning elections in twenty six and
twenty eight and going forward. You do that and you're
in good shape. All right. Now, we're going to try

(01:49:49):
to get our good friend John Bussinger with us here
and going to send that number to you, Kevin in
a matter of seconds. Looks like Greg Palace will not
be able to join us due to his location is
not receiving a sell number and therefore we can't set

(01:50:12):
up that connection, and so we're going to change plans again. Folks.
We're talking with the Bruce Springsteen cover band. Folks, Tom
and mister Santa coming up at about five oh six.
Mark Taylor Canfield will be with us at about five thirty.
So we're going to try to see if we can
get our good friend John Bussinger on the show with

(01:50:33):
us in the next couple of minutes. Again, I sent
that information to you, mister Kevin. Just another point here.
What has happened, you know, Again we've talked about the
video and audio interview that we did with Lee Blackman

(01:50:55):
of the of Sciunage. In my opinion, this is a
major development in getting the American people to hear that
the workers who work for the federal government of these
United States go from the Starbucks line to the soup line.

(01:51:16):
That could happen to anybody, regardless if you're a union worker,
regardless if you are you know, working in the private enterprise,
you know, working for you know, the billionaire class. You
know that that employee people at Amazon, fourteen thousand people
being laid off at Amazon dot com. So there's all

(01:51:36):
of these scenarios, and you know, in my view, if
if you understand what is that stake, what is that
stake right now, then you should be active. You should
be joining your local food bank. Join if you're if
you go to church on a regular basis, you know

(01:51:58):
there there are a lot of food drives emanating from
churches and you know, all of those things, and that
is what is is really important. All right, We're going
to join in a second here by our good friend,
UH the uh thirty years in the state legislature representing Brookline.
He is of course a regular on the Jeff Santo Show.

(01:52:20):
Our good friend John Bussinger steps in here. We wanted
to bring you in John the last second. We had
one of our investigative journalists, Greg Palace, in a bad zone,
so we wanted to get your thoughts on some of
the developments of the day. So I thank you for
taking time out of your busy data to give us
some thoughts. One of the things, of course, is this

(01:52:43):
the judges in Rhode Island and Massachusetts making it clear
that they believe that those who are you know, in charge,
mister Trump, needs to give them needs to continue the
snap benefits. This is something I know you fought for
for so many people. Just give them, you know, basic

(01:53:04):
needs to feed themselves. And again, we talked to our
friends at Neede s CiU s CiU in needs the
other day, and you know they go from the Starbucks
line to the soup lines. This is something that I
think is so important to bring it out and I
think it's incredibly important John as a legislator to understand

(01:53:26):
the importance of getting the Democrats in Congress to keep
talking about this issue. Your thoughts. Thank you for coming on.

Speaker 23 (01:53:34):
What hypocrasy speak with. Johnson said they can't do it
because they're legally restrained from doing constraint from doing it.
And he said that it really was upsetting to Trump
that they couldn't do it.

Speaker 22 (01:53:46):
Give me a break.

Speaker 23 (01:53:47):
Now we'll see the hypocracy. It's full broom if the
appeal the ruling for the orders. But the fact is,
if they wanted to do it, I think they could
have done it. They don't want to do it. They
wanted to inflict pain, their whole ideas of pain. And
then they have the gall as for a clean cr
based on one big, dirty, ugly bill hunting medicaid, hunting

(01:54:12):
snap benefits, and I don't know if that was in
the bill.

Speaker 20 (01:54:15):
I think it was in the bill.

Speaker 23 (01:54:18):
They have we have to expose them to the American
people and people on Tuesday wherever this is relevant, in California,
on Proposition fifty or anywhere else, New Jersey, New York City, Virginia,
go out and say no to this.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Whole gang so true. They don't you know, our our friends,
they don't care. Our friends at CNN are showing the
fact that the Trump administration has put in new bathrooms
and photos of his Lincoln bathroom remodel. But yet people
who are you know, starving off of snap benefits, they

(01:54:56):
don't get anything. And this is this is you know,
it's just connected to just let them eat cake mentality.
And you know it's it's so sad and disgusting all
at the same time that we're facing right exactly.

Speaker 23 (01:55:11):
This is the twenties wretchored excess all over again.

Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
Yep, it's Great Gatsby Part two on steroids, you know,
I mean, it's it's disgusting and deplorable all in one.
And you know, uh, those words are are really relevant
right now. Talking with our good friend John Bussinger. The
phone number to join us eight three three five four

(01:55:35):
five five three three three In case those who are
expecting to hear from Greg Palace today, we could not
reach them to some areas of his cell phone service.
He is in an area that we couldn't get any
cell service, so therefore we couldn't reach them. Hope to
get Greg palace back sometime in the next couple of weeks.
But we are chatting with our good friend John Bussinger again,

(01:55:56):
the advocate for the North South Station reil link and
thirty years in the state legislate. John, he got a
couple of minutes here, and we want to get your thoughts,
uh in the importance of rail to this country. You know,
the people listening to us today on KCAA AM ten
fifty and on on on tape delay in both the

(01:56:18):
San Francisco and LA KBC and KSFO, and it will
be on New York on Monday on AM fifteen hundred
in New York City. All of those places are dealing with,
you know, expanding and putting money, both federal money and
state money into rail. Again, we're talking about a mile

(01:56:39):
mile and a half between North Sess and North Station
and South Station. You know, it's not a you know,
a trillion dollars to do this, and it's it's minding,
it's it's really I can't I can't think of the
word except say ridiculous that it hasn't been done. And
you've been doing this for a good thirty years, if

(01:57:02):
not more. And Governor Ducacas two on the North South
South rail. Where are we We see what's happening the
building a line between California and between la and San Francisco.
We see the lines in New York City for the
extension of one of the subway lines. You know, even

(01:57:24):
though Curtis Lee was against it, you know, I mean
it did. The people who are against that usually are
the people who really have no concern about the average
uh New York or the average American. But your thoughts
about the state of rail today and against Trump is
all about privatization.

Speaker 23 (01:57:42):
Your thoughts, Well, unfortunately the Secretary Duffy opposed because he's
in Wisconsin and Walker Shaw as a Republican area not
as much as used to be. He opposed the terrain
from Milwaukee to Madison when earlier ten years ago, think
Obama was president of the time, I opposed that train.

(01:58:05):
He says, a family of five wants to take a
car ride for the vacation. Well that's true, but it
doesn't mean he has to be against rail. The fact
is we need Democratic Party back in power because they
understand the importance of rail. The Republicans don't even know.
A lot of white colored Republicans use commuter rail and
the national corridors, you know, like the Northeast Corridor and

(01:58:26):
the corridors around the country.

Speaker 12 (01:58:29):
But they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
They don't, they don't.

Speaker 23 (01:58:31):
They're not a pro rail group, and we have to
speak out in favor of rail because it's a component.
There's nothing against the use of cars. They have their
own place. But we have to remember that there's big
cities that we need to help for in the transit side,
and inter passenger rails between the cities is very important.

(01:58:52):
And I don't think that Trump, even though he had
Infrastructure Week every week and stress of administration and was
it the profit making thing Trump, I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
I neither do exactly he does it. John, thank you
for so much for coming on. We really appreciate you
doing just that. And thank you and thank you for
helping organize Miss Betty Madden as well, who was on today.
We know your your family is involved with that great
union as well at I see, Thank you man. We'll

(01:59:22):
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In activism and supporting the middle class. Now here's Jeff.

Speaker 4 (02:06:52):
Day's omor three other Jeff Santo Show and welcome to
olk comany live from the South coast here in the
common Wealth of Massachusetts. And again shout out to all
of our friends listening today in Los Angeles, California KCAA
AM ten fifty and of course on tape delay KABC

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in Los Angeles as well as KSFO and San Francisco.
We will be adding not only our friends in Boston
at WCAPAM nine eighty, but on Monday we start in
New York and New Jersey. Very excited about that. On
AM fifteen hundred. It emanates out of the Ridgewood Patterson

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area of northern New Jersey and gets into New York City.
We're so excited because it gets into Manhattan and the
Bronx and other parts of the New York City suburbs,
and well, it didn't actually start this way, but this
is sort of a celebration in a lot of ways
of going into New York and New Jersey. We have
not Bruce Springsteen himself, but pretty close to it. Yes,

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they're called Saints in the City. They are fantastic Bruce
Springsteen cover band. Yours truly had a chance to see
them at a festival here in Massachusetts back in August.
They are a fantastic group. Folks who are going to
play some music from them momentarily and I want to
bring them on. Some are with us via video. Some

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are on the phone. Tom Visconte, who's been the manager
and the director of all of this, is the drummer
of the band, and he joins us right there with
his glasses on. Then of course Robert Santo lead vocals.
How you doing, Tom in harmonica? I mean this guy

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and only looks like Bruce Springsteen, and I mean he
he exudes all of it. It's just amazing. The lead singer,
Christopher Duvall is the saxon, keyboards and vocals, Matt Kuttner's
keyboards and vocals, and Danny Weltman is guitar and vocals
as well, and some of them are on audio and

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so forth. Tom, I want to start with you here.
You know you brought these folks together. How did you
you want to start this? What made you start this band?

Speaker 19 (02:09:13):
How did it?

Speaker 4 (02:09:14):
You know, did this all of a sudden You started
playing with the guy at one of the bars in
Jersey and everything came to play. How did it start?

Speaker 11 (02:09:22):
Well? I've been friends with Chris Stuval, the sacks and
organ player, since we were eleven, so playing in various
bands over the years. About fifteen years ago, you know,
we sat down and realized that, you know, there was
a million bar bands and everybody's playing the same music.

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And we decided to follow something that we've been passionate
about since we were kids, and that was Bruce. We
loved his music, went to his concerts. You only saw
a great concert when you went to see Bruce. He
played for three hours, four hours.

Speaker 19 (02:10:01):
No warm up band.

Speaker 11 (02:10:03):
He really really put his soul and his heart into
his music and his performance, and that's what drove us
to it, was his performance.

Speaker 19 (02:10:12):
And we decided that we wanted to try.

Speaker 11 (02:10:14):
To duplicate that, and we wanted to duplicate the old
Bruce rock and roll, you know, sweating on the stage,
people dancing and cheering and having a great time. And
so we'd sat down decided to put a band together
and we did. And you know, over the years, we've
had some changes back and forth personnel. You know, it's

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not easy to keep everybody on board. Everybody has different.

Speaker 8 (02:10:41):
Ideas, and.

Speaker 11 (02:10:43):
You know, at some points, you know, people move on,
some guys get the itch to start their own thing,
which has happened and it's okay, you know, and me
and Chris stuck at it, and you know, I guess
about four three to four years ago, I'll lead single
left to go to a different project, and we met

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Robert Santa.

Speaker 19 (02:11:08):
He was friends with Matt Cottner, the piano.

Speaker 11 (02:11:11):
Player, and he came into the garage where we rehearsed,
and I think we played one tune and we all
looked at each other and said, this is different.

Speaker 4 (02:11:21):
And he was, Yes, he was.

Speaker 19 (02:11:24):
He was just different. Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:11:27):
And it is pretty amazing, tom uh that that that
that came. The garage just opened, door opened, and here
was Uh and here was Santa. You know, it's a
guy named Santo's mister Santa, I have a I have
a an affinity for for the initial uh and the name.

Speaker 10 (02:11:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:11:46):
Also, you look a little bit like the former Red
Sox player Kevin Mallar. I don't know if anybody has
ever told you that. Yeah, but that's another Is that right? Oh, folks?
As I said, I had a chance to see them
at a at a festival feast uh back in August,
and they were amazing. And I want to get into

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the the power that you bring out, Robert, and and
it's it's just amazing. As you know, I look at
some of the photos I took myself, but Robert, talk
to me a little bit. I want to get the
whole bands, folks that Tom that you brought along, Chris
and and others that are on with you today. I

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know some couldn't make it, but just give me a
little a little glimpse, Robert, of of the fact that
you know, I mean, I presume you watch a ton
of Springsteen videos and the concerts that you've been to,
you know personally, you know, whether it's in New Jersey
or New York or wherever. But you know, it's really
amazing that you have that passion. You know, I've seen Springsteen,

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you know, ten times or whatever, and I don't people
have seen them one hundred. But you have, yeah, have
to have that in you. You know, It's just not
something you can fake. It's not like, you know, you
can play Elvis or something, you know, put on a
put on a big pillow and get a little chubby
for the older Elvis. It's the whole thing. How did
you How did that happen? You know that you gravitated

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to this this real image. Just I mean, I I
saw you sweat, and I know it was a hot
August night.

Speaker 35 (02:13:23):
Talk to me, well, it's very funny. I've been in
a bar circuit for many, many years. I was performing
in other bands.

Speaker 6 (02:13:33):
Uh.

Speaker 35 (02:13:34):
And the irony is that I never studied Springsteen, but
I always loved his music, and him and John Mellencamp
to two guys. I always loved their earthy, you know,
down old style of music. So when I yeah, when
I played in the bars, and I did, I played
the Stone Pony, and I played all those places, and

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I play stuff from places in Brooklyn. I always was
that person I would jump on the bar, and not
because of Bruce. Bruce, I mean, I love the way
he performs, but I had that energy. I always felt
bring it to the people.

Speaker 19 (02:14:09):
And I got off on that.

Speaker 35 (02:14:11):
You know, when the crowd is that feeling, when the
crowd's into what you're doing, it's like an energy man
goes back and forth. So ever since I've been playing
in clubs and bars. That that's how so when I
joined this band, I knew maybe three Bruce songs because
I used to do him.

Speaker 4 (02:14:26):
In the bars.

Speaker 35 (02:14:27):
But when I came in, I finally said, when I
remember hearing Born to Run and my brother was outside
in the car and I came in. It was the
first song I auditioned with them with if you want
to call it an audition, and you know, one, two, three, boom,
and they go into it and it sounded like the
way Born to Run should.

Speaker 19 (02:14:47):
Sound, not like my bar band.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
You know, we kind of had it down and I
remember doing it.

Speaker 35 (02:14:53):
After I was done, it was like, wow, my brother
said to me after the rehearsal. When he talked to
me later, he said, because man, that sounded amazing. That
sounded like like a Springsteen, the way Springsteen can do it.

Speaker 19 (02:15:07):
So what kept me with?

Speaker 4 (02:15:08):
You have a vocal sound? You mean your voice sounds
like him, and that's another piece of the puzzle. I
mean you may look like Kevin Mallar, but you sound
like Springsteen and Kevin, so it yes, exactly, It's it's fascinating.
I want to hold her right there because I want
to play some music that we have a file and

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Tom sent us to it. But I want to also,
you know, hear from Chris Devall and do you have
the other members onto? Tom? Is it just I think
it's just Chris. Okay, Chris, thank you and welcome to
the Jeff Santo Show. Appreciate you coming on. Uh your
sacks was fantastic and I think we had a chance

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to talk after the show as well, uh in Massachusetts,
So tell me about you know how all this kind
of came together, as Tom was saying, and Robert was saying,
how do you look at this? And you know, again,
your Sacks playing was fantastic. I mean it's it's you

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guys have really emulated you know, the real band. Give
me your thoughts, Tom, Chris.

Speaker 36 (02:16:21):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Good to talk to you again,
and thanks for having us, as you said Tom, as
Tom said, we know each other since we're ten or
eleven years old, that which is the same time I
picked up the Sacks junior high school. I had been
playing piano since I'm seven or eight, right, And you know,
so I'm the eleven or twelve year old playing those solos,

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those those born to run solos, thunder Road, Jungle Lands,
playing them since I'm a little kid, but not really
playing them professionally and out until like Tom said, fifteen
years ago. But they've been in my pores, like every
all the phrasing of those souls playing for decades and

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getting them, getting to play those souls in front of
people and watching how they move people. Clarence's playing was
like no other. He may not be a jazz great
like Coltrane and the others, but he just had a
something so special and the way it moves people and

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the way that I see it myself and others in
Springsteen tribute bands that play it in his honor, It's
just amazing and I'm very, very lucky. And then just
throw in the ability to play the Dandy Federici parts
on Oregon, one of my playing sacks, along with Matt
on piano playing the Roy Bitten stuff. I just couldn't

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ask for more to be in in this band playing
blu versus, great music, class is great solos with a
bunch of friends. It's it's uh, I'm super lucky.

Speaker 4 (02:18:08):
Chris, you're very good. You're pretty excellent, and Tom and
Robert are great to have you. And of course Matt
Kutner and Danny Weltman are not here today, but they
also were fantastic when I saw them, and make up well.
Without further ado, let's let's get some music going. Kevin
our great producer, we're gonna hear I think born to

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Run and uh, let's play that now for our audience here.

Speaker 19 (02:18:33):
This is.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
Fantastic Bruce Springsteen cover band folks uh and we are
very much saints in the city. You're in for a great,
great three minutes here. Let's let's play that, Kevin. When

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we looked up on.

Speaker 37 (02:19:17):
The mountain top, the til its other enemy were moving slow.

Speaker 19 (02:19:27):
And a blood of ankle like the dreading snow. We
weren't made marines.

Speaker 38 (02:19:40):
We were chosen by garden on Marines SI the fils,
always stainful, by machines, the Nina States Marines.

Speaker 39 (02:20:01):
So we made over way to the other side, to
the dark and the area that night where we layed awake.

Speaker 19 (02:20:14):
Until they met their faith.

Speaker 37 (02:20:18):
They were shot so around and biodies on the ground.
A flag flew high as hatred filled the sky for
the marine within.

Speaker 19 (02:20:29):
Madu of the terror window.

Speaker 38 (02:20:38):
We were nine Marines were chosen fight guys of meat
on the Marines simp.

Speaker 19 (02:20:48):
The fight else.

Speaker 37 (02:20:51):
Always faithful, fighting machines, the United States Marines. It was
some hours later we managed to survive.

Speaker 18 (02:21:08):
We hopped out with our headshold eye.

Speaker 19 (02:21:13):
Terror had died set the by.

Speaker 38 (02:21:22):
Superfine you would die trumpled with executor power. Want some
marine always a marine super five.

Speaker 19 (02:21:35):
Poorah super.

Speaker 4 (02:22:00):
Ain'ts in the city, folks. That was, of course on vocals,
Robert Santa on drums, Tom Visconti, Christopher Duval who's with
us as well sacks keyboards and percussion, Matt Kuttner and keyboards,
and Danny Weltman on guitars. Of course, both Danny and
Matt were an able to join us today. The guy
is fantastic. You know, I actually have only heard that

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song once before and it was unbelievable talk, you know.
I mean, well, well, I think we have Born to
Run in the file, I believe Tom, and we're going
to try to play that before we go off at
the bottom of the hour. But you know, this is
for a lot of people who are not familiar with
this song, you know it is it one of these

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things you have to go back and practice it. I mean,
it's you know, it's the lyrics are are straightforward, and
you know about the Marines and some PROFI but is
this something because it's different than the you know all
out uh, you know, Born to Run and other songs

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that are just you know, one hundred miles an hour, Tom, Robert,
if you want to take that, well, bought.

Speaker 19 (02:23:15):
To Run, Uh.

Speaker 22 (02:23:17):
Is you know, is a.

Speaker 11 (02:23:23):
You know, one hundred mile per hour song. It's it's energetic,
you know, it is straight forward.

Speaker 32 (02:23:32):
And uh.

Speaker 19 (02:23:35):
It you know, it definitely gets the crowd moving when
you play it.

Speaker 11 (02:23:41):
Everybody recognizes it and uh yeah, it's it's definitely a
straight forward, you know, pedalton metal song. Ah and it
it's like I said, it's it's recognized everywhere. Everybody knows

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going to.

Speaker 4 (02:24:05):
Run, Yes, I mean it's it's it's the it's it's
the one for you on this, Robert, how much do
you have to you know, get in the mode? It's like,
you know, it's you know, we go from a slower
song to a faster song and so forth. And you know,

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obviously your bandmates as well, but you know, how much
do you have to sort of it's taking your foot
off the pedal, you know, hitting the brakes a little
bit when you play a song like we just heard.

Speaker 35 (02:24:39):
Well, uh, I had to learn a lot of the phrasing.

Speaker 4 (02:24:46):
UK.

Speaker 35 (02:24:47):
I knew Springsteen songs, but I had to really get
to know the phrasing.

Speaker 8 (02:24:51):
And that was.

Speaker 35 (02:24:54):
There's very little wiggle room for for Bruce's tunes. Like
some some people you can cover and making sure own,
but being in this band, I had to get the timbre.
I had to really listen to how he phrases.

Speaker 19 (02:25:07):
He does it different a lot.

Speaker 35 (02:25:08):
Of times, but I stood out. I had to capture
the essence. So I worked on it, and these guys
put me through. They put me through some hard work,
but I had to. And when I first got in
the band and I had to do two shows in
Rhode Island, you know, I had lyrics all over the
place on the floor. And now I, you know, like

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Springsteen uses a teleprompter, sometimes I have to for certain songs,
and to be honest with you, because they're very worthy
and their storytelling telling.

Speaker 22 (02:25:40):
So I had to learn that.

Speaker 35 (02:25:41):
I had to learn how how Bruce you know, presents
this and I did. I captured it as I got,
you know, went through the fire. I went through the
fire for a while. But you know, I think we
got we got about a percent.

Speaker 19 (02:25:55):
There now, so we're good.

Speaker 8 (02:25:59):
It's good.

Speaker 15 (02:26:00):
Well, well, we're enjoying it.

Speaker 19 (02:26:03):
I'm enjoying the process. You know.

Speaker 4 (02:26:06):
Well that that's fantastic. Again, We're we're talking to h
Saints in the City and Tom Visconte, who started this
band a few years ago, the drummer Chris Duvall, and
of course I just heard from their lead singer Robert
Santa as well. No worries that I know the video
has gone in and out a couple of times. That's

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just the way it is with live radio and video.
We don't actually have born to run uh schedule to
come up here, but I think we're gonna try to
play one more song. But I wanted I wanted to
get a perspective of when you play an outdoor Tom
and and and you guys. I want to hear from

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Chris on this too. How much different is it complain
in arena or a small because you know a lot
of you know, major bands, you know, whether it's Springsteen
or YouTube or Tom Petty when he was alive, it's fantastic.
You know, when you get outdoors, it's a different kind
of you know, sound, it's a different kind of venue.

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Give me your thoughts on that, guys, as we get
you know, the last clip we're gonna play here before
before we end this interview, and I want to have
you guys back again, and you know, hopefully we can
have the other band members and give you a whole hour.
But this is a great start. And again we're going
to start in New York, New Jersey starting on Monday,
so you'll be having a lot of your friends to
be able a chance to listen in too. Talk about

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that Tom and if you can, Chris and Robert as well.

Speaker 11 (02:27:37):
So the difference for us, I don't know that there
is a big difference. You know, when we play a theater,
the same energy is put out as if we're outside
in front of ten thousand people.

Speaker 8 (02:27:51):
You know.

Speaker 19 (02:27:52):
Obviously it's.

Speaker 15 (02:27:58):
That gives a little more freedom to.

Speaker 19 (02:28:02):
Get involved with.

Speaker 11 (02:28:06):
Outside sometimes between the crowd and the stage and depend
that there's.

Speaker 19 (02:28:12):
There's accessibility for.

Speaker 11 (02:28:13):
Him to get off because that's part of our show.
But he always pretty much manages to do that. But
O Renergene never changes outside inside bar Uh. You know,
we try to play.

Speaker 19 (02:28:28):
Places that that will appreciate what we're doing and.

Speaker 11 (02:28:34):
Definitely uh, when we do with theater, most people are
there to hear us.

Speaker 19 (02:28:41):
They pay, you know, they know it's a Bruce Brinsteen tribute.

Speaker 11 (02:28:44):
So on the outside sometimes some of these festivals, people
are just at the festival and they're gonna get the
Bruce S Brinsteen band and some of them don't even
know Bruce, and a lot of the remarks we hear
is I never really like Bruce, but you guys did
it great. I'm definitely gonna listen now or I've heard
a million Prouce band.

Speaker 19 (02:29:01):
You guys at best.

Speaker 4 (02:29:03):
Hey, I get thirty seconds here. Thank you so much
for coming on. We're going to do this again. We'll
give you an hour next time. Tom Visconte, Robin Santa,
Chris Duval. Thank you guys. It is such a pleasure
to have you on. We'll do this again. Is there
a website Tom to people to go to if they
want to book your band or so?

Speaker 19 (02:29:23):
Yes? Thanks City dot com.

Speaker 4 (02:29:27):
Enough, Thanks City dot Com. We'll put this on our
website too. That Jeff Santo Show dot Com. Thank you guys. Well,
next time we'll play your of new Yeck as well.
Appreciate it, guys. Thank you. I'll be right back, folks
with Mark Taylor, Canfield.

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Thirty three minutes past the hour. It is the Jeff
Santo Show again, folks. You can go to Saints Inthecity
dot com. We have a lot more music to play
for them, and we'll do so throughout the next week
as we get into New York and New Jersey again
when we start on AM fifteen hundred US. As you

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can imagine with live radio, a lot of things get,
you know, in the in the mess of it all,
and we'll make the sure things next these guys come
back on and you get a chance maybe hear them
live too. It's another another thing in a studio, and
to hear these guys live, we'll try to get maybe
even possibly the the audio and video from the previous

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time that I actually saw them here in Massachusetts. So
we'll do that. But we go from you know, New
Jersey to the west coast, Seattle, w A. Our next
guest also with a guitar in hand. Well, the man
members in New Jersey didn't have any any musicians, any
instruments with them. This guy, will I tell you, he's

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the renaissance man of the Jeff Santio Show. He's a journalist.
He's the executive director of Democracy Watch News. He is
a good friend of the program and yours truly. He's
an activist and a musician. He is Mark Taylor Canfield
and he joins us now from Seattle, w A with

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a new guitar looks like a white one or a
tan one MTC. Happy Friday man, Happy Halloween.

Speaker 15 (02:35:29):
Hey, Jeff, it's so great to hey.

Speaker 4 (02:35:30):
Hey, what do you say?

Speaker 41 (02:35:35):
Yeah, I have I have a friend here who wants
to say hi, wants to say Happy Halloween.

Speaker 4 (02:35:40):
Ekay, what's going on pipers here?

Speaker 19 (02:35:43):
He say?

Speaker 13 (02:35:44):
Hi?

Speaker 19 (02:35:44):
Everybody.

Speaker 15 (02:35:44):
Oh, she's just waking up, so she's a little bit uh,
you know, you.

Speaker 4 (02:35:49):
Get up at one o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 41 (02:35:51):
Right, Oh, yeah, she's been partying all night. We've been
doing shows at the Nectar and the Sea Monster in Seattle. Uh,
some of the greatest shows you'll ever see you actually,
some of the greatest clubs you'll ever play in. I
love the Sea Monster Lounge and the great musicians who
hang out there, and also the Nectar. There's so many

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great places in Seattle to play music. And also I
wanted to tell you I walked by the trading musicianist
back our favorite music store which closed over a year ago.
The employees actually were able to get a business loan
and reopen, so now the employees own the business, which
is cool. And it's about two blocks away from the
original location, which had been there for like thirty five years,

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so that's really cool. And as we were going over there,
we heard this band in Callan Park across the street,
so we went over to listen to that. Full on
turns out there's a full on rock festival going on
in the park, all organized by high school kids. They're
all about, like, I don't know, eighteen nineteen, and they're
just doing a great job. They've got like really great drummers.
I wanted to steal the drummers because they're so good.

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But I have a lot of faith for the Seattle
music scene. I think things are going great now.

Speaker 15 (02:37:04):
Jeff.

Speaker 41 (02:37:05):
Tonight, I'm actually doing some acting, which I also do
in an adaptation of Edgar Allen.

Speaker 15 (02:37:11):
Poe's story That's Tailed Heart.

Speaker 41 (02:37:14):
Yeah, we're gonna do this thing called troll Owen, which
is right in front of the Troll Statue under the
Aurora Bridge in Seattle, the famous Troll Statue. This is
sponsored by the Fremont Arts Counsel, whom I love, Thank you,
I love you guys, Fremont Arts Council. They're so great,
and uh yeah, I'm going to act in it, and
we're going to do a little Edgarland Poe and then
house parties all night long and tomorrow night too, because

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Martha's Vineyard, No, not in Massachusetts, but Martha's Vineyard. Yeah,
it's an old house that a bunch of artists have
been living in for years and they hold these great
house parties with great bands that come by in play.
So we're going to be doing that. Unfortunately, the place
is being demolished to put up probably some luxury condos

(02:37:57):
or something ridiculous like that. But you know, we see
this happening all over the country. I've seen it in
Seattle and Pioneer Square and Capitol Hill where artists and
musicians live in these big houses, these kind of co
op houses, and then along comes a developer and evicts everybody,
and then they all got to find a new place
to live. We saw it in North Hollywood when I
lived down there, So you know, everybody knows what I'm
talking about. When the artists get displaced. Well, that unfortunately

(02:38:19):
is happening again is Seattle, Jeff. Maybe Katie Wilson can
do something about it, right because she's running for mayor.

Speaker 15 (02:38:25):
She's leading in the polls, and like.

Speaker 41 (02:38:29):
Mom, Donnie, and also the guy from New York who
ran for did you run from aria'side? The rants are
too damn high. That's kind of Katie. Yeah, that's Katie Wilson.
She's saying, like, let's have a capital gains tax.

Speaker 15 (02:38:42):
In Seattle.

Speaker 41 (02:38:42):
We don't have a state income tax, so if you're
a billionaire here, you don't pay anything to the state.

Speaker 15 (02:38:48):
We need to keep our schools open and our service
is going right.

Speaker 41 (02:38:52):
So she's talking about this wealth tax idea, which is
something that Promila Gipaul has also been talking about for
a long time, my friend and member of the US Congress,
and she endorsed Katie Wilson, by the way, So a
lot of people here are drawing these corollaries, you know,
and analogies between Mandami and Katie Wilson because they're both

(02:39:13):
running on a progressive platform against a more establishment kind
of Neil librural mayor. And so far it seems to
be working in both cities. So we'll see what happens here, Jeff.
We have an election coming up really quick here, just
within a week.

Speaker 15 (02:39:25):
So yeah, other than that, happy Halloween. How was your week?

Speaker 4 (02:39:30):
Oh it's insane, man, But we're really excited. As I said,
we're starting in New York City on Monday, on Am
fifteen hundred, so we'll be in the city and hopefully
opportunity to have some live events there. May have to
have you fly across country and join us. We just
talked to, you know, soulmates of yours, the Saints in

(02:39:53):
the City, Bruce Springsteen cover band. We had some technical
issues and some of the audi uh you know, wasn't
wasn't played, but you know, we'll have them on again
and so forth. But it's it's great. You know, these
folks as you understand, you know, uh, they're not making
although you know they do play, you know, headline shows
and so forth, but you know, they don't make the band,

(02:40:17):
you know, music, the money that people like Springsteen and
Pearl GEMEDI vetter you two, et cetera. Foo Fighters. Well,
I know you saw over the weekend in our pre
interview notes, but I tell you the energy is so real.

Speaker 16 (02:40:32):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:40:32):
Their lead singer Robert Santo, who I was joking looks
like Kevin Mallar but actually sounds like Springsteen himself. If
you you've listened to interviews I know he was on
the other day, were Jimmy Kimmel when he was in Brooklyn. Uh,
and you know, shout out to Jimmy Kimball. Uh, way
to go, my friend, and you know, fighting back against
the Trump administration. Uh, we're very happy to be at

(02:40:54):
KBC Radio. And of course he works for ABC, which
is you know, the and TV all different and stuff now.
But so you know, but he's he's a true patriot
for this country, is mister Kimmel. So yeah, so you know,
we're excited about that opportunity, and you know that's been
a lot of the planning we've been going in with

(02:41:16):
with the team, and we're excited about that.

Speaker 15 (02:41:20):
Yeah, we really cool hearing the band.

Speaker 41 (02:41:22):
That was really cool hearing the band and seeing you
do an interview with musicians. I think you're in your
element there, Jeff. I think you know, especially if you're
a fan of Bruce Springsteen and you're also obviously a
fan of this band because you saw them live.

Speaker 15 (02:41:35):
I don't.

Speaker 41 (02:41:35):
I wanted to tell people to that Punky who you
saw earlier, she was on ESPN because we were outside
of t Mobile Park. Unfortunately, my friend Brian Lash had
his PA speakers stolen between during a break when we
were performing out there. But over a thousand dollars have
been raised already by folks, And thank you to ESPN
and for the local TV stations for broadcasting that news story,

(02:41:58):
and thank you for all the people who contributed.

Speaker 15 (02:42:00):
That's very generous of you.

Speaker 41 (02:42:01):
And another another thing that makes me feel good about
living in Seattle is that you know, within a few
hours they had already paid for those stolen PA speakers
just from donations.

Speaker 15 (02:42:11):
So thank you, folks, that's so.

Speaker 41 (02:42:12):
Cool, and thanks for putting music on before me I'll
have to get you guys maybe to play my YouTube
video or a segment of it sometime, my song Freedom.

Speaker 4 (02:42:22):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot of there's so many
rules on on on these on these social media platforms, uh,
you know, and so it's really hard to play the
artists you know that I love and Bruce and YouTube
and Petty and and uh, you know, even some of
the old motown acts. And so we try to get
around it, you know. And the more radio stations we

(02:42:44):
get on, you know, they allow it, but the unfortunately
the platforms do not, which is always the trick, you know.
And and and but I think we can do it
with you. We can do it with the cover bands.
You know, our good friends the Joshua Tree, who have
you know, done some great work around the New England
area and the northeast. You know, I tribute band to

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you two. So we'll probably bring that on as we move,
you know, and expand across the country in the coming weeks.
But to me, this is this is people who are
real artists, you know. And Mark you follow into that category,
and you know you're you're a professional in journalism, an
amazing activist, uh and an amazing musician, but I think
that the passion. I was talking to the lead singer

(02:43:27):
Robin about this. I mean, he exudes it. He may
look like Kevin Millar, but he sounds like Bruce Springsteen.
Again if you heard, if you've ever heard Bruce Springsteen
in an interview, you know, maybe it's a new Jersey
accent whatever, but I just think and haven't seen him,
you know, I mean, it's it's just it comes out

(02:43:48):
of his body. That the not only the perspiration, but
just the just the the sort of you know, passion
of that songs. And I think that that, you know,
separates from people you know who really you know, have
a talent and to communicate and communicate with, you know,
not just on a microphone as we are doing right now,

(02:44:09):
but in a in a musical setting setting. And they
need to be celebrated regardless if they're you know, box
office you know everybody knows their name kind of thing,
or they have gold records or you know, in this case,
a cover band, but I mean they can do great stuff.
And by the way, just to sort of people to

(02:44:29):
understand somehow, were the clips that we played we were
not actually their audio. We're trying to figure that out
how that happened. But well, we'll get the next one
out next week when we get back into New York
and New Jersey. Let me ask you about something because
we've talked about this many times. The folks like Dave

(02:44:53):
Grohl who you saw over the weekend, and Eddie Vedder,
they are really in important right now because they understand
what is happening in this country politically, and the more
that they speak out, I think the more people who
are not necessarily political activists, you know, like you and

(02:45:13):
I and I think that is so important over these
over these weeks and months to come. Give me your thoughts, Mark,
because I think you understand that like few others, because
you're actually a musician and understand what it takes to
write lyrics as you do. And I'm looking forward to
playing a lot more of your music as well here

(02:45:34):
as we move along. They've only been back about a
little or over a month, So your thoughts on that, man.

Speaker 41 (02:45:41):
Yeah, I can work with your producers too on playing
some excerpts from some of my songs that have not
been released yet. So therefore we don't run into licensing problems.
It's just my personal permission, you know, allow you to
play those songs things that aren't on Spotify or other platforms.

Speaker 15 (02:45:56):
Also Bruce Freestein's.

Speaker 41 (02:45:58):
Song and the EA Street Band that my probably one
of the greatest rock songs of all time. Born to Run. Yeah,
I mean yeah, my god, I mean my God. Anyway,
just listening to that song gives me chills every time.
But also Dave Grohl and the guys have been doing
something really cool, Jeff. They just revealed this last night.

(02:46:22):
They have been going into This is so Seattle. I
keep thinking about this, like I was going to say
this earlier. People in Seattle are so cool and authentic
about their music. Those high school bands the other night
that we saw in the park at that festival, their
fans are just as serious about them. Are probably more
serious about the local bands than they are about any

(02:46:42):
big name bands. And that's one thing I love about
Seattle is that the local bands get a lot of
support here. And you know, a local band called the Heats,
which probably nobody has heard of, but they had some
hits back in the eighties, you know, kind of new
wave kind of band from Seattle. They sold out, you know,
their show the other night because people love what they do.
People love the Melvins, you know, so they sell up

(02:47:02):
their shows. The Sonics, right occasionally get together that great band.

Speaker 15 (02:47:06):
Not the n NBA football team team. Yeah, they influenced.

Speaker 4 (02:47:11):
You got to bring the Tonics back. Actually the NBA frame.

Speaker 15 (02:47:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 41 (02:47:16):
By the way, the Huskis should be ranked after beating
the heck out of Illinois and Mom Williams should be
a Heisman Trophy candidate. But back to the subject ahead.
Dave Girl said last night that they have been playing
secret shows.

Speaker 15 (02:47:30):
What they do. I love this, Jeff. This is Sociattle. Yeah.

Speaker 41 (02:47:34):
They go find some club somewhere that's a very small
venue and they don't tell anybody, and they just ask
the proprietors if they can set.

Speaker 15 (02:47:42):
Up and do a show.

Speaker 41 (02:47:43):
And you go to your local bar and there's a
food fighters and they are.

Speaker 19 (02:47:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 41 (02:47:51):
I mean, Seattle bands do that. Occasionally, they'll do two things.
They'll either show up unexpectedly or with Aaron Jones, who
you know, opened for the Rolling Stones on the European tour.
He will just show up at a place where I'm
playing and say, hey, Mark, do you mind if I
plug in? And we'll invite him up on stage. And
just jam with him for like ten minutes or the
guy's phenomenal. But so also Pearl Jam and some other

(02:48:16):
bands have done secret shows in Seattle where they booked
the Showbox, which is a really great theater here that
you know, has been around since like the thirties and
had Muddy Waters playing there and Gypsy Rosalie and all
sorts of crazy people. But they played there secretly under
a different name. One time Jeff nobody knew until like
a few hours before the show that that was Pearl Jam, and.

Speaker 15 (02:48:40):
So yeah, they do things like that. In Seattle.

Speaker 41 (02:48:43):
There was a free show on top of the pipe
Place Market near the famous clock there on Pike Street,
and Mark Arm from Mudhunting, which is a very popular
local band I got to hang out with.

Speaker 4 (02:48:55):
Right right and the other day, you know, if Dave
grow actually had talked about mud Hunt and he has
I think I belong when he was in and I
think in Scotland or someplace in the UK it might
have been. It might have been Gastonbury actually, and he
started talking about you know, the band and so forth,

(02:49:16):
and they all I think it was Honey Money that
played in front of Gastonbury, which is like one hundred
thousand people at their festival, and so that's interesting you
mentioned that.

Speaker 41 (02:49:26):
Yeah, they were a big influence of them and Mother Lovebone.
The refirmer and incarnation of that band was called Malfunction,
But that was Andy Wood. He was a local star
here back in the eighties and nineties and a lot
of folks like Kurt Cobain kind of admired him. And
so that's what Temple of the Dog is about, actually,

(02:49:48):
was some of the most famous players from Seattle in
those grunge bands. That is dedicated to Andy Wood, who
unfortunately died of a heroin overdose. That was a big
problem back in the grinch scene. I'm glad that we
don't seem to see much of it in the music industry,
at least these days. But you know, it's just great
that Dave Grohl goes into these places and just plays
what he calls I'm going to quote him too, I'm

(02:50:08):
have to use this quote.

Speaker 15 (02:50:10):
He says, we're from Seattle and we like it raw.

Speaker 41 (02:50:14):
And I really appreciate that, Dave, that you guys don't
try to pretty up your music on stage and bring
in tons of backup singers and violins, and you know,
Seattle music, especially the grun scene, is not necessarily pretty.
It's very aggressive music. It's very angry music because a
lot of young people and even you know, older people
feel like there's a lot to be angry about, especially

(02:50:34):
these days. So I think that aggression that the food
Fighters brought to the stage the other night is like
really apropos for where we're at today, and it is
important that Grohl and other people speak out about these issues.
You know, we talked about what Bruce Springsteen had to
say about Donald Trump, and he's very straightforward, does not.

Speaker 15 (02:50:53):
Hold back at all.

Speaker 41 (02:50:53):
So I appreciate artists like that who are not afraid,
you know, of you know, losing a few people on
a social media platform because of something they say. They
people really need to speak honestly about this, and I've
been very vocal about it, and I know the musicians
in Seattle have been very vocal. A band that nobody
knows anything about in Seattle played a show, uh, one

(02:51:16):
of one version of this band is called Critters Buggin,
But they played a show uh and as a joke,
they called themselves Crack.

Speaker 15 (02:51:22):
Sabbath, which I thought was kind of funny because they're
all kind of jokes. Jokes are funny, guys.

Speaker 41 (02:51:26):
But they did a show and Scaret, who's played with
some of the best musicians in the business all over
the country and over the world. He got up on
stage and said, uh, well, given the current political climate
in the country, I think it's time for Seattle to
attack Portland after Canada.

Speaker 15 (02:51:43):
And he was making all these jokes and at first
people were like, whoa is he serious?

Speaker 23 (02:51:49):
Is he like?

Speaker 15 (02:51:49):
Is he No, he was making a.

Speaker 4 (02:51:51):
Joke going to attack Portland. It's just a joke.

Speaker 15 (02:51:55):
Yeah, he's so sarcastic, you know, communist over there.

Speaker 41 (02:52:01):
And yeah, he's saying, like, it's time for us to
invade Portland and stop all this Antifa nonsense. You know,
he's making jokes on stage and everybody understands what he's saying.
That was at the Sea Monster, one of my favorite
places in Seattle. But yeah, if everybody, if anybody wants
to hear a great band, you know, of course you
can check out my stuff on YouTube and band camp
in other places. But if you want to check out

(02:52:24):
a great band, Critters Buggin from Seattle is amazing. They
also had a band called Sad Happy some of the
same musicians, and all of these guys are incredible session
musicians here in Seattle, the kind of people that when
a really big name band comes to town and they
need an extra session musician or someone on stage, they'll
grab these guys. So Joe Doria is a keyboard player.
Ron Weinstein is an incredible B three Hammond player. Andy

(02:52:46):
Coe is an amazing guitarist in Seattle who plays a
weekly show and also plays with some really big name bands.
All these people are very, very talented, and in Seattle
you can go into your local club and see them play.
So shout out to Dave and the band. Thanks for
showing up at those places. And I'm hoping to see
you in Seattle soon at my local Irish pub. That

(02:53:06):
would be great. I was playing their piano there the
other day and I was like, do you guys do
like Visa?

Speaker 8 (02:53:10):
They go, we do.

Speaker 15 (02:53:11):
Now They're like, come back and play again.

Speaker 41 (02:53:14):
But yeah, thank goodness that the Irish pubs are still
around playing Celtic music, you know all week.

Speaker 15 (02:53:21):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 22 (02:53:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:53:23):
I just was just thinking about this and I'm this,
we needn't prepare this at all, Mark, But you know,
our good friend and you appreciate him. Herb Boyd is
having a birthday tomorrow, so since you have a guitar
in hand, I'm wondering if you could join us at
about two minutes to sing a happy birthday to Herb

(02:53:48):
and his wonderful wife who both turned a birthday tomorrow.
I won't say how old, and you know I didn't
even think of this, but you're right there. So if
you don't mind, well, let's wait here another minute or
so so we can get Kevin and Freddie ready to
go on that. So we'll play this with Mark Taylor

(02:54:11):
Canfield on guitar, and hopefully Kevin and some of the
other folks can help sing here. I'll join in too.
We're talking with Mark Taylor Canfield here on the Jeff
Santo Show. And again, folks, just to remind you, we
are starting live on Monday on the Great Am fifteen

(02:54:35):
hundred w VHT at AM fifteen hundred gets into Manhattan,
gets into the Bronx and Courts M and eighth out
of northern New Jersey, and we're going to be starting
and we're broadcasting live three to six pm. Interestingly enough,
the owners of the station have some background in the

(02:54:58):
world of music on top of that. So this is
all kind of synergetic as we move into this into
this world. So Kevin, I want to let this go
here and we'll we'll play a little bit with Mark
here for about a minute and kind of go from there.

(02:55:23):
So you want me to count you down?

Speaker 22 (02:55:25):
Love her?

Speaker 15 (02:55:27):
I love her her boyd as you know, as you
will know.

Speaker 4 (02:55:29):
Joe, I know you do again. You know Herb is
the twenty fourteen you know, no, no, no, it's it's
my players that you can do this. But it's a
great honor to do it for Herb. We tried to
do it yesterday when he was on. We didn't get
a chance. So this will be We'll cut this up,
send it out to our our great friend Herb, and
go from there. All right, I'll count you down, mister Mark,

(02:55:53):
and we'll start singing together and see how this goes
and worse comes to worst, we'll do some instrumental stuff
after six o'clock, uh with with our friends back at
the studio and uh in Boca all right? In three
two one, Happy birthday.

Speaker 15 (02:56:12):
Mister her, Happy birthday to you, Happy.

Speaker 3 (02:56:18):
Bethday birthday.

Speaker 4 (02:56:21):
And why miss happy day?

Speaker 16 (02:56:28):
All right?

Speaker 4 (02:56:32):
Have a great one Herb and missus B. That is
the great Mark Taylor Canfield. Folks, you know just how
these things happen because we're trying to figure out a
way to to give Herb a great sendoff before his
actual birthday. And we got a musician right here with
the guitar, So why not MTC. You're the best helping

(02:56:52):
us play here and so forth. Hey, look, you know
I was also happy to see you Santas that a
music has also opened up once again in Seattle too.
Talk to us a little bit about that before we
have to roll.

Speaker 41 (02:57:07):
Yeah, you know, I mentioned it in the opening. The
Trading Musician was a very venerable music store in Seattle. Serously,
if I'm getting my notes right here, yeah I call them. Yeah,
okay for.

Speaker 15 (02:57:20):
Thirty five years, I believe the over thirty years.

Speaker 41 (02:57:23):
So a whole generation of musicians and Seattle got their
start by going to the Trading Musician, getting their first
cheap guitar, some used thing that was all beat up
in the corner with dust on it or whatever, and
then you know, meeting other musicians and forming bands.

Speaker 15 (02:57:36):
I mean, we don't know how many bands.

Speaker 41 (02:57:37):
Probably started because people met at the trading musician and
musicians like myself would show up about once a week
and just jam with people and we would have a
great time. A lot of vintage in musical instruments, a
lot of musical equipment, rental gear. They always gave discounts
of still due to students and music teachers. So great place,

(02:57:59):
and we all miss it sorely. I sang in front
of the city council about it, and that kind of
that video kind of went viral. I never thought I
would see it again, Jeff. It's just one of those
things where one day you wake up and your dreams
come true and somebody calls me and says Mark treating
musicians back. I'm like, how could this be possible. We
ran such a huge campaign to try to save it,
and we're unsuccessful and we all gave up. I smashed

(02:58:20):
a guitar right outside the front door on the day
that they chained those doors at five o'clock, at the
request of the of the crew that worked there. Well,
now the employees have basically taken over that business, so
it's now an employee owned business, which is really great.
So good to see that, and they will probably serve
a home nether generation of Seattle musicians.

Speaker 15 (02:58:42):
Yeah. Well, Jeff and the guys great luthier, they will
set up their guitars so well they have.

Speaker 41 (02:58:49):
I've gotten so many great guitars from them, and they
set them up for me so well though, just the
way I like it.

Speaker 15 (02:58:54):
So kudos to those guys.

Speaker 4 (02:58:57):
You are the best. Thank you for doing this. Happy
birthday and peace man out to you and all you
of your fans. Have a great Halloween night. I know
you'll be out till the wee hours of the morning
having a fun time. Mark Taylor Canfield check him out
on YouTube, check him out on Blue Sky again. He's
a fantastic renaissance man. Thanks Mark. I want to thank

(02:59:21):
Kevin for producing this broadcast. Is a crazy day today again.
We'll have Saints in the city back on. We start
next week in New York City. Can't wait until then.
Thank you. Freddy's Stantori in the eighteen folks keep on
fighting peacefully until Monday. My name is Jeff Santo's and
right now time for me to say I gotta go.

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