KCAA: Jeff Santos (Mon, 20 Oct, 2025)

KCAA: Jeff Santos on Mon, 20 Oct, 2025

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NBC News Radio, I'm Chris Karashia. The Senate is expected
to vote soon on a measure to fund the government.
On day twenty of the federal shutdown, There's been few
signs of progress as Democratic lawmakers remain at odds over
healthcare subsidies. Meanwhile, Republicans are demanding the government reopened before
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Speaker 12 (05:08):
Hey, San Francisco, it's to Jeff Santo's show is coming
to KSFO starting.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Tonight in a few minutes.

Speaker 13 (05:17):
We are a progressive populist show.

Speaker 12 (05:19):
That understands what it means to be thirty five thousand
dollars a year or one hundred thousand dollars a year,
and who is on your side?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
We have You're back in San Francisco.

Speaker 12 (05:32):
I have twenty five years of progressive talk radio experience
and we're bringing it starting in a few minutes right
here on KSFO AMA ten. We're on seven to nine
tonight and looking forward to being on eight to nine
over the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
It is Jeff Santos right now. I am going to
start the show right now.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
I got to go.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Kay, succeed a.

Speaker 14 (06:27):
Lie.

Speaker 15 (06:28):
This is the Jeff Santo Show on the Revolution Radio Network,
Rebuilding America together, invest in activism and supporting the middle class.

Speaker 10 (06:41):
Now here's Jeff.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well. Good afternoon Americans.

Speaker 12 (06:57):
Hour two of the Jeff Santo Show and Los Angeles
no Longer California Dreaming. We are live, and we are
live with the Mamas and Pappas coming up in a
couple of seconds here, folks, look, we have very exciting

(07:17):
news for those who are just turning in. We're going
to be talking with our good friend Mel Poindexter.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
He is in Boston, but we're on CASEAA.

Speaker 12 (07:27):
That's right, Sam Bernardino, East la Anaheim, Long Beach. We're
talking to you from one to three Pacific time over
the next weeks to come and hopefully months and years
to come. And we thank the team there. Fantastic group
of people to work with and we're looking for a

(07:47):
long time relationship to bring a again progressive, populous voice
to southern California and as soon as we can get
that music up.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Let me know, mister Kevin, as we.

Speaker 12 (08:03):
Love the idea of bringing a dream to being California.
Although we won't take it all that far, but it
is so great to be on and we're looking forward
to hearing from you. We have up on our website,
the Jeff Santo's Show. If you went to a No
Kings Day event, it's one of our callers from Los

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Angeles just told us he went to several of them
in Malibu and Studio City in LA and he obviously
had a good time like I did in Massachusetts. And
many of our friends, including our next guest Mel Poindexter,
all that the phone number to join us today.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Eight three three five four five five three three three.

Speaker 12 (08:47):
Again, you can email me Jeff at Revolution Boston dot com.
We'll be changing our email addresses as we go to
a Jeff Santos Show email address in the coming week,
so stay tuned for that again. If you want to
participate and tell us about what your experiences were in

(09:09):
California or anywhere around the country, you can go to
the Jeffsantoshow dot com keyword the and talk to us
about what it is that you have experienced on Saturday
and your view of where things are. So if you
go to the website on the homepage, our team has
done some great work there to be able to experience

(09:32):
what you saw with your own eyes, and if you
want to put photos up there, we would love to
do that as well. So all that on the Jeffsantoshow
dot com website, the Jeffsantoshow dot com. Well, you know,
as we get our good friend and outreach director of
the Jeff Santo Show, Mel Poindexter, ready, let me know

(09:55):
Kevin when we're.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Ready to go with him.

Speaker 12 (09:59):
The point is is that there are so many people
that you know went into thanking that I have to
thank to get this. This is a situation taken care of,
and our good friend Freddie is a big part of
that as well and his team in Florida, and there
are there are many others that we're part of this too,

(10:19):
So thank you and thank you. K c A A Okay,
So so let me know guys in Florida if we
have both the music and Mel ready to go one
or the other to start us off will be uh
be fantastic, I want to say. Okay, so Mel is ready,

(10:39):
all right, fantastic, let's go to Mel.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (10:42):
He of course, is the Massachusetts d n C member
uh former director for the massa Chusetts NAACP and of
course an official with the Urban League as well. It's
great to have our good friend mister Mel with us.
It's a Mel Monday and he joined us from his office.
They're high above Boston. Yes, great city, all right, sure,

(11:07):
Oh Jeff and yet Meil Monday. Yeah, but exciting.

Speaker 16 (11:13):
We'll call this a Jeff and Mel Saturday because of
that whole seven million people all expressing their discontent with
the present occupant in the White House. So that just
speaks for itself, volumes.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 12 (11:31):
And you know, I just want to let people know
who are watching us online that I've not gone berserk.
But I put this coat on because we're going to
go into you know, California dreaming. But since the tape
isn't ready, I'm taking it off because otherwise I'll start boiling.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
So there you go. Okay, Mel, We'll just let us
know when the music is ready. I'll I'll do the
acting again. Mel. You know it was.

Speaker 12 (11:59):
We're talking amongst a lot of people, including one of
our callers and friends, Tom, who went all over Los
Angeles and saw nothing but love generated. I want to
get your thoughts about what occurred on Saturday in Boston
and in communities around the greater Boston area that you
saw firsthand.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Give us your views and what you saw.

Speaker 16 (12:21):
As I traveled around and I tried to hit as
many communities as I could, it was the same message
that people were pushing out, and that was that we
are speaking up against what's happening right now presently to us,
both because of what this you know, this president is
doing to us in terms of healthcare, in terms of

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federal jobs, in terms of immigration, in terms of civil
and voting rights.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Okay, I mean, you know the we.

Speaker 16 (12:52):
Just heard that the court and Portland just gave him
the authorization to send in the truth. Okay, that is
a scary thing.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
All right.

Speaker 16 (13:03):
Well, I mean at some point, you know, the the
the you know, that's what people were out there on
Saturday speaking about we this We live in a democracy, okay.
And as you can see behind me, we the people.
That's what this is about.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
We the people.

Speaker 16 (13:19):
Okay, not him, the Trump, We the people in That's right, one, No,
that's it exactly in Massachusetts across and every community in Massachusetts,
for example, had some sense of people coming out speaking
out in unity to let everyone know. You know, both

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in Massachusetts across the country in Unison that we were
standing together that we are going to do whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Our voices will not be silenced.

Speaker 16 (13:53):
And for example, in California you had in Oakland, La,
I'm San Francis, San Diego, places like that, people doing
the same thing. It was a unified effort, one voice
across the country.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
All saying the same thing.

Speaker 16 (14:13):
We're not going to stand for it, and we're going
to fight you till our last breath.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well said.

Speaker 12 (14:19):
And you can't get a more passionate observer than our
good friend mel Poindexter. You know, he is why we
bring him on the show every week, why he's the
outreach director of the Jeff Santo Show, because he understands
about bringing people together. That's what we're trying to do
here and to our listeners at CACAA, it is important

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that we have people on that understand bringing together the
progressive movement with those in the moderate world. And as
our good friend Tom from La talked about earlier, it's
very simple. You follow the path that FDR started back
in nineteen thirty three. And you know, we are lucky enough,

(15:03):
you and I and we will be talking with him
on the show on Wednesday to know his grandson, Jim
Roosevelt a big part of the Democratic Party today.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
And you know, it's it's there.

Speaker 12 (15:16):
We don't have to reinvent the wheel in this idea
that we know all we gotta throw everything out or
we got to go back to you know how we
won with Biden triangulation and Clinton and you know all
this other nonsense.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
No, we don't need it.

Speaker 16 (15:31):
Exactly exactly, we don't need it, you know. Jim and I,
you know, and talk about this all the time. The
blueprint is there. There is nothing you have to reinvent.
All you have to do is take it out and
everyone pledge that this is gonna be our blueprint to
not only move ourselves and regain our democracy.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
But bring people to the table racially.

Speaker 16 (15:55):
Gender, age status, in time of your economics.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
This is all one voice, and that's what he stood for.
Jim has been a.

Speaker 16 (16:08):
Beaming example of the mission and the message continuing. You
know he you know, he and I talk about out
the types of kinds of out which we need to
be doing. He's constantly you know, a good wealth of
experience and you know, echoing how we need to continue
to continue the message that we've got to come together.

(16:31):
And one of the things I can tell you the
Democratic Party is doing is that we're looking at what
happened on Saturday and we're using that as a mechanism
to not only now that you have those people gathered,
now you've got to sort of let them know what
the party is willing to work with them and hear
their issues, hear their message, hear their concerns, and then

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let them know we are ready to go to battle
for you, Jill, and you and I symbolize that voice
that constantly, constantly people know across the state, across the
country that we are one voice and that we stand
together we can retake the government that he is trying
to take away from us.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 12 (17:13):
Talking with Mel Poindexter here on the Jeff Santo Show,
and we have found the music. We'll play it in
a couple of minutes and play it again when we
go to Harrow Myerson at the bottom of the hour,
just to sort of let people know that we're out
of the cold and into the warm blue skies of
southern California. Coming up here on the Jeff Santo Show
again the phone number to join us eight three to

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three five four five five three three three. We invite
you to post your comments on our website, the Jeff
Santoshow dot com. There's a box there about your experiences
over the weekend. But if you want to just talk
about general what we're dealing with, you can do that
as well on the homepage of The Jeff Santo Show.
And we thank the a team for doing just that

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today and putting that together. Talk to me a little
bit mal about where we are going from that wonderful day,
seven million people across the country. And by the way,
there's all this BS coming out of the White House
that oh, it's just a bunch.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Of a few liberals.

Speaker 12 (18:14):
There were people in my group, which is a smaller group,
maybe five hundred thousand people. You know, there were military veterans,
Vietnam veterans there. There were people there who were nurses,
who are teachers, these are these are people who were
average middle class represents the country. Uh, there were people
who were African American, Latino, Asian. You know this all
this BS coming out of the White House, it's just

(18:35):
so much. I mean, it should be a sewer that
should just dump away and and and and move it
right back into mar A Lago because this is really,
you know, a great unified message, and I would thank
Indivisible and move on and our friends at Social Security Works,
Alex Lawson's work. You know, there were so many of

(18:55):
the A C. L U all who helped put this together,
and I'm hoping they continue to put pressure, you know,
for have Democrats to be bold here and to continue
that legacy and again build off the road map that
FDR built, you know, almost ninety years ago.

Speaker 16 (19:13):
Well, I mean, for example, when you asked the question,
one of the things I wanted to mention is that,
you know, we're focused very heavily on this upcoming New Jersey,
Virginia and Pennsylvania California races, Okay, because that's gonna be
our first test, and we have been on the ground,
We've been mobilizing, We've put a great deal of time,
effort and money to reach those people, the very people

(19:36):
we saw on Saturday, to let them know. And again,
you are right, this was a cross section of everybody.
There was no singular you know position there. You had
people who were progressive and Michael, because one of the
places I went to was Boston, they were progressive, they
were moderate. You had conservatives, you had your correct military,

(19:58):
former military. You had people who get up every day
and work for a living. You have people who are retired,
You have people who are federal workers who are unfortunately
displaced because once again, this the occupant. You know, when
he came in, the first thing he did is attack
our federal government, federal.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Workers, put them out of work.

Speaker 16 (20:19):
Okay, those those are the people who are standing next
to me, and they were all saying the same thing.
This has to stop, and it has to stop now.
And the only way it's going to stop is that
we have to stand together, shoulder the shoulder, and be
committed to the one message, and that is this is
our government, this is our country, this is our constitution,

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and we as a body are committed to making sure
that this country represents everyone. And everyone's welcomed everyone, no
singular anybody out. And you're right, he tried to dissuade
people by putting out you know, I heard one thing
where they were talking about he had threatened people if
by find out that you are there, I'm going to do,

(21:02):
you know, some kind of action against you.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
People looked and said, find me here.

Speaker 16 (21:07):
I am at people looking in the camera find me
because I am here, my voice is being heard, and
you're not going to scare me or intimidate me.

Speaker 12 (21:16):
Seven million of us and you know a handful of theirs.
So look, you know, you know he can try to
bamboozle people, and he's been successful for the time because
he's a great con man, he's a great BS artist.
But at some point, you know, I should quote George W. Bush,
fool me once, fool me twice, whatever, we never could
get to the full that's.

Speaker 16 (21:36):
Right, exactly, you know, fool me again, shame on me, exactly.
That's what people will sitting on Saturday. You won't fool
me again.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
It happened in twenty twenty four, but you will not
fool me again.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (21:50):
And of course that goes straight to the Who song
Won't Get Fooled Again by Daltrey and Peter Townsend Company
h eight three three five four five five three three three.
We will promise to play the California Dreaming going out
of the Point Dexter interview and coming into our good
friend Harol Myerson, who grew up in Los Angeles. So

(22:10):
there's a tie in there to it all. Let me
ask you this, Milt, and this is something to me
that you know, we have the momentum. Take in the momentum.
I know that a lot of the groups that participated
that I just mentioned a meeting tomorrow the twenty first,
and they're going to be saying, well.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
How do we go and how do we work.

Speaker 12 (22:31):
One of the things that you do so brilliantly well
and why you're so invaluable to the Democratic Party and
so valuable to us here at the Jeff Santos Show
is you bring people together, you know, moderates, conservatives, progressives,
people of color, people who you know who are from
scand the Navy, or who are very white, you know,

(22:52):
and you know living in the Northlands.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
So it's it's all of that and more. And I
think that.

Speaker 12 (23:02):
That's going to be really critical. But again, the roadmap
was built by Roosevelt, and the Rooseveltian way is to
include everybody, you know, and he and again it didn't
start everyone. We all know that it didn't include people
of color, African Americans, you know, back in nineteen thirty

(23:23):
six when and all started and so forth. But the
point is is that in my view, there is a
roadmap here for single payer healthcare. There's a roadmap for
free four years university, you know, but it may not
come in one full swoop. You may have to sort
of take incremental change. But you finally get off the

(23:45):
idea that insurance companies are going to rip us off,
you know, for the rest of our lives, so, you know,
and make policies that only favor the rich and wealthy
people who run the hospitals and so forth. We saw
what happened here locally with one of them that just
you know, flew the coup.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
So talk to.

Speaker 12 (24:05):
Me about that, because to me, that's that's a roadmap
to the future. And I think it's something that we
need to talk about here on this show and help
lead those to know that this is.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Where the winning comes.

Speaker 12 (24:20):
This is where you win when you offer people dynamic
visions like FDR did correct.

Speaker 16 (24:26):
You know, for example, one of the things I was
saying to people Saturday was that you touched on it.
We all had the same shared concerns and issues health care.
We all are impacted by health care.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Education.

Speaker 16 (24:39):
We're all impacted in some form of fashion by education,
either by the parties who are presently you know, trying
to get out of US health care or education or
people who have children going into schools. We have you
have again as I mentioned about federal employees employment, you know,
his undermining of labor unit, you know, his attack on immigration, okay,

(25:04):
and then trying to demonize people who this country was
founded and FDR was one of the first to point
that out. This country was founded on welcome arms, bringing in,
welcoming new people to come and start anew That's what
we're here for, okay, And he's trying to undermine that.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
He's trying to demonize it.

Speaker 16 (25:24):
So everybody we were talking to, let me, let me
mention something here that I was mentioning to people in Massachusetts,
which I know listeners in California are gonna appreciate. One
of the other things we gotta do is that this
is something that kind of brings us all together under
one song.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Prop fifty. Prop fifty is our next question for action.

Speaker 16 (25:44):
It is our call to action because if we are
successful and getting Prop fifty accepted, then Prop fifty becomes
the blueprint because right now in North Carolina, because of
what Trump sees happened in California, he's trying to do
the same thing he did try to do in Texas.

(26:06):
He's trying to do the same thing in North Carolina.
And people who are going to be impacted there are
people who unfortunately look like me, people of.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Color, you know, and then it's going to impact labor.

Speaker 16 (26:17):
He's taking away trying to take away our voice, and
he and one of the key groups that he's targeting
is black and brown Americans because he feels we've been
the key supporter of the Democratic Party and if I
can silence you, then it makes it easier for me
to take another brick out that democratic democracy wall.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I can then start attacking other groups.

Speaker 16 (26:39):
That's why Pop fifty is our national call to action.
If we are all together on this and we support it,
then ends up happening is that that becomes our weapon
that we can use to hold on to our democracy.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well said my friend.

Speaker 12 (26:58):
You know, we're going to be talking with and one
of the congress people from Massachusetts, the House Minority Whip,
Catherine Clark, coming up at five o'clock Eastern time, two
o'clock Pacific time. And you know what happens in California
will help Miss Clark and Hakeem Jeffries because they could become,

(27:21):
you know, the Speaker of the House in the case
of Jeffries, and the majority leader.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
In the case of Clark.

Speaker 12 (27:28):
Come next well, January of twenty seven, in November twenty sixth,
the elections. And this is why it all comes together.
These forty nine states, besides California's voting for it. But
the forty nine states are the ones that are gonna benefit.
So again, California center stage, Gavin Newsom, center stage.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Follow the guy.

Speaker 12 (27:50):
Who's willing, who's willing and able to take it to
Trump and if you vote the right way, and I
think California will, and the polls show that right now.
But you've got to show up. You can't just sit there.
Not a spectator sport, you know. I like to watch
my Red Sox to see the Red Sox hat and
all that. You know, they're passed. And now we get
Seattle and the Dodgers from California. Maybe it's a Seattle.

(28:13):
It's not official yet. Toronto has a lot to say
with that. Friends in Canada, we'll be saying soon it
will be pulling out tonight when they play.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I think it's tonight.

Speaker 12 (28:21):
So anyways, the point is is that the other forty
nine states mail you got about a minute here.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
They have a stake in this.

Speaker 12 (28:32):
So yeah, you can watch what's happening in New Jersey,
and watch what's happening in Virginia and Mandani and New
York City.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
All important.

Speaker 12 (28:40):
But the Prop fifty has to pass, and if that does,
it opens the door for a lot of Democrats and
a lot of good ideas that Bernie after your founded
and so forth, your thoughts before we go Exactly.

Speaker 16 (28:52):
That's the reason why I told people, you've got to
be committed to Prop fifty. We have to do with
everything possible and supporting I've had conversations with the Congressman
concouenting myself Constant Clark, I'd work.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I tried to very hard with her.

Speaker 16 (29:07):
She's passionately committed to this as well, and sending out
that call telling her you have to be one of
the people giving the rally cry. I'm trying, but you're leading.
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Bernardino and greater Los Angeles. I welcome you, sir. You're
back home and across the country. How are you, sir?

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Yep, we have some audio issues.

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Go figure you know, we'll get this result and taken
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If we could get Harolds Mike ready to rock and roll?
Are you on muted? Okay?

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All right, folks, it is a Monday, it's our first day,
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It is it is important to reach folks that don't
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Guys, We have Harold ready to go.

Speaker 12 (38:25):
Okay, working on that, Freddy and Kevin and company hopefully
getting Harrold's microphone ready to go again. For those of
you who are not familiar with Harrold Myerson, not only
has he been a fantastic editor at large for The
American Prospect, but before that he was editor of the
La Weekly, a great weekly newspaper you know from the

(38:47):
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the twenty first century, and unfortunately, like a lot of
print newspapers, it just really couldn't continue to to make
the grade. And you know, because of the economic conditions.

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Ownership and so forth is also a big part of it,
and we see that with the daily papers as well.
So these are all issues that you know, we have
had and hopefully, you know, it'll be a resurgence. There
are a lot of them that still stayed online, of course,
and that's where you have to go, uh to find

(39:28):
uh these great uh, these great you know portraits of
people in the working class, the middle class and all
of us the ninety nine percent, which you sometimes can't
get with the mainstream, uh, in their in their.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Business sections, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (39:44):
Okay, so just let us know when we have Harrold's
mike fixed and we can get to uh, mister Myerson.
My phone number to join us eight three three five
four five five three three three again eight three three
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if we can get Harold on video, We'll just try
to get him on a phone call and try to

(40:06):
get him.

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Back that way Florida.

Speaker 12 (40:09):
So that may be another avenue uh to do it
if we can get him to uh to get the
video stuff squared away again, folks, we are asking, Okay,
all right, so we understand we have the video feedback,
all right, our good friend, Harold Myerson, editor at large

(40:30):
of The Fantastic American Prospect formerly the Los Angeles Weekly. Harold,
I'm glad we got connected again. Great to have you back,
my friend.

Speaker 22 (40:41):
Can you hear me now?

Speaker 4 (40:43):
I can?

Speaker 12 (40:44):
Indeed you got you got the job for the Verizon commercial.

Speaker 22 (40:48):
Excellent.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (40:51):
So did you get out to any other rallies on Sunday?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
My friend?

Speaker 22 (40:57):
Actually I didn't. I've got a sort of a bum ankle,
but I gave it the office because I think I
wrote the first column about ten days into Donald Trump's
presidency about how this is the two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary of Lexington and Concord, and we should demonstrate against
this aspiring sultan, this aspiring king, in the spirit of

(41:22):
the Minutemen of seventeen seventy five. So I think I
actually contributed to some of the Indivisible and AFT and
move on formulations of what these demonstrations should be called.
And you know, then I hobbled around my place rather
than hobbling around the DC demonstrations. But I gathered seven

(41:45):
million of my fellow Americans turned out across the nation,
which is a pretty damn good number.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
I agree.

Speaker 12 (41:54):
I think that not only is it a good number,
but it is a number in which, you know, it's
hard to refute. As Harold fixes his video here, Look,
I think, hey, it's it's first day in the Greater
Los Angeles and Sam Bernardino, so you know, these things

(42:16):
always happened the first day. So I'm thinking, and I
presume you have written about this and spoken, you know,
two colleagues about I think it's important for the Democratic
Party to take the momentum and run with it. You know,
seven million people is not nothing to sneeze at. And

(42:40):
I think, whether you're following the Bernie Sanders path or
what we've been talking about here, you know for years,
is following the FDR path, it's all there and you
build upon it, you know, like our guests later on
at five thirty Eastern is Alan Minsky, a progressive Democrats
of America lives in Los Angeles, by the way, and

(43:02):
you know, he and Harvey k an FDR historian, have
come up with the Second Bill of Rights, and in
my view, this is where the Democrats need to go.
And whether that means single payer, whether that means you know,
free college, these are all things that were in the
broad agenda if Roosevelt had lived long enough. Your thoughts

(43:24):
about this, because I think that it's important not to
be Oh, well, that could be controversial and Republicans in
the insurance company is.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
Going to run out against us. You know.

Speaker 12 (43:34):
Do you think Mom Donnie in New York City is
worried about that? Do you think that Gavin Newsom, taken on.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
The fight to Trump, is worried about that.

Speaker 12 (43:44):
No, they're being bold, They're being aggressive in their voices,
and that's what I think is needed.

Speaker 22 (43:49):
Your thoughts, Yeah, Well, I'd like to highlight something Gavin
Newsom did last week which barely got any public notice.
But if you want to look at sort of plain
everyday socialism and American life, consider this two years ago,
when there was a great deal of controversy about the

(44:11):
cost of insulin which was chiefly due to the profiteering
of the major pharmaceutical companies. Newsom got the legislature to
appropriate a small sum of money to set up California's
own insulin development lab, which they co managed with a

(44:33):
small some small chemists and others, and announced last week
that California will put on the market starting January first,
an insulin pen at a cost of eleven dollars. You know,
that is you call out what you will. I mean,

(44:54):
that's either public enterprise or enterprise. It's not really even
enterprise capitalism. It's enterprise socialism. And I defy even the
Wall Street Journal editorial page to figure out what exactly
is wrong with this, you know, I think I and

(45:18):
the oddity is because this was it wasn't It was
never kept secret or anything like that. But to the
best of my knowledge, neither Dsay nor anyone else actually,
you know, made a really kind of recognized that this
was going on. But it is in the classic Roosevelt

(45:39):
tradition of let us say, the Tennessee Valley Authority, which
provided public power at an affordable rate to southern states
that weren't getting very much electricity. To put it mildly,
in the nineteen thirties, and it's it's addressing a real need.
And this is you know, this is also America First
stuff just in case people had to go to Canada

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to get affordable insulin. Now they can stay at home
now like TVA. It has two functions. One obviously is
making affordable insulin available to diabetics, but two, it also
places price pressure on the drug companies that over price insulin.

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And it's going to be sold across the nation, not
just in California, because who would, you know, spend hundreds
and hundreds of dollars for a month's worth of insulin
when you can spend fifty five dollars for you know,
a month's worth of insulin made and marketed by the

(46:44):
California state government.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
No doubt. And you know, one of our.

Speaker 12 (46:52):
Callers just texted me on this fifty five dollars a
month is nothing, and you know, so it's a great,
great value for the people of the Golden State. Again,
we're so happy to be here on KCAA again. We're
going to be live one to three folks Monday through Friday.

(47:12):
We're very excited. We thank the management of AM ten
fifty and six point five FM forgiving us this opportunity
in drive time here in the East Coast and early
drivetime in the West Coast. Talk to me, Harold before
we go to the call, and want to go to
John in a couple of minutes from Minnesota. Do you

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sense that there is some kind of agreement between the
more moderate Democrats and the progressive wing and being bold?
I understand there's a meeting tomorrow with all the people
who set up this fantastic tapestry of people protesting against Trump,
move on, Indivisible, ac.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
LU and so forth. What do you make what do
you hear in there?

Speaker 12 (48:00):
And and and you know, coming together with those in
the House and Senate, and.

Speaker 22 (48:06):
Well, you know, there there are varieties of the question
of what the Democrats should do next. I think it's
pretty clear on the one hand that Democrats in major cities,
urban democrats want a government as progressive as is humanly possible.

(48:27):
You're seeing that with Mindami. But honestly, Brandon Johnson in
Chicago and Karen Bass in Los Angeles to cite that, now,
the you know, the mayors of the second and third
largest cities really aren't all that politically different from Mandami
though Mandami, honestly is is a much better poll much

(48:47):
more skilled communicating not only than they are, but then
just about anybody is. You know, I think that's the
case there. But I think a certain baseline of economic
affordability issues plays well beyond the cities. I mean, you know,
Mandami has made made it perfectly clear that it plays
very well in New York. But you know, it's it's

(49:09):
kind of a necessary thing for the Democrats if they
ever hope to win some red districts in red states
as well. Now, I you know, I think Mandami has
also sort of signaled that some of the more you know,
some of the cultural issues which the right magnifies as saying, well,

(49:30):
this is you know, this is all the Democrats are
really about. Is trans athletes and women's arts.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
That's all we care about.

Speaker 22 (49:40):
And there was a Wall Street Journal story today that
showed that that is beginning to be the major theme
of the Republican gubernatorial candidates in New Jersey and Virginia.
You know, like this is but you know, I think
it's clear that Democrats need to emphasize what you know,
what you and I would refer to his economic populism,

(50:01):
progressive exact.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Uh.

Speaker 22 (50:04):
And you know, when they get outside New York, in particular,
they have to understand, as Mandami has understood inside New
York that uh, he ain't going to some of the
more divisive uh uh you know, progressive cultural issues because
he's not uh and he's raised, he's waged at one point,
you know, at one and the same time both both

(50:26):
a very articulate campaign on behalf of some economic causes
and a very disciplined campaign in not getting into uh,
you know, some other things that the Republicans like to
wrap around his neck.

Speaker 12 (50:41):
Well, you know, the the the politics of understanding. And
again he took two hours of incoming from the moderators
as well as Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Yeah, Curtis Lee. But uh, you know it's believable.

Speaker 12 (50:55):
But uh, the point is is that I thought he
handled himself pretty well, you know, two hours.

Speaker 22 (50:59):
I would add I would add that I think the
only real effect of that debate is that Andrew Cuomo
lost votes to Curtis Sliwa. You know, I mean that
was the you know, that was the only news of
the debate really was that Curtis Sliwa was I think

(51:20):
rather successfully attacking Andrew Cuomo competing for the same voters. Uh,
you know, I thought Mandami did fine, But honestly, I
don't think he even had to show up because the
major event was the Sliwa Cuomo contest for voters who
are not going to vote for Mondami.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 12 (51:41):
Let's go to Minnesota, John, you are next with Harold
Myerson here on the Jeff Santo Show.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Great ahead John in Minnesota.

Speaker 23 (51:49):
Yeah, well I had I didn't see the debate. So
Mandami really did very well in that debate, did he?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (51:59):
I thought I think he did.

Speaker 24 (52:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (52:03):
And you know, we have our own mom Donnie running Oma,
and you know there's a he's running neck and neck
with Jacob Frey, and I'm thinking that he might push
out ahead of Jacob, who I think really botched. The

(52:27):
whole thing was with George Floyd and and the police
department and creating a you know, instead of having a
strong we used to have a strong city council and
now we have a week in city council because.

Speaker 22 (52:44):
And you're talking, you're talking about the mayor's race in Innneapolis.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
That's correct.

Speaker 23 (52:51):
Yeah, I'm talking about the mayor's race in Minneapolis, which
I think is you know, similar in some.

Speaker 8 (52:58):
Ways anyway to.

Speaker 23 (53:01):
You know, the race in New York City in that
you know, we have a progressive populace running against a
mainstream Democrat and I don't know, it doesn't look as
favorable as Mom Donnie, but he had Mom Donnie has

(53:22):
gotten you know, some good support and they're running neck
and neck and we have ranked choice voting. So I
don't know how that, you know, is going to impact
our election here. But I just was wondering. I did
go to the no Kings protest here and we turned

(53:46):
out about one hundred thousand people in downtown Minneapolis, which
was even you know, far greater than what we turned
out in uh, you know, in the last time in June.
And you know, I think that I think the tide
is turning because there were what two thousand, six hundred

(54:12):
protest sites at least that you know, we know of,
And I'm just interested, like, you know, what was the turnout?
You know, what did they estimate the turnout nationwide? And
how is that impacting the other side? I mean, are
they still you know calling us, you know, slandering us

(54:35):
and then you know, showing really tacky right?

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Let me let me let me do that.

Speaker 12 (54:40):
But before we go, John, did you participate in any
of the rallies on Saturday.

Speaker 23 (54:46):
Yeah, it was there is the whole three hours. It
was really inspiring and we essentially, you know, shut down
very orderly shutdown of the downtown Minneapolis for about three hours.

(55:07):
I would say it was, you know, very successful, and
you know, I was there, but from the pictures above,
they had helicopters come in and take pictures of the crowd.
It was just huge. We did have some counter protests testers,

(55:27):
but I didn't see any, you know, right in my
field of vision, I heard some counter protests, but you know, I.

Speaker 12 (55:36):
Think it was Thank you John, I'm really.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Right.

Speaker 12 (55:42):
Hopefully we can, Harold, Thank you, John, appreciate your call, Harold.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Any thoughts before we have to roll here.

Speaker 22 (55:51):
Well, one hundred thousand people in Minneapolis, which is what
John said that was the size of the turnout is
pretty spectacular. I don't know the last time Minneapolis had
had that many people in anyone place in anyone time,
and now I think, I think this is a huge
If you look as I did at the front pages

(56:11):
which I can see digitally of newspapers around the country,
this was pretty much was their main story on Sunday,
very definite exception of The New York Times, which seems
determined to downplay this for reasons that are mysterious, if
not nefarious. But no, this was a huge, I think,

(56:33):
morale building success for you know, the people whose morale
needs to be built right now and stealing them for
you know, the battles and the elections to come.

Speaker 12 (56:47):
Yeah, and you know, I think that the New York Times,
you know, the famous, you know, all the news has
fit to print, right. You know, they're showing, they're showing
that they're being passed not so much by the Internet
and websites and stuff like that, but they're being passed
by by video and people gathering. And that's something that

(57:08):
a newspaper finds hard to do unless you put in
color photographs. I mean the Globe here in Boston did
that with massive shots of the Boston Rally. I don't
know how you, as a guy who understands the world
of print, you know you do that. But I think
that they are missing the boat there. Well, quick thought.

Speaker 22 (57:28):
You know most of their they have a huge number
of digital subscribers. It's I think just slightly over ten million,
so they're not losing money. I do think they, you know,
have adopted a curiously standoffish, you know, degree of coverage
on the No King stuff and had a bizarre editorial

(57:53):
and for a time even news approach to Mondami, treating
him as though he were some kind of alien and
true or Meanwhile, I do have a couple of fabulous
ed colinists, Michelle Goldberg and Jamel Bowie, who.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Was Yeah, no, I love both of them. They've got
great talent there.

Speaker 22 (58:10):
Yeah, yeah, they're both in they're both indispensable. But uh,
you know, the top leadership on both the editorial and
the news pages, uh, you know, are working in such
a way that questions need to be raised about the
adequacy of what they're doing.

Speaker 12 (58:31):
Well, there's no doubt I think that's indeed the case,
you know, it is, Uh, it is important to understand
that not only is media under the scrutiny of mister Trump,
but it's free speech. And that's of course what was
happening on Saturday, and he can't stand that seven million
people or maybe you know, eventually, uh, it'll it'll be

(58:51):
even larger as the count continues. But I really feel
that there is an opportunity here to take the momentum,
and I'm hoping the Democrats do that. We're going to
be speaking with the Minority Whip of the United States
House Democratic Whip, Catherine Clark, coming up after this news
break and ask her about her views to basically, you know,

(59:14):
push back peacefully as I always say against mister Trump. Harrold,
thank you so much for your time today. Look forward
to next week back in your five o'clock slot, Look
forward to my friend.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Good to see you, good to be here to see you.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Appreciate you. All Right, we'll be back again.

Speaker 12 (59:34):
We'll be talking with Mask Jesus Congresswoman and of course
the House Minority Whip Catherine Clark after this time out.

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told that if this meeting continues, we can do this
tomorrow at about the same time or earlier in the day.
So we're working on that right now, folks. In the meantime, Kevin,
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If he still is, let's bring him in as we
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a good friend of the programs to join us. But
right now, let's go back to Los Angeles and talk
to our good friend Tom. I know you were very
excited to talk to Harrold. We just ran out of
time there. You know this is an exciting time, not
only to be on the air in your fair City.
But it's also I think important that people understand that

(01:08:42):
the excitement that is generated after Saturday needs to continue.
And I'm wondering how you view things coming off of Saturday.
You said you were in a number of different locations, Malibu,
Studio City, Studio City. How do you view that, Tom?
What the Democrats should be doing next?

Speaker 28 (01:09:05):
Well, what I would say is, I think one all
people in California need to vote yes on Prop fifty
because that would be the salvation of our democracy and
it's very, very important.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
For the upcoming election on November.

Speaker 8 (01:09:19):
Four, vote early to get your your ballots.

Speaker 28 (01:09:23):
In the second, I think the Democrats just need to
go on offense. I think that you know, as an example,
what Harold was talking about in the last hour, you know,
this whole thing with transgender people we need to start
looking at. We need, first off, to answer this whole
question because we keep on doing. When you don't answer back,

(01:09:48):
it's like you're not answering and they let that thing
just lie and it doesn't get solved. First off, for
all you goop people out there, you guardians of pedophiles,
you know, could you do me a favorite? But being
so obsessed with people's orientations or there who it is

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that they are. Why are you guys so obsessed with
people's sexual orientations. It's almost like you guys protest too much.

Speaker 29 (01:10:20):
And I'll tell you people, you know, I love the
quote that they had in one of the campaigns, which is,
you know, the Democrats are worried about potholes and the
Republicans are worried.

Speaker 28 (01:10:34):
About potties because they are obsessed to a really weird
place with people's orientations. First, I don't know what they're
going to do if they find someone that is actually
asexual where they can't tell if they're you know, male

(01:10:56):
or female, because it could appear to be a female
but out male organs inside of themselves. I don't know
what the help they're going to do with something like that,
unless they're going to examine every child to see, you know,
exactly who it is that they were born as.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
This is this is ridiculous. Why are we even you know,
the well, let me.

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
Just touching off or because I think I think it's
important that the Democrats understand that this is human rights.
You know, no other country in the world is having
this debate right now because no other no other Republican.
Uh you know, fascist regime is around the world has
this much power. Maybe it's a case in place like

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orbon or or in Russia, but not in any any
other democracy, which we're sadly you know, falling out of
that category. But to me, you know, as you know,
we're following the FDR path. The FDR path you know,
is not going to spend you know, one hundred per
cent of our time or even sixty percent of our time,

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you know, on this issue.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
We want human.

Speaker 12 (01:12:06):
Rights whether you are, whether you are African American or
Latino or Asian, whether you're a Native American, whether you
are straight or part of the lb LGBTQ movement, whatever
the case may be. That's what it falls under. And
I you know, as you well know, because you understand marketing,
this is a trap by the Republicans to sort of

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get you to talk instantly about you know, all this.
It's a human right and anytime a human being, whether
he is he is a she or she is a he,
it's a human being. And this is what they don't understand,
you know. And I think it was a priest the
other day, and I think it was Pope Leo. You know,
God bless him, saying, look, you know, I'm sick and

(01:12:48):
tired of these people who are, you know, for against abortion,
but at the same time they want to kill people
by the death penalty. This is where the Republicans are
and this is why to me, it is just a
travesty that airtime is given to people who want to
look into whether a person can play sports and all
this other nonsense. This is not what mostly American people

(01:13:09):
want to talk about. They want to know about the
economic concerns. That's why we need to talk about the
FDR principles and so forth. And it aggravates me because
we don't have to stand up here and to get
their talking points because it's all nonsense. It's garbage with
a capital G. And this is who the Republicans are
and what they have become. And they're running ads. I

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watched on MSNBC today they're going after the two women
governorcruminatorial candidates who are Democrats and throwing the whole issue
of a transgender you know, it's it's deplorable, but this
is who they.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Are and we got to call them out for it.
And I think.

Speaker 28 (01:13:49):
It is We're just weird, you know, what it's a
human Like you said human rights, it's being a humans,
it's being a human being. I've much to know about
the minimum wage. I'd much rather know about unionization. I
would much rather know about how it is this can
affect my life on a day to day basis. And

(01:14:10):
I'll tell you what. Being obsessed about people's potties there's
not something I want to spend a lot of time on.
This is just absolutely because I do think that the
Republicans spends so much money on these ads for it
that it makes like it's the Democrats being obsessed with it.
Democrats Kamala Harris never said one word about transgender people

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except for the fact that we accept all people into
the American family. But you would have thought that that
would have been her main talking points. We need to
as Democrats push back and say you're all stick out
and you're all weird because you're so obsessed with people
and their their gender affirmativeness. I mean, it's just get

(01:14:54):
over at people. That's I know. I didn't need a
position and it didn't go on off and we just
got going offense on everything. To tell you the truth,
because anytime we show a crack of being on defense,
we end up losing those arguments, and we have just
got to affirmatively go out there and say you're sickos

(01:15:16):
for you to be so obsessed about people's you know,
male or femaleness. You know what, we care about human beings.
And that's just the bottom line. I don't care if
they're gay, straight, I don't care if they're male, female,
I don't care who it is. I care about what
it is that's going to make their life better and
stop three big governments into people's lives. And in this way,

(01:15:41):
I rather have big government there for social safety net
for me and the people that I'm around, rather than
a big government controlling every aspect of my life. Get
out of my life. That's what I say.

Speaker 12 (01:15:55):
I agree with you. Tom from Los Angeles, Thank you,
my friend. I know you deal with these issues in
your world, and you know it's a tragedy that this
is something that is in our public discourse because they
got nothing else to talk about, so they make up stuff. Okay,
we are look thank you very much Tom for the call.

(01:16:18):
We are a waiting word, but it looks like that
the interview will not take place today, that it will
take place tomorrow. Our team is in contact with Congressman
Clark's team and we're trying to get a time for tomorrow.
Will know more at the bottom of the hour coming up.
But we're also trying to bring in on a good friend,

(01:16:40):
Alan Minsky, and hope to have him on momentarily of
course from Los Angeles, and he will be on this
evening actually in San Francisco on KSFO as well. Let
me just say a couple of things I think that
are really important here. I want to spend my time

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on making sure that the Democratic Party is the winning
party because in this country there's no other party. You know,
you can talk all you want about third parties and
all this stuff, it's all garbage. The Republicans are the
ultimate garbage. So the Democratic Party has to be the
party for the American people. They have to have the
back of the working class. They got to communicate to

(01:17:24):
the working class. That's what we're trying to do here
in California and across this country. If we as a party,
and you know, our good friend mel poindex it was
just on a few minutes ago, if we can't communicate
with African American voters, if we can't communicate with Latino voters,
If we can't communicate with working class voters live in
the Midwest who we're a flannel and in cowboy boots,

(01:17:47):
whatever the case may be, then shame on us because
we're the party of the underdog. We're the party that
understands what it's like. As our late friend Ed Schultz
would say, you know and his callers, our callers that
take showers after work, not before, and you know, this
to me is an intense time for the Democratic Party

(01:18:09):
to come together. Come together, as Harold Myyerson was saying,
as our Carla Tom was saying, as of course our
good friend Mail Poindex or ArtReach director, and of course
DNC member are saying, and many others that we come
together over the working class to make their lives better
and how they make their lives better because government people together.
You saw over the last forty eight hours ago, people

(01:18:31):
came together. It's in numbers, that's what the Democrats are about.
It's not about one person. Well, you know, Gavin Newsom
himself is not going to be the savior, and neither
is Mom Donnie. It's about people coming together over the
ideas and have somebody like Mom, Donnie, or like Gavin Newsom,
to be able to articulate that that is what is
at stake.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
And that is why we are in California.

Speaker 12 (01:18:54):
That's why we want to bring people like the majority
whip to our microphones. That is why we're gonna have
on candidates who are who are progressive, who are moderate,
who understand what it's like, you know, to push back
against the Trump regime. That's what it is, and we
need as Democrats to be able to push back, fight

(01:19:16):
back again peacefully. That is why to me, getting on
these sidetrack issues you know, to me are nothing more
than a wish list for Republicans because they have nothing,
nothing to offer. As was said earlier, they have nothing
to offer the working class. They never did, they never
will because they are a party of the one percent,

(01:19:37):
bought and paid for.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
End of story.

Speaker 12 (01:19:39):
Okay, so we are looking to make it work for
tomorrow is the word we're hearing from mss Clark's team.
We're looking forward to that happening at five o'clock tomorrow.
So Freddie and company, if we can get Alan on
the phone, Alan Minsky, we can start that interview a
little bit earlier. That would be fantastic. Okay, So we

(01:20:04):
again apologize, folks. So we thought we had the congresswoman on,
but a little bit of scheduling issues. We'll get that tomorrow,
coming up at two o'clock Pacific time, five eastern.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
All right.

Speaker 12 (01:20:17):
One more aspect of this in terms of how we
communicate with the American people. You know, we're going to
be on KSFO tonight out of San Francisco and that's
seven to nine again Tuesday, eight to nine, back seven
to nine on Wednesday. These powerful signals at some point

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in time have to be our signals. They have to
be owned by progressive folks. And this is an important
piece of going forward. And whether it's Gavin Newsom or
mister Pritzker or Bernie Sanders or AOC whoever is the
next president who has the D next to their name,
you know, needs to understand that that is a key
opponent of how we move forward without it. Without it, folks,

(01:21:05):
we are in deep doo doo. So I'm hoping that
people understand this phone number to join us eight three
three five four five five three three three. We're waiting
Alan Minsky and hopefully we can get him to join us.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
A little bit earlier than the past.

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
Again, folks, there is an opportunity here for the Democratic Party,
you know, to take advantage of the last forty eight hours.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
And you know that that is that is where we are.

Speaker 12 (01:21:36):
Okay, let's go back to the phones. Eight three three
five four five five three three three John in Minnesota,
you're next here on the Jeff Santos Show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
Go right ahead, John.

Speaker 8 (01:21:50):
Uh.

Speaker 30 (01:21:51):
Yeah, you know, I wanted to say that hopefully we
can get you know, these voters that don't vote out
I don't know, you know, engaging in arguments with with
maga people.

Speaker 23 (01:22:06):
It's it's really.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
A loss, I think, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:22:10):
So there are independence you can talk to, but the
Maga folks is a waste of time.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Yeah, the waste of time.

Speaker 23 (01:22:20):
And I do think at this point, you know, we
can't we well, we do have to support media like this, uh,
you know, to get the word out because corporate media
just allows them to walk all over about fifty percent

(01:22:41):
of the population or or even more really who you
know are not on board with this authoritarian government that
they're trying to establish. So we we just need to
keep pushing pushing back, and you know, demonstrations are important,

(01:23:04):
but more importantly getting involved in you know, trying to
register people to vote. And then also this move that's
going on in California proposition is it fifty. I'm not
familiar with it because I don't live in California, but

(01:23:25):
we need to push to support that because they're trying
to fix the vote and they've destroyed essentially like five
or six congressional seats in Texas, which is a fairly
populated state with a lot of electoral votes. So you know,

(01:23:48):
we just have to play the game, and we have
to you know, push hard in the other direction and
whatever we can do, you know, in whatever states to
I guess you would say game the vote, because they're
gaming it on the other side. Essentially, they're uh, you know,

(01:24:11):
getting to see to it that good portion of the
population are not represented, and we can't stand for that.
And also, you know, journalists need to push back against uh,
you know, John Mike Johnson when he calls us, I mean,

(01:24:31):
it's just it's beyond the pale that that a politician
would call me a terrorist because I'm in the opposite
party and that's exactly what he's doing. So he's encouraging
violence in this country. It's not the people who are demonstrating.

(01:24:52):
We had no violence whatsoever here, and we had if
if that is correct, if there were one hundred thousand
people in Minneapolis, that's twenty percent of the population. There's
only four hundred thousand people that live here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
In the city, no doubt. Yeah, so I really appreciate
you give them insight. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:25:18):
And it's the largest, that's the largest demonstration they ever
had in the history of Minnesota. But I think it's
the largest demonstrations that we've ever had in the United.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
States, exactly the largest, you know, yeah, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:25:37):
And you know that's just that's to show.

Speaker 23 (01:25:40):
You how strong we you know, people come out. I mean,
it wasn't exactly the most pleasant experience being with one
hundred thousand people. I mean, you you had you were
there because you could not move. It was very tight.
But we did march throughout the downtown and we you know,

(01:26:02):
we got a lot of support. It was very well organized.
There was no uh problems. Really we were able to
get our message out and do what we came there for,
which was to demonstrate against you know, I mean, it's
just it's beyond the pale. I'm i can't believe that

(01:26:22):
a president of the United States would uh, you know,
think it's funny uh to have an AI picture of
him shitting on us.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
But you know what, let's let's let's take that word
uh and and kind of bury it. John.

Speaker 12 (01:26:39):
I appreciate your call. All right, thank you very much.
All right, let's uh let's go to Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Uh and uh talk to Francisco in a Mark in
San Francisco. Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 8 (01:26:56):
Mark in San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Good to hear your voice.

Speaker 8 (01:26:58):
Hope you're Mark Serrancisco.

Speaker 12 (01:27:01):
Ah, Mark in San Francisco, Well, thank you very much.
Mark in San Francisco. Good to hear your voice. Hope
you're hope you're feeling okay this afternoon. What's your take
on what happened on Saturday. Did you get a chance
to go to any of the festivities in San Francisco.

Speaker 31 (01:27:19):
Yeah, I went down to the beach and we had
the yes on Proposition fifty and no kings aligned with people.
So there was an alignment that basically had that message.
If you looked from the helicopters, I guess they took
the pictures. So yeah, we had a huge turnout San

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Francisco turned out downtown it looked like enormous. I wasn't
down there, but the beach was huge, a lot of people.
I mean, this is San Francisco, and you know, we
were not shy about saying how we feel about the
country and the direction and it's going. And you know,

(01:28:02):
it was a great turnout. You know, I think when
I really look at everything, you know, I was hoping that,
you know, your guest would have made it, but it's okay.
I was just going to tell her that, you know,
the Supreme Court needs to be talked about, and the
corruption on the Supreme Court. They need to go on
offense and tell these people that they're days coming, that

(01:28:25):
we're not going to put up with it anymore. They're
trying to turn our country into a fascist country, and
we need the Democrats need to call these people out.
We need to go on offense against the Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Couldn't agree with you more.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
And by the way, Mark, we just got confirmation that
minority Whip Clark will join us tomorrow at five Eastern time,
two o'clock Pacific, right here on the Jeff Santos Show,
and their team apologizes for the confusion and the delays
of today's meetings and so forth that she's had. So
we will look forward to that conversation. We invite you

(01:29:01):
to call back on that, Mark as well. Look, I
think that what San Francisco proved amongst many other cities
we heard from John and Minneapolis, you know, callers from
Boston and New York today showed that there were millions
of people you know, across this country who are willing
to come out. And that to me shows that this
country has said enough is enough with mister Trump. They

(01:29:23):
want them out, and they wanted democracy restored, one that
people like FDR built, and that's the roadmap we need
to follow.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Mark. Great to hear your voice. Appreciate you.

Speaker 12 (01:29:35):
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All right, let's go to the city of Los Angeles,
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to give me an opportunity to talk to his great
forum yesterday. Of course we're talking about the Saint Louis
Cardinal fan, the great fan of the UK soccer teams,
and of course a good friend and I regularly here
on Monday, A Minsky Monday, Alan Minsky joins us on
the phone from La Alan Great to have you back,

(01:34:50):
my friend, How are you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
Well? Great?

Speaker 8 (01:34:53):
And I'm specifically a fan of Everton, who's the current coach.
About twenty years ago dubbed the People's Club, and it's
that because it's a very very progressive political band base
for Everdence club out of Liverpool, that the team the
Beatles rooted for when they were growing up, not Liverpool's
soccer club. People should know that they were Everton Blue,
just like I am. But I'm Cardinal red and baseball exciting.

(01:35:15):
There's a Game seven today and that should be fun.
And of course it decides whether it goes right out
of the wire as to whether the Dodgers will be
hosting Game one or not until Game three. Because I
live in the shadow of Chavis Ravine now, where I
maintain my allegiance to the Saint Louis Cardinals and uh
and uh and and try to stay away from some

(01:35:35):
of my friends in LA during the World Series is
I tend not to root for the Dodgers because I
don't want them, like the Red Sox, to catch up
to my Cardinals for the team with the second most
World Series but the last that's all fun and games,
and we have a lot that's serious to talk about.
Stefan one thing in my mind that I want to share.
But but but ask me, what's what you want to

(01:35:56):
think having to my talking.

Speaker 12 (01:35:59):
Point as we go, yes, no, no, no, no, no,
you got you got plenty of time for that. And
we'll be taking calls for Allen as well at eight
three three five four five five three three three. I
just think it is uh going to be extremely important
to the momentum, and I want to get your thoughts.
I presume you had spent some time at the different

(01:36:20):
rallies over the LA region I did in Massachusetts, and
everything I saw, as I mentioned yesterday, as you were
kind of enough to invite me on your forum, that
the the people had positive vibes. You know, there was
one Trump supporter there at the end of the on
the edge of the of the bridge that overlooked the highway,

(01:36:41):
where people were signs. Again, a lot of people honking,
you know, for democracy, honking for anti Trump. And I
think that is where you know, the American people are.
You know, a lot of them are not very political.
They're not people who you know, go to demonstrations as
a whole. Some are, sure, but there are a lot
of people who really care that their country is floundering.

(01:37:03):
You know, again, I've been holding up this pound of coffee.
I don't have it today, but I'll make sure it's
there tomorrow. Where basically the the the fourteen dollars it
costs for a pound of dunkin Donuts coffee, where only
costs seven ninety nine just.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Three or four weeks ago.

Speaker 12 (01:37:22):
You know, this is the Trump tariff economy. And I
think this is the way you know, following you know,
the path we've talked about we talked about yesterday, the
FDR path. This is how Democrats win. It's not about
just single little affordability, but it's the idea that you know,
you cannot trust a Republican you know, to help you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
It's only going to destroy you.

Speaker 12 (01:37:47):
As evidence of the Bushes and the Reagans and everybody
else who as an R next to their name.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
Have destroyed middle class communities.

Speaker 12 (01:37:55):
And you know, not saying the Democrats never have, but
they're the they're the leaders the back.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
They are the ones.

Speaker 12 (01:38:01):
That have destroyed you know, urban areas, suburban areas, and
so forth. Your thoughts about how we pushed back and
how we continue to have the momentum that we guarded
on Saturday, Helen, Well, actually, my main.

Speaker 8 (01:38:17):
Talking point fits right in with what you're talking about,
but with the slight only a slight inflection and difference.
I agree that when you look at public opinion pollings,
this is very true going into the twenty twenty four election,
that affordability what mom Donnie has run on. But don't forget,
he's not running against Donald Trump as bad as Cuomo is,

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and there's a lot that overlap and sensibilities with Trump.
There especially when it comes to harassing women and things
like that. He was running in the primary, where of
course bond Domini ascended by talking about the ways in
which progressives, the Bernie Sanders progressives, the FDR progressives speak
directly to economic considerations in ways that neoliberal Democrats, the

(01:38:59):
Cuomo's et cetera. Jeffries do not. And in fact, of course,
in the context of New York State, you might as
well just cast the moderate Democrats as the conservative establishment.
And so you have progresses like Mamdani who lifted up
this term affordability, which now you know, the Democratic Party
mainstreams consultancy class is trying to say this is what
we need to run on and only this. Well, yes,

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Saturday's demonstrations show that that's just simply not the case.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
Nobody was at.

Speaker 8 (01:39:25):
Those demonstrations, or very few people were at those demonstrations
on Saturday, seven million people basically a record breaking crowd
nationally and with twenty six hundred active and well attended
events all across the country. That was called No Kings Day.
That was about the question of the US Constitution, living
in the democracy, living in a republic, and clearly going

(01:39:46):
into the twenty twenty six elections. These two very broadly
framed issues, because those is no doubt under affordability. There's
all sorts of different components to it, and there's all
sorts of different components to the extra constitutionality and anti
constant soutionality of the Trump administration. But those two things
preserving our democracy and the republican and simply, I think
the Democratic consultants, the degree to which they say we

(01:40:08):
can only run on one thing, that just shows again
the contempt for the population. So we gotta look, they're
going to be our allies in the general election. We're
going to be allied with the totality of the Democratic Party,
Progressives and moderates alike, because of the general support for
the constitution, or at least, let's say an unwillingness to
break the Constitution is shared by the Democrats and by progressives.

(01:40:32):
And then there's no evidence that the moderate Democrats, as
much as we might have issue with them on economic issues,
they would not support and they would support a fully reaffirm,
full reaffirmation of the US Constitution, our democracy, and our
republic following the defeat of the Trump administration. So we
got to get to that place, and we got to
get there as a Democratic Party, and if it requires

(01:40:53):
a unity with a rather conservative moderate wing of the party,
will get there. There's no doubt in my mind that
the vast majority of Americans are with us, with progressives
on all the issues across the board. Our firmness in
terms of you know what's being broken in terms of
their constitution, and our no holds barred perspective on that
there's no gray room there where, any capacity, any element

(01:41:14):
of it would we be willing to let flid. Maybe
some of the moderates are not as vigilant in that regard,
but we're more or less unified there. But on economics
is a big difference. And to run on affordability means
to really propose a change, not to go back just
to the status quo. If the Democratic Party we're going
to claim to run on affordability and just be putting

(01:41:34):
forward status quo ante, what have they lost sight of
the fact that on the last election in twenty twenty four,
even as the economy was upticking under Biden, that people
were dissatisfied with the economy. They felt they were working
too hard just to get by. They need to propose
something better than that, and that's what progressives do. That's
what you do on this show so brilliantly. That's why

(01:41:54):
you resonate and will resonate with all the audiences that
run into the Jeff Santos Show all across this country.
And we need voices like this across the country right
now because the people want a different political, economic, social contract,
one that resembles the kind of prosperity that spread across
this country like never before in the wake of Roosevelt's administration,

(01:42:15):
during Crewman's, during Eisen hours, during the nineteen sixties. The
post New Deal economic consensus built the middle class in
this country, and it's been eroded ever since we've moved
to neoliberalism. We have to break but from the logic
and neoliberalism and return to a logic that centers the
interests of middle class and working class household and lists
the poor out of poverty. That is how we have

(01:42:37):
the American public regain faith in this society, and the course,
when they regain faith in the society, they regain faith
in the democracy. Let's retain the democracy. Let's preserve the democracy,
and let's have a new economic agenda for America.

Speaker 12 (01:42:50):
Dog man Allen Minsky. He understands it. You know, he
understands the economic message. He grew up with a fantastic dad.
It was a great economist, none all that. But he
understands because he gets out. I mean, you know, one
of the reasons he's a great Cardinal fan because he
gets out to the games.

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
He talks to people.

Speaker 12 (01:43:08):
And this is why Democrats, and particularly in Washington, not
all of them, but some, you know, spend too much
time there. They have to get out and meet their constituents.
And that's why, you know, we want to have on
leaders that want to communicate to listeners, you know, to
the voters. That is a critical part of what we're
trying to do here. And Alan gets it, and and

(01:43:31):
a lot of the people that are part of PDA
get it.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
But you know, I just want to say this.

Speaker 12 (01:43:37):
The roadmap, as we have said over and over again,
has been set up by FDR. What Alan and our
good friend Harvey k have been doing with the Second
Bill of Rights, you know, the twenty first century version
of Bill of Rights that FDR would have done if
you would have lived longer. You know, it's whether it's
it's Medicare for all or something like that, or whether

(01:43:59):
it's four years or free public university or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
You know, we're not looking for the exact.

Speaker 12 (01:44:04):
What we're looking for is to build, you know, Alan,
I think that one of the things that we need
to do is to build this this coalition of moderates
and progressives that basically was done, you know, and Bernie
and Biden have done this, and the American Rescue Plan
was unveiled and unveiled and they actually help people, you know,

(01:44:27):
with checks and help people.

Speaker 4 (01:44:29):
You know it.

Speaker 12 (01:44:31):
You know, we ended up having people who were unhoused housed.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
We ended up with a great situation.

Speaker 12 (01:44:38):
And then of course all got pulled apart by some
corporate Democrats and the course of the Republican Party, you know,
a couple of years later.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
But it's there.

Speaker 12 (01:44:49):
And I think if we can can bring together this
coalition again that was established between Biden, AOC and Bernie Sanders,
it can be done again. We just have to sort
of have the right leader. Is there, uh, And whether
it's in the House or the Senate, you know, that
we start and maybe there's changes along the way. Look,

(01:45:09):
I mean, you know, this whole thing with New York
City with Mam Donnie. I've talked to a lot of
people alan you know that are more moderate than I
am or you are, and they say, look, the guy's
an amazing communicator and he's out on the buses. I mean,
how many candidates have we seen, you know, go through presidential, Senate, governor,
mayor of any big city. They actually go on the

(01:45:31):
bus and start talking to people. That doesn't happen. That's
what Pamdani has just done. So Iby, there you go.
I mean, if you can do that, you can be
mayor of any city of any state, and any governor
of any state in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
Your thoughts, well.

Speaker 8 (01:45:49):
Yeah, a fantastic candidate. And but he speaks to the
realities of a people's faith, and I think his manner
helps them understand his sincerity, you know. And you know,
you had a breakthrough in the Boston mayors a few
years ago. I'm not sure how that's going for the mayor.
Sometimes I don't think her polities or his forthright as
mom Donnie's well, praft.

Speaker 12 (01:46:09):
Kid decided to run against her and dropped out because
she got she collambored him.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
So there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:46:17):
Yeah, for sure, And uh and finally I think Brent Brandon,
Brandon Johnson and Chicago's starting to get his sea legs finally,
and you know, a little help from you know, all
of us, and he would come from Governor Pritzker out
there to face up to what's going on in that
great city right now. But what a tremendous gity that is.
It's a fantastic place like New York City.

Speaker 23 (01:46:36):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:46:36):
Sadly, my video of Saint Louis does not does not
have the infrastructure or the wealth inside the city. Saint
Louis has a very unique structure in that it is
not a part of the county that surrounds it and
the wealth. I think that was probably done with the
mind that would be to the deficit of the county back.

Speaker 24 (01:46:51):
In the day.

Speaker 8 (01:46:52):
Well, it is no longer to the deficit of the
county in posts suburbia. Well, look the United States of America.
This is the wealthiest country in the world. And if
you look at the great innovations and technological innovations that
have occurred in the last one hundred and fifty years
in the industrial era into the technological era, now into
the digital era, they have disproportionately happened within the United

(01:47:13):
States of America, where we're you know, we're not ten
percent of the works population, right, We're what six point
seven percent or something like that. I don't know, someone's
gonna tell me the right number there, but it's you know,
we're the wealthiest country in the world. And while there
are all sorts of problems in this country, the upside
to us is even greater to this day. And I

(01:47:34):
really think a new Fdr Esk approach to America, conveyed
with the skill of Zoran Lambani to the American people,
people will understand, you know, Jeff agree about twenty four
to twenty five countries in the world that are wealthy
on a plane similar to the United States of America
in nineteen twenty. Of those are liberal democracies like the

(01:47:55):
United States of America and Western Europe, Canada, Australia and
New Zealand, Japan's Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and the United States
is actually the wealthiest in terms of household wealth in
Norway and Switzerland sometimes are within range of it. At
any rate. None of those countries, none of them have
a third of the population living at or under poverty. Okay,

(01:48:17):
that means they don't have any upside lift to their
domestic economy. People worry about deficits in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
You want to get rid of deficits.

Speaker 8 (01:48:25):
Pull those sixty to one hundred million people out of poverty, Okay,
add them to the middle class and their taxpayers. Deficits
are a problem of the past the minute that happens.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
Yeah, you get it, exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:48:37):
I want to take a couple of calls before we
get too late here, uh, talking with Alan Minsky, Executive
director of Progressive Democrats of America. You can hear the passion,
you can hear the knowledge he has both. Let's go
to the phones. Talk to our good friend Tom and
Los Angelesia. Next with Alan Minsky, fellow Los Angelino. Go
right ahead, mister Tom.

Speaker 8 (01:49:01):
O, Tom, how you doing, Tom? Beautiful day in l A.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
Tom.

Speaker 8 (01:49:08):
Can you hear we have gotten to him?

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
Jeff, Yeah, that's just.

Speaker 8 (01:49:14):
It's so gorgonous out here right now, you know it is.
I almost got sunstroke out of the No King's Day
on Saturday. It was so hot and sunny and beautiful.
Doesn't last forever out here, even folks, if you're listening
to the rest of the country. But it's sure is
the beautiful day today, just like Randy Human's things at
the end of those Dodger games when they win, when
they beat everybody. Yeah, I suppose we could talk about

(01:49:38):
I unfair the Dodgers are to the rest of the league. Yeah,
because it is pretty imbalanced.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
I think they they have the power.

Speaker 23 (01:49:45):
They have.

Speaker 12 (01:49:48):
That pitcher batter guy we've ever seen in our lifetimes. Anyways,
I don't know if they Ruth.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Last guy initially and they got.

Speaker 4 (01:49:57):
Rid of him. Yeah, No, don't get me a rest
with that. Muki Bets is another one.

Speaker 12 (01:50:02):
You know, they somehow the screw things up after the
year eighteen, nineteen eighteen, the Red Sox when the World
Series and Babe Ruth pitches for them. A couple of
years later, Ray Ruson in New York. This time Mookie
Bets went west and he ends up in l A.
Hopefully won't have to wait another you know, right eighty.

Speaker 23 (01:50:22):
Youmbin combined George Herman Root rightly mixes early in the
middle part.

Speaker 8 (01:50:28):
Of Ruth's career. Yeah, and then one person. He's not
as good a picture as.

Speaker 12 (01:50:34):
Let me let me ask you about this. No, no, no,
he's a very good player. And the Red SOX could
have won a couple of championships if they would have
kept him. But you know, I want to I want
to ask your your your views here though about communicating.
We've mentioned this a little bit, you know, with the
working class, you know, the Democrats that really have failed,

(01:50:58):
I think over the last number of years to do
just that, and it's important to be able to reach
out to them as we're looking trying to do here,
not only in California, but around the country. And you know,
it is important that you know, as we talk a
lot about sports, whether it's music, however, we got to

(01:51:20):
find ways to communicate to people because still, and you
know this is on us as well as Republicans and
on society in general. The majority of Americans don't vote.
It's not registered voters, it's people in general don't vote.
And that's the majority. Unfortunately, now you know, we get
sixty percent of the registered voters to come out and

(01:51:41):
that's a miracle.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
You know, Obama did it. I think Kennedy did it
in sixty Yeah, only only.

Speaker 8 (01:51:46):
On the only on the president. Only every four years
on the president for race most elections is much much
much below.

Speaker 12 (01:51:52):
Exactly, so we're not motivating the registered people, and we're
not motivating the people who are not registered to go
ahead and register to vote.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
And that's the majority of Americans in the country. Not
to me.

Speaker 12 (01:52:05):
There needs to be a connect here. And however it's done,
you know. I mean, I remember, and I said this
story before on the year. I was in a pub
in late eighties in London and we were all having drinks.
This couple of ozzie friends of mine and they looked
at the clock and they said, oh, time to go vote.
They literally ran out of the pub through some you know,

(01:52:27):
some shillings whatever it was on the table, and they
ran out to the embassy of the Austrian embassy to
vote because if they don't, they got a fifty dollar fine.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
At least it was there.

Speaker 12 (01:52:36):
I don't know if it's more now, But the point
is is that maybe what we have to do is
to make it mandatory. I mean, it sounds crazy, but
lace it happens. And these guys, you know, they were
there were thousands of thousands of miles away from home,
but they decided they didn't want to get the fifty
dollar fine, So why not just go to the embassy
and cast a ballot that way, you know, absentia, whatever

(01:52:58):
it was, but that me as an example and maybe
we got to learn from our friends down under your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
Yeah, sure, it's sam in Brazil where you got to
vote for for real, and and it would it would
be good. I mean, I think in terms of the
circumstance where in now we we need to have a
Democratic party be what it can be. I mean, look,
there's so there's so many faults in so many places.
The only the only portion of the population that the

(01:53:27):
political economies working for they're very wealthy.

Speaker 17 (01:53:30):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:53:31):
And fortunately even even the very wealthy aren't overwhelmingly Republican
voters because.

Speaker 32 (01:53:36):
Of course they do tend to be well quote unquote educated,
and that they and then they may find a Republican
cultural ideology disgusting. So we see that split even among
the leafs, so that the top elites are supporting primarily
the Republican Party.

Speaker 8 (01:53:50):
Let's not lose sight of that. And as are I
still think it's shifted in terms of college educated voters
in large parts. But don't forget college educated voters are
under a lot of economic distress. But the Democratic Party,
I mean, if you're looking about you know, creating space
for successive small businesses, supposedly the sort of nook and
cranny where the Republican Party back in its day might

(01:54:13):
have been able to have a wedge to be more
appealing than the Democratic parties. That is just not the
case anymore. Not that the Democrats are any better in
that circumstance, but the Republicans have failed. And so, you know,
incentivizing in this monopolistic environment, believe me, incentivizing small businesses.
There's another low hanging route for the Democratic Party to grab, right.

(01:54:35):
I mean, in so many ways across the entirety of
the American polity, the Republican Party are embracing policies that
are wretched for the general population, retchen for their health,
wretched for their education, wretched for their psychological welfare, etc.
And where the Democratic Party can really step in and
provide something so unequivocally better on all of these fronts.

(01:54:58):
And I really think it's up to us progressives to
create that template and put it forward and clear as
day is digestible a day, and then the public I
want to get to be inspired now.

Speaker 4 (01:55:09):
Both I agree with you.

Speaker 12 (01:55:10):
I want to get in one more caller, Alan before
we go. Let's go to art in the great city
of San Francisco, where we'll be on in a few
hours on KSFO A M eight ten the blow Torch
there in the city by the Bay Art. Your next
with Alan Minsky here on the Jeff Santo Show.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
What say you, sir?

Speaker 33 (01:55:31):
Yes? Question for Allen, where do you see progressive leadership
in the San Francisco Bay Area? Besides you know the
new mayor of Berkeley, we had a very progressive member
of the Board of Supervisors in San Francisco Star City Council,
Dean Preston. He was a member of DSA. And because

(01:55:52):
of the redrawing of our district lines like redistrict team
that's happening all over the country by dark money, we lost.
Are the most progressive member of the city, our City
Council Board of Supervisor's team President.

Speaker 23 (01:56:06):
Well, you're very.

Speaker 8 (01:56:09):
Yeah, no, well, I mean, of course, one of the
problems you have in San Francisco is is the is
the difference the city compared to what it used to be.
I mean, you're you now have a city for people
who are out across the country aren't familiar with San Francisco.
It's so spectacularly beautiful. It's located in that yeah, I

(01:56:31):
mean well, I mean there are very few rivals in
the whole wide world for its dramatic location. I mean
it's it's windy and can be brisk, and summer never
happens there, but it's you know, it's an incredibly beautiful place,
and so it's become insanely wealthy. The average household income
is very different than when I lived there in the
years after I was in college, and consequently the polity

(01:56:53):
is shifted. So while however, there's still this tradition of
great left progressive politics in the city of San Francisco,
you know, one might expect that a politics wouldn't be
quite as radical as they once were. Having said that,
California in general and the California Democratic Party has been
a barrier to progressives. Look, no members of the squad

(01:57:14):
come from California. We have two relatively conservative moderate Democrats
as state senators. That's not really reflective of the politics
of the state of California. We should have Democratic senators
whose politics are as progressive as a warrant and at
Marquis we don't here. And what happens is when you
have one party state like California and is the richest

(01:57:37):
state in the country and the richest province or state
in the entire world. Well, guests, who gets their fans
into the ruling party, and it's corporate America. And so
we have a real barrier in California that we have
to return through. We have to mollives, we have to
organize and and so on. Yeah, I think it's times

(01:57:57):
better than a Republican controlled date.

Speaker 12 (01:57:59):
But well exactly, I think that there is a real
need here though to to uh, to get new leaders
in art. If you're still there, is there anyone that
you like that is currently on the Board of Supervisors
or uh, someone you would like to see run from here?

Speaker 33 (01:58:18):
We have a very progressive member of the San Francisco
Board of the Supervisors representing the excels here. And excuse
me for not remembering her name right now, but she's
you know, a lesbian and a progressive and a Native American,
and she was very active in creating the public bank

(01:58:39):
movement here and she would be.

Speaker 8 (01:58:41):
Yes, challenged Scott Wiener for State Senate a few years ago.
You know what you're talking about? She is fat. Yes,
I'm forgetting her name too.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
Well, we'll find out who it is. We'll get her
on the program.

Speaker 12 (01:58:52):
But stay tuned art to us tonight on k s
FO you can hear Alan Minsky amongst others at seven
o'clock on a m Thank you so much for the call, Art, Alan,
We're going to run here.

Speaker 4 (01:59:05):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (01:59:07):
I think it's it's important that you know, people understand
that when you have the largest state in the country,
not as easy as it may be in a place
like Massachusetts to sort of coordinate all of that. But
I think it's it's a great, great state and we're
very happy to be broadcasting in it, both north and south.
Begin again again. Thank you, Alan Minsky, appreciated very much.

(01:59:30):
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