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Good aftern Americans and Loves Show. It is great to
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Santo Show.
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We are so excited to be on.
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WGHT AM fifteen hundred our first day, and we're looking
forward to debuting here. It's great to be back in
New York, New Jersey. It's been about twelve years or
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We will talk New Jersey politics, is the big race
for governor tomorrow with our good friend Deborah Koynevaka. She's
the former deputy chief of staff to current Governor Phil Murphy.
A little bit of background in Massachusetts. Both deb and
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mister Murphy the governor have those Massachusetts connections, so we're
looking forward to talking to deb she's also right now
the government relations director for the fantastic New Jersey Education Association,
and we'll be chatting with her at about three forty five.
Speaker 17 (08:30):
At four oh.
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Six, it's Mel Monday's melt Poindexter, the Massachusetts DNC member
and of course a fantastic part of the Jeff Santo Show,
the outreach director here as well as a former NAACP
Vice president in Brockton, Massachusetts.
Speaker 17 (08:49):
Of course, that's home.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
Of Marvin Hagler and home of the fantastic Rocky Marciano.
Of course, it's sad. He was one of the best
and somebody who I think is fantastic, memorized, memorialized, I
should say, in Brockton, Massachusetts. Okay, So at four thirty
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Alex Siteswald.
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He is the.
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Former MSNBC reporter producer, but he is also right now
he is the deputy editor of the Mid Coast Villager
in Camden, Maine. He was up covering the plant tour
speeches and races and saw them on his old neck
of the woods at MSNBC, and I said, well, we
got to get him on first day in New York,
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New Jersey.
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You got to get him on.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
So we did, and Alex will be joining us at
four point thirty Eastern time. At five pm, we will
talk with Harrol Myerson. Myerson, of course, is the fabulous
and editor at large of the American Prospect, great progressive magazine,
and then we'll wrap it up with Alan Minsky. Allan,
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of course is the fantastic Progressive Democrats of America Executive Director.
We'll be doing just that coming up at the bottom
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Speaker 17 (10:26):
We also have.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
A text line to give out which will do momentarily
as well, courtesy of our good friend Sam Pulton at
WCAP in Lowell, Boston. And of course that gets into
the two New Hampshire cities of Nashua and Manchester. I
will tell you this, folks, and I think that it
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is very interesting to yesterday on sixty minutes. First of all,
you know, a lot of people will not be aware
of the fact that this is the first appearance he's
made as president in the second term non Fox interviews.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
And of course if you notice he talked about that
he's better looking than Mandani. Really, is that what we're
judging people on now? Is they got sunk that low? Well, anyways,
that's interesting. But the other part of it too that
I think is is relevant. And this to me is
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you know, he he talks about you know, nuclear tests
and things like that, like it's you know, no big deal.
It's like, you know, to do list Wednesday, four forty five.
You know, this is the lack of understanding in the
seriousness of the current incumbent and it's gonna it's gonna
hurt America. And hopefully the election today will be a
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barometer for what happens in twenty twenty six and of
eventually in twenty twenty eight. He has said he's not
going to run in twenty twenty eight. Is illegal, you know,
against the constitution to do so, which was amended after FDR,
and that.
Speaker 17 (12:10):
Needs to be held.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
And we need to move to a democracy, not to
this semi fascist state that we're currently in.
Speaker 17 (12:18):
So we have a lot, you know, we're gonna do.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
We're gonna play a little bit of music in the
second hour or a little bit later this hour of
our good friends at Saints in the City they were
on last Friday, of course, and we'll play some boring
to run a little bit later in the broadcast.
Speaker 17 (12:37):
Kind of a New Jersey feel an appeal.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
You know, I'm all things, Bruce, all things, you know,
the Great New Jersey bands, New York bands.
Speaker 17 (12:45):
Too, of course. All right, I got I got a couple.
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Of things that I want to talk about here and again.
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And Kevin, if you.
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Can put that up on the upper left third, that
would be great.
Speaker 17 (13:09):
Again.
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Nine seven eight four five four forty nine eighty. That
is the phone number to join us. All right, I
want to talk a little bit about all these elections
and what they mean for of course our friends in
New Jersey and New York. We hope to talk to
Mandani over the next I don't know week or two.
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Our good friend Herb Boyd is working on that for
as he spoke with Mamdanni for the Amsterdam News and
was there with a number of other African American journalists
and my name came up thanks to Herb. So we
hope that can can happen. And we hope that he
is the mayor elect at the time that we speak
to him, so that is something to look forward to.
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He is a dynamic speaker. He is in my opinion,
the most electric candidate that we have had, you know,
come along now again for all of our friends listening
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Speaker 17 (15:00):
All right, So.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
The elections to me are this, If Mondannie doesn't win
by double.
Speaker 17 (15:06):
Digits, I would be surprised.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Although you never know, you know what happened to Bernie
Sanders in twenty sixteen in New York, and you know
close closed in certain places and you know, a lot
of Tammany Hall remnants still left in New York City politics.
Speaker 17 (15:20):
But I think it will be ten points.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
It's a large turnout of young voters from Mom Donni,
and I think that will will be the difference between
a close race and a major win younger people of
all different backgrounds, ethnicities, religions. It's it's the rainbow that
Jesse Jackson talked about, as I said thirty five years ago.
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So I look at this and I think there is
a great opportunity for a new wave of politics led
by Mam Donnie. I think that you're going to see
a close but four to five point win for Mikey
Cheryl in New Jersey. I think Spanberger will win probably
five to ten points in the great state of Virginia.
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And I think, of course, in California, I think it's
fifteen or more on a vote yes again. You know, then,
I know the Trumpie's are going to be sending out
monitors whatever that means, to look at these but you
know they're not going to find anything because California knows
about clean elections, that's.
Speaker 17 (16:32):
For sure, Thankfully.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Now the only one that is sort of suspenseful is
what's happening in Pennsylvania. I haven't seen the latest polls,
but I know they were close, so we'll make a
note tomorrow. Now, we'll have a special announcement tomorrow afternoon
about a double header show that we're going to be
doing in California in the evening. We'll make that official
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call tomorrow. Will also put it on our website as
well as soon as it is official again the Jeff
Santo Show dot com. I want to I want to
talk a little bit about what I think is happening
around the issue of the layoffs. Again, Democrats need to
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do a better job of communicating that message. Again, they
are at a disadvantage in Washington. First of all, they
don't have effective Senate leader in my opinion, and Shumer. Secondly,
they are of course without the majority. So the mainstream Washington,
DC based media will go always first to the majority
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leader slash speaker mis Case Johnson. They'll also go to
Thun who's the majority leader in the Senate, and then
they will go of course to Trump. And Trump will
hog up every minute possible talking about nothing except trying
to you know, intimidate and bully people. So that's what
they get so that the Democrats don't have a big,
big deal, which is one of the reasons why. And
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we're going to hope to talk to DNC official Martin
coming up on Wednesday or Thursday, I hope, And one
of the things that they need to ask him is
that how much of your ability to communicate will come
outside of Washington, because this, to me is critical.
Speaker 17 (18:26):
You need to be able.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
You know, Bill Clinton was a master at this when
he was running for re election in ninety six. He
went around the country and what he did. Of course,
local news is much different than it is now, you know.
I mean, it wasn't the days of the seventies with
Anchorman will Farrell, but you could still do a lot
of local news. You still can, and I would think
that it's very important for the King Jeffries, for Ms
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Clark from mister Aguilia, who were supposed to have on
tomorrow at five thirty Eastern time, that's two thirty Pacific
number three in the leadership, all of them should be
in their home districts and in other local areas, similarly
with other leaders in the Senate. And that doesn't mean
that people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, you know Murphy,
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Senator Murphy from Connecticut. All of those folks, Sheldon white
House who have the ability to communicate and have issues
that they're talking about.
Speaker 17 (19:24):
White House is very big on the courts.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
You know, he understands the the outrageous situation with the
Supreme Court. And of course if you have those folks
talking on their issues, you know, it's not like they
got to, oh, let's see, how do I take this
and how do I spin it this way? And I
don't want to look too too out there, too progressive,
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and you know, these these centrists gets very nervous about
you know, this seemingly is too progressive. So the the
thing that I believe, and I think Gavin Newsom is
the is the real genius at this is that he
can talk about and can communicate. It's like, don't mess
with me. He understands the quick SoundBite, but at the
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same time he'll talk about, you know, the major issues.
This is also what I think mom Donnie is going
to develop into. And he has all the skill set
in the world. Again, he can never run for president,
so I don't think he's going to be president, mom Donnie,
but he could be as very effective if he wants
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to run for Senate or governor. You know, the case
is Jennifer Granholm and Arnold Schwarzenegger both were well. In
case of Grandholm was both the governor and Schwarzenegger governor
of California, So you know, he could run for New
York governor. That could potentially work in his advantage as
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well going down the line. If he doesn't want to
be mayor for life, I think it would be good
to maybe get.
Speaker 17 (20:57):
To the state level too. So all of that is there.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I think the Democrats need to continue to build on
the momentum that they're getting again. At that rally in
Los Angeles was Vice President Harris, who looked like she's
running run again. Of course, Governor Newsom Jessica Crockett of
Texas was out there, as was klobd har the Center
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from Minnesota. But Crockett is fascinating. I want to get
her on the show sometime in the next couple of weeks.
She's dynamic. Someday I think she'll be senator and who
knows from there what happens. She could also run for
governor too, but I think she's probably going to be
in Washington but that's the Those are the folks that
I would get out there, you know, if they were saying,
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all right, Jeff, you know, here's a million dollar deal,
let's lets you advise the Democratic Party. I would I
would have people like Newsome, like Mom, Dannie, like Crockett
and others out there. But I don't anticipate any calls,
you know, maybe maybe a zoom.
Speaker 17 (22:03):
Call that he'll include me on. But that's about it.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
All right, I'm going to open up the phones eight
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will let him know who is on the line.
Speaker 17 (22:13):
Again.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
We'll be talking with Taylors Sterling on in a couple
of minutes as well, at the bottom of the hour.
The great program director of WGHT AM fifteen hundred is
so great to be on that station today and again
you can give us a call at eight three three
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Minnesota talk to our good friend John in the Twin
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Cities of Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Get right ahead, sir, Yeah.
Speaker 18 (22:43):
I just wanted to say that, well, I'm really saddened
to see that, you know, people have been cut off
from their snap benefits and most of them, essentially are
women and children that are getting to be impacted by that.
And some states are going to make up for the
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lack of Snap benefits, and others will just go along
with whatever Donald Trump illegally is doing because it is
illegal to cut off Snap benefits. It's an entitlement program.
It was created by Congress not to be used as
a political football, but to serve people in this country
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the most mediast So it just goes to show you
what they're all about is causing pain and suffering to
as many people as they can possibly. You know, I
guess do that too. So the sadists, they're ugly people
and we need to as soon as we can get
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rid of them. And then after we win, we also
have to remember what they did, so we need to
seek justice for those impacted.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Well, yeah, I mean there are people that are in
jail now that don't belong in jail. There are people
who have been taken off the streets and injured. All
those things have to be understood and being addressed, and
that is a critical, very critical situation. John, I want
to ask you a little bit about the mayor's race
going on in your city of Minneapolis. What is the
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latest poll wise there and that is happening tomorrow, is
that later in the month.
Speaker 18 (24:31):
No, that's happening tomorrow. And we have ranks of us voting.
There's three candidates that have joined and so that we
can still get rid of Jacob Spray by voting in
the order of first, second, and third choice. So that's
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what I'm going to be doing tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
So that i could get rid of.
Speaker 18 (25:00):
Because essentially he created I think, a big problem in
this city where not much is being done, you know,
to the police department, which it needs to be reorganized.
It was too influenced by the police union. That essentially
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created a situation where there could never be any reform
to it. So it's a highly corrupt system that needs
to go. And he didn't really do very much for it.
And in fact, he created a mayorship a mayoral position
that favors doesn't favor democracy, but favors a strong leader
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in the mayor by changing you know, the are essentially
what is the city constitution. And he did that very
quickly because he was afraid that after George Floyd the
We're going to be significant changes to the.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
City that he didn't like.
Speaker 18 (26:19):
He favors big money, real estate, the police. He does
not favor ordinary people in the street. Yeah, he's a
Mandami of the Midwest. I don't think that's an exaggeration.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
And even if he doesn't make it, as you know,
as a.
Speaker 18 (26:43):
Mayor of this city, he'll be around for quite a
long time. He's a young person, so I'm looking forward
to his career here.
Speaker 17 (26:51):
He's been endor on Omar.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
I know that with Omar you have a significant leader,
Key Ellison, as well of course the Attorney General. So
there are great progressives there. Uh and and hopefully there
is uh, you know, some more energy and the new
Senate candidate I'm replacing Tina Smith.
Speaker 17 (27:11):
Correct.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Yeah, it's it's neck and neck.
Speaker 18 (27:13):
Actually that's what the polls say. So it's very close,
you know, but I think that pray Night edge him out.
But in in this system of rank choice voting, we
might find very surprising results following the strategy that I outlined,
which is what a lot of people are going to do.
Speaker 17 (27:36):
Well, it'll be fascinating. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
John Forgive is an in depth report there in in
Minneapolis and the mayor's race will be looking at that
come Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, and you'll be our correspondent
for sure, come Wednesday morning and see what ends ups happening.
But we'll we'll talk to you before.
Speaker 18 (27:56):
I'm I'm a little prejudiced. Omar.
Speaker 17 (28:03):
Yeah, I think that I got the four conclusion. But
that's right.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Thank you, John, Appreciate you, my friend. We'll talk to
you later in the broadcast. Eight three three five four
five five three three three is the phone number to
join us again. Eight three three five four five five
three three three. You know, one of the things that
you know, John brought up about Mom Donnie and the
Midwestern perspective, a lot of people believe, well, you know,
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it's great in New York City, but you know what
wait wait, wait till he starts. Uh, you know, getting
pushedback from you know, the New York business community and
so forth.
Speaker 17 (28:37):
Well you're going to have that everywhere. I mean, Wall
Street is powerful and all of us who we know
that real estate in New York City as well, you know,
for the rent.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Is too damn. I thank you real estate community in
New York City. Uh, you've got to be a millionaire
billionaire to afford to live there. I know, and it
was ridiculous twenty years ago, and it's you know, fifteen
times worse than it is now. And that's only in
New York. It's in a lot of other places. So
the effective of what ability for him to communicate the
message of of freezing the rents. They've had, you know,
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massive rent control in the past. It didn't cripple I
didn't cripple the City of New York by any stretch
of the imagination. So let the one percent pay their
fair share in taxes. That's what I say. All right,
we'll be right back. We're going to talk again with
the program director in our new home in New York,
New Jersey. AM fifteen hundred WGHT. It's the Jeff Santo Show,
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Live in New York and New Jersey. We'll be back
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Sunday Night football. Sam Darnald threw four touchdowns help the
Seahawks crush the Commanders for their third straight win. Commander's
quarterback Jaden Daniels left late in the fourth quarter after
suffering a serious left arm injury. Bills took down the
Chiefs twenty eight twenty one. Josh Allen threw one touchdown
while rushing for two others.
Speaker 17 (30:08):
Talks about the win.
Speaker 20 (30:10):
They're the pinnacle of what you want your franchise to be.
They've been that for the last eight years. You know,
anytime you get a chance to play, you know the best,
and you can come away with a victory, You're gonna
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Speaker 19 (30:21):
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Panthers pulled off a huge upset beat the Packers sixteen
thirteen at Lambeau. Packers tight end Tucker Kraft left the
game in the third quarter with what the team fears
is a torn acl JJ McCarthy returned from an ankle injury.
Through two touchdowns, Vikings topped the Lions.
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This is the Jeff Sadu Show.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Thirty three minutes past the hour, coming to you live
from the South coast here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
You know, as our good friend Bono of you two
would say interviewed him back in nineteen eighty seven. He
did a video on the Jimmy Fallon Show and he said,
it's good to be back. Well, it's good to be
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back in New York, New Jersey, and it's good to
be on a fantastic radio station. AM fifteen hundred w
GHT is the call letters also ninety eight point three FM,
and with us from New Jersey is Taylor Sterling, program director.
Speaker 17 (34:14):
Taylor.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
It's so good to be on your station. Welcome to
the Jeff Santo Show.
Speaker 24 (34:21):
Titles are left out. You know women want their titles.
Well we got. I'm the co host. I'm the co
host of the number one dry Time morning show, and
I haven't brought us a ten m called the Tailored Word.
Speaker 17 (34:35):
The Tailored Word.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
You also are quite a model as well, according to
this photograph I have in front of me here, Well,
fantastic years ago. That's okay, still looking good in the neighborhood,
as they say. So you know, we're really happy about it.
Talk to us little bit about the history of the station.
You know, this is it's fascinating.
Speaker 24 (34:56):
Because it's a great Yeah, great history. Actually, if you're
into sports, you know who Kevin Burkhard is.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Yeah, great Fox reporter, baseball and football analyst with the
great Tom Brady.
Speaker 24 (35:11):
Yeah, he's on with Tom Brady. Well, he started on WGHD.
Ghd's been Yeah, he started there and he's been he's
been doing football for quite a long time and he
actually a great guy, really good at what he does.
We've started a lot of people over there. The station
actually went on the air in nineteen sixty four, but
(35:33):
he actually added the FM about five years ago, so
they were always am They won of a lot of
awards for both sports and news. So it's been kind
of a talk radio and we moved it to talk
and music because Frank who owns it, is what we
call the goat of music. So we had only station,
by the way, in the US that has six thousand
(35:54):
Billboard charted songs from every decade in genre. So, well,
what do you call a real radio station.
Speaker 17 (36:00):
Well, you know, it's so good to have real radio.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
You know, I've been working in it since I was fifteen,
sixteen years old something like that, back in.
Speaker 17 (36:08):
All Over, mass Yeah, yeah, yeah, just ten years ago.
And one of the things that to.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Me is is fascinating is that you can you can
learn so much about listening to somebody as opposed to
just viewing them. I mean, they're obviously you know, are
ways to look at people's facial reactions. And you know
the famous Kennedy Nixon debate where if you watched it
on TV, it's Kennedy on a landslide. If you'll actually
(36:36):
listened to it on radio, it was a lot closer
because you couldn't see the perspiration of the sweat from Nixon,
you know, going back to nineteen sixties before our time.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
Of course.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
And you know, one of the things that to me
is fascinating is that you know, you can have conversations
as you do in the morning with your great morning show,
and we try.
Speaker 17 (36:58):
To do here because it's long format.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
You you know, you're not have to deal with, you know,
a two minute break too, and you've got to be
back and you know there's six commercials lined up and
all those sort of things. Of course, there are you know,
a lot more commercials on radio than there have been
in the past, but television kind of breaks it up,
and I think that's really the value. And people in
the New York New Jersey metropolitan area are in the
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car a lot, you know, they're on the turnpike, they're
on ninety five, and you know they want to be
able to hear, whether it's music or talk and get information,
and that's what you guys are providing.
Speaker 24 (37:34):
Yeah, we're all about that week. The morning show is
totally unscripted, so you never know what you're going to get,
and we have we interviewed somebody every day. It's all segmented,
but you know, we want to give everybody a chance
to listen. And the things that we the feedback we
get is we love your station because it is you
ask questions we want to ask. We don't do anything
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script and I think when you do that, they pick
up on that because they are listening. It's sort of
like remember years ago when there was like a horror
movie and you never saw the monster till the end
of the movie and you were so great to death
and then you saw the mask and he's not so bad.
So it's.
Speaker 17 (38:12):
Yeah, he's not so bad. We can we can like him,
we can get him. Yeah, exactly, no.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
No, yeah, no, it is. It's a fantastic way because
you can you can learn so much. You can you
can understand when when somebody is uh, you know, paying
attention to you, uh, you know, if you're on a
phone call like we are, and you know we do
every day here on the Jeff Santo Show. And and
again we really thank you and the rest of your
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team for making this happen. One of the areas that
I think is also fascinating about your music connection. And
you know, we we were just playing the other day,
you know, maybe the God and I think if he
ran for governor, he would win, you know, hands down,
that's Bruce Springsteen. And you know we're a cover band
saying in the city that we had on and we'll
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be playing a little bit in the next couple of days.
Is you know, really the the entree into New Jersey.
But you know, do you play you know, a lot
of Bruce Springsteen because of that local connection. Is that
part of the playlist.
Speaker 24 (39:16):
Not really, but I will tell you this, Frank is
the It's the only station where some we had an
engineer asked us this about a year ago. You know,
we're talking about some of the big you know, radio
artists like Elton John and they said, how many of
the top songs do you play? So in the city
they'll play like the top six or seven. We play
forty or fifty, but they're in a rotation so you'll
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never hear the same song twice. So, yes, we play
a lot of each artist because we that's the thing
we get. We have texting in our newsroom, so we
get texts all the time saying, oh, I haven't heard
that song in years. I love that song, and you
know those are things we kind of focus on.
Speaker 7 (39:55):
Well, no doubt, we're talking with Taylor Sterling again, part
of the Great Morning Show on wh EH and UH
and of course eighty eight three and a number of
other stations in New Jersey, New York UH and of
course the program director. So we'll be talking with her
and as we move along. Let me ask you one
final question here. Do you think that there is a
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resurgence in in AM radio because I think that more
and more younger people, just as sort of the time
goes by, you know, they're they're discovering it because there's
a little bit of authentic elements to it. I mean,
you like the old telephone with the receivers and you know,
made a lot of made a lot of noise years ago.
(40:40):
Do you think there's something to that. I don't know
what your younger audience is, but I think there's kind
of a rebirth if you might, oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 24 (40:51):
And also there was a big fight because, if you know,
the car dealers wanted to take off AM and there
was a protest, and it's keeping it on. People love
to listen to a AM for many different reasons. It
is a throwback and it's something they can listen to
depending on, you know, how far you generate your signal.
They love the sound of it. That's what I hear
all the time. It's really interesting and I'm like, what
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kind of sound are they talking about? And I guess
it's looks like when you put the needle on the
record player and you hear the U sound. I think
that's what they think they're hearing on the AM. So,
first of all, many young people are actually listening to
Rido for the same reason you just said. They're in
the car, you know, yes.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
You know, you actually have them there, and in a
place like captive audience, you just have to keep them
there and entertain them and inform them and in a
combination of both. Well, Taylor, is so great to have
you on. We we look forward to We're.
Speaker 24 (41:49):
Very happy to have your show on. Also, we're looking
forward to hearing it and looking forward to getting the
feedback and we show all the best. I'm sure it'll
be terrific.
Speaker 7 (41:59):
Taylor Sterling part of the Great Morning team here on
w g h T and surrounding stations in the New
Jersey area in ninety eight three uh and of course
the program director here too. Thank you so much, Taylor.
It's great to be part of your great team.
Speaker 24 (42:17):
And we love having you here. So enjoy yourself though,
I will.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
I'll try, that's for sure. We're gonna we're gonna go
down in flames. I'm gonna have fun doing it. Thanks
so much, Taylor, I appreciate it. Yeah, exactly and love
that outfit too.
Speaker 17 (42:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
We'll be of course talking to Taylor. Yeah, she's looking
good in the video as you can see there. Those
of you who are watching are listening on on the
great w g h T. There's a great video we
just pushed aside. But well we'll do it again. It's
a fantastic insight. Look at the program director and again
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the co host in the mornings in or the New
Jersey WGHT AM fifteen hundred and a couple of other
stations there as well. Well, all right, we're gonna stay
in New Jersey and talk to our good friend. She
is dynamic in so many ways. As the former deputy
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chief of staff to the fantastic Governor Phil Murphy Massachusetts roots,
she has Massachusetts roots as well. She's also the executive
director of the fantastic New Jersey Education Association. So important
our educators, so important, our teachers to the future of
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this country, as I said, the most important profession in
the United States. Deborah Cornovaka joins us. Deb great to
have you on the show, but today even more so
because then we're in your home state.
Speaker 17 (43:55):
Oh okay, well I thought we had her.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
Hopefully we'll get her any minute now. Well, one of
the things that you know we're going to talk to
Deb about is UH this race UH for governor and
it is it is critical that you know, New Jersey
continues to be blue.
Speaker 17 (44:16):
Murphy has done a really good job.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
You know, there there are some issues the energy costs
and so forth, but really, what is Republican going to do?
Speaker 17 (44:25):
Republicans going to lower your energy costs? Why?
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Because he's not in bed with the energy providers. I
don't know if a Republican who is not tied to
the one percent, you know and the police. So you know, yes,
there needs to be some some work done here and
and some reform. But you're going to get it with
miss Cheryl. You're not going to get it with Cinderelli.
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So you know, come on, folks, just be really real
about this.
Speaker 17 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (44:55):
That's why we want to talk to Deb and we
do have her live on the roads in New Jersey again,
the former deputy chiefest staff to Governor Phil Murphy. And
now our good friend is the dynamic executive i should say,
government relations director at the New Jersey Education Association.
Speaker 17 (45:16):
Deb, How are you?
Speaker 25 (45:19):
I am feeling terrific I'm feeling the energy of the
day before election day here and doing well, thank you
very much.
Speaker 17 (45:27):
Well, it's good to be in your state on the air.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
That is, I'm not physically there at least not yet,
but lots going on in this election.
Speaker 17 (45:37):
I know you're excited.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
You know, it's good to be on wght AM fifteen
hundred gets into a lot of northern New Jersey, the
Newark area, Union and Patterson, So we're looking forward to,
you know, being on here for a while and talking
to people across the state in New Jersey. Also gets
into New York particularly and manhatt and the Bronx and
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our friends like Herb Boyd and Harlem can also listen
in too, So we're excited about that.
Speaker 17 (46:08):
Give us the latest from what you see right now.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
You know, I've seen poles everywhere from one point to
seven points. I presume it somewhere in that three four middle.
Is that where things are?
Speaker 25 (46:23):
I would think? So, I think, look, we've seen what
we expect this to be as a close race because
our nation is highly polarized and highly divided, which is
you know the same for our state. But in every
poll except for one poll by Jack Chittarelli, Mikey Cheryl
has been has had a lead, whether it be a
small lead of one point or a much broader lead,
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it's been a fairly consistent pattern that we're seeing New
Jersey ands are saying the change we want is a
change of defending us against the dangers of Donald Trump, right,
and that the only way we're going to address affordability
in this state is to have someone who will stand
up to his pole. So we're feeling pretty good. I
do expect it'll be a close race, and I'd love
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to be wrong and see candidate my Serold blow it
out of the water. But what we're looking at is
a slim but life.
Speaker 23 (47:11):
A little easier for tomorrow.
Speaker 24 (47:14):
What was that?
Speaker 17 (47:14):
I think? I think you'd be be happy to have that.
Sit back, have a pina colada, and you know.
Speaker 25 (47:21):
If it eight fifteen week, could be celebrating, We'll be
totally happy.
Speaker 17 (47:27):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Deborah co Devaka, she's been through a lot of these
campaigns again, the deputy chief of staff to current Governor
of Phil Murphy.
Speaker 17 (47:35):
You know, I was talking about the UH.
Speaker 7 (47:37):
The issues of energy and so forth, but you know,
when's the last time, because you followed not only politics
in New Jersey, but around the country. Has a Republican
all of a sudden come to the rescue of people,
will making twenty five thirty thousand dollars a year and
reduce the energy costs. Oh yeah, we're going to take
on the one percent who put a lot of money
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in our in our bank accounts. This is such a
bunch of crap, but this is how the Republicans role,
not only in New Jersey, but around the country.
Speaker 17 (48:06):
Your thoughts, Yeah.
Speaker 25 (48:09):
I mean, I think it's an unfortunate fact that we
can demonstrate that trickle down economics is a myth that
when Republicans control government, they will consistently provide more tax
breaks to the very wealthy, you know, trying to use
this myth to justify it.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
And the middle.
Speaker 25 (48:28):
Class are squeezed even tighter, and those struggling to get
into the middle class have even less opportunity. And you know,
this Trumpet administration is a demonstration of that. Right, the
policies he's enacting, the tariffs he's putting in, all of
it are creating more insecurity, more strife. Right, eight hundred
thousand people in the state of New Jersey. Right, now
going without their food benefits. He's not here to help
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look out for the people who need the help the most.
He's looking at for his friends. And he's a much
wealthier president for it. And I have no reason to
believe that a governor who a scribe to the MAGA
party would not do the same for the state.
Speaker 17 (49:05):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Come on, now, it's you know, I mean, this is
this is one time the country Club Republicans, uh, and
now they're MAGA and country Club all wrapped into one
and being led down the Rosie path of mister Trump.
And you know where that could potentially and then it's
not a good place for the American.
Speaker 25 (49:26):
People nowhere right exactly.
Speaker 7 (49:30):
Deborah Conorvaka is our guest here on the Jeff Santo Show.
You can phone in at eight three three five four
five five three three three.
Speaker 26 (49:37):
You know.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
The other part two that I think is going to
be fascinating here is you know how we all come
out come you know, Wednesday morning, you know the race
New Jersey Course across the uh the Hudson is Mamdani
looks like he's going to be the next mayor of
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New York City, you know, barring some tammany Hall hijinks
otherwise you know that should take place. And then of
course you have Prop fifty in California and our friends
listening on KCAA they're in the greater Los Angeles area.
You have Prop fifty of course having an impact all
across the country because of the way the house races,
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and there's house races in New Jersey, the former governor's son,
Congressman Kaine, that's a key race. There's a whole slew
of others as well. Talk to me about the impact
of how the momentum if the Democrats were to take
you know, four or five of these races. Of course,
there's Supreme Court races in Pennsylvania, although that is not
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as high profile as Governor and mayor.
Speaker 17 (50:45):
Give me your thoughts about what will be you know,
coming out.
Speaker 7 (50:48):
We're going to try to get d n C Chair
Martin on the show over the next few days and
see if that potentially, you know, could occur, to get
his perspective on where the party goes your the.
Speaker 25 (51:02):
Well, you know, I think it is true. We have
two googleratorial races this year and Virginia, New Jersey. You
feel like bell Weather's right, everybody's got our eyes on us,
because this is the moment to say, are we building momentum,
are we building strength and power as a Democratic party
to lead to the midterms where you know, Trump is
making it harder to get control of that House, but
we're gon we're gonna fight really hard to do it.
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We've already been very involved in those races, and so
I think it's really important to have that momentum, and
I want to and I want to combine it with
the conviction and the discipline of the party at the
federal level in holding fast to the shutdown to fight
for affordable health care for the residents of this country.
Speaker 24 (51:40):
Right.
Speaker 25 (51:41):
I think if they're holding firm there and we win
these races, it's going to make negotiations at the federal
level better for Democrats. They're going to have more leverage
back in the White House and in Congress. And I
don't really want to talk about if we don't lose them,
but I think that that momentum is critical to help
us catapult into the world we need to do in
the midterms, which is take back at least one of
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the houses so that we can begin to put the
brakes on so much of what he's doing. I will
just say that so much of what this president is
doing is extra legal, outside the bounds of you know,
appears to me outside the bounds of constitutional and legal
and separation of powers and balance of the three, you know,
parts of government. That it won't completely stop him, but
it will, I think, slow him down, and it will
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give people more trust in faith in the Democratic Party
again that we're here to do the work of the
real people of this country. So I a technically important
and I think we're building.
Speaker 26 (52:35):
Yeah, God, I.
Speaker 17 (52:37):
Agree with you. Were building for sure.
Speaker 7 (52:39):
We're also building is a lot of expensive groceries. You know,
I and you of course grew up in Massachusetts. You know,
I'm holding my Dunkin Donuts bag of coffee here. One
pound went from September fifteenth at the local S and
s to seven dollars on the fifteenth of September to
a weekly eight or fourteen dollars in ninety nine cents.
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This is the Trump tariff economy, and this is only
going to get worse. And you know, the Supreme Court
decision coming on the tariffs tomorrow. You will see if
the Supreme Court stands up or like everyone else, gets
to be the puppet tears. I'm wondering where you think,
you know, people in New Jersey are with the cost
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of living, the cost to coffee that dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 17 (53:27):
Is obviously in New Jersey as well as it is
in the Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (53:30):
To me, this is something that is going to I think,
really destroy the incumbent president because he came in on this.
Oh the economy is so bad on the bud it
Oh it's so bad. What is now? You know, and
the polls are showing this as well. Your thoughts they
are dead.
Speaker 25 (53:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, certainly his favorabilities are down because
everybody's looking at prices going up and it's getting harder
to do. And I think that's one reason it's so
important to have a democratic governor here, because while a
democratic governor can't can his irrational actions on the tariffs,
we can put some controls on prices in the state.
We can manage other big cost drivers like energy and housing.
(54:10):
But I do think that, you know, we need to
speak more truth to power as a party and point
out the fact that he can say whatever he wants.
It doesn't make it true, but you know, you look
at your grocery bill, I look at my grocery bill.
Families are getting squeezed, and for so many families in
New Jersey, we talk about asset limited, income constrained, but
employed people who live paycheck to paycheck. They're making decisions
(54:32):
between paying their rent, or paying their grocery bill, or
paying their medicine, or paying their utility bills. That's not
a way that we should be satisfied with people living.
And that's getting worse under this president because of all
the irrational, erratic things that he's doing. We can help
stop that with a democratic governor in New Jersey, and
we could stop his you know, his kind of kind
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of pathway of destruction if we could take back the
Congress next year.
Speaker 7 (54:59):
Well, pathways struction is a good way to describe it.
We're in a couple of minutes here left in the
segment with our good friend Deborah cornovaka again former deputy
chief of staff to Governor Phil Murphy outgoing governor and
hopefully to replace by Ms.
Speaker 17 (55:14):
Cheryl come early January.
Speaker 7 (55:17):
And of course deb is now also the New Jersey
Education Association government relations director. You know, we talked to
your friends out in California last week and mister Goldberg,
the president of the California Teachers Association, and we're talking
about all of the teachers that are so valuable the
(55:38):
educator's special ed. You know, we talked to your good
friend and mine and Melissa Thomlinson, the badass teachers every week.
And the thing that is important here is to have
a friend to public school educators in the corner office,
if you might, the governor's position in New Jersey. And
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that is a critical thing because I mean, you know, again,
the future drives up if you if you really squash
and of course it really would do just that. Talk
to me about it as a as an educator yourself,
and and to me, this is this is a priority
that you know needs to be taken care of because
(56:21):
as as Melissa has said, the funding has been cut off,
it's dried up. You can't get any programs done. You know,
you can't help people. And again, you know this is outrageous.
If you can't take care of the young, the future
dries up.
Speaker 17 (56:36):
It is that simple deb Yeah.
Speaker 25 (56:38):
And it tells it tells us something about the kind
of moral leader you are, right, which I don't think
we need a reminder of from this president. But he's
reminding us yet again, like, first of all, public democracy, right,
it is absolutely foundational, and we have to protect it.
A governor here that would follow the lead of President
Trump would bring in voucher programs, which would lead public
(57:00):
school money and lead to, you know, increase stress on
our public schools, fewer resources for kids who need the
most support who aren't going to those schools. They would
expand charter schools, which are generally, you know, under our
current law, kind of unaccountable to the same budgeting and
transparency practices, which is something we need to address. And
you know he's talking, he is, he's defunding critical programs
(57:21):
for our student support. But I'll also say, you know,
we have about half of or a third of the
eight hundred thousand people who rely on Snap benefits are
our students, and they're all coming to school hungry right
now because when they tried to go grocery shopping this weekend,
their snap cards weren't put back up, and our members
across the state are activating food drives because that's unacceptable
(57:42):
to them. It is morally reprehensible that he would do this.
And we also know that a child who comes to
school hungry, is not ready to learn. So our educators
are going to always step up to defend it, to
defend their students and their schools. And to do that, well, yeah,
we absolutely need an ally who's going to prioritize public
education as a foundation part of our democracy in the
State House. And then eventually we need to get back
(58:04):
to having one in the White House too.
Speaker 7 (58:06):
Yeah, that's for sure. You know, look, this is uh,
this is pretty pretty primary. I mean look around, you know,
the rest of the world. You know, you look at Scanning,
the Navy, you look at UK, France, Japan, all of
these folks they model originally after Roosevelt. But I've gone
(58:27):
on to do even better than what was laid out
by FDR in terms of education.
Speaker 17 (58:34):
And we need to catch up.
Speaker 7 (58:36):
And you're only going to catch up by investing in
education and not investing, you know, top down, because that
will never fly and it never works because only a
handful of people. That's the charge of school mentality. You know,
they they take the best kids from the public school and.
Speaker 17 (58:53):
Say, oh, look at us, We're we got great numbers.
Speaker 7 (58:55):
Well yeah, sure, anybody can take the cream of the crops.
What about the bottom? What happens to them, you know,
they just fall into the sewer. Yeah, so that's unfortunate thing.
I got thirty seconds. Deb tell us why this is
important for Democrats to win in New Jersey tomorrow.
Speaker 25 (59:13):
Well, this is this is a critical race for New Jersey.
This is a critical race for the middle class and
those trying to get into it. This is a critical
race for the nation and for the Democratic Party. This
will determine what kind of fight we have in the
next two years ahead to begin to gain momentum to
kind of redirect this country back to a true democracy
and away from the fascism that we're seeing practice right
now and towards you know, a country which takes care
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of of all of their residents, regardless of their immigration status,
regardless of their color, their religion, their sexual orientation. We've
got a lot of work to do, but we're prepared
to contribute our efforts tomorrow by electing Mikey Cheryl.
Speaker 7 (59:49):
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Now here's Jeff. We sweated it out on the streets.
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And not we rather the mansions of Glory and Suiciadneschines,
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Seven, Oh, it's so great to be in New Jersey, folks.
A little bit of the cover bands that uh play
Bruce Springsteen hits uh And of course it's a great.
Speaker 17 (01:07:55):
Born to run.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
It was Mondani born and Run, and all these folks
that are running, you know, for governor in Virginia, New
Jersey and of course Madnani in New York City, and
I think no doubt and led by the fantastic governor
in California, Gavin Newsom, who was a prototype in many ways.
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We're all going to be excited, I believe, on Wednesday.
And somebody who is going to be monitoring all of
these races and what is next is our next guest.
He is Mal Poindexter. He is the Mondays with Mel.
He is of course our outreach director here at the
Jeff Santo Show and formerly NAACP. Brockton, Massachusetts Vice President.
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And it is so good to have the DNC member
on this election eve with us. Mister Poindexter, Hello sir,
how are.
Speaker 10 (01:08:53):
You well, Miss Santos?
Speaker 17 (01:08:55):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
Are you excited? Tommy A big day, I'm telling.
Speaker 17 (01:09:02):
You, big day right now?
Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
Yes, yeah, And it's good to be in New York,
New Jersey today as we debut.
Speaker 17 (01:09:12):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
So we're talking to our friends and then and then
we just talked to Deborah Cornavaka used to be the
chief of deputy chief of staff to Governor Phil Murphy
in that race. It looks good right now. Four or
five points, I think is about where things stand, uh
in New Jersey. And of course Mamdani the nominee endorsed
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by Hakeem Jeffries. We look to have on in the
in the coming weeks, hopefully next next year or a
year after I guess twenty seven, will be the new
Speaker of the House.
Speaker 17 (01:09:46):
God we need one.
Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
We need we need to have a massive improvement there too.
And Uh, mister Jeffries is just that. So, uh, You're
going to be keeping an eye on a lot of
these things. And of course, our friends in California Prop
fifty we may in a major announcement next week, I
mean next week next hour on a doubleheader tomorrow night
in both San Francisco and Los Angeles as well.
Speaker 17 (01:10:10):
Mister mel what say you? What are you looking at?
Speaker 10 (01:10:14):
Well, first of all, I just want everyone and I'm
pretty sure in New York and New Jersey's already heard
about this. But the federal judge you know, of course,
intercepted Trump's attempt to try to seize control of the
voting process, the ballots and use that turn it over
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to DOGE. Okay, sensitive voter information. Okay, this is all
part of his intimidation. Remember you were talking about this
last week where he's you know, over in like California
with the Pop fifty, trying to use the DOJ to
try to intimidate voters over there. So not being satisfied
with no, He's now trying to use a his his authority,
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as you know, the occupant of the White House, to
try to seize control of the voting process. Okay, Now,
on one hand. On the other hand, I'm.
Speaker 22 (01:11:12):
Sure you voted.
Speaker 10 (01:11:13):
Your listeners have heard that he's talking about five hundred
you know, national Guard troops in each state to supposedly
help and anticipate problems.
Speaker 17 (01:11:26):
On the ground. Okay, destroy people, that's what he's gonna do.
Give me a I mean, this is what this is
all about.
Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
It's intimidation for those key communities who have always been
die hard Democratic supporters. Okay, So if I if I
can't win you over by telling you the truth, then
let me send in somebody to try to intimidate you
so you're don't come out and vote.
Speaker 17 (01:11:53):
Yeah, it comes to baseball bet exactly.
Speaker 30 (01:11:55):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (01:11:56):
You know the way they roll.
Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
You know, look, they they're they're well known at BS.
They're well known as being the con men, and of
course Trump is the ultimate con man. And you know
if they can't do it, they're gonna cheat. You know
they they were caught redheaded in twenty twenty with Georgia.
You know, I need I need an interview. Votes here,
you gotta find them for me. You know that the
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famous call to uh Rafts and Perger, the Secretary of State.
Speaker 17 (01:12:24):
You know, this is this is how they roll and
and people better.
Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
Wake up, you know, you know, those those folks that
are waiting in line to vote, wake up. Smell the
coffee and you know it's gonna cost you a lot
more thanks to Donald Trump. Here as we bring out
the the fourteen dollars bag of Duncan Donuts.
Speaker 17 (01:12:46):
Coffee for you.
Speaker 7 (01:12:47):
Uh, thank you, Donald Trump on tariff. You know this
is this is where we are. You really want to
keep this up? Come on, folks, you're gonna put You're
gonna put. Yes, you're gonna have to put a lamp
on this. And the way you do that is you
elect democratic governors in New Jersey and of course in Virginia.
And you have a standout democratic mayor of New York
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City with the biggest microphone of all in the major
media market in America in New York City, number one
media market, and of course across the across the Great
America is another great communicator in Gavin Newsom. Together, that
is how you push back and you take back our democracy.
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And I tell you I was saying this earlier in
my commentary and I know you understand this. I think
it is incumbent upon mister Martin, and we're hoping to
try to get them on the show sometime this week.
Let the outsiders lead you. It is not about Washington insiders.
It's about Newsom, it's about Mamdanie, it's about Crockett's, it's
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about the two new governors. Let them speak, put them
at the front of the lines. And I tell you
they understand. They know how to talk, they know how
to communicate, And that to me is so critical.
Speaker 17 (01:14:11):
You agreemel, Well.
Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
Yeah, remember we were talking last week that it's the
people who are on the ground.
Speaker 17 (01:14:17):
Okay, it's those.
Speaker 10 (01:14:18):
Those governors, mayors, It's it's the the DNC members like myself.
It's it's the communicators like you who are out there
actually talking to the people. And I've had this conversation
with our chair chair Martin, and I've I've expressed this
to him. You know how important it is to let
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let the a team on the ground, Let them drive
the conversation. Okay, you you you're you're sitting there, your
coach on the field, you lift that. You let your
your number one quarterback drive it. You don't have to
worry about it.
Speaker 17 (01:14:55):
You've got a good defensive line. Let them do it.
Speaker 10 (01:14:57):
You've got people who actually are out there talk to
people that people respect and feel that they understand and
can can empathize with what they're going through day to day. Okay,
this you're right, this is not Washington. This is politics
are local. All politics are local. It's what's happening on
the ground in your particular area. And it's the people
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who are talking directly to.
Speaker 17 (01:15:21):
You that you feel.
Speaker 10 (01:15:22):
You feel my pain, you know what I'm going through.
You understand the situations that we're experiencing. You know, hey,
that fourteen dollars coffee is a key example of what
you're experiencing. And you know, and exactly the people go
into Duncans, who know, hey, look, this is what I'm
dealing with every day. Okay, so I feel your pain.
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I'm standing next to you in line, so I know
what you're feeling. That's what I told that's what we
need to do.
Speaker 17 (01:15:50):
Thank you, mister Trump. Right, it's just your tariffs.
Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
You know, they're going to try to get the Supreme Court,
you know, to bend down and you know, once again
take a knee for mister Trump. You know, I mean,
this is this is the typical you know, b aske
that we're getting from the Supreme Court. Wake up, Wake
up Roberts, Wake up Tavanaugh. You know this is you know,
you've got kids going to college in uh in Cambridge
at Harvard. This is what they're gonna be paying. You know,
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think about that, Okay, And this.
Speaker 10 (01:16:18):
Is what people are feeling. So it's not like it's
some out of out of touch thing that people don't experience.
Your experiences every day and everybody experiences it. Everybody feels
that economic pain. And that's the thing that we as
Democrats have to continue to translate to people. We feel it,
we understand it. We're standing next to you, and we're
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gonna help you resolve it. That's what we're fighting for.
That's what tomorrow is all about, is fighting for your
right to turn this economy around so that people like
you and I and everybody who goes to work every
day can feel like you could that somebody's out there
actually listening to them.
Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
We're talking with a man that you want in your
foxhole and know I want him in my foxhole. That
of course is mel Poindexter, d NC WRAP from the
Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts, former vice president of the Fantastic
NAACP and Brockton Massachusetts, home of the true fighters Rocky
Marciano and marvelous Marvin Hagler. And of course he goes
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in that same category, does mister mel So?
Speaker 17 (01:17:25):
Eight three three five four five five three three three.
Speaker 7 (01:17:28):
Is the phone number to join is Kevin will let
us know who we have on the phone lines in
my in my ear And you can repeat that again, Kevin,
I couldn't quite catch you, but I must say this,
mel Do you feel as I do that, to quote
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the great Tracy Chapman, that the tables are starting to turn?
Talk about a revolution again. We believe in a peaceful revolution,
but that's a.
Speaker 17 (01:17:59):
Story from other day.
Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
I really feel that what we saw a couple of
Saturdays ago, seven million strong across this country and in
massive cities in San Francisco and Chicago and New York,
but in small towns you know, where fifty one hundred,
two hundred and fifty people showed up. And to me,
this is an example of people saying enough is enough.
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You know, it's the fourteen dollars for the dunkin Donuts coffee,
It's it's the outrageous stuff that he's doing in Canada.
And my friends, they don't want to come here. They
don't want to go to Florida. We talked to Doug McClain,
the hockey coach who list half the year in Florida
and half the year in Prince Edward Island.
Speaker 17 (01:18:39):
He says, it's outrageous. I'm caught in the middle here.
Why for what? For what reason? And this is what
you know, America is now known for being a bully.
That's right, I mean right.
Speaker 10 (01:18:51):
Seven million people two weekends ago came out and said
we've had enough. And you saw the translation of that
in New Jersey, in New York. In you have people
right now in Virginia who are mobilized. You have it
happening in California Prop fifty. We've talked about how Prop
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fifty is ignited across the country that Democrats can now
see and feel that I don't have to accept what's
coming down from the White House, that I actually can
fight back. And you see it happening in each state.
You know, tomorrow's going to be crucial in terms of
showing Washington that we're not gonna we are not standing
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for it. You see the movement in terms of the
governor's race. You see the movement in terms of the
mayor's race. You see the movement in terms of the
fight back against this illegal ill redistricting that the Republicans
are trying to do. So we told them you want
to play, that we're gonna play. We can play just
as hardball as you do. And you see that with
Prop fifty now that they see that we're not just
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gonna stand by an idly take it.
Speaker 17 (01:19:58):
What are they doing now?
Speaker 10 (01:20:00):
Now he's talking about sending in truth to try to
intimidate people. What's he talking about now, I'm going to
send in a DJ to try.
Speaker 17 (01:20:06):
To intimidate people.
Speaker 10 (01:20:08):
You can't intimidate seven million people. They don't scare easy.
You're not scared, and I'm not scared. And we're ready
to go, and we're in that foxhole and we're going
to fight till the very end. And tomorrow's proved positive
that people's voices are going to be heard.
Speaker 7 (01:20:26):
Don't mess with Massachusetts, don't mess with another forty nine
states too. That is the calling card here as we
talk with our good friend Mail Poindexter. We'll go to
Minnesota in a minute and talk to our good friend John,
who I know has some energy and some ideas that
he wants to share with mister mel again the phone
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number to join us eight three three five four five
five three three three. I want to talk about something
that I saw that's pretty amazing. And again the fantastic
candidate of Mamdani again endorsed by Jefferies, endorsed by Hawkfell,
the Governor of New York, endorsed by so many of course,
Bernie and AOC and all that. But to me, you know,
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are you know it's so important to be able to
have that great communicator. He's getting young people. I mean,
they're registering in droves, which is going to be really
the reason that he wins by double digits. And my
guess in the end that is so important. How much
did we talk about this, you know, early on in
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the last couple of weeks we talked about it off
the year, what happened to young people back in UH
and then twenty four you know that Trump had a
lot of folks that he had bamboozled with a capital B.
And to me, mom, Donnie said, oh yeah, I can
play that game too, and he is doing it, and
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I think it's a blueprint for democrats.
Speaker 17 (01:21:54):
Writ large your thoughts. Then we'll go to.
Speaker 10 (01:21:59):
Having great communicators, people who can actually talk to people,
talk to people about what they're experiencing. That's right, and
did I talk about that? Exactly What happened in twenty
twenty four was the fact that we lost a lot
of that that key constituency because they felt we weren't
listening to them, we didn't hear them, and we didn't
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understand what their perspective in terms of the future. He
has identified, I'm listening, okay, and I'm part of the
big team. Okay, So it's not we're not just completely
ignoring you. We're actually listening. And you can see it
by their response to him is that it's a matter
of I see someone who feels what I'm going through
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and I can relate to and that that translates hopefully
across the country where we're gonna use that as the blueprint.
This is the blueprint is part of the twenty twenty
sixth strategy to take back the House. That's what we're
gonna do. People like people that the great communicators, bringing
them out, bringing up out to people moving across the country,
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and telling everybody we're all in this.
Speaker 17 (01:23:04):
Together, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
All right, Somebody that I think agrees with you and
has questions and comments. Is our good friend John in
the Twin Cities there in Minneapolis. You're next with Mail Poindexter.
Go right ahead, mister John de.
Speaker 18 (01:23:24):
Yeah, people are tired of a politics that supports the
one percent. We buried those people in the nineteen thirties
with a new Deal, and we created the largest middle
class in the entire world right here in this country.
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But the same policies were pretty much adopted throughout the
First World, in Europe and after the war. So like,
why do we want to go back act you know,
to the days of.
Speaker 17 (01:24:04):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 18 (01:24:05):
The f Scott Fitzgerald play the great gaps.
Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
We don't need any more great gap. Moment that that's done. Well,
you did mister Trump have his party, you know, you know,
looking like he's trying to be you know, great Gatsby again.
Speaker 18 (01:24:27):
Yeah, it's like you know Louis the sixteenth, you know,
having Versailles and having all of the party as well.
The peasants were revolting and basically starving to death. And
essentially this is what the Republicans brought to this country
unnecessarily and maliciously. And you know, I grew up on
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Long Island, so I can tell you I've seen the
set of The Great Gats. I know what that it's
what that.
Speaker 8 (01:24:59):
Was all all about.
Speaker 18 (01:25:01):
From a young age, I learned that, you know, these
people lived so excessively and extracted so much from everyone,
the labor that they extracted and not paid their employees
when they were working like sixty hours a week. And
then the same in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (01:25:22):
I mean you know the fact, John, Yeah, I mean
they went to Newport, you know, and and they came
up to Boston.
Speaker 17 (01:25:33):
And right right all the way.
Speaker 18 (01:25:39):
Yet believe the Vanderbilts, they actually they actually had their
own private highway from one escape to the other. And
then if they got bored, they could you know, swing
across the Long Island Sound to Newport where they served
up gems in sandboxes to their guests while most people
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were living hand to mouth, I mean, they were living
in ghettos. It's undescribable inequality that they created. And and
for what this is not the promise of democracy, the promise.
Speaker 17 (01:26:16):
Of the.
Speaker 7 (01:26:19):
You know, take, take, take whoever it is, you know,
with Tom Brady takes the cups even though he's a
millionaire athlete, and uh, you know.
Speaker 17 (01:26:28):
He takes the free cups. That's what the rich do.
Speaker 31 (01:26:31):
Go ahead and mil you know, and and John's hitting
on it the fact that you know, he's trying to
create a split society, the haves and the have not,
and we're on the side of the FDR.
Speaker 10 (01:26:45):
Everybody is equal, but has an equal right at the table,
and each has a responsibility to look out for the other.
And that's exactly the point that John's making is that
whereas you know, the occupant is trying to create the
society of lifting eat cake and those who don't have
don't deserve. And that is one of the key things
that we're fighting against. We're fighting back against that because
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we're not going to allow him to turn a society
into a have and have not society. It's not happening.
That's why we're fighting. That's why you saw seven seven
million people out there. And guess what it's going to
continue to be that until we take take back the
government that belongs, the democracy that belongs to the people.
Speaker 7 (01:27:28):
That is why again I want mel Poindexter in my
fox soul. Thank you John for the call. I want
you there too. You know, folks, we care, We care
because you know we're we're talking about this. We could
be Oh well, let's just you know, let's let's just
negotiate and you know, let mister Schumer and mister Jeffries
(01:27:48):
talk there and you know, and they'll they'll handle it out. Yeah,
you know, you let that happen, you know, you force Democrats,
you know, with their hands tied behind their back. Oh,
to come and mister Johnson and miss Thune, we'll figure
it out. And then Trump will backstab you as he
normally does, you know, as he waits there. Oh well,
I don't want to get involved until they settle it,
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and then I'll get involved.
Speaker 14 (01:28:09):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
This is the kind of lead leadership from behind, you know,
I mean, somebody does not have your back, he'll throw
you into the fox hole. That's what he'll do. Uh,
mister Trump, Thank you so much. John Now just about
a minute here. Look, I think tomorrow can go a
number of different ways. And you know, in my view,
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Democrats stick to your progressive ideas that FDR started and
have been, you know, gone in a lot of different
ways with Kennedy and Johnson before Vietnam and Obama, uh
and Bernie Sanders and so forth. We do that we
win your final thoughts exactly.
Speaker 10 (01:28:48):
We I mean, those are values that translate culturally, they
translate gender, they translate racially, they you know, they translate.
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Thirty three minutes past the hour.
Speaker 7 (01:33:41):
It is the Jeff Santo Show that you are tuned into.
You know, a bunch of years ago, had the great
opportunity to talk with our next guest, Alex Siteswell, he
was a fantastic producer, a reporter with MSNBC and and
you know it's so great. I saw him the other
(01:34:03):
day on one of the MSNBC's afternoon shows. But the
fantastic thing is a great journalist and a very good
person in you know, this is why you know, I
believe in the human being. You know you're talking about AI.
You talk about the idea. You really want good people
(01:34:26):
and positions of power.
Speaker 17 (01:34:28):
Now, the.
Speaker 7 (01:34:31):
Key thing here is people. You know, sometimes you get
to New York City. I think there's an old adage,
you know, if you stay too long, you grow too hard.
If you go to San Francisco, you grow too soft
to stay too long. Well, my good friend Alex cites
Wald again formerly MSNBC political reporter producer, now is in
(01:34:52):
Maine as the deputy editor the Mid Coast Villager, and
he joins us via telephone. I belie, Alex. So great
to have you back on, my friend. Thank you, and
thank you for doing the right thing. I can imagine
it's a little bit easier than battling Manhattan traffic there
(01:35:13):
at thirty Rock, Uh, where you are now on the
coast of Maine.
Speaker 17 (01:35:18):
It's great to have you, my friend.
Speaker 8 (01:35:19):
How are you, hey, Jeff, thanks so much for having me,
and I appreciate that those.
Speaker 38 (01:35:24):
Kind words in the ninth intro, Well, no, it's uh,
it's honest to God, it's it's you know, it's who
you are, and I think that's that's a fantastic and
I would love to find out, you know, how you
decided to make this transition.
Speaker 7 (01:35:41):
You know, it's not the first time, of course, in
the journalist leave you know, the big city of Manhattan
and New York City to go to a smaller place.
But you know, Maine. You know, I'm a New Englander.
It's a fantastic place in the summertime.
Speaker 17 (01:35:55):
People love it. Winter time. You've got to be tough,
but I know you can handle that. You made the decision.
Speaker 8 (01:36:03):
Yeah. So I was, as you said, a reporter for
MSNBC and then NBC News for fifteen years in DC,
traveled all across the country covering presidential campaign, senate campaign.
I think I went to like forty four states on
the job, and you know, it was a great job
(01:36:25):
considering what's happening in all of media at the moment.
But I was looking to do something a little different.
And then it was really those circumstances beyond my control
that let me do this, which is my mom got
sick and she lived here. She raised me as a
single mother. I'm an only child, so I knew that
(01:36:46):
that day would come at some point. Came sooner than
I hoped her expected. But I was going back and
forth and from DC to Maine, and then in twenty
twenty two she was unfortunately, her health was out good.
She's doing okay, But we decided to move up full time,
and so I kept doing the job for NBC here,
(01:37:09):
which was very different. But then last year I heard
about this new newspaper that was starting up. They it's
the local paper in the town that I live in.
There were these four historic papers that go back to
eighteen hundreds that unfortunately were failing. Like so many other papers,
forty percent of newspapers have closed down and passed. Local
(01:37:31):
newsapers closed down in the past twenty years. Seventy three
percent of reporters for those papers out of work. So
these papers were no different. But the owner decided that
instead of just shutting them down, he wanted to try
to take one big swing to see if he can
make something work. So roll the papers together have this
really great vision for how to re energize local paper,
(01:37:54):
reinvent local news, and that is the Mid Coast Villager,
which is where I work now. We opened a caf
Fay earlier this year to be a place in town
where people can come and act and connect with each other,
pitch us stories. We hold events there. We also have
our owner also a little hotel next door where we're
(01:38:14):
holding writing retreats. We just last month had our first
writing retreat. So we're trying to come up with other
ways that a local newspaper and a local news outlet
can be vital and relevant and important in the community
and also make money in a sustainable way because advertising
doesn't cut it anymore. Subscriptions don't cut it anymore.
Speaker 17 (01:38:36):
Oh, it's much different.
Speaker 7 (01:38:37):
You know, it's fascinating because today we're debuting on WGHTAM
fifteen hundred and ninety eight three FM, and we just
had on the program director Taylor Stirling. We're talking about
AM radio, and a lot of younger people gen z
Ers and so forth are fascinated with the sound and
the course. You know, in some car radios, the older
(01:39:00):
ones you don't have the FM and you know, obviously
they're all still on FM too, but you know, AM radio,
small weekly papers or daily papers, you know, they say, oh,
that's the thing of the past. You know, Jeff, you're
you know, you're living in the twentieth century. I'm like, well,
why can't we have it in the twenty first century?
You know, if you had good journalism, you know, in
the twentieth century, and you had it on radio, and
(01:39:20):
you had it on black and white TV, and you
had it on in the print, why why can't you
do it again? So I think there's a need. I
think what you guys are doing is serving the public
in Maine. And we're going to get into the big
Senate race coming up in a minute here. But I
think that you know, you're you're really ahead of the
curve because I think people want to be able to
(01:39:42):
connect and they want to connect human being to human being.
You know, you can go and get a cup of
coffee and you know and talk to people about you know,
well what's going on, who's going to win the Senate race?
And you know, what are the issues and how can
they get solved? And I think somebody who's doing that
and door to door is in New York City and Mom, Donnie,
I mean when he gets on a bus. You and
(01:40:04):
I have covered a lot of elections, right, you get it.
The last time I've seen somebody get on a bus,
not you know, the John McCain bus when it was
lavished with you know, bars and stuff. I'm talking about
you know a bus that you know probably smells from urine,
and you know, you get you know a lot of
annoyed people because the bus, you know, goes at two
miles an hour. As mom Donnie was talking about this,
(01:40:27):
you know people, that's what people do every day. They
don't have the comforts of Donald Trump and limousines and
everything else. And I think this kind of all flies
to where you are and thank you to be a caregiver.
Speaker 17 (01:40:38):
I am also one.
Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
It to me is a wonderful thing that you're doing
to help your mom as well. But talk to me
about that because I think all of this kind of connects.
Speaker 8 (01:40:51):
Yeah, I completely agree, and I love what you're saying
about AM radio. There I do feel like I mean,
you know we're doing We of course have a web site.
We actually just launched relaunched our website today. We redesigned it.
Weird have are on social media. We've seen huge growth
on Instagram. We're doing all that stuff. But the live
events and the physical newspaper I think really connect with people.
(01:41:15):
And you mentioned gen Z being interested in AM radio.
We've really seen that too, Like The historic newspaper subscription
subscriptions were you know, older folks, people who had subscribed forever,
and then it kind of dropped off a cliff. We've
seen our demographics younger. Those people have stayed, but the
younger people have started to come on. People who have
never subscribed to a newspaper in their life like what
(01:41:36):
we're doing. They think it's interesting. And there's so much
backlash too. We're all spending too much time on our phones.
We're worried about AI that having a physical paper or
a physical radio in your car. It's people like it,
and a lot of gen Z people like it too.
And it's interesting if you look at like, you know,
we all know about Vinyl records, how they they sell
(01:41:57):
off a cliff and then they made this comeback. And
the same is true with book sales. Physical book sales
are up year over year for the past like five
or six years. So we hope that we can do
that with local newspapers. But you're absolutely right that it's
all about connecting with people on a human level, meeting
them where they are in a real way. And I
think just as politicians do that, we as journalists and
(01:42:22):
reporters have to do that too, because we have to
represent the community. We have to be where people are,
and I talk about that with our staff all the time.
I want us to be visible. I want us to
be known. I want our community to know that when
there's an ice storm and the power goes out, our
power goes out too. That our kids are going are
(01:42:43):
going to the same schools as their kids. We're rooting
for the same teams. We're going to the same place
to go trick or treating on Halloween. We are members
of this community. We care about this community. And I
think just because local news has eroded so much, the
only reporters and journalism that people spposed to us coming
out of New York or DC. They don't know those people.
(01:43:03):
And at the Central Park they got superpowers that we
could be closer.
Speaker 17 (01:43:11):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Now, I was just saying that, you know a lot
of those DC folks, you know, they follow the president,
they follow the members of Congress, but they don't get
a chance to get out to see you know, Camden, Maine,
or even you know the south coast here in Massachusetts.
I'm holding up you can't see it, but it's the
Sunday section of the of the Boston Globe, and you
(01:43:32):
know they were ranking in the arts section. You know,
two very fantastic shows from the twentieth century, by the
way Seinfeld and All in the Family, you know, two
very iconic shows, one from the seventies, one from the nineties.
And you know, so you know, you can learn a
lot and it's just great to feel a newspaper. I
(01:43:53):
get it every day and to me, it's it's so
important to have that. Okay, So you got a guy
who's very authentic, authentic as as the newspaper that you
are the deputy editor of. He is running for senate,
mister Planter. He has captured you know, a lot of people,
(01:44:16):
you know, seven hundred, eight hundred people in these different
events that he hosts.
Speaker 17 (01:44:21):
And these are talents of like four thousand.
Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
People, so you know, half the population out or less, uh,
you know, are are are coming to these events. So
you know, there's been a lot of hooplot because he
said certain things and he has a tattoo and all
of these things that it was you know, awful awful
sign of you know, similar to the Nazi symbol. And
(01:44:47):
you know, but this guy is is really authentic. And
again I mentioned the old Network interviewing you and you
you were talking about the fact that there's such a
disconnect between Washington again and and the rest of the world.
Speaker 17 (01:45:01):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:45:01):
I was talking to our good friend DNC member, a
good friend, Mail Poindexter, and I was telling him. I says,
you know, the Democrats better understand that their communicators are
outside the beltway. So the more you have people outside
the beltway. And he's a d NC guy, and he says,
one hundred percent, those are the people that can communicate.
(01:45:22):
Whether it's Mom Dannie, or whether there's Newsome or whether it's
Jessica Crockett, whatever, you need people outside to be able
to do that. And Planteur is the ultimate outside outsider,
a fisherman and a former a VET. It's to me
it fits right into what we've been talking about the
whole time. Talk to me about your experiences with him
(01:45:43):
and seeing him on the stump.
Speaker 8 (01:45:47):
Yeah, I mean, it's a guy who came out of nowhere.
He's from the next county over from me in Maine,
but no one had heard of him until he announced.
No one here. People knew him in his little small town.
People where I am knew his wife, because he's married
to a woman from the next town over for me.
But they didn't know him, but just exploded onto the scene,
(01:46:08):
both locally and nationally. And I had a feeling early
on that he was going to be a thing. I
don't know if he's gonna win, but I knew that,
you know, when I was first texted about talking to
a harbor master of Sullivan, it's a town of twelve hundred,
he's the harbor master. It's running for Senate, and I'm like, okay, sure,
you know that's nice, but sure, I'll get on the phone.
And then I was just blown away by how fully
(01:46:32):
formed his message was, how charismatic he was, and instantly
caught fire. Then Janet Mills, our governor, who had been
kind of waffling all summer, Will she run? Will she
not run? She was clearly the top choice of the
d SEC and the Democratic Establishment, if you will, They
really wanted her to run. She finally gets in the race,
(01:46:55):
it looks like she might not and two days later
this stuff comes out. You know, we don't know time
was it her, but the timing is, and certainly Graham
Platner and all of his supporters just take it for
granted that this stuff getting out was an attack, as
they see it, from the democratic establishment. Now there's real
(01:47:17):
stuff in here. We shouldn't, you know, discount it. But
he talks about these Reddit posts. He was essentially, you know,
posting in a way, in a word that's not appropriate
to say on radio, but as a common term on
the Internet when you just throw stuff out there to
kind of provoke people. He had just gotten back from
his four combat tours and the tattoo, he said he
(01:47:41):
didn't He got it eighteen years ago with his marine
with a bunch of other marines. They had lost a
buddy and they got it kind of in remembrance. And
you know, it's a thing marines do. They love skulls
and snakes and scary looking things. They had no idea.
He says that it was a tattoo that was used
by the SF And I think people here get it
(01:48:02):
to get him. They believe him because they feel like
they know him, because even if they don't know him personally,
they know people like him. He looks like a lot
of people around here. He talks like a lot of
people around here. He's tapped into the issues that are
kind of nonpartisan for a lot of people around here.
So over the past couple of weeks, as I've been
(01:48:23):
reading all the national discourse out of DC, his campaign
is over. It's toast. How could Democrats get themselves into
such a mess. But then I'm driving to work every
day and I'm passing a dozen Grand Platinner signs, and
I'm going to the grocery store and I talk to
somebody who's like, I can't believe they're doing this about
grand Platner. And then I go to his event and
(01:48:43):
there's seven as just saying, seven hundred people there in
a town of I think twenty one hundred. He had
eighteen hundred people in Portland yesterday. This is the huge
disconnect and people here, for the most part of the Democrats,
let's say, you know, it's not everybody, but Democrats who
like him are willing to give him a past. I've
found a small handful of voters, and I've tried to
(01:49:05):
find people. I said on TV that I couldn't find anyone.
I got a text message like a few hours after
I got off TV. I found one, and then I
found a couple of the one. But yeah, and then
I've and then I've got, I got secondhand. I got
some people sent me text message, you know, screenshots of
text messages of their friends telling them that they were
(01:49:27):
leaving him. But it's it's not a flood, is the point.
You know, It's it's a it's a trickle. And the
signs are still up. So I'm not saying he's out
of the woods here. I think, if you know, another
shoe drops, we could see something different. But he is
connecting with something that is really being missed, I think.
And I was pleased to see two national reports out today,
(01:49:48):
one Boston Globe, the other NBC News, my former colleague,
and then on Friday once for the New York Times.
Basically all three of them said the same thing, that
these are reporters who came to Maine. They said, you know,
I can and I thought his campaign was done. I
came to Maine, I talked to people, and I was wrong.
He is still alive and still resilient.
Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
Talking with Alex Eiswald, he is, of course the former
MSNBC producer reporter, a good friend of the program.
Speaker 17 (01:50:16):
We've been talking to him for years.
Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
He is now a fabulous deputy editor The Mid Coast
Villager there in the Camden, Maine area, and of course
has been attending some of these of Graham Plantner, the
candidate for US Senate, and the polls he's probably about
a week or two old, had him about fourteen points
ahead of Collins, while the governor, Miss Mills, was not
(01:50:39):
a bad candidate, but doesn't have the dynamism, doesn't have
the connection I think that mister Planter has with many
of those fellow manors. You know, Planter had like a
fourteen point lead, I believe Alex and it was nip
and tuck one point for and that obviously within the
margin of era for Mills against Collins. They kind of
know each other's kind of the same, of the same,
(01:51:01):
you know, it's it's a cousin and a sister.
Speaker 17 (01:51:04):
You know, there there isn't much difference.
Speaker 7 (01:51:06):
Even though Mills is a you know, is a Democrat
and will will obviously fight against Trump.
Speaker 17 (01:51:11):
They had their.
Speaker 7 (01:51:12):
Own little uh to do back when when the Democratic
governors were there in the White House. But it's you know,
if you really want massive change, you know the change
that you know, our friend Mandani has had in New
York City, if you want change that you know, again,
brings people together and understands that you know, people coming together,
(01:51:39):
you know, fifty by the hundreds in small towns that
have two thousand people in them. Then that's that's the
that's what you're going to get, and we'll see what happens.
But I think I think one other thing too, you know,
the every time you have an election, right the whole
world kind of stops. You know, Bernie and AOC are
probably going, you know, back and forth to New York
(01:52:00):
City every weekend to help amm Dannie. Well that once
that election happens tomorrow, then I think that people like
Bernie and AOC and some of their folks that have
worked in the campaigns in Bernie in sixteen and twenty,
they're going to be released, you know, from their campaigns
(01:52:21):
and maybe some of them can kind of come in
and assist the locals and assist Planter.
Speaker 17 (01:52:27):
That's my hope, because.
Speaker 7 (01:52:28):
You know, if he needs, you know, folks from the
outside desert of of you know, to connect with you know,
the media and with other members of the US Senate.
I think that Bernie and AOC have proved time and
time again that you know, they can connect with moderate Democrats.
We saw this in the American Rescue Plan in twenty
(01:52:49):
twenty one when he and Biden, you know, locked arms
and they he was at Biden was at sixty percent.
So it's there, and maybe the timing might be just
right for mister Plant through your thoughts on that.
Speaker 8 (01:53:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's timing is a great Plant because
while the excuse me, the New York City election is tomorrow.
This despite all of the attention that the main Democratic
city primary are gotten, the election is until June ninth,
So we have a lot of game to play here,
so to speak. Uh, And I think, you know, we'll
see a number of big names, I'm sure coming in.
(01:53:25):
And I think that the support, the kind of air cover,
if you will, from people like Bernie Sanders for Grand
Platner has helped reassure those people who like him, who
want to support him but are worried that he's no
longer viable or that he, you know, is a Nazi.
I don't think he's a Nazi for the record, but
(01:53:47):
agree with you Bernie Sanders, Yeah, I don't think Bernie.
Speaker 17 (01:53:51):
And Jewish by the way, people know that is going
to be hanging around with them.
Speaker 8 (01:53:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's half of the thing
but Platner gets hit for is that he his family
is is you know, he has some wealthy members of
his family, which is the common thing here in Maine
that you know, the first generation comes here to summer,
the second generation settled, likes it so much they settled down,
and the third generation they're artists or farmers or oystermen
(01:54:18):
or you know. This is a this is a common
kind of main thing. Half of his family is Jewish.
I talked to his best friend, who uh who Planner
went to his barmitsa and we it doesn't really matter
because we have fifteen years of his political id in
all those Reddit posts, some of which are ugly, but
there's not a hint of right wing nationalists, anti semic
(01:54:40):
did none of that. There's there's you know, there's there's
like rude comments about gay people, but there's nothing that
would hint about anything vaguely Nazi. But but the.
Speaker 39 (01:54:52):
The main thing though that that I think it's been missed,
is that to your point, on those polls, Mills should
be dominating this raid exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:55:03):
She's the governor, she's been elected twice. Once she got in,
that should have been it you know, he should have
been kind of pushed aside, and the fact that she
was behind him in those polls and that she hasn't
that he has been able to take up so much oxygen,
I think speaks to her weakness as a candidate. She's
seventy seven. She'd be the oldest freshman senator in history.
(01:55:26):
Undercuts one of Susan Collins's big weaknesses, which is her
own age. But she's younger, she's seventy four, So I
will count a conversation I had literally today, I walked
into a store and somebody said, hey, I saw you
on Instagram, you know, the post good job. This is
an older woman herself, a woman in her seventy and
she's like, I like Janet Mills. I think she's done
(01:55:47):
a good job as governor. But I want fresh leadership.
And I don't think people understand how frustrated and betrayed
we feel by the Democratic Party after twenty twenty four,
the fiasco that was Joe Biden insting you had to
stay in the race Kamala Harris, and then losing to Trump.
Speaker 17 (01:56:06):
There is a lot of frustration.
Speaker 7 (01:56:09):
You know, again, Harris was handed an s sandwich.
Speaker 17 (01:56:13):
If you might you know Biden.
Speaker 7 (01:56:15):
I've been I was calling for Biden to a want
of criticism for this, but that he should have left
in twenty twenty three. You know, you had a couple
of emergencies in both Ukraine and eventually Israel, and he
could have been all in on that. He could have said, look,
I'm gonna I'm gonna leave this to the Democratic primary.
You know, a whole slew of people could have run,
and probably Harris would have won because she was the
(01:56:39):
the VP, and Biden would have been leaving on a
high as opposed to this whole lingering thing and the
Hawfel debate where you know, didn't know where he was
and and that whole thing, and it just it put everything,
you know, on a track that was awful. And then
you have a good communicator in Trump, you know, I mean.
Speaker 17 (01:56:58):
As a con man.
Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
You know, he's you know, convicted thirty four times, the
whole thing, but he's a great communicator. And if you
don't communicate and you're always on the defensive, as Harris was,
particularly in the final months, you know, you're not going
to be able to pull it off.
Speaker 17 (01:57:15):
So I think that's exactly why, you.
Speaker 8 (01:57:18):
Know, and it wasn't the presidency. They lost the House
and the Senate too. You know, they lost races that
they should not have lost. They lost ground with Hispanics
and African Americans and Asian Americans, people who were kind
of taken for granted as Democrats, and I feel like
as a political party, not you have one job which
(01:57:39):
has nothing to do with policy or ideology. You have
one job, which is to win elections, and then you
figure out all the rest of those policy things. But
it's to win elections. And when a party failed to
win elections, they always get a rebellion in their base,
as they should frankly, because you failed at your one job.
This is what happened to Republicans after two thousand and
(01:58:01):
eight with the Key Party. You know, Obama win huge
majorities in the House and Senate and there's a total
outright rebellion. And we're having, I think a moment like
that in the Democratic.
Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
Party, no doubt, Alex sites Wall. There's been our guest
here on the Jeff Santio Show. Hopefully next time we
can get the video go and get a chance to
see you live from Maine.
Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Man.
Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
That's just fantastic to say that actually out loud. You know,
I must tell you. I think that what you're going
to be seeing tomorrow night in both the coast in
California and New York City are two fantastic communicators from
the outside.
Speaker 17 (01:58:42):
Who I have understood.
Speaker 7 (01:58:44):
And you know, if my opinion, if Gavin Newsom was
a nominee, they would have won because you had somebody
who could communicate in a Mandani like person. Of course
he can't run because he's born in Uganda, but for president,
but that's what the Democrats need. And if they can
do that this time around and in twenty six, they'll
be better off. I got thirty seconds, Alex. Your final thoughts, my.
Speaker 8 (01:59:05):
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Speaker 7 (01:59:22):
Thank you, Alex. Thank you, my friend. A pleasure to
talk to you, and we'll look forward to having you
and again all the best. Keep warm in Maine the
winter time. Thanks Alex. We'll be right back, folks. It's
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Speaker 7 (02:06:58):
It is Albert three of the Jeff Panto Show, and
welcome to it, folks, and we get some breaking news
about the Jeff Santo Show. Well for those of you
who are listeners in California, not only in southern California,
but in northern California.
Speaker 17 (02:07:16):
We have a big.
Speaker 7 (02:07:19):
News information to tell you about tomorrow night. So at
seven o'clock Pacific time, that's ten o'clock Eastern. You can,
of course listen on the great website, the Jeffsantoshow dot com.
But if you are in California, whether you are along
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that not only in San Francisco. It is a blow torch.
Speaker 17 (02:08:08):
And a half.
Speaker 7 (02:08:09):
At one point it could reach northwestern part of Canada,
but I can tell you it goes east to Reno, Nevada,
south to Santa Barbara, covers Sacramento, San Jose, Silicon Valley,
et cetera, and again probably north of the Oregon border.
It's a great opportunity to talk to our friends at
(02:08:30):
KSFO and KBC. We thank Larry in the gang at
the network. And it's really an important time for people
to understand not only the importance of Prop fifty, but
the importance of issues that are facing America today. As
(02:08:50):
you have heard, I have spoken with Alex sites Wall,
the former MSNBC reporter who has gone to be a
caregiver and help his mom.
Speaker 17 (02:09:00):
You know, he is.
Speaker 7 (02:09:02):
Working at a small newspaper. You know, we're doing work here.
You know, we have to get back to our roots
here on AM radio, you know, all across this country,
and the opportunity to be on live in California is critical.
It's critical to get a different perspective in the great
(02:09:24):
state that what the fourth fifth largest economy in the
whole world. So we're excited about this and we'll be
having some big name guests. We're trying to get governors
and members of Congress and maybe a Senator or two
if we can. It's going to be a tight hour,
but we're trying also to be talking to political consulting
(02:09:46):
Gary South, who was the senior advisor to Gray Davis
back in the nineties, and early two thousands, amongst many others.
So stay tuned again tomorrow Night Live. You can give
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That is eight three three five four five five three
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Speaker 17 (02:10:10):
We hope to hear.
Speaker 7 (02:10:11):
From you and look forward to doing it. We're gonna
do it again the following Tuesday on the eleventh. Again
we thank Larry and the team at Cumulus and we.
Speaker 17 (02:10:21):
Look forward to a long relationship with them.
Speaker 7 (02:10:24):
All Right, with that, let's go to the great Washington,
d C. Where somebody is there fighting for us every
day who knows about California because he grew up in LA.
He is, of course a happy man today with the
Dodgers winning the World Series. He is Harrow Myerson, and
(02:10:45):
he joins us via video. Look at that smile. Oh yeah,
And Mookie Betts eat your heart out. And of course
Harrow Myerson joins us via video from Washington, d C,
the headquarters of the American Prospect. Mister Myerson, Well, congratulations
number one, and it's going to be great to be
(02:11:05):
on some big sticks in your former home state.
Speaker 43 (02:11:10):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, in describing the World Series,
I told people I was genetically predisposed to the Dodgers,
and I was politically predisposed to the Blue Jays after all.
Speaker 22 (02:11:22):
The crap that Anada.
Speaker 43 (02:11:26):
But you know, my genes overrode my political sense was
I was rooting for the Dodgers. I actually am old
enough and enough of an LA person to have seen
one of the victories that Sandy Kofax pitched in the.
Speaker 22 (02:11:43):
Nineteen sixty five World Series.
Speaker 43 (02:11:46):
And I would also say that the seventh game of
this World Series, that was played on Saturday night, you know,
was the only competition for most exciting baseball game where
I didn't ever rooting interest was the sixth game of
the nineteen seventy five series.
Speaker 17 (02:12:05):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:12:06):
I mean, as you, yes, one will always be number
one in my heart.
Speaker 43 (02:12:09):
But the Cincinnati Big Red machine against the Red Sox,
and the Red Sox won. And I think the twelfth
inning that run game with Carlton Fisks, that's right home run.
And you saw similar gestures this Saturday night from Will Smith.
(02:12:30):
It wasn't sure his home run which gave the Dodgers
finally the lead. Nothing's going to make it so, but
those I think remained, from my viewpoint, the two most
exciting games that baseball has seen.
Speaker 8 (02:12:45):
No.
Speaker 7 (02:12:46):
I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't disagree. It was on
your edge of everything. I mean, to have a shortstop
who hit what twoh one this year or those to
go and Rojas to be able to do that in
the ninth of the game in which the last two outs, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 17 (02:13:09):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (02:13:09):
And then they Dave Roberts, you know, a good friend
of ours, Uh, Jerry Austin and I were talking the
other night about the fact that you had a situation
where Dave Roberts, who you know, always got criticized, you know,
for just being the tool of the GM and so forth.
And that's to me much malarkey, because they, you know,
the folks that at the Freedman's of the world and
(02:13:31):
so forth analytic uh uh no, nerds. You know, it
was actually a gut feeling that if you put paj
in the center fielder he could make a catch, and
did he make a catch?
Speaker 43 (02:13:44):
You know again, and letting Rojas go up to h
to play. I should add that one often overlooked advantage
that Dave Roberts brings to his job is. He was
born at a US military base in Okinawa. His father
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was in I think a marine but and his mother
was a Japanese native of Okinawa. And he can speak
a kind of basic Japanese, which, given you know, the
presence of Shohei Otani and the reliever Roku Sasaki and
(02:14:25):
the now incredible Yoshinobi Yamamoto, is a real asset. So
in case there was there, surely was a time when
most Americans thought among the job qualifications for a big
league baseball manager, speaking Japanese was not one of them.
(02:14:46):
I think Dave Roberts has demonstrated that.
Speaker 22 (02:14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 43 (02:14:49):
Well, and you know, sometimes the best players on the
planet come from Japan, and it's a good it's it
definitely helps to be able to speak with them.
Speaker 17 (02:14:58):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:14:59):
And you know, look, they've been able to corner the
market on on fantastic you know Japanese players, Jakamoto of course, Uh,
Sho tiny and uh you know many others, and and
you know, look, uh, you know they spend the money.
You know, I think it's ridiculous how much money they're
(02:15:20):
being paid. But that's that's another that's another thing for
another day.
Speaker 43 (02:15:24):
So we're talking about billionaires. I should point out that
the owner of the Dodgers, Mark Walter, who comes from
Google im Partners, they bought the Lakers about four days ago,
so he have money to burn.
Speaker 17 (02:15:38):
Yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:15:42):
Magic Johnson is one happy guy because he's working for
both teams.
Speaker 17 (02:15:46):
But anyways, he's.
Speaker 7 (02:15:48):
Not doing too badly himself with his movie theaters and
all that stuff.
Speaker 17 (02:15:51):
So we go from celebrating in l A.
Speaker 7 (02:15:55):
I guess they had a little bit of a parade
today at Dodger Stadium and and well, yeah, nothing is
small in l A.
Speaker 17 (02:16:02):
Right.
Speaker 7 (02:16:03):
But the thing is is that you could be having,
at least from the Democratic perspective, a big celebration come
tomorrow night. You know, it should be relatively early from
what we see with Prop fifty. And I want to
I want to get into you know, the again. We
were talking with Alex sites wallflm me of MSNBC now
(02:16:27):
up in Maine at the Mid Coast Villager there and
around Camden, Maine, and you know, was talking about Planter
and in the in the state there. Uh, and we've
been you know, we've been talking. We started today our
first day in New York, New Jersey on AM fifteen
hundred w g h T. And you know what is
(02:16:50):
old is new again? You know AM radio, newspapers. You
know the feel of a newspaper. It's something that you
and I grew up with holding the Yeah, yes, exactly.
Well I think it's starting out. You know, it's probably
you know, it's got a long way to go before
you you can get back to all the news that's
fit to print.
Speaker 12 (02:17:08):
Right.
Speaker 7 (02:17:09):
But the interesting part in this, I don't know if
you can see it, but it's Seinfeld and all in
the family. You know best network TVs. You know, one
from the seventies, one from the nineties, not twenty first century.
So here you goo what as old is new again?
That gives us hope, as you know, as understanding of
(02:17:29):
the history of our nation and our culture. But anyways,
I think getting back to what is happening in California
is again a big issue.
Speaker 17 (02:17:40):
For the rest of the country. Your thoughts on Prop fifty.
Speaker 43 (02:17:42):
Well, it is because really we don't have an effective,
really effective way to stop the trump pisation of civilization
as we know it until the Democrats can at least
get one House of Congress, that is, you know, the
(02:18:03):
one real break that can be exercised against Trump, and
so control of the House, which Trump is trying to
maintain through redistricting, initially in Texas and now and more
and more Republican states is a crucial issue. And the
(02:18:25):
campaign that Gavin Newsom has waged on behalf of Prop
fifty in California, which would be California's redistricting, is an
answer to the one in Texas, five seats for five seats.
He succeeded in making people understand that that you need
(02:18:47):
the Democrats need a level playing field to retake the House,
and this levels you know, at least what Texas has done,
and you know, see what other what a the states
can do. Here where I am in d C. Just
across the Potomac, Democrats in Virginia are now embarking on
(02:19:08):
this project. They have to They have their statewide election
in Virginia tomorrow and they have to maintain control, which
they currently have of both houses of the legislature and
when the governor's office, which they're you know pretty sure
they're going to do. The Democratic nominee for governor, Abigail Spanberger,
(02:19:29):
has been leading in all the polls there, but in
the low double digits, and she's she's certainly going to
win tomorrow. And so you know, what Gavin Newsom started
on the Democratic side of the ledger has now become
something that expands to other states too, which it has
to to counter the Republican redistricting that now goes beyond
(02:19:53):
Texas and includes North Carolina in Ohio, and we'll see
what else. And Missouri, I should add.
Speaker 7 (02:20:00):
Right, no, no, And I think it's opening the doors.
I heard it the other day in Maryland that they
may be thinking of something. And of course Governor Moore is,
you know, considered a national figure, maybe a v VP figure.
Speaker 17 (02:20:16):
So to me, it's it's all there.
Speaker 7 (02:20:19):
And I gotta give, you know, again, tremendous credit to
Gavin Newsom, who, as you know, I was a fan
of him getting in in twenty twenty four before everything,
you know, sort of went off the rails, you know,
literally and figuratively seemingly. And I think, you know, he's
well positioned, although not a lock, and I haven't endorsed
(02:20:41):
him yet, but maybe soon, you know, for twenty twenty eight,
we get a long way to go. Of course, anything
had happened three six months. I want to get to
your thoughts on mom, Donnie. You know a lot of arrows,
but the guy, it keeps on going. I mean this
whole latest video of him on the bus you know
(02:21:01):
that goes two miles an hour, and he's talking to
the woman who's like, you know, this urine smelling here,
I'm sick and tired of being here.
Speaker 17 (02:21:09):
You know, can you do anything?
Speaker 7 (02:21:11):
You know, candidate a mayor to be and you know,
and he's talking to her as if like he was
going the same way she was and getting off at
the stop after her or before. And I love it,
and I think that that is politics one oh one.
And if you can do that, you know, the Democrats
should take a lesson from that. I know Andrew Cuomo
(02:21:33):
always trying to copy it and put Ai involved and
it's just a mess. But you know, he's authentic. It's
a real thing talking about well he.
Speaker 43 (02:21:42):
Is, and that's that's essential to his appeal. I mean, honestly,
the kind of politics that Mandami has, at least as
regards the issues he's run on economics, affordability, rent of housing,
cost of food, cost of childcare, and so on. Those
(02:22:06):
are issues that are cross cutting. But he certainly presents
it better than other Democrats who you know, share his positions.
I mean, the fact is, look, most big cities, given
the political composition of big cities, most big cities are
going to have mayors that, though they're not necessarily members
(02:22:31):
of the Democratic Socialists of America, are certainly social Democrats themselves.
That describes Karen Bass and Los Angeles. It describes Brandon
Johnson in Chicago. The difference isn't that he's a member
of DSA.
Speaker 22 (02:22:44):
And they're not.
Speaker 43 (02:22:45):
The difference is he's simply a much better poll than
they are. That's not an ideological difference so much as
it is a character logical difference.
Speaker 22 (02:22:56):
But he was born you know.
Speaker 43 (02:22:57):
Look, I mean, every now and then, as in as
in certain sports, you encounter a.
Speaker 22 (02:23:02):
Natural, and he is that he is unnatural.
Speaker 43 (02:23:07):
You also have to be very well schooled because he's
got to address lots of things that you have to
be schooled about. But if I can raise one question
that's driving me quite crazy about the right wing commentary
about this race, there's all his focus on will he
drives some millionaires out of New York? Well, I want
(02:23:30):
to look two things. I want to look at two things. First,
of all millionaires. What he has proposed to fund affordable
childcare is hiking the tax on individual income over one
million dollars by two percent. So specifically, if you were
to make as an individual one million, one hundred thousand
(02:23:52):
dollars in taxes, it would raise only the tax on
that last one hundred thousand dollars from eleven percent to
thirteen percent. Somehow, I do not think that is the
kind of issue that drives millionaires out of New York. However,
(02:24:13):
I do think that the unaffordability of housing and the
unaffordability of childcare drives thousands of families out of New
York because they can't afford to live in New York.
Somehow that the fact that, you know, the two percent
(02:24:34):
hike on millionaires is viewed as a threat to the
city's viability, but the flight of parents with children who
can't afford adequate housing, who can afford childcare to cheaper
areas is not regarded as a threat to the city.
Speaker 22 (02:24:56):
You know, give me a break. That just that that
that's no, it's it's a.
Speaker 7 (02:25:01):
Complete bogus bs. We're talking with Harold Myerson here on
the Jeff Santo Show. Editor at large American prospect. We'll
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I just tell you, I look at you know, all
the excuses about this. The fact is when I live
(02:25:42):
there prior to nine to eleven and after nine to
eleven in New York City, you know, you know, and
it was back then it was sixteen hundred for a
one bedroom probably now thirty six hundred or four thousand
for just that same place, and there was not anything
to rave about, believe me. The point of it, though,
is that you know, people live in New York because
(02:26:05):
you know, it's New York City. It's exciting, it's the
number one city in the country. They don't live there
for taxes. You know, if the millionaire is gonna where's
he gonna move Nebraska, Where's she gonna move Idaho? I
mean come on now, really, I mean, it's all a
bunch of bs. And this is done all by you know,
right wing thing tanks that basically just want to you know,
(02:26:25):
make more money for their one percent donors who give
them money to keep the keep the lights on.
Speaker 17 (02:26:30):
It's all but this is what we got to deal with.
Speaker 7 (02:26:33):
And of course, when you have very few outlets like
like this and again today's our first day on w
g HT in New York, New Jersey, you know, but
there are very few outlets to carry shows like mine
that obviously you know, have great journalists on like yourself.
Speaker 17 (02:26:51):
And that's that's what you have to face.
Speaker 7 (02:26:53):
So you have to do what everything and if you
have to get on the bus with mom Donnie and
you know, talk to people that way, you got to
do it.
Speaker 22 (02:27:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 43 (02:27:01):
Well, like I said, I mean, the guy is is
really just an incredibly adept politician, uh and he and
he understands how to tell a story, He understands how
to take all this stuff from the realm of theory
and bring it down to people's everyday experiences and which
(02:27:21):
includes riding buses that take forever and uh, you know
Greek of urine.
Speaker 22 (02:27:26):
So uh he he gets it.
Speaker 43 (02:27:29):
Uh in a way in which uh, you know, uh,
and Andrew Cuomo can't ever aspire even to to do.
It's not it's not his it's not Cuomo's life. That
that that's not you know, that's not the kind of
you know, he hasn't been elected to the earlier in
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his life because he had a certain common touch.
Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
Uh and.
Speaker 22 (02:27:57):
Uh and that's clear, that's clear.
Speaker 7 (02:27:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know, this is the Democratic icon,
Mario Cuomo. Why I was hoping it would run in
nineteen ninety two and he was under on the runway.
Speaker 17 (02:28:07):
I was Walling Hampshire.
Speaker 7 (02:28:08):
You know, the whole thing, right, This guy is about
as far away from his father, you know, I mean,
and he had the audacity to say, well, the Democratic
Party where my grandfather or my father you know, was
an icon.
Speaker 17 (02:28:21):
You know, I'm going to turn my back on them.
And it was independent.
Speaker 7 (02:28:24):
So I'm like, what the heck would any Democrat self,
you know, worth Democrat go for the Independent when you
have a spectacular candidate Mandani and the fact that Schumer
hasn't done anything yet shows how how to touch it.
Speaker 17 (02:28:37):
He is as well. I just got about him in
his years good.
Speaker 43 (02:28:41):
A lot of that concerns who their donors are, and
that that you know, oh yeah, that makes a huge difference.
I mean, Mandami has raised the money he's raised through
online contributions in small amounts. AOC has done that so
successfully that she's raises more money than anyone in Congress.
Republican Speaker Mike Johnson runs a distant second to AOC.
(02:29:06):
But when you get to the level of Cuomo, and
and you know the Democrats on the outskirts of New
York who have not endorsed Mandamie and have endorsed Cuomo,
like Tom Swazi and Long Island and Josh Gottheimer in
northern New Jersey, their their funding base is entirely Wall
(02:29:26):
Street types. It's big corporations, you know. I mean, so
they are answerable to a very different set of donors
than you know, the successful left wing candidates like Bernie.
Speaker 17 (02:29:42):
AOC agree, Harold, I got to run, my friend, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (02:29:46):
Always great to have Harold Myerson with a smile on
his face like Mandanni like the Dodgers winning Thanks Man.
Speaker 17 (02:29:53):
We will talk next week. All the best great talk
to you, then, Jeff talk to you. Then we'll right back.
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Speaker 7 (02:33:40):
From the South coast here in the Commonwealth the Massachusetts,
just outside the great city of Boston. So we go
well three thousand miles away to our good friend in
the city of Angels as we just talked to Harold
Myerson one time Dodger fan. We talked to a team
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that where's red? The guy that is actually on the
phone as a fan of the team that wears red,
although sometimes the powder Blues were a great uniform too.
About the Saint Louis Cardinals, I'm talking about, of course,
our good friend Alan Minsky, executive director of Progressive Democrats
of America, who I know was watching like a lot
of US Game seven of the World Series. In my opinion,
(02:34:25):
still it's number two to the Red Sox and Reds
of seventy five.
Speaker 17 (02:34:31):
But you know, I have a predice. Carl Frisk is
behind me here.
Speaker 7 (02:34:36):
I got a bubblehead of actually Fisk, and I think
the hand is broken. I'll try to get it a
little bit later to the proof. But I guess you
were up. Well it was early in California, you know,
but past midnight here in the East Coast. Well, back
to back, first time since the Yankees in the nineties,
(02:34:57):
which I guess is a good thing at the very least,
the Yankees don't take this all by themselves, so that's
a good thing.
Speaker 17 (02:35:03):
From this Red Sox fan, Yeah, I presume you're.
Speaker 7 (02:35:06):
Enjoying the people in LA celebrating baseball, which is a
good thing since we're both big fans.
Speaker 26 (02:35:14):
Well, you know, it's hard being out here to not
get caught up in the narrative the team. You know,
people might be aware that this is not an NFL town.
This is a Major League Baseball town, and a LA
Lakers town, and even USC football, which used to be huge,
of course, is nowhere nearest because it was say twenty
years ago, right, and I would say more than anything else,
it's a Dodgers town. And you know, one of the
peculiarities of Major League Baseball, as you fit it into
(02:35:37):
the landscape of American sports, is the way in which
outside of the major metropolitanians in particular you know Boston,
but in particular New York, Chicago and LA, these are
really baseball towns. You know, the fact that it's daily drama.
You know in New York on the tabloids. You know
the way the Cubs just are followed religiously, and the
(02:35:59):
White Sox when you're out of and in LA, it's
very much like that with the Dodgers, and the association
of the of the metropolinaria with this team, particularly this team,
is a reflection of the diversity of Los Angeles and
therefore as a signifier, I'm glad of opposition, right great,
because well, you know, I.
Speaker 7 (02:36:16):
Mean he didn't want either to win because the Canadians
were given him a middle finger, which I really wanted
to see Toronto win for that reason.
Speaker 17 (02:36:23):
Loan number two. Of course, the Dodgers have you know,
a slew.
Speaker 7 (02:36:27):
Of of minorities, whether you were talking about Asian and
Otani and Yamamoto, an amazing UH series, and of course
African Americans like Mookie Betts. You know, a slew of
of Dominican players, Hernandez uh and Kiki who, Hernandez who,
Puerto Rican back run of course close with Alex Korra,
(02:36:49):
you know, actually spoke got about the whole thing when
Trump had the Ice officials wanted to go into Dodgers.
Speaker 17 (02:36:54):
Statement, they wouldn't let them all.
Speaker 7 (02:36:56):
That and and of course Trump Trump didn't want to
root for either one of them. You don't any part
of them. You want Toronto and all of Canada.
Speaker 26 (02:37:03):
You know, you know outside if you watch you had
to watch the you had to watch the pregame show
when they were playing in Canada, because about five minutes
before the regular broadcast began, they would show the canadi
the singing the Canadian national anthem, and there was no
doubt what was going on with fifty people fully voice yeah,
you know, basically given a middle finger or whatever they
(02:37:26):
do in Canada most articularly way possible to the people
south of Lake Ontario and trump because it was it's spectacular.
But hey man, you know, just to clarify, you know,
I'm a Cardinal fan, and uh you know, so I
route quite strongly against the Red Sox and the Dodgers
these days in terms of compiling World Series titles were
still number two with eleven. Only teams been double digits
(02:37:47):
others than the Yankees, and now the Dodgers in the
Red Sox have nine, and so they won a lot
of World series. Now in the twenty first century in
concerts of the Cardinals, the Cardinals did pick up two.
But right now, of course, it seems like the Dodgers
are boys to keep collecting titles and the rest many
of these days, and the Cardinals m and you know
(02:38:07):
there even was this a poetic justice to having shirts
will be the starting pitcher for Torontic because of people
don't know he's a Saint Louis, and so I found
myself really pulling for them. But you know, I got
affection for some of the doctor plays, and it was
great to see my neighborhood this happy. It was astonishing
to see the response.
Speaker 17 (02:38:23):
It's a great thing.
Speaker 26 (02:38:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:38:25):
Well, as I said to our audience earlier, we're very
excited Alan uh to be on tomorrow night throughout the
entire state of California on both KBC and KSFO together
at seven o'clock live. We're going to try to see
if we can sneak in there. If you're available, I
think it's really important for the nation to understand, you know,
(02:38:49):
what Gavin and Newsom and Democrats are at large are
doing to help the rest of the party, because when
you think about what Trump is doing, uh, and you know,
if you saw him on sixty minutes last night, I
had a hard time just keeping the channel on.
Speaker 17 (02:39:06):
These are such you know, lies and more bs.
Speaker 7 (02:39:10):
But the the point is is that I think, you know,
how California has communicated this message, how Newsome has to
me is incredibly important. And when you're what you're seeing,
you know, and the pushback against Mom Doney. We're just
talking to Harrol Myerson about this. I mean, when's the
last time you've seen a candidate for any position, mayor
(02:39:33):
city council, you know, governor, congressman, senator go on a
bus talk to somebody as if they were going on
on the same bus ride as the passenger he was interviewing.
To me, that's real and that communication skills. If we
(02:39:56):
had that in twenty four we wouldn't have Trump right now.
And I and I tell you, I think that to
me is the biggest, biggest piece of it. But what
Mandami is is going to be the story here going forward.
And we're very excited because today is our first day
in New York, New Jersey and wght AM fifteen hundred,
and it is so great to be in both New
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York and California to be able to understand that, you know,
maybe three thousand miles apart, but they're similar in viewpoints,
similar in ideas, and you know, along with our friends
at WCAP and Old Boston, you know, there are a
lot of people who can communicate a message, whether it's
in Mamdani's way of communicating or Gavin Newsom to the
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rest of the country. And you know, you don't have
to be you know, from West Virginia or from you know,
Minnesota or Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania to be if
you're a good communicator and you can understand, you know,
talking to a passenger on a bus that's probably going
a mile an hour, two miles an hour and it
probably smells.
Speaker 17 (02:41:02):
A urine, you can do that too.
Speaker 7 (02:41:04):
And I just think that that you know, this idea
that you've got to get a Midwestern governor and you
got to do this way, and it's got to be
a white guy with a flannel shirt and a baseball cap.
You know, it's not really dealing with current scenarios. You
can wear a baseball cap as I'm doing now. But
you know, I'm also good at work code on so whatever,
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I got my own fashion statements.
Speaker 17 (02:41:28):
Your thoughts about this.
Speaker 26 (02:41:30):
Well, you know there's a lot there. And I think
I think with Mam Donnister. In New York City politics
are distinctive. But when someone comes forward like Mandami and
he makes clear to anybody who pays attention at all
or just becomes aware of the phenomenon that he is
speaking to pocketbook issues and he is speaking so directly
and so sincerely. I'm so speaking as a real person
(02:41:53):
as you're you know, citing the instance.
Speaker 35 (02:41:54):
On the box.
Speaker 26 (02:41:55):
That's that's Mam Donnie all day long. You know, Yes,
And you know, obviously when he becomes mayor, he's gonna
have responsibilities and won't be on the campaign trail, but
I think he'll have I see him having that common touch.
I don't see him losing that anytime soon.
Speaker 14 (02:42:11):
And you know, that speaks to people everywhere, and I
think he is, you know, since Bernie. Obviously, there's been
some great progressive politicians, young progressive politicians soup become prominent,
but none of them better than him at really really
bringing everything back to the way that people live.
Speaker 26 (02:42:30):
And then he's able to seamlessly connect to other issues
around the attacks on democracy, obviously, foreign policy issues, they
sort of he's able to intertwine them that bring the
discussion back to affordability. In other words, democracy. We can
have democracy because the people want to live affordable lives.
They're attacking democracy because they don't want in their greed,
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they don't want to have, you know, to have a
balanced economy where all of us can live comfortably. And
what is the rich to say, in the richest country
in the world. And I think that resonates everywhere because
I think people, of course are very appalled at the
attacks on our constitutional republic from the Trump administration. But
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I think there who also are starting to clue and
they're really starting to catch on to the fact that
this guy doesn't care at all about our welfare, our
personal welfare, our economic welfare. There's been something of a ruse,
but it's going to take Democrats who can seamlessly in
a real voice. You know, they don't shy away from
the other issues. He's great at not turning off the
questions that he's asked, but bringing it back back to
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the way people really live, and people are really struggling
to get by.
Speaker 17 (02:43:39):
Into society, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:43:42):
I mean, I use the Duncan donuts, you know, I
have it here as the prop But I've asked all
the candidates that we've had on. The most latest is
Jonathan Jackson, Jesse Jackson's son and Illinois congressman from Chicago.
You know, it went from seven dollars on September fifteenth
(02:44:02):
to fourteen ninety nine a week later and still has
not changed. This is Trump tariff. The Democrats should be
banging this over the head. Not literally, of course, it's
not going to hurt anybody anyways. It's a pound of coffee.
But the point is is that this is something that
you know, Democrats win on economic issues ninety nine percent
(02:44:22):
of the time. You stick to the economic issues and
everything else will follow. And again, when you're destroying democracy,
you know, the economy, you know, may seem like it's
it's not that important, but they all go hand in
hand because you know, you know it's you know, poor
people aren't going to get better off in dictatorship. I
can tell you that you know.
Speaker 17 (02:44:44):
It didn't work in the nineteen thirties. We all know
that history.
Speaker 7 (02:44:49):
Talk to me a little bit about how you see
the next few days.
Speaker 17 (02:44:54):
Alan.
Speaker 7 (02:44:55):
My view is that if Democrats come out of this
with victories, it's you know, it's close, but I think
Cheryl will win. In New Jersey where we're casting today too,
I think Spamberger wins close to ten points. I think
obviously the Prop fifty should be overwhelmingly favor on the
(02:45:17):
yes vote. I'm not sure about Pennsylvania the Supreme Court races.
They seem very close hasn't been that much attention. Of course,
I think a double digit win for Mandani. But well,
we're gonna we're gonna try to invite mister Martin or
some officials from the DNC. We have, you know, a
DNC member on every week with Mel Poindexter from Massachusetts,
(02:45:40):
and you know, he's understanding of how to communicate his
understanding of what needs to be done. But I think
that message has to be on economics and has to
be on saving the democracy. You put those two together,
you get a winning message for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 17 (02:45:54):
What say you?
Speaker 16 (02:45:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 26 (02:45:58):
I think I think a few things. The tomorrow one
is in California on your on your coverage, and I'm
not an expert on this. I would recommend trying to
find a guest. I think that opposition will pass, and
but my understanding is the Republicans will try to challenge
it in court. And so if you kind of a
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get ye, I don't know that's the thing that they're
They're they're just pulling together resources to challenge in that way.
Speaker 17 (02:46:29):
That's all it is.
Speaker 26 (02:46:31):
Oh, yes, well, they pull their money from that and
they apparently are investing in court challenges to try to
slow it up just so it gets close enough to
the primary date that they can have it happen now.
But I don't think it will work, but they'll they'll
try to do that, and anybody can speak to that
is important. I think also what's important from tomorrow too,
even though we're talking about you know, basically more or
(02:46:55):
less progressive states. You have obviously Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Then
we're talking about New New Jersey, California, and of course
Virginia has been something of a swing state. But are
are there is there any evidence of Republican uh, you know,
efforts to disrupt the vote, including possibly of course, the
presence of you know, armed federal officials in minority communities.
(02:47:20):
Is that going to be an evidence. Everybody's anticipating that
it will be of course by twenty six, seroined by
the general election in twenty.
Speaker 12 (02:47:27):
Six, but.
Speaker 26 (02:47:29):
It could possibly pop up tomorrow. I think I think,
you know, I think the New Jersey election is important.
I do think that one everybody in New Jersey should
get out and vote. Of course, don't don't trust that
that is a give gimme. But if that is also one,
then the question is, is you know how this is
framed what kind of message comes out of you know,
the Trump world, because it looks like this could be
(02:47:51):
a pretty good day for people who want to see
this as a you know, a slapped down for Trump.
But of course the Hill Hill in his inner circle
will blab about unfair elections and blue states and all
that kind of stuff. And that's for Mom Donnie. You know,
it's hugely historic. Of course, it's important to you know,
understand uh, maybe the difficulties that he'll face trying to
(02:48:12):
get his agenda through, especially up in all of them.
And also but again when you have Mom Donnie too,
it's those even further than that, which is the opportunity
to articulate a vision for in America which is more equitable,
more economically fair, where we have an expanding middle class,
not a contracting middle class, and the middle class that's
empowered both politically and and very important politically there to
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be able to consolidate the status that our politics, like
the Great Year after World War two, are about the
interests of the average working household, and I think Mom
Donnie's campaign has been all about that. And again to
be able to show a successful way that you know,
this isn't coming out of the you know, the nineteen
twenties crisis of the Great Depression and what Roosevelt build up.
(02:48:56):
Then we're coming out of four decades of media liberalism.
How the kind of policies which you know, basically the
state saying that private market does not adequately respond to
these issues. We need to have politics and government, you know,
constrain the market so that we can have an expanding
and prosperous middle class for the best society we can
(02:49:17):
have here. And you know, what is that vision? How
well is that being put forward? And I think I
think how much is it catching people's ears? And it's
totality because I think Mom Donnie is a fantastic you know,
a person to articulate that message, not just for the
people in New York City, but in joining with Bernie
and progressives around the country, organizations like PDA to get
(02:49:38):
that and shows like the Jeff Scanto Show to get
it out to the people that these are these are
great politics.
Speaker 17 (02:49:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:49:45):
No, indeed, Look, I think you know, if they do
the Republicans try this court challenge and so forth, I
think in the California courts anyways, and maybe they'll go elsewhere.
But I think it's going to be laughable because you know,
if I'm not mistaken, the Republicans put a lot of
(02:50:06):
money into Prop.
Speaker 17 (02:50:08):
Eighty seven racist situation.
Speaker 7 (02:50:11):
Back in the nineties under Pete Wilson. Nobody called that unconstitutional.
You know, you can go and go back to Prop. Thirteen.
I mean, California is you know, king of of prop
uh position propositions, and so to me, you know, to
do what they're trying to do is you know, it's
a needle in a haystack scenario.
Speaker 17 (02:50:31):
So I don't see it. I mean, I don't care.
Speaker 7 (02:50:33):
I mean, I know when you're going to have a
Supreme Court that could just you know, basically rubber stamp
the president if it goes that far, you know, that
would obviously be concerning. But I just I just don't
see it. But it's great to know, and thank you
for pointing that out. I want to get into something
that I think is it is important in terms of
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how Democrats, you know, position them else against the one percent.
This is obviously something that is again on the Mam
Donnie campaign, you know, with the taxes.
Speaker 17 (02:51:07):
I think this is an issue that is again win win.
I mean, who do you know that loves billionaires?
Speaker 7 (02:51:14):
You know, whether it's Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or
any of these folks. You know, I mean, there isn't it.
So why why hold back? I understand because a lot
of the members of Congress and so forth get a
lot of money from these guys.
Speaker 17 (02:51:31):
But to me, this is fertile territory. And what Mam
Donnie is doing.
Speaker 7 (02:51:38):
And again, because he's a great communicator, he can he
can manage this. But I really feel that this is
an issue, you know, because to put good government in place,
you have to have people pay for it. And you
don't want people making forty thousand dollars a year having
their taxes increased. You want people who are making four
(02:51:58):
hundred million dollars a year.
Speaker 17 (02:52:00):
Year. That's what you're going to do.
Speaker 7 (02:52:01):
And I think this is a win win, And I
know that some Democrats are afraid of that idea, but
you know, I think you'll see tomorrow night in New
York City that that whole message will resonate with people
in the other forty nine states and all the other
big cities.
Speaker 17 (02:52:20):
Your quick thoughts on that, yeah, And.
Speaker 26 (02:52:22):
Look, and also I think I think you know, look,
it's not the main point. The main point is organizing
the base, organizing the people. But you know, look what
mom Donnie is asking. I think to fund childcare the
two things he needs the funding for, of course, at
the buses and the childcare, and of his four main issues,
because I think, of course, the people who don't really
(02:52:44):
cost anything, they're just a matter of implementation and other
than these high profile campaign proposals. And for the childcare
thing is a two percent tax on income above a million,
so nobody else gets impacted by it. Well, you know,
New York City is unique and that there are a
lot of people and enough people that make above a
million dollars and some make a heck of a lot
(02:53:05):
more in annual income in New York City. And one
of the things is, you know, people say, well, okay,
you got to be careful. Though all the rich people
will leave. They've threatened that a lot with Wall Street
over the years. I don't think anybody's leaving New York City.
And I think one of the things we have to
make clear.
Speaker 17 (02:53:22):
May get me a break.
Speaker 26 (02:53:24):
Yeah, but an affordable New York City for the balance
of the population compared to what it.
Speaker 22 (02:53:28):
Is now isn't even better.
Speaker 26 (02:53:29):
New York City will be more attractive for anyone, and
of course always more attractive for the wealthy. So we
do have to make some communication out to that group.
But of course it's laughable that that would be something
they would see here because these are people who have
made that.
Speaker 17 (02:53:44):
They are in New York City.
Speaker 26 (02:53:47):
I mean, the working class of New York City is
doing more than whatever that is, you know, two percent,
one percent or a half a percent of the income
they're made is being clearly driven by the fact that
the people who hold up New York cities in structure,
and you think those people would understand that they should
pay back, and of course they should, and even more
than that. Of course, I'm for a much higher taxation
rate above, but you know, I would rather see that
(02:54:08):
go both the you know, state, the local state and
federal for people making over a million dollars income annually.
But you know, it's just progressive taxation doesn't affect any
of the money under a million dollars. And yet Hokal
has apparently got his cold feet on that, so you know,
we have to be ready prepared to make that case.
But yeah, no, I mean I think I think I
(02:54:29):
think we're at a moment right now where these kind
of proposals are gonna get a lot more attention, or
they would, except for armania is being evstrated, for media
is being handed over to the right wing.
Speaker 8 (02:54:40):
We gotta we got to.
Speaker 26 (02:54:41):
Lift up shows like here's Jeff everywhere. If anybody's out
there listening and you hear about Jef's expansion into these
new states, and maybe you're not in one of the
states Jeff's expanding to, you know, you got to call
up whoever you can, you know, people who know the
media landscape in your metro area, and get this show
on the areas because right now there's a consolidation of
right wing media that is frightening. You know, I watched
(02:55:03):
a lot of commentary on the baseball games after the
World Series games these past few days, and these horrifying
TikTok ads keep come popping up, and it's exactly because
the TikTok uh is now going to be an asset
for the right wing and and you know the guys
going to be operating that.
Speaker 17 (02:55:21):
Yeah, yeah, I fear the same thing.
Speaker 7 (02:55:23):
I agree, And uh, you know, massive media, whether it's
Facebook or others. You know, owned by owned by the
right wing. You know, we've seen what happened with Jimmy Fallon.
You see last night Trump goes on Norah O'Donnell and
you know, talking about who's better looking, as if that,
you know, is a question she's going to ask, you know,
(02:55:45):
Mondani or himself. You know, I mean, it's just it's
just ridiculous. And and of course you know Paramount, you know,
Bendon needs the Trump administration.
Speaker 17 (02:55:54):
You know, you can go on.
Speaker 7 (02:55:55):
And on and on, and it's it's it's sad, but
this is what what were they? And again Democrats got
a rail because look they're the underdog party, you know,
I mean, have no fear of underdoggers. Here the nineteen
sixties cartoon, of course, you know that that was not
made for for the billionaire team.
Speaker 17 (02:56:12):
That's not you know, Republican light.
Speaker 7 (02:56:14):
So you know, be who you are, be bold, be progressive,
and you'll win, you know if you if you play
this uh you know, milk toe sort of Well, my
my my gentleman friend from from you know, Missouri. You know,
I agree with him, but you know, we have to
we have to take care of people who you know,
(02:56:35):
make under forty thousand a year. So I'll vote nay,
but I'll I'll talk with you after the after the
call Aqui and and we'll try to see if we can,
you know, make it work for both. I'm sick of
that enough, you know, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 17 (02:56:51):
BS. Well, you're right, You're really.
Speaker 26 (02:56:54):
Right to bring up the Democratic Party here. Look, one
of the things that's an asset for us right now
is is actually something that maybe over the long haul
hasn't been a real great thing for American politics and
rian people. But it is the fact that we operate
in a two party system, and in a two party system,
we now have the opportunity. And by the way, Zora
Mamdani is not shy about saying that he is a
(02:57:15):
Democrat and that what he is presenting represents something new
for the Democratic Party that it must embrace because it's
what the people want and because we have this two
party system. If the Democratic Party does again return to being,
you know, across the board we are advocate right and
an honest advocate for working people in the middle class,
(02:57:36):
then there are only two parties and that is a
message that will break through and then they'll be able
to control the messaging and it will be heard no
matter how much the right wing media and dominated much more,
including the digital major digital platforms than before. But I
also think in doing so, one of the things that
they can address when they regain political power and say
(02:57:56):
the democracy is again anti monopoly in terms of media
and digital platforms. So yeah, I mean, there's it's all
in there. But the Democratic Party, you know, at times
we always and I know everybody probably on this call
at one time or another, which we had multiple parties
like a parliamentary system. Well in this country we have
two parties right now, with the Republican Party so far
(02:58:16):
gone so completely basically you know, against the constitutional Republic
and for the olive arts, fully right, with a with
a base that the primary operation of what the think
tanks do is to construct rationales, to delude the base
of the Republican Party to complete to continue supporting the
oligarchic agenda.
Speaker 17 (02:58:37):
That's how you can look.
Speaker 26 (02:58:38):
At their think tanks, and they put billions and billions
of dollars into.
Speaker 7 (02:58:41):
Those things, Heritage Foundation and on No, it's it's uh,
it's it has to be.
Speaker 17 (02:58:53):
We have to keep.
Speaker 7 (02:58:54):
Pushing, you know, and uh, people who are not bold
enough out of the way, because those who are bold
will be the winners. And that's what if you look back,
you know when you we fight against you know, milk toast,
you know you win Obama did against Hillary Clinton. Uh,
you know you you go back in time with Roosevelt
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against you know, the oligarchs back then. You know, on
and on. It's it's there. Alan, Thank you, my friend.
We'll be in touch over the next twenty four Appreciate you,
and again, become a member of PDA.
Speaker 17 (02:59:28):
It's a great organization. You know.
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Take those forums and you can be part of it
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Speaker 17 (02:59:35):
Uh, that's the best part of it. Pd America dot org.
Thanks Alang, appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (02:59:43):
I want to thank Kevin for producing this broadcast. And
uh Freddie and the great team again, folks, doublehead and
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My name is Jeff Santos. Right now it's my time
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We will talk New Jersey politics, is the big race
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A little bit of background in Massachusetts. Both deb and
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At four oh.
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Of course, that's home.
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Of Marvin Hagler and home of the fantastic Rocky Marciano.
Of course, it's sad. He was one of the best
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He is the.
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Former MSNBC reporter producer, but he is also right now
he is the deputy editor of the Mid Coast Villager
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speeches and races and saw them on his old neck
of the woods at MSNBC, and I said, well, we
got to get him on first day in New York,
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New Jersey.
Speaker 17 (09:40):
You got to get him on.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
So we did, and Alex will be joining us at
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talk with Harrol Myerson. Myerson, of course, is the fabulous
and editor at large of the American Prospect, great progressive magazine,
and then we'll wrap it up with Alan Minsky. Allan,
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We'll be doing just that coming up at the bottom
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Speaker 17 (10:26):
We also have.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
A text line to give out which will do momentarily
as well, courtesy of our good friend Sam Pulton at
WCAP in Lowell, Boston. And of course that gets into
the two New Hampshire cities of Nashua and Manchester. I
will tell you this, folks, and I think that it
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is very interesting to yesterday on sixty minutes. First of all,
you know, a lot of people will not be aware
of the fact that this is the first appearance he's
made as president in the second term non Fox interviews.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
And of course if you notice he talked about that
he's better looking than Mandani. Really, is that what we're
judging people on now? Is they got sunk that low? Well, anyways,
that's interesting. But the other part of it too that
I think is is relevant. And this to me is
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you know, he he talks about you know, nuclear tests
and things like that, like it's you know, no big deal.
It's like, you know, to do list Wednesday, four forty five.
You know, this is the lack of understanding in the
seriousness of the current incumbent and it's gonna it's gonna
hurt America. And hopefully the election today will be a
(11:57):
barometer for what happens in twenty twenty six and of
eventually in twenty twenty eight. He has said he's not
going to run in twenty twenty eight. Is illegal, you know,
against the constitution to do so, which was amended after FDR,
and that.
Speaker 17 (12:10):
Needs to be held.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
And we need to move to a democracy, not to
this semi fascist state that we're currently in.
Speaker 17 (12:18):
So we have a lot, you know, we're gonna do.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
We're gonna play a little bit of music in the
second hour or a little bit later this hour of
our good friends at Saints in the City they were
on last Friday, of course, and we'll play some boring
to run a little bit later in the broadcast.
Speaker 17 (12:37):
Kind of a New Jersey feel an appeal.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
You know, I'm all things, Bruce, all things, you know,
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Speaker 17 (12:45):
Too, of course. All right, I got I got a couple.
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Of things that I want to talk about here and again.
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Can put that up on the upper left third, that
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Again.
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Nine seven eight four five four forty nine eighty. That
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want to talk a little bit about all these elections
and what they mean for of course our friends in
New Jersey and New York. We hope to talk to
Mandani over the next I don't know week or two.
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Our good friend Herb Boyd is working on that for
as he spoke with Mamdanni for the Amsterdam News and
was there with a number of other African American journalists
and my name came up thanks to Herb. So we
hope that can can happen. And we hope that he
is the mayor elect at the time that we speak
to him, so that is something to look forward to.
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He is a dynamic speaker. He is in my opinion,
the most electric candidate that we have had, you know,
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Speaker 17 (15:00):
All right, So.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
The elections to me are this, If Mondannie doesn't win
by double.
Speaker 17 (15:06):
Digits, I would be surprised.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
Although you never know, you know what happened to Bernie
Sanders in twenty sixteen in New York, and you know
close closed in certain places and you know, a lot
of Tammany Hall remnants still left in New York City politics.
Speaker 17 (15:20):
But I think it will be ten points.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
It's a large turnout of young voters from Mom Donni,
and I think that will will be the difference between
a close race and a major win younger people of
all different backgrounds, ethnicities, religions. It's it's the rainbow that
Jesse Jackson talked about, as I said thirty five years ago.
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So I look at this and I think there is
a great opportunity for a new wave of politics led
by Mam Donnie. I think that you're going to see
a close but four to five point win for Mikey
Cheryl in New Jersey. I think Spanberger will win probably
five to ten points in the great state of Virginia.
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And I think, of course, in California, I think it's
fifteen or more on a vote yes again. You know, then,
I know the Trumpie's are going to be sending out
monitors whatever that means, to look at these but you
know they're not going to find anything because California knows
about clean elections, that's.
Speaker 17 (16:32):
For sure, Thankfully.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Now the only one that is sort of suspenseful is
what's happening in Pennsylvania. I haven't seen the latest polls,
but I know they were close, so we'll make a
note tomorrow. Now, we'll have a special announcement tomorrow afternoon
about a double header show that we're going to be
doing in California in the evening. We'll make that official
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call tomorrow. Will also put it on our website as
well as soon as it is official again the Jeff
Santo Show dot com. I want to I want to
talk a little bit about what I think is happening
around the issue of the layoffs. Again, Democrats need to
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do a better job of communicating that message. Again, they
are at a disadvantage in Washington. First of all, they
don't have effective Senate leader in my opinion, and Shumer. Secondly,
they are of course without the majority. So the mainstream Washington,
DC based media will go always first to the majority
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leader slash speaker mis Case Johnson. They'll also go to
Thun who's the majority leader in the Senate, and then
they will go of course to Trump. And Trump will
hog up every minute possible talking about nothing except trying
to you know, intimidate and bully people. So that's what
they get so that the Democrats don't have a big,
big deal, which is one of the reasons why. And
(18:05):
we're going to hope to talk to DNC official Martin
coming up on Wednesday or Thursday, I hope, And one
of the things that they need to ask him is
that how much of your ability to communicate will come
outside of Washington, because this, to me is critical.
Speaker 17 (18:26):
You need to be able.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
You know, Bill Clinton was a master at this when
he was running for re election in ninety six. He
went around the country and what he did. Of course,
local news is much different than it is now, you know.
I mean, it wasn't the days of the seventies with
Anchorman will Farrell, but you could still do a lot
of local news. You still can, and I would think
that it's very important for the King Jeffries, for Ms
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Clark from mister Aguilia, who were supposed to have on
tomorrow at five thirty Eastern time, that's two thirty Pacific
number three in the leadership, all of them should be
in their home districts and in other local areas, similarly
with other leaders in the Senate. And that doesn't mean
that people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, you know Murphy,
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Senator Murphy from Connecticut. All of those folks, Sheldon white
House who have the ability to communicate and have issues
that they're talking about.
Speaker 17 (19:24):
White House is very big on the courts.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
You know, he understands the the outrageous situation with the
Supreme Court. And of course if you have those folks
talking on their issues, you know, it's not like they
got to, oh, let's see, how do I take this
and how do I spin it this way? And I
don't want to look too too out there, too progressive,
(19:47):
and you know, these these centrists gets very nervous about
you know, this seemingly is too progressive. So the the
thing that I believe, and I think Gavin Newsom is
the is the real genius at this is that he
can talk about and can communicate. It's like, don't mess
with me. He understands the quick SoundBite, but at the
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same time he'll talk about, you know, the major issues.
This is also what I think mom Donnie is going
to develop into. And he has all the skill set
in the world. Again, he can never run for president,
so I don't think he's going to be president, mom Donnie,
but he could be as very effective if he wants
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to run for Senate or governor. You know, the case
is Jennifer Granholm and Arnold Schwarzenegger both were well. In
case of Grandholm was both the governor and Schwarzenegger governor
of California, So you know, he could run for New
York governor. That could potentially work in his advantage as
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well going down the line. If he doesn't want to
be mayor for life, I think it would be good
to maybe get.
Speaker 17 (20:57):
To the state level too. So all of that is there.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I think the Democrats need to continue to build on
the momentum that they're getting again. At that rally in
Los Angeles was Vice President Harris, who looked like she's
running run again. Of course, Governor Newsom Jessica Crockett of
Texas was out there, as was klobd har the Center
(21:21):
from Minnesota. But Crockett is fascinating. I want to get
her on the show sometime in the next couple of weeks.
She's dynamic. Someday I think she'll be senator and who
knows from there what happens. She could also run for
governor too, but I think she's probably going to be
in Washington but that's the Those are the folks that
I would get out there, you know, if they were saying,
(21:44):
all right, Jeff, you know, here's a million dollar deal,
let's lets you advise the Democratic Party. I would I
would have people like Newsome, like Mom, Dannie, like Crockett
and others out there. But I don't anticipate any calls,
you know, maybe maybe a zoom.
Speaker 17 (22:03):
Call that he'll include me on. But that's about it.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
All right, I'm going to open up the phones eight
three three five four five five three three three. Kevin
will let him know who is on the line.
Speaker 17 (22:13):
Again.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
We'll be talking with Taylors Sterling on in a couple
of minutes as well, at the bottom of the hour.
The great program director of WGHT AM fifteen hundred is
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Minnesota talk to our good friend John in the Twin
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Cities of Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Get right ahead, sir, Yeah.
Speaker 18 (22:43):
I just wanted to say that, well, I'm really saddened
to see that, you know, people have been cut off
from their snap benefits and most of them, essentially are
women and children that are getting to be impacted by that.
And some states are going to make up for the
(23:07):
lack of Snap benefits, and others will just go along
with whatever Donald Trump illegally is doing because it is
illegal to cut off Snap benefits. It's an entitlement program.
It was created by Congress not to be used as
a political football, but to serve people in this country
(23:29):
the most mediast So it just goes to show you
what they're all about is causing pain and suffering to
as many people as they can possibly. You know, I
guess do that too. So the sadists, they're ugly people
and we need to as soon as we can get
(23:51):
rid of them. And then after we win, we also
have to remember what they did, so we need to
seek justice for those impacted.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Well, yeah, I mean there are people that are in
jail now that don't belong in jail. There are people
who have been taken off the streets and injured. All
those things have to be understood and being addressed, and
that is a critical, very critical situation. John, I want
to ask you a little bit about the mayor's race
going on in your city of Minneapolis. What is the
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latest poll wise there and that is happening tomorrow, is
that later in the month.
Speaker 18 (24:31):
No, that's happening tomorrow. And we have ranks of us voting.
There's three candidates that have joined and so that we
can still get rid of Jacob Spray by voting in
the order of first, second, and third choice. So that's
(24:54):
what I'm going to be doing tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
So that i could get rid of.
Speaker 18 (25:00):
Because essentially he created I think, a big problem in
this city where not much is being done, you know,
to the police department, which it needs to be reorganized.
It was too influenced by the police union. That essentially
(25:28):
created a situation where there could never be any reform
to it. So it's a highly corrupt system that needs
to go. And he didn't really do very much for it.
And in fact, he created a mayorship a mayoral position
that favors doesn't favor democracy, but favors a strong leader
(25:55):
in the mayor by changing you know, the are essentially
what is the city constitution. And he did that very
quickly because he was afraid that after George Floyd the
We're going to be significant changes to the.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
City that he didn't like.
Speaker 18 (26:19):
He favors big money, real estate, the police. He does
not favor ordinary people in the street. Yeah, he's a
Mandami of the Midwest. I don't think that's an exaggeration.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
And even if he doesn't make it, as you know,
as a.
Speaker 18 (26:43):
Mayor of this city, he'll be around for quite a
long time. He's a young person, so I'm looking forward
to his career here.
Speaker 17 (26:51):
He's been endor on Omar.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
I know that with Omar you have a significant leader,
Key Ellison, as well of course the Attorney General. So
there are great progressives there. Uh and and hopefully there
is uh, you know, some more energy and the new
Senate candidate I'm replacing Tina Smith.
Speaker 17 (27:11):
Correct.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Yeah, it's it's neck and neck.
Speaker 18 (27:13):
Actually that's what the polls say. So it's very close,
you know, but I think that pray Night edge him out.
But in in this system of rank choice voting, we
might find very surprising results following the strategy that I outlined,
which is what a lot of people are going to do.
Speaker 17 (27:36):
Well, it'll be fascinating. I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 7 (27:39):
John Forgive is an in depth report there in in
Minneapolis and the mayor's race will be looking at that
come Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, and you'll be our correspondent
for sure, come Wednesday morning and see what ends ups happening.
But we'll we'll talk to you before.
Speaker 18 (27:56):
I'm I'm a little prejudiced. Omar.
Speaker 17 (28:03):
Yeah, I think that I got the four conclusion. But
that's right.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Thank you, John, Appreciate you, my friend. We'll talk to
you later in the broadcast. Eight three three five four
five five three three three is the phone number to
join us again. Eight three three five four five five
three three three. You know, one of the things that
you know, John brought up about Mom Donnie and the
Midwestern perspective, a lot of people believe, well, you know,
(28:29):
it's great in New York City, but you know what
wait wait, wait till he starts. Uh, you know, getting
pushedback from you know, the New York business community and
so forth.
Speaker 17 (28:37):
Well you're going to have that everywhere. I mean, Wall
Street is powerful and all of us who we know
that real estate in New York City as well, you know,
for the rent.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
Is too damn. I thank you real estate community in
New York City. Uh, you've got to be a millionaire
billionaire to afford to live there. I know, and it
was ridiculous twenty years ago, and it's you know, fifteen
times worse than it is now. And that's only in
New York. It's in a lot of other places. So
the effective of what ability for him to communicate the
message of of freezing the rents. They've had, you know,
(29:10):
massive rent control in the past. It didn't cripple I
didn't cripple the City of New York by any stretch
of the imagination. So let the one percent pay their
fair share in taxes. That's what I say. All right,
we'll be right back. We're going to talk again with
the program director in our new home in New York,
New Jersey. AM fifteen hundred WGHT. It's the Jeff Santo Show,
(29:35):
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This is the Jeff Sadu Show.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Thirty three minutes past the hour, coming to you live
from the South coast here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
You know, as our good friend Bono of you two
would say interviewed him back in nineteen eighty seven. He
did a video on the Jimmy Fallon Show and he said,
it's good to be back. Well, it's good to be
(33:56):
back in New York, New Jersey, and it's good to
be on a fantastic radio station. AM fifteen hundred w
GHT is the call letters also ninety eight point three FM,
and with us from New Jersey is Taylor Sterling, program director.
Speaker 17 (34:14):
Taylor.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
It's so good to be on your station. Welcome to
the Jeff Santo Show.
Speaker 24 (34:21):
Titles are left out. You know women want their titles.
Well we got. I'm the co host. I'm the co
host of the number one dry Time morning show, and
I haven't brought us a ten m called the Tailored Word.
Speaker 17 (34:35):
The Tailored Word.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
You also are quite a model as well, according to
this photograph I have in front of me here, Well,
fantastic years ago. That's okay, still looking good in the neighborhood,
as they say. So you know, we're really happy about it.
Talk to us little bit about the history of the station.
You know, this is it's fascinating.
Speaker 24 (34:56):
Because it's a great Yeah, great history. Actually, if you're
into sports, you know who Kevin Burkhard is.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
Yeah, great Fox reporter, baseball and football analyst with the
great Tom Brady.
Speaker 24 (35:11):
Yeah, he's on with Tom Brady. Well, he started on WGHD.
Ghd's been Yeah, he started there and he's been he's
been doing football for quite a long time and he
actually a great guy, really good at what he does.
We've started a lot of people over there. The station
actually went on the air in nineteen sixty four, but
(35:33):
he actually added the FM about five years ago, so
they were always am They won of a lot of
awards for both sports and news. So it's been kind
of a talk radio and we moved it to talk
and music because Frank who owns it, is what we
call the goat of music. So we had only station,
by the way, in the US that has six thousand
(35:54):
Billboard charted songs from every decade in genre. So, well,
what do you call a real radio station.
Speaker 17 (36:00):
Well, you know, it's so good to have real radio.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
You know, I've been working in it since I was fifteen,
sixteen years old something like that, back in.
Speaker 17 (36:08):
All Over, mass Yeah, yeah, yeah, just ten years ago.
And one of the things that to.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
Me is is fascinating is that you can you can
learn so much about listening to somebody as opposed to
just viewing them. I mean, they're obviously you know, are
ways to look at people's facial reactions. And you know
the famous Kennedy Nixon debate where if you watched it
on TV, it's Kennedy on a landslide. If you'll actually
(36:36):
listened to it on radio, it was a lot closer
because you couldn't see the perspiration of the sweat from Nixon,
you know, going back to nineteen sixties before our time.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
Of course.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
And you know, one of the things that to me
is fascinating is that you know, you can have conversations
as you do in the morning with your great morning show,
and we try.
Speaker 17 (36:58):
To do here because it's long format.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
You you know, you're not have to deal with, you know,
a two minute break too, and you've got to be
back and you know there's six commercials lined up and
all those sort of things. Of course, there are you know,
a lot more commercials on radio than there have been
in the past, but television kind of breaks it up,
and I think that's really the value. And people in
the New York New Jersey metropolitan area are in the
(37:22):
car a lot, you know, they're on the turnpike, they're
on ninety five, and you know they want to be
able to hear, whether it's music or talk and get information,
and that's what you guys are providing.
Speaker 24 (37:34):
Yeah, we're all about that week. The morning show is
totally unscripted, so you never know what you're going to get,
and we have we interviewed somebody every day. It's all segmented,
but you know, we want to give everybody a chance
to listen. And the things that we the feedback we
get is we love your station because it is you
ask questions we want to ask. We don't do anything
(37:54):
script and I think when you do that, they pick
up on that because they are listening. It's sort of
like remember years ago when there was like a horror
movie and you never saw the monster till the end
of the movie and you were so great to death
and then you saw the mask and he's not so bad.
So it's.
Speaker 17 (38:12):
Yeah, he's not so bad. We can we can like him,
we can get him. Yeah, exactly, no.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
No, yeah, no, it is. It's a fantastic way because
you can you can learn so much. You can you
can understand when when somebody is uh, you know, paying
attention to you, uh, you know, if you're on a
phone call like we are, and you know we do
every day here on the Jeff Santo Show. And and
again we really thank you and the rest of your
(38:39):
team for making this happen. One of the areas that
I think is also fascinating about your music connection. And
you know, we we were just playing the other day,
you know, maybe the God and I think if he
ran for governor, he would win, you know, hands down,
that's Bruce Springsteen. And you know we're a cover band
saying in the city that we had on and we'll
(39:01):
be playing a little bit in the next couple of days.
Is you know, really the the entree into New Jersey.
But you know, do you play you know, a lot
of Bruce Springsteen because of that local connection. Is that
part of the playlist.
Speaker 24 (39:16):
Not really, but I will tell you this, Frank is
the It's the only station where some we had an
engineer asked us this about a year ago. You know,
we're talking about some of the big you know, radio
artists like Elton John and they said, how many of
the top songs do you play? So in the city
they'll play like the top six or seven. We play
forty or fifty, but they're in a rotation so you'll
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never hear the same song twice. So, yes, we play
a lot of each artist because we that's the thing
we get. We have texting in our newsroom, so we
get texts all the time saying, oh, I haven't heard
that song in years. I love that song, and you
know those are things we kind of focus on.
Speaker 7 (39:55):
Well, no doubt, we're talking with Taylor Sterling again, part
of the Great Morning Show on wh EH and UH
and of course eighty eight three and a number of
other stations in New Jersey, New York UH and of
course the program director. So we'll be talking with her
and as we move along. Let me ask you one
final question here. Do you think that there is a
(40:19):
resurgence in in AM radio because I think that more
and more younger people, just as sort of the time
goes by, you know, they're they're discovering it because there's
a little bit of authentic elements to it. I mean,
you like the old telephone with the receivers and you know,
made a lot of made a lot of noise years ago.
(40:40):
Do you think there's something to that. I don't know
what your younger audience is, but I think there's kind
of a rebirth if you might, oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 24 (40:51):
And also there was a big fight because, if you know,
the car dealers wanted to take off AM and there
was a protest, and it's keeping it on. People love
to listen to a AM for many different reasons. It
is a throwback and it's something they can listen to
depending on, you know, how far you generate your signal.
They love the sound of it. That's what I hear
all the time. It's really interesting and I'm like, what
(41:12):
kind of sound are they talking about? And I guess
it's looks like when you put the needle on the
record player and you hear the U sound. I think
that's what they think they're hearing on the AM. So,
first of all, many young people are actually listening to
Rido for the same reason you just said. They're in
the car, you know, yes.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
You know, you actually have them there, and in a
place like captive audience, you just have to keep them
there and entertain them and inform them and in a
combination of both. Well, Taylor, is so great to have
you on. We we look forward to We're.
Speaker 24 (41:49):
Very happy to have your show on. Also, we're looking
forward to hearing it and looking forward to getting the
feedback and we show all the best. I'm sure it'll
be terrific.
Speaker 7 (41:59):
Taylor Sterling part of the Great Morning team here on
w g h T and surrounding stations in the New
Jersey area in ninety eight three uh and of course
the program director here too. Thank you so much, Taylor.
It's great to be part of your great team.
Speaker 24 (42:17):
And we love having you here. So enjoy yourself though,
I will.
Speaker 7 (42:21):
I'll try, that's for sure. We're gonna we're gonna go
down in flames. I'm gonna have fun doing it. Thanks
so much, Taylor, I appreciate it. Yeah, exactly and love
that outfit too.
Speaker 17 (42:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
We'll be of course talking to Taylor. Yeah, she's looking
good in the video as you can see there. Those
of you who are watching are listening on on the
great w g h T. There's a great video we
just pushed aside. But well we'll do it again. It's
a fantastic insight. Look at the program director and again
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the co host in the mornings in or the New
Jersey WGHT AM fifteen hundred and a couple of other
stations there as well. Well, all right, we're gonna stay
in New Jersey and talk to our good friend. She
is dynamic in so many ways. As the former deputy
(43:19):
chief of staff to the fantastic Governor Phil Murphy Massachusetts roots,
she has Massachusetts roots as well. She's also the executive
director of the fantastic New Jersey Education Association. So important
our educators, so important, our teachers to the future of
(43:39):
this country, as I said, the most important profession in
the United States. Deborah Cornovaka joins us. Deb great to
have you on the show, but today even more so
because then we're in your home state.
Speaker 17 (43:55):
Oh okay, well I thought we had her.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
Hopefully we'll get her any minute now. Well, one of
the things that you know we're going to talk to
Deb about is UH this race UH for governor and
it is it is critical that you know, New Jersey
continues to be blue.
Speaker 17 (44:16):
Murphy has done a really good job.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
You know, there there are some issues the energy costs
and so forth, but really, what is Republican going to do?
Speaker 17 (44:25):
Republicans going to lower your energy costs? Why?
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Because he's not in bed with the energy providers. I
don't know if a Republican who is not tied to
the one percent, you know and the police. So you know, yes,
there needs to be some some work done here and
and some reform. But you're going to get it with
miss Cheryl. You're not going to get it with Cinderelli.
(44:50):
So you know, come on, folks, just be really real
about this.
Speaker 17 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (44:55):
That's why we want to talk to Deb and we
do have her live on the roads in New Jersey again,
the former deputy chiefest staff to Governor Phil Murphy. And
now our good friend is the dynamic executive i should say,
government relations director at the New Jersey Education Association.
Speaker 17 (45:16):
Deb, How are you?
Speaker 25 (45:19):
I am feeling terrific I'm feeling the energy of the
day before election day here and doing well, thank you
very much.
Speaker 17 (45:27):
Well, it's good to be in your state on the air.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
That is, I'm not physically there at least not yet,
but lots going on in this election.
Speaker 17 (45:37):
I know you're excited.
Speaker 7 (45:39):
You know, it's good to be on wght AM fifteen
hundred gets into a lot of northern New Jersey, the
Newark area, Union and Patterson, So we're looking forward to,
you know, being on here for a while and talking
to people across the state in New Jersey. Also gets
into New York particularly and manhatt and the Bronx and
(46:02):
our friends like Herb Boyd and Harlem can also listen
in too, So we're excited about that.
Speaker 17 (46:08):
Give us the latest from what you see right now.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
You know, I've seen poles everywhere from one point to
seven points. I presume it somewhere in that three four middle.
Is that where things are?
Speaker 25 (46:23):
I would think? So, I think, look, we've seen what
we expect this to be as a close race because
our nation is highly polarized and highly divided, which is
you know the same for our state. But in every
poll except for one poll by Jack Chittarelli, Mikey Cheryl
has been has had a lead, whether it be a
small lead of one point or a much broader lead,
(46:43):
it's been a fairly consistent pattern that we're seeing New
Jersey ands are saying the change we want is a
change of defending us against the dangers of Donald Trump, right,
and that the only way we're going to address affordability
in this state is to have someone who will stand
up to his pole. So we're feeling pretty good. I
do expect it'll be a close race, and I'd love
(47:05):
to be wrong and see candidate my Serold blow it
out of the water. But what we're looking at is
a slim but life.
Speaker 23 (47:11):
A little easier for tomorrow.
Speaker 24 (47:14):
What was that?
Speaker 17 (47:14):
I think? I think you'd be be happy to have that.
Sit back, have a pina colada, and you know.
Speaker 25 (47:21):
If it eight fifteen week, could be celebrating, We'll be
totally happy.
Speaker 17 (47:27):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Deborah co Devaka, she's been through a lot of these
campaigns again, the deputy chief of staff to current Governor
of Phil Murphy.
Speaker 17 (47:35):
You know, I was talking about the UH.
Speaker 7 (47:37):
The issues of energy and so forth, but you know,
when's the last time, because you followed not only politics
in New Jersey, but around the country. Has a Republican
all of a sudden come to the rescue of people,
will making twenty five thirty thousand dollars a year and
reduce the energy costs. Oh yeah, we're going to take
on the one percent who put a lot of money
(47:57):
in our in our bank accounts. This is such a
bunch of crap, but this is how the Republicans role,
not only in New Jersey, but around the country.
Speaker 17 (48:06):
Your thoughts, Yeah.
Speaker 25 (48:09):
I mean, I think it's an unfortunate fact that we
can demonstrate that trickle down economics is a myth that
when Republicans control government, they will consistently provide more tax
breaks to the very wealthy, you know, trying to use
this myth to justify it.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
And the middle.
Speaker 25 (48:28):
Class are squeezed even tighter, and those struggling to get
into the middle class have even less opportunity. And you know,
this Trumpet administration is a demonstration of that. Right, the
policies he's enacting, the tariffs he's putting in, all of
it are creating more insecurity, more strife. Right, eight hundred
thousand people in the state of New Jersey. Right, now
going without their food benefits. He's not here to help
(48:51):
look out for the people who need the help the most.
He's looking at for his friends. And he's a much
wealthier president for it. And I have no reason to
believe that a governor who a scribe to the MAGA
party would not do the same for the state.
Speaker 17 (49:05):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Come on, now, it's you know, I mean, this is
this is one time the country Club Republicans, uh, and
now they're MAGA and country Club all wrapped into one
and being led down the Rosie path of mister Trump.
And you know where that could potentially and then it's
not a good place for the American.
Speaker 25 (49:26):
People nowhere right exactly.
Speaker 7 (49:30):
Deborah Conorvaka is our guest here on the Jeff Santo Show.
You can phone in at eight three three five four
five five three three three.
Speaker 26 (49:37):
You know.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
The other part two that I think is going to
be fascinating here is you know how we all come
out come you know, Wednesday morning, you know the race
New Jersey Course across the uh the Hudson is Mamdani
looks like he's going to be the next mayor of
(49:58):
New York City, you know, barring some tammany Hall hijinks
otherwise you know that should take place. And then of
course you have Prop fifty in California and our friends
listening on KCAA they're in the greater Los Angeles area.
You have Prop fifty of course having an impact all
across the country because of the way the house races,
(50:21):
and there's house races in New Jersey, the former governor's son,
Congressman Kaine, that's a key race. There's a whole slew
of others as well. Talk to me about the impact
of how the momentum if the Democrats were to take
you know, four or five of these races. Of course,
there's Supreme Court races in Pennsylvania, although that is not
(50:42):
as high profile as Governor and mayor.
Speaker 17 (50:45):
Give me your thoughts about what will be you know,
coming out.
Speaker 7 (50:48):
We're going to try to get d n C Chair
Martin on the show over the next few days and
see if that potentially, you know, could occur, to get
his perspective on where the party goes your the.
Speaker 25 (51:02):
Well, you know, I think it is true. We have
two googleratorial races this year and Virginia, New Jersey. You
feel like bell Weather's right, everybody's got our eyes on us,
because this is the moment to say, are we building momentum,
are we building strength and power as a Democratic party
to lead to the midterms where you know, Trump is
making it harder to get control of that House, but
we're gon we're gonna fight really hard to do it.
(51:23):
We've already been very involved in those races, and so
I think it's really important to have that momentum, and
I want to and I want to combine it with
the conviction and the discipline of the party at the
federal level in holding fast to the shutdown to fight
for affordable health care for the residents of this country.
Speaker 24 (51:40):
Right.
Speaker 25 (51:41):
I think if they're holding firm there and we win
these races, it's going to make negotiations at the federal
level better for Democrats. They're going to have more leverage
back in the White House and in Congress. And I
don't really want to talk about if we don't lose them,
but I think that that momentum is critical to help
us catapult into the world we need to do in
the midterms, which is take back at least one of
(52:02):
the houses so that we can begin to put the
brakes on so much of what he's doing. I will
just say that so much of what this president is
doing is extra legal, outside the bounds of you know,
appears to me outside the bounds of constitutional and legal
and separation of powers and balance of the three, you know,
parts of government. That it won't completely stop him, but
it will, I think, slow him down, and it will
(52:24):
give people more trust in faith in the Democratic Party
again that we're here to do the work of the
real people of this country. So I a technically important
and I think we're building.
Speaker 26 (52:35):
Yeah, God, I.
Speaker 17 (52:37):
Agree with you. Were building for sure.
Speaker 7 (52:39):
We're also building is a lot of expensive groceries. You know,
I and you of course grew up in Massachusetts. You know,
I'm holding my Dunkin Donuts bag of coffee here. One
pound went from September fifteenth at the local S and
s to seven dollars on the fifteenth of September to
a weekly eight or fourteen dollars in ninety nine cents.
(53:03):
This is the Trump tariff economy, and this is only
going to get worse. And you know, the Supreme Court
decision coming on the tariffs tomorrow. You will see if
the Supreme Court stands up or like everyone else, gets
to be the puppet tears. I'm wondering where you think,
you know, people in New Jersey are with the cost
(53:25):
of living, the cost to coffee that dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 17 (53:27):
Is obviously in New Jersey as well as it is
in the Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (53:30):
To me, this is something that is going to I think,
really destroy the incumbent president because he came in on this.
Oh the economy is so bad on the bud it
Oh it's so bad. What is now? You know, and
the polls are showing this as well. Your thoughts they
are dead.
Speaker 25 (53:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, certainly his favorabilities are down because
everybody's looking at prices going up and it's getting harder
to do. And I think that's one reason it's so
important to have a democratic governor here, because while a
democratic governor can't can his irrational actions on the tariffs,
we can put some controls on prices in the state.
We can manage other big cost drivers like energy and housing.
(54:10):
But I do think that, you know, we need to
speak more truth to power as a party and point
out the fact that he can say whatever he wants.
It doesn't make it true, but you know, you look
at your grocery bill, I look at my grocery bill.
Families are getting squeezed, and for so many families in
New Jersey, we talk about asset limited, income constrained, but
employed people who live paycheck to paycheck. They're making decisions
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between paying their rent, or paying their grocery bill, or
paying their medicine, or paying their utility bills. That's not
a way that we should be satisfied with people living.
And that's getting worse under this president because of all
the irrational, erratic things that he's doing. We can help
stop that with a democratic governor in New Jersey, and
we could stop his you know, his kind of kind
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of pathway of destruction if we could take back the
Congress next year.
Speaker 7 (54:59):
Well, pathways struction is a good way to describe it.
We're in a couple of minutes here left in the
segment with our good friend Deborah cornovaka again former deputy
chief of staff to Governor Phil Murphy outgoing governor and
hopefully to replace by Ms.
Speaker 17 (55:14):
Cheryl come early January.
Speaker 7 (55:17):
And of course deb is now also the New Jersey
Education Association government relations director. You know, we talked to
your friends out in California last week and mister Goldberg,
the president of the California Teachers Association, and we're talking
about all of the teachers that are so valuable the
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educator's special ed. You know, we talked to your good
friend and mine and Melissa Thomlinson, the badass teachers every week.
And the thing that is important here is to have
a friend to public school educators in the corner office,
if you might, the governor's position in New Jersey. And
(55:59):
that is a critical thing because I mean, you know, again,
the future drives up if you if you really squash
and of course it really would do just that. Talk
to me about it as a as an educator yourself,
and and to me, this is this is a priority
that you know needs to be taken care of because
(56:21):
as as Melissa has said, the funding has been cut off,
it's dried up. You can't get any programs done. You know,
you can't help people. And again, you know this is outrageous.
If you can't take care of the young, the future
dries up.
Speaker 17 (56:36):
It is that simple deb Yeah.
Speaker 25 (56:38):
And it tells it tells us something about the kind
of moral leader you are, right, which I don't think
we need a reminder of from this president. But he's
reminding us yet again, like, first of all, public democracy, right,
it is absolutely foundational, and we have to protect it.
A governor here that would follow the lead of President
Trump would bring in voucher programs, which would lead public
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school money and lead to, you know, increase stress on
our public schools, fewer resources for kids who need the
most support who aren't going to those schools. They would
expand charter schools, which are generally, you know, under our
current law, kind of unaccountable to the same budgeting and
transparency practices, which is something we need to address. And
you know he's talking, he is, he's defunding critical programs
(57:21):
for our student support. But I'll also say, you know,
we have about half of or a third of the
eight hundred thousand people who rely on Snap benefits are
our students, and they're all coming to school hungry right
now because when they tried to go grocery shopping this weekend,
their snap cards weren't put back up, and our members
across the state are activating food drives because that's unacceptable
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to them. It is morally reprehensible that he would do this.
And we also know that a child who comes to
school hungry, is not ready to learn. So our educators
are going to always step up to defend it, to
defend their students and their schools. And to do that, well, yeah,
we absolutely need an ally who's going to prioritize public
education as a foundation part of our democracy in the
State House. And then eventually we need to get back
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to having one in the White House too.
Speaker 7 (58:06):
Yeah, that's for sure. You know, look, this is uh,
this is pretty pretty primary. I mean look around, you know,
the rest of the world. You know, you look at Scanning,
the Navy, you look at UK, France, Japan, all of
these folks they model originally after Roosevelt. But I've gone
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on to do even better than what was laid out
by FDR in terms of education.
Speaker 17 (58:34):
And we need to catch up.
Speaker 7 (58:36):
And you're only going to catch up by investing in
education and not investing, you know, top down, because that
will never fly and it never works because only a
handful of people. That's the charge of school mentality. You know,
they they take the best kids from the public school and.
Speaker 17 (58:53):
Say, oh, look at us, We're we got great numbers.
Speaker 7 (58:55):
Well yeah, sure, anybody can take the cream of the crops.
What about the bottom? What happens to them, you know,
they just fall into the sewer. Yeah, so that's unfortunate thing.
I got thirty seconds. Deb tell us why this is
important for Democrats to win in New Jersey tomorrow.
Speaker 25 (59:13):
Well, this is this is a critical race for New Jersey.
This is a critical race for the middle class and
those trying to get into it. This is a critical
race for the nation and for the Democratic Party. This
will determine what kind of fight we have in the
next two years ahead to begin to gain momentum to
kind of redirect this country back to a true democracy
and away from the fascism that we're seeing practice right
now and towards you know, a country which takes care
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of of all of their residents, regardless of their immigration status,
regardless of their color, their religion, their sexual orientation. We've
got a lot of work to do, but we're prepared
to contribute our efforts tomorrow by electing Mikey Cheryl.
Speaker 7 (59:49):
Deb I agree with you, and do do it, and
thank you. And it's good to be back in New York,
New Jersey. Could be in your home state of New
State of New Jersey.
Speaker 25 (01:00:01):
Talk soon got thrilled to have you in Jersey. Thank
you so much.
Speaker 17 (01:00:05):
Take care you too, did We'll bright back.
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Now here's Jeff. We sweated it out on the streets.
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And not we rather the mansions of Glory and Suiciadneschines,
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Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
Seven, Oh, it's so great to be in New Jersey, folks.
A little bit of the cover bands that uh play
Bruce Springsteen hits uh And of course it's a great.
Speaker 17 (01:07:55):
Born to run.
Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
It was Mondani born and Run, and all these folks
that are running, you know, for governor in Virginia, New
Jersey and of course Madnani in New York City, and
I think no doubt and led by the fantastic governor
in California, Gavin Newsom, who was a prototype in many ways.
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We're all going to be excited, I believe, on Wednesday.
And somebody who is going to be monitoring all of
these races and what is next is our next guest.
He is Mal Poindexter. He is the Mondays with Mel.
He is of course our outreach director here at the
Jeff Santo Show and formerly NAACP. Brockton, Massachusetts Vice President.
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And it is so good to have the DNC member
on this election eve with us. Mister Poindexter, Hello sir,
how are.
Speaker 10 (01:08:53):
You well, Miss Santos?
Speaker 17 (01:08:55):
How are you?
Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
Are you excited? Tommy A big day, I'm telling.
Speaker 17 (01:09:02):
You, big day right now?
Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
Yes, yeah, And it's good to be in New York,
New Jersey today as we debut.
Speaker 17 (01:09:12):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
So we're talking to our friends and then and then
we just talked to Deborah Cornavaka used to be the
chief of deputy chief of staff to Governor Phil Murphy
in that race. It looks good right now. Four or
five points, I think is about where things stand, uh
in New Jersey. And of course Mamdani the nominee endorsed
(01:09:33):
by Hakeem Jeffries. We look to have on in the
in the coming weeks, hopefully next next year or a
year after I guess twenty seven, will be the new
Speaker of the House.
Speaker 17 (01:09:46):
God we need one.
Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
We need we need to have a massive improvement there too.
And Uh, mister Jeffries is just that. So, uh, You're
going to be keeping an eye on a lot of
these things. And of course, our friends in California Prop
fifty we may in a major announcement next week, I
mean next week next hour on a doubleheader tomorrow night
in both San Francisco and Los Angeles as well.
Speaker 17 (01:10:10):
Mister mel what say you? What are you looking at?
Speaker 10 (01:10:14):
Well, first of all, I just want everyone and I'm
pretty sure in New York and New Jersey's already heard
about this. But the federal judge you know, of course,
intercepted Trump's attempt to try to seize control of the
voting process, the ballots and use that turn it over
(01:10:36):
to DOGE. Okay, sensitive voter information. Okay, this is all
part of his intimidation. Remember you were talking about this
last week where he's you know, over in like California
with the Pop fifty, trying to use the DOJ to
try to intimidate voters over there. So not being satisfied
with no, He's now trying to use a his his authority,
(01:11:01):
as you know, the occupant of the White House, to
try to seize control of the voting process. Okay, Now,
on one hand. On the other hand, I'm.
Speaker 22 (01:11:12):
Sure you voted.
Speaker 10 (01:11:13):
Your listeners have heard that he's talking about five hundred
you know, national Guard troops in each state to supposedly
help and anticipate problems.
Speaker 17 (01:11:26):
On the ground. Okay, destroy people, that's what he's gonna do.
Give me a I mean, this is what this is
all about.
Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
It's intimidation for those key communities who have always been
die hard Democratic supporters. Okay, So if I if I
can't win you over by telling you the truth, then
let me send in somebody to try to intimidate you
so you're don't come out and vote.
Speaker 17 (01:11:53):
Yeah, it comes to baseball bet exactly.
Speaker 30 (01:11:55):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (01:11:56):
You know the way they roll.
Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
You know, look, they they're they're well known at BS.
They're well known as being the con men, and of
course Trump is the ultimate con man. And you know
if they can't do it, they're gonna cheat. You know
they they were caught redheaded in twenty twenty with Georgia.
You know, I need I need an interview. Votes here,
you gotta find them for me. You know that the
(01:12:20):
famous call to uh Rafts and Perger, the Secretary of State.
Speaker 17 (01:12:24):
You know, this is this is how they roll and
and people better.
Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
Wake up, you know, you know, those those folks that
are waiting in line to vote, wake up. Smell the
coffee and you know it's gonna cost you a lot
more thanks to Donald Trump. Here as we bring out
the the fourteen dollars bag of Duncan Donuts.
Speaker 17 (01:12:46):
Coffee for you.
Speaker 7 (01:12:47):
Uh, thank you, Donald Trump on tariff. You know this
is this is where we are. You really want to
keep this up? Come on, folks, you're gonna put You're
gonna put. Yes, you're gonna have to put a lamp
on this. And the way you do that is you
elect democratic governors in New Jersey and of course in Virginia.
And you have a standout democratic mayor of New York
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City with the biggest microphone of all in the major
media market in America in New York City, number one
media market, and of course across the across the Great
America is another great communicator in Gavin Newsom. Together, that
is how you push back and you take back our democracy.
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And I tell you I was saying this earlier in
my commentary and I know you understand this. I think
it is incumbent upon mister Martin, and we're hoping to
try to get them on the show sometime this week.
Let the outsiders lead you. It is not about Washington insiders.
It's about Newsom, it's about Mamdanie, it's about Crockett's, it's
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about the two new governors. Let them speak, put them
at the front of the lines. And I tell you
they understand. They know how to talk, they know how
to communicate, And that to me is so critical.
Speaker 17 (01:14:11):
You agreemel, Well.
Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
Yeah, remember we were talking last week that it's the
people who are on the ground.
Speaker 17 (01:14:17):
Okay, it's those.
Speaker 10 (01:14:18):
Those governors, mayors, It's it's the the DNC members like myself.
It's it's the communicators like you who are out there
actually talking to the people. And I've had this conversation
with our chair chair Martin, and I've I've expressed this
to him. You know how important it is to let
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let the a team on the ground, Let them drive
the conversation. Okay, you you you're you're sitting there, your
coach on the field, you lift that. You let your
your number one quarterback drive it. You don't have to
worry about it.
Speaker 17 (01:14:55):
You've got a good defensive line. Let them do it.
Speaker 10 (01:14:57):
You've got people who actually are out there talk to
people that people respect and feel that they understand and
can can empathize with what they're going through day to day. Okay,
this you're right, this is not Washington. This is politics
are local. All politics are local. It's what's happening on
the ground in your particular area. And it's the people
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who are talking directly to.
Speaker 17 (01:15:21):
You that you feel.
Speaker 10 (01:15:22):
You feel my pain, you know what I'm going through.
You understand the situations that we're experiencing. You know, hey,
that fourteen dollars coffee is a key example of what
you're experiencing. And you know, and exactly the people go
into Duncans, who know, hey, look, this is what I'm
dealing with every day. Okay, so I feel your pain.
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I'm standing next to you in line, so I know
what you're feeling. That's what I told that's what we
need to do.
Speaker 17 (01:15:50):
Thank you, mister Trump. Right, it's just your tariffs.
Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
You know, they're going to try to get the Supreme Court,
you know, to bend down and you know, once again
take a knee for mister Trump. You know, I mean,
this is this is the typical you know, b aske
that we're getting from the Supreme Court. Wake up, Wake
up Roberts, Wake up Tavanaugh. You know this is you know,
you've got kids going to college in uh in Cambridge
at Harvard. This is what they're gonna be paying. You know,
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think about that, Okay, And this.
Speaker 10 (01:16:18):
Is what people are feeling. So it's not like it's
some out of out of touch thing that people don't experience.
Your experiences every day and everybody experiences it. Everybody feels
that economic pain. And that's the thing that we as
Democrats have to continue to translate to people. We feel it,
we understand it. We're standing next to you, and we're
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gonna help you resolve it. That's what we're fighting for.
That's what tomorrow is all about, is fighting for your
right to turn this economy around so that people like
you and I and everybody who goes to work every
day can feel like you could that somebody's out there
actually listening to them.
Speaker 7 (01:16:56):
We're talking with a man that you want in your
foxhole and know I want him in my foxhole. That
of course is mel Poindexter, d NC WRAP from the
Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts, former vice president of the Fantastic
NAACP and Brockton Massachusetts, home of the true fighters Rocky
Marciano and marvelous Marvin Hagler. And of course he goes
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in that same category, does mister mel So?
Speaker 17 (01:17:25):
Eight three three five four five five three three three.
Speaker 7 (01:17:28):
Is the phone number to join is Kevin will let
us know who we have on the phone lines in
my in my ear And you can repeat that again, Kevin,
I couldn't quite catch you, but I must say this,
mel Do you feel as I do that, to quote
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the great Tracy Chapman, that the tables are starting to turn?
Talk about a revolution again. We believe in a peaceful revolution,
but that's a.
Speaker 17 (01:17:59):
Story from other day.
Speaker 7 (01:18:01):
I really feel that what we saw a couple of
Saturdays ago, seven million strong across this country and in
massive cities in San Francisco and Chicago and New York,
but in small towns you know, where fifty one hundred,
two hundred and fifty people showed up. And to me,
this is an example of people saying enough is enough.
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You know, it's the fourteen dollars for the dunkin Donuts coffee,
It's it's the outrageous stuff that he's doing in Canada.
And my friends, they don't want to come here. They
don't want to go to Florida. We talked to Doug McClain,
the hockey coach who list half the year in Florida
and half the year in Prince Edward Island.
Speaker 17 (01:18:39):
He says, it's outrageous. I'm caught in the middle here.
Why for what? For what reason? And this is what
you know, America is now known for being a bully.
That's right, I mean right.
Speaker 10 (01:18:51):
Seven million people two weekends ago came out and said
we've had enough. And you saw the translation of that
in New Jersey, in New York. In you have people
right now in Virginia who are mobilized. You have it
happening in California Prop fifty. We've talked about how Prop
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fifty is ignited across the country that Democrats can now
see and feel that I don't have to accept what's
coming down from the White House, that I actually can
fight back. And you see it happening in each state.
You know, tomorrow's going to be crucial in terms of
showing Washington that we're not gonna we are not standing
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for it. You see the movement in terms of the
governor's race. You see the movement in terms of the
mayor's race. You see the movement in terms of the
fight back against this illegal ill redistricting that the Republicans
are trying to do. So we told them you want
to play, that we're gonna play. We can play just
as hardball as you do. And you see that with
Prop fifty now that they see that we're not just
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gonna stand by an idly take it.
Speaker 17 (01:19:58):
What are they doing now?
Speaker 10 (01:20:00):
Now he's talking about sending in truth to try to
intimidate people. What's he talking about now, I'm going to
send in a DJ to try.
Speaker 17 (01:20:06):
To intimidate people.
Speaker 10 (01:20:08):
You can't intimidate seven million people. They don't scare easy.
You're not scared, and I'm not scared. And we're ready
to go, and we're in that foxhole and we're going
to fight till the very end. And tomorrow's proved positive
that people's voices are going to be heard.
Speaker 7 (01:20:26):
Don't mess with Massachusetts, don't mess with another forty nine
states too. That is the calling card here as we
talk with our good friend Mail Poindexter. We'll go to
Minnesota in a minute and talk to our good friend John,
who I know has some energy and some ideas that
he wants to share with mister mel again the phone
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number to join us eight three three five four five
five three three three. I want to talk about something
that I saw that's pretty amazing. And again the fantastic
candidate of Mamdani again endorsed by Jefferies, endorsed by Hawkfell,
the Governor of New York, endorsed by so many of course,
Bernie and AOC and all that. But to me, you know,
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are you know it's so important to be able to
have that great communicator. He's getting young people. I mean,
they're registering in droves, which is going to be really
the reason that he wins by double digits. And my
guess in the end that is so important. How much
did we talk about this, you know, early on in
(01:21:31):
the last couple of weeks we talked about it off
the year, what happened to young people back in UH
and then twenty four you know that Trump had a
lot of folks that he had bamboozled with a capital B.
And to me, mom, Donnie said, oh yeah, I can
play that game too, and he is doing it, and
(01:21:52):
I think it's a blueprint for democrats.
Speaker 17 (01:21:54):
Writ large your thoughts. Then we'll go to.
Speaker 10 (01:21:59):
Having great communicators, people who can actually talk to people,
talk to people about what they're experiencing. That's right, and
did I talk about that? Exactly What happened in twenty
twenty four was the fact that we lost a lot
of that that key constituency because they felt we weren't
listening to them, we didn't hear them, and we didn't
(01:22:20):
understand what their perspective in terms of the future. He
has identified, I'm listening, okay, and I'm part of the
big team. Okay, So it's not we're not just completely
ignoring you. We're actually listening. And you can see it
by their response to him is that it's a matter
of I see someone who feels what I'm going through
(01:22:41):
and I can relate to and that that translates hopefully
across the country where we're gonna use that as the blueprint.
This is the blueprint is part of the twenty twenty
sixth strategy to take back the House. That's what we're
gonna do. People like people that the great communicators, bringing
them out, bringing up out to people moving across the country,
(01:23:02):
and telling everybody we're all in this.
Speaker 17 (01:23:04):
Together, no doubt about it.
Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
All right, Somebody that I think agrees with you and
has questions and comments. Is our good friend John in
the Twin Cities there in Minneapolis. You're next with Mail Poindexter.
Go right ahead, mister John de.
Speaker 18 (01:23:24):
Yeah, people are tired of a politics that supports the
one percent. We buried those people in the nineteen thirties
with a new Deal, and we created the largest middle
class in the entire world right here in this country.
(01:23:47):
But the same policies were pretty much adopted throughout the
First World, in Europe and after the war. So like,
why do we want to go back act you know,
to the days of.
Speaker 17 (01:24:04):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 18 (01:24:05):
The f Scott Fitzgerald play the great gaps.
Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
We don't need any more great gap. Moment that that's done. Well,
you did mister Trump have his party, you know, you know,
looking like he's trying to be you know, great Gatsby again.
Speaker 18 (01:24:27):
Yeah, it's like you know Louis the sixteenth, you know,
having Versailles and having all of the party as well.
The peasants were revolting and basically starving to death. And
essentially this is what the Republicans brought to this country
unnecessarily and maliciously. And you know, I grew up on
(01:24:52):
Long Island, so I can tell you I've seen the
set of The Great Gats. I know what that it's
what that.
Speaker 8 (01:24:59):
Was all all about.
Speaker 18 (01:25:01):
From a young age, I learned that, you know, these
people lived so excessively and extracted so much from everyone,
the labor that they extracted and not paid their employees
when they were working like sixty hours a week. And
then the same in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (01:25:22):
I mean you know the fact, John, Yeah, I mean
they went to Newport, you know, and and they came
up to Boston.
Speaker 17 (01:25:33):
And right right all the way.
Speaker 18 (01:25:39):
Yet believe the Vanderbilts, they actually they actually had their
own private highway from one escape to the other. And
then if they got bored, they could you know, swing
across the Long Island Sound to Newport where they served
up gems in sandboxes to their guests while most people
(01:26:00):
were living hand to mouth, I mean, they were living
in ghettos. It's undescribable inequality that they created. And and
for what this is not the promise of democracy, the promise.
Speaker 17 (01:26:16):
Of the.
Speaker 7 (01:26:19):
You know, take, take, take whoever it is, you know,
with Tom Brady takes the cups even though he's a
millionaire athlete, and uh, you know.
Speaker 17 (01:26:28):
He takes the free cups. That's what the rich do.
Speaker 31 (01:26:31):
Go ahead and mil you know, and and John's hitting
on it the fact that you know, he's trying to
create a split society, the haves and the have not,
and we're on the side of the FDR.
Speaker 10 (01:26:45):
Everybody is equal, but has an equal right at the table,
and each has a responsibility to look out for the other.
And that's exactly the point that John's making is that
whereas you know, the occupant is trying to create the
society of lifting eat cake and those who don't have
don't deserve. And that is one of the key things
that we're fighting against. We're fighting back against that because
(01:27:08):
we're not going to allow him to turn a society
into a have and have not society. It's not happening.
That's why we're fighting. That's why you saw seven seven
million people out there. And guess what it's going to
continue to be that until we take take back the
government that belongs, the democracy that belongs to the people.
Speaker 7 (01:27:28):
That is why again I want mel Poindexter in my
fox soul. Thank you John for the call. I want
you there too. You know, folks, we care, We care
because you know we're we're talking about this. We could
be Oh well, let's just you know, let's let's just
negotiate and you know, let mister Schumer and mister Jeffries
(01:27:48):
talk there and you know, and they'll they'll handle it out. Yeah,
you know, you let that happen, you know, you force Democrats,
you know, with their hands tied behind their back. Oh,
to come and mister Johnson and miss Thune, we'll figure
it out. And then Trump will backstab you as he
normally does, you know, as he waits there. Oh well,
I don't want to get involved until they settle it,
(01:28:08):
and then I'll get involved.
Speaker 14 (01:28:09):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
This is the kind of lead leadership from behind, you know,
I mean, somebody does not have your back, he'll throw
you into the fox hole. That's what he'll do. Uh,
mister Trump, Thank you so much. John Now just about
a minute here. Look, I think tomorrow can go a
number of different ways. And you know, in my view,
(01:28:32):
Democrats stick to your progressive ideas that FDR started and
have been, you know, gone in a lot of different
ways with Kennedy and Johnson before Vietnam and Obama, uh
and Bernie Sanders and so forth. We do that we
win your final thoughts exactly.
Speaker 10 (01:28:48):
We I mean, those are values that translate culturally, they
translate gender, they translate racially, they you know, they translate.
Speaker 22 (01:28:58):
By a each.
Speaker 10 (01:29:00):
I mean, everybody is positively impacted by those values, and
those are the things that people need to remember tomorrow
as you're going out to vote. The good thing about
is we've had quite a few people who've.
Speaker 17 (01:29:11):
Already voted, you know, early voting.
Speaker 10 (01:29:14):
Which is a good sign because it shows people are
equally just as committed as you and I to getting
this right, turning the country around. So tomorrow is the
big day, Tomorrow's day that people get their opportunity to
tell him. Get ready, I know you've already started tearing
up the White House, but that's all right, because once
we throw you out, we're gonna fix it.
Speaker 22 (01:29:35):
We're gonna turn it back.
Speaker 12 (01:29:36):
Right.
Speaker 17 (01:29:37):
So Tomorrow's is gonna be for roller skating. Here you
go exactly exactly.
Speaker 10 (01:29:45):
Our day, and thank you.
Speaker 25 (01:29:50):
Vote.
Speaker 17 (01:29:51):
There you go, I'll be right back. That's right. You
gotta do it.
Speaker 7 (01:29:56):
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We're right back.
Speaker 17 (01:30:00):
Thanks.
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Thirty three minutes past the hour.
Speaker 7 (01:33:41):
It is the Jeff Santo Show that you are tuned into.
You know, a bunch of years ago, had the great
opportunity to talk with our next guest, Alex Siteswell, he
was a fantastic producer, a reporter with MSNBC and and
you know it's so great. I saw him the other
(01:34:03):
day on one of the MSNBC's afternoon shows. But the
fantastic thing is a great journalist and a very good
person in you know, this is why you know, I
believe in the human being. You know you're talking about AI.
You talk about the idea. You really want good people
(01:34:26):
and positions of power.
Speaker 17 (01:34:28):
Now, the.
Speaker 7 (01:34:31):
Key thing here is people. You know, sometimes you get
to New York City. I think there's an old adage,
you know, if you stay too long, you grow too hard.
If you go to San Francisco, you grow too soft
to stay too long. Well, my good friend Alex cites
Wald again formerly MSNBC political reporter producer, now is in
(01:34:52):
Maine as the deputy editor the Mid Coast Villager, and
he joins us via telephone. I belie, Alex. So great
to have you back on, my friend. Thank you, and
thank you for doing the right thing. I can imagine
it's a little bit easier than battling Manhattan traffic there
(01:35:13):
at thirty Rock, Uh, where you are now on the
coast of Maine.
Speaker 17 (01:35:18):
It's great to have you, my friend.
Speaker 8 (01:35:19):
How are you, hey, Jeff, thanks so much for having me,
and I appreciate that those.
Speaker 38 (01:35:24):
Kind words in the ninth intro, Well, no, it's uh,
it's honest to God, it's it's you know, it's who
you are, and I think that's that's a fantastic and
I would love to find out, you know, how you
decided to make this transition.
Speaker 7 (01:35:41):
You know, it's not the first time, of course, in
the journalist leave you know, the big city of Manhattan
and New York City to go to a smaller place.
But you know, Maine. You know, I'm a New Englander.
It's a fantastic place in the summertime.
Speaker 17 (01:35:55):
People love it. Winter time. You've got to be tough,
but I know you can handle that. You made the decision.
Speaker 8 (01:36:03):
Yeah. So I was, as you said, a reporter for
MSNBC and then NBC News for fifteen years in DC,
traveled all across the country covering presidential campaign, senate campaign.
I think I went to like forty four states on
the job, and you know, it was a great job
(01:36:25):
considering what's happening in all of media at the moment.
But I was looking to do something a little different.
And then it was really those circumstances beyond my control
that let me do this, which is my mom got
sick and she lived here. She raised me as a
single mother. I'm an only child, so I knew that
(01:36:46):
that day would come at some point. Came sooner than
I hoped her expected. But I was going back and
forth and from DC to Maine, and then in twenty
twenty two she was unfortunately, her health was out good.
She's doing okay, But we decided to move up full time,
and so I kept doing the job for NBC here,
(01:37:09):
which was very different. But then last year I heard
about this new newspaper that was starting up. They it's
the local paper in the town that I live in.
There were these four historic papers that go back to
eighteen hundreds that unfortunately were failing. Like so many other papers,
forty percent of newspapers have closed down and passed. Local
(01:37:31):
newsapers closed down in the past twenty years. Seventy three
percent of reporters for those papers out of work. So
these papers were no different. But the owner decided that
instead of just shutting them down, he wanted to try
to take one big swing to see if he can
make something work. So roll the papers together have this
really great vision for how to re energize local paper,
(01:37:54):
reinvent local news, and that is the Mid Coast Villager,
which is where I work now. We opened a caf
Fay earlier this year to be a place in town
where people can come and act and connect with each other,
pitch us stories. We hold events there. We also have
our owner also a little hotel next door where we're
(01:38:14):
holding writing retreats. We just last month had our first
writing retreat. So we're trying to come up with other
ways that a local newspaper and a local news outlet
can be vital and relevant and important in the community
and also make money in a sustainable way because advertising
doesn't cut it anymore. Subscriptions don't cut it anymore.
Speaker 17 (01:38:36):
Oh, it's much different.
Speaker 7 (01:38:37):
You know, it's fascinating because today we're debuting on WGHTAM
fifteen hundred and ninety eight three FM, and we just
had on the program director Taylor Stirling. We're talking about
AM radio, and a lot of younger people gen z
Ers and so forth are fascinated with the sound and
the course. You know, in some car radios, the older
(01:39:00):
ones you don't have the FM and you know, obviously
they're all still on FM too, but you know, AM radio,
small weekly papers or daily papers, you know, they say, oh,
that's the thing of the past. You know, Jeff, you're
you know, you're living in the twentieth century. I'm like, well,
why can't we have it in the twenty first century?
You know, if you had good journalism, you know, in
the twentieth century, and you had it on radio, and
(01:39:20):
you had it on black and white TV, and you
had it on in the print, why why can't you
do it again? So I think there's a need. I
think what you guys are doing is serving the public
in Maine. And we're going to get into the big
Senate race coming up in a minute here. But I
think that you know, you're you're really ahead of the
curve because I think people want to be able to
(01:39:42):
connect and they want to connect human being to human being.
You know, you can go and get a cup of
coffee and you know and talk to people about you know,
well what's going on, who's going to win the Senate race?
And you know, what are the issues and how can
they get solved? And I think somebody who's doing that
and door to door is in New York City and Mom, Donnie,
I mean when he gets on a bus. You and
(01:40:04):
I have covered a lot of elections, right, you get it.
The last time I've seen somebody get on a bus,
not you know, the John McCain bus when it was
lavished with you know, bars and stuff. I'm talking about
you know a bus that you know probably smells from urine,
and you know, you get you know a lot of
annoyed people because the bus, you know, goes at two
miles an hour. As mom Donnie was talking about this,
(01:40:27):
you know people, that's what people do every day. They
don't have the comforts of Donald Trump and limousines and
everything else. And I think this kind of all flies
to where you are and thank you to be a caregiver.
Speaker 17 (01:40:38):
I am also one.
Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
It to me is a wonderful thing that you're doing
to help your mom as well. But talk to me
about that because I think all of this kind of connects.
Speaker 8 (01:40:51):
Yeah, I completely agree, and I love what you're saying
about AM radio. There I do feel like I mean,
you know we're doing We of course have a web site.
We actually just launched relaunched our website today. We redesigned it.
Weird have are on social media. We've seen huge growth
on Instagram. We're doing all that stuff. But the live
events and the physical newspaper I think really connect with people.
(01:41:15):
And you mentioned gen Z being interested in AM radio.
We've really seen that too, Like The historic newspaper subscription
subscriptions were you know, older folks, people who had subscribed forever,
and then it kind of dropped off a cliff. We've
seen our demographics younger. Those people have stayed, but the
younger people have started to come on. People who have
never subscribed to a newspaper in their life like what
(01:41:36):
we're doing. They think it's interesting. And there's so much
backlash too. We're all spending too much time on our phones.
We're worried about AI that having a physical paper or
a physical radio in your car. It's people like it,
and a lot of gen Z people like it too.
And it's interesting if you look at like, you know,
we all know about Vinyl records, how they they sell
(01:41:57):
off a cliff and then they made this comeback. And
the same is true with book sales. Physical book sales
are up year over year for the past like five
or six years. So we hope that we can do
that with local newspapers. But you're absolutely right that it's
all about connecting with people on a human level, meeting
them where they are in a real way. And I
think just as politicians do that, we as journalists and
(01:42:22):
reporters have to do that too, because we have to
represent the community. We have to be where people are,
and I talk about that with our staff all the time.
I want us to be visible. I want us to
be known. I want our community to know that when
there's an ice storm and the power goes out, our
power goes out too. That our kids are going are
(01:42:43):
going to the same schools as their kids. We're rooting
for the same teams. We're going to the same place
to go trick or treating on Halloween. We are members
of this community. We care about this community. And I
think just because local news has eroded so much, the
only reporters and journalism that people spposed to us coming
out of New York or DC. They don't know those people.
(01:43:03):
And at the Central Park they got superpowers that we
could be closer.
Speaker 17 (01:43:11):
I agree.
Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Now, I was just saying that, you know a lot
of those DC folks, you know, they follow the president,
they follow the members of Congress, but they don't get
a chance to get out to see you know, Camden, Maine,
or even you know the south coast here in Massachusetts.
I'm holding up you can't see it, but it's the
Sunday section of the of the Boston Globe, and you
(01:43:32):
know they were ranking in the arts section. You know,
two very fantastic shows from the twentieth century, by the
way Seinfeld and All in the Family, you know, two
very iconic shows, one from the seventies, one from the nineties.
And you know, so you know, you can learn a
lot and it's just great to feel a newspaper. I
(01:43:53):
get it every day and to me, it's it's so
important to have that. Okay, So you got a guy
who's very authentic, authentic as as the newspaper that you
are the deputy editor of. He is running for senate,
mister Planter. He has captured you know, a lot of people,
(01:44:16):
you know, seven hundred, eight hundred people in these different
events that he hosts.
Speaker 17 (01:44:21):
And these are talents of like four thousand.
Speaker 7 (01:44:23):
People, so you know, half the population out or less, uh,
you know, are are are coming to these events. So
you know, there's been a lot of hooplot because he
said certain things and he has a tattoo and all
of these things that it was you know, awful awful
sign of you know, similar to the Nazi symbol. And
(01:44:47):
you know, but this guy is is really authentic. And
again I mentioned the old Network interviewing you and you
you were talking about the fact that there's such a
disconnect between Washington again and and the rest of the world.
Speaker 17 (01:45:01):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:45:01):
I was talking to our good friend DNC member, a
good friend, Mail Poindexter, and I was telling him. I says,
you know, the Democrats better understand that their communicators are
outside the beltway. So the more you have people outside
the beltway. And he's a d NC guy, and he says,
one hundred percent, those are the people that can communicate.
(01:45:22):
Whether it's Mom Dannie, or whether there's Newsome or whether it's
Jessica Crockett, whatever, you need people outside to be able
to do that. And Planteur is the ultimate outside outsider,
a fisherman and a former a VET. It's to me
it fits right into what we've been talking about the
whole time. Talk to me about your experiences with him
(01:45:43):
and seeing him on the stump.
Speaker 8 (01:45:47):
Yeah, I mean, it's a guy who came out of nowhere.
He's from the next county over from me in Maine,
but no one had heard of him until he announced.
No one here. People knew him in his little small town.
People where I am knew his wife, because he's married
to a woman from the next town over for me.
But they didn't know him, but just exploded onto the scene,
(01:46:08):
both locally and nationally. And I had a feeling early
on that he was going to be a thing. I
don't know if he's gonna win, but I knew that,
you know, when I was first texted about talking to
a harbor master of Sullivan, it's a town of twelve hundred,
he's the harbor master. It's running for Senate, and I'm like, okay, sure,
you know that's nice, but sure, I'll get on the phone.
And then I was just blown away by how fully
(01:46:32):
formed his message was, how charismatic he was, and instantly
caught fire. Then Janet Mills, our governor, who had been
kind of waffling all summer, Will she run? Will she
not run? She was clearly the top choice of the
d SEC and the Democratic Establishment, if you will, They
really wanted her to run. She finally gets in the race,
(01:46:55):
it looks like she might not and two days later
this stuff comes out. You know, we don't know time
was it her, but the timing is, and certainly Graham
Platner and all of his supporters just take it for
granted that this stuff getting out was an attack, as
they see it, from the democratic establishment. Now there's real
(01:47:17):
stuff in here. We shouldn't, you know, discount it. But
he talks about these Reddit posts. He was essentially, you know,
posting in a way, in a word that's not appropriate
to say on radio, but as a common term on
the Internet when you just throw stuff out there to
kind of provoke people. He had just gotten back from
his four combat tours and the tattoo, he said he
(01:47:41):
didn't He got it eighteen years ago with his marine
with a bunch of other marines. They had lost a
buddy and they got it kind of in remembrance. And
you know, it's a thing marines do. They love skulls
and snakes and scary looking things. They had no idea.
He says that it was a tattoo that was used
by the SF And I think people here get it
(01:48:02):
to get him. They believe him because they feel like
they know him, because even if they don't know him personally,
they know people like him. He looks like a lot
of people around here. He talks like a lot of
people around here. He's tapped into the issues that are
kind of nonpartisan for a lot of people around here.
So over the past couple of weeks, as I've been
(01:48:23):
reading all the national discourse out of DC, his campaign
is over. It's toast. How could Democrats get themselves into
such a mess. But then I'm driving to work every
day and I'm passing a dozen Grand Platinner signs, and
I'm going to the grocery store and I talk to
somebody who's like, I can't believe they're doing this about
grand Platner. And then I go to his event and
(01:48:43):
there's seven as just saying, seven hundred people there in
a town of I think twenty one hundred. He had
eighteen hundred people in Portland yesterday. This is the huge
disconnect and people here, for the most part of the Democrats,
let's say, you know, it's not everybody, but Democrats who
like him are willing to give him a past. I've
found a small handful of voters, and I've tried to
(01:49:05):
find people. I said on TV that I couldn't find anyone.
I got a text message like a few hours after
I got off TV. I found one, and then I
found a couple of the one. But yeah, and then
I've and then I've got, I got secondhand. I got
some people sent me text message, you know, screenshots of
text messages of their friends telling them that they were
(01:49:27):
leaving him. But it's it's not a flood, is the point.
You know, It's it's a it's a trickle. And the
signs are still up. So I'm not saying he's out
of the woods here. I think, if you know, another
shoe drops, we could see something different. But he is
connecting with something that is really being missed, I think.
And I was pleased to see two national reports out today,
(01:49:48):
one Boston Globe, the other NBC News, my former colleague,
and then on Friday once for the New York Times.
Basically all three of them said the same thing, that
these are reporters who came to Maine. They said, you know,
I can and I thought his campaign was done. I
came to Maine, I talked to people, and I was wrong.
He is still alive and still resilient.
Speaker 7 (01:50:09):
Talking with Alex Eiswald, he is, of course the former
MSNBC producer reporter, a good friend of the program.
Speaker 17 (01:50:16):
We've been talking to him for years.
Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
He is now a fabulous deputy editor The Mid Coast
Villager there in the Camden, Maine area, and of course
has been attending some of these of Graham Plantner, the
candidate for US Senate, and the polls he's probably about
a week or two old, had him about fourteen points
ahead of Collins, while the governor, Miss Mills, was not
(01:50:39):
a bad candidate, but doesn't have the dynamism, doesn't have
the connection I think that mister Planter has with many
of those fellow manors. You know, Planter had like a
fourteen point lead, I believe Alex and it was nip
and tuck one point for and that obviously within the
margin of era for Mills against Collins. They kind of
know each other's kind of the same, of the same,
(01:51:01):
you know, it's it's a cousin and a sister.
Speaker 17 (01:51:04):
You know, there there isn't much difference.
Speaker 7 (01:51:06):
Even though Mills is a you know, is a Democrat
and will will obviously fight against Trump.
Speaker 17 (01:51:11):
They had their.
Speaker 7 (01:51:12):
Own little uh to do back when when the Democratic
governors were there in the White House. But it's you know,
if you really want massive change, you know the change
that you know, our friend Mandani has had in New
York City, if you want change that you know, again,
brings people together and understands that you know, people coming together,
(01:51:39):
you know, fifty by the hundreds in small towns that
have two thousand people in them. Then that's that's the
that's what you're going to get, and we'll see what happens.
But I think I think one other thing too, you know,
the every time you have an election, right the whole
world kind of stops. You know, Bernie and AOC are
probably going, you know, back and forth to New York
(01:52:00):
City every weekend to help amm Dannie. Well that once
that election happens tomorrow, then I think that people like
Bernie and AOC and some of their folks that have
worked in the campaigns in Bernie in sixteen and twenty,
they're going to be released, you know, from their campaigns
(01:52:21):
and maybe some of them can kind of come in
and assist the locals and assist Planter.
Speaker 17 (01:52:27):
That's my hope, because.
Speaker 7 (01:52:28):
You know, if he needs, you know, folks from the
outside desert of of you know, to connect with you know,
the media and with other members of the US Senate.
I think that Bernie and AOC have proved time and
time again that you know, they can connect with moderate Democrats.
We saw this in the American Rescue Plan in twenty
(01:52:49):
twenty one when he and Biden, you know, locked arms
and they he was at Biden was at sixty percent.
So it's there, and maybe the timing might be just
right for mister Plant through your thoughts on that.
Speaker 8 (01:53:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's timing is a great Plant because
while the excuse me, the New York City election is tomorrow.
This despite all of the attention that the main Democratic
city primary are gotten, the election is until June ninth,
So we have a lot of game to play here,
so to speak. Uh, And I think, you know, we'll
see a number of big names, I'm sure coming in.
(01:53:25):
And I think that the support, the kind of air cover,
if you will, from people like Bernie Sanders for Grand
Platner has helped reassure those people who like him, who
want to support him but are worried that he's no
longer viable or that he, you know, is a Nazi.
I don't think he's a Nazi for the record, but
(01:53:47):
agree with you Bernie Sanders, Yeah, I don't think Bernie.
Speaker 17 (01:53:51):
And Jewish by the way, people know that is going
to be hanging around with them.
Speaker 8 (01:53:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's half of the thing
but Platner gets hit for is that he his family
is is you know, he has some wealthy members of
his family, which is the common thing here in Maine
that you know, the first generation comes here to summer,
the second generation settled, likes it so much they settled down,
and the third generation they're artists or farmers or oystermen
(01:54:18):
or you know. This is a this is a common
kind of main thing. Half of his family is Jewish.
I talked to his best friend, who uh who Planner
went to his barmitsa and we it doesn't really matter
because we have fifteen years of his political id in
all those Reddit posts, some of which are ugly, but
there's not a hint of right wing nationalists, anti semic
(01:54:40):
did none of that. There's there's you know, there's there's
like rude comments about gay people, but there's nothing that
would hint about anything vaguely Nazi. But but the.
Speaker 39 (01:54:52):
The main thing though that that I think it's been missed,
is that to your point, on those polls, Mills should
be dominating this raid exactly.
Speaker 8 (01:55:03):
She's the governor, she's been elected twice. Once she got in,
that should have been it you know, he should have
been kind of pushed aside, and the fact that she
was behind him in those polls and that she hasn't
that he has been able to take up so much oxygen,
I think speaks to her weakness as a candidate. She's
seventy seven. She'd be the oldest freshman senator in history.
(01:55:26):
Undercuts one of Susan Collins's big weaknesses, which is her
own age. But she's younger, she's seventy four, So I
will count a conversation I had literally today, I walked
into a store and somebody said, hey, I saw you
on Instagram, you know, the post good job. This is
an older woman herself, a woman in her seventy and
she's like, I like Janet Mills. I think she's done
(01:55:47):
a good job as governor. But I want fresh leadership.
And I don't think people understand how frustrated and betrayed
we feel by the Democratic Party after twenty twenty four,
the fiasco that was Joe Biden insting you had to
stay in the race Kamala Harris, and then losing to Trump.
Speaker 17 (01:56:06):
There is a lot of frustration.
Speaker 7 (01:56:09):
You know, again, Harris was handed an s sandwich.
Speaker 17 (01:56:13):
If you might you know Biden.
Speaker 7 (01:56:15):
I've been I was calling for Biden to a want
of criticism for this, but that he should have left
in twenty twenty three. You know, you had a couple
of emergencies in both Ukraine and eventually Israel, and he
could have been all in on that. He could have said, look,
I'm gonna I'm gonna leave this to the Democratic primary.
You know, a whole slew of people could have run,
and probably Harris would have won because she was the
(01:56:39):
the VP, and Biden would have been leaving on a
high as opposed to this whole lingering thing and the
Hawfel debate where you know, didn't know where he was
and and that whole thing, and it just it put everything,
you know, on a track that was awful. And then
you have a good communicator in Trump, you know, I mean.
Speaker 17 (01:56:58):
As a con man.
Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
You know, he's you know, convicted thirty four times, the
whole thing, but he's a great communicator. And if you
don't communicate and you're always on the defensive, as Harris was,
particularly in the final months, you know, you're not going
to be able to pull it off.
Speaker 17 (01:57:15):
So I think that's exactly why, you.
Speaker 8 (01:57:18):
Know, and it wasn't the presidency. They lost the House
and the Senate too. You know, they lost races that
they should not have lost. They lost ground with Hispanics
and African Americans and Asian Americans, people who were kind
of taken for granted as Democrats, and I feel like
as a political party, not you have one job which
(01:57:39):
has nothing to do with policy or ideology. You have
one job, which is to win elections, and then you
figure out all the rest of those policy things. But
it's to win elections. And when a party failed to
win elections, they always get a rebellion in their base,
as they should frankly, because you failed at your one job.
This is what happened to Republicans after two thousand and
(01:58:01):
eight with the Key Party. You know, Obama win huge
majorities in the House and Senate and there's a total
outright rebellion. And we're having, I think a moment like
that in the Democratic.
Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
Party, no doubt, Alex sites Wall. There's been our guest
here on the Jeff Santio Show. Hopefully next time we
can get the video go and get a chance to
see you live from Maine.
Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Man.
Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
That's just fantastic to say that actually out loud. You know,
I must tell you. I think that what you're going
to be seeing tomorrow night in both the coast in
California and New York City are two fantastic communicators from
the outside.
Speaker 17 (01:58:42):
Who I have understood.
Speaker 7 (01:58:44):
And you know, if my opinion, if Gavin Newsom was
a nominee, they would have won because you had somebody
who could communicate in a Mandani like person. Of course
he can't run because he's born in Uganda, but for president,
but that's what the Democrats need. And if they can
do that this time around and in twenty six, they'll
be better off. I got thirty seconds, Alex. Your final thoughts, my.
Speaker 8 (01:59:05):
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Speaker 7 (01:59:22):
Thank you, Alex. Thank you, my friend. A pleasure to
talk to you, and we'll look forward to having you
and again all the best. Keep warm in Maine the
winter time. Thanks Alex. We'll be right back, folks. It's
the Jeff Santo show back in the Flash.
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Speaker 7 (02:06:58):
It is Albert three of the Jeff Panto Show, and
welcome to it, folks, and we get some breaking news
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Speaker 17 (02:07:16):
We have a big.
Speaker 7 (02:07:19):
News information to tell you about tomorrow night. So at
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of course listen on the great website, the Jeffsantoshow dot com.
But if you are in California, whether you are along
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that not only in San Francisco. It is a blow torch.
Speaker 17 (02:08:08):
And a half.
Speaker 7 (02:08:09):
At one point it could reach northwestern part of Canada,
but I can tell you it goes east to Reno, Nevada,
south to Santa Barbara, covers Sacramento, San Jose, Silicon Valley,
et cetera, and again probably north of the Oregon border.
It's a great opportunity to talk to our friends at
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KSFO and KBC. We thank Larry in the gang at
the network. And it's really an important time for people
to understand not only the importance of Prop fifty, but
the importance of issues that are facing America today. As
(02:08:50):
you have heard, I have spoken with Alex sites Wall,
the former MSNBC reporter who has gone to be a
caregiver and help his mom.
Speaker 17 (02:09:00):
You know, he is.
Speaker 7 (02:09:02):
Working at a small newspaper. You know, we're doing work here.
You know, we have to get back to our roots
here on AM radio, you know, all across this country,
and the opportunity to be on live in California is critical.
It's critical to get a different perspective in the great
(02:09:24):
state that what the fourth fifth largest economy in the
whole world. So we're excited about this and we'll be
having some big name guests. We're trying to get governors
and members of Congress and maybe a Senator or two
if we can. It's going to be a tight hour,
but we're trying also to be talking to political consulting
(02:09:46):
Gary South, who was the senior advisor to Gray Davis
back in the nineties, and early two thousands, amongst many others.
So stay tuned again tomorrow Night Live. You can give
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Speaker 17 (02:10:10):
We hope to hear.
Speaker 7 (02:10:11):
From you and look forward to doing it. We're gonna
do it again the following Tuesday on the eleventh. Again
we thank Larry and the team at Cumulus and we.
Speaker 17 (02:10:21):
Look forward to a long relationship with them.
Speaker 7 (02:10:24):
All Right, with that, let's go to the great Washington,
d C. Where somebody is there fighting for us every
day who knows about California because he grew up in LA.
He is, of course a happy man today with the
Dodgers winning the World Series. He is Harrow Myerson, and
(02:10:45):
he joins us via video. Look at that smile. Oh yeah,
And Mookie Betts eat your heart out. And of course
Harrow Myerson joins us via video from Washington, d C,
the headquarters of the American Prospect. Mister Myerson, Well, congratulations
number one, and it's going to be great to be
(02:11:05):
on some big sticks in your former home state.
Speaker 43 (02:11:10):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean, in describing the World Series,
I told people I was genetically predisposed to the Dodgers,
and I was politically predisposed to the Blue Jays after all.
Speaker 22 (02:11:22):
The crap that Anada.
Speaker 43 (02:11:26):
But you know, my genes overrode my political sense was
I was rooting for the Dodgers. I actually am old
enough and enough of an LA person to have seen
one of the victories that Sandy Kofax pitched in the.
Speaker 22 (02:11:43):
Nineteen sixty five World Series.
Speaker 43 (02:11:46):
And I would also say that the seventh game of
this World Series, that was played on Saturday night, you know,
was the only competition for most exciting baseball game where
I didn't ever rooting interest was the sixth game of
the nineteen seventy five series.
Speaker 17 (02:12:05):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (02:12:06):
I mean, as you, yes, one will always be number
one in my heart.
Speaker 43 (02:12:09):
But the Cincinnati Big Red machine against the Red Sox,
and the Red Sox won. And I think the twelfth
inning that run game with Carlton Fisks, that's right home run.
And you saw similar gestures this Saturday night from Will Smith.
(02:12:30):
It wasn't sure his home run which gave the Dodgers
finally the lead. Nothing's going to make it so, but
those I think remained, from my viewpoint, the two most
exciting games that baseball has seen.
Speaker 8 (02:12:45):
No.
Speaker 7 (02:12:46):
I couldn't. I couldn't. I couldn't disagree. It was on
your edge of everything. I mean, to have a shortstop
who hit what twoh one this year or those to
go and Rojas to be able to do that in
the ninth of the game in which the last two outs, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 17 (02:13:09):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (02:13:09):
And then they Dave Roberts, you know, a good friend
of ours, Uh, Jerry Austin and I were talking the
other night about the fact that you had a situation
where Dave Roberts, who you know, always got criticized, you know,
for just being the tool of the GM and so forth.
And that's to me much malarkey, because they, you know,
the folks that at the Freedman's of the world and
(02:13:31):
so forth analytic uh uh no, nerds. You know, it
was actually a gut feeling that if you put paj
in the center fielder he could make a catch, and
did he make a catch?
Speaker 43 (02:13:44):
You know again, and letting Rojas go up to h
to play. I should add that one often overlooked advantage
that Dave Roberts brings to his job is. He was
born at a US military base in Okinawa. His father
(02:14:05):
was in I think a marine but and his mother
was a Japanese native of Okinawa. And he can speak
a kind of basic Japanese, which, given you know, the
presence of Shohei Otani and the reliever Roku Sasaki and
(02:14:25):
the now incredible Yoshinobi Yamamoto, is a real asset. So
in case there was there, surely was a time when
most Americans thought among the job qualifications for a big
league baseball manager, speaking Japanese was not one of them.
(02:14:46):
I think Dave Roberts has demonstrated that.
Speaker 22 (02:14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 43 (02:14:49):
Well, and you know, sometimes the best players on the
planet come from Japan, and it's a good it's it
definitely helps to be able to speak with them.
Speaker 17 (02:14:58):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:14:59):
And you know, look, they've been able to corner the
market on on fantastic you know Japanese players, Jakamoto of course, Uh,
Sho tiny and uh you know many others, and and
you know, look, uh, you know they spend the money.
You know, I think it's ridiculous how much money they're
(02:15:20):
being paid. But that's that's another that's another thing for
another day.
Speaker 43 (02:15:24):
So we're talking about billionaires. I should point out that
the owner of the Dodgers, Mark Walter, who comes from
Google im Partners, they bought the Lakers about four days ago,
so he have money to burn.
Speaker 17 (02:15:38):
Yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:15:42):
Magic Johnson is one happy guy because he's working for
both teams.
Speaker 17 (02:15:46):
But anyways, he's.
Speaker 7 (02:15:48):
Not doing too badly himself with his movie theaters and
all that stuff.
Speaker 17 (02:15:51):
So we go from celebrating in l A.
Speaker 7 (02:15:55):
I guess they had a little bit of a parade
today at Dodger Stadium and and well, yeah, nothing is
small in l A.
Speaker 17 (02:16:02):
Right.
Speaker 7 (02:16:03):
But the thing is is that you could be having,
at least from the Democratic perspective, a big celebration come
tomorrow night. You know, it should be relatively early from
what we see with Prop fifty. And I want to
I want to get into you know, the again. We
were talking with Alex sites wallflm me of MSNBC now
(02:16:27):
up in Maine at the Mid Coast Villager there and
around Camden, Maine, and you know, was talking about Planter
and in the in the state there. Uh, and we've
been you know, we've been talking. We started today our
first day in New York, New Jersey on AM fifteen
hundred w g h T. And you know what is
(02:16:50):
old is new again? You know AM radio, newspapers. You
know the feel of a newspaper. It's something that you
and I grew up with holding the Yeah, yes, exactly.
Well I think it's starting out. You know, it's probably
you know, it's got a long way to go before
you you can get back to all the news that's
fit to print.
Speaker 12 (02:17:08):
Right.
Speaker 7 (02:17:09):
But the interesting part in this, I don't know if
you can see it, but it's Seinfeld and all in
the family. You know best network TVs. You know, one
from the seventies, one from the nineties, not twenty first century.
So here you goo what as old is new again?
That gives us hope, as you know, as understanding of
(02:17:29):
the history of our nation and our culture. But anyways,
I think getting back to what is happening in California
is again a big issue.
Speaker 17 (02:17:40):
For the rest of the country. Your thoughts on Prop fifty.
Speaker 43 (02:17:42):
Well, it is because really we don't have an effective,
really effective way to stop the trump pisation of civilization
as we know it until the Democrats can at least
get one House of Congress, that is, you know, the
(02:18:03):
one real break that can be exercised against Trump, and
so control of the House, which Trump is trying to
maintain through redistricting, initially in Texas and now and more
and more Republican states is a crucial issue. And the
(02:18:25):
campaign that Gavin Newsom has waged on behalf of Prop
fifty in California, which would be California's redistricting, is an
answer to the one in Texas, five seats for five seats.
He succeeded in making people understand that that you need
(02:18:47):
the Democrats need a level playing field to retake the House,
and this levels you know, at least what Texas has done,
and you know, see what other what a the states
can do. Here where I am in d C. Just
across the Potomac, Democrats in Virginia are now embarking on
(02:19:08):
this project. They have to They have their statewide election
in Virginia tomorrow and they have to maintain control, which
they currently have of both houses of the legislature and
when the governor's office, which they're you know pretty sure
they're going to do. The Democratic nominee for governor, Abigail Spanberger,
(02:19:29):
has been leading in all the polls there, but in
the low double digits, and she's she's certainly going to
win tomorrow. And so you know, what Gavin Newsom started
on the Democratic side of the ledger has now become
something that expands to other states too, which it has
to to counter the Republican redistricting that now goes beyond
(02:19:53):
Texas and includes North Carolina in Ohio, and we'll see
what else. And Missouri, I should add.
Speaker 7 (02:20:00):
Right, no, no, And I think it's opening the doors.
I heard it the other day in Maryland that they
may be thinking of something. And of course Governor Moore is,
you know, considered a national figure, maybe a v VP figure.
Speaker 17 (02:20:16):
So to me, it's it's all there.
Speaker 7 (02:20:19):
And I gotta give, you know, again, tremendous credit to
Gavin Newsom, who, as you know, I was a fan
of him getting in in twenty twenty four before everything,
you know, sort of went off the rails, you know,
literally and figuratively seemingly. And I think, you know, he's
well positioned, although not a lock, and I haven't endorsed
(02:20:41):
him yet, but maybe soon, you know, for twenty twenty eight,
we get a long way to go. Of course, anything
had happened three six months. I want to get to
your thoughts on mom, Donnie. You know a lot of arrows,
but the guy, it keeps on going. I mean this
whole latest video of him on the bus you know
(02:21:01):
that goes two miles an hour, and he's talking to
the woman who's like, you know, this urine smelling here,
I'm sick and tired of being here.
Speaker 17 (02:21:09):
You know, can you do anything?
Speaker 7 (02:21:11):
You know, candidate a mayor to be and you know,
and he's talking to her as if like he was
going the same way she was and getting off at
the stop after her or before. And I love it,
and I think that that is politics one oh one.
And if you can do that, you know, the Democrats
should take a lesson from that. I know Andrew Cuomo
(02:21:33):
always trying to copy it and put Ai involved and
it's just a mess. But you know, he's authentic. It's
a real thing talking about well he.
Speaker 43 (02:21:42):
Is, and that's that's essential to his appeal. I mean, honestly,
the kind of politics that Mandami has, at least as
regards the issues he's run on economics, affordability, rent of housing,
cost of food, cost of childcare, and so on. Those
(02:22:06):
are issues that are cross cutting. But he certainly presents
it better than other Democrats who you know, share his positions.
I mean, the fact is, look, most big cities, given
the political composition of big cities, most big cities are
going to have mayors that, though they're not necessarily members
(02:22:31):
of the Democratic Socialists of America, are certainly social Democrats themselves.
That describes Karen Bass and Los Angeles. It describes Brandon
Johnson in Chicago. The difference isn't that he's a member
of DSA.
Speaker 22 (02:22:44):
And they're not.
Speaker 43 (02:22:45):
The difference is he's simply a much better poll than
they are. That's not an ideological difference so much as
it is a character logical difference.
Speaker 22 (02:22:56):
But he was born you know.
Speaker 43 (02:22:57):
Look, I mean, every now and then, as in as
in certain sports, you encounter a.
Speaker 22 (02:23:02):
Natural, and he is that he is unnatural.
Speaker 43 (02:23:07):
You also have to be very well schooled because he's
got to address lots of things that you have to
be schooled about. But if I can raise one question
that's driving me quite crazy about the right wing commentary
about this race, there's all his focus on will he
drives some millionaires out of New York? Well, I want
(02:23:30):
to look two things. I want to look at two things. First,
of all millionaires. What he has proposed to fund affordable
childcare is hiking the tax on individual income over one
million dollars by two percent. So specifically, if you were
to make as an individual one million, one hundred thousand
(02:23:52):
dollars in taxes, it would raise only the tax on
that last one hundred thousand dollars from eleven percent to
thirteen percent. Somehow, I do not think that is the
kind of issue that drives millionaires out of New York. However,
(02:24:13):
I do think that the unaffordability of housing and the
unaffordability of childcare drives thousands of families out of New
York because they can't afford to live in New York.
Somehow that the fact that, you know, the two percent
(02:24:34):
hike on millionaires is viewed as a threat to the
city's viability, but the flight of parents with children who
can't afford adequate housing, who can afford childcare to cheaper
areas is not regarded as a threat to the city.
Speaker 22 (02:24:56):
You know, give me a break. That just that that
that's no, it's it's a.
Speaker 7 (02:25:01):
Complete bogus bs. We're talking with Harold Myerson here on
the Jeff Santo Show. Editor at large American prospect. We'll
open up the phones in a minute. Here at again
A three three five four five five three three three
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I just tell you, I look at you know, all
the excuses about this. The fact is when I live
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there prior to nine to eleven and after nine to
eleven in New York City, you know, you know, and
it was back then it was sixteen hundred for a
one bedroom probably now thirty six hundred or four thousand
for just that same place, and there was not anything
to rave about, believe me. The point of it, though,
is that you know, people live in New York because
(02:26:05):
you know, it's New York City. It's exciting, it's the
number one city in the country. They don't live there
for taxes. You know, if the millionaire is gonna where's
he gonna move Nebraska, Where's she gonna move Idaho? I
mean come on now, really, I mean, it's all a
bunch of bs. And this is done all by you know,
right wing thing tanks that basically just want to you know,
(02:26:25):
make more money for their one percent donors who give
them money to keep the keep the lights on.
Speaker 17 (02:26:30):
It's all but this is what we got to deal with.
Speaker 7 (02:26:33):
And of course, when you have very few outlets like
like this and again today's our first day on w
g HT in New York, New Jersey, you know, but
there are very few outlets to carry shows like mine
that obviously you know, have great journalists on like yourself.
Speaker 17 (02:26:51):
And that's that's what you have to face.
Speaker 7 (02:26:53):
So you have to do what everything and if you
have to get on the bus with mom Donnie and
you know, talk to people that way, you got to
do it.
Speaker 22 (02:27:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 43 (02:27:01):
Well, like I said, I mean, the guy is is
really just an incredibly adept politician, uh and he and
he understands how to tell a story, He understands how
to take all this stuff from the realm of theory
and bring it down to people's everyday experiences and which
(02:27:21):
includes riding buses that take forever and uh, you know
Greek of urine.
Speaker 22 (02:27:26):
So uh he he gets it.
Speaker 43 (02:27:29):
Uh in a way in which uh, you know, uh,
and Andrew Cuomo can't ever aspire even to to do.
It's not it's not his it's not Cuomo's life. That
that that's not you know, that's not the kind of
you know, he hasn't been elected to the earlier in
(02:27:52):
his life because he had a certain common touch.
Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
Uh and.
Speaker 22 (02:27:57):
Uh and that's clear, that's clear.
Speaker 7 (02:27:59):
Yeah, I mean, you know, this is the Democratic icon,
Mario Cuomo. Why I was hoping it would run in
nineteen ninety two and he was under on the runway.
Speaker 17 (02:28:07):
I was Walling Hampshire.
Speaker 7 (02:28:08):
You know, the whole thing, right, This guy is about
as far away from his father, you know, I mean,
and he had the audacity to say, well, the Democratic
Party where my grandfather or my father you know, was
an icon.
Speaker 17 (02:28:21):
You know, I'm going to turn my back on them.
And it was independent.
Speaker 7 (02:28:24):
So I'm like, what the heck would any Democrat self,
you know, worth Democrat go for the Independent when you
have a spectacular candidate Mandani and the fact that Schumer
hasn't done anything yet shows how how to touch it.
Speaker 17 (02:28:37):
He is as well. I just got about him in
his years good.
Speaker 43 (02:28:41):
A lot of that concerns who their donors are, and
that that you know, oh yeah, that makes a huge difference.
I mean, Mandami has raised the money he's raised through
online contributions in small amounts. AOC has done that so
successfully that she's raises more money than anyone in Congress.
Republican Speaker Mike Johnson runs a distant second to AOC.
(02:29:06):
But when you get to the level of Cuomo, and
and you know the Democrats on the outskirts of New
York who have not endorsed Mandamie and have endorsed Cuomo,
like Tom Swazi and Long Island and Josh Gottheimer in
northern New Jersey, their their funding base is entirely Wall
(02:29:26):
Street types. It's big corporations, you know. I mean, so
they are answerable to a very different set of donors
than you know, the successful left wing candidates like Bernie.
Speaker 17 (02:29:42):
AOC agree, Harold, I got to run, my friend, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (02:29:46):
Always great to have Harold Myerson with a smile on
his face like Mandanni like the Dodgers winning Thanks Man.
Speaker 17 (02:29:53):
We will talk next week. All the best great talk
to you, then, Jeff talk to you. Then we'll right back.
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Speaker 7 (02:33:40):
From the South coast here in the Commonwealth the Massachusetts,
just outside the great city of Boston. So we go
well three thousand miles away to our good friend in
the city of Angels as we just talked to Harold
Myerson one time Dodger fan. We talked to a team
(02:34:01):
that where's red? The guy that is actually on the
phone as a fan of the team that wears red,
although sometimes the powder Blues were a great uniform too.
About the Saint Louis Cardinals, I'm talking about, of course,
our good friend Alan Minsky, executive director of Progressive Democrats
of America, who I know was watching like a lot
of US Game seven of the World Series. In my opinion,
(02:34:25):
still it's number two to the Red Sox and Reds
of seventy five.
Speaker 17 (02:34:31):
But you know, I have a predice. Carl Frisk is
behind me here.
Speaker 7 (02:34:36):
I got a bubblehead of actually Fisk, and I think
the hand is broken. I'll try to get it a
little bit later to the proof. But I guess you
were up. Well it was early in California, you know,
but past midnight here in the East Coast. Well, back
to back, first time since the Yankees in the nineties,
(02:34:57):
which I guess is a good thing at the very least,
the Yankees don't take this all by themselves, so that's
a good thing.
Speaker 17 (02:35:03):
From this Red Sox fan, Yeah, I presume you're.
Speaker 7 (02:35:06):
Enjoying the people in LA celebrating baseball, which is a
good thing since we're both big fans.
Speaker 26 (02:35:14):
Well, you know, it's hard being out here to not
get caught up in the narrative the team. You know,
people might be aware that this is not an NFL town.
This is a Major League Baseball town, and a LA
Lakers town, and even USC football, which used to be huge,
of course, is nowhere nearest because it was say twenty
years ago, right, and I would say more than anything else,
it's a Dodgers town. And you know, one of the
peculiarities of Major League Baseball, as you fit it into
(02:35:37):
the landscape of American sports, is the way in which
outside of the major metropolitanians in particular you know Boston,
but in particular New York, Chicago and LA, these are
really baseball towns. You know, the fact that it's daily drama.
You know in New York on the tabloids. You know
the way the Cubs just are followed religiously, and the
(02:35:59):
White Sox when you're out of and in LA, it's
very much like that with the Dodgers, and the association
of the of the metropolinaria with this team, particularly this team,
is a reflection of the diversity of Los Angeles and
therefore as a signifier, I'm glad of opposition, right great,
because well, you know, I.
Speaker 7 (02:36:16):
Mean he didn't want either to win because the Canadians
were given him a middle finger, which I really wanted
to see Toronto win for that reason.
Speaker 17 (02:36:23):
Loan number two. Of course, the Dodgers have you know,
a slew.
Speaker 7 (02:36:27):
Of of minorities, whether you were talking about Asian and
Otani and Yamamoto, an amazing UH series, and of course
African Americans like Mookie Betts. You know, a slew of
of Dominican players, Hernandez uh and Kiki who, Hernandez who,
Puerto Rican back run of course close with Alex Korra,
(02:36:49):
you know, actually spoke got about the whole thing when
Trump had the Ice officials wanted to go into Dodgers.
Speaker 17 (02:36:54):
Statement, they wouldn't let them all.
Speaker 7 (02:36:56):
That and and of course Trump Trump didn't want to
root for either one of them. You don't any part
of them. You want Toronto and all of Canada.
Speaker 26 (02:37:03):
You know, you know outside if you watch you had
to watch the you had to watch the pregame show
when they were playing in Canada, because about five minutes
before the regular broadcast began, they would show the canadi
the singing the Canadian national anthem, and there was no
doubt what was going on with fifty people fully voice yeah,
you know, basically given a middle finger or whatever they
(02:37:26):
do in Canada most articularly way possible to the people
south of Lake Ontario and trump because it was it's spectacular.
But hey man, you know, just to clarify, you know,
I'm a Cardinal fan, and uh you know, so I
route quite strongly against the Red Sox and the Dodgers
these days in terms of compiling World Series titles were
still number two with eleven. Only teams been double digits
(02:37:47):
others than the Yankees, and now the Dodgers in the
Red Sox have nine, and so they won a lot
of World series. Now in the twenty first century in
concerts of the Cardinals, the Cardinals did pick up two.
But right now, of course, it seems like the Dodgers
are boys to keep collecting titles and the rest many
of these days, and the Cardinals m and you know
(02:38:07):
there even was this a poetic justice to having shirts
will be the starting pitcher for Torontic because of people
don't know he's a Saint Louis, and so I found
myself really pulling for them. But you know, I got
affection for some of the doctor plays, and it was
great to see my neighborhood this happy. It was astonishing
to see the response.
Speaker 17 (02:38:23):
It's a great thing.
Speaker 26 (02:38:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:38:25):
Well, as I said to our audience earlier, we're very
excited Alan uh to be on tomorrow night throughout the
entire state of California on both KBC and KSFO together
at seven o'clock live. We're going to try to see
if we can sneak in there. If you're available, I
think it's really important for the nation to understand, you know,
(02:38:49):
what Gavin and Newsom and Democrats are at large are
doing to help the rest of the party, because when
you think about what Trump is doing, uh, and you know,
if you saw him on sixty minutes last night, I
had a hard time just keeping the channel on.
Speaker 17 (02:39:06):
These are such you know, lies and more bs.
Speaker 7 (02:39:10):
But the the point is is that I think, you know,
how California has communicated this message, how Newsome has to
me is incredibly important. And when you're what you're seeing,
you know, and the pushback against Mom Doney. We're just
talking to Harrol Myerson about this. I mean, when's the
last time you've seen a candidate for any position, mayor
(02:39:33):
city council, you know, governor, congressman, senator go on a
bus talk to somebody as if they were going on
on the same bus ride as the passenger he was interviewing.
To me, that's real and that communication skills. If we
(02:39:56):
had that in twenty four we wouldn't have Trump right now.
And I and I tell you, I think that to
me is the biggest, biggest piece of it. But what
Mandami is is going to be the story here going forward.
And we're very excited because today is our first day
in New York, New Jersey and wght AM fifteen hundred,
and it is so great to be in both New
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York and California to be able to understand that, you know,
maybe three thousand miles apart, but they're similar in viewpoints,
similar in ideas, and you know, along with our friends
at WCAP and Old Boston, you know, there are a
lot of people who can communicate a message, whether it's
in Mamdani's way of communicating or Gavin Newsom to the
(02:40:42):
rest of the country. And you know, you don't have
to be you know, from West Virginia or from you know,
Minnesota or Wisconsin or Michigan or Pennsylvania to be if
you're a good communicator and you can understand, you know,
talking to a passenger on a bus that's probably going
a mile an hour, two miles an hour and it
probably smells.
Speaker 17 (02:41:02):
A urine, you can do that too.
Speaker 7 (02:41:04):
And I just think that that you know, this idea
that you've got to get a Midwestern governor and you
got to do this way, and it's got to be
a white guy with a flannel shirt and a baseball cap.
You know, it's not really dealing with current scenarios. You
can wear a baseball cap as I'm doing now. But
you know, I'm also good at work code on so whatever,
(02:41:25):
I got my own fashion statements.
Speaker 17 (02:41:28):
Your thoughts about this.
Speaker 26 (02:41:30):
Well, you know there's a lot there. And I think
I think with Mam Donnister. In New York City politics
are distinctive. But when someone comes forward like Mandami and
he makes clear to anybody who pays attention at all
or just becomes aware of the phenomenon that he is
speaking to pocketbook issues and he is speaking so directly
and so sincerely. I'm so speaking as a real person
(02:41:53):
as you're you know, citing the instance.
Speaker 35 (02:41:54):
On the box.
Speaker 26 (02:41:55):
That's that's Mam Donnie all day long. You know, Yes,
And you know, obviously when he becomes mayor, he's gonna
have responsibilities and won't be on the campaign trail, but
I think he'll have I see him having that common touch.
I don't see him losing that anytime soon.
Speaker 14 (02:42:11):
And you know, that speaks to people everywhere, and I
think he is, you know, since Bernie. Obviously, there's been
some great progressive politicians, young progressive politicians soup become prominent,
but none of them better than him at really really
bringing everything back to the way that people live.
Speaker 26 (02:42:30):
And then he's able to seamlessly connect to other issues
around the attacks on democracy, obviously, foreign policy issues, they
sort of he's able to intertwine them that bring the
discussion back to affordability. In other words, democracy. We can
have democracy because the people want to live affordable lives.
They're attacking democracy because they don't want in their greed,
(02:42:53):
they don't want to have, you know, to have a
balanced economy where all of us can live comfortably. And
what is the rich to say, in the richest country
in the world. And I think that resonates everywhere because
I think people, of course are very appalled at the
attacks on our constitutional republic from the Trump administration. But
(02:43:13):
I think there who also are starting to clue and
they're really starting to catch on to the fact that
this guy doesn't care at all about our welfare, our
personal welfare, our economic welfare. There's been something of a ruse,
but it's going to take Democrats who can seamlessly in
a real voice. You know, they don't shy away from
the other issues. He's great at not turning off the
questions that he's asked, but bringing it back back to
(02:43:36):
the way people really live, and people are really struggling
to get by.
Speaker 17 (02:43:39):
Into society, no doubt.
Speaker 7 (02:43:42):
I mean, I use the Duncan donuts, you know, I
have it here as the prop But I've asked all
the candidates that we've had on. The most latest is
Jonathan Jackson, Jesse Jackson's son and Illinois congressman from Chicago.
You know, it went from seven dollars on September fifteenth
(02:44:02):
to fourteen ninety nine a week later and still has
not changed. This is Trump tariff. The Democrats should be
banging this over the head. Not literally, of course, it's
not going to hurt anybody anyways. It's a pound of coffee.
But the point is is that this is something that
you know, Democrats win on economic issues ninety nine percent
(02:44:22):
of the time. You stick to the economic issues and
everything else will follow. And again, when you're destroying democracy,
you know, the economy, you know, may seem like it's
it's not that important, but they all go hand in
hand because you know, you know it's you know, poor
people aren't going to get better off in dictatorship. I
can tell you that you know.
Speaker 17 (02:44:44):
It didn't work in the nineteen thirties. We all know
that history.
Speaker 7 (02:44:49):
Talk to me a little bit about how you see
the next few days.
Speaker 17 (02:44:54):
Alan.
Speaker 7 (02:44:55):
My view is that if Democrats come out of this
with victories, it's you know, it's close, but I think
Cheryl will win. In New Jersey where we're casting today too,
I think Spamberger wins close to ten points. I think
obviously the Prop fifty should be overwhelmingly favor on the
(02:45:17):
yes vote. I'm not sure about Pennsylvania the Supreme Court races.
They seem very close hasn't been that much attention. Of course,
I think a double digit win for Mandani. But well,
we're gonna we're gonna try to invite mister Martin or
some officials from the DNC. We have, you know, a
DNC member on every week with Mel Poindexter from Massachusetts,
(02:45:40):
and you know, he's understanding of how to communicate his
understanding of what needs to be done. But I think
that message has to be on economics and has to
be on saving the democracy. You put those two together,
you get a winning message for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 17 (02:45:54):
What say you?
Speaker 16 (02:45:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 26 (02:45:58):
I think I think a few things. The tomorrow one
is in California on your on your coverage, and I'm
not an expert on this. I would recommend trying to
find a guest. I think that opposition will pass, and
but my understanding is the Republicans will try to challenge
it in court. And so if you kind of a
(02:46:18):
get ye, I don't know that's the thing that they're
They're they're just pulling together resources to challenge in that way.
Speaker 17 (02:46:29):
That's all it is.
Speaker 26 (02:46:31):
Oh, yes, well, they pull their money from that and
they apparently are investing in court challenges to try to
slow it up just so it gets close enough to
the primary date that they can have it happen now.
But I don't think it will work, but they'll they'll
try to do that, and anybody can speak to that
is important. I think also what's important from tomorrow too,
even though we're talking about you know, basically more or
(02:46:55):
less progressive states. You have obviously Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Then
we're talking about New New Jersey, California, and of course
Virginia has been something of a swing state. But are
are there is there any evidence of Republican uh, you know,
efforts to disrupt the vote, including possibly of course, the
presence of you know, armed federal officials in minority communities.
(02:47:20):
Is that going to be an evidence. Everybody's anticipating that
it will be of course by twenty six, seroined by
the general election in twenty.
Speaker 12 (02:47:27):
Six, but.
Speaker 26 (02:47:29):
It could possibly pop up tomorrow. I think I think,
you know, I think the New Jersey election is important.
I do think that one everybody in New Jersey should
get out and vote. Of course, don't don't trust that
that is a give gimme. But if that is also one,
then the question is, is you know how this is
framed what kind of message comes out of you know,
the Trump world, because it looks like this could be
(02:47:51):
a pretty good day for people who want to see
this as a you know, a slapped down for Trump.
But of course the Hill Hill in his inner circle
will blab about unfair elections and blue states and all
that kind of stuff. And that's for Mom Donnie. You know,
it's hugely historic. Of course, it's important to you know,
understand uh, maybe the difficulties that he'll face trying to
(02:48:12):
get his agenda through, especially up in all of them.
And also but again when you have Mom Donnie too,
it's those even further than that, which is the opportunity
to articulate a vision for in America which is more equitable,
more economically fair, where we have an expanding middle class,
not a contracting middle class, and the middle class that's
empowered both politically and and very important politically there to
(02:48:34):
be able to consolidate the status that our politics, like
the Great Year after World War two, are about the
interests of the average working household, and I think Mom
Donnie's campaign has been all about that. And again to
be able to show a successful way that you know,
this isn't coming out of the you know, the nineteen
twenties crisis of the Great Depression and what Roosevelt build up.
(02:48:56):
Then we're coming out of four decades of media liberalism.
How the kind of policies which you know, basically the
state saying that private market does not adequately respond to
these issues. We need to have politics and government, you know,
constrain the market so that we can have an expanding
and prosperous middle class for the best society we can
(02:49:17):
have here. And you know, what is that vision? How
well is that being put forward? And I think I
think how much is it catching people's ears? And it's
totality because I think Mom Donnie is a fantastic you know,
a person to articulate that message, not just for the
people in New York City, but in joining with Bernie
and progressives around the country, organizations like PDA to get
(02:49:38):
that and shows like the Jeff Scanto Show to get
it out to the people that these are these are
great politics.
Speaker 17 (02:49:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:49:45):
No, indeed, Look, I think you know, if they do
the Republicans try this court challenge and so forth, I
think in the California courts anyways, and maybe they'll go elsewhere.
But I think it's going to be laughable because you know,
if I'm not mistaken, the Republicans put a lot of
(02:50:06):
money into Prop.
Speaker 17 (02:50:08):
Eighty seven racist situation.
Speaker 7 (02:50:11):
Back in the nineties under Pete Wilson. Nobody called that unconstitutional.
You know, you can go and go back to Prop. Thirteen.
I mean, California is you know, king of of prop
uh position propositions, and so to me, you know, to
do what they're trying to do is you know, it's
a needle in a haystack scenario.
Speaker 17 (02:50:31):
So I don't see it. I mean, I don't care.
Speaker 7 (02:50:33):
I mean, I know when you're going to have a
Supreme Court that could just you know, basically rubber stamp
the president if it goes that far, you know, that
would obviously be concerning. But I just I just don't
see it. But it's great to know, and thank you
for pointing that out. I want to get into something
that I think is it is important in terms of
(02:50:55):
how Democrats, you know, position them else against the one percent.
This is obviously something that is again on the Mam
Donnie campaign, you know, with the taxes.
Speaker 17 (02:51:07):
I think this is an issue that is again win win.
I mean, who do you know that loves billionaires?
Speaker 7 (02:51:14):
You know, whether it's Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or
any of these folks. You know, I mean, there isn't it.
So why why hold back? I understand because a lot
of the members of Congress and so forth get a
lot of money from these guys.
Speaker 17 (02:51:31):
But to me, this is fertile territory. And what Mam
Donnie is doing.
Speaker 7 (02:51:38):
And again, because he's a great communicator, he can he
can manage this. But I really feel that this is
an issue, you know, because to put good government in place,
you have to have people pay for it. And you
don't want people making forty thousand dollars a year having
their taxes increased. You want people who are making four
(02:51:58):
hundred million dollars a year.
Speaker 17 (02:52:00):
Year. That's what you're going to do.
Speaker 7 (02:52:01):
And I think this is a win win, And I
know that some Democrats are afraid of that idea, but
you know, I think you'll see tomorrow night in New
York City that that whole message will resonate with people
in the other forty nine states and all the other
big cities.
Speaker 17 (02:52:20):
Your quick thoughts on that, yeah, And.
Speaker 26 (02:52:22):
Look, and also I think I think you know, look,
it's not the main point. The main point is organizing
the base, organizing the people. But you know, look what
mom Donnie is asking. I think to fund childcare the
two things he needs the funding for, of course, at
the buses and the childcare, and of his four main issues,
because I think, of course, the people who don't really
(02:52:44):
cost anything, they're just a matter of implementation and other
than these high profile campaign proposals. And for the childcare
thing is a two percent tax on income above a million,
so nobody else gets impacted by it. Well, you know,
New York City is unique and that there are a
lot of people and enough people that make above a
million dollars and some make a heck of a lot
(02:53:05):
more in annual income in New York City. And one
of the things is, you know, people say, well, okay,
you got to be careful. Though all the rich people
will leave. They've threatened that a lot with Wall Street
over the years. I don't think anybody's leaving New York City.
And I think one of the things we have to
make clear.
Speaker 17 (02:53:22):
May get me a break.
Speaker 26 (02:53:24):
Yeah, but an affordable New York City for the balance
of the population compared to what it.
Speaker 22 (02:53:28):
Is now isn't even better.
Speaker 26 (02:53:29):
New York City will be more attractive for anyone, and
of course always more attractive for the wealthy. So we
do have to make some communication out to that group.
But of course it's laughable that that would be something
they would see here because these are people who have
made that.
Speaker 17 (02:53:44):
They are in New York City.
Speaker 26 (02:53:47):
I mean, the working class of New York City is
doing more than whatever that is, you know, two percent,
one percent or a half a percent of the income
they're made is being clearly driven by the fact that
the people who hold up New York cities in structure,
and you think those people would understand that they should
pay back, and of course they should, and even more
than that. Of course, I'm for a much higher taxation
rate above, but you know, I would rather see that
(02:54:08):
go both the you know, state, the local state and
federal for people making over a million dollars income annually.
But you know, it's just progressive taxation doesn't affect any
of the money under a million dollars. And yet Hokal
has apparently got his cold feet on that, so you know,
we have to be ready prepared to make that case.
But yeah, no, I mean I think I think I
(02:54:29):
think we're at a moment right now where these kind
of proposals are gonna get a lot more attention, or
they would, except for armania is being evstrated, for media
is being handed over to the right wing.
Speaker 8 (02:54:40):
We gotta we got to.
Speaker 26 (02:54:41):
Lift up shows like here's Jeff everywhere. If anybody's out
there listening and you hear about Jef's expansion into these
new states, and maybe you're not in one of the
states Jeff's expanding to, you know, you got to call
up whoever you can, you know, people who know the
media landscape in your metro area, and get this show
on the areas because right now there's a consolidation of
right wing media that is frightening. You know, I watched
(02:55:03):
a lot of commentary on the baseball games after the
World Series games these past few days, and these horrifying
TikTok ads keep come popping up, and it's exactly because
the TikTok uh is now going to be an asset
for the right wing and and you know the guys
going to be operating that.
Speaker 17 (02:55:21):
Yeah, yeah, I fear the same thing.
Speaker 7 (02:55:23):
I agree, And uh, you know, massive media, whether it's
Facebook or others. You know, owned by owned by the
right wing. You know, we've seen what happened with Jimmy Fallon.
You see last night Trump goes on Norah O'Donnell and
you know, talking about who's better looking, as if that,
you know, is a question she's going to ask, you know,
(02:55:45):
Mondani or himself. You know, I mean, it's just it's
just ridiculous. And and of course you know Paramount, you know,
Bendon needs the Trump administration.
Speaker 17 (02:55:54):
You know, you can go on.
Speaker 7 (02:55:55):
And on and on, and it's it's it's sad, but
this is what what were they? And again Democrats got
a rail because look they're the underdog party, you know,
I mean, have no fear of underdoggers. Here the nineteen
sixties cartoon, of course, you know that that was not
made for for the billionaire team.
Speaker 17 (02:56:12):
That's not you know, Republican light.
Speaker 7 (02:56:14):
So you know, be who you are, be bold, be progressive,
and you'll win, you know if you if you play
this uh you know, milk toe sort of Well, my
my my gentleman friend from from you know, Missouri. You know,
I agree with him, but you know, we have to
we have to take care of people who you know,
(02:56:35):
make under forty thousand a year. So I'll vote nay,
but I'll I'll talk with you after the after the
call Aqui and and we'll try to see if we can,
you know, make it work for both. I'm sick of
that enough, you know, I'm tired of this.
Speaker 17 (02:56:51):
BS. Well, you're right, You're really.
Speaker 26 (02:56:54):
Right to bring up the Democratic Party here. Look, one
of the things that's an asset for us right now
is is actually something that maybe over the long haul
hasn't been a real great thing for American politics and
rian people. But it is the fact that we operate
in a two party system, and in a two party system,
we now have the opportunity. And by the way, Zora
Mamdani is not shy about saying that he is a
(02:57:15):
Democrat and that what he is presenting represents something new
for the Democratic Party that it must embrace because it's
what the people want and because we have this two
party system. If the Democratic Party does again return to being,
you know, across the board we are advocate right and
an honest advocate for working people in the middle class,
(02:57:36):
then there are only two parties and that is a
message that will break through and then they'll be able
to control the messaging and it will be heard no
matter how much the right wing media and dominated much more,
including the digital major digital platforms than before. But I
also think in doing so, one of the things that
they can address when they regain political power and say
(02:57:56):
the democracy is again anti monopoly in terms of media
and digital platforms. So yeah, I mean, there's it's all
in there. But the Democratic Party, you know, at times
we always and I know everybody probably on this call
at one time or another, which we had multiple parties
like a parliamentary system. Well in this country we have
two parties right now, with the Republican Party so far
(02:58:16):
gone so completely basically you know, against the constitutional Republic
and for the olive arts, fully right, with a with
a base that the primary operation of what the think
tanks do is to construct rationales, to delude the base
of the Republican Party to complete to continue supporting the
oligarchic agenda.
Speaker 17 (02:58:37):
That's how you can look.
Speaker 26 (02:58:38):
At their think tanks, and they put billions and billions
of dollars into.
Speaker 7 (02:58:41):
Those things, Heritage Foundation and on No, it's it's uh,
it's it has to be.
Speaker 17 (02:58:53):
We have to keep.
Speaker 7 (02:58:54):
Pushing, you know, and uh, people who are not bold
enough out of the way, because those who are bold
will be the winners. And that's what if you look back,
you know when you we fight against you know, milk toast,
you know you win Obama did against Hillary Clinton. Uh,
you know you you go back in time with Roosevelt
(02:59:16):
against you know, the oligarchs back then. You know, on
and on. It's it's there. Alan, Thank you, my friend.
We'll be in touch over the next twenty four Appreciate you,
and again, become a member of PDA.
Speaker 17 (02:59:28):
It's a great organization. You know.
Speaker 7 (02:59:32):
Take those forums and you can be part of it
every Sunday.
Speaker 17 (02:59:35):
Uh, that's the best part of it. Pd America dot org.
Thanks Alang, appreciate you.
Speaker 7 (02:59:43):
I want to thank Kevin for producing this broadcast. And
uh Freddie and the great team again, folks, doublehead and
tomorrow uh three to six Eastern time, twelve and three
Pacific and seven eight in California at evening until then.
My name is Jeff Santos. Right now it's my time
to say I gotta go
Speaker 8 (03:00:02):
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