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Thank you, Kevin, and good afternoon Americans, and welcome to
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Welcome to it. We have a fantastic show today. Governors,
grandsons of FDR, and most importantly, educators and the leader
of educators coming all up. And of course we started
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all with our good friend. He's been with us for
close to fifteen years, from the great city of New York,
which we will be debuting in on AM fifteen ton
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So there you go, folks.
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We're very excited about this opportunity, and I'll refer to
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Okay, so herb Boyd will start us off.
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Amsterdam News Great journalists recently have had conversations with hopeful
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Race is closing a little bit. I think it's still.
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About a ten point margin though from Mom Donnie, we
hope to have him on the show at point after
he gets elected, and we'll look forward to that too.
We're trying to get other New York officials as well
in the coming days and weeks all right. Coming up
after that is president of the California Teachers Association. They've
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been working very closely with the effort to get Prop
fifty passed in California. The members have been out on
the streets, may have run into them in California. If
you are listening to us right now, whether it's on
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in California or one of her districts is a riverside
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and we're looking forward to speaking with her at four
thirty Eastern that's one thirty Pacific time. Then we go
to the final hour of the Jeff Santo Show, and
we begin with the former Maryland governor, Baltimore Mayor and great.
I wish we had him now. Social Security Commissioner Martin
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O'Malley will join us at five six eastern one oh six,
I'm sorry, two six Pacific time. And then a cohort
on Social Security is Jim Roosevelt, FDR's grandson and the
course co chair of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee.
He will be with us at five thirty three Eastern time. Again,
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that's two thirty three Pacific. And just a note for
those of you who are trying to keep track of
all these folks, Jim Roosevelt's father was a congressman representing
Los Angeles. There you go, so back, I think in
the fifties and sixties, So.
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There you go.
Speaker 14 (11:15):
It's fascinating because you know, there's always these ties that
you just never know you know, how they connect. But
it's really fascinating. And that's one of the great things
being involved in media, being involved in democratic politics. You
run into people that you may be met twenty years ago,
and all of a sudden, boom, you know, they're giving
you a text or a call, whatever the case may be.
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That's the good thing about politics. There's a lot of
things not so good. But anyways, we'll get into that later.
One thing I want to say, and we'll get into
this in the commentary coming up in a minute or two,
was it was really fantastic to talk yesterday with Lee Blackman.
She was is the fantastic Seiu Nage Federal director out
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of DC, and her boss, David Holloway, a longtime friend
of the program of yours truly, just really gave us
a real insight to what is going on with federal workers.
I'm going to get into that in the snap benefits
and so on and so forth in this commentary. Phone
number to join us eight three three five four five
five three three three, and we're going to try to
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replay that segment with miss Blackman tomorrow, probably at three
point thirty pm Eastern time, that would be twelve thirty
on the Pacific coast. We'll look forward to having that
done as well. Again, we have a new email address
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for yours truly, that is Jeff with a j Jeff
at Jeff Santosshow dot com. Again, that is the Jeff
Santos Show dot com. So we will we will be
doing that and we're very excited about the opportunity to,
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you know, now have that in our staff will have
it too, which is which is also great to have
for our team going forward. You know, yesterday, as I said,
we were moved by the words of Ms.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Blackman and talking about all of these issues.
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And I really believe that the Democratic Party and the
betterment of our society, the humans that live in the
United States of America, to help each other in this
in between time. You know, going back to our interview
was with Jonathan Jackson and how he you know, really
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brought the energy that his father had brought about keeping
hope alive, the great line of Reverend Jesse Jackson from
the nineteen eighties. And we have to at this point
because there is no congressional edict that you know, we
can keep putting the pressure on the House and the Senate,
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but Democrats are in the minority. So until twenty twenty seven,
you're not going to be able to have the Democrats
be able to do anything. And the other party that
is representing the working class, representing the underdog, representing you know,
you know, the folks that are basically needing government. That's
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you know, not only minorities. There's white Americans, you know,
more white Americans as we all know, are on welfare
than those who are minorities. According if you just listen
to the Trump folks or Republicans in last say forty years,
they will tell you it's all they're given minorities all
the you know, they give them free food. You know,
can't give them free food. So you know, this is
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this is what we've been happening. And again, because talk
radio for the last forty years or so has been
dominated by the right wing, you end up having you know,
this information overload and information that is misinformation sold as truth.
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And if you're not a educated consumer of political information,
I know that sounds very weird, but if you don't
have your own idea of how to get information, you know,
a lot of our callers look not only to my show,
but other shows that are on the internet, that are
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on some progressive radio public radio combination, and you know,
they try to find, you know, ways to get educated.
But not everybody a has the time, not everybody understands
how to go ahead and get that information. So they
may tear it onto television with Fox at night before
they watch a football game, and that's where they get
their information.
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Or maybe it's it's talk radio again.
Speaker 14 (15:58):
You're in traffic in the morning and you want to
get some news or whatever, so you end up, you know,
getting one of the right wing shows that are all
over this country, particularly in morning and afternoon drive. So
that's where people get their information. And if that's you know,
just basically propaganda, which it is now, I mean Gerbels
will be proud, then you know that's what's going to
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end up happening. So that's why, you know, we're trying
to do what we can here, why we look to
expand as we move into twenty twenty six, is to
provide the information and to provide the information in a
way in which you know, you may not necessarily, you know,
want to talk politics, but you may talk sports, and
sports may lead into politics, or music may lead into politics.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Again.
Speaker 14 (16:41):
Tomorrow, we're going to have a Bruce Springsteen ban cover
band coming up, and you know, the members are are
split all over the place in terms of their political views,
so we're not going to get into that with them.
But you know, Bruce Springsteen has been very vocal on
his views of President Trump, and good for him. You know,
somebody with his celebrity, his known entity, you know, doesn't have.
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To do that.
Speaker 14 (17:05):
So kudos to someone like Bruce who is a phenomenal
musician but really is a good man.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
He's done a lot with food banks, which.
Speaker 14 (17:14):
Is something that is really important now too with the
all the cutbacks and so on. All Right, So getting
back to our discussion yesterday with Miss Blackman again, the
director Nage Sciu Nage, and they work closely with the
American Federation of Government Employees as well, in an alliance
that they share. It's just hard to see people who,
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as Miss Blackman said, you know it could afford and
it's not a lot of money, but four fifty maybe
five bucks if you get a little bit of you know,
cappuccino inside your coffee or whatever, and you know, three
p fifty is probably the cheapest, maybe even more. I
haven't been to Starbucks in a while myself. I'm a
duncan don'ts guy, as you know. So the point is
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is that if you can't, if you're living that way,
now you're in a soup line. Now you're figuring out
where do you get your next meal? That's not in
America that we strive for, that we saved for. And
this is why it has to change, and it has
to change dramatically and over the next year in a
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couple of months, you know, starting on I think it's
Sunday or a Saturday is November first, So you end
up in a situation it's two months to twenty six
and then you're going to wait the eleven months for
the election, which everyone who is at you know, hearing
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my voice right now, please get ready to register to vote,
make sure you know where you're voting or talked to
Greg Palaced on Friday about all this. He's with us
at a one thirty Pacific time, leave for thirty Eastern
And in my opinion, it is a critical time, a
critical time for the Democratic Party to get every possible
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voter out there getting prepared to vote, have an education
program and you know about voter suppression. Get the best
folks out there who can talk about that. Gavin Newsom,
Marviousy has done a lot of it already. He's probably
my person normally for twenty twenty eight, but for you know,
to be a communicator in charge. Jessica Crockett, Jerry Austin
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met the other day was highly recommending the Michigan Senator Slotkin.
And you know there there are a whole bunch of people.
And of course eventually Mom Donnie will go into this,
but right now he's you know, the elections on Tuesday,
And as Jerry Austin was telling us, you know, we're
going to give him several months before he can he
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can get out beyond New York City. But you know,
he'll will be mayor of the largest city if everything
goes well on Tuesday, and that stands for something, and
that's right away as soon as he takes office. So
all of that is important. But I think we need
to understand what is that stake in this country? What
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is that stake in this country? And we got to
take care of each other. We've got to work, you know,
putting pressure on state government. That is a critical component,
a critical component. If we don't do that, then we
are in a massive, massive problem. So it is really
important to pull this together. And I think you know
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what you saw and heard yesterday. If you were online again,
you can watch the Jeff Santoshow dot Com online at
that website, and of course you can listen all of
our different radio stations across the country. I'm just I
just think that it was so powerful, and I talked
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to a couple of our listeners after the show, and
they were all very much moved by what Miss Blackman
was saying and the problems that people are going through
from Starbucks line to soup lines in just a few weeks.
That's where Donald Trump has left us. That's where our
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country is today. That's where the house is out to lunch. Literally,
you know, they put up the sign, you know, gone fishing,
and we don't get our government to work. They elect
people in Arizona like Miss Grajalva, taken over for her
dad who passed away, and they can't seat her because
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Trump is ordered Speaker Johnson can't do it because we
know what will happen if they do. The whole world
will be watching on the whole issue of Epstein's files.
So that is where we are, and it is critical
to keep talking about this issue, and we will. We're
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going to continue to have Miss Blackman on. We're gonna
look to get folks who are involved with different food
banks and food kitchens that are doing these things, a
lot of volunteers and give credit to MSNBC and CNN,
you know for their coverage, particularly MSNBC, and you know,
we'll look to talk to some of their anchors and
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reporters as well.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Good people.
Speaker 14 (22:37):
We just got confirmation of a former MSNBC reporter, Alex
cites Wald, who is around running his own newspaper in Maine.
Had him on in the past. He'll be with us
on Monday and our debut day in New York City,
a small newspaper. You know, it's important because newspapers are
extinct in a lot of ways, and so Alex has
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taken talents from MSNBC and move them to me, which
is great for the people. Main of course, that's a
huge race for the Senate race. We've talked about Platiner
and Collins and Mills the current governor, and she looks
like she's challenging Platner, Platinum is challenging her and so forth.
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And of course Platner has the fifteen point lead on
Collins and Mills and Collins are basically tied margin Nevara,
I think Mills is ahead by one point, So.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
We're going to get into that.
Speaker 14 (23:29):
But it's it's extremely important for people to understand what
is that stake here and everything we can do until
you know, the change comes in November of twenty sixth
and eventually in January where it becomes official, and the Democrats,
you know, a new speaker, first African American in Hakeem Jefferies.
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So all of that is in front of us. But
I think it can be done. We just have to say,
you know, take one step at a time. The old
adage Rome wasn't built in the day. But if the Democrats,
you know, have bold ideas, they have to state it
on healthcare, on education, on rent control, on rent stabilization.
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However you do that on gun safety issues. It's a
whole slew of issues. And if you know, much like
nineteen ninety four, I believe it was my god. Back
in the nineteen nineties, you had a thing called TV guides.
I don't know if it's still around anymore. I don't
see them, but back then it was a guide, you know,
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but this tall and you could open up and find
out what was on Channel five and which was on
Channel ten, NBCCBS ABC. I don't even think Fox was
around them, or maybe it was, but prior to the nineties,
I don't think it was.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
And you know, it was.
Speaker 14 (24:54):
Cheers and you know, Saint Elsewhere, and all these differ
in shows that were popular back in La Law and
you would find out, you know, when it was on
and to give a little bit of what the series
episode was, you know, Bob and Joan fall in love, whatever,
and that's what it was. Well, the genius of this,
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and again Republicans do politics very well. They would put
the nineteen ninety four contract with America on the TV
guide so people would be flipping through it, again, low
information voters more than likely, and they see, oh, the
Republicans are going to cut taxes.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Republicans are going.
Speaker 14 (25:36):
To do this, and it's wonderful, right, but you know,
nobody knew what was going to becoming, which was basically,
you know, a cancerous view of America, cutbacks on America.
And of course in the nineteen nineties you had this
fight with Bill Clinton, who eventually won it, and eventually
Gingrich would be ousted because of many scandals.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
But that's what really started.
Speaker 14 (25:59):
The caustic Washington relationship between Republicans and Democrats, and it
just got worse.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
We all know about what's currently with Trump.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
But they did something, and maybe Democrats can use that
way of communicating. Not so much TV guide anymore, but
with voters. We'll talk to Jerry Austin next Tuesday about
what his version of the TV Guide in twenty twenty
five is. All right, let's go to the phones. We're
going to start up in Minnesota with our good friend
John Dee. You are next on the Jeff Santio Show.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
What say you, sir?
Speaker 16 (26:34):
Yeah, I'm really interested in this case with the congressional
candidate cat of A Hazale. I don't know if I'm
pronouncing her name correctly. That she was thrown to the
ground and you know, for protesting by ice and now
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the Department of Justice. I heard that they want to
give her fifteen years imprisonment for for that. I mean,
this has just really gotten And.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Where is and John where where that's in Chicago's in Chicago?
Well and she was Jackson and yeah that one.
Speaker 16 (27:25):
Yeah, So I mean this person is like another AOC,
highly intelligent. I think she worked for meteor Matters. She's young,
and I think she would be an excellent candidate, uh
in Congress, you know, to add to some of the
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other progressive, true progressives that we have.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, that would be that would be are.
Speaker 16 (27:57):
Yeah, And it's unfortunate that they are trying to intimidate
her by you know, going after her so vehemently. I
guess that's the Department.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Of Justice, if you can call it that at this point.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
Yeah, department of revenge is probably a better way to
say it.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
The revenge, the you know what. The yeah, and she.
Speaker 16 (28:25):
Wants to replace the representative Jan Schakowski that district, which
I mean that would be an you know, excellent uh
replacement for for her. And it's too bad that our
Department of Justice, Pam Bondi, you know, just seems to
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think that, you know, intimidation and suppressing the right of
free speech is the way to go in this country.
Speaker 14 (28:58):
And well, what it is is that it's unfortunate, but
the point of the whole administration is to do whatever
Donald Trump thinks is right. And you know, he's one
of these what folks will read the TV guide and
you know and think that that's a law today, you know,
even though it was forty years ago or thirty five
years ago. So that's the unfortunate part. I'm trying to
keep it light, but that is we'll dig more into
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that candidate in Chicago and see if she's able to
actually come on our air as well.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
That's an important piece. Thank you.
Speaker 14 (29:30):
John hanging in there. We'll we'll probably talk to you
later in the broadcast.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
This is Jeff Santios Show.
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I'm Chris Karashia. Snap benefits are set to expire for
millions of low income Americans this weekend if the government
shut down rolls on. Democrats say that the Trump administration
can use contingency funds to continue those benefits, but the
USDA says the move is not allowed by law. There
is no votes scheduled for today in the Senate. At
least thirty people have died as a result of Hurricane Melissa,
which is making its way towards Bermuda. The majority of
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those deaths came from floods in Haiti. Hurricane experts say
Melissa's one of the strongest Atlantic hurricanes in recorded history.
The storm will approach Bermuda later today. In is packing
wins of one hundred and five miles per hour, making
it a Category two storm. A Virginia teacher shot by
one of her students is taking the stand today against
the school's former assistant principle in a civil trial. Abby's
Werner is testifying to recount the shooting, saying she thought
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that she had died. A shooting took place in twenty
twenty three, and former assistant principal Ebitdy Parker is accused
of ignoring warning signs that the student may have had
a gun. I'm Chris Karanhio NBC News Radio.
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Speaker 20 (32:40):
Let me tell you something about a bully. The only
thing they understand is strength. The Democratic Party were furious
at me for organizing the need to impeach campaign, but
we saw the frat millions joined the movement. Trump tried
to steal one election. He's trying again now. It's Texas
versus California. Want to beat Trump. Democrats can't keep playing
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by the old rules. Vote yes on Prop fifty and
let's stick it to Trump.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Okay, see a.
Speaker 13 (33:11):
A supporting the middle class. This is the Jeff Santos Show.
Speaker 14 (33:33):
Thirty three minutes past the hour. It is the Jeff
Santo Show that you are tuned into. Coming you live
from the South coast here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Next guest comes to us from Harlem, USA. He is
in the heart of it all in the great New
York City, which will be debuting The Jeff Santo Show
live three to six Eastern Time in that fantastic city
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in the United States of America, hopefully to be led
Zorn Mamdani starting on Tuesday, Election Day of course New
York City and across America. And here to talk about
Mamdannie and a bunch of other issues. Is our good friend.
He's been with us for over a decade. He is
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the fantastic columnist for the Amsterdam News check it out.
And of course he's written a number of great books
on Malcolm X, Black, Detroit and many others. It's time
to talk to mister Boyd Herb Boyd live in New York.
Mister Boyd, how are you today?
Speaker 21 (34:36):
All right? Thank you, Jeff, and congratulations as you expand
your listening audience. It's a very very it's going to
be a wonderful connection that you have with the with
what you call the metropolitan center of the of this country,
and they need to hear the kind of the essence
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of literature and and messages that you have. Right here.
We're enjoying some room heavy rain, you know. Otherwise, of
course it's the rain. The Trump is Trump isn't from
a political standpoint.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
That's a political storm and a half. Wow.
Speaker 14 (35:18):
Well, I hope you the rain doesn't come our way,
which I think it will be. Actually, you know, that's
our luck. But as we're close by, Herb, it has
been a really amazing you know, last few months. Of course,
we can spend a lot of time in California with
our California audience, trying to get Prop fifty past and
the importance of that to the other forty nine states
(35:39):
besides California. But of course there's other things going on,
you know, the race in Virginia for Governor Spanburger seems
to be comfortable there and then of course the New
Jersey race, which is a little closer with Mikey Cheryl
and but it looks like the Democrats should be able
to hold on to that seat too. And then of
course there's the Mam Donnie race with Como. We're seeing
(36:03):
a whole bunch of you know, a lot of bs
and a lot of things that begin with C and
end with P. Since we won't use the S word
and that is out there. I guess some polls show
it within ten points, but it still seems to be
a comfortable race for mister mom Donnie.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Give us the latest. I know you have spoken with.
Speaker 14 (36:26):
Him and his team over the last couple of weeks.
What is he saying? What is he telling you? How
confident is he about a win on Tuesday?
Speaker 21 (36:39):
Well, you know, he's very cautiously optimistic, as it is
his demeanor, this his style. You know, he's never over excited,
of course, never understated either kind and he plays it
right in the middle of things. But I think the
team is suggesting they're quite comfortable with a ten point
(37:00):
margin at this point. It could shrink a bit. We
have to be very wary of the October surprise. We've
had a couple already, but the major one hasn't occurred yet,
and it may yet happen. I think Monday will probably
be the deadline on that, to see exactly what happens
(37:22):
with Sliwa, whether he steps out of the race and
gives Cuomo additional percentage points in closing the margin. But
you don't have to close it considerably to win over
a lot of the undecided boats. And that's all that's
left out there a lot of people. Of course, we
have a number of since straddlers as ever, but I
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think the good majority of people, particularly the young voters,
decided that you know, hey, our man Zoran is the man.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
There you go, my man Zoran, there you go. I
like that. It rids thing.
Speaker 21 (38:01):
We'll sell it to him.
Speaker 14 (38:02):
Okay, yeah, exactly exactly, talking with the fantastic for avoid here.
We'll open up the phone calls and I know that
a good friend Mark in San Francisco wants to say hi.
Will talk with him in a couple of minutes. But
let me ask you, is there are you seeing?
Speaker 7 (38:19):
You know?
Speaker 14 (38:19):
And I guess then this a final weekend before an election,
I mean, are you seeing a ton of volunteers from Mom, Donnie.
That's what I have heard in this campaign is he
has people who are, you know, thirteen years old to
eighty years old out there campaigning for him. Is that
what's happening on the streets of New York City and
Harlem and across the Borrows.
Speaker 21 (38:41):
That's pretty much has been the scenario. We saw it
early on and it was amazing. The thing about it
is is how he's baking and doing his campaign strategy.
He's leaning a lot where the young people are, I
mean the social media he's pounding. That's where it's really
(39:02):
considerable wave of activity. CMO is like doing the old
fashioned traditional way. A lot of literature in the hand
of folks, and you can see it scattered all over
the streets here in Harlem. People I guess they pick
it up and then they throw it down. But anyway
you can show it indicates that he is out there
(39:23):
in that sense, not that he's working the precincts, not
that he's working the streets, particularly as Mandanie moves all
over the place, particularly with the Black churches he's been
of course, the Muslim community here in Harlem and in
the Bronx and Queens. He's making sure his presence is
strong there and what its message is. The affordability continues
(39:45):
to be the key point, but he's not He's very
wary of the concern about safety. He's concern about the
cost of living, He's concerned about what's happening with Gaza.
He continues to not shrink away from the situation, although
recently in Gaso we have the intense, uh recurrence, you know,
(40:08):
the attacks on the people there, hundreds of people being
killed over the last couple of days. But now they're
talking about the ceasefires back on again. Well, we can
believe that I got some land in Florida I can
sell you.
Speaker 14 (40:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, bridge in Arizona too, Uh, you know,
the Brooklyn Bridge. So much, so much bs that's going
on between net Yahoo and Trump. It's just unbelievable, but
both of them know how to deliver it, one with
one with a smile and the other one with a snicker.
It is uh, it's it's a sad situation for the
(40:43):
people in Gaza, as we all know. And it's it
obviously ruins, you know, a democracy in Israel. To have
somebody like net Yahoo, uh, you know, on a complete
destruction course of his neighbor. So talk to me Herb about,
you know, how the relationship that Mandanni has developed and
(41:06):
how on day one he takes this as our good friend,
Reverend Jesse Jackson. We had on Jonathan Jackson yesterday, his son,
the congressman from Chicago, and we'll be replaying back tomorrow
night in our LA listeners at KABC. By the way,
one of the things that you know, he was saying,
and of course j as he was well known for,
(41:28):
was the Rainbow Coalition. And I think Mandanni is part
of the twenty first century version of what Reverend Jesse
Jackson said in the nineteen eighties of the Rainbow Coalition.
You know, it's it's African American, it's Caucasian, it's Latino,
it's Asian, it's straight, it's a it's it's you know,
part of the whole fabric of America.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
And I think, you know, he's one of the very
few people who.
Speaker 14 (41:53):
Have basically taking that and expanded it again from what
I'm seeing, I'm not in New York City. I'm looking
forward to hopefully having a chance to talk to h
mayor elect you know, in the coming days and weeks.
But you know, is that is that something that you know,
again you saw it with Jesse and obviously David Dinkins
(42:14):
for a short time. But you know he has a chance,
uh to really have that. Of course, Obama in Oait,
what are you what are your thoughts about that? Because
he you know, a lot of people don't think of
him as African American, but he was born in Uganda.
The last time I checked, Kanda is in Africa. So
(42:35):
there you go. Talk to me about that.
Speaker 21 (42:40):
Well, you know, as I always say that, all comparisons odious,
but there are elements and aspects a little bit of
the Dinkins uh or the old mosaic, the beautiful mosaic
he used to talk about in characterizing the the populace here,
a little bit of the Jesse Jackson, the whole Rainbow coalition.
(43:04):
But I think he basically he's a Muslim coming in
and New York is I mean, that's going to be
absolutely unique. We never had anything like that. And of
course I think he has a resolve and he has
the qualifications, and he certainly steeled himself and prepared himself
in a number of ways as he did during the
(43:25):
campaign to deal with the Islamophobia, which of course, is
absolutely pregnant, you know, in this society. So he's fended
off all of those accusations and assertions. His thing about
a the infatato, I mean, anything to do with what's
happening in Israel, I asked one of the questions. Appointed
(43:48):
questions I asked him because it was being painted as
someone who was denying the existence of the state of Israel.
So I put that particular question to him, among others,
and he made it very explicit that he is a
support supporter that the state of Israel should exist. But
(44:09):
he stopped at that point, and I guess a lot
of stuff hanging in there, you know, was beyond that.
But anyway, he's going to quickly just wipe that away
because the accusation was coming at him from a number
of the commentators, including New York Times up ed pages
(44:31):
where people were saying that he was totally opposed to
the existent state of Israel. So he made it clear
to me and other members of the Black Press, which
of course is another indication of him reaching out in
the Rainbow Coalition, is that he called together the Black
Press to talk to him because the rumors were circulating
(44:52):
that he was not reaching out to us in a
very very substantial way that he was mostly interested in
the Muslim community and dealing with what's happening and Crown Heights,
you know, with the Jewish community, to say nothing of
what's happening in his own community in Queens, and giving
less attention to Harlem. So I think one of the
(45:14):
things he was trying to discourage, you know, any further
you know, discussion about him him being opposed to the
situation here in Harlem. And he's come through here several
occasions now, including the churches. He did a major one
at the Sunday I think at Abyssinia, which of course
is the number one church in our community, and it
(45:36):
was a tremendous turnout there from what I hear from
a couple of friends who attended. It was a good turnout.
And he dwelled on that whole situation about dealing with
particularly the costs of living and trying to kind of
put a tamp on the whole notion that African Americans
are fleeing from out of this city. You know, certainly
(45:59):
they are, and he has a reason for that. And
so he says from day one he's going to be
in the patch up that situation and make sure that
you know, no more African Americans are going to be
pulling out of here for the whole gentrification. He speaks
of reparations and gentrification. Those are two things that he
dwells on. And I talked to him about a couple
(46:22):
of things too, and he was saying, hey, we can
have a one on one, and was scheduled to have
a one on one. I say, well, I want to
get you on the radio with Jeff Santos and he says, well, okay,
we we'll work that out. Maybe in the post election situation.
Speaker 15 (46:37):
We go to it.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
Well, thank you her.
Speaker 21 (46:40):
A couple of we'll get you order to ask him,
how did you win this thing exactly?
Speaker 14 (46:50):
You know, obviously you were talking to her void and
letting an Amsterdam News tell your story. That was the
that would end up being the key my man. Awesome, awesome, awesome,
Thank you very much. We look forward to that and
we're trying to get other elected officials, including AOC and
others on the show.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
In the first week.
Speaker 14 (47:10):
Let me ask you before we go to Mark in
San Francisco, herb Yesterday we had on Lee Blackman. She's
the age Federal Director about all the federal workers. You know,
I'm I'm looking at my TikTok feed here.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
We love it.
Speaker 14 (47:25):
Uh the Jeff Santo show on TikTok Rocking and Company
doing a great job. And uh there's a woman, uh,
an African American woman, uh, you know, crying on this
on this video, and I'm wondering, you know, for the
federal workers in New York and New Jersey. You know,
this is this is a crisis that you know, they're
going from the Starbucks line, as Miss Blackman said, to
(47:49):
the soup line.
Speaker 7 (47:50):
And I just want to get in your quick thoughts
and then we'll take mark.
Speaker 21 (47:56):
But are where are the really mostly people that concerned
her out not only here but across the country around
the whole globe. Here is that the snap thing ends
on Saturday, and Governor Holkl have stepped up to come
make sure that the people here in this state are
(48:16):
going to be said, and she's making certain measures to
ensure that. But that's a principal concern. I mean, you
talk about someone and they're going to blame the Democrats
on this, I mean kind of aspersion they've been casting
on the Democrats is absolutely amazing when you have someone
who's weaponizing the military, you know, in our cities and
(48:39):
saying nothing of taking out boats in the Pacific and
the Caribbean. I mean, all of the due process being
violated there. We got so many issues on the plate here,
it's hard to focus on anyone. But the one that's
closest is when you've got to put some food in
your stomach that hits you right away in the gut.
Speaker 14 (48:59):
You might say, yeah, it does, and you know it
goes along with the rents too damn high in most cities,
including New York City.
Speaker 7 (49:07):
Of course, at the top of that list.
Speaker 14 (49:09):
It goes to the fact that you can't get an education,
so you can't get a good job with a good wage,
you know, and good health insurance, which of course is
now being cut with the shutdown. So I mean, it's
just a trickle down effect on so many different things.
Somebody who has been talking with me on this is
our good friend in the Bay Area in San Francisco. Mark,
you are next with her boyd. Go right ahead, my friend.
Speaker 7 (49:32):
Let's say you her BOYD.
Speaker 14 (49:34):
How you doing?
Speaker 21 (49:35):
Oh? Thank you? Mark? Everything all right, I'm okay, I'll
be okay. I'm just getting a little food my stomach.
Make sure that we can say that out here.
Speaker 11 (49:47):
Well, you better hand on to your wallet. Trump, right,
thousand dollars from all of us and ruminade on what
wallet they want to take it from.
Speaker 21 (50:00):
I was thinking out in San Francisco.
Speaker 11 (50:01):
Mark, they're going good. I mean, we're going to get this, uh,
Proposition fifty passed. So we're gonna do our part over here.
Speaker 21 (50:10):
And what what's that? Mark, We'll say Composition fifty. What's that?
Speaker 14 (50:15):
That's the prop fifty that you know, Yeah, redistricting her okay,
Prop fifty in Calsel Okay.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
So that's a big victy.
Speaker 11 (50:28):
Trying to offset Trump's assault on uh, you know, on
the House of Representatives. We're trying to get more Democrats
uh to the House of Representatives to offset what he's
doing in Texas. And it looks like that's going to
pass big hmmm.
Speaker 21 (50:45):
Yeah. Well, North Carolina, you saw what happened down there,
and certainly the situation across the country. I mean, I mean,
the whole issue of redistrict and jerrymandering. It's almost like
passing the prologue again. We're going back to the whole
Shelby versus holder. The whole eviration of these of the
(51:06):
Jim Crow voting rights that the nineteen sixty five. Of course,
there's only one pillar left and that's Section two, and
that seems to be in jeopardy.
Speaker 14 (51:17):
We'll be talking to Greg Palace tomorrow herb on this
issue of voter suppression and redistricting efforts. But what Gavin
Newsom is doing and they're returning unlike the Republicans in
Texas and Abbott, who's basically just a puppet for Donald
Trump and company, you know, he's going to be taking
a lot of African Americans and one of the one
of the largest African American if counties in America, if
(51:40):
not the largest, in Harris County in Houston, you know,
off the ballot. Latinos of course as well, if you'll
let all the Latinos vote, Democrats win that state almost
two to one.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
But you know they have been voter suppressing for years there.
Speaker 14 (51:54):
But this is this is where it is, and I
think Gavin Newsom is fighting fire with fire. You take
five districts that are right now Republican and make it Democrat.
In twenty thirty two, you revert back to the old
redistrict lines, and you know, and and then you know
you go from there. But this is this is critical, man,
because you don't do it, it's it's going to be
very hard. I know, Mark, you have another question, go
(52:16):
right ahead, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11 (52:19):
I was just going to say to Herb that you know, basically,
the Republicans are trying to say that the Democrats are
the enemy, and it's basically a diversion that the rich
people in this country have declared war on us, and
they want to divert the attention away from that fact.
We've got to get everybody together to realize that the
rich and the corporations are trying to just basically take
(52:40):
control of our democracy, and we've got to all stick
together and defeat this and not let the Republicans divert
and say that the Democrats are the enemy, because that's
just another Republican diversion from the fact that they're robinus
blind and it's the corporations in one percent and the GOP.
Speaker 21 (53:00):
The King's the No King's Day was. It resonated well
across the country, but we always concern about what happens
after that. We had a tremendous turnout, massive turnout seven
million people hit the streets of this country. But what
do you do after that? I think the Refuse Fascism
(53:20):
November this they're going to be similar down in Washington,
d C. I hope a number of a partner organizations
joined them in that demonstration to conducatentenue to momentum that
we got on October eighteenth with No King's Day.
Speaker 7 (53:37):
That would be fantastic.
Speaker 14 (53:39):
And we need that seven million people strong coming out
to vote nationwide on the fourth of November. And we
need people like Mark and a lot of our callers
and listeners throughout the country to basically lead that charge
again nonviolent, peacefully, to do the right thing. Mark, thank
(53:59):
you so much much for a call and keep on fighting,
as I say, peacefully, my friend.
Speaker 7 (54:03):
We'll talk to you later in the broadcast. Let me
ask you this, Herb.
Speaker 14 (54:07):
Do you sense that we have a scenario here that
you know, the people that we have talked about, young
African Americans maybe who stayed home with Harris in twenty
twenty four, are they now convinced that, you know, not
only that Harris, you know, would have saved a lot
(54:28):
of lives and a lot of people, you know, from
dying of starvation from all of the problems that now
people are facing with these cutbacks and layoffs and so forth.
But do you sense that they have now turned the
corner or is there still a lot of apprehension from
gen Z or gen Y in the African American male community.
Speaker 21 (54:53):
To say, definitely of gen.
Speaker 7 (54:54):
X, yeah, j X, my world, Yeah, some concern.
Speaker 21 (55:00):
You know, they're waiting to hear something, something that really
resonates for them. I think one of the things that's
happening in this country is to see more and more
younger elected officials. That will help a lot. Uh, You've
got we had some iterations of that out of the
Fast you know, out of Florida. You know what was
(55:22):
happening up in New Jersey, had a couple couple of
young people even out in California, California. Maybe Mark can
can give us some information about what's happening with the
young voters and whether or not they're excited about this
year moving into it, because if they don't get excited,
the mere terms is going to be disastrous because the
(55:43):
Trump administration is doing everything they can to sabotage that completely.
And I look at the movie The weaponization, the whole
military move, the potential Insurrection Act being opposed, and what
that means that you know, he has promised to bring
the troops here in New York City. If I'm dining
wins so as one of the hypotheticals that were proposed,
(56:07):
what do you do? What do you do when Trump
unloose the legions of National Guard troops here in New
York City? And that's the potential we have to concerned about.
And young people are certainly concerned about the whole weaponization
and militarization that's going on because they know they'll be
on the front line of that. They'll be the ones
(56:28):
on the ramp as dealing with that advance, whether it's
the weaponization or militarization or the immigration issue Ice and
how Ice is moving aggressively, snatching people off the street
without anything got a provocation. But I'm still concerned, you know, Jeff,
with what's happening with the number of people who are
(56:50):
just being knocked out smitherenes. You know, in the Pacific,
and it was in the Caribbean. Now they moved out
of the Pacific, I guess the Atlantic, and it's next.
Speaker 7 (57:01):
It is outrageous.
Speaker 14 (57:02):
But this is when you have somebody who wants to
test nuclear weapons because the Chinese have tested it over
the years, which hasn't happened again since the nineties. But
you know, generations and decades, you know, and millennials don't
make a difference to mister Trump.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
You know, he just wants to show who book as
you are.
Speaker 14 (57:21):
So this is what we have, and it's sad with
the capital ss of who we're being led by and
how we are basically being led into a massive hole
economically with these tariffs. You know, I've been using the
whole issue of Dunkin Donuts. We have it here, fourteen
(57:43):
dollars for this bag which you can't see her, but
I'm holding it up for our audience that is looking
at it at thud Jeff Santo show on video and
it was seven dollars just September fifteenth, now fourteen ninety nine,
three weeks in a row at the local sn s
one of the one of the top grossers in Massachusetts.
(58:05):
And you know, this is the tariff of Trump, the
Trump tariff economy, and it's going to destroy many, many
lives and many many businesses along the line. Uh, you know,
unless there's an end to it. So yeah, this is
this is where we live. This is us in uh
you know, October of twenty twenty five, Herb. And frankly,
(58:27):
you know, no.
Speaker 12 (58:27):
Doubt about it.
Speaker 21 (58:29):
I'm a frank You have to pay for the hole
in the hole in the doughnut. You've got to pay
for that too.
Speaker 7 (58:34):
Right exactly, that hole is getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 14 (58:38):
Uh, pretty soon you're going to have a massive donut.
Speaker 7 (58:42):
But yeah, well I think, yeah, I think.
Speaker 14 (58:46):
One of the things, Herb, we're going to talk about,
uh you know, is the post election next Thursday of
Mundani and what that means. I'm looking forward to that.
We'll be talking next Thursday. We'll be on in the together.
Speaker 7 (59:00):
Yes, yes, look forward to it.
Speaker 14 (59:02):
Maybe we give you an hour, Okay, we have to
just give you an hour, all right, my man.
Speaker 7 (59:07):
Well, thank you, and we.
Speaker 21 (59:09):
Will celebrate the birthday and I'll get back to you.
Speaker 22 (59:12):
Okay, Oh yes, that's right.
Speaker 14 (59:15):
I don't know if we can do this in last second,
but I will promise you her we will play happy
birthday to you and your wife who are going to
have the birthday on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (59:22):
Happy, happy, happy birthday.
Speaker 14 (59:24):
Thank you thank you completely forgot.
Speaker 7 (59:28):
We'll I'll play it in the next segment.
Speaker 14 (59:30):
Thank you, Happy birthday, her boy to missus v take
care man, We'll be right back.
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It is our two other Jeff Stanto show. Come in
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Fridays on KABC that is at seven o'clock on Tuesdays
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save the rest of the forty nine states, to be
able to expand, to protect students, to protect teachers, and
in particular, and a lot of other issues that we
are at stake here dealing with Donald Trump, and we've
just talked about, you know, yesterday and you know the
interview we did with Ms Blackman of sciun Age. All
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of that issues is so so relevant to everyday Americans
because when you go from Starbucks line to soup lines,
that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with that not
only with the shutdown with health care, you're dealing with
this with snap benefits being cut on Saturday. So all
these things that are going on, and it's right in
front of us, and you need you need fighters, people
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who fight peacefully, and the California Teachers do that every
day and on Sundays. They are a fantastic, fantastic union.
And we're great pleasure to bring in the president of
the California Teachers Association. Mister David Goldberg joins us, the
president of the union. It's great to have you with us, sir,
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welcome to the Jeff Santo Show.
Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
Can you hear me.
Speaker 26 (01:09:18):
If you're talking to me, I'm not hearing anything.
Speaker 14 (01:09:21):
Okay, all right, we'll try to get that audio connection
back together again. Kevin or Freddie I can hear him,
but he can obviously hear me, so hopefully we can
get that squared away.
Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
Let me just tell.
Speaker 14 (01:09:35):
You our friends and of people who follow the Jeff
Santo Show know of our relationship with the head of
Badass Teachers, Melissa Tomplinson. They also know of the great
work that our friends at New Jersey Education Association are doing,
and that is of course with the former Deputy Chief
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of Staff to Governor Phil Murphy, Deb Cornovaka, who we
may end up talking to a little bit later in
the broadcast, but you know, once we get this audio
thing squared away and Kevin, let me know when we
have that situation, hopefully Freddie and you can tackle that
over the next minute or two. You apologize to our
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audience for this, but we're trying to establish that connection.
So one of the things that is, you know, important
is students and you know, breakfast.
Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
You know, people get free breakfast.
Speaker 14 (01:10:34):
You know that's going to be eliminated, the free lunches
and so forth.
Speaker 7 (01:10:38):
These are all.
Speaker 14 (01:10:39):
Things that you know, again, you cannot go to school
in the morning. And I think of, you know, my situation,
and thousands of people, millions of people are around this
country who you know, either get up in the morning
and don't like what mom has made or go to
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school because they don't.
Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Have a mom, but they don't have a breakfast.
Speaker 14 (01:11:04):
And what that impact does in the state of learning,
this to me is really critical and we cannot have
we cannot have cuts to people's lives. And this is
what is happening, and it is outrageous, outrageous that this
is what Donald Trump is doing. Kevin, do we have
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any update on when we have this hookup going?
Speaker 7 (01:11:34):
Okay?
Speaker 14 (01:11:35):
All right, and again if we can't get the video,
we'll just do a phone call Kevin on that, so
we can try to make that happen over the next
minute or two.
Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
Okay.
Speaker 14 (01:11:45):
So one of the other aspects of this, as we
talked on Tuesday with Mss Tomblinson of Badass Teachers, is that,
you know, special ed all the things that go into
the education. It's not just you know, somebody gets there
at eight twenty and they leave at two twenty.
Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
It's all the things that go on, you know, pre
and post.
Speaker 14 (01:12:08):
For the teacher, for the educators, everybody from the school
bus drivers to the folks that are in the cafeteria,
all of this, all of this could be on the
chopping block. And that is why again Prop fifty is
such a major, major piece of well, it's not a
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piece of legislation, it's a vote. So I ask you,
if you are in California to make sure that you
are voting if you haven't voted by mail already, like
our good friend Mark did from San Francisco, that you
go out to vote on Tuesday, November fourth, and you know,
and you're there early, and you're there late, and I
know the teachers are volunteering to get people to and
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from the polls. That's why it's so valuable and so
necessary to be able to have this great, great organization
that is doing everything they possibly can, you know, with this.
And we're hoping again to talk to President Goldberg in
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
All right, I believe that we do have the.
Speaker 14 (01:13:14):
President of the California Teachers Association, President Goldberg. Sorry about
the inability to get you on right away, but it's
great to have you on, sir. Thank you for joining
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you know this this afternoon. Welcome to the Jeff Santo Show.
Speaker 26 (01:13:43):
Great to be here. If that was my biggest problem today,
we'd all be good.
Speaker 14 (01:13:46):
So all good in the neighborhood, my friend. Well again,
as I was just saying, you know, the impact that
you know, failure to have Prop. Fifty pass to give
the ability to the Democratic legislature and Governor Newsom to
be able to pass legislation to have these new districts
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because of what has happened in Texas and around the
country with the right wing and how they have, in
my opinion, you know, destroyed the ability of Latinos of
African Americans to vote in those places, particularly places like
Texas and Florida. And you know, and this has been
going on for a long long time, and you know,
Gavin Newsom is fighting fire with fire, and I know
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that you believe in that because the impact of cutbacks
that we're seeing now with the Trump administration is really
severe and it impacts your teachers, your students.
Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
Give me your perspective here on this whole issue of Prop. Fifty.
Speaker 26 (01:14:45):
Yes, there's a number of levels that this is working on.
Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
Right.
Speaker 26 (01:14:49):
This is a the counter attack, as you're saying, to
authoritarianism and actually kind of racist attack that the Trump
administration is doing. It is worth noting, as you said,
that the districts he's tart, that their targeting Texas actually
are disenfranchising people of color, stuff that they would not
have been able to do. Frankly, if they would not,
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the Supreme Court would not have gutted some of that
elections and civil rights laws that allow them to do that.
We're doing actually the opposite in California, by the way,
the redistricting that's set to happen here if this passes,
would actually bring more people of color voices into the Congress.
So it's the opposite, but on the bigger So that's
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just on that level, on a bigger fundamental level. The
reason why educators and our union is behind this is
just as constant attacks by the Trump administration. You should
know that we have one out of eight students in
this nation or in school in California, so we feel
the brunt of these tax In fact, a lot of
it has been targeted initially at states like California. We
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lost Trump illegally a day before funding was supposed to
go out this last summer, tried to cut funding for
that went to rural students, that went to migrant students,
all the kind of racists again, this anti tax on DEI.
We pushed back and we that did not happen. But
as it is, these cuts, we have twenty six million
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students in California that are receiving food programs, supplemental food programs.
That's what's that's what's a danger. We have seven a
half million students whose special ed resources are being threatened
around this stuff as well. Round with federal government. Frankly
under Democratic Republican Uh, leadership has never funded IDA. It's stuff,
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you know, special led services. Uh. And that's that's not everyone.
But the way that Trump is actually weaponizing this has
really pushed us as an organization to say, we're going
to have to fight on our local levels and our
state levels, but now we also really have to our
survivals is based and also taking on and winning frankly,
these federal struggles as well.
Speaker 7 (01:16:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:16:58):
No, it's it's it's coming at you in many different ways,
many different levels. You know, as I said while we
were trying to get your audio fixed, just think about
and I know that you talk about this a lot,
but it is so critical, you know, and avan you
know I've said this before, David, educators teachers the most
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important profession in this country because basically, if you don't
do it, you don't give them the tools, you don't
educate the future, it dries up. Then you really have
a dictatorship on your mind, and only the very wealthy
get educated, and everybody else is fighting for scraps. Talk
to me about the breakfast, the lunch that is provided
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by the federal government, because not everybody is born with
the Donald Trump silver spoon in their mouths. And how
this impacts, you know, the ability for your educators, your
teachers to get through to a student. I know, when
I'm hungry, I'm not really thinking about history or math
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or English. I'm thinking about putting some food in my mouth.
That's a priority, and now that may not be able
to be given to people who need it.
Speaker 26 (01:18:13):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I could talk to you personally about
my experiences teaching. I taught for over a decade in
the Ramona Gardens housing projects in Los Angeles. Every weekend
I would get oranges. There was a vendor as the
Farmer's Market who would give me a big bag of
oranges for my students. And every weekend I would go
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to store and I would get sandmwich, bread and peanut
butter and jelly. And I knew, especially at the end
of the month, if food kids did not have food, frankly,
they could not function. Now what's happening now is this
is becoming not just the end of the month, this
is becoming every day of the month. Right, We've already
had the highest inequality ever in California kind of leads
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the way in that, but we've also have people now
snap benefits going out expiring November. First, what families are
going to be looking at is just devastating, and kids
cannot learn when they're hungry. It leads to all kinds
of behavioral I mean, just puts people on survival mode,
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and you know, to weaponize this, and to weaponize this
not just in this current shutdown, but the weaponize the
cuts to healthcare. It cuts to all kinds of programs.
As I said, we've been saying for decades, now, please
federal government do your part that you said you would,
and fund special ad fund the programs you said you would.
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Now they said they have no money. Now all of
a sudden, they have forty five million dollars to up
you know, to all our ice agents right for the
next four years, you know, to attack our communities or
students are not getting services they deserve it. So it's
really and it's not just educators who have a role
to play, but it's also frankly educator unions because we
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find ourselves today again partly because other unions have been
so devastated private sector unions have been devastated over the
last decades, we find ourselves to be the biggest union
in the nation right now and We're a union that
workers that are in every single community across this state
and across all the states, and we have an obligation
and to fight for ourselves because our disrespect of our
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profession is connected to this. It's connected to our still
three quarters profession made up of women's disrespectful of women's work,
it's disrespectful of the students we serve. So we have
to fight for ourselves. That's part of justice, but so
is fighting for our students. And that's really becoming more
and more clear, and we're thrilled to see like in Chicago,
in LA and cities across this nation where teachers' unions
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are the ones who are kind of the front line
on leading the pushback against this authoritarianism and these ice
attacks on our students and communities.
Speaker 14 (01:20:58):
You know, we're talking with David Goldberg, president of the
California Teachers Association, and the impact that they have in
helping students and the impact that they have as a
great union. And as you said, because of all the cutbacks,
because of all the private unions, they are the biggest
uh and it's it's runs by mister Goldberg and some
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of his lieutenants to the point where they are doing
the right thing for the working class, and you know,
and they're also communicating that.
Speaker 15 (01:21:27):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (01:21:27):
And again it's a real pleasure to have David, and
we look forward to having a long relationship with David
and the CTA California Teachers Association here on the Jeff
Santo Show going forward, I I I also got to
tell you that, you know, if it if it wasn't
for the teachers, and I kept talking to our good
friend at Badass Teachers, Melissa Tomlinson herself is a New
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Jersey Education Association.
Speaker 7 (01:21:53):
Part of the whole NEA family, you know, and.
Speaker 14 (01:21:58):
It's it's so critical because every facet of life goes
through it. You know, the attack on trans that affects
school teachers and students there, the attack on on ice.
You know, if there are Latino or folks that look
like Latino that whether they're in New Jersey or California
or anywhere in this country. Of course, we all mentioned
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what's happened with Chicago. We had on Congressman Jonathan Jackson yesterday,
Rev and Jesse Jackson's son and you know, was telling the.
Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Horror stories of Chicago.
Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
It's the teachers that are dealing with this, and the
more you throw at them, you know, the more you
know you're going to have to have the strength to
sort of still get through to the students. You know,
I remember twenty thirty years ago, maybe less than that now,
but at least in the last twenty years. And unfortunately
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some under the Democrats, mainly on the Republicans, where you know,
they put forty kids in a classroom and they say,
all right, teachers, go do your magic what you know,
you know, teach everybody.
Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
Everybody should be an a student.
Speaker 14 (01:23:03):
In the meantime, teachers' aids are cut, you know, special
education is cut, and you're spending all this time teaching
to the test, you know, I mean, it's the stuff.
Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
And you guys keep.
Speaker 14 (01:23:14):
On fighting peacefully, and you do it in a way
in which you provide a foundation for young students, young
men and women to do this. And I tell you,
I give you tremendous credit as the largest teachers union
and the largest union now in the country to be
able to keep this fight going, because you know, a
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lot of people would have given up and say, look,
I can't do this anymore. And so thank you on
behalf of people who admire teachers, and teachers had a
major impact on my life in my career. I just
think that it is incredibly important for people to understand
who are voters on Prop fifty, the role of educators,
the role of what the CTA is doing, and to me,
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this is important not only for people in California, but
people listening all around the country. We'll repeat this when
we debut in New York City next week and our
of course, our listeners in Boston and throughout the state
of California. But I think it's incredibly important for everyone
to understand what your fight is on a daily basis.
Speaker 26 (01:24:18):
Dated Yeah, I mean it is a daily basis, and
like I said, we're fighting on multiple levels. I mean,
we're fighting our own districts to make sure they don't
hold money. Often we're fighting, and I guess to your point,
I do want to point something else out. Look, this
is definitely this is a very partisan fight. We do
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not pick this fight. But this is when Trump and
this authoritarianism tries to come towards Congress and basically disempower
our voters in California from having any say on the
national level by gerrymandering and rigging stuff in Texas, we
have to Wigan. But we, as you said, some of
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it is not partisans. We frankly, we've had Democrats as well,
who for a decade uh bought into this whole privatization
and this whole charterization, as if that is somehow instead
of well, you starve districts of funding, let's privatize them,
this neoliberal way of looking at education, and it was
an absolute disaster and we're still picking up California. Frankly,
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we see here California, we're the fourth largest economy in
the world if we're our own nation, and we yet
we don't have work towards the middle and some and
some stuff for towards the bottom in terms of our
ratios of students to counselors. That's that's unconscionable. So we
need to fight on all levels, take on all parties,
and really make sure that students get what they deserve.
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That's that's a big fight. Again. We're we're aligned with
our governor on this, Governor Newsom on this, but there's
also times where we need to push here on the
democratic establishment in our state to really think about how
we fund We used to find we used to have
free universities you sees cal states and community colleges in California.
So that went away with the kind of the racist
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backlash that we had around Prop thirteen, and we've had
now decades and decades of disinvestment public education. It's something
that we have to take care of in California and
our Democratic Party, frankly, who leads the state, has to
take care of that as well.
Speaker 14 (01:26:20):
We're talking with David Goldberg, president of California Teachers Association
here on the Jeff Santo Show again. We will invite
them again to just have about three minutes left in
our segment here. I must tell you I've been so
impressed with Governor Newsom and his ability to communicate and
fight fire with fire against mister Trump. And you know,
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to have an ally like the California Teachers Association is
really super important. And also you know to understand that
you know, those teachers, they're not there because they want
to make a million dollars. They're there to help people
don't go into education field, you know, to make money.
And you know that word has to get out and
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I think it is getting out because you have a communicator,
I think the best in the country. And you know,
I'm at this point in time not ready to make
a full endorsement of Gavin Newsom for president, but pretty close.
I think he is by far the best communicator we
have that could be president. And you know it, it
to me is so important for California. And you know
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this is another thing too, David. I think California gets
ripped off because you know, they don't come number one
in the primaries. They don't, they don't end up because
of the way the time zone works that the elections
are usually already taken care of by the middle of
the Middle country, you know, places like Wisconsin and Minnesota
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and so forth, and in the Midwest. So it's great
to have California recognize for all the progressive legislation, you know,
for all the folks from Sajar Chavez to Maxine Waters
to all the great leaders You've had. Talk to me
a little bit about that, because I know you you
you have a tremendous pride of what both CTA have
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done and and a lot of the California progressive history too.
Speaker 26 (01:28:18):
Yeah, I look, and I do want to state that also,
it took work right California. As I said in that
when I was growing up California frankly led the racist backlash.
Speaker 13 (01:28:31):
In this nation.
Speaker 7 (01:28:32):
William right, Yeah, and I think so.
Speaker 26 (01:28:35):
I think it's taken decades now really building and really
building grassroots infrastructure to really be the people we are today.
I know that it's also taken a real switch in
our thinking about what it means to be an educator.
That we fight around our salaries and our healthcare, but
we also fight around class sizes, the issues you bring up,
(01:28:58):
around issues around access to education, the nurses. You know,
we've seen strikess. I'll just uplift for example, the striking
until thirty seconds, Yeah, which really was framed it was
common good bargaining, which was not just about our salary healthcare,
but really putting our contract and really what it does
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for the common good of our communities. And that's been
something that we've all played our part. It's been a
long transition. I said that we weren't always here because
we're gonna have to win this in every part of
the state.
Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
I agree with you.
Speaker 14 (01:29:29):
Thank you so much for spending time with us today. Sorry,
but we couldn't get you on as fast as we could.
We'll make sure we'll do that again soon. David Goldberg,
President of California Teaching Association, thank you so very much.
Keep on fighting Prop fifty folks got a vote yes
on November fourth.
Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
Thank you man, appreciate you. We'll be right back. It's
the Jeff Santo Show.
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Speaker 14 (01:33:32):
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We're also so happy.
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In celebrating now another week in southern California in sam
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just happens to be one of the bigger cities. In
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where the signal in Greater Los Angeles comes from. It
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is so great to have the senator on the show. Welcome,
it's a real pleasure to have you on. And I
know you shout out to a lot of listeners at
casey AA as well.
Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
Good afternoon, Senator, Good afternoon Jack.
Speaker 12 (01:35:17):
Pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 14 (01:35:19):
It's a pleasure to be with you. You know, your
accomplishments are pretty amazing, and I want to talk to
you a little bit about all of them in a minute.
But you may have heard the last interview he did
with mister Goldberg and the importance of the election coming
up on November fourth, and the referendum of Prop fifty,
(01:35:42):
and I want to get your take on this because
the ability to win the House is so critical for
the other forty eight states, including California, because of the cutbacks,
because of Donald Trump, because of what is happening where
yesterday we talked to friends at the Seiu and Age Union,
(01:36:03):
where people are going from Starbucks lines, you know, for
four or five dollars a cup of cappuccino, you know, frappucino,
to the soup line where people are just trying to
get by to the next lunch, the next dinner, the
next day, and all of this is at the voting roles.
(01:36:26):
And your thoughts about the importance of Prop fifty not
only for your great state of California, but for the
rest of the nation.
Speaker 12 (01:36:35):
Yes, no, absolutely, you know, at a time when democracy
is under attack, we cannot.
Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Afford to be complacent.
Speaker 12 (01:36:42):
And so you know, democracy only survives when we show up.
And so we're actively talking to folks voters across the state,
whether it's at the doors, on the phones and our
neighborhoods and our own family group chats and making sure
that folks know that we cannot allow this administration to
rig the next election. So we need a safeguard against that,
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and that is through Prop fifty. And we're seeing the
devastating cuts to working families, whether that is through cal
Fresh Snap, families are being affected, and this is a
way that we could say no, no more to these
devastating cuts, no more to massed agents rounding up families
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and including citizens and veterans alike.
Speaker 14 (01:37:32):
We are talking with Senator Sabrina Savantes of the Inland Empire,
Riverside and Elsa, Rito and many other communities in her district,
and it is so important for people to understand, folks
that LA in the greater Southern California area is not
just Hollywood and Hollywood sign and a bunch of people
(01:37:53):
going to red carpets in the Academy Awards. This is
a group of people, working class, middle class.
Speaker 7 (01:38:00):
We just talked to Dave Goldberg of many of his
teachers who live.
Speaker 14 (01:38:03):
In southern California and Central Valley and northern California too,
you know, and you need people who are going to
fight for them, and Senator Sarantes has done just that
with over six hundred million again talking about voter suppression issues,
talking about making sure people have access to the vote,
and these are all critical issues, Senator, and I wanted
(01:38:25):
to get your thoughts, you know, and the redistricting fight,
you know, to be able to get everybody a chance
to vote, and everybody a chance to vote either by mail.
Speaker 7 (01:38:37):
Or at the voting booth.
Speaker 14 (01:38:40):
All of these things to me are just so critical
as a fundamental base of democracy. But they're all being
challenge right now. You've obviously have worked very hard with
your colleagues to do just that. As I said, about
six hundred million dollars, some of that goes into to
voter protection and so forth. Talk to me about that,
because this is a big issue. We're going to be
talking Greg Palace tomorrow, who is an investigative journalist on
(01:39:03):
the issue of voter suppression around the country. California, guy
from LA give me your thoughts.
Speaker 12 (01:39:12):
So you know, I'm honored to be the chair of
the Senate Elections and Constitutional Amendments Committee, and I take
that responsibility seriously because it is our task to protect
our fundamental right to vote and ensure that our democracy
remains strong and resilient. And so I believe that, you know,
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we need to continue improving public trust in our elections,
and it's never been more urgent, especially as this administration
continues to spread this dangerous misinformation about elections integrity, particularly
here in the state of California, which is why we
had to work hard through the legislative front, where we
(01:39:55):
were able to get key bills signed into law that
I authored to really push back against not just the
power grab under this administration, but also against any federal
interference in our elections, which is why I was urging
to get SB eight fifty one through to strengthen California's
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defenses against that. And we just heard right the usdj
will be coming in and monitoring five different Registrar of
Voter sites in California. And my bill that is in effect,
will prohibit armed and uniformed federal agents from posting up
(01:40:38):
at voting locations. So if there is uniformed ICE or
CVP agents attempting to engage at voting locations, they will
be held liable, there will be criminal penalties, and so
we needed to just make sure that we got those
across the finish line. We will make sure that we
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protect the voices voters in California.
Speaker 20 (01:41:01):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (01:41:02):
And you know, we were able to pass really important
legislation UH this year, and we'll continue to work on
legislation next year as we enter the second year of
a two year session.
Speaker 14 (01:41:16):
It is so important and it's great that you know,
you have experience in the Assembly now in the Senate
for several years. UH, and it's so important to have,
you know, your experience growing up.
Speaker 21 (01:41:27):
UH.
Speaker 14 (01:41:27):
You know, it's important that people you know, you know,
you're part of the LGBT community. Uh, you're you're a Latina.
You know, it is important because a lot of cases.
Uh you look at Trump and he has attacked people,
you know, in your community, and not just in California
(01:41:48):
but all around the country.
Speaker 15 (01:41:50):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (01:41:50):
Talk to me about it as a Latina, as somebody
who's an lgbt Q person.
Speaker 7 (01:41:55):
It to me.
Speaker 14 (01:41:56):
Is so so vicious and sad that you know, people
are judged by the color of their skin or by
their sexual orientation.
Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
In twenty twenty five, my god.
Speaker 14 (01:42:10):
You know MLK talked about this in nineteen sixty three,
nineteen sixty that's sixty two years ago, but yet we're
still dealing with this.
Speaker 12 (01:42:21):
Tell us your story, right if yeah, no, absolutely, and
you know I will go back and share that. You know,
I used to be the director of a California voter project,
and so I've worked for many years to not just
register voters across the state, but I fundamentally believe that
you know, when more voices are heard, that benefits democracy, right,
(01:42:43):
that is how we best function. And so for me,
as when I was once the youngest Latina elected to
the state legislature, but as an openly Latina elected to
the state Senate, you know, my background and experience has
formed you know, how I approach policy and the work
(01:43:04):
that I do. And I believe it's important that you know,
we we lend our hand in that fight, right, And
so when I come together with my colleagues and I
get to share my lived experiences is how we expand
the voices in government. I was just with a group
(01:43:26):
of young college students where I was able to share
with them that you know, decisions don't just happen in
the halls of government. It happens at your own dinner table,
right when you're talking to your own family. So when
folks feel disconnected, it is up to us to share
the connection and connect the dots because what is happening
(01:43:49):
in our communities is very deep and we're filling it
every day, which is why I'm so committed to the
work that I am doing and will continue to do.
You know, this year alone, we were able not just
to strengthen the foundation of our democracy and protect our
most vulnerable voices in our communities, but we're able to
really also look at how do we make education more
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accessible for our immigrant students. We have the largest immigrant
and documented population in the state of California, so what
are we doing to support their efforts in achieving the
goals higher learning? And I feel like I was in
a student too long ago, so I feel like I
could resonate and talk to those students who feel disconnected
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and getting them back into why it is so important
to make sure their voice is heard not just in
local county politics, but you know, at the state level
and also in Washington, d C. Which comes back to
Prop fifty and why it's so important for them to
be involved and to make sure that they cast that
vote before November fourth.
Speaker 14 (01:44:58):
Well, I tell you, you know, this is your first time
on the program, and we look forward to having you
on again and again because your voice needs to be heard.
And if you consider a statewide office at some point
in your career, I know that we would love to
have you on and talk about that for the entire
the entire state, and for that matter, the country. Here
(01:45:18):
as well, let me talk to you a little bit
about what I think is kind of the horror show
that is going on around the country with these cutbacks
a little bit because, as I said, you know, when
somebody goes from Starbucks to soup lines, Starbucks lines to
soup lines, you know it, it really tugs at you.
(01:45:42):
And you know a lot of our callers were talking
yesterday and listeners to the to the words of Lee Blackman,
who is the federal director for sci u n Age
and all those government workers.
Speaker 7 (01:45:56):
They work closely with AFGE.
Speaker 14 (01:45:58):
As well, and you know, she beside herself that this
is what's happening, that you know, Trump came in, you know,
with an axe and is continuing to do this and
now we're looking at days of snap being cut off
and so on, and the insurance and so.
Speaker 7 (01:46:11):
On when you talk about you know, and this I.
Speaker 14 (01:46:16):
Was saying this earlier to David Goldberg at President of
the CTA. You know, I'm glad California is first and
people are getting this attention on Prop fifty because there
are a lot of people who are very progressive in
col I lived in Long Beach, I've lived in San Francisco,
I've lived in Venice Beach. I've lived in a lot
of different places, and you know, north north of San
(01:46:38):
Diego and Carlsbad, and you know, I had great experience
in California, as you know, a lot of amazing people,
not just intellectual you know, PhDs and multiple degrees, but
people who really care about the communities. And I think
it's so important to highlight what you are doing, what
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your colleagues are doing in the states and in the Assembly,
what Governor Newsom is doing. And I think this is
really important. I'm really glad that California has a spotlight
on them because it really needs to be shown. Talk
to me about your pride in the Golden State and
your pride in how people, you know, need to look
(01:47:22):
at what has happened, because you don't always get that
because we're always focused on these stupid swing state scenarios.
And there's great people in Michigan and Wisconsin. We talked
to our good friend John Nichols, is the native of Madison,
and they're fantastic. But I think it's important that, you know,
I mean, I come from Massachusetts has got a great
progressive tradition too, as does New York and so forth.
But I think it's important because California is, you know,
(01:47:46):
it's the largest state in the country and what is
it the fifth largest economy, fourth largest economy in the world.
But yet you know, the rest of the nation looks
at it and it's like yoah, well, you know they're
they're just doing their great things and convertibles in Hollywood
and you know, and that's that's all it. Yain, And
of course Trump just you know, pounds on that stuff.
So talk to me about, you know, the importance of
(01:48:07):
Because of your legislation, because of the legislation of your colleagues,
California has led the nation on the issue. I mean,
you turned around the smog. I mean, that's just amazing stuff.
On environment, on education, on a lot of things, your.
Speaker 12 (01:48:21):
Thoughts, absolutely, and I'm proud of our state's ability to
lead and lead the nation on so many different policy issues.
But you know, right now, what we see the biggest
need is around food security because of this federal shutdown,
(01:48:45):
which we don't even have. There's no side and end
to it, right, and so we need to make sure
that we are doing what we can to support Californians
during their most trying time, especially as we are nearing
the holiday season. And so we're proud that we were
able to fast track eighty million dollars for food banks
(01:49:07):
across our state, and we're actually using the National Guard
and California volunteers have been deployed to food banks across
our state to support so many families, including our military families.
You know, starting November one, that card will not get
(01:49:27):
those CalFresh recipients are not going to see any money
placed on their card. That is, five point five million
Californians who typically receive benefits will not get that assistance
until this shutdown is over. And so we know that counties,
including Riverside County today dance of this expected delay, and
(01:49:52):
so we need to make sure that we continue to
step up and show other states what it means to
lead and how we deployer National Guard during the most
trying times. In my district alone, we have one hundred
and thirty six thousand colfresh recipients. One hundred and thirty
six thousand recipients, And so I know what this means
(01:50:13):
for my communities out here in the Inland Empire, and
my colleagues know what it means for their own constituencies.
And so I'm grateful for our governor who has led
on many fronts, and so just we need to continue
to stay focused and respond to the needs of our constituencies,
and I will continue to do that here in my
(01:50:35):
role as a state senator.
Speaker 14 (01:50:37):
We're talking with Senator Sabrina Servantes, a rising star in
the world of California politics, but more importantly, somebody cares
about her community and has put it front and center
for people in Riverside and the Inland Empire.
Speaker 7 (01:50:53):
As she has described.
Speaker 14 (01:50:56):
You know, I want to invite you on again, Senator,
as move forward here in the final minutes, but I
must tell you I think you have a great press
team on top of it all that you gave us
a lot of stuff to talk about and won't be
able to cover all of it. But I think that,
you know, providing the money at the state level, you know,
(01:51:20):
to people who need it, whether it's the education, whether
it's the food stuff.
Speaker 7 (01:51:23):
You know, and of course.
Speaker 14 (01:51:25):
Housing is a major issue in the state, that matter
around the country, and it's you know, and I'm glad
that the language has gone from homelessness to houselessness because
in a lot of cases, you know, people have a home,
it's just that they can't afford to live in the
house that is the home. So talk to me about that,
because I know that's been a fight. You know, a
(01:51:46):
lot of people may not be aware of it, a
big one, you know.
Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Over the last several years.
Speaker 14 (01:51:52):
Talk to me about where you think this fight is
going and what needs to happen for California residents.
Speaker 12 (01:52:01):
Does it relates to housing in particular as.
Speaker 14 (01:52:04):
It relates to housing rent, you know, just did the
cost of housing for so many people in the state.
Speaker 12 (01:52:14):
What we were able to continue putting additional monies through
the HAPP funding, which is our Homelessness, Housing Assistance and
Prevention program. We gave an additional five hundred million for
that next round funding that our cities and counties need
right in order to address our homelessness crisis, and that
(01:52:36):
will continue to be my commitment and as I know
it will be for my colleagues and the legislature as
while given our housing challenges, the Inland Empire is actually
the fastest growing region, not just in the entire state,
but in the entire nation. And so some of the
work that I've been able to do because a lot
of my work surrounds health higher edusing in our student population.
(01:53:02):
And so we were able to pass the first of
its kind in our state, joint housing project between you
see Riverside and Riverside Community College District to provide student housing,
affordable student housing. We were able to allocate one hundred
and twenty six million dollars in their state budget for that.
Students just got housed there. They're in their fifth week,
(01:53:24):
and so you know, these are the type of projects
that we need to see continued investment in across our state.
I think the inn Empire is really just share shaping
that narrative, and we are hoping that will follow in
(01:53:44):
other communities across the state, but in the across the nation.
Right the decisions that we are making here and out
of Sacramento is impacting millions of people, and we are
setting that trend, as you said, not just in housing policy,
but climate policy, right in socialist issues.
Speaker 14 (01:54:08):
Absolutely, I want to want to one more before we
before we end our segment again, we'd love to have
you back on the issue of MAP and talk to
us about the Military Articulation Platform and how you're helping veterans.
(01:54:28):
For a lot of people who don't know what that's
all about, give us a little bit of a background
here in the final couple of minutes.
Speaker 12 (01:54:36):
Absolutely so, Military Articulation Platform. This is something we've been
working on for a number of years to help our
student veterans returning from service to for their skills and
prior learning into college course credits. This was something that
was first implemented at Norco Community College. Now it is
implemented across seventy six different campuses our community college system
(01:55:01):
and is now a model for prior learning across the
entire nation. And so I'm grateful for the work that
has been done. We've put in millions of dollars to
scale this out to the entire state. I've spoken to
so many veterans who have shared their direct experience and
how this has helped them transition and how they were
(01:55:22):
able to not just get credit for prior learning, but
they are now into the workforce, and you know, it's
just brings me so much joy as someone who has
a background my family who has served in the military
as well. I'm just grateful for the commitment that we
put into this program and the countless amount of veterans
(01:55:45):
we've been able to assist through MAP, and so I
know that we have more work to do, at least
for the nearly one million veterans in our state and
look forward to doing that.
Speaker 14 (01:55:57):
Well, you know with what Trump's foreign polish she is,
and we had on Larry Korb and Brian Garvey yesterday.
Corba cours is the former Deputy Defense Secretary under Reagan
now at the Center of American Progress and Brian Garvey
as Massachusetts Peace Action the Peace Action community, and they
are just beside themselves in in this whole effort in
both the the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico. With
(01:56:21):
what's happening with Venezuela and the shootings there and the killings,
you know, an American military are in their way and
also just It's one other thing that we talked about
yesterday with Larry In a couple of weeks ago, as
a guy who's a Vietnam Vet himself, you know, is
that they're they're they're they're making a mockery of the
(01:56:42):
role of the military in these cities. They're picking up
garbage in Washington, d c uh Larry sar At first
hating himself.
Speaker 7 (01:56:49):
He lives in the nation's capital. You know.
Speaker 14 (01:56:52):
This is the other thing too that we need to
bring to the light, is that we're not using the military,
you know, you know, in in a way in which
was to them. And as you know when when John
McCain was alive, the senator from Arizona, you know, he said,
I don't like people who who got caught by the enemy.
I mean, it's just really degradating. And I know that
(01:57:12):
this means a lot to because you have family in
the military. Your quick thoughts on on where we stand
and how this dangers in dangers are are fighting men
and women.
Speaker 12 (01:57:25):
It is degragating and that is certainly not how you know,
how we should be doing things. You know, I certainly
and focus on the work that we're doing here in California,
and you know, this is actually where we get things done,
and this is how we're we're uplifting our veterans throughout
the state. And I just I'm hopeful that things will
(01:57:45):
turn around. But again, I really want to make sure
voters and Californians know that we are here to uplift
the nearly forty million Californians and my office is always
here to be of assistance and to continue doing the
good work. And it's it's about collaboration, you know, as
you mentioned all the good work that we've done collectively.
(01:58:07):
No meaningful change happens alone. Right sure takes to take
the village, and we will continue to do that work together.
Speaker 14 (01:58:17):
It's a real pleasure to have you on. Senator Sabrina
Cervantes represents the thirty first district of the State Senate,
including communities from El Crito to Riverside, Good Hope and
Meadowbrook and so on and so forth. I couldn't name
all the towns enough time, but many of them. Thank
you so very much, Senator, look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 12 (01:58:42):
Certainly, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7 (01:58:46):
We just have a minute here before we go to break.
Speaker 14 (01:58:49):
We can quickly get a call in to our good
friend John in Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (01:58:55):
John, I know you spent some time.
Speaker 14 (01:58:56):
In California and in the West and New mex To
Go and so forth. It's I think really important to
hear the folks representing California, both as as a UH
teacher and of course the California Teachers Association as well
as a senator. Any quick comments, Uh, not really, No,
(01:59:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (01:59:24):
It's okay, no worries. We appreciate it.
Speaker 14 (01:59:27):
Anyways, Well, thank you, I appreciate it. We'll talk to
you in the next hour. It is the Jeff Santo Show.
We'll come right back with Governor O'Malley and the former
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Two.
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And of course we heard from a new and I
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chance to chat with her again as well. We go
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from the West coast to the East coast with the
former mayor of Baltimore, a former governor of Maryland, and
last time this nation has had a Commissioner of Social
Security compared to the looney bin that's now in front
of us thanks to Donald Trump. Our good friend, Governor
Martin O'Malley joins us on the phone. Governor, great to
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have you back, a pleasure, pleasure to have you on
this new Thursday lineup that we have, and of course
your good friend and mine FDR's grandson, Jim.
Speaker 7 (02:08:41):
Roosevelt will follow you.
Speaker 14 (02:08:43):
So it is a fantastic hour not only to talk
about social security, but to talk about democratic politics as well.
Speaker 7 (02:08:51):
Governor. Great to have you back with us. Hello, Hey, Jeff,
thank you.
Speaker 31 (02:08:55):
It's good to be with you. I'm talking to you
from Charleston, South Caro And where I was campaigning with
the candidate running for Congress here named Mac the Ford,
who was a social security champion. He's running in what
in the district that Nancy Mace has represented not so
very well, and so we were doing we did three
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crowded town halls all about social security down here in
different parts of the district and then the low country.
And it's great to be with you. And I'm always
honored to be a warm up act for Annie Roosevelt,
especially Jim Roosevelt. So good to be with you for
a few minutes here. I'm going to beg your indulgence
eggs at a little before the half hours up, but anywhere.
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Good to be with you talking social security.
Speaker 14 (02:09:42):
Huh yeah, indeed, well let's start right where you are.
What was the reaction of people, you know, to to
the candidate and to yourself when they talk about the
fact that Social Security, you know, is being chopped and
people are being laid off left and right. You know,
I would to one in Massachusetts. You know there was
one person at the counter. That person was disabled. You know,
(02:10:06):
it's it's just, you know, it's just incredible. What is happening.
What was the reaction when you talk to them about
what is happening in nine months since the psychopath has
taken over and I'm wondering.
Speaker 7 (02:10:21):
You know, how alarm they are about this.
Speaker 14 (02:10:24):
What was the reaction when you went back and forth
on the question and answers, yeah.
Speaker 31 (02:10:32):
I mean right now, you know, this issue is one
of the things I said today and everybody's head was nodding,
and or maybe mac the Ford said it. I forget
which of us said it. But it used to be
that we could when on that day of the month
when we usually got our Social Security benefit direct deposits
that have that we would assume that it was always there.
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We had that peace of mind. But because of the
wrecking ball, these guys have taken to the operations of
Social Security, the numbers of people that they have pushed
out of the agency, reducing its staff by a greater
amount and a shorter period of time than ever before.
People everybody nodded when I said, I'll bet you you
go on and you open your app and look into
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your account and see if it's there, and you do
it with a little bit of bated breath. Oh thank goodness,
it still came this month. So the good news is
one of them that the democracy is very focused.
Speaker 7 (02:11:30):
On this issue.
Speaker 31 (02:11:31):
They know that the people know that Trump and Doge
and Mousque before them have been messing with Social Security
and this is one of those issues, unlike others in
our public debates, that is actually supported by eighty percent
of people. So when the democracy rises up as they
did when the Doge boys wanted to place the whole
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lot of Social Security offices on the chopping block and said, hey,
give us the best offer we want to these buildings,
the people called their congress people. Congress people both parties
pushed back and they said, okay, we're not going to
do that anymore. And similarly, when they said they wanted
to cut half of their IT staff, and some of us,
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like myself and also George Bush's Commissioner of Social Security,
said hey, you were endangering benefits and creating a high
risk of a benefit interruption. They pulled back so and
then MOA. Recently they said they were going to cut
off paper checks for the half a million Americans who
received the benefits they've earned in paper. But I think
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they pushed back from that. Maybe that was just a saint.
It's interesting that they said at the same time that
it was announced that the current commissioner's former company, five
Serve was going to get the contract after skipping over
the top bidder and the second bidder pulling out, it's
going to get the contract for the direct express debit cards.
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That he was telling unbankable people in poor and rural
areas they have to go get it.
Speaker 22 (02:13:05):
So, yeah, you can't make it up.
Speaker 31 (02:13:07):
It doesn't conflict his interest. But perhaps we've made them
pull back from that because a lot of congress people
have problems with that once they heard from the public
and homeless providers, people who provide homeless services, because oftentimes
it's homeless people that prefer to have you know, they're
check mailed to the one stable address they might have,
which might be in a given city, you know, Catholic
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charities or some other organization like that. So people are focused.
They know It's a long slog, but I'm I'm encouraged
that the crowds we saw. I do believe that the
way they're messing with Social Security has rubbed a lot
of people the wrong way, and the democracy is alert
to the threat.
Speaker 7 (02:13:48):
Well, I tell you, I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 14 (02:13:50):
And and look, you know an article an ARP you know,
talks about Social Security administration right now, I mean disability
claims that could deny benefits to hundreds of thousands of
people and disproportionately affect older adults according to this article.
Speaker 31 (02:14:09):
And you know, I mean, ah, good, I mean, I'm
glad you saw it.
Speaker 7 (02:14:12):
Good.
Speaker 31 (02:14:13):
Not good that they're doing that, but I'm glad, No,
I'm glad are he is putting it out there too.
Speaker 14 (02:14:18):
Yes, exactly, and thank you for that. I think it's
Sharon Jason who wrote the article. This to me is
just disgusting. You know, again, as an American, we've seen
and we were talking yesterday with our friends at SEIU
and AGE and they were talking about the cutbacks to
election to federal workers not far from you know, your
communities and in obviously in Maryland and every state in
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the country, and what is happening there, you know, the
line that came out of of the Age Sei un
Age federal director one by name of Lee Blackman. She
was telling us that, you know, these these workers who
would go to the Starbucks line, you know, four five
(02:15:00):
dollars for a special coffee or whatever.
Speaker 7 (02:15:03):
They're now at a soup line.
Speaker 14 (02:15:04):
They now, you know, needing to worry about the first
meal of the day, the second meal of the day,
and just to survive. And this is America and twenty
twenty five, Governor, this should not be in the richest
country in the world. And yet we are treating people
who are full time workers who are trying to do
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the best thing for the government. They don't you don't
work in government. You don't work as a federal government employee,
you know, to make millions. There there are other avenues
if that's what your goal is. And you know, and
and they are being treated as as Donald Trump has
treated a lot of people unless they're the part of
the one percent or the people who who he gets
money from, you know, like like garbage. And you know
(02:15:50):
it it. We talked to yesterday to Larry cor Reagan's
deputy Defense secretary. You know, a Vietnam Vett, a guy
who was a Reagan's deputy Defense secretary, and he's seeing
that people in military are picking up garbage in the
streets of Washington, DC.
Speaker 7 (02:16:04):
You know this is it's degradation to the capnaging guardsmen.
Speaker 31 (02:16:09):
Yeah, I've seen some of those National guardsmen. They give
you glances through your windshielders. They're walking across in front
of you, like, hey, man, I don't want to be
here either. It's horrible the way he abuses our armed
forces and treats them like theres little his little pawns.
Can we talk a little Let's go a little deeper
on that disability regulation that ARP is.
Speaker 7 (02:16:30):
Can the alarm bell about?
Speaker 26 (02:16:32):
So?
Speaker 31 (02:16:32):
The disability program was brought into existence in nineteen fifty three,
the disability aspect of social security and Dwight Eisenhower, the
great Republican President who said any party to touch his
social security will not be a party much longer. That
president signed the disability portion so that if you catch
a disability, you're injured on the job, you can't work,
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you should be able to apply if you've worked a
requisite number of years for your disability insurance that you've
earned right now because of the staff reductions across the
board really House Republicans driving staffing at Social Security and
the fifty Disability Examiner offices in each of the fifty states.
It now takes longer than ever to get that initial
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disability determination. We started to finally get on top of
the backlog and start to push it down. It's still
going down, but instead of taking one hundred and twenty days,
it now takes. Like I'm here in South Carolina, it
takes three hundred and sixty eight days for your initial
disability allowance or denial, and then if you appeal it,
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you go back to the same office for another three
hundred and sixty eight days. So more people now die
Jeff awaiting their initial disability determination than ever before in
the history of the program. And so what is the
Trump administration's response to that. They want to change the
regulations to make it harder for people over fifty to
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be granted an allowance. In other words, they want to
change the regulations that used to give in the consideration
of the number of factors they used to consider age
if you're above fifty and you get a disability. The
logic and the policy and the compassionate policy was that
it's harder for you to find other work and harder
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for you to be retrained and rehired in a different job.
If you are over fifty, well they want to do
away with that and estimates very but it's anywhere from
thirty to forty percent fewer people over age fifty that
will get those disability allowances that they've earned. And oh,
by the way, as most of your callers know, if
you're under fifty, I mean, if you're fifty, but if
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you're not sixty five, you don't have Medicare yet either.
So that's the regulation they're pushing. Trying to again take
another wrecking ball to Social Security, taking a chunk here
a chunk. They're reducing its staff to skeleton staff. You
can either believe the Trump administration when it says it's
never been better. You can believe you're lying eyes while
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walking into your own field office in your community and
you'll see ten windows, but only two of them open
because of the reductions of staff. It makes no sense
people already paid for it, if it doesn't add a
dime to the deficit. If they allow Social Security to
go back up to the easily one point two percent
overhead that they used to have when they provided a
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high rate of customer service. So that's kind of the
state of play.
Speaker 7 (02:19:32):
Jeff.
Speaker 31 (02:19:32):
There was another article today about the fact that the
current Commissioner of Social Security it within all of the
financial reportings he had a company called fire Serve, the
same one that recently got the direct Express debit cards
that he's telling people they have to go to suppose
his stock. A company called Fireserve took forty four percent
(02:19:58):
drop hit in their stock when the new CEO revealed
that they had grossly overestimated their projected earnings to their
shareholders and investors just shortly before the current Commissioner of
Social Security left the agency and then sold his stock
(02:20:20):
for a value that's twice what it's worth today now
that they had to admit that they over stated their earnings.
So there you go. That's the good, the bad, the ugly.
The good is that people are alert to this, and
so I thank you for having Jim Roosevelt on a beg.
Speaker 7 (02:20:35):
You allow me to go.
Speaker 31 (02:20:36):
I've got to go and get through airport and security
and catch a plane and the like.
Speaker 7 (02:20:42):
But social we're scurity.
Speaker 31 (02:20:44):
Alive and well only because the people of America are
defending it. So people need to stay vigilant and tell
their congress people hands off Social Security, tell hump to
stop taking a recon well.
Speaker 5 (02:20:55):
To the program.
Speaker 14 (02:20:57):
Exactly, it's so great to do it, and just add
a couple of things. Call Congress two O two two
two five thirty one twenty one is the Capitol Hill switchboard.
You can doctor the senator, you can talk to the congressman,
congress person, and you know, do your job as a
citizen and make sure there's a watchdog on this administration
which is obviously out of control. Uh, governor, great to
(02:21:18):
have you on. We look forward, save travels back man.
Appreciate you, Thank you, Thank you, Governor. O'Malley, former Commissioner
of Social Security under the Biden administration. All you people
who would tell me that, oh Biden is this, Biden
is that? Now look what you have? You know, this
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is the point. And again I was actually one of
the people early on, just after twenty twenty two, when
the results were not that good, even though some consultants
were telling.
Speaker 7 (02:21:46):
Us, oh yeah it was, we didn't get blown away.
Speaker 14 (02:21:48):
As if that's a really a thing to cheer about. Please,
that should have been the time when when President Biden
did some good things, he reached out. He was at
sixty percent approval ratings with help from Bernie Sanders and
the American rescue plan that is out of the pandemic disaster.
That first Trump did, you know, didn't have any idea
(02:22:09):
what was going on. Finally people got to him. Of course,
it was a Democratic House at that point in twenty
nineteen and twenty that forced some legislation that eventually got
as the vaccinations and so forth. I give Trump for
moving that forward, and it was but the vaccinations took
place in January under our friend President Biden. But you know,
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if he would have given an off in twenty twenty
three or early twenty twenty four to an open primary
and whether Harris would have won or whomever, you would
have had a much different scenario.
Speaker 7 (02:22:41):
And now we have Trump in office. Just a thought, but.
Speaker 14 (02:22:44):
Again, just think an O'Malley in Social Security in Washington
right now. You wouldn't be having these conflict of interests
with DeFi serve with the new Social Security Commissioner. You
wouldn't have disability on the edge of the cliff for
those over the age of fifty. All these things it's
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how you vote, folks. And that's why I went back
to you know, the importance and the California folks that
we had on today and Senator of Savantes and as
well as the California Teaching Association President David Goldberg. They
both understand how critical it is, what the ramifications is
are if you don't pass Prop fifty in California and
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the rest of the country. As what the lines in
the late sixties in the Chicago Democratic Convention, the.
Speaker 7 (02:23:35):
Whole world is watching. The whole world is watching. I
was twenty five years old at the time.
Speaker 14 (02:23:39):
But the point is is that, you know, the fact
is this the Democratic Party is when it's bold and
it's progressive, like it is when it was under Roosevelt
right through to you know, Johnson, before Vietnam when everything
kind of fell up art and now a little bit
(02:24:01):
of Obama, a little bit of Biden. You know, we
have done some good things for this country. We just
need to communicate it better and we need to push
for bold issues.
Speaker 7 (02:24:09):
Who can't do half measures either.
Speaker 14 (02:24:11):
That's some reasons of why the Senate, you know, and
and particularly the leadership there has been in my opinion,
you know, not ready for prime time and not bold
enough on the bold initiatives, and you know, you know,
better candidates and so on and so forth. That's why
I really like Planter in Maine, you know, because he
(02:24:31):
could win that race right now, fifteen points ahead of Collins.
You know, you get behind him, put the right people
around him, he could be a real star in the making.
And you know, again, Mills is not a bad candidate,
but I think seeing Platinir is better. And he reaches people.
And that's an important thing. Is if you're going to
be having somebody in the Senate and a key vote,
(02:24:52):
that you're going to be able to.
Speaker 7 (02:24:53):
Rely on them.
Speaker 14 (02:24:54):
And I think Mills would be a reliable vote. But
you want somebody who's pushing, not just sort of staying
behind and saying, yeah, I'll vote yes, but I'll vote no.
But the point is is that you want somebody who
is you know, what, did.
Speaker 7 (02:25:11):
Sarah Palen say, She's mavericky?
Speaker 14 (02:25:14):
In some cases you did need to be a maverick
or a pushing aka Bernie Sanders. So those are all
big issues as we move into twenty six. Democrats can
only going to win the House, which is so critical,
but also win the Senate.
Speaker 7 (02:25:30):
You can't do one without the other.
Speaker 14 (02:25:31):
They go hand in hand to apple pie and ice
cream as a positive. So this is to me something
that we need to really focus on. And if we
do that, I think we'll have a big, big victory
in November of twenty six. But we can't, you know,
start the full throttle. You know, Tom Warner of the
(02:25:53):
Red Sox owner of course, did Bill Cosby Show as
a producer and so forth. That's his back around Roseanne.
You know, he said that about the Red Sox and
they didn't do much on the full throttle department. They
finished I think in third place that year, a couple
of years ago. And the point is is that you
need to go full throttle, but you need to really
(02:26:14):
move in the direction where Americans are.
Speaker 7 (02:26:17):
And Americans are.
Speaker 14 (02:26:18):
Absolutely aghast at what Trump has done to everything from
the military and the military excursions, you know, with the
Velenezuela situation, that's just one small piece of the puzzle
to you know, today he's talking about, you know, testing
nuclear weapons.
Speaker 7 (02:26:37):
You know, this is out of control stuff.
Speaker 14 (02:26:39):
And then he comes back as all, I would like
to destroy them all and all. I mean, you know,
it's always this passive aggressive nonsense, but as unfortunate, the
nonsense becomes reality and people's lives are ruined in the process.
Speaker 7 (02:26:52):
You know, you got all of the.
Speaker 14 (02:26:54):
Issues on the domestic side again. We're going to look
to run the replay tomorrow. We will do that in
Los Angeles on KABC for the listeners there tomorrow evening
at seven pm or eight pm Pacific time. But we're
going to try to do that in the live show
as well, if not tomorrow, then sometime next week. And
(02:27:17):
I think it's important because a lot of people understand
when their neighbors, their relatives, their own family members are suffering.
They have good jobs at good wages, then Trump comes
and they're in soup lines from Starbucks to soup lines.
(02:27:39):
And I think that that to me is resonated and
resonating with a lot of our callers, and I think
that is an important piece of how we have to
remember what is at stake in this election. November fourth
in California for those who are voting in New York City,
and we're very excited to be going into the New
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York City on Monday on AM fifteen hundred w g
HT from three to six Eastern time, that's twelve to
three again Pacific time, and and and again across the country.
New Jersey in fact, the signal an AM fifteen hundred
gets into northern New Jersey, and of course is Virginia
as well with mss S. Bamberger. So lot a lot
(02:28:22):
of things going on. Next week, we'll be looking to
cover it all. We hope to be you know, talking
to people who are going to be new leaders of these.
Speaker 7 (02:28:33):
Of these states and then of these cities.
Speaker 14 (02:28:35):
In the case of Mamdani, a good friend her boyd
is trying to make that happen with an interview with
hopefully the new mayor of New York City in the
coming days and weeks. So we're excited about this, but
it's it's going to take a full team effort to
to basically keep the focus, the progressive populist focused on
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what is necessary for this country. And you know, we
can't Frankly, there is only one way to go, and
that's up. You know, we can't get any worse than
where we are right now. And frankly, it is time,
you know, for Democrats to continue to show spine, to
continue to show leadership, and to move beyond just that
(02:29:18):
Trump is evil. We all know that, and to offer
their own ideas. That's why I think the the election
of Mondani in New York City will open up a
lot a lot of things, some which may not necessarily
make it to the final stages of legislation in New
York City, but a lot of them will. And I
(02:29:38):
think he's going to change a lot of minds on
the issue of rent, on the issue of housing in general,
and a number of other things that he's talking about,
food security, etc. All right, Jim Roosevelt, grandson of FDR,
co chair of the DNC Rules Committee, We'll be with
us on video after this time.
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We are here every Monday through Friday from three to
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a couple of minutes, and of course Jim Roosevelt, the
grandson of the fantastic FDR. We should follow that FDR pathway.
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And of course we're also talking to the dnc CoA chair.
Speaker 7 (02:34:15):
Of the Rules and Bylaws Committee. We'll be with us momentarily.
Speaker 14 (02:34:19):
We have lost my video as well, and we'll get
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well on the Jeff Santos Show dot com. You can
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We're very excited about being in the city in northern
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to to hundreds of thousands of people as we move
along here. Kevin, just to let you know, we don't
have I don't have a video feed, so I'm going
to have to work on that too.
Speaker 7 (02:35:19):
So well as we work on there we go.
Speaker 14 (02:35:27):
It is always good to be seen and heard at
the same time as we have a great opportunity as.
Speaker 7 (02:35:35):
We always will do a weekly here on the.
Speaker 14 (02:35:38):
Jeff Santo Show with the grandson of the fantastic FDR,
said it a hundred times, if not more, that we
need to pull together a coalition. That FDR did and
won four elections and all of them were I wouldn't
say easy. Nothing is easy in the political world, but
they weren't close either.
Speaker 7 (02:35:59):
That's the roadmap, that's what we have to do.
Speaker 14 (02:36:01):
The twenty first century version of the Bill of Rights
that he talked about in nineteen forty four, and of
course he passed away a year later. He never could
acknowledge them, and people like Alan Minsky and our good
friend Harvey k and others are talking about the twenty
first century Bill of Rights. All that, and our friend
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mister Jim Roosevelt, attorney at law at Vero Law and
of course the dnc CO Chair of the Rules and
Bylaws Committee. He joins us from his home in Cambridge.
So good to see you, Jim. Happy Thursday, my friend.
Speaker 7 (02:36:38):
Great to see you Jeff as well. Fantastic.
Speaker 14 (02:36:42):
Well, I got to tell you we just spoke to
your counterparty, says Helo and Governor O'Malley. You know, the
more I see these Trumpers and what they're doing, it's
just an incredible AARP reports today about you know, thousands,
hundreds of thousands of people who could lose their benefits
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and disabilities, particularly those over the age of fifty. You know,
I just think of this. It's just it's just every
day you either pick up the paper or you read
a news clip, I know, a you know, an article online,
and it's just more destruction not only of what your
grandfather did, but of you know, decades upon decades of
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what the Democratic Party has done. And I don't know
how aggravating it is to somebody who is not only
a major part of the Democratic Party. But about what
your grandfather did, what your father did as congressman in
the great city of Los Angeles where.
Speaker 7 (02:37:46):
We are heard on KCAA right now.
Speaker 14 (02:37:49):
To me, this is this you gotta you gotta, You've
gotta be able to push back and push back hard
and do it non violently. But it to someone like you,
who has you know, fought for for decades to see
that your grandfather's ideas you know, are continued, it must
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be very frustrating.
Speaker 34 (02:38:12):
Well, I'm it's appalling actually that they will use starvation
to get their ideological program and acted. But I'm very
pleased at the way Democratic governors and Democratic attorneys general
are pushing back Democratic governors, and I feel very badly
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for people in the Red States where this is not happening.
Democratic governors are moving money around to continue what we
used to call food stamps we now call snap benefits
UH after tomorrow, but that only lasts for a limited
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period of time. Local charities and local city government says
here in Cambridge are also moving money around to pay
food benefits to people, and most importantly, the AGS. The
Democratic attorneys general are in court trying to show the
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illegality of this withholding of appropriated funds appropriated by the Congress,
who's supposed to have the power of the purse, that
the Constitution and the laws passed under it do not
seem to matter to mister Trump, and moreover, they don't
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matter to Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon and the other
people around him.
Speaker 7 (02:39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (02:39:50):
Now, this is a trioca of people who you know,
have nothing but contempt for a better way of life
for the average American, for the working class, and the
the h for hate unfortunately becomes a big part of
what is happening now. And you know, on and on
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and on we go. But I point to something else too.
You know, Reverend Jesse Jackson, you know who's going through
a difficult time now in Parkinson had his son on yesterday,
Congressman Jonathan Jackson, and you know, he said, we have
to keep we have to keep going. You know, his
father well known in nineteen eighty for saying keep hope
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alive in a lot of ways.
Speaker 7 (02:40:36):
I think that's so important. When we see and we.
Speaker 14 (02:40:38):
Had on our friends you know from Nage, Seiu and Age,
and we had a really an emotional interview with Lee Blackman,
and she is the federal director for our friend David
Holloway's group. And what she was saying is that they're
going from getting in line for Starbucks and you know,
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and they're expensive coffee at six seven bucks or whatever.
You know, you and I are the dunkin Donuts crap.
But the fact is as you go from there to
soup lines. And this is what federal workers and workers
in general, and of course the staff benefits were seeing
is going to see this too. And states that don't
have a democratic governor, and let me just tell you again,
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and you know this as well as anybody.
Speaker 7 (02:41:27):
The elections matter.
Speaker 14 (02:41:29):
You know, democratic governors around the country are unified, you know,
middle of the country, East and West. You know, we
don't have many in the South, but you know the
ones that are there and in North Carolina as example
of doing the right thing. And this has to be
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the way that we need to continue to go forward.
Speaker 34 (02:41:54):
Your thoughts, well, I saw an interview with a Republican
lawmaker a couple of days ago, and he was confronted
with the statistic that most people who get snap benefits
are employed, they just don't make enough money to buy
enough food for their family to last all month, and
his response will tell them to get a better job.
Speaker 7 (02:42:15):
Then you know, it's it's it's comments like that is
you know that really?
Speaker 14 (02:42:21):
You know, if we weren't on radio, I would I
would use the F bomb, but I don't want to
get fined and I don't want to, you know, do
something that uh.
Speaker 7 (02:42:32):
Takes away from the real issues.
Speaker 14 (02:42:34):
But this is what people, you know, are dealing with
when you have people who just don't care. Jim, they
don't care because if they did, we wouldn't be in
this situation. We wouldn't be having federal workers and sup lines,
we wouldn't be having snap benefit issues. And if you're
not a democratic state, we're an attorney general who's a
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Democrat as well.
Speaker 7 (02:42:56):
You're screwed. And this is where we are. And it's sad.
Speaker 34 (02:43:00):
So uh sometimes these spouses of politicians say the quiet
part out loud and we were all missed by when
Milania wore the shirt, wore the shirt that said I
don't care.
Speaker 12 (02:43:14):
Do you?
Speaker 7 (02:43:16):
Yeah? Yeah, now we know what it meant.
Speaker 14 (02:43:19):
Yes, well, good memory, I remember that too. I wouldn't
know where she is some days, but uh, you know,
the here's something else. And we're going talking with Jim
Roosevelt here on the Jeff Santo Show. The phone number
to join is A three three five four five five
three three three. I want to talk a little bit about,
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you know, some of these attorney generals, you know, doing
the right thing at Journey General Campbell here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (02:43:49):
This is to me important pieces of the puzzle. You know,
the lawsuits. You know, you're a barrister. You're a lawyer.
Speaker 14 (02:44:00):
When you're not on the uh, this is the political part.
And even in the political part, you have some legal responsibilities.
But you know, to me, we if we if we
don't have the courts, we're really out of you know,
complete control. And I want to ask you about, you know,
the situation with the Supreme Court and and the concerns
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we have there. Uh, you know, because they basically have
given him a Trump immunity to do anything he wants.
And I'm wondering if this would lead and your grandfather, uh,
you know, try to do something. And I don't know
if if the next president, maybe it's Gavin Newsom, who knows, well,
we'll try to do the same thing. You're not going
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to pack the courts, but you know, if you expand
the courts to one thing. But you know, you also
need to figure out because I don't know if there
is anybody you know, you would think Roberts, but his thing,
particularly to African Americans and voting suppression issues is completely
uh to the right of the Hill of the Hunt.
But I think that we need to have a plan
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going into twenty twenty nine, you know, to whether it's
eleven or thirteen members. And we also need to figure
out is there somebody maybe it's Barrett, you know, a
fellow Catholic. She was a notre dame. So maybe there's
something that will you know, click on your head. But
I think that that is a really important thing as
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we move forward here, and it should be discussed whether
it's in twenty six or up to twenty eight about
the Supreme Court, because you know, the Republicans always use that.
We don't talk about it much as Dems. Your thoughts, well,
I think.
Speaker 34 (02:45:42):
The Republicans, strategically, I'm not saying in principle what I'm
saying in strategies, I've.
Speaker 7 (02:45:50):
Done really well.
Speaker 34 (02:45:52):
They have the whole after they couldn't do what they
wanted to do when Trump's first term they sat back.
They didn't wait. They did Project twenty twenty five every day,
day in and day out, a different way of frustrating
people's rights, people's ability for food and shelter, and they
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worked on it every day. They came up with a
very comprehensive plan. Similarly, even earlier, under the advice of
a memo of a Republican appointee Supreme Court justice in
the nineteen eighties, Just Powell, they came up with a
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plan fulfilling the courts with right wing justices, in particular
the Supreme Court. We democrats, we progressives, said, oh yeah,
we got to vote for the good guys. By the way,
they'll appoint good people to the court. We didn't articulate
a plan for that, and we meant it, but most
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people didn't understand it. Most people didn't understand that when
you vote, when you vote for a progressive candidate, you
are voting not just for their programs, and you might
not agree with all of them, you might agree with
six out of ten or something like that, but you're
also voting on who will be on the courts. You're
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voting on who will have a lifetime appointment. Remember it's
not only the Supreme Court that gets lifetime appointments.
Speaker 2 (02:47:25):
It's every federal Circuit Court of Appeals judge and every
local federal district judge gets a lifetime appointment. So when
you vote for a Republican president and a Republican majority
in the Senate, you're voting for the long term future,
either for this country or against this country. And I
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don't think our people were sufficiently impressed early enough with
that consequence of how they vote.
Speaker 34 (02:47:57):
I mean, if we go back to, you know, to
take an example that I think I can use now
because it's far enough back when some of our people
voted for Ralph Nader, right, they voted Ralph Nader said
at the time, and I actually argued with him about this,
(02:48:18):
there's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrats
and the Republicans. That's why I'm running.
Speaker 14 (02:48:25):
Yeah, that kind of talk get, says George W. Bush
in the Iraq War and the worst economy since Herbert Hoover.
Speaker 7 (02:48:31):
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 34 (02:48:32):
The reality is that even then there was a lot
of difference. There's more difference now, but there was a
lot of difference between Democrats and Republicans, and that's not
to say that all the good ideas that Ralph Nader
believed in were embraced or embraced well enough by the
Democratic Party and our candidates back then. It's that on balance,
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they so much better embodied the principles of detecting people
from danger in their cars, of protecting people from degradation
of the environment, and all that so much better, and
that by confusing that with the Green with his Green Party.
(02:49:17):
And there are still some people who run on a
Green Party ticket, and yes they may be wonderful people
who have wonderful ideas. If they can't coalesce between someone
who can around someone who can win the election, they're
actually voting for the other side.
Speaker 7 (02:49:34):
They are. And you know, the coalition is the key thing.
Speaker 14 (02:49:37):
And you know, one of the things we have talked about,
and again we're talking with Jim Roosevelt here and if
you're watching, I'm taking off because the lights are too
damn hot to just like the rent is too damn high.
But you know, the thing is is that the coalition
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that again, and I keep saying this because you know,
when we get people like Meil Poindexter on the program
and others who are trying to bring moderates and progressives together.
And I keep reminding mel and others don't need the
reminder because they are they're aware of this too. But
to me, what happened in the early part of the
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Biden administration twenty twenty one, when he and Bernie Sanders
got together, they passed the.
Speaker 7 (02:50:26):
Emergency Relief Act.
Speaker 14 (02:50:29):
And I'm trying to think of the official name, but
you know this, this, to me was a perfect understanding
of how you can have progressives and moderates put something
together that really saved the country coming off of the
awful Trump administration with the pandemic. You know, you get
vaccinations out the door. You end up, you know, with
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the ability to give people checks, the ability to sort
of you know, put the fundamental you know, mortar.
Speaker 7 (02:51:00):
And bricks together again. And that was the case.
Speaker 14 (02:51:03):
And he was at sixty percent in the approval ratings
in twenty twenty one, and they get away from that,
and you know, to me, that should be a guide
post again, a roadmap along with your grandfather's vision, your
thoughts on that, because to me, it's already been done,
and you know, it shouldn't be that hard to replicate it.
You know, if we get the egos and everything else
(02:51:23):
out of the way, your thoughts.
Speaker 22 (02:51:25):
We know how to do it.
Speaker 34 (02:51:27):
The question is do we have the political will to
do it. These midterms are going to be a very
good test of that, because we, as a big ten party,
have a wide variety of candidates in the midterms, just
as there was a wide variety of candidates in the
Democratic primary for mayor in New York City.
Speaker 26 (02:51:47):
M H.
Speaker 34 (02:51:48):
I believe it's incumbent upon Democrats to coalesce around the
winner of that primary. This time will be two around
other primaries as we go through the as we go
through the year. Uh, nobody is going to be one
hundred percent where I am. Nobody is going to be
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one hundred percent as good a legislator as you would be, Jeff.
Speaker 15 (02:52:13):
Uh.
Speaker 34 (02:52:14):
But we need to get behind somebody who is better
than the alternative. And Joe Biden got it. Joe Biden said,
don't come. Don't compare me to the almighty almighty, compare
me to the alternatives.
Speaker 7 (02:52:27):
Yeah, what's a massive gap between the other alternatives?
Speaker 5 (02:52:32):
Yes, right.
Speaker 7 (02:52:34):
Now, you're so try so right. Jim Roosevelt is our guest.
Speaker 14 (02:52:37):
Here a phone number to join us eight three three
five four five five three three three, and Kevin, you
can tell me who we have on the line in
my ear. All right, we'll go to John in Minnesota
in a minute.
Speaker 7 (02:52:53):
Here, talk to me, Jim.
Speaker 15 (02:52:54):
If you.
Speaker 14 (02:52:58):
Look at the next three to six months, if we
you know, get the information you know out regarding the
Epstein files, you know, and that would mean seating Grahala
in Arizona, which is another travesty of justice that somebody
gets elected and they get held up because of this
(02:53:20):
incredibly you know, vicious way of denying somebody a seat
again just doesn't doesn't really compute in a democracy. But
I think that you know, what we're seeing right now,
in October of twenty twenty five, the whole situation could
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change dramatically and hopefully in favor of the Democrats by
the spring of twenty twenty six, and then you're going
into you know, the election in twenty twenty six on
a on a different path than even now. I mean,
seven million people, you know, and and and we were
part of it, you know, on this on this no case,
I think that's only going to get bigger.
Speaker 7 (02:54:03):
I really have.
Speaker 14 (02:54:04):
I have an optimistic view, you know, despite all these
things that are happening to our country and to our
citizens right now. And I think you know, because eventually,
you know, the truth will come out. It always does,
and so I think that would bode well for the
Democrats if indeed the truth comes out.
Speaker 34 (02:54:24):
I'm sure it will. People have been saying to me
earlier this year, where's the reaction to the terrible things
Trump is doing?
Speaker 12 (02:54:35):
There?
Speaker 34 (02:54:36):
After his first election there were all the Indivisible meetings
and so on. We're not hearing anything now, They said, well,
invisible is still around and.
Speaker 7 (02:54:45):
Still important, but still important.
Speaker 34 (02:54:48):
They became groups of activists. The No King's Day was
saying to the general populace, come show where you are
on Trump, and indeed they did it, as you say,
more than seven million people. I think that will grow.
There's lots going on later in November. Just in about
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a week or so, there's going to be a big
fundraiser for Democratic candidates in general, hosted by the DNC
and chaired by our wonderful Governor Morahalley and Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Now,
Mara Heeley is openly gay, Gretchen Whitmer is not openly gay.
(02:55:35):
I think that's a great demonstration of how the Democratic
Party comes together to support the principles that are important
in making sure that people can live their own lives
with dignity and security.
Speaker 7 (02:55:51):
You know, so true.
Speaker 14 (02:55:52):
You know, we spoke to I think a future rising
star in the Democratic Party in California, Senator Sabrina Cervantes
from the Riverside area and Inland Empire. She is uh
Latina and openly gay as well and would caucus the
LGBT community in the Assembly.
Speaker 7 (02:56:12):
One of the things that you know you have done.
Speaker 14 (02:56:15):
You understand, and I think Democrats as a whole is
that we stand stronger when we're more diverse and we're
doing this together. And you know, it's a lot of people,
you know who are to the I don't know, the
center of me, maybe to the center of you. Uh say, oh, well,
(02:56:37):
you know, we got we got to have these working
class white guys with flannel shirts and baseball caps out there,
because that's what we've got to show, you know, where
we're for the working class.
Speaker 7 (02:56:44):
I agree, I want to talk to the guys in
the baseball cap.
Speaker 14 (02:56:47):
We can talk Red Sox and Brewers and everything else,
but the point is is that you got to also
talk to people who have helped you get from point
A to point B.
Speaker 7 (02:56:55):
And maybe they're not sports fans.
Speaker 14 (02:56:57):
Maybe maybe they're you know, folks that you know, spend
time doing other activities. But you've got to embrace them
because we're facing the destruction of our democracy and if
you don't embrace them, you're gonna end up in a
worse situation.
Speaker 7 (02:57:11):
We're all going to end up in the hole together.
I'll even talk to Yankees fans. Boy, you're really uh,
you're really asking for it, aren't you work hard?
Speaker 22 (02:57:27):
Yes?
Speaker 15 (02:57:27):
Right?
Speaker 20 (02:57:31):
Right?
Speaker 7 (02:57:31):
Well, so well, yes, go ahead, Jeff.
Speaker 14 (02:57:36):
I'm sorry, no, no, no, I was just gonna say,
because the Dodgers are in the on the verge of
maybe losing to Canada, and of course Canada despises uh
Donald Trump, which you know, I know you're you're you're
rooting for the Dodgers who grew up there in Los Angeles. Uh,
but in a lot of ways, I'm thinking, you know,
Toronto actually is given the middle finger to Trump, and
I love it.
Speaker 34 (02:57:57):
Uh, And uh, you know, certain get on board with
who with the people who are standing up to the bully.
Speaker 14 (02:58:03):
Yes, yes, exactly, exactly, Uh, and that is uh, that's right.
Now our friends in candidate's into the norse. I mean,
can you imagine you see a commercial gym and and
you're president of the United States, and all of a sudden,
you see the commercial you don't like, you know, they're
they're they're, you know, saying one thing about a predecessor
as a president, and all of a sudden, I'm gonna go,
(02:58:25):
I'm gonna go put a tariff on you.
Speaker 7 (02:58:26):
We're gonna raise the tariffs. I mean, this is this
is stuff that only happens in in Saturday Night Live skits.
This is happening in reality.
Speaker 34 (02:58:36):
It's I'd say it's delusional power, but in fact he
has that power at the moment. And that's what we're
have to.
Speaker 7 (02:58:44):
We have to stand up to UH the UH and
we have to not thirty checks, not give up.
Speaker 34 (02:58:52):
Basically, UH, keep keeping there, keep pushing UH speak for
what's right, and ultimately I believe people will vote for
what's right.
Speaker 14 (02:59:02):
I agree, and they'll vote Democrat. And on November fourth
in California, vote yes on fifty and across the line
vote Democrat. New York City, New Jersey, Virginia, Pennsylvania Supreme
Court Jim Roosevelt, thank you, my friend. We'll talk to
you next week. Should have maybe a few victories if
everything goes well. Fingers, Thank you man, thanks much exactly.
Speaker 7 (02:59:26):
Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 14 (02:59:27):
I want to thank all of our guests. Thank Kevin
and Freddy for producing this broadcast. Our a team on
social media, folks, keep on fighting peacefully. My name is
Jeff Santos, and right now it is my time to
say I gotta go.
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Org NBC News Radio, I'm Chris Kurancio. Snap benefits are
set to expire for millions of low income Americans this
weekend if the government shutdown rolls on. Democrats say that
the Trump administration can use contingency funds to continue those benefits,
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but the USDA says the move is not allowed by law.
There is no vote scheduled for today in the Senate,
Republican Senator John Cornn of Texas is accusing Democrats of
treating those losing food stamp benefits as political playthings.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Our Senate Democrat colleagues are literally taking food out of
the mouths of hungry children because of their stubbornness.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
He called the shutdown pointless and profoundly dumb. Today's day
thirty of the shutdown, at least thirty people have died
as a result of Hurricane Melissa, which is making its
way towards Bermuda. The majority of those deaths came from
floods in Haiti. Hurricane experts say Melissa is one of
the strongest Atlantic hurricanes in recorded history. The storm will
approach Bermuda later today. In is packing wins of one
(01:03):
hundred and five miles per hour. Making it a category
two storm. President Trump has ordered the Department of War
to begin testing nuclear weapons on an equal basis with
other nations. In the post on truth Social Trump specifically
cited the nuclear programs of China and Russia. This comes
as Russian President Vladimir Putin says they successfully tested a
nuclear power drone called the Poseidon and said there was
(01:26):
nothing like this in the world in terms of the
speed and depth of the movement. A Virginia teacher shot
by one of her students is taking the stand today
against the school's former assistant principle in a civil trial.
Abbey's Werner is testifying to recount the shooting, saying she
thought that she had died. The shooting took place in
twenty twenty three, and former assistant principal Ebitde Parker is
(01:46):
accused of ignoring warning signs that the student may have
had a gun. President Trump and First Lady Milania Trump
are welcoming trick or treats at the White House South
Lawn today. The event is open to those who have tickets,
including families of military law enforce and foster children. I'm
Chris Karacio NBC News.
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Speaker 4 (02:09):
We've got enough of red states and Trump changing the rules.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
California is fighting back.
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Speaker 14 (06:56):
Thank you, Kevin, and good afternoon Americans, and welcome to
the Jeff Santo Show. It's a Thursday edition of the program.
Welcome to it. We have a fantastic show today. Governors,
grandsons of FDR, and most importantly, educators and the leader
of educators coming all up. And of course we started
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all with our good friend. He's been with us for
close to fifteen years, from the great city of New York,
which we will be debuting in on AM fifteen ton
fifteen one hundred, I should say almost at fifteen ten, because,
by the way, folks who don't know my background, we
started out in Boston on AM fifteen ten back in
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two thousand and eight and lasted there for a good
five years, and so I always remember fifteen ten. But
it's AM fifteen hundred in New York City beginning Monday
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it goes north into Manhattan, Harlem, the Bronx, and into
some of the suburbs of north of the City of
New York and into New Jersey.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
So there you go, folks.
Speaker 14 (08:20):
We're very excited about this opportunity, and I'll refer to
it as again AM fifteen hundred fift.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Okay, so herb Boyd will start us off.
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Amsterdam News Great journalists recently have had conversations with hopeful
mayor to be Mandani.
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Race is closing a little bit. I think it's still.
Speaker 14 (08:40):
About a ten point margin though from Mom Donnie, we
hope to have him on the show at point after
he gets elected, and we'll look forward to that too.
We're trying to get other New York officials as well
in the coming days and weeks all right. Coming up
after that is president of the California Teachers Association. They've
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been working very closely with the effort to get Prop
fifty passed in California. The members have been out on
the streets, may have run into them in California. If
you are listening to us right now, whether it's on
tape delay on KSFO in San Francisco or KABC in
Los Angeles, or live with our great friends in Sam
(09:28):
Bernardino Greater La, shout out to Mark and the Gang
and Sam Bernardino on CACAA. We're on Monday through Friday,
twelve to three pm in that great neighborhood. So we'll
be talking to the President of CTA, David Goldberg at
four six Eastern that's one oh six Pacific time. And
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then somebody from the neighborhood, Sam Bernardino riverside, not far
from each other, We'll be talking to California State Senator
Sabrinas Servante. She is a rising star in state politics
in California or one of her districts is a riverside
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and we're looking forward to speaking with her at four
thirty Eastern that's one thirty Pacific time. Then we go
to the final hour of the Jeff Santo Show, and
we begin with the former Maryland governor, Baltimore Mayor and great.
I wish we had him now. Social Security Commissioner Martin
(10:32):
O'Malley will join us at five six eastern one oh six,
I'm sorry, two six Pacific time. And then a cohort
on Social Security is Jim Roosevelt, FDR's grandson and the
course co chair of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee.
He will be with us at five thirty three Eastern time. Again,
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that's two thirty three Pacific. And just a note for
those of you who are trying to keep track of
all these folks, Jim Roosevelt's father was a congressman representing
Los Angeles. There you go, so back, I think in
the fifties and sixties, So.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
There you go.
Speaker 14 (11:15):
It's fascinating because you know, there's always these ties that
you just never know you know, how they connect. But
it's really fascinating. And that's one of the great things
being involved in media, being involved in democratic politics. You
run into people that you may be met twenty years ago,
and all of a sudden, boom, you know, they're giving
you a text or a call, whatever the case may be.
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That's the good thing about politics. There's a lot of
things not so good. But anyways, we'll get into that later.
One thing I want to say, and we'll get into
this in the commentary coming up in a minute or two,
was it was really fantastic to talk yesterday with Lee Blackman.
She was is the fantastic Seiu Nage Federal director out
(11:59):
of DC, and her boss, David Holloway, a longtime friend
of the program of yours truly, just really gave us
a real insight to what is going on with federal workers.
I'm going to get into that in the snap benefits
and so on and so forth in this commentary. Phone
number to join us eight three three five four five
five three three three, and we're going to try to
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replay that segment with miss Blackman tomorrow, probably at three
point thirty pm Eastern time, that would be twelve thirty
on the Pacific coast. We'll look forward to having that
done as well. Again, we have a new email address
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for yours truly, that is Jeff with a j Jeff
at Jeff Santosshow dot com. Again, that is the Jeff
Santos Show dot com. So we will we will be
doing that and we're very excited about the opportunity to,
(13:02):
you know, now have that in our staff will have
it too, which is which is also great to have
for our team going forward. You know, yesterday, as I said,
we were moved by the words of Ms.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Blackman and talking about all of these issues.
Speaker 14 (13:23):
And I really believe that the Democratic Party and the
betterment of our society, the humans that live in the
United States of America, to help each other in this
in between time. You know, going back to our interview
was with Jonathan Jackson and how he you know, really
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brought the energy that his father had brought about keeping
hope alive, the great line of Reverend Jesse Jackson from
the nineteen eighties. And we have to at this point
because there is no congressional edict that you know, we
can keep putting the pressure on the House and the Senate,
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but Democrats are in the minority. So until twenty twenty seven,
you're not going to be able to have the Democrats
be able to do anything. And the other party that
is representing the working class, representing the underdog, representing you know,
you know, the folks that are basically needing government. That's
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you know, not only minorities. There's white Americans, you know,
more white Americans as we all know, are on welfare
than those who are minorities. According if you just listen
to the Trump folks or Republicans in last say forty years,
they will tell you it's all they're given minorities all
the you know, they give them free food. You know,
can't give them free food. So you know, this is
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this is what we've been happening. And again, because talk
radio for the last forty years or so has been
dominated by the right wing, you end up having you know,
this information overload and information that is misinformation sold as truth.
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And if you're not a educated consumer of political information,
I know that sounds very weird, but if you don't
have your own idea of how to get information, you know,
a lot of our callers look not only to my show,
but other shows that are on the internet, that are
(15:34):
on some progressive radio public radio combination, and you know,
they try to find, you know, ways to get educated.
But not everybody a has the time, not everybody understands
how to go ahead and get that information. So they
may tear it onto television with Fox at night before
they watch a football game, and that's where they get
their information.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Or maybe it's it's talk radio again.
Speaker 14 (15:58):
You're in traffic in the morning and you want to
get some news or whatever, so you end up, you know,
getting one of the right wing shows that are all
over this country, particularly in morning and afternoon drive. So
that's where people get their information. And if that's you know,
just basically propaganda, which it is now, I mean Gerbels
will be proud, then you know that's what's going to
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end up happening. So that's why, you know, we're trying
to do what we can here, why we look to
expand as we move into twenty twenty six, is to
provide the information and to provide the information in a
way in which you know, you may not necessarily, you know,
want to talk politics, but you may talk sports, and
sports may lead into politics, or music may lead into politics.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Again.
Speaker 14 (16:41):
Tomorrow, we're going to have a Bruce Springsteen ban cover
band coming up, and you know, the members are are
split all over the place in terms of their political views,
so we're not going to get into that with them.
But you know, Bruce Springsteen has been very vocal on
his views of President Trump, and good for him. You know,
somebody with his celebrity, his known entity, you know, doesn't have.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
To do that.
Speaker 14 (17:05):
So kudos to someone like Bruce who is a phenomenal
musician but really is a good man.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
He's done a lot with food banks, which.
Speaker 14 (17:14):
Is something that is really important now too with the
all the cutbacks and so on. All Right, So getting
back to our discussion yesterday with Miss Blackman again, the
director Nage Sciu Nage, and they work closely with the
American Federation of Government Employees as well, in an alliance
that they share. It's just hard to see people who,
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as Miss Blackman said, you know it could afford and
it's not a lot of money, but four fifty maybe
five bucks if you get a little bit of you know,
cappuccino inside your coffee or whatever, and you know, three
p fifty is probably the cheapest, maybe even more. I
haven't been to Starbucks in a while myself. I'm a
duncan don'ts guy, as you know. So the point is
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is that if you can't, if you're living that way,
now you're in a soup line. Now you're figuring out
where do you get your next meal? That's not in
America that we strive for, that we saved for. And
this is why it has to change, and it has
to change dramatically and over the next year in a
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couple of months, you know, starting on I think it's
Sunday or a Saturday is November first, So you end
up in a situation it's two months to twenty six
and then you're going to wait the eleven months for
the election, which everyone who is at you know, hearing
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my voice right now, please get ready to register to vote,
make sure you know where you're voting or talked to
Greg Palaced on Friday about all this. He's with us
at a one thirty Pacific time, leave for thirty Eastern
And in my opinion, it is a critical time, a
critical time for the Democratic Party to get every possible
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voter out there getting prepared to vote, have an education
program and you know about voter suppression. Get the best
folks out there who can talk about that. Gavin Newsom,
Marviousy has done a lot of it already. He's probably
my person normally for twenty twenty eight, but for you know,
to be a communicator in charge. Jessica Crockett, Jerry Austin
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met the other day was highly recommending the Michigan Senator Slotkin.
And you know there there are a whole bunch of people.
And of course eventually Mom Donnie will go into this,
but right now he's you know, the elections on Tuesday,
And as Jerry Austin was telling us, you know, we're
going to give him several months before he can he
(20:02):
can get out beyond New York City. But you know,
he'll will be mayor of the largest city if everything
goes well on Tuesday, and that stands for something, and
that's right away as soon as he takes office. So
all of that is important. But I think we need
to understand what is that stake in this country? What
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is that stake in this country? And we got to
take care of each other. We've got to work, you know,
putting pressure on state government. That is a critical component,
a critical component. If we don't do that, then we
are in a massive, massive problem. So it is really
important to pull this together. And I think you know
(20:47):
what you saw and heard yesterday. If you were online again,
you can watch the Jeff Santoshow dot Com online at
that website, and of course you can listen all of
our different radio stations across the country. I'm just I
just think that it was so powerful, and I talked
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to a couple of our listeners after the show, and
they were all very much moved by what Miss Blackman
was saying and the problems that people are going through
from Starbucks line to soup lines in just a few weeks.
That's where Donald Trump has left us. That's where our
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country is today. That's where the house is out to lunch. Literally,
you know, they put up the sign, you know, gone fishing,
and we don't get our government to work. They elect
people in Arizona like Miss Grajalva, taken over for her
dad who passed away, and they can't seat her because
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Trump is ordered Speaker Johnson can't do it because we
know what will happen if they do. The whole world
will be watching on the whole issue of Epstein's files.
So that is where we are, and it is critical
to keep talking about this issue, and we will. We're
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going to continue to have Miss Blackman on. We're gonna
look to get folks who are involved with different food
banks and food kitchens that are doing these things, a
lot of volunteers and give credit to MSNBC and CNN,
you know for their coverage, particularly MSNBC, and you know,
we'll look to talk to some of their anchors and
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reporters as well.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Good people.
Speaker 14 (22:37):
We just got confirmation of a former MSNBC reporter, Alex
cites Wald, who is around running his own newspaper in Maine.
Had him on in the past. He'll be with us
on Monday and our debut day in New York City,
a small newspaper. You know, it's important because newspapers are
extinct in a lot of ways, and so Alex has
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taken talents from MSNBC and move them to me, which
is great for the people. Main of course, that's a
huge race for the Senate race. We've talked about Platiner
and Collins and Mills the current governor, and she looks
like she's challenging Platner, Platinum is challenging her and so forth.
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And of course Platner has the fifteen point lead on
Collins and Mills and Collins are basically tied margin Nevara,
I think Mills is ahead by one point, So.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
We're going to get into that.
Speaker 14 (23:29):
But it's it's extremely important for people to understand what
is that stake here and everything we can do until
you know, the change comes in November of twenty sixth
and eventually in January where it becomes official, and the Democrats,
you know, a new speaker, first African American in Hakeem Jefferies.
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So all of that is in front of us. But
I think it can be done. We just have to say,
you know, take one step at a time. The old
adage Rome wasn't built in the day. But if the Democrats,
you know, have bold ideas, they have to state it
on healthcare, on education, on rent control, on rent stabilization.
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However you do that on gun safety issues. It's a
whole slew of issues. And if you know, much like
nineteen ninety four, I believe it was my god. Back
in the nineteen nineties, you had a thing called TV guides.
I don't know if it's still around anymore. I don't
see them, but back then it was a guide, you know,
(24:34):
but this tall and you could open up and find
out what was on Channel five and which was on
Channel ten, NBCCBS ABC. I don't even think Fox was
around them, or maybe it was, but prior to the nineties,
I don't think it was.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
And you know, it was.
Speaker 14 (24:54):
Cheers and you know, Saint Elsewhere, and all these differ
in shows that were popular back in La Law and
you would find out, you know, when it was on
and to give a little bit of what the series
episode was, you know, Bob and Joan fall in love, whatever,
and that's what it was. Well, the genius of this,
(25:16):
and again Republicans do politics very well. They would put
the nineteen ninety four contract with America on the TV
guide so people would be flipping through it, again, low
information voters more than likely, and they see, oh, the
Republicans are going to cut taxes.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Republicans are going.
Speaker 14 (25:36):
To do this, and it's wonderful, right, but you know,
nobody knew what was going to becoming, which was basically,
you know, a cancerous view of America, cutbacks on America.
And of course in the nineteen nineties you had this
fight with Bill Clinton, who eventually won it, and eventually
Gingrich would be ousted because of many scandals.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
But that's what really started.
Speaker 14 (25:59):
The caustic Washington relationship between Republicans and Democrats, and it
just got worse.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
We all know about what's currently with Trump.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
But they did something, and maybe Democrats can use that
way of communicating. Not so much TV guide anymore, but
with voters. We'll talk to Jerry Austin next Tuesday about
what his version of the TV Guide in twenty twenty
five is. All right, let's go to the phones. We're
going to start up in Minnesota with our good friend
John Dee. You are next on the Jeff Santio Show.
Speaker 7 (26:30):
What say you, sir?
Speaker 16 (26:34):
Yeah, I'm really interested in this case with the congressional
candidate cat of A Hazale. I don't know if I'm
pronouncing her name correctly. That she was thrown to the
ground and you know, for protesting by ice and now
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the Department of Justice. I heard that they want to
give her fifteen years imprisonment for for that. I mean,
this has just really gotten And.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
Where is and John where where that's in Chicago's in Chicago?
Well and she was Jackson and yeah that one.
Speaker 16 (27:25):
Yeah, So I mean this person is like another AOC,
highly intelligent. I think she worked for meteor Matters. She's young,
and I think she would be an excellent candidate, uh
in Congress, you know, to add to some of the
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other progressive, true progressives that we have.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, that would be that would be are.
Speaker 16 (27:57):
Yeah, And it's unfortunate that they are trying to intimidate
her by you know, going after her so vehemently. I
guess that's the Department.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Of Justice, if you can call it that at this point.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
Yeah, department of revenge is probably a better way to
say it.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
The revenge, the you know what. The yeah, and she.
Speaker 16 (28:25):
Wants to replace the representative Jan Schakowski that district, which
I mean that would be an you know, excellent uh
replacement for for her. And it's too bad that our
Department of Justice, Pam Bondi, you know, just seems to
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think that, you know, intimidation and suppressing the right of
free speech is the way to go in this country.
Speaker 14 (28:58):
And well, what it is is that it's unfortunate, but
the point of the whole administration is to do whatever
Donald Trump thinks is right. And you know, he's one
of these what folks will read the TV guide and
you know and think that that's a law today, you know,
even though it was forty years ago or thirty five
years ago. So that's the unfortunate part. I'm trying to
keep it light, but that is we'll dig more into
(29:22):
that candidate in Chicago and see if she's able to
actually come on our air as well.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
That's an important piece. Thank you.
Speaker 14 (29:30):
John hanging in there. We'll we'll probably talk to you
later in the broadcast.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
This is Jeff Santios Show.
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Our good friend Herb Boyd joins us after this commercial break,
of course, the Amsterdam News Award winning journalist after this
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Let me tell you something about a bully. The only
thing they understand is strength. The Democratic Party were furious
at me for organizing the need to impeach campaign, but
we saw the frat millions joined the movement. Trump tried
to steal one election. He's trying again now. It's Texas
versus California. Want to beat Trump. Democrats can't keep playing
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let's stick it to Trump.
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Okay, see a.
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A supporting the middle class. This is the Jeff Santos Show.
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Thirty three minutes past the hour. It is the Jeff
Santo Show that you are tuned into. Coming you live
from the South coast here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Next guest comes to us from Harlem, USA. He is
in the heart of it all in the great New
York City, which will be debuting The Jeff Santo Show
live three to six Eastern Time in that fantastic city
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in the United States of America, hopefully to be led
Zorn Mamdani starting on Tuesday, Election Day of course New
York City and across America. And here to talk about
Mamdannie and a bunch of other issues. Is our good friend.
He's been with us for over a decade. He is
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the fantastic columnist for the Amsterdam News check it out.
And of course he's written a number of great books
on Malcolm X, Black, Detroit and many others. It's time
to talk to mister Boyd Herb Boyd live in New York.
Mister Boyd, how are you today?
Speaker 21 (34:36):
All right? Thank you, Jeff, and congratulations as you expand
your listening audience. It's a very very it's going to
be a wonderful connection that you have with the with
what you call the metropolitan center of the of this country,
and they need to hear the kind of the essence
(34:58):
of literature and and messages that you have. Right here.
We're enjoying some room heavy rain, you know. Otherwise, of
course it's the rain. The Trump is Trump isn't from
a political standpoint.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
That's a political storm and a half. Wow.
Speaker 14 (35:18):
Well, I hope you the rain doesn't come our way,
which I think it will be. Actually, you know, that's
our luck. But as we're close by, Herb, it has
been a really amazing you know, last few months. Of course,
we can spend a lot of time in California with
our California audience, trying to get Prop fifty past and
the importance of that to the other forty nine states
(35:39):
besides California. But of course there's other things going on,
you know, the race in Virginia for Governor Spanburger seems
to be comfortable there and then of course the New
Jersey race, which is a little closer with Mikey Cheryl
and but it looks like the Democrats should be able
to hold on to that seat too. And then of
course there's the Mam Donnie race with Como. We're seeing
(36:03):
a whole bunch of you know, a lot of bs
and a lot of things that begin with C and
end with P. Since we won't use the S word
and that is out there. I guess some polls show
it within ten points, but it still seems to be
a comfortable race for mister mom Donnie.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Give us the latest. I know you have spoken with.
Speaker 14 (36:26):
Him and his team over the last couple of weeks.
What is he saying? What is he telling you? How
confident is he about a win on Tuesday?
Speaker 21 (36:39):
Well, you know, he's very cautiously optimistic, as it is
his demeanor, this his style. You know, he's never over excited,
of course, never understated either kind and he plays it
right in the middle of things. But I think the
team is suggesting they're quite comfortable with a ten point
(37:00):
margin at this point. It could shrink a bit. We
have to be very wary of the October surprise. We've
had a couple already, but the major one hasn't occurred yet,
and it may yet happen. I think Monday will probably
be the deadline on that, to see exactly what happens
(37:22):
with Sliwa, whether he steps out of the race and
gives Cuomo additional percentage points in closing the margin. But
you don't have to close it considerably to win over
a lot of the undecided boats. And that's all that's
left out there a lot of people. Of course, we
have a number of since straddlers as ever, but I
(37:45):
think the good majority of people, particularly the young voters,
decided that you know, hey, our man Zoran is the man.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
There you go, my man Zoran, there you go. I
like that. It rids thing.
Speaker 21 (38:01):
We'll sell it to him.
Speaker 14 (38:02):
Okay, yeah, exactly exactly, talking with the fantastic for avoid here.
We'll open up the phone calls and I know that
a good friend Mark in San Francisco wants to say hi.
Will talk with him in a couple of minutes. But
let me ask you, is there are you seeing?
Speaker 7 (38:19):
You know?
Speaker 14 (38:19):
And I guess then this a final weekend before an election,
I mean, are you seeing a ton of volunteers from Mom, Donnie.
That's what I have heard in this campaign is he
has people who are, you know, thirteen years old to
eighty years old out there campaigning for him. Is that
what's happening on the streets of New York City and
Harlem and across the Borrows.
Speaker 21 (38:41):
That's pretty much has been the scenario. We saw it
early on and it was amazing. The thing about it
is is how he's baking and doing his campaign strategy.
He's leaning a lot where the young people are, I
mean the social media he's pounding. That's where it's really
(39:02):
considerable wave of activity. CMO is like doing the old
fashioned traditional way. A lot of literature in the hand
of folks, and you can see it scattered all over
the streets here in Harlem. People I guess they pick
it up and then they throw it down. But anyway
you can show it indicates that he is out there
(39:23):
in that sense, not that he's working the precincts, not
that he's working the streets, particularly as Mandanie moves all
over the place, particularly with the Black churches he's been
of course, the Muslim community here in Harlem and in
the Bronx and Queens. He's making sure his presence is
strong there and what its message is. The affordability continues
(39:45):
to be the key point, but he's not He's very
wary of the concern about safety. He's concern about the
cost of living, He's concerned about what's happening with Gaza.
He continues to not shrink away from the situation, although
recently in Gaso we have the intense, uh recurrence, you know,
(40:08):
the attacks on the people there, hundreds of people being
killed over the last couple of days. But now they're
talking about the ceasefires back on again. Well, we can
believe that I got some land in Florida I can
sell you.
Speaker 14 (40:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, bridge in Arizona too, Uh, you know,
the Brooklyn Bridge. So much, so much bs that's going
on between net Yahoo and Trump. It's just unbelievable, but
both of them know how to deliver it, one with
one with a smile and the other one with a snicker.
It is uh, it's it's a sad situation for the
(40:43):
people in Gaza, as we all know. And it's it
obviously ruins, you know, a democracy in Israel. To have
somebody like net Yahoo, uh, you know, on a complete
destruction course of his neighbor. So talk to me Herb about,
you know, how the relationship that Mandanni has developed and
(41:06):
how on day one he takes this as our good friend,
Reverend Jesse Jackson. We had on Jonathan Jackson yesterday, his son,
the congressman from Chicago, and we'll be replaying back tomorrow
night in our LA listeners at KABC. By the way,
one of the things that you know, he was saying,
and of course j as he was well known for,
(41:28):
was the Rainbow Coalition. And I think Mandanni is part
of the twenty first century version of what Reverend Jesse
Jackson said in the nineteen eighties of the Rainbow Coalition.
You know, it's it's African American, it's Caucasian, it's Latino,
it's Asian, it's straight, it's a it's it's you know,
part of the whole fabric of America.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
And I think, you know, he's one of the very
few people who.
Speaker 14 (41:53):
Have basically taking that and expanded it again from what
I'm seeing, I'm not in New York City. I'm looking
forward to hopefully having a chance to talk to h
mayor elect you know, in the coming days and weeks.
But you know, is that is that something that you know,
again you saw it with Jesse and obviously David Dinkins
(42:14):
for a short time. But you know he has a chance,
uh to really have that. Of course, Obama in Oait,
what are you what are your thoughts about that? Because
he you know, a lot of people don't think of
him as African American, but he was born in Uganda.
The last time I checked, Kanda is in Africa. So
(42:35):
there you go. Talk to me about that.
Speaker 21 (42:40):
Well, you know, as I always say that, all comparisons odious,
but there are elements and aspects a little bit of
the Dinkins uh or the old mosaic, the beautiful mosaic
he used to talk about in characterizing the the populace here,
a little bit of the Jesse Jackson, the whole Rainbow coalition.
(43:04):
But I think he basically he's a Muslim coming in
and New York is I mean, that's going to be
absolutely unique. We never had anything like that. And of
course I think he has a resolve and he has
the qualifications, and he certainly steeled himself and prepared himself
in a number of ways as he did during the
(43:25):
campaign to deal with the Islamophobia, which of course, is
absolutely pregnant, you know, in this society. So he's fended
off all of those accusations and assertions. His thing about
a the infatato, I mean, anything to do with what's
happening in Israel, I asked one of the questions. Appointed
(43:48):
questions I asked him because it was being painted as
someone who was denying the existence of the state of Israel.
So I put that particular question to him, among others,
and he made it very explicit that he is a
support supporter that the state of Israel should exist. But
(44:09):
he stopped at that point, and I guess a lot
of stuff hanging in there, you know, was beyond that.
But anyway, he's going to quickly just wipe that away
because the accusation was coming at him from a number
of the commentators, including New York Times up ed pages
(44:31):
where people were saying that he was totally opposed to
the existent state of Israel. So he made it clear
to me and other members of the Black Press, which
of course is another indication of him reaching out in
the Rainbow Coalition, is that he called together the Black
Press to talk to him because the rumors were circulating
(44:52):
that he was not reaching out to us in a
very very substantial way that he was mostly interested in
the Muslim community and dealing with what's happening and Crown Heights,
you know, with the Jewish community, to say nothing of
what's happening in his own community in Queens, and giving
less attention to Harlem. So I think one of the
(45:14):
things he was trying to discourage, you know, any further
you know, discussion about him him being opposed to the
situation here in Harlem. And he's come through here several
occasions now, including the churches. He did a major one
at the Sunday I think at Abyssinia, which of course
is the number one church in our community, and it
(45:36):
was a tremendous turnout there from what I hear from
a couple of friends who attended. It was a good turnout.
And he dwelled on that whole situation about dealing with
particularly the costs of living and trying to kind of
put a tamp on the whole notion that African Americans
are fleeing from out of this city. You know, certainly
(45:59):
they are, and he has a reason for that. And
so he says from day one he's going to be
in the patch up that situation and make sure that
you know, no more African Americans are going to be
pulling out of here for the whole gentrification. He speaks
of reparations and gentrification. Those are two things that he
dwells on. And I talked to him about a couple
(46:22):
of things too, and he was saying, hey, we can
have a one on one, and was scheduled to have
a one on one. I say, well, I want to
get you on the radio with Jeff Santos and he says, well, okay,
we we'll work that out. Maybe in the post election situation.
Speaker 15 (46:37):
We go to it.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
Well, thank you her.
Speaker 21 (46:40):
A couple of we'll get you order to ask him,
how did you win this thing exactly?
Speaker 14 (46:50):
You know, obviously you were talking to her void and
letting an Amsterdam News tell your story. That was the
that would end up being the key my man. Awesome, awesome, awesome,
Thank you very much. We look forward to that and
we're trying to get other elected officials, including AOC and
others on the show.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
In the first week.
Speaker 14 (47:10):
Let me ask you before we go to Mark in
San Francisco, herb Yesterday we had on Lee Blackman. She's
the age Federal Director about all the federal workers. You know,
I'm I'm looking at my TikTok feed here.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
We love it.
Speaker 14 (47:25):
Uh the Jeff Santo show on TikTok Rocking and Company
doing a great job. And uh there's a woman, uh,
an African American woman, uh, you know, crying on this
on this video, and I'm wondering, you know, for the
federal workers in New York and New Jersey. You know,
this is this is a crisis that you know, they're
going from the Starbucks line, as Miss Blackman said, to
(47:49):
the soup line.
Speaker 7 (47:50):
And I just want to get in your quick thoughts
and then we'll take mark.
Speaker 21 (47:56):
But are where are the really mostly people that concerned
her out not only here but across the country around
the whole globe. Here is that the snap thing ends
on Saturday, and Governor Holkl have stepped up to come
make sure that the people here in this state are
(48:16):
going to be said, and she's making certain measures to
ensure that. But that's a principal concern. I mean, you
talk about someone and they're going to blame the Democrats
on this, I mean kind of aspersion they've been casting
on the Democrats is absolutely amazing when you have someone
who's weaponizing the military, you know, in our cities and
(48:39):
saying nothing of taking out boats in the Pacific and
the Caribbean. I mean, all of the due process being
violated there. We got so many issues on the plate here,
it's hard to focus on anyone. But the one that's
closest is when you've got to put some food in
your stomach that hits you right away in the gut.
Speaker 14 (48:59):
You might say, yeah, it does, and you know it
goes along with the rents too damn high in most cities,
including New York City.
Speaker 7 (49:07):
Of course, at the top of that list.
Speaker 14 (49:09):
It goes to the fact that you can't get an education,
so you can't get a good job with a good wage,
you know, and good health insurance, which of course is
now being cut with the shutdown. So I mean, it's
just a trickle down effect on so many different things.
Somebody who has been talking with me on this is
our good friend in the Bay Area in San Francisco. Mark,
you are next with her boyd. Go right ahead, my friend.
Speaker 7 (49:32):
Let's say you her BOYD.
Speaker 14 (49:34):
How you doing?
Speaker 21 (49:35):
Oh? Thank you? Mark? Everything all right, I'm okay, I'll
be okay. I'm just getting a little food my stomach.
Make sure that we can say that out here.
Speaker 11 (49:47):
Well, you better hand on to your wallet. Trump, right,
thousand dollars from all of us and ruminade on what
wallet they want to take it from.
Speaker 21 (50:00):
I was thinking out in San Francisco.
Speaker 11 (50:01):
Mark, they're going good. I mean, we're going to get this, uh,
Proposition fifty passed. So we're gonna do our part over here.
Speaker 21 (50:10):
And what what's that? Mark, We'll say Composition fifty. What's that?
Speaker 14 (50:15):
That's the prop fifty that you know, Yeah, redistricting her okay,
Prop fifty in Calsel Okay.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
So that's a big victy.
Speaker 11 (50:28):
Trying to offset Trump's assault on uh, you know, on
the House of Representatives. We're trying to get more Democrats
uh to the House of Representatives to offset what he's
doing in Texas. And it looks like that's going to
pass big hmmm.
Speaker 21 (50:45):
Yeah. Well, North Carolina, you saw what happened down there,
and certainly the situation across the country. I mean, I mean,
the whole issue of redistrict and jerrymandering. It's almost like
passing the prologue again. We're going back to the whole
Shelby versus holder. The whole eviration of these of the
(51:06):
Jim Crow voting rights that the nineteen sixty five. Of course,
there's only one pillar left and that's Section two, and
that seems to be in jeopardy.
Speaker 14 (51:17):
We'll be talking to Greg Palace tomorrow herb on this
issue of voter suppression and redistricting efforts. But what Gavin
Newsom is doing and they're returning unlike the Republicans in
Texas and Abbott, who's basically just a puppet for Donald
Trump and company, you know, he's going to be taking
a lot of African Americans and one of the one
of the largest African American if counties in America, if
(51:40):
not the largest, in Harris County in Houston, you know,
off the ballot. Latinos of course as well, if you'll
let all the Latinos vote, Democrats win that state almost
two to one.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
But you know they have been voter suppressing for years there.
Speaker 14 (51:54):
But this is this is where it is, and I
think Gavin Newsom is fighting fire with fire. You take
five districts that are right now Republican and make it Democrat.
In twenty thirty two, you revert back to the old
redistrict lines, and you know, and and then you know
you go from there. But this is this is critical, man,
because you don't do it, it's it's going to be
very hard. I know, Mark, you have another question, go
(52:16):
right ahead, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11 (52:19):
I was just going to say to Herb that you know, basically,
the Republicans are trying to say that the Democrats are
the enemy, and it's basically a diversion that the rich
people in this country have declared war on us, and
they want to divert the attention away from that fact.
We've got to get everybody together to realize that the
rich and the corporations are trying to just basically take
(52:40):
control of our democracy, and we've got to all stick
together and defeat this and not let the Republicans divert
and say that the Democrats are the enemy, because that's
just another Republican diversion from the fact that they're robinus
blind and it's the corporations in one percent and the GOP.
Speaker 21 (53:00):
The King's the No King's Day was. It resonated well
across the country, but we always concern about what happens
after that. We had a tremendous turnout, massive turnout seven
million people hit the streets of this country. But what
do you do after that? I think the Refuse Fascism
(53:20):
November this they're going to be similar down in Washington,
d C. I hope a number of a partner organizations
joined them in that demonstration to conducatentenue to momentum that
we got on October eighteenth with No King's Day.
Speaker 7 (53:37):
That would be fantastic.
Speaker 14 (53:39):
And we need that seven million people strong coming out
to vote nationwide on the fourth of November. And we
need people like Mark and a lot of our callers
and listeners throughout the country to basically lead that charge
again nonviolent, peacefully, to do the right thing. Mark, thank
(53:59):
you so much much for a call and keep on fighting,
as I say, peacefully, my friend.
Speaker 7 (54:03):
We'll talk to you later in the broadcast. Let me
ask you this, Herb.
Speaker 14 (54:07):
Do you sense that we have a scenario here that
you know, the people that we have talked about, young
African Americans maybe who stayed home with Harris in twenty
twenty four, are they now convinced that, you know, not
only that Harris, you know, would have saved a lot
(54:28):
of lives and a lot of people, you know, from
dying of starvation from all of the problems that now
people are facing with these cutbacks and layoffs and so forth.
But do you sense that they have now turned the
corner or is there still a lot of apprehension from
gen Z or gen Y in the African American male community.
Speaker 21 (54:53):
To say, definitely of gen.
Speaker 7 (54:54):
X, yeah, j X, my world, Yeah, some concern.
Speaker 21 (55:00):
You know, they're waiting to hear something, something that really
resonates for them. I think one of the things that's
happening in this country is to see more and more
younger elected officials. That will help a lot. Uh, You've
got we had some iterations of that out of the
Fast you know, out of Florida. You know what was
(55:22):
happening up in New Jersey, had a couple couple of
young people even out in California, California. Maybe Mark can
can give us some information about what's happening with the
young voters and whether or not they're excited about this
year moving into it, because if they don't get excited,
the mere terms is going to be disastrous because the
(55:43):
Trump administration is doing everything they can to sabotage that completely.
And I look at the movie The weaponization, the whole
military move, the potential Insurrection Act being opposed, and what
that means that you know, he has promised to bring
the troops here in New York City. If I'm dining
wins so as one of the hypotheticals that were proposed,
(56:07):
what do you do? What do you do when Trump
unloose the legions of National Guard troops here in New
York City? And that's the potential we have to concerned about.
And young people are certainly concerned about the whole weaponization
and militarization that's going on because they know they'll be
on the front line of that. They'll be the ones
(56:28):
on the ramp as dealing with that advance, whether it's
the weaponization or militarization or the immigration issue Ice and
how Ice is moving aggressively, snatching people off the street
without anything got a provocation. But I'm still concerned, you know, Jeff,
with what's happening with the number of people who are
(56:50):
just being knocked out smitherenes. You know, in the Pacific,
and it was in the Caribbean. Now they moved out
of the Pacific, I guess the Atlantic, and it's next.
Speaker 7 (57:01):
It is outrageous.
Speaker 14 (57:02):
But this is when you have somebody who wants to
test nuclear weapons because the Chinese have tested it over
the years, which hasn't happened again since the nineties. But
you know, generations and decades, you know, and millennials don't
make a difference to mister Trump.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
You know, he just wants to show who book as
you are.
Speaker 14 (57:21):
So this is what we have, and it's sad with
the capital ss of who we're being led by and
how we are basically being led into a massive hole
economically with these tariffs. You know, I've been using the
whole issue of Dunkin Donuts. We have it here, fourteen
(57:43):
dollars for this bag which you can't see her, but
I'm holding it up for our audience that is looking
at it at thud Jeff Santo show on video and
it was seven dollars just September fifteenth, now fourteen ninety nine,
three weeks in a row at the local sn s
one of the one of the top grossers in Massachusetts.
(58:05):
And you know, this is the tariff of Trump, the
Trump tariff economy, and it's going to destroy many, many
lives and many many businesses along the line. Uh, you know,
unless there's an end to it. So yeah, this is
this is where we live. This is us in uh
you know, October of twenty twenty five, Herb. And frankly,
(58:27):
you know, no.
Speaker 12 (58:27):
Doubt about it.
Speaker 21 (58:29):
I'm a frank You have to pay for the hole
in the hole in the doughnut. You've got to pay
for that too.
Speaker 7 (58:34):
Right exactly, that hole is getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 14 (58:38):
Uh, pretty soon you're going to have a massive donut.
Speaker 7 (58:42):
But yeah, well I think, yeah, I think.
Speaker 14 (58:46):
One of the things, Herb, we're going to talk about,
uh you know, is the post election next Thursday of
Mundani and what that means. I'm looking forward to that.
We'll be talking next Thursday. We'll be on in the together.
Speaker 7 (59:00):
Yes, yes, look forward to it.
Speaker 14 (59:02):
Maybe we give you an hour, Okay, we have to
just give you an hour, all right, my man.
Speaker 7 (59:07):
Well, thank you, and we.
Speaker 21 (59:09):
Will celebrate the birthday and I'll get back to you.
Speaker 22 (59:12):
Okay, Oh yes, that's right.
Speaker 14 (59:15):
I don't know if we can do this in last second,
but I will promise you her we will play happy
birthday to you and your wife who are going to
have the birthday on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (59:22):
Happy, happy, happy birthday.
Speaker 14 (59:24):
Thank you thank you completely forgot.
Speaker 7 (59:28):
We'll I'll play it in the next segment.
Speaker 14 (59:30):
Thank you, Happy birthday, her boy to missus v take
care man, We'll be right back.
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It is our two other Jeff Stanto show. Come in
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Fridays on KABC that is at seven o'clock on Tuesdays
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is because of what Prop fifty is doing to hoped
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save the rest of the forty nine states, to be
able to expand, to protect students, to protect teachers, and
in particular, and a lot of other issues that we
are at stake here dealing with Donald Trump, and we've
just talked about, you know, yesterday and you know the
interview we did with Ms Blackman of sciun Age. All
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of that issues is so so relevant to everyday Americans
because when you go from Starbucks line to soup lines,
that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with that not
only with the shutdown with health care, you're dealing with
this with snap benefits being cut on Saturday. So all
these things that are going on, and it's right in
front of us, and you need you need fighters, people
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who fight peacefully, and the California Teachers do that every
day and on Sundays. They are a fantastic, fantastic union.
And we're great pleasure to bring in the president of
the California Teachers Association. Mister David Goldberg joins us, the
president of the union. It's great to have you with us, sir,
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welcome to the Jeff Santo Show.
Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
Can you hear me.
Speaker 26 (01:09:18):
If you're talking to me, I'm not hearing anything.
Speaker 14 (01:09:21):
Okay, all right, we'll try to get that audio connection
back together again. Kevin or Freddie I can hear him,
but he can obviously hear me, so hopefully we can
get that squared away.
Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
Let me just tell.
Speaker 14 (01:09:35):
You our friends and of people who follow the Jeff
Santo Show know of our relationship with the head of
Badass Teachers, Melissa Tomplinson. They also know of the great
work that our friends at New Jersey Education Association are doing,
and that is of course with the former Deputy Chief
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of Staff to Governor Phil Murphy, Deb Cornovaka, who we
may end up talking to a little bit later in
the broadcast, but you know, once we get this audio
thing squared away and Kevin, let me know when we
have that situation, hopefully Freddie and you can tackle that
over the next minute or two. You apologize to our
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audience for this, but we're trying to establish that connection.
So one of the things that is, you know, important
is students and you know, breakfast.
Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
You know, people get free breakfast.
Speaker 14 (01:10:34):
You know that's going to be eliminated, the free lunches
and so forth.
Speaker 7 (01:10:38):
These are all.
Speaker 14 (01:10:39):
Things that you know, again, you cannot go to school
in the morning. And I think of, you know, my situation,
and thousands of people, millions of people are around this
country who you know, either get up in the morning
and don't like what mom has made or go to
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school because they don't.
Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Have a mom, but they don't have a breakfast.
Speaker 14 (01:11:04):
And what that impact does in the state of learning,
this to me is really critical and we cannot have
we cannot have cuts to people's lives. And this is
what is happening, and it is outrageous, outrageous that this
is what Donald Trump is doing. Kevin, do we have
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any update on when we have this hookup going?
Speaker 7 (01:11:34):
Okay?
Speaker 14 (01:11:35):
All right, and again if we can't get the video,
we'll just do a phone call Kevin on that, so
we can try to make that happen over the next
minute or two.
Speaker 7 (01:11:44):
Okay.
Speaker 14 (01:11:45):
So one of the other aspects of this, as we
talked on Tuesday with Mss Tomblinson of Badass Teachers, is that,
you know, special ed all the things that go into
the education. It's not just you know, somebody gets there
at eight twenty and they leave at two twenty.
Speaker 7 (01:12:05):
It's all the things that go on, you know, pre
and post.
Speaker 14 (01:12:08):
For the teacher, for the educators, everybody from the school
bus drivers to the folks that are in the cafeteria,
all of this, all of this could be on the
chopping block. And that is why again Prop fifty is
such a major, major piece of well, it's not a
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piece of legislation, it's a vote. So I ask you,
if you are in California to make sure that you
are voting if you haven't voted by mail already, like
our good friend Mark did from San Francisco, that you
go out to vote on Tuesday, November fourth, and you know,
and you're there early, and you're there late, and I
know the teachers are volunteering to get people to and
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from the polls. That's why it's so valuable and so
necessary to be able to have this great, great organization
that is doing everything they possibly can, you know, with this.
And we're hoping again to talk to President Goldberg in
a couple of minutes.
Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
All right, I believe that we do have the.
Speaker 14 (01:13:14):
President of the California Teachers Association, President Goldberg. Sorry about
the inability to get you on right away, but it's
great to have you on, sir. Thank you for joining
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you know this this afternoon. Welcome to the Jeff Santo Show.
Speaker 26 (01:13:43):
Great to be here. If that was my biggest problem today,
we'd all be good.
Speaker 14 (01:13:46):
So all good in the neighborhood, my friend. Well again,
as I was just saying, you know, the impact that
you know, failure to have Prop. Fifty pass to give
the ability to the Democratic legislature and Governor Newsom to
be able to pass legislation to have these new districts
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because of what has happened in Texas and around the
country with the right wing and how they have, in
my opinion, you know, destroyed the ability of Latinos of
African Americans to vote in those places, particularly places like
Texas and Florida. And you know, and this has been
going on for a long long time, and you know,
Gavin Newsom is fighting fire with fire, and I know
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that you believe in that because the impact of cutbacks
that we're seeing now with the Trump administration is really
severe and it impacts your teachers, your students.
Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
Give me your perspective here on this whole issue of Prop. Fifty.
Speaker 26 (01:14:45):
Yes, there's a number of levels that this is working on.
Speaker 7 (01:14:49):
Right.
Speaker 26 (01:14:49):
This is a the counter attack, as you're saying, to
authoritarianism and actually kind of racist attack that the Trump
administration is doing. It is worth noting, as you said,
that the districts he's tart, that their targeting Texas actually
are disenfranchising people of color, stuff that they would not
have been able to do. Frankly, if they would not,
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the Supreme Court would not have gutted some of that
elections and civil rights laws that allow them to do that.
We're doing actually the opposite in California, by the way,
the redistricting that's set to happen here if this passes,
would actually bring more people of color voices into the Congress.
So it's the opposite, but on the bigger So that's
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just on that level, on a bigger fundamental level. The
reason why educators and our union is behind this is
just as constant attacks by the Trump administration. You should
know that we have one out of eight students in
this nation or in school in California, so we feel
the brunt of these tax In fact, a lot of
it has been targeted initially at states like California. We
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lost Trump illegally a day before funding was supposed to
go out this last summer, tried to cut funding for
that went to rural students, that went to migrant students,
all the kind of racists again, this anti tax on DEI.
We pushed back and we that did not happen. But
as it is, these cuts, we have twenty six million
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students in California that are receiving food programs, supplemental food programs.
That's what's that's what's a danger. We have seven a
half million students whose special ed resources are being threatened
around this stuff as well. Round with federal government. Frankly
under Democratic Republican Uh, leadership has never funded IDA. It's stuff,
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you know, special led services. Uh. And that's that's not everyone.
But the way that Trump is actually weaponizing this has
really pushed us as an organization to say, we're going
to have to fight on our local levels and our
state levels, but now we also really have to our
survivals is based and also taking on and winning frankly,
these federal struggles as well.
Speaker 7 (01:16:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:16:58):
No, it's it's it's coming at you in many different ways,
many different levels. You know, as I said while we
were trying to get your audio fixed, just think about
and I know that you talk about this a lot,
but it is so critical, you know, and avan you
know I've said this before, David, educators teachers the most
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important profession in this country because basically, if you don't
do it, you don't give them the tools, you don't
educate the future, it dries up. Then you really have
a dictatorship on your mind, and only the very wealthy
get educated, and everybody else is fighting for scraps. Talk
to me about the breakfast, the lunch that is provided
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by the federal government, because not everybody is born with
the Donald Trump silver spoon in their mouths. And how
this impacts, you know, the ability for your educators, your
teachers to get through to a student. I know, when
I'm hungry, I'm not really thinking about history or math
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or English. I'm thinking about putting some food in my mouth.
That's a priority, and now that may not be able
to be given to people who need it.
Speaker 26 (01:18:13):
Your thoughts, Yeah, I could talk to you personally about
my experiences teaching. I taught for over a decade in
the Ramona Gardens housing projects in Los Angeles. Every weekend
I would get oranges. There was a vendor as the
Farmer's Market who would give me a big bag of
oranges for my students. And every weekend I would go
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to store and I would get sandmwich, bread and peanut
butter and jelly. And I knew, especially at the end
of the month, if food kids did not have food, frankly,
they could not function. Now what's happening now is this
is becoming not just the end of the month, this
is becoming every day of the month. Right, We've already
had the highest inequality ever in California kind of leads
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the way in that, but we've also have people now
snap benefits going out expiring November. First, what families are
going to be looking at is just devastating, and kids
cannot learn when they're hungry. It leads to all kinds
of behavioral I mean, just puts people on survival mode,
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and you know, to weaponize this, and to weaponize this
not just in this current shutdown, but the weaponize the
cuts to healthcare. It cuts to all kinds of programs.
As I said, we've been saying for decades, now, please
federal government do your part that you said you would,
and fund special ad fund the programs you said you would.
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Now they said they have no money. Now all of
a sudden, they have forty five million dollars to up
you know, to all our ice agents right for the
next four years, you know, to attack our communities or
students are not getting services they deserve it. So it's
really and it's not just educators who have a role
to play, but it's also frankly educator unions because we
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find ourselves today again partly because other unions have been
so devastated private sector unions have been devastated over the
last decades, we find ourselves to be the biggest union
in the nation right now and We're a union that
workers that are in every single community across this state
and across all the states, and we have an obligation
and to fight for ourselves because our disrespect of our
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profession is connected to this. It's connected to our still
three quarters profession made up of women's disrespectful of women's work,
it's disrespectful of the students we serve. So we have
to fight for ourselves. That's part of justice, but so
is fighting for our students. And that's really becoming more
and more clear, and we're thrilled to see like in Chicago,
in LA and cities across this nation where teachers' unions
(01:20:48):
are the ones who are kind of the front line
on leading the pushback against this authoritarianism and these ice
attacks on our students and communities.
Speaker 14 (01:20:58):
You know, we're talking with David Goldberg, president of the
California Teachers Association, and the impact that they have in
helping students and the impact that they have as a
great union. And as you said, because of all the cutbacks,
because of all the private unions, they are the biggest
uh and it's it's runs by mister Goldberg and some
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of his lieutenants to the point where they are doing
the right thing for the working class, and you know,
and they're also communicating that.
Speaker 15 (01:21:27):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (01:21:27):
And again it's a real pleasure to have David, and
we look forward to having a long relationship with David
and the CTA California Teachers Association here on the Jeff
Santo Show going forward, I I I also got to
tell you that, you know, if it if it wasn't
for the teachers, and I kept talking to our good
friend at Badass Teachers, Melissa Tomlinson herself is a New
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Jersey Education Association.
Speaker 7 (01:21:53):
Part of the whole NEA family, you know, and.
Speaker 14 (01:21:58):
It's it's so critical because every facet of life goes
through it. You know, the attack on trans that affects
school teachers and students there, the attack on on ice.
You know, if there are Latino or folks that look
like Latino that whether they're in New Jersey or California
or anywhere in this country. Of course, we all mentioned
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what's happened with Chicago. We had on Congressman Jonathan Jackson yesterday,
Rev and Jesse Jackson's son and you know, was telling the.
Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Horror stories of Chicago.
Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
It's the teachers that are dealing with this, and the
more you throw at them, you know, the more you
know you're going to have to have the strength to
sort of still get through to the students. You know,
I remember twenty thirty years ago, maybe less than that now,
but at least in the last twenty years. And unfortunately
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some under the Democrats, mainly on the Republicans, where you know,
they put forty kids in a classroom and they say,
all right, teachers, go do your magic what you know,
you know, teach everybody.
Speaker 7 (01:23:02):
Everybody should be an a student.
Speaker 14 (01:23:03):
In the meantime, teachers' aids are cut, you know, special
education is cut, and you're spending all this time teaching
to the test, you know, I mean, it's the stuff.
Speaker 7 (01:23:13):
And you guys keep.
Speaker 14 (01:23:14):
On fighting peacefully, and you do it in a way
in which you provide a foundation for young students, young
men and women to do this. And I tell you,
I give you tremendous credit as the largest teachers union
and the largest union now in the country to be
able to keep this fight going, because you know, a
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lot of people would have given up and say, look,
I can't do this anymore. And so thank you on
behalf of people who admire teachers, and teachers had a
major impact on my life in my career. I just
think that it is incredibly important for people to understand
who are voters on Prop fifty, the role of educators,
the role of what the CTA is doing, and to me,
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this is important not only for people in California, but
people listening all around the country. We'll repeat this when
we debut in New York City next week and our
of course, our listeners in Boston and throughout the state
of California. But I think it's incredibly important for everyone
to understand what your fight is on a daily basis.
Speaker 26 (01:24:18):
Dated Yeah, I mean it is a daily basis, and
like I said, we're fighting on multiple levels. I mean,
we're fighting our own districts to make sure they don't
hold money. Often we're fighting, and I guess to your point,
I do want to point something else out. Look, this
is definitely this is a very partisan fight. We do
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not pick this fight. But this is when Trump and
this authoritarianism tries to come towards Congress and basically disempower
our voters in California from having any say on the
national level by gerrymandering and rigging stuff in Texas, we
have to Wigan. But we, as you said, some of
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it is not partisans. We frankly, we've had Democrats as well,
who for a decade uh bought into this whole privatization
and this whole charterization, as if that is somehow instead
of well, you starve districts of funding, let's privatize them,
this neoliberal way of looking at education, and it was
an absolute disaster and we're still picking up California. Frankly,
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we see here California, we're the fourth largest economy in
the world if we're our own nation, and we yet
we don't have work towards the middle and some and
some stuff for towards the bottom in terms of our
ratios of students to counselors. That's that's unconscionable. So we
need to fight on all levels, take on all parties,
and really make sure that students get what they deserve.
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That's that's a big fight. Again. We're we're aligned with
our governor on this, Governor Newsom on this, but there's
also times where we need to push here on the
democratic establishment in our state to really think about how
we fund We used to find we used to have
free universities you sees cal states and community colleges in California.
So that went away with the kind of the racist
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backlash that we had around Prop thirteen, and we've had
now decades and decades of disinvestment public education. It's something
that we have to take care of in California and
our Democratic Party, frankly, who leads the state, has to
take care of that as well.
Speaker 14 (01:26:20):
We're talking with David Goldberg, president of California Teachers Association
here on the Jeff Santo Show again. We will invite
them again to just have about three minutes left in
our segment here. I must tell you I've been so
impressed with Governor Newsom and his ability to communicate and
fight fire with fire against mister Trump. And you know,
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to have an ally like the California Teachers Association is
really super important. And also you know to understand that
you know, those teachers, they're not there because they want
to make a million dollars. They're there to help people
don't go into education field, you know, to make money.
And you know that word has to get out and
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I think it is getting out because you have a communicator,
I think the best in the country. And you know,
I'm at this point in time not ready to make
a full endorsement of Gavin Newsom for president, but pretty close.
I think he is by far the best communicator we
have that could be president. And you know it, it
to me is so important for California. And you know
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this is another thing too, David. I think California gets
ripped off because you know, they don't come number one
in the primaries. They don't, they don't end up because
of the way the time zone works that the elections
are usually already taken care of by the middle of
the Middle country, you know, places like Wisconsin and Minnesota
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and so forth, and in the Midwest. So it's great
to have California recognize for all the progressive legislation, you know,
for all the folks from Sajar Chavez to Maxine Waters
to all the great leaders You've had. Talk to me
a little bit about that, because I know you you
you have a tremendous pride of what both CTA have
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done and and a lot of the California progressive history too.
Speaker 26 (01:28:18):
Yeah, I look, and I do want to state that also,
it took work right California. As I said in that
when I was growing up California frankly led the racist backlash.
Speaker 13 (01:28:31):
In this nation.
Speaker 7 (01:28:32):
William right, Yeah, and I think so.
Speaker 26 (01:28:35):
I think it's taken decades now really building and really
building grassroots infrastructure to really be the people we are today.
I know that it's also taken a real switch in
our thinking about what it means to be an educator.
That we fight around our salaries and our healthcare, but
we also fight around class sizes, the issues you bring up,
(01:28:58):
around issues around access to education, the nurses. You know,
we've seen strikess. I'll just uplift for example, the striking
until thirty seconds, Yeah, which really was framed it was
common good bargaining, which was not just about our salary healthcare,
but really putting our contract and really what it does
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for the common good of our communities. And that's been
something that we've all played our part. It's been a
long transition. I said that we weren't always here because
we're gonna have to win this in every part of
the state.
Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
I agree with you.
Speaker 14 (01:29:29):
Thank you so much for spending time with us today. Sorry,
but we couldn't get you on as fast as we could.
We'll make sure we'll do that again soon. David Goldberg,
President of California Teaching Association, thank you so very much.
Keep on fighting Prop fifty folks got a vote yes
on November fourth.
Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
Thank you man, appreciate you. We'll be right back. It's
the Jeff Santo Show.
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is so great to have the senator on the show. Welcome,
it's a real pleasure to have you on. And I
know you shout out to a lot of listeners at
casey AA as well.
Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
Good afternoon, Senator, Good afternoon Jack.
Speaker 12 (01:35:17):
Pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 14 (01:35:19):
It's a pleasure to be with you. You know, your
accomplishments are pretty amazing, and I want to talk to
you a little bit about all of them in a minute.
But you may have heard the last interview he did
with mister Goldberg and the importance of the election coming
up on November fourth, and the referendum of Prop fifty,
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and I want to get your take on this because
the ability to win the House is so critical for
the other forty eight states, including California, because of the cutbacks,
because of Donald Trump, because of what is happening where
yesterday we talked to friends at the Seiu and Age Union,
(01:36:03):
where people are going from Starbucks lines, you know, for
four or five dollars a cup of cappuccino, you know, frappucino,
to the soup line where people are just trying to
get by to the next lunch, the next dinner, the
next day, and all of this is at the voting roles.
(01:36:26):
And your thoughts about the importance of Prop fifty not
only for your great state of California, but for the
rest of the nation.
Speaker 12 (01:36:35):
Yes, no, absolutely, you know, at a time when democracy
is under attack, we cannot.
Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Afford to be complacent.
Speaker 12 (01:36:42):
And so you know, democracy only survives when we show up.
And so we're actively talking to folks voters across the state,
whether it's at the doors, on the phones and our
neighborhoods and our own family group chats and making sure
that folks know that we cannot allow this administration to
rig the next election. So we need a safeguard against that,
(01:37:06):
and that is through Prop fifty. And we're seeing the
devastating cuts to working families, whether that is through cal
Fresh Snap, families are being affected, and this is a
way that we could say no, no more to these
devastating cuts, no more to massed agents rounding up families
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and including citizens and veterans alike.
Speaker 14 (01:37:32):
We are talking with Senator Sabrina Savantes of the Inland Empire,
Riverside and Elsa, Rito and many other communities in her district,
and it is so important for people to understand, folks
that LA in the greater Southern California area is not
just Hollywood and Hollywood sign and a bunch of people
(01:37:53):
going to red carpets in the Academy Awards. This is
a group of people, working class, middle class.
Speaker 7 (01:38:00):
We just talked to Dave Goldberg of many of his
teachers who live.
Speaker 14 (01:38:03):
In southern California and Central Valley and northern California too,
you know, and you need people who are going to
fight for them, and Senator Sarantes has done just that
with over six hundred million again talking about voter suppression issues,
talking about making sure people have access to the vote,
and these are all critical issues, Senator, and I wanted
(01:38:25):
to get your thoughts, you know, and the redistricting fight,
you know, to be able to get everybody a chance
to vote, and everybody a chance to vote either by mail.
Speaker 7 (01:38:37):
Or at the voting booth.
Speaker 14 (01:38:40):
All of these things to me are just so critical
as a fundamental base of democracy. But they're all being
challenge right now. You've obviously have worked very hard with
your colleagues to do just that. As I said, about
six hundred million dollars, some of that goes into to
voter protection and so forth. Talk to me about that,
because this is a big issue. We're going to be
talking Greg Palace tomorrow, who is an investigative journalist on
(01:39:03):
the issue of voter suppression around the country. California, guy
from LA give me your thoughts.
Speaker 12 (01:39:12):
So you know, I'm honored to be the chair of
the Senate Elections and Constitutional Amendments Committee, and I take
that responsibility seriously because it is our task to protect
our fundamental right to vote and ensure that our democracy
remains strong and resilient. And so I believe that, you know,
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we need to continue improving public trust in our elections,
and it's never been more urgent, especially as this administration
continues to spread this dangerous misinformation about elections integrity, particularly
here in the state of California, which is why we
had to work hard through the legislative front, where we
(01:39:55):
were able to get key bills signed into law that
I authored to really push back against not just the
power grab under this administration, but also against any federal
interference in our elections, which is why I was urging
to get SB eight fifty one through to strengthen California's
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defenses against that. And we just heard right the usdj
will be coming in and monitoring five different Registrar of
Voter sites in California. And my bill that is in effect,
will prohibit armed and uniformed federal agents from posting up
(01:40:38):
at voting locations. So if there is uniformed ICE or
CVP agents attempting to engage at voting locations, they will
be held liable, there will be criminal penalties, and so
we needed to just make sure that we got those
across the finish line. We will make sure that we
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protect the voices voters in California.
Speaker 20 (01:41:01):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (01:41:02):
And you know, we were able to pass really important
legislation UH this year, and we'll continue to work on
legislation next year as we enter the second year of
a two year session.
Speaker 14 (01:41:16):
It is so important and it's great that you know,
you have experience in the Assembly now in the Senate
for several years. UH, and it's so important to have,
you know, your experience growing up.
Speaker 21 (01:41:27):
UH.
Speaker 14 (01:41:27):
You know, it's important that people you know, you know,
you're part of the LGBT community. Uh, you're you're a Latina.
You know, it is important because a lot of cases.
Uh you look at Trump and he has attacked people,
you know, in your community, and not just in California
(01:41:48):
but all around the country.
Speaker 15 (01:41:50):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (01:41:50):
Talk to me about it as a Latina, as somebody
who's an lgbt Q person.
Speaker 7 (01:41:55):
It to me.
Speaker 14 (01:41:56):
Is so so vicious and sad that you know, people
are judged by the color of their skin or by
their sexual orientation.
Speaker 7 (01:42:08):
In twenty twenty five, my god.
Speaker 14 (01:42:10):
You know MLK talked about this in nineteen sixty three,
nineteen sixty that's sixty two years ago, but yet we're
still dealing with this.
Speaker 12 (01:42:21):
Tell us your story, right if yeah, no, absolutely, and
you know I will go back and share that. You know,
I used to be the director of a California voter project,
and so I've worked for many years to not just
register voters across the state, but I fundamentally believe that
you know, when more voices are heard, that benefits democracy, right,
(01:42:43):
that is how we best function. And so for me,
as when I was once the youngest Latina elected to
the state legislature, but as an openly Latina elected to
the state Senate, you know, my background and experience has
formed you know, how I approach policy and the work
(01:43:04):
that I do. And I believe it's important that you know,
we we lend our hand in that fight, right, And
so when I come together with my colleagues and I
get to share my lived experiences is how we expand
the voices in government. I was just with a group
(01:43:26):
of young college students where I was able to share
with them that you know, decisions don't just happen in
the halls of government. It happens at your own dinner table,
right when you're talking to your own family. So when
folks feel disconnected, it is up to us to share
the connection and connect the dots because what is happening
(01:43:49):
in our communities is very deep and we're filling it
every day, which is why I'm so committed to the
work that I am doing and will continue to do.
You know, this year alone, we were able not just
to strengthen the foundation of our democracy and protect our
most vulnerable voices in our communities, but we're able to
really also look at how do we make education more
(01:44:13):
accessible for our immigrant students. We have the largest immigrant
and documented population in the state of California, so what
are we doing to support their efforts in achieving the
goals higher learning? And I feel like I was in
a student too long ago, so I feel like I
could resonate and talk to those students who feel disconnected
(01:44:35):
and getting them back into why it is so important
to make sure their voice is heard not just in
local county politics, but you know, at the state level
and also in Washington, d C. Which comes back to
Prop fifty and why it's so important for them to
be involved and to make sure that they cast that
vote before November fourth.
Speaker 14 (01:44:58):
Well, I tell you, you know, this is your first time
on the program, and we look forward to having you
on again and again because your voice needs to be heard.
And if you consider a statewide office at some point
in your career, I know that we would love to
have you on and talk about that for the entire
the entire state, and for that matter, the country. Here
(01:45:18):
as well, let me talk to you a little bit
about what I think is kind of the horror show
that is going on around the country with these cutbacks
a little bit because, as I said, you know, when
somebody goes from Starbucks to soup lines, Starbucks lines to
soup lines, you know it, it really tugs at you.
(01:45:42):
And you know a lot of our callers were talking
yesterday and listeners to the to the words of Lee Blackman,
who is the federal director for sci u n Age
and all those government workers.
Speaker 7 (01:45:56):
They work closely with AFGE.
Speaker 14 (01:45:58):
As well, and you know, she beside herself that this
is what's happening, that you know, Trump came in, you know,
with an axe and is continuing to do this and
now we're looking at days of snap being cut off
and so on, and the insurance and so.
Speaker 7 (01:46:11):
On when you talk about you know, and this I.
Speaker 14 (01:46:16):
Was saying this earlier to David Goldberg at President of
the CTA. You know, I'm glad California is first and
people are getting this attention on Prop fifty because there
are a lot of people who are very progressive in
col I lived in Long Beach, I've lived in San Francisco,
I've lived in Venice Beach. I've lived in a lot
of different places, and you know, north north of San
(01:46:38):
Diego and Carlsbad, and you know, I had great experience
in California, as you know, a lot of amazing people,
not just intellectual you know, PhDs and multiple degrees, but
people who really care about the communities. And I think
it's so important to highlight what you are doing, what
(01:47:00):
your colleagues are doing in the states and in the Assembly,
what Governor Newsom is doing. And I think this is
really important. I'm really glad that California has a spotlight
on them because it really needs to be shown. Talk
to me about your pride in the Golden State and
your pride in how people, you know, need to look
(01:47:22):
at what has happened, because you don't always get that
because we're always focused on these stupid swing state scenarios.
And there's great people in Michigan and Wisconsin. We talked
to our good friend John Nichols, is the native of Madison,
and they're fantastic. But I think it's important that, you know,
I mean, I come from Massachusetts has got a great
progressive tradition too, as does New York and so forth.
But I think it's important because California is, you know,
(01:47:46):
it's the largest state in the country and what is
it the fifth largest economy, fourth largest economy in the world.
But yet you know, the rest of the nation looks
at it and it's like yoah, well, you know they're
they're just doing their great things and convertibles in Hollywood
and you know, and that's that's all it. Yain, And
of course Trump just you know, pounds on that stuff.
So talk to me about, you know, the importance of
(01:48:07):
Because of your legislation, because of the legislation of your colleagues,
California has led the nation on the issue. I mean,
you turned around the smog. I mean, that's just amazing stuff.
On environment, on education, on a lot of things, your.
Speaker 12 (01:48:21):
Thoughts, absolutely, and I'm proud of our state's ability to
lead and lead the nation on so many different policy issues.
But you know, right now, what we see the biggest
need is around food security because of this federal shutdown,
(01:48:45):
which we don't even have. There's no side and end
to it, right, and so we need to make sure
that we are doing what we can to support Californians
during their most trying time, especially as we are nearing
the holiday season. And so we're proud that we were
able to fast track eighty million dollars for food banks
(01:49:07):
across our state, and we're actually using the National Guard
and California volunteers have been deployed to food banks across
our state to support so many families, including our military families.
You know, starting November one, that card will not get
(01:49:27):
those CalFresh recipients are not going to see any money
placed on their card. That is, five point five million
Californians who typically receive benefits will not get that assistance
until this shutdown is over. And so we know that counties,
including Riverside County today dance of this expected delay, and
(01:49:52):
so we need to make sure that we continue to
step up and show other states what it means to
lead and how we deployer National Guard during the most
trying times. In my district alone, we have one hundred
and thirty six thousand colfresh recipients. One hundred and thirty
six thousand recipients, And so I know what this means
(01:50:13):
for my communities out here in the Inland Empire, and
my colleagues know what it means for their own constituencies.
And so I'm grateful for our governor who has led
on many fronts, and so just we need to continue
to stay focused and respond to the needs of our constituencies,
and I will continue to do that here in my
(01:50:35):
role as a state senator.
Speaker 14 (01:50:37):
We're talking with Senator Sabrina Servantes, a rising star in
the world of California politics, but more importantly, somebody cares
about her community and has put it front and center
for people in Riverside and the Inland Empire.
Speaker 7 (01:50:53):
As she has described.
Speaker 14 (01:50:56):
You know, I want to invite you on again, Senator,
as move forward here in the final minutes, but I
must tell you I think you have a great press
team on top of it all that you gave us
a lot of stuff to talk about and won't be
able to cover all of it. But I think that,
you know, providing the money at the state level, you know,
(01:51:20):
to people who need it, whether it's the education, whether
it's the food stuff.
Speaker 7 (01:51:23):
You know, and of course.
Speaker 14 (01:51:25):
Housing is a major issue in the state, that matter
around the country, and it's you know, and I'm glad
that the language has gone from homelessness to houselessness because
in a lot of cases, you know, people have a home,
it's just that they can't afford to live in the
house that is the home. So talk to me about that,
because I know that's been a fight. You know, a
(01:51:46):
lot of people may not be aware of it, a
big one, you know.
Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
Over the last several years.
Speaker 14 (01:51:52):
Talk to me about where you think this fight is
going and what needs to happen for California residents.
Speaker 12 (01:52:01):
Does it relates to housing in particular as.
Speaker 14 (01:52:04):
It relates to housing rent, you know, just did the
cost of housing for so many people in the state.
Speaker 12 (01:52:14):
What we were able to continue putting additional monies through
the HAPP funding, which is our Homelessness, Housing Assistance and
Prevention program. We gave an additional five hundred million for
that next round funding that our cities and counties need
right in order to address our homelessness crisis, and that
(01:52:36):
will continue to be my commitment and as I know
it will be for my colleagues and the legislature as
while given our housing challenges, the Inland Empire is actually
the fastest growing region, not just in the entire state,
but in the entire nation. And so some of the
work that I've been able to do because a lot
of my work surrounds health higher edusing in our student population.
(01:53:02):
And so we were able to pass the first of
its kind in our state, joint housing project between you
see Riverside and Riverside Community College District to provide student housing,
affordable student housing. We were able to allocate one hundred
and twenty six million dollars in their state budget for that.
Students just got housed there. They're in their fifth week,
(01:53:24):
and so you know, these are the type of projects
that we need to see continued investment in across our state.
I think the inn Empire is really just share shaping
that narrative, and we are hoping that will follow in
(01:53:44):
other communities across the state, but in the across the nation.
Right the decisions that we are making here and out
of Sacramento is impacting millions of people, and we are
setting that trend, as you said, not just in housing policy,
but climate policy, right in socialist issues.
Speaker 14 (01:54:08):
Absolutely, I want to want to one more before we
before we end our segment again, we'd love to have
you back on the issue of MAP and talk to
us about the Military Articulation Platform and how you're helping veterans.
(01:54:28):
For a lot of people who don't know what that's
all about, give us a little bit of a background
here in the final couple of minutes.
Speaker 12 (01:54:36):
Absolutely so, Military Articulation Platform. This is something we've been
working on for a number of years to help our
student veterans returning from service to for their skills and
prior learning into college course credits. This was something that
was first implemented at Norco Community College. Now it is
implemented across seventy six different campuses our community college system
(01:55:01):
and is now a model for prior learning across the
entire nation. And so I'm grateful for the work that
has been done. We've put in millions of dollars to
scale this out to the entire state. I've spoken to
so many veterans who have shared their direct experience and
how this has helped them transition and how they were
(01:55:22):
able to not just get credit for prior learning, but
they are now into the workforce, and you know, it's
just brings me so much joy as someone who has
a background my family who has served in the military
as well. I'm just grateful for the commitment that we
put into this program and the countless amount of veterans
(01:55:45):
we've been able to assist through MAP, and so I
know that we have more work to do, at least
for the nearly one million veterans in our state and
look forward to doing that.
Speaker 14 (01:55:57):
Well, you know with what Trump's foreign polish she is,
and we had on Larry Korb and Brian Garvey yesterday.
Corba cours is the former Deputy Defense Secretary under Reagan
now at the Center of American Progress and Brian Garvey
as Massachusetts Peace Action the Peace Action community, and they
are just beside themselves in in this whole effort in
both the the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico. With
(01:56:21):
what's happening with Venezuela and the shootings there and the killings,
you know, an American military are in their way and
also just It's one other thing that we talked about
yesterday with Larry In a couple of weeks ago, as
a guy who's a Vietnam Vet himself, you know, is
that they're they're they're they're making a mockery of the
(01:56:42):
role of the military in these cities. They're picking up
garbage in Washington, d c uh Larry sar At first
hating himself.
Speaker 7 (01:56:49):
He lives in the nation's capital. You know.
Speaker 14 (01:56:52):
This is the other thing too that we need to
bring to the light, is that we're not using the military,
you know, you know, in in a way in which
was to them. And as you know when when John
McCain was alive, the senator from Arizona, you know, he said,
I don't like people who who got caught by the enemy.
I mean, it's just really degradating. And I know that
(01:57:12):
this means a lot to because you have family in
the military. Your quick thoughts on on where we stand
and how this dangers in dangers are are fighting men
and women.
Speaker 12 (01:57:25):
It is degragating and that is certainly not how you know,
how we should be doing things. You know, I certainly
and focus on the work that we're doing here in California,
and you know, this is actually where we get things done,
and this is how we're we're uplifting our veterans throughout
the state. And I just I'm hopeful that things will
(01:57:45):
turn around. But again, I really want to make sure
voters and Californians know that we are here to uplift
the nearly forty million Californians and my office is always
here to be of assistance and to continue doing the
good work. And it's it's about collaboration, you know, as
you mentioned all the good work that we've done collectively.
(01:58:07):
No meaningful change happens alone. Right sure takes to take
the village, and we will continue to do that work together.
Speaker 14 (01:58:17):
It's a real pleasure to have you on. Senator Sabrina
Cervantes represents the thirty first district of the State Senate,
including communities from El Crito to Riverside, Good Hope and
Meadowbrook and so on and so forth. I couldn't name
all the towns enough time, but many of them. Thank
you so very much, Senator, look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 12 (01:58:42):
Certainly, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7 (01:58:46):
We just have a minute here before we go to break.
Speaker 14 (01:58:49):
We can quickly get a call in to our good
friend John in Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (01:58:55):
John, I know you spent some time.
Speaker 14 (01:58:56):
In California and in the West and New mex To
Go and so forth. It's I think really important to
hear the folks representing California, both as as a UH
teacher and of course the California Teachers Association as well
as a senator. Any quick comments, Uh, not really, No,
(01:59:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (01:59:24):
It's okay, no worries. We appreciate it.
Speaker 14 (01:59:27):
Anyways, Well, thank you, I appreciate it. We'll talk to
you in the next hour. It is the Jeff Santo Show.
We'll come right back with Governor O'Malley and the former
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one in this fight for Prop fifty. Go and vote
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Two.
Speaker 14 (02:07:46):
And of course we heard from a new and I
think you're gonna be hearing a lot of her. She
is a rising star in California politics, the state senator
from the Inland Empire, Riverside and many other community He's
Senator Sabrina Cervantes and we're looking forward to having a
chance to chat with her again as well. We go
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from the West coast to the East coast with the
former mayor of Baltimore, a former governor of Maryland, and
last time this nation has had a Commissioner of Social
Security compared to the looney bin that's now in front
of us thanks to Donald Trump. Our good friend, Governor
Martin O'Malley joins us on the phone. Governor, great to
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have you back, a pleasure, pleasure to have you on
this new Thursday lineup that we have, and of course
your good friend and mine FDR's grandson, Jim.
Speaker 7 (02:08:41):
Roosevelt will follow you.
Speaker 14 (02:08:43):
So it is a fantastic hour not only to talk
about social security, but to talk about democratic politics as well.
Speaker 7 (02:08:51):
Governor. Great to have you back with us. Hello, Hey, Jeff,
thank you.
Speaker 31 (02:08:55):
It's good to be with you. I'm talking to you
from Charleston, South Caro And where I was campaigning with
the candidate running for Congress here named Mac the Ford,
who was a social security champion. He's running in what
in the district that Nancy Mace has represented not so
very well, and so we were doing we did three
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crowded town halls all about social security down here in
different parts of the district and then the low country.
And it's great to be with you. And I'm always
honored to be a warm up act for Annie Roosevelt,
especially Jim Roosevelt. So good to be with you for
a few minutes here. I'm going to beg your indulgence
eggs at a little before the half hours up, but anywhere.
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Good to be with you talking social security.
Speaker 14 (02:09:42):
Huh yeah, indeed, well let's start right where you are.
What was the reaction of people, you know, to to
the candidate and to yourself when they talk about the
fact that Social Security, you know, is being chopped and
people are being laid off left and right. You know,
I would to one in Massachusetts. You know there was
one person at the counter. That person was disabled. You know,
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it's it's just, you know, it's just incredible. What is happening.
What was the reaction when you talk to them about
what is happening in nine months since the psychopath has
taken over and I'm wondering.
Speaker 7 (02:10:21):
You know, how alarm they are about this.
Speaker 14 (02:10:24):
What was the reaction when you went back and forth
on the question and answers, yeah.
Speaker 31 (02:10:32):
I mean right now, you know, this issue is one
of the things I said today and everybody's head was nodding,
and or maybe mac the Ford said it. I forget
which of us said it. But it used to be
that we could when on that day of the month
when we usually got our Social Security benefit direct deposits
that have that we would assume that it was always there.
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We had that peace of mind. But because of the
wrecking ball, these guys have taken to the operations of
Social Security, the numbers of people that they have pushed
out of the agency, reducing its staff by a greater
amount and a shorter period of time than ever before.
People everybody nodded when I said, I'll bet you you
go on and you open your app and look into
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your account and see if it's there, and you do
it with a little bit of bated breath. Oh thank goodness,
it still came this month. So the good news is
one of them that the democracy is very focused.
Speaker 7 (02:11:30):
On this issue.
Speaker 31 (02:11:31):
They know that the people know that Trump and Doge
and Mousque before them have been messing with Social Security
and this is one of those issues, unlike others in
our public debates, that is actually supported by eighty percent
of people. So when the democracy rises up as they
did when the Doge boys wanted to place the whole
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lot of Social Security offices on the chopping block and said, hey,
give us the best offer we want to these buildings,
the people called their congress people. Congress people both parties
pushed back and they said, okay, we're not going to
do that anymore. And similarly, when they said they wanted
to cut half of their IT staff, and some of us,
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like myself and also George Bush's Commissioner of Social Security,
said hey, you were endangering benefits and creating a high
risk of a benefit interruption. They pulled back so and
then MOA. Recently they said they were going to cut
off paper checks for the half a million Americans who
received the benefits they've earned in paper. But I think
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they pushed back from that. Maybe that was just a saint.
It's interesting that they said at the same time that
it was announced that the current commissioner's former company, five
Serve was going to get the contract after skipping over
the top bidder and the second bidder pulling out, it's
going to get the contract for the direct express debit cards.
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That he was telling unbankable people in poor and rural
areas they have to go get it.
Speaker 22 (02:13:05):
So, yeah, you can't make it up.
Speaker 31 (02:13:07):
It doesn't conflict his interest. But perhaps we've made them
pull back from that because a lot of congress people
have problems with that once they heard from the public
and homeless providers, people who provide homeless services, because oftentimes
it's homeless people that prefer to have you know, they're
check mailed to the one stable address they might have,
which might be in a given city, you know, Catholic
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charities or some other organization like that. So people are focused.
They know It's a long slog, but I'm I'm encouraged
that the crowds we saw. I do believe that the
way they're messing with Social Security has rubbed a lot
of people the wrong way, and the democracy is alert
to the threat.
Speaker 7 (02:13:48):
Well, I tell you, I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 14 (02:13:50):
And and look, you know an article an ARP you know,
talks about Social Security administration right now, I mean disability
claims that could deny benefits to hundreds of thousands of
people and disproportionately affect older adults according to this article.
Speaker 31 (02:14:09):
And you know, I mean, ah, good, I mean, I'm
glad you saw it.
Speaker 7 (02:14:12):
Good.
Speaker 31 (02:14:13):
Not good that they're doing that, but I'm glad, No,
I'm glad are he is putting it out there too.
Speaker 14 (02:14:18):
Yes, exactly, and thank you for that. I think it's
Sharon Jason who wrote the article. This to me is
just disgusting. You know, again, as an American, we've seen
and we were talking yesterday with our friends at SEIU
and AGE and they were talking about the cutbacks to
election to federal workers not far from you know, your
communities and in obviously in Maryland and every state in
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the country, and what is happening there, you know, the
line that came out of of the Age Sei un
Age federal director one by name of Lee Blackman. She
was telling us that, you know, these these workers who
would go to the Starbucks line, you know, four five
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dollars for a special coffee or whatever.
Speaker 7 (02:15:03):
They're now at a soup line.
Speaker 14 (02:15:04):
They now, you know, needing to worry about the first
meal of the day, the second meal of the day,
and just to survive. And this is America and twenty
twenty five, Governor, this should not be in the richest
country in the world. And yet we are treating people
who are full time workers who are trying to do
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the best thing for the government. They don't you don't
work in government. You don't work as a federal government employee,
you know, to make millions. There there are other avenues
if that's what your goal is. And you know, and
and they are being treated as as Donald Trump has
treated a lot of people unless they're the part of
the one percent or the people who who he gets
money from, you know, like like garbage. And you know
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it it. We talked to yesterday to Larry cor Reagan's
deputy Defense secretary. You know, a Vietnam Vett, a guy
who was a Reagan's deputy Defense secretary, and he's seeing
that people in military are picking up garbage in the
streets of Washington, DC.
Speaker 7 (02:16:04):
You know this is it's degradation to the capnaging guardsmen.
Speaker 31 (02:16:09):
Yeah, I've seen some of those National guardsmen. They give
you glances through your windshielders. They're walking across in front
of you, like, hey, man, I don't want to be
here either. It's horrible the way he abuses our armed
forces and treats them like theres little his little pawns.
Can we talk a little Let's go a little deeper
on that disability regulation that ARP is.
Speaker 7 (02:16:30):
Can the alarm bell about?
Speaker 26 (02:16:32):
So?
Speaker 31 (02:16:32):
The disability program was brought into existence in nineteen fifty three,
the disability aspect of social security and Dwight Eisenhower, the
great Republican President who said any party to touch his
social security will not be a party much longer. That
president signed the disability portion so that if you catch
a disability, you're injured on the job, you can't work,
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you should be able to apply if you've worked a
requisite number of years for your disability insurance that you've
earned right now because of the staff reductions across the
board really House Republicans driving staffing at Social Security and
the fifty Disability Examiner offices in each of the fifty states.
It now takes longer than ever to get that initial
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disability determination. We started to finally get on top of
the backlog and start to push it down. It's still
going down, but instead of taking one hundred and twenty days,
it now takes. Like I'm here in South Carolina, it
takes three hundred and sixty eight days for your initial
disability allowance or denial, and then if you appeal it,
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you go back to the same office for another three
hundred and sixty eight days. So more people now die
Jeff awaiting their initial disability determination than ever before in
the history of the program. And so what is the
Trump administration's response to that. They want to change the
regulations to make it harder for people over fifty to
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be granted an allowance. In other words, they want to
change the regulations that used to give in the consideration
of the number of factors they used to consider age
if you're above fifty and you get a disability. The
logic and the policy and the compassionate policy was that
it's harder for you to find other work and harder
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for you to be retrained and rehired in a different job.
If you are over fifty, well they want to do
away with that and estimates very but it's anywhere from
thirty to forty percent fewer people over age fifty that
will get those disability allowances that they've earned. And oh,
by the way, as most of your callers know, if
you're under fifty, I mean, if you're fifty, but if
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you're not sixty five, you don't have Medicare yet either.
So that's the regulation they're pushing. Trying to again take
another wrecking ball to Social Security, taking a chunk here
a chunk. They're reducing its staff to skeleton staff. You
can either believe the Trump administration when it says it's
never been better. You can believe you're lying eyes while
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walking into your own field office in your community and
you'll see ten windows, but only two of them open
because of the reductions of staff. It makes no sense
people already paid for it, if it doesn't add a
dime to the deficit. If they allow Social Security to
go back up to the easily one point two percent
overhead that they used to have when they provided a
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high rate of customer service. So that's kind of the
state of play.
Speaker 7 (02:19:32):
Jeff.
Speaker 31 (02:19:32):
There was another article today about the fact that the
current Commissioner of Social Security it within all of the
financial reportings he had a company called fire Serve, the
same one that recently got the direct Express debit cards
that he's telling people they have to go to suppose
his stock. A company called Fireserve took forty four percent
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drop hit in their stock when the new CEO revealed
that they had grossly overestimated their projected earnings to their
shareholders and investors just shortly before the current Commissioner of
Social Security left the agency and then sold his stock
(02:20:20):
for a value that's twice what it's worth today now
that they had to admit that they over stated their earnings.
So there you go. That's the good, the bad, the ugly.
The good is that people are alert to this, and
so I thank you for having Jim Roosevelt on a beg.
Speaker 7 (02:20:35):
You allow me to go.
Speaker 31 (02:20:36):
I've got to go and get through airport and security
and catch a plane and the like.
Speaker 7 (02:20:42):
But social we're scurity.
Speaker 31 (02:20:44):
Alive and well only because the people of America are
defending it. So people need to stay vigilant and tell
their congress people hands off Social Security, tell hump to
stop taking a recon well.
Speaker 5 (02:20:55):
To the program.
Speaker 14 (02:20:57):
Exactly, it's so great to do it, and just add
a couple of things. Call Congress two O two two
two five thirty one twenty one is the Capitol Hill switchboard.
You can doctor the senator, you can talk to the congressman,
congress person, and you know, do your job as a
citizen and make sure there's a watchdog on this administration
which is obviously out of control. Uh, governor, great to
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have you on. We look forward, save travels back man.
Appreciate you, Thank you, Thank you, Governor. O'Malley, former Commissioner
of Social Security under the Biden administration. All you people
who would tell me that, oh Biden is this, Biden
is that? Now look what you have? You know, this
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is the point. And again I was actually one of
the people early on, just after twenty twenty two, when
the results were not that good, even though some consultants
were telling.
Speaker 7 (02:21:46):
Us, oh yeah it was, we didn't get blown away.
Speaker 14 (02:21:48):
As if that's a really a thing to cheer about. Please,
that should have been the time when when President Biden
did some good things, he reached out. He was at
sixty percent approval ratings with help from Bernie Sanders and
the American rescue plan that is out of the pandemic disaster.
That first Trump did, you know, didn't have any idea
(02:22:09):
what was going on. Finally people got to him. Of course,
it was a Democratic House at that point in twenty
nineteen and twenty that forced some legislation that eventually got
as the vaccinations and so forth. I give Trump for
moving that forward, and it was but the vaccinations took
place in January under our friend President Biden. But you know,
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if he would have given an off in twenty twenty
three or early twenty twenty four to an open primary
and whether Harris would have won or whomever, you would
have had a much different scenario.
Speaker 7 (02:22:41):
And now we have Trump in office. Just a thought, but.
Speaker 14 (02:22:44):
Again, just think an O'Malley in Social Security in Washington
right now. You wouldn't be having these conflict of interests
with DeFi serve with the new Social Security Commissioner. You
wouldn't have disability on the edge of the cliff for
those over the age of fifty. All these things it's
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how you vote, folks. And that's why I went back
to you know, the importance and the California folks that
we had on today and Senator of Savantes and as
well as the California Teaching Association President David Goldberg. They
both understand how critical it is, what the ramifications is
are if you don't pass Prop fifty in California and
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the rest of the country. As what the lines in
the late sixties in the Chicago Democratic Convention, the.
Speaker 7 (02:23:35):
Whole world is watching. The whole world is watching. I
was twenty five years old at the time.
Speaker 14 (02:23:39):
But the point is is that, you know, the fact
is this the Democratic Party is when it's bold and
it's progressive, like it is when it was under Roosevelt
right through to you know, Johnson, before Vietnam when everything
kind of fell up art and now a little bit
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of Obama, a little bit of Biden. You know, we
have done some good things for this country. We just
need to communicate it better and we need to push
for bold issues.
Speaker 7 (02:24:09):
Who can't do half measures either.
Speaker 14 (02:24:11):
That's some reasons of why the Senate, you know, and
and particularly the leadership there has been in my opinion,
you know, not ready for prime time and not bold
enough on the bold initiatives, and you know, you know,
better candidates and so on and so forth. That's why
I really like Planter in Maine, you know, because he
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could win that race right now, fifteen points ahead of Collins.
You know, you get behind him, put the right people
around him, he could be a real star in the making.
And you know, again, Mills is not a bad candidate,
but I think seeing Platinir is better. And he reaches people.
And that's an important thing. Is if you're going to
be having somebody in the Senate and a key vote,
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that you're going to be able to.
Speaker 7 (02:24:53):
Rely on them.
Speaker 14 (02:24:54):
And I think Mills would be a reliable vote. But
you want somebody who's pushing, not just sort of staying
behind and saying, yeah, I'll vote yes, but I'll vote no.
But the point is is that you want somebody who
is you know, what, did.
Speaker 7 (02:25:11):
Sarah Palen say, She's mavericky?
Speaker 14 (02:25:14):
In some cases you did need to be a maverick
or a pushing aka Bernie Sanders. So those are all
big issues as we move into twenty six. Democrats can
only going to win the House, which is so critical,
but also win the Senate.
Speaker 7 (02:25:30):
You can't do one without the other.
Speaker 14 (02:25:31):
They go hand in hand to apple pie and ice
cream as a positive. So this is to me something
that we need to really focus on. And if we
do that, I think we'll have a big, big victory
in November of twenty six. But we can't, you know,
start the full throttle. You know, Tom Warner of the
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Red Sox owner of course, did Bill Cosby Show as
a producer and so forth. That's his back around Roseanne.
You know, he said that about the Red Sox and
they didn't do much on the full throttle department. They
finished I think in third place that year, a couple
of years ago. And the point is is that you
need to go full throttle, but you need to really
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move in the direction where Americans are.
Speaker 7 (02:26:17):
And Americans are.
Speaker 14 (02:26:18):
Absolutely aghast at what Trump has done to everything from
the military and the military excursions, you know, with the
Velenezuela situation, that's just one small piece of the puzzle
to you know, today he's talking about, you know, testing
nuclear weapons.
Speaker 7 (02:26:37):
You know, this is out of control stuff.
Speaker 14 (02:26:39):
And then he comes back as all, I would like
to destroy them all and all. I mean, you know,
it's always this passive aggressive nonsense, but as unfortunate, the
nonsense becomes reality and people's lives are ruined in the process.
Speaker 7 (02:26:52):
You know, you got all of the.
Speaker 14 (02:26:54):
Issues on the domestic side again. We're going to look
to run the replay tomorrow. We will do that in
Los Angeles on KABC for the listeners there tomorrow evening
at seven pm or eight pm Pacific time. But we're
going to try to do that in the live show
as well, if not tomorrow, then sometime next week. And
(02:27:17):
I think it's important because a lot of people understand
when their neighbors, their relatives, their own family members are suffering.
They have good jobs at good wages, then Trump comes
and they're in soup lines from Starbucks to soup lines.
(02:27:39):
And I think that that to me is resonated and
resonating with a lot of our callers, and I think
that is an important piece of how we have to
remember what is at stake in this election. November fourth
in California for those who are voting in New York City,
and we're very excited to be going into the New
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York City on Monday on AM fifteen hundred w g
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New Jersey in fact, the signal an AM fifteen hundred
gets into northern New Jersey, and of course is Virginia
as well with mss S. Bamberger. So lot a lot
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of things going on. Next week, we'll be looking to
cover it all. We hope to be you know, talking
to people who are going to be new leaders of these.
Speaker 7 (02:28:33):
Of these states and then of these cities.
Speaker 14 (02:28:35):
In the case of Mamdani, a good friend her boyd
is trying to make that happen with an interview with
hopefully the new mayor of New York City in the
coming days and weeks. So we're excited about this, but
it's it's going to take a full team effort to
to basically keep the focus, the progressive populist focused on
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what is necessary for this country. And you know, we
can't Frankly, there is only one way to go, and
that's up. You know, we can't get any worse than
where we are right now. And frankly, it is time,
you know, for Democrats to continue to show spine, to
continue to show leadership, and to move beyond just that
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Trump is evil. We all know that, and to offer
their own ideas. That's why I think the the election
of Mondani in New York City will open up a
lot a lot of things, some which may not necessarily
make it to the final stages of legislation in New
York City, but a lot of them will. And I
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think he's going to change a lot of minds on
the issue of rent, on the issue of housing in general,
and a number of other things that he's talking about,
food security, etc. All right, Jim Roosevelt, grandson of FDR,
co chair of the DNC Rules Committee, We'll be with
us on video after this time.
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hundred from three to six, and we start that on Monday.
We're very excited about being in the city in northern
New Jersey as well. It's a fantastic opportunity to talk
(02:35:06):
to to hundreds of thousands of people as we move
along here. Kevin, just to let you know, we don't
have I don't have a video feed, so I'm going
to have to work on that too.
Speaker 7 (02:35:19):
So well as we work on there we go.
Speaker 14 (02:35:27):
It is always good to be seen and heard at
the same time as we have a great opportunity as.
Speaker 7 (02:35:35):
We always will do a weekly here on the.
Speaker 14 (02:35:38):
Jeff Santo Show with the grandson of the fantastic FDR,
said it a hundred times, if not more, that we
need to pull together a coalition. That FDR did and
won four elections and all of them were I wouldn't
say easy. Nothing is easy in the political world, but
they weren't close either.
Speaker 7 (02:35:59):
That's the roadmap, that's what we have to do.
Speaker 14 (02:36:01):
The twenty first century version of the Bill of Rights
that he talked about in nineteen forty four, and of
course he passed away a year later. He never could
acknowledge them, and people like Alan Minsky and our good
friend Harvey k and others are talking about the twenty
first century Bill of Rights. All that, and our friend
(02:36:21):
mister Jim Roosevelt, attorney at law at Vero Law and
of course the dnc CO Chair of the Rules and
Bylaws Committee. He joins us from his home in Cambridge.
So good to see you, Jim. Happy Thursday, my friend.
Speaker 7 (02:36:38):
Great to see you Jeff as well. Fantastic.
Speaker 14 (02:36:42):
Well, I got to tell you we just spoke to
your counterparty, says Helo and Governor O'Malley. You know, the
more I see these Trumpers and what they're doing, it's
just an incredible AARP reports today about you know, thousands,
hundreds of thousands of people who could lose their benefits
(02:37:04):
and disabilities, particularly those over the age of fifty. You know,
I just think of this. It's just it's just every
day you either pick up the paper or you read
a news clip, I know, a you know, an article online,
and it's just more destruction not only of what your
grandfather did, but of you know, decades upon decades of
(02:37:27):
what the Democratic Party has done. And I don't know
how aggravating it is to somebody who is not only
a major part of the Democratic Party. But about what
your grandfather did, what your father did as congressman in
the great city of Los Angeles where.
Speaker 7 (02:37:46):
We are heard on KCAA right now.
Speaker 14 (02:37:49):
To me, this is this you gotta you gotta, You've
gotta be able to push back and push back hard
and do it non violently. But it to someone like you,
who has you know, fought for for decades to see
that your grandfather's ideas you know, are continued, it must
(02:38:10):
be very frustrating.
Speaker 34 (02:38:12):
Well, I'm it's appalling actually that they will use starvation
to get their ideological program and acted. But I'm very
pleased at the way Democratic governors and Democratic attorneys general
are pushing back Democratic governors, and I feel very badly
(02:38:34):
for people in the Red States where this is not happening.
Democratic governors are moving money around to continue what we
used to call food stamps we now call snap benefits
UH after tomorrow, but that only lasts for a limited
(02:38:54):
period of time. Local charities and local city government says
here in Cambridge are also moving money around to pay
food benefits to people, and most importantly, the AGS. The
Democratic attorneys general are in court trying to show the
(02:39:18):
illegality of this withholding of appropriated funds appropriated by the Congress,
who's supposed to have the power of the purse, that
the Constitution and the laws passed under it do not
seem to matter to mister Trump, and moreover, they don't
(02:39:40):
matter to Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon and the other
people around him.
Speaker 7 (02:39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (02:39:50):
Now, this is a trioca of people who you know,
have nothing but contempt for a better way of life
for the average American, for the working class, and the
the h for hate unfortunately becomes a big part of
what is happening now. And you know, on and on
(02:40:12):
and on we go. But I point to something else too.
You know, Reverend Jesse Jackson, you know who's going through
a difficult time now in Parkinson had his son on yesterday,
Congressman Jonathan Jackson, and you know, he said, we have
to keep we have to keep going. You know, his
father well known in nineteen eighty for saying keep hope
(02:40:34):
alive in a lot of ways.
Speaker 7 (02:40:36):
I think that's so important. When we see and we.
Speaker 14 (02:40:38):
Had on our friends you know from Nage, Seiu and Age,
and we had a really an emotional interview with Lee Blackman,
and she is the federal director for our friend David
Holloway's group. And what she was saying is that they're
going from getting in line for Starbucks and you know,
(02:41:02):
and they're expensive coffee at six seven bucks or whatever.
You know, you and I are the dunkin Donuts crap.
But the fact is as you go from there to
soup lines. And this is what federal workers and workers
in general, and of course the staff benefits were seeing
is going to see this too. And states that don't
have a democratic governor, and let me just tell you again,
(02:41:24):
and you know this as well as anybody.
Speaker 7 (02:41:27):
The elections matter.
Speaker 14 (02:41:29):
You know, democratic governors around the country are unified, you know,
middle of the country, East and West. You know, we
don't have many in the South, but you know the
ones that are there and in North Carolina as example
of doing the right thing. And this has to be
(02:41:50):
the way that we need to continue to go forward.
Speaker 34 (02:41:54):
Your thoughts, well, I saw an interview with a Republican
lawmaker a couple of days ago, and he was confronted
with the statistic that most people who get snap benefits
are employed, they just don't make enough money to buy
enough food for their family to last all month, and
his response will tell them to get a better job.
Speaker 7 (02:42:15):
Then you know, it's it's it's comments like that is
you know that really?
Speaker 14 (02:42:21):
You know, if we weren't on radio, I would I
would use the F bomb, but I don't want to
get fined and I don't want to, you know, do
something that uh.
Speaker 7 (02:42:32):
Takes away from the real issues.
Speaker 14 (02:42:34):
But this is what people, you know, are dealing with
when you have people who just don't care. Jim, they
don't care because if they did, we wouldn't be in
this situation. We wouldn't be having federal workers and sup lines,
we wouldn't be having snap benefit issues. And if you're
not a democratic state, we're an attorney general who's a
(02:42:54):
Democrat as well.
Speaker 7 (02:42:56):
You're screwed. And this is where we are. And it's sad.
Speaker 34 (02:43:00):
So uh sometimes these spouses of politicians say the quiet
part out loud and we were all missed by when
Milania wore the shirt, wore the shirt that said I
don't care.
Speaker 12 (02:43:14):
Do you?
Speaker 7 (02:43:16):
Yeah? Yeah, now we know what it meant.
Speaker 14 (02:43:19):
Yes, well, good memory, I remember that too. I wouldn't
know where she is some days, but uh, you know,
the here's something else. And we're going talking with Jim
Roosevelt here on the Jeff Santo Show. The phone number
to join is A three three five four five five
three three three. I want to talk a little bit about,
(02:43:41):
you know, some of these attorney generals, you know, doing
the right thing at Journey General Campbell here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 7 (02:43:49):
This is to me important pieces of the puzzle. You know,
the lawsuits. You know, you're a barrister. You're a lawyer.
Speaker 14 (02:44:00):
When you're not on the uh, this is the political part.
And even in the political part, you have some legal responsibilities.
But you know, to me, we if we if we
don't have the courts, we're really out of you know,
complete control. And I want to ask you about, you know,
the situation with the Supreme Court and and the concerns
(02:44:23):
we have there. Uh, you know, because they basically have
given him a Trump immunity to do anything he wants.
And I'm wondering if this would lead and your grandfather, uh,
you know, try to do something. And I don't know
if if the next president, maybe it's Gavin Newsom, who knows, well,
we'll try to do the same thing. You're not going
(02:44:44):
to pack the courts, but you know, if you expand
the courts to one thing. But you know, you also
need to figure out because I don't know if there
is anybody you know, you would think Roberts, but his thing,
particularly to African Americans and voting suppression issues is completely
uh to the right of the Hill of the Hunt.
But I think that we need to have a plan
(02:45:05):
going into twenty twenty nine, you know, to whether it's
eleven or thirteen members. And we also need to figure
out is there somebody maybe it's Barrett, you know, a
fellow Catholic. She was a notre dame. So maybe there's
something that will you know, click on your head. But
I think that that is a really important thing as
(02:45:27):
we move forward here, and it should be discussed whether
it's in twenty six or up to twenty eight about
the Supreme Court, because you know, the Republicans always use that.
We don't talk about it much as Dems. Your thoughts, well,
I think.
Speaker 34 (02:45:42):
The Republicans, strategically, I'm not saying in principle what I'm
saying in strategies, I've.
Speaker 7 (02:45:50):
Done really well.
Speaker 34 (02:45:52):
They have the whole after they couldn't do what they
wanted to do when Trump's first term they sat back.
They didn't wait. They did Project twenty twenty five every day,
day in and day out, a different way of frustrating
people's rights, people's ability for food and shelter, and they
(02:46:14):
worked on it every day. They came up with a
very comprehensive plan. Similarly, even earlier, under the advice of
a memo of a Republican appointee Supreme Court justice in
the nineteen eighties, Just Powell, they came up with a
(02:46:36):
plan fulfilling the courts with right wing justices, in particular
the Supreme Court. We democrats, we progressives, said, oh yeah,
we got to vote for the good guys. By the way,
they'll appoint good people to the court. We didn't articulate
a plan for that, and we meant it, but most
(02:46:57):
people didn't understand it. Most people didn't understand that when
you vote, when you vote for a progressive candidate, you
are voting not just for their programs, and you might
not agree with all of them, you might agree with
six out of ten or something like that, but you're
also voting on who will be on the courts. You're
(02:47:19):
voting on who will have a lifetime appointment. Remember it's
not only the Supreme Court that gets lifetime appointments.
Speaker 2 (02:47:25):
It's every federal Circuit Court of Appeals judge and every
local federal district judge gets a lifetime appointment. So when
you vote for a Republican president and a Republican majority
in the Senate, you're voting for the long term future,
either for this country or against this country. And I
(02:47:48):
don't think our people were sufficiently impressed early enough with
that consequence of how they vote.
Speaker 34 (02:47:57):
I mean, if we go back to, you know, to
take an example that I think I can use now
because it's far enough back when some of our people
voted for Ralph Nader, right, they voted Ralph Nader said
at the time, and I actually argued with him about this,
(02:48:18):
there's not a dime's worth of difference between the Democrats
and the Republicans. That's why I'm running.
Speaker 14 (02:48:25):
Yeah, that kind of talk get, says George W. Bush
in the Iraq War and the worst economy since Herbert Hoover.
Speaker 7 (02:48:31):
Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 34 (02:48:32):
The reality is that even then there was a lot
of difference. There's more difference now, but there was a
lot of difference between Democrats and Republicans, and that's not
to say that all the good ideas that Ralph Nader
believed in were embraced or embraced well enough by the
Democratic Party and our candidates back then. It's that on balance,
(02:48:55):
they so much better embodied the principles of detecting people
from danger in their cars, of protecting people from degradation
of the environment, and all that so much better, and
that by confusing that with the Green with his Green Party.
(02:49:17):
And there are still some people who run on a
Green Party ticket, and yes they may be wonderful people
who have wonderful ideas. If they can't coalesce between someone
who can around someone who can win the election, they're
actually voting for the other side.
Speaker 7 (02:49:34):
They are. And you know, the coalition is the key thing.
Speaker 14 (02:49:37):
And you know, one of the things we have talked about,
and again we're talking with Jim Roosevelt here and if
you're watching, I'm taking off because the lights are too
damn hot to just like the rent is too damn high.
But you know, the thing is is that the coalition
(02:49:57):
that again, and I keep saying this because you know,
when we get people like Meil Poindexter on the program
and others who are trying to bring moderates and progressives together.
And I keep reminding mel and others don't need the
reminder because they are they're aware of this too. But
to me, what happened in the early part of the
(02:50:19):
Biden administration twenty twenty one, when he and Bernie Sanders
got together, they passed the.
Speaker 7 (02:50:26):
Emergency Relief Act.
Speaker 14 (02:50:29):
And I'm trying to think of the official name, but
you know this, this, to me was a perfect understanding
of how you can have progressives and moderates put something
together that really saved the country coming off of the
awful Trump administration with the pandemic. You know, you get
vaccinations out the door. You end up, you know, with
(02:50:53):
the ability to give people checks, the ability to sort
of you know, put the fundamental you know, mortar.
Speaker 7 (02:51:00):
And bricks together again. And that was the case.
Speaker 14 (02:51:03):
And he was at sixty percent in the approval ratings
in twenty twenty one, and they get away from that,
and you know, to me, that should be a guide
post again, a roadmap along with your grandfather's vision, your
thoughts on that, because to me, it's already been done,
and you know, it shouldn't be that hard to replicate it.
You know, if we get the egos and everything else
(02:51:23):
out of the way, your thoughts.
Speaker 22 (02:51:25):
We know how to do it.
Speaker 34 (02:51:27):
The question is do we have the political will to
do it. These midterms are going to be a very
good test of that, because we, as a big ten party,
have a wide variety of candidates in the midterms, just
as there was a wide variety of candidates in the
Democratic primary for mayor in New York City.
Speaker 26 (02:51:47):
M H.
Speaker 34 (02:51:48):
I believe it's incumbent upon Democrats to coalesce around the
winner of that primary. This time will be two around
other primaries as we go through the as we go
through the year. Uh, nobody is going to be one
hundred percent where I am. Nobody is going to be
(02:52:09):
one hundred percent as good a legislator as you would be, Jeff.
Speaker 15 (02:52:13):
Uh.
Speaker 34 (02:52:14):
But we need to get behind somebody who is better
than the alternative. And Joe Biden got it. Joe Biden said,
don't come. Don't compare me to the almighty almighty, compare
me to the alternatives.
Speaker 7 (02:52:27):
Yeah, what's a massive gap between the other alternatives?
Speaker 5 (02:52:32):
Yes, right.
Speaker 7 (02:52:34):
Now, you're so try so right. Jim Roosevelt is our guest.
Speaker 14 (02:52:37):
Here a phone number to join us eight three three
five four five five three three three, and Kevin, you
can tell me who we have on the line in
my ear. All right, we'll go to John in Minnesota
in a minute.
Speaker 7 (02:52:53):
Here, talk to me, Jim.
Speaker 15 (02:52:54):
If you.
Speaker 14 (02:52:58):
Look at the next three to six months, if we
you know, get the information you know out regarding the
Epstein files, you know, and that would mean seating Grahala
in Arizona, which is another travesty of justice that somebody
gets elected and they get held up because of this
(02:53:20):
incredibly you know, vicious way of denying somebody a seat
again just doesn't doesn't really compute in a democracy. But
I think that you know, what we're seeing right now,
in October of twenty twenty five, the whole situation could
(02:53:41):
change dramatically and hopefully in favor of the Democrats by
the spring of twenty twenty six, and then you're going
into you know, the election in twenty twenty six on
a on a different path than even now. I mean,
seven million people, you know, and and and we were
part of it, you know, on this on this no case,
I think that's only going to get bigger.
Speaker 7 (02:54:03):
I really have.
Speaker 14 (02:54:04):
I have an optimistic view, you know, despite all these
things that are happening to our country and to our
citizens right now. And I think you know, because eventually,
you know, the truth will come out. It always does,
and so I think that would bode well for the
Democrats if indeed the truth comes out.
Speaker 34 (02:54:24):
I'm sure it will. People have been saying to me
earlier this year, where's the reaction to the terrible things
Trump is doing?
Speaker 12 (02:54:35):
There?
Speaker 34 (02:54:36):
After his first election there were all the Indivisible meetings
and so on. We're not hearing anything now, They said, well,
invisible is still around and.
Speaker 7 (02:54:45):
Still important, but still important.
Speaker 34 (02:54:48):
They became groups of activists. The No King's Day was
saying to the general populace, come show where you are
on Trump, and indeed they did it, as you say,
more than seven million people. I think that will grow.
There's lots going on later in November. Just in about
(02:55:14):
a week or so, there's going to be a big
fundraiser for Democratic candidates in general, hosted by the DNC
and chaired by our wonderful Governor Morahalley and Governor Gretchen Whitmer. Now,
Mara Heeley is openly gay, Gretchen Whitmer is not openly gay.
(02:55:35):
I think that's a great demonstration of how the Democratic
Party comes together to support the principles that are important
in making sure that people can live their own lives
with dignity and security.
Speaker 7 (02:55:51):
You know, so true.
Speaker 14 (02:55:52):
You know, we spoke to I think a future rising
star in the Democratic Party in California, Senator Sabrina Cervantes
from the Riverside area and Inland Empire. She is uh
Latina and openly gay as well and would caucus the
LGBT community in the Assembly.
Speaker 7 (02:56:12):
One of the things that you know you have done.
Speaker 14 (02:56:15):
You understand, and I think Democrats as a whole is
that we stand stronger when we're more diverse and we're
doing this together. And you know, it's a lot of people,
you know who are to the I don't know, the
center of me, maybe to the center of you. Uh say, oh, well,
(02:56:37):
you know, we got we got to have these working
class white guys with flannel shirts and baseball caps out there,
because that's what we've got to show, you know, where
we're for the working class.
Speaker 7 (02:56:44):
I agree, I want to talk to the guys in
the baseball cap.
Speaker 14 (02:56:47):
We can talk Red Sox and Brewers and everything else,
but the point is is that you got to also
talk to people who have helped you get from point
A to point B.
Speaker 7 (02:56:55):
And maybe they're not sports fans.
Speaker 14 (02:56:57):
Maybe maybe they're you know, folks that you know, spend
time doing other activities. But you've got to embrace them
because we're facing the destruction of our democracy and if
you don't embrace them, you're gonna end up in a
worse situation.
Speaker 7 (02:57:11):
We're all going to end up in the hole together.
I'll even talk to Yankees fans. Boy, you're really uh,
you're really asking for it, aren't you work hard?
Speaker 22 (02:57:27):
Yes?
Speaker 15 (02:57:27):
Right?
Speaker 20 (02:57:31):
Right?
Speaker 7 (02:57:31):
Well, so well, yes, go ahead, Jeff.
Speaker 14 (02:57:36):
I'm sorry, no, no, no, I was just gonna say,
because the Dodgers are in the on the verge of
maybe losing to Canada, and of course Canada despises uh
Donald Trump, which you know, I know you're you're you're
rooting for the Dodgers who grew up there in Los Angeles. Uh,
but in a lot of ways, I'm thinking, you know,
Toronto actually is given the middle finger to Trump, and
I love it.
Speaker 34 (02:57:57):
Uh, And uh, you know, certain get on board with
who with the people who are standing up to the bully.
Speaker 14 (02:58:03):
Yes, yes, exactly, exactly, Uh, and that is uh, that's right.
Now our friends in candidate's into the norse. I mean,
can you imagine you see a commercial gym and and
you're president of the United States, and all of a sudden,
you see the commercial you don't like, you know, they're
they're they're, you know, saying one thing about a predecessor
as a president, and all of a sudden, I'm gonna go,
(02:58:25):
I'm gonna go put a tariff on you.
Speaker 7 (02:58:26):
We're gonna raise the tariffs. I mean, this is this
is stuff that only happens in in Saturday Night Live skits.
This is happening in reality.
Speaker 34 (02:58:36):
It's I'd say it's delusional power, but in fact he
has that power at the moment. And that's what we're
have to.
Speaker 7 (02:58:44):
We have to stand up to UH the UH and
we have to not thirty checks, not give up.
Speaker 34 (02:58:52):
Basically, UH, keep keeping there, keep pushing UH speak for
what's right, and ultimately I believe people will vote for
what's right.
Speaker 14 (02:59:02):
I agree, and they'll vote Democrat. And on November fourth
in California, vote yes on fifty and across the line
vote Democrat. New York City, New Jersey, Virginia, Pennsylvania Supreme
Court Jim Roosevelt, thank you, my friend. We'll talk to
you next week. Should have maybe a few victories if
everything goes well. Fingers, Thank you man, thanks much exactly.
Speaker 7 (02:59:26):
Thank you, Jim.
Speaker 14 (02:59:27):
I want to thank all of our guests. Thank Kevin
and Freddy for producing this broadcast. Our a team on
social media, folks, keep on fighting peacefully. My name is
Jeff Santos, and right now it is my time to
say I gotta go.
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