Division Debate: NFC East

This is the last week without football! JB hypes up his Giants, while Bryan tears the Cowboys apart!

Episode Transcript

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Today on jet Set, Dynasty Divisiondebates continue with the NFC East training camp
is officially here, and there's likeone bit of news. Let's go,
let's go, let's go. Wait, wait, let's go. Hello everyone,

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welcome back to jet said Dynasty FootballBrian Stock and I'm JB. And
we got training camp. Training campis in full effect. All teams have
reported to the training camp and weare getting clips galore. Love the clips.
Big clips, guys, big clips. Guys could just like, I'm
not into like, let's overreact aboutclips. But I would be lying to
you if I was saying I didn'tspend an hour going over thirty two beat

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Writers Twitter for an hour just deathscrolling every clip I could possibly see.
Yes, if you're new to this, go follow at thirty two beat Writers
and then just go at the endof every day or maybe you got some
special toilet time and you just wantto go, that's the best time to
do it. It is the absolutebest time to do it, and go
scroll through a scroll that like TikTok, like, oh yeah, it's it's

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basically the same thing. So yeah, I mean it's funny to see some
guys go, you know, that'sfunny. But I was only going,
like, man, I hate whenpeople like hype up their guys off these
like crappy like things after you know, these runninggast Air, look at this
hype for Jamir Gibbs. And thenI got caught into it immediately seconds after
going Tyler Scott that people people aretalking. I like him. Tyler Scott's

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cool. It's like one clip ofMichael Wilson where he didn't even run.
He was running straight on air.That wasn't even Michael Wilson the Arizona car.
I'm like, oh yeah, andI was just like he looks fast.
I'm like I'm excited, and I'mlike that man did nothing. He
just catch with somebody straight. I'mlike, let's go. Yeah, couldn't
be us. Couldn't be us.But we're not gonna waste a ton of

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time on any of this just becauseI like we said, there's just a
lot of nothing. This is typicallylike our last week without a football because
the Hall of Fame game is nextweek, question Mark, it's like next
Thursday. I think a week fromtoday, Yes, Today's Thursday. That
that seems so early. I feellike the Hall of Fame it's always the
first week of August. I'm prettysure the Hall of Fame game is always

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kind of a joke, though,oh it's so bad. I mean,
I feel like you'll watch it becauseI want football and I'm feeding for it
like a absolute addict. I alsothink that it has become less of a
joke now because there's only three precesongames, so it's like, okay,
it's not like five, it's isthe fourth one. You're not wrong,
You're not wrong. People still theydon't play anybody in it, but at

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least it's a little more meaningful thanwhat it used. Yeah, August third,
that's something that's awesome, Like it'smy blood. The week from today,
we have kind of football, kindof football and you heard it here
first kind of football. Where doespreseason rank to like if on a scale
from one to ten, If likea zero is like the XFL, CFL
any of that stuff, and tenis an actual football like NFL football game.

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Where does a preseason game fall inthat spectrum? Wait? What was
CFL XFL like like zero? That'szero? See, I would almost see
I'd rather watch, like I'd ratherwatch like an XFL game than like a
week one preseason game. I disagreereally. I mean, I think that
they're at least obviously they're not asgood because they're not NFL rosters. Both
of them might end up tuning outby the second half. Anyway. Well

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that's true too, But I thinkthat's the thing is at least in an
like XFL game, you get afull game of like their best players,
where it's like you're getting you know, people that you'll never hear of ever
again. Maybe they'll be in theXFL, who knows. Maybe. I
guess the news Herbert got paid.Herbert did get paid. I think if

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I remember correctly, it's five fortwo hundred and sixty three million dollars.
It's like that three or fifty twodollars million dollars a year something crazy like
that. He is absurd. Heis absurd. I still think it's a
little bit crazy, with not awhole lot of playoffs success to pay him

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that much. Yeah, but Idon't think the lack of playoffs success is
his fault. I might be likelooking for holes here, but yeah,
I think it's well because there waskind of like a staring context between him
and Joe Burrow, because Burrow isthe last one to like to sign his
big deal. Yes, and Ijust think that out of respect, Herbert

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should have signed his first every singletime. So I'm glad he did.
But I mean, I think it'sone of those things where you know that
he is your quarterback of the future. This isn't like a oh well,
he's adding up and down like likeeven though Daniel Jones. It's like,
it's not like he's Daniel Jones,like we see it. We know he
has it. Maybe he's got alittle bit of her cousins no more.
He struggles with clutchness and in theprime time and all that stuff. But

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it's not enough where you're scared ofhim. No, not at all.
So I wouldn't. I wouldn't bescared of him. I love Jilin Herbert
as a quarterback. He Yeah,I just think it's a little wild.
He doesn't have like the resume tohave that kind of contract. But again,
I don't put that on him.That man has gotten that team to
the playoffs just by sure will ofhim, because I don't think bray to
Staley is a good coach. Yeah, I think he's a little overrated.

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I would agree with that. Ithink that that defense I think the big
thing is like the Chargers are alwayslike the on paper, like, oh,
these guys actually are kind of good. They always get hurt, right.
The defense especially is like you know, between Bosa, Underwin James and
Cleland, Mac was actually the onlyone who stayed healthy, which is anomally
So yeah, I don't think it'sso much justin Herbert's fault. I mean

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you've seen all the stats. He'salways consistently you know, top five in
passing, touchdowns, all that stuff. So yeah, he deserves it from
us statistical standpoint, I think.Yeah, the next two weeks we have
the AFC and NFC West, sowe'll be talking about them very shortly.
Actually, we'll be talking about itnext week. Yes, I don't see
this team not making the playoffs,but a catastrophic in zero going in the

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next zerio chance they missed the playoffs. Yeah, And like AFC is tough,
but they're a tough they're well acontendings. I don't think it's nearly
as tough as it was last year. I'm saying just the AFC as all,
but they have to get in thewild card. They'll probably get the
best wild card spot. Yeah,probably so yeah, congratulations to justin,

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proud of you. You can takeme at the dinner by us a nice
even McDonald's just like, yeah,we'll try. We'll go through the drive
through together. We'll just shoot theship. An idea that would be,
yeah, is we just flip ourentire content just to get with athletes and
take them on drive through. It'slike it's like it's like, uh,

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what they called carpool karaoke. Iwould kill for the to be on because
it's my man. I love McDonald'smore than anything in his world. That
would be awesome. I would.I would, that would I would change
everything we did if we had OtoSinco and McDonald's drive through. All right,
enough chit chat, let's get downto business. So it's the n
FC East, one of the weirderones, weirder divisions. Like I was

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gonna call it a competitive division.I don't know if weird would be the
right. I mean, it isobviously competitive. So obviously of the Eagles,
you have the Cowboys, you're theGiants and the Commanders at the bottom.
But I guess okay, so let'sembrace debate. Is this the most
competitive division in the NFL? Right? Now not in the NFL and the
NFC easily. You think the AFCNorth is more competitive. I would go

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AFC North. I might even argueAFC West, depending on how the Broncos
go. I think as it's stays. Actually, you know the AFC East
with the Bills, the Dolphins,and the Jets. That's true too.
There are some good divisions. Yeah, so it's I think it's the most
competitive division in the NFC. Inthe NFC, for sure, I agree
with that. Like this team,this conference brought three playoff teams, and
I have a weird I have apretty hard suspicion that they're gonna bring three

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again this year. I don't know. I don't know, Jim. It's
gonna be tough, but I justI don't know. Wolf. So let's
start with the Eagles, obviously defendingNFC champions, finished the season fourteen and
three. You pretty much of bringingeverybody back, Yes, it's a pretty

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They did a pretty good job ofreturning everybody other than Miles Sanders. So
I guess let's start there with therunning back position. They brought in what's
his face? Penny? Thank you? How do you feel about this running
back room? This is a runfirst team. It is, so how
I think it's gonna happen is Ithink Rashad Penny is going to be the

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Week one starter over DeAndre Swift.Really, I think he's gonna lose that
really quickly. I think you're verywrong on that. I think just because
they brought in Penny first, Oh, I don't care. I don't know.
That makes the assumption that makes methink that they're going to at least
give him his opportunity, which Ican only imagine that being in Week one.
But to be fair, it's notlike they waited to sign the Swift.

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It happened in the draft to getSwift. Let's go right, So
to me, I think that Ilook at it in the opposite way and
say, oh, well, theyclearly weren't happy with the Rashod Penny signing
if they went off the trade forJohndry Swift. Fair, you can't be
to sign a Roshot Penny to oneyear deals and expecting the world. Yeah,
honestly, he's the most fragile runningback in the world. Yeah,

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I mean he really Well that's sayingsomething, But yeah, you're right.
I I think I'm conda all inon DeAndre Swift. Oh, especially as
ADP. It's insane. Yeah,I was just gonna say I was about
to pull up where it's ADP waslike from me doing some mocks recently.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's Ithink ESPN hasn't it. Like, I

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think he almost is almost in theseven like in the seventh round. I
think it's six round. I thinkSleep has him at like sixty overall,
so right in the front of thesix. So like it's like sixth round
for DeAndre Swift, And I thinkthat's absurd. He's currently on Fantasy pros,
He's currently sitting at running back twentyfive. Yeah, there's no heat
doesn't return that value. Oh yeah, I mean he's behind Alexander Madison.

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I'd rather have Swift. He's behindmy show White. It's close. That
is close. James Connor probably gonnahave Swift for the passing upside, Damian
Pierce cam Akers would rather have Siftfor both of those guys, yes,
and then Miles Sanders JK. Dobbs, like I would almost have him.
Like Miles Sanders is probably the onlyone in that tier right now that I
would not want ahead of him.Ironically, i'd probably want him ahead at

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j K. Dobbins. Yeah,but we're both pretty anti JK. Dobbins
this year. Yeah, but Imean I've running by twenty five. You
know, if you're not even theseventh round, he's gonna return on that
value. There's gonna be guys aheadedand that definitely fall. So I'm all
in on Swift. I like tochange the pace that Kenny game will brings.
They set even really like him inthis him but not somebody him looking

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a draft like he said, Pennyis Penny is just so weird to me.
He was really good whenever he washealthy, but he's just never healthy.
I can't trust this guy to stayhealthy. I shudder to think that
he I shudder to think that hewas a first round pick. Bro,

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I still don't believe that. Ican't. I still like as soon as
that I think I pretty much.I remember calling you laughing about that.
Oh yeah, I just made itwas and I was like, I couldn't
be thirty second pick. It wasvery far back in the draft, but
like I was still like, whatare you doing here? Like it was
a shock. San Diego State andis that where he went? Yeah?
San Diego State and I'm pretty surewasn't he in the he was in a

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what class? Was he in thebecause he got taken over? Somewhat absurd?
That was the Clyde of Words allair class, wasn't it. I'm
looking this up. Keep talking whileI look this up. Okay, yeah,
but this this is such an interestingbackfield just because this is a run
first team. I mean, wesaw how well Miles Sanders did last year

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in this same system. He finishedwhat top ten running back? I mean
he finished running back ten in standards, running back fifteen, and PPR he
had over a thousand yards. He'sjust he twelve yards and eleven touchdowns.
Like, what more do you wantfrom this position? You could argue that
DeAndre Swift maybe is better than MilesSanders if he stays healthy. But I

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think this is a slam dunk foruh, for DeAndre Swift. Yeah,
we're gonna in any league that we'rein, We're gonna be fighting each other
for like Rashaw Penny and see whowill reach him for earlier. Yeah you
mean, yeah, DeAndre Swift.I'm still looking up this. Yeah,
draft class, it's crazy. Imean, yeah, this is gonna be

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a fun, fun, fun deefor fun offense to watch again. Yeah,
this was the Nick Chuck class.That's what I thought. Was it
really came over Nick Chubb. Itwas the Nick Chub class. It was
the Nick Chubb class. I thoughtthat was right, But I wasn't feel
like has been in the league somuch longer than Penny, but he's not.
I mean, well, no,he hasn't longer than Penny. Yeah,
that was the sake. Yeah,that's the sa Quan Sony Darius Geiss.

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Oh Sony was the other one.Yeah, Oh my gosh, Like
I remember, I know Nick Chubbhad the injury stuff, but I couldn't
imagine after in any universe besides thisone that we live in, where someone
was taking Rashad Penny over Nick Chubb. How old is Rashod Penny? Twenty
seven? That's it. Yeah,I feel like Nick Chubb has been in
the league for like fifteen years.Yeah, and he's only twenty seven,

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will be twenty eight this season.Yeah, so let's talk about it's a
little about a little bit about thewide receivers. Obviously, you got a
J. Brown who's gonna go asa top ten receiver. I think I
think anything changes there. That's thething about the what like this year especially,
I'm learning about I'm having a hardtime getting ten wide receivers that I

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feel like bear like comfortable without ashadow. Now with being my like wide
receiver one on my team, Ican pick about fifteen running backs before.
Like my cut off for me islike Aaron Jones. I have Aaron Jones
and my running back one. I'mpumped. Yes, this this year is
definitely my staker at running back.Tom his wide receiver. Yeah, so

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it definitely take a J. I'dbe taking a J. Brown as soon
as that round turns from like,as soon as two O one hits,
I'm thinking a J. Brown.Yeah. I mean, he had a
phenomenal season last year, even ona team that didn't necessarily pass a ton,
but he still managed to have aninsane season, cut tons of touchdowns,

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wide receiver, four, wide receiversix PPR. Excuse me, Oh
my god, it's crazy. Lookat that he had fifteen hundred yards,
fourteen ninety six and eleven touchdowns.It's crazy to think that there was five
wide wide receivers and PPR that werebetter than him. And that just comes
to the fact that he's not reallya reception guy. Eighty eight catches on
the year is good. Yeah,he's him. It's basically in that tier

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that's like the turning I'm the turningtier. I should say it's him,
amandros st Brown, who was likethe total opposite, who is just yeah,
he's getting the PPR monsoon and that'swhy he's going that high. And
then CD, who's like a happymedium of them both. Yes, I
agree. I will say I'm lookingat this, looking at Sleeper right now.
He had eighty eight receptions on onehundred and forty five targets. It's

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not the greatest percent, very notgood for I mean for comparison, he
had sixty on one oh five lastyear, but yes, and then seventy
on one oh sixty year before,closer to seventy percent. Yeah, So
like, I mean, that's thatis not great. And maybe it's just
because that one forty five was likea huge number, but I mean eleven

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touchdowns. Do you look at thatand think he has to return closer to
that mid sixty percent catch well,So that that's a great question because I
would look at this and say,oh my god, he had fifteen hundred
yards. There's no way he's gonnado that again. But if he,
you know, if he was fiftypercent and sixty percent on his target chair,
maybe maybe. So who would youwant out of that tier? Between

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Lamb, A J. Brown,A Monroe ST Brown? Who would you
pick out of those three? First? You know, I love me some
CD Lamb, but in a PPRleague, there's just something so safe about
him Monro Sat Brown, there isjust I'm surprised. I'm actually kind of
surprised you're saying this. I wasnot ready for you to say a Monroe.
If I'm sitting in a draft andI see a J. Brown in

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a Monroe, I'm probably taking aJ. Brown. But there's gonna be
a little part of me that's like, look at all those catches. He's
gonna catch so many, There's gonnabe so many catches, there's nobody else
to throw to, like a J. Browns, Davanta Smith's your name is
Brandon Cooks, Like, there's justso many catches. Yes, but yeah,
realistically a J. Brown is stillon the top of this list.

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CD is great. I love,love love CD, but we're just not
there yet. And we'll talk aboutCD in a second. But I mean
literally he finished wide receiver five,which is actually crazy. So he finished
actually one spot better than Lamb,which where than Ada Brown, which I'm
very surprised actually. So let's goto the other my favorite, one of
my favorite receivers in the league,Davante Smith. How early are you willing

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to take Davonte Smith and Redraft becausehe is part of that true like group
that's like elite number two with liket Higgins and someone he's actually going closer
to, like the ADP of likea Lava. Is that like low DK,
like that lower wide receiver one tohigh end wide receiver two. Yeah,
And it's a great question because it'sI was very much on the bandwagon

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of like I didn't totally love DeVontaSmith coming in last year. I was
like, I don't know if JalenHurts can support That was my one I
knocked out of the park, wasme saying that Jalen Hurts can support two
a thousand yard receivers. Yeah,and he did. That was the one
I was I will take pride.I say a lot of shit on this
podcast. That was one I like, well take pride and that I got
right. It's crazy. He finishedwide receiver nine last year in PPR leagues,

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Like, that's incredibly impressive. Seventouchdowns was good, twelve hundred yards
good, ninety five receptions, Likehe did more receptions than A J.
Brown. Yeah, so he hadmore. I think that. But I
think that just goes to show thehow different A. J. Brown and

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DeVonta Smith play the position. Likewe've talked about how great of a route
runner Davonta Smith is, and itjust leaned. It lends himself to being
the short, timid yardage guy.Sure he's still only one hundred and seventy
pounds, but he can't touch him. Yeah, you can't. It doesn't
matter how small he is if youcan't touch him. So I am,

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let me see where he's actually sitting, right, I got it here.
It's twenty eighth overall. Also fromhalf of the third round. Do you
feel good about DeVonta Smith is yournumber two? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
absolutely do absolutely do. So you'regoing like wide, like if you're
going wide receiver, running back,wide receiver, you feel good about Demante
Smith? Yea third rounds I agree, because well, especially when you look
at the guys that are in thattier around him. So I like all

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these receivers in this tier Higgins,Crystal, Lave, DK, Metcalf,
Jalen Waddles at the top of thistier tier like, well, you have
to get another round above he's goingcloser to the second round. Yeah,
I'm just looking at overall this isI'm looking wide receiver rankings. Waddles eleven,
A, Laves twelve, Devanta isthirteen right now. I yeah,

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I love this round. This isa great round because honestly, I think
DK is even too low in thisI'd rather have DK probably than some of
these guys. I don't know,I don't know. Oh, there's so
many good wide receivers here. Didn'twe just say that we liked wider.
Well, I guess like these areguys I love as my wide receiver too,
exactly. And you're able to getthese guys at your wide receiver too,
just And there's so many running backsyou can get in the round two.

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It's from Henry to Chubb to toPolar to you can even take somebody
like a little bit early, likea nase yourn Etend or Aaron Jones early
for two. Yeah, I meanI would love if I get the Vonda
Smith's my wideceiver. Two. I'ma happy, happy camper. And then
obviously, do you think another anotherseason, another two thousand yard receivers?

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Are we doubling down? I thinkso I'm doubling down. What's changed?
Right? Like that's that's kind ofmy thing is like they pretty much ran
it back other than you know,damn things changed. You swapped out Swift
for Sanders or Sanders for Swift.You still have Dala's Goddard, who is
still going to be a you know, a tight end that you should draft
and is a tighten you're gonna startevery week. It's gonna be a top

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five to seven tight end. Likehe's not gonna blow you out of the
water, but it's gonna be good. I mean, you look at the
guys that they brought in. Iwas I was curious, like, wait,
who do they actually sign? Theyhave is Akus from Atlanta. I
did not know that Quaz is stillthere, Quas Walkins. It's like,
these are not guys. I'm worriedabout taking any kind of target share away
from Davanta on AJ. So lethim run it out, throw it out

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that offensive line of stiff like god, I mean, my Latta last Kelsey.
I did not think Kelsey was gonnacome back Lane Johnston. And then
what rookie Tyler Tyler Steen is sayabama guard? Yep. Yeah, it's
a pretty good offensive line. Yeah, and they still couldn't even if they
don't want to go to the rookieroute. They have Cam Jurgens, who's
supposed to be the air apparent Kelsey. They could play him a guard.

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I think they even played him aguard a couple of games last year.
It's a team that so I'm notbig on future betting, like waiting the
whole season for things out there.Yeah, like for my favorite teams like
that they're wind Toto or something likethat that gives me something like look forward
to. I would take the Eaglestoo for the Super Bowl odds right now?

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What do you know what they areat? I do not. I
know they're not first, no,but they can't be. They're probably second.
If I'm second or third, that'sthe one I'm going for. They
now have the season under their beltsof being a full complete team. They
not only they didn't. They lostsome people, but they replaced them immediately.
They lost Javon Hardgrave got Jim whichis gonna just slide right in.

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You still get Nolan Smith. Youbasically still have this whole team that's just
basically the couple the twenty nineteen Bulldogs. All right, excuse twenty one Bulldogs.
So the Eagles are plus seven hundred, which really is actually pretty bad
value for a future, but theyare the second favorite. This is just
roster alone, how they played lastyear. Maybe because I subscribed, I
didn't think they were gonna win theSuper Bowl because they were such a young

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team. Now that they have thatfull year of experience, I don't see
a reason why they couldn't win theSuper Bowl. Jets plus sixteen hundred.
I'm looking four questions about the Jetswinning the Super Bowl. I know,
but it's like plus seven hundred,just like something that's not That's not the
value you want for a Super Bowlfuture, but it's probably pretty safe money,

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all right, anything else we wantto talk about. I feel like
we glazed over Dallas Goddard. ButI feel like there's not a ton to
talk about with Dallas. Goddard saidit best. He's a top five to
seven tight end. He should goaccordingly, Let's jump to the Cowboys in
oh let's do a prediction. Sothey were fourteen and three last year.
Yeah, that's a lot. Youjust told me we're gonna bet a super

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Bowl future on, I am.It's still a lot of wins, and
and you are now going to beplaying a tougher schedule because you were the
team in the Super Bowl. SoI'll give them thirteen and four. I'll
take away one win, but theystill win the division. Handedly I'm gonna
run it back. Give me fourteenthree, fourteen three. Yeah, I
think these guys are just they're gonnado it all over again. All right,

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let's talk about damn Boys. DamnBoys. Can I say something?
Go ahead? I kind of preach, kind of hate the Cowboys. I
kind of don't think they're gonna breakten wins this year. I think they
can and I think they will.But so why let's start with you.
Why do you think the Cowboys aren'tgoing to succeed this year? You lose

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Zeke, I still don't I thinkthat's such a big deal. I just
I'm not totally convinced. I thinkTony Pollock can carry a full load.
And the guy, the guys thatare there with him, Malik Davis duce
Vaughn, Rico Dowell, Ronald Jones, Like, these are not guys that
are gonna be like, oh,like let's take some heavy carries off of
Pollock. I don't totally trust Pollodin that full time role. I think

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Dak has really just kind of shownhis colors as not being that good of
a quarterback. Like he's a goodquarterback, he's just not a transits Yeah,
Like, which is good. It'sgonna get you the middle part of
the Netflix documentary. But right,but I mean he's QB eighteen last year.
Now, I guess he got hurtlast year. I think, right,
yeah, he only played twelve games, but fifteen interceptions, twenty three

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touchdowns. Like, I just there'sjust so much I think to be desired
from him, Like it feels likehe like I'm literally looking at his stats
and they just kind of keep goingdown. Like he had a he had
his thirty seven and ten year,you know, two years ago, finish
his QB eight But he's just doesn'tdo it for me. There's no running

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upside with him. He rushed forone hundred and eighty two yards last year.
I feel like ever since had angleinjury, he's like, Okay,
that's in him not running ever again, which I don't blame him, but
I think that he needed to havelike a bunch of really good weapons to
keep him afloat. And CD lambis a great weapon. But Brandon Cooks
is over the hill. Michael Galubnever came back from his injury. There's

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some t Tilbert fell in his face. There's some hype around Jalen Tilburt in
the second year, but not enoughto make me feel good about it.
That's the thing this is. Ithink that's where I if I were to
put where my hesitation lies with theCowboys, that's probably it is. They
don't have the like the weapons thatare going to I think support death the

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way he needs to be. There'snot no more Amari and CD and like
not even there wasn't There's not evena seat like a CD pre injury gallop
and eat or even adult in theSchultz there anymore. Right, was a
huge part of that offense point downwith that injury. Yep, you lose
Shultz. And let's not forget likethis offensive line is not good anymore.

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He's getting better. You have ZachMartin who's not even at camp who that's
right, Yeah, he wants money. Tyrone Smith, who's good, he
was good, but old, oldbut old. And then you have Tyler
Smith who actually pretty solid, actuallypretty solid young player. Kars Steele Tern
Steele, it's just been the guythey've had to plug in for any injury
they've had for like the last twoor three years. Yeah, and then

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I've never even heard of their center, Tyler Bedihot. I'll take your word
for it. He's all right,Like I would probably go lower than all
right, But we were talking likeit was just two or three years ago.
How we talked how this was thebest old line in the NFL,
and wow, how convenient that wasthe best years of Dak Prescott's career.
But it's now no longer an eliteline. You only have one real weapon

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that I trust to try out thereevery time you're I would argue you're taking
a step back at their running backposition, just in terms of like red
zone carries. Like that's what youcan say what you want about Zeke yess,
Zeke was not in his like primelike he was when he was younger,
but like you would rather have Zekeon a third and run one or
a fourth and one on the goalline than Tony Pollard, right, I

(27:18):
still think I'm still subscribing it.I think Zeke's coming back for the season.
I mean that would maybe even ifthey signed any of those guys that
are still out there hunting, likethat would make me feel a little bit
better about it. But it wouldjust be very weird to me if they
like didn't pay z and it didn'tbring Zeke back, but they brought like
Leonard Fournette back. I'm just like, or like Kareem Hunt back or that
could be a little petty though,but like I don't think they're trying to

(27:41):
be petty. Maybe not, Idon't know what's his face. They're not
trying to be petty, but likemaybe he doesn't want to go back.
I don't know. So Paul justkinda goes running back five. That just
seems like he's going right behind Bijon. So he's going ahead of Jonathan Taylor,
ahead of Nick Chubb, ahead ofJosh Jacobs and Derek Ken. I
was gonna say, I have notbeen in any drafts where that's happened.

(28:04):
Really, No, he's a veryhandedly running back, like in the second
round. Okay, he's with likethe Chub and the Josh Jacobs. I've
just never seen them get taken before, especially those first couple of names.
You said, Okay, well thatmakes you feel a little bit better about
it. But and it's I likeTony Pollard. I like him a lot,
and he finishes running back eight lastyear. But Memphis Boys, you

(28:26):
know, I love my Memphis,love our Memphis Boys, he said Frantonio
Gibson. But yeah, I stillhave some faith a little bit. I
just think that I just think thatthere's something missing here. And to be
honest, I think that the datjust doesn't have it. I think that
whatever they do with Mike McCarthy isn'tworking. It's just I think this team
maybe takes the biggest step back inthe whole NFL this year. I don't

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want to say they're going to takea huge step back. So I still
really like the defense. Tryvon Diggsand Stefan Gilmour as you're back in corners,
I think is a huge combination.Still have Michael Parsons into Marcus Lawrence
and added into d Tackle and MazzySmith. I think that's going to be
really good for them. And thinkThat's what's going to help them win a
lot of these games this year istheir defense and just Dak can't throw the

(29:11):
game away. That's really what needsto happen. Dak had the most interceptions
last year. He said he's gonnanot throw double digit picks. You can't
say that. I'll take the overnightyou said it, Yeah, I'll take
jist yourself. But I don't know. It's just like Dak isn't bad,
but he's not that great. Thewide receivers are good, but not super

(29:33):
great. Aside from Ceede Lamb,who we really like a lot. The
line is good but not great.It's just a team that it was in
the AFC, it would probably bedead in the water for being one hundred
percent honest. But since they're inthe NFC, they have a fighting chance.
I just think that how it's setup and how it's looking, you're
gonna like what I'm about to saythat. I think the Giants are going

(29:56):
to take a step forward. Ithink that I like their defense better.
No, I'm the Giants fan.I don't like that defense better. It's
getting there, but it's it's improvingit. But I just like the Cowboys
defense we were talk about. Iwas like, oh, this defense could
be good. It's like, okay. They finished one, two, three,
four, five, six seven eightand passing yards allowed rushing daily were

(30:18):
let's find out numbers. Numbers.They were bottom of the league. They
were bottom ten of the league.And rushing yards allowed. Yeah, that's
probably why they got a three hundredthirty pound nose tackle. Let's see the
first round, see if it makesdifference. There's just something there that I
just I feel dirty about it.I don't love it. I don't want
any part of it except for mymy boy, Cede Lamb. Cede Lamb

(30:38):
will get his touches, he'll gethis yards, he'll get everything I love.
I love a wide receiver, onethat plays in the slot primarily that
makes me giddy. Brown or not? A brown teasing me a one on
say brown be yes like, there'ssomething about that that makes me warm and
fuzzy and he's great. Are yougonna take a stab at Brandon Cooks this
year? Where do you think he'sgoing. Let's take a look. You

(30:59):
don't take a guy said? Hiswide receiver rank right now? Forty that's
two low thirty six. There's fortydarnings, that's what you get. Don't
second guess kids, Right, that'sright, go through that. He's right
behind Jackson, Smith and Jigba,behind George Pickens, behind Addison, behind
Burkes, behind Dotson, behind MikeEvans. Yeah, I mean, I
guess that's all right ahead of Sutton, Tony, Gabe Davis, Juju.

(31:22):
So like, Yeah, basically Suttonare almost the exact same thing in my
head. Yeah, I agree,that's pretty much what it is. I
yeah, I'm fine taking him asyou know, a flex guy. But
one thing I can I've been kindof teetering on the Cowboys because I don't
think they're a bad team. Idon't think they're a great team. They're
sure as hell not winning twelve gamesagain next year, literally not a chance.

(31:47):
I would love to know what thebetting odds is for that team.
It can't be close to twelve again, what the Yeah, I don't know
what the team soldos. I can'tbuild it up that quickly. But yeah,
I don't think that they're gonna getanywhere near that. Yeah, we
they don't really even have a tightend. To talk about Jake Ferguson,
let's talk about him, how Wisconsinboy. He's my special boy. Lame,

(32:08):
he's lame. I think he's good. Schoonmaker isn't even healthy yet?
So oh was he still hurt?Yes, Yeah, I'm I like Ferguson.
I don't I'm not drafting Ferguson.I like, I think he was
underrated. I think he he'll bea fine tight end. But yeah,
I mean you've You've literally got CeedeeLamb dot dot dot dot dot dot Brandan

(32:30):
Cooks dot dot dot dot dot dotdot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot
dot Michael Gallop, like huge,huge gaps between these guys. I don't
think Brandon Cooks is gonna take anypressure off of Ceedee Lamb, like Tony
Pollard is gonna get his I guesslike probably he'll he'll be I still think
Tony poll will be running back oneon his own, just based off of

(32:52):
the fact that there's nobody else inthe world on this roster that's gonna take
touches away from him. He made. He made like ninety percent snap chair
because Maliage Davis stinks. Duspon isbasically Tony Pollard but five foot six and
then everybody else stinks. I thinkthat's the thing that we're just no,
we're not crazy about Tony Pollard beinga workload, like we're carrying a full

(33:15):
workload. But he is going toDan got no choice, there's yeah,
there's no other options. I forgotthey signed stuff on get warm that's a
yeah, it's a really good signingnow that I feel like I've watch fifty
years old though. But he is. But you can't be hyped out Patrick
Peterson and then trash dufon Gilmore.That's that's I won't let that watch me,
watch me, all right, let'sI feel like we did. We

(33:37):
didn't talk about these guys in depth, but like all as a whole,
this is just like I think thisis gonna be these This is the third
place team in this division. Wouldyou say this is the third place team?
Should last place? I'm like,okay, hold on a second third
place? Yeah, no, I'mgonna put him in third place. I'm
still going to give him in apositive record. I'm gonna give him nine
and eight and I think they stillget a chance to the playoffs in nine

(34:00):
and eight. I was gonna givethem nine and eight as well. All
right, I'm looking at the Giantslast year who did nine seven and one.
It's like, oh, let metoss a little tie in there.
I should put me down for nineseven and one. The cowboys are good
for a time, and who elseis gonna get the tie? That's true,
They'll try the commanders. I'll tellthe commanders out there for a time.
That's all right, remind me inthe next thirty minutes. All right,

(34:22):
let's talk about the giants, becauseI know you want to talk about
him. I know you're pumped abouthim, and like I'm I'm very excited
about thet for the Giants. Theone thing that I'm not super excited about
is like, where is your likeX wide receiver like h Hodgins? I
guess, like you got a lotof slot guys. No, Isaiah Hodgens

(34:45):
is probably one of your best slotreceivers from last year, I guess,
But like who else is? Likeliterally who they? Okay, Wan Dale's
under under six foot, Paris Campbell'sunder six foot, Darius Slayton's under six
foot, Zown Shepherds probably pretty freakingclose. Slayton's above six foot. Jalen
Hide's pretty fucking close. He's likefive ten. Yeah, Yeah, Hodgens

(35:06):
is the only. And then theyhave Colin Johnson. I forgot about.
He's a big boy. He's abig boy, but he's not an ex
receiver. He's a tight end.But what what are they doing? Let
start with the wide receivers. Whatthe fuck? So? I think here's
what's happening, at least to mybest knowledge, this is how they are

(35:27):
hoping that this is gonna work forend up working. You're gonna one Jalen
Hide on the outside to use aspeed. Okay, I think you're gonna
turn one day into the other outsidereceiver because he played a lot more.
He actually played a lot more outsidethan I was anticipating he was going to
last year. He did it toa successful degree. So okay, I'm
okay with it. And then withthe rest of this hodgepodge of slot receivers,
you're hoping just one of them hits, I guess. But it's not

(35:52):
a great strategy. But it's what'sin front of us. And ah,
it's tough. It's really tough becausein a perfect world, everybody would be
bumped down one high. It wouldbe the second outside receiver to use a
speed one day would be the slotand then they would have someone I don't
know who's like six four really hasa good track record behind them. Maybe

(36:15):
you pay a lot of money tolike someone like a Kenny got or something
like that. Also Jamison Crowder stillhere and Beasley that happened recently in that
shop. I was like, Iforgot about Colby's. Oh my god,
this is insane, is it?Literally? I listened off all those sub
six foot guys. I left outCrowder and Cole Beasley. I yeah,

(36:36):
but yes, not to cut offyour key Kenny Galladay diet tribe. But
that's so sad. Still, Ithought that was the best signing. I
still don't understand it. I thoughtthat was the best signing the Giants have
done in years. I was like, oh my god, they got an
actual number one receiver, we gotan actual legs here, and it's just
like that never happened. It neverworked, and I'd go down as one
of the not even as a Giantsfan. It might go down as one

(36:59):
of the most baffling free agent signingsI've ever seen. It's like Albert Haynesworth
level. Yeah, just how itjust felt so flat on the face just
makes no sense. Obviously, yougot sa Quon he signed his I guess
that was kind of news that Ididn't. I'm gonna be honest, I
thought that was really dumb, likesay, Quon basically signed the franchise tag

(37:20):
but with incentives. Yeah, andit was a million dollars worth of incentives,
which isn't shouldn't move the needle thatmuch. The Giants won this negotiation,
and that sucks because I'm very teamLet's try to get the running backs
in love, because they do takethe most beatings still, even in their
lowest role, they are the onesthat take the most punishment. Yeah,
probably the size the offensive lineman.Yeah, but even you can make the

(37:40):
argument that, yes, offensive linementake beating and they hit get hit every
play, but at least it's likeyou have a one yard hit start.
Like, yeah, running backs gettinghit somebody full speed every single play.
So that's tough. At least Iheard. I can't remember who said it,
but I was. I think Iwas listening to Rich Eyes and the
other day, and they want theoriginal plan to sign say Quan and then

(38:02):
tag Daniel Jones. At least thatwas the original plan that made sense to
me. Yeah, and then sayQuan didn't take the money, and it
kind of threw a wrench in everything. I was like, oh, I
guess that makes sense. I reallywish we would have the Giants would have
just taken like a nice three yeardeal to say Quan and then tag Daniel
Jones. But that's not the worldwe live in. That's in another bizarre

(38:23):
world, right are you? Solet's talk about Daniel Jones a little bit.
He finished QB nine last year,which is actually a little surprising to
me. It's a it's the legsman's dandy legs. It's vanilla vic baby
yards, fifteen touchdowns, five interceptions, which is good. That's what Dak

(38:43):
Prescott aspires to be. But you'reright, it's the seven hundred eight yards
and seven touchdowns. That's what reallychanged. That was he had not had
more than two rushing touchdowns in aseason, and he had seven last year,
which obviously is a huge whose boostfor for his points. This is
his first year since his rookie seasonthrowing over three thousand yards. He looked

(39:06):
better. I mean, he lookedmore competent, more in control. I
think that is attributed to whatever itis that Brian Dable did there, whatever
he was able to do with JoshAllen. He started to do with Daniel
Jones, and that makes me feelsomewhat good about Daniel Jones. I don't
think I want to draft him asmy QB one, but I can see

(39:29):
the upside here. It's all kindof lines up. He could very well
turn into a Josh Allen light wherehe's you know, he's not gonna be
the number one rusher on his team, obviously, but he could still put
up seven hundred yards and you knowa lot of touchdowns like he did last
year. So here's my thinking aboutDan Jones. I like him more than

(39:52):
most because I feel like it's reallyeasy too, because he gets all tremendous
amount of shit tremendous and probably sometimesrightfully so. But he is a really
good fantasy asset because of his legs. Yes, and I think all the
kind of crap talk, he getsa little bit overdone to the point where

(40:12):
there's a good fair chance he's goingto repeat as a quarterback one. Maybe
a low end one, yeah,but it's hard to take quarterbacks. Getting
a low end quarterback one. I'mokay with. I agree, I very
much agree. I'm not super crazyon punting quarterback this year in fantasy,
I want one of the top guys. But if I did, or if
I just get quarterback dries up reallyquick, I'm looking for Daniel Jones at

(40:34):
his AVP. It's like, what'sround eight nine or something like that.
It's it's very late. I meanhe's currently at he's like he'd be twelve.
Yeah, but like, yeah,I mean ahead of him are two
A Dack and DeShawn. I'm nottouching Deshan. I'm not touching Dak.
And then it's like, okay,I'd probably rather have Daniel Jones over too.
At this point, I'm gonna betotally honest, just because that's a

(40:57):
tough one. I think I stilldo too. It's it's close but rushing
upside and it's weird to say thesetwo things together. Less injury risk compared
it to uh so that would maybepush me over the top. But if
I ever end up taking Daniel Jonesmy first quarterback, I'm just gonna watch
you to call nine one one.Yeah, that's the one you're gonna have

(41:19):
to You're gonna have the double downon quarterback on that one to try to
I agree, even I still likeit dynasty. I love Daniel Jones for
value dynasty. He is not gettinga whole lot and super leagues love it.
Yeah, love, love, loveit because he is going to be
a legitimate starter for you. Andagain in the twelve team dynasty league,
that's I'm for. You're counting twoquarterbacks in a backup. That's thirty six

(41:40):
quarterbacks. There's not that many jobs. I just wish we had. I
wish he had one real outside widereceiver. Maybe that comes next year in
the draft, maybe they take oneof the top wide receivers, but like
I just wish he had a realoutside threat. Maybe Jaylen hid turns into
something, Maybe maybe Darius Layton comesback and has a decent year. But

(42:00):
I just wish that that run onreceiver in the draft. Absolutely, that
had to kill that team. Ohit absolutely did that. Literally JSN literally
JSN, Quentin Johnston, Zay Jones, Josa Flowers and Jordan Adison in that
order, going the front four picksin front of you. That had to
kill. I had to absolutely devastate. So let's talk about these wide receivers.

(42:24):
Who do you think I just lookedit up on sleeper. Who is
the highest ranked New York Giants widereceiver. I'm gonna go high. It's
Isaiah Hodgins fair wide receivers sixty seven, all right, Jan Dale is seventy.
I like, well, I mightlike Jandale at seventy. I would
like Jandale at seven. Slaton wasright behind at seventy two. Hide is

(42:46):
eighty four, Shepherds ninety three.This is based, at least in my
head, this is how it's gonnawork. It's gonna be The starting three
receivers are probably gonna be Hodgins,one Dale and who do we just say,
I'm sorry, Wan Dale, Hyatt? No, not Hyatt, the
other fast receiver out of slate,Yeah, Darres Slayton. That's probably gonna

(43:07):
be it. Eventually Hyah will takeover Slayton's job, and then hopefully Isaiah
Hodgins does well as the big slotreceiver. Yeah, but for fantasy,
I don't want to damn one ofthem. I might take a late round
shot on Wan Dale, but notthat's not happening. The guy that you
want here is Darren Waller, whowe have not talked about yet. Currently

(43:29):
tight end seven going behind Kyle Pitts, behind Goddard. I would probably want
Waller ahead of both those guys.I'm in front of the witch too.
I'm sorry Kyle Pitts and Das Goddard. Yeah, I think so. Doesn't
you get Kittle Hawkinson because he isgoing to be the number one option.
He's going to be the end zonetarget, He's going to be the whole

(43:50):
thing. He's going to be theMark Andrews. This year, he stays
healthy, he will put up Ithink similar numbers. He is going to
have eight or more touchdowns this yeareasily if he stays healthy. If he
plays seventeen games. Hell, Iwould even give him fourteen games. He
plays fourteen games this year, hewill get eight touchdown. I agree,
I wholeheartedly agree with that. SteamHe literally might get a He might reclaim

(44:15):
a thousand yard tight end if thisteam. I think he absolutely could.
If this team does what I thinkcould do, I think he can get
a thousand yards. I again,all comes down to injury. If he's
healthy, I think Darren Waller isgoing to the absolute ceiling. I agree.
Let's talk about this line. Doyou like Andrew Thomas. Yes,

(44:38):
just extended him to a big fiveyear deal. I'm very excited about that.
Evan Neil the other tackle rough firstyear, but again he was a
left tackle that had to move toright tackle. There was a little things
Andrew Thomas had his first year,So I'm not I'm not hesitant or right,
Yeah, I'm not hesitant. Ithink he's gonna have a much better
season. He has to. Yourguards are Ben Bredson and Mark carwins Carp

(45:00):
both garbage really but little garbage,mental garbage man. With about Shane Lemuse,
he related to he is he's alsoa garbage man, absolutely true garbage
man. Then they drafted the center, John Michael Schmidts. Love it.
I think he is going to bean like day one starting center, and
I think now you're going to havethree legitimate offensive lineman for that line.

(45:21):
Yeah, I think it's gonna begreat. And guards are easier to replace
than everybody all the other positions thatwe just mentioned. So I agree the
fact that the two guards are theworst part of that offensive line I'm okay
with for this instance, opposed toa couple of years ago where it's just
like Andrew Thomas his first year,which was bad. Yeah, this is
a four times better offensive line atthis point. If I I still think

(45:44):
John Michael Spens is going to stepin and be probably a top end center
like within this first year. Yeah, I mean the guys, the guys
that own air obviously, say Kwan, Darren Waller. I don't hate taking
a Daniel Jones as my like secondQB. If I want to like kind
of take like the if I wantto take two of the like ten to
fourteen qbs, yes I'll take.I'll be happy to take one of those

(46:07):
guys. But yeah, I'm Iam very high on this team. I
wish there was something they could doa little bit to fix the wide receivers,
but they make it. They managedto make it work without a primary
you know, X receiver last year, so I should say a traditional X
receiver last year. So let's seewhat we can get out of you know,

(46:29):
Hodgens again, see if Blondale canstay healthy. There's just so many
of these guys, literally like Beasley, Cole or well, yeah, we
kind of touched on Sake one alittle bit, but like the team runs
through Steake one, it does runthrough Seake one, It absolutely does.
He accounts for an incredibly hyper sThe number one receiver is the third option

(46:52):
in like the passing tier right,Oh, yeah, without a doubt.
I mean, Barkley is just heis the guy that he's the only way
this team gets win. So ifhe does, if he gets hurt,
gets injured, they're in trouble.They are because it can't just be Daniel
Jones trying to get to Darren Waller. That's way too easy to scheme.
Yeah, I mean last year,I'm always wow, I'm just looking at
his at Sa Kwan's receiving production.He hasn't had over He had three hundred

(47:16):
and thirty eight yards last year receivingno receiving touchdowns. That was his uh,
that was his most receiving yards sincehis rookie year where he had seven
hundred yards since then four thirty eightsixty when he got hurt too. Shows
the like absolute phenomenon that is gettingover like five hundred receiving yards for a
running That's fair, that's probably true. But what what we just talked about

(47:37):
with you know, there's nobody tothrow too, and he still only got
three hundred and thirty eight of thethirty two hundred yards that Daniel Jones had
last year, but ten touchdowns thirteenhundred yards on the ground. You really
can't get much better than that.No, I still think Sa Kwan's going
to be a top back because thisis truly his team. Like even as

(48:00):
the top backs, there's not likefantasy backs, I should say, or
total backs, I guess you can. It basically goes hand in hand.
Yeah, there's not a team thatgoes through the running back like he does.
And the only argument you can makeis what we expect be Jean Robinson
to do with Atlanta. He thatis because CMC. That it doesn't go
through CMC, it doesn't go throughEckler, it doesn't go through Taylor.

(48:23):
Well, I guess closer is whatwe expect that. I guess it could
be closer to Taylor, but yeah, it could be. This is truly
out of the top backs. Thisteam runs through Sique. It's like him
and Derrick Henry. Yeah, it'slike the two that really like need to
establish the run first. Okay,let's do uh predition. So they finished

(48:43):
nine seven one last year. You'regiving them ten wins? Yeah, I'm
giving them them. I'm giving themten and seven. I wanted to say
eleven, but that's a little toogreedy. Yeah, I think I think
ten and seven is is appropriate herethe n seven in an easy playoff from
run, not an easy playoff run, but getting an easy playoff. You
get ten wins in the NFC,you're getting to the playoffs, yes,

(49:06):
Or if you get ten in theAFC, you're fighting somebody else for a
playoff. Yeah. You do notcontrol your own destiny. All right,
Final team here, the Washington Commanders. Commanders went eight eight and one last
year, which I feel like bysome miracle, I don't even know how
that I was gonna say, Like, I feel like they were pretty bad
for all things considered, but stillmanaged to go five hundred literally five on

(49:30):
the dot since they since they hadthe tie. I don't love samhow.
I don't think that's a hot take. No, I'm samehow. It was
basically Desmond Ridgard to me, ironically, though, in the same class that
I don't expect them to be thestarter come we like week eight, I

(49:51):
don't like, I feel like they'regonna get benched untily soon. I mean,
how there's a chance that forgetting JacobyBrissette could could just start the year
out. If you told me that, you can argue that with Heineke in
Atlanta, you can argue that hewould just straight up beat him. Let's
see what the kid has kind ofdeal. I agree, Jake From's on
that team too, geez. Yeah, I mean QB position does not instill

(50:15):
any kind of confidence, which sucksbecause you have such a exciting wide receiver
room. I don't want to saygood, but you have an exception.
I want I will go as farto say good. I mean, scary
Terry. We love, we knowhe's good. You and I both love
Johan Dotson. But like Kuris,Samuel is a good little three, I'm
adam Kuris Samuel was a good littleguy, all right. Geez, I'm

(50:37):
backing on Dax Milne. He's hereapparently, yeah, no, always been
here. He got drafted here.I don't know why I thought that he
got drafted somewhere else, but yeah, I mean, you know, I
love my Johan Dotson. I Idon't know if I'm I'm touching him and
redraft though I don't. I donot think any of these quarterbacks can support
two. I think you're going tobe surprised when you start really diving in.

(50:59):
Johan Dot's going high. It's likeI think John Dawson's the reason that
you're getting Terry McLaurin in like thefifth round, because people are for some
reason thinking Dawson's gonna sneak up onTerry McLaurin. I just don't see it.
I don't either, But I can'tthink of any other reason you're getting
Terry mclauren in the fifth round andRedraft. I mean that is a steal
and a half. But I mean, I John had seven touchdowns, which

(51:22):
is surprising over only twelve games inas a Brookie. But other than that,
racking up touchdowns long ones too.Yeah, but again, I love
them, but I'll love them nextyear when they take Caleb Williams or Drake
May. Yeah, they're good.That's when I'll be really excited. They're
gonna be running for that. Idon't know if they're gonna get enough losses

(51:43):
to be in that running. Ikind of hope so for the sake of
Book Commanders. But I think thisseems bad, dude. I mean,
I don't think it's terrible, butI don't think it's good. Like they're
not winning eight games again, that'ssure as hell is not happening. I
just look at this and I say, Okay, if I have a bat.
If I have a not good quarterback, I should probably have a pretty
good running game. You have BrianRobinson and Antonio Gibson, who both stink.

(52:07):
We'll talk about Gibson a little bit. I'm ready to plan a little
bit of a flag not really putokay, but point being that there's just
this offense is not a quarterback herethat's just strikes fear into teams. I
think this potentially could be the lowestgoing offense in the NFL. It could
be. I trying to think ofa team that would be worse than them,

(52:29):
and it's very hard. I thinkthe Bears have more firepower the Falcons.
Maybe it would be the only otherone that would be that bad,
Brocos, Texans maybe. But there'sreally this may be the worst offense in
the NFL. And I don't thinkthat's HYPERBOLEI yeah, just Sam how it

(52:52):
will be interesting as a running quarterback, I don't know if that's actually gonna
say is he gonna run? Imean he was mobile, but I don't
know if i'd call a runner.He will bring some running upside to it.
I think, like on a levelof like kind of a Kenny Pickett
kind of deal. Yeah, oryou don't think of him as a runner,
but he can't get loose. Idon't care her. It's like,

(53:13):
I still like the value of mclauren, but this as a football dampoint How
going to these receivers is not todo a whole lot to make me excited,
especially behind this offensive line, likeold Charles Lenno, Chris Paul,
who's not that cool, the notcool Chris Paul. I mean, Chris
Paul is not that cool either,but Sam caused me Andrew Wiley like these

(53:35):
are. It's just a bad line. It's a really bad line. Yeah
it is. And the defense isgood on paper, but it's just like
the last couple of years, ChaseYoung can't stay healthy. Montes was was
pretty solid, but the two tacklesare really good, but there's no linebackers.
They drafted a corner and Manuel Forbesin the first round, but the

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secondary has been rate in the lastcouple of years. It's a lot of
just mess. Yeah, a lotof questions, but there's like good players
to the point where I don't thinkthey're going to be the worst team in
the league. I think they're gonnabe the word offense. Who did I
have Falcons four and three? Fourand thirteen is my lowest one. Yeah,
probably, I think that I havebeen three and fourteen. I think
that this is good. They're gonnabe fighting right up there with They're gonna

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be one in one as bad.You're right. The defense has names,
but I mean they were talking aboutshopping Chase Young before the season, like
it. There's just so much goingon there that nothing. There's a lot
of talented names, but we haven'tseen them come to fruition. I the
own, I don't even Okay,let's talk by Tenny Gibson because obviously you

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want scary Terry. He's gonna waytwenty five. I think you're right,
that's a steal the draft. AntennaGibson is going late late, Sorry I
lost his I lost my place here. Running backs, yeah he I don't.
Obviously, neither of us like BrianRobinson coming in, but a Tenny

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Gibson Gibson Wolf Tilly Gibson wide receiverrunning back thirty two. Yeah, but
here's the thing. What if Robinson'sthirty four? What if with BM and
me coming, what if Gibson justturned into a bigger Jerick McKinnon from last
year. What if I just don'tthink he has the skill set of Jack
mckinn. I think Jack McKinnon isway more athletic. I think it's faster.

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I don't know about that, Jim, I don't know. We were
talking about Antonio Gibson as a superathlete coming out of school because some people
were don't say you, don't sayyou. I was. I know I
was not, okay, But Imean he's he's a interesting player. He's
intriguing at running back thirty two.I'd rather have him over James Cook probably

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maybe Pacheco. James cooks a littlebit more interesting now that that Damien Harris,
Harris and Nahim Heinz got injured.Oh yeah, that so that's that's
a crazy story. But even Ithink there's a cap if I remember correctly,

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there, Devin Singletary was still gettinglike fifty targets every season, So
now that workloads a little bit separated. I can see it. But yeah,
but we're not talking about him.But I'm saying it, like Antenna
Gibson at his value, Sure,maybe I'll take a shot on him.
I would rather I would absolutely ratherhave him over Brian Robinson just because the

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PPR upside on on Gibson I thinkis much higher. But I'm not excited
about anybody on this team other thanscary Terry, and even then I am
still a little hesitant, although Ithink his value is good. Johan going
at thirty five right behind Mike Evans, Oh that feels dirty. Would you
rather have Mike Evans or John Dotsons? Mike Evans or John dots Mike Evans

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has said, Hey, let meask you this way. Would you rather
have Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans?Would you rather have Sam Howell and John
Dodson? Yeah, definitely might MikeEvans. Yeah, that's just love it.
Yeah, this is just a roughteam, have enough where I don't
think they're gonna be the last placein this They're gonna be the last place
in division for sure. Last indivision, absolutely, But are they going
to get the number one overall pick? I don't think so. I think

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I would bet the Lopkins will havesomething to say it about that. The
Texans might have something to say itabout that. We'll talk about the Cardinals
here in weeks. The Cardinals mighthave something to say about that. Yeah,
the Cardinals are the Cardinals are accidentallyreally bad. I don't think there's
anything accidental about it. Logan Thomas, we don't even talk about Lodomas Trape.
Nah, let's just move on topredictions. Yeah, all right,
give me the give me the record. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go

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five and twelve. Why do youget take in my record. I'm gonna
say they're the worst team. Leak. I'm gonna say they're three and fourteen,
three and sorry sorry, three thirteenand one. Oh yeah, that's
how I lose on the first overallpicks, because three thirteen and one.
You heard it here first. Ithink the team is gonna be dog Water.

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All right, let's wrap up withour MVP of the NFC East.
It's gotta be Sake one. Right, I mean there's Sake. You have
a couple of options. You haveSake one. Here, you have you
have a j Brown here, jBrown ceedee lamb lamb. This is a
good Okay. Yeah, I'm gonnago jail hurt Sikes another stuff. I

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take jail and hurts. Oh.I like the jail and hurts pick.
Also, I Tony Pollarded, youcan make in this case too. I'm
gonna say Cedee lamb my boy,give me my boy. It's fair.
Uh talking about busts, I'm justgonna say Dak Prescott. He jinks himself
by saying he's gonna throw less thanten interceptions. I think he throws fifteen.
I think he's gonna stank. He'sgonna be the reason this team doesn't
make the playoffs. This here,I know I give this caveat all the

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time, but I'm not saying thisguy's gonna bust. I'm saying he is
going to not exceed his ADP.I think that's gonna be Tony Pollard.
Yeah, that's fair. That's secondof very high second round pick, like
a top twenty. You have tospend a top twenty pick on Tony Pollard.
I think that's a little bit risky. He probably nets a little bit
closer towards the third round. I'msplitting hairs. But if we're going literal,

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yeah, yeah, if he's draftedrunning back five, he's gonna finish
his running back eleven. Uh,sleepy, give me a sleepy. I'm
gonna go with Antony Gibson. Ithink we're gonna say that. I think
there's a chance that he's not hugelyfantasy relevant but has something you can maybe
spot start up. Maybe I hatethis, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna

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say one Dale. That's a goodone. I don't love one Dale,
but when I'm thinking about Sleepers year, he had good value. He is
definitely the most electric athlete in thatwide receiver room. If there's any wide
receiver that can turn into something outof that hodgepodge, it's probably him.

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So give me Juan Dale Robinson andI feel dirty. I'm gonna throw up
now. I think it's everything.We will be back next week to do
WESTC West's so we're into October andthen we're into August. Yeah. Well,
we'll talk about all the hot takesfrom the Hall of Fame game,
all three of them. Yeah,although wait, we actually probably won't.

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We'll probably record before the Hall ofFame game. Oh yeahs on Thursdays,
we'll probably record. Maybe we'll recordwhile watching it. Yucko gros Fallows on
Twitter. I just said Dynasty.Uh, keep an eye out for jet
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It's about that time. So ifyou'd like to gamble on football,
uh, JB and I bring onour buddy Charlie, who is funnier than
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to you later. Bye bye,