Putting the Rookies to Bed

We do our final rankings of the 2023 rookies! This will be the last time we talk rankings for the new faces in the NFL!

Episode Transcript

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Today on jet Set Dynasty. We'retwo weeks away from the regular season.
Time to re rank some rookies.Ready, let's go, let's go,
let's go. Wait, wait,let's go. Hello everybody, Welcome back

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to jet Set Dynasty Football. BrianStein and I'm JB. And we're clothes.
We're weeks. It is today's Wednesday, August thirtieth, so you'll probably
be listening to this tomorrow, whichmeans two weeks. Stuff football. What
a what a game we have forthe first one long. I'm so I

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think it is going to be sucha good games, such a good game.
Actually, wait, it's one week. Oh yeah, it is one's
one week to wit to start thewhole thing over. Nah, okay,
you guys get it. It's twoit's one week. Yeah, it's one
week. Yeah, one week,let's go. Good for us. It's
sneaking up on this clearly very much. So. This is back to back

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really terrible introductions. If you recallfrom whatever the fuck you said last week
the f and Dynasty, Yeah,yeah, we gonna have to bring it
up. We didn't have to bringit up today. If you did,
we're just letting it go in thepast. And you decided to bring it
up again. If you didn't listenlast week, just go listen to the
first five minutes and just enjoy thegood, good, old laughing that we
had. Laughing attack. Yeah.So yeah, this is really our last

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kind of last of everything pre season, off season. Yeah, last of
the off seasons. So rosters areset, practice, squads are starting to
form, So we figured that therewould probably be a decent time to go
back and kind of re rank rookies. It'll be the last time we really
talk about these guys as rookies ina class until maybe the offseason, So

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I think it's important to just kindof reassess their value and see where they're
standing, see who's had the biggestrise and the biggest fall and all that
fun stuff. So before we dothat, the only bit of news that
we have kind of breaks my heart, and it's that Jonathan Taylor is going
to be on the pup. Yeah. So this that whole situation came out

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of left field. So shit showof a situation. Yeah, so everyone
knows who probably listens. Johnthan Taylorwas on the trade block, was given
permission to re seek a trade,and a lot of teams were apparently in
a lot more teams than I thoughtwere supposed to be in. The Dolphins
were really interested, which we kindof figured. Yeah, the Bears were
really interested, and apparently a surpriseGreen Bay Packers were interested. Yeah that

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I heard that too. That seemsinsane to me, Like, what are
you doing with three running backs?True, but it would be cool,
I guess. Oh yeah. Butanyway, so nothing gets done and now
since they this one part really didn'tmake sense to me. Since they didn't
find a trade, now they haveto put Taylor on the pup. I

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didn't understand why they had to doit. But I guess that time he
spent away training by him with apersonal trainer for his injury was real.
Was not a ploy? Yeah,Like they couldn't just pedally just put him
on the pup like that. Yeah. I don't really understand that either,
Like because like, okay, soif he would have been traded, does

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he start Week one for that team? Yes? Like okay, then if
so, then they shouldn't be ableto put him on the pup. Yeah,
Like that part was confusing to me. I don't totally understand that.
But all that matters now is itlooks like for the first Evil Future John
and the Taylor will be a cultand pup will be missing the first four
weeks due to being placed on thepup. And that's not even saying if

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he'll play after that. Wheah,who knows if he will just continue to
hold out because the other thing thatand I think he will play, because
the other option here is that ifhe doesn't play and stays on the pup
all year, this does not countas a year to contract, so he
would still be in the same positionas he was last year, which he
does not want to be in.So it's kind of a ship show.

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Honestly, it's like, it's kudosto the cults because it's like you're following
the rules and you're doing the bestfor your team, but also fuck you
colts, Like this dude is likegenerate, not generous, but he's a
top running back in the league.And your owner sits there and says,
well, we wouldn't miss a beatwithout him, and we're gonna see if
you can miss a beat. Sodo you go get Evan Hull? Do

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you go get who's it? DionJ. Jackson's It's looking like the number
one option. I hate that,which is gross. I hate that.
I think Evan holds better than him. But yeah, but they're not gonna
just yeah, they're not just gonnacrown the fifth round rookie exact draft the
mat. But there's even Zach mossO there. Oh well, slow down.
Remember when Zach mass was like afirst round pick and rookie drafts.

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All right, let's calm down alittle bit. He was, was he
not? He went to Buffalo andthey were like, oh, yeah,
they need a running back. Soyeah, I guess he was. He
was like a top six pick thatI wouldn't call it a six. It
wasn't that high. He was afirst I think you're Jim because he was
round pick. He was third round. I believe decent value. He was

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definitely a high round pick. There. All I can say is the Cults
are gonna stink. It's gonna bea very rocky first year. Yeah.
For Anthony Richardson and the Colts.He's got nobody. I mean, yes,
that team's got nothing going for it. They have like decent receivers,
but nothing that's going to They don'thave a number one receiver though they were
ala like I like Pearce Pittman's fine, but neither those guys scream wide receiver

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one to you, Like they're basicallygonna try and do the Patriots thing where
it's like where we don't have awide receiver one, we have Jelnnie Woods.
Woods is cool though. I likeJolynne Woods me too. But yeah,
it's just gonna be a real toughsledding for the Colts, and I
really hope, I hope that they'redoing the right by Anthony Richson being like,

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you need to put your muffs onfor the season because it's gonna get
bad. Yeah, but we needyou to get this playing experience, so
we need you to just truck onthrough. Did you hear like the random
shit about like how he's apparently likea really good rapper. I did not
hear. I don't know if it'ssure if I got stuck in like a
fake rabbit hole, but there wasdefinitely a music video of him rapping and

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probably has the voice for he hasa really deep voice. It probably has
a good voice for it. Themusic video was terrible, but the ras
wasn't that bad. Again, Ithink I got caught in a rabbit hole
of fake news. But somebody saidthat like some huge rapid label tried to
sign him in the off season,and ship, I might have to look

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this up on the side while wetalk. Yeah, but Andy Richardson is
Yeah, it's gonna be a roughyear for him. He made a thousand
rushing yards though, Yeah, justbecause he's running from his life exactly.
I mean, Rosen, He's gottahope they do. Isn't you know that
he stays healthy and that he playsmost of the games. I don't know
what point you sit there and say, hey, maybe this year is not
like you know, Okay, yougot your experience. Let's bencher for the

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last four weeks or something. SoI'm not entirely sure what to do with
the situation. But you stay awayfrom everybody that's not named Anthony Richinson,
I guess. But even then,I don't feel great about it. Yeah,
and they're gonna give him as muchplaying time. God, I hope
they get it up. They getlike the first or second overall pick and
they can get Marvin Harrison. That'dbe dirty. Yeah. If they get

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the first round pick or if theyget the first overall pick, do they
still take Marvin Harrison? I thinkthey would. I think they're that bought
in on Anthony Richinson where yeah,I mean, you can't take Caleb unless
unless it's a Josh Rosen level badof a rookie year, yes, which
even then I still think like theyget suckered into the intangibles. And for

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the record, I don't think itwill be a Josh Rosen level bad year
or even like a Zach Wilson levelbad rookie year. I think that I'm
thinking it's probably going to be morelike a Josh Allen first, Like yeah,
but what I'm saying is like whatguts and I think the answers they
should trade it right Thereally they tradeback to you know two or three,
you know, so you know,really sell that you're that you love Kayla
Billiams and anything we're just ain't itand forced somebody to trade up. But

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it would be wild to see MarvinHarrison Junior go before Kayla Bulliams. It
would, But they're both. Ithink they're both generational talents. I think
it wouldn't be that crazy. No, But I mean it's a quarterbackack counterpoint,
it's a quarterback. It is themost important I one small rent because
there's a little bit of Week zero. How the fuck does the pack no

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wonder the PAC twelve was going away. I couldn't watch Kayla fucking Williams zero.
I didn't have a pack. Thatwas stupid. Nobody has a Pack
twelve network, Like, what ishappening with this? I literally got myself
a nice thing, a smart popcorn, the White Cheddar. I was,
I was ready. I was likeflipping in the channels on YouTube TV,
and I was like, where isthe USC game? I could multcast an

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NFL preseason game with like Montana Stateand another random college game, but I
can't watch USC right now. Yeah, the Pact even it was a relatively
close game for like the first half. The first half was not like the
first quarter was really close and Iwas like, what's going on? And
they blew them out in the secondhalf. But yeah, I would have
loved to watch kill the Billiams.You know, the potential like what four

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or five touchdowns something? Yeah hewent I mean he went off. I
mean yeah, I was. Ihope that doesn't happen a lot because I'm
going to get You're gonna see angryBrian if I can't watch my kill the
Williams don't even know where to goto watch, like, like, does
a bar have the Pac twelve?I don't know how this works. I
don't know either. I went toI went to if you're from Pittsburgh,
you know Permann's. If you're notfrom Pittsburgh, it's like the best sandwiches

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you'll ever have in your life,if you like cole saw tomatoes, French
fries, all on your sandwich.But I went in and I was trying
to watch the WHI which game wasit? Oh? I bet on Jacksonville
State versus whoever they were playing lastweek, you know, little sits of
the Poor. I don't know whatit is, but I know I could
have watched on YouTube TV. Well, but so I was like, I
just want to get out the house. So I went and had a beer

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and watched watch this game. Andit wasn't on the TV. It was
after the Notre Dame game finished.And I look at the bart tender and
I go, uh, this isa weird question. Can you put on
the Jacksonville State game? And usuallywhen you go to a bar and it's
like, oh, you get toplay the what channel game? This woman
hands me a printed out piece ofpaper with the channel numbers on it,

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the name of the channel, andwhat games were on those channels today?
And I was like, did youdo like did they did? Like corporate
do this for She goes, no, I do that myself every week,
so I don't have to fumble throughand waste my time getting you the wrong
channel. She said, look atthat. Tell me the number and I'll
put it on the TV in frontof you. And I was like,
get that, lady employee of themonth. I was like, what are

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you doing after? Promote her?Do something that? Mom? Married?
What are you doing after? Honey? You want to split a cap and
cheese with me? Let's go allright, well, that's enough, Pittsburgh
gins are in for ourselves today.Let's let's jump into the the rookie ranks.
Huh, So quarterbacks don't change much. We would probably fly We could

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probably just fly through that one.I was gonna say, so, how
are we ranking by position or overallhere by position? Oh? Okay,
all right, that's fine. Soquarterbacks don't change much. Even though it
is going to be rocky for anthyRichardson, you still probably take him first
quarterback as just for fantasy upside.Yeah, I'm still writing down Bryce Young

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first, because you gotta put somerespect on his name. He just got
crushed this preseason. That line doesnot look like he is going to give
him a whole lot of help.That does scare me a little bit.
That scares me as well. Buthe doesn't have the legs that Richardson has
to make fantasy points out a badoff. But he has a enough legs.
He plays alive. It's not like, yeah, it's not like he's
immobiles like you CEJ Stroud, whois still not as immobile as we think

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he is. But yeah, Ithink they're both equally mobile. Stroud.
I feel like it's a little bitless, but probably maybe I'm wrong splitting
hairs at this point. Okay,so we'll put Young and Anthony Richardson one
day one, B Stroud three.We just didn't see a whole lot of
Strouds this season. Yeah, andand we didn't really he wasn't really uh

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never know what we saw. Yeah, he started every game, but I
don't think he had more than eightattempts in every game. Yeah, he
and and it was first game hehad like a really bad interception. But
but yeah, those are the obviousBig Three. Maybe DTR gets bumped up
instead of We'll love Us now O'Connell, Oh yeah, An O'Connell is actually

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worth talking about a little bit.And O'Connell he might be kind of NaSTA
he did, I'm I'm gonna writeand O'Connell not after it's We'll love us
is still there, just because it'sstill will love us. But yeah,
AOC there is. Uh, hebought a nice AOC. It's a nice
little nickname. Yeah, I justcame up with it. I'm sure it
was the first one to ever thinkof that. But yeah, I mean,

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yeah, there really has been nochange. It's taking pick of the
first two guys. If you getCJ. Stratt at you, there's your
third quarterback, you're doing backflips.Will Levis didn't look great. That's probably
the one that I'm most concerned abouton these you know, earlier guys.
Also, when Malik Wills got moretaught in the preseason than you did,
that's a bad sign, not good. And DCR we talked a little bit

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and or sorry, Max Suckan gotcut that kind of sucked out. I
was surprised he'll sign on somewhere.But uh, and then do you even
talk about like Clayton Tune, hemight start, he might start. I
think I think he might be theWeek one starter. I think Dobbs is
gonna start over him. But weawful week They're just gonna throw Josh Dobbs
onto it week one. I didn'twatch much of Clayton Tune, but I

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can't imagine that he's particular. Butat least he's a couple of months familiar
with the system. Is a hidefrom Josh Dobbs, who's a week end
to it. I mean he startedon a week's notice for Tennessee last year.
I guess you're not wrong, butI mean that's an emergency, emergency
situation. They're in an emergency situation. I mean they've put themselves. The
Cardinals did into all the options inthe world to bring in another quarterback,

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but almost heels like they don't wantto win many games. No, I
wonder speaking of Caleb, Yeah,did you see the new the like mini
news blurb that popped up over theSteve Kime thing. So their old GM
was like suspended for I think itwas like he had like multiple DUIs.
But so the NFL suspended him forhowever many games however, that works.

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And apparently Steve Wilkes, who wason the coaching staff of the time,
just reported or just I don't knowif it was like in a hearing or
what, that he was given aBurner phone to communicate with the GM when
he was suspended and it was whilethey were negotiating the David Johnson deal.
It's like this team is a shitshow. Like from top to bottom,

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this this has to be one ofthe worst run teams league has to be,
Like, it might be worse thanthe Browns at this point when you
look at that roster at this point. Oh yeah, I think it's definitely
worse in Washington, I mean topdown now that at least the Josh Harris
is in for the Commanders now.But yeah, this was probably the worst
run team in the league the lastI just want to I like these fun

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stories. Have you followed the TysonBadgeant stuff at all a little bit?
I know the name? Yeah,so he was a rookie, undrafted rookie
I'm pretty sure out of Shepherd Universityin West Virginia, D two I believe,
zero stars coming out, zero collegeoffers, zero D one offers,
went to Shepherd broke all the records, and then he was an undrafted free

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agent and then he won the backupjob for Justin Fields. Pretty cool?
Is he like a mobile guy orI don't. I don't think so,
but I don't. I do lovethe nice the D two player making it,
especially at a quarterback undrafted free agentsetting too. He threw for seventeen
hundred yards and one hundred and sixtytouchdowns and at Shepherd insane, I like,

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seventeen thousand and thirty four yards.I like, I almost didn't read
that, and I was like,wait, even if that's five years,
that's like over three thousand yards ayear. That's like fifty four hundred yards
age. Pretty insane. Up goand badget Yeah, And also one hundred
and sixty touchdowns? How many lots? Like even divide that by ten,
that's sixteen. Sorry, wait,no, divide that by five. That's

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a lot. Math is hard.That's a lot of touchdowns. But yeah,
it's a kind of cool story.But yeah, obviously nobody you're super
clamoring four. Uh, let's jumpto you go running backs next, running
back school. It's still bijan.It's still bijean either Bijan looks like he's
going to get so many just noteven carries or targets, just so many

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touches in general. You see,he was as a third running back on
the Dead Sharks. Still, yeah, come on, who we hid in?
Come on? If that takes aweek one against whatever bums they play,
I know it's a bad game.Oh we just talked about. Isn't
it there Raiders? I forget whoit is? Is it the Raiders?
It's another bad team? No,they played the Panthers. You're right,

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Yeah it's Panthers. Yeah, it'sdivisional. If they line up for that
first offensive snap and Tyler al Jeersin the background, I'll shoot a brick.
Oh, I love it, becausethat's what they were doing in the
preseason, was they gave Algier thestarts and then put Bichon in the second
carry the second play the game.But yeah, Bijan's won one. You're
not worried about it and not thathasn't changed. Same with Gibbs. I
think you can still make the casethat you should be taking if you were

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to do a redraft or another drafttoday, you would take Gibs over any
receiver at this point. Yeah,I mean yeah, especially with the JSN
kind of ding up, Like,yeah, I would agree with that.
Here's where it gets a little interestingbecause you know, Sharps was pretty much
the third guy, and then itgets drafted. Drafted look nice in the
preseason he did. He looked likethe bowling ball that we saw at UCLA.

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That's crazy, Like there's such adrop off here. Oh, it's
such a drop off the big tierhere. I mean, I kind of
want a chain here, if I'mbeing totally honest, h I literally have
sharpon a chain next to each otherlike I have this entire offseason. Yeah
Hhain just keeps sliding away. Besidesone Ac injury, he's been sliding away
from tragedy, dodging it like thematrix. It's like possible, Don and

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Taylor Nope, possible, Darvin CookNope, gets injured. It's just an
Ac not out for too long.He is dodging stuff like the plague.
He really is, Yeah, whichis you're absolutely right there. It's like
they're trying to do everything they canto not start them. It's like,
honestly, first of all, theycut Miles Gasconyer. Remember when he had
like a top twelve yes, andhe went to Minnesota. So did he

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go to Minnesota? Yeah, Ohmy god, I didn't see that.
It actually gets more snaps. Again, that's gross, But they should just
bring him sucking lender for Net likewe're Kareem Kareem Apparently Cream Hunt right now
apparently has four legit offers on thetable and he's saying no to them.
Yes, why it's time to nutup or shut up? Yeah for real,

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at this point, what are yougetting more money within this next week
and a half before the season starts. Yeah, but yeah, I think,
yeah, if they brings somebody andthey need to bring in somebody like
I would rather than see for nextI think for Net would be a great
thunder lightning for a chain. Fromwhere I think Hunt is like, oh
hey, I can still catch passes, but they never needed a big time
running back. They love that committeethat they run. That's true. I

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mean, you're you're not wrong.It is the Niner system, after all,
we keep saying it isn't. Atthe end of the day, it's
still the Niners. So we gotBijon, we got Gibbs, we got
a chain, we got Sharps.I'm still going at five the person who
I still will think looked great inthe playoffs and still had as a top
five back. I'm still going Tajahere in the playoffs or in the preseason.

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You want to put Taj the tank, Bigsby, I have Tank next
if that makes you feel better,denied, how disagree? What tank is
gonna have a roll week one?Fair immediately. I don't know how big
that role is yet, though it'sgonna be way bigger than whatever the fuck
Taj Spears is gonna do, holdingyou know, tying fucking Derrick Henry's but
only for a year. Yeah,that's fine, biggs By m I like

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Bigsby. I do too, althoughI will say the way that Taj Spears
moves is different, like you canmaybe it's because he doesn't have a CLS,
but the physically that that he hasthat one touchdown from like I think
it was Week two. It wasthat long, long run where he like
side step, Yeah, is thatweird side step? It's not even a
side steff. He literally just likelike how you would step over a log.

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You would step over it and thenjust hit on the gas again.
It was outrageous, Like it wasso weird. He runs like you know
those walking uh, those walking maneuversat the airports. Oh, yeah,
he looks like he's running on those. You're right. It's like it's almost
like his upper body is like sostill, yes, Like his lower body
is just like booop, and hisupper body's like I'm not going anywhere.

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I finally watched the Flash movie,and that's kind of what I think it's
like for him. It's just likehe's just gliding. Everything's just a little
bit slower for him. He's justabsolutely moving like a gazelle with no acls.
So I'm still putting, I'm stillfighting tank for Tank is right next
to me that it's not a hardself because you're you're your number one.
Fight for Tank was oh this oneyear. We all know when Taji is

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gonna if Tad's ever gonna have achance to be a full, full guy
this year. True, but Icould see him do one more year.
Actually, I don't know if Icould. We're literally at six, and
I would consider the running backs we'vetalked about in three separate tiers, because
I think there's another tier drop afterthis. I would well, I think
Bijan would be his own tier.I think gives us his own tier and
then I think a chain sharps inone. Yeah, I don't. I

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mean, if you told me youwould you wanted to put Bigsby in in
Taji in the same tier as achain and Sharps, I wouldn't hate you.
But yeah, with they're separate.So we're gonna we're gonna write in
Tank and we're writing down Taj afterthat, because this is my podcasting,
I have the pen in my hand. That's fine. I won't fight you

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on it. After that, itgets kind of gross. I mean,
you got Kendra, who's going tohave some sort of role for at least
four weeks while Kamara is banged upAKA banging somebody else up. You got,
you got Deuce. I wanted towrite Deuce down. Couldn't do it,

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but I wanted to. I wantedto really bad. Also, Chase
Brown is pretty much locked up asthe backup for Joe Mixon. Isn't Trey
Vian Williams still there? I thoughthe was gone, but I know you
might be right. Yeah, Sofor me, I would have Roshan and
Kendra here at seven to eight inthat order. I didn't see a whole

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lot of and raid the saut seasonor this preseason is still there, and
so is Chris Evans. Sorry,but what I did see from Rochean I
was really impressed with. Granted,he didn't do anything spectacular. He kind
of just looked like a hard nosedrunner, but yeah, it looked good
in the small steps that I sawof him. Rochan did what I wanted
him too. I think you don't. We're not clamoring for any of these

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backs, even Kendrick Miller. I'mnot really clamoring for Nah, but yeah,
what was guns to do? DeuceVaughan was cool to see him make
the team. He may actually havea little bit of a role there.
Who knows, but he will becausethey come on like Davis didn't they isn't
Rico Daddle still there? I meansaid that with a straight face. So

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after that, we were nine.With the recent news, I want to
put Evan Hall here. Yeah,I agree, I think Hall is the
next one. Again, not wedidn't see a whole lot, but I'm
still backing on. I still thinkHall is a great just all was running
back. He can do a littlebit of everything, and I hope he
gets an opportunity in these first coupleof weeks thought John Taylor to kind of

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show that. I think that'd begreat to see him get a couple.
This sounds terrible, but I reallyhope Zach Moss doesn't play Week one with
that arm that with that arm injuryyet I don't, so I think that
actually give some Carris Devin Hall andsee what happens. I think that even
with Zack Moss there, he hasn'tplayed all offseason or all all training camp,

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so I think they would just defaultand give it to Evan Hall is
the second guy behind Deon Jackson.Tell me where Deon Jackson went to college,
Kansas State. Duke wasn't even close. Yeah, I wouldn't have ever
guessed it. Yeah, kick yeahkick yeck uh yeah. I think that's

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pretty much it for the running backshere. I mean other guys we haven't
mentioned. Zach Evans, he's madethe team. Sean Tucker apparently look good
on accident it once or twice.Keaton Mitchell, a guy that's kind of
a meme in one of our leagues, made the Ravens Ravens over Melvin Gordon.
Eric Gray is looking to be thebackup in New York. Is he

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is? He about it. Iwas literally looking up is he didn't he
made it? Because they they cutBam? Oh? Did they cut Bam?
Officially? That's what I was wondering. I'm like, Okay, there's
four running backs here. First off, I was surprised they kept four.
And second, who am I missing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Bam
is the one I'm missing. OhMichael Carter. Mike car made it.
Yeah, I know. That's whyI was like, who's the fourth?
I was Michael Carter? Yeah,I mean I see four people who aren't

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gonna play special teams though, andit's running back. Oh, is he'll
play special teams? I've bet fair. But you're right cooking h cooking pre
say touching that. I think MichaelCarter probably has to as well at this
point. Yeah, I'm glad it. Bannon Handa made it so just for
the good field good story, Iwant to put him a ten. Okay,
cool with that. I didn't realizeKenny McIntosh got hurt. That stinks.

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Yeah, the wasn't any surprise.Like a lot of the rookies made
it. I feel made the fiftythree. Yeah, there were a couple.
I think, like I always think, like, unless you're a seventh
round pick. I'm surprised if youdon't make the team. But like Dwayne
McBride got cut and that was one, and I was like, oh really,
yeah, running back, you lostDayne McBride. That stings, but
everybody else pretty much stuck around.It's also weird because it's like those guys

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are all getting up on practice squadsanyways. So it's like, Chris Rodriguez
make it. That's a good question. That's only who I was about to
say, everybody on from my fifteenup made it or but I don't know
about Chris Rodriguez. But same thingwith wide receivers too. We're talking about
here in a second. He didn'tmake the final roster. Even late.
People like I always bought his nameAndre Yeah, yeah, the Harvard kid.

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He looked really good in preseason.Yeah, he did looked really really
good. I Palmer made it,Whokku made it. I was a big
fan of that Harvard kid. Ireally liked what he did, what he
was doing. Yeah, a lotof cut him in a league, So
go ahead and go which lake Ican't remember. You have to look never
make things easy for me. Yeah, I mean a lot of these guys
made it a Kashawn Booty's getting alittle bit of hype, like any receiver

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in New England has to be gettingsome sort of hype, but they have
nobody at this point. My boyTyler Scott made it. Apparently there was
a pretty bad video of him suckingup a play. It's not good rip,
but okay, well, let's let'srank the wide receivers now, all
right, I will still give youJasen at one. Yeah, and if
you didn't, I would end thepodcast now. So wait, really,

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oh yeah, I thought I was. I thought you were gonna be a
good job. Ab like, Iknow you're an Addison guy, but nope,
Nope, Jasen is bought and hean injury. And Addison's definitely going
to be the number two coming outof the gate. I don't know definitely,
but I mean, so what Iwill say is that Addison, I
think is to me, has Ifeel much better about him at two?

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I feel much. I was alittle concerned about his transition to the NFL,
and so far, so good.Jayson, I mean, Jayson was
making great catches all preseason, andwe at least give me that they should
be in the same tier. No, come on, give me that,
at Las, give me that.At least JN is borderline generational. No,

(28:15):
he's not come on borderline, borderline. He's on the wrong side of
the border. He's in Mexico,but he's he's close to the border.
Geez, build that wall. Justkidding, just kidding. Uh, yeah,
it's okay. So here's my firstflippy floppy flowers three, Yeah,

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clean three. I thinks a flowersif it was nice. I think he's
sneaky, is going to be startableweekend and we got in fantasy. If
that passing attack gets off the groundlike they wanted to, yeah, I
mean they're gonna put all everything theyhave into it. And I mean he's
running crisp. Else he's looking greatwith a ball in his hands after the
catch. I think that him andOdell are going to be a really,

(29:04):
really fun combo. I think thinkespecially because still in that offense, neither
of them are the one. It'sstill Mark Andrews before everybody else. Yep,
exactly, and that's going to givethem so much more room to work.
It's it's awesome. I've very clearlymy number three here. Quentin Johnstone

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has to be four just because wonthe draft Capitol two. He he didn't
look bad and pretty and I thinkhe had a couple of drop seas if
I recall, but that's gonna happen. It will never not be a drops
thing with Quentin Johnston if if Iwere to put my money on anything,
Yeah, I agree with that.So jsn Addison, z A. Flowers,
Quentin Johnson A four. This thisis where it gets. This is

(29:49):
a very big tear dropper right here. Yes, I am thinking about,
like I don't like Mingo, butI think Mingo deserves discussion here. Jaden
Reid has been getting starting snaps.Hyatt looked really good. Boom, there's

(30:10):
the five for me. Also,Tank Dell, You've mentioned who I got
coming up, But for right nowfive, I'm gonna go with Hyatt.
Definitely, not because it's your secondfavorite team, right No, I legitimately
think that because I do think Hyattis going to start relatively soon. Whether
you can make the case to putJade Reid ahead of him, because Jane

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Reid is also going to be startingsoon and was drafted higher. I still
really like Hides what he's going tobring to that Giant's defense as a d
threat. Well, Let's also rememberwhat starting means for Jaden Reid. He's
in three wide. Yeah, he'sin three wide. Hyatt potentially could be
starting in two wides, like hecould be an every down player for them.

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So because they're not just letting himgo out and play receiver, they
are scheming him open with a lotof motion like at Tennessee. So they
understand that that is a big partof his game and they're going to utilize
him that way. So I'm happyabout that and why I think they're gonna
give Jalen Hyatt a chance to succeed. Did you see the rep against Sauce
Gardner. Yes, I like that. That made me feel pretty good about

(31:15):
Jayala Hyatt, even though I thinkI think it was a couple of plays
after that Gardner locked him up.Yeah, you're not gonna beat him every
If he beats him every time,I'm gonna call him Antonio Brown Jr.
They're fair. Like the fact thathe beat him once was good enough for
me, and beat him pretty cleanly. Yeah, So we're talking the people
who I think are going to startreally early. That's high read and with

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injuries that Jared Judy, Marvin Mimsis sneaking in here. I really like
Carvins keep not saying Tank Dell.Can we mention that think thee's probably gonna
start, Yes, he's not gonnastart right away. I still think the
two wide is good, or likethree wide is gonna be Bobby Trees,
Neila Collins, John Mechi. Ifeel like I didn't hear a lot about

(31:59):
John Metchi this obviously, and Ithink that worries me. I didn't.
I didn't put it would be veryhard for me to believe that they wouldn't
give him the opportunity to play andsee what they have. Sure that's true,
but okay, so sorry, notthat cut you off from who you're
talking about. Read Jane Reid.Yeah, Jin Reid, he's going to
be starting in three wide. Iam pretty excited about that. I think

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he is going to be a verygood receiver. I think he is capped
though he's there's a chance he cansurplant Romeo Dobbs and become the number two
maybe, But I think that wholeteam is just set up very well in
the receiver room because you're going youhave Reid who you want to play in

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the slot. You like Romeo Dobbs, is that second tier outside guy,
and then you have Christian Watson asyou're one, but you have so much
versatility between Jane Reid, who canplay inside and outside. When you want
to put Watson in emotion like youdo, you can afford to have Jane
Reid go to the outside. SoI like that. Again, I said
it from day one. I don'tknow what Jane Reid's fantasy upside is,

(33:07):
but I really like him as ascheme fit for that team. Yeah.
I think I've not been a bigJane Reid fan since day one. I
think everything you said there is goodis correct, and I agree with I
just I just don't know what theupside for him really is going to be.
It's just way it's too crowded ofa room. I don't think he

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is marginally better than Dobbs. He'sdefinitely not better than Watson. I think
that unless Jordan Love freaks out thisyear and you know, supports two a
thousand yards seat receivers and then JaneReid's picking up like eight hundred yards.
I'm not really super excited about JaneReid because I think Jane reads in a
tough spot where the way that teamis set up next year, they're gonna

(33:52):
draft a wide receiver. They're gonnabring another wide receiver in because there's not
a wide receiver one on the roster, which means he's gonna get bumped down
to the fourth spot one way oranother. That's the one thing that scares
me. Do you discar with me? No? But because I'm not as
big as a Christian, Watson shouldbe a wide receiver one. So I

(34:14):
would love him too. We wetalked about all all this, you know,
all the hype for him, butI haven't seen it yet. He
still still has drop issues. Hedoes talking about dropsies again. I mean,
he really struggles to catch that ball. And that's enough to scare me
off for you know, saying,Hey, this guy's gonna be an alpha
wid receiver one. I want tohear my packers, how take give it

(34:35):
to me. Luke Musgrave will havemore yards than Jane read this year.
That's I like that take. Iwould I jump on that with you.
I think Luke Musgrave is gonna behuge in this offense. Yeah, I
think he's gonna and he practically thestarter right now because nobody else is there.
I don't think they have two,and they have two rookies, and
I think like Joseph Daguara, Ohyeah, it's Aguara. I forgot about

(35:00):
him. So we have Ja saidand we have bad asson. We have
z Flowers, QJ. We puta big tier line here and we put
highatt and then Jane Reid next.I'm somewhere between Mims, I, Tank,
Dell and Mingo. Those are thethree I have in order here in

(35:22):
that order, no, I haveMims, Mango, Mango, Mingo,
and Tank. Mims, Mango andTank. Because so Mims, I'm kind
of going off talent because I thinkhe had a couple of catches, but
he didn't have a whole lot ofshowing out in the preseason. But with
Jared Judy out, with kJ Hamlerout, with Tim Patrick out, they

(35:43):
are getting thin. And I stillthink Mims is a very good receiver and
can bring a level of deep threatthat they don't have on that team yet,
because I think he is a betterdeep threat. Thank kJ Hamler.
At this point, I would,oh, yeah for sure. So even
when Judy comes back, I cansee him still holding this role as the
deep thread and him still getting snapsif he does perform well in these first

(36:05):
couple of weeks that Judy might miss. Yeah, I've I would have to
agree with you here. The onlything that I will say, we're talking
about snaps and stuff like that,mingoes walking into kind of a starting line,
so you could I could see theallure of it to say, hey,
let's put Mingo above Mims because Ican see it. It just makes
so much more more more. Buthe's gonna have higher, higher snap chairs

(36:30):
from day one. But I dothink that Mims is a better quarter or
better wide receiver. I do likeMingo the couple snaps I did see.
I'm like, this dude moves reallywell for a guy his size. He
does. I'm just very quickly walkingback all the Panthers hype that I have
seen because deathly afraid that offensive lineis not going to be as good as

(36:52):
I thought and they're going to getBryce Young killed. Yes, that is
that is a big concern. Idon't know if it was maybe the preseason
they were like, we're just gonnalike not really try. I don't know
which as I know it is notwhat's happening. But I'm trying to think
of a reason why that offensive linewas so bad, and I don't really
have an answer, but yeah,they scared. The line scares me for

(37:13):
that whole team, for that everybody. But I'm still I agree with I
think Mems should be ahead of him. And then yeah, so he mentioned
Mims, we mentioned Mingo, TankDelic, we said he had a pretty
hot start to camp. I felirehe kind of got quiet in the like
as we got close for the startof the season. But any guys like
Josh Downs I think should be uphere. Yeah, I have favorite.

(37:34):
We haven't talked about Rasheet Rice.Yeah, I literally have Roshi Rice Slash
Downs from my ten right now.Yeah, I think Downs. You can
make a case to put Rice inthis kind of in the Mims Mingo Tank
comba. I just don't know who'sgoing to be fantasy relevant if his name
isn't Travis Kelsey. With Patrick Humpsstarring the ball, we don't know who's
going to be any good for fantasy. Yeah, I agree, that's that

(37:55):
is the one Downs and then Downsis just for lack of a better time,
Down because again, you're the widerecuper three on your team on a
team that's going to be struggling thiswhole season. Yeah, yeah, I
can see, and I don't know. The more the more I sit with
it, the more I don't thinkAndy Richardson is going to be the let's
get the checkdowns kind of quarterback.He's going to be the let's get these

(38:22):
big plays. We're gonna be downby twenty a lot. Yeah, I
mean he's gonna he will not bea checkdown guy at all. But who
knows? Who fucking knows this is? That team is gonna be really bad.
It's gonna be really, really reallybad, especially especially just to get
off track a little bit, AlecPierce is making me sus I keep seeing

(38:45):
him drop way too many passes.He has not been as good as I
hoped he would be for as manyshares of him that I have. Yes,
So yeah, that is somebody elsethat this is a make or break
year, even though it's only yeartwo. I'd argue that just because God,
bro, you you have looked roughrecently. Uh. Two guys that

(39:08):
bottom of the barrel, guys thatare semi worth mentioning. E Ceter Tilman
made the Browns. Ceter Tillman wasthe first guy. E c. Tema
had a couple of nice plays.Yeah, he hit a decent off season
or did decent preseason. He justhas a lot of people in front of
him. Yeah, Puka Nuka hada pretty nice camp. They've I feel
like that happens every year, LikeI like it's happened with like Van Jefferson

(39:29):
over there a couple of years ago, where they were like, oh,
we love him. I was like, Oh, he's getting He's still good
for five hundred yards. But KishanBudi, I think we mentioned at the
beginning of the show that you knowthere's some rumblings there just because there's nobody
else to talk about. Michael Wilsonmight be starting in three wide sets for
Arizona that I saw. I don'tthink I watched a second of Michael Wilson.
I saw a couple a couple ofplays, like even like college stuff,

(39:52):
I don't think I watched it.I drafted I drafted him in our
pre draft. Did you look wheredo you even go to school? Stanford
US? The oh, he's aStanford guy. Okay, I did watch
him, okay. Uh. Andthen Tyler Scott if you're talking about your
guy, I talk about Tyler Scott'shandsome and he's good at football. Most
of the time. But boast Cincinnatireceivers staying was huge. Andre and Charlie

(40:14):
I say you boy, Charlie Jonesmade it too. That's big. Especially
they booted Trent Taylor the punt returners, so I'm hoping it's gonna be Charlie
Jones. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, There's there are some like
bottom of the barrel guys, likeall those guys we just talked about.
I'd love to have a cheap shareor two of each of those guys,
like just to spread it out alittle bit. Like those are all guys

(40:34):
that aren't going to play right awayor do anything fun, but we uh,
they have some upside. So let'stalk about tight end for a second.
I am really excited about this tightend crew going. And like,
I know, we shouldn't be bangingon rookies for receiving for fantasy points in
their first season, but they're allgoing to really interesting situation. They really

(40:59):
that seemed to want to feature themand feature them early. Yeah, Dalton
Kincaid obviously the number one. Helooks like he's just basically going to be
the second receiver for at this point. They even said the head coach what's
his face even? Thank you McDermottsend an interview is like, yeah,
he's basically our slot receiver. Yeah, he said he's playing the A in
the office, and we said that. We kept saying, yeah, we

(41:22):
like Cleo Shakier, Yeah, welike isaaih Or there was another McKenzie.
McKenzie somewhere else now, But anyway, that that slot receiver that we've chased
for so long and Buffalo might justnow. Yeah, I think King Kids
will end up being the steel ofthis draft. I think that. I
think that they're gonna use the shitout of him and it's gonna be awesome.

(41:45):
And then even after that, Idon't know what's going on Michael Mayer
in Vegas. I just imagine he'sgoing to eventually legally obligated to start him
because nobody else is good there.But and then there's guys like Laporta and
Musgrave. I think I'm interested seewho's going to have a better season in
that AFC North rookie tight end matchupbecause they both have gotten hype. But

(42:07):
I don't know, I don't knowwho has like the who's in the better
situation there. It's got to beat least for the first six games until
Jameson Williams gets back. It hasto be Laporta, right, I don't
know. Musgrave makes more sense.He's the more traditional tight end they've had
in that system. That's true.Laporta is a totally opposite one that they've
had from Hawkinson, from Hawkinson andthen before that, Like I guess he's

(42:31):
closer to that Eric abron Tye.But but they want to use him as
a receiver. Sam Aporta, Ithink I gun to my head, I
might take Musgrave above Laporta. Yeah, I would take the other side of
that. But I don't disagree withwhat you're saying. I just think that

(42:52):
you obviously you have you have amon Raw and then you have Jamison Williams.
But when you don't have Jamison Williams, Marvin Joe the for three games
a year. But whereas Dobbs,Watson, Jaden Reid, Aaron Jones,
there's a few more guys there thatare gonna fight for carry or fight for

(43:12):
touches. But yeah, Tomato,Tomato, even I know it's easy to
say, but we got a buddythat went to the last Dealers preseason game
and he pretty much just was like, it's so much, it's so much
more obvious how big, how muchbigger Darnel Washington is than just everybody else,

(43:36):
everybody else. He's a massive humanbeing. And I'm gonna be honest,
that scares me for my fearmouth shares. Really. Oh yeah, dude,
I mean, first of all,I think that I think I don't
think muth is gonna have this seasonthe touchdowns that he had last year.
I think it's gonna get spread outacross Pickens and Robinson and Darnell Washington and

(43:57):
naj and Jalen Warren. But II'm excited about Darnel Washington, not really
for fantasy, Like, no chanceI'm ever thinking about starting him year,
and probably not even next year.I'd argue you have a more likely chance
of starting Luke's Schoonmaker before Washington.Is Schoonmaker gonna start? No, I
think it's gonna be Jack Ferguson.But yeah, there's this tight end class

(44:22):
is like sneaky deep. Yeah,it is really deep. And then we
have you've talked about someone like BrendanStrange. He still went in the second
round, but then they locked upat Ingram So that looks such a weird
Yeah. He when he got theydid well. They did draft him and
then signed Ingram long term. Ibelieve that's how that goes. So it
was more of like an insurance.But that was a really expensive insurance.

(44:42):
But it took a second round BrendanStrange. I mean, ever Ingram is
known to be banged up here andthere. True, But yeah, I
think that's redrafting. He's looking atit back now. Not really a ton
of change. I think Zay Flowersbeing locked in as a qbat or as
a receiver three is probably one ofthe biggest ones. I think high at
jumping is big. After that,a lot of it really stayed the same.

(45:07):
Yeah, I feel like the runningbacks didn't really alter. I'd argue,
since if you take my pre draftrankings, you take my post draft
rankings. I feel like right nowthey get closer to my pre draft rankings
where I have like Tank really high, and I've Taj really high and Jill
and high at really high. Yeah, I mean that's a good point that.

(45:28):
Yeah, Tank and Tank had akind of a dip after the draft,
and I think now he's coming backto where he started. Same thing
with TAJ people love TAJ, thenreally I consider Tank Tank Dell like a
bottom like like closer to that bottomend of a top ten wide receiver.
And that's where I have him hereat nine. Yeah that's true. Yeah,

(45:49):
I mean, yeah, they're reallyYeah, not a ton of changes
here, but it's it's still agood exercise to keep just fresh of.
Hey, where's the value stand?Are there any big changes guys you want
to buy low on? Or whichone of these guys would you be would
you feel best to play on aweek tweek basis that isn't one of the
top four guys, that isn't thetop two in wide receiver? Running back

(46:10):
A chain, A chain is agood one. A chain and is a
I think I mean, and evenif you'm going to go even deeper,
I would say, I think Hyattis gonna is a guy that will it
won't be consistent, but he's gonnahave some big weeks. Yes, Hia
will be great for best ball.Yes, Hi, it will be fun
for best Hi. I should probablygo five rounds before. He usually doesn't

(46:30):
redraft and best Ball. Yeah,Sharbona is right now. It has my
own personal vibe of like a guythat I just incredibly, like just avoided
like the plague that oh, Ijust avoided all Seahawks running backs, like
the plague in drafts I do.I have two more, one this weekend,
and I still probably still have twomore drafts. I do. Jesus

(46:52):
Christ, I didn't realize you're inthat many redrafts, but yeah, that
I can already feel it now thatlike somebody who drafts one of those two
running backs in Seattle, it's gonnait's gonna be like a league winner.
It's like, well, I'm tooknone of those guys because they just they
scared this shit out of me.But I think that's about everything, right,

(47:13):
But everything, that's about all.She wrote. Next time you hear
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(47:36):
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now yea, yeah, they're right, it is made up. He didn't
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(47:57):
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