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Today on jet Set Dynasty, ourRedraft preview is here. We are deep
in the preseason and we're back fromour vacations. Ready, let's go,
let's go, let's go. Wait, let's go. Hello, everybody,

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welcome back to jet Set Dynasty Football. Brian Stein and I'm JB. And
we just had some technical difficulties andit took us much longer to get going
than I planned. But we're back. We're rolling. You take one week
off and everything goes to hell.But how was your vacation? Mine was
a work vacation, but it wasstill a still a nice time. I

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was in Nashville for a week fora work conference. A lot of friends
were made, a lot of memorieswere made, and a lot of alcoholis
drank. So I think that's Idon't know if I can ask for much
more. Oh, and I guessI learned stuff too. Learning stuff is
cool. Yeah, but you hada litt vacation too, it didn't yeh.
Yeah. I went under hot,stinky, stinky, sweaty Florida,
the hottest month of the season,of the year, and the hottest recorded

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year in history. I went downto stinky Florida, America's armpit sorry,
Florida listeners. Sorry, Yeah,if you listened to their move like I
am part, were you in likemiddle like Orlando? Okay, I wasn't
down towards the tip. Yeah,just the tip you wanted, just the

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tip of not just the tip.Okay. Yeah, it was a good
time. Yeah, it's just yeah, it's crazy hot down there. I
don't get it. But there's likelizards and big bugs. Yeah. Shit,
there's a there's a TikTok that Ihave like channel that I've like stumbled
upon that. Now they know thatI watched the whole video, so I
see every one on one of them. This guy just walking around like the

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Everglades and he just like goes aroundlike picks up like chameleons and like snakes
and shiite. He just like,yeah, it's a it's a wild thing.
No, no, no, no, But we're back. I had
my first redraft league last week,or I guess two days ago on Sunday.
I've picked from the ninth spot outof twelve half PPR league. I

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felt okay until way right out ofrunning backs in the third round, but
I was it really realignited my firemore so than even like the preseason games
didn't. So preseason games are cool? Yeah, do we do? We
want to talk about any like,we'll get into it next week. Let's
see what's let's see what things trend. Yeah, the one thing I want

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to highlight it or the one questionI want to ask you about preseason And
we've only seen one game of itso far. But are we kind of
feeling good about Malik kunning him?No, we're not feeling good about I
didn't know where you're going. Ifeel about un But if there's one team
or there's one coach in the leaguethat can like figure out that kind of
guy, it's Bill Belichick. Whatis there to figure out what he might

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be the next Edleman? I knowthat's not what he did well. He
played so much to see I thinkduring the preseason. Yeah, he played
like both I believe, Yeah,But I mean he looked electric with the
ball in his hand. I mean, I don't know, man, I
was impressed. I hand up.Didn't see a whole lot, but I

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don't expect a whole lot. Helooked good. He was running the offense
like he actually looked pretty good.But as a runner, he was impressive.
Well that's what he does I know, So maybe he'll count in here.
I know, but let's come onsaying, I'm not like Alway's gonna
start from mac Jones. But I'malso saying that there's Juju Smith Schuster and
then there's no wide receivers, somaybe they try and use I'm in a

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little gadgety tastes Taste Taste corderal.I'll know that that that's my one like
little hYP trade that I'm on rightnow for pre season, I hope,
because Millie Countingham was super fun towatch, was super fun. Just not
a great quarterback great quarterback, no, but yeah, that was That's my
my one little like, Oh,I've got my eye on this guy.
But but yeah, so we're gonnatalk more. We're just kind of redraft.

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We've talked about it a little bitas we've gone through these division debates,
but we're gonna really dive into ithere and JB has some talking points,
so he's really gonna lead to someof this conversation. So I'm so
let's just start at the very topof the draft. We'll get to the
top of the draft and worked ourway down just right off the bat,
and this will lead into the nextquestion, where do you think is the
best spot to pick this year?So it depends obviously the cop out.

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Everything we say is probably hypothetical twelveteam like PPR. So when I look
at my this board last week,and obviously to you know, it's a
small sample size. But if I'mlooking at the first like the first three
pickers, right, So the firstthree spots went chrisym mcaffy went first of

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all in this league, by theway, Yeah, uh, let's just
start with that. Just take JustinJefferson one on one. Let's not be
stupid if I told you Justin Jeffersonwent third. Come on, this is
actually like this is my highest buyingleague. But the top three remained the
same Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase,Chausier McCaffrey. And then you probably have

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Austin Ekeler at four. And thenit gets if he be Jean winning five
in this league by the way,it's high, but yeah, I would
take Bijean is early is like sevenor eight, so I guess it's not
too crazy. So point being is, so the first three picks, I
told you, whatever order, theywent fine. On the second round is

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where I'm starting to pay more attention, right, and so on the backslide.
There was a big run on runningbacks at the on the back half
of the second round, but thelast one to three four picks in the
second round went Josh Jacobs, JonathanTaylor, Ramondre Stevenson, Bruese Hall.
So like Jonathan Taylor wants tough,but like, yeah, I'm not gonna

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get him that late. Now thatit seems as the hold out, I'm
gonna go train somebody somewhere else withsomebody else that seems to be over now,
yes it does. But so Ilook at those guys and go,
okay, that's good. Oh someof this gets But I look at that
and go, okay, great,this is this is a good place to
start. And then even coming back, you're looking at guys like Joe Mixing

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a ten, Josh Allen in thein the third round. As opposed if
you look at the back end ofkind of where I picked at nine,
I took Ceedee Lamb and then I'mon round in the second round, and
then by the time I got tothe third round, I got kind of
stuck. The running backs really driedup. I'm a little bit surprised at

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that point that all the running backstride up. But that's we play.
Yeah, I mean, and everyevery draft is different. I'm just looking
at this one and specifically, butit was the best when by the point
that I drafted, the best runningback left was up. I think he
told me Gibbs if I remember JamirGibbs was the best best running back left.

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Aaron Jones was gone until Tony Pollardwas gone. I've done mocks and
some live drafts where you get AaronJones in the fourth round. I think
that's silly. Yeah, well AaronJones winning the third here and yeah,
so so I took Mark Andrews andthen I doubled down Lamar Jackson on the
way back, which I usually don'tlike taking a quarterback that early, but

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that was a cool little stack.That thought was cute point being if when
I look at my first four picksof Cee Lama Monro, I love those
two, and then Mark Andrews andLamar Jackson and the wide receivers that were
around. That Lamar Jackson pick waslike te Higgins, Keenan Allen d came
at calf So it's like I wasn'tgonna pickup thir or two before you've been
had running back. But I thinkmy answer is I think the front is

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the move here because I'm looking atlike the first three picks of the number
one overall pick went Christian McCaffrey,Bruce Hall, Joe Mixon, Jalen Waddle
like jal Waddle, yeah, ohsorry, he had a weird His first
three were good. There are tradesin this league, and I really don't
want to get into it, butthe first three, the first three really

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feel good. For the second overallpick, it went Jamar Chase, Ramandre
Etten Hawkinson rather would have had secondwide receiver, but I get it.
Yeah, it's still a really goodvalue across the board, Justin Jefferson,
John and Taylor, Josh Allen,Mary Cooper. I honestly think this is
the every year in recent memory Ihave drafting, I've never been super interested

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in getting the one on one.This is the only like the closest that
year in recent memory for me whereI'm thrive. I'm like, phone me
the mouth for the one on one. Yes. And that's that was my
long winded answer of like you wantto be in the front, Like if
there's just so much if you gojustin Jefferson, or even if you go

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with a Jamaar Chase, or yougo with maybe even a Cooper Cup.
At that point that you go tothe second half, you have your option
of basically whatever running back you want, like Josh Jacobson' back, or you
can get into another low end widersever one DK Metcalf and Chris A Lava,
or you can go for the highnumber twos with Jalen Waddle or DeVante

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Smith. And then third round youbasically just do the opposite of what you
did in the first round. Youcan either still get a running back one
you feel good about, or youcan still get someone like a T.
Higgins or something like that. Yeah, so I think the top is the
best. So where I want togo with that. We're both on the

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we're both on the team. Youshould probably be taking widescier in the first
round, right, Yes, ifyou're in a position to do so.
If you're like seven, you're probablyscrewed because Tyreek Hill has probably gone.
So now you're in the bijon saQuan Taylor, Travis Kelsey. I kind
of assumed Kelsey would go in thetop six somewhere. Yeah, so,

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but anyway, how many wide receiversare you taking before we get to the
Christian McCaffrey's and the Ecklers of theworld. We're saying Taylor for sure?
Are we saying Jamar Chase with possiblymissing some time with Joe Burrow? Wait,
we're saying Taylor for sure. No, I'm just saying between Eckler and

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Christian McCaffrey in this more. Oh, you said you said we're saying Taylor
for sure. I think you meantjustin Jefferson for sure. I might have
said Taylor part of me. Iwas a mental slip. That's okay,
Jefferson on Yeah, Jefferson goes one, Chase probably, Well, I still
think you take Chase when you lookat the numbers between Jefferson and Chase,

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like they're just so much better thaneverybody else, and it just doesn't matter.
You can double team, triple teamand it doesn't doesn't matter. Does
losing mix or mixing I'm batching allover today. Does losing Burrow hinder it
a little bit? No, becauseit doesn't seem like it's gonna be that
long. It's weird that like,if you've seen these things where Jamaar's telling

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him to sit out like he's findslike I want you to sit till like
week five. I don't think that'sgonna happen. I think that he couldn't
miss time. I would be,I would be, I would honestly be
shocked if Burrow misses more than likeone game this year, like at the
begin at the beginning, yeah,at the beginning of the season from this
current injury. I don't think that. I don't think you can. Yes,

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sorry, yeah, Jamar chasing justinI think really the only two that
I've guarantee be ahead of Christian McCaffrey. I think no, Cooper Cup.
He's all alone this year, literallyall alone. The team's gonna be bad
and playing from behind a lot,and AM scared of Cooper Cup. Scared.

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I just he's coming off the injury, like we haven't seen him playing.
How long he's getting up there,Like I'm maybe it's like recency biased,
but like I can't remember Cooper Cupplaying at this point. I know
obviously I can't, but like Ihaven't, I just don't have any good
memory of him playing. And notonly is it his injury, it's also

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Stafford, what happens, like,well, what if these guys just come
on, they're made a glass andthey're just in their shelves of their former
selves. I am definitely taking andnow. And to be fair, you
go, okay, well, whenyou draft McCaffrey, you pretty much pencil
in that you're missing at least threeto four games every year. Yes,
but I would rather take those thanlike the potential of Cooper Cup being like,

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I think so, I'm gonna askyou who yours is, but in
the first round, I think thebiggest risk is Cooper Cup. Who of
the first round play, who doyou think is the biggest has the highest
chance to just completely totally bust injuryaside, okay, injury side than the

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answer if we're saying injury aside,kissy, McCaffrey was the obvious one,
right, injury aside, Like,I would probably say the obvious one for
me, and I pause so longas I don't want to say it,
it's DeVante Adams for me, becausein my head things shouldn't change that much.

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Because you go from a lateral movefrom Jimmy G to from Derek Hard
Jimmy G. I should say whathappens if again, what's worse than that?
What happened to Foray, what happenedto for happened Aid O'Connell at the
spot at points? Yeah, AndI feel like I'm saying you shouldn't worry
about with Cooper Cup. Why wouldyou worry about it with DeVante Adams if

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that's the case and you got stetsin Bennett thrown too Cooper Cup. Yeah,
but yeah, I think if you'remaking me answer, I think it's
DeVante Adams. Yeah. And forthe record, and you know this already
and you yelled at me for it. But Devanta Adams didn't go until the
second round. He was picked likenineteen or twenty. That's still I picked
Seedee Lamb and a Monra before.I let you're still silly for that?

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Well, now disagree, I mean, silly guy, you're silly boy.
He went, Yeah, he wentbehind Amanra Aj Brown, Ceedee Lamb,
Digs Hill. What did Cup gohere? Cup fell too? The one
person I want to talk about alittle bit, Tyreek Hill. I feel

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is kind of it's hard to sayhe's undervalue because he's the seven or eighth
best player, But I've had somethoughts between like Tyreek Hiller, Austin Ekeler.
Yeah, leading up in this draft, I don't think that's terribly far
off either. I really like Tyreekhill Man. Just if two A stays
health the whole year, Tyre cantruly go for like two thousand yards.

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Oh yeah without it, doubt there'sThat's what I'm saying. I don't think
this is a bad I don't thinkthat's a bad thing at all. All
right, let's get let's get outof the first round. I think we've
spending enough time at the first round. So after the first round, you're
we're going probably wide receiver probably.What is the strategy? How are you
approaching the next couple of rounds areso in my opinion, I'm trying to
go wide receiver first, and thenmaybe wide receiver stef I'm not leaving the

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third round without a running back unlessyou're in the back end. If you're
in the back end, just takea Jacobs, take a Henry, just
take something Nick Chubb. Take somebodyin that back end of the set or
the front half of the second round, if you're towards the back, right.
Yeah, And that's what I shouldhave done. Looking back at it
I should have taken instead of takinga Monra, although I still like that
that's still like this year, right, But like I could have taken a

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Josh Jacobs, a Jonathan Taylor,Ramandre Breeze Naj. I think you could
have stopped at Chubb. Well,I'm looking at that because this is a
Pittsburgh Steeler and this is the Homemurstof all Homer's, not Charlie even worse
than Charlie. Took Naj before Jacob'sTaylor or mondre Brees Mixon. Like you
gotta love the Homer leagues, gottalove it. But but yeah, I

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probably if I would do this draftover again, I would probably take take
like a Josh Jacobs or john ThanTaylor there instead because looking at the guys
I could have gotten in the inthe back half. You know, we're
talking DeVonta Smith, Calvin Ridley,Chris A. LaVey, like Keenan Allen
T. Higgins, like these kindof guys that were there in that third
round that I would have been happyto be my second receiver, but then

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I would have been punting on tightend. So yes, I think if
you get if you get a widereceiver, if you're in the back half,
I think you should probably try andgo running back, or sorry,
try and to go a wide receiverand then running back. Yeah, getting
like a digs into Jacobs or digsin a chubb or something like that.
That's way too good to pass up. Yes, yeah, I agree.
So here's what I'm saying. I'mprobably not leaving the second round without a

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running back. Barring something catastrophic inthe second round, then I might just
be double tapping wide receiver. Basically, what I'm saying is I can't imagine
getting out of round four without mehaving one running back in three receivers.
I disagree with that really, justbecause I try not to keep to a

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strategy so rigid like that. Well, there's obvious there's obvious values. You
see Aaron Jones slipping somewhere, it'slike, okay, I have to take
Aaron Jones right, And that's kindwhere I like, I look at it,
and I went, okay, Icaught myself in trouble. And when
I went okay, when I wenttwo wide receivers tight end, and then

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I came back around or well forthem in two two wide receivers, and
I go, oh, crap,I've got no running backs that I feel
like I'm gonna reach. I'm gonnatake a running back. And if you
ever get to that point and yousay I feel like I'm gonna reach to
take this this player because I don'tI haven't drafted one yet, or I
don't have any yet, unless he'sgonna be like your fifth player on the
bench, Like as long as hefits into a starting lineup spot, even

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if he's a flex drafted, goget that third wide receiver in four rounds
like that is okay, Just don'tbecause when you reach is when you cause
trouble, because that's panicking, especiallywhen it comes to running backs. We're
gonna see these guys are injuries popup, random guys start started doing well,
like I took Bigsby and what isthat three, six, ten,

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eleven, twelfth round tank could endup starting for me more than AJ Dillon,
who I took four four rounds aheadof him, like possibly. But
the main reason I want to starttalking about this is I think there's this
nice magic sweet spot of the sixthround where you can just get a really
good running back too that you feelgood about every week. Because as soon

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as we get into the sixth round, we're looking at a DeAndre Swift in
Philly. You're looking at a AlexanderMadison, which isn't great, but you're
it's a starting running back that willbe starting every week. Cam Akers James
Connor, like Damian peeris like,if you get those guys as you're running
back to, you're super duper superhappy. Then there's people like Cam Akers

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who you can kind of argue thesame deal. But I think it is
a great value. Is James Connerin this round? So I just said
James Conner, and I'm so Iwant to talk about both those guys.
You just said one is km Akers, two is James Connor, because I
think I think you're right. Ithink James Connor is an incredible value.
Just two years ago he was likea top ten running back. Yeah,

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and then Marky's Brown is literally onthe podium. They're asking what it's gonna
be like playing in a run firstoffense and he's joking, you guys,
remember I played for the Ravens,right yep. I'm like, oh,
we're going back to James Connor timenow. Yes, I'm super excited.
I think James Connor is like agood Is this steal anywhere at any point
in the league? Yeah, Ithink that's great. Now my question mark

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with you is cam Akers. Iso I was staring my choice is where
basically cam Akers and DeAndre Swift andI was like James Connor was in there
two and I let him go.Looking back, maybe I would have rather
U should have taken James Connor.But what do you feel comfortable taking cam

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Akers as my running back too?If I already got like three wide receivers?
Yes, as you're not gonna loveit, but I'd probably even consider
maybe even a Pacheco before it.Right, So that's the question is okay,
so who goes? Who goes?When? Right? Like, obviously
he might be the bottom of thebarrel of it of that Pacheco rashad Why

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James Connor, cam Ake or Isay cam Akers? Excuse me, Janders
left Madison probably him and Madison ormy last two d those yeah, those
Akers. Just so, I'm lookingat his stats on sleeper and like it's
he's never his highest finish is runningback thirty five. People are like he
just he can't put it all together. For whatever reason. He's just starting

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running back. So yeah, basicallyfor all that being said, yeah,
Acres in Madison, they're in thissweet spot of a running back round.
But the last two running backs I'mtrying to get. Yes, they talk
about emergencies, I'm my strategy isalways I'm never gonna end up with those
guys because I'm gonna look at themand go, man, I would rather

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have Mike Williams or Christian Kirk ortough like like guys that I know are
going to be really good wide receiverthrees maybe even wide receiver twos as wide
receiver threes, instead of somebody thatlike, that's a nice it's a nice
round. The sixth rounds it islittle. There's a lot of value in
that round. I mean, there'sjust there's so much value in those six
to six to eight. I thinkit really between those two you said and

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Christian Kirk, those are the toptwo prime number two wide receiver twos for
you. Yeah, I mean it'swide sever two's on teams and wide receivers
threes yes on your team, Andyeah, I see no reason not Christian
Kirk could have Colvin Ridley place faceplops, yes exactly. But yeah,
like I said, my if ifI give one piece of advice, if

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I had one sentence to give somebody'slike first time fantasy player, it would
be don't reach. But if youfeel like, oh crap, I don't
have enough. I don't have arunning back yet. Oh crap, I
only have one running back and I'vegot four wide receivers. I need a
running back. That's okay, takelike, take the best player available.
Yes, that is what wins youleagues. Reaching and leaving value on the

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table is how you lose. Nowthat being said, if it's close,
right, if you say, hey, do you want you know, do
you want Damian Pierce or like aMarii Cooper, like guys that are pretty
close to each other and value,it's like, okay if you need the
tiebreak or fine, but like,don't grab your running back twenty on your

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rankings, if your wide receiver thirteenis still available. Yes, that is
good advice. Yes, solid advice. Don't panic. Just keep calm,
baby, you can just keep calm. Yeah. So basically what we're saying
is get a wider staver, earlyhammer the running the wide receivers, and
also you get some good value inthe middle. Round six five to six

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round for running back. Yeah,but let's talk about the people who you
might go for this in these kindof rounds. Are we this year?
Are we punting on QB this year? Or are we going for the gold
quarterbacks this year? Are we spendingsecond, third, fourth round picks on
Lamars and Mahomes's and not Joe Burrows, or are we waiting for your favorite

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guy Aaron Rodgers in the double digitround. He went so late in this
draft it made me cry. He'dprobably go closer to eight nine. But
yeah, still I think that Ithink it depends. Like I said,
I I went, I took toLamar earlier. That's out of character for
me. I would smash Lamar inthe fourth round. If I got Lamar
in the fourth, I would Yeah, I would draft it so fast,

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my outbreak my phone. I almostthought about taking Jalen and the third round
and then he went. Then hewent before me, and I was like,
okay, I'll take I'll just takea tight end because you know me,
I love a good tight end inmore ways than one. But Travis
Kelsey was gone obviously, and Ithink Hockinston had just gone, or maybe
hawks m gone yet. But Iwas like, I just give me Mark

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Andrews, Like that's just it's basicallyonly the wide receiver. It's the guy
I can Trusts over Mark Andrews.Actually I lied, wait, I gotta
go left. I go like I'mlooking at the boards on like six,
Oh yeah, Snake, Snake,yeah, Hogs and Nick before No,
he didn't not, I lied evenafter. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
This is a cluster fuck. Butyeah, it's all about the value,
man, Like it's just what yousaid again, like, oh yeah,

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Lamar and the fourth was hard topass up. Now if Lamar was gone,
and like the next guy off theboard was Justin Fields, like as
the next best guy, I'm like, no, I don't want Justin Fields
in the fourth round, like giveme whatever else. But there's just we
talked about everything. There's just somuch value. But with these later guys,
you know, Aaron Rodgers going later, even even Juno Smith, like

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as scared as I am of Juno's, like, oh, is it a
one hit wonder if he has oneof the best wide receiver corps in the
league, Like yeah, it's disgusting, Like yes, I mean if if
if Kirk Cousins had that wide receiverroom. I would I would hammer him
in like the fifth round. Likeit just depends, it just absolutely absolutely

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depends on the on the value ofwhere they sit. So quarterbacks, for
me, I'm not going second roundon the Mahomes and the Allans. I
can't do that. If they followthe third I'd be pretty hard pressed not
to. Yes, But I thinkthe value for me at quarterback is that
round four to five area when youmight be able to afford over if we're
doing the one running back before beforethat, where I can how do I

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want to say this, I canbe advised to take a better quarterback over
a wide receiver. Three. Yeah, say like a Lamar Jackson the fourth.
I think the fifth round is reallygood because you have your options of
Herbert or. I think Fields isprobably more deserving than that fifth round,
and I think you could probably gethim in the fifth round in a couple
of leagues. Oh yeah, forsure, I'd be happy there with Fields

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Or. I don't hate the ideaof just totally punning on quarterbacks. This
year, there's been a lot ofmocks that I did where I eighth to
ninth round double tap quarterback with anAaron Rodgers and Daniel Jones. Yeah,
one of these guys has to pineout. So let me ask you this,
when you draft a guy like JalenHurts, Lamar Jackson justin Fields.

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Yes, these run first quarterbacks thathave very very high upside. Does that
alter your strategy? Was like takingMaybe I should take a second quarterback a
little bit earlier, just in casethey get dinged up. Like no,
I'm usually I'm like whatever, I'llfind something. There will be a quarterback
calling to me at some point,but I'm not rushing for it because I
had I had almost gone to thepoint where I was like, I took

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them and like Aaron Rodgers still sittingthere. Maybe I should grab like an
Aaron Rodgers, or like even likea Geno Smith. But I look at
Yeah, I'd probably have to havefour running backs and four wide receivers before
I think about a second quarterback.If I wouldn't quarterback that high. Yeah,
I actually waited. I took KennyPickett in the second to last round.
Hey, Yeah, there was aHomer League and Kenny Pickett didn't go

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to the second last round. Yeah, I can't believe it. Yep,
the Steelers. Do you went aheadof them too. That's so funny.
Yeah, I actually got that.Take the Steelers day. I did.
I'm I'm a big, big Homerbrain. It's like I'm going to root
for every interception, every sack Steelersd baby, let's go. But but
yeah, I think that it's thevalue of quarterbacks. What I how I

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like to look at it. Igo, Okay, who was the last
quarterback that I would be comfortable startingand feeling really really good about it?
And it's probably Trevor Lawrence. Right, that's probably one. Once you past
Trevor lawrence're gett like DeShawn Watson Dakkirk Cousins. I'd rather have Cousins at
his value then Lawrence. No,then you're having to pay the same price

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for DeShawn as you are Trevor Lawrence. Rather way like two rounds and get
kirk Cousins for Deshaun Watson. Iagree for Trevor Lawrence, now not for
I'd probably be on team argue.Maybe you reach for Lawrence in the fifth
round since he is the last totalquarterback you feel good with that you're in
the back end of the fifth Justtake Lawrence. Yeah, if you're especially

(28:30):
if you're in one of those positionsif you're at the start of the ends
where you're on your you've already hityour back swing, and you go,
okay, I've you gotta think aboutthis way. You've got twenty picks until
you come back like you're going you'regoing from ten to one and then back
down like there's a good chance you'regonna lose a quarterback there and then you're
gonna be stuck somebody you don't want. So I always look at it from

(28:51):
that point of view where I go, Okay, if I'm gonna swing and
if there's a something that I wouldneed to really make sure I solidify,
I'm gonna reach maybe a little bitthere and take a quarterback or take a
tight end that that's you know,still there because they're just there's so many
less of them. Yeah, there'sa pretty hard dead zone from like seven
to ten. And there's a coupleof people who like like Aaron Rodgers,

(29:12):
like Daniel Jones, like Kirk Cousinsis probably ten at this point, but
he's teeterings. I'll put him inthis, Yeah, Kirk Cousins that I
feel good about getting later. Yeah, I agree. It's even guys,
like, I'm surprised how a littletwo was going from being totally honest,
you know, it's the two isanother good one to it. I mean,

(29:33):
it's just injuries. Well, yeah, it's injuries. But Tua is
the reverse of like Patrick Mahomes.And what I mean by that is two
as wide receivers, you have twoof them going within the first twenty four
picks, and then the quarterback isnot going to like the last four rounds,
whereas Patrick Mahomes is going in thefirst two rounds. You're not getting

(29:56):
a wide receiver from from Kansas Cityfor five or six. I'd argue you
shouldn't draft any of the receivers rightin city. But like, so that's
that's my point is. But it'sjust except for the one that's placed tight
end. It's polar Yeah, butit's polarizing. But if you my my
dumb brain goes, well, ifyou think that that Tyreek and Jalen Waddle

(30:17):
are worth top twenty four picks,picks to be picked in the first two
rounds, why is two of fallingso hard? And of course the ANSWER's
injuries. But then if two A'sinjury is impacting his draft stock. Shouldn't
it also impact Tyreeks and shouldn't alsoimpact Jalen modeles Mike White. Now they
find Mike Why, let's move onwhy. But Yeah, basically, if

(30:40):
we get to round five and I'mbasically everybody above Lawrence has been taken,
I will just punt on quarterback thisyear, Yes, I agree, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, like eight tonine, ninth round, I'm going
for the quarterback. If I'll takea tight end before I take a quarterback
at that point, if I missLawrence, I'm not gonna hit the panic
button, say crap, give meDack, crap, give me Kirk.

(31:00):
So I think that's a good transition. You were talking about the tight ends.
What's the line of tight end thisyear? Before you're like, before
it gets bross Darren Waller, DarrenWaller, Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews Hawkinson,
Kittle Waller, I'm leaving Pits out. I'm out on Pits. Yeah,
I'm probably out on his adp Youstuff to use a top six round

(31:23):
pick on Pits. Yeah, I'mnot. I'm not knocking that. I
hate I'd argue almost fry muth.That might be the homer in me a
little bit honestly a little bit daughter. Maybe Goddard. There's Goddard's gutter is
close to I'd probably take Goddard overPitts at this point. Two things about
Muth that scare me Dwayne Washington andAlan Robinson, who I might you might

(31:45):
have helped if prime with Kase sayingthose two names. I think Alan Robinson
is going to take a lot ofred zone looks away from him. That's
he's the bigger one. And thenobviously Dwayne Watching is not gonna taken at
a time, but it's another guythat's another the red zone option. Whereas
like we talked about Deante scoring zerotouchdowns last year, right, and then
it was just Georgie on deep ballsand then Muth. And as a red

(32:07):
zone guy, I think I'm worriedthat Alan Robinson's going to start taking into
some of those and really impacting becausethat's where Muth makes his makes his fancy
points, his touchdowns, as mosttight ends do. Yes, but when
it comes to Kyle Pits, Ihate being this guy. I make fun
of these guys that do this andlike there's you know, the guy's running

(32:28):
a route against air or a oneon one and like you see all Jimmy
or Kibbs burn this linebacker that wasflat footed, oh running back one.
But cow Pits has looked kind ofslow in some of these, like at
the top of his brakes, hehe looks like he doesn't totally trust that
leg, like because it was ita neat was an acl that he had,

(32:49):
it was an ankle, I can'tremember. I think it was just
because he didn't miss a whole lotof time, but it just felt like
he didn't he didn't trust it,and I got I saw some much like
this is not the cow Pits thatI watched it on film. It comes
Draft time. But have you watchedWinning Time? No? I haven't.
So basically, when Winning Time,if anyone doesn't know, it's about the
Lakers organization, basically the Magic Kareemera of the Lakers, what became the

(33:15):
showtime Lakers right now, the newstepisode basically goes around Magic's injury that happens
and he's recovering from the injury,and the slogan basically the whole time is
let magic. It's like, yougotta be magic. You just have to
stop thinking you gotta be magic.Yeah, Kyle Pits gotta be magic.

(33:35):
Yeah, he's gotta be cow Pitsright now. He doesn't play like he's
Kyle Pits, like the cow Pitswe saw at Florida and the one who
got a thousand yards of his rookieseason, right, I agree, I
agree totally. And then also there'sthis guy throw him the ball called Desmond
Ritter, who we think is Yeah, I think that's more. I think
that was a fun analogy, butI think that's more of I'm basically out
on the entire Falcons offense that isn'tnamed Bijan Robinson. It's both for me,

(34:00):
but yeah, I mean I DesmondRids actually argue it's sixty five thirty
five Desmond Ritter and the rest ofthat offense. Yeah, I'd go sixty
forty. But yes, the yeah, the point stands, desn't Ritter is
bad and especially with like honestly,I love Darren Waller. I love him
as his ADP. I think thatwhere he's going right now is great.

(34:20):
I think that if you know allthese it's always the times problem, but
him, especially if he can stayhealthy, he's going to be the number
one option on that offense because therest of them are just slot guys.
They're just there. He's the onebig body guy other than Isaiah Hodgins.
So I love Waller was value rightnow. I didn't realize Waller was valued
the same area as Pits. Yeah, I take Waller. Yeah, I

(34:40):
see, I see Waller here youbetween the fifty six and sixty like it's
Yeah, I have pulled the draftand mocks. I have pulled a draft
Lawrence in the fifth round and thenstack the ingram later. I have pulled
that move a couple of times.Yeah, I don't hate that either.
He's going crazy though not crazy,though it's going it's him and Muth and

(35:02):
I guess a joeku in this area. He seems like he's pretty much pretty
lowered than than those guys. No, pretty suposed Smuth. You're right,
you're right. I have an eightiethhere on sleeper. Yeah. Okay,
So we talked about the tight end. We basically talked the entire starting lineup.
Yeah, let's get in the nittygritty. What is the best player

(35:24):
that you can take with a doubledigit value? Double digit it's like round,
let me look at some of theseguys for me. And we talked
a little bit about Aaron Rodgers earlier. I'm sticking with what Aaron Rodgers no
getting Alan Lazard Granted, with anew team, he's playing the second wide

(35:45):
receiver on that team. Alazard iswide receiver two on that team. It's
not Corey Davis, it's not Idon't know who else is on that team
at this point because they don't havemems anymore. Oh yeah, I forgot
about me, Cole. But stillI still think Lazard is the true number
two on that over me Cool.He just me cool, kind of fits
into that MBS role at this point. So I like Lazard for a tenth

(36:09):
eleventh round value. I think that'scrazy good. I like that. I
like Courton Sutton. I don't knowif he's exactly quite there, but I
think he's pretty close to to that. ADP. Let me see where recon
find Sutton's getting close to it mytwenties the makes it ten yeah, yeah,

(36:30):
ten yeah. I think a guylike that I think is really just
is right there. You know,Jamison Williams is my guy, but Neverson
six games for it. Juju maybeI think, actually maybe I take the
back. I think Juju Juju isthe guy here. Juju gotta go a
little bit higher for but it's gettingthere. He's he's a hundred overall.
So even if I go under thoseguys, oh you know who it is,

(36:50):
and it's I drafted him and Iit's the guy that I've historically kind
of hated on, But it's Adamthieln. He is the cheapest wider C
one you can buy. Yes,I don't think there is one cheaper.
Yeah, Nico Collins technically but okay, fair but same same song, different
drum. But Adam Feelin is theonly really trustworthy player right now in that

(37:15):
wide receiver room. Yes, he'sold. We're talking redraft, we're not
talking dynasty. Where you getting himin ten plus round is is robbery.
I think he still had to geta decent year last year. You know,
he had his injuries. I thinkhe didn't play the full season.
But he he's gonna be mister reliablefor for Bryce Young as he starts to

(37:39):
develop. And I'm all about it. Yeah, he's still finished it wide
receiver twenty nine and PPR last year. Like you're thinking about that, you're
getting a top thirty wide receiver inthe tenth round Like that is as that
calling nine one one because I'm stealall right, So let's move on to

(38:00):
the superlatives. I got a coupleof superlatives here for you. These are
gonna be off the dome. Ididn't bring these up to you beforehand.
You didn't. But that's okay,don't I think on my feet even though
I'm sitting the biggest plant flag.Who are you waving the flag for this
year? Waving for yes, Mit's gotta be woof honestly, honestly,

(38:31):
Garrett Wilson. Oh, that's interestingbecause I hit. I remember sending you
a text a month ago saying,would you feel good about Garrett Wilson being
your wide receiver one? And youtold me no, so you change.
That's because I wasn't really like lookingat like at that point, I hadn't
been totally dialed in it. It'sto like where people are going here.
But I don't know, maybe it'sthe hard knocks love. But him and

(38:57):
a Monra those are like two guysthat I'm that I'm flag planning out.
I think a Monroe can be aidcan be the wide receiver one this year,
and I think Garrett Wilson can bea top top seven, top five
even wide receiver. This year,people are don't look under the table and
just giving my dogsmen are there,behave yourself. I people are forgetting that.

(39:19):
The difference between Zach Wilson and whoeverthe hell they were trotting out last
year compared to Aaron freaking Rogers.I don't care how old he is,
I don't care how many musicals theman goes to. He is going to
make Garrett Wilson a unbelievable value.The Garret Wilson finished wide receiver twenty one

(39:40):
last year was Zach Wilson. Whereis he gonna finish? There's not a
number high enough for him to change. To go from Zach Wilson Aaron Rodgers.
He's gonna be wide receiver infinity.Like buckle up because you're going to
the moon when you take Garrett Wilsonit is. I'm all in on it.
I love every second of it.I didn't I hate it when Gary

(40:00):
Wilson came out of Ohio state thatyou didn't get to wear five. I
was super bummed about it. Nowit's destiny. It was destiny the whole
time. It's gonna happen. HeGarrett Wilson even though everyone is wearing eight,
which is still weird. But Ithink I've come to like it a
little bit. Yeah, yeah,it's not not terrible, but I mean,

(40:21):
you look at Gary Wilson last year. All these numbers are gonna go
up. Eighty three receptions, maybethe targets skunk up one hundred forty seven
targets is a lot of targets.That is a lot of targets. Eighty
three receptions, that's going up yards, that's going up four touchdowns easy,
double its seven double seven minimum doubleit. I love it. I love

(40:44):
it. I'm all about I'm allgassed up on Gary Wilson, all gassed.
I'm so happy that you're saying it'sI love when we agree on things.
That's the best. Who are you? Who's what about you? Who's
the flag? So I have acouple here, but they all go under
one roof. I don't know howthey're going to do record wise or an
actual football wise. I think anythingthat touches the Chicago Bears this year is

(41:07):
going to turn to gold for fantasy. I'm talking fields, I'm talking Dj
Moore, I'm even talking Khalil Herbert. At this point, you can get
Khalil Herbert in the ninth to tenthround, which I think is silly.
That's a starting running back that mightstart the entire season if he stays healthy.
He's a great value. That's aninsane value. I think DJ Moore

(41:29):
is going to break. I'm notcalling him a Stefawn Diggs level upgrade.
That really get that really pushed JoshAllen above his limits. And when he
got Stefawn Diggs, I'm saying it'sgonna be similar. It's I'm not gonna
say it's gonna be the exact samewhere Field is going to turn into a
top five quarterback with his arm likewith the arm included, I think Fields

(41:52):
probably ends top probably is a topfive round as a quarterback because I think
he's going to have better opportunities nowwith DJ Moore and back to Darnell Mooney
being back in the as the numbertwo guy. Yeah, and actually I
think they're going to have a legitimaterun game. The only thing that scares
me is that line. That's literallythe only thing that's scared me. Col

(42:14):
Commets, whatever, col Comet willbe cold Commets. You haven't said a
damn thing about Chase Claypool yet,But that's intentional. I'd rather talk about
Vilas Jones at this point, grossinsults, insults. Yeah, I agree,
but like you said, when itcomes to that offensive line, at
least he's mobile. I mean,you're not worried. It's not like,

(42:34):
oh crap, how are you gonnaget him out of pocket? Like he
can, He'll make, his playswill extend. Yeah, I'm I'm just
very worried about seeing the legit becauseI really don't. I feel like we
haven't really seen the arm talent develop. I'm sorry, not the arm talent,
but the quarterback play developed, thepassing developed yet, the fields and
you're right, he had nobody tothrow two last year. But that is
my one fear is just that wethought we talked about all time, these

(42:57):
Ohio state quarterbacks that struggled to convertthe NFL. Obviously, his running game
converted very well, but that wasthe one that's like, is this gonna
come over? Is it gonna carryover? And this is the make or
break year for him? I think, Okay, let's flop to a negative.
Okay, this is Jenner, butwe gotta talk about it. Just

(43:19):
biggest bust, who do we thinkis just going to be you're either staying
away from your campaigning for openly notthis person, openly not this person.
Originally it was Tony Pollard, notoriginally Tony Pollard, but like Tony Pollard
scared me at his ADP. Butnow that somebody's running backs have been sign

(43:39):
which we really didn't even talk aboutmuch, we probably should have talked about
that. But this is a reallyhard because like when I look at the
wide receivers right and I talked aboutCooper Cup already, I want to double
down on that. I'm none ofthese guys are super duper scary running backs.

(44:01):
Maybe there's more, I think,honestly, Again, sucks to say
this because I've we've talked about howmuch I love him. Kenneth Walker scares
me right now. I don't feelgreat about Kenneth Walker being like my running
back one. Well sorry, wellI guess he's not really gonna running like
one, but like as my runningback too, And you have to draft

(44:22):
him up pretty high end running backtoo, and that scares me. If
he was like if he was goingaround or two later, I would very
much be jumping at it. Butwhen you drafted Charbonnet so early and his
injuries have already started hitting him inearly in the in the off season.
I just think the ADP is toorich for my blood. If they had

(44:45):
not drafted running back in the secondround or third round, whenever it was,
I'd be pushing for him to goin the first two rounds. But
that is terrifying to me that theydid that, because that means something,
something's up, something something right.I would also double down and say cam
Akers, I'm staying away from andI'm not touching Alexander Madison because I still
believe that you're gonna draft Madison andthen they're gonna immediately sign somebody behind him,

(45:09):
and then his viye is just gonnathrough the floor. I'll see you're
sad talking about bad amount a playeryou like and raise you. I think
having to take Deebo Samuel the toplike three round pick is assid and nine
for a guy that's never been morethan a wide receiver to like, has
been a top twenty four receiver exceptfor the one year he was a wide

(45:30):
receiver too because he got so muchrunning opportunity. Now he's only that number
only has been going down since theygot Christian McCaffrey. You can't spend a
round three pick on Deebo Samuel.Cannot do it. And I hate to
say that because I love Deebo Samuel. I think he's a great receiver.

(45:51):
Yeah, but that's because he broughtyou that element that not a whole lot
of teams did. But now thatyou have Christian McCaffrey, you don't need
him to do that as much.Right, And they've said that they've they're
going away from that as it is. So, so if Da Samuel's just
playing receiver, there's a lot receivea lot of better receivers behind them.
I'd rather take Keenan Allen, rathertake DeAndre Hopkins, or rather take Terry

(46:14):
McLaurin, rather even taken maybe evenI'm Mary Cooper. Yeah, I've got
I don't know if you've had thisone or not, but I have one
that I just thought of. Okay, go on, I want you to
give me the one rookie not namedGibbs or Bijan that you are excited to
draft. Okay, So that takesout away basically every first round receiver except

(46:37):
maybe one. Maybe I'll come backto it, Okay, I would say,
well, no, it doesn't takeaway every first round receiver. I'm
saying, well, I'm not excitedfor any of them going into this year.
Oh, okay, except maybe one, and maybe I'll just say that.
I'll say Jordan Addison. Jordan Addison'sthe one that I think contribute super

(46:59):
early, Like from week one.I hate playing rookies week one. I
probably would do it. If Idrafted Addison in a league, I probably
find somewhere else to go just forthe safety of it. I think Addison
is going to be a legitimate contributorby week four. Yeah, he has
the easiest path, I think.And I was impressed the little bit of

(47:22):
Week one preseason that I watched.I thought that he did really good and
he looked very very good. I'mstill sticking with JSN here. I know
he's third on there, but Ithink they are gonna have so many three
wide receiver sets. They don't havea tight end that they really feel good
about. But they always stay involvedthough. But JSN has looked so good

(47:43):
in the preseason. He looks bigger, faster, stronger than he has before.
He's making the same kind of toughcatches. He's still route running people
out of their jock straps, likeevery bit of it is as advertised.
So you know, Zay Flyers hada good camp and he's kind of in
line for another starting role because what'sgoing on with Rod Bateman. He's another

(48:04):
guy that I would maybe keep myeye on and would be a little excited
for in a in a later roundif you're just trying to take one more
flyer. But JSN is my answer. He the man is so good.
It's going to be hard to keephim off the field. It is going
to be just and I don't knowwhere he's going to be on the pecking
order week one, I bare minimum. I know, I know Addison's three.

(48:30):
Well you maybe over j Osborne surprise. But I'll tell you what it
feels like for me when it comesto JSN is it's like in Madden when
you take your when you take JustinJefferson and move him to your like to

(48:50):
your third on the depth chart,so that he always like lines up with
the crappier Yes, guy, that'swhat it feels like, the like the
lower defender. That's what it feelslike you're doing with JSN. I get
that makes sense, and that justseems like it's gonna be it's gonna be
a no a no doubter. Allright. So the last one I have
here and it's another generic one,but we gotta say biggest sleeper in general,

(49:15):
what's the best value of this entiredraft of the twenty twenty three season.
We talked about some of them already. I think Adam too, when
we have talked about when we haven'ttalked about both running backs, both running
backs. There's a lot of goodvalue running backs. I still like Juju
where he's going. I think that, Yeah, getting Juju like round nine,

(49:36):
Yeah, that's pretty silly, Ithink for you know, we saw
what Jacoby Myers did there, andthat's some similar role. I think Juju's
gonna do more than that. Ithink he should be closer like Darius Tony
because right in between those two there'slike Cooks, Quinton Johnson and Michael Thomas.
Yeah, Gabe Davis, I'm justlike, no, I'd rather have
Juju in front of there. Yeah, I agree, and then I'll a

(49:58):
second one for me would probably bem hmm. I don't know, man.
This is where it gets tough interms of a sleeper. You know
you mentioned Brandon Cook said that's nota bad idea. I'm still gonna say,
James Connor, I know we talkedabout it. That was my basically

(50:19):
number of un sleeper James Connor andthe sixth. I think that's a silly
value. And you'll be able tostart him every week. They brought him,
They brought in nobody, and therehasn't been a peep peep of them
bringing somebody and not a peep.He is the closest thing to a workload.
You're going to get this late JamesConnor. And here's the other one.

(50:40):
We have a lot of hype forJimmy or Gibbs. Right now,
let's not forget that Dave Montgomery waspaid above all running backs, all running
backs trying to get paid. DavidMontgomery was paid and he is going to
contribute in this offense. It's notgoing to be a sexy pick, but
for a round seven or eight,you might have an every week starter.

(51:01):
Ye, David Montgomery. You're veryvery right. If you're in leagues where
you have to start two flexes.That's a guy where you are playing every
week and feeling all right about Yeah, he's not. Jamal Williams are going
to get seventeen touchdowns. That wassilly. Can you push it up with
digits? Probably? Why not?Yeah? I think to this day get

(51:23):
in to my head, Dave Montgomeryis probably a better running back than Jamal
Williams. They're very, very close. And I also think we're gonna see
a lot more of David Montgomery andGibbs on the field together. Yes,
you're going to see that. It'sgonna be fun. Yeah, it's gonna
be a lot of especially I thinkweek when they're still missing on James and
Williams and early weeks, that's whereyou're gonna see a lot of it.

(51:45):
Yeah, And I think that's gonnabe that's gonna be very underrated for David
Montgomery's performances. Do you have anymore? I have one last one that
I just this is kind of goahead. I can think of another one.
Well, we don't, we don't. We only don't really need anymore.
But this is the last one thatI thought of. Here is as
in a superlative who who is yourYou've done a bunch of mocks. I've
done a couple of mocks and I'venot done one real pick who is your

(52:08):
favorite? Like last round flyer whohave you been getting? Who was just
like, Okay, it's a lastround. I've got everything, I need
my line, I'm spilled. Likethis guy's the first guy I probably gonna
get dropped. But like who ismy favorite? Who's your favorite? Like
last round? Kind of fella KennethGainwell. Oh, I think Kenneth Gainwell
is gonna there's a lot of thereis a lot of hype around Kenneth Gainwell

(52:30):
and they are going to use him. It is just a running back by
committee that we all assume that DeAndreHopkins or DeAndre Hopkins DeAndre Swift is going
to be the head of by midseason. Yeah, but I would argue
we are going to see Kenneth Walkerwith the ball more times than Rashad Penny
this year. Oh yeah, Iwould agree with that. I actually agree

(52:52):
with that, maybe not Carries,but overall touches of production in yards.
I was, are you Carries?Yeah? They do like to feed him
even though even though he really isn'tmuch of a Kenneth Kane is my late
round, Like I love Kenneth Kameewas my last running back. I think
that's great. Also, talking aboutvalue, Darneld Mooney is going way too

(53:14):
low, but uh, you'll behappy. You know who I took in
the last round of my draft thisweekend? Who Jan Dale Robinson? Let's
go. I think he's just gotoff the pup, or maybe he still
might be on the pup. Ithink he just got off if I remember
correctly. But for a late roundguy, I think that's awesome. I've
really he was explosives on the field. It's only getting better. I am

(53:37):
all about it, all about it. Also love me some Tank Bigsby.
I think I think that's a goodone, a good running He won't be
a last last round guy. ButI love I love everything about it.
But yeah, are you taking ifyou're a preseason soccer Yeah, you could
take fun. But there's also Istill I know we didn't talk about the

(54:00):
signings, but Zeke and uh Cookbeing gone, it doesn't leave out another
running back to be brought in therefor Dallas. But now you know,
it's a lot less and you're probablygonna be somebody that's gonna compliment douchwand they're
not gonna bring another small guy.They're gonna bring in a Leonard for net
or something. So h sure ifyou don't take a flyer on Deucewan because

(54:22):
it's fun. I'm not going tobe mad at you. You know that's
your first last week anyway, Yeah, exactly, all right, get anything
else. I think that's it kindof If you're in a league with me,
I've laid out my entire draft processto you. Don't listen to this.
If you are in drash with us, I'll move that to the front.

(54:43):
Uh. Yeah, we're back.We're pumped. I don't think we'll
have We don't have any foreseen absencesfor the time being, so so yeah,
we'll be around all all all therest of the season. I think
next week we'll probably talk a littlebit more preseason, since we'll have another
week or two of the belt andthen before we know football is going to
be here. College football is gonnabe here real soon. We got like

(55:04):
one or two more weeks before collegshooballs really week zero. Yeah, so
I probably take college school next week. Actually, if ye'll stick to our
schedule, that's right. Yeah,we do have a schedule. Be sure
to falls on Twitter at jet SetDynasty if you like to gamble at jet
Bets. Gamble the Twitter account andthe podcast jet Bets the Gambling Podcast,
probably coming back here pretty soon.We're actually going we're leaving now and going
to our official meeting, a preseasonmeeting, which is just going to the

(55:29):
bar and having some beers. Let'sgo, but it's an official meeting.
We'll write it off on our taxes. But yeah, check out that if
you're interested in and then we'll beback next week. Goodbye, goodbye.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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