August 20, 2025 • 60 mins
Randy Goodwin is a counselor helping SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) victims get through their trauma of ritual abuse. Randy wrote a book, Mind Control Programming In SRA Survivors: Understanding Mind Control Programming In SRA Survivors that explains thecondition and helps guide victims.
In this episode we discuss:
His book can be found at Amazon
In this episode we discuss:
- What is SRA
- Where SRA occurs
- Who are the victims
- What do victims experience
- Can victims be healed
His book can be found at Amazon
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake Up Radio Network a rational voice in a world
of conspiracy. Jim Duke perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, our guest is Randy Goodwin.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
He wrote a book Mind Control Programming and sr A Survivors.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How you doing, Randy, I'm doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Thank you. Thank you for having me on, Jim. I
appreciate it. That's very kind of you to have me
on and you know, talk about this a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, this is a very important topic that we do
cover and to have somebody here that experiences it and
deals with it is a treat I think I've even
referred people to you. I've heard of your name before
and somebody asked me because I do get people who
are victims who I don't know how to handle, I
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don't know how to deal with because I don't do
the healing process of it. I just do the awareness
part of it. But you're you're a counselor for c
r S c s r A Survivors And let me
just say s r A is short for Satanic ritual abuse. Well, right,
what does you what? What what does your your operation
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look like? What does your ministry do like? If you
could explain it?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, so you know, I help SRA survivors and those
in the occult that want to get free and serve Christ.
And you know, a lot of ministries probably uh put
the sales label on, so to speak, like just you know,
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meet with us once or twice and you're good to go.
But what happens is they meet with them for years
and years and years, and they just keep going round
and round and round the mountain, and these people never
get free. Uh, these are this is all I do,
just help this specific the group, you know, the groups
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of people here. It's a small it's a small little niche,
so to speak. And but that's just where God wants
me to stand, you know, is this is kind of
my job. And everybody everybody has a job. Nobody's job
is any more important than anybody else's by any stretch
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of the imagination. But I help these people. And Jim,
what's what's really interesting is there is a formula that
was made in ancient Egypt on creating a mind control slave.
And that formula is used today in you know, families,
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in the government, and I mean it is all kinds
of all facets and we can talk about that and
I can.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We'll get into that. So the prot see some like
you said, some people are a one shot deal. They
they come in, they cast demons out, they said you're delivered,
and they leave it. Or they have a big fancy
title or branding and and and they they have people
come up, they lay hands, they push them or whatever
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they do, and then they are off. But yeah, as
as you know, as we know, it's a process, because
this is stuff that's embedded in them. It's not Christ
does free us, free our mind and does get us
on a path of freedom, and and certainly saves us
and and emotionally and physically and everything else. But there's
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a process with this deep embedded thing. So just as
much as it's ingrained in the synopsis in their minds
and such, I would imagine it would take a process
to get them out of it. So, like, what's the
difference between like some people call themselves deliverance ministry. Do
you call consider yours deliverance? Is it the same thing.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That that word deliverance? I don't only like that word
because it's kind of a commercialized word so to speak.
I just like I just help people get free at
whatever word that that describes that. I'm just like a
a counselor minister, just someone they guide. We're going to
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guide you through the process. And by the way, it
does not take years to get this stuff out. It
could be a matter of just a couple of months,
oh really, okay, or maybe one year maximum ish, you know,
ends on the person, depends how aggressive they are, how
serious they are, and do they stick to it, you know,
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and you got to do some homework too. You can't
just you can't just meet with me, you know, on
a Wednesday and then the rest of the six days
you're voluntarily doing a bunch of bad things. You know.
It takes effort, and it takes a hard decision, it
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really does, you know. And these people they've been through
a lot, and my heart really goes out for him,
it really does, because you know, it's not their fault.
They're a complete victim. And being a victim means you
had no say in the matter. You were violated, and
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sorry survivor, was violated physically, emotionally, psychologically, and it can
be very extreme.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's very deep. It's deep embedded, so that you know,
there's a large process. I would think it would take longer.
What's the longest you've ever taken on it on a
person that you're healing.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Four months.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, And this was a this was a government mind
controlled person that was born with programs genetically. He was
born to the programs. And then when this imprint comes in,
which it does, like on, we're all born with an imprint, Okay,
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everybody is. This is twenty twenty five, Okay, So the
enemy's had a lot of time to learn human behavior
and do a lot of bad things. So ins a
necessary survivor, this imprint is born with this in their
limbic system in their brain. And this particular person, he
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you know, didn't necessarily go through a lot of stuff
as a child, but it was in there. The programming
was in there, and it was in the family. And
so when he came to I was like early twenties
twenty now, he started getting involved in groups and being
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very active and he was like he was he was
high level. He was a high level program Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And even four months that's that's yeah, I've I didn't
I would never guess it would be able to be
free that quick.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And he was motivating. He was motivated, he was determined,
he you know, and he you know, he did the work,
you know, and he showed he showed up every time,
you know. Bless his heart. He was he was he
was highly motivated.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So, yeah, you have to be dedicated to want to
be free. You do.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm going to ask you that later because I have
a follow up question with that. But what kind of
training went into this for you? And did you experience
anything on your own or was this just something that
you have a heart for.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No, I forgot I got some experience. So it was
about maybe seven years ago that I've been a Christian
most of my life. Gave my life to the Lord
around the age of twelve. Like most people, you take
a left turn when you become a teenager. You get
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into relationships that you should not have been but you
did for various reasons, and all this stuff starts going on.
So about seven years ago I got to the point
in my life, you know, I'm done. I just don't
want this stuff floating around in my head anymore. So
I got them in ease and I asked the Lord,
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whatever you got to do to take it out, Please
help me connect me to the people and help me Lord,
and I'll do it whatever you want me to do,
you know, whatever you want me to do. You want
me to go witness to fishermen on the side of
the river. Okay, that's whatever. So after I prayed, I
got up, nothing changed. Yeah, okay, here we go. So
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now I had to do something. So I just started
contacting people. And I had about at that time, about
four sessions on myself getting rid of stuff, and I
just got in the word and started researching this topic
day and night for about four years. I mean day
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and night literally, and after the four ishes, about four
or six, four to six sessions something like that. I
can't remember exactly, but I had stuff cleaned out of me.
I had demons come out of me, programming come out
of me because I was born with things just like
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like I said, like every living human being are born
with an imprint in their olympic system in their brain.
So when this came out of me, I was like, oh,
that feels good, like you weight comes off, you know,
And I just felt the Holy ghost go, I want
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you to make other people feel the way you feel
right now, got it noted? So that's why I do
what I.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Do and answer training because.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Those my instructions, you know. And I felt what I
knew what it felt like to go through some process
to get stuff removed. And so then then I started,
like I said, day and night just researching everything I
possibly could research and study and the Word and whatever information.
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And that brought me to this point. And now I
just I just helps our race survivors and those in
the occult. And you know, I bring up that little
story about myself about but I was serious at that point,
you know, I was just done messing around it. I
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want to emphasize you have to be at that point
if you really want the Lord to help you, and
if you are great, you know, because at our place,
at our place of brokenness, is where He can finally
do something with us, you know, because we got ourself
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in the way of in any way, shape or form,
Ah be a little tougher, you know. So I want
to emphasize that. But Jesus does love you. He does
have the power and the knowledge to remove stuff from you. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's it's not really like what your I don't want
to go through your process yet, but like what the
approach you take is obviously from a biblical view, from
a point of view of a of a Christian. Do
you get into like you know when we see in
the movies where the priests push the crosses and people's
predict them spaces and the demons go away or or
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actually actually they vomit on priests. I guess some of them.
But do you ever have to like cast out demons?
Do you ever get into that part of that?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, you know what there's there's there's no uh screaming,
there's no yelling. Uh, there's no uh. That's just it's
just not necessary because I don't do anything. You know,
the true Lord, God and Father does it all. And
when you do it the way he wants to do it,
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he just takes it out and it's it's it just
comes out, and so does all of the programming. He
removes all that also, so no, we don't do it.
I don't know he's yelling, no screaming, it's unnecessary. But
I will say this that all this stuff gets it's
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in the subconscience, in the subconscious of your mind. It's
just not like, okay, repeat this prayer, Okay, great, all right,
you're good. It's it's not that a frontal It goes
in the deep parts of the mind, and that's where
the enemy burrows in and hides and uh, he strategically hides,
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I might say, and uh covers things up so most
people can't find it, even if it's even it's just
an I'll hide hide the programming, and he'll hide behind
things within the programming. So that's that's how he burws
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in and stays there. So that's where you got to
go to pull it out.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Wow, yeah, so you know I see.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know even in the in the Bible, when when
they cast out demons, or Jesus even cast out a demon,
he would just say, uh, you know, be gone. And
it wasn't this big dramatic show. There wasn't a microphone
and the person would say okay, and and and and
and yell at the demon.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Demon, get out. I said, get out.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Because if you're in Christ and you're in his name,
even if you did it that way, it would be
a quick uh, in Jesus name, get out. And I
think they try to make a dramatic about it, like
a show, like it has to be this presentation for
the demon to see you're serious. But if you say
it with all, if if you do it with the authority,
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Christ is doing it, not you. Anyway, you're going in
there and you and you're basically undermining what was what
the devil had been implanted, and you're reversing that programming
and getting it out of them, because that's part of
the process of a deep embedded mind control program. It's
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different than a person cast with demons. And I've seen
people that you know they have a demonic spirit. You
sense it, and and it's like, oh, they have a
demonic spirit. Well, yeah, that might work for someone that
is overtaken by over control of some temperament or something
like that, that the spirit may be present. But when
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they're programmed, especially like you said as a child or
in your early ages, that it's it's in their loble
system or whatever you said, in the part of the
brain that's that takes more of a process than just
cast a demon out, because the mind has been pro
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on that and you're there to help them and guide
them through that other process where I think I think
some preachers are over zealous and they think it's just
like get it done, be out, you know, let me
show that I can do this and cast it out
and you can go your way and everything's taken care of.
But I don't know if even pastors, because I don't
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know of any who actually get into this actual process
or even accept there or even understand it or know
it that there's this that goes on, because it's I
think in our circles we have seen it. Like I said,
I've got people that approach me that have been under it,
and I can't believe the things that they have told me.
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And I feel helpless because I can't help them. And
I like to know someone like you that I can
tell them to see your book or or get help.
And you know, because there's not many people local doing it,
maybe we can explain for a second what s are
a actually is and how it's even that in the
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difference between the mind control or the general practice of
it and experimentation versus like a Satanic ritual abuse, there's differences.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I imagine it's the it's basically the same, basically the
same intention, the same outcome. You know, they want to
produce the same result, and it's they do the same thing,
like I said, as the formula that was written in
ancient Egypt. It's no, it's no different than the use today.
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Every every verse in the Bible. The enemy has a
little twisted perversion of it, you know, from cover to cover.
And we'll get into this, and I'll give you a
couple of scriptures of the foundational scriptures that the enemy
uses to produce a mind control slave. And what I
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mean by mind controls like you know, you've heard the
word monarch, No, a monarch, mind control slave, slave unto
the God of this world. That's what I mean by that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And uh, there's people and groups that that practiced this,
and there's there's more. I mean, it's uh, it's it
leads to behavioral problems, that leads to psychological disorders and
trauma based episodes. But it's it's like you said, it's
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a process that has put that in there, that has
caused that. And we tend to think that these things
happen in remote places or dark regions, or maybe even
secluded places or in covens or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Where does it really happen.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It could happen to the house right next door to you,
you know, right in plain sight. And you know, these
could be nice people. They could be just you know, hey, neighbor,
how you doing. Nice people, you know, but they could
be mind control slaves under the God of this world.
They could be involved in a coven, you know, have
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meetings in groups, may not maybe not at their house.
Maybe at their house, they could be going other places.
It's possible, but yeah, it could be your next door neighbor.
And of course you know, well, you know we always
talk about the elites, how they meet in secret, in private,
undisclosed destinations, that too, But yeah, it could be hit.
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It Usually it's hidden in plain sight.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's it's I've heard people in churches. I've had people
come to me. I had somebody come to me based
on my podcast asking me, uh, how how to identif
five someone's been under SR Satanic ritual abuse? Come to
find out the person uh is in my area. And
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not only that, the person was talking about people that
I know or I came across and I was shocked
to hear it. And you know, you know, it's one
thing it's in these dark regions, but then when you
find out that people are entrapped in it locally, and
it could be in your government, in your region, in
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your neighborhood, or even in your own household, that gets
that gets scared. Now, what's funny is you know that
Nexium cult, the Nexium with the that that uh was
his name. I forgot his name now, but Ranier, Keith Ranier.
That's down the street from me. Okay, that was in
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my neighborhood growing up. It was across the street. It
was actually next door to my dentist office or down
by my dentist office. That's how close to me that happened.
And no one knew that was happening in that time.
That's how close this stuff can be. And that's probably
as close as I don't want to say it's as
close as I've come to it, because I'm sure I've
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been closer to it. I have family members who it
got revealed to me that they as children were abused,
ritually abused by their grandmother. I'm not gonna exactly tell
who it is, but it's people close to me. I
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mean people in my family.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Grandmother.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And the person came out and told somebody and he's
a big, burly, you know, like strong man, and he
just bawled when he when he released that because he
had to tell somebody. But this happens in the family
and growing up, I guess he experienced it, and it
gets scary when it's that close to you. This is
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not just in America though, right, it's worldwide.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's worldwide. It's worldwide. It doesn't matter what country, and
it's the entire world. You know, at the Tower of Babel,
there were fourteen ruling families who started it. Some say twelve,
some say thirteen. I say there's fourteen. But the point
is those ruling families when the tongues of ball dispersed
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from the tower, they just didn't stay right there in
that central place. They went all over the world. They
took it with them. They took it with them, you know. So,
and it's worldwide. It's worldwide. And I'd also like to say,
you don't have to be actively involved physically to have
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this going on in your soul. You could have just
been born with this imprint. Just think about that for
a second. You know, you're just you're born with this
imprint because of the family or someone in your ancestry,
usually grandparents and further back. Because they like to skip
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a generation, so they really so they won't be as detectable.
Oh if they repeated every generation, then it's oh yeah,
that's that's a no brainer. So they like to skip
a generation or two, so that isn't as detectable.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I never heard that before. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So this imprint, you know, let's say let's say, for example,
somebody like your great grandpa or something of that nature,
or even further back, was involved, even just that tiny
a tiny bit, or maybe was involved in a mason
of some some level. Well, that imprint, the entities will
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pass it on to the generations. In Exodus thirty four,
you know, it talks about goes onto the third and
fourth generations of the fathers, the sins of the fathers. Well,
they want to keep that perpetuated and keep that sin going.
So that's what they do. You know, like if you're
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third or fourth generation, they're going to keep that going
forward and keep it going. You could have started thousand
years ago in your bloodline and just kept going on,
and you're born with this imprint, and now you go
through life and you're just wondering about these choices and
what's just what's going on? Why you know what's going on? Well,
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that that could very well be.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Wow, it's deeper than we think.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And it's like I said, it's it's uh, it's it's
your immediate family may not have physically part participated in
these activities, but you were genetically born with that imprint.
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So you mentioned those scriptures.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Maybe we can go over some scriptures you can tell me, Okay,
I know, like they talk about where they were doing
rituals passing their children through the fire. I mean, if
that ain't abuse, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
All that that is. You know they give it on demulk.
You know, that's what they're back in the day. So
refer back to again to Exodus thirty four versus is
what the whole chapter talks about is God's talking to
Moses and he's saying, I'm your God. I'm the God
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of all the children, and I'm the God of all
the animals, and in verses eighteen and nineteen it says,
I am the god of the womb that comes and
everything that comes out of the womb, you know, in
a woman and in the animals, I'm the God of them. Well,
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the enemy uses that particular scripture to pervert because he
wants to be the god. He wants the one that
sits on the top of your soul. So that word
womb actually means matrix. And the movie The Matrix is
just a great example because you know, Neo went in
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to the program and wanted to remove those pro the
programming that was in there, you know, as his mission
was a he was a mockery of Jesus going in
and taking out the program. Well, that exit Exodus thirty
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four talks about that, because the enemy wants to be
the one who seats on the womb of the woman.
And that's exactly what they do. If you give me
ten minutes, I'll explain this whole process here. So they
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will take the woman that they're you know, fixing to
get pregnant, and they'll they'll have a meeting and of
course they'll do their rituals and their oaths and summon
the entities to go into the womb. And she's not
even pregnant yet, and they will give that womb over
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to the God of this world. And that's that Exodus
thirty four. They're given that womb over to the God
of this world and they seal it with hermetic magic.
So that just keeps what they did, you know, intact,
it kind of puts a lock on it, so to speak.
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I would like to use that example putting saran wrap
over food. You know, it keeps, it keeps it fresh,
so it keep it keeps it fresh. So u uh.
Then they will want the woman to get pregnant. So
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and they will of course wait until ovulation takes place,
and during that time they will have another meeting and
within that group, it's it'll be like the father, grandfather,
could be brothers, other various men that are in that group,
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they will all deposit. There's seed within that woman, and
we all know that only one seed can fertilize the egg.
One can go in there. Well, they're hoping for another
egg to drop, because keep in mind, the womb has
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already been given over to the enemy. Okay, so the
enemy is already inside the woman and a doe trying
to make the chimera go on with these eggs. So
that what do they want? They want the second egg
to drop and for that to get fertilized as well,
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and the stronger egg will ingest the other egg, the
second one, and that's done intentionally, and when that happens,
that creates the first murder within the womb, and that's
what they want. You know, Devil comes to steal, kill
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and destroy, so he just killed, so they will even
after that egg has been fertilized. The woman will repeatedly
have men deposit seed into her. Everybody within the group.
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And not only that, they will they'll get like a snake,
and they'll get the skin off of a snake, and
inside the snake, they'll they'll make a little like a
petri dish and they'll mix human animal, reptile, you know,
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and a couple of variations of each into this peach reddish,
and they'll mix it all up, and they'll make three
rings out of that skin of the snake, you know,
just three little rings. They'll insert those rings inside the woman.
Now we know that, you know, a woman's canal and
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their womb, it always absorbs everything that's deposited in there.
That's just the way God made it. So it absorbs
all the DNA of all this that's been introduced in there.
That DNA also goes into that fetus. And so you ever,
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you know, you've heard shows and stuff about oh they're
a reptilian and reptilian and all this, Well, a person
does does have a reptilian DNA within them.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It almost sounds like they're actually trying to superimpose the
idea or the metaphor of serpent seed.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, actually, yeah, absolutely, you know, and they want all
this DNA to go into that fertilized egg to make
it so they they have imprints within them that more
than one father, wow, more than more than one male.
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And they put the three rings inside the woman and
that's you know, that's where the Lord of the Rings
movie came from is from. When they do this. If
you turn to Genesis one sixteen, it says God made
two lights, one to rule by day and one to
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rule by night. So this fetus is born now. So
they start at about I mean really really soon, maybe
like three months, and then the physical torture will start.
The psychological torture will start, you know, and the father
will hold the child and look at the child and
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say unloving things, you know, other than you know, what
most parents would do. And so what this child hears
a three month old is nobody loves me, nobody cares,
and during the pain and the torture, nobody's going to
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be there to save me or help me. So that's
all this child is going into this child's brain, and
during this physical torture they want to do it push
those limits to extreme limits. From about the age of
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three to five years old. A child is unable to
create an alternate personality. It's just not physically able to
do that, because the effulgence of the life hasn't you know,
the brain hasn't come forward, So it's not able to
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produce an alternate personal reality like an adult is. So
in order for that fetus or that child infant to survive,
the hemispheres will get split, and that's the only mode
of survival. The hemispheres will get split, and a cavern
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will be in the two hemispheres of the brain, not
physically but spiritually. And what's created then is we have,
like a good person over here, we've got a bad
person over here. And when we split the hemispheres like that,
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that is a perversion of Genesis one sixteen. Because God
made two lights, one to rule by day and one
to rule by night. And the one to rule by
day is the Sun, and the one to rule by
night is Astaroth. At the Tower of Babel, they built
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the Tower of Babbel to worship Astaroth, and that's where
Nimrod was gave presented ball to the world. So one
that rules by day, you got the pyramid going down.
The one that rules by night is the pyramid going up? Well,
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if you over impose those, it makes a very familiar symbol.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I talked about that, yep.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, so everybody's familiar. Everybody's familiar with that symbol.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And it's on displayed on flags and everything. Yeah, rightly
displayed on as a good symbol. Even though we know
the ancient meaning. I've had people tell me that that's
not ancient, it only goes back to a certain century,
like you know, a couple centuries ago whatever. I said, No,
it's been It's been shown on Babylonian inscriptions. It's been
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shown throughout history, and they superimposed it with another narrative
to say it was something different. But it's even in
the Bible. I think it refers to this. When I
see Amus, what's that five eight five eight? I think
five sixteen five eight where it talks about your worship
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Molek and the image of the star of your god
Chaiun and Chiun. It can represent a pentagram, but from
what I understand, it represents Saturn and Saturn's and notorious
for being hexagram image, and it could be the star
hexagram right there. And also in acts where it talks
(36:50):
about a renfan your god and again talks about the image.
It may be a notorious image that's been around for
a long time time.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, you're right, it's been around. It's been around for
thousands of years. Yeah. The Freemasonry is a whole whole
different type.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
We see it in there too.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yep, you're you're correct that, you know, because that's where
that symbol, that's what they, you know, put on.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Their the compass in the square.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, the compass in the square and the Jewish
the Jewish flag has it. And anyway, so the Genesis
one sixteen is, uh, the one that rules by day,
we're gonna have ball. The one that rules by night
is going to be Astaroth. So they create it's a
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it's a rotating thing that constantly rotates, you know, twenty
four to seven like this, And after they get the
one split, they're gonna split it again. Now we got four.
And the four is the starting point because that represents
the four corners of the earth or the and that
means the four corners of one soul. And the god
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of this world wants to be the god over the
four corners of your soul. And once he does that
then they keep on splitting, and there could be like
up to seventy two splits.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
And that every where. It can be.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Usually some people have said that they've seen thousands or
experienced thousands, but I've heard thirty.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I've heard seventy.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So I'm not talking about altars. I'm talking about real personalities,
real people.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Right right, No, that's what I'm talking about too. It's
okay because I know of people that had thirty different
different characters within them, and one it would be triggered
when they needed a spy or you know, go into
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office and spy things out. And then of course when
they need more of a innocent person, the person, the
innocent person would would come out of that, and it
was useful to I had somebody come to me and
she said that she had her her. I think, yeah,
it was her. She had had these different things and
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each each character in her was different than the core,
of course, and it had a specific missions each each one.
And they sure, and that's that gets in the experimentation
of of you know, you talked about the ritual part
of it, and this is primarily what they do, but
scientifically they do this too, don't they like the uh
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scientifically they split and they do. You know, we talk
about mk ultra and things like that. It's the same thing.
Although sometimes they claim there's no like worship or something,
uh you know, ritualistic involved in it. However, what I
find is that there are and I know somebody that
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was in the military, and she said her parents were
in the military and she was taken as a child
to this daycare and the daycare. The person would come
and take her to the daycare, and in the daycare
they would put these experiments on her. And then in
another room, she said she witnessed people dressed in robes
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chanting over her. And like you said about the secure
of the of the experiment, there's tends to be another group,
even if it's not the experimentation, it's another group somebody
that puts that secure aspect and it has to be yeah,
locke on it and it's it's it's it's wild how
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it goes right back to the same practices of ancient
Babylon and the priesthoods and things like.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
It looks just like that, it doesn't change.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You're right, that's correct, because they like in the in
the government and uh, you know, we all we all
hear stories about maybe somebody famous, uh committed committed suicide.
They jumped off of a tall building or something like that, right,
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or they got they committed suicide in in.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Jail, especially if they're serial killers.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, right, So there's they they can program a person
and they will give a verbal and they'll give a
a visual Q. You know, a Q not a trigger.
A Q is when they want that personality to come up,
(41:51):
and that personality has been programmed to carry out a
task like you know what you were talking about, and
it could be you know, assassin or just could be whatever, very.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Specific information or anything.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, and these people are extremely skilled. I mean extremely skilled.
I mean it's good, it's gonna happen, and it's it's
gonna be done like that, and it always looks like
the person did a self inflicted act, you know, they
jumped off the building themselves, or they pulled the trigger
(42:29):
or you know what have you. You know, on and
on and on. But they are very skilled at what
they do. They have been extremely trained. They got skills
that supersede you know, the general population. And so yeah,
they can be programmed with there's a QUE, there's a
(42:51):
visual and an audible cute, and they'll bring that personality
up to carry out that task, and then when the
task is over, then they will give another cue and
the personality will go back.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Down and they won't ever remember, right, I've heard of that.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
And like, you know, like hey, let's go get a
burger and a beer or something like that. You know, yeah, there,
they won't even remember. And that that's really sad, you know,
because that person's you know, if that person ever knew
Christ or had any inclination of the love that that
(43:36):
Christ has for people and or himself, then he could
get free or she could get free.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I want to ask a question about that so well
about the victims you mentioned that, you know, if they're
under that programming, sometimes they don't realize they did that.
So do victim realize that they're victims? Sometimes they don't,
But do they sometimes? Or is there a battle going
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on that they sometimes know something's going on.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Usually they'll kind they'll be older. So like let's say,
for example, during the ages of ten to sixteen or something,
a female is going to be you know, trafficked, is
going to be used for services, you know, to render
to politicians and people just whoever they're you know, sent
(44:34):
out to service men. The boys are being groomed to
have their own to have their own group, and so
they can be the the.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Controller, handlers or whatever we call them.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
They can be the handlers. I'm trying to use real.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Careful words here, but we're not going on YouTube. Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I've been slash from them long time ago. Okay, we're
bringing up the Finder's Cult and the Franklin Files. They
said that was my last uh uh that was last
because it was uh cyberbullying.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay. So the boys are groomed to, you know, to
be the handlers, to be the controllers, be the programmers,
to have their own group and be in charge of
their own group. And but they can also be used
for services as well, absolutely, one hundred percent, because there
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are people who they don't really care if it's a
boy or girl, you know. So yeah, they will have
they will do that, and they so like after the
age of about sixteen ish, maybe eighteen for a girl,
then they're gonna not use her for those services anymore
as much, and it's going to kind of start slowing
(45:53):
down a lot.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, you know, so I see, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Because you know, they want the young ones, you know,
the big the politicians and stuff. They want the young ones,
but they also go for you know, women in their
twenties of course, but the older they get that just
starts slowing.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
The more sense or maturity they may get and they
start to break down and realize.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Correct, and a woman after about thirty, they're kind of
out of the out of the out of the system
of being offered as a service.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
So does it wead off from them or I mean
you talk about being embedded, it was it's in them.
Do they come to grips like realizing something happened and
sometimes like seek help or do they carry on and
just kind of continue their life with this in in
the in their subconscious.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Both both now and they and these people can be
a born again believer and a Satanist at the same time.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, I've I've heard of that.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
You know, this this side, remember right, I was telling you,
is dark. This side's light. So this side they're going
to be a born again believer. They're going to know scripture.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I've heard of stories of going Saturday night to a
Satanic cult ritual and then Sunday morning preaching at the pulpit.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh my goodness, you'd be surprised that the people I
minister too, who are born and raised in a church,
and the pastor the priest whatever you want to label him,
at Sunday morning, he's preaching the word of God. Friday night,
it's all out. It's all out coven and they're sacrificing babies,
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you know, and doing all this stuff too. And you
know what's really bad, what's really sick about this is
they do all this this awful stuff just to so
they can get more entities in themselves, so they can
go up the wrong with more power. Oh yeah, that's it.
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It's all about self.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's all about power and energy and self and self empowerment,
even though it's concealed as yeah, well it's concealed as rituals,
but I guess it would be considered for the self,
but for the prestige of the self and recognition from
the other groups and the accomplishment, right, is there like
an adrenaline from that, Well, of course.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
They get adrenaline Russia, you know. And when they do
acts and the children and stuff, they get more entities
than to them, makes them more powerful and more control,
you know. And these children that are in these families,
you probably won't even know it because they're gonna be
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going to a public school and they're going to get
good grades and by all appearances there's there're gonna be
decent kids. They will be excused at certain times because
they'll have appointments they'll have to keep and have to make,
(49:01):
and during those appointments it could last, you know, maybe
hour and a half. They'll go, you know, thirteen year
old girl left to go to an appointment, and then
she'll go back to school.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
So usually about the age of forty is when it
starts breaking down.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Okay, So yeah, I got a sensitive question for people
that are you know, might be I don't want to
trigger anybody, but victims the you talked about the families.
I understand that they're groomed, they're brought up out of
their control, but is there situations where the victims have
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put themselves in these situations. I know you talked about
thirty forty years old. That's older, but even as teens
like I know that celebrities are a lot of times
susceptible to this because they dangled carrots and then they
invite them in and then the networks get a hold
of them, and then they start getting groomed into these
networks and doing things that they wouldn't And we hear
(50:02):
people coming out, uh talking about how they were controlled
or they were made to do so well we heard
it anything. Yeah, they're handpicked, but I mean right, they're
hand picked. But the victims, I mean sometimes the family
has pushed them into these situations. But are the victims
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sometimes putting themselves in a vulnerable situation and kind of
taking the dangling carrot.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
They've already got the they've already got the genetic imprint,
it's already in their Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
They usually pick and choose who they already know.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
There's a course and yeah and so yeah, so these
kids will by all, by all intents and purposes, it's
it's a normal family, you know, and nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
So like let's look at the other the other end
of the line. Now they're forty years old, okay, and ah,
these memories are just just going like this, right, Okay,
So they ask mom and dad, Hey, mom and dad,
what about this time right here and this happened? Are
(51:12):
you talking about? Mom and dad will say that no,
that didn't happen. What do you mean, brother and sister?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I remember something?
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Oh nobody left you remember? We better bring you to rehab.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, we've got to put you in rehab.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
We got programming rehab because I've heard that there's a
more psychiatric centers that we know that are really adept
to working with the handlers putting people back under programming.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Well, you know, and if if somebody starts talking like this,
you know, and just talk to they're gonna put They're
gonna have them go see a psychiatrist. They're gonna put
them on medication or in a facility, so nobody has
to deal with them anymore.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Oh yeah, Can I tell you a story. So I
had a woman for in the South, and she had
contacted me and said she believes she's being gang stalked.
And she had a husband and the husband I guess
she sensed abuse or something in the husband, and the
husband was forced to move out and her house was
(52:18):
being tormented and she was being tormented, and she went
to the police, and police started saying things like if
you if you keep bringing this up and bring contacting us,
we're gonna have you arrested.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
And she was she went.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
To a somebody had approached her and said, if you
keep this up and you insist on this narrative, we
have psychologists that you will be assigned to that will
validate your mental illness. Things like that. You know, I
don't have to spread exactly. It's been a year since
I heard the story. She told me.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Dennis are notorious for being involved.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Who Dan really?
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (53:03):
How is that?
Speaker 1 (53:06):
I don't know what it is about dentists, but it
is one of the professions that they use. They handpick dentists,
not not every dentist.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I'm not saying that right, I understand, but.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
For some reason they'll use dentists to get into people.
I can give you about four or five stories where
people have gone to dentists and after the dentists appointment,
they're they're physically somewhere else, you know, they got into it,
like for a root canal or whatever. Right, they go
(53:41):
into the dentist office, and then they wake up somewhere
else at a different physical location, Oh my gosh, and
then come to find out they got hypnotized. Hypnotized. That's
different than than counseling. That's when they intentionally go into
(54:02):
your brain and intentionally you know, do bad things. So
they'll they'lp uh hypnotize these people. Two, they'll put personalities
into them with like with killing and so now you know,
(54:24):
then they'll they'll rape the women and and or you know,
abuse the boys. But it's usually the women because they
can take advantage of them.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
How do they do that in a session, like if
if they got patience there.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
And they're they're just they're just good.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I know that, you know, we said movies on that,
so I can understand watching the you know, like you
said about predictive programming. We see it right in the
movies and uh you know where they're having a you know,
uh hold on my calls and and you wonder, you know,
maybe that does that's how it, you know, it happens.
You don't realize that they didn't schedule anybody else that day.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
It happens, you know, and and they will I'll hypnotize them.
And now this person is already h implanted with you know,
a personality that they're that they can bring up at
any time.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Wow, that's it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
It's crazy. It's true.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
I know, I know, because like I said, enough people
come to me that uh said they were brought into
certain situations and uh, wow, well we we.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Wanted people be aware of this.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
But uh, in the last few minutes, can you, you know,
chime us chime in on the hope for the victim
and is there even hope for the practitioner.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
There's hope for everybody, and we say that. I said
at the start of the broadcast, you have to really
want it. And even if you are an SRRA survivor
and you've gone through the whole, you know, the whole
lifetime of this, there's there is hope Jesus, even though
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you don't feel it, even though you've never seen it,
even though you've never been treated by anybody, Jesus truly
does love you. Psalm one, verse three simply says this,
I'm paraphrasing. He came to heal our broken minds and
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bind up all the wounds, and that scripture is true.
He can do it. He has, he has what it
takes to pull it out, and he can do it
for you. He wants to do it for you, but
you have to really want it. There is absolutely, there
is hope, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
If anybody that's out there doesn't have to be in despair,
they can seek scriptures, but they might need a guidance,
right they might need you or somebody.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
That it's almost impossible to do on your own.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
How do you find these people?
Speaker 3 (57:00):
How they find I mean, I wanted you to give
your contact information, but I know that you can only
handle a certain amount of people. You know, you can
handle the whole listening in the whole world that's listening
to this or whatever.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
But but like, is there other places.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
That they can go to? Is there you know who
they should they seek out?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
You you know, I would just say start googling, of course,
and interview them. Ask them some questions. Ask what they're
Ask what their method is, what do they do, what's
their time frame? What's their success rate? Are they do
they scream and yell? You know like this. You have
(57:43):
to ask these types of questions and then maybe have
just meet and greet with them. I like to do
a meet and greet with people if possible, just to
just to say hi. Because what you have to do
because s a rate survivor doesn't trust anybody, and rightly,
so okay, it's you know, they don't trust anybody, so
(58:06):
they have to trust that counselor or the person they're
going to. So just meet with them, just talk to him,
just say hi, my name's you know, my name's uh,
you know, Jane Doe. And just like this, just a
just a simple meet and greet.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
I would would encourage that it's tough.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
And if they really want and they and they come
to Christ, they they he will guide them. I'm sure
he would help. You know, they say, uh, you know,
Christ is there. He'll he'll heal you, he'll take everything away.
Well that's true, but sometimes he directs us to people
because we have these physical things that aren't.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
Just going away.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
You know, like when you have a broken finger, you're
not going to say, Lord, you can make this better.
Yes I can, but I'm going to lead you to
people that could put a brace on it or whatever.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Doctor's practical that he you know, does it that way.
But he will lead people that are honestly seeking him
to lead them to the person that can.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Help absolutely one hundred percent. You know, get you got
to really want it. Ask God to connect you to
the to the person he wants to connect you with,
and he will. He will.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
You know, why don't you tell people how to connect
with you and you know where they can find your book.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Sure. My website is Randy Goodwin dot org. Lots of
information on there. There's a YouTube link. I got lots
of free videos on YouTube, training videos. You can connect
with me on my website. I do have a book
on Amazon. Just look under like Randy Goodwin or just
(59:47):
SRA Survivors Mind Control Programming and it will come up
and yeah, you can just you can send me a
note if you want to. It would be great.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
That sounds great, Randy. This has been.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Really informative and I appreciate you being out there for
people and being out there to let us know what
there is and what's.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Going on and that there's hope. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Thank you for having me, Jim, I appreciate it. God
bless you you too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Thanks a lot
Wake Up Radio Network a rational voice in a world
of conspiracy. Jim Duke perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, our guest is Randy Goodwin.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
He wrote a book Mind Control Programming and sr A Survivors.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
How you doing, Randy, I'm doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Thank you. Thank you for having me on, Jim. I
appreciate it. That's very kind of you to have me
on and you know, talk about this a little bit.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, this is a very important topic that we do
cover and to have somebody here that experiences it and
deals with it is a treat I think I've even
referred people to you. I've heard of your name before
and somebody asked me because I do get people who
are victims who I don't know how to handle, I
(00:53):
don't know how to deal with because I don't do
the healing process of it. I just do the awareness
part of it. But you're you're a counselor for c
r S c s r A Survivors And let me
just say s r A is short for Satanic ritual abuse. Well, right,
what does you what? What what does your your operation
(01:14):
look like? What does your ministry do like? If you
could explain it?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, so you know, I help SRA survivors and those
in the occult that want to get free and serve Christ.
And you know, a lot of ministries probably uh put
the sales label on, so to speak, like just you know,
(01:40):
meet with us once or twice and you're good to go.
But what happens is they meet with them for years
and years and years, and they just keep going round
and round and round the mountain, and these people never
get free. Uh, these are this is all I do,
just help this specific the group, you know, the groups
(02:04):
of people here. It's a small it's a small little niche,
so to speak. And but that's just where God wants
me to stand, you know, is this is kind of
my job. And everybody everybody has a job. Nobody's job
is any more important than anybody else's by any stretch
(02:24):
of the imagination. But I help these people. And Jim,
what's what's really interesting is there is a formula that
was made in ancient Egypt on creating a mind control slave.
And that formula is used today in you know, families,
(02:45):
in the government, and I mean it is all kinds
of all facets and we can talk about that and
I can.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
We'll get into that. So the prot see some like
you said, some people are a one shot deal. They
they come in, they cast demons out, they said you're delivered,
and they leave it. Or they have a big fancy
title or branding and and and they they have people
come up, they lay hands, they push them or whatever
(03:18):
they do, and then they are off. But yeah, as
as you know, as we know, it's a process, because
this is stuff that's embedded in them. It's not Christ
does free us, free our mind and does get us
on a path of freedom, and and certainly saves us
and and emotionally and physically and everything else. But there's
(03:41):
a process with this deep embedded thing. So just as
much as it's ingrained in the synopsis in their minds
and such, I would imagine it would take a process
to get them out of it. So, like, what's the
difference between like some people call themselves deliverance ministry. Do
you call consider yours deliverance? Is it the same thing.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That that word deliverance? I don't only like that word
because it's kind of a commercialized word so to speak.
I just like I just help people get free at
whatever word that that describes that. I'm just like a
a counselor minister, just someone they guide. We're going to
(04:28):
guide you through the process. And by the way, it
does not take years to get this stuff out. It
could be a matter of just a couple of months,
oh really, okay, or maybe one year maximum ish, you know,
ends on the person, depends how aggressive they are, how
serious they are, and do they stick to it, you know,
(04:54):
and you got to do some homework too. You can't
just you can't just meet with me, you know, on
a Wednesday and then the rest of the six days
you're voluntarily doing a bunch of bad things. You know.
It takes effort, and it takes a hard decision, it
(05:16):
really does, you know. And these people they've been through
a lot, and my heart really goes out for him,
it really does, because you know, it's not their fault.
They're a complete victim. And being a victim means you
had no say in the matter. You were violated, and
(05:37):
sorry survivor, was violated physically, emotionally, psychologically, and it can
be very extreme.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's very deep. It's deep embedded, so that you know,
there's a large process. I would think it would take longer.
What's the longest you've ever taken on it on a
person that you're healing.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Four months.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Oh really?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, And this was a this was a government mind
controlled person that was born with programs genetically. He was
born to the programs. And then when this imprint comes in,
which it does, like on, we're all born with an imprint, Okay,
(06:28):
everybody is. This is twenty twenty five, Okay, So the
enemy's had a lot of time to learn human behavior
and do a lot of bad things. So ins a
necessary survivor, this imprint is born with this in their
limbic system in their brain. And this particular person, he
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you know, didn't necessarily go through a lot of stuff
as a child, but it was in there. The programming
was in there, and it was in the family. And
so when he came to I was like early twenties
twenty now, he started getting involved in groups and being
(07:17):
very active and he was like he was he was
high level. He was a high level program Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And even four months that's that's yeah, I've I didn't
I would never guess it would be able to be
free that quick.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And he was motivating. He was motivated, he was determined,
he you know, and he you know, he did the work,
you know, and he showed he showed up every time,
you know. Bless his heart. He was he was he
was highly motivated.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So, yeah, you have to be dedicated to want to
be free. You do.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm going to ask you that later because I have
a follow up question with that. But what kind of
training went into this for you? And did you experience
anything on your own or was this just something that
you have a heart for.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No, I forgot I got some experience. So it was
about maybe seven years ago that I've been a Christian
most of my life. Gave my life to the Lord
around the age of twelve. Like most people, you take
a left turn when you become a teenager. You get
(08:31):
into relationships that you should not have been but you
did for various reasons, and all this stuff starts going on.
So about seven years ago I got to the point
in my life, you know, I'm done. I just don't
want this stuff floating around in my head anymore. So
I got them in ease and I asked the Lord,
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whatever you got to do to take it out, Please
help me connect me to the people and help me Lord,
and I'll do it whatever you want me to do,
you know, whatever you want me to do. You want
me to go witness to fishermen on the side of
the river. Okay, that's whatever. So after I prayed, I
got up, nothing changed. Yeah, okay, here we go. So
(09:16):
now I had to do something. So I just started
contacting people. And I had about at that time, about
four sessions on myself getting rid of stuff, and I
just got in the word and started researching this topic
day and night for about four years. I mean day
(09:39):
and night literally, and after the four ishes, about four
or six, four to six sessions something like that. I
can't remember exactly, but I had stuff cleaned out of me.
I had demons come out of me, programming come out
of me because I was born with things just like
(10:05):
like I said, like every living human being are born
with an imprint in their olympic system in their brain.
So when this came out of me, I was like, oh,
that feels good, like you weight comes off, you know,
And I just felt the Holy ghost go, I want
(10:25):
you to make other people feel the way you feel
right now, got it noted? So that's why I do
what I.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Do and answer training because.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Those my instructions, you know. And I felt what I
knew what it felt like to go through some process
to get stuff removed. And so then then I started,
like I said, day and night just researching everything I
possibly could research and study and the Word and whatever information.
(10:59):
And that brought me to this point. And now I
just I just helps our race survivors and those in
the occult. And you know, I bring up that little
story about myself about but I was serious at that point,
you know, I was just done messing around it. I
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want to emphasize you have to be at that point
if you really want the Lord to help you, and
if you are great, you know, because at our place,
at our place of brokenness, is where He can finally
do something with us, you know, because we got ourself
(11:43):
in the way of in any way, shape or form,
Ah be a little tougher, you know. So I want
to emphasize that. But Jesus does love you. He does
have the power and the knowledge to remove stuff from you. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's it's not really like what your I don't want
to go through your process yet, but like what the
approach you take is obviously from a biblical view, from
a point of view of a of a Christian. Do
you get into like you know when we see in
the movies where the priests push the crosses and people's
predict them spaces and the demons go away or or
(12:27):
actually actually they vomit on priests. I guess some of them.
But do you ever have to like cast out demons?
Do you ever get into that part of that?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, you know what there's there's there's no uh screaming,
there's no yelling. Uh, there's no uh. That's just it's
just not necessary because I don't do anything. You know,
the true Lord, God and Father does it all. And
when you do it the way he wants to do it,
(13:01):
he just takes it out and it's it's it just
comes out, and so does all of the programming. He
removes all that also, so no, we don't do it.
I don't know he's yelling, no screaming, it's unnecessary. But
I will say this that all this stuff gets it's
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in the subconscience, in the subconscious of your mind. It's
just not like, okay, repeat this prayer, Okay, great, all right,
you're good. It's it's not that a frontal It goes
in the deep parts of the mind, and that's where
the enemy burrows in and hides and uh, he strategically hides,
(13:46):
I might say, and uh covers things up so most
people can't find it, even if it's even it's just
an I'll hide hide the programming, and he'll hide behind
things within the programming. So that's that's how he burws
(14:07):
in and stays there. So that's where you got to
go to pull it out.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Wow, yeah, so you know I see.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know even in the in the Bible, when when
they cast out demons, or Jesus even cast out a demon,
he would just say, uh, you know, be gone. And
it wasn't this big dramatic show. There wasn't a microphone
and the person would say okay, and and and and
and yell at the demon.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Demon, get out. I said, get out.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Because if you're in Christ and you're in his name,
even if you did it that way, it would be
a quick uh, in Jesus name, get out. And I
think they try to make a dramatic about it, like
a show, like it has to be this presentation for
the demon to see you're serious. But if you say
it with all, if if you do it with the authority,
(14:56):
Christ is doing it, not you. Anyway, you're going in
there and you and you're basically undermining what was what
the devil had been implanted, and you're reversing that programming
and getting it out of them, because that's part of
the process of a deep embedded mind control program. It's
(15:19):
different than a person cast with demons. And I've seen
people that you know they have a demonic spirit. You
sense it, and and it's like, oh, they have a
demonic spirit. Well, yeah, that might work for someone that
is overtaken by over control of some temperament or something
like that, that the spirit may be present. But when
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they're programmed, especially like you said as a child or
in your early ages, that it's it's in their loble
system or whatever you said, in the part of the
brain that's that takes more of a process than just
cast a demon out, because the mind has been pro
(16:00):
on that and you're there to help them and guide
them through that other process where I think I think
some preachers are over zealous and they think it's just
like get it done, be out, you know, let me
show that I can do this and cast it out
and you can go your way and everything's taken care of.
But I don't know if even pastors, because I don't
(16:20):
know of any who actually get into this actual process
or even accept there or even understand it or know
it that there's this that goes on, because it's I
think in our circles we have seen it. Like I said,
I've got people that approach me that have been under it,
and I can't believe the things that they have told me.
(16:42):
And I feel helpless because I can't help them. And
I like to know someone like you that I can
tell them to see your book or or get help.
And you know, because there's not many people local doing it,
maybe we can explain for a second what s are
a actually is and how it's even that in the
(17:05):
difference between the mind control or the general practice of
it and experimentation versus like a Satanic ritual abuse, there's differences.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I imagine it's the it's basically the same, basically the
same intention, the same outcome. You know, they want to
produce the same result, and it's they do the same thing,
like I said, as the formula that was written in
ancient Egypt. It's no, it's no different than the use today.
(17:38):
Every every verse in the Bible. The enemy has a
little twisted perversion of it, you know, from cover to cover.
And we'll get into this, and I'll give you a
couple of scriptures of the foundational scriptures that the enemy
uses to produce a mind control slave. And what I
(18:00):
mean by mind controls like you know, you've heard the
word monarch, No, a monarch, mind control slave, slave unto
the God of this world. That's what I mean by that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
And uh, there's people and groups that that practiced this,
and there's there's more. I mean, it's uh, it's it
leads to behavioral problems, that leads to psychological disorders and
trauma based episodes. But it's it's like you said, it's
(18:38):
a process that has put that in there, that has
caused that. And we tend to think that these things
happen in remote places or dark regions, or maybe even
secluded places or in covens or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Where does it really happen.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It could happen to the house right next door to you,
you know, right in plain sight. And you know, these
could be nice people. They could be just you know, hey, neighbor,
how you doing. Nice people, you know, but they could
be mind control slaves under the God of this world.
They could be involved in a coven, you know, have
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meetings in groups, may not maybe not at their house.
Maybe at their house, they could be going other places.
It's possible, but yeah, it could be your next door neighbor.
And of course you know, well, you know we always
talk about the elites, how they meet in secret, in private,
undisclosed destinations, that too, But yeah, it could be hit.
(19:42):
It Usually it's hidden in plain sight.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's it's I've heard people in churches. I've had people
come to me. I had somebody come to me based
on my podcast asking me, uh, how how to identif
five someone's been under SR Satanic ritual abuse? Come to
find out the person uh is in my area. And
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not only that, the person was talking about people that
I know or I came across and I was shocked
to hear it. And you know, you know, it's one
thing it's in these dark regions, but then when you
find out that people are entrapped in it locally, and
it could be in your government, in your region, in
(20:32):
your neighborhood, or even in your own household, that gets
that gets scared. Now, what's funny is you know that
Nexium cult, the Nexium with the that that uh was
his name. I forgot his name now, but Ranier, Keith Ranier.
That's down the street from me. Okay, that was in
(20:56):
my neighborhood growing up. It was across the street. It
was actually next door to my dentist office or down
by my dentist office. That's how close to me that happened.
And no one knew that was happening in that time.
That's how close this stuff can be. And that's probably
as close as I don't want to say it's as
close as I've come to it, because I'm sure I've
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been closer to it. I have family members who it
got revealed to me that they as children were abused,
ritually abused by their grandmother. I'm not gonna exactly tell
who it is, but it's people close to me. I
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mean people in my family.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Grandmother.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
And the person came out and told somebody and he's
a big, burly, you know, like strong man, and he
just bawled when he when he released that because he
had to tell somebody. But this happens in the family
and growing up, I guess he experienced it, and it
gets scary when it's that close to you. This is
(22:05):
not just in America though, right, it's worldwide.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's worldwide. It's worldwide. It doesn't matter what country, and
it's the entire world. You know, at the Tower of Babel,
there were fourteen ruling families who started it. Some say twelve,
some say thirteen. I say there's fourteen. But the point
is those ruling families when the tongues of ball dispersed
(22:32):
from the tower, they just didn't stay right there in
that central place. They went all over the world. They
took it with them. They took it with them, you know. So,
and it's worldwide. It's worldwide. And I'd also like to say,
you don't have to be actively involved physically to have
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this going on in your soul. You could have just
been born with this imprint. Just think about that for
a second. You know, you're just you're born with this
imprint because of the family or someone in your ancestry,
usually grandparents and further back. Because they like to skip
(23:22):
a generation, so they really so they won't be as detectable.
Oh if they repeated every generation, then it's oh yeah,
that's that's a no brainer. So they like to skip
a generation or two, so that isn't as detectable.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I never heard that before. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So this imprint, you know, let's say let's say, for example,
somebody like your great grandpa or something of that nature,
or even further back, was involved, even just that tiny
a tiny bit, or maybe was involved in a mason
of some some level. Well, that imprint, the entities will
(24:09):
pass it on to the generations. In Exodus thirty four,
you know, it talks about goes onto the third and
fourth generations of the fathers, the sins of the fathers. Well,
they want to keep that perpetuated and keep that sin going.
So that's what they do. You know, like if you're
(24:31):
third or fourth generation, they're going to keep that going
forward and keep it going. You could have started thousand
years ago in your bloodline and just kept going on,
and you're born with this imprint, and now you go
through life and you're just wondering about these choices and
what's just what's going on? Why you know what's going on? Well,
(24:57):
that that could very well be.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Wow, it's deeper than we think.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And it's like I said, it's it's uh, it's it's
your immediate family may not have physically part participated in
these activities, but you were genetically born with that imprint.
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So you mentioned those scriptures.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Maybe we can go over some scriptures you can tell me, Okay,
I know, like they talk about where they were doing
rituals passing their children through the fire. I mean, if
that ain't abuse, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
All that that is. You know they give it on demulk.
You know, that's what they're back in the day. So
refer back to again to Exodus thirty four versus is
what the whole chapter talks about is God's talking to
Moses and he's saying, I'm your God. I'm the God
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of all the children, and I'm the God of all
the animals, and in verses eighteen and nineteen it says,
I am the god of the womb that comes and
everything that comes out of the womb, you know, in
a woman and in the animals, I'm the God of them. Well,
(26:19):
the enemy uses that particular scripture to pervert because he
wants to be the god. He wants the one that
sits on the top of your soul. So that word
womb actually means matrix. And the movie The Matrix is
just a great example because you know, Neo went in
(26:42):
to the program and wanted to remove those pro the
programming that was in there, you know, as his mission
was a he was a mockery of Jesus going in
and taking out the program. Well, that exit Exodus thirty
(27:02):
four talks about that, because the enemy wants to be
the one who seats on the womb of the woman.
And that's exactly what they do. If you give me
ten minutes, I'll explain this whole process here. So they
(27:23):
will take the woman that they're you know, fixing to
get pregnant, and they'll they'll have a meeting and of
course they'll do their rituals and their oaths and summon
the entities to go into the womb. And she's not
even pregnant yet, and they will give that womb over
(27:43):
to the God of this world. And that's that Exodus
thirty four. They're given that womb over to the God
of this world and they seal it with hermetic magic.
So that just keeps what they did, you know, intact,
it kind of puts a lock on it, so to speak.
(28:04):
I would like to use that example putting saran wrap
over food. You know, it keeps, it keeps it fresh,
so it keep it keeps it fresh. So u uh.
Then they will want the woman to get pregnant. So
(28:26):
and they will of course wait until ovulation takes place,
and during that time they will have another meeting and
within that group, it's it'll be like the father, grandfather,
could be brothers, other various men that are in that group,
(28:47):
they will all deposit. There's seed within that woman, and
we all know that only one seed can fertilize the egg.
One can go in there. Well, they're hoping for another
egg to drop, because keep in mind, the womb has
(29:10):
already been given over to the enemy. Okay, so the
enemy is already inside the woman and a doe trying
to make the chimera go on with these eggs. So
that what do they want? They want the second egg
to drop and for that to get fertilized as well,
(29:32):
and the stronger egg will ingest the other egg, the
second one, and that's done intentionally, and when that happens,
that creates the first murder within the womb, and that's
what they want. You know, Devil comes to steal, kill
(29:53):
and destroy, so he just killed, so they will even
after that egg has been fertilized. The woman will repeatedly
have men deposit seed into her. Everybody within the group.
(30:19):
And not only that, they will they'll get like a snake,
and they'll get the skin off of a snake, and
inside the snake, they'll they'll make a little like a
petri dish and they'll mix human animal, reptile, you know,
(30:43):
and a couple of variations of each into this peach reddish,
and they'll mix it all up, and they'll make three
rings out of that skin of the snake, you know,
just three little rings. They'll insert those rings inside the woman.
Now we know that, you know, a woman's canal and
(31:07):
their womb, it always absorbs everything that's deposited in there.
That's just the way God made it. So it absorbs
all the DNA of all this that's been introduced in there.
That DNA also goes into that fetus. And so you ever,
(31:32):
you know, you've heard shows and stuff about oh they're
a reptilian and reptilian and all this, Well, a person
does does have a reptilian DNA within them.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It almost sounds like they're actually trying to superimpose the
idea or the metaphor of serpent seed.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, actually, yeah, absolutely, you know, and they want all
this DNA to go into that fertilized egg to make
it so they they have imprints within them that more
than one father, wow, more than more than one male.
(32:19):
And they put the three rings inside the woman and
that's you know, that's where the Lord of the Rings
movie came from is from. When they do this. If
you turn to Genesis one sixteen, it says God made
two lights, one to rule by day and one to
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rule by night. So this fetus is born now. So
they start at about I mean really really soon, maybe
like three months, and then the physical torture will start.
The psychological torture will start, you know, and the father
will hold the child and look at the child and
(33:03):
say unloving things, you know, other than you know, what
most parents would do. And so what this child hears
a three month old is nobody loves me, nobody cares,
and during the pain and the torture, nobody's going to
(33:23):
be there to save me or help me. So that's
all this child is going into this child's brain, and
during this physical torture they want to do it push
those limits to extreme limits. From about the age of
(33:44):
three to five years old. A child is unable to
create an alternate personality. It's just not physically able to
do that, because the effulgence of the life hasn't you know,
the brain hasn't come forward, So it's not able to
(34:05):
produce an alternate personal reality like an adult is. So
in order for that fetus or that child infant to survive,
the hemispheres will get split, and that's the only mode
of survival. The hemispheres will get split, and a cavern
(34:29):
will be in the two hemispheres of the brain, not
physically but spiritually. And what's created then is we have,
like a good person over here, we've got a bad
person over here. And when we split the hemispheres like that,
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that is a perversion of Genesis one sixteen. Because God
made two lights, one to rule by day and one
to rule by night. And the one to rule by
day is the Sun, and the one to rule by
night is Astaroth. At the Tower of Babel, they built
(35:10):
the Tower of Babbel to worship Astaroth, and that's where
Nimrod was gave presented ball to the world. So one
that rules by day, you got the pyramid going down.
The one that rules by night is the pyramid going up? Well,
(35:33):
if you over impose those, it makes a very familiar symbol.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I talked about that, yep.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, so everybody's familiar. Everybody's familiar with that symbol.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And it's on displayed on flags and everything. Yeah, rightly
displayed on as a good symbol. Even though we know
the ancient meaning. I've had people tell me that that's
not ancient, it only goes back to a certain century,
like you know, a couple centuries ago whatever. I said, No,
it's been It's been shown on Babylonian inscriptions. It's been
(36:06):
shown throughout history, and they superimposed it with another narrative
to say it was something different. But it's even in
the Bible. I think it refers to this. When I
see Amus, what's that five eight five eight? I think
five sixteen five eight where it talks about your worship
(36:28):
Molek and the image of the star of your god
Chaiun and Chiun. It can represent a pentagram, but from
what I understand, it represents Saturn and Saturn's and notorious
for being hexagram image, and it could be the star
hexagram right there. And also in acts where it talks
(36:50):
about a renfan your god and again talks about the image.
It may be a notorious image that's been around for
a long time time.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, you're right, it's been around. It's been around for
thousands of years. Yeah. The Freemasonry is a whole whole
different type.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
We see it in there too.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Yep, you're you're correct that, you know, because that's where
that symbol, that's what they, you know, put on.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Their the compass in the square.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, the compass in the square and the Jewish
the Jewish flag has it. And anyway, so the Genesis
one sixteen is, uh, the one that rules by day,
we're gonna have ball. The one that rules by night
is going to be Astaroth. So they create it's a
(37:40):
it's a rotating thing that constantly rotates, you know, twenty
four to seven like this, And after they get the
one split, they're gonna split it again. Now we got four.
And the four is the starting point because that represents
the four corners of the earth or the and that
means the four corners of one soul. And the god
(38:02):
of this world wants to be the god over the
four corners of your soul. And once he does that
then they keep on splitting, and there could be like
up to seventy two splits.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
And that every where. It can be.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Usually some people have said that they've seen thousands or
experienced thousands, but I've heard thirty.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
I've heard seventy.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So I'm not talking about altars. I'm talking about real personalities,
real people.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Right right, No, that's what I'm talking about too. It's
okay because I know of people that had thirty different
different characters within them, and one it would be triggered
when they needed a spy or you know, go into
(38:55):
office and spy things out. And then of course when
they need more of a innocent person, the person, the
innocent person would would come out of that, and it
was useful to I had somebody come to me and
she said that she had her her. I think, yeah,
it was her. She had had these different things and
(39:17):
each each character in her was different than the core,
of course, and it had a specific missions each each one.
And they sure, and that's that gets in the experimentation
of of you know, you talked about the ritual part
of it, and this is primarily what they do, but
scientifically they do this too, don't they like the uh
(39:42):
scientifically they split and they do. You know, we talk
about mk ultra and things like that. It's the same thing.
Although sometimes they claim there's no like worship or something,
uh you know, ritualistic involved in it. However, what I
find is that there are and I know somebody that
(40:04):
was in the military, and she said her parents were
in the military and she was taken as a child
to this daycare and the daycare. The person would come
and take her to the daycare, and in the daycare
they would put these experiments on her. And then in
another room, she said she witnessed people dressed in robes
(40:27):
chanting over her. And like you said about the secure
of the of the experiment, there's tends to be another group,
even if it's not the experimentation, it's another group somebody
that puts that secure aspect and it has to be yeah,
locke on it and it's it's it's it's wild how
(40:49):
it goes right back to the same practices of ancient
Babylon and the priesthoods and things like.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
It looks just like that, it doesn't change.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You're right, that's correct, because they like in the in
the government and uh, you know, we all we all
hear stories about maybe somebody famous, uh committed committed suicide.
They jumped off of a tall building or something like that, right,
(41:19):
or they got they committed suicide in in.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Jail, especially if they're serial killers.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, right, So there's they they can program a person
and they will give a verbal and they'll give a
a visual Q. You know, a Q not a trigger.
A Q is when they want that personality to come up,
(41:51):
and that personality has been programmed to carry out a
task like you know what you were talking about, and
it could be you know, assassin or just could be whatever, very.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Specific information or anything.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, and these people are extremely skilled. I mean extremely skilled.
I mean it's good, it's gonna happen, and it's it's
gonna be done like that, and it always looks like
the person did a self inflicted act, you know, they
jumped off the building themselves, or they pulled the trigger
(42:29):
or you know what have you. You know, on and
on and on. But they are very skilled at what
they do. They have been extremely trained. They got skills
that supersede you know, the general population. And so yeah,
they can be programmed with there's a QUE, there's a
(42:51):
visual and an audible cute, and they'll bring that personality
up to carry out that task, and then when the
task is over, then they will give another cue and
the personality will go back.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Down and they won't ever remember, right, I've heard of that.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
And like, you know, like hey, let's go get a
burger and a beer or something like that. You know, yeah, there,
they won't even remember. And that that's really sad, you know,
because that person's you know, if that person ever knew
Christ or had any inclination of the love that that
(43:36):
Christ has for people and or himself, then he could
get free or she could get free.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I want to ask a question about that so well
about the victims you mentioned that, you know, if they're
under that programming, sometimes they don't realize they did that.
So do victim realize that they're victims? Sometimes they don't,
But do they sometimes? Or is there a battle going
(44:07):
on that they sometimes know something's going on.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Usually they'll kind they'll be older. So like let's say,
for example, during the ages of ten to sixteen or something,
a female is going to be you know, trafficked, is
going to be used for services, you know, to render
to politicians and people just whoever they're you know, sent
(44:34):
out to service men. The boys are being groomed to
have their own to have their own group, and so
they can be the the.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Controller, handlers or whatever we call them.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
They can be the handlers. I'm trying to use real.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Careful words here, but we're not going on YouTube. Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I've been slash from them long time ago. Okay, we're
bringing up the Finder's Cult and the Franklin Files. They
said that was my last uh uh that was last
because it was uh cyberbullying.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay. So the boys are groomed to, you know, to
be the handlers, to be the controllers, be the programmers,
to have their own group and be in charge of
their own group. And but they can also be used
for services as well, absolutely, one hundred percent, because there
(45:30):
are people who they don't really care if it's a
boy or girl, you know. So yeah, they will have
they will do that, and they so like after the
age of about sixteen ish, maybe eighteen for a girl,
then they're gonna not use her for those services anymore
as much, and it's going to kind of start slowing
(45:53):
down a lot.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, you know, so I see, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Because you know, they want the young ones, you know,
the big the politicians and stuff. They want the young ones,
but they also go for you know, women in their
twenties of course, but the older they get that just
starts slowing.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
The more sense or maturity they may get and they
start to break down and realize.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Correct, and a woman after about thirty, they're kind of
out of the out of the out of the system
of being offered as a service.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
So does it wead off from them or I mean
you talk about being embedded, it was it's in them.
Do they come to grips like realizing something happened and
sometimes like seek help or do they carry on and
just kind of continue their life with this in in
the in their subconscious.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Both both now and they and these people can be
a born again believer and a Satanist at the same time.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, I've I've heard of that.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
You know, this this side, remember right, I was telling you,
is dark. This side's light. So this side they're going
to be a born again believer. They're going to know scripture.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I've heard of stories of going Saturday night to a
Satanic cult ritual and then Sunday morning preaching at the pulpit.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh my goodness, you'd be surprised that the people I
minister too, who are born and raised in a church,
and the pastor the priest whatever you want to label him,
at Sunday morning, he's preaching the word of God. Friday night,
it's all out. It's all out coven and they're sacrificing babies,
(47:37):
you know, and doing all this stuff too. And you
know what's really bad, what's really sick about this is
they do all this this awful stuff just to so
they can get more entities in themselves, so they can
go up the wrong with more power. Oh yeah, that's it.
(47:57):
It's all about self.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's all about power and energy and self and self empowerment,
even though it's concealed as yeah, well it's concealed as rituals,
but I guess it would be considered for the self,
but for the prestige of the self and recognition from
the other groups and the accomplishment, right, is there like
an adrenaline from that, Well, of course.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
They get adrenaline Russia, you know. And when they do
acts and the children and stuff, they get more entities
than to them, makes them more powerful and more control,
you know. And these children that are in these families,
you probably won't even know it because they're gonna be
(48:41):
going to a public school and they're going to get
good grades and by all appearances there's there're gonna be
decent kids. They will be excused at certain times because
they'll have appointments they'll have to keep and have to make,
(49:01):
and during those appointments it could last, you know, maybe
hour and a half. They'll go, you know, thirteen year
old girl left to go to an appointment, and then
she'll go back to school.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
So usually about the age of forty is when it
starts breaking down.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
Okay, So yeah, I got a sensitive question for people
that are you know, might be I don't want to
trigger anybody, but victims the you talked about the families.
I understand that they're groomed, they're brought up out of
their control, but is there situations where the victims have
(49:40):
put themselves in these situations. I know you talked about
thirty forty years old. That's older, but even as teens
like I know that celebrities are a lot of times
susceptible to this because they dangled carrots and then they
invite them in and then the networks get a hold
of them, and then they start getting groomed into these
networks and doing things that they wouldn't And we hear
(50:02):
people coming out, uh talking about how they were controlled
or they were made to do so well we heard
it anything. Yeah, they're handpicked, but I mean right, they're
hand picked. But the victims, I mean sometimes the family
has pushed them into these situations. But are the victims
(50:23):
sometimes putting themselves in a vulnerable situation and kind of
taking the dangling carrot.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
They've already got the they've already got the genetic imprint,
it's already in their Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
They usually pick and choose who they already know.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
There's a course and yeah and so yeah, so these
kids will by all, by all intents and purposes, it's
it's a normal family, you know, and nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
So like let's look at the other the other end
of the line. Now they're forty years old, okay, and ah,
these memories are just just going like this, right, Okay,
So they ask mom and dad, Hey, mom and dad,
what about this time right here and this happened? Are
(51:12):
you talking about? Mom and dad will say that no,
that didn't happen. What do you mean, brother and sister?
Speaker 2 (51:19):
I remember something?
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Oh nobody left you remember? We better bring you to rehab.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, we've got to put you in rehab.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
We got programming rehab because I've heard that there's a
more psychiatric centers that we know that are really adept
to working with the handlers putting people back under programming.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Well, you know, and if if somebody starts talking like this,
you know, and just talk to they're gonna put They're
gonna have them go see a psychiatrist. They're gonna put
them on medication or in a facility, so nobody has
to deal with them anymore.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Oh yeah, Can I tell you a story. So I
had a woman for in the South, and she had
contacted me and said she believes she's being gang stalked.
And she had a husband and the husband I guess
she sensed abuse or something in the husband, and the
husband was forced to move out and her house was
(52:18):
being tormented and she was being tormented, and she went
to the police, and police started saying things like if
you if you keep bringing this up and bring contacting us,
we're gonna have you arrested.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
And she was she went.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
To a somebody had approached her and said, if you
keep this up and you insist on this narrative, we
have psychologists that you will be assigned to that will
validate your mental illness. Things like that. You know, I
don't have to spread exactly. It's been a year since
I heard the story. She told me.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Dennis are notorious for being involved.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Who Dan really?
Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (53:03):
How is that?
Speaker 1 (53:06):
I don't know what it is about dentists, but it
is one of the professions that they use. They handpick dentists,
not not every dentist.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
I'm not saying that right, I understand, but.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
For some reason they'll use dentists to get into people.
I can give you about four or five stories where
people have gone to dentists and after the dentists appointment,
they're they're physically somewhere else, you know, they got into it,
like for a root canal or whatever. Right, they go
(53:41):
into the dentist office, and then they wake up somewhere
else at a different physical location, Oh my gosh, and
then come to find out they got hypnotized. Hypnotized. That's
different than than counseling. That's when they intentionally go into
(54:02):
your brain and intentionally you know, do bad things. So
they'll they'lp uh hypnotize these people. Two, they'll put personalities
into them with like with killing and so now you know,
(54:24):
then they'll they'll rape the women and and or you know,
abuse the boys. But it's usually the women because they
can take advantage of them.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
How do they do that in a session, like if
if they got patience there.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
And they're they're just they're just good.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I know that, you know, we said movies on that,
so I can understand watching the you know, like you
said about predictive programming. We see it right in the
movies and uh you know where they're having a you know,
uh hold on my calls and and you wonder, you know,
maybe that does that's how it, you know, it happens.
You don't realize that they didn't schedule anybody else that day.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
It happens, you know, and and they will I'll hypnotize them.
And now this person is already h implanted with you know,
a personality that they're that they can bring up at
any time.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
Wow, that's it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
It's crazy. It's true.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
I know, I know, because like I said, enough people
come to me that uh said they were brought into
certain situations and uh, wow, well we we.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Wanted people be aware of this.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
But uh, in the last few minutes, can you, you know,
chime us chime in on the hope for the victim
and is there even hope for the practitioner.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
There's hope for everybody, and we say that. I said
at the start of the broadcast, you have to really
want it. And even if you are an SRRA survivor
and you've gone through the whole, you know, the whole
lifetime of this, there's there is hope Jesus, even though
(56:04):
you don't feel it, even though you've never seen it,
even though you've never been treated by anybody, Jesus truly
does love you. Psalm one, verse three simply says this,
I'm paraphrasing. He came to heal our broken minds and
(56:24):
bind up all the wounds, and that scripture is true.
He can do it. He has, he has what it
takes to pull it out, and he can do it
for you. He wants to do it for you, but
you have to really want it. There is absolutely, there
is hope, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (56:46):
If anybody that's out there doesn't have to be in despair,
they can seek scriptures, but they might need a guidance,
right they might need you or somebody.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
That it's almost impossible to do on your own.
Speaker 2 (56:58):
How do you find these people?
Speaker 3 (57:00):
How they find I mean, I wanted you to give
your contact information, but I know that you can only
handle a certain amount of people. You know, you can
handle the whole listening in the whole world that's listening
to this or whatever.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
But but like, is there other places.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
That they can go to? Is there you know who
they should they seek out?
Speaker 2 (57:19):
Well?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
You you know, I would just say start googling, of course,
and interview them. Ask them some questions. Ask what they're
Ask what their method is, what do they do, what's
their time frame? What's their success rate? Are they do
they scream and yell? You know like this. You have
(57:43):
to ask these types of questions and then maybe have
just meet and greet with them. I like to do
a meet and greet with people if possible, just to
just to say hi. Because what you have to do
because s a rate survivor doesn't trust anybody, and rightly,
so okay, it's you know, they don't trust anybody, so
(58:06):
they have to trust that counselor or the person they're
going to. So just meet with them, just talk to him,
just say hi, my name's you know, my name's uh,
you know, Jane Doe. And just like this, just a
just a simple meet and greet.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
I would would encourage that it's tough.
Speaker 3 (58:25):
And if they really want and they and they come
to Christ, they they he will guide them. I'm sure
he would help. You know, they say, uh, you know,
Christ is there. He'll he'll heal you, he'll take everything away.
Well that's true, but sometimes he directs us to people
because we have these physical things that aren't.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
Just going away.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
You know, like when you have a broken finger, you're
not going to say, Lord, you can make this better.
Yes I can, but I'm going to lead you to
people that could put a brace on it or whatever.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
It's nice.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Doctor's practical that he you know, does it that way.
But he will lead people that are honestly seeking him
to lead them to the person that can.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Help absolutely one hundred percent. You know, get you got
to really want it. Ask God to connect you to
the to the person he wants to connect you with,
and he will. He will.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
You know, why don't you tell people how to connect
with you and you know where they can find your book.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Sure. My website is Randy Goodwin dot org. Lots of
information on there. There's a YouTube link. I got lots
of free videos on YouTube, training videos. You can connect
with me on my website. I do have a book
on Amazon. Just look under like Randy Goodwin or just
(59:47):
SRA Survivors Mind Control Programming and it will come up
and yeah, you can just you can send me a
note if you want to. It would be great.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
That sounds great, Randy. This has been.
Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Really informative and I appreciate you being out there for
people and being out there to let us know what
there is and what's.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Going on and that there's hope. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Thank you for having me, Jim, I appreciate it. God
bless you you too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Thanks a lot
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