Yellowstone - S01E07/08 - A Monster Is Among Us/The Unravelling: Part 1 (recap & review)

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Episode Transcript

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This is a Bramble Jam podcast.Welcome to John Dutton, must I,

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or welcome back to John Dutton mustGie? I feel like we need to
start welcoming people back right and tostop assuming that people are like, what
episode should I start with the onewhere they're discussing discussing episode seven to eight.
My name is Justin Kirkland. I'myour host. I'm here with my
co host and fail fellow, DaleEarnhart fan Daniel Thompson Three to the Sky

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Baby Three to the Sky were havinga conversation before we started recording about the
importance of Dale Earnhart and sweet Danielhad the nerve to ask me if I
remembered where I was when it happened, as if I had the ability to
not remember where I was. Well, to be fair, and I did
offense that just surely taken and rightfully. So I'm really sorry East Tennessee native.

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I should never have asked that question. In my head, I apparently
was eighteen when it happened. Ithought I was like fifteen or fourteen when
it happened, and then I thoughtyou were seven or eight years younger,
and so I'm like, maybe atfive or six, he wasn't like he
remembered hearing about it but didn't rememberexactly where it was. But now that
I know the timeline, and Iwas wrong on that. Yeah, that
was a dumb question. And that'son me. I have all these like

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famous deaths like seared into my brain, like Dale Earnhart was on there.
I actually like vaguely remember the Dianadeath, oh, because I remember my
mama and my my mom were likedevastated and I was like, oh my
gosh, it's this like a familyfriend, Like that's I remember that being
their reaction. But like Diana MichaelJackson, Whitney Houston, I was slightly

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intoxicated in the passenger's seat of acar and I screamed it out the window.
Wow. Yeah, so slightly intoxicated. I remember not knowing who Princess
Diana was when she'd like when shedied. I think I was in middle
school and like we don't, likeI don't. I could not list the
family tree the royals for my life, like couldn't do it. And someone

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was like, Princess Diana died andI literally said who, Like I literally
was like who, who? LikeI didn't, I didn't. I didn't
know that information. I had nolike context for that. I just I
know that makes me sound like aterrible person, but I didn't obviously obviously
a tragedy. I just didn't,you know, had no idea who who

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they were. You were a teenager, right, I think so was that
that was mid nineties, right,Yeah, yeah it was that was around
that, Yeah, ninety seven apparentlypretty ser Aaron told me ninety seven.
So I was thirteen fourteen, bornin eighty three, So yeah, I
just didn't grown up in South Carolina, we weren't really crazy about the Royals.
We didn't like you know, I'velearned more watching The Crown than I

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ever knew, and I don't thinkthat that's fact, but I've learned more
anyway. You know, The Crown'sreally sneaky because a lot of times I'm
like, oh my gosh, Ican't believe that's crazy that that happened.
But like I firmly believe that hadhappened, and they made it up,
and then something crazy it'll happen onthe show and I'm like, that didn't
happen. I'll look it up andI'm like, yeah, Like the brother
Dicky was like blown up on aboat. Spoiler alert, Yeah, but

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spoiler. You know, Andrew andI got engaged this year, and for
our engagement photos. I don't usuallysplurge and get like expensive clothes clothing items
because I'm like, this isn't gonnalast forever. But I got a replica
of like the famous sweater that PrincessDiana wore, because I wanted that for

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me, you know, yeah,back at those photos. I want to
remember at thirty three, I asas stupid as I've always been. That's
fantastic. That's a good purchase,justin don't let anybody tell you otherwise.
That's a good purchase. And we'llbe we'll be purchasing something fancy for us
if we get a hundred reviews onthis program, because we're gonna get ourselves.
I don't know if it's going tobe a week's worth of pay for

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everyone in the office, like JimmyStetson is, and we'll get there when
we get there. But I dothink that we're gonna when we get to
one hundred Apple podcast reviews, we'regonna go get us some cowboy hats to
wear just well on our way.Because I was checking the reviews, and
I think like four more came inthis every week we get four or five
more. And here's the thing isis we had a Poco and Lola.

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Poco and Lola left a review andit said, I don't even watch ellistone,
but I love this show. Justinand Dan are intelligent and hysterical.
I look forward to each new episode. Can you believe that? From Paco
and Lola. Paco and Lola's reviewwas nice, but do you want to
hear a review that was great?I would love to from Jay and Ice

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five. They said absolutely love thepodcast in the banter and then in a
parenthetical in Justin's voice, that's right, which means a lot to me because
growing up I got a lot ofum miss Kirk Glinton. I'm like,
well, so thank you so muchfor whoever is helping undo a little bit
of that. I was going toread that one because I wanted you to

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hear it, because you're not abig fan of listening to yourself, which
is unfortunate because you got a greatvoice, but also because my voice wasn't
wasn't injury, So I mean,you know, that's fine, Jay and
Ice five, do what you haveto do. Um, but know that
I'm hurt, and I think thatshould speak for itself. Um, but

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please leave us a review, especiallyif it's a five star room. Even
if you don't have time to writesomething kind, Just throw a five,
Throw a five run there. You'llbe good to go. Share it,
talk about it with your friends.Tell us when you remember Dale Earnhart dying,
you remember Princess Diana dying, whenyou remember the bear on Yellowstone dying?

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All good in memoriums, all allsolid here, We've got a good
in memorium week. We do guess, go ahead and get started. But
before we do, in case thisreally is you for some reason, clicked
and said seven eight this is theone. Yeah, we want to give
you a little rundown of what wedo here. We start with a little
bit of hey, how you doing, get to know you and catch up

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on the week. Then we dorecaps of two episodes that we have watched
rewatched throughout the week, because thisis not our first rodeo. Then we
do a little bunkhouse table talk wherewe talk about our favorite moments from the
episodes or the moments that made usscratch our head and go Taylor Sheridan,

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what were you doing? And then, of course, because we honor those
we've lost, we have the inmemorium, and because apparently we think that
we have this power, we decidewhether they go to heaven or help.
That's right. It's a fun time. It's a fun time. So I'm
going to give you a little recapof episode seven and then we'll get to
chatting. I love the first recap. We open this episode with a group

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of tourists who have abandoned their tourbus to step onto the Dutton Land and
see a bear. It's not goingto end well. A well dressed John
sees this and is immediately ticked off, so he gets out of his truck
and tells everyone to get back onyour bus, but they won't. He
shoots his gun into the sky whenone of the tourists says that John should
share all this land with other people, and then replies to him, this

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as America, we don't share ourland here. Cool John continues on his
way to the Stockman dinner and givesa speech, but you can see he's
pretty upset when neither Beth to hisright nor Jamie too is left to join
him at the plated dinner. He'sattending Jamie's excuses that he's been campaigning,
which is code for developing an intimaterelationship with that woman named Christina where it

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was beth Tho just having flashbacks towhen she had her first period on Christmas,
followed by her mom explaining that she'sa strong woman, but she's going
to have to turn into the manmost men weren't meant to be. You
know, casual stuff. You tellyou're ten year old who's having this giant
life change on Christmas? No less. All the while, in the present,

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Monica is having a craniotomy following thatnasty fall last week. No one
is taking it well, but especiallyTate, who goes full wordal combat on
a nurse who is trying to calmhim down. Monica's papa comes to the
hospital and sages her, sets offa firelarm in the process, and ultimately
she wakes up from the fire alarm, not sure from the stage, probably
speaking of the hospital, John's cancer'sback baby. As he's leaving, he

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sees Tate and brings him back hometo the ranch because he wants to help
take care of him. While Monic'sin the hospital, but the drama continues
re hung tap because as John triesto cook him food, he begins to
WinCE and John is back in majorpain and he asks Beth to babysit Tate
while he hobbles upstairs and throws ahblood. And even worse, a man

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comes to serve John Dutton papers andJamie nearly shoots him because no one can
help themselves in this episode. Ohand that bear from earlier, The bear
comes back. Not only does hemanage to treat Jimmy, but then later
he chases two tours off of acliff, and when Rip tries to help
them as they're dangling there for theirlives, they both fall to their deaths
and Rip has to shoot the bear. Good night Bear, And that was

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the end of episode seven. Thegood Night Bear is a nice touch,
a nice well done, well done. Why don't we bunkhouse table talk this
a little bit? Tell me,tell me what your thoughts on the episode
were. What were your standout moment? This is when I think I've started
to like verge on my thoughts whenI first watched it versus when I'm rewatching

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it. Like for the first sixepisodes, I feel like my first time
through and my second time through we'reboth sheer exhilaration. And now in seven
and eight, which we'll get toa little bit, I find myself like
more relating to different characters and pullingfor different characters and and and seeing just

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like the sheer absurdity of the powerthat they're that the Duttons are trying to
like hold on to. Like I, I you know, I remember the
first time I saw the scene whereCosts out there in his tuck shooting the
thing in the air and he's like, get on the bus and blah blah
blah. And this time I'm like, and I the first time I was

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pulling for him, Yeah, getoff his lands. You don't know any
better. This is his land.And this time through, I found myself
much more inclined to say, Man, this is crazy. He's crazy.
He's not his faculties are not allthere. He's power drunk. And it

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was almost like watching a different televisionshow. And So while I enjoyed eight
a lot more than seven, becauseseven feels like it is all over the
map. I feel like we arestretched really thin, and seven I find
myself like having different allegiances, soto speak, Does that make sense?

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No, that definitely makes sense.And I think that one of the things
that hopped out to me. Insteadof making a short declarative statement, I'm
gonna make it on a long story. I grip in Eastonnessee, which is
right near this place called Kaid's Cove, and you can take like a loop
around the Smoky Mountain National Park andsee all kinds of animals. And it
seems like once a year growing upthat there was some story about tourists that

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surrounded a bear and got attacked bya bear, and if you lived close
enough, you were like, damn, they killed the bear, because the
bear's fault that it gets cornered.So I had forgotten these little scenes along
the way in Yellowstone. So whenJohn hopped out, I was like,
yes, like he's telling these peopleget away from the bear. The bear's

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going to attack you, and that'swhere I thought it was. But then
it immediately went to John being like, you're on my land. That's right,
has very little to do with thebear. And I think this is
like, you know, we're we'regood boys, and this is a fun
time podcast. But like when whenyou rewatch a show like this, it's

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funny to me how much the toneof something can change opinion of the time
that we're in and like ornery,like dude with a gun who has a
problem with like people on his property. It just like tastes different in twenty
three. Yeah, and I thinkit really helps underline like, oh,

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this dude's not stable, because likeit really does highlight And I don't know
if this is intentional or not,but I think it highlights like the vastness
of all of this land and youhave a dozen people out on it about
to get eaten by a bear,and you're like, uh no, this
is that perfectly white campus. Getthe like get the like tiny little like

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flicks of paint off of it.Yeah, It's it's crazy to me.
It really does highlight that, likethis is a this is a family that
never quite had all their marbles inone area. Well, and to your
points, there are characters even thatI find myself relating to more, you

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know, like the people that arein Jamie's ear telling him that this campaign
is more important than his family,or or this lesbian couple that's in town
to cover this story, and likethese people who I found to be in
the way of John Dutton and hisfamily the first time I watched this,

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this time, I'm like, man, we could have given them some more
some more time, or maybe thiswould have been a good battle for for
for John to fight instead of justrifling through plotlines so incredibly quickly. I
can I completely agree. It's uh, there's We've talked about this a couple

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of times just in our first fewrecap episodes. But there's there's a lot
going on that probably could be pairedout a little bit, like pick pick
and shoes. And then there's somelike really brilliant scenes. One of my
favorite scenes from this episode is followingBeth's terrible flashbacks. I got the impression

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that she was getting on the horseto try and buck herself off in the
same way that her mom was.Huh. Oh, I didn't think about
that. I saw a horse.Is almost like a public suicide attempt.
Interesting, uh. And then Walkertook it in this complete different direction and

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kind of walked Beth through these differentlike holes on the horse and like what
that might communicate to the horse.And what I picked up from that is
like the tighter that it was.She said, you're scared, and then
she said you want to hurt me, and it's almost as if like she
wanted to hurt herself. I don'tknow. I had a couple of ports

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of Bourbons, so I might Well, I will say this too far.
I feel like there's a lot moreclear symbolism and structure in and Daddy Taylor's
riding then in the first season thanthere is in season five. So I
don't think you're reading too much intoit. Because these episodes tend to have

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bookends, they tend to have somethingthat they're trying to say to you that
is a microcosm of the show asa whole, and they're doing it really,
really well, So I don't havean issue with that. For me,
I am really liking Walker's character alot now, Yeah, like really
enjoying him, pulling for him,understanding, and we'll get to this more

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in episode eight, the moral battlethat's going on inside of that character.
The first time I watched this show, I was like, Walkers should be
taken to the train station immediately.He's nuts but trouble, And this time
I'm here for it. I'm herefor what this dude is doing and his
character. So that's a huge departurefor me. I also think that it's

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really interesting that you have this personwho is who is fresh out of jail,
and it has this kind of storied, spotty past. And that's why
we go back last week and hesaid that he murdered that guy, and
I, Jokingley was like, nomanslaughter. But now I think that's even

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more important. Yeah, you're right, because manslaughter is because I was a
legal eager. Manslaughter is a booboo, whereas murder in most cases is like
a ha ha a boo boo versusha. But I got you forever,
you know, that's right. Um, So I think it starts becoming clear

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in these two episodes that we're discussingthis week that like Walker's booboo was a
booboo, Like he doesn't want toI gotta quit saying boo boom. He
didn't mean to do it, andhe is not somebody that wants to commit
more crimes. He doesn't want tobreak the law. He doesn't He sees
like a distinct difference between right andwrong, and I think that he has

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more empathy than a lot of thesecharacters. But I also think that it
highlights like they went to prison andplucked somebody out because they felt like they
could control them, and that ultimatelyshows like they don't really think those people
have much worth either. That's exactlyright, Yeah, if you that was
my big takeaway the second time isyou went and found someone who had no

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choice but to do what you said. That's what you think you found when
you went to prison, and turnsout you got more than you bargained for,
which was fantastic. And before weswitched to episode eight, I do
want to point out on the Monicaside of things. Hey, I'm all
for tradition and healing, but ifyou're going to burn some sage in a

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hospital, I listen, I don'tdo you. But setting off a fire
alarm in a hospital building is gonnacause a lot of panic for people that
don't need panic. So let someoneknow ahead of time to do that.
I just thought of all the timesfor the Grandpa to be like, it's

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just stage get over it. Well, you gotta know that there are fire
alarms in there. And we gota bunch of people that their hearts are
being monitored that now think that theplace is on fire and there's tubes in
them and they can't leave. Seemlike a seem like a bad, a
rookie move there. One. Maybeit's just me and I'm not understanding it,
but it seemed like a rookie moveto me. I feel like I

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have somewhere between like fifty and sixtypercent of my extended family would light a
cigarette in the hospital as long asthey're not on the oxygen tank. Then
yeah, only twenty percent of themare. And yeah, I just like
I don't There's something. There's somethingstrangely like what's the word that I'm Usually

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I feel like I'm stumbling all overmy words and I'm just kind of like
using them incorrectly, and this weekI can't find any of of them at
all. There's something like very familiarto me about somebody like saging a hospital
room like I'm interested. I know, I know that sounds bizarre, but
like back home, I feel likeif I walked into like the hospital and

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just walked down the aisle, Ior walked down the aisle. Nope,
walked down the hall, walk downthe hospital aisle, walk down the hospital
island. I got married at thehospital. A sudden the topic has changed.
Yeah, yeah, your dreams tonightare gonna be crazy. No,
I feel like I could just likepeek in any given room and something crazy
like that would happen, like somebodylining up a Marlboro read somebody like saging

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a room. I would just belike, yeah, that makes sense.
So for some reason, and Idon't know what this says about me,
it didn't even phase me when hedid that, Yeah, because I'm like,
yeah, of course he's saging Monicain the hospital. Duh. Where
else would you do it? Elsewherein the hospital. I do want to
touch on this as well. Thereare times in storytelling where I feel like
things get like blopped in, justkind of like wopped in, Yeah,

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blopped in, got it? Youknow? Yeah, I'm gonna phrase bloped
in blopped in, where like theytease out a storyline a little bit.
But do you feel like we're beinga little fast and loose with this cancer?
Yes? That that is if Ihave one criticism of season one,
because I think it's might be thebest season. I'm fascinated to see if
they can do better than this.It's they're rifling through a lot of plots

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and the cancer plot line. Whata way to go about this to to
say he's recovered, to say it'sit's back and then for him to be
already here again. It seems likewe're really pushing for as much drama as
we can. And I don't knowif that's something like Paramount wanted to be
like you've got to have more ofthis, like you have to make it

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more soapy or what have you.But it does seem like we're being We're
playing very fast and loose there.And it's not like cancer where it's like,
oh, we're gonna have to startchemo. It's like I'm gonna go
home and throw up blood. Yeah, We're in like a real dire situation.
So I just I wasn't sure ifI was being too critical of John

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Dutton's journey. But but once again, if one they do a great job
of letting you know, if oneperson is allowed to be Beth Dutton as
an adult, it is Beth Dutton. Um you know what I mean,
Like it's they they are not uh, they are heavy handed with Look at
all she had to go through,um and and that's why she is the

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way she is today. No oneelse gets that, um because you know,
Casey seems to find fights wherever hegoes. He doesn't get near that,
that level of backstory that explains theactions that that Beth does. Beth
gets it better than any gets itmore than anybody else does. It's because

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Beth is the most important, becausethe bravest of us. Yeah, the
strongest speak before we go to episodeeight. One final question. I have
terrible upper body strength. It's beensomething that's made me sad my entire life.
Do you think if you fell offa cliff that you could hold yourself
there? And if so, forhow long? I mean, you're on

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a rope there? Right, yougot the rope? You're not? Oh
no, he was just hold theywere just holding on. Oh, you're
right, and then Rip gives himthe rope. Um nothing the side of
a cliff holding on my life asat stake, five minutes. Five minutes
would be a match for me.Yeah, that's a that's asking a lot.

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I think your adrenaline takes over andyou can do more than you think
you can do. I can't imagineholding on for longer than five minutes.
That would be that would be aherculean effort. Five minutes. Um added
curiosity. I didn't know you becauseyou played sports and I played five of
them in high school. Yeah whatyeah what did you play? Tennis?
Golf, baseball, basketball? AndI ran across country Yeah, I know,

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right, learning something new every day. They let me play tennis and
golf. They let me play tennisand golf at the same time. I
quit baseball tenth. I love baseball, but I wasn't very good, and
I quit baseball to play tennis andgolf because they needed people. And I'd
like had been playing tennis all mylife because it was cheap. In the
small town we lived in, therewas a court right by our house and
my parents could go out there andit was cheap to play tennis. It

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wasn't a country club like. Itwas just middle of nowhere Hopkins, South
Carolina. You know, free tenniscourt. Um, so I played a
lot. I played all that inuh my my high school didn't have a
football team, so you know thereyou have so many sports. I immediately
feel defensive, that's right. Yeah, yeah, so we would we would
have justin we Yeah. If youI have a from my senior yearbook,

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they did this thing where they werelike, uh, they were taking picture
of friendship groups we call them clicks, and my friend yeah, my friend
group was not all of the athletes. I was very friendly with them,
but I was on the academic teamjustin uh and and and uh my picture

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was with all those all those jokerswe all like would go on academic team
trips and stuff, and uh andmy picture and my friend Like, I
felt like I was friendly with everyoneand really didn't have an enemy in the
school. But I hung out withit like I like, I don't know,
I felt more at home there forsome reason. I love sports,
but and I coached basketball still thisday. But my friend group in high

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school was not really the jocks.That's not who I really hung out with.
So we we're gonna have a longerconversation about this at a different times.
Yeah, I'm stunned. That's right. We got a lot. Yeah,
we can unpack it here. Butyou know, I guess it's a
Yellowstone podcast. A Yellowstone podcast.So just in case you guys were looking
for a final answer, Uh,Dan is being humble. He can hang

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in there for at least twenty thirtyminutes. I mean, it depends on
that ang there two minutes. Yeah, I don't know, man, I
just cuddle up with the bear andhope for the best. Yeah, yeah,
you just do the best you canthere. Speaking of the bear,

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I've got to recap for episode eight. If you want it, I would
love to hear it. So anepisode eight weeks the bear is dead.
Sorry, the bear is back,but the bear is dead. That's right.
Episode episode Jay and I five saysthey love your voice. Wait what

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was the what was the word froma couple of weeks ago? Uh?
Squalor and Squander that we messed up. I don't squalid to this opportunity.
That's right, nailed it, um. Episode eight opens to an entire family
getting bludgeoned. I'm just gonna leaveit there, and that's the redcap no.
Episode eight opens to an entire familygetting bludgeoned. As one does,

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we cut to a baby Rip inthe corner, who has had the heck
beat out of him. He wakesup and sees this carnage before bashing his
father's head in with an iron skillet. And I just really want it's a
visceral opening to an episode, soI really can't understate. We see a

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dead child, we see Rip beatento a pulp, and then we heard
this man stabbing a woman over andover before Rip bashes his head in with
a cast iron skillet. Cut toYellowstone. We love an origin story.
John and the Yellowstone Gang find Ripand Shambles all these years back, and

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that is how Rip joins the Yellowstonefarm. John gives him sandwich, and
you know, you have to paya big price for things, as if
Rip hasn't already paid a gigantic price. And then we cut to the opening
credits and the price. Could youI know you're in the middle of You're
in, You're just flowing right now. But do you watch the whole theme
every time we rewatch these or doyou skip that single time? You watch

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it every time? Every single time? And if we get to two hundred,
uh, like subscribes all that jazzor ratings, reviews, that's the
one. I just keep saying words. We have over two hundred subscribes,
Justin. I want to be clear, I don't I don't know how these
things work. You know, I'mreally just the face. Yeah, um,

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I will do my full interpretive dance. Oh I do this like everybody
listening, please go and rate andreview the podcast immediately. I skip it
every time I did. I alwayslisten once. It's a minute long.
Justin I have a life to live. It's fifty eight seconds. That's a

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long bas camp. It's like it'severything that I'm missing every single day.
Anyways, Sorry, go ahead.Continue in the present, those tourists get
found along with the bear, andthe authorities are not vibing with rip story
so much so that they come andtake his rifle and then have him come

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along horseback on an investigation as theylook into it further. As the warden
is investigating, they ride along andRip is trying to be chill and point
out that there's a horsefly on thewarden's horse's butt, and she gets rude
and says, no, don't touchmy effing horse, and then the horsefly
bites the horse and the whole thingnearly kills her. Why does no one

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listen to Rip? We end upfinding this woman and peled on a fence
post. Because this episode is nuts. I do want to just go ahead
and say one of my favorite episodesof the entire Oh, I love it
so much. Even then, shewon't give Rip her gun to kill the
horse who is angled up and saidfence and if the horse gets up,
the woman is like da dead onarrival with no other option, Rip pulls

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that woman off the ground with afreaking fence post still inside her. Because
no one has any chill on thisshow. She lives, and presumably we
just don't hear from her anymore.In other news, Monica is in pet
and she's recovering. She's learning towalk again, but she tells her badpa
that she wants to move in withhim with Tate, but he insists that
she belongs with her husband. Thingsaren't going so great for Casey either,

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because, as it turns out,their house has been ransacked. Because Casey
can't have a single good day.When he starts asking who did it,
one of Casey's ride hand men saystreasure hunters apparently. And I wouldn't need
you to help me fill in thatblank because I don't quite remember what those
bones were. Monica talks to Caseyand says that John is already bad news

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in their lives in this short amountof time they've been back in the Dutton
Fold. She tells Casey that heneeds to leave. He finally admits that
he killed He killed Monica's brother afterher brother killed his, and with that,
Monica tells Casey that her allegiance isto their son and that this has

(31:17):
all started falling apart because they're backin John's life, which doesn't quite make
sense to me because didn't she getdecked at her own school. Anyway,
Casey, a magnet for crime,goes to the gas station and runs into
a man who needs money, andeventually they get into it and Casey beats
the hell out of him. Elsewhere, Dan and she Rainwater are continuing to

(31:38):
work together to try and upend Johnstronghold on the Yellowstone and the Valley,
But the one person who is quysstill clear that his plans will not succeed
is Beth Dutton. She runs intoDan's wife and sets off to corrupt her.
She finally takes her home and meetsDan outside while she's smoking his cigarette.
Dan makes his face and Beth's like, of course, I wouldn't smoke

(31:59):
in your living room. But thenDan goes inside and sees that Beth has
I guess, rented her assistant outso that Dan's wife can cheat on him.
Then Beth tells Dan that she's goingto buy enough shares in his company
to end up on the board,and it's all falling apart for our good
friend Dan, and just because wehave to cover our bases, let's talk

(32:21):
about Jamie real Quick, who hasat a guest spot on Good Morning Bozeman
and is fully committed to this attorneygeneral race. His campaign manager, Christina,
has a weird square off with reportersSara and Wynn, who hasn't been
super clear why she's so dogged toget the dirt on the Duttons. But
you know we'll get to that aswell. Doesn't matter because the race might
be short lived. John tells Jamieto withdraw from the attorney general race.

(32:45):
Jamie loses his mind and fights John, but then John sucker punches him,
and when Jamie retaliates, John putshim on his butt again. Jamie retreats
to campaign headquarters, but Christina makesit clear he doesn't need John to pull
this victory off. Didn't they havesex? Because the workplace is what MESSI
And that's the end of episode eight. What a time, What a time

(33:08):
to be alive? Well done,Well done man, This is good stuff,
so much to talk about. Butwhat I'd really like to open up
Bunko's table talk with is what doyou think the viewership is like for Good
Morning Bowsman? Oh through the roofman. Of all the good mornings in

(33:29):
Montana, after Billings, of courseBozeman would be the one with the biggest
audience. I mean he's not toogood Morning Billings yet. He's not there,
but he's working his way up.Let's be very clear. It's not
good Morning Billings. It's get upbill Get up Billings. Yeah Billings.
Yeah, he's not there yet.He's a he's a good morning Bowsman.

(33:51):
He'll get to get up Billings oneof these days. What a time to
be alive. I mean, whenyou can score that spot, you're your
assistant, I'm I mean she deservesher pay at that point. Um,
there's plenty of jokes to be madethere. Um, I'm gonna be yeah,
no, no, no more thanfair. Uh, I would say
this. Uh. This is oneof my favorite episodes of the series,

(34:13):
which it sounds like it's yours too. Um. It is in this episode
that I realize just how close KevinCoster's performance comes to Christian Baila's Batman at
times which I'd never really noticed before, but like the like yeah, like
he gets like it's very similar.Like I never had the chance to thank
you, and you'll never have tolike, he's very very close to that

(34:37):
in some scenes. It's absurd howclose he is to to that whole thing.
I don't like, I didn't,I've never heard it, and then
this time I heard it. Uh. Also, um, the the toxicity
of the Duttons is was more evidenton this watch than the first one.
Um basically brainwashed Rip because they foundhim at a place where he was vulnerable,

(35:04):
so they made him feel a partof something. It's almost like a
cult. Um. And then JohnDutton is just close fists hitting his own
children, which is a move,a move for sure. A lot here,
a lot that is that makes andthe The episode is titled The Unraveling
Part one doesn't say to be continuedat the end, but it is a

(35:27):
part one and things are starting tofly out of control, and that is
when Yellowstone really hits its stride.Love this episode of television from start to
finish. Everybody gets to play andscore in this episode and it works on
all cylinders. For me, whatI really love is I feel like a
lot of times we have Rip comealong and be I don't know, it's

(35:53):
kind of like this like a bigfigure that does like says few things and
like does intend stuff. But whatI really like about this episode is I
think you really get to see ColeHauser like thriving. Yeah, like there's
if you really watch his performance,I think there's such a a sadness and

(36:15):
a loneliness to him and like alittle boy quality that is always there because
like I don't I don't know,I might be drinking the kool aid a
little too hard this week, butlike it's almost like he he kills on
behalf of the Duttons and then hehas this like little glint in his eye

(36:36):
like daddy, are you proud?Which is so messed up. Yeah,
it's so good. It's he doesa really good job. And then all
of that is taken away from himin season five and he's asked to give
a completely different performance. But butyeah, I think you're one right.
Cole Hauser is doing excellent work here, excellent work, he really is.

(36:58):
Meanwhile, I think that there area few episodes throughout the Cannon of Yellowstone
where Beth slash Kelly Riley really getsto like flex and have these like beautiful
dramatic moments. But I think onthe up and up, when she thrives

(37:19):
is when she's given like a touchof chaos. That's right. Even the
most dramatic, like well acted performancesfrom Kelly Riley, who is impeccable at
what she does, Yes, comesfrom moments that are tied up in a
little bit of chaos. Which iswhy I really wasn't super impressed with her
in episode seven, because I feellike it was like very much like melodrama,

(37:42):
like remember Mama being a jerk.The flashback scene does a lot of
the work there too. The flashbackscene does the work. But I think
that when you have her in thesemoments just doing the most maniacal stuff,
like seeing this woman on the streetand her like gently being interested in your
assistant, and then Beth thing likeI know what I'm gonna do. Take

(38:07):
it from here, Like she's notjust ruining Dan's life, She's ruining this
woman's life, yeah, who isclearly not well. And then she's taking
her assistant and it's like, youknow how you're gonna get further in the
world, You're gonna sleep with whoI tell you to sleep with? She
pimps her assistant. Now, that'sright, And I think it really just
goes to show like how twisted sheis in the head. Yeah, and

(38:27):
I think a lesser actress would notbe able to pull it off, but
she does. She pulls off crazyextremely well. I do think this is
one of those episodes for her whereit's not just an act you know what
I mean, Like the Beth Duttoncharacter. Some of what she does is
for attention. It is because ofwho she is and where she comes from.

(38:47):
But this is one of those episodeswhere literally no one is watching.
You're gonna buy the shares from DanJenkins anyway, This is just because you
want to do it. And thatis era thing. That's a terrifying proposition
there, big mean, big meanindeed, And I do want to say

(39:07):
this justin we were a little quickon the draw when it comes to the
golf course because we did see moreof the golf course today. And you
know, when we're wrong, we'rewrong. I thought it never came up
again, so did you? Wewere incorrect. It one hundred percent did
come up again in this episode withChief Rainwater on the first tea when they're

(39:29):
talking business before they play eighteen holesof golf together in silence. In fairness
to golf. Usually I kind ofglaze over a little bit when it's there.
The last time that I hold agolf club, my dad took me
to driving range when I was likesixteen, and I swung back with the
golf club and I hit one ofthose like flimsy plastic white chairs. Yeah,

(39:52):
except it had been sitting outside forprobably twenty years, so it just
like exploded. Yeah. Dad tookit from me and he was like,
oh no, and that was it. And I just haven't touched a golf
club sent. I could tell byyour form that you were ready to be
there, though I listen at bythe time you're sixteen. That's kind of

(40:14):
on Papa Kirkland for taking you.I think at that point at sixteen,
if you don't want to go tothe driving range, you shouldn't have to
go to the driving range, right. I see. I've always thought if
if we're gonna like start kind ofshoehorning me into a sport, like I
have the body for football, inthe face for Hollywood, choose one.
You know you play a little tennis, though you told me you played tennis.

(40:38):
You play a little I got aracket on the wall over here.
Yeah, I was in a kickballleague for a while. I don't sell
yourself short. That was I betthat was a drinking league though. Those
are the best, the drinking kickballleagues. Yeah yeah, I mean,
come on, that's your living lifelarge. That's like pre kids for me,
like pre kids, like kick drinkkickball league. Let's go absolutely early

(41:01):
to mid twenties. That's right.Yeah, yeah, it'll be fun.
You get talked about that's right,Yeah, you get talked about it.

(41:27):
Back to yells the real quick.My favorite scene of this episode speak the
hat. It is the hat?Is the hat? It's it isn't the
hat of the hat? Second?Listen, the first time I watched this
show justin I hated Jimmy, Ihated Walker and this run excuse me the
just just one percent someone just triedto choke me. Uh uh in this

(41:52):
run through, in this reiteration,rewatch, I love the hat scene.
I am questioning how much that hatcost or how much the Yellowstone Bunkhouse is
getting paid. If it took sixpeople's salary for a whole week to buy
it, that is a week,that's right. Yeah, apparently, because

(42:14):
the most expensive Steps and I couldfind was two thousand dollars and I get
the feeling they didn't buy that one, but they bought probably an eight hundred
dollars Hat are they only getting paidone hundred dollars a week? Like' But
that scene is genuinely great and Ididn't respect it the first time through.
But the scene with Walker talking toRip is it for me? Like that

(42:36):
scene is so great. When he'slike, I'm not gonna do anything illegal
and he's like, yeah, youare your way of the brain, he
goes, that's not what that meant. I thought that was about trust,
and he said is about trust.Be goes, that's not what trust means.
It is like, I find myselfpulling for Walker in a way I
never did the first time I watchedthis show. So Jimmy and Walker that

(42:57):
I was wrong. I was wrong, completely wrong about him. They're two
of the bust on the show beforeI give a forty five minute monologue on
the half scene. Of course,the Walker and Rip scene is so important
because I do feel like it's oneof the first times where the show is
signaling a split in morals. Yeah, and it's it's more nuanced than like
good versus Evil, but it stillis good versus evil. Yeah, and

(43:22):
you have this person who is tellingRip, maybe for the first time in
his life, that like truth,goodness, loyalty is not something that has
to be tied to these heinous actsthat he's been told to do his entire
life. Being I don't even thinkit like crosses Rip's mind that it's an

(43:42):
option. Yeah, And I'm adummy because it's not by accident that that
scene is in the episode with thatbegins with Rip's origin, And the first
time I watched it, I watchedit and I was like, Rip's origin
is John Dutton sees a boy whodid the thing even though it's illegal,
and he brings him into the foldbecause that's what the Duttons do. And

(44:05):
then later Rip's got to pass thatlesson on to Walker. Wrong. Oh
not even close. John duns onopportunity being Rip to find other opportunities,
and Rip being the good person thathe intrinsically is found somebody who is also
good. That's exactly right. Imean, you get it, you nailed

(44:28):
it. This show crushes this sceneand this episode is so so good.
And I've never said this. I'mnot a big rewatch guy. I think
you know that I hate rewatching things. I want to watch new things all
the time. But I'm so happywe're doing this. Like this episode was
when I finally was like, I'veenjoyed doing this obviously, and I would
just talk to you to talk toyou. But this episode, I'm like,

(44:51):
man, I've got to rewatch thiswhole series because the first time through
I clearly didn't understand because I'm anidiot, and now I'm starting to get
it. It's fantastic stuff. Nowyou mentioned it. I mean we have
I'm trying to think in the futurea little bit. But also I don't
want to give any spoilers, butlike, so far we have Rip bringing

(45:12):
Jimmy into the Fold and bringing Walkerinto the Fold. Yep is everything that
Rip touches good. Oh, Idon't know they're gonna bring the kid in
obviously. I think one of myleast favorites does not Rip's choice correct correct,
And I'm wondering what does that meanhe. I hate the people that

(45:36):
argue that Rip is a good guyand I and the reason I hate that
is because I think Rip does havea conscience, and I think he the
trauma has has kept him from understandingwhat actually is right versus what the Duttons
say is right, but let's notforgive this guy's actions like he's attached to
a on a string. To JohnDutton, he still does terrible things.

(46:00):
But Rip is the most morally complexcharacter that lives on the Dutton ranch.
I would say that statement, Okay, let's play a little game really quickly.
I want to go ahead and justlike shout out the last two things
that I had on my list.Obviously, the hat seems wonderful, but
there really isn't too much in thisessay. Will Yeah, it was just
really it was lovely that super sweethat and everybody, Yeah, it was

(46:20):
a nice It was a nice moment. And also the wolves come out and
eat the bear at the end.Yep. But what I want to present
to you is I have this theory. It's like a matrix theory of people
in general. Here for you'll getyou'll get off this podcast and you'll start
doing it with people in your head, and you're gonna love it. I
love it. I think that thereare four groups of people generally in the
world. Okay, they are intrinsicallygood people who do good things. They're

(46:45):
intrinsically good people who do bad things. They're intrinsically bad people who do good
things, and then they're intrinsically badpeople who do bad things. Yeah,
it's like a punnet square from biology. I don't want to gaze. Yeah,
oh I remember that. Oh thegenes. Yeah yeah, recessive dominant

(47:05):
traits. Everybody's got the different Yeah, just here to throw a little biology
at you this morning. So Ithink so an example is, I think
Taylor Swift is a bad person whodoes good things. I love that.
I would buy that for sure.I'd agree with that statement. He has
bad tendencies, but she does goodthings. Yes, I think that Rip

(47:28):
is a good person who does badthings. But at the end of the
day, like all those and Ithink that's what makes like this theory complicated
because like these things don't cancel outeach other or weigh each other out,
and they don't exist in a vacuum. You still are responsible for your actions,
and so that I think it doesmake it fascinating because it Rip is.

(47:49):
I would agree with that Rip ashe starts off doing the right thing,
and then it's it's like an inceptionwhere Leonardo DiCaprio spins the top to
get his wife to wake up.John Dutton spends the top. John Dutton
comes in and he he at apoint of most vulnerability for RIP, he
spends the top and the top he'sspinning is what I say is right.

(48:14):
You want to do what's right.What I say is right. So if
if RIP deconstructs his relationship, nowwe're real deep. If RIP deconstructs his
relationship on the Dutton ranch, atthe bottom of all of that that he
takes off about property and land andpride and trust, he's gonna find that
what John Dutton says is always rightand everything has come from that, and

(48:37):
that does make him a good guy. You disagree, I'm gonna take him
one step further. Let's go,let's go, let's go. Now's the
time, let's go, Inception,everybody, we're going to sleep one more
time. I don't even think thatit starts with John Dutton. I think
it starts with the fact that hegrew up in a home where he got
it. Can I see the sword, go for it, go for
it? Where he got the shipbeat out? Yes, his dad.

(49:00):
And I think that you're just taughtas as a as a child who suffers
abuse that like you aren't worth it. Yes, So like I don't even
think that he would be I mean, obviously he wouldn't be with the Duttons
if it weren't for his family,because they would be alive. But I
think it goes so much deeper becauselike Rip is one of those good eggs

(49:21):
that was always faded to be crackedbecause he was conditioned from a backstory that
I don't fully know. U.He was conditioned to never think that he
deserved any better than he what hegot. Yeah, it's so dark and
sad it is. It's a differentkind of abuse. John Dutton is also
abusing Rip, but it's a differentkind of abuse because he's he is basically

(49:45):
a hit man for the Dutton family, and that's a that is just that's
traumatic. It's you know, it'snot as visceral as your own dad beating
you, but it is as traumaticand it is still abuse. And that's
what makes him easily the most moremorally complex character on the that lives on
the ranch. I would say,that's right, man, We're doing it

(50:07):
today in the biology uh trauma.We're we're really we're covering all the bases
today. When when you say trauma, are you talking about me reacting to
you playing five sports. No,no, no, no, once again,
we'd have been friends, justin I'mtelling you. I know that you
think I'm crazy. We would have. I've never trusted Jock on that,

(50:29):
ever trusted Jock in me. Threeto the sky. We'll always have three
though. That's that's my sport.That's right. Put me in a car
and send me on a track fivehundred times. I'll see you on the
other side. Um, we onlyhave one segment left. It's our in
memorium, and it's a very importantin memorium because we have RiPPs Dad,

(50:50):
yep. And we're gonna go aheadand say he goes to three. Well,
there it is. We have RiPPs, mom and brother who I'm I'm
just gonna assume that a rip gothis good goodness from somewhere. So rest
in peace, sweet angels in heaven. That's right. Um. The two
Asian tourists who fell off the cliffand one who didn't want to live without

(51:16):
And the way I took that ishe didn't want to live without his wife.
You didn't take it that way.So she falls and he looks and
rips got him and holds out hishand, and he looks down at his
wife and he looks up at RIPand he looks at his wife. He
looks up a RIP and then hejust lets go, So, which is
like a very honorable thing like that, they're both going to heaven. They're

(51:40):
both going to heaven. But Iput my own lens on it, and
I feel like if it were youand me, well they would be the
same, because I can't live withoutyou if it were. So in the
time out in this situation, you'reholding onto the rock longer than I am.
Sure, why not? Yeah,of course that's okay. I've been
doing some high intensity interval training recently. Why dusting off the pinini X can

(52:05):
get them going? Yeah, nothinglike starting to work on my winter body
right right now. No, Ifeel like I feel like if somebody threw
me a rope and I were inthat situation and they were like, this
is the only way you can saveyourself is to let one of your hands
go and put the rope around youlike these Yeah, no, it's not
gonna work, And I would justlook down and be like, I don't

(52:28):
know, I'm just gonna do it, and then I just jump. Oh,
I thought he was just like likehe definitely I think he definitely was
like I don't want to live withoutmy wife. But I'm just saying me.
I would be like, I can'tdo this. Yeah, now you
have instructions for me, like,are you serious? I can't. No,
we're not gonna do this. No, both of them are in heaven.
And if there's anyone anyone from thisepisode who is in heaven, it's

(52:52):
Bear. Yeah, of course it'sthe Bear. Of course it is.
He's myway's own business. He's beena part of that land longer than the
Duttons, or his family has waylonger than the Duttons. Like, come
on, guys, Bear is inheaven, no doubt about it. Bear.
Bear was good. Bear was nice. I loved Jimmy. This time

(53:12):
still written for Bear, of course, just just always always good. So
I think if there's anything to sayabout these two episodes, it's rest in
peace, Bear, Rest in peaceBear. And also if you shorten that
a little bit more, it's evenmore accurate. Rip Bear, Rip Bear.
Oh oh man, that's deep,some deep stuff there. What would

(53:38):
you say if I tried to closethis episode in a succinct way instead of
just saying words until Aaron cuts offthe recording. I think that sounds like
a plan. I'd love to seeyou try it. Okay, Well,
this is John Dutton Must Die anunofficial Yellowstone Recap podcast. Shout out to
our producer, Aaron, who weloved you. You have to leave this

(54:00):
in and I'm not doing it,am. I'm just gonna keep rambling.
Yeah, you can't. You don'thave the ability you are. You're a
good East Tennessee boy. There's justyou. Just you can't. There's nothing
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