Yellowstone - S05E07 - The Dream Is Not Me (Recap & Review)

Justin and Daniel break down the greatest episode of tv, ever...S05E07 of Yellowstone: The Dream Is Not Me.

Episode Transcript

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This is a bramble jam podcast.Hello and welcome to John Dunton Must Die,

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where the beef is expensive and thelesbian kisses are free. My name
is Justin Kirkland and I am herewith my wonderful co host, Daniel Thompson.
Daniel, Hello, Hi, Justin. How's it going. It's good.
I'm lit at your lit. Rightbefore we started recording, I told
you I'm lit about this episode.You said, save it for the podcast

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and then chart record and I'm justI'm still vibrating. You're still vibrating.
I uh, did you work onthe beef lesbian kiss line like for a
while or just like no, justoff the top of your head. Man,
you said we're recording, and Iyes, and did that so hard?
Yeah? You did? You did? And see that's what you get
here at John Dutton Must I.It's a it's a Yellowstone podcast for the

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people, which means a people,it's A it's unofficial, and B you
get that hot, hot improv offthe off the top that just can't be
touched. It was great. Iloved it. I am I'm I'm like
vibrating on all kinds of different wavestoday because I'm excited about this episode.

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I'm excited that we've started hearing fromsome listeners. I want to shout out
Elizabeth for her Tito's Cherry live hatethat I'm sorry she's getting so that she
could compete with be not like haveus worried about her? That's right.
And also I do feel like assoon as you add cherry and lime to

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that Tito's vodka, Beth Dutton isout like hard out like that is that's
how you compete with Beth Dutton?Is you just you cut that vodka a
little bit with some cherries and somelime, and maybe don't start at six
in the morning before the sun comesup. Maybe those three things would allow
you to compete with She's like,I want my vodka dirty and they're like

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what does that mean? And she'slike with nails in it, Like that's
as far as that goes with actualtyphoid fever right in exactly. Yeah,
all right, if you will,but no, it's I've really enjoyed hearing
from people who listen to the podcast, so so reach out to us because

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we're as things go, I feellike we're gonna get spicy because you were
not if anyone was upset by theidea that RiPP that I said that written
might die. Oh boy, buckleepisode only further underlined buckle up. And
before you get before we get rolling, I do want to say, please
leave us a rating and review.We're starting to get more of those.

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When we get to a hundred,we're getting cowboy hats. Justin and I
are getting actual cowboy hats. Soyou can't see us right now, but
we are recording the video of thisand the video will be available at some
point and and so you're gonna wantto see those cowboy hats. So we
got to get to a hundred andthen that allows us to get the cowboy
hats. That's very important. Ijust felt like I should throw that out
there and to really like sell howimportant these ratings and reviews are, and

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like what this kind of payoff isfor the cowboy hat. I have never
been able to find a cowboy hatbig enough for my head. Dude,
what size I'm My head's ginormous.What size fitted hat do you wear?
Do you know? No? Becausewe've gone up to like an eight okay,
like like an eight and a quarter. Eight and eight and a quarter
doesn't do it. No, justin, are you kidding me? Look at

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this nogget. Two biggest noggins thatI know are me and Brand. I'm
a seven and seven eighths. Brandis an eight or eight a quarter?
You can't, you're I mean,man, you belong down here justin.
Yeah, man, big headed boys, that's right, that's right down there
in South Carolina. That's right.I'm just gonna I'm gonna amazon. I'm

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gonna amazon giant head cowboy hats.That's what I'm gonna do, and I'm
sure it'll go great. I'm proudto be the big headed satellite up here.
So that's right. That's right.Before we ramble on too much about
these cowboy hats, I wanted toif y'all are just tuning in for episode

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six, first off, I'd liketo apologize because we said that this week
was the mid season finale. It'snot. It's what it's not. It's
not. This is episode seven,by the way, this is seven week.
You know it would make a lotof sense justin with fourteen episodes.
I'm not a math major, butyou cut that in half and seven is

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the mid season finale, not Yellowstone. No, no, no, They're
like we're gonna give you the bighalf first, and we're gonna give you
eight episodes and then come back forsix more. But the sneaky snake approach
about it is that we're not gettingone next Sunday because christ is Jesus's birthday
and and we carve out of space. But we do get it on New

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Year's New Year's Night, that's right. Yeah, So what I'm what I'm
telling you guys is that in thenext week, if you're coming here for
the first time, your first assignmentis to listen to all episodes. That's
right. There are there have beenseven episodes, and there's seven episodes of
us too, right, because wesplit that first one to true. Yeah,

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jos, you love it when peoplein podcasts do the ad men talk.
We did our business meeting during theshow today. That's great, yes,
and the financials are they're great.Um. But the other way that
we we break up these episodes iswe start with whatever the heck we're doing
right now, Then we move intoa recap of the episode we talked about

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the major points, and then ofcourse we always end with a memorium and
then we do a little we doa little betting at the end for people
who have money in their pocket toburn, which is definitely the two of
us, just you can't see it. I always do things on podcasts that

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people need to see and not here, but I was just throwing paper anyways.
The recap for this week of episodeseven of season five of Yellowstone.
This week we start with some tomfoolery. You hear flashbacks at this point,
and I get it, you're juststarting to roll your eyes. But Yellowstone
has been firing on all cylinders thisweek. All those past moments seem to

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have led to this faded night inthe past where Rip gets into it out
on the range with the same guythat Young Best made Sweet Sweet Love to
tune in that track. As itturns out, Rip kills that guy with
a rock after he talks out ofturn about Buff and that murder is what
makes Rip pledge full allegiance to theYellowstone Ranch, as if he hadn't pledged

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it before. Back in the present, Jamie is turning Sarah Outwood into his
personal therapist as he reflects on beingforced to become a lawyer. In turn,
Sarah promises that she'll help him becomegovernor. I think I've seen this
film before. Later in the episode, after Jamie gets big bad about the
Duttons putting their land in a conservativeconservator conservatorship conservation aship. I think it's

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a conservatorship, but I could beat a corner in a corner lot.
Sarah suggests that John is at riskof bankrupting Montana with this botch deal that
he had with Market Equities, andthat could be an impeachable offense. Out
on the branding camp, Beth comesand fixes herself some coffee and sits outside

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of the tents just so she canjudge the other women on the ranch and
call them slots. Beth says thatthey get the treatment that they earn,
which feels harsh and a little bitdry until you see how Summer reacts to
caring for bulls. This whole bitseems to be something that's like recurring over
and over the season. But ina rare twist, Yellowstone is self aware

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and has Monica asked a million dollarquestion, why are you so main?
Then Monica and Beth's share a reallyspecial moment that we're going to get into
a little bit about their shared losses. We even see Beth cry. We
see justin cry. Everybody cries backto politics. There's a pipeline that may
be going in over the broken rockland, and Senator Wendy Monies is willing

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to help fight in, but shesays, hey, listen, I'm not
the governor. They could really usethe governor's support. But of course the
governor isn't around because the counter doesn'twant to be governor. He's out on
the land discovering that all his cowsare going to die from what I honestly
didn't follow. But big journey forthese cattles. It doesn't seem like the
futures looking bright for them. Kindof like rip. Saving the cattle that

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they have would cost them one pointfour million dollars among months per month,
because land land will never lose value. That would completely taint the Douttons.
And Beth finally just kind of cutsthe bs and tells your dad, hey,
the ranch is gonna go under.And her dad's like, I don't

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know, this is always worked,and she was like, yeah, daddy,
you're you're not a businessman. You'rea rancher. I'm a businessman,
which is Yellowstone saying that gender isa construct. So Beth starts looking into
the beef business. At a stalemate, rip Beth, John in the entire
Yellowstone Ranch decide to go to thefair as a treat. Teeter wins a

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bear walker and Landy Wilson seemingly breakup. John kisses Summer behind a hat,
Beth wears a sweater and lesbian's kissbecause wokeness is gonna take over one
one. That's all that happened that. I mean, gosh, man,
so much, so much happened.You know what, if if you were

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ever in danger, I would putyou in a conservatory ship for sure.
I would put me in a cornera lot. Yeah, good good.
See you sit there. That's right, you sit there and stay there.
Yeah, you think about what you'vedone. So this next segment has a
roaming a roving name, A roamingname I think the one that Daniel likes

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the most. Table talk, Yes, bunk house table talk. But this
week it's the Windy Monies to checkcorner, the Windy Monies chit Chat corner.
I like that. I like Icould. It's I mean, we're
talking about a tertiary character getting asegment named after her, which is a
little much. I mean, thisisn't even Dutton or Dutton adjacent. This

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is like a senator that shows upevery third episode. So but I'm not
last here for it. Last weekI pitched something to do with Buck Taylor,
and I saw you get visible,like visibly mad, and I was
like, you know what, We'llkeep it in the family. So I'm
stretching it to better. But yeah, the Buck Taylor was as bad as

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this show's ever been. Like,let's just just be very clear, like,
um, now that I've done,uh dropped Windy monis his name for
her sponsorship deal? Good? Uh? Tell me, tell me what?
What? What jumped out to youfrom this episode so much? I mean,
we start with Rip going full Mosesin the desert, murdering someone in

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cold blood. UM, And Iguess I should expect more from Yellowstone,
but I don't. Um And toact like those that flashback has anything to
do with the flashbacks that have beenhappening literally all season. Is doing all
of the legwork there, but agreat I mean, like classic Rip you

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know backstory. I mean, youknow it's clear in my opinion that you're
right he's gonna die. I dothink Yellowstone is playing very fast and loose
with the fact that they're now thenumber one show on television. I don't
know if that's a matter of TaylorSheridan writing at all. I don't know
if it's like, let's give thepeople what they want or what we think
they want. I don't know whatit is. But fourteen episodes, let's

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like to make the mid season finaleeight. That's weird. Let's have Beth
Dutton call other women sluts and thendefend the honor of the institution of marriage.
Let's do that, shall we?Let's do that where she basically gets
a good chuckle out of any theidea that any of these systems could be

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oppressive. Who is this character thatwe've crafted now here in season five of
Yellowstone, I don't know. Um, yeah, a lot, a lot
is happening. Very little of itis makes sense. But I do feel
pretty strongly Rip's gonna die. Ifeel pretty strongly that this impeachment plot is
different than what I thought it wasgoing to be a murder plot. So

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the fact that they're just gonna tryto impeach John, I guess makes more
sense and I'm here for that.But yeah, a little bit of a
mixed bag this week, not notthe awfulness of last week justin, but
a mixed bag. I would say, is where I'm at? What about
you listen? I put a skullcan in my back pocket and call me
surprised. I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was all fine.

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I know it's crazy and maybe I'mjust like fully in at this point.
But when I see Rip like bluntforest like rocking this man's ribs wh are
literally a rock, yeah, Iwas like, yeah, tracks. Yeah,
But if you go back and you'vebeen listening since the beginning and we
go to that, we go tothe episode where Beth and Summer get into

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like an all out brawl, whichI completely dissociated from, that's right.
I do make I do make thepoint that I'm I'm here for anything in
everything match when you're fighting, Yeah, all you know, Helena Cell,
everything's you know, ladder match orwhatever it is, Like, that's that's
what you're here for. Tag Team, Royal Rumble, Let's let's do it

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all. If you ever thought it, like, yeah, if you're a
Rip, maybe wasn't the brightest bulbin the box. Uh. He just
he clubs a man with a rocklike six times the dude cannot move for
minutes, and Rips like, youprobably need to drink some water. Nah,
dude, he's dying. He's dying. That's what's happening there. I

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know you don't have your doctorate yet, Rip, but you blunt force trauma.
You have killed a man. That'swhat you've done again. I'm gonna
stop you because I want you to. I don't want you to do this,
but like hit a man five orsix times. This is why I

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don't like finding you don't know whenis when? I wouldn't know. Honestly,
if I capped somebody six times andthey started like bleeding out the mouth,
I'd be like, yeah, Ithink that it needs some water because
like I didn't mean to take awash. That blood out your mouth.
Boy, that's gross. I'm gonnathrow up. You gotta get that out.
I can't see that. Yeah.So, so Rip, we know

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that Rip has I mean, weknew that RiPP had killed people before,
but that his origin story His firstkill was Rip first blood. Yeah,
give me give me that backstory.So Rip kills this guy with a rock,
and uh, I feel only morecertain now that Rip is going to
die, yeah, or RiPP isgoing to be somebody. Somebody came to

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me on Twitter and was like Ripp'sabsolutely not going to die. Wow,
Like how could you say this?And they were like, the show can't
function without him, the show cannot without him. Come on, I'm
not I think that's a little hyperbolic, but I'm not convinced that it's completely

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wrong, because I think that theshow would suffer more without Rep than it
was without John. Without John,Wow, that's bold, that's bold.
I don't know if I agree withthat. You know, Rip has become
a character that is meaningful in alot of the different facets, but at
the end of the day, likehe's a yes man. He's a Yeah,
that's what he is. He's ayes man. And I'm not trying

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to denigrate the role of Rip,but this is his whole life. Like
get it done, said, tellsomebody tell me what to do, and
I'll get it done. And youcan find a thousand of those on the
Dutton ranch. I just I can'timagine it being And and the other thing
is is you get to see,like if you think Beth Dutton has been
unhinged before, if you kill Rip, you get to see a fully unhinged

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Beth Dutton, which I think weall would like to see or at least
that would be the best move forthat character, um, who they're trying
to redeem right now, and notthat they can't redeem her, but I
think that that they just lean onRiPP to do the heavy lifting there with
that character, whereas if he's gone, then she's she's got to go and
do that. But I will saythis. You know, he kills the
dude with the rock, and thenthe guy his last dying breath is don't

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tell John Dutton that you did this. Tell him it was something else,
right, Like tell him that's right, trampled by horses, which at that
point that does over and over againa lot of hoofs just hammering home at
the temple. Uh, that's whatthey're doing, um. And I hate
to say it, but I believethat him doing that puts ripped between a

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rock and hard place. Goodbye.That's that's the end of the episode.
The if you dive good line,subscribe and bye. We here to help.
I wanted to ask you, let'sunpack some of these clues around why

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we think that Rip is going todie, because for me, I do
think I do think that the flashbackswill come into play. I think it's
a long game, and I thinka lot of people are going to miss
it, which is why I'm hereon jop Upon my stock. But like
there was a moment where they wereabout to ride off into the cowboys were

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about to ride off, and thatone guy that Rip has now killed says
something to Beth, and Beth passeshim up and goes to Rip and goes
come back or say something's or sayssomething similar to like stay safe out there
and come back. And now youhave something which we actually didn't note in
the recabit. It's very important thatRip and these these cowboys including Teeter Walker,

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Texas, Bobby John or something.Yeah, four of them are going
out on the range to Colorado toColorado. Yeah, for for quite a
while, that's right. And likeeven though Beth is like whoa, she's
also like quite calm about it,and she's like, I dripped an we'll

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get happy hour, and I'm like, yeah, last thing you need to
be doing is driving. But shesaid she's gonna fly down and then she'd
stay in the town an hour awayand drive out. But she doesn't need
to drive either way period. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I got
I was like, oh, that'stoo easy, that is far too easy,
and it's he keeps going away andcoming back, and I think that

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that's gonna be no pen intended rippedout from underneath her room. Oh I
see who you did there. That'snicely done. I think that they are
absolutely laying the groundwork for this onething that is the only constant we have
right now in Yellowstone is ripping Beth. That's it. And I think in
season five of a television program whereyou've already as you mentioned in your synopsis,

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which we'll get to, Jamie Duttonis doing the same storyline twice.
He's doing the same exact storyline he'salready done once again. Will he get
another kid out of it? Staytuned. This is the only constant we
have that people care about, whichis ripping Beth together. Like it's a
big selling point of the show,and so a bold move, especially with

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all these spinoffs coming around, islike, yeah, let's up turn the
apple cart again. And I thinkthese flats like we're getting a lot of
rip heavy exposition right now that isn'tadding up to anything. I mean,
it's it's wolves, it's it's murder, it's you know, a date with
Beth as a teenager. It's movingdown to Colorado for a year. Like

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it seems like we're doing a lotwith Rip. And I don't know why
they would do it if he wasn'tgonna die. Now you could make the
case that Beth could die, whichwould be like shut your mouth, I
know, I know, take adeep breath, but catastrophic to to everyone's
plans. But it's one of them, and I think it, like I'm

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really on board John Rip? What'srips last day? Patsy Klinder? What
what does the Patsy Klinder? Whatdoes that mean? That? Like she
flies down and like that plane?Oh Patsy Klind in real life? Her?
Okay? Got it? Uh yeahwow wow that'd be bold. And

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by the way, this is thisis absolutely no disrespect to the legend.
Who is Patsy kind? I loveI love crazy. I went back in
Baby's arms. I know nothing,but the show is not called Patsy Cline
Must Die. We would never sayanything of the sort. What's Ripp's last
name? What's rips last name?Wheeler? Rip? Wheeler must die?
Could be um? But yeah,her on the plane could be that could

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be a move. Um. Yeah, And maybe we're giving the show too
much credit because it's never really killedoff any main character since the first episode,
so like it has a reputation ofkilling people, but it actually doesn't
do it. Like the Duttons areall typically safe, all their extended family
is safe. They go through theRinger, but they don't ever die.

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So maybe we're given the show toomuch credits. But I think from the
way they're setting it up, likeI'm with you, I think I think
it's gonna be Rip Rip Wheeler wehardly knew, just as a as a
to play with like the past,and also to help me remember what happened
Rip and Walker's relationship. Can youremind me what's going on there? Because

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I know that Walker was supposed tobe taken to the train station and he
was not. But I think itwas Rip that didn't take him to the
train station, right, Yeah,they determined it was a while back and
they should have, and then theygave him another shot. I don't remember
why, but like basically they justswept that under the rug and acted like

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everybody's fine. Like Lloyd makes ajoke in this episode, was like,
well, if you don't kill himfirst or something. But I mean,
I guess they're still mad at eachother, but not really. I don't
know, like it's clear that they'vemoved past that storyline. In my opinion,
I just looked it up. Caseydrove him to the train station.
Couldn't do it, that's what hecouldn't do it, and Rip wanted him

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dead. I'm just wondering. Iknow we're giving yellows and a lot of
credit right now, but I'm wonderingif they bring that back, and Walker's
the reason. I don't know,because that would be like the Rip being
like I told you so, weare really really giving Yellowstone the credit of
a prestige drama. I mean,we are giving him Madmen level credit right

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now. But I'm here for it. I mean, Walker and Lady Wilson
seemed to break up at the endof this episode. Yeah, and and
Walker told Rip, like Rip said, is this going to be a problem?
And Walker was like, absolutely not. It's my dream to heard five
thousand cattle, which you know whatI mean, everybody, yeah, uh,

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but yeah, I'm wondering if somethinghappens with Walker. But we've we
don't need to talk about Walker toomuch. I do want to talk a
little more about Beth because I whenshe was just sitting outside and called pretty
much all the women of Yellowstone thatlike work on that ranch except for Teeter

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Slots, it was I was justlike, I laughed, but also I
kind of rolled my eyes because I'mlike, this is insane, guys,
And I'm really grateful that Monica wasfinally Poor Monica, She's just been used
to like bolster every other like theytook her baby and they were like,
you're going to be sad, andthey weren't use you the rest of the
season to just explain other characters.And poor Kelsey aswell, was like,

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yeah, you're fine, dude.I I just had such a hard time
with that scene. I like oneof my least favorite scenes, and it's
because I think before this season,I think Yellowstone has done a really good
job of showcasing the problems with thecaricatures of both sides of this like rural

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urban kind of divide in our country. And in this episode, we've reduced
the like that progressive idea to likean idiot who just duck can't see the
forest for the trees and doesn't understandand is traumatized by everything and just is
just like one of those nerds outthere that doesn't get it and like to

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do that through Beth Dutton, whoin my opinion, has done so much
in the previous seasons to be likeno women can do literally anything men can
do, to do this thing whereshe's like, well, you know,
marriage is what you make it,and yeah, that system really like I
couldn't believe what I was watching,Like it was shocking to me. Was

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it not out of character for you? So I feel like I referenced Raising
Anatomy ah pod you do every week, raise any rewatch podcast starting never but
you know, the the vin diagramof Yellowstone watchers and Grayson Anatomy watchers.
I feel like it might be biggerthan you think, but not as big
as I wanted to be. Butone of my issues with Gray's Anatomy is
they at the beginning of the seriesdid an incredible job of telling complex stories

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about all walks of life and likeyou got a message from it that that
really kind of like resonated because itwas put very plainly in front of you.
Whereas I really feel like Yellowstone andlike it sorry, wow, jump
out metaphor real real heart. Uh. Gray's Anatomy in its later seasons became

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very like I hate using this wordbecause I hate this word, but like
woke in the way that it likebeats you over the head. Uh yeah,
and like it's very like to camerakind of monologues and you're like,
okay, you're exactly You're pushing anagenda, and like all of us sudden

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like I support the agenda and Idon't support this monologue. And I feel
like that's kind of what Yellowstone isstarting to do. Yeah, because I
think I think about that scene withBeth where she talks about like the institution
of marriage and then like they havethis really I did think that the scene
between her and Monica was yeah,yeah, really really good. I'm talking
about the scene before that one forsure. Yeah, it's the scene before

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that where like she's just kind ofeducating people. And then I think about
the scene at the end where Summersitting with John and she goes, I
get why you Brandon vaccinate? AndI literally had a moment where I kind
of pulled back and I went,do you do you like, at what
point did you flip that switch?Because as early as this morning, you
were still being kind of an ahole about it. She kept squealing about

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how everything was so traumatizing, likethat's the only word she could use.
I'm proud of her for coming outthe other side of her trauma with understandings
right like, Yeah, I don'tjob, good job, good job.
I don't even know how we gotthere. No, but I just I
just feel like they it's the showhas almost become a show where everything is

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filtered through Beth and Rip like everythingand it feels as though the Yellowstone is
leaning into the things that people loveand also making sure they shore up their
base audience to make sure they cancontinue this run as long as they want
to do so, and that doesnot make typically the best television. And

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I'm here as someone the last fewweeks you'd probably listen and go, I
know you're on a Yellowstone podcast,Daniel, but do you even like the
show? Guys? I am hereto tell you seasons one to four all
have moments of just sheer greatness inthem, and the characters are wonderful.
And I feel like that's not theclip we're getting right now. And I

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don't know if it's me I'm tryingto figure it out, but I feel
like everything it's like when you know, I was never a huge Big Bang
Theory fan, but I understood whypeople found it funny. But like,
somewhere along the way they just said, let's throw out any character development and
just what situation can we get thecharacter of Sheldon in that would be funny.
And then that's how they wrote theshow. And so instead of having

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any sort of guidelines, it's justBeth and Rip or what everybody loves.
Let's do this all like through theirlens. And so if they kill Rip
and that would be really great becauseit would show that they're not just beholden
to like what they believe the cashcow is, which is these two people
and their relationship and how they talkto everyone else, you know what I

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mean. I think the cash cowof the beef business. Oh, you're
right, you're right, and whichI have questions. I have questions.
The idea that Kevin Costner owns thelargest amount of land in Montana, has
a chopper, has a fleet ofDodge Rams, has more money than God,
but can't figure out how to packbeef is one of the most absurd

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things I've ever seen in this show. Like, I get it, I
understand that's not what you are.But like, of all the hurdles that
they've had to overcome, land deals, fights with the Native Americans, people
coming in from out of town,the thing they can't overcome is how to
get beef packed and shipped. WhatI see. I have questions on the

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other end of it because I I'mtrying to I'm trying to figure out if
what I'm about to say is goingto lose us listeners. We're not Yellowstone
justin you say what you want tosay. I don't exactly know what they're
doing with the cows currently, neither, like why do they exist, Like,

(30:47):
oh the cows currently? Yeah,My understanding is is that they set
like they breed really good cows andcattle and like then they sell them because
I knew. I mean obviously Iknew it was in a dairy farm and
I knew, but like, likethey breed the best cows in the world.

(31:07):
Like they do this thing early inthe season right where they talk about
like how inflation is killing everybody,and like it's like by the time you
get to the butcher's market with this, it's gonna it's gonna really hurt.
Remember that that that thing, thatthing, well, that that is they're
not on the beef distribution side ofit. They're on the cow distribution side
of it. So I think theythey raised cattle, breath breed bulls and

(31:30):
cows together and then they they sellthem when they're of a. That's what
I was thinking as well, whichis why I had the question of like,
why is this such a shocking jump? Yeah, I don't like it.
You already have the cow, yes, so just like cut out the
middle man. That's right, that'sright, Like Beth is right on this.

(31:53):
She yes, John Dutton is thepast. She is the future.
That like a I'm been taking over. The patriarchy is the one driving force
of this show that is fascinating tome that it continues to be, which
is everybody's pulling for this guy tohold tight to his thing and clearly his
daughter should run it. That isthat is phenomenal, Like it's a great

(32:15):
thing, and this is a greatjuxtaposition that shows that I don't paying over
a million dollars a month to rentland for your cows is the dumbest thing
I've ever heard, Like it's stupids. That's yeah, that's right. Yeah
yeah like you you you are,you are looking at a Brownstone and maybe
in Manhattan, Like what are youdoing right now? Like you you're that's

(32:37):
ridiculous, Like just where's the beef? Like just take the thing and sell
the thing at eight bucks a pound? I come on, can I tell
you and everybody who's listening about somethingearly special that happened to me this week?
Please do so we got to watchwe got to watch the episode a
couple of days earlier, state andstay mum about it so that we don't

(33:00):
get in trouble. Uh. ButI saw the whole beef storyline and in
my head I was like bump blabla bum blah blah blah blah blah blap.
And like immediately like saw the beefcommercials. Yeah, bump bump up
and I haven't seen it in yearsyears. I saw it a day later.
No you didn't. I thought itwas advertising. Is getting crazy.

(33:23):
I thought it was just for whenDixie and am I making that up in
my head because I know the exactcommercial you're talking about. But in my
head, it was always like beef, It's what's for dinner and there was
always like a win Dixie logo atthe bottom. Am I am, I
just losing my mind here. Beefhas broken out, man. Yeah,
it has its own thing. Itdoesn't eat when Dixie anymore. Wow.
This leads me to something else thatI just want to drop because it really

(33:45):
stunned me. Have you seen theJesus commercials? No? No, I
have not have them down. Thisis okay. I'm just preaching the quiet
down here, justin we don't havethe Jesus commercials. We were we were
uh, I'm sorry, I'm takingeverybody on the tangent. We were watching
TV the other nine Survivor finale,if we got any survivor of hands out

(34:05):
there, and there was just thiscommercial and it was like he was mad.
He was made fun of too,like he was ostracized even though he
was trying to bring people together.And I was like, who are we
talking about because it was all there, Oh no, no, no,
no, no, I have andit's it says like the un Jesus or
on something at the end of thething. It gets to the end and
it just says like Jesus. AndI was like, I mean, honestly,

(34:30):
you're gonna throw some people up herefor a trip because I grew up
Southern Baptist, so like I'm readyfor this, but like that, that's
wild. Beef and Jesus have steppedout on their own and they don't need
any attachment. I mean, Jesusnever did two of the two of the
most important things in life Beef inJesus. I mean, I mean,
I don't Jesus first, Yeah,I mean it's close, but yeah,

(34:52):
yeah, I mean it's the onein one a for sure. If we
wouldn't have, we wouldn't. That'sright, that's rights. I want to
take this to the Fair because oneof my favorite moments on this entire series
happened at the fair and it wasTeeter and her Bear, which she decided.

(35:15):
She decided, and I've heard Teetertalk for a couple of seasons now.
She decided that the way the characterTeeter says bear is bar bar which
is just I've been to all differentparts of the South, justin I've been
to the polite southern redneck of SouthCarolina, to the mountains of East Tennessee,

(35:38):
to the Hillbillies of North Carolina,to the I do declares of Mississippi
and Alabama to the ranchers of Texas. And I've never heard anyone in the
South say the word bear, barbar. I've never heard it, have
you not? Bar? But Idefinitely know people were like back home,

(36:04):
like I will have taken somebody homewith me from like college or grad school
or something, and I just lookat him and I'm like, yeah,
you're not going to understand. No, But then like I can fully translate
it. Yeah, my dude,my wife when we started dating in high
school, but the first time shecame over to my grandparents house was like
we were probably in college, andI literally had to translate everything my grandfather

(36:28):
said, like I love it,Like every like she would smile and then
she would be like what did hesay? Like what did he just say?
Um, you know so that Ilove Yeah, come on, That's
why I loved Teeter. I meanshe was she was firing on to use
the same phrase again that we alreadysaid the podcast. She was firing up
a yeah, she's great, She'sgreat. I loved her. Bear.

(36:52):
Something that really jumped out to meis this potential friendship but also rivalry that
could be forming between Carter and Tatemaybe I'm just reading far too much today,
you're giving it. I didn't eventouch that at all. You're giving
them all kinds of credit. That'sright. So they had their little like
shooting thing. They both have brokenarms right now. And as we've said

(37:12):
in the past, in eighteen eightythree, there was the clue that this
I think six or seventh generation whichevernumber it is, you know me and
numbers not doing well this episode,that the Broken Rock people will rise up
and take the land back. Andyou have who I see is the future
of Broken Rock and potentially the Duttonsin Tate. It's one guy, but

(37:36):
it's right. You also potentially havethe future of the Yellowstone Ranch, and
like the Dutton family interests in Carter'sright, No, I like it.
No, this is really good stuff. I mean it's good. I don't
know if I would give them thatmuch credit, but it's good. Like
you have. You are doing ittoday like you're clicking on all cylinders,
because this is great. This isgreat. The last thing that I want

(38:00):
to bring up is, uh,the little little sneaky snake that happened this
episode. Uh, Summer is talkingto John and Kevin Costner is serving some
some visuals at her. Yes,and she goes, I think you need
to stop looking at me like thatas your press secretary. And he goes,

(38:21):
You're not my press secretary, You'remy environmental advisor, my press secretary
behind me, make it out,and then cut to back. There a
sneaky little lesbian kiss in the middleof yellow stuff. And as soon as
it happened, I texted you.I said you a picture, and I
said, first and foremost, canyou help me identify if this is for
sure a woman? I am gotit. After watching it, I'm at

(38:43):
least ninety percent there. I thinkit is. Yeah, yeah. But
what I what I love about itis that Yellows cut to it, and
it's one of the it's one ofthe few things they've done with Nuance.
They cut to it. It happened, they cut away, and everything like
nobody around them was imploding. Nobody, I mean, somebody was definitely,
yeah, where's a Jesus commercial whenyou need it? But there is.

(39:09):
I mean I looked because I wrotea piece on this for Jezz Bell because
I was like, lesbian's on yellowStone, Uh. And most people are
just kind of chill. A fewpeople feel like it's it's a little,
uh, it's a bit too wokefor the series, but it was.
It was super I don't know itwas to it and then go away.

(39:31):
The episode of that was sixty minuteslong, wherein Taylor Sheridan says systems aren't
oppressive and defends the institution of marriage, like come on, people, like,
are you kidding me? Like whatare we doing here? Like he
it's it's nothing like to say thatthat is too woke is absurd, absurd?

(39:53):
I uh yeah, I feel likekids everybody always has through frain of
like I just don't want it rubbedin my face. I just don't want
it to be over the tunnel.Well this wasn't This was just like wasn't
two ladies vibing back there? Andthen we and then we moved on.
And I'm sorry. If you everhave anything negative to say about somebody with

(40:15):
that good of cheekbones, you andI are simply not the same person.
Stature alone would be enough to giveit a pass. Um. I'm thinking
about this episode, and as we'rebringing this little segment to a close,
I have nothing to say about JamieSarah Attwood. Unfortunately, I love Donald

(40:35):
Labery. I think that she's anincredible actress, but I do feel like
she was brought on for Jamie tohave something to do. And I mean
that as crassley as it's interpreted.Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
no, no you there's no doubleon toonder. It's a single utendre
there. H Yeah, it's unfortunate. I like that he's plotting against his
father, but I don't like itas much now that it's the same as

(40:57):
it always has been. I likedit a lot more and it was like
are they talking about murdering John Dutton? Then I was all in, but
now it's just like, oh,so Jamie's doing Jamie cool? Great move
along well again giving far too muchcredit and getting two in the weeds.
I love the idea that Beth forcesthat Beth ultimately is responsible for the death

(41:19):
of her father because she forces Jamieto kill his own father. So what
would stop him from drying his notfather who resents him her own white Yes,
let's make it. That would makeit murdery. It would be fantastic.
It's good and once again you shouldbe you should be the showrunner.
I've said it for years and youknow we're gonna get that campaign off the

(41:39):
ground. It's never gonna work becauseI did send a video about fully choreographed
contemporary routine to the show's opening credits, which I think if you put white
load of season two opening credits againstYellowstone, I still choose Yellowstone. Wow
wow wow wow wow. Yeah.Yellowstone pretty iconic. I like it.

(42:00):
I like it a lot. Yeah, all right, shall we wrap this
up with a little bit of anin memorium. Let's do it. I'd
like to take my hat off andtell a widow about the loss of all
them cows. Yeah, did anybodyit was just the bison, the bison
that died. These baby bison died, not the baby bison. Yeah,

(42:23):
is it? Oh? Yeah?And then and when they have to get
the cows out otherwise the bison,I'll catch it. So yeah, rest
in peace, all these baby bison. Yeah. Walker and Lady Wilson's relationship
seemingly so. And uh, thelast place on TV that I can hide
from wokeism, r ip safe space. This was supposed to be for me.

(42:47):
Yeah, I don't want nobody ruiningmy fun. There were no major
deaths except uh, except for thepending ones. Because here's the thing,
even though it does seem very verymuch because I'm like very pro Yellowstone this
week, and because like I'm allin, I'm going to give them more
credit. And I don't think thatit's going to be an impeach thing.

(43:10):
I think that something's going to goa bit too far. Wow, And
I think that they're going to surpriseus with how far they're willing to take
Jamie's crazy. We're either going tolook back at this episode of John Dutton
Must Die and go, man,we really like we're laying the groundwork for
what is the most memorable season ofYellowstone ever, or we're gonna look back

(43:32):
and be like, remember when wehad all that like potential and hope that
things We're gonna go this way andwe're gonna look back like this is a
seminal moment of this podcast. We'regonna look at Sheridan. I know you're
listening, mister Sherry, if youwill listen to me, I'm just I'm

(43:52):
just an East Tennessee expat who onetime got on a horse and that horse
took off and I was nine andI cried. So no, I'm not
going to be able to help youwith your realism that I can't help you
with your narrative because, much likeBeth, I left. I went to
a city. I like all thesepeople. I get angry really easily,

(44:14):
but I understand their ways. Letme help you, and you got you?
You would be willing to drink titosat six in the morning. Is
that what I'm hearing? I alreadydo? Why do you think when I
said I'm lit, I mean Iam lit? Actually lit? Got it?
Yeah? All right? We madea bet, we did, but

(44:35):
I think the bet was moved becauseI couldn't come to New York, so
we didn't get to do the wholedrink thing. But I would have gotten
a drink from you. You wouldhave which is not a thousand one drink.
I'm up one drink, no money, no money, which I feel
better about with the mid season finalecoming up, the fact that I have
to bet for the mid season finale, I feel better about winning. Right.

(44:58):
So what I'm gonna do is isI'm gonna bet you that drink back
that I have come in my way, and I'm gonna I'm gonna get it,
kick it back up. I'm gonnago just one time, and you
don't have to. I feel soconfident that John Dutton's gonna die. Let's
go. Ten thousand dollars, let'sgo, let's go. My god,
are you poor? Ten thousand dollarsand a drink? I was gonna say

(45:20):
twenty. But if you're going todrink down here in the South, we
gotta stretch our money out. Iknow you're a big high falutin New Yorker,
but down here, I mean ten, ten is all I can spare
for this pet. But I feelgood about it, so ten grand John
Dutton's die next week. If ifyou do get that correct and I pay

(45:43):
you ten thousand dollars, will yougive me five thousand of it back so
that we can invest in the meatindustry? Uh? Yeah, I don't.
We're gonna have to figure out theshipping and packing though. That's the
big problem, I think, AndI don't know if we have enough.
Like another important question, I wantto ask you ten grain in right now
on it? Like why not justdo it now? If you've got it?

(46:05):
I wanted to ask you earlier.Are you a rancher or are you
a businessman? Oh? I'm abusinessman. I'm not a rancher really,
And I feel like, I thinkyou're a rancher. Yeah those lesbians gross
those cows. Yeah, yeah,yeah, I feel like between the two,
I'm a rancher. I'm not sittingon a businessman. I'm from the

(46:28):
great state of South Carolina. ButI fancy myself as indoorsy like I like
I will, I will go outsideto like play golf or tennis, watch
a baseball game. Um, butno, huh, I don't want to
camp, are you kid me?No, I don't want to hunt.
How many how many animals have youkilled? Well? Growing up, I

(46:50):
shot guns all like, growing upall the time like that we played This
isn't great. This is a differentera. Kids. We would play bb
gun fights. I don't know ifyou guys did that grown up. We
did, but it was one onepump, one pump, right, so
if you pumped at three that wouldpierce the skin. It was a one
pump situation. Um. And thenwe would also a good well yeah yeah.

(47:10):
We would also play bottle rocket fightswere there too, And a kid
in our neighborhood literally got one shotin his eye. They almost had to
take his eye out, And thenall the parents got real serious about firework
safety and we couldn't do bottle rocketfights anymore. So like growing up,
like I killed my share of squirrels, but since I've been an adult,

(47:34):
nun zero, I've killed if youcan believe it. Yeah, man,
I'm a I'm a rancher. I'vekilled a couple of deer. Yeah,
I've killed a ton of geese.I'm I'm the rancher that this world needs.
That's right, You're the rancher thatthis world needs and the one it
deserves. So oh yeah, amen, well I guess for that, Uh,
we should wrap it up. I'mexhausted now. I really did come

(47:55):
in with like a lot of energy, a lot of a lot of meritith.
We did it. We did itjustin we were we worked it out.
We we did it. Next weekyou will not have an episode of
Bells Mary christ As. It willbe Christmas Mary Christmas talking you guys.
And if you are getting caught upon your Christmas viewing and you want somebody

(48:16):
to talk to about it but theynever respond, y'all have to check out
the Deck the Hallmark podcast. Youshould we do a lot of sa Yeah,
yeah, that's right. We uhreview a lot of movies. This
time of year, and you canhear us hang out and talk about them
all season long. Deck the Hallmark. That's exactly right. It's it runs.
It runs deep into the into theHallmark paint. So definitely check that

(48:38):
out. And if you get throughenough of them, you might actually hear
my voice over there too. Yeah, no, kidd, we'll be around.
And then other than that, atsome point we need to have a
discussion of nineteen twenty three, whichalso premiered this week, and we do,
but we're gonna t We're gonna tuckthat one away in our hat because
we can't give you everything. Ohno, dude, just parse it out

(48:59):
a little bit of a time.Time the ranch will go under. So
uh with that, don't forget togive thanks to the two most important things
in life, beef and Jesus.Name is Justin Kirkland Daniel Thompson. Uh,
it's a pleasure. I'm sorry thatyou're a businessman, that's all right.
I'm sorry you're a rancher, butmaybe we'll make this thing work.

(49:22):
Well, you know what, somebody'sgot to be I don't I don't want
to say that. I'm gonna saysomebody's gonna be daddy in this situation.
I was like, no, Idon't like that at all. So uh,
last week you've called me your man'sand this week you're you're, you're,
you've made that comment, so we'reI mean, you know, one
one week at a time, JohnDunn, John Dune Must Die is the
deeply inappropriate podcast where I just tryand that's right, that's right, one

(49:46):
forty minute episode at a time.You never you never know. We got
to contact somebody from HR. That'sright, y'all. Have a great so
sorry, I'll talk to you later. By you're about to hear some ads

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