Ancient Symbolism Could Change Your Life If You Understood Their True Meanings.

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Speaker 1 (00:34):
For Tero Filigotti wrote that the pyramids at Giza have
been contemporaries of lost empires. They have seen civilizations that
we have never known, understood languages that we try to
guess through hieroglyphics, knowing customs that to us seem as
fantastical as a dream. They have been there so long

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that even the stars have changed positions in the sky.
Jordan Maxwell has things to tell you about this forgotten knowledge.
Jordan Maxwell is a leading authority and researcher on ancient
religions and secret societies, their symbols, emlms, fraternal brotherhoods, and
how they relate to Egypt. Listen as he shows us

(01:16):
the parallels between the ancient Egyptian symbols and their hidden
meanings in modern religious beliefs. Please welcome the foremost expert
on ancient religions and modern conspiracies, Jordan Maxwell.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
What do you think? Very kind of you? But I
don't think I resemble that remark. First of all, I
wanna say thank you for UH being here with me.

(01:56):
And second of all, I wanna thank Uh Goodah for
allowing us to be in his home. And I would
like to say that Uh I'm not gonna present myself
as an authority on anything. Though I appreciate the very kind,
courteous remarks, I don't consider myself to be an authority.

(02:18):
I feel far better by saying that I'm just an
ordinary man in the ex in the pursuit of extraordinary knowledge.
I'm fascinated by the things which are unseen. I'm fascinated
by the spirit that pervades this country, and I feel

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that it's an idea whose time has come. To look
at this spirituality that's represented here in the Giza Plateau
as opposed to UH, the religion which is roughly based
on it. So much of UH, the work of the
people of the book is Hebrew and Christian UH has

(03:03):
been given to us. I believe in a political UH
setting rather than a true understanding of the spirituality that's
again represented here on the Giza Plateau. UH. I have
been interested in the work of secret societies of paternal
orders ever since I can remember, because my family had

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I think I mentioned this in the beginning when I
opened the program. My mother had an uncle who worked
in the Vatican Secretary of State's office, and every couple
of years when he would come home as a child,
I would sit and listen to the UH discussion with
my father and his brothers and the men in a

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family discussing politics, religion, and commerce. And it became apparent
to me that there was a system in operation UH
throughout the world which sh decides and makes UH decisions
for us. And there seems to have been in some
sort of a brotherhood throughout the world that decides what

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we will learn and what we won't And esoteric information,
for the most part, was considered to be information on
a need to know basis, and we really didn't need
to know. All we need to do is what we're
told and think what we're supposed to and and not

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cause any trouble. But I had two uncles growing up
as a child who were federal judges. They were not mine,
they were my mother's uncles, but they were federal judges.
I had Catholic priests in the family. I had underworld
in my family Italian family. So I I grew up

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listening to politics, as I said, religion and big money.
I am convinced that there's never been a religious movement
in the world that wasn't a little political. There's never
been a political movement. There wasn't a little religious Uh.
I make a very big distinction between religion and spirituality.

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I believe that that which is represented in this country
in its ancient past is totally different from anything that
we relate to in our modern day world. In Christianity,
we're given to understand that we're looking for a new millennium.
I think the very concept of marking time is a

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comparatively new idea. I don't think the ancients had the
most ancients had a concept of the way we mark
time on calendars. I think that was done perhaps politically, uh,
for religious reasons somehow or another metaphysical to control us

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so that we know when we're to do something and
we're not. But I don't think that the spirit keeps
track of time the way we think it does. And
I am honored uh to have a king with me today.
It is an honor, and I feel I should be

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listening to him rather than him listening to me. But anyway,
the whole subject of the millennium, uh, we're told that
very soon, UH there's going to be a big celebration
here on the Giza Plateau where uh all of the
heads of state and all the most important people, by

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their own standards, are going to be here on the
Giza plateau to celebrate the new millennium. UH. All of
the most important UH elites are gonna be here. Their
word elite is very interesting comes from the from an
ancient Semitic word for god, l which is actually goes

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back to an ancient, far more ancient u UH word
il i L or i l e or i l
l e s els elies. The elies or the eels
were the gods, and the gods were always to rule
from on high. So this is where we get the

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word hill. They're up on the hill. As a matter
of fact, in the Roman Empire, Caesar's seat of power
for the Caesars of Rome was said to be up
on Capital Hill or capitaline Ill. And today we still
have UH people in America who see themselves as gods
and Caesar's UH ruling from on capital Hill with their senate.

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Nothing is more reprehensible to me than political power. I
am UH totally turned off with the word authority. I
don't like authority. It implies the word author and immediately
I question who wrote the law I mean actual If

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you think about it, who said that the Queen of
England is queen. What are you talking about when you
discuss the divine right of kings? I suspect that it's

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a consensus reality, that enough people say something long enough,
and the B group begins to believe it, as Hitler
persuaded everyone to believe himself to be a god, and
after a while the UH the thing sets and now
we have the divine right of the Holy Family or

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the Royal family. UH. I have a particular aversion to
the Royal Family of England. UH. One has no alternative
but to have a a very ill feeling about the
Royal Family of England when you know who they really
are and what they're really doing. But that whole concept

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of the Royal family comes from excuse me, Egypt, but
the Royal Family, the concept comes from this ancient land.
And so much of Europe has taken from this country
and from this land all of its precepts and concepts,

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its ideas of music and architecture and sciences, et cetera,
et cetera. And I has rewoven it and given it
back to us as the accomplishments of modern man. It
it only takes a cursory understanding of history, to to

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see where the magnificence of the Western world was traced
all the way back to this ancient land. We don't
have anything in the entire Western world that comes close
to one of the pyramids. So as far as I'm concerned,

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this land is where it all began. And only until
you understand UH this country and its UH history are
you going to appreciate where we are now in the
span of time and where we're going the UH. I
made this point before and I'll make it again. About

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the word understanding, It comes from the idea of standing
under a foundation of a thing to appreciate it correctly.
And I think that that's what we have to do
with the whole subject of UH this ancient people, in
this ancient country, is to stand under the foundation UH
to get understanding. And consequently, there is so much we

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need to know about the ancient world to appreciate how
it fits into our lives today. This I leave to
those who are better at it, like Stephen, my friend,
who can explain these kind of things. But I have
always been aware that there is an undercurrent of wisdom
and knowledge which has been concealed from our eyes by

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our masters. And I am one for sure that has
had enough of this kind of trickery. I want the
truth to be known about this country. The UH, one
scientist I don't recall who it was, made an interesting
comment that the universe is not stranger than you imagine,

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and the universe is stranger than you can imagine. And
the point being is that you haven't learned anything until
you understand how the pyramids were built, the geometrics, the harmonics, UH,
the well established mathematics. UH. I don't see how anyone

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could possibly say that they are well informed about the
modern day world and not realize the importance that this
country has played in the development of Europe and the
rest of the world. Incidentally, UH, Europe is referred to
as the Old World Order. Architecture cuisine is referred to

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as Old World Europe. If you recall that Europe was
dominated for some sixteen hundred years by the Vatican. Dominated
Europe all of its politics and religion and commerce was
dominated by the Vatican, and that Europe for some sixteen
hundred years has dominated the world. In point of fact,

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all today throughout the world, business is based on something
called UCC Uniform Commercial Code, which is maritime admiralty law.
It is commercial law, the law of the High Seas.
I am not an expert on any of the subjects

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I will discuss with you, but I am I am,
I feel so very strongly you should understand some of
the basics that uniform commercial code, which is the as
I said, the law of the High Seas, the law
of commerce, which guides all corporate law in the world.

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All corporate business law is in point of fact, based
directly on Vatican Canon law, so that in point of fact,
the entire world of business is dominated by Rome. And
most people are totally unaware of the profound significance of

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the symbols and emblems which are used on national coats
of arms, on flags, Holler tree on the symbols and
emblems used by governments, national governments, cities, counties a classic
example of important symbols. And incidentally, symbols are very important.

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If you don't think so, put a swastik on your
arm and walk into a synagogue and see the kind
of response you get. Because symbols elicit and bring out
emotional responses in people. But even more important symbols have
their own spiritual presence. They tell you things. A classic example, UH,

(15:06):
as I said of symbols, Well, in Washington, DC, we
have the the uh Ben Benstone or the Washington Monument,
which is an Egyptian novelisk. On the back of the
dollar bill, we have a pyramid with an all seen eye.

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One of the interpretations of the Ben Benstone or the
Washington Monument is the male phallic and it connects to
the Oval office. And consequently, there is a lot of
symbolism in Washington, DC that was taken directly from UH,
this ancient country the scriptures have I I'm very very

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much involved in the pursuit of knowledge based on the scriptures.
I believe that the Bible has a lot of very
important things to say but has been UH hidden from view.
And the UH things which are given to us to
understand UH about religion are just not true. I remember

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someone saying a long time ago, always trust a person
looking for truth, never trust the one who's found it.
The point being is that real divine truth is far
far out ahead of whatever we might begin to understand.
Manly Palmer Hall, one of my UH very good friend,

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said in one of his lectures, if you can intelligently
explain to an audience something about God that everyone can understand.
Then that proves that you don't know anything about God,
because the God that your pee brain could understand could
not be the one that created the universe. That it

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was kind of an access to the one that created
all things is far far loftier than we have UH
given a correct view of. I feel that perhaps it
would be best said that I'm a spiritualist. I am
taken by the whole concept of the spirit. I've had

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too many things happened to me in my life that
proved to me over and over again that there is
another world coexisting with ours. So I have a very
high respect for uh, the spirit world. I wanna tell
you an example of the kind of thing that has
happened to me all in my life. I'll give you

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one example. When I was about eight years old one morning.
I was born and raised in a little small town
called Gulf Breeze, Florida, Uh, Pensacola actually, and all my
life I had all kinds of strength. Things happened to
me as I was growing up, which I took to
be normal and natural. It never occurred to me that

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they were strange. But Uh, I woke up one morning
about eight years old, and I was about five miles
from home in my night clothes, about two o'clock in
the morning something like that. I was freezing coal. I
was frightened to death because I didn't know how I
got there. I was standing on a concrete bridge, an

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overpass over the train tracks on the west end of town,
and I was freezing coal. And I remember standing between
the columns uh because the wind blowing. At least I
would I wasn't standing in the wind, so I'd stand
between the columns to uh to uh keep warm, and

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wondering how I got there. And I remember distinctly thinking,
how am I going to get home? I could run
to my grandmother's house, but it's too far the other way.
If I'm gonna run anywhere, as well run home. And
I'm thinking to myself, I have no money to call
my parents. And so as I was standing there, I
saw a car racing down the street, coming toward the bridge,

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and it was running red lights. As a little small
town late at night, so it wasn't that dangerous, but
nonetheless they were running red lights. And as they started
up the bridge they came past me. I saw the
two boys that were high school kids. I knew them,
my family knew them, and two girls in the back seat.

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They waved at me and I waved at them. They
were speeding. They shot down the other side of the
bridge and blew a tire as they reached the bottom,
lost control of the car. I was freezing, standing out here,
wondering how I got here, waving at somebody passing by,

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and the the car lost control. I watched it skid
across a parking lot. And this is a long time ago,
fifty years ago, but to the best of my recollection,
I remember at speeding and crashing and hitting cars because
I totally lost control, skiding across gravel and crashed into

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the front of a coffee shop, a little all night cafe.
I ran across the bridge on the other side and
ran down. I remember running across and running down so
very fast that I thought if I trip, I'm going
to knock my teeth out. And I kept yelling that
to myself, don't fall. You're going to break your face
if you fall, because I was running so fast, and

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I ran down and ran across the gravel, and then
it occurred to me as I was running that I barefooted.
My feet are killing me. I ran into the coffee shop.
I saw, of course, what you can imagine was nothing
but a horrible mess of bodies and and chaos. And
for an eight year old child, I I it was

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far more than I could bear, and I I burst
out crying. I was totally disorientated. I didn't know what
to do. I knew people were hurting, but I didn't
know what to do about it. And I remember there
was an old man that motioned for me to come over,
and I went over and grabbed him and pull him
and he kept pushing himself as I helped pull him

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over to the side. I turned around, and even at
that time, even at eight nine years old, I had
the presence of mind to to know that there was
some people here you can't help, so methodically look quickly
and see who you can help and what you can
do to help. And I remember sizing the situation up

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and I was crying. I was hurting, but I realized
that these people were in far more trouble. And then
I woke up in bed crying and I was told ballistic.
Took quite a few minutes from my family to quiet
me down, and my mother explained to me that it

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was a very bad dream. I explained to my parents
that night everything that I had experienced, the boys in
the car, the wreck, all of the uh, all of
the details. The next morning, in the paper, precisely what
I had told my parents happened was in the paper

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exactly as I had seen it. This began a life
of strange occurrences for me and it, and it opened
up my mind to the fact that we are not
here by ourselves. That I've often been asked, well, what
did that experience teach you or what did you get
out of it? It taught me one thing that's indelibly

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left in my conscience that someone, someone has the ability
to put you where it chooses to put you. Someone
has the control to decide where you will be and
what you will do. And so while you might think
that you have total freedom in your life, ostensibly you do.

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But in point of fact, there is a divine presence
in the universe that guides all things. So I believe
that individuals which are here, individuals which are not here,
we're not supposed to be here. I think that there
is a rhyme and a reason for almost everything that
happens the question I uh, and I should have prefaced

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all my comments today by saying that the that the intelligent,
thoughtful presentations that you have heard in the past few
days is not what you're going to hear today from me. Today.
You're going to hear from me the ramblings of a
dissatisfied spirit. I'm just very dissatisfied with everything that I

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see and that I experience in the world around me. Uh.
I think that uh so many people are having problems
in their lives that could be solved if they knew
better how to act and how to deal with these problems. Remember,
the decisions you make in your life are only as

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good as the information, and so if you uh, if
you have faulty information, uh, then of course your decisions
are going to hurt you. I mean, this is why
the people who run our world have such things that
the CIA a central intelligence agency, because intelligence is required

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for every movement in your life. You need to know
what's on the other side. You need to know where
you're going. Uh. It would help to know as much
about the other, uh, the significant other in your life
before making decisions. So that's why I have uh pursued

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this kind of esoteric knowledge, because I believe that there
is a world uh out there that is not in
our dimension, not in our domain, but that it as
the ancient people said. I think it was the knights
templars who coined the phrase as above so below. I
believe that that so many things which happen to us

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is because of something that's happening up there, and someone
else seems to be UH in control. That's my view. UH.
One of the questions I have also is the significance
of the UH the millennium we are told UH. As

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I I've mentioned, we're told that UH there's gonna be
a big celebration here on the gaze of Plateau toward
the end of the year UH, at the UH stroke
of midnight, there's gonna be a big celebration here where
the UH capstone will be put on the pyramid. There
will be a lot of activity here, ushering in the

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new millennium. I think scientifically that's incorrect. I think the
new millennium does not begin to the year two thousand one. However,
we don't let things like that bother us. I mean,
it sounds good two thousands, so we'll party like it's
nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
But but uh, I.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I don't know that that the m millennium actually begins,
uh at the end of this year. I I am
convinced and persuaded that the ancients did not keep the
same kind of timetables we did. We do. But I

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do believe that there is something important happening at this
particular flow of time. There are changes that are happening
that are going to affect us. Yes, and this land
that we call today Egypt, is I believe primarily involved

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in the whole world of mankind and its future. The
scripture says in Genesis. Let me go back to the
Hebrew scriptures. In Genesis where Egypt is likened into the
garden of God, the gordon of the Lord, Egypt is
referred to, and that's in Genesis thirteen ten. In Jeremiah

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and the Old Testament, there's a very interesting scripture Jeremiah
thirty two twenty that says, it is talking about God
and all of his wondrous works. He's great in council
and mighty in works for thy, for his eyes are
open upon the ways of the sins of men, to
give to each one according to his ways. And according

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to the fruit of his doing. And then it makes
an interesting statement in Genesis thirty two twenty God, which
has set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt
even unto this day, what do you mean, signs and
wonders in Egypt even unto this day, and in Israel

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and among other men. And you look up the references
other men, and it says throughout mankind. So I believe
that God, the Divine, the present, the divine presence in
the universe, has set signs in Egypt and among other men.

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When you run the sand that well, there's another interesting
scripture that actually is germane to this whole subject, and
that's Isaiah nineteen nineteen and twenty. Keeping in mind that
God has set signs in Egypt, the scripture says Isaiah

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nineteen nineteen says, in that day shall there be an
altar to the Lord in the midst of the land
of Egypt Comma, and a pillar at the border thereof
to the Lord. For many years, biblical scholars were looking
for two separate things. Here, an altar to the Lord

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in the midst of the land of Egypt Comma and
a pillar at the border thereof. But the answer was
in the next scripture Isaiah nineteen twenty says, and it
it it shall be for a sign and for a
witness unto the Lord of Host in the land of Egypt.

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Blessed be my people Egypt. We'd better go back and
look at that. And that day shall there be an
altar to the Lord in the midst of the land
of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to
the Lord and it and it shall be for a
sign and for a witness unto the Lord of Host

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in the land of Egypt. And later in twenty five
says blessed be my people Egypt. This uh altar in
the midst of the land of Egypt, and the pillar
at the border, I believe, and many scholars concur is

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none other than the pyramid. For according to the reference books,
it seems to indicate that the pyramid is in the
middle at the border thereof it is serving as a symbol,
an emblem, or a sign. And in relation to what

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we have learned from about the Gizer Plateau being a
power plant, I talk with my friend Stephen about this
that I think that there's more yet to the subject.
That Christer was bringing out about the power plant concept

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of the pyramid. I think he's right on this, But
I also believe that we being biological batteries ourselves, we
are an electrical unit of sorts. Ourselves, our very thoughts
are and can be considered to be in the virtual state.

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I think that there's something going on here on an
even higher level with humans and that pyramid. I think
that there is some sort of a resonant frequency in
humans to somehow or another affect us, probably to open

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our minds or to open our spirits. Uh. So that
while we may be talking about a very mundane thing
of an electrical power plant, we're also talking about something
that very well might be a sign or a symbol,
which is an opening, uh for us to move into

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a different uh dimension. Perhaps I hold all of these
things of the very good possibility in relation to the
millennium which is about to begin. We're told the Old
Testament and the New Testament talk about the concept of

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a Messiah, and in the Old Testament, in the Book
of Psalms, for instance, is one of the three places
where the Messiah is referred to as the symbol. There's
an interesting symbol used in the Old Testament Hebrew for
the Messiah. The same identical symbol is used in the

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New Testament for Jesus the Messiah. Let me read it
to you, and then I also wanna talk about the
whole concept of Messiah and and its implications for our time,
the Messianic era. But in the book of Psalms one
eighteen the Hebrew Old Testament Psalms one eighteen twenty two says,

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the stone which the builders rejected is become the chief
corner stone. And this is from the Lord and as
his doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes. It
was talking about the Messiah. And again the Messiah is
referred to as the stone which the builders rejected has

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become the chief cornerstone. Over in the New Testament, one
of the many places in the New Testament that the
uh Messiah is referred to by the same symbol. And
one Peter two six the scripture says, wherefore it is
contained in the scripture. Behold, I lay in scion a

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chief cornerstone the builders rejected the reference works show. And
now again there's at least three different places in the
New Testament where Jesus is referred to as the chief
cornerstone the builders rejected, and the Old Testament Messiah is

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the chief cornerstone. An interesting fact about this is that
the word in Hebrew or chief corner stone and Greek
in the New Testament chief cornerstone simply means a triangle
or a pyramideon triangle perched on top of the pyramid.

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That is what the word chief cornerstone in the both
the Hebrew and the Greek actually means. So the symbol
for the Messiah and both the Old Testament and the
New is the triangle or the capstone of the pyramid.
Now we're talking Egypt. Now we're talking this ancient land.

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We're not talking about Rome. We're not talking about the west.
We're talking about the east. The sun always rises in
the east. Light comes into the world from the east,
not the west. The reference works show that the chief

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cornerstone meaning the top angle of a pyramid. Here Jesus
Christ himself is acknowledged as the chief cornerstone. The Expositor's
Bible commentary says that the Greek word for chief cornerstone
means quote, the tip of the angle. Here in Ephesians,

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it says in the Book of Ephesians, Jesus Christ himself
being the chief cornerstone. The footnotes has the triangle perched
on the pyramid a pyramid pyramidion is, of course the
little pyramid perched to finish off the big pyramid. Now,

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the point I wish to make is that this is
a very important symbol and it has profound implications for
the symbols that's being uh uh bandied around in America.
On the back of the one dollar bill, you will
see the uh uh the pyramid with the all seeing eye.

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Let me see where is it?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I had a anyway, we had a picture of the
uh pyramid.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Here it is, of course, the uh triangle at the top, being,
as I said, the symbol for the Messiah. You need
to understand also that while this might be esoteric Christianity
or esoteric Judaism, it is also well understood in political
circles throughout the world, and that uh so much of

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the elite establishment of world government throughout the world is
well aware of the implications of this ancient land and
its symbols in the pyramid. Uh so much so that
the most important people in the world are coming here
to celebrate something called a new millennium. What has occurred

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to me a question which I have asked many times
is does the new millennium about to dawn begin the
thousand year reign of Christ? Or does the thousand year
reign of Christ begin the new millennium? In other words,

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according to the Christian tradition, if Jesus is to come
back and bring a kingdom, and when he comes back
it will inaugurate a new order or a thousand year
reign of Christ, then does Christ or Jesus have to

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wait until the calendar date of the new millennium beginning.
Why couldn't he come back ten years ago? Why can't
he come back one hundred years ago? Because the concept
is of that the Lord Master coming back begins his
thousand year reign. Then whenever he comes back, that begins

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his thousand year reign. Or as the churches in Christendom
throughout the world are saying that the new millennium will
begin the reign of Christ, it will begin the new
reign of the Messiah. Because if the churches are correct,

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then what we're talking about is an astronomical event, not
a literal Messiah coming back. We're talking about a calendar
event that this Messiah cannot come back until we have
a celebration. We have to have the celebration. It has
to be on the calendar, and it has to be

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at the end of the year period to inaugurate a
new thousand year period. Now the Messiah can come back,
he can't come back before. Do you understand the point
I'm making, which is which does the thousand year reign
begin when the Messiah comes back? Or does the Messiah

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come back when the thousand year begins. The point is
is that the second answer is the correct one. The
Messiah is an astrological, astronomical term, and that the entire
concept and even the old Hebrew tradition of the Messiah

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was a period of time, a Messianic era, a time
that would come. And I am respectfully suggesting that unless
and until we get our stuff together spiritually speaking, that
Messianic era is long yet away from us, because I

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don't believe that on this planet we are ready for
a Messianic era. We haven't even learned how to live
with each other, much less live with that divine one
who created us. We are in total disarray before our God.
It's interesting that the symbol of the triangle has been

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used UH all over the world politically speaking. It's an
interesting subject which I have been working on for many years,
is the occult or hidden connection between the triangle and
the circle and the new Dawn or the coming new Dawn,

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of which Aleister Crowley was merely one of many who
realized the implications of the subject of the new Dawn.
If you will go back in your history books and
UH when the Soviet Union was still in existence, you
will see that the Soviet National coat of Arms had
a sun rising over the Earth with the hammer and

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sickle and the red star. The hammer and the sickle, incidentally,
were separate symbols for thousands of years, and they were
only brought together by the Communists to cross them. The
sickle was always a symbol of Saturn. The Saturnalian symbol

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or the symbol for the planet Saturn astronomically was an
upside down sickle okay, surmounted by a cross. Rather interesting
eye suspect, the symbol of the sickle being Saturn's symbol,

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the Saturnalian symbol of the planet Saturn sur mounted by
the cross, and the hammer being the hammer and the
ancient world was the acts it became known as the hammer,
the hammer of Thoar, the symbol for the ability of

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the gods to tear down, smash down with the hammer
and to build up with power. So those two symbols
were crossed. In the communist world. There's a whole story
on the planet Saturn and its connections to the Nazi philosophy,

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the Nazi religious philosophy, the Communist philosophy, the fascist uh.
It is a fascinating story about how the planet Saturn
has influenced both governments and religions throughout thousands and thousands
of years. Symbols uh rec where it reminds me what

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is the one symbol that was most prominent besides the
swastika in Nazi Germany and in Nazi occupied Europe, the
one symbol that was most used and as most reprehensible
to anyone who hated that system was a fasci, the

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symbol of world fascism, the symbol of war fascism, or
the fasci is a bundle of sticks with crisscrossed with
a hatchet head. A bundle of sticks with a hatchet
head is the symbol of world fascism. It's called a fasci.

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You will see on the nightly news in America every
night on c SPAN. Almost every night in America, you
will see in the Congressional room where the President of
the United States gives his State of the Union message.
In that particular room where the Congress and the Senate

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both set, you'll see it on television at night. On
both sides of the podium. Most people are watching the
speaker in the podium and listening to his dribble. But
no one seems to be aware that on both sides

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of the podium are two twelve foot high fascis, the
symbol of world corporate fascism. This is my way of thinking,
absolutely appalling. I'm amazed at how many people do not
realize the symbols and the emblems of totalitarian dictatorship that

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pervade the Western world. And don't ever forget for one
moment that the money, the Greece and the power that
put Adolf Hitler into power came from America and Britain
and Britain and Europe families with money financed ad off Hitler.

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If you begin to and think back, the older people
here will will understand what I'm saying. Some of the
younger people will not appreciate this. But if you go
back to the thirties in Europe, UH, Germany first of all,
was one of the most educated and most highly advanced
UH cultures in Europe. They were not stupid. Germans are

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many things, but stupid was not one of 'em. But
UH after the First World War they were totally broke,
as were many nations, including America. That war caused UH
economic hardships for everyone except the guys who made the money.

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But Germany was absolutely starving in the streets, quite literally.
And on the scene came a man who was later
to become known as Annolf Hitler, and he began UH
arousing the emotions of the people that we need to
clean this mess up we've been had. We need to

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get back our greatness that was Germany and bring back
the greatness of the Germanic people, et cetera, et cetera.
And he began UH promoting himself and he got elected
to a small office and began to grow in power,
and UH about the mid thirties, mid to late thirties,

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he began to grow quickly and overnight from a from
a country and a people that were starving in the streets,
and a couple of very short years, Hitler was able
to build the largest, most powerful military industrial complex the

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Western world has ever seen. Where did he get the money? Okay? Consequently,
I am of the opinion that for far too long,
we in the West have conveniently overlooked the anti Semitism

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which pervades our culture. And how I got on this subject,
I don't know. But I have so many things, so
many things bother me. This is one of them. This
is not, this is not. This is not only a

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malady in its it is indicative of a continual malady
the human race has, of racism and hatred for people
who don't look like you, and a disrespect for people
who do not live in your country or go to
your church. And consequently, I think that it's about time

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that we start thinking in terms of a world of
people living together and showing respect for each other and
for our elders, and for those things which are far
older than our culture. I think that, uh, there's an
awful lot of people beginning to appreciate that principle. I

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mentioned the word church. You know where the word church
comes from. So many people are proud to tell you
that they're church goers. I remember that. I've got a
story that keeps coming up my mind. I gotta get
rid of it. The child comes out with his father

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in front of the church and he sees the big
statue of a soldier and bronze. And the kid says
to his dad, what is that statue for? And he said, oh,
that's uh to commemorate the men who died in the service.
And he said, which one the nine o'clock at the
eleven o'clock. So the word church, incidentally, h is an

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interesting word. It's an English word, okay, it's an English
word church. It comes from a Scottish word kirk. That's
why I have one of the old hymns Kirk of
the Valley Kirk and the Scottish is church in English.
But kirk in Scottish comes from a Greek word Circe,
Circe and Circe, and the Greek mythology was the mother Circe,

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mother Circe s who was able to put a spell
on people and to bring them into her house and
change men into pigs and eat them let's see. Of course,
So I don't know what that tells you. Uh. So

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I'm I'm just saying that it's interesting. Words. Words are
very interesting. Terms and symbols. Uh. I'm fascinated by the
world of terms and symbols and words. Anyway, back to
this whole concept of the uh, the eye and the pyramid,

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the dollar bill, and why e the the plateau is
becoming more and more uh, prevalent in Western civilization media.
And I didn't even finish with the anti Semitism yet,
cause I have more to say on that. H. We're
not through with that yet. UH. Interesting Manly Palmer Hall

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did a little half a page on the eye and
the dollar bill, which I would like to read you
a sentence or two, because I think it has a
very powerful message for us, UH. Given the fact that
this is a interpretation in the West, the eye itself

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being uh a symbol of the sun in some quarters
of UH the ancient world, the eye of Horace was
of the eye of the sun. But the whole concept
of the sun bringing light into the world is paramount,
the whole idea of man being enlightened by the divine

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presence in the universe, or the sun what we call
the sun. He makes the point that the all seeing
eye represents the eternal watchfulness of the infinite. An apex
atop the platform, incidentally is thirty feet square. That's interesting,

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is a symbol of the unfinished work of the redemption
of humanity, imperfect man incomplete without the apex of his
divine nature. The all seeing eye on the dollar bill
is not situated on top of the pyramid, but floats
above it, for man has not yet affected his spiritual

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union with his material self. The pyramid structure represents the
building of society to a gradual perfection of human endeavor,
crown by the divine. Now be this an interpretation of
Western man or not? I think it applies here that

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ultimately what we as a human species are to work
toward as a gradual uplifting in our spirit, in our consciousness,
in our intellectual ability to comprehend spiritual things. And I
think that this is an adequate symbol for that work

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that is referred to by the Freemasons as the great work,
the great work of enlightening the world. Uh As Allan
Alfred did publicly a few days ago, made a hundred
and eighty degree turn in his understanding of things, I

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choose this day to do the same. So I am
going to publicly say, and I'm saying it not only
for the audience here, but to be on video from
this day on. Uh as a way this against me.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I am when I I have had for the longest
time a loathing for the concept of secret societies because
I feel I felt that if what you're doing is
important and good, then it should be known by everyone.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
It shouldn't be a secret society. And and then also
when contemplating the basis for modern day Freemasonry, the Scottish
and York Right Freemasonry of the Western world, the basis
for York and Scottish Rite Freemasonry being the British Grand Lodge.

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The mother Grand Lodge of all Western Freemasonry is the
British Grand Lodge. I was not particularly impressed with the
British Royalty or its Masonic secret societies and orders of power.
I believed them to have been racist and having agendas

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that they had not shared with all of us. And
so my feeling was that freemasonry was something that I
was very unhappy with. But in point of fact, I
have grown in my understanding to appreciate that at the
time that the orders of Masonry were in their infancy

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in the about the tenth eleventh, twelfth century, the Church dominated,
as I said, all of Europe, and it was not
a religious institution as much as it was a very
powerful political institution that had in mind the domination of
the world, whether they were, whether anyone wished it or not. Therefore,

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the Vatican dominated, and the Vatican at that time was
somewhat different than the Vatican today, not much, but somewhat.
And it was very dangerous, as as one politician has observed,
it's very dangerous to be right when your country is wrong.
It's very It was very dangerous in those days in

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the Middle Ages to speak of and to wish to
educate other people and to have an open mind. The
brain is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it's
not open. But during that time open minds were not
in vogue. There was a power that was accepted throughout

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the world, and that was the Vatican, the papacy, the Church.
But at that time there were those men who were
the scientists, the thinkers, the philosophers, and they saw fit
to protect themsels by secret associations which I can understand,

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and then being able to have a cursory understanding and
I'm looking forward to having a better understanding before I leave,
because I have not had a chance to talk with
Hakim the way I want to. But having a cursory
understanding of the secret brotherhood of the ancient priesthood, the

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ancient brotherhood tells me that true wisdom has been carried
down for thousands of years from millennia by a handful
of individuals that were worthy to carry the wisdom. Because

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it appears to me now that to give this kind
of spiritual wisdom to modern day man, or to mankind
in general, so many people are not ready to use
that kind of knowledge correctly and for the right purposes,
and using it and love to help the human family

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to grow, but would misuse it as we have seen
in America. Everywhere in the world that Europeans go, we
see the misuse of power and prestige and money. Well,
what more powerful tool in the hands of a man
than secret knowledge wisdom of the ancients. So I am

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at this moment saying that I have a different view
than that which I have expressed before, and I have
a high respect for the individuals who have brought themselves
into secret association to protect the divine knowledge and spiritual learning,

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and who want to make this knowledge available to those
who are prepared to accept it. Remember that when the
student is ready, the teacher will appear. These societies of
which Kim has helped me to understand, these societies of

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the priesthood, have never kept this knowledge in a clandestine way.
They protected it so as to give it to those
who were worthy to know, who wanted to know, who
were showing the correct spiritual foundations. To accept this kind

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of knowledge in the wrong hands could be very dangerous.
We have found that academic and what am I trying
to say that technology academics and technology without spiritual morality

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as a very dangerous thing. And so consequently, I, for
one appreciate the spiritual brotherhood who carries the wisdom that
we are hoping to receive when we're ready. And again
I pay tribute to my teacher, uh Kareem and others

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who have helped me to appreciate this better understanding of
the general subject of secret societies. Now that is not
to say that there aren't societies who are founded for
negative purposes, but uh, that seems to be the way

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of the world. But I am most interested now in
pursuing that wisdom, which I realize has been here from
day one, and that is readily uh available to anyone
who wishes it. Pre provided, of course, that you have
prepared yourself to be borne along by that spirit. You

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cannot go into the mysteries. The ancient mysteries were preconceived
ideas about what truth is. As I said, truth is
a very well it has been said before me. Truth
is a very subjective thing. So I consider that this
is something that we all need to start thinking in

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terms of putting away preconceived ideas, going before the divine
and asking for enlightenment, asking for guidance, and leaving it
at that. You'll be surprised what the Spirit can do
with you if you just put down all of your

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defenses and just make yourself available to the spirit and say,
help me to understand and watch what happens to you.
I am also persuaded that going into the Great Pyramid
may very well have some sort of a spiritual effect
on one. I cannot imagine that all of the tourists

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who have gone into the Pyramid have appreciated it correctly.
I think also, and this is just my opinion, since
no one asked for it, I'll give it, uh I am.
It is my opinion that the spirit will give to
whoever it chooses, whatever it chooses, For many are called,

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but few are chosen. The principal being is that it
will decide that divine presence in the universe that men
have called God, that one will decide what you will
know and what you will have and what you won't,
just as your parents knowing better than you as a child,

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what you should know and not know, what you should
be involved in and not be involved in. We are
children of God, we are children of the divine and
I think that that divine presence will decide for us,
according to our progress, what we will know and when
we will know it. Therefore, I think the wisest thing,

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and the wisest action, would be for us to try,
to the best of our ability, to prepare ourselves to
enter into a spiritual domain which is very holy. I
consider the Pyramid, the Sphinx, and this entire ancient land
to be holy. I think it is proven by the

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fact that all of the kings of the world have
come to this land, all of the great minds, mathematicians, scientists, philosophers,
all the great intellects of the world have pondered the
mysteries of Egypt. They haven't found them out yet. So
I have a very high respect for this people, this place,

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and the ability to be this close proximity to the
Great Pyramids. Uh. I it's a little after eleven. I
have some other subjects I'd like to get into. I
wanna go back and finish this anti Semitism thing that
I started. I think it is UH something that we

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need to look at because it's it. It is not
only devastating to UH Semitics, it is also the same
kind of thinking hatred, whatever is turned against all of us,
I mean the old There was a quote from the

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h from Nazi Germany. One Holocaust survivor I recall said
something to the effect that when they came for Catholics,
I was not a Catholic, so I really didn't care much.
And you know, when they came for the Protestants, I
not a prosidant or would I care. But when the

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powers that be finally came for me, there was no
one left to help to protect me. I think that
this is this is the problem. Too many people have
decided that because it doesn't affect me if I'm not Semitic,
it doesn't affect me when nothing could be further from

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the truth. The same mentality that would harm the family
across the street has no respect for you either. Entire
concept of racism, of the manipulation of people, exploitation of differences,
needs to be exposed for what it is. I believe

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that we are different. There are different cultures in the world.
There are different mannerisms in people, just as there are
differences in women, there are differences in men. But one
thing that does bind us together is that this earth
is a living entity and we are We're not passengers,

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We're part of the crew. We're part of this divine
creation of the earth. And so I think we need
to start respecting each other in it a lot better
because if not, chaos is going to reign in this world,
and those masters who manipulate chaos will come out the winners.

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We will be even more subject to tiltalitarian UH dictatorship.
I think it's a time for freedom. I love to
be free. I don't want to be the UH handmaiden
of a tiltalitarian dictatorship. And so that's when I'm saying
that the idea being is that we need to clean

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up this kind of thinking across the board, because it's
not just anti Semitism, it's the hatred of different races
and different peoples and the feeling of superiority among one
group over another. There is no such thing. And with that,
I would also add that I be. I get up sometimes,

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like at four thirty or five o'clock in the morning,
and stand and uh and observe the the city awakening.
And I see children on the street with uh little
things to sell, and I see tourists pushing them aside,
and that hurts me uh very much. I don't think

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for one minute that people who are visiting this land
should in any way mistreat the people who live here.
I think that if nothing else, I would be totally broke,
because I would give everything to the children. That's my feeling.

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But I don't think that we should. We should not
be that kind of person to look at a child
and consider him to be a pest because he's uh
a you know, trying to get our attention. I think
we ought to show more love and concern and consideration
for everybody, especially the children.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
UH.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Politics, first of all, I have no respect for politics.
That's basically what I could say on that. We're going
to another subject. U the very word politics polus gives
us the word politicians who make policy backed up by police.

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I mean, the whole thing is nothing more than some
way to control you. I wanna give you an example
of how clever, how clever the people at the top
of this world are. There are many things that and
this would especially apply to Americans. I think you will

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appreciate it, perhaps more than Europeans, but it just goes
to show you how clever people can be and they're
wanting to manipulate and exploit people. Uh. I am not
at an authority on this subject at all. I am
a novelst and I may have certain facts in correct,

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but the basics I want you to understand. In the
eighteen seventies, after the Civil War, there was a corporation founded. Uh.
There is a lot of documentation I can provide for
anyone later who wants to get the correct material, but
I'm just giving you a cursory understanding. There was a

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corporation found at eighteen seventies. It was incorporated.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
It was incorporated in Delaware, and the corporation's name like
Coca Cola and McDonald's. That corporation was referred to in
its corporate papers as the United States. Very clever, and
it was stipulated that UH, the employees of that corporation

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would not be called employees, but would be called UH citizens.
So that today in America they ask you if you
were a citizen of the United States. What you think
they are asking you is are you lawfully in the
country of America. That's not what they ask you. They

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ask you, are you a citizen of the United States? Means,
do you, of your own volition, out of your own mouth,
testify that you are a franchisee of a foreign corporation
incorporated in eighteen seventies on the International Maritime Amylty Law.
Are you, of your own volition, out of your own mouth,

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making yourself an employee of a foreign corporation called incidentally
United States HM? Consequently rather clever, I suspect. Consequently, that
opens up a whole can of worms. It shows that

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there is a corporation, a company that was founded, and
that we are merely franchisease of a foreign corporation. There's
all kinds of interesting things begin to come out. Once
you understand the principles. A classic example a terms and words.

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Are you aware that in the Ballentine's Law Dictionary nineteen
forty eight edition, if you look up the word human being,
go to a law library or to a large library
and look up Valentine's Law Dictionary and look up the
word human being and it will say see monster. So

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you look up the word monster, I wish I would
have brought it so I could have shown it to you,
And it says a monster is like a man or
a woman, but it's a human being, meaning lesser than
a man and a woman. Therefore it cannot inherit land.
It has certain things that cannot do because it's not

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a man or a woman, it's a human being. The
whole idea of words in terms, For instance, when you
go into a courtroom, why do they call it a courtroom?
Why did they say that you were going there for justice?
When the very word justice comes from the Emperor Justinian, Justinian,

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whatever his decision was, that was justice. So today we
have justice. Incidentally, are you aware of the fact that
the word we have something in America call a system
of justice. We have an educational system, a judicial system,

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a governmental system, how many people are aware that the
word system is a Latin word, comes from a Latin word,
and the Roman Empire, for the ser in ancient Rome
was merely referred to in Latin as the system. And
so today in America we are proud to say that

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we have a system, and we do It is a sore,
there's no doubt about that. I am saying that we
need to make ourselves aware of words, terms, concepts, ideas
and begin to do something probably you haven't done before.

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Go back and start researching where words and ideas have
come from. You will begin to appreciate that there's an
awful lot of things that we take for granted, that
we have no idea in the world where they came from,
and that somewhere along the line, unless we are ready

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to acknowledge the fact that true spirituality is not based
on Western man's religion, it is not based on Western
cosmological concepts. True spirituality must be traced back to its source.
And this is why the work of Lloyd Pie was

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so important to me, because I'm interested to know who
designed us the way we are, who put into us
the different factions within ourselves, who made us like we are,
and how did we get here. That's why I appreciated
so much of the different speakers bringing out the different

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points in relation to how we got here, where we're going,
and what the pyramids and such things represent. There were
so many different subjects that I like rambling on about.
I don't think that a question and answer is appropriate

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because I really don't have many answers for anything. So
I have all the questions, I don't have any the answers.
But uh, at this point, I'm going to uh, how
long do we? Uh? About forty minutes? Okay, you, I
think I will. But now criminal Oh yeah, yeah. If

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you if you're tried in the court in the Islamic Land,
you are on the Islamic justice. If you're tried in
the Middle Ages on the Rome, you were on the
Vatican justice Church justice system. In America, we have something
called a criminal justice system. The implications of the word
is that the criminals are administrating the justice. We have

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a criminal justice system. And if you think that is
by chance humorous, understand that the powers that be do
not choose words in terms lightly. These people know what
they're doing when they use terms and phrases and symbols

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they know what they're saying. I for one, take them
at their word. If they have a symbol that's on
a on a national coat of arms, if they have
a word or a term, I mean, why, for instance,
do the Roman priests wear black robes and judges wear

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black robes? Very interesting black robes. Black was the color
associated with the planet Saturn. Green was the color associated
with the planet Venus. Red is the color, of course,
associated with the planet Saturn. Black is the color red redlaw,

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That's why I'm sorry, That's what I meant. Even school
children know that red right red is the color associated
with Mars. But back to the UH the robe. Why
do the Catholic priests wear black robes? Why do you
wear a black robe when you graduate from UH high

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school or college and university? Whereas the word college comes
from comes from the College of Cardinals. The whole concept
of wearing a square black mortar board goes back to Mecca.
The square, the black square in Mecca, which is surrounded
by the circle. It has to do with a very

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ancient symbolism, but how it has been used by the
West and UH and misrepresented by the West. UH. If
you think about the word court going back to the
the judges who wear black robes and courts. The whole
idea in a court is too uh is like is

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like tennis. The whole idea in a court is put
the ball back in the other guy's court. And you
do that with a racket, because the whole thing is
a racket. Yeah, And the very word UH. If you
look up in a legal dictionary, look up the word
a turn, att you are in And a turn was
used in the Middle Ages for the person who would

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take property at the instigation of the king or the
or the magistrate. He would take the property from one
person and turn it over to another. He was called
an a turn. And today that's what attorneys do. They
take property from one and give it to another. Cease

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it to be uh. I I would say suffice it
to say, I have probably a list of of UH
people or institutions which I abhor. The top one is attorneys.
I have no respect for attorneys, and the reason why

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is because they have misused their ability and they have
misrepresented themselves around the world. They have misrepresented what they
are actually representing. When you use the word law, what
law again? You go back to terms and words attorneys.

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There's a very big difference between an attorney, or between
the word legal and lawful. Things which are legal do
not necessarily mean that they're lawful. Uh. Why do you
have to have a license, for instance? Uh, you have
to have a marriage license because the state is a
part of your marriage and a marriage license. Now, if

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you find someone that you want to marry, that's wonderful,
and if you wanna get married before God, that's that's
also wonderful, But you better get a license from the
state first. And if the marriage doesn't work, you can
go to God, but you're going to court first. Because

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the whole concept of marriage, the whole concept of contracts,
the whole entire idea of business in the world is
based on contracts, courts, lawyers, so that the entire world
in the Western world is based on a contract. This

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is why there's a difference between being English and British.
The word bret comes from the Hebrew word bare bareth
and Hebrew means a contract or a covenant, and ish
in Hebrew means man or men can be singular or plural. Therefore,
bareth Ish becomes British, the man of the covenant, the

(01:22:58):
covenant men, what are we talking about. We're talking about
a new covenant. The new Covenant is, of course the
New Testament of the Bible, the new Covenant, or a
new contract from God to man to rule the world
or to rule the earth, which brings me back to
something I did want to finish and I didn't, And

(01:23:19):
that was the whole concept of God's kingdom. In the
year and again, our prephacies come as by saying, I
am not the world's foremost authority, but I will provide
you with the material if you're interested. In the year
twelve thirteen, the Pope of Rome signed a concordant contract

(01:23:44):
treaty with the King of England, and the year twelve
thirteen signed a treaty with the King of England which
said basically this that since Jesus Christ is the Messiah
who owns that all things were created by and through him,
Therefore all things which exist on the earth and in

(01:24:07):
the universe are owned by the Messiah Jesus Christ. Since
that is the case, then the actual ownership of the
earth and all life on it belongs to Jesus Christ.
But since he is not here right now, someone needs

(01:24:29):
to stand in for him and The word in Latin
is vicar, which basically means someone who stands in for.
So the Pope appointed himself as vicar of Christ, who's
standing in for Jesus. Jesus has the right to own
the whole world. But since he's not here yet, he's
busy right now elsewhere, somebody has to be the dirty job,

(01:24:54):
has to follow someone. So the Pope decided that he
will own the whole world. You think that's it's funny,
that's the law. That was an actual treaty drawn up
in Rome with the King of England. Then the whole earth,
with all of its life and possessions being owned by

(01:25:17):
the papacy for Jesus being owned by the Pope was
then put into a trust, was put into a trust,
and the King of England was made the trustee in
trust of the Trust for Christ, so that the King
of England then becomes known as King of Kings and

(01:25:38):
Lord of Lords. Therefore, the papacy, as of even this
very day, still maintains that the Pope owns the world,
and that the King of England is King of Kings
and Lord of Lords, and will remain so until Jesus
comes back. And in point of fact fact at the

(01:26:01):
coronation of the King of England. At the coronation of
the King of England, the Archbishop of Canterbury says something
to the effect I don't have it in front of me,
but something to the effect that the King of England
is accepting the position as King of Kings and Lord
of Lords for Jesus Christ, and until such time as

(01:26:23):
Jesus Christ comes back to the earth, the King of
England is the King of all kings and the Lord
of all lords. A rather adventurous position to put yourself into.
But this points up the point I wish to make

(01:26:44):
is that there is a fact of the matter that
the Church in fact is the basis for international maritime
admiralty or corporate high seas law, the law of business,
period and the business of money floats all governments. This

(01:27:12):
is why I would recommend and suggest, This is why
I would suggest that governments and institutions under governments, educational institutions,
banking institutions are hesitant to have anything to do with

(01:27:32):
the findings of a of a of Christopher or Stephen
or any of the other speakers, and any of the
other many researchers around the world which are on the
cunning edge of new technologies and new understandings and new sciences,
and also takes in the UFO community. This, I believe

(01:27:55):
is the reason why governments an institution of education have
for many many years looked the other way and will
not accept the new paradigm. It's because behind international maritime admiralty,

(01:28:15):
corporate business, money law is the Vatican. And unless and
until you understand the thoroughness of what I'm saying, you're
never going to understand why governments and educational institutions continually

(01:28:35):
will not refuse to see the new evidences. It's because
the church is at stake. And if the church is
at stake, so is money, so as corporate law, so
as the whole entire world system, which is based on

(01:28:57):
corporate or canon law. What we have here are a
few pioneers who are faced with trying to bring spiritual
and intellectual knowledge of the past into a world that
is dominated by powerful criminal syndicates. I had an FBI

(01:29:20):
man about seven years ago, and and I was in
Los Angeles. He was in another large city in the
state of California. I was in Los Angeles, and I
got a phone call one one day from a FBI man,
from an FBI officer, and he uh agent. And he

(01:29:42):
said to me, he said, we have been watching and
listening to you from day one, and I you know,
and he says, but we have no problem with what
you do. At this point, you are not considered and
I'm trying to remember how he said this. He said,
at this point you are not considered to be a

(01:30:04):
threat to the authorities. But if that day comes, you
will be dealt with accordingly. I said, yes, I understand,
that's right. And so he said to me, when you
when you speak harshly of government and banking, which I do,

(01:30:31):
he said, and this is an FBI agent, He said,
when do you speak harshly in public of government, A
certain amount of that is allowable. You know, they don't mind,
they're not offend, they're not going to affect anything. They're
not gonna believe anyway, and decides where they're gonna do

(01:30:51):
what they did believe right, And he said, but and
this was his words, and I remember 'em well, cause
I was really rather scared of what he called, cause
I was not expecting to be talking to an FBI agent.
He said, when you and I I take an oath
that this was the word that he said. When you

(01:31:13):
speak of the church, what you're talking about is organized
crime at the highest level in our country. You're talking
about money, political power, sult. He says. So, as long

(01:31:34):
as you are perceived to be uh an individual on
a soapbox, no one is going to be UH concerned
about you. No one is threatened. But if you begin
to be heard, not listened to, but heard, and if

(01:31:56):
that becomes the case that you are becoming known and
being heard, then you will be dealt with accordingly. So
I want you to know that we and the FBI
did not consider you to be a threat, but just
know that will come a day if you do succeed
in what you're doing. So that was a I already

(01:32:21):
had formulated my own thoughts about quote the church end quote,
but at that point that was startling to hear someone
say that this is not to cast dispersions on the

(01:32:42):
Christian theology. Now, as a matter of fact, if you
wanted to get serious about Christianity, then I would suggest
you start right here with Coptic Christianity, because that's where
it all began. I mean, if you really want to
get serious about the faith. So I have no p
with the faith. I have a problem with what has

(01:33:04):
become known as the military industrial complex of business in America. UH.
I believe that somewhere along the line, we're gonna have
to begin to look at all of those institutions that
are running the world and the people behind the scenes
who own them. I have a very big and a
very strong spiritual uh place in my life for the divine.

(01:33:29):
I had no time for religion, government, big business, et cetera.
But having said all of that, I think the way
that I would conclude again is that I do not
consider myself to be an authority, because I have found
that the more that I learned, the more I don't know,

(01:33:51):
and the more it becomes apparent to me that uh,
I am merely like everyone else on a journey. And
from the time that I began. I began this my
my quest, my spiritual quest, many many years ago, and
as I said, I've had many experiences that have caused

(01:34:12):
me to be and think the way I do. I
I have for many many years been on this quest.
Nineteen fifty nine is when I begin So I've been
doing this kind of thing for forty years but it's
only the last twelve years that I've gone public with
what I believe is the work that I've been given

(01:34:32):
to do. And I'll clarify that for you. My work,
I believe, is not to present an intelligent in uh
detailed presentation, but it is quite simply to confront the
organized world and say you're wrong. There are things which

(01:34:52):
you don't know, or what you do know that you
have concealed, and we need to start thinking in the
whole new way about who we are and where we're going.
And so I put myself out on the line to
do nothing but just that, just calling people's attention to
the fact that we do not know everything, and that
we had better start showing respect for the spirit and

(01:35:15):
for wisdom, and that wisdom is encoded and being held
by priest and the holy Men of which we are
uh privileged to have one among us. And again I
wanna thank you for your time and for hearing me.
And I think that's it. And if you do have
any questions, I'll try and answer 'em.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
I have not, yes, sir, oh yeah, oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Devil is uh no, the word devil is simply putting
d in front of the word evil becomes devil. God
is simply taking an O out of good and becomes God.
God is good and devil is evil. Actually God, the
word God comes from a German Gothic. The German word
goth gootch God Goth gives us the word God. And

(01:36:23):
devil is nothing more, as I said, than the personification
of evil. So I do not believe in God in
the classic sense of the term, or devil in the
way it is understood. I do believe that there is
a very powerful spirit or a force let loose in

(01:36:44):
the nature of things, which has evil as its intent.
So I have a very high respect for that. I
don't think though that well. I'll tell you why, because
when I was like nine years old, and I was
being fired in the Catholic Church UH confirmation and a
young boy nine years old gets confirmed, and in the

(01:37:07):
confirmation ceremony UH, the bishop was in UH officiating, and
after these ceremonies were over, he asked the children and
the church, and it was a very big affair because
my family was connected to the Vatican, so everybody was
there to see my confirmation, and we were warned by

(01:37:28):
the nuns and by the priest. If the bishop ask you, uh,
if you have any questions. If you ask any you
know you're gonna get hurt. Just keep your mouth shut
and set and play down. Okay. So the bishop asked
the children, do you have any questions? So I raised
my hand. Nobody else did. I raised my hand, said yeah,
I got a question. And I said, can I My

(01:37:50):
father works with torches, He's like a welder. Can I
take a torch and burn a spirit? Burn an angel?
And he says no? And I said what why not?
Would it hurt him if I burned him? And he
said well no, And I said why not? He said, well,
because you can't burn a spirit. Why not? He said,
well because fire as a as a natural phenomena, has

(01:38:12):
to have something like wood or a paper or something
to burn. You can't burn a spirit. And I said,
well no, Why am I worrying about going to hell
if my spirit can't burn? Yeah? And the nuns standing

(01:38:34):
on the side by the church said, you I care.
That's great. So I I grew up knowing that the
system of theology is a way to control your actions.
Blessed on the meat. Well, they're easy to control. The

(01:38:57):
point being is that we we need to understand that
spirituality is a very powerful thing and people need to
get in tune with it. Uh. I. I have the
highest of respect for the Christian theology, but it has
been misrepresented uh far too far and needs to be redefined.

(01:39:23):
Oh the black ropes. Well, as I said, black was
a color associated with the planet Saturn and Saturn, the
Saturnalian influence. Incidentally, the planet Saturn influences science, philosophy, politics, government. Uh.

(01:39:44):
Saturn one of the old symbols for us, and one
of the old names for the planet Saturn was L.
A long time ago, L was Saturn and consequently, if
your God Saturn has appointed you, you became one of
the elect And of course, the whole spiritual power of

(01:40:06):
L we today referred to as electricity, that common denominator
that makes the juice operate. It's the juice that makes
all things operate L electricity. This is why money is
referred to as currency. It's the juice that makes things work.

(01:40:26):
It's a current. And incidentally, as much as I hate banking,
I have to admit that the Federal Reserve and the
irs in America are necessary evils given the circumstances under
which America exists. It of course would be better if

(01:40:48):
neither one existed. But the whole idea is like the
breath of Siva, the breathing out, the breathing in. Everything
breeds in and out, in and out. Therefore, the breathing
out of the currency is from the Federal Reserve, which

(01:41:08):
prints the money. It's paper that breathes out into society.
Now it has to take a breath in, which is irs.
It's got to be pulled back in and then put
out and pulled back in. Why Because it's currency, it's
a alternating current. The idea being, of course, is if

(01:41:32):
you just keep putting money out, everything will become totally
worthless in a couple of weeks, and the whole system
comes falling down because for the first time everybody will
finally understand it's just paper. So you've got to make
it look important by taking it back from people. So

(01:41:52):
it's a breathing in and breathing out again. It's just currency.
I'm fascinated by the use of words in terms. As
a matter of fact, when you go into a courtroom.
When you go into a courtroom, you will see the
judge sits on high he sets up higher than you.
That's so the law can look down on you, and

(01:42:14):
you can look up to the law. And the judge
is said to sit on the bench or rule from
the bench. Look up the word bench. It's a Latin
word for a bank. So therefore the judge rules for
the bank. This is why you cannot interrupt a church
service or a courtroom. Uh procedure. You can be arrested

(01:42:35):
for doing both. Why because of international maritime law says
you cannot in any way interfere with the exchange of money.
You're doing business here. A courtroom is a business. The
judge rules from the bench or bank, So you're conducting business.
M yes, yes, basic to words or those or the

(01:43:04):
ceybargs into how prison you know what's when you greads
people secrets of safety, you bec a the oldest gust.
Sure it's yeah, it's like it's like the gang warfare.
And Uh Los Angeles or any big city in America. Uh,
they spray graffiti. Uh those symbols mean something only to

(01:43:28):
those who are on the same level, only to those
people who know how to read the symbols. And I've
said for a long time that, uh, the words and
terms and symbols that are used in our country and
throughout the world are like letters of the alphabet. If
you don't if you put them together, the symbols together,
and know what they mean and what they're what they imply, Uh,

(01:43:52):
you're never going to figure out who's running what. But
I mean, I some of the most outrageously overwhelmingly obvious
stuff is uh is occurring in American People don't even
see it. When you dry by an Arco and you
see ARCO sign in America, the arc or oil, it's
on it's on the it's on the angle. It's a squared.

(01:44:12):
It's a square on the angle. But if you square
the square, it becomes the Knights of Malta cross. Uh,
it's a f And so many times you will see
symbols and emblems, national coats of arms and holler tree
as I said, and corporate logos all can be traced
back to secret societies, fraternal orders. I mean, it's Uh,

(01:44:34):
it's an amazing world we live in. All but the
most see it again, all the illness or well do you? Oh?
I think that the that the that the people at
the top are aware. It's the ninety nine percent of
the masses that don't even know they're alive, don't know
what these symbols mean. So many people just go daily

(01:44:57):
in their chores and have no idea in the world.
Then when you well into a service station. Uh, why
there are seven major oil companies?

Speaker 6 (01:45:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
Why do they call 'em the seven Sisters? Why? Uh
you know why s three so very important? Why do
we have a trilateral whire? Is the whole world based
on try or three? There's a lot of There's a
lot of things like that that people in in the
know are obviously aware of. It's just that we are

(01:45:26):
We aren't gym wor Oh think you I go on?

(01:45:46):
That was the the floor of the spirit. Yes, similarities.
Oh well that's that's now. That's a big star. That's
a big subject. Uh. Basically, that whole subject is something
that is referred to as astro theology. Uh, the ancient

(01:46:11):
at the ancient spiritual interpretation of the ancient mysteries as
they are incorporated into our modern day religions. Uh. The
whole idea about uh the son of God, Jesus being
the son our God's son. Uh. In the Oxford Dictionary
of the English Language, if you look up the word

(01:46:32):
s u n. You will see it was originally from
the Germanic, because English is a low form of German.
The English language comes from the German and in the
Germanic language, the uh, that thing which comes up in
the morning is spelled s o n n e r
s o n. And this is why your boy, your offspring,

(01:46:54):
is your son. He's the light of your life. He
represents life everlasting. Why because he he will have a son,
and his son will have a son. And therefore, as
long as as as each son has a son, then
there will always be life on the earth. I mean
not for you, but for but through your lineage.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
The whole concept is the It's a fascinating study when
you get into the symbolism of the sun and how
it has been used in modern day governments. I mean, God, dog,
if you think about all the symbols and emblems on colleges, universities, schools,

(01:47:37):
police departments, fire departments, Uh, all of the emblems and
power and education, theology government that uses the sun. The
son is used everywhere. Truly, it is the king of
kings and lord of lords, the son. And he dies
with the crown of thorns. Of course, like the statue

(01:47:59):
of liberty with a crown of thorns. It's the sunburst
the corona. That's why a king is as may king
at a coronation comes from the word corona. He is
crown with the glory of the sun. Uh. He has
you know, he had twelve helpers or twelve followers. Of course,

(01:48:19):
the twelve followers were nothing more than the twelve signs
of the zodiac, of the twelve hours of day.

Speaker 5 (01:48:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
He took twelve steps across heaven a horace did, or
the sun went twelve steps across heaven twelve Uh. Different
horses spelled h O r us. We turn it around,
it becomes twelve hours h O u r s and
uh horse. And the beginning was rising, you know, and

(01:48:48):
we still say horse is rising this morning. You know.
He comes up on the horse rising, and and at
night he goes down and he becomes the evil Brother.
And he and his the was called satin. So we
see the evil Brother come out at night, and he
comes out at sunset. Uh. It's a it's a fascinating
play on words. But the bottom line, and I'm not

(01:49:11):
the authority on theology, but the bottom line, I believe
on all of this going back into the ancient world
can be nailed down to one simple concept, the war
between light and darkness, period intellectual and spiritual darkness and

(01:49:35):
the f and the war between darkness and the coming
of new light. New light and light has always had
to fight off the forces of darkness. We still are,
we're still trying.

Speaker 5 (01:49:48):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
We have uh great authors and great teachers and men
who are trying to bring intellectual and enlightenment to a
world filled with darkness. Incidentally, the Bible has Jesus making
an interesting statement, something to the effect that if you
say that you are in the light, but in fact

(01:50:10):
you are in the dark, then how dark your light
really is? Interesting concept, and that was something caught me
many years ago. If you say that you're intellectually enlightened,
but in point of fact you're not, You're actually in
the dark, then how dark your light really is? Meaning

(01:50:35):
that it would be better for you to say that
you know nothing, because everyone knows you know nothing, right,
God knows that you know nothing, and it would be
better for you to admit going in that you know nothing.
Then there's room now for you to become enlightened. But

(01:50:55):
if you say that you're in the light, then the
divine saying to you, I hope you are, cause if
we find out you're not, you got some serious problems.
Now you come on up here and you show me
how much light you say you got, and you better
have it, cause if you play dumb and act like

(01:51:15):
what you really are, you'll informed and unread. And if
you really are humble, then there's room to invite you
to come into the light. But if you've already got it,
then there's no room for hope for you. So I
think that this is a a very uh safe place
for us to be. Assume we do not know virtually

(01:51:38):
anything about the divine, and listen to those who are
trying to help us to enlighten us spiritually. And again
I draw the attention to a holy man that's with
us today. Uh yes, Green yep, really enjoined your talk.

Speaker 5 (01:52:01):
And I wanna say, uh, as far as the because
of the keys or are the ones whole things with them?

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Musician, yes, or.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
The positive it's been a very bitter sweet journey.

Speaker 6 (01:52:15):
I think that, and I and I I I I'm
grateful that you point out that the real keys are
within we a be as set and and that's the
only time to know when this is, when it's ready
to start opening.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
But it's.

Speaker 5 (01:52:31):
It's there. I mean, it's something because we're considering things
in our.

Speaker 6 (01:52:35):
Own personal philosophies, and six months ago, six years ago,
ten years ago, we've never dream of entertaining the notion.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
I'm right, and.

Speaker 5 (01:52:46):
I would like it some of the frustration. It's like,
you know, if your five year old wants to fly
a a jet, they wanna fly a plane.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
You don't just have the key.

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
So I'm grateful you mentioned.

Speaker 7 (01:52:59):
That, and I just have to say they can't before interested.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Daughters, daughter and daughter. Genesis six one makes an interesting statement.
I don't know, maybe I'm reading something into it. It's
not there. Genesis six one says, and when men begin
to multiply upon the face of the earth, and daughters

(01:53:37):
were born unto them? And you look at the word men,
and that means just that men and daughters. Well, first
of all, how do men begin to multiply on the
face of the earth without without women? And second of all,
how uh, how were daughters daughters born unto them?

Speaker 7 (01:54:00):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
I'm not sure, but I'll I'll tell you. There's just
an awful lot in the Bible that we do not
correctly understand in the beginning in Genesis one fourteen, and
this is one of my favorite subjects of occultism in
the Bible. In Genesis one fourteen, the Bible says that
God created the sun and the moon and the stars,

(01:54:23):
and they were called the less luminaries. And it says,
and let them the stars, the moon, and the sun,
let them serve as signs comma and for seasons and
for years. The word signs is from a Hebrew word
for horoscope zodiac, so let them serve as signs. And

(01:54:44):
Hebrew the word signs was horoscope. Then when you begin
to go in through the Bible and see that there
would be great signs in the heavens and great signs
from God always the word and the Old Testament Hebrew
was signs in relation to astrological zodeological signs. I think

(01:55:06):
there is a profound amount of evidence to show that
both the Old and New Testament is nothing more than
a profoundly highly tuned and highly honed understanding of astrology.
And unless and until we are able to appreciate that
the planets affect us, we're never going to figure out

(01:55:30):
why things are the way they are. We are aware.
For instance, we are aware that the moon is able
to pull the tides of the Earth. The tides are
caused by the moon. The moon has the ability to
pull water. Since you're over ninety percent water yourself, could

(01:55:53):
it affect you? We know it affects the cycle and
a female the moon does. We know that there are
cycles that the ancients knew when to plant and when
not to plant.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
All of the holy days in the ancient Hebrew system
were based on agriculture, the harvest, the cycles of the moon,
the new moon, the full moon, et cetera. So uh
I if if if the moon is able to pull
the tides of the Earth, then maybe it also affects you,
and that's why they call you a lunar tic. Also, also,

(01:56:30):
I don't know if you know this or not, this
was an interesting point that I found out not too
long ago that the uh planet Jupiter actually pulls the
Sun three degrees out of arbit wherever it goes. The point,
for my understanding is that if Jupiter here, the Sun

(01:56:53):
has moved three degrees closer to it. When it's over here,
it has moved three degrees this way when it's back here,
it through those three degrees. This way, the idea is
that the planet Jupiter exerts enough gravitational force feel on
the Sun to pull it three degrees out of orbit.

(01:57:14):
If that is true, then that tells me that the
planet Jupiter is a very powerful influence on the rest
of the Solar System, not to mention all the other planets. Well,
if it can affect the Sun, maybe Jupiter affects you.
Maybe we are affected when we come out of our

(01:57:36):
mother's water. Maybe we are affected the moment we are
born with influences that we're not even aware of. I mean,
the whole idea of your mother's water breaking and you're
coming out into a new life. You've been surrounded by

(01:57:57):
water and protected, but coming out into the world for
the first time, you know, we we're being bombarded by
all kinds of rays and and uh, television and radio
and all the other rays that we have produced. Well,
what about the influences of the planets? Do they affect us?
According to the Bible, they do, And according to my

(01:58:21):
personal belief, they do. Uh, it doesn't matter if it
does or not. It's I believe they do. And I
think a very good case can be made for it,
and again the Bible makes that case. Yes, oh yes,

(01:58:43):
Well in relation to the big shots putting the capstone
on the pyramid, I think it's a waste of their time.
I don't think that divine presence in the universe gives
the damn right thing may blow up on 'em. Yeah, yes, right,

(01:59:07):
m m oh yes.

Speaker 6 (02:00:01):
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