November 10, 2025 • 32 mins
Jordan Maxwell | The Voice of Alien Contact, Watchers, and the Hidden Ones.
Jordan Maxwell was one of the boldest researchers to ever speak openly about extraterrestrial life and humanity’s ancient contact with non-human intelligences. From the Watchers of the Book of Enoch to modern government cover-ups, aliens and UFOs he traced a continuous thread of strange visitations, unexplained lights, and entities influencing human history from behind the veil.
Jordan didn’t just talk UFOs, he explored their spiritual implications: who these beings are, where they come from, and why they have always been here. He challenged the world to consider that humanity’s story is much older, stranger, and more cosmic than we’ve been taught.
Jordan Maxwell has spent his life exploring the unseen architecture of reality, the symbols, stories, and cosmic forces that shape humanity from the shadows. His work bridges astrotheology, ancient religions, secret societies, extraterrestrial encounters, aliens, UFOs and the esoteric foundations of Christianity, revealing a universe far stranger and more interconnected than most ever imagine.
For decades, Jordan illuminated how the heavens guided ancient mythmakers, how sacred texts concealed astronomical and spiritual codes, and how non-human intelligences have accompanied humanity since the dawn of time. His work shows that behind every religious ritual, political symbol, and celestial myth lies a deeper truth waiting to be uncovered. Jordan Maxwell is not just a researcher, he is a keeper of forgotten knowledge.
His teachings, interviews and lectures continue to inspire seekers who feel the pull toward hidden wisdom, cosmic spirituality, and the mysteries that bind heaven, earth, and the worlds beyond.
Spirit Realm: Angels Demons, Spirits and the Sovereignty of God (Foreword by Jordan Maxwell) https://amzn.to/31g9ydR
Jordan Maxwell was one of the boldest researchers to ever speak openly about extraterrestrial life and humanity’s ancient contact with non-human intelligences. From the Watchers of the Book of Enoch to modern government cover-ups, aliens and UFOs he traced a continuous thread of strange visitations, unexplained lights, and entities influencing human history from behind the veil.
Jordan didn’t just talk UFOs, he explored their spiritual implications: who these beings are, where they come from, and why they have always been here. He challenged the world to consider that humanity’s story is much older, stranger, and more cosmic than we’ve been taught.
Jordan Maxwell has spent his life exploring the unseen architecture of reality, the symbols, stories, and cosmic forces that shape humanity from the shadows. His work bridges astrotheology, ancient religions, secret societies, extraterrestrial encounters, aliens, UFOs and the esoteric foundations of Christianity, revealing a universe far stranger and more interconnected than most ever imagine.
For decades, Jordan illuminated how the heavens guided ancient mythmakers, how sacred texts concealed astronomical and spiritual codes, and how non-human intelligences have accompanied humanity since the dawn of time. His work shows that behind every religious ritual, political symbol, and celestial myth lies a deeper truth waiting to be uncovered. Jordan Maxwell is not just a researcher, he is a keeper of forgotten knowledge.
His teachings, interviews and lectures continue to inspire seekers who feel the pull toward hidden wisdom, cosmic spirituality, and the mysteries that bind heaven, earth, and the worlds beyond.
Spirit Realm: Angels Demons, Spirits and the Sovereignty of God (Foreword by Jordan Maxwell) https://amzn.to/31g9ydR
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
I've totally convinced myself that reptilian aliens live with us.
I've never seen one, Thank god, I've seen enough crap
in my life to know that there's a lot of
strange stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Going on in this world we're not aware.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of, so it doesn't surprise me. But halfway, I've never
seen one. But I'm totally convinced that reptilians do exist
because I have heard too many people who are very
highly intelligent, professional people that don't know that do not
know each other, give me their tell me about their
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experiences that they've had one on one with reptile aliens,
and all of.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Them are very credible people that if they went into.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
A court and testified against you, you have a hell
of a problem trying to make them a liar, because
there are eyewitnesses to this, and so they've told me
as eyewitness of what has happened to them about they're
run ins with reptile aliens, airline people, bankers, real estate executives, doctors.
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So I just feel there's too much smoke not to
be a fire. And then when you add to that
all of the thousands of years of history of all
the different cultures that talk about reptile aliens. Put that
with it, and I'm of the opinion that I wouldn't
be a bit surprised that there is somebody to it,
because I do know that so much of what's really
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going on on this earth we are not privy to see,
we're not privileged to see a lot of stuffies happen.
I would say a classic example what I'm talking about
as ye have you interview Ever heard of skin Walk
or Ranch? Yeah, y, yeah, skim Walker Ranches in northern Utah.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's an area in northern Utah that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
There's just an extraordinary story of what's happening there, and
it has been happened, has been happening.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
For hundreds of years.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But now that uh, certain scientific people have gotten involved, Uh,
it's become extraordinary the kind of things they're recording and
bringing out now and bringing to the public. That's been
happening there for hundreds of years. But skim Walker Ranch
is owned by some people who finally sold.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It cause they couldn't take anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And they're seeing on that ranch daytime and night, all
kinds of things happening. It's kind of like a vortex
for the occult world. Let's say reptile aliens, dinosaurs, animals
six or the dogs would have their backs at six
foot high, dogs, aliens, UFOs coming on the ground. And
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all of this is being scientifically photographed and filmed, and
there's an incredible amount of off to wall strange stuff
going on on that ranch continually. So obviously there is
another world that's operating with us simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And so all the things that the ancient people have
talked about, these aliens and demons and.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Half animal, half humans, all these different things that the
ancient cultures.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Have talked about, and.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
These Samerians drew pictures of these hideous creatures.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Are half human and half animal.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I've always thought, now, maybe those things did it really exist?
And so I'm of the opinion that this stuff does
really exist because I've had way too many experiences of
my own that showed me that there is a world
going on right now simultaneously with us that we're not
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privy to know about. Once in a while, it will
happen to you and you will see something that you've
never experienced before in your life. And the more I
talk to people around town, you'd be surprised. I mean,
ordinary people tell me extraordinary things that they've seen in
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their life, and they don't know how to explain it.
But it just adds one more nailed to the coffin,
one more thing that I've never heard of. That's here.
I was just talking to my good friend Tom some
nightclubs in Los Angeles, and I was down to his
club and we were talking about what I'm doing, and
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he said, one night a couple of the city council
and from Los Angeles City Council came over and they
had some police there, and they were having some drinks
after hours at this club in downtown. And he said,
we're sitting out in the patio and he said, we're
all sitting out to all these politicians and police chiefs
and everybody and enjoying the evening. And he says that
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while we're talking, over our head came some kind of
an aluminous greenish looking ball with a long tail. And
he said, it just swam over us and swam around. Well,
we watched it and then swam on through the air
and swam on and went all out into the city
and was gone. And he said, everybody saw that, and
he thought, what the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And nobody knew.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's just one example of the kind of thing that
I'm talking about. You know, there's all kinds of strange
things going on right down in front of us that
we don't see, and every now and then you'll see something.
So again I think that during to this idea of reptilians.
But the point I want to make on this one is, well,
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show you are there reptilian aliens among us? I would
say yes, obviously in movies, television shows that are always
showing these reptile alien creatures and motion pictures. Again, I
am totally convinced for myself that Hollywood makes movies based
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on real things. Steven Spielberg, in one of his interviews
a couple of years ago, he said that I don't
make movies to entertain. I make movies to comment on
important subjects. I don't make movies to entertain. Well, he's
made all kinds of movies about reptile aliens and Jurassic
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Park and ets and extraterrescuals and all kinds of stuff
like that he's famous for.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And if he's not making those kinds of movies to to.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He's making them to comment upon an important subject. So
even the likes of Stephen Spielberg feel this is important.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Incidentally, if you can imagine how.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Much money it costs to finance Steven Spielberg to make
a ninety minute movie, if you can just magic, if
you contract with him to be the executive producer to
pay for a movie that he produces, can you imagine
how much money it's gonna cost you?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Because he doesn't go cheap. Well, he made a.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Nineteen hours television series nineteen Hours. Somebody financed him to
the tune of nineteen hours to Steven Spielberg to make
a television series called Taken, in which that was one
of his most important subjects in his life. Is this
concept of aliens taking people, not just with Coyle aliens,
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but the whole concept of other world entities coming and
kidnapping humans.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And so it was called Taken.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, the movie Taken was was actually comes from a
book by doctor Carla Turner, a lady doctor who was
probably the best UFO researcher in the world, or as
I'm concerned, she was top of everybody, all the best
USO researchers, But doctor Carla Turner was in my opinion,
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she was a doctor Faubl you know, some kind of
a doctor before, but she got into the alien abduction
subject and what her work was just phenomenal. She did
some serious work on this whole subject of alien abduction
and she began to get into the connections between the
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US government and alien presence and how the US government
is working directly with aliens. Soon after that, she was
found dead and her husband died later. Immediately after that
came out, she started talking publicly about the fact that
the US government is in is dealing directly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
With aliens and allowing these aliens.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
To kidnap children, to kidnap people, knnop humans, and using
them for experiments.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
She was found dead when you was at.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm not sure too many years ago, and I still
have our lectures. As a matter of fact, our lectures
are on the web right now. Just still to Google
video and type in doctor Carler k A R LA
Carler Turner and listen to her and tell me if
it doesn't run shows up and down your spine and
listening to this lady, she's very, very knowledgeable. She knew
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what she was talking about, and she's talking about the
fact that when you hear people.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Talking about these aliens, some of them being kind.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And good to us, etc. She said, you better go
back and do your homerk. This whole entire scenario of
alien presence. Are any teens from somewhere else who have
come here into your planet, in to your life, And no,
we don't know what they're objective is and what their
what their objects are, So it's foolish to think that
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any of them are dear and in good, in good
and betefactors. We don't know who they are or where
they've come from. Undoubtedly people in government though, but they're
not talking.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, she found out a lot and that's why she's dead.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But as I said, Hollywood is telling us a lot
of things about the world and they put it into movies.
And so the reptile alien has been around for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
In TV shows and even more so.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
M This was in Time Machine, so reptile aliens. And
then of course, as uh as you know, in the
both V the first movie V and the second one,
these were reptile aliens who presented themselves as beautiful people,
highly intelligent, very highly advanced, and the humans were taken
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in by them. Humans wanting to be on the side
of the winter. So, and if you remember I talked
about the dawn of a New Day and one of
my videos, and in the and in V the second one,
they talked about exactly what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They were going to say.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
They said in V that there was a dawn of
a new day in which the whole world was coming
under a new world order.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And I've said for years at the symbol or the
new world order was the dawn of a new day.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And I had the video came out and talked about
that months before this came out.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So there is something too, an idea that Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And government, military are totally aware that there is an
alien connection going on right now in point of fact,
uh and and Hollywood is putting it out into movies,
military is doing it undercover, and government.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Is acting like there's nothing nothing to it at all.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But I think that there's something very very frightening going on.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think we are being invaded.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No concept of the reptile alias look like humans, well,
that's not new.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, that's even in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The Bible says God being banned in his own image
and likeness. And I've talked of all that. I've talked
to so many rabbis about this subject. First of all,
the word God in the Bible and Genesis one one
when it says in the beginning God created heavens in
the earth. The word God is el Loohem is a
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feminine plural. It's not one God, it's God's more than one.
And then when you get into what kind of gods,
well they were they were supposedly according to Hebrews, they
had scales. They were scaly gods, the Eldlohem who created us.
So then we could talk about that too. I've got
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a lot of stuff on that. But the whole idea
is that these reptile aliens are in motion pictures. They're
in sci fi magazines, of course, they were everywhere, and
almost all of them have a ridge on their skulls,
a raised a plange.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Or ridge on their heads.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I thought that was interesting a long time ago, and
I picked up on that and started doing some research
on that that this or this raised port part on
the head of the skull. Of course, we have the
history of reptile aliens. It'd probably one of the most
interesting books. And there's so many books on the history
of reptile aliens on the Earth. But this one's called
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Flying Sauces and Dragons, The Story of Mankind's Reptilian Paths.
And this is published by book Tree Publishing, our dear
friends here who publish our books for us in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's called Flying Serpents and Dragons.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Excellent book on tracing the ancient history, medieval history, and
modern day history of aliens interacting with humans.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Reptile aliens interacting with humans.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, all of our stories coming out of the
Bible showing reptile aliens.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So you know, we got a hell of a long
pass of humans intervention with aliens.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Here in the Regarden of Eden with Adam and Eve,
and you'll see the upright, standing, upright.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Conversing with Eve alien.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Into into action, into uh into play between aliens and humans.
One one Hebrew Jewish source on the Bible says, well,
Adam and Eve human. We're all familiar with the Old
Testament account of Adam and Eve in the Garden of
Eden and how.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
They ate the forbidden fruit. But what is not widely
known is that.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
There were other ancient religious documents that describe this event
and tell us of a different.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And startling story.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And the and the and the Jewish writings the Hagatah,
the well spring of Jewish orient oral tradition, says the
first result was that Adam and Eve became naked before
their bodies had been overlaid with a horny's skin, and the.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Developed in a cloud of glory.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And then it goes on to say, no, sooner had
they violated the command given them, then the cloud of glory,
then their horny skin dropped from them, and it talks
about The second quote was from another sources of the
Christian Gnostic text talks about how now Eve believed the
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words of the serpent. She looked at the tree, and
she took some time. She took some of its fruit
and ate, and she gave her husband also, and he
ate two.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Then their mind opened and they.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Ate, and the light of knowledge shown for them.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They knew that they.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Were They care in regard to knowledge, and when they
saw their makers, when they saw their maker, they loathed them.
Since they were beastly forms. They understood very much. So
even in the old Gnostic Christian text talking about the makers,
So the creator of mankind were beastly informed. And if
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that's the case, then we were made the image and
likeness of our creator. And so when we were made,
the Jewish writings say we had horny's skins. So and
so the ancient world always showed kings and rulers and
princes connected to serpents, serpent queens. Some of the scientific
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books are theorizing if the dinosaurs, somehow another were able
to evolve into other kind of creatures over millions of years.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And of course there's Nicholas de Very.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He was a grand master of the dragons legacy, of
the Dragons Court in Europe.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Sir, what was his name?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What was the name of that British writer that died,
that did all the work on the blood lines?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Do you remember who was that? I did, right? I
can't remember his name right now, Sir Lawrence Gardner. Lawrence Gardner.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So, Lawrence Gardiner wrote all quite a few books, large
books about the blood lines of the Holy Grail, about
Jesus blood lines, et cetera. And a very famous author,
and I know him well who we did some luxuries together.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I found out later that Nicholas the Very was a
co author in.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Europe with Sir Lawrence Gardner.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But Lawrence Garden didn't tell Americans that that most of
the knowledge that Lawrence Gardner was bringing out in his
books that we were reading here about the blood lines
of the Royalty of Europe and the royalty of the
blood lines.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Of Jesus and all that kind of thing. He was
getting a lot of his information.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
From Nicholas de vere who was a grand master in
the Dragon's Court in Europe, a secret society, a very
powerful ancient old order where they worshiped the dragon, the
uh reptile alien gods.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And this is a very legitimate society.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And as a and I this is what what was
his name in blad U they called him Bladdy and
paler who was this what was the term they gave
him Traya Dracula.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Dracula was actually a real man.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He was a prince and h he was very bloodthirsty,
and but he belonged to and at the time Dracula
was the the head of the dragons Court. Today Nicholas
de Veri as the head of the Dragon's Court.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And so Nicholas to talks about.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
His book is called the Dragons, like I said, the
secret history of the ancient bloodlines. And on the bottom
it says he's a grand Master of Imperial Royal Dragons
Court and so, as I said, he writes a lot
about the concept of the reptile aliens who had ruled
Europe behind the scenes. Wouldn't surprise me, of course, in
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statues all over the world statues of aliens, reptile aliens.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I saw this one in England.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
When I was in England speaking on tour, I went
to a UFO UH exhibit. This guy had an incredible
museum of all kinds of reptile aliens.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And on the back wall he would have.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The quotes from the reference books from the Bible and
reference books UH describing you know, what you were seeing.
So it wasn't like he was making these up. He
was just showing you where this information came from. And
then design creatures that looked.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Like what was on the document.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And you'll see the connection between the ancient reptile of
a dinosaurs and what the human evolved.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Could possibly look like.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And as I said, there are statutes are all over
Europe and implying that humans are being dominated by reptile aliens. Uh.
What's a quota also pictured as a reptile in Mexico.
This is in U think it's in Finland. I think
it's in Finland, one of the Nordic countries where it
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shows a man being molested by a reptile alien.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Is it Christopher Blonde in Oslo? Yeah, it could be,
that's right, as in Oslo. And now the woman. Yeah, incredible.
The eyes, the eyes.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Of reptile alien reptiles first of all, reptile eyes, the
large eye aliens that we are told and the ancient
people made statues of these alien creatures they said they saw.
Here's one from Kosovo going back to the Neolithic period.
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Let's see, it looks like an alien with the uh,
with the skin, the eyes. Why would these ancient people
make representation of these creatures that they saw and they
look like reptiles because they very well might have been reptiles.
This is from Sumeria, the old Babylonian Acadian.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Sumeria area of the world Middle East.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Quite literally a reptile head, reptiles eyes, and the Lord of.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
The Rings makes the reptile eyes.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's pretty uh, extraordinary stuff when you when you think
about the possibility that maybe there have been for thousands
of years before humans were on the earth, this may
have been in habited.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
By a reptilian race.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
The human brain withinside the between the two lobes of
the human brain, uh, down the middle, there's something called
the reptilian brain. I've talked to doctors about this and
they said, yeah, that's the correct term. That's use as
a there's a part of the human brain between the
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two lobes in the middle called the reptilian brain. And
so they say that when the human is developing in
the womb, that it develops like a reptile and there's
a tail, it has all the a country monks of
a reptile, lizard or whatever, and then it begins to
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begins to fill out and become more human. But when
it's actually in the in the formative stages, it looks
like a reptile.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And of course we have a reptile complex in the brain.
It's called a reptilian complex in the brain.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So I'm you know, you gotta wonder why would science
and medical science call this area in the brain the
reptilian Also, in comic magazines, obviously, all kinds of comics
over the over the years have always shown uh, in
reptiles actually at war, you know, wearing uniforms. So they're
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not just animals, they are actually intelligent creatures, Aztecs and Maya's.
Now the strange crescent heads that I talked about, these
strange pressed heads as were caught by attention many many
years ago. As a matter of fact, I did a
video on this quite a long time ago, but I
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think it's so important redoing it. The same idea of
the crusted heads, the crest on the heads of reptiles
and birds also, and birds are connected to the reptile world.
So when you see these reptiles with these crusted heads,
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I picked up on this, as I said, many years ago,
thinking about this, and wait a minute, crusted heads.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Here's a skull.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You see, the crest is a natural part of the skull,
natural part of the skull.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is not that important because we.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
See it in all the reptiles until you start applying
it to humans. Now, once you once we've established this
is a reptilian, a trait in reptiles here is called
a helmeted lizard, which you'll see the reptile connection between
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the reptile alien and the lizard with the crested head. Then,
as we saw just before from Sumeria, both uh Sumaria,
you see these reptile god of many women crested heads.
The heads of these figurines were styled by some uh
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they look reptilian, lizard headed. I'm just up the opinion
that people back in the little laingship world, Uh, you know,
we're not dreaming.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
This out for Hollywood. They were just making statues of
things they've actually seen. So I would be as I said.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there are and
has been on this irt reptile e intelligent reptilian creatures
on dessert. And that's what our ancient ancestors were trying
to tell us. But this crested head bothered me because
I see it in not only magazines and cartoons, but
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then you begin to see it in everywhere, this crest
on the heads of these aliens, and they're always greened
a reptilian. Then here's a giant statue in uh Persia
with the crest on his head. Prehistoric pictures drawn on
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walls with crested heads. This is the disc that was
found in the Middle East. And on this disc a
lot of interesting symbols on this disc, but one of
them is of a man with a crested head dress.
And of course here are in the Aztecs and the Mayas,
they have their gods with this crested head, and uh,
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here's a deity, a serpent having a plume on its head.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
So the more I got into this whole.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Idea, this plume or crested head on these gods and
there's a serpent with the symbol to Aztecs, Mayas also
had their gods had crested head dresses, which is implying
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in my mind that there's some connection between that that
normal thing which we see on reptiles and it's applying
it to humans and sare here's one of the ancient
gods of the Assyrians with that same idea of the
crested headdress, by crusted head.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
In Africa, the well the gods.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Modern day and then of course the Greeks and the
Romans their helmets will crested hair dresses, headdresses. So when
you think about how the this whole idea of this
crested head has matured through the ages for thousands of years,
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and even the Mohawk Indians, the Mohawks had the same
style crest headdress. So I begin to suspect that there
might be something to this idea of uh A connection
between heroes in Hawaii of gods him M. But what
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is the connection with these UH with this symbol of
the UH powerful gods and all the different nations of
the world, and of course in UH and that's is
in Hawaii. But then of course you have in Tibet.
The Tibetans also have the same idea. So the question
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has to be asked if is it possible that there
has been some part of a play interfacing of humans
with extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And Italian aliens. I think so. I think that's what's happened,
and I think they're here now.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I'm totally sure because I've heard it, as they said,
way too many stories that validate the idea that they
are here. But they don't necessarily show themselves to everybody
if they's superior to us, which obviously they are, cause
they've either been here millions of years before we got here,
or they've come here from somewhere else and we haven't
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gone there, So they're superior to us wherever they have
come from. And when you look in the skin Walk
or Red which I started talking about before, and the
stuff that's actually happening right now today at Skinwalk a
ranch with these kind of reptile aliens showing up on
people's property. They're getting pictures of them, they're having confrontations
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with these reptile aliens. Scientists have been out there, news
people have been out there, So they do exist.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So you've got to explain them somehow.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Either they're interdimensional beings, or they've come here from somewhere else,
or they've always been here. Maybe we're the new guys
on the block and they've always been here. And we've
heard all these stories about underground installations, of underground military
operations with reptile aliens. I've heard all kinds of stories
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of military people about that, So I al would not
be a bit surprised if we are being visited by
other entities from other places in the universe, and we
have been for a long time,
I've totally convinced myself that reptilian aliens live with us.
I've never seen one, Thank god, I've seen enough crap
in my life to know that there's a lot of
strange stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Going on in this world we're not aware.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Of, so it doesn't surprise me. But halfway, I've never
seen one. But I'm totally convinced that reptilians do exist
because I have heard too many people who are very
highly intelligent, professional people that don't know that do not
know each other, give me their tell me about their
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experiences that they've had one on one with reptile aliens,
and all of.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Them are very credible people that if they went into.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
A court and testified against you, you have a hell
of a problem trying to make them a liar, because
there are eyewitnesses to this, and so they've told me
as eyewitness of what has happened to them about they're
run ins with reptile aliens, airline people, bankers, real estate executives, doctors.
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So I just feel there's too much smoke not to
be a fire. And then when you add to that
all of the thousands of years of history of all
the different cultures that talk about reptile aliens. Put that
with it, and I'm of the opinion that I wouldn't
be a bit surprised that there is somebody to it,
because I do know that so much of what's really
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going on on this earth we are not privy to see,
we're not privileged to see a lot of stuffies happen.
I would say a classic example what I'm talking about
as ye have you interview Ever heard of skin Walk
or Ranch? Yeah, y, yeah, skim Walker Ranches in northern Utah.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's an area in northern Utah that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
There's just an extraordinary story of what's happening there, and
it has been happened, has been happening.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
For hundreds of years.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
But now that uh, certain scientific people have gotten involved, Uh,
it's become extraordinary the kind of things they're recording and
bringing out now and bringing to the public. That's been
happening there for hundreds of years. But skim Walker Ranch
is owned by some people who finally sold.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It cause they couldn't take anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And they're seeing on that ranch daytime and night, all
kinds of things happening. It's kind of like a vortex
for the occult world. Let's say reptile aliens, dinosaurs, animals
six or the dogs would have their backs at six
foot high, dogs, aliens, UFOs coming on the ground. And
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all of this is being scientifically photographed and filmed, and
there's an incredible amount of off to wall strange stuff
going on on that ranch continually. So obviously there is
another world that's operating with us simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
And so all the things that the ancient people have
talked about, these aliens and demons and.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Half animal, half humans, all these different things that the
ancient cultures.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Have talked about, and.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
These Samerians drew pictures of these hideous creatures.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Are half human and half animal.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I've always thought, now, maybe those things did it really exist?
And so I'm of the opinion that this stuff does
really exist because I've had way too many experiences of
my own that showed me that there is a world
going on right now simultaneously with us that we're not
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privy to know about. Once in a while, it will
happen to you and you will see something that you've
never experienced before in your life. And the more I
talk to people around town, you'd be surprised. I mean,
ordinary people tell me extraordinary things that they've seen in
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their life, and they don't know how to explain it.
But it just adds one more nailed to the coffin,
one more thing that I've never heard of. That's here.
I was just talking to my good friend Tom some
nightclubs in Los Angeles, and I was down to his
club and we were talking about what I'm doing, and
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he said, one night a couple of the city council
and from Los Angeles City Council came over and they
had some police there, and they were having some drinks
after hours at this club in downtown. And he said,
we're sitting out in the patio and he said, we're
all sitting out to all these politicians and police chiefs
and everybody and enjoying the evening. And he says that
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while we're talking, over our head came some kind of
an aluminous greenish looking ball with a long tail. And
he said, it just swam over us and swam around. Well,
we watched it and then swam on through the air
and swam on and went all out into the city
and was gone. And he said, everybody saw that, and
he thought, what the hell was that?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And nobody knew.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That's just one example of the kind of thing that
I'm talking about. You know, there's all kinds of strange
things going on right down in front of us that
we don't see, and every now and then you'll see something.
So again I think that during to this idea of reptilians.
But the point I want to make on this one is, well,
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show you are there reptilian aliens among us? I would
say yes, obviously in movies, television shows that are always
showing these reptile alien creatures and motion pictures. Again, I
am totally convinced for myself that Hollywood makes movies based
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on real things. Steven Spielberg, in one of his interviews
a couple of years ago, he said that I don't
make movies to entertain. I make movies to comment on
important subjects. I don't make movies to entertain. Well, he's
made all kinds of movies about reptile aliens and Jurassic
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Park and ets and extraterrescuals and all kinds of stuff
like that he's famous for.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And if he's not making those kinds of movies to to.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
He's making them to comment upon an important subject. So
even the likes of Stephen Spielberg feel this is important.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Incidentally, if you can imagine how.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Much money it costs to finance Steven Spielberg to make
a ninety minute movie, if you can just magic, if
you contract with him to be the executive producer to
pay for a movie that he produces, can you imagine
how much money it's gonna cost you?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Because he doesn't go cheap. Well, he made a.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Nineteen hours television series nineteen Hours. Somebody financed him to
the tune of nineteen hours to Steven Spielberg to make
a television series called Taken, in which that was one
of his most important subjects in his life. Is this
concept of aliens taking people, not just with Coyle aliens,
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but the whole concept of other world entities coming and
kidnapping humans.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And so it was called Taken.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Well, the movie Taken was was actually comes from a
book by doctor Carla Turner, a lady doctor who was
probably the best UFO researcher in the world, or as
I'm concerned, she was top of everybody, all the best
USO researchers, But doctor Carla Turner was in my opinion,
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she was a doctor Faubl you know, some kind of
a doctor before, but she got into the alien abduction
subject and what her work was just phenomenal. She did
some serious work on this whole subject of alien abduction
and she began to get into the connections between the
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US government and alien presence and how the US government
is working directly with aliens. Soon after that, she was
found dead and her husband died later. Immediately after that
came out, she started talking publicly about the fact that
the US government is in is dealing directly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
With aliens and allowing these aliens.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
To kidnap children, to kidnap people, knnop humans, and using
them for experiments.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
She was found dead when you was at.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I'm not sure too many years ago, and I still
have our lectures. As a matter of fact, our lectures
are on the web right now. Just still to Google
video and type in doctor Carler k A R LA
Carler Turner and listen to her and tell me if
it doesn't run shows up and down your spine and
listening to this lady, she's very, very knowledgeable. She knew
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what she was talking about, and she's talking about the
fact that when you hear people.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Talking about these aliens, some of them being kind.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And good to us, etc. She said, you better go
back and do your homerk. This whole entire scenario of
alien presence. Are any teens from somewhere else who have
come here into your planet, in to your life, And no,
we don't know what they're objective is and what their
what their objects are, So it's foolish to think that
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any of them are dear and in good, in good
and betefactors. We don't know who they are or where
they've come from. Undoubtedly people in government though, but they're
not talking.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, she found out a lot and that's why she's dead.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But as I said, Hollywood is telling us a lot
of things about the world and they put it into movies.
And so the reptile alien has been around for a
long time.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
In TV shows and even more so.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
M This was in Time Machine, so reptile aliens. And
then of course, as uh as you know, in the
both V the first movie V and the second one,
these were reptile aliens who presented themselves as beautiful people,
highly intelligent, very highly advanced, and the humans were taken
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in by them. Humans wanting to be on the side
of the winter. So, and if you remember I talked
about the dawn of a New Day and one of
my videos, and in the and in V the second one,
they talked about exactly what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
They were going to say.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
They said in V that there was a dawn of
a new day in which the whole world was coming
under a new world order.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
And I've said for years at the symbol or the
new world order was the dawn of a new day.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And I had the video came out and talked about
that months before this came out.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So there is something too, an idea that Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And government, military are totally aware that there is an
alien connection going on right now in point of fact,
uh and and Hollywood is putting it out into movies,
military is doing it undercover, and government.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Is acting like there's nothing nothing to it at all.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But I think that there's something very very frightening going on.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I think we are being invaded.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
No concept of the reptile alias look like humans, well,
that's not new.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, that's even in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The Bible says God being banned in his own image
and likeness. And I've talked of all that. I've talked
to so many rabbis about this subject. First of all,
the word God in the Bible and Genesis one one
when it says in the beginning God created heavens in
the earth. The word God is el Loohem is a
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feminine plural. It's not one God, it's God's more than one.
And then when you get into what kind of gods,
well they were they were supposedly according to Hebrews, they
had scales. They were scaly gods, the Eldlohem who created us.
So then we could talk about that too. I've got
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a lot of stuff on that. But the whole idea
is that these reptile aliens are in motion pictures. They're
in sci fi magazines, of course, they were everywhere, and
almost all of them have a ridge on their skulls,
a raised a plange.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Or ridge on their heads.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I thought that was interesting a long time ago, and
I picked up on that and started doing some research
on that that this or this raised port part on
the head of the skull. Of course, we have the
history of reptile aliens. It'd probably one of the most
interesting books. And there's so many books on the history
of reptile aliens on the Earth. But this one's called
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Flying Sauces and Dragons, The Story of Mankind's Reptilian Paths.
And this is published by book Tree Publishing, our dear
friends here who publish our books for us in San Diego.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's called Flying Serpents and Dragons.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Excellent book on tracing the ancient history, medieval history, and
modern day history of aliens interacting with humans.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Reptile aliens interacting with humans.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I mean, all of our stories coming out of the
Bible showing reptile aliens.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So you know, we got a hell of a long
pass of humans intervention with aliens.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Here in the Regarden of Eden with Adam and Eve,
and you'll see the upright, standing, upright.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Conversing with Eve alien.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Into into action, into uh into play between aliens and humans.
One one Hebrew Jewish source on the Bible says, well,
Adam and Eve human. We're all familiar with the Old
Testament account of Adam and Eve in the Garden of
Eden and how.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
They ate the forbidden fruit. But what is not widely
known is that.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
There were other ancient religious documents that describe this event
and tell us of a different.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
And startling story.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And the and the and the Jewish writings the Hagatah,
the well spring of Jewish orient oral tradition, says the
first result was that Adam and Eve became naked before
their bodies had been overlaid with a horny's skin, and the.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Developed in a cloud of glory.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And then it goes on to say, no, sooner had
they violated the command given them, then the cloud of glory,
then their horny skin dropped from them, and it talks
about The second quote was from another sources of the
Christian Gnostic text talks about how now Eve believed the
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words of the serpent. She looked at the tree, and
she took some time. She took some of its fruit
and ate, and she gave her husband also, and he
ate two.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Then their mind opened and they.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Ate, and the light of knowledge shown for them.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They knew that they.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Were They care in regard to knowledge, and when they
saw their makers, when they saw their maker, they loathed them.
Since they were beastly forms. They understood very much. So
even in the old Gnostic Christian text talking about the makers,
So the creator of mankind were beastly informed. And if
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that's the case, then we were made the image and
likeness of our creator. And so when we were made,
the Jewish writings say we had horny's skins. So and
so the ancient world always showed kings and rulers and
princes connected to serpents, serpent queens. Some of the scientific
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books are theorizing if the dinosaurs, somehow another were able
to evolve into other kind of creatures over millions of years.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And of course there's Nicholas de Very.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He was a grand master of the dragons legacy, of
the Dragons Court in Europe.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Sir, what was his name?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What was the name of that British writer that died,
that did all the work on the blood lines?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Do you remember who was that? I did, right? I
can't remember his name right now, Sir Lawrence Gardner. Lawrence Gardner.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So, Lawrence Gardiner wrote all quite a few books, large
books about the blood lines of the Holy Grail, about
Jesus blood lines, et cetera. And a very famous author,
and I know him well who we did some luxuries together.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I found out later that Nicholas the Very was a
co author in.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Europe with Sir Lawrence Gardner.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But Lawrence Garden didn't tell Americans that that most of
the knowledge that Lawrence Gardner was bringing out in his
books that we were reading here about the blood lines
of the Royalty of Europe and the royalty of the
blood lines.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Of Jesus and all that kind of thing. He was
getting a lot of his information.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
From Nicholas de vere who was a grand master in
the Dragon's Court in Europe, a secret society, a very
powerful ancient old order where they worshiped the dragon, the
uh reptile alien gods.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And this is a very legitimate society.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And as a and I this is what what was
his name in blad U they called him Bladdy and
paler who was this what was the term they gave
him Traya Dracula.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Dracula was actually a real man.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He was a prince and h he was very bloodthirsty,
and but he belonged to and at the time Dracula
was the the head of the dragons Court. Today Nicholas
de Veri as the head of the Dragon's Court.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And so Nicholas to talks about.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
His book is called the Dragons, like I said, the
secret history of the ancient bloodlines. And on the bottom
it says he's a grand Master of Imperial Royal Dragons
Court and so, as I said, he writes a lot
about the concept of the reptile aliens who had ruled
Europe behind the scenes. Wouldn't surprise me, of course, in
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statues all over the world statues of aliens, reptile aliens.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I saw this one in England.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
When I was in England speaking on tour, I went
to a UFO UH exhibit. This guy had an incredible
museum of all kinds of reptile aliens.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And on the back wall he would have.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
The quotes from the reference books from the Bible and
reference books UH describing you know, what you were seeing.
So it wasn't like he was making these up. He
was just showing you where this information came from. And
then design creatures that looked.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Like what was on the document.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And you'll see the connection between the ancient reptile of
a dinosaurs and what the human evolved.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Could possibly look like.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And as I said, there are statutes are all over
Europe and implying that humans are being dominated by reptile aliens. Uh.
What's a quota also pictured as a reptile in Mexico.
This is in U think it's in Finland. I think
it's in Finland, one of the Nordic countries where it
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shows a man being molested by a reptile alien.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Is it Christopher Blonde in Oslo? Yeah, it could be,
that's right, as in Oslo. And now the woman. Yeah, incredible.
The eyes, the eyes.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Of reptile alien reptiles first of all, reptile eyes, the
large eye aliens that we are told and the ancient
people made statues of these alien creatures they said they saw.
Here's one from Kosovo going back to the Neolithic period.
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Let's see, it looks like an alien with the uh,
with the skin, the eyes. Why would these ancient people
make representation of these creatures that they saw and they
look like reptiles because they very well might have been reptiles.
This is from Sumeria, the old Babylonian Acadian.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Sumeria area of the world Middle East.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Quite literally a reptile head, reptiles eyes, and the Lord of.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
The Rings makes the reptile eyes.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's pretty uh, extraordinary stuff when you when you think
about the possibility that maybe there have been for thousands
of years before humans were on the earth, this may
have been in habited.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
By a reptilian race.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
The human brain withinside the between the two lobes of
the human brain, uh, down the middle, there's something called
the reptilian brain. I've talked to doctors about this and
they said, yeah, that's the correct term. That's use as
a there's a part of the human brain between the
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two lobes in the middle called the reptilian brain. And
so they say that when the human is developing in
the womb, that it develops like a reptile and there's
a tail, it has all the a country monks of
a reptile, lizard or whatever, and then it begins to
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begins to fill out and become more human. But when
it's actually in the in the formative stages, it looks
like a reptile.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And of course we have a reptile complex in the brain.
It's called a reptilian complex in the brain.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So I'm you know, you gotta wonder why would science
and medical science call this area in the brain the
reptilian Also, in comic magazines, obviously, all kinds of comics
over the over the years have always shown uh, in
reptiles actually at war, you know, wearing uniforms. So they're
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not just animals, they are actually intelligent creatures, Aztecs and Maya's.
Now the strange crescent heads that I talked about, these
strange pressed heads as were caught by attention many many
years ago. As a matter of fact, I did a
video on this quite a long time ago, but I
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think it's so important redoing it. The same idea of
the crusted heads, the crest on the heads of reptiles
and birds also, and birds are connected to the reptile world.
So when you see these reptiles with these crusted heads,
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I picked up on this, as I said, many years ago,
thinking about this, and wait a minute, crusted heads.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Here's a skull.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You see, the crest is a natural part of the skull,
natural part of the skull.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
This is not that important because we.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
See it in all the reptiles until you start applying
it to humans. Now, once you once we've established this
is a reptilian, a trait in reptiles here is called
a helmeted lizard, which you'll see the reptile connection between
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the reptile alien and the lizard with the crested head. Then,
as we saw just before from Sumeria, both uh Sumaria,
you see these reptile god of many women crested heads.
The heads of these figurines were styled by some uh
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they look reptilian, lizard headed. I'm just up the opinion
that people back in the little laingship world, Uh, you know,
we're not dreaming.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
This out for Hollywood. They were just making statues of
things they've actually seen. So I would be as I said.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there are and
has been on this irt reptile e intelligent reptilian creatures
on dessert. And that's what our ancient ancestors were trying
to tell us. But this crested head bothered me because
I see it in not only magazines and cartoons, but
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then you begin to see it in everywhere, this crest
on the heads of these aliens, and they're always greened
a reptilian. Then here's a giant statue in uh Persia
with the crest on his head. Prehistoric pictures drawn on
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walls with crested heads. This is the disc that was
found in the Middle East. And on this disc a
lot of interesting symbols on this disc, but one of
them is of a man with a crested head dress.
And of course here are in the Aztecs and the Mayas,
they have their gods with this crested head, and uh,
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here's a deity, a serpent having a plume on its head.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
So the more I got into this whole.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Idea, this plume or crested head on these gods and
there's a serpent with the symbol to Aztecs, Mayas also
had their gods had crested head dresses, which is implying
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in my mind that there's some connection between that that
normal thing which we see on reptiles and it's applying
it to humans and sare here's one of the ancient
gods of the Assyrians with that same idea of the
crested headdress, by crusted head.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
In Africa, the well the gods.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Modern day and then of course the Greeks and the
Romans their helmets will crested hair dresses, headdresses. So when
you think about how the this whole idea of this
crested head has matured through the ages for thousands of years,
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and even the Mohawk Indians, the Mohawks had the same
style crest headdress. So I begin to suspect that there
might be something to this idea of uh A connection
between heroes in Hawaii of gods him M. But what
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is the connection with these UH with this symbol of
the UH powerful gods and all the different nations of
the world, and of course in UH and that's is
in Hawaii. But then of course you have in Tibet.
The Tibetans also have the same idea. So the question
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has to be asked if is it possible that there
has been some part of a play interfacing of humans
with extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And Italian aliens. I think so. I think that's what's happened,
and I think they're here now.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I'm totally sure because I've heard it, as they said,
way too many stories that validate the idea that they
are here. But they don't necessarily show themselves to everybody
if they's superior to us, which obviously they are, cause
they've either been here millions of years before we got here,
or they've come here from somewhere else and we haven't
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gone there, So they're superior to us wherever they have
come from. And when you look in the skin Walk
or Red which I started talking about before, and the
stuff that's actually happening right now today at Skinwalk a
ranch with these kind of reptile aliens showing up on
people's property. They're getting pictures of them, they're having confrontations
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with these reptile aliens. Scientists have been out there, news
people have been out there, So they do exist.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So you've got to explain them somehow.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Either they're interdimensional beings, or they've come here from somewhere else,
or they've always been here. Maybe we're the new guys
on the block and they've always been here. And we've
heard all these stories about underground installations, of underground military
operations with reptile aliens. I've heard all kinds of stories
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of military people about that, So I al would not
be a bit surprised if we are being visited by
other entities from other places in the universe, and we
have been for a long time,
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