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But thank you all for being here. And yeah, it was a very
important point that he made that Iwant to remake is that evolution is not
the subject that we should be lookingat creationism. I don't have any problem
with creationism at all. I thinkthere's a lot of legitimacy to creationism.
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But in relation to how we humansgot here on the Earth, I think
the subject is intervention rather than evolution, because I'm totally convinced for myself that
we today are someone else's creation.Someone created us, and whoever created us,
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they're watching us now, and therevery well might be evil entities also
who are watching us and trying tomiss lead the whole creation of mankind.
So it's a very interesting subject.But excuse me, but Christians have talked
about God creating man me. Butmany years ago I talked with one of
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the leading rabbis in America. Thisis back in the sixties, and he
helped me to understand a lot ofthings about what the Book of Genesis was
saying. And it became obvious tome that generally speaking, nothing in the
Book of Genesis that we Christians andthe Christian civilization have understood about Genesis was
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true none of it, because it'san encoded message. There's a lot of
encoded stuff that the Rabbis know,but they're not telling us, telling the
Jews either. But there's a lotof interesting stuff in Genesis. So let's
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get on with it because it'll beself explanatory. So I call this God
did not create Mad. And ofcourse we're going to talk about the Bible,
and incidentally, that's where I'm goingto from now on. I'm more
interested now in the cosmic implications ofwhere we are in life and who we
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are and where we're going. I'mnot interested in politics. I'm not interested
in in the mundane world that welive in. I'm very concerned about the
spiritual implications of where we are ashumans and what is God? And what
is the cosmic implications of where weare in history. There are some very
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serious things coming down on the earth, and we need to wake up and
find out. Has nothing to dowith politics. It has to do with
something going on out there. Andthat's what the knights templates said as above,
so below, whatever was happening tous down here is because something is
happening in the heavens. And I'vealways been interested in theology. But now
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I'm concentrating on nothing but theology now. So anyway, it was gonna be
dealing with the Bible, both theOld and New Testament, and of course
Genesis. In the first chapter ofGenesis is in the beginning, God created
the heavens and the earth. Well, in the beginning, God created the
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heavens and the earth. But youneed to understand that the Bible reference works
goes on to say the beginning thatGod created the heavens and the earth means
the beginning of the heavens and theearth, which are now because nobody knows
when the universe was created, butthe heavens and the earth that we live
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on now. This is a storyin the Bible of the times which we
are living, you know, modernday man, and the heavens and the
earth in which we are living innow. So when you want to talk
about God creating the universe, whennobody knows anything about that, we don't
know how far back that goes.So the first point I wanted to make
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is that when we talk about inthe beginning God, well, the first
things first, God, what areyou talking about when you say God?
Well, in Hebrew, the wordGod is l e l L and Hebrew
is God. But that's not theword that is used in Genesis one one.
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That's not e l. So weneed to define terms. What does
the word God meet in the oldOriginal Old Testament Hebrew language for God and
the in the Genesis one one inthe beginning, God created heavens and the
earth. No, it's not God. E L is God, but the
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actual word in Genus is one onein the original Hebrew is l Lohim.
L Lahim is basically like putting ans on the end of an English word.
Where you have car and then youadd an ass, it becomes cars
more than one. Well, puttinglahim on the end of L means in
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the plural more than one. Sothe correct translation should be in the beginning,
L Lohim created the heavens in theearth. And this is coming from
the O JB Bible, which isthe original Jewish Bible, and which the
Hebrew says in the beginning, LLohim created the heavens in the earth.
Well, of course God in Hebrewand genuis one one is Elhim. Here's
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the important point about all of thisis that God, the Hebrew word Elohim
in genus is one. One isa plural meaning more than one. So
we're seen from different religious literature scripturestudies. Outlines says God Elohim is top
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of the page says the word Elohimis a plural word and Hebrew plural form
of a noun is an i amot. Elohim is a plural form of
eloa. On the bottom, itsays it is interesting to note that even
Olohim is plural, the Hebrew dictionarystill translates that God instead of gods.
And that's because of the influence ofthe Christian world on Judaism during the Middle
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Ages. The Church decided what theBible is going to say and what it
is not going to say, andany Jews that get in the way will
be you know, they will bedone away with quickly. So the Church
kind of change things around to fitthe new dispensation in the new Christian movement,
and so they just call it Godin the beginning God creative. No,
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it's Elohim, God's more than one. From other dictionaries and biblical dictionaries,
we see eloheim the basic form God. God's is the plural form of
l as i said Unger's dictionary theplural form of Elohim. So one of
the bottom line on all of thisis it says, look up the word
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God in the concordance, and underthe heading you will find a list of
all the verses where you can findthe word God in the King James version,
and notice that the verse begins withGenesis one one, God made the
heavens on the earth. But tothe right of the verse and number four
thirty of that word Elohim. Turnedto the Hebrew and Chaldy dictionary in the
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back of the concordance, look upthe number four thirty and you will find
that the word Eloheim as used inGenesis one one one finds Elohim. And
on the bottom it says, youcan now read Elohim in Genesis one one
by reading the text like this.In the beginning, Elohim made the heavens
in the earth. Strong's definition ofElohim, as you will see as a
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plural now, and it goes onto talk about this divine counsel of beings,
even the very sons of God.Bene Elohim was an uncomfortable one for
the ancient Jews. After the Babyloniancaptivity because it directly shows Thepolotheism which was
later shunned even stamped out. Whatchanges in the scriptures to erase any lingering
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traces through these world though they arenot always successfully destroyed. This is clearly
seen in the Morgensterens analysis as hetries to downplay the significance of Elohim being
plural with a rather weak contention Psalmsin the Book of Psalms twenty nine and
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eighty nine were where we read BeneElohim is actually an artificial double plural formation
of a singular ben L. Morgensteinadmits that this attempt to making making the
plural into a singular was doing thepost extyle Jewish theological thought because they felt
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The Jews felt the need to reduceas much as possible the extreme polytheism of
the original benet L. What thisis basically saying is that the beginning of
the Jewish faith understood that there weremany gods and so and so, but
they tried to change it when Christianitywas coming in change it into one God.
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Can't do that. The word isElohim. It means plural. Period.
So here's another quote, and Godcreated man in his own image.
But the Hebrew word Elohim is aplural form, so h reference or condction.
Also see God septuagen Alohim is acommon name for God. It is
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a plural form meaning more than one. Here in the actual Hebrew translation in
an Old Testament Hebrew Bible, whereit says Elohim said we shall make man
uh. And now what is we? You know? And here God says
we are we shall make man inour image and our likeness. Now remember
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Moses and the ten commandments. Moseswith the ten commandments, what was the
first commandment? I'm the Lord,your God, who brought you out of
the land of Egypt or the houseof bondage. And you shall have no
other gods before me. Nowhere inthe Bible does God see there are no
other gods. He just lived inmorning gods before me. That's like I
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would say to my girlfriend. Youknow, there's a lot of men out
there, but I don't want tosee anyone before me. Right, So
there's a lot of mouth there,but you just remember. So this is
why the you and the I thinkit's Exodus twenty, no Genesis twenty,
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where it talks about Nos Exodus twenty, where it has the Ten Commandments,
that says thou shalt have no othergods before me, doesn't say there are
no other gods. And here's theway. It says, in different translations,
same thing, no other gods beforeme. There shall be no other
gods. And even in the OJV, the original Jewish Bible says there shall
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be no Elohim in my presence.So let's see Diuteronomy eleven says, take
heed to yourselves, that you thatyour heart not be deceived. You turn
aside and serve other gods and worshipthem. So the Bible, even the
Old Testament, admits that there areother gods. It just God doesn't.
But Yahweh did not want the Hebrewsto worship any other God but him,
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But there are plenty of gods.First, you need to know that the
people we call the ancient Hebrews werenot actually Hebrews as such, what we
call today the Hebrews were in factPhoenicians and Canaanites. And so the people
we call Hebrews today speak a languagewhich is the Phoenician language. But since
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Hebrews speak it, we call thatHebrew It's like saying that here in America
we speak the American language. No, we don't speak American, we speak
English. We are Americans, butwe speak English. Well. The same
kind of idea as true with thecalling saying that the Hebrews today speak speak
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a language called Hebrew. No theydo not. The language is called the
Phoenician Canaanite language, but the Hebrewsspeak it. That's very important. Remember.
So here's an article in a Jewishpublication and the Judaism, and it
says, it is the faith thatthe people of Judah is the development of
the faith of the Semitic people,well known as Hebrews or Israelites. It
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is recognized that the first religious traditionnoted for its monotheism, But Hebrew tradition
did not begin as monotheism. Sowe have been told for many years that
the Jewish religion and the Jewish peoplewere the first monotheistic people in history at
first. In monotheistic simply means aworshipper of one God. I think I've
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even got that here. The Hebrewpeople, we are told, were the
worshippers of one God, and that'smono theistic. In point of fact,
no, there has never been inthe whole history of the Hebrew people a
monotheistic religion. They were never monotheistic. They're not monotheistic now and never will
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be. The word correctly is heknow. Look in the dictionary and look
up the word he know h eand theistic. He know theistic is what
the Hebrews are today. The Jewishreligion is a he know theistic religion.
He know Theistic simply means the worshipof one God without denying the existence of
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other gods, or the belief inone God without denying the existence of others.
He know Theistic simply means picking onegod from a group. So it's
like having twenty five different gods.And the Hebrews picked Yahweh, and so
they picked him, and so theymade a contract with their God to be
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his people and he would be theirGod. So, in a matter of
speaking, we could say the Hebrewswere worshippers of one God. But it's
not saying that there's only one godin the universe. No, No,
there's many gods. But they madea contract with that particular god. So
they are worshippers of one God.And so that concept of having many gods
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in picking one is called he KnowTheism, so that's the name of that
too. And there's a lot ofarticles written about he Know Theism. I'm
not gonna read a lot of this. I was going to, but we
don't have a whole lot of timesI won it says, from he Know
Theism to Monotheism, he says carefully, careful readers have often noticed a gradual
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development of serving one God among manyhe Know Theism to the eventual claim that
there is only one God monotheism.So today Christians believe that the Jews are
the worshippers of one God. No, go back into your homework, as
never has been and never will be. The ancient Hebrews were worshippers of one
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particular God out of a group.And so it says Yahweh is not Elohim.
Rather he is a part of theLohim. So saying God is not
the Yahweh, the God of theHebrews, is not the almighty God.
He is not all the gods.He is rather one of the gods.
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English of Hosts. They completely ignorethe construct of Yahweh Alohim and translated as
Jahweh God. And this I hearall the time from Jews and Christians.
Well, the Bible says there's onlyone God. No, it does not.
The very word geness is one.One is Elohim, many gods the
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Hebrews of the Hebrew of this verseliterally reads, anyone sacrifices and too,
Elohim will be destroyed unless it isto Yahweh himself. This is a very
clear he know theistic view of Yahweh. While Yahweh is a part of the
Alohim, he's a part of thegods. He is the only one that
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the Israelites are commanded to sacrifice toand not to any other of the gods.
And again you go back to theoriginal Hebrew Bible. It says that
Genesis is one. One says God, Elohim, we shall create man we
So he knows theism is the basefor Judaism. So now you pick up
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and so now you understand it issaid that the Jews worship one God.
Know there are many gods, theyjust pick one from the group. In
the Book of Psalms, the Bookof Psalms eighty two to one, the
scripture says God or Yahweh in thiscase, Yeahwegh Yahweh, the God of
the Hebrews, stands in the congregationof the Mighty. He judgeth among the
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gods. So he's a part ofa whole group of gods, and he
judges his people among all the othergods. So let's see how other verses
Bible verses say this. The CEBBible says God takes his stand in the
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Divine Council. The correct Jewish Biblesays an Elohim God stands in the divine
assembly where they're there with the Elohim. He judges another one the ESV version
of the Bible, God has takenhis place in the Divine Council, in
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the midst of the gods, isplaced in the Divine council. He presides
in the heavenly Council and the assemblyof the gods. So you know,
the Bible is filled with these quotes. Where the where Yahweh, the God
of the Hebrews is one of themany gods who rules. Where in the
group of gods. So that inthe Old Testament. But even that's in
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the Old Testament. But even theApostle Paul and the Christian New Testament says,
in the buck of First Corinthians.He says, for though there be
that that are called gods, whetherin heaven or on earth, as there
are as, there be God's manyand Lord's many. So even the apostle
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Paul is saying, yeah, there'sa lot of gods and lords, you
know, so you need to understandwhich one you're worshiping. They amplify a
Bible says, indeed, there aremany of them talking about the gods.
So to recap, the ancient Hebrewswere not monotheistic, but they were worshiping
one God. They were he know, theistic, making it meaning that they
pick one from a bunch of gods. And as we've said, even the
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Christian apostle Paul said the same thing, that there are many gods and many
lords. Now let's go back toGenesis one twenty six where God is creating
man, because now it's actually thegods are creating man. So here in
Genesis one twenty six, and itsays, and God said, Elohim the
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gods, God said, let usmake man in our image after our likeness.
What's us at our let God?God said, let us make man
in our image after our likeness.Let's see how other Bibles say it.
The Good News Bible says, andGod said, and now we will make
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human beings. They will be likeus and resemble us. New Living Translation
of the Bible says, then Godsaid, let us make human beings in
our image to be like us.The Common English Bible says, then God
said, let us make humanity inour image to resemble us. The Complete
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Jewish Bible says, and then Godsaid, let us make human kime in
our image and in the likeness ofourselves. The contemporary English version of the
Bible says, now we will makehumans, and they will be like us.
The easy to read version says,and God said, now let us
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make humans who will be like us. So in Genesis and even in Genesis
three twenty two again makes the samekind of claiming. It says in the
Lord God, God or Gods said, the whole man has become as one
of us. He's become too smart. We made him too clever and too
smart. He's become like one ofus now. And so in the Holy
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Bible, the New Life version says, let us make man like us.
And here's the point. We nowknow that God is plural, more than
one. So the gods have said, let us make man. No,
that is a mistranslation. It wasmistranslated. Is not like. It is
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not saying let us make man.God did not make man, as you
will see. The word in Hebrewfor man is ish or issi I s
h is are ish in Hebrew asman. But the Bible expressly says that
the Gods made a d M,not ish. So from a Hebrew dictionary
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it says man is ish. Here'sanother one. According to this, the
Hebrew word for woman is isha andcomes from the Hebrew word for man ish.
So if the Bible says God mademan, it will say God made
ish. Interesting to word for man. Woman in the Hebrew is identical man.
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It is pronounced ish. But theBible doesn't say God created ish.
It says in Hebrew, we shallmake a d M, which is translated
into our English human in the imageof us. So God did not make
ish. He made a d LMand Hebrew ad M. And the Christian
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Church added another aid during the electthe twelve thirteenth century. They added an
eight in there. So I'll makeit adam. No, it's not adam
ad M three Hebrew letters, whichmeans something esthetically to the Jews, it's
a hidden code ADM, but itis not ish is a So God didn't
make ish. He made ADM.Talked to the rabbis about what ADM really
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means in Hebrew. So, likeso many other humans, do we even
ADM, which is Adam had offspring, had male offspring, the Bible says.
And look what the Bible says thatdescribes when Adam had an offspring,
he said, and Adam lived onehundred and thirty years and begat a son
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and his own likeness after his image, just like the gods created us and
their own image and likeness. Soit says Adam had a son, and
he had a son that was inhis likeness and own image. Well,
of course, if you have ason, he's going to look human.
He's going to be like a human, not gonna look like some entity from
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an outer space. He's gonna lookhuman. So he's going to be made
in your image and likeness. Andso Adam had his son. He looked
at his own image and likeness,which is the same thing the Bible says
about the gods who created us.They made us to look like themselves and
their image and likeness. So thereare many examples in the Bible that show
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that the gods looked like us,and or actually we look like them.
They were here before we are.So I'm going somewhere with this when I'm
laying the foundation for it. Aclassic example that's found in the story of
Abraham meeting three visitors that came tovisit him. In the Book of Genesis
eighteen chapter there's a story about Abrahamhaving three visitors, three men that came
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to visit him, and it saysthat Abraham was filled with fear and bowed
down, and it says now hereit is in eighteen one and the Lord.
And you'll notice that the word Lordis capitalized. When the Lord is
capitalized, it means it is theCreator, Yahweh, one of the Alohim.
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But Yahweh, the Lord who created, said appeared to him, and
it says, and he lifted thisis Abraham. And Abraham lifted up his
eyes and looked. There were threemen stood by him. And when he
saw them, he ran to meetthem from the tent and bowed himself to
the ground. These three men walkedup, but one of them was the
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Lord, the Creator, Yahweh,and so it goes on to say that
the Lord appeared unto Abraham and threemen. So it keeps talking about the
three men, and then Abraham askedthe three men to please stay for dinner,
which they agreed to do. Andso it said that Sarah went out
and fixed dinner for them, andthey sat under the tree and had dinner.
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And then after dinner the three men, two of them got up,
he says, after the eating,two of the three men and got up
to be on their way, whilethe third man stayed a bit longer to
talk with Abraham. And so themen rose up. These are the two
men that rose up out to dinner, and they were looking towards Sodom,
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because they were going to Sodom.So, okay, now we see the
two men got up after eating dinner, and Abraham walked with them a bit
on their way to the city ofSodom. And it says in chapter nineteen,
and there came two angels to Sodomthat evening, and Lot set in
the gates of Sodom, and Lot, seeing them, rose up, and
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to meet them, he bowed himselfjust like Abraham. Lot bowed himself down
with his face to the ground,and he said, behold my lord's lower
case, and turn in. Iprayed to your servant's house. So the
point I'm making here is that inthe book of Genesis eighteen, three men
came walking up into the camp,and they and Abraham and Sarah made dinner
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for them, and they sat underthe tree had dinner with Abraham and his
wife. Then two of the mengot up and they were going on to
their business, and they were goingon to Sodom. And but then the
next chapter it says those two menare now called two angels that went into
Sodom. Well, that's what thewords back in Jedesys eight team was the
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Elohim. They were angels, theywere gods. And there were three of
them that popped up in front ofAbraham, and one of them stayed.
And so the men the men saidthis, and the men said that.
Well, we go on and readin Genesis is nineteen about what the men
did. But later on down hereand verse fifteen that talks about the angels
again. So the Bible and thenjenas Is eighteen and nineteen is into using
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into playing angels with men. Sowell, that's what the Bible says,
God bade us in his image oflikeness. Obviously, the God must look
like us, or we looked likehim. So the point is, according
to the Bible, the word Godis Alohim, which means the gods,
and it's plural meaning more than one. And they made us in their image
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and likeness, so we look likethem. So that's why your male offspring
looks human like you do. Okay, And here's him bowing down to the
three men. Then we find out, actually upon deeper research, that three
men were actually three angels. Sothis is why in the Christian New Testament,
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the Apostle Paul says. Then thisis what the Apostle Paul and Christianity
says about this subject. He says, but let brotherly love continue, be
not forgetful to it, be notforgetful to entertain strangers for some, For
thereby some have entertained angels unaware,saying that when you meet someone, being
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hospitable, because you might be talkingto an angel because they look like you
or you look like them. Andso here's another Bible Gntiq says, remember
to welcome strangers into your home.There was some who did that and welcomed
angels without knowing it. Another translationNLT translation said, don't forget to show
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hospitality to strangers, for some whohave done this have entertained angels without realizing
it. So the point I'm makingis that angels and gods look like us.
We are made in their image andlikeness, and that is the bottom
line on what I'm trying to getacross to you. So now it's here
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that I want to clarify the ideathat God is the gods, and they
did not make man ish. Theymade a d M, not ish again,
and the old ancient Hebrew it sayswe we shall make ish no a
d M, which is loosely transmittedhugh Man and the image of us.
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So the gods made a d M, and ADM becomes add them Adam,
and the Adam looks like the Godthat created him. So let's recap very
quickly. God is Hebrew plural,which is actually he knows theism the worship
of many gods, the plural meaningmore than one. There it is Alohim,
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we shall make man, And itgoes on and back. Here it
says we shall make a d M, not ish other gods. We're told
not to worship other gods and worshipthem. Indeed, there are many of
them. There are many gods.God say, let us make man in
our image. So therefore the conclusionis God is the gods, and the
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gods made a d m and notish. Now the three men with Abraham
turned out to be angels. Nowlet's move on to the next point.
Now, for that we go toGenesis ninety one, after the flood of
no Day. In the Bible,Genesis nine one says, this is after
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the flood of Noah's day, wheneveryone's supposedly you have been killed in the
flood. And then God said toNoah and his sons, He said to
them, be fruitful, multiply andreplenish the earth. I remember asking the
rabbis many many years ago, isthis a correct translation from the old Hebrew?
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Be fruitful, multiply and replenish theearth. The question I have for
the rabbi was, is this wordreplenish correctly translated? And he said,
yes, it is. Well.Ree means do it again, So to
replenish means to do it again.Well, obviously, if the earth have
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many people, and God destroyed allthe people in a flood, and if
you want people on the earth.You're going to have to replenish the earth.
Makes sense. So in Genesis nineone, replenish the earth, he's
telling Noah and his sons. Okay, red as I said, means do
it again. And here is inthe Old Jewish Bible, says Elohim says,
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be fruitful, multiply, and replenishthe earth is a Hebrew word meaning
do it again. But what aboutgenuis one one? And here's the point.
Genesis is one one when God ismaking a d M and his wife.
When God is making the first pair. Here it is in Genesis one
where God is creating a d Mor Adam and his wife Eve, it
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says, And so God created man. The God's created man in his own
image, and the image of Godcreated he them male and female. And
God blessed Adam, Adam and hiswife. God blessed them, and God
said into them, be fruitful,multiply, and replenish the earth. So
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here God is saying to Adam andEve, the first couple supposedly to replenish
the earth, do it again.So what are you talking about. I
thought that God created Adiman, hewas the first couple. No, No,
God said replenish hearth do it again. So why would the gods tell
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Adm and his wife to multiply andreplenish the earth. It means because he
wanted them to do it again.And the reason why is because if you
go to Genesis one one, theanswer to why Adam and he was to
replenish the earth. Genesis one twois a very important scripture. In the
beginning, the gods created the heavensand the earth, and the earth was
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without form and void. That isan incorrect English translation of the Hebrew words
tohuvavahu as an incorrect translation. Uh, the earth was without form and void.
Think about it. God creates theearth and it has no form and
is void. I mean, whatdoes that all mean? It's without form
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and void. Well, it's amistranslation. That's not what it says.
So when we read the earth waswithout form and void, it's a mistranslation
of the original Hebrew words tohu vavoho. And the earth was in the Old
Jewish Bible and the earth was tohuvavohutohuvaboho is actually translated correctly. And the
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earth became a waste in a desolation, not form without form, and void.
No, the earth tohuvaboho means becamea waste in a desolation. So
what is the Bible actually saying inthe original Hebrew is that the earth became
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a waste in the beginning, Godcreated heavens of the earth. But Hebrew
vib was the earth was became awaste in a desolation. This is in
the Hebrew. The order of wordsin a sentence is all also important.
When the verb is in the originaltext and follows the subject in the sentence,
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it indicates a change of tents andshould be translated as became or had
become. It is a change ofsomething existing from what it had been,
since the earth had already been createdin Genus has one one. The verb
higher being and the original detext followsthe subject. Thus indicates a change that
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occurred with the earth at its originalcreation, since a change in the Earth
had already taken place in the past. The verb high translate translated incorrectly translated
was should have been translated correctly asbecame a waste and a desolation. This
is very important. Here's a goodbook Bible translation that at least set it
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right. And the earth became awaste. And here's a translation from the
Bible says the earth was without formand void. No, was as became
and without form. No, theword is tohuvabo, who a waste.
So what I'm saying to you isthat what the Bible is saying in Genesis
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one two is that the earth becamea terrible waste and a terrible place.
It wasn't created without form and void. The word is tohuvavo who Okay,
so not created toed but became theearth became a waste in the desolation.
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Now that's important because the Hebrew wordstohuvavo who are only found twice in the
Bible Genesis one two, Tohuvabo,who means became a waste in the desolation.
Well, there's a second place,Tohuvavo, who is used and is
in the Book of Jeremiah. Andin Jeremiah the fourth chapter, the Bible
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says Jeremiah said, I was givena vision by God. The prophet.
Jeremiah said, I was given avision by God. And in division he
said, I beheld the earth,and lo, it was without form and
void. No, Jeremiah had avision from God, and in division he
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saw the earth became a waste ina desolation. And he then goes on
to say, in twenty five,and I beheld, and there was no
man. There was no Issh,and for sure there was no Adddam.
So he was seeing the earth,and it became a waste in the desolation,
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and there was no man. Butthen he goes on to say in
twenty six, and I beheld,and a fruitful place was a wilderness,
and all the cities thereof were brokendown, and the whole land became desolate.
What do you mean, all thecities There was no man. There
was no Addam, no ish,but there were big cities, and then
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all of a sudden those cities becamea way the desolation. Here's another quote
said the earth was without former void, and then it says without former void.
No. Jeremiah clearly indicates the Earthhad undergone a cataclysmic change as a
result of divine judgment. The faceof the earth bears witness everywhere the marks
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of such a catastrophic thing happening onthe earth. So here's another quote bears
CHIPA one two, which is actuallyGenus is one two, and the earth
was tohu Vabohu can be taken asa hint that the Bible at Taurus stands.
It starts its account after the destructionof the world a prehistoric man.
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And that is the point I'm tryingto make here today, is that when
the Bible talks about the creation ofa d m Adam, it's not talking
about ish and it's not talking aboutman. It's talking about a particular kind
of man that has made in theimage and the likeness of the Alohim.
Because whatever man was that was alreadyhere for millions of years, something happened
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where outside entities came here. Theywere called the Alohem the gods. Well,
what were the gods? I don'tknow. But if you ask a
child where is God? And thechildren will say, God's in heaven.
Where do you believe in angels?Yes, well, where do angels come
from? They come from Heaven.Well, I don't know if you know
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this or not, but anytime agod or an angel comes from Heaven,
that's extraterrestrial. That's not from here. They're not from Cleveland, They're from
Heaven. Okay, So all theancient scriptures of the world say that the
gods, whoever they are. Theycame down here and they saw the indigenous
creatures, the ish to man,the creatures we call them hominids in science.
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They were hominid creatures. They weren'tquite man, but they kind of
walked up right, look something likeus. And then somebody intervened in our
natural evolution of hammadid creatures and createda new kind of man, not ish,
Adam, that's you. Somebody createdyou. And they didn't just create
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you out of nothing. Know,someone intervened in our natural evolution of millions
of years and came here and createda new kind of man. So chance
again Genesis one twenty eight. AndGod created man in his own image,
and he told Adam and Eve toreplenish the earth. Of course, why
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would the gods tell Adam and hiswhite to multiply and replenish the earth,
because re means do it again?What did I do? Did I push
a wrong button here? Oh?Wait a minute, push a what you
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do it for me? Because Idon't want to make it even worse?
Oh I'm sorry? A click?And then the house okay, good,
thank you? Sure that that's good. You don't want to just take it
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from there? So again we seethat the Genesis one two says that the
earth was Tohuvabohu, And this writerin the Hebrew says that's taken as a
hint that the Torah or the Bible, starts its biblical account of man after
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the destruction of prehistoric man. So, now what we're talking about is Hamidid
creatures, these ancient creatures which wehave found skeletal remains all over the earth,
of creatures which walked upright. Wecall them Hamidid creatures or cave man.
I don't care what you call them. We got all kinds of names
for the ancient peoples of the world. They were called hominids. And from
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the hominid creatures we now have adam a different kind of creature. So
from this hamidid creature to modern dayhumans. So we start off with the
hominids and we end up today withmodern day humans. Now, so the
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point I'm making is that we werehominids. We were ancient, ancient creatures
until somebody intervened in our natural evolutionand created us. And the scripture says
in the Bible and in all otherancient scriptures say the same thing, that
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the gods created us in their imageand their likeness, and so we look
like they who have created us,which means that today they're very well might
be people who we consider to bebeautiful and important people, politicians and important
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people who are leading the world,which are in point of fact, not
human at all. They very wellmight be the Earth and its people on
the Earth today very well might beled by higher intelligences who look like us,
and we look up to them becausethey're big shot politicians and big shot
world leaders. Never realizing you arelooking at the Onunaki, the ones that
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the ancient call the ones who createdthe humans. They're not human, they
just look human. And there havebeen a lot of sci fi movies made
about that alien nation, and BillBerg with his television series Taken. So
all I'm saying to you is thatyou need to go back and think about
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the idea that the evolution is notthe subject. Intervention is the subject.
And I am totally convinced that weare being led in the world today,
all over the Earth by entities thatlook like us, that look like human,
but they are the ones who representthose who created us. We look
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like them, and they are misleadingus, playing us for fools and getting
us to fight their wars, andthey're selling our bodies on the New York
Stock Exchange, and they've set upa whole system of commerce in the world.
And religions and politics and all theother human trash that we have to
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deal with every day in life.Why because they created us and they are
our gods. So I would suggestthat you might want to take another look
at religion, jud the Christianity,and Islam, and understand these are nothing
more than the creation of the gods. And there's no truth in them anywhere,
nothing of any value in those threereligions, and a lesson until you
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can get out from under the manipulationand the exploitation of the human psyche by
those who look like us. Weare in serious trouble in this world because
the people have given their sovereignty,they've given their lives, they've given the
hopes of the future to possibly extraterrestrialswho couldn't care less about you. They
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created you, and that they lookupon us as chattel property. They own
you like trash and like animals.So I would suggest that what we need
to see now in the world isa revolution of minds. We need a
whole spiritual renaissance where the people ofthe world rise up and say no longer
do we buy into your religions,your politics, your commercial system, you're
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banking none of it. It's allextraterrestrial influence. And we don't believe in
your gods anymore. That doesn't meanthat there isn't a divine presence in the
universe. That there is no doubtin my mind. But we are coming
to a place now. I meanthe Mayan Calendar is talking about it,
but I don't know that that's gonnabe of any important importance. But I
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do know that the world is enteringinto a very dark period now where the
human race is gonna wake up andfind out we've been had by those entities
who have come here from somewhere elseand made us to look like them,
and they are misleading the whole humanrace using Judaism, Christianity in Islam.
And I want to thank you.Oh yeah, question answer, yeah,
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okay, I guess we could takesome question to answer. That doesn't mean
I have the answers, huh yeah. So if you uh, if you
got any questions which I can't answer, then you will you can come to
the mic if you have any Butagain I would say I'm I'm not the
world's foremost authority on anything, sodon't expect any brilliant answers from me.
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I have always believed that, I'vesaid this many times. Always trust the
person looking for the truth, don'tever trust the one who's found it.
All right, Jordan, you've shownthat in the Old test that many times
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to use the word elohem. Isthere any ever time to use the word
eli representing a single god? Ohyeah, yeah, quite a few times,
but they were usually that was appliedto angels or Jewish high priests.
They were taught they were called theelis, and so sometimes when that word
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was used, it was talking aboutangels. A particular angel or one of
the Jewish high priests also had thesame title. And so that's a whole
subject. I mean, you don'teven get into the whole subject of the
Hebrew language and the word God asopposed to gods, as opposed to the
aloheim. And there's a very importantsubject which I didn't even touch on here.
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Well, I touched a little biton it, but the subject is
the sons of God because in theHebrew Bible, as also in other different
old religious texts. There is anidea in the Bible. In the Old
Testament Bible, there are many differentkinds of entities. There are spirits,
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which we call ghosts or spirits.Then there's disembodied spirits. Disembodied spirits means
that there were spirits which used tohave a body, and then their body
died and so their spirit went backinto the spirit world, which is the
spirits of humans who have died,but they are disembodied spirits because they used
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to have a body. Well,that's not the same as ghosts or spirit
entities in the Bible, because thespirit entities in the Bible were created spirits
and they never had a body,as opposed to people. When they died,
their spirit goes out. So nowthere's two kinds of spirits, the
ones who were always a spirit andthen the ones that used to have a
body. And so now we gottwo kinds of spirits. Then you have
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something called the watchers in the OldTestament. The watchers is a different term
for a different kind of spirit entity. Then you have another term, which
is in the most important one issons of God. Sons of God are
not angels. Sons of God arethe offspring of the mating between the extraterrestrials
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who came here and the women whowere already here, and they had offspring,
and the Bible doesn't call them children. It says that the aliens,
the Aloheims, the gods who camehere, and after they created adm Adam,
they begin to see that what theyhad created was beautiful. The women
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were gorgeous, so they started thinkingtoo much about what they have created and
started taking on the women and procreating with them. And it doesn't say
what they women gave birth to.The Bible says and the women gave birth
to children, No, it doesn'tsay that. In the Hebrews, it
just says that the women gave birthperiod, and it doesn't say what they
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gave birth to. Well, ifthese were extraterrestrials from another world who looked
like us, and they cross breedwith the human creatures that they had created,
and those creatures were giving birth tosomething that was extraterrestrial and human,
and Inhamedid it was. Now that'swhy today I think that we are half
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human, half man, and halfspirit, because there's half and the apostle
Paul says that there's a war goingon in the flesh of mankind between the
spirit and the flesh. Why becausethe flesh represents the ish, the creatures
that were already here, as opposedto when the angels came here or the
spirits or whoever they are, camehere and recreated us. Now there's half
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of us is from them, theanarchy, and the other half is from
the ish, the creatures that werealready here. Well, that's true because
all humans. Half of us arejust animals, but the other half creates
beautiful music and lasers and goes tothe moon and has beautiful art and could
do wonderful and great things and bevery spiritual. At the same time,
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you get one can go out andkill somebody, because there's there's the human
part of us. So there's twoThere's there's two things going on inside of
us, the war between the thewhat the extraterrestrials put into us and the
normal animalistic thing that we were beforethey got here. So that's what I'm
saying, the human race is today. We are an intervention in our natural
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evolution. Strange stuff. Thank you. You talk about being aware of religion
or kind of being wary of religion. But this information is in the Bible.
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How do you how do you?It's because the Bible is not the
work of a holy priesthood writing holyscriptures. The Bible is the work of
people who have studied all the ancientcults of the world, all the ancient
religions of the world, the ancienthidden mysteries of the world. And when
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you begin to look at the actualhistory of the Old Testament and the history
of the ancient Hebrews, you willfind there was no ancient history of the
Hebrews. That the Old Testament mostlikely was put together by some very very
highly intelligent priests and writers, probablydoing i would say, seventh, eighth,
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ninth and tenth century AD. Ido not believe that Judaism as a
BC religion. I don't think therewas an ancient Jerusalem and ancient Judaism.
I believe that the Bible as weknow it, the Old Testament, Bible,
the Jewish Old Testament, probably hassomething to do with the Hanseiotic League,
a German league of highly intelligent priests, clergyman, commercial ventures, bankers.
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It's called the Hanseiotic League. Andout of the Hanseiotic League, and
Europe began a whole new religious conceptcalled Judaism, and we began to see
a whole new religion being developed.But that's in the AD. As far
as I'm concerned, looking at allthe reference works of the world, there
was no BC Judaas, there wasno ancient Jerusalem, there was no ancient
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Hebrew people, none of it everexisted. But I'm thinking that whoever these
wise men were that put together thisBible and wrote it in such a way
as the Dcode secret things into it, anyone who studied the Bible knows that
almost ninety nine percent of everything isin the Old Testament was already in existence
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in ancient cultures, the Old Sumerians, the Babylonians, the Venetian Canaanites,
the Assyrians, especially the Medo Persians. But all of these ancient stories that
were and I believe these ancient peoplewith their ancient stories, were not writing
for Hollywood. They're just telling youwhat they saw. They're just telling you.
The Samerians were just telling what theywere experiencing. They were not writing
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for television. And so the peoplewho wrote the Old Testament took all of
those ancient stories and put them togetherand started getting a consensus of what the
ancient people was saying and what wasreally going on, and then they translated
it into a new book for uscalled the Bible. So I have the
highest of respect for the Bible andwhat's in it, because I understand it
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didn't come from Yahweh and some wonderfulGod. Know. It's a collection of
all the ancient wisdom of the worldthat these people, you know, five
to seven hundred years ago, werevery intelligent people, and they were getting
a consensus of all the ancient writingsof the world from the Egyptians, the
ancient Hindus and put together a wholenew story based on all of that ancient
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stuff. So that's why I havethe highest of respect for the Bible,
because that's an incredible collection of ancientwisdom telling you something. But like the
Rabbis have told me, it's allencoded. It's encoded, it's not on
the surface. You need to knowwhat the rabbis were really saying and what
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these people were really saying, notwhat you thought they were saying. So
religion is basically using that as athe the good information, and then distorting
it in order to control that's rightto keep control. But there are rabbis
who and I've sat with some veryreally interesting rabbis who who tell me?
Because I confronted them with a lotof this. They said, well,
you're right, And I said,no, I want to know. Was
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Judaism actually a b C religion?They said, well, I mean,
it's just a story. It's justa story. I said, I know,
it's just a story, but I'masking you. Was there any legitimate
history in it? No, therewasn't. And now there is a There
are the top archaeologists and a toppalaeontologists in Egypt. One is named Finkelstein,
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and I the other one I can'tremember his name. They have come
out with a book about two yearsago. They were the top professors in
Israel, and they wrote a booktogether called Unearthing the Bible, in which
they said, and they are thebest of the best in Israel. And
they said, none of the storiesin the Old Testament or history, none
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of them. There was no Moses, and there was no crossing the Red
Sea, and there was no Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. All of these
stories were stories of the ancient worldthat were remolded into a new story.
For a new time and a newpeople. But all of it's based on
the ancient stuff. So that meansthat what you're reading is not necessarily nonsense
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and crap. No, it's basedon ancient, real knowledge that the ancient
people's had. But it's a newstory for a new time. That's why
the Bible's called the greatest story evertold. It's a story know and so
if you understand it's a story andit's based on older, more ancient writings.
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I have the highest admiration for theBible because it's a great collection.
And at this point I'd like toalso say I have an all encompassing fear
and and appreciation for God. Ihave no problem with the concept of a
divine presence in the universe that isovershadowing all life. Uh, there is
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the differences of God. Are youtalking about aliens who came here who are
very clever and created you, orare you talking about a higher power in
the universe. It's even over them. Well, from all I've gathered from
what people have said in books andlectures, I've heard that they have been
abducted by these aliens who look likeus, who look like Nordic's Well,
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you're talking about people who look human, but they were extraterrestrial. Well,
Bible says the same thing. ButI have the highest of admiration for the
idea, the concept of a higherpower in the universe that men have called
God. I don't have any problemwith that, that idea at all.
It's these silly religions which are corporationsand businesses and making billions of dollars off
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of poor people's ignorance. That's whatI have a problem with God. I
don't have any problem with God.I don't mess with that. I don't
even think I'd be alive today ifit wasn't for God. So Hi,
which Ananaki? Do you think behindthe Illuminati? Is it like Enlil or
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Marduk and what's happened to Enki andNima Uh? I'm not really sure about
any of that. I was avery close friends with Zachariah Sitchen, and
I was in business with him,and we talked about this stuff quite a
bit. I said Zacharia's session tofive countries, and I helped get his
books published, and he and Iwere very close friends for a long time.
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We were in business together, andI asked. I've asked him a
lot of these questions. He knewthe answers to them, but he would
never give me any straight answer.So I would say that I'm not sure
about this subject all. The onlything I am sure about is that we're
not talking about one glorious god whocreated Adam and Eve. We're talking about
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extraterrestrials who look like us. Andof that there is no doubt in my
mind about because the people who arerunning this planet have already proven to They've
proven over and over again they don'tcare about the human race. They don't
care about human life. Why becausethey're not human. They're not like us,
They're not human. They don't carethey have to kill millions of children
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in another country. They just don'tcare because they're you know, they created
us. So you know, weare like chattel. I mean a law,
humans are called chattel property, meaningwe're cattle. And so naturally of
farmer or rancher will take care ofhis cattle. Why because he can sell
them and you can have hamburgers,and so you have to take care of
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your cattle, and so you givethem a place to live and water to
drink. And food and take careof them and give them entertainment. That
doesn't mean you love them, No, it means you're gonna feed off of
them, you're gonna sell them atthe stock market, You're gonna use them
for your political purposes. So Idon't think the people who are leading the
country and leading the world today arehuman. I think the demonic that they're
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pray. They're evil, and probablythe most powerful, evil, demonic and
depraved of all is in the US. I think we're being led by the
most evil people in the world.And again, I don't think they're a
human WHI I was reading a book. I was reading a book on symbols,
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and it said that religions that usethe symbol of the cross and the
crown are religions that are run bythe illuminati. Is there any kind of
relevance at all to that? Yeah? Really, Oh I've been talking about
that for years. Oh really,What I would tell you about that.
She's talking about the religious symbol that'sused in Christianity of a cross inside of
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a crown, the cross in thecrown. Charles Tess Russell used the cross
in the crown back in eighteen seventyone, when he started the IBSA,
which became known as Jehovah's Witnesses.Jehovah's Witnesses was started by an organization back
in eighteen seventy one that used thecross in the crown. All the Protestant
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Christianity, all the Protestant Christianity usesthe cross in the crown, plus some
of the facets of the Catholic Church. You still used across in the crown,
but the cross in the crown.Christians think the cross represents the cross
of Christ in the crown that Jesuswill wear as king. Now, the
cross in the crown has to dowith Masonic order. It has to do
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with a very ancient orders coming outof Rome and the days of the Caesars,
when the cross in the crown wasused as an occult symbol for secret
societies that were beginning to come upwith this new idea of Christianity. And
so it's a very interesting subject onthe cult symbols and how they're being used
today. They don't mean what youthink they do, thank you. Yeah.
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You know. Incidentally, the veryword church. You know, how
many people go to church every dayand have no idea where the word comes
from and what it means Church comesfrom a from a Scottish word kirk,
like Captain Kirk of the good shipenterprise. You know, that's what religion
is, it's an enterprise. Butchurch is an English word that's based on
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a Scottish word kirk k e rk r k i r k and kirk
is directly trans directly connected to anancient goddess in the Middle East called Circe
or Circe. She was called MotherCirce or later on in Scotland, mother
Kirk, or later on in EnglandMother Church. Church is Circe in Scotland,
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Circe is uh uh Kirk in Scottishbecomes Circe in the ancient Middle East,
she was a goddess, and shewas a goddess in the Greek mythology
who was able to hypnotize people andbring them into her home, shut the
door and take their minds away fromthem, and eat them and live off
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of them. And so this iswhat Mother Curse Circe has done other church.
The church takes people in with magic, brings them in locks the door
behind, takes their their minds sothey can't read, they can't think,
and all they know how to dois bowed out to the man with the
fishhead, and they and but it'strue, that's what the Pope wears.
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It's called the Pope's Mina's it's thehead of a fish, which goes back
to the worship of daygone, dayGone, the fish God of Rome.
So all of this is all ancientstuff coming from somewhere out there, and
these people are real serious evil.Well, you're absolutely right, Thank you
so much. I wanted to askyou what you knew about the report from
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Iron Mountain that JFK requisitioned in nineteensixty one with the experts and then that
came out. Yeah, I know, I remember talking about secret societies and
relating that to biblical phrases and thenbringing in the New World Order and just
how they were going to dismantle America, collapse our Constitution and the Bill of
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Rights and take away Well they're notgoing to do that. It's already done.
It's done, right. But Imean, I'm just wondering what you've
it's I know it is, itis. Yeah, I've talked to too
many I've been all around the worldand I've talked to too many people.
Very important people that you have noidea in the world that I know that
very top of this government that werepersonal friends of mine, and I've sat
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and talked with him in private.Advisers to the President of the United States,
top of the top on the line, people that I've been able to
meet and became friends with, andthey allowed me to talk with him in
private. And I so it's myit's just my subjective opinion, but it's
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based on the conversation with many,many people over the years that there is
no hope to save America or thehuman race. I was giving a lot.
I was on a panel in LosAngeles about a year ago and George
Norriy was hosting it. And whilewe're up there, I saw a man
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come in with a three piece suit. He looked government the moment he walked
in, and I watched him inthe back of the room, and just
about the time we were going toend the question and the answer period,
he walked over to the other cornerof the room. I watched him walk
over to the side so that whenwe come down off the platform, we're
facing him. And as I camedown off the platform, he looked at
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me and said you yet, comein, You come in. So I
walked over to him and he openedhis wallet. There's a long, oblong
wallet, and handed it to me. He didn't say a word, he
just hand me the wallet and Iopened it up and it was two badges
from government, very impressive organizations ingovernment. And I'm not going to tell
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you what, but it's higher thanCIA and two badges and two id's and
this heavy wallet. And he handedit to me and I looked at it
for a few moments. I studiedit for a few moments and then I
looked at him. I said,very impressive. He says, reel And
he said, I've been sent here. The government sends me to all kinds
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of conferences just to listen to seewhat people know and what they don't know,
what they're talking about. We justwanted to see what's going on and
taking a sampling of the channel.And he said, well, I was
told particularly to listen to you,and that's why I'm here. He said,
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I would you know. He toldme some interesting stuff. He said,
one thing in particular I thought wasvery significant. He said, my
higher ups have told me that theylike what you do, but they don't
have any problem what you do.They see you as a good guy trying
to help you, fellow man,so they don't I don't think you're going
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to have any problem with government.They know who you are, they know
what you're trying to do. They'rejust more interested to see who's going to
listen to you. It doesn't interestto see who's who's smart enough to listen
to you interesting. So with allyou know and all you've been told,
then the educational value of what you'redoing is being conceited as being my feeling.
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It's just my subjective opinion, butI think that cosmically speaking, I
don't think there is any hope forthe human race. Why I didn't say
not individuals, I'm not talking aboutindividuals. I think individuals are being called
out from the mass, but Idon't think the masses have a chance in
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hell to get away from what's coming. And the reason why is because trying
to change the human race and educatepeople today and the kind of where we
live in is like trying to emptythe Pacific with a cup, because you
know, it's a huge tsunami ofignorance and stupidity, self centered, egotistical,
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know at all pompous, arrogant stupidityof the human race that wants to
hear nothing of truth. All theyare interested in is important things that have
to do with life, like football, basketball and the movie stars getting married
and all that sense. Oh aslong as as long as the human race
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loves to be deceived by their masters, not realizing their bodies are actually security
on the New York Stock Exchange forthe banking industry, and the banks are
not the powers of this world.It's the insurance companies behind the banks.
And the reason why the insurance companiesare behind the banks is because of the
fourteenth Amendment. And once you understandthe fourteenth Amendment is connection to insurance companies.
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The insurance companies connection to the banks, And you understand that the government
we got now is not the samegovernment we started with in the seventeen seventy
six. It's a privately owned company. It's a private corporation. Once you
understand how this stuff works in relationto religion, the Catholic Church, the
Jewish religion, Islam, and howit's all financially behind the scenes, connected
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and the whole world is being playedfor a fool. So I'm saying it's
about time. I believe it's anidea whose time has come for the whole
human race to wake up and findout we've been had and the only real
hope is individuals being called out tostand on your own and start doing your
own. I would suggest everyone shouldtalk directly to the Spirit, directly to
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God. Don't go through any religionor any man made system. All you
have to do is talk to theSpirit, and the Spirit hears you,
and then ask the Spirit. Afteryou've talked to the spirit and tell it
what you want, and tell itwhat you need, and you're talking to
the spirit, then ask the Spiritto show me that you've heard me,
give me a sign that you're hearingme, and watch what happens. Yeah,
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more question. I was thinking aboutthat line I guess from the Bible
that says what profit a man ifhe gained the entire world but lose his
soul or the kingdom of heaven.I started out wanting to ask you what
you thought of that, even ifthat concept in your mind exists, but
it's gotten a little bit modified becauseyou've drawn the distinction between them and us,
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those who created us versus us.We're not them they're not us.
And essentially you've said that those whorule us, who you know, run
the show, so to speak,are not really us, aren't fully human,
or they represent them. And Iguess one of the things that I
was thinking, and I would loveto hear your thoughts about what profit a
man? But can they spend ourmoney? I mean, I'm a little
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confused because if I asked a questionagain, Well, in other words,
obviously the same. If they're people, we'll call them people that started this,
that created us in their image,unless they live forever, they're not
around anymore. So maybe they're justobservers from somewhere else and they have intermediaries
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that are running us for example.Yeah, very that's what I think.
What the UFOs, my opinion,is a lot of not all of it,
but a lot of the UFO activitywhich is not ours. And we've
got a lot of the UFO stuffourselves, the humans there. But if
there is anything out that is notof human origins, in which I think
there is a lot of, Ithink it's probably them, and they are
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then there are probably other entities outin the universe that know about this situation
here we've got on this Earth,and they're coming here to see what the
story is all about too. Iwouldn't be a bit surprised that there are
entities out there who have heard ofsomething going on on this planet called Earth,
and they're coming down here to seewhat these creatures are like. And
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they heard that we were created inthe image and likeness of the entities,
and they're coming down here to watchand see what's going on because there are
because they know something else is gettingready to happen. I think that there's
wars going on between extraterrestrials as whoowns us and who's gonna do? You
know, who's gonna owns and soI wouldn't be a bit surprised that that's
what some of the UFO and alienstuff is. And again, just help
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from other places to see us andjust for the fun of it, because
my question really wasn't meant to beflip, but can they spend our money?
Own us? For what purpose?In other words, if you own
something, or you own a business, or you know you own the product
productive capacity of some person, it'sit's for purpose. So when I ask
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can they spend our money? Ijust I'm sort of wondering do you think
that it's above the physical realm,like, for example, David, I
suggest that it's negative energy. Itis fear, it's what they feed off.
Yeah, I'm not sure how toanswer that. Okay, I just
thought i'd ask it. I'm notreally sure how to answer that, because
I don't think I really understand thequestion. Probably go on. Hello.
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In some of the Gnostic texts,you have the notion that the creators plural
or hideous, horrifying, you know, monsters from the Abyss. Just from
your reading of the Bible and thevarious interpret interpretations of I've heard it said
that you know Satan. Shaytan theaccuser was perhaps are on our side,
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and Jahveh, the vengeful oppressor,was in fact Satan, and you can
flip it. I was just wonderingwhat your thoughts. Well, the Gnostics
say that Yahweh, the Hebrew God, is Satan, and that Yahweh is
the demiurge, the dark force,Darth Vader. That's what the Gnostics,
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the ancient Gnostics taught that Yahweh,the God of the Hebrews, was like
Darth Vader, the evil one.And the Gnostics are very important people and
Gnarscissism is a very important religion.The Christians like to put it down,
but the Christians put down anything thathas anything to do with reading and studying.
But I think that there's a biggerstory here. The man I like
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to listen to on this subject,and there's quite a few of them,
but is Jay Winder Winer is incrediblybrilliant guy and fascinating to listen to.
And also h Lloyd Pie. LloydPie is extraordinarily good on this subject of
how the aliens created us. LloydPie is that you need to know about
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Lloyd Pie and Jay Winder. Ithink we're got have to go there telling
me we're through. Thank you againfor being here.