Journey with Joan - Karen Holton's Transdimensional Experiences of 'Exopolitical Training' on Autism
April 4, 2025 • 62 mins
Ever wonder if our understanding of autism goes beyond the earthly realm? Join us as we explore the extraordinary experiences of our guest, Karen Holton, who shares her transdimensional encounters involving what she describes as "exopolitical training" related to autism. Karen delves into her personal journey of receiving unique insights and methodologies, potentially from extraterrestrial sources, aimed at understanding and supporting neurodiversity. Get ready to have your perceptions challenged as we explore this fascinating and unconventional perspective on autism.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome to Journey with Joan, a podcast hosted by Joan Widen,
a medium, waki master, and mind body spirit coach. Joined
Joan on a transformative journey as she empowers listeners to
embrace their future, let go of the past, and create
a fulfilling life. Are you ready to embark on your
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own journey of self discovery? Please welcome the host of
Journey with Joan, Joan Widen.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good evening and welcome to Journey with Joan, only on
the Bold Brave TV network and I'm your host, Joan Widen.
Journey with Joan is where we dive into the depths
of spirituality, self discovery, and connections that shape our lives.
In today's episode, we are going to talk about a
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transdimensional experience in regarding autism and today my guest Karen
Holton will discuss her experience and what was shown to
her and what information was given to her in regards
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to autism. All right, so please welcome my friends, author,
world author, now exopolitical activist ascension coach Karen Halton.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Hi, Joan, how you doing good in you?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm good. So nice to be back and to be
on your show and with all your lovely listeners and viewers,
and yeah, it's going to be an interesting discussion. It's
been the weirdest week. Like I can't plan when I'm
going to have trans dimensional experiences or paranormal experiences. It
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just happens. So, as you know, I just came back
from spending two weeks with my twin five year old
pharaoh grandchildren, and it was a complete different reality than
I come back, and I'm of course tired, and boom,
I have this amazing trans dimensional experience. Not only was
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the experience very interesting, but there's synchronicity is old week
tying into it to keep confirming that this is something
I'm now supposed to pursue and talk about. So it's
something I have not talked about before.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So tell us the first synchronicity.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Okay, well, well let me tell you basically what happens.
So it's about three o'clock in the morning on Tuesday,
April the second, just this week, and I wake up
quite suddenly and I'm acutely aware that I have been
in a deep discussion and learning environment with an entity.
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And as most of you know, those of you who
have read my book, I'm just going to show a
picture of my book, Transdimensional Meet the New Neighbors. If
you've read my book, or if you do read my book.
In the first couple chapters, I get into all kinds
of paranormal experiences that I've had and how I'm able
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to travel, for lack of a better word, travel transdimensionally.
But it happens to me while I'm sleeping, so it
doesn't happen to me while I'm awake. It happens while
I'm in a sleep state. And trans dimensional experiences are
very different than my dream states. Dream states don't make
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a lot of sense. I don't always remember them, you know,
there's no continuity, there's no deep learning or teaching. It's
a completely different experience. But when it's transdimensional, I feel
like I'm absolutely there, and I don't remember what the
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entity look like, but I remember that I was in
deep communication with this entity and not only learning incredibly
important information, but but also the urgency to talk about
it and to get it out there. And after an
experience like this, I'm always left going, well, how the
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heck am I supposed to do this? Like It's not
like I'm some kind of a scientist or a brilliant person.
I'm pretty ordinary, and here I have to get this
information out. But it takes me a couple of days
to kind of unpack the information even realize what I've experienced. Right,
and so I wake up right exactly, So I wake
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up about three o'clock in the morning, and I go
and use the washroom and I go, this is really important, Karen.
You got to write it down. And I went, no way,
I'm exhausted, I'm going back to sleep. Went back to sleep,
woke up about eight thirty in the morning and just
started thinking about my experience. And part of the thing
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that is also interesting is I myself am what they
would call high masking autistic, which means for short periods
of time, I can pass as an army. But if
you understood the details of my life, you would definitely
understand that I am definitely on the spectrum with all
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of its challenges and uh. And I've sort of hidden
it because my family of origin taught me to be
ashamed of it, because they were afraid that people would
think I was crazy. I didn't get a diagnosis until
I was in my mid forties because it's not well
recognized in women, especially high masking women, and so it's
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often interpreted interpreted as other things besides what it is.
So I didn't get the support and help and understanding
that I that I needed. So and so my family
always treated me like I was defective and I wasn't
trying hard, and I was rebellious and gave me all
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these labels. So I really have hit my autism very
very much. I didn't even mention it in my first
book because I I don't know it was obviously it
wasn't time. So anyway, then I have this experience. I
wake up.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It was just wasn't meant to be at that for
you to release that, because it really had no relevance
in your book.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well it kind of it didn't then, but it does
now Now I'm compelled to write another book expanding on
what I covered in my first book. But anyway, So
then Tuesday, and I'm thinking about it kind of during
the day and then unpacking it. And then in the afternoon,
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I'm just scrolling through Facebook and lo and behold its
National Autism Awareness Day, and I thought, what, what are
the chances that I would have this experience? Then it
turns out it's on autism Awareness Day, right, and I thought,
that's all you know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Spirit, that's how you know Spirit is talking to you,
because that isn't a coincidence. And that really was just
a confirmation to say, yes, yes, you did have that,
and yes, the discussion was on autism.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Right, absolutely, And I'll just tell you the gist of
what my discussion with the entity was and the learning
I got, and it was impressed very strongly upon me
that autism is not an illness. It's not a broken
form of being human. It isn't what people think it is,
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and it certainly isn't what the mainstream helping agencies and
medical experts think that it is. It's not a law.
Some of us have different abilities. Some are nonverbal, some
have poor control over their body movement. You know, we
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come in all shapes and sizes, and it's a spectrum,
but we have some things all that we all share
in common, and it usually has to do with intense
sensitivities to stimulation and also vulnerabilities. But we're not a
defective kind of person. And what's interesting is we have
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these paranormal gifts that go along with it. So what
it actually is is a bit of an evolution of humanity.
And what's really interesting is it's linked into the UFO
alien presence phenomenon, which I haven't heard anybody else except
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for maybe Joe Rogan mentioned this. And it's very interesting
because as we have seen the huge uptick in UFO
sightings and alien contact and people coming out and talking
about this, we have also seen a huge uptick in
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the occurrence of autism amongst human beings. Very interesting, which
leads me to a hypothesis that possibly the increase in
alien contact, which I believe is transdimensional, is in response
to the uptick and autism in our societies globally. And
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I need to think more about this. I mean, I
just had this experience on Tuesday morning. Today's only Friday.
I need to unback it further and think about it
and process it. But it's very very interesting because I'm
making these connections that I'm supposed to be making, and
then I'm supposed to make some kind of sense out
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of it and then present it to humanity and produce
another book. So this is how I roll. So I
was panicking a little bit. I was thinking, well, I'm
not a scientist, I'm not a medical professional, I'm not
an occupational therapist. I am actual by training, a social worker.
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How am I supposed to you know, put all this together?
And it came to me very simply, the same way
my first book came to me. I just put one
foot in front of the other. I compile my data,
my information, my thoughts, and all kinds of analysis on
the whole process, and then I put it into writing
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and it will happen exactly as it's supposed to happen
when it's supposed to happen. And boy, that really takes
the pressure off.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well, if you really think about it too, Karen. A
lot of people don't don't understand autism thoroughly right. Some
people feel like it's a neuro deficit, it's a different wiring.
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There are different things because it's on a huge spectrum
that people don't understand. And I remember speaking earlier this week,
you even showed me a a grid where autism overlaps
with ADHD autism and and the gifted right giftedness. Yeah, yeah,
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And so there's so many things to like divulge in there.
And really, I feel like your experience has given you
a deeper meaning into understanding it so that it's a
it's not a wrongness and it's not a bad thing right.
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And also with autism, it comes with humility and empathy
and understanding that again it's someone's not just because someone's
not like you, or doesn't think like you, or doesn't
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act the way you want them to do. It goes
by what I've always said is we have to stop
controlling the universe around us so that the universe can
open its doors to deliver things to us. So quickly
say something, because we're going to go to break here
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in about thirty seconds. So how do you want to
wrap this up quickly before we.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
When we come back, maybe I could talk about when
we come back from break. What I'd really like to
talk about is what my experience with autism is like
and how I feel that contributes to our paranormal abilities
and gifts, spiritual gifts that so called normies may not experience.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
All Right, so you heard it. We are all you know,
We are normal in our own worlds, even though there
are different things. And look at Karen. If you were
to look at Karen, you would never know that she
is actually on the spectrum. And on that note, we're
going to give some love to her and the engineers.
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Speaker 2 (16:59):
Welcome back watching Journey with Joan only on the Bold
Brave TV Network. I'm your host, Joan Widen. This podcast
is where we dive into the depths of spirituality, self discovery,
and the connections that shape our lives today. Before the break,
we are talking to my good friend, exopolitical ambassador, author,
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world author and Ascension coach Karen Houlton.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I wow, So I want to talk about what it's
like to be autistic. Now, we're all on a spectrum
and we have some things in common, but we're not
all the same. Obviously, I'm able to speak, I'm able
to stop fidgeting and control my body movements for short
periods of time. I'm able to do a lot of
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things that which made it more difficult for me to
get a diagnosis, to be honest with you, but there
are some things we have in common too, and right, sorry,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No, what I was just gonna say is also because
of your age and the time frame that you grew up,
we weren't allowed to fidget in school, right, So there
would be like it would have been a harsher punishment
for you for fidgeting than it was for me. You
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would get the slap, you know, with like a ruler
or whatever on the hands, like stop moving, right, So
so you kind of had to adjust or hope, right.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, and a lot of shaming so that I internalized
that I was somehow defective. I internalized that, and.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well I'm shaming to to like be to make like
to say that you were a bad person even though.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You were, Yeah, that I wasn't trying hard enough, or
that I was and I had some agenda tom where
is my family or god knows what. But what I
wanted to say is what we all have in common
is we're extremely sensitive to stimulation. So that means that
when we are around too much light, especially artificial lighting,
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when we're around a lot of noise. It could be
anything like in the wintertime here they use snowblowers a lot,
and in the summer they're always out with the weed
whacker and the lawnmower. The sound that produces actually causes
me physical pain and anxiety. And so we're super super
sensitive to stimulation, and so what happens is many of
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us dissociate. But this is where I want to say,
for me, the hallmark I think of autism for myself
is it's like having my feet in two different worlds.
So one foot is here in the three dimensional world.
I'm aware of you, I'm aware of my environment, but
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one foot is someplace else, And I don't know exactly
what to call it because I'm just figuring it out
in you know, putting it into English, into language myself.
But it's being someplace else. And so it's like riding
if you can imagine riding a horse, and you've got
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one foot on one horse and one foot on another,
and you're trying to keep your horses going in the
same direction. It's extremely stressful just trying to be and
do being a human and trying to do society and
everything else. And there's so much that we don't get now.
(20:42):
Sometimes I'm more on the horse that's here in the
three D, and sometimes I'm more on the horse that
someplace else. Right, And when I'm someplace ELTs yeah. And
when of someplace else, I am not aware of my surroundings.
Very difficult for me to communicate with you, to acknowledge
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your presence, to stay focused on you, very very difficult
because I'm someplace else. But it's in that other place
that I have paranormal gifts. It's in that other place
that I'm able to have telepathic communication with different beings,
different even non I should say, non corporeal humans. For instance,
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my cousin Betty recently passed away, and she had told
me that I was an embarrassment to her, and she
wasn't comfortable having me around until I could act more
like her daughter. And I can't act like her daughter.
For one thing, her daughter's not autistic. For another thing,
I'm not her daughter. I'm me. I'm someone else, right,
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And so because I couldn't act like her daughter when
I was at family gatherings, I was no longer welcome.
And so so that was the kind of falling out
that we had. And then when Betty passed, she came
to see me, and she looked beautiful. She was in
this long lace gown and she hugged me and hugged me,
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and I really felt her love, and I felt that
everything was good between us, Like you know what I mean,
that happened for a whole bunch of misunderstandings. And to
be honest with you, I don't always want to tell
people about how I'm different because I don't think I
should have to I should have to explain myself. I should,
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you know. But because I don't think I'm doing anything
wrong and I'm just weird. I guess she told me
it was weird, so.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
My thing is.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
But there's an example of one of the things that
happens to me when I'm in a transdimensional state. Another
one is this incredible transdimensional extraterrestrial contact I've had with
these beings enough to be able to write a whole
book about it. I mean that happens because I'm somewhere
else and not here, and so it's it's I call
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it being out of phase. It's like I'm it's like
if you take a radio station and you've got it
perfectly on the station, it's really nice and clear and
you enjoy it, sounds good, but if you turn it
to another station, you got something completely different, or if
you're halfway in between, it's very irritating and doesn't make
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sense and hard to understand. And you know, I don't
know if you remember the days of radio important.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's you know, like there's yeah, you've got some reverb,
and then you the odd time you'll hear words from
another station. That's because it's not fine fine, exactly, it's
like station.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
So it's like being a little bit out of tune
all the time. So it requires a terrific amount of
concentration for me to stay focused, to be invested in
the person I'm communicating with, And so it makes social
activities very, very difficult because I only have so much
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time that I can concentrate for and then I start
to lose it and I start to go into the
other channel as it were.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay, I have a question though for you.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Question, So in our world, the three D world, then
you're saying that you're it's not quite fine tuned. But
would you say that the other half, your other foot
is on a channel that is actually more fine tuned
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than the one here on earth in the three D world.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yes, And in some it's like two or three channels
all at once. So I've just given example. I'm a
podcast host. I try to live my shows to an hour.
Sometimes I go an hour and fifteen minutes from concentrating
on everything that's being said to me, and sometimes I'm
more successful with it than others. But we get very
good at pretending that we're paying attention. And it's not
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any intention to not pay attention, it's just that's the
nature of the beast, right. But then for the rest
of the day, I'm no good. I can't have a
conversation with anybody for the rest of the day because
I am unable to focus. I used up. It's like
it's like money in the bank. Right, if you've got
fifty bucks in the bank and you spend sixty dollars
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your ten bucks in the hole, you know, And it's
like that with our ability to concentrate and pay attention.
So I'm very poor at telephone conversations. I have very
few telephone conversations because after certain point, I'm just gone,
I'm not there, and I don't even know what I'm saying,
and it's embarrassing. And also I don't really always have
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the skills to tell the other person, so I just
kind of say I got to go because I do
have to go. But it's also because at that point there,
I'm not giving them the respect that they're due for
listening to them. So when I'm on other shows, I
have done some two hour shows, but it's it takes
a lot. It takes a terrific amount of concentration, and
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then there's the payback time where I have to recover
from that. And so my life does not in any
way resemble a normal life. But I'm not complaining because
I figured out how to arrange my life so that
I can make it work. Another thing is.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
You've had how many years I'm not going to say
too you know, I just and figure out what works
for you and cope your coping mechanisms and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
That you to work it out. Actually, the funny thing
is is that when I moved to Alberta and I
tried to make contact with my relatives because my mom
and my dad were from here and I wanted to
find out more about them by getting to know my relatives,
and they actually completely rejected me because of being weird.
(27:23):
And at first it kind of hit me hard, but
then I realized what a blessing it was. Excuse me,
because it gave me the solitude to work on myself
and figure out what I need in my life to
make my life productive and happy and to recover from
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you know, intergenerational dysfunction. We've all got that nasty bit
to deal.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
With, right, Yeah, And it was absolute blessing.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Excuse A lot of.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
People think I'm weird too, and I kind of like it.
You know, well, we are all weird in our own ways.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well your sorts. It just sorts out the masses. Because
the people who think we're too weird for them, I
don't want anything to do with them.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That people, That is very true.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And the people who are loving and accept us the
way we are. Those are the people I want to
be around.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Right works perfect, it's almost too much work. Two like
downgrade ourselves. And and also it's it's pulling our energy
low in order to quote unquote fit in, fit in
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what their box right, that they want us to be.
And so for me, I'd rather be on my own
then have to sit through that for three or four hours.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Waste of time. And when you get older like me,
you realize you don't have to many years left. Do
you want to make it all good? Right? And I
find it's very much like the metaphor of dancing. One
person's going to come along and tell you should be
doing the Highland fling, and so you're doing the Highland
Fling right, because that's what they're expecting for their reality.
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And somebody else comes along and says, no, no, no, no,
you got it all wrong. You should be waltzing, and
so you start waltzing so you can fit into their paradigm.
And then somebody else comes along and tells you, you know,
you should be doing something different again, and it's like
crazy making. But if you do your own dance, If
you do your own dance, and the people that can't
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handle it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You bad fluid if you adjust to whatever everyone else
tells you to do right. And so it's kind of like,
and I know this is probably bad to me to say,
but like the Break Dancer the Australia and Break Dancer
(30:02):
in the Olympics, it was almost like someone told her
these are the elements that you need to put in it,
and then she put it all together and everyone's like,
what do you know what I mean? And that's how
it translates. It would be like, okay, Karen seeing Michael
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Jackson and I want you to sound exactly like Michael Jackson,
and I want you to dance and do thriller like him.
Like it just wouldn't translate very well. I would look
very very weird.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And it takes way too much energy. And the thing
is is that when we raise our frequency and we
start to attract other people of higher frequency, you don't
get those expectations. Everybody just kind of okay. I mean,
as long as we're not hurting ourselves or hurting anyone else,
as long as we're at that point where we understand
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love is the only thing that really works, and that
includes being patient and being and kindness and mildness and
controlling our temper and it's a big job, but if
we work at it, we become more loving and more lovable,
and then we start to find each other and connect
and it's a beautiful place to be. Now, getting back
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to the autism thing, is that well.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Before you get back to the autistic thing, we will
end on the spreading love being of light and in
the higher vibration. So we'll end off on that and
we'll be back in two and we'll discuss more on
autism after the break.
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Welcome back here watching Jenny with Joan Only on the
Bold Brave TV Network and your host John Wyden. Here
is where we dive into the depths of spirituality, self discovery,
and the connections that shape our lives. Today, we are
talking about autism with Karen Holton and her transdimensional experience
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in the exopolitical training that she had to speak about autism.
All right, before the break, you said you wanted to
get back into the autism.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Go okay, So again getting back to my unbelievable week.
So I had this transdimensional experience, right, and I was
clearly engaged with an entity that was communicating with me
what I needed to put out there to humanity. And
then I find out the very same day it's Autism
(34:54):
Awareness Week a week or day. So I got that confirmation. Well,
then the day after that, while after I had made
all my notes and everything, I just comes up on
my YouTube feed the telepathy tapes, and so I watched
season one, episode one, and I'm going, oh my god,
(35:17):
it is true. It's true. So basically what the entity
taught me is that telepathy is effortless amongst autistic people,
and the more restricted we are physically mentally as far
as mainstream society goes, the more gifted we actually are.
(35:39):
And so I didn't know. I had heard about the
telepathy tapes, but I hadn't actually watched them until after
I had made all my notes. And that's what the
entity wanted me to know, is that is that people
with autism are like an evolution of humanity. We're going
in a specific direction for a specific spiritual evolving, not
(36:04):
not the way that uh, you know, science thinks of
as evolution where a monkey turns into a human, But
I'm talking about our next stage of development. We're moving
into that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And I'd like to quickly add to that. And so
you say the like by being out of the norm
or weird, if you will, from the normal of society,
You're right. It's because even like autistic people, they don't
(36:40):
have like they they don't necessarily have quote unquote control,
and nor do they want to control their lives. So
therefore they are completely wide open to everything and it
doesn't matter how they come in and to your point
(37:03):
about being gifted and intuition and all of those things,
because they're out of their own way, it's easier for
them to tap into the telepathy and to spirit and
through other worlds, because there's no right and there's no wrong.
(37:25):
It's just show me.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Absolutely. And so some people with more severe forms of autism,
they don't even have a foot on the horse that's here.
They're all in that other place. And in that other
place is universal consciousness, and it is the only thing
limiting our use of it is our minds and of
(37:50):
the programming we've received that tells us that that's not real,
and we're taught the closest thing we can get to
it is to go to church and do it. The
pastor or the priest says, because they're the expert. And
so we've been really cut off from this whole reality
that people with autism may live their whole reality in
that other place, and so and so that makes it
(38:15):
so that we can contact and be in communication with
people that we're alive at one time on the earth
and are no longer here, so we can get teaching
from them, whether it's physics, other languages, hieroglyphics. We are
able to contact ancestors or you know, like great grandparents
(38:36):
and get the loving teaching from them that they were
not wise enough or aware enough to share while they
were on earth, or perhaps there's just such a separation
with the generations that are here now that they don't
have that contact. There is, of course telepathy, which is
just one small part of what's possible. There is et contact,
(39:02):
but more than that, the spiritual realms, and it's incredible
what these people are experiencing. So what I think what's
interesting about my case is I feel like I'm high
functioning enough to somehow form a bridge between the three
(39:25):
dimensional reality and the autistic reality so that I can
write about my experiences, my perceptions, my take on things,
and hopefully open the minds not only of people who
what we would call normal or normies, but also other
autistics who have diagnosis. Or diagnosis is not always a
(39:49):
good thing because you can get streamed into all these
helping agencies that don't really understand that it's not a defect,
it's not an illusion, it's not anything oken. We are here.
We are here, and we are present. We just can't
communicate or interface the way uh mainstream society requires us to.
(40:14):
But that doesn't mean we're not communicating, and we could communicate.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Right like in how society says you have to communicate
and says how you have to be empathetic and set
you know what I mean like I and also from
what I know from some people on the spectrum also
is that they're not easily bought and sold crap. Does
(40:44):
that make sense because they think of their own.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
First, absolutely, But it's also a curse. Like for instance, me,
growing up, I knew what other people were thinking. Not
all their thoughts, but some of their thoughts. They're stronger thoughts.
So give you an example. When I was in the
room and my mom was flirting with some guy my mom,
that's another story. We won't get into it. And that
(41:11):
guy was having what I would call lascivious intentions towards
my mother. It came across loud and clear to me.
I was absolutely aware that this was going on. When
I tried to tell my mom, she would shame me,
make fun of me, tell me, oh, that's ridiculous, that's
your uncle so and so. He would never do something
(41:33):
like that. I learned to sort of put a cap
on it and shut it down. But now I'm at
an age where I no longer care what people think
of me, and I have given myself permission to be
a much more freer human being. I'm now opening that
back up and realizing if it feels like there's something wrong,
(41:54):
there's something wrong, and just going on my intuition more
and allowing myself my spirit to be free. And I
think it's just.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
There, right, Like the energy, like when people have weird
intentions and they're not good. The energy is very heavy
and you can actually what it's almost like it's a
curtain in the room, and then it's like a big beacon.
(42:24):
So if you are at all any sort of gifted
like intuitionally or even have autism, it's almost like neon
lights going blinking at you.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Right it is. But what I had to do is
to stop gaslighting myself, so because when I would try
to tell other people, I would get gas lit. That
was the way it was for so long. And I
don't want to get into all the details. We'd be
on a six hour show. But I internalize the habit
(43:02):
of gaslighting myself so that when I would get a
warning feeling about somebody, I would go, well, give them
the benefit of the doubt, and you know, maybe I'm
prejudging them, or I don't know where these thoughts are
coming from, but you know, I need to give them
every opportunity to be a kind person. And my kids
(43:23):
used to always tell me, mom, people are not the
way you are. They're not like you. They're just not.
And it took me a long time to figure that out.
Now now that I've start gaslighting myself, oh, I'm a
completely different person. I have really good sales resistance and
I do not get bamboozled anymore, not my politicians or
(43:45):
anybody anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
It's really it's because we were used to getting shamed,
excuse me, and so we would gaslight ourselves to say,
why did you think that? Why would you do that?
Are you crazy? Do you know what I mean? Like,
it's weird kind of things just like that, Just like
(44:10):
in my experience when I was quote unquote forced to
meet this priest and he put his hand out to
shake my hand, and I shook his hand, and I
like immediately went, no, do you know what I mean?
(44:33):
And I kind of had to, you know, at the time,
because it was what I saw and what I felt
was not good, you know, And there was Catholic priest,
so you can imagine exactly what I saw right, So
then you kind of go and then you gaslight. Then
I gaslit my own self to say, why did you
(44:55):
do that? Were you being a bit crazy? You know,
all these different things. So again it's it is what
it is, And now I just don't care, and I
actually prefer not. I just say hi, and I don't
necessarily like to shake their head.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm like that with eye contact. Some autistic people have
trouble with icontact, others do not, But for me, I
feel like it's kind of like soul sharing. It's a
bit feels a bit intimate for me, and if I
don't really know the person or trust them, I don't
want to give them my contact because I don't know.
(45:44):
It makes me feel uncomfortable. And yet I listen much
better when I'm not looking at the person. So I've
trained myself to look at the person because that's what's expected.
Otherwise people think they're not paying attention. But then another
weird thing takes over, And this is the ad ADHD
part of part of my being is I'll look at
(46:06):
someone's face and they're talking to me, and I notice
one eyebrows a little crooked than the other one. And
I'll notice that that.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Their nose is not this or that, and I exactly
or I'll notice, oh and it looks like they color
their hair, and all this analysis chatters going on in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
How am I supposed to pay attention to what they
just said to me? So it's another reason why I
don't like to do eye contact because otherwise I'm analyzing
every little subtle detail and I see it all, you know,
with someone's face, which I thought is kind of strange,
but it's just how I am. It's a karenism that
(46:46):
I gotta deal with.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
On that note, we're gonna go and we're going to
end there on the note of you're right when like,
I have that thing too. I'm looking at people and
I notice every little thing. So if they were to
leave the room and someone would say, can you describe
that person? It totally could like write down like if
(47:10):
they had a necklace, what it looked like like, if
they had spinach in their teeth or whatever. And so
it's one of those weird attention of detailed things, but
it is what it is, and that's that's how it
(47:31):
works for us. Okay. And on that note, we're going
to give more love and spread some love cue everyone.
We'll be back into.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
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Speaker 2 (50:11):
Personal welcome back. You're watching Journey with Joan only on
the Bold Brave TV network and I'm your host, Joan Wynon. Sorry,
just ran to the other book or other room to
grab a book. But here we dive into the depths
of spirituality, self discovery and the connections that shape our lives.
(50:33):
Today we are talking to Karen Holton about her transdimensional
EXO political experience training in autism.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Take a Journey, thank you. So I want to spend
a few minutes just talking about the whole UFO et
autism where that all seems to intersect. So I know
a lot of people don't even believe in ET, they
don't even believe in UFOs, and you know there's much
(51:10):
controversy about all that. But from my perspective being an
experience or of course I believe and I know this
is absolutely true. Now what's coming out more now and
what coincides with my experience is that these beings are transdimensional.
So it is a frequency related thing where they are
(51:34):
someplace else, but it's not measurable in miles or distance.
It's a dimensional somewhere else or a frequency related somewhere else.
And it is my firm belief that autistic individuals, depending
on what your gifts are, are able to also interface
(51:54):
the same as they can with angels and lots of
other beings, as we've talked about in the show so far. Now,
it's interesting to me, and I haven't heard anyone else
say this, that it's interesting that there is such an
uptick in sightings of UFOs and an alien contact and
(52:16):
also in the rise of autism. Now at there's many
reasons for the increase in autism. I think part of
it is the transhumanist agenda, but it's backfired. And so
there are forces on earth, be they human, be they demonic,
(52:36):
I don't know, be they et related, I don't know.
I'm not going to speculate on that, but they have
been trying to turn humans into something else, and it's backfired,
and so it's produced a lot of children who are
extremely what we would classify as disabled. But then again,
(52:58):
it's how you slice and dice it. They would think
of us as being or as normal people as being
disabled because normal people don't have that kind of other
worldly component to their reality. So I think that's part
of it. Part of it, I think is a natural
(53:18):
progression of where we are within cycles, within cycles that
happen in this reality. I think there's also influences from
perhaps intergalactic influences from our son, from other sons. There's
a central son that's sending out a pulse right now
that's elevating people spiritually. It could be some of that,
(53:42):
could be a whole lot of things. Now I have
a concern, and that is what's coming out now, is
there are what we will loosely call the military industrial complex,
and they have people they call them scionic that are
able to communicate with extraterrestrials and bring them into our reality,
(54:08):
and then they're being shot down and they're being stolen
or repurposed or whatever. So there's that going on, and
a lot of these people with psionics are being taken
from other countries where they're so born to war torn
that they're so disadvantaged, they're so impoverished, and they're offered
(54:32):
a better life if they come in and be part
of the psionics movement, where my concern is are these
autistic people that are being exploited? That's my concern. And now,
autistic people are very savvy on what's going on, so
(54:52):
they would be aware of the underlying agenda of the
military industrial complex, and they would not want to comply
because they tend to be very loving, peaceful beings because
they are aware of so much more than what the
average human is aware of. But there are ways of
(55:14):
overriding that, MK, ultra all kinds of other stuff. And
so my concern is these people who are autistic that
are being used to bring in these crafts so they
can be shot with energy weapons and stuff so that
they can be brought down. And they're also kidnapping the
(55:37):
alien pilots, and their life is not very good either,
And so I have a concern, and don't I don't
have facts to base my conclusions on. This is just
what my intuition is telling me that we should be
aware of, and I wanted to share it with your
audience today.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
So what's interesting what you're talking about, because it's you know,
sometimes TV kind of foretells and tells us what is
actually going on, and what you're telling me, it's kind
of like the Netflix show with eleven right and the Underworld.
(56:18):
I can't remember the name of the show, right, you're
you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Right? No? No, are you talking about Are you talking
about Senate?
Speaker 2 (56:29):
No, I'm talking about We're Stranger Christian Yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
She is in the lab and they're using her. They're
hooking her up, right, Bobby Milly Brown who whatever it is,
so she can get her psychic visions or she can
actually go into another world and do their dirty work
and then come back. Yes, but so Karen, before we
(56:59):
run out of ton, tell people where you're at how
they can find you, because you know. And also Karen
is an author. Here's her book. You can get it
on Amazon. It's great read. It is a totally different
read than your other et type books.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Go Jo, Yeah, Transmensional Meet the New Neighbors. It is
available on Amazon and now, fortunately I have had it
for sale long enough that even if you just go
into Google and type Transdimensional Meet the New Neighbors, it'll
take you right to the Amazon bookstore where you can
(57:41):
buy your copy. So I also am a podcaster. I
have two shows a week. I have the Quantum Guide
show every Wednesday at one pm Mountain Time, that's noon
Pacific and three pm Eastern, where I interview people who
are making a different in this world. And it's all
different subjects, very very interesting. It's an absolute privilege to
(58:06):
be able to sit down and have a conversation with
some of the most brilliant minds in the world. I
just love it so much. And we go live so
you can participate in the conversation if you come to
the live. It's also available on all audio podcasts and
as a replay and then n again.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
So the Quantum QATIM Show.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
The Quantum Guide Show with Karen Holton. And the other
thing is I'm on many different platforms including YouTube, and
I'm always under at Karen Holton TV. So if you
type in at Karen Holton TV into say Google, you'll
come up with all tons. You can find me on Instagram,
you can find me on rumble x, Facebook, ib all
(58:52):
over the place. And I have another show on Sunday's
called Aliens and Angels and I either talk about my
book or my own experiences, or I do Q and
a's or I have guests on who have also had
contact either with what we would call e T or
angels or anything within that phenomenon. It's very interesting. Show
(59:17):
us a little bit more informal. I have generally more
time to take comments from the live chat. So again,
if you come and join us where that's noon Mountain time,
eleven am Pacific and two pm Eastern. And again it's
all replayed on all the platforms, and it's also replayed
(59:41):
on all the audio platforms. And if you want to
find me on like an audio platform, you would type
in the Quantum Guide show with Karen Holton and all
my content will come up for you there. And yeah,
and then again I have my book. Mine is a
edit copy, so it's got that band across the front,
(01:00:04):
whereas Jones does not, and your copy when you order
it will not. But anyway, it's available worldwide, Amazon worldwide
and Labor of Love. And it's all about the three
months that I spent with transdimensionally going to aboard the
(01:00:25):
Big Ship, the et beings that I met, the culture,
what we ate, what we did every day, careers, everything,
it's all in there. And so you want a different, yeah,
different slant on the whole et. And my experience was
nothing but positive, nothing but positive, And so I recommend everybody,
(01:00:50):
and in the beginning of that and in the beginning
of that book, I also talk quite a bit about
my paranormal life and the different kinds of contact I've
been able to have through trans dimensional abilities.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Awesome. Thank you Karen so much for joining me tonight.
Unfortunately we have run out of time again. Karen Halton,
thank you for coming. Here's her book, trans Dimensional Meet
the Neighbors Other Way this way, make sure you check
it out. It's also on audible, so if you're not
(01:01:24):
able to read it, you can listen to it while
you drive. I recommend it. It's a great read. It's different.
It's a positive spin on et life. Instead of your
typical abductees and feeling violated, here is more educational where
(01:01:46):
she goes through talks about things on the Mothership and
what they have actually taught her and shown her about
their species. All right, well, thank you very much. I
appreciate you all. Thank you for listening. Your watch Journey
with Joan only on the Bold Brave TV Network until
next time. Embrace What Feels a Soul seven pm, Mountain
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nine pm Eastern. Good Night.
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good evening and welcome to Journey with Joan, only on
the Bold Brave TV network and I'm your host, Joan Widen.
Journey with Joan is where we dive into the depths
of spirituality, self discovery, and connections that shape our lives.
In today's episode, we are going to talk about a
(01:28):
transdimensional experience in regarding autism and today my guest Karen
Holton will discuss her experience and what was shown to
her and what information was given to her in regards
(01:49):
to autism. All right, so please welcome my friends, author,
world author, now exopolitical activist ascension coach Karen Halton.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Hi, Joan, how you doing good in you?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm good. So nice to be back and to be
on your show and with all your lovely listeners and viewers,
and yeah, it's going to be an interesting discussion. It's
been the weirdest week. Like I can't plan when I'm
going to have trans dimensional experiences or paranormal experiences. It
(02:32):
just happens. So, as you know, I just came back
from spending two weeks with my twin five year old
pharaoh grandchildren, and it was a complete different reality than
I come back, and I'm of course tired, and boom,
I have this amazing trans dimensional experience. Not only was
(02:55):
the experience very interesting, but there's synchronicity is old week
tying into it to keep confirming that this is something
I'm now supposed to pursue and talk about. So it's
something I have not talked about before.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So tell us the first synchronicity.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Okay, well, well let me tell you basically what happens.
So it's about three o'clock in the morning on Tuesday,
April the second, just this week, and I wake up
quite suddenly and I'm acutely aware that I have been
in a deep discussion and learning environment with an entity.
(03:44):
And as most of you know, those of you who
have read my book, I'm just going to show a
picture of my book, Transdimensional Meet the New Neighbors. If
you've read my book, or if you do read my book.
In the first couple chapters, I get into all kinds
of paranormal experiences that I've had and how I'm able
(04:06):
to travel, for lack of a better word, travel transdimensionally.
But it happens to me while I'm sleeping, so it
doesn't happen to me while I'm awake. It happens while
I'm in a sleep state. And trans dimensional experiences are
very different than my dream states. Dream states don't make
(04:28):
a lot of sense. I don't always remember them, you know,
there's no continuity, there's no deep learning or teaching. It's
a completely different experience. But when it's transdimensional, I feel
like I'm absolutely there, and I don't remember what the
(04:48):
entity look like, but I remember that I was in
deep communication with this entity and not only learning incredibly
important information, but but also the urgency to talk about
it and to get it out there. And after an
experience like this, I'm always left going, well, how the
(05:08):
heck am I supposed to do this? Like It's not
like I'm some kind of a scientist or a brilliant person.
I'm pretty ordinary, and here I have to get this
information out. But it takes me a couple of days
to kind of unpack the information even realize what I've experienced. Right,
and so I wake up right exactly, So I wake
(05:30):
up about three o'clock in the morning, and I go
and use the washroom and I go, this is really important, Karen.
You got to write it down. And I went, no way,
I'm exhausted, I'm going back to sleep. Went back to sleep,
woke up about eight thirty in the morning and just
started thinking about my experience. And part of the thing
(05:51):
that is also interesting is I myself am what they
would call high masking autistic, which means for short periods
of time, I can pass as an army. But if
you understood the details of my life, you would definitely
understand that I am definitely on the spectrum with all
(06:12):
of its challenges and uh. And I've sort of hidden
it because my family of origin taught me to be
ashamed of it, because they were afraid that people would
think I was crazy. I didn't get a diagnosis until
I was in my mid forties because it's not well
recognized in women, especially high masking women, and so it's
(06:36):
often interpreted interpreted as other things besides what it is.
So I didn't get the support and help and understanding
that I that I needed. So and so my family
always treated me like I was defective and I wasn't
trying hard, and I was rebellious and gave me all
(06:57):
these labels. So I really have hit my autism very
very much. I didn't even mention it in my first
book because I I don't know it was obviously it
wasn't time. So anyway, then I have this experience. I
wake up.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It was just wasn't meant to be at that for
you to release that, because it really had no relevance
in your book.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well it kind of it didn't then, but it does
now Now I'm compelled to write another book expanding on
what I covered in my first book. But anyway, So
then Tuesday, and I'm thinking about it kind of during
the day and then unpacking it. And then in the afternoon,
(07:45):
I'm just scrolling through Facebook and lo and behold its
National Autism Awareness Day, and I thought, what, what are
the chances that I would have this experience? Then it
turns out it's on autism Awareness Day, right, and I thought,
that's all you know.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Spirit, that's how you know Spirit is talking to you,
because that isn't a coincidence. And that really was just
a confirmation to say, yes, yes, you did have that,
and yes, the discussion was on autism.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Right, absolutely, And I'll just tell you the gist of
what my discussion with the entity was and the learning
I got, and it was impressed very strongly upon me
that autism is not an illness. It's not a broken
form of being human. It isn't what people think it is,
(08:49):
and it certainly isn't what the mainstream helping agencies and
medical experts think that it is. It's not a law.
Some of us have different abilities. Some are nonverbal, some
have poor control over their body movement. You know, we
(09:10):
come in all shapes and sizes, and it's a spectrum,
but we have some things all that we all share
in common, and it usually has to do with intense
sensitivities to stimulation and also vulnerabilities. But we're not a
defective kind of person. And what's interesting is we have
(09:33):
these paranormal gifts that go along with it. So what
it actually is is a bit of an evolution of humanity.
And what's really interesting is it's linked into the UFO
alien presence phenomenon, which I haven't heard anybody else except
(09:55):
for maybe Joe Rogan mentioned this. And it's very interesting
because as we have seen the huge uptick in UFO
sightings and alien contact and people coming out and talking
about this, we have also seen a huge uptick in
(10:15):
the occurrence of autism amongst human beings. Very interesting, which
leads me to a hypothesis that possibly the increase in
alien contact, which I believe is transdimensional, is in response
to the uptick and autism in our societies globally. And
(10:39):
I need to think more about this. I mean, I
just had this experience on Tuesday morning. Today's only Friday.
I need to unback it further and think about it
and process it. But it's very very interesting because I'm
making these connections that I'm supposed to be making, and
then I'm supposed to make some kind of sense out
(11:01):
of it and then present it to humanity and produce
another book. So this is how I roll. So I
was panicking a little bit. I was thinking, well, I'm
not a scientist, I'm not a medical professional, I'm not
an occupational therapist. I am actual by training, a social worker.
(11:22):
How am I supposed to you know, put all this together?
And it came to me very simply, the same way
my first book came to me. I just put one
foot in front of the other. I compile my data,
my information, my thoughts, and all kinds of analysis on
the whole process, and then I put it into writing
(11:44):
and it will happen exactly as it's supposed to happen
when it's supposed to happen. And boy, that really takes
the pressure off.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Well, if you really think about it too, Karen. A
lot of people don't don't understand autism thoroughly right. Some
people feel like it's a neuro deficit, it's a different wiring.
(12:13):
There are different things because it's on a huge spectrum
that people don't understand. And I remember speaking earlier this week,
you even showed me a a grid where autism overlaps
with ADHD autism and and the gifted right giftedness. Yeah, yeah,
(12:41):
And so there's so many things to like divulge in there.
And really, I feel like your experience has given you
a deeper meaning into understanding it so that it's a
it's not a wrongness and it's not a bad thing right.
(13:05):
And also with autism, it comes with humility and empathy
and understanding that again it's someone's not just because someone's
not like you, or doesn't think like you, or doesn't
(13:27):
act the way you want them to do. It goes
by what I've always said is we have to stop
controlling the universe around us so that the universe can
open its doors to deliver things to us. So quickly
say something, because we're going to go to break here
(13:51):
in about thirty seconds. So how do you want to
wrap this up quickly before we.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
When we come back, maybe I could talk about when
we come back from break. What I'd really like to
talk about is what my experience with autism is like
and how I feel that contributes to our paranormal abilities
and gifts, spiritual gifts that so called normies may not experience.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
All Right, so you heard it. We are all you know,
We are normal in our own worlds, even though there
are different things. And look at Karen. If you were
to look at Karen, you would never know that she
is actually on the spectrum. And on that note, we're
going to give some love to her and the engineers.
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So we'll be back into.
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Speaker 2 (16:59):
Welcome back watching Journey with Joan only on the Bold
Brave TV Network. I'm your host, Joan Widen. This podcast
is where we dive into the depths of spirituality, self discovery,
and the connections that shape our lives today. Before the break,
we are talking to my good friend, exopolitical ambassador, author,
(17:23):
world author and Ascension coach Karen Houlton.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I wow, So I want to talk about what it's
like to be autistic. Now, we're all on a spectrum
and we have some things in common, but we're not
all the same. Obviously, I'm able to speak, I'm able
to stop fidgeting and control my body movements for short
periods of time. I'm able to do a lot of
(17:52):
things that which made it more difficult for me to
get a diagnosis, to be honest with you, but there
are some things we have in common too, and right, sorry,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No, what I was just gonna say is also because
of your age and the time frame that you grew up,
we weren't allowed to fidget in school, right, So there
would be like it would have been a harsher punishment
for you for fidgeting than it was for me. You
(18:24):
would get the slap, you know, with like a ruler
or whatever on the hands, like stop moving, right, So
so you kind of had to adjust or hope, right.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, and a lot of shaming so that I internalized
that I was somehow defective. I internalized that, and.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well I'm shaming to to like be to make like
to say that you were a bad person even though.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
You were, Yeah, that I wasn't trying hard enough, or
that I was and I had some agenda tom where
is my family or god knows what. But what I
wanted to say is what we all have in common
is we're extremely sensitive to stimulation. So that means that
when we are around too much light, especially artificial lighting,
(19:14):
when we're around a lot of noise. It could be
anything like in the wintertime here they use snowblowers a lot,
and in the summer they're always out with the weed
whacker and the lawnmower. The sound that produces actually causes
me physical pain and anxiety. And so we're super super
sensitive to stimulation, and so what happens is many of
(19:38):
us dissociate. But this is where I want to say,
for me, the hallmark I think of autism for myself
is it's like having my feet in two different worlds.
So one foot is here in the three dimensional world.
I'm aware of you, I'm aware of my environment, but
(19:59):
one foot is someplace else, And I don't know exactly
what to call it because I'm just figuring it out
in you know, putting it into English, into language myself.
But it's being someplace else. And so it's like riding
if you can imagine riding a horse, and you've got
(20:21):
one foot on one horse and one foot on another,
and you're trying to keep your horses going in the
same direction. It's extremely stressful just trying to be and
do being a human and trying to do society and
everything else. And there's so much that we don't get now.
(20:42):
Sometimes I'm more on the horse that's here in the
three D, and sometimes I'm more on the horse that
someplace else. Right, And when I'm someplace ELTs yeah. And
when of someplace else, I am not aware of my surroundings.
Very difficult for me to communicate with you, to acknowledge
(21:04):
your presence, to stay focused on you, very very difficult
because I'm someplace else. But it's in that other place
that I have paranormal gifts. It's in that other place
that I'm able to have telepathic communication with different beings,
different even non I should say, non corporeal humans. For instance,
(21:30):
my cousin Betty recently passed away, and she had told
me that I was an embarrassment to her, and she
wasn't comfortable having me around until I could act more
like her daughter. And I can't act like her daughter.
For one thing, her daughter's not autistic. For another thing,
I'm not her daughter. I'm me. I'm someone else, right,
(21:50):
And so because I couldn't act like her daughter when
I was at family gatherings, I was no longer welcome.
And so so that was the kind of falling out
that we had. And then when Betty passed, she came
to see me, and she looked beautiful. She was in
this long lace gown and she hugged me and hugged me,
(22:11):
and I really felt her love, and I felt that
everything was good between us, Like you know what I mean,
that happened for a whole bunch of misunderstandings. And to
be honest with you, I don't always want to tell
people about how I'm different because I don't think I
should have to I should have to explain myself. I should,
(22:34):
you know. But because I don't think I'm doing anything
wrong and I'm just weird. I guess she told me
it was weird, so.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
My thing is.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
But there's an example of one of the things that
happens to me when I'm in a transdimensional state. Another
one is this incredible transdimensional extraterrestrial contact I've had with
these beings enough to be able to write a whole
book about it. I mean that happens because I'm somewhere
else and not here, and so it's it's I call
(23:08):
it being out of phase. It's like I'm it's like
if you take a radio station and you've got it
perfectly on the station, it's really nice and clear and
you enjoy it, sounds good, but if you turn it
to another station, you got something completely different, or if
you're halfway in between, it's very irritating and doesn't make
(23:34):
sense and hard to understand. And you know, I don't
know if you remember the days of radio important.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's you know, like there's yeah, you've got some reverb,
and then you the odd time you'll hear words from
another station. That's because it's not fine fine, exactly, it's
like station.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
So it's like being a little bit out of tune
all the time. So it requires a terrific amount of
concentration for me to stay focused, to be invested in
the person I'm communicating with, And so it makes social
activities very, very difficult because I only have so much
(24:17):
time that I can concentrate for and then I start
to lose it and I start to go into the
other channel as it were.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Okay, I have a question though for you.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Question, So in our world, the three D world, then
you're saying that you're it's not quite fine tuned. But
would you say that the other half, your other foot
is on a channel that is actually more fine tuned
(24:51):
than the one here on earth in the three D world.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yes, And in some it's like two or three channels
all at once. So I've just given example. I'm a
podcast host. I try to live my shows to an hour.
Sometimes I go an hour and fifteen minutes from concentrating
on everything that's being said to me, and sometimes I'm
more successful with it than others. But we get very
good at pretending that we're paying attention. And it's not
(25:23):
any intention to not pay attention, it's just that's the
nature of the beast, right. But then for the rest
of the day, I'm no good. I can't have a
conversation with anybody for the rest of the day because
I am unable to focus. I used up. It's like
it's like money in the bank. Right, if you've got
fifty bucks in the bank and you spend sixty dollars
(25:45):
your ten bucks in the hole, you know, And it's
like that with our ability to concentrate and pay attention.
So I'm very poor at telephone conversations. I have very
few telephone conversations because after certain point, I'm just gone,
I'm not there, and I don't even know what I'm saying,
and it's embarrassing. And also I don't really always have
(26:09):
the skills to tell the other person, so I just
kind of say I got to go because I do
have to go. But it's also because at that point there,
I'm not giving them the respect that they're due for
listening to them. So when I'm on other shows, I
have done some two hour shows, but it's it takes
a lot. It takes a terrific amount of concentration, and
(26:32):
then there's the payback time where I have to recover
from that. And so my life does not in any
way resemble a normal life. But I'm not complaining because
I figured out how to arrange my life so that
I can make it work. Another thing is.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
You've had how many years I'm not going to say
too you know, I just and figure out what works
for you and cope your coping mechanisms and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
That you to work it out. Actually, the funny thing
is is that when I moved to Alberta and I
tried to make contact with my relatives because my mom
and my dad were from here and I wanted to
find out more about them by getting to know my relatives,
and they actually completely rejected me because of being weird.
(27:23):
And at first it kind of hit me hard, but
then I realized what a blessing it was. Excuse me,
because it gave me the solitude to work on myself
and figure out what I need in my life to
make my life productive and happy and to recover from
(27:44):
you know, intergenerational dysfunction. We've all got that nasty bit
to deal.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
With, right, Yeah, And it was absolute blessing.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Excuse A lot of.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
People think I'm weird too, and I kind of like it.
You know, well, we are all weird in our own ways.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Well your sorts. It just sorts out the masses. Because
the people who think we're too weird for them, I
don't want anything to do with them.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That people, That is very true.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And the people who are loving and accept us the
way we are. Those are the people I want to
be around.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Right works perfect, it's almost too much work. Two like
downgrade ourselves. And and also it's it's pulling our energy
low in order to quote unquote fit in, fit in
(28:41):
what their box right, that they want us to be.
And so for me, I'd rather be on my own
then have to sit through that for three or four hours.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Waste of time. And when you get older like me,
you realize you don't have to many years left. Do
you want to make it all good? Right? And I
find it's very much like the metaphor of dancing. One
person's going to come along and tell you should be
doing the Highland fling, and so you're doing the Highland
Fling right, because that's what they're expecting for their reality.
(29:17):
And somebody else comes along and says, no, no, no, no,
you got it all wrong. You should be waltzing, and
so you start waltzing so you can fit into their paradigm.
And then somebody else comes along and tells you, you know,
you should be doing something different again, and it's like
crazy making. But if you do your own dance, If
you do your own dance, and the people that can't
(29:39):
handle it.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You bad fluid if you adjust to whatever everyone else
tells you to do right. And so it's kind of like,
and I know this is probably bad to me to say,
but like the Break Dancer the Australia and Break Dancer
(30:02):
in the Olympics, it was almost like someone told her
these are the elements that you need to put in it,
and then she put it all together and everyone's like,
what do you know what I mean? And that's how
it translates. It would be like, okay, Karen seeing Michael
(30:22):
Jackson and I want you to sound exactly like Michael Jackson,
and I want you to dance and do thriller like him.
Like it just wouldn't translate very well. I would look
very very weird.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And it takes way too much energy. And the thing
is is that when we raise our frequency and we
start to attract other people of higher frequency, you don't
get those expectations. Everybody just kind of okay. I mean,
as long as we're not hurting ourselves or hurting anyone else,
as long as we're at that point where we understand
(30:59):
love is the only thing that really works, and that
includes being patient and being and kindness and mildness and
controlling our temper and it's a big job, but if
we work at it, we become more loving and more lovable,
and then we start to find each other and connect
and it's a beautiful place to be. Now, getting back
(31:22):
to the autism thing, is that well.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Before you get back to the autistic thing, we will
end on the spreading love being of light and in
the higher vibration. So we'll end off on that and
we'll be back in two and we'll discuss more on
autism after the break.
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Speaker 2 (33:55):
Welcome back here watching Jenny with Joan Only on the
Bold Brave TV Network and your host John Wyden. Here
is where we dive into the depths of spirituality, self discovery,
and the connections that shape our lives. Today, we are
talking about autism with Karen Holton and her transdimensional experience
(34:21):
in the exopolitical training that she had to speak about autism.
All right, before the break, you said you wanted to
get back into the autism.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Go okay, So again getting back to my unbelievable week.
So I had this transdimensional experience, right, and I was
clearly engaged with an entity that was communicating with me
what I needed to put out there to humanity. And
then I find out the very same day it's Autism
(34:54):
Awareness Week a week or day. So I got that confirmation. Well,
then the day after that, while after I had made
all my notes and everything, I just comes up on
my YouTube feed the telepathy tapes, and so I watched
season one, episode one, and I'm going, oh my god,
(35:17):
it is true. It's true. So basically what the entity
taught me is that telepathy is effortless amongst autistic people,
and the more restricted we are physically mentally as far
as mainstream society goes, the more gifted we actually are.
(35:39):
And so I didn't know. I had heard about the
telepathy tapes, but I hadn't actually watched them until after
I had made all my notes. And that's what the
entity wanted me to know, is that is that people
with autism are like an evolution of humanity. We're going
in a specific direction for a specific spiritual evolving, not
(36:04):
not the way that uh, you know, science thinks of
as evolution where a monkey turns into a human, But
I'm talking about our next stage of development. We're moving
into that.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And I'd like to quickly add to that. And so
you say the like by being out of the norm
or weird, if you will, from the normal of society,
You're right. It's because even like autistic people, they don't
(36:40):
have like they they don't necessarily have quote unquote control,
and nor do they want to control their lives. So
therefore they are completely wide open to everything and it
doesn't matter how they come in and to your point
(37:03):
about being gifted and intuition and all of those things,
because they're out of their own way, it's easier for
them to tap into the telepathy and to spirit and
through other worlds, because there's no right and there's no wrong.
(37:25):
It's just show me.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Absolutely. And so some people with more severe forms of autism,
they don't even have a foot on the horse that's here.
They're all in that other place. And in that other
place is universal consciousness, and it is the only thing
limiting our use of it is our minds and of
(37:50):
the programming we've received that tells us that that's not real,
and we're taught the closest thing we can get to
it is to go to church and do it. The
pastor or the priest says, because they're the expert. And
so we've been really cut off from this whole reality
that people with autism may live their whole reality in
that other place, and so and so that makes it
(38:15):
so that we can contact and be in communication with
people that we're alive at one time on the earth
and are no longer here, so we can get teaching
from them, whether it's physics, other languages, hieroglyphics. We are
able to contact ancestors or you know, like great grandparents
(38:36):
and get the loving teaching from them that they were
not wise enough or aware enough to share while they
were on earth, or perhaps there's just such a separation
with the generations that are here now that they don't
have that contact. There is, of course telepathy, which is
just one small part of what's possible. There is et contact,
(39:02):
but more than that, the spiritual realms, and it's incredible
what these people are experiencing. So what I think what's
interesting about my case is I feel like I'm high
functioning enough to somehow form a bridge between the three
(39:25):
dimensional reality and the autistic reality so that I can
write about my experiences, my perceptions, my take on things,
and hopefully open the minds not only of people who
what we would call normal or normies, but also other
autistics who have diagnosis. Or diagnosis is not always a
(39:49):
good thing because you can get streamed into all these
helping agencies that don't really understand that it's not a defect,
it's not an illusion, it's not anything oken. We are here.
We are here, and we are present. We just can't
communicate or interface the way uh mainstream society requires us to.
(40:14):
But that doesn't mean we're not communicating, and we could communicate.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Right like in how society says you have to communicate
and says how you have to be empathetic and set
you know what I mean like I and also from
what I know from some people on the spectrum also
is that they're not easily bought and sold crap. Does
(40:44):
that make sense because they think of their own.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
First, absolutely, But it's also a curse. Like for instance, me,
growing up, I knew what other people were thinking. Not
all their thoughts, but some of their thoughts. They're stronger thoughts.
So give you an example. When I was in the
room and my mom was flirting with some guy my mom,
that's another story. We won't get into it. And that
(41:11):
guy was having what I would call lascivious intentions towards
my mother. It came across loud and clear to me.
I was absolutely aware that this was going on. When
I tried to tell my mom, she would shame me,
make fun of me, tell me, oh, that's ridiculous, that's
your uncle so and so. He would never do something
(41:33):
like that. I learned to sort of put a cap
on it and shut it down. But now I'm at
an age where I no longer care what people think
of me, and I have given myself permission to be
a much more freer human being. I'm now opening that
back up and realizing if it feels like there's something wrong,
(41:54):
there's something wrong, and just going on my intuition more
and allowing myself my spirit to be free. And I
think it's just.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
There, right, Like the energy, like when people have weird
intentions and they're not good. The energy is very heavy
and you can actually what it's almost like it's a
curtain in the room, and then it's like a big beacon.
(42:24):
So if you are at all any sort of gifted
like intuitionally or even have autism, it's almost like neon
lights going blinking at you.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Right it is. But what I had to do is
to stop gaslighting myself, so because when I would try
to tell other people, I would get gas lit. That
was the way it was for so long. And I
don't want to get into all the details. We'd be
on a six hour show. But I internalize the habit
(43:02):
of gaslighting myself so that when I would get a
warning feeling about somebody, I would go, well, give them
the benefit of the doubt, and you know, maybe I'm
prejudging them, or I don't know where these thoughts are
coming from, but you know, I need to give them
every opportunity to be a kind person. And my kids
(43:23):
used to always tell me, mom, people are not the
way you are. They're not like you. They're just not.
And it took me a long time to figure that out.
Now now that I've start gaslighting myself, oh, I'm a
completely different person. I have really good sales resistance and
I do not get bamboozled anymore, not my politicians or
(43:45):
anybody anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
It's really it's because we were used to getting shamed,
excuse me, and so we would gaslight ourselves to say,
why did you think that? Why would you do that?
Are you crazy? Do you know what I mean? Like,
it's weird kind of things just like that, Just like
(44:10):
in my experience when I was quote unquote forced to
meet this priest and he put his hand out to
shake my hand, and I shook his hand, and I
like immediately went, no, do you know what I mean?
(44:33):
And I kind of had to, you know, at the time,
because it was what I saw and what I felt
was not good, you know, And there was Catholic priest,
so you can imagine exactly what I saw right, So
then you kind of go and then you gaslight. Then
I gaslit my own self to say, why did you
(44:55):
do that? Were you being a bit crazy? You know,
all these different things. So again it's it is what
it is, And now I just don't care, and I
actually prefer not. I just say hi, and I don't
necessarily like to shake their head.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
I'm like that with eye contact. Some autistic people have
trouble with icontact, others do not, But for me, I
feel like it's kind of like soul sharing. It's a
bit feels a bit intimate for me, and if I
don't really know the person or trust them, I don't
want to give them my contact because I don't know.
(45:44):
It makes me feel uncomfortable. And yet I listen much
better when I'm not looking at the person. So I've
trained myself to look at the person because that's what's expected.
Otherwise people think they're not paying attention. But then another
weird thing takes over, And this is the ad ADHD
part of part of my being is I'll look at
(46:06):
someone's face and they're talking to me, and I notice
one eyebrows a little crooked than the other one. And
I'll notice that that.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Their nose is not this or that, and I exactly
or I'll notice, oh and it looks like they color
their hair, and all this analysis chatters going on in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
How am I supposed to pay attention to what they
just said to me? So it's another reason why I
don't like to do eye contact because otherwise I'm analyzing
every little subtle detail and I see it all, you know,
with someone's face, which I thought is kind of strange,
but it's just how I am. It's a karenism that
(46:46):
I gotta deal with.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
On that note, we're gonna go and we're going to
end there on the note of you're right when like,
I have that thing too. I'm looking at people and
I notice every little thing. So if they were to
leave the room and someone would say, can you describe
that person? It totally could like write down like if
(47:10):
they had a necklace, what it looked like like, if
they had spinach in their teeth or whatever. And so
it's one of those weird attention of detailed things, but
it is what it is, and that's that's how it
(47:31):
works for us. Okay. And on that note, we're going
to give more love and spread some love cue everyone.
We'll be back into.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
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Speaker 2 (50:11):
Personal welcome back. You're watching Journey with Joan only on
the Bold Brave TV network and I'm your host, Joan Wynon. Sorry,
just ran to the other book or other room to
grab a book. But here we dive into the depths
of spirituality, self discovery and the connections that shape our lives.
(50:33):
Today we are talking to Karen Holton about her transdimensional
EXO political experience training in autism.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Take a Journey, thank you. So I want to spend
a few minutes just talking about the whole UFO et
autism where that all seems to intersect. So I know
a lot of people don't even believe in ET, they
don't even believe in UFOs, and you know there's much
(51:10):
controversy about all that. But from my perspective being an
experience or of course I believe and I know this
is absolutely true. Now what's coming out more now and
what coincides with my experience is that these beings are transdimensional.
So it is a frequency related thing where they are
(51:34):
someplace else, but it's not measurable in miles or distance.
It's a dimensional somewhere else or a frequency related somewhere else.
And it is my firm belief that autistic individuals, depending
on what your gifts are, are able to also interface
(51:54):
the same as they can with angels and lots of
other beings, as we've talked about in the show so far. Now,
it's interesting to me, and I haven't heard anyone else
say this, that it's interesting that there is such an
uptick in sightings of UFOs and an alien contact and
(52:16):
also in the rise of autism. Now at there's many
reasons for the increase in autism. I think part of
it is the transhumanist agenda, but it's backfired. And so
there are forces on earth, be they human, be they demonic,
(52:36):
I don't know, be they et related, I don't know.
I'm not going to speculate on that, but they have
been trying to turn humans into something else, and it's backfired,
and so it's produced a lot of children who are
extremely what we would classify as disabled. But then again,
(52:58):
it's how you slice and dice it. They would think
of us as being or as normal people as being
disabled because normal people don't have that kind of other
worldly component to their reality. So I think that's part
of it. Part of it, I think is a natural
(53:18):
progression of where we are within cycles, within cycles that
happen in this reality. I think there's also influences from
perhaps intergalactic influences from our son, from other sons. There's
a central son that's sending out a pulse right now
that's elevating people spiritually. It could be some of that,
(53:42):
could be a whole lot of things. Now I have
a concern, and that is what's coming out now, is
there are what we will loosely call the military industrial complex,
and they have people they call them scionic that are
able to communicate with extraterrestrials and bring them into our reality,
(54:08):
and then they're being shot down and they're being stolen
or repurposed or whatever. So there's that going on, and
a lot of these people with psionics are being taken
from other countries where they're so born to war torn
that they're so disadvantaged, they're so impoverished, and they're offered
(54:32):
a better life if they come in and be part
of the psionics movement, where my concern is are these
autistic people that are being exploited? That's my concern. And now,
autistic people are very savvy on what's going on, so
(54:52):
they would be aware of the underlying agenda of the
military industrial complex, and they would not want to comply
because they tend to be very loving, peaceful beings because
they are aware of so much more than what the
average human is aware of. But there are ways of
(55:14):
overriding that, MK, ultra all kinds of other stuff. And
so my concern is these people who are autistic that
are being used to bring in these crafts so they
can be shot with energy weapons and stuff so that
they can be brought down. And they're also kidnapping the
(55:37):
alien pilots, and their life is not very good either,
And so I have a concern, and don't I don't
have facts to base my conclusions on. This is just
what my intuition is telling me that we should be
aware of, and I wanted to share it with your
audience today.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
So what's interesting what you're talking about, because it's you know,
sometimes TV kind of foretells and tells us what is
actually going on, and what you're telling me, it's kind
of like the Netflix show with eleven right and the Underworld.
(56:18):
I can't remember the name of the show, right, you're
you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (56:23):
Right? No? No, are you talking about Are you talking
about Senate?
Speaker 2 (56:29):
No, I'm talking about We're Stranger Christian Yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
She is in the lab and they're using her. They're
hooking her up, right, Bobby Milly Brown who whatever it is,
so she can get her psychic visions or she can
actually go into another world and do their dirty work
and then come back. Yes, but so Karen, before we
(56:59):
run out of ton, tell people where you're at how
they can find you, because you know. And also Karen
is an author. Here's her book. You can get it
on Amazon. It's great read. It is a totally different
read than your other et type books.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Go Jo, Yeah, Transmensional Meet the New Neighbors. It is
available on Amazon and now, fortunately I have had it
for sale long enough that even if you just go
into Google and type Transdimensional Meet the New Neighbors, it'll
take you right to the Amazon bookstore where you can
(57:41):
buy your copy. So I also am a podcaster. I
have two shows a week. I have the Quantum Guide
show every Wednesday at one pm Mountain Time, that's noon
Pacific and three pm Eastern, where I interview people who
are making a different in this world. And it's all
different subjects, very very interesting. It's an absolute privilege to
(58:06):
be able to sit down and have a conversation with
some of the most brilliant minds in the world. I
just love it so much. And we go live so
you can participate in the conversation if you come to
the live. It's also available on all audio podcasts and
as a replay and then n again.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
So the Quantum QATIM Show.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
The Quantum Guide Show with Karen Holton. And the other
thing is I'm on many different platforms including YouTube, and
I'm always under at Karen Holton TV. So if you
type in at Karen Holton TV into say Google, you'll
come up with all tons. You can find me on Instagram,
you can find me on rumble x, Facebook, ib all
(58:52):
over the place. And I have another show on Sunday's
called Aliens and Angels and I either talk about my
book or my own experiences, or I do Q and
a's or I have guests on who have also had
contact either with what we would call e T or
angels or anything within that phenomenon. It's very interesting. Show
(59:17):
us a little bit more informal. I have generally more
time to take comments from the live chat. So again,
if you come and join us where that's noon Mountain time,
eleven am Pacific and two pm Eastern. And again it's
all replayed on all the platforms, and it's also replayed
(59:41):
on all the audio platforms. And if you want to
find me on like an audio platform, you would type
in the Quantum Guide show with Karen Holton and all
my content will come up for you there. And yeah,
and then again I have my book. Mine is a
edit copy, so it's got that band across the front,
(01:00:04):
whereas Jones does not, and your copy when you order
it will not. But anyway, it's available worldwide, Amazon worldwide
and Labor of Love. And it's all about the three
months that I spent with transdimensionally going to aboard the
(01:00:25):
Big Ship, the et beings that I met, the culture,
what we ate, what we did every day, careers, everything,
it's all in there. And so you want a different, yeah,
different slant on the whole et. And my experience was
nothing but positive, nothing but positive, And so I recommend everybody,
(01:00:50):
and in the beginning of that and in the beginning
of that book, I also talk quite a bit about
my paranormal life and the different kinds of contact I've
been able to have through trans dimensional abilities.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Awesome. Thank you Karen so much for joining me tonight.
Unfortunately we have run out of time again. Karen Halton,
thank you for coming. Here's her book, trans Dimensional Meet
the Neighbors Other Way this way, make sure you check
it out. It's also on audible, so if you're not
(01:01:24):
able to read it, you can listen to it while
you drive. I recommend it. It's a great read. It's different.
It's a positive spin on et life. Instead of your
typical abductees and feeling violated, here is more educational where
(01:01:46):
she goes through talks about things on the Mothership and
what they have actually taught her and shown her about
their species. All right, well, thank you very much. I
appreciate you all. Thank you for listening. Your watch Journey
with Joan only on the Bold Brave TV Network until
next time. Embrace What Feels a Soul seven pm, Mountain
(01:02:09):
nine pm Eastern. Good Night.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
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