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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to Journey with Joan, a podcast hosted by Joan Widen,
a medium, waki master, and mind body spirit coach. Join
Joan on a transformative journey as she empowers listeners to
embrace their future, let go of the past, and create
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Journey with Joan, Joan Widen.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Good evening and welcome Welcome to Journey with Joan, only
on the Bold Brave TV. All right, so did everyone
get the song from last week? Signs? Does everyone know
who's saying that we need to give credit? So that's
saying that we're the five man electrical band. All right,
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so ready for today? Here's today? Everywhere I go, everywhere,
Oh no, sorry, let's try this again. Everywhere I go,
every smile I see. I know you are there, smiling
back at me, dancing in the moonlight. I know you
are free because I can see you dancing and I
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can see your star shining down on me. Kind of
messed up the last bit, but okay, so what does
anyone know that song? We're gonna say. I'm gonna tell
you it's miss Jackson, Miss Janet Jackson, right together again.
So on that note, the topic today is on death, dying,
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end mediumship, and I'm going to dedicate this show to
a childhood friend who passed away yesterday. Is it a
coincidence that I had this topic picked out and he
passes away? No, it's not. I honestly believe he. You know,
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he always liked to include me in major events, So again,
why would he exclude me in this? And so again
divine intervention? Somehow I was invited and that happened to
be the day that he passes. So this is too rich.
I know you are free all right? Back to the
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topic here, So what is death and why is it
so obscure and mystical and superstitious? Why do people have
those things? Okay, so, in my opinion, death is when
our physical bodies can no longer survive right and do
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and sustain a life, and therefore our soul has no
home right, so our soul can no longer stay in
the body. Why is it so mysterious? Well, that's because
people don't really know what happens when you die, right there.
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There are few people that have died and come back
and have shared their stories, right, And there are some
people that are, you know, like, what was it, skeptical
because they're not quite sure. They're like, yeah, well, those
guys are all religious. But if you really scaur the
internet and find out and look and see, you know,
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people that died and have come back, you're gonna you're
gonna find that not every single person was religious or
cared about God. Right. I believe there was one that
was an atheist and he completely changed his tune afterwards, right,
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And not that he was saying that there's a heaven,
but he did say there was a different presence and
it was warm, and it was kind, and it was
loving and it was inviting. Right. Okay, So again that's
why you know, a lot everyone is kind of skeptical.
Sometimes we're scared because again fear and the unknown. Right,
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we're always scared of what the unknown is, whether it's
dying or it's public speaking for the first time, because
we don't we've never done it. Right. And then once
you've done the public speaking, well then you can you know,
you go, Okay, that wasn't too bad, right, But with death,
you don't really get that second chance to like potentially
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pass and then come back right. So again that's where
some people, you know, that's where the fear cultivates and
we're unsure and death is so mystical, right, And then
if you look at the Bible, there's I think Lazarus
was raised from the dead, right, And so you have
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all these mysterious things hovering about the subject of death, right.
And then we have some religions where they believe there's
a stepping stone prior to getting to the gates, right
with the pearly gates to heaven. Some believe there is
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a judgment, right. So because I'm Catholic, I can attest
to this that in the Catholic religion and the Catholic faith,
they believe in a purgatory. Is it purgatory? It's where
it's not purgatory, I guess sorry, I can't even think
about what that means at the moment, but there it's
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it's where you're kind of sitting in limbo and you
have to sit there and you do your life review, right,
and then once everyone prays, and I could get that
I could be getting this wrong, but you know, everyone
prays for the soul and then you know, everyone hopes
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that they graduate to heaven. So but for me and
what I've witnessed and experienced is yes, there's a judgment,
but the judgment is based on ours, on us right,
It's based on ourbs, right, our belief systems. Do we
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feel that we are worthy of reaching those gates? Do
we feel we're worthy? And it all comes down to
that why why or are we enough that we can
reach those places? But again, when someone dies and death occurs,
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it is a celebration from what I've seen, and you know,
for those people that can't be there on like at
their loved ones bedside when they pass, a lot of
times they have a lot of shame about that right
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and regret that they weren't able to be by their
side when they passed. But most of the time is
someone could be sitting with that person twenty four to
seven and they decide to go get a coffee and
then the person passes. Well, it really is it was
just meant for you not to be there. They didn't
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want you to be there so they could pass. Okay.
So when there's regret, you just have to let that
go because really it is divine timing and they will
pass when they pass. For example, when my grandpa passed away.
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He actually was diagnosed with cancer and he chose not
to do any treatment plans for it because he felt
he lived his life and he just didn't. He felt
he was too old and he didn't want to fight,
which is fine, which is fair. That was his decision.
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So he went back to the Philippines with my mom.
And my mom was there and you know, all the
doctors kind of told her, you know, he's going to
die soon because he chose not to do any sort
of treatment, so he's going to die too quickly. Well,
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three months later, my mom's like, I don't know, he's
not like I have to go. I have to come
home because I have to go back to my job.
They're not gonna let me stay later, right, So she
comes home and she gets home and she makes the
phone call, Okay, i'm home. I made it home. I'm safe.
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Not even thirty minutes later, the phone rang and it
and it was my aunt in the Philippines that said
he had passed away. And when that happened, right like
when my mom got home, I said, well, it's probably
because you weren't supposed to be there. I feel like
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you weren't supposed to be there and it wasn't. You
had to deal with all the funeral arrangements for your
for your mom, and for your brother. And so now
he your dad wanted your siblings to take care of
him and take care of all the details. So it's
funny how you know, it's fun but it's not right.
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But that's how some spirits work. They go, no, I
want to decide, and I'm going to decide when I go,
And he chose to wait till my mom was home safe,
and he knew she wouldn't be able to come back
to help with the arrangements. So was that a coincidence?
I don't think so. Right, And me walking in and
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hearing about my childhood friend yesterday, and all I knew
was I need to get to the hospital. I had
already felt. I'm like, oh, no, he's not going to
survive whatever this is, and so I'm like, I need
to just get to the hospital and visit. Unbeknownst to me,
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he was in the end stages already and he was
going to pass in within hours. Right, And so again, Richard,
he always liked to include me in everything, And so
was that a coincidence that I found out yesterday and
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that I went, no, I need to get there to
visit and say hello and give him some energy work
too for comfort. No, it wasn't right. He made sure
I was part of that, and for that I'm always
grateful because he always knew how to include me and
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was like, no, no, come Joan, if you want to
come see me, like like even in death when as
he lay there dying, he's like, no, don't, don't, don't
stay behind. You know, I know you can see and
you can see what's going on spiritually like and but no,
if you want to touch me right and give me
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talk to me right beside my body, then come, come, come.
Don't be shy, right, And he was like that when
he was alive. Also I would be shy and some
people are like what how can you be shy? But
I'm shy and and tell others some people then I
can be a little bit crazy. But uh, sometimes I'm like, no,
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I don't want to be in a picture. It's okay,
And there he's like no, no, no, no, don't you have
to actually be part of this, right, And so again
it's all about divine timing and how things work. Death
is mysterious death, you know, feels sometimes it can feel cold, right,
and so distant and abrupt, right, because everything just ends.
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And even though we you know, sometimes like some people go, well,
what's better to know that you're dying or to die suddenly?
And in my opinion, they both are equal. Whether or
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not you knew the person was dying, it just adds
that different stress, right, But when upon the actual death,
it's still the same as someone not knowing, right. The
only difference is if you know about it, you're able
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to spend a little bit more time, but and like
live in the present and do things that you want
to do without having to you know, without a care
kind of thing. However, if you're really that sick, most
of the times that you can spend with the person
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are indoors or they're in a hospital bit like in
a hospital room. Right, So it's not necessarily better because
some people would say that being with their person having fun,
great times and laughing and then they all of a
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sudden get sick and pass suddenly. Some people go, you know,
it's hard and it hurts, but you know what, the
last times that we were together were fucking amazing. They
were great. They helped, you know, like I knew they
were happy. We had a great time. There was no
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what's it called, There was no regrets because we just
we worked hard, we played hard, and yeah, everyone seemed
seemed happy. And that's the way I want to remember them, right.
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Speaker 2 (17:08):
And we're back and you're watching Journey with Joan only
on the bold Grave TV Network. All Right, So, with death,
there's so many questions and a lot of people don't
have answers. But from my experience, and what I've seen,
I'm going to tell you death is super you know,
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it's sad for the living, but for the people that
have passed, I'm going to tell you they are free.
They feel just light. Right, There's so many different things, right,
So on this note, we're going to transition to dying
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because there's so much you know, only so much you
can do about the actual death. But the dying part
is where it is. It hits home for a lot
of us, right, because again we're like, are they going
to make it to heaven? Are they going to do this? Like?
But I'm going to tell you that everyone does. And
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when you're judging yourself, because we all have to sit
there and we have to look at our life and review, right,
And so just because you might have not been the
nicest person, maybe you were grumpy old bat, you know,
and it was because you were lonely and you had
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to sit there and you had to review it. But
you know, the spirits on the other side don't judge you.
They welcome you with open arms. And I'm going to
tell you when I've helped people transition into the light,
it it's the most beautiful thing. Because for example, see
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I don't like there's some sort of bell that went off,
and I have no bells in my office. So okay,
So it's the most beautiful thing because I witness all
these souls coming into the room. And these souls are
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either you know, their parents, but if they're a young person,
it would be their grandparents, right, their great grandparents, you
name it. They are there. It they like, they crowd
the room and they're like in hundreds. Right. So, if
you've ever seen the movie Cocoon, now, this is an
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old movie and at the end, I believe you know,
you see all these light people, right, so you just
see the shadows of the light people, so you know
other people. That's kind of what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They're faceless, but you can tell their tell that they're
joyful and they're full of love, and they just radiate
the love and they want you to come and celebrate
with them. It's like, yeah, another soul is coming home.
Let's celebrate. Right. So when your loved one is dying,
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don't think that it's the end for them. It's the
end for their physical body and their you know, and
their time here on earth. Right, their spiritual cord has
now cut and they are transitioned to the other side, right,
but it is the most beautiful thing. So yesterday when
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my friend was transitioning, you know, he fought tooth and nail.
He did not want to pass. He's like, no, Joan,
You've got to help me. I got to stay. And
I'm like, okay, well, let's let's try this. Even though
I knew that there was no way that he could
actually survive this. It might buy him a day. But
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even then, I was kind of skeptical. I was just like, okay,
I'm like, well, let's try this, you can try this.
I'm like, let's go. Let's let go of the anger.
Start seeing your organ's heel, like, start looking, you know,
start being strong, right, just relax, feel love, just accept love,
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and you know, And for a little bit there, his
stats on the machines improved for a little bit and
then and then he's like, I just he's like, oh,
this is frustrating. Why can't this work? And right, and
it's and I said, well, you know, like your body
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is not like it it's already passing, right, Like it's
hard when your body is already shutting down, right, And
he's like, okay, all right, let's let's try it, so,
you know, we It was interesting because I was talking
to him while he was trying to do this, and
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I could feel that he was getting frustrated. And at
the same time, I'm like, you know, it's okay, right,
you can let go, just be strong, right, Like I
get it that this was super quick, and you don't
you weren't ready for this, I know, like you're only
fifty of course, like you have young you have a
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young son, right, and you have a daughter, right, and
it just isn't this wasn't in the plants, right, And
he just was like, yeah, I know, and it you know,
it was funny, but not at the same I mean
his because his parents are both past and I could
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see him He's like, no, no, no, don't come yet.
I'm not ready to come, Like no, why is why
are you? I don't want you guys to come yet,
like don't And I'm like that there's they're just telling
you that, you know, it's it's inevitable, right, this is
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this is going to happen. Right, So he fought it
for a little bit and then realized okay, right, and
then as he accepted the love and again because it's
part of fear, right, And he's like, I just you know,
I want to make sure everyone's okay. And I'm like, well,
you can make sure everyone's okay by watching over everyone
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all the time, like you, it doesn't have to be
here in the physical it can be on the other
side in the light. And the best thing about that
is you can be with all of them at the
same time. And he's like, oh, okay. So then you know,
it came time and all his family members that had passed,
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all the ones that I knew from when I was
a child, because you know, when we first migrated to Canada,
there were only so many Filipino families in this small
town of Red Deer, Alberta. And my parents were really
close to his parents, right, and they helped us out tremendously, right,
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So you know, this is we I've known him since
we were like two, So it was quite interesting. And
to see all the family members come in and they
were like partying and they're just like, come on, man,
like it's it's time to go. And to see my
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uncle that had passed two years ago, saying dude, just
got just came like this. This is great, right, And
so when the doctor said it's time, you know, start
saying you're goodbyes. I could see my friend come out
and he was hugging everyone and kissing everyone on their
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heads or on their cheek, right, And I said to you,
one of the friends in the room, I'm like, did
you do you feel this? Do you feel the energy here?
And she goes, yeah, I can feel like it feels
like someone's here. And I said, oh, everyone's here, and
there's a lot of people here, right, I said, the
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room dropped in temperature, probably two degrees And I said,
do you feel the breeze? And my friend is like yeah,
And I'm like, look, look at the curtains. There's no
ac because that room was really really hot and there
was no sort of breeze or anything going around. And
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she was just amazed. Right, she goes, oh my god, goodness,
you're right. And it wasn't just like a little like
wave that it was waving quite a bit, right. And
as that was happening, then when you know it, it
was kind of a cloudy day yesterday. The sun was
here there like a little bit, but it was pretty
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you know, gloomy, and the sun started shining into his
room So to me, that's like the gates opening showing, right,
saying hey, we're ready for you. You know again, it's
the party, it's you know, we're here. We're here to
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celebrate you and the life that you led, right, and
it's time to let go. It's time to let go
of all the worldly problems and the worldly bullshit that
we've told ourselves that you know, we weren't good enough
or you know, not worthy enough. Right. But anyways, it
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was the most beautiful thing, and it was the most
emotional thing because you know, I've been there to you know,
transition people to the other side, but as an adult,
this is the first time for a close friend. Right.
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For I've helped transition other people, but they I did
not know them, right, They were clients or someone you know,
like I had social worker call me and say, hey,
would you come and do energy work for this person? Right?
So yeah, So that was that was the experience yesterday afternoon.
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So it was quite right. But I'm going to tell
you everyone everything. Everyone was there, right, and he's talking
to me, and it was great. The other on the
other side there was you know, like with other people
telling me about you know, about dying I'm not like
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some that are like this happened too quickly. I didn't
even know right, Like, can you make sure my kids
aren't fighting? Right? It is just incredible the amount of
information that the dying have because they feel like they
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don't have enough time right to get everything out to
tell you. However, right, they don't need to worry about
that because I'm just like, you need to just slow down.
I can hear you. You don't need to talk fifty
miles an hour, one hundred miles an hour, because even
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if your body passes, I can still hear you. We
can still have this conversation. I can still have a
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Speaker 2 (31:30):
Welcome back. You're watching Journey with Joan only on the
Bowlgrade TV network. All right, so most people ask me
being a medium, death's always kind of around you because
you can see the dead, you can talk to them,
so death must not be a big deal for you. Well,
you know, I am human, and yeah, it's still can
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be very overwhelming. Right, There's a lot of emotions, and
the emotions can be intense. And I'm also an EmPATH.
So when I walk into the room and there's lots
of sadness and despair, I can feel that, right and
for me, like especially yesterday, because they were also close
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to me. Right, that just added extra. It really takes
a toll. It takes a toll on my body. When
I left there, I had a massive headache and I
felt like I was going to throw up, right, because
of all the people that were there and all the
sadness that was around it, right, And so it can
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be you know, even though I'm a medium and I
can see the dead, it is not necessarily easier for me.
Does it give me some closure? It does because I'm
able to you know, converse back and forth. But again,
it's very emotional like and there's anger, right, There's guilt,
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there's frustration, there's sadness, there's just you know, it just
surrounds and it's just fully encompassing and it's it can
be overwhelming, right, So yeah, is it no big deal
to speak to the dead? Absolutely not, It's not a
big deal. But at the same time, you know, it
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can be a little bit daunting. And I honestly don't
think I could ever get used to death and someone
dying because even when they're not related to me, and
it's a a client that just picked me out from
you know, they just happened to find me, which you know,
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again I was meant to help them. So there's still emotion, right,
because it's all about love, and when you feel love
sometimes it just is just you know, so emotional that
it's you you start to cry. Right it again, It's
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just never easy. Dying is never easy. Getting used to dying,
getting used to death is never easy. Right. Is it
easier a little bit for me, a little bit, right,
But it's still hits, right, because there's a lot of
feels on this and it's hard, right, And with people
that I'm not as close to, I can detach a
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little bit. But at the same time, like I told
you before, spirits, they you know, they talk one hundred
miles an hour, and they're they're like, I need you
to say this, I need you say this. Right. I
had that same lady. She's just like, ask my daughter
about this necklace. We need to talk about this necklace.
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A necklace, right, And I said, I think said it.
I think it's like an eighth or or something like that.
And then so the daughter pulls out the necklace and says, yeah,
here it is, and we've you know, like I said, well,
your mom told you not to like wants you to
know not to worry about it, and just it's okay,
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it's yours. I gave it to you. It's for you, right,
And of course the daughter breaks down emotionally and says, yes,
because I wanted to ask her if I still was
worthy to keep it because we had such a big
argument about that necklace. Right, And so there's different things
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where spirits. Right, even though their body is still alive,
they're in between, right, they're in between the light and
the physical world. But they can still I can still
converse with them, and we have settled a lot of
discrepancies and anchor between the person passing to you know,
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the living. And so when they actually passed, then it's
then everyone feels at ease because they're like, Okay, everything
was said, everything was done. People were able to relax
and breathe and go, Okay, everything that needed to be
said was said, and now I can have peace and
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I can honor that, you know, my loved one. And
in this case, my mom can be free and just relax, right,
And I know that she's not mad at me, right,
because a lot of the times that's what we the
living think. We think about the last time, Like if
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we weren't talking to that person for a while and
they suddenly pass, we think, oh my goodness, they hate
me and I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye, right,
And then we carry this guilt, right, But really, when
they transition into the light, they let go of all
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of that. Everything you know changes because it's unconditional love
and it didn't matter because those were earthly things and
it does not follow you into the afterlife. Okay, what's
it called? A lot of people say to me, right,
being a medium, They're like, hey, Joe, do you know
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when someone's gonna die? Yes, now, if I'm at the
mall or I'm I don't know, on an airplane or whatever,
do can I tell who's gonna die when they're no?
Because I'm not looking for that answer, right, So as
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a medium, yes, I get answers when someone's going to pass.
And again you're probably going, what you didn't know your
friend was going to die yesterday? So like, but again,
I am human and Rich was really close to me, right,
And when things are when people are really close to me,
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it kind of clouds what I get to see as
to when they're going to die. I did know he
was going to die, I just didn't realize it was
going to be when I got there, right like shortly
after I got there, right, But again, that was divine
timing and I'm sure he made that happen, so you know,
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so Thelma, short of it, Yes, I know when people
are going to die. Am I going to tell you? No,
I'm not, because there's no relevancy in it. Right So
if you ask me, am I going to die? The
answer is yes, yes you are. And then they'll be like, well,
I know everyone dies. That's not what I'm asking you.
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And I just say, how is this relevant? And I'm
gonna tell you. If I'm gonna tell you you're gonna
die tomorrow, you would be in a huge tizzy and whatever.
And I said, honestly, us not knowing when we're gonna
die is a good thing. We don't need to know.
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And it's gonna go back to I've said previously is
live for today, Live now, be present, fully present in
every minute of every day because all we have is
today right Tomorrow never comes. We're forever chasing it, and
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we forget that. It's all about today and in this moment. Okay,
So when someone asked me, am I gonna die soon?
I do not respond to that. I will not tell
you because there is no relevancy in it. There is
no purpose in it. Right now, If someone asks me,
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hey is my mom gonna die soon, or I'm not
quite sure about someone's health. My answer will be, you know,
you should spend more time with them. I think it
would benefit you from enjoying their presence, right, And you
will find that the things that used to annoy you
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no longer annoy you, and you're gonna have a great
time together. Right. Or if they don't ask me and
I feel like someone around them, like that's really close
is going to pass, I will say, Hey, what about
so and so. You know your dad have you spoken
to him lately? Have you seen him lately? And the
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answer usually I get is like no, but he was
an asshole and like I have no care in the
world for that, right, And I go, Okay, I get that,
I said, but you know what, times have changed, and
you know he might be said in his old ways. Right.
I think it would be beneficial for you to rekindle
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that friendship, that relationship, start to create a bond again
with this person, try and spend some more time with them,
enjoy it, because you never know when someone's going to pass, right,
And I feel like it would be it's time to
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let go of that hurt and it's time for you
to start anew and love every minute with them when
you can, right. And I'm going to tell you some
people come back and say, Joan, I can't you know,
I can't thank you enough for making me go to
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my dad and tell me to swallow my pride and
you know, just start a relationship, because you know what,
we had such a great time and then he passed,
and I feel liberated. I feel okay because I spent
time with him, and in those moments that I spent
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with him, we were able to repair our relationship. We
were able to talk about things that we weren't able
to talk about before, and we were able to settle things.
And now that he's passed, I'm no longer angry at him,
and I just want to thank you, thank you so
much for you know, you didn't tell me that he
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was going to die, but you encouraged me like a
lot to RepA this relationship. And I'm so happy and
grateful for that because you know, now I don't have
to think about being, you know, full of regrets and
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anger because I didn't get to talk to him and
I didn't get to say goodbye. Right, So there's all
these different things, and it's a delicate balance. And when
people ask me, am I going to live long? We
all live long, you know, And what's the definition of long?
Do you want to live till you're one hundred one hundred?
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What is the Guinness bookwork? The oldest person in the
world was one hundred and twenty two. Do you want
to live to one hundred and twenty two or do
you want to live until you're sixty or seventy? Or
what do you want to do? Right? Like, it's all
about perception and all those things, right, So it doesn't
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really matter. And for me to clarify if you're going
to pass away, I just don't see the relevancy of it.
And really it does more harm than good if someone
knows when they're actually going to pass away, because you
would either go into a depression and go, oh my goodness,
I'm going to die. I'm going to die in my thirties. Right.
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I had someone actually come to me and say, you know,
someone told me I was going to die young, and
it's like, what really interesting? And I'm like, I don't
really see that. But with that information, you haven't been
living your life. You've been kind of you know, hanging out,
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feeling sorry for yourself at home. Is that correct? And
they're like yes, And I'm like, well, you need to
get your ass up and you need to start living
and living for today, right, And so that is one
of the main reasons why I will not tell you
if you're going to pass soon, because there's no reason
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for it. And most times people are like, no, if
I knew, I'd go out, I'd spend all this money,
I'd do all the things and blah blah blah blah
blah blah. Right, Like, but I'm gonna tell you, it
has actually the opposite effect, right it Actually some people
go on a deep depression, all right, And so again
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And we're back. You're watching Journey with Joan Only on
the Bold Brave TV Network. All right, so we're talking
about dying, right so and mediumship. So I'm going to
talk to you about why people. Some people come to
me right. So, some people come to me after their
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loved ones have passed. Right. So, a big one is
with suicide. Right and right away, when someone comes to
me and their loved one had died of suicide, it
is very A lot of times the spirit comes and says,
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I'm really sorry. They're very remorseful about having to do that.
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They just felt like it was the only thing that
they knew to say, like, to get rid of this pain,
to get rid of this this feeling of doom and gloom.
Right that was and I realize afterwards that, you know,
maybe if I had asked for help, right, maybe it
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wouldn't have been as bad. But again, they don't really
see that there's any other option except for killing themselves unfortunately, right,
And it doesn't help the living because the living is
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here and they have to pick up the pieces that
are like shattered into a million pieces to try and
figure out why. Why would they want to kill themselves?
Why would they want to leave us? Right? Was I
that horrible of a person for them to go? I
just can't live anymore? Right? And a lot of times,
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I'm going to tell you it has nothing to do
with you. It's never about the living, And it was
all about them because all they could think about, and
it was like it's like tunnel vision. All they can
think about is I can't handle this life. I need
to get out of it. And so they get out
of it. Right. So a lot of times there's the
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closure for some people when it comes to suicide. Now,
there's some suicides which are considered like overdoses, right, and
overdoses are a whole new different ballgame. They when I
give someone a reading and their loved one has passed up,
an overdose I'm going to tell you it is super overwhelming.
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It's like I experience the whole world kind of swirls.
It's it's like being drunk but not, and then in
a split second they realize that they're not in their
body anymore. And that's howdose is typically work. It's it's
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the energy just swirls. It makes me completely dizzy, and
it's it's the weirdest feeling, right, And part of like
how I can kind of describe it is you know,
when you're getting tipsy and like the world kind of
spins a little bit, but it's more extreme than that.
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And so that's how I know for me that they
died of an overdose. Right. So I had one lady.
She was completely distraught and she was full of despair,
and she did not know what was going on with
her family, right with her son, because he had overdosed
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and he's going and she's just like, why I don't
I don't understand. I got him clean, we want to rehab, right,
and he was happy and he was doing it and
what what did I do? Joan? Why why did he
why did he die of an overdose? We were we
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were in the clear. He like didn't have anything for
a year. What was going on? Right? And the first
thing I got right, like, so after I told her
he was an overdose, right, and she said yes, and
that's when she said why right, And so for me
that was I just said, you know, it's really he
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wanted one last hit. I said it. I said, I
know this is not helpful to you, but he actually
said I wanted to celebrate, right, And I celebrated because
what did I do to celebrate before? I would have
one last hit? And he goes, I did not expect
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to die. I was not expecting to die, right. I
wanted to feel that high, just one more time to
celebrate being sober. Now again, that's not like totally the
opposite of what we would want, right and what we
would think, But that's that's how some people think. And
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unfortunately in that instance, he again he actually was not
expecting to pass. He told me that he just happened
to get a bad back. Right. This was shortly, this
was after COVID and he said, you know, before I
knew it, right, I took the hit and I was like,
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this is great. Whatever. Before I knew it, I was
hovering over my body looking at my lifeless body. He goes,
I did not know that I was actually going to pass.
I'm so sorry, mom, Mom? Will you forgive me? This
had nothing to do with you, Mom. It was all
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me and me alone. I want this. Can you forgive me? Right?
And at this time, the mother sitting across to me,
she's like, yeah, absolutely, I forgive you. I just wish,
you know, like you could, like wish you would talk
to me and tell me. And he's like, but I
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visited you in your dreams and so I said that
and she's like yes, and I said, well, that's him
saying hi to you. Right. So again, like there's so
many different questions and answers on how you know why
people do the things they do and why you know,
like drug overdoses are always so sad and they're always hard. Okay,
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I'm gonna quickly do this one because I know we're
out of time. I had someone come to me and
he was in a wheelchair and he wanted confirmation of
what happened to him. Right. So, as I started getting
in this reading, it almost kind of felt like an overdose,
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a little bit of an overdose. And what happened was
he was in a car accident and he goes thrown
from the car, and what I saw was he actually
passed away, but his grandpa, who had been passed already,
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had intervened and placed him beside a tree so he
could be found, right, And so I said that, and
the mom was like just started crying because she's like,
I can't believe it. How do you know this because
my son told me this, but I didn't want to
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believe him. And I'm like, yeah, no, your dad, you know,
like your son actually did die. And at the you know,
your dad said no, you can't die yet and pushed
him back into his body. But the body was also
resting beside a tree, and it looked like he was,
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you know, fine, but unfortunately his body sustained some injuries,
so he was bound to a wheelchair. But that's okay, right,
And the son always said, you know, Grandpa did this.
I know he did, like I know, like I know
he sat me at the tree and everything like this.
And so when I confirmed it, because the son didn't
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say anything, didn't want to say anything, and he's just like,
tell me what happens. So then I when I went
through this store and how everything worked, the mom again,
just like I can't believe and it is just amazing
that a spirit my father would be there for him
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and can intervene. And spirits can intervene, especially when it
isn't your time yet, so they can intervene, but again
it has to be not your specific time right, and
they have to be really strong in themselves to know
that they can do all those things right. Not all
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spirits are as strong as that. You know, we all
learn and when we're on the other side, we still
learn how to do those things right. So everyone they
can intervene. And sometimes when you think, okay, why am
I late? But then you you know you're driving down
that path and there's a car accident, Well that was
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your spirit, like your guides, your angels, the right, your
loved ones intervening saying hey, you forgot something, go back
and get it. No, you need to go back and
get it so that you stay at a harm's way anyway.
So that's stuff to think about. That is what I
get as a medium. We can do more on the
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topic of mediumship and tell you all the different things
that I've experienced and what I've witnessed. And on that note,
we are out of time. Until next time, embrace what
feels the soul. You're watching Journey with Joan and I'm
Joan Widen, your host, Fridays at seven pm Mountain, nine
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pm Eastern.
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