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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to Just Say No, the show
where we spotlight cannabis innovators, game changing products, and the
visionaries driving the legal cannabis movement. I'm your host, Maria Calabrese,
broadcasting on KCAA Radio ten fifty AM, one of six
point five FM, the station that leaves no listener behind. Hey,
(00:34):
the cannabis industry check this out. It's projected to reach
a staggering two hundred billion dollars annually, two hundred billion
each and every year, surpassing the combined revenue of the NFL,
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MLB and NHL. With numbers like that, it's clear cannabis
isn't just in the game, it's changing the playbook. Hey,
everybody ready for Sunday? Super Bowl? Super Bowl Sunday? Okay,
got your bets in Well, Much like the Super Bowl,
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cannabis brings people together, and this year it's making its
mark on one of the biggest events in sports. From
exclusive brand activations and collaborations with NFL legends to infuse
game day condiments, cannabis is officially part of the lineup
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Mink Cannabis. For example, in Arizona, they told me that
they've already received over two hundred Super Bowl pre orders
for infused pizzas, sandwiches, tacos, and sides, some packing up
to a hundred milligrams of THC for recreational consumers. Wow
(01:59):
Wow Wow. Cresco Labs Good news Cannabis. They're spicing up
the Super Bowl celebrations with THC infused buffalo and Asian
barbecue wing sauces. Yes, condiments are back in select states.
Stores and bikel is bringing their Volcano vaporizer. By the way, guys, Wow,
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dry herb vaporizing versus smoking, That will definitely be an episode.
But Stores and Bickel has one of the best dry
herb vaporizers, desktop and portable, But the Volcano vaporizer. They're
bringing it to Bourbon Street for an activation at the
Sports Illustrated party at Mardi Gras World, where if you're
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lucky enough to be going to that, you can take
Delta nine flower hits just steps away from the Super
Bowl kickoff. But let's face it, cannabis still raises a
lot of questions. Are hamp and marijuana the same? Will
CBD get me high? Can I get the benefits without smoking?
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We'll interfere with my meds. Where do I even start.
So why not ask the pros who are putting cannabis
into their playbooks. Today, I'm bringing you exclusive insights from
former NBA stars Al Harrington and John Sally, former NFL
pros Matt Lugren and Nick Moody, and the cannabis Yogi
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Eliza Moroni. So sit back, relax, and let's dive into
how sports are reshaping the cannabis world, one game changing
move at a time.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrill Lynch estimate
that will grow to thirty five billion dollars, and many
experts believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars
each and every year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I just wanted.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I want to see what up his sky. Let me
you know I can see so much, Father.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yon Morosa, Ym Moroser.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'm a butterfly who is gonna be gone. Taking me
a while to get it. Had to live and cry
to appreciate life and what you give. His words when
you're holding me here, when you hold me so close,
someone bettering under your skin. Want to leave a mark
so that I can be sure that you remember words.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Man sees.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And we've seen cannabis make its way into mainstream sports culture,
but for many professional athletes, it's more than just a trend.
It's a necessity. Injuries, chronic pain, and post career health
struggles have led many former pros to turn to cannabis
not only for personal relief, but as a business opportunity
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to help others. A few years ago, at the State
of Cannabis conference on the historic Queen Mary in Long Beach, California,
I attended a panel of athletes who are now industry
leaders at the front lines of the legal cannabis movement.
Al Harrington, former NBA player and founder of Viola, a
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premium cannabis brand dedicated to social equity and top shelf products.
He was among the panel. Matt Nordgren, former backup quarterback
and managing partner at Arcadian Capital. He started a fund
investing in entrepreneurs shaping the future of cannabis. I like
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this fund because Arcadian believes that wellness enables wealth when
we unlock our full physical, mental, and social wellbeing potential.
Eliza Maroney, the cannabis yogi and founder of benden Blaze Yoga,
also attended. Benden Blaze focuses on how cannabis combined with
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yoga can enhance performance and help heal after post workout recovery.
Morony is also the founder of the Lucky Box Club,
a premier California cannabis delivery service, and Nick Moody, former
NFL player turned cannabis entrepreneur, now runs the cultivation and
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manufacturing operation. Moody knows the struggle firsthand. As a former
San Francisco for forty nine Ers Go forty nine Ers linebacker,
he played through injuries battling the NFL's drug policies as
much as the opposing team's running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks,
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and offensive linemen each out to block, guard and tackle.
For him, cannabis wasn't a crutch, it was a tool.
It helped with focus, pain management, and post game recovery.
But while the league turned a blind eye to opioid culture,
came down hard on THC, slapping players with fine suspensions
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and constant surveillance. Moody's experience isn't unique many former pros,
beyond those participating on the panel that I attended, they're
speaking out. They're speaking about about the unspeaking out about
the unfair policies and double standards in sports. Let's have
a listen to an excerpt from the panel is each
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shared why they made the lead from sports to cannabis entrepreneurship,
why they believe athlete to deserve access to cannabis for
recovery and wellness.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
All right, so welcome to our pro Athletes and Cannabis panel.
This is also for anybody that's an athlete, whether you're
eighty years old and you go for a walk in
the evening, if you're a runner, you like to swim, whatever,
anybody can use cannabis within athletics. So we're quite lucky
to have these high end professional athletes up here with us.
I'm going to start off by letting our panelists, starting
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with Al here, introduce themselves.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Well, how you doing. My name is Al Harrington, former
NBA player. I played seventeen years professional basketball from ours,
New Jersey now RAZI here in Los Angeles. So the
war on drugs was really real where I grew up.
I either seen people getting locked up or I was
always taught to believe that cannabis or marijuana at the
time or ref for how people used to talk about
it where I'm from was a gateway drug. So throughout
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my whole life, especially me going to the NBA out
of high school. I was always afraid of cannabis, and
when I got into NBA, that was the first time
that I saw actually, like you know, top notch players
actually using cannabis. But at the time, I still didn't
understand it. It still didn't make sense to me, and I
looked down on my teammates that used cannabis. But in
twenty eleven, my grandmother had come to see me play
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when I was playing for the Denver Nuggets, and Denver
is obviously one of the first markets to you know,
have medical program, and she suffered from glaucoma, and you know,
glacoma was always the first, you know, thing that cannabis
was something that considered to heal. So I was able
to convince her to try cannabis. And it was hard
because you know, she was the main person growing up
telling us that we was a was a gateway drug.
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And when I was able to get her to try it,
you know, I checked on an hour and a half
later and I went downstairs. She was downstairs reading her Bible,
and you know, and I asked her how she was doing.
She said, I'm healed. She said, it's the first time
I've be able to read my Bible went over three
and a half years, and for me, that correlation was
just crazy that you know, from someone like her. And
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I always say like, if my grandmother's not going to heaven,
we're all going to hell. And you know, for the
first thing that she would do would actually go down
and read her Bible, you know, just spokes volumes to me.
And at that point I started to educate myself. The
end of that season, I actually had a knee surgery
and got a staff infection. I was in the hospital
for you know, ten days. I have, you know, four
surgeries in a week. At some point I thought I
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was going to die. But when I was sitting in there,
obviously I'm taking all this pain medication, and this lady
that I had knew in Colorado came to see me
and she introduced me to CBD and she gave me
all the topicals. She gave me ten Chuirs capsules, and
you know, ever since that day, I haven't taken an
as friend, I haven't taken an advil. I haven't taken
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any pharmaceutical drugs to manage my pain away from the game,
and uh, you know, pretty much that's my story and
that's why I'm here.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
My name is Matt Norgren. I run a fun call Arcadian.
We do a lot of investing in the industry. I've
been doing that for years, have been very successful at it.
Also was a former athlete. I was a backup quarterback
my whole career. Didn't have to use a lot of
it for pain, but was around a lot of guys
that did for a long time and really saw a
lot of benefit that it did give a lot of athletes.
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In my own personal story, my grandmother had all his
timers were able to help her quality of life at
the end of her life. Had a couple of cousins
with cancer, was able to help a quality of their
life at the end of their life. All three of
past and so it feels really good to be in
an industry that you can do good business and feel
good about the business that you're doing every day.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Hi everyone, my name is Eliza Moroni. I am the
co founder of Lucky Box Club, a cannabis subscription service
here in California, and I'm also known as the Cannabis Yogi.
So I've launched a brand that infuses yoga classes with
cannabis in various different ways. Every attendee seeves a lucky
box one of our boxes, and they get to learn
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about new brands and products in the process before, during,
and after their classes. It gives people a really warm,
intimate space to experiment with new products and to learn
about the different ways of using cannabis and CBD as well.
We have CBD only boxes. And I am in this
because I, just like everyone else I think in this room,
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have been profoundly moved by this amazing, incredible plant in
many different ways. So my history does stem back to
being a cultivator and going from cultivation into retail and
really understanding the entire plant process. And I'm really proud
of that. I am not a professional athlete. I'm the
only one on this stage right now, but I do
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have a lot of insight in how cannabis can enhance
performance and it can also help people to heal after
post workout and games, I would imagine, So thank you,
Nick Moody.
Speaker 10 (12:57):
I actually recently just retired, and then primarily is why
I'm here and focused on this industry. I played for
the forty nine ers, That's who drafted me. Kind of
my introduction to the industry firsthand, and then then the
Seahawks and the right students. We got a company started
a couple of years ago, initially my dad and a
couple of partners. We're switching over from a grow to
a manufacturing facility. So that's what our primary focus is
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right now. And the reason I'm really big on marijuana
is just not just me as my family, we as
a whole. We believe like in the benefits of it,
not just physically, but for like your mental well being.
And with my history on football is me and I
played linebacker and free safety at Florida State and then
in the league, so I've had plenty of injuries, dislocated shoulders,
broken bones, concussions, disk issues, arthritis, so I've had pretty
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much just about anything you can imagine. So my thing
is like the benefits of the just the plan itself.
Them wanting to restrict us from being able to use
it and prescribe as opiates, that's a big contradiction in
my opinion, And that's what I'm kind of getting into
more so now is the advocacy for that and that
and the wellness and the THAC and the CBD as well.
Speaker 11 (14:00):
So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I wanted to say, it must feel good to be
able to come out of the closet of cannabis and
not have the NFL breathing down your neck.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
That was huge because personally from my experience, I was
a guy that was actually in the drug program. So
I got put in there for two years, and I
put in there, well, I failed the test, and then
I was placed in there. I was tested twice a
week every week, so up to eight times a month.
They would come six in the morning, three in the
afternoon Saturday mornings, ask you where you are. You got
to give them a log of your travel. So I
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actually had family members and friends that have actually been
on probation and they had less restrictions than I did.
But just being in that process and seeing other guys
go through that process, and then you actually kind of
really realize how much cannabis does help you in terms
of your injury and the stress and like dealing with
the stress of being a pro athlete, the family demands
and all that stuff. And then when you had that
taken from you, when you're somebody actually relies on that,
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you don't even realize you rely on it, but it
does really help you. You kind of see like the
negative outcome of that. Sometimes you'll be in certain situations
and we wouldn't even have been in that when if
you were allowed to still be able to use cannabis.
I've seen different guys getting the situations when they're in
the jour program where they start doing things they would
never they normally do, and they were just like completely
different people. And honestly, I think that with the NFL program,
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they kind of do more detriment than they do good
when they restrict us and then try to tell you
what to do and this is how you need to act,
and you got to follow these rules, and you can't
act like everybody else, even though you're know a person,
but you got to act this certain way. Meanwhile, some
of the guys that give right in the checks, they
do some of the wildest stuff you can imagine.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Let's give them a huge round of applause for being branded.
They're at the front lines of this movement. And so
these guys that are gonna help us.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Legalize that, Yeah, they're at the front lines and they
all share a common mission to change the conversation and
make cannabis successible for athletes. Who need it. Conversation around
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cannabis and professional sports. It's evolving, but some say not
fast enough. Athletes put their bodies on the line, facing pain, injuries,
and long term health consequences, yet they're there are still
pushed toward opioids, anti inflammatories, and other pharmaceuticals while being
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penalized for choosing a natural alternative. I'm happy to say
since that panel four years ago, major professional sports leagues
in the US have significantly updated their cannabis policies. Cannabis
it's becoming well as mainstream as condiments in your favorite
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Super Bowl food. The NBA, in the lightest seven year
collective bargaining agreement that became effective in July twenty twenty three,
the NBA removedana from its list of banned substances. Yay
players are no longer subjected to random cannabis testing, and
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they're permitted to invest in cannabis related businesses now. The
NFL has relaxed its cannabis policies by increasing the THC
threshold for a positive test. Last I heard, it was
decreased from one hundred and fifty to three hundred and
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fifty nanograms per mil leader players are no longer suspended
solely for positive cannabis tests, and instead fines are imposed
as with amounts decreasing for subsequent violations. The NHL continues
to test for cannabis BOO, but it is not classified
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as a banned substance, which is a big AA. Players
who test positive are not penalized, but maybe offered entry
into the league's Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health program if
THC levels are notably high. Participation in that program is
purely voluntary. You know. These changes reflect a growing acceptance
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of cannabis and professional sports acknowledging its potential benefits for
player health and well being. So Super Bowl Sunday, it's coming,
and I have a little Super Bowl in cannabis trivia?
Are you ready? Who knows? Did you know that legendary
NFL coach Bill Belichick once drafted a player who openly
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admitted to smoking weed before every game in college? Do
you know who that was? Think about it? That player
was Ricky Williams, the Heisman winning running back who later
became one of the most outspoken adverse kids for one
of the most outspoken advocates for cannabis in professional sports. Williams,
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who was suspended multiple times for cannabis use in the NFL.
He eventually left football to study holistic medicine. He later
co founded Heisman, a cannabis lifestyle brand for athletes, proving
that cannabis and sports do not have to be at odds.
They can be a game changer for recovery and wellness.
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Fun fact, the NFL stance on cannabis has evolved since
Ricky's playing days. As of twenty twenty one, players no
longer face suspensions for positive THHC tests, and the threshold
for a positive test was raised fourfold. Progress Right, Well,
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you know what it is. Twenty minutes into the show,
and twenty minutes into the show where we're coming to
you from means we're coming up on four to twenty
ozho clock in Low Melinda, California, and that means it's
time for today's quick hit. Today we're shining a spotlight
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on the science. Doctor David Bharman, one of the leading
voices in cannabinoid medicine. His book, The History of Cannabis's
Medicine takes readers on a deep dive into the plant's
long standing role in healing throughout history and now let's
get smarter with today's quickt by doctor David Bharman himself
in this exclusive quick hit clip.
Speaker 12 (20:48):
Things are changing in the cannabis space, but what we've
experienced are more individuals, especially our seniors, coming to us
for different types of disorder and wanting to know more
about cannabinoid therapy and the work that we do. We've
been blessed to have doctor David Bharman as our Director
of Medicine, who has an extensive history in cannabis as
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medicine as well as the history of cannabis.
Speaker 13 (21:15):
This is a five hundred page book that frames cannabis
in the history of the use of psychoactive drugs or
spirituality for healing, for commerce, and the drug policy we
have used to marginalize discriminated against people ever since Hope
Inoson the sixth declared that cannabis was a tool of
the devil in the fifteenth century, and he did that
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because it helped believe the pain of childbirths from women,
and we know that they have that pain because of
eve sin. The list goes on and on about the
way in which we in this country as well as
around the world, have used drug policy to marginalize people.
And then the last third of this book really talks
about cannabis in contemporary times and its use as a medicine.
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And the last chapter talks about if we were really
serious about doing something about substance abuse, what we would do.
This is a new book that's going to be coming
out October twenty eighteen that is started design for nurses
and doctors, and I hope it'll be used as a textbook,
and it covers a lot of the science related to cannabis,
cannabinoids in the endocannabinoid system. It's got a lot of
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science in it, but most of it is readable and understandable.
The American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine is there to certify
those cannabinoid medicine specialists to a practicing good quality medicine.
We want to marginalize those doctors like the doc in
Venice Beach who has the gallon the bikini out in
the front. Saine evaluation is thirty nine to ninety five.
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Cannabis is a real medicine. It deserves more respective.
Speaker 12 (22:45):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 14 (22:46):
If you read the doctor's book, he gave me a
copy last year. It's one of the most definitive sources
on history. I didn't know cannabis had people vilifying it.
I thought that started with with for madness in the thirties.
I didn't know why all the way back.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And well, now, for any of the viewers that want
to buy your book, is it available online for churchase?
Speaker 13 (23:07):
You could get it on Amazon, And I really appreciate
you give me the opportunity to bring these to the attention.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Of your audience.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's right, cannabis is a medicine. Well, stay tuned because
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Green Welcome back. You're listening to Just Say No on
CASEAA Radios ten fifty AM one oh six point five FM.
I'm your host, Maria Calabrese, and I have to say
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before the commercial break, I teased an exclusive interview I
had with John Sally and it's it's it's time to
dive into the game changing conversation around cannabis and professional sports.
Sally played for the Detroit Pistons from nineteen eighty six
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to nineteen ninety two, Miami Heat ninety two to ninety five,
the Toronto Raptors ninety five and ninety six, the Chicago
Bills in ninety six, and yes, the LA Lakers in
nineteen ninety nine and two thousand. He won NBA Championships
with three different teams, the Detroit Pistons in eighty nine
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and ninety Chicago Bulls in ninety six and the Los
Angeles Lakers in two thousand, making him the first player
in NBA history to win titles with three different franchises.
Well late is over. John is not only a four
time NBA champion, but also a passionate advocate for plant
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based wellness. It caught up with him in Los Angeles
at a HEMP conference held at the Los Angeles Trade
Technical College, which he supports, and he shared why he
turned to cannabis for well being and how it led
him to launch his own brand, dus Is twenty two.
All right, let's get on with this exclusive Greenbee Life
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TV interview with HEMP advocate and host Rego.
Speaker 18 (27:00):
This is Rico with green Bee Life and I'm here
with Anthony Macfeeders and John Sally. We're just finishing event
at the LA Trade Tech with the Industrial Hemp Alliance.
I'm gonna hand it off to Anthony to tell you
more about HEMP Pathways.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Well, we're launching a Pathway series and the into Los
Angeles Trade Tech and we'll we're doing his career focus,
so we want to focus implementing HEMP in everyone's career.
Here trying to create entrepreneurs. We have nine pathways here
at trade Tech, so we're trying to implement hamping every
one of them. Also have nine sister colleges, and we're
going to implement hamping those pathways as well.
Speaker 18 (27:27):
Explain to me how are you involved with the hemp industry.
Speaker 19 (27:29):
I have a cannabis company with my daughter called Deuces
twenty two. She's CEO with pre rolls and gummies and
the sister Plant. I'm going to say to the hemp plant.
I literally am involved with a hemp grow in California.
I am a part of Hemp Week and I own
all American hemp company. When I met Anthony at Stuff
I Eat in Inglewood, he was at a vegan restaurant,
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happy to see you there. He's living a lifestyle from
what he puts in his body to what he puts
on his body to what he puts out in the world.
Speaker 11 (27:58):
So I had to come check it out.
Speaker 18 (27:59):
So I was really interesting saying, you guys, met at where.
Speaker 19 (28:02):
Vegan raw restaurant called Stuff I Eat. It's on Market
Street in Inglewood. It was there since two thousand and eight,
before the vegan craze took a hold of America. They
were already ten years ahead of themselves. I like being
around that. I drive all the way to Inglewood to eat.
I live out in the valley. I go in to
support the community.
Speaker 18 (28:18):
It's a pretty far drive.
Speaker 19 (28:19):
Got electric car, so I'm not really wasting anything.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 18 (28:24):
You are very involved in the industry.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Do you partake?
Speaker 11 (28:28):
I'm about to.
Speaker 19 (28:29):
I was waiting too long for this interview, is why
it's such a straight interview.
Speaker 18 (28:35):
No, I do.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
I believe so.
Speaker 19 (28:38):
The history is I played in the NBA and for
a long time, and not until my fifteenth year and
a month before I retired that I smoked cannabis, and
I don't ever remember feeling that good except for winning
a championship. And if I would have been smoking my
entire career one, I probably have less children, i would
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have way more money saved, and I'd probably still be playing.
Because it's an amazing plant. I am investigating and finding
a thousand ways of dealing with it. There's two hundred
ways of dealing with it in HEMP and just on
that form. On the medical side, what it does in
the CBD and cbgs and cv E s all kinds
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of w X Y z's in the letters, this plant
is involved with and the fact that we're out of
prohibition or heading out of prohibition is a good thing.
So encompassing it all is what I plan on doing.
Speaker 18 (29:36):
That sounds perfect. And you compared it to winning a championship.
That's pretty that's pretty good.
Speaker 19 (29:41):
If you ever smoke the weed we're about to put
out on deuces, you would be winning a championship.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
That's what it feels to be a champion.
Speaker 18 (29:49):
That sounds like a slogan to me.
Speaker 19 (29:50):
It sounds like marketing one hundred day.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
They're trying to do hemp pathways.
Speaker 18 (29:59):
You're trying to get more people to get in this
industry and educate them because as we were listening, there's
a lack of education. Would you be interested in, I
don't know, having interns at some point in time in
the future from any of these trade tags that are
educating people on hemp and cannabis and how to process
and manufacture and so.
Speaker 19 (30:17):
On and so with Anthony we had that conversation. But
I'm a capitalist, I'm an American, so you first have
to put it. And the reason I say that is
usually people don't pay attention to anybody unless they've already
done it, unless they have enough money to make a
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mistake doing again. So when you're starting from the same
level and we're gonna bubble up, that's one way of
doing it. But if you want people involve, you have
to be it. Jay Z wasn't just another rapper. He
was a rapper that made it. Then now when he speaks,
it has some validity to it. If he was just
another rapper, we heard the rhetoric before, but until he's
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gone out, did it come back and teach it. That's
when people pay respect. Plus, people pay respect when it
costs something. When it doesn't cost anything, it usually has
no value to him or it's bad for him, Like
government cheese.
Speaker 11 (31:18):
That's free all day and that's no good.
Speaker 18 (31:20):
For you government cheese. All right, Anthony, how do you
see these HEMP pathways leading the future for trade techs
and well La And you said he had nine sister campuses,
So how do you see HEMP as people around to
get on into the cannabis industry because it's a growing market,
one hundreds of thousands of potential jobs in the very
near future. Can LA trade tech be the epicenter of well,
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the education of this New Boom.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
The reason why we chose to go into industrial hemp
rather than marijuana or anything like that, we felt that
market was oversaturated. We felt that this was a market
that we can jump right in and you know, take
and just grab it and go. We believe Trade TICH
would be a great candidate because we do everything industry
of all trades here. We have nine trades here, so
we can implement hamp in all those trades. And then
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the other sister colleges like Pierce College has agriculture, LACC
has journalism, all types of things. We can implement hampen
And that's what we saw. We saw the future in that.
Speaker 18 (32:18):
So how big do you think the future is?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
The future? I mean it's gonna be like some George
jets and flying cards on hemp ethanol type stuff. You know,
that's what we're looking at. You know what I'm saying.
We're trying to set the standards of this hemp game.
That's what we want to do.
Speaker 18 (32:33):
That'll be dope, that would be dope.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
That would be literally dope.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 18 (32:41):
You guys met at a vegan restaurants, which is amazing.
I'm a vegetarian, so I give props to both of
you guys, because it's pretty tough out there to like remain.
Speaker 11 (32:50):
Well.
Speaker 18 (32:52):
It can't be tough. It's not tough for you, but
tough for me.
Speaker 11 (32:57):
All right.
Speaker 18 (32:57):
So you guys are obviously into the sustain nobility mindset.
You see that this world could be better.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Why should people give a hemp?
Speaker 18 (33:06):
Why do you give a hemp?
Speaker 19 (33:08):
The reason I'm vegan is because I am conscious. You
really talk to people who aren't awake. They don't see it.
I stop wasting my breath on the sleeping. As a
conscious person, you have to realize that factory firement is
destroying lives. The mentality is when you're a kid, they
show you all these books on how you love the animals,
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and the animals talk, Charlotte's Web, everything, all movies, but
then they feed you chicken right after it, or they
feed you A pig is smarter than a dog, Like,
if you're going to have a house bet, it should
be a pig. To be honest. One, people don't run
up on it. It alerts you that something's going on.
It's a smart animal. But people decide to eat it.
And I think it's crazy that they distinguish cats dogs,
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certain birds, certain fish get to live, but all the
rest are made.
Speaker 11 (33:56):
For us to live. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 19 (33:58):
The other part is if you don't change your mentality
by eating, not only are destroying lives, you're destroying your life.
The body is a fiber consuming mammal. We are not
supposed to be eating dead, decayning caucus, or eating the
mental shyico of a chicken, or eating the testicles of
bulls and cows. And it just doesn't make any sense
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that those are things that we decided. It's food, and
being a person of African descent, we in my community
are a community of people that look like me. We
still eat slave food, so we're still enslaved mentally, one
by the food we eat and two by the way
we were taught. So it's everybody has to make an
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impression on this planet.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
My impressant is to.
Speaker 19 (34:45):
Have the least footprint that I can leave when I leave,
and these are some big feet. But I decided to
drive a green car, being electric. I like the hemp
ethanol mentality For those who still want to have cars
that deal with liquid and fumes, I'm literally trying to breathe.
I was in China, last year, and I didn't see
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the sun one time, and I was in a very
nice place. But they are in a country like China
making it a country wide mentality to get.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
Rid of the smog. So they're going electric.
Speaker 19 (35:17):
You heard no scooters, You still hel cars, but then
pretty soon you heal no cars, and then they'll be
able to see the sky. So it's a country behind that.
They can call it communists, socialists, whatever, but the fact
that the government has even noticed problems with it and
how to try to get around it is an impressive thing.
So personally, eating vegan means I care about myself, and
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to care about myself mean I care about the planet
and the next thing. So I don't think anything has
to die for me to live. I'm obviously living well.
It shows in my body and it shows in my mind.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome for sure.
Speaker 18 (35:52):
And I'm gonna ask the same question to you, man,
why should people give a hmp.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Man, you should give a hint because you know the
future relies on it. You know, we're killing our planet
or you know, taking all the oil or taking all
the natural resources. Right now, we can't even use straws
in California, because you know, and that all can be
changed to hemp straw we can do we can do
him biodegrad but plastics, we knew anything with him, and
so I feel that, you know, if you still I
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know for myself, you know, I want a straw. I
don't want to put my lips on nobody glass in
the restaurant. That's just me. So you know, taking that
luxury away because you know it's killing the environment, and
why why not you know, step intore and step into
that product and put it in in there. That's for sure.
Speaker 18 (36:35):
I've had that idea of making hamp straws a little
bit harder than than it looks like, but near future
very possible, very possible.
Speaker 13 (36:43):
You know.
Speaker 19 (36:43):
What you can also do is have your own straw
so you can come. They sell them on Amazon. I
don't mean to advertise for Amazon, but we all are
and you can literally they literally fold up.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
It's pretty slick.
Speaker 19 (36:58):
I got one in the car and I carry my
own bottle of water. I drink the stilled water. Listen,
you you're a vegetarian. That means you like eggs and cheese,
so you're a flesh.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
Eater to agree, right.
Speaker 19 (37:15):
So casein is the number one course of cancer is
in cheese. Cholesterol. One hundred percent cholesterol is in eggs.
So you're giving yourself high cholesterol and cancer cells. Why
would you do that. I'm in milk, more protein, better
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for you, more feeling. No animals had to die flaxeied
eggs beyond follow your hard eggs. If you want that
funk smell, you can get it. You can get it
there and it would scramble. The deal is, it's it's
really hard to not care about somebody when you're when
you're a loving human being, it's really hard to not
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care about other people. It's not hard to eat well
and care about other people. So and the benefit is,
I just turned fifty five and I'm the same body
weight that I was when I was twenty five, with
the same libido and sex drive, which most guys can't say,
you go to Vegas right now. They're buying Viagara at
thirty five years old. So it's like this helps you
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and your woman or your other mate, whatever it may be.
This helps in all of the ways possible, keeps your
confidence going. You are able to leave and realize a
wonderful thing you've done for the planet. If you ever
look at a baby calf you go, oh sweet, or
you look at a little sheet you go well. But
the funny thing is they don't care about it when
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it gets to a certain age. It's just like certain
parts of the government when they talk about pro life
and pro choice. The truth about it is they want
you at an age where they can use you. They're
not really pro life. They're not really caring about abortion.
They're not They're caring about are we going to have
somebody to make if we keep having abortion, We're not
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going to have enough people paying taxes to pay for this,
and we need them for soldiers, male and female, gay
and straight.
Speaker 11 (39:15):
That tells you that they only want it for that.
Speaker 19 (39:19):
So when you deal with that pro life, if you
really about pro life, you'll be about pro life like
not just.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
Humans, because we're earthlings.
Speaker 19 (39:28):
Everything on the planet deserves a right to be here,
and everything on the planet adds to that ecosystem. You
go out and see a whole bunch of cow down
and you be like, man, the cowd's going crazy. That's
called fertilizer, right, So you see you get a whole
bunch of goats and you go, man, I don't feel
like cutting the grass today. Just let your coat go out,
come back, have no grass. So everybody does what they
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do as a human being, the one who can make
things because we got five fingers and thumbs and we
can speak in different languages just like animals, but we
can make things. Well, it means we're not smarter, just
we have more ingenuity, but doesn't mean they should die.
Speaker 18 (40:05):
There's been a different kind of mentality going on recently.
There's people I've been switching more to vegetarian vegan lifestyles
because they're more aware. This awareness that we're all collectively creating.
It's going on to different like places.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
One of them is hemp.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
It was made ill legal.
Speaker 18 (40:23):
We went from complete prohibition to now we want to
use it for fifty thousand different products. When do you
see hemp actually becoming widespread acceptance of hemp?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Well, I think the time is now. It's crucial, you know,
and it's about educating you, yourself and the people around you.
For example, veganism. I got my crew right here, they
keep me. I got a thing I called do it
for Alley. When I was like I'll be wanting to
do something, I'll be wanting the litter. I'm gonna do
this for Allei, Man, I'm not gonna do it, and
you know, because you know they helped me out, you know,
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with all everything I need to do to be sustainable
myself and as far as hem, you know, like he's
like John said, Man, we want people to be alive.
You know, there's so many aspects of this of this product,
for example, hemp crete. Man, you can have a breathable
wall that filters every all the air that in your house.
You know, you don't have any allergy. You know, we're
in La a very toxic place that the air here
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is horrible, So you want that filtered out of your
house and become your true safe place there so you
can just you know, implement. There's so many benefits that
we just have to take advantage of it, especially eating him.
You got all your o magas, all your proteins, and
it's just amazing.
Speaker 18 (41:30):
How long is it gonna take for the rest of
the country to wake up? Because there's still a lot
of stigma towards this plant. A lot of people don't
even know what it does or the benefits, and they're
scared of it because it might get you a little high.
So when do you think the country as a whole
is gonna get over this stigma?
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Every day I think we gain a little bit. So
you do everything, you walk in the ways you preach,
and eventually it's gonna just take over. You know, it's
gonna be a hemp revolution.
Speaker 18 (41:55):
When do you think this stigma is gonna go away?
Because you've been here for longer, you've been in the industry,
you're in the industry.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Are things getting easier? Are things getting harder? What do
you feel about that?
Speaker 19 (42:07):
Well, the h hemp plant cannot get you high. The
cannabis plant can get you high. The hemp plant cannot
get you high. There's no thac in a hemp plant,
especially the way they're breaking it down.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
Now there's like I said, it's a sister plant. Two.
Speaker 19 (42:23):
They spent so much money, eighteen hundreds on pushing hemp away,
so we got a hundred years of propaganda to knock down.
I tell people, in nineteen nineteen, prohibition was over, and
to this day, people still think, I'm gonna take a drink,
It's gonna calm my nerves.
Speaker 11 (42:44):
Like you hear people.
Speaker 19 (42:45):
Say that, but they don't know why they say that.
They think the drink is calming their nerves when it's
really just deadening in brain cells. If you smoke cannabis,
it enhances your body and enhances brain cells, but they
used to say it killed brains. Right, So the teaching
of it and making it as normal or as acceptable
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as possible something that we do in the everyday deal.
It's going to be years and years. It took a
long time for people to get over, like separating drinking
fountains and restaurants. I mean, that's this is not not
not sixty years ago. Matter of fact, just sixty years
ago are closed right so to this day. So it's
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it's it takes time to the fact that he and I,
people of color of African descent, are sitting up here
doing an interview at trade Tech is an amazing thing.
So you know, I don't discount it because I've seen
when it wasn't. I have daughters who I don't not
say take for granted they supposed to. They take it
as that the way it's supposed to be right and wrong,
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not black and white. So I think in this world
of him, one we have to change him. In ten
is about eighty six percent of the people in jail
for marijuana or happen to be of color. We also
have to change what happens when you get cited for
having cannabis now, which is also changed, And we have
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to take away the feeling that stoners are not successful.
I prove that to be totally false.
Speaker 18 (44:20):
All right, So we're talking a lot about sustainability and
awareness and such. There's a lot of companies in the
CBD and hemp market at this point in time that
are kind of sketchy. They're not doing it the right way.
They are wasting a lot. There's pesticide, and there's stuff
they're not supposed to be using. How do you start
a hemp company and make it sustainable so that it's
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good for the environment and good for your economy.
Speaker 19 (44:46):
The best thing about hemp is what it can be
toxic ground. And when you put hemp into the toxic ground,
it literally it literally cleans and it makes the soil healthy.
That's a great thing about this plant. The company I
work with, pure Crop One, we have a spray that
literally does not kill insects. It's not a pesticide of herbicide,
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it's an enhancement. It literally canvinces the plant to vibrate
at a higher level. So when you're talking about plants,
greens vibrate let's say here and then fruits here. Fruit
are the highest vibrating plants. So like between eleven and two.
I always tell people to eat because that's when you're hybrading,
you're vibrating at your highest level, and so is fruit constantly.
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So if I spray it on and I get the
plant to vibrate at a higher level, insects won't eat
it because they believe in the idea of the law
of the universe is the weak are usually the ones
that are consumed. So the plants that are dying is
what the insects usually attack. They don't attack the one
and wait for it to get big. They go they
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pick their fights, so when they see a high vibrating
plant that doesn't kill them, they just stay away from it.
So sustainable because we can grow four times a year,
and it takes one hundred years ago a tree, the
ones you want to the ones that cut down.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Takes three months to grow a fully grown hand plant.
Speaker 18 (46:14):
One hundred years for a tree, one hundred days for
a hemp plant. Well, it depends. Maybe it's for hers,
maybe it's for fiver.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Depends on what you're trying to do.
Speaker 11 (46:26):
It depends what you're trying to do.
Speaker 18 (46:27):
When it comes to the future of the industry, you're
going to need to expand and you're gonna need a
workforce to help you expand. So how do you think
colleges like La Trade Tech can help you as a
business owner to expand even faster.
Speaker 19 (46:44):
So a friend of mine started a cannabis costs down
in a school down in Florida. It was HBCU Historical
Black College University. They have a Cannabis costs I think
it would be smart to have cannabis courses.
Speaker 11 (47:05):
Not it just but trading.
Speaker 19 (47:06):
But in the same way you do if you were
going to get into a business a billion of florists.
Speaker 11 (47:11):
This plant is entirely different.
Speaker 19 (47:13):
We got so many things that can come out of it,
one how to sell it, to how to manufacture it
without destroying the integrity of the plant marketing salesforce. The
school can teach a lot of things, and I like
that it's in the middle of Los Angeles and it's diverse.
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It's the most important part of it is the diversity
of this campus. Because this is definitely as I said
the future. This plant is going to eradicate about five
to six diseases in the next twenty years where we
don't hear about them anymore. And that's a lot of
money coming out of somebody else's coffers. So we have
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to be diligent, we have to be precise, and we
have to be American capital minded not to let it
slip through our hands. Where it's an industry that we
all can be a part of. My daughter Tyler and
I induces twenty two. She decided we don't have to
be grandfather. Then we can be the pioneers. I just
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take the arrows instead, but she can still be the pioneers.
Speaker 18 (48:23):
That's awesome. And I'm gonna end it with a question
to kind of everybody. He just talked about a course
that's being offered that's gonna teach people the fundamentals of cannabis.
Would you guys take this course if it was offered here?
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Oh yeah, you couldn't stop. Us'd be the first one signist.
Speaker 11 (48:42):
Perfect.
Speaker 18 (48:43):
So let's get this course over here.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Man, that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 11 (48:47):
That sounds good.
Speaker 18 (48:49):
Sounds good to me. I can't wait to see you
guys in action. Your brand is called Deuces twenty two, right,
I'm kind of curious to the name though.
Speaker 11 (48:57):
How'd that come about? I played in the NBA.
Speaker 19 (49:00):
My basketball number in college was retired number twenty two.
It should be retired in about four NBA places, but
we won't get into that now. So I've always been
my daughter wore my numbers. Deuces has always been my numbers.
So we came up with a great logo how it looks,
and it was everyone knew what it was. A song
came out about it. That was great, so just it
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being in people's mind. But it's a lifestyle brand and cannabis.
We're gonna only have twenty two skews of cannabis and
the rest goes into every other part. That's one of
the reasons I'm here. Is everything from shoes, the socks,
the pants, the belts, the underwear, the t shirts, to
sweatshirts to suits, to linens inside your car, linens on
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your bed, every single every single piece hats.
Speaker 11 (49:47):
It's all.
Speaker 19 (49:48):
It's all going gonna be Hemp or some form and
some breakdown of him.
Speaker 11 (49:52):
He even hooked me up with somebody.
Speaker 19 (49:55):
So that's mainly what it is and you can check
it out at Deuces twenty two dot Cannabis on Instagram,
Orduces twenty two dot com.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
Perfect.
Speaker 18 (50:03):
Got to check that out for sure, got to check
that out? And what about Industrial Hemp Alliance? Man, how
do we get in contact? If someone wants to become
a chapter in their college, how would they go about that?
Speaker 5 (50:14):
Man?
Speaker 11 (50:15):
Reach out to us.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
We'll be more than happy to come and put a
workshop at your college, will come and help you get established,
will do you anything well. Our job is to provide
you with every research you need to become successful. So
anything you need come to us would work our best
and we'll get that for you. And if you want
to reach out to us, you can hit us up
at IHA Hemp at gmail dot com. We also have
(50:36):
Lehigh Hemp on Instagram and mister Cannabis at Instagram.
Speaker 18 (50:41):
Inst say mister cannabis for sure?
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Man?
Speaker 18 (50:46):
All right, So Industrial Hemp Allianceduces twenty two, Green Beee Life,
It's been a good talk.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Thank you guys for.
Speaker 11 (50:53):
Sure, Day.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Hemp Hemp ooray for sure? Isn't that fantastic? John Sally,
former NBA basketball champion, cannabis advocate, entrepreneur, veterinarian. Veterinarian well
(51:31):
might as well be vegetarian, healthy lifestyle, healthy sustainable lifestyle
supporting the Los Angeles Trade Technical College. While the LA
t TC doesn't yet offer a formal academic program specifically
dedicated to industrial hemp, what I love is the college's
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commitment to hemp related initiatives through student led organized stations
and events, and a shout out to the Industrial Hemp
Alliance The ih IHA Industrial Hemp Alliance IHA founded by
two incredible young women students, Abigail and no Ami Kuovas,
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and to Anthony Anthony McAfee, who was also interviewed during
that panel and who is the huge tour de force
with the International Hemp Alliance. Working with Alan Abigail and
Noimi Kuevez, they've been very active in promoting the hemp
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industry within the campus community. The International Hemp Alliance has
organized educational workshops, cooking demonstrations, and even a hemp fashion
show to raise awareness about the diverse applications of hemp
and hosted the panel that attracted John Sally. He heard
(53:03):
about it and attended it. A true true MVP. But
so if you're in Los Angeles yeah, you want to
support and check out that international Hemp Alliance. But also
in Los Angeles, I just want to mention several other
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colleges and universities actually across the entire country that have
integrated hemp related studies into their curricula. It reflects the
growing interest in hemp cultivation and processing and its various applications,
and some call it the Super Bowl, different kind of
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bowl of weed. So University of California Riverside, they have
a Cannabis Studies Certificate program at you See Riverside. It's
a twenty four week online course covering various aspects of
the cannabis industry, including the agriculture and horticulture. They're not
exclusively focused on hemp, but the program encompasses the hemp
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relevant agricultural practices. They also have Cornell University. They have
a hemp program and it offers a webinar series featuring
experts discussing topics including he cultivation, processing, and genetics. Theyse
webinars provide valuable insights into the latest developments in hemp
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research and industry practices. Saint Louis Community College they offer
a Certificate of Specialization in Cannabis and Hemp Production Program
educates students on the specialized processes necessary to grow, manage,
and cultivate cannabis and hemp plants in accordance with their
state and federal laws. Murray State University, they've positioned themselves
(55:00):
as a national leader in agricultural hemp development, focusing on research, education, policy,
and innovation within the hemp industry. And Vermont State University,
their Cannabis Studies Certificate program offers a twelve credit interdisciplinary
program exploring the various dimensions of cannabis, including its historical, cultural, economic, political, legal, medicinal,
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and spiritual aspects aspects It's a multifaceted plant, folks, and
that their program also includes cultivation of cannabis commercial development
of industrial hemp. So hey, these programs they reflect and
validate the increasing recognition of cannabis and hemp significance in agriculture,
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next workforce. They need to have the knowledge and skills
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All right, I'm your host, Maria Calabery's and today we've
been discussing cannabis and sports from the professional athletes, working
conversations to help everyone rethink cannabis as a treatment option
and as an agricultural crop, and even down to what's
in their Super Bowl Buffalo wing condiments. So as we
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wrap up today's conversation, one thing is clear. Cannabis and
sports are becoming more intertwined than ever. While the NFL
has taking steps toward updating its cannabis policies, sure it's
still lags behind leagues like the NBA, which have fully
removed marijuana from their banned substances list. Athletes, scientists, and
(58:10):
advocates continue to push for change, recognizing cannabis as a
legitimate tool for recovery. And speaking of football, we can't
close out without mentioning the biggest game of the year,
Super Ball is just days away. Whether you're in it
for the game, the commercials, the halftime show are just
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the infused condiment snacks. It's a cultural phenomenon that brings
people together. But here's a fun fact. Did you know
that Las Vegas, the host of this year's Super Bowl,
is home to some of the largest dispensaries in the country.
Cannabis lounges are going to part of the Vegas experience,
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making this the first super Bowl played in a city
where cannabis consumption is fully legal and socially accept that.
You know, the cannabis industry as a whole is breaking
into mainstream spaces, from major sporting events to cultural celebrations
complete with infused pizza and dipping sauces. The Super Bowl
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and even holidays are presenting new opportunities for normalization, education,
and engagement with a wider audience. Raise is an interesting
question will we see cannabis brands make their way into
Super Bowl advertising in the near future with the mainstream
acceptance growing, and might not be long before a cannabis
company lands a coveted Super Bowl ad spot. Imagine a
(59:36):
halftime commercial featuring pro athletes advocating for cannabis as part
of their wellness routine. We're witnessing history and the making,
and these conversations matter whether you're a fan, an athlete,
or just someone curious about changing the landscape. It's an
exciting time. Thank you for joining me today, Keep the
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the cannabis industry check this out. It's projected to reach
a staggering two hundred billion dollars annually, two hundred billion
each and every year, surpassing the combined revenue of the NFL,
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MLB and NHL. With numbers like that, it's clear cannabis
isn't just in the game, it's changing the playbook. Hey,
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cannabis brings people together, and this year it's making its
mark on one of the biggest events in sports. From
exclusive brand activations and collaborations with NFL legends to infuse
game day condiments, cannabis is officially part of the lineup
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Mink Cannabis. For example, in Arizona, they told me that
they've already received over two hundred Super Bowl pre orders
for infused pizzas, sandwiches, tacos, and sides, some packing up
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Wow Wow. Cresco Labs Good news Cannabis. They're spicing up
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barbecue wing sauces. Yes, condiments are back in select states.
Stores and bikel is bringing their Volcano vaporizer. By the way, guys, Wow,
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dry herb vaporizing versus smoking, That will definitely be an episode.
But Stores and Bickel has one of the best dry
herb vaporizers, desktop and portable, But the Volcano vaporizer. They're
bringing it to Bourbon Street for an activation at the
Sports Illustrated party at Mardi Gras World, where if you're
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lucky enough to be going to that, you can take
Delta nine flower hits just steps away from the Super
Bowl kickoff. But let's face it, cannabis still raises a
lot of questions. Are hamp and marijuana the same? Will
CBD get me high? Can I get the benefits without smoking?
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We'll interfere with my meds. Where do I even start.
So why not ask the pros who are putting cannabis
into their playbooks. Today, I'm bringing you exclusive insights from
former NBA stars Al Harrington and John Sally, former NFL
pros Matt Lugren and Nick Moody, and the cannabis Yogi
(03:31):
Eliza Moroni. So sit back, relax, and let's dive into
how sports are reshaping the cannabis world, one game changing
move at a time.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrill Lynch estimate
that will grow to thirty five billion dollars, and many
experts believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars
each and every year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I just wanted.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I want to see what up his sky. Let me
you know I can see so much, Father.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yon Morosa, Ym Moroser.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I'm a butterfly who is gonna be gone. Taking me
a while to get it. Had to live and cry
to appreciate life and what you give. His words when
you're holding me here, when you hold me so close,
someone bettering under your skin. Want to leave a mark
so that I can be sure that you remember words.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Man sees.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And we've seen cannabis make its way into mainstream sports culture,
but for many professional athletes, it's more than just a trend.
It's a necessity. Injuries, chronic pain, and post career health
struggles have led many former pros to turn to cannabis
not only for personal relief, but as a business opportunity
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to help others. A few years ago, at the State
of Cannabis conference on the historic Queen Mary in Long Beach, California,
I attended a panel of athletes who are now industry
leaders at the front lines of the legal cannabis movement.
Al Harrington, former NBA player and founder of Viola, a
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premium cannabis brand dedicated to social equity and top shelf products.
He was among the panel. Matt Nordgren, former backup quarterback
and managing partner at Arcadian Capital. He started a fund
investing in entrepreneurs shaping the future of cannabis. I like
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this fund because Arcadian believes that wellness enables wealth when
we unlock our full physical, mental, and social wellbeing potential.
Eliza Maroney, the cannabis yogi and founder of benden Blaze Yoga,
also attended. Benden Blaze focuses on how cannabis combined with
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yoga can enhance performance and help heal after post workout recovery.
Morony is also the founder of the Lucky Box Club,
a premier California cannabis delivery service, and Nick Moody, former
NFL player turned cannabis entrepreneur, now runs the cultivation and
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manufacturing operation. Moody knows the struggle firsthand. As a former
San Francisco for forty nine Ers Go forty nine Ers linebacker,
he played through injuries battling the NFL's drug policies as
much as the opposing team's running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks,
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and offensive linemen each out to block, guard and tackle.
For him, cannabis wasn't a crutch, it was a tool.
It helped with focus, pain management, and post game recovery.
But while the league turned a blind eye to opioid culture,
came down hard on THC, slapping players with fine suspensions
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and constant surveillance. Moody's experience isn't unique many former pros,
beyond those participating on the panel that I attended, they're
speaking out. They're speaking about about the unspeaking out about
the unfair policies and double standards in sports. Let's have
a listen to an excerpt from the panel is each
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shared why they made the lead from sports to cannabis entrepreneurship,
why they believe athlete to deserve access to cannabis for
recovery and wellness.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
All right, so welcome to our pro Athletes and Cannabis panel.
This is also for anybody that's an athlete, whether you're
eighty years old and you go for a walk in
the evening, if you're a runner, you like to swim, whatever,
anybody can use cannabis within athletics. So we're quite lucky
to have these high end professional athletes up here with us.
I'm going to start off by letting our panelists, starting
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with Al here, introduce themselves.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
Well, how you doing. My name is Al Harrington, former
NBA player. I played seventeen years professional basketball from ours,
New Jersey now RAZI here in Los Angeles. So the
war on drugs was really real where I grew up.
I either seen people getting locked up or I was
always taught to believe that cannabis or marijuana at the
time or ref for how people used to talk about
it where I'm from was a gateway drug. So throughout
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my whole life, especially me going to the NBA out
of high school. I was always afraid of cannabis, and
when I got into NBA, that was the first time
that I saw actually, like you know, top notch players
actually using cannabis. But at the time, I still didn't
understand it. It still didn't make sense to me, and I
looked down on my teammates that used cannabis. But in
twenty eleven, my grandmother had come to see me play
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when I was playing for the Denver Nuggets, and Denver
is obviously one of the first markets to you know,
have medical program, and she suffered from glaucoma, and you know,
glacoma was always the first, you know, thing that cannabis
was something that considered to heal. So I was able
to convince her to try cannabis. And it was hard
because you know, she was the main person growing up
telling us that we was a was a gateway drug.
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And when I was able to get her to try it,
you know, I checked on an hour and a half
later and I went downstairs. She was downstairs reading her Bible,
and you know, and I asked her how she was doing.
She said, I'm healed. She said, it's the first time
I've be able to read my Bible went over three
and a half years, and for me, that correlation was
just crazy that you know, from someone like her. And
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I always say like, if my grandmother's not going to heaven,
we're all going to hell. And you know, for the
first thing that she would do would actually go down
and read her Bible, you know, just spokes volumes to me.
And at that point I started to educate myself. The
end of that season, I actually had a knee surgery
and got a staff infection. I was in the hospital
for you know, ten days. I have, you know, four
surgeries in a week. At some point I thought I
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was going to die. But when I was sitting in there,
obviously I'm taking all this pain medication, and this lady
that I had knew in Colorado came to see me
and she introduced me to CBD and she gave me
all the topicals. She gave me ten Chuirs capsules, and
you know, ever since that day, I haven't taken an
as friend, I haven't taken an advil. I haven't taken
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any pharmaceutical drugs to manage my pain away from the game,
and uh, you know, pretty much that's my story and
that's why I'm here.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
My name is Matt Norgren. I run a fun call Arcadian.
We do a lot of investing in the industry. I've
been doing that for years, have been very successful at it.
Also was a former athlete. I was a backup quarterback
my whole career. Didn't have to use a lot of
it for pain, but was around a lot of guys
that did for a long time and really saw a
lot of benefit that it did give a lot of athletes.
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In my own personal story, my grandmother had all his
timers were able to help her quality of life at
the end of her life. Had a couple of cousins
with cancer, was able to help a quality of their
life at the end of their life. All three of
past and so it feels really good to be in
an industry that you can do good business and feel
good about the business that you're doing every day.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Hi everyone, my name is Eliza Moroni. I am the
co founder of Lucky Box Club, a cannabis subscription service
here in California, and I'm also known as the Cannabis Yogi.
So I've launched a brand that infuses yoga classes with
cannabis in various different ways. Every attendee seeves a lucky
box one of our boxes, and they get to learn
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about new brands and products in the process before, during,
and after their classes. It gives people a really warm,
intimate space to experiment with new products and to learn
about the different ways of using cannabis and CBD as well.
We have CBD only boxes. And I am in this
because I, just like everyone else I think in this room,
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have been profoundly moved by this amazing, incredible plant in
many different ways. So my history does stem back to
being a cultivator and going from cultivation into retail and
really understanding the entire plant process. And I'm really proud
of that. I am not a professional athlete. I'm the
only one on this stage right now, but I do
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have a lot of insight in how cannabis can enhance
performance and it can also help people to heal after
post workout and games, I would imagine, So thank you,
Nick Moody.
Speaker 10 (12:57):
I actually recently just retired, and then primarily is why
I'm here and focused on this industry. I played for
the forty nine ers, That's who drafted me. Kind of
my introduction to the industry firsthand, and then then the
Seahawks and the right students. We got a company started
a couple of years ago, initially my dad and a
couple of partners. We're switching over from a grow to
a manufacturing facility. So that's what our primary focus is
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right now. And the reason I'm really big on marijuana
is just not just me as my family, we as
a whole. We believe like in the benefits of it,
not just physically, but for like your mental well being.
And with my history on football is me and I
played linebacker and free safety at Florida State and then
in the league, so I've had plenty of injuries, dislocated shoulders,
broken bones, concussions, disk issues, arthritis, so I've had pretty
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much just about anything you can imagine. So my thing
is like the benefits of the just the plan itself.
Them wanting to restrict us from being able to use
it and prescribe as opiates, that's a big contradiction in
my opinion, And that's what I'm kind of getting into
more so now is the advocacy for that and that
and the wellness and the THAC and the CBD as well.
Speaker 11 (14:00):
So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I wanted to say, it must feel good to be
able to come out of the closet of cannabis and
not have the NFL breathing down your neck.
Speaker 10 (14:10):
That was huge because personally from my experience, I was
a guy that was actually in the drug program. So
I got put in there for two years, and I
put in there, well, I failed the test, and then
I was placed in there. I was tested twice a
week every week, so up to eight times a month.
They would come six in the morning, three in the
afternoon Saturday mornings, ask you where you are. You got
to give them a log of your travel. So I
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actually had family members and friends that have actually been
on probation and they had less restrictions than I did.
But just being in that process and seeing other guys
go through that process, and then you actually kind of
really realize how much cannabis does help you in terms
of your injury and the stress and like dealing with
the stress of being a pro athlete, the family demands
and all that stuff. And then when you had that
taken from you, when you're somebody actually relies on that,
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you don't even realize you rely on it, but it
does really help you. You kind of see like the
negative outcome of that. Sometimes you'll be in certain situations
and we wouldn't even have been in that when if
you were allowed to still be able to use cannabis.
I've seen different guys getting the situations when they're in
the jour program where they start doing things they would
never they normally do, and they were just like completely
different people. And honestly, I think that with the NFL program,
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they kind of do more detriment than they do good
when they restrict us and then try to tell you
what to do and this is how you need to act,
and you got to follow these rules, and you can't
act like everybody else, even though you're know a person,
but you got to act this certain way. Meanwhile, some
of the guys that give right in the checks, they
do some of the wildest stuff you can imagine.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Let's give them a huge round of applause for being branded.
They're at the front lines of this movement. And so
these guys that are gonna help us.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Legalize that, Yeah, they're at the front lines and they
all share a common mission to change the conversation and
make cannabis successible for athletes. Who need it. Conversation around
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cannabis and professional sports. It's evolving, but some say not
fast enough. Athletes put their bodies on the line, facing pain, injuries,
and long term health consequences, yet they're there are still
pushed toward opioids, anti inflammatories, and other pharmaceuticals while being
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penalized for choosing a natural alternative. I'm happy to say
since that panel four years ago, major professional sports leagues
in the US have significantly updated their cannabis policies. Cannabis
it's becoming well as mainstream as condiments in your favorite
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Super Bowl food. The NBA, in the lightest seven year
collective bargaining agreement that became effective in July twenty twenty three,
the NBA removedana from its list of banned substances. Yay
players are no longer subjected to random cannabis testing, and
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they're permitted to invest in cannabis related businesses now. The
NFL has relaxed its cannabis policies by increasing the THC
threshold for a positive test. Last I heard, it was
decreased from one hundred and fifty to three hundred and
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fifty nanograms per mil leader players are no longer suspended
solely for positive cannabis tests, and instead fines are imposed
as with amounts decreasing for subsequent violations. The NHL continues
to test for cannabis BOO, but it is not classified
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as a banned substance, which is a big AA. Players
who test positive are not penalized, but maybe offered entry
into the league's Substance Abuse and Behavioral Health program if
THC levels are notably high. Participation in that program is
purely voluntary. You know. These changes reflect a growing acceptance
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of cannabis and professional sports acknowledging its potential benefits for
player health and well being. So Super Bowl Sunday, it's coming,
and I have a little Super Bowl in cannabis trivia?
Are you ready? Who knows? Did you know that legendary
NFL coach Bill Belichick once drafted a player who openly
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admitted to smoking weed before every game in college? Do
you know who that was? Think about it? That player
was Ricky Williams, the Heisman winning running back who later
became one of the most outspoken adverse kids for one
of the most outspoken advocates for cannabis in professional sports. Williams,
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who was suspended multiple times for cannabis use in the NFL.
He eventually left football to study holistic medicine. He later
co founded Heisman, a cannabis lifestyle brand for athletes, proving
that cannabis and sports do not have to be at odds.
They can be a game changer for recovery and wellness.
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Fun fact, the NFL stance on cannabis has evolved since
Ricky's playing days. As of twenty twenty one, players no
longer face suspensions for positive THHC tests, and the threshold
for a positive test was raised fourfold. Progress Right, Well,
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you know what it is. Twenty minutes into the show,
and twenty minutes into the show where we're coming to
you from means we're coming up on four to twenty
ozho clock in Low Melinda, California, and that means it's
time for today's quick hit. Today we're shining a spotlight
(20:14):
on the science. Doctor David Bharman, one of the leading
voices in cannabinoid medicine. His book, The History of Cannabis's
Medicine takes readers on a deep dive into the plant's
long standing role in healing throughout history and now let's
get smarter with today's quickt by doctor David Bharman himself
in this exclusive quick hit clip.
Speaker 12 (20:48):
Things are changing in the cannabis space, but what we've
experienced are more individuals, especially our seniors, coming to us
for different types of disorder and wanting to know more
about cannabinoid therapy and the work that we do. We've
been blessed to have doctor David Bharman as our Director
of Medicine, who has an extensive history in cannabis as
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medicine as well as the history of cannabis.
Speaker 13 (21:15):
This is a five hundred page book that frames cannabis
in the history of the use of psychoactive drugs or
spirituality for healing, for commerce, and the drug policy we
have used to marginalize discriminated against people ever since Hope
Inoson the sixth declared that cannabis was a tool of
the devil in the fifteenth century, and he did that
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because it helped believe the pain of childbirths from women,
and we know that they have that pain because of
eve sin. The list goes on and on about the
way in which we in this country as well as
around the world, have used drug policy to marginalize people.
And then the last third of this book really talks
about cannabis in contemporary times and its use as a medicine.
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And the last chapter talks about if we were really
serious about doing something about substance abuse, what we would do.
This is a new book that's going to be coming
out October twenty eighteen that is started design for nurses
and doctors, and I hope it'll be used as a textbook,
and it covers a lot of the science related to cannabis,
cannabinoids in the endocannabinoid system. It's got a lot of
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science in it, but most of it is readable and understandable.
The American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine is there to certify
those cannabinoid medicine specialists to a practicing good quality medicine.
We want to marginalize those doctors like the doc in
Venice Beach who has the gallon the bikini out in
the front. Saine evaluation is thirty nine to ninety five.
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Cannabis is a real medicine. It deserves more respective.
Speaker 12 (22:45):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 14 (22:46):
If you read the doctor's book, he gave me a
copy last year. It's one of the most definitive sources
on history. I didn't know cannabis had people vilifying it.
I thought that started with with for madness in the thirties.
I didn't know why all the way back.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And well, now, for any of the viewers that want
to buy your book, is it available online for churchase?
Speaker 13 (23:07):
You could get it on Amazon, And I really appreciate
you give me the opportunity to bring these to the attention.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Of your audience.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's right, cannabis is a medicine. Well, stay tuned because
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I'm your host, Maria Calabrese, and I have to say
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before the commercial break, I teased an exclusive interview I
had with John Sally and it's it's it's time to
dive into the game changing conversation around cannabis and professional sports.
Sally played for the Detroit Pistons from nineteen eighty six
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to nineteen ninety two, Miami Heat ninety two to ninety five,
the Toronto Raptors ninety five and ninety six, the Chicago
Bills in ninety six, and yes, the LA Lakers in
nineteen ninety nine and two thousand. He won NBA Championships
with three different teams, the Detroit Pistons in eighty nine
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and ninety Chicago Bulls in ninety six and the Los
Angeles Lakers in two thousand, making him the first player
in NBA history to win titles with three different franchises.
Well late is over. John is not only a four
time NBA champion, but also a passionate advocate for plant
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based wellness. It caught up with him in Los Angeles
at a HEMP conference held at the Los Angeles Trade
Technical College, which he supports, and he shared why he
turned to cannabis for well being and how it led
him to launch his own brand, dus Is twenty two.
All right, let's get on with this exclusive Greenbee Life
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TV interview with HEMP advocate and host Rego.
Speaker 18 (27:00):
This is Rico with green Bee Life and I'm here
with Anthony Macfeeders and John Sally. We're just finishing event
at the LA Trade Tech with the Industrial Hemp Alliance.
I'm gonna hand it off to Anthony to tell you
more about HEMP Pathways.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Well, we're launching a Pathway series and the into Los
Angeles Trade Tech and we'll we're doing his career focus,
so we want to focus implementing HEMP in everyone's career.
Here trying to create entrepreneurs. We have nine pathways here
at trade Tech, so we're trying to implement hamping every
one of them. Also have nine sister colleges, and we're
going to implement hamping those pathways as well.
Speaker 18 (27:27):
Explain to me how are you involved with the hemp industry.
Speaker 19 (27:29):
I have a cannabis company with my daughter called Deuces
twenty two. She's CEO with pre rolls and gummies and
the sister Plant. I'm going to say to the hemp plant.
I literally am involved with a hemp grow in California.
I am a part of Hemp Week and I own
all American hemp company. When I met Anthony at Stuff
I Eat in Inglewood, he was at a vegan restaurant,
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happy to see you there. He's living a lifestyle from
what he puts in his body to what he puts
on his body to what he puts out in the world.
Speaker 11 (27:58):
So I had to come check it out.
Speaker 18 (27:59):
So I was really interesting saying, you guys, met at where.
Speaker 19 (28:02):
Vegan raw restaurant called Stuff I Eat. It's on Market
Street in Inglewood. It was there since two thousand and eight,
before the vegan craze took a hold of America. They
were already ten years ahead of themselves. I like being
around that. I drive all the way to Inglewood to eat.
I live out in the valley. I go in to
support the community.
Speaker 18 (28:18):
It's a pretty far drive.
Speaker 19 (28:19):
Got electric car, so I'm not really wasting anything.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 18 (28:24):
You are very involved in the industry.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Do you partake?
Speaker 11 (28:28):
I'm about to.
Speaker 19 (28:29):
I was waiting too long for this interview, is why
it's such a straight interview.
Speaker 18 (28:35):
No, I do.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
I believe so.
Speaker 19 (28:38):
The history is I played in the NBA and for
a long time, and not until my fifteenth year and
a month before I retired that I smoked cannabis, and
I don't ever remember feeling that good except for winning
a championship. And if I would have been smoking my
entire career one, I probably have less children, i would
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have way more money saved, and I'd probably still be playing.
Because it's an amazing plant. I am investigating and finding
a thousand ways of dealing with it. There's two hundred
ways of dealing with it in HEMP and just on
that form. On the medical side, what it does in
the CBD and cbgs and cv E s all kinds
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of w X Y z's in the letters, this plant
is involved with and the fact that we're out of
prohibition or heading out of prohibition is a good thing.
So encompassing it all is what I plan on doing.
Speaker 18 (29:36):
That sounds perfect. And you compared it to winning a championship.
That's pretty that's pretty good.
Speaker 19 (29:41):
If you ever smoke the weed we're about to put
out on deuces, you would be winning a championship.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
That's what it feels to be a champion.
Speaker 18 (29:49):
That sounds like a slogan to me.
Speaker 19 (29:50):
It sounds like marketing one hundred day.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
They're trying to do hemp pathways.
Speaker 18 (29:59):
You're trying to get more people to get in this
industry and educate them because as we were listening, there's
a lack of education. Would you be interested in, I
don't know, having interns at some point in time in
the future from any of these trade tags that are
educating people on hemp and cannabis and how to process
and manufacture and so.
Speaker 19 (30:17):
On and so with Anthony we had that conversation. But
I'm a capitalist, I'm an American, so you first have
to put it. And the reason I say that is
usually people don't pay attention to anybody unless they've already
done it, unless they have enough money to make a
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mistake doing again. So when you're starting from the same
level and we're gonna bubble up, that's one way of
doing it. But if you want people involve, you have
to be it. Jay Z wasn't just another rapper. He
was a rapper that made it. Then now when he speaks,
it has some validity to it. If he was just
another rapper, we heard the rhetoric before, but until he's
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gone out, did it come back and teach it. That's
when people pay respect. Plus, people pay respect when it
costs something. When it doesn't cost anything, it usually has
no value to him or it's bad for him, Like
government cheese.
Speaker 11 (31:18):
That's free all day and that's no good.
Speaker 18 (31:20):
For you government cheese. All right, Anthony, how do you
see these HEMP pathways leading the future for trade techs
and well La And you said he had nine sister campuses,
So how do you see HEMP as people around to
get on into the cannabis industry because it's a growing market,
one hundreds of thousands of potential jobs in the very
near future. Can LA trade tech be the epicenter of well,
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the education of this New Boom.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
The reason why we chose to go into industrial hemp
rather than marijuana or anything like that, we felt that
market was oversaturated. We felt that this was a market
that we can jump right in and you know, take
and just grab it and go. We believe Trade TICH
would be a great candidate because we do everything industry
of all trades here. We have nine trades here, so
we can implement hamp in all those trades. And then
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the other sister colleges like Pierce College has agriculture, LACC
has journalism, all types of things. We can implement hampen
And that's what we saw. We saw the future in that.
Speaker 18 (32:18):
So how big do you think the future is?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
The future? I mean it's gonna be like some George
jets and flying cards on hemp ethanol type stuff. You know,
that's what we're looking at. You know what I'm saying.
We're trying to set the standards of this hemp game.
That's what we want to do.
Speaker 18 (32:33):
That'll be dope, that would be dope.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
That would be literally dope.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 18 (32:41):
You guys met at a vegan restaurants, which is amazing.
I'm a vegetarian, so I give props to both of
you guys, because it's pretty tough out there to like remain.
Speaker 11 (32:50):
Well.
Speaker 18 (32:52):
It can't be tough. It's not tough for you, but
tough for me.
Speaker 11 (32:57):
All right.
Speaker 18 (32:57):
So you guys are obviously into the sustain nobility mindset.
You see that this world could be better.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Why should people give a hemp?
Speaker 18 (33:06):
Why do you give a hemp?
Speaker 19 (33:08):
The reason I'm vegan is because I am conscious. You
really talk to people who aren't awake. They don't see it.
I stop wasting my breath on the sleeping. As a
conscious person, you have to realize that factory firement is
destroying lives. The mentality is when you're a kid, they
show you all these books on how you love the animals,
(33:29):
and the animals talk, Charlotte's Web, everything, all movies, but
then they feed you chicken right after it, or they
feed you A pig is smarter than a dog, Like,
if you're going to have a house bet, it should
be a pig. To be honest. One, people don't run
up on it. It alerts you that something's going on.
It's a smart animal. But people decide to eat it.
And I think it's crazy that they distinguish cats dogs,
(33:51):
certain birds, certain fish get to live, but all the
rest are made.
Speaker 11 (33:56):
For us to live. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 19 (33:58):
The other part is if you don't change your mentality
by eating, not only are destroying lives, you're destroying your life.
The body is a fiber consuming mammal. We are not
supposed to be eating dead, decayning caucus, or eating the
mental shyico of a chicken, or eating the testicles of
bulls and cows. And it just doesn't make any sense
(34:22):
that those are things that we decided. It's food, and
being a person of African descent, we in my community
are a community of people that look like me. We
still eat slave food, so we're still enslaved mentally, one
by the food we eat and two by the way
we were taught. So it's everybody has to make an
(34:42):
impression on this planet.
Speaker 11 (34:44):
My impressant is to.
Speaker 19 (34:45):
Have the least footprint that I can leave when I leave,
and these are some big feet. But I decided to
drive a green car, being electric. I like the hemp
ethanol mentality For those who still want to have cars
that deal with liquid and fumes, I'm literally trying to breathe.
I was in China, last year, and I didn't see
(35:05):
the sun one time, and I was in a very
nice place. But they are in a country like China
making it a country wide mentality to get.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
Rid of the smog. So they're going electric.
Speaker 19 (35:17):
You heard no scooters, You still hel cars, but then
pretty soon you heal no cars, and then they'll be
able to see the sky. So it's a country behind that.
They can call it communists, socialists, whatever, but the fact
that the government has even noticed problems with it and
how to try to get around it is an impressive thing.
So personally, eating vegan means I care about myself, and
(35:39):
to care about myself mean I care about the planet
and the next thing. So I don't think anything has
to die for me to live. I'm obviously living well.
It shows in my body and it shows in my mind.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome for sure.
Speaker 18 (35:52):
And I'm gonna ask the same question to you, man,
why should people give a hmp.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Man, you should give a hint because you know the
future relies on it. You know, we're killing our planet
or you know, taking all the oil or taking all
the natural resources. Right now, we can't even use straws
in California, because you know, and that all can be
changed to hemp straw we can do we can do
him biodegrad but plastics, we knew anything with him, and
so I feel that, you know, if you still I
(36:19):
know for myself, you know, I want a straw. I
don't want to put my lips on nobody glass in
the restaurant. That's just me. So you know, taking that
luxury away because you know it's killing the environment, and
why why not you know, step intore and step into
that product and put it in in there. That's for sure.
Speaker 18 (36:35):
I've had that idea of making hamp straws a little
bit harder than than it looks like, but near future
very possible, very possible.
Speaker 13 (36:43):
You know.
Speaker 19 (36:43):
What you can also do is have your own straw
so you can come. They sell them on Amazon. I
don't mean to advertise for Amazon, but we all are
and you can literally they literally fold up.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
It's pretty slick.
Speaker 19 (36:58):
I got one in the car and I carry my
own bottle of water. I drink the stilled water. Listen,
you you're a vegetarian. That means you like eggs and cheese,
so you're a flesh.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
Eater to agree, right.
Speaker 19 (37:15):
So casein is the number one course of cancer is
in cheese. Cholesterol. One hundred percent cholesterol is in eggs.
So you're giving yourself high cholesterol and cancer cells. Why
would you do that. I'm in milk, more protein, better
(37:35):
for you, more feeling. No animals had to die flaxeied
eggs beyond follow your hard eggs. If you want that
funk smell, you can get it. You can get it
there and it would scramble. The deal is, it's it's
really hard to not care about somebody when you're when
you're a loving human being, it's really hard to not
(37:59):
care about other people. It's not hard to eat well
and care about other people. So and the benefit is,
I just turned fifty five and I'm the same body
weight that I was when I was twenty five, with
the same libido and sex drive, which most guys can't say,
you go to Vegas right now. They're buying Viagara at
thirty five years old. So it's like this helps you
(38:23):
and your woman or your other mate, whatever it may be.
This helps in all of the ways possible, keeps your
confidence going. You are able to leave and realize a
wonderful thing you've done for the planet. If you ever
look at a baby calf you go, oh sweet, or
you look at a little sheet you go well. But
the funny thing is they don't care about it when
(38:45):
it gets to a certain age. It's just like certain
parts of the government when they talk about pro life
and pro choice. The truth about it is they want
you at an age where they can use you. They're
not really pro life. They're not really caring about abortion.
They're not They're caring about are we going to have
somebody to make if we keep having abortion, We're not
(39:07):
going to have enough people paying taxes to pay for this,
and we need them for soldiers, male and female, gay
and straight.
Speaker 11 (39:15):
That tells you that they only want it for that.
Speaker 19 (39:19):
So when you deal with that pro life, if you
really about pro life, you'll be about pro life like
not just.
Speaker 11 (39:26):
Humans, because we're earthlings.
Speaker 19 (39:28):
Everything on the planet deserves a right to be here,
and everything on the planet adds to that ecosystem. You
go out and see a whole bunch of cow down
and you be like, man, the cowd's going crazy. That's
called fertilizer, right, So you see you get a whole
bunch of goats and you go, man, I don't feel
like cutting the grass today. Just let your coat go out,
come back, have no grass. So everybody does what they
(39:49):
do as a human being, the one who can make
things because we got five fingers and thumbs and we
can speak in different languages just like animals, but we
can make things. Well, it means we're not smarter, just
we have more ingenuity, but doesn't mean they should die.
Speaker 18 (40:05):
There's been a different kind of mentality going on recently.
There's people I've been switching more to vegetarian vegan lifestyles
because they're more aware. This awareness that we're all collectively creating.
It's going on to different like places.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
One of them is hemp.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
It was made ill legal.
Speaker 18 (40:23):
We went from complete prohibition to now we want to
use it for fifty thousand different products. When do you
see hemp actually becoming widespread acceptance of hemp?
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Well, I think the time is now. It's crucial, you know,
and it's about educating you, yourself and the people around you.
For example, veganism. I got my crew right here, they
keep me. I got a thing I called do it
for Alley. When I was like I'll be wanting to
do something, I'll be wanting the litter. I'm gonna do
this for Allei, Man, I'm not gonna do it, and
you know, because you know they helped me out, you know,
(40:54):
with all everything I need to do to be sustainable
myself and as far as hem, you know, like he's
like John said, Man, we want people to be alive.
You know, there's so many aspects of this of this product,
for example, hemp crete. Man, you can have a breathable
wall that filters every all the air that in your house.
You know, you don't have any allergy. You know, we're
in La a very toxic place that the air here
(41:15):
is horrible, So you want that filtered out of your
house and become your true safe place there so you
can just you know, implement. There's so many benefits that
we just have to take advantage of it, especially eating him.
You got all your o magas, all your proteins, and
it's just amazing.
Speaker 18 (41:30):
How long is it gonna take for the rest of
the country to wake up? Because there's still a lot
of stigma towards this plant. A lot of people don't
even know what it does or the benefits, and they're
scared of it because it might get you a little high.
So when do you think the country as a whole
is gonna get over this stigma?
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Every day I think we gain a little bit. So
you do everything, you walk in the ways you preach,
and eventually it's gonna just take over. You know, it's
gonna be a hemp revolution.
Speaker 18 (41:55):
When do you think this stigma is gonna go away?
Because you've been here for longer, you've been in the industry,
you're in the industry.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Are things getting easier? Are things getting harder? What do
you feel about that?
Speaker 19 (42:07):
Well, the h hemp plant cannot get you high. The
cannabis plant can get you high. The hemp plant cannot
get you high. There's no thac in a hemp plant,
especially the way they're breaking it down.
Speaker 11 (42:18):
Now there's like I said, it's a sister plant. Two.
Speaker 19 (42:23):
They spent so much money, eighteen hundreds on pushing hemp away,
so we got a hundred years of propaganda to knock down.
I tell people, in nineteen nineteen, prohibition was over, and
to this day, people still think, I'm gonna take a drink,
It's gonna calm my nerves.
Speaker 11 (42:44):
Like you hear people.
Speaker 19 (42:45):
Say that, but they don't know why they say that.
They think the drink is calming their nerves when it's
really just deadening in brain cells. If you smoke cannabis,
it enhances your body and enhances brain cells, but they
used to say it killed brains. Right, So the teaching
of it and making it as normal or as acceptable
(43:09):
as possible something that we do in the everyday deal.
It's going to be years and years. It took a
long time for people to get over, like separating drinking
fountains and restaurants. I mean, that's this is not not
not sixty years ago. Matter of fact, just sixty years
ago are closed right so to this day. So it's
(43:32):
it's it takes time to the fact that he and I,
people of color of African descent, are sitting up here
doing an interview at trade Tech is an amazing thing.
So you know, I don't discount it because I've seen
when it wasn't. I have daughters who I don't not
say take for granted they supposed to. They take it
as that the way it's supposed to be right and wrong,
(43:53):
not black and white. So I think in this world
of him, one we have to change him. In ten
is about eighty six percent of the people in jail
for marijuana or happen to be of color. We also
have to change what happens when you get cited for
having cannabis now, which is also changed, And we have
(44:14):
to take away the feeling that stoners are not successful.
I prove that to be totally false.
Speaker 18 (44:20):
All right, So we're talking a lot about sustainability and
awareness and such. There's a lot of companies in the
CBD and hemp market at this point in time that
are kind of sketchy. They're not doing it the right way.
They are wasting a lot. There's pesticide, and there's stuff
they're not supposed to be using. How do you start
a hemp company and make it sustainable so that it's
(44:42):
good for the environment and good for your economy.
Speaker 19 (44:46):
The best thing about hemp is what it can be
toxic ground. And when you put hemp into the toxic ground,
it literally it literally cleans and it makes the soil healthy.
That's a great thing about this plant. The company I
work with, pure Crop One, we have a spray that
literally does not kill insects. It's not a pesticide of herbicide,
(45:08):
it's an enhancement. It literally canvinces the plant to vibrate
at a higher level. So when you're talking about plants,
greens vibrate let's say here and then fruits here. Fruit
are the highest vibrating plants. So like between eleven and two.
I always tell people to eat because that's when you're hybrading,
you're vibrating at your highest level, and so is fruit constantly.
(45:29):
So if I spray it on and I get the
plant to vibrate at a higher level, insects won't eat
it because they believe in the idea of the law
of the universe is the weak are usually the ones
that are consumed. So the plants that are dying is
what the insects usually attack. They don't attack the one
and wait for it to get big. They go they
(45:52):
pick their fights, so when they see a high vibrating
plant that doesn't kill them, they just stay away from it.
So sustainable because we can grow four times a year,
and it takes one hundred years ago a tree, the
ones you want to the ones that cut down.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Takes three months to grow a fully grown hand plant.
Speaker 18 (46:14):
One hundred years for a tree, one hundred days for
a hemp plant. Well, it depends. Maybe it's for hers,
maybe it's for fiver.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Depends on what you're trying to do.
Speaker 11 (46:26):
It depends what you're trying to do.
Speaker 18 (46:27):
When it comes to the future of the industry, you're
going to need to expand and you're gonna need a
workforce to help you expand. So how do you think
colleges like La Trade Tech can help you as a
business owner to expand even faster.
Speaker 19 (46:44):
So a friend of mine started a cannabis costs down
in a school down in Florida. It was HBCU Historical
Black College University. They have a Cannabis costs I think
it would be smart to have cannabis courses.
Speaker 11 (47:05):
Not it just but trading.
Speaker 19 (47:06):
But in the same way you do if you were
going to get into a business a billion of florists.
Speaker 11 (47:11):
This plant is entirely different.
Speaker 19 (47:13):
We got so many things that can come out of it,
one how to sell it, to how to manufacture it
without destroying the integrity of the plant marketing salesforce. The
school can teach a lot of things, and I like
that it's in the middle of Los Angeles and it's diverse.
(47:35):
It's the most important part of it is the diversity
of this campus. Because this is definitely as I said
the future. This plant is going to eradicate about five
to six diseases in the next twenty years where we
don't hear about them anymore. And that's a lot of
money coming out of somebody else's coffers. So we have
(47:58):
to be diligent, we have to be precise, and we
have to be American capital minded not to let it
slip through our hands. Where it's an industry that we
all can be a part of. My daughter Tyler and
I induces twenty two. She decided we don't have to
be grandfather. Then we can be the pioneers. I just
(48:19):
take the arrows instead, but she can still be the pioneers.
Speaker 18 (48:23):
That's awesome. And I'm gonna end it with a question
to kind of everybody. He just talked about a course
that's being offered that's gonna teach people the fundamentals of cannabis.
Would you guys take this course if it was offered here?
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Oh yeah, you couldn't stop. Us'd be the first one signist.
Speaker 11 (48:42):
Perfect.
Speaker 18 (48:43):
So let's get this course over here.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Man, that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 11 (48:47):
That sounds good.
Speaker 18 (48:49):
Sounds good to me. I can't wait to see you
guys in action. Your brand is called Deuces twenty two, right,
I'm kind of curious to the name though.
Speaker 11 (48:57):
How'd that come about? I played in the NBA.
Speaker 19 (49:00):
My basketball number in college was retired number twenty two.
It should be retired in about four NBA places, but
we won't get into that now. So I've always been
my daughter wore my numbers. Deuces has always been my numbers.
So we came up with a great logo how it looks,
and it was everyone knew what it was. A song
came out about it. That was great, so just it
(49:21):
being in people's mind. But it's a lifestyle brand and cannabis.
We're gonna only have twenty two skews of cannabis and
the rest goes into every other part. That's one of
the reasons I'm here. Is everything from shoes, the socks,
the pants, the belts, the underwear, the t shirts, to
sweatshirts to suits, to linens inside your car, linens on
(49:43):
your bed, every single every single piece hats.
Speaker 11 (49:47):
It's all.
Speaker 19 (49:48):
It's all going gonna be Hemp or some form and
some breakdown of him.
Speaker 11 (49:52):
He even hooked me up with somebody.
Speaker 19 (49:55):
So that's mainly what it is and you can check
it out at Deuces twenty two dot Cannabis on Instagram,
Orduces twenty two dot com.
Speaker 5 (50:02):
Perfect.
Speaker 18 (50:03):
Got to check that out for sure, got to check
that out? And what about Industrial Hemp Alliance? Man, how
do we get in contact? If someone wants to become
a chapter in their college, how would they go about that?
Speaker 5 (50:14):
Man?
Speaker 11 (50:15):
Reach out to us.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
We'll be more than happy to come and put a
workshop at your college, will come and help you get established,
will do you anything well. Our job is to provide
you with every research you need to become successful. So
anything you need come to us would work our best
and we'll get that for you. And if you want
to reach out to us, you can hit us up
at IHA Hemp at gmail dot com. We also have
(50:36):
Lehigh Hemp on Instagram and mister Cannabis at Instagram.
Speaker 18 (50:41):
Inst say mister cannabis for sure?
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Man?
Speaker 18 (50:46):
All right, So Industrial Hemp Allianceduces twenty two, Green Beee Life,
It's been a good talk.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Thank you guys for.
Speaker 11 (50:53):
Sure, Day.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Hemp Hemp ooray for sure? Isn't that fantastic? John Sally,
former NBA basketball champion, cannabis advocate, entrepreneur, veterinarian. Veterinarian well
(51:31):
might as well be vegetarian, healthy lifestyle, healthy sustainable lifestyle
supporting the Los Angeles Trade Technical College. While the LA
t TC doesn't yet offer a formal academic program specifically
dedicated to industrial hemp, what I love is the college's
(51:53):
commitment to hemp related initiatives through student led organized stations
and events, and a shout out to the Industrial Hemp
Alliance The ih IHA Industrial Hemp Alliance IHA founded by
two incredible young women students, Abigail and no Ami Kuovas,
(52:20):
and to Anthony Anthony McAfee, who was also interviewed during
that panel and who is the huge tour de force
with the International Hemp Alliance. Working with Alan Abigail and
Noimi Kuevez, they've been very active in promoting the hemp
(52:42):
industry within the campus community. The International Hemp Alliance has
organized educational workshops, cooking demonstrations, and even a hemp fashion
show to raise awareness about the diverse applications of hemp
and hosted the panel that attracted John Sally. He heard
(53:03):
about it and attended it. A true true MVP. But
so if you're in Los Angeles yeah, you want to
support and check out that international Hemp Alliance. But also
in Los Angeles, I just want to mention several other
(53:23):
colleges and universities actually across the entire country that have
integrated hemp related studies into their curricula. It reflects the
growing interest in hemp cultivation and processing and its various applications,
and some call it the Super Bowl, different kind of
(53:48):
bowl of weed. So University of California Riverside, they have
a Cannabis Studies Certificate program at you See Riverside. It's
a twenty four week online course covering various aspects of
the cannabis industry, including the agriculture and horticulture. They're not
exclusively focused on hemp, but the program encompasses the hemp
(54:13):
relevant agricultural practices. They also have Cornell University. They have
a hemp program and it offers a webinar series featuring
experts discussing topics including he cultivation, processing, and genetics. Theyse
webinars provide valuable insights into the latest developments in hemp
(54:35):
research and industry practices. Saint Louis Community College they offer
a Certificate of Specialization in Cannabis and Hemp Production Program
educates students on the specialized processes necessary to grow, manage,
and cultivate cannabis and hemp plants in accordance with their
state and federal laws. Murray State University, they've positioned themselves
(55:00):
as a national leader in agricultural hemp development, focusing on research, education, policy,
and innovation within the hemp industry. And Vermont State University,
their Cannabis Studies Certificate program offers a twelve credit interdisciplinary
program exploring the various dimensions of cannabis, including its historical, cultural, economic, political, legal, medicinal,
(55:25):
and spiritual aspects aspects It's a multifaceted plant, folks, and
that their program also includes cultivation of cannabis commercial development
of industrial hemp. So hey, these programs they reflect and
validate the increasing recognition of cannabis and hemp significance in agriculture,
(55:50):
industry and commerce. And we need students to be the
next workforce. They need to have the knowledge and skills
to engage in this evolving field. So stay tuned as
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All right, I'm your host, Maria Calabery's and today we've
been discussing cannabis and sports from the professional athletes, working
conversations to help everyone rethink cannabis as a treatment option
and as an agricultural crop, and even down to what's
in their Super Bowl Buffalo wing condiments. So as we
(57:47):
wrap up today's conversation, one thing is clear. Cannabis and
sports are becoming more intertwined than ever. While the NFL
has taking steps toward updating its cannabis policies, sure it's
still lags behind leagues like the NBA, which have fully
removed marijuana from their banned substances list. Athletes, scientists, and
(58:10):
advocates continue to push for change, recognizing cannabis as a
legitimate tool for recovery. And speaking of football, we can't
close out without mentioning the biggest game of the year,
Super Ball is just days away. Whether you're in it
for the game, the commercials, the halftime show are just
(58:32):
the infused condiment snacks. It's a cultural phenomenon that brings
people together. But here's a fun fact. Did you know
that Las Vegas, the host of this year's Super Bowl,
is home to some of the largest dispensaries in the country.
Cannabis lounges are going to part of the Vegas experience,
(58:52):
making this the first super Bowl played in a city
where cannabis consumption is fully legal and socially accept that.
You know, the cannabis industry as a whole is breaking
into mainstream spaces, from major sporting events to cultural celebrations
complete with infused pizza and dipping sauces. The Super Bowl
(59:13):
and even holidays are presenting new opportunities for normalization, education,
and engagement with a wider audience. Raise is an interesting
question will we see cannabis brands make their way into
Super Bowl advertising in the near future with the mainstream
acceptance growing, and might not be long before a cannabis
company lands a coveted Super Bowl ad spot. Imagine a
(59:36):
halftime commercial featuring pro athletes advocating for cannabis as part
of their wellness routine. We're witnessing history and the making,
and these conversations matter whether you're a fan, an athlete,
or just someone curious about changing the landscape. It's an
exciting time. Thank you for joining me today, Keep the
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