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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to Just Say No, the show
where we spotlight cannabis innovators, game changing products, and the
visionaries driving the legal cannabis movement. I'm your host, Maria Calabrese.
Broadcasting on KCAA Radio ten fifty AM one O six
point five FM, the station that leaves no listener behind. Hey,
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the cannabis industry check this out. It's projected to reach
a staggering two hundred billion dollars annually, two hundred billion
each and every year, surpassing the combined revenue of the NFF, well, MLB,
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and NHL. With numbers like that, it's clear cannabis isn't
just in the game, it's changing the playbook. Hey, everybody
ready for Sunday, the Super Bowl? Super Bowl Sunday? Okay,
got your bets in? Well, much like the Super Bowl,
cannabis brings people together, and this year it's making it's
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mark on one of the biggest events in sports. From
exclusive brand activations and collaborations with NFL legends to infuse
game day condiments. Cannabis is officially part of the lineup
Mink Cannabis, for example, in Arizona, they told me that
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they've already received over two hundred Super Bowl pre orders
for infused pizzas, sandwiches, tacos, and sides, some packing up
to a undred milligrams of THC for recreational consumers. Wow
Wow Wow, Cresco Labs, Good News Cannabis. They're spicing up
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the Super Bowl celebrations with THC infused buffalo and Asian
barbecue wing sauces. Yes, condiments are back in select states.
Stores and bikel is bringing their Volcano vaporizer. By the way, guys, Wow,
dry herb vaporizing versus smoking. That will definitely be an episode.
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But Stores and bikel has one of the best dry
herb vaporizers, desktop and portable, but the Volcano vaporizer. They're
bringing it to Bourbon Street for an activation at the
Sports Illustrated Party at Mardi Gras World, where if you're
lucky enough to be going to that, you can take
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Delta nine flower hits just steps away from the Super
Bowl kickoff. But let's face it, cannabis still raises a
lot of questions. Are hamp and marijuana the same? Will
CBD get me high? Can I get the benefits without smoking?
We'll interfere with my meds. Where do I even start?
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So why not ask the pros who are putting cannabis
into their playbooks. Today I'm bringing you exclusive insights from
former NBA stars Al Harrington and John Sally, former NFL
pros Matt Lungren and Nick Moody, and the cannabis Yogi,
Eliza Moroni. So sit back, relax, and let's dive into
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how sports are reshaping the cannabis world, one game changing
move at a time.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrill Lynch estimate
that will grow to thirty five billion dollars. Many experts
believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars each
and every year.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I just wanted, I want to say, word up the SCO.
I can see so much, your mollser, your mo loser.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I'm a butterfly who is gonna be gun. Taking me
a while to get it. Had to live and cry.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
To appreciate your life and what you give his words
when you're holding me here, when you hold me so
close someone better and under your skin.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I want to leave a mark so that I can
be sure that you.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Member wise, we've seen cannabis make its way into mainstream
sports culture, but for many professional athletes, it's more than
just a trend. It's a necessity. Injuries, chronic pain, and
post career health struggles have led many former pros to
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turn to cannabis not only for personal relief, but as
a business opportunity to help others. A few years ago,
at the State of Cannabis conference on the historic Queen
Mary in Long Beach, California, I attended a panel of
athletes who are now industry leaders at the front lines
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of the legal cannabis movement. Al Harrington, former NBA player
and founder of Viola, a premium cannabis brand dedicated to
social equity and top shelf products. He was among the panel.
Matt Nordgren, former backup quarterback and managing partner at Arcadian Capital.
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He started a fund investing in entrepreneurs shaping the future
of cannabis. I like this fund because Arcadian believes that
wellness enables wealth when we unlock our full physical, mental,
and social wellbeing potential. Eliza Maroney, the cannabis yogi and
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founder of benden Blaze Yoga, also attended. Bendam Blaze focuses
on how cannabis combined with yoga can enhance performance and
help heal after post workout recovery. Morony is also the
founder of the Lucky Box Club, a premier California cannabis
delivery service, and Nick Moody, former NFL player turned cannabis entrepreneur,
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now runs a cultivation and manufacturing operation. Moody knows the
struggle firsthand. As a former San Francisco for forty nine
Ers Go forty nine Ers linebacker, he played through injuries,
battling the NFL's drug policies as much as the opposing
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team's running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks, and offensive linemen each
out to block, guard, and tackle. For him, cannabis wasn't
a crutch. It was a tool. It helped with focus,
pain management, and post game recovery. But while the league
turned a blind eye to opioid culture, came down hard
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on THCHC, slapping players with fine suspensions and constant surveillance.
Moody's experience isn't unique many former pros beyond those participating
on the panel that I attended, they're speaking out. They're
speaking about about the speaking out about the unfair policies
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and double standards in sports. Let's have a listen to
an excerpt from the panel is each shared why they
made the lead from sports to cannabis entrepreneurship and why
they believe athlete to deserve access to cannabis for recovery
and wellness.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
All right, so welcome to our pro Athletes and Cannabis panel.
This is also for anybody that's an athlete, whether you're
eighty years old and you go for a walk in
the evening, if you're a runner, you like to swim, whatever.
Anybody can use cannabis within athletics. So we're quite lucky
to have these high end professional athletes up here with us.
I'm going to start off by letting our panelists, starting
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with Al here, introduce themselves.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Well, how you doing. My name is Al Harrington, former
NBA player. I played seventeen years professional basketball from ours,
New Jersey now RASI here in Los Angeles, So the
war on drugs was really real. Grew up, I either
seen people getting locked up or I was always taught
to believe that cannabis or marijuana at the time, or
refa how people used to talk about it where I'm from,
was a gateway drug. So throughout my whole life, especially
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me going to the NBA out of high school, I
was always afraid of cannabis. And when I got into
the NBA, that was the first time that I saw actually,
like you know, top notch players actually using cannabis. But
at the time, I still didn't understand it. It still didn't
make sense to me, and I looked down on my
teammates that used cannabis. But in twenty eleven, my grandmother
had come to see me play when I was playing
for the Denver Nuggets, and Denver is obviously one of
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the first markets to you know, have medical program and
she suffered from glaucoma, and you know, glacoma was always
the first, you know thing that cannabis was something that
considered to heal. So I was able to convince her
to try cannabis, and it was hard because you know,
she was the main person growing up telling us that
we was a was a gateway drug. And when I
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was able to get her to try it, you know,
I checked on an hour and a half later, and
I went downstairs. She was downstairs reading her Bible, and
you know, and I asked her how she was doing.
She said, I'm healed. She said, it's the first time
I've been able to read my Bible, went over three
and a half years. And for me, that correlation was
just crazy that, you know, from someone like her. And
I always say, like, if my grandmother's not going to heaven,
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we're all going to hell. And you know, for the
first thing that she would do would actually go down
and read her Bible, you know, just spokes volumes to me.
And at that point I started to educate myself. The
end of that season, I actually had a knee surgery
and got a staff infection. I was in the hospital
for you know, ten days. I have, you know, four
surgeries in a week. At some point I thought I
was going to die. But when I was sitting in there,
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obviously I'm taking all this pain medication, and this lady
that I had knew in Colorado came to see me
and she introduced me to CBD and she gave me
all the topicals. She gave me ting Chuirs capsules, and
you know, ever since that day, I haven't taken an aspirind.
I haven't taken an advil. I haven't taken any pharmaceutical
drugs to manage my pain away from the game, and
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you know pretty much desk my story and that's why
I'm here.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
My name is Matt Nordgren. I run a fund called Arcadian.
We do a lot of investing in the industry. I've
been doing that for years. I have been very successful
at it. Also was a former athlete. I was a
backup quarterback my whole career. Didn't have to use a
lot of it for pain, but was around a lot
of guys that did for a long time and really saw.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
A lot of benefit that it did give.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
A lot of athletes.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
In my own personal story, my grandmother had all timers
were able to help her quality of life at the
end of her life. Had a couple of cousins with cancer,
was able to help a quality of their life at
the end of their life. All three of past and
so it feels really good to be in an industry
that you can do good business and feel good about
the business that you're doing every day.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Hi everyone, my name is Eliza Moroni. I am the
co founder of Lucky Box Club, a cannabis subscription service
here in California, and I'm also known as the Cannabis Yogi.
So I've launched a brand that infuses yoga classes with
cannabis in various different ways. Every attendee receives a lucky box,
one of our boxes, and they get to learn about
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new brands and products in the process before, during, and
after their classes. It gives people a really warm, intimate
space to experiment with new products and to learn about
the different ways of using cannabis and CBD as well.
We have CBD only boxes. And I am in this
because I, just like everyone else I think in this room,
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have been profoundly moved by this amazing, incredible plant in
many different ways. So my history does stem back to
being a cultivator and going from cultivation into retail and
really understanding the entire plant process, and I'm really proud
of that. I am not a professional athlete. I'm the
only one on this stage right now, but I do
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have a lot of insight in how cannabis can enhance
performance and it can also help people to heal after
post work out and games, I would imagine, So thank.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
You, Nick Moody.
Speaker 10 (13:04):
I actually recently just retired from the NFL primary leaders.
Why I'm here and focused on this industry. I played
for the forty nine ers, that's who drafted me, kind
of my introduction to the industry firsthand, and then then
the Seahawks and the Redskins. We got a company started
a couple of years ago, initially my dad and a
couple of partners. We're switching over from a grow to
a manufacturing facility. So that's what our primary focus is
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right now. And the reason I'm really big on marijuana
is just not just me as my family, we as
a whole. We believe like in the benefits of it,
not just physically, but like your mental well being. And
with my history on football is I mean, I played
linebacker and free safety at Florida State and then in
the league, so I've had plenty of injuries, dislocated shoulders,
broken bones, concussions, disk issues, arthritis, so I've had pretty
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much just about anything you can imagine. So my thing
is like the benefits of the just the plan itself.
Them wanting to restrict us from being able to use
it and prescribe as opiates, that's a big contradiction in
my opinion, and that's what I'm kind of getting into
more so now, is the advocacy for that and that
and the wellness and the THAC and the CPD as well.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I wanted to say, it must feel good to be
able to come out of the closet of cannabis and
not have the NFL breathing down your neck.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
That was huge because personally from my experience, I was
a guy that was actually in the drug program. So
I got put in there for two years, and I
put in there well, I failed the test, and then
I was placed in there. I was tested twice a
week every week, so up to eight times a month.
They would come six in the morning, three in the
afternoon Saturday mornings, ask you where you are.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
You got to give them a log at your travel.
Speaker 10 (14:36):
So I actually had family members and friends that have
actually been on probas and they had less restrictions than
I did. But just being in that process and seeing
other guys go through that process, and then you actually
kind of really realize how much cannabis does help you
in terms of your injury and the stress and like
dealing with the stress of being a pro athlete. The
family demands and all that stuff. And then when you
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had that taken from you, when you're somebody actually relies
on that, you don't even allowed you to rely on it,
but it does really help you. You kind of see
like the negative outcome of that. Sometimes you'll be in
certain situations and we wouldn't even have been in that
when if you were allowed to still be able to
use cannabis. I've seen different guys getting the situations when
they're in the DR program where they started doing things
they would never they normally do, and they were just
like completely different people. And honestly, I think that with
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the NFL program they kind of do more detriment than
they do good when they restrict us and then trying
to tell you what to do and this is how
you need to act, and you got to follow these
rules and you can't act like everybody else, even though
you're a know a person, but you got to act
this certain way. Meanwhile, some of the guys that give
right in the checks, they do some of the wildest
stuff you can imagine.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Let's give them a huge round of applause for being branded.
They are the front lines of this movement. And so
these guys that are gonna help us legalize that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, they're at the front line and they all share
a common mission to change the conversation and make cannabis
accessible for athletes who need it. Conversation around cannabis and
professional sports, it's evolving, but some say not fast enough.
Athletes put their bodies on the line, facing pain, injuries,
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and long term health consequences, yet they're there are still
pushed toward opioids, anti inflammatories, and other pharmaceuticals while being
penalized for choosing a natural alternative. I'm happy to say
since that panel four years ago, major professional sports leagues
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in the US have significantly updated their cannabis policies. Cannabis
it's becoming well as mainstream as condiments in your favorite
Super Bowl food. The NBA, in the lightest seven year
collective bargaining agreement that became effective in July twenty twenty three,
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the NBA removed marijuana from its list of banned substances.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Players are no longer subjected to random cannabis testing, and
they're permitted to invest in cannabis related businesses now. The
NFL has relaxed its cannabis policies by increasing the THC
threshold for a positive test. Last I heard, it was
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decreased from one hundred and fifty to three hundred and
fifty nanograms per mil. Leader players are no longer suspended
solely for positive cannabis tests, and instead fines are imposed,
as with amounts decreasing for subsequent violations. The NHL continues
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to test for cannabis BOO, but it is not classified
as a banned subse since which is a big AA.
Players who test positive are not penalized, but maybe offered
entry into the league's substance Abuse and Behavioral Health program
if THC levels are notably high. Participation in that program
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is purely voluntary. You know, these changes reflect a growing
acceptance of cannabis and professional sports acknowledging its potential benefits
for player health and well being. So Super Bowl Sunday,
it's coming, and I have a little Super Bowl in
cannabis trivia.
Speaker 11 (18:36):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Who knows? Did you know that legendary NFL coach Bill
Belichick once drafted a player who openly admitted to smoking
weed before every game in college? Do you know how
that was? Think about it? That player was Ricky Williams,
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a Heisman winning running back who later became one of
the most outspoken advocates for One of the most outspoken
advocates for cannabis in professional sports, Williams, who was suspended
multiple times for cannabis use in the NFL. He eventually
left football to study holistic medicine. He later co founded Heisman,
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a cannabis lifestyle brand for athletes, proving that cannabis and
sports do not have to be at odds. They can
be a game changer for recovery and wellness. Fun fact,
the NFL stance on cannabis has evolved since Ricky's playing days.
As of twenty twenty one, players no longer face suspensions
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for positive THHC tests, and the threshold for a positive
test was raised fourfold. Progress Right, Well, you know what
it is twenty minutes into the show, and twenty minutes
into the show where we're coming to you from means
(20:10):
we're coming up bound four to twenty ozho clock in
Low Melnda, California, and that means it's time for today's
quick hit. Today we're shining a spotlight on the science.
Doctor David Berman, one of the leading voices in cannabinoid medicine.
His book, The History of Cannabis's Medicine takes readers on
(20:30):
a deep dive into the plant's long standing role in
healing throughout history. And now let's get smarter with today's
quicket by doctor David Berman himself in this exclusive quick
hit clip.
Speaker 12 (20:55):
Things are changing in the cannabis space, but what we've
experienced are more individuals, especially our seniors, coming to us
for different types of disorder and wanting to know more
about cannabinoid therapy.
Speaker 13 (21:08):
In the work that we do.
Speaker 12 (21:09):
We've been blessed to have doctor David Bharman as our
Director of Medicine, who has an extensive history in cannabis
as medicine as well as the history of cannabis.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
This is a five hundred page book that frames cannabis
in the history of the use of psychoactive drugs or
spirituality for healing, for commerce, and the drug policy we
have used to marginalize discriminated against people ever since sop
inoson the sixth declared that cannabis was a tool of
the devil in the fifteenth century, and he did that
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because it helped believe the pain of childbirths from women
and we know that they have that pain because of
eve sin. The list goes on and on about the
way in which we in this country as well as
around the world, have used drug policy to marginalize people.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Last third of this book really talks about cannabis in
contemporary times and its use as a medicine. And the
last chapter talks about if we were really serious about
doing something about substance abuse, what we would do. This
is a new book that's going to be coming out
October twenty eighteen that is started design for nurses and doctors,
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and I hope it'll be used as a textbook, and
it covers a lot of the science related to cannabis,
cannabinoids in the endocannabinoid system. It's got a lot of
science in it, but most of it is readable and understandable.
The American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine is there to certify
those cannabinoid medicine specialists to a practicing good quality medicine.
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We want to marginalize those doctors like the doc in
Venice Beach who has the gallon the bikini out in
front saying evaluation is thirty nine to ninety five cannabis
is a real medicine. It deserves more respective.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
If you read the Doctor's book. He gave me a
copy last year, it's one of the most definitive sources
on history. I didn't know cannabis had people vilifying it.
I thought that started with reefer madness in the thirties.
I didn't know it went all the way back.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
And well, now, for any of the viewers that want
to buy your book, is it available online for churchase?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You can get it on Amazon, And I really appreciate
you give me the opportunity to bring these to the
attention of your audience.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's right, cannabis is a medicine. Well, stay tuned because
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Welcome back. You're listening to Just Say No on CASEAA
Radios ten fifty AM one oh six point five FM.
I'm your host, Maria Calibresee, and I have to say
before the commercial break, I teased an exclusive interview I
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had with John Sally and uh it's it's it's time
to dive into the game changing conversation around cannabis and
professional sports. Sally played for the Detroit Pistons from nineteen
eighty six to nineteen ninety two, Miami Heat ninety two
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to ninety five, the Toronto Raptors ninety five and ninety six,
the Chicago Bills in ninety six, and yes, the La
Lakers in nineteen ninety nine. In two thousand. He won
NBA championships with three different teams, the Detroit Pistons in
eighty nine and ninety, Chicago Bulls in ninety six, and
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the Los Angeles Lakers in two thousand, making him the
first player in NBA history to win titles with three
different franchises. Well Lait is over. John is not only
a four time NBA champion, but also a passionate advocate
for plant based wellness. It caught up with him in
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Los Angeles at a HEMP conference held at the Los
Angeles Trade Technical College, which he supports, and he shared
why he turned to cannabis for well being and how
it led him to launch his own brand, dus Is
twenty two. All right, let's get on with this exclusive
Greenbee Life TV interview with HEMP advocate and host Reo.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Oh.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
This is Rico with green by Life and I'm here
with Anthony Macfeeders and John Sally. We're just finishing an
event at the LA Trade Tech with the Industrial Hemp Alliance.
I'm gonna hand it off to Anthony to tell you
more about HAMP Pathways.
Speaker 16 (27:16):
Well, we're launching a pathway series and the into Los
Angeles Trade Tech and we'll we're doing his career focus,
so we want to focus implementing HEMP in everyone's career here,
trying to create entrepreneurs. We have nine pathways here at
Trade Tech, so we're trying to implement HAMP in every
one of them. Also have nine sister colleges and we're
gonna implement HAMPING those pathways as well.
Speaker 13 (27:34):
Explain to me how are you involved with the hemp industrup.
Speaker 17 (27:36):
I have a cannabis company with my daughter called Deuces
twenty two. She's the CEO with pre rolls and gummies
and the sister plant. I'm going to say to the
hemp plant. I literally am involved with a hemp grow
in California. I am a part of Hemp Week and
I own All American Hemp Company. Or when I met
Anthony at Stuff I Eat in Inglewood, we was at
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a vegan restaurant.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Happy to see you there.
Speaker 17 (27:59):
He's living a lifestyle from what he puts in his
body to what he puts on his body to what
he puts out in the world, so I had to
come check it out.
Speaker 13 (28:05):
So it was really interesting.
Speaker 11 (28:06):
You guys met at.
Speaker 17 (28:08):
Where vegan raw restaurant called Stuff I Eat It's on
Market Street in Inglewood. It was there since two thousand
and eight, before the vegan craze took a hold of America.
They were already ten years ahead of themselves. I like
being around that. I drive all the way to Inglewood
to eat. I live out in the valley. I go
in to support the community.
Speaker 13 (28:24):
It's a pretty far drive.
Speaker 17 (28:25):
Got electric car, so I'm not really wasting anything.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
You are very involved in the industry.
Speaker 11 (28:33):
Do you partake?
Speaker 8 (28:34):
I'm about to.
Speaker 17 (28:36):
I was waiting too long for this interview, is why
it's such a straight interview.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
No, I do, I believe so. The history is I.
Speaker 17 (28:46):
Played in the NBA for a long time, and not
until my fifteenth year and a month before I retired
that I smoked cannabis, and I don't ever remember feeling
that good except for winning a championship. And if I
would have been smoking my entire career one, I'd probably
have less children, i would have way more money saved,
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and I'd probably still be playing. Because it's an amazing plant.
I am investigating and finding a thousand ways of dealing
with it. There's two hundred ways of dealing with it
in hemp and just on that form on the medical side,
what it does in the CBD and cbgs and cv ees,
all kind of wxyzs in the letters this plant is
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involved with. And the fact that we're out of prohibition
or heading out of prohibition is a good thing. So
encompassing it all is what I plan on doing.
Speaker 13 (29:42):
That sounds perfect. And you compared it to winning a championship.
That's that's pretty good.
Speaker 17 (29:48):
If you ever smoke the weed we're about to put
out on deuces, you would be winning a championship.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
That's what it feels to be a champion.
Speaker 13 (29:56):
That sounds like a slogan to me.
Speaker 17 (29:57):
It sounds like marketing one one hundred.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
They're trying to do hemp pathways. They're trying to get
more people to get in this industry and educate them
because as we were listening, there's a lack of education.
Would you be interested in, I don't know, having interns
at some point in time in the future from any
of these trade tags that are educating people on hemp
and cannabis and how to process and manufacture and so.
Speaker 17 (30:24):
On, and so with Anthony we had that conversation, but
I'm a capitalist, I'm an American, So you first have
to put it. And the reason I say that is
usually people don't pay attention to anybody unless they've already
done it, unless they have enough money to make a
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mistake doing it. So when you're starting from the same level,
we're gonna bubble up. That's one way of doing it.
But if you want people to involve, you have to
be it. Jay Z wasn't just another rapper. He was
a rapper that made it. Then now when he speaks,
it has some validity to it. If he was just
another rapper, we heard the rhetoric before, but until he's
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gone out did it come back and teach it. That's
when people pay respect. Plus, people pay respect when it
costs something. When it doesn't cost anything, it usually has
no value to him or it's bad for him, like
government cheese that's free all day and that's no.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Good for you government cheese. All right, Anthony, how do
you see these hamp pathways leading the future for trade
techs and well, la and you said he had nine
sister campuses, So how do you see hemp as people
around to get on into the cannabis industry Because it's
a growing market, one hundreds of thousands of potential jobs
in the very near future. Can LA trade Tech be
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the epicenter of well, the education of this new boom.
Speaker 16 (31:53):
The reason why we chose to go into industrial hamp
rather than marijuana or anything like that, we felt that
market was overstrated. We felt that this was a market
that we can jump right in and you know, take
and just grab it and go.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
We believe trade tech would be a.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
Great candidate because we do everything industry of all trades here.
We have nine trades here, so we can implement hamp
in all those trades.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
And then the other sister.
Speaker 16 (32:16):
Colleges like Pierce College as agriculture, LACC has a journalism,
all types of things we can implement hampen.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
And that's what we saw. We saw the future in that.
Speaker 13 (32:25):
So how big do you think the future is?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
The future?
Speaker 16 (32:30):
I mean, it's gonna be like some George jests and
flying cards on hemp ethanol type stuff. You know, that's
what we're looking at. You know what I'm saying. We're
trying to set the standards of this hemp game. That's
what we want to do.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
That'll be dope, that would be dope.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
That would be literally dope. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
You guys met at a vegan restaurants, which is amazing.
I'm a vegetarian, So I give props to both for
you guys, because it's pretty tough out there to like
remain well, it can't be tough. Not tough for you,
but tough for me.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
All right.
Speaker 13 (33:04):
So you guys are obviously into the sustainability mindset. You
see that this world could be better.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Why should people give a hemp?
Speaker 13 (33:13):
Why do you give a hemp?
Speaker 17 (33:14):
The reason I'm vegan is because I am conscious. You
really talk to people who aren't awake. They don't see it.
I stop wasting my breath on the sleeping. As a
conscious person, you have to realize that factory firement is
destroying lives. The mentality is when you're a kid, they
show you all these books on how you love the
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animals and the animals talk, Charlotte's Web, everything, all movies,
but then they feed you chicken right after it, or
they feed you a pig is smarter than a dog. Like,
if you're going to have a house, bet, it should
be a pig. To be honest, one people don't run
up on it. It alerts you that something's going on.
It's a smart animal, but people decide to eat it.
And I think it's crazy that they distinguish cats, dogs,
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certain birds, certain fish get to live, but all the
rest are made for us to live.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 17 (34:05):
The other part is if you don't change your mentality
by eating, not only are destroying lives, you're destroying your life.
The body is a fiber consuming mammal. We are not
supposed to be eating dead decayne caucus, or eating the
mental shyicle of a chicken, or eating the testicles of
bulls and cows. And it just doesn't make any sense
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that those are things that we decided as food. And
being a person of African descent in my community are
a community of people that look like me, we still
eat slave food. So we're still enslaved mentally, one by
the food we eat and two by the way we
were taught. So it's everybody has to make an impression
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on this planet. My impression is to have the least
footprint that I can leave when I leave, and these
are some big feet. But I decided to drive a
green car being electric. I like the hemp ethanol mentality
for those who still want to have cars that deal
with liquid and fumes.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
I'm literally trying to breathe.
Speaker 17 (35:09):
I was in China last year and I didn't see
the sun one time, and I was in a very
nice place. But they are in a country like China
making it a country wide mentality to get rid of
the smog.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
So they're going electric. You heard no scooters.
Speaker 17 (35:25):
You still hel cars, but then pretty soon you'll heal
no cars and then they'll be able to see the sky.
So it's a country behind that. They can call it communists, socialists, whatever,
but the fact that the government is even not there's
problems with it and how to try to get around
it is an impressive thing. So personally, eating vegan means
I care about myself, and to care about myself mean
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I care about the planet and the next thing. So
I don't think anything has to die for me to live.
I'm obviously living well. It shows in my body and
it shows in my mind.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome for sure.
Speaker 13 (35:59):
And I'm going to ask this same question to you, man,
why should people give a hemp?
Speaker 16 (36:04):
Man, you should give a hint because you know the
future relies on it. You know, we're killing our planet
or you know, taking all the oil or taking all
the natural resources. Right now, we can't even use straws
in California because you know, and that all can be
changed to hemp.
Speaker 8 (36:18):
Straw we can do.
Speaker 16 (36:19):
We can do himp biodegrad but plastics, we do anything
with him. And so I feel that, you know, if
you still I know for myself, you know I want
a straw. I don't want to put my lips on
nobody glass in the restaurant.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
That's just me.
Speaker 16 (36:31):
So you know, taking that luxury away because you know
it's killing the environment, and why why not you know,
step intore and step into that product and put.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
The in in there.
Speaker 11 (36:41):
That's for sure.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
I've had the idea of making hamp straws a little
bit harder than than it looks like, but near future
very possible, very possible.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
You know.
Speaker 17 (36:49):
What you can also do is have your own straw
so you can come. They sell them on Amazon. I
don't mean to advertise for Amazon, but we all are
and you can literally they literally fold up. It's pretty slick.
I got one in the car that you do, and
I carry my own bottle of water. I drink the
stilled water. Listen, you you a vegetarian. That means you
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like eggs and cheese, so you're a flesh.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Eater to agree, right.
Speaker 17 (37:21):
So casin is the number one course of cancer is
in cheese. Cholesterol A hundred percent cholesterol is in eggs,
So you're giving yourself high cholesterol and cancer cells. Why
would you do that. I'm in milk, more protein, better
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for you, more feeling. No animals had to die. Flaxeed
eggs beyond uh, follow your hard eggs.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
If you want that funk smell.
Speaker 17 (37:53):
Uh, you can get it or you can get it
there and it would scramble. The deal is, it's it's
really hard to not care about somebody you're when you're
a loving human being. It's really hard to not care
about other people. It's not hard to eat well and
care about other people. So and the benefit is I
just turned fifty five and I'm the same body weight
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that I was when I was twenty five, with the
same libido and sex drive, which most guys can't say,
you go to Vegas right now. They're buying Viagara at
thirty five years old. So it's like this helps you
and your woman or your other mate, whatever, it may
be this helps in all of the ways possible, keeps
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your confidence going. You are able to leave and realize
a wonderful thing you've done for the planet. If you
ever look at a baby calf, you go, oh sweet,
or you look at a little sheet, you go well.
But the funny thing is they don't care about it
when it gets to a certain age. It's just like
certain parts of the government when they talk about pro
life and pro choice. The truth about it is they
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want you at an age where they can use you.
They're not really pro life. They're not really caring about abortion.
They're not They're caring about are we going to have
somebody to make if we keep having abortion. We're not
gonna have enough people paying taxes to pay for this,
and we need them for soldiers, male and female, gay
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and straight.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
That tells you that they only want it for that.
Speaker 17 (39:25):
So when you deal with that pro life, if you
really about pro life, you'll be about pro life like
not just humans, because we're earthlings. Everything on the planet
deserves a right to be here, and everything on the
planet adds to that ecosystem. You go out and see
a whole bunch of cow down and you be like, man,
the cowd's going crazy. That's called fertilizer, right, So you see,
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you get a whole bunch of goats and you go, man,
I don't feel like cutting the grass today. Just let
your coach go out, come back, have no grass. So
everybody does what they do as a human being, the
one who can make things because we got fingers and
thumbs and we can speak at different languages just like animals,
but we could make things. So it means we're not smarter,
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just we have more ingenuity. But doesn't mean they should die.
Speaker 13 (40:12):
There's been a different kind of mentality going on recently.
There's people who've been switching more to vegetarian vegan lifestyles
because they're more aware. This awareness that we're all collectively creating.
It's going on to different like places.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
One of them is hemp. So it was made illegal.
Speaker 13 (40:29):
We went from complete prohibition to now we want to
use it for fifty thousand different products. When do you
see hemp actually becoming widespread acceptance of hemp?
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Well, I think the time is now.
Speaker 16 (40:41):
It's crucial, you know, and it's about educating you, yourself
and the people around you. For example, veganism.
Speaker 8 (40:49):
I got my crew right here. They keep me.
Speaker 16 (40:51):
I got a thing I called do it for Alley.
When I was like I'll be wanting to do something,
I'll be wanting the litter. I'm gonna do this for
Alley Man, I'm not gonna do it, and you know,
because you know they help me out, you know, with
all everything I need to do to be sustainable myself.
And as far as him, you know, like he, like
John said, man, we want people to be alive. You know,
there's so many aspects of this, of this product, for
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example him crete Man, you can have a breathable wall
that filters every all the air that in your house.
You know, you don't have any allergy. You know, we're
in La, a very toxic place that the air here
is horrible, So you want that filtered out of your
house and become your true safe place there so you
can just you know, implement him. There's so many benefits
that we just have to take advantage of it, especially
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eating him. You got all your O magas, all your proteins,
and it's just amazing.
Speaker 13 (41:37):
How long is it gonna take for the rest of
the country to wake up because there's still a lot
of stigma towards this plant. A lot of people don't
even know what it does or the benefits, and they're
scared of it because it might get you a little high.
So when do you think the country as a whole
is gonna get over this stigma?
Speaker 16 (41:52):
Every day I think we gained a little bit. So
you do everything, you walk in, the ways you preach,
and eventually it's gonna just take over. You know, it's
going to be a hemp revolution.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
When do you think this stigma's gonna go away? Because
you've been here for longer, you've been in the industry,
you're in the industry. Are things getting easier? Are things
getting harder?
Speaker 8 (42:12):
What do you feel about that?
Speaker 17 (42:13):
Well, the hemp plant cannot get you high. The cannabis
plant can get you high. The hemp plant cannot get
you high. There's no thac in a hemp plant, especially
the way they're breaking it down. Now there's like I said,
it's a sister plant.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
Two.
Speaker 17 (42:29):
They spent so much money, eighteen hundreds on pushing hemp away,
So we got a hundred years of propaganda to knock down.
I tell people, in nineteen nineteen, prohibition was over, and
to this day people still think I'm gonna take a drink.
It's gonna calm my nerves. Like you hear people say that,
(42:53):
but they don't know why they say that. They think
the drink is calming their nerves when it's really just
debding and brain cells. If you smoke cannabis, it enhances
your body and enhances brain cells, but they used to
say it killed brain cells. Right, So the teaching of
it and the making it as normal or as acceptable
(43:16):
as possible something that we do in the everyday deal,
it's going to be years and years. It took a
long time for people to get over, like separating drinking
fountains and restaurants. I mean this is not not sixty
years ago. Matter of fact, just sixty years ago are
closed right so to this day. So it's it's it
(43:40):
takes time to the fact that he and I, people
of color of African descent, are sitting up here doing
an interview at trade Tech is an amazing thing. So
you know, I don't discount it because I've seen when
it wasn't. I have daughters who I don't not say
take for granted they supposed to. They take it as
that the way it's supposed to be. Right, and not
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black and white. So I think in this world of
hemp one, we have to change the mentality is about
eighty six percent of the people in jail for marijuana
or happen to be of color. We also have to
change what happens when you get cited for having cannabis now,
which is also changed. And we have to take away
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the feeling that stoners are not successful. I prove that
to be totally false.
Speaker 13 (44:26):
All right, So we're talking a lot about sustainability and
awareness and such. There's a lot of companies in the
CBD and hemp market at this point in time that
are kind of sketchy. They're not doing it the right way.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
They are wasting a lot.
Speaker 13 (44:40):
There's pesticide, and there's stuff they're not supposed to be using.
How do you start a hemp company and make it
sustainable so that it's good for the environment and good
for your economy.
Speaker 17 (44:53):
The best thing about hemp is what it can be
toxic ground, and when you put hemp into the toxic ground,
it literally it literally cleans and it makes the soil healthy.
That's a great thing about this plant. The company I
work with, pure Crop one, we have a spray that
literally does not kill insects. It's not a pesticide of herbicide,
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it's an enhancement. It literally canvinces the plant to vibrate
at a higher level. So when you're talking about plants,
greens vibrate, Let's say here and then fruits here. Fruit
are the highest vibrating plants. So like between eleven and two.
I always tell people to eat because that's when you're hybrading,
you're vibrating at your highest level, and so is fruit constantly.
(45:35):
So if I spray it on and I get the
plant to vibrate at a higher level, insects won't eat
it because they believe in the idea of the law
of the universe is the weak are usually the ones
that are consumed. So the plants that are dying is
what the insects usually attack. They don't attack the one
and wait for it to get big. They go they
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pick their fights, so when they see a high vibrating
plant that doesn't kill them, they just stay away from it.
So sustainable because we can grow four times a year,
and it takes one hundred years ago a tree. The
ones you want to the ones that cut down.
Speaker 16 (46:17):
Takes three months to grow a fully grown hand plant.
Speaker 13 (46:21):
One hundred years, for a tree, one hundred days for
a hemp plant.
Speaker 11 (46:29):
Well, it depends.
Speaker 13 (46:30):
Maybe it's for hers, maybe it's for fiver. Depends on
what you're trying to do.
Speaker 8 (46:32):
It depends what you're trying to do.
Speaker 13 (46:34):
When it comes to the future of the industry, you're
going to need to expand and you're going to need
a workforce to help you expand. So how do you
think colleges like LA Trade Tech can help you as
a business owner to expand even faster.
Speaker 17 (46:51):
So a friend of mine started a cannabis costs down
in a school down in Florida. It was HBCU Historical
Black College University. They have a cannabis course. I think
at Trade Tech it would be smart to have cannabis courses.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
Not it just but trading.
Speaker 17 (47:13):
But in the same way you do if you were
going to get into a business a billion of florists.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
This plant is entirely different.
Speaker 17 (47:19):
We got so many things that can come out of it,
one how to sell it, to how to manufacture it
without destroying the integrity of the plant marketing salesforce. The
school can teach a lot of things and I like
that it's in the middle of Los Angeles, and it's diverse.
Speaker 8 (47:41):
It's the most important part of.
Speaker 17 (47:43):
It is the diversity of it of this campus because
this is definitely, as I said, the future.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
This plant is.
Speaker 17 (47:51):
Going to eradicate about five to six diseases in the
next twenty years where we don't hear about them anymore.
That's a lot of money coming out of somebody else's coffers.
So we have to be diligent, we have to be precise,
and we have to be American capital minded not to
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let it slip through our hands, where it's an industry
that we all can be a part of. My daughter
Tyler and I induces twenty two. She decided we don't
have to be grandfather. Then we can be the pioneers.
I just take the arrows instead, but she can still
be the pioneers.
Speaker 8 (48:30):
That's awesome.
Speaker 13 (48:31):
And I'm gonna end it with a question to kind
of everybody. He just talked about a course that's being
offered that's gonna teach people the fundamentals of cannabis. Would
you guys take this course if it was offered here?
Speaker 16 (48:45):
Oh yeah, you couldn't stop Us'd be the first one
signist perfect.
Speaker 13 (48:50):
So let's get this course over here.
Speaker 16 (48:51):
Man, that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 8 (48:54):
That sounds good.
Speaker 11 (48:55):
Sounds good to me.
Speaker 13 (48:56):
I can't wait to see you guys in action.
Speaker 8 (48:59):
Your brand is.
Speaker 13 (48:59):
Called Douce twenty two, right, I'm kind of curious to
the name though. How'd that come about?
Speaker 8 (49:05):
I played in the NBA.
Speaker 17 (49:06):
My basketball number in college was retired number twenty two.
It should be retired in about four NBA places, but
we won't get into that now. So I've always been
my daughter wore my numbers. Deuces has always been my number.
So we came up with a great logo how it looks,
and it was everyone knew what it was. A song
came out about it. That was great, so just it
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being in people's mind. But it's a lifestyle brand and cannabis.
We're gonna only have twenty two skews of cannabis and
the rest goes into every other part. That's one of
the reasons I'm here. Is everything from shoes, the socks,
the pants, the belts, the underwear, the t shirts to sweatshirts,
to suits, to linens inside your car, linens on your bed,
(49:51):
every single every single piece hats. It's all, it's all
going gonna be him or some form and some breakdown
of him. He even hooked me up somebody. Uh So
that's mainly what it is. And you can check it
out at Deuces twenty two dot Cannabis on Instagram, Orduces
twenty two dot com perfect.
Speaker 13 (50:09):
Got to check that out for sure, got to check
that out. And what about Industrial Hemp Alliance? Man, how
do we get in contact? If someone wants to become
a chapter in their college, how would they go about that?
Speaker 8 (50:21):
Man? Reach out to us.
Speaker 16 (50:22):
We'll be more than happy to come and put a
workshop at your college, will come and help you get established.
We'll do you anything well. Our job is to provide
you with every research you need to become successful. So
anything you need come to us would work our best
and we'll get that for you. And if you want
to reach out to us, you can hit us up
at IHA Hemp at gmail dot com. We also have
(50:42):
Lehigh Hemp on Instagram and mister Cannabis at Instagram, Instagram about.
Speaker 13 (50:49):
To say, mister cannabis for sure?
Speaker 8 (50:52):
Man?
Speaker 13 (50:53):
All right, so, Industrial Hemp Alliance, Deuces twenty two, Greenbee Life,
It's been a good talk. Thank you, guys for sure,
Yay you have.
Speaker 11 (51:06):
Have hooray hemp.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Hemp pay for sure. Isn't that fantastic? John Sally, former
NBA basketball champion, cannabis advocate, entrepreneur, veterinarian, veterinarian, well might
as well be vegetarian, healthy lifestyle, healthy sustainable lifestyle supporting
(51:46):
the Los Angeles Trade Technical College. While the LA t
TC doesn't yet offer a formal academic program specifically dedicated
to industrial hemp, what I love is the college is
commitment to hemp related initiatives through student led organizations and events,
(52:08):
and a shout out to the Industrial Hemp Alliance The
ih IHA Industrial Hemp Alliance IHA founded by two incredible
young women students, Abigail and Noami Kuovas, and to Anthony
Anthony McAfee, who was also interviewed during that panel and
(52:34):
who is the huge tour de force with the International
Hemp Alliance. Working with Alan Abigail and no Ami Kuevez,
they've been very active in promoting the hemp industry within
the campus community. The International Hemp Alliances organized educational workshops,
(52:57):
cooking demonstrations, and even the Hemp Fashion Show to raise
awareness about the diverse applications of hemp and hosted the
panel that attracted John Sally. He heard about it and
attended it a true, true MVP. But so if you're
(53:19):
in Los Angeles, yeah, you want to support and check
out that International Hemp Alliance. But also in Los Angeles,
I just want to mention several other colleges and universities
actually across the entire country that have integrated hemp related
studies into their curricula. It reflects the growing interest in
(53:41):
hemp cultivation and processing and its various applications, and some
call it the the Super Bowl, different kind of bowl
of weed. So University of California Riverside, they have a
Cannabis Studies Certificate program at u SEE Riverside. It's a
(54:05):
twenty four week online course covering various aspects of the
cannabis industry, including the agriculture and horticulture. They're not exclusively
focused on hemp, but the program encompasses the hemp relevant
agricultural practices. They also have Cornell University. They have a
(54:25):
hemp program and it offers a webinar series featuring experts
discussing topics including he cultivation, processing, and genetics. Theyse webinars
provide valuable insights into the latest developments in hemp research
and industry practices. Saint Louis Community College, they offer a
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Certificate of Specialization in Cannabis and Hemp Production program educates
students on the specialized processes necessary to grow, manage, and
cultivate cannabis and hemp plants in accordance with their state
and federal law. Murray State University, they've positioned themselves as
(55:06):
a national leader in agricultural hemp development, focusing on research, education, policy,
and innovation within the hemp industry. And Vermont State University,
their Cannabis Studies Certificate program offers a twelve credit interdisciplinary
program exploring the various dimensions of cannabis, including its historical, cultural, economic, political, legal, medicinal,
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and spiritual aspects aspects. It's a multifaceted plant, folks, and
that their program also includes cultivation of cannabis commercial development
of industrial hemp. So hey, these programs they reflect and
validate the increasing recognition of cannabis and hemp significance in agriculture,
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next workforce. They need to have the knowledge and skills
to engage in this evolving field. So stay tuned. As
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All right, I'm your host, Maria Calabery's and today we've
been discussing cannabis and sports from the professional athletes, working
conversations to help everyone rethink cannabis as a treatment option
and as an agricultural crop, and even down to what's
in their Super Bowl buffalo wing condiments. So as we
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wrap up today's conversation, one thing is clear. Cannabis and
sports are becoming more intertwined than ever. While the NFL
has taking steps toward updating its cannabis policies, share it
still lags behind leagues like the NBA, which have fully
removed marijuana from their banned substances list. Athletes, scientists, and
(58:16):
advocates continue to push for change, recognizing cannabis as a
legitimate tool for recovery. And speaking of football, we can't
close out without mentioning the biggest game of the year,
Super Ball is just days away. Whether you're in it
for the game, the commercials, the halftime show are just
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the infused condiment snacks. It's a cultural phenomenon that brings
people together. But here's a fun fact. Did you know
that Las Vegas, the host of this year's Super Bowl,
is home to some of the largest dispensaries in the country.
Cannabis lounges are going to part of the Vegas experience,
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making this the first Super Bowl played in a city
where cannabis consumption is fully legal and socially accept it.
You know, the cannabis industry as a whole is breaking
into mainstream spaces, from major sporting events to cultural celebrations
complete with infused pizza and dipping sauces. The Super Bowl
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and even holidays are presenting new opportunities for normalization, education,
and engagement with a wider audience. Raises an interesting question.
Will we see cannabis brands make their way into Super
Bowl advertising in the near future with the mainstream acceptance
growing and might not be long before a cannabis company
lands a coveted Super Bowl ad spot. Imagine a halftime
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their wellness routine, where witnessing history and the making and
these conversations matter whether you're a fan, an athlete, or
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(01:02):
and NHL. With numbers like that, it's clear cannabis isn't
just in the game, it's changing the playbook. Hey, everybody
ready for Sunday, the Super Bowl? Super Bowl Sunday? Okay,
got your bets in? Well, much like the Super Bowl,
cannabis brings people together, and this year it's making it's
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mark on one of the biggest events in sports. From
exclusive brand activations and collaborations with NFL legends to infuse
game day condiments. Cannabis is officially part of the lineup
Mink Cannabis, for example, in Arizona, they told me that
(01:47):
they've already received over two hundred Super Bowl pre orders
for infused pizzas, sandwiches, tacos, and sides, some packing up
to a undred milligrams of THC for recreational consumers. Wow
Wow Wow, Cresco Labs, Good News Cannabis. They're spicing up
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the Super Bowl celebrations with THC infused buffalo and Asian
barbecue wing sauces. Yes, condiments are back in select states.
Stores and bikel is bringing their Volcano vaporizer. By the way, guys, Wow,
dry herb vaporizing versus smoking. That will definitely be an episode.
(02:37):
But Stores and bikel has one of the best dry
herb vaporizers, desktop and portable, but the Volcano vaporizer. They're
bringing it to Bourbon Street for an activation at the
Sports Illustrated Party at Mardi Gras World, where if you're
lucky enough to be going to that, you can take
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Delta nine flower hits just steps away from the Super
Bowl kickoff. But let's face it, cannabis still raises a
lot of questions. Are hamp and marijuana the same? Will
CBD get me high? Can I get the benefits without smoking?
We'll interfere with my meds. Where do I even start?
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So why not ask the pros who are putting cannabis
into their playbooks. Today I'm bringing you exclusive insights from
former NBA stars Al Harrington and John Sally, former NFL
pros Matt Lungren and Nick Moody, and the cannabis Yogi,
Eliza Moroni. So sit back, relax, and let's dive into
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how sports are reshaping the cannabis world, one game changing
move at a time.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrill Lynch estimate
that will grow to thirty five billion dollars. Many experts
believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars each
and every year.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I just wanted, I want to say, word up the SCO.
I can see so much, your mollser, your mo loser.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I'm a butterfly who is gonna be gun. Taking me
a while to get it. Had to live and cry.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
To appreciate your life and what you give his words
when you're holding me here, when you hold me so
close someone better and under your skin.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I want to leave a mark so that I can
be sure that you.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Member wise, we've seen cannabis make its way into mainstream
sports culture, but for many professional athletes, it's more than
just a trend. It's a necessity. Injuries, chronic pain, and
post career health struggles have led many former pros to
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turn to cannabis not only for personal relief, but as
a business opportunity to help others. A few years ago,
at the State of Cannabis conference on the historic Queen
Mary in Long Beach, California, I attended a panel of
athletes who are now industry leaders at the front lines
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of the legal cannabis movement. Al Harrington, former NBA player
and founder of Viola, a premium cannabis brand dedicated to
social equity and top shelf products. He was among the panel.
Matt Nordgren, former backup quarterback and managing partner at Arcadian Capital.
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He started a fund investing in entrepreneurs shaping the future
of cannabis. I like this fund because Arcadian believes that
wellness enables wealth when we unlock our full physical, mental,
and social wellbeing potential. Eliza Maroney, the cannabis yogi and
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founder of benden Blaze Yoga, also attended. Bendam Blaze focuses
on how cannabis combined with yoga can enhance performance and
help heal after post workout recovery. Morony is also the
founder of the Lucky Box Club, a premier California cannabis
delivery service, and Nick Moody, former NFL player turned cannabis entrepreneur,
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now runs a cultivation and manufacturing operation. Moody knows the
struggle firsthand. As a former San Francisco for forty nine
Ers Go forty nine Ers linebacker, he played through injuries,
battling the NFL's drug policies as much as the opposing
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team's running backs, tight ends, quarterbacks, and offensive linemen each
out to block, guard, and tackle. For him, cannabis wasn't
a crutch. It was a tool. It helped with focus,
pain management, and post game recovery. But while the league
turned a blind eye to opioid culture, came down hard
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on THCHC, slapping players with fine suspensions and constant surveillance.
Moody's experience isn't unique many former pros beyond those participating
on the panel that I attended, they're speaking out. They're
speaking about about the speaking out about the unfair policies
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and double standards in sports. Let's have a listen to
an excerpt from the panel is each shared why they
made the lead from sports to cannabis entrepreneurship and why
they believe athlete to deserve access to cannabis for recovery
and wellness.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
All right, so welcome to our pro Athletes and Cannabis panel.
This is also for anybody that's an athlete, whether you're
eighty years old and you go for a walk in
the evening, if you're a runner, you like to swim, whatever.
Anybody can use cannabis within athletics. So we're quite lucky
to have these high end professional athletes up here with us.
I'm going to start off by letting our panelists, starting
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with Al here, introduce themselves.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Well, how you doing. My name is Al Harrington, former
NBA player. I played seventeen years professional basketball from ours,
New Jersey now RASI here in Los Angeles, So the
war on drugs was really real. Grew up, I either
seen people getting locked up or I was always taught
to believe that cannabis or marijuana at the time, or
refa how people used to talk about it where I'm from,
was a gateway drug. So throughout my whole life, especially
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me going to the NBA out of high school, I
was always afraid of cannabis. And when I got into
the NBA, that was the first time that I saw actually,
like you know, top notch players actually using cannabis. But
at the time, I still didn't understand it. It still didn't
make sense to me, and I looked down on my
teammates that used cannabis. But in twenty eleven, my grandmother
had come to see me play when I was playing
for the Denver Nuggets, and Denver is obviously one of
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the first markets to you know, have medical program and
she suffered from glaucoma, and you know, glacoma was always
the first, you know thing that cannabis was something that
considered to heal. So I was able to convince her
to try cannabis, and it was hard because you know,
she was the main person growing up telling us that
we was a was a gateway drug. And when I
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was able to get her to try it, you know,
I checked on an hour and a half later, and
I went downstairs. She was downstairs reading her Bible, and
you know, and I asked her how she was doing.
She said, I'm healed. She said, it's the first time
I've been able to read my Bible, went over three
and a half years. And for me, that correlation was
just crazy that, you know, from someone like her. And
I always say, like, if my grandmother's not going to heaven,
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we're all going to hell. And you know, for the
first thing that she would do would actually go down
and read her Bible, you know, just spokes volumes to me.
And at that point I started to educate myself. The
end of that season, I actually had a knee surgery
and got a staff infection. I was in the hospital
for you know, ten days. I have, you know, four
surgeries in a week. At some point I thought I
was going to die. But when I was sitting in there,
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obviously I'm taking all this pain medication, and this lady
that I had knew in Colorado came to see me
and she introduced me to CBD and she gave me
all the topicals. She gave me ting Chuirs capsules, and
you know, ever since that day, I haven't taken an aspirind.
I haven't taken an advil. I haven't taken any pharmaceutical
drugs to manage my pain away from the game, and
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you know pretty much desk my story and that's why
I'm here.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
My name is Matt Nordgren. I run a fund called Arcadian.
We do a lot of investing in the industry. I've
been doing that for years. I have been very successful
at it. Also was a former athlete. I was a
backup quarterback my whole career. Didn't have to use a
lot of it for pain, but was around a lot
of guys that did for a long time and really saw.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
A lot of benefit that it did give.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
A lot of athletes.
Speaker 7 (11:25):
In my own personal story, my grandmother had all timers
were able to help her quality of life at the
end of her life. Had a couple of cousins with cancer,
was able to help a quality of their life at
the end of their life. All three of past and
so it feels really good to be in an industry
that you can do good business and feel good about
the business that you're doing every day.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
Hi everyone, my name is Eliza Moroni. I am the
co founder of Lucky Box Club, a cannabis subscription service
here in California, and I'm also known as the Cannabis Yogi.
So I've launched a brand that infuses yoga classes with
cannabis in various different ways. Every attendee receives a lucky box,
one of our boxes, and they get to learn about
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new brands and products in the process before, during, and
after their classes. It gives people a really warm, intimate
space to experiment with new products and to learn about
the different ways of using cannabis and CBD as well.
We have CBD only boxes. And I am in this
because I, just like everyone else I think in this room,
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have been profoundly moved by this amazing, incredible plant in
many different ways. So my history does stem back to
being a cultivator and going from cultivation into retail and
really understanding the entire plant process, and I'm really proud
of that. I am not a professional athlete. I'm the
only one on this stage right now, but I do
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have a lot of insight in how cannabis can enhance
performance and it can also help people to heal after
post work out and games, I would imagine, So thank.
Speaker 8 (13:03):
You, Nick Moody.
Speaker 10 (13:04):
I actually recently just retired from the NFL primary leaders.
Why I'm here and focused on this industry. I played
for the forty nine ers, that's who drafted me, kind
of my introduction to the industry firsthand, and then then
the Seahawks and the Redskins. We got a company started
a couple of years ago, initially my dad and a
couple of partners. We're switching over from a grow to
a manufacturing facility. So that's what our primary focus is
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right now. And the reason I'm really big on marijuana
is just not just me as my family, we as
a whole. We believe like in the benefits of it,
not just physically, but like your mental well being. And
with my history on football is I mean, I played
linebacker and free safety at Florida State and then in
the league, so I've had plenty of injuries, dislocated shoulders,
broken bones, concussions, disk issues, arthritis, so I've had pretty
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much just about anything you can imagine. So my thing
is like the benefits of the just the plan itself.
Them wanting to restrict us from being able to use
it and prescribe as opiates, that's a big contradiction in
my opinion, and that's what I'm kind of getting into
more so now, is the advocacy for that and that
and the wellness and the THAC and the CPD as well.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
So that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
I wanted to say, it must feel good to be
able to come out of the closet of cannabis and
not have the NFL breathing down your neck.
Speaker 10 (14:16):
That was huge because personally from my experience, I was
a guy that was actually in the drug program. So
I got put in there for two years, and I
put in there well, I failed the test, and then
I was placed in there. I was tested twice a
week every week, so up to eight times a month.
They would come six in the morning, three in the
afternoon Saturday mornings, ask you where you are.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
You got to give them a log at your travel.
Speaker 10 (14:36):
So I actually had family members and friends that have
actually been on probas and they had less restrictions than
I did. But just being in that process and seeing
other guys go through that process, and then you actually
kind of really realize how much cannabis does help you
in terms of your injury and the stress and like
dealing with the stress of being a pro athlete. The
family demands and all that stuff. And then when you
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had that taken from you, when you're somebody actually relies
on that, you don't even allowed you to rely on it,
but it does really help you. You kind of see
like the negative outcome of that. Sometimes you'll be in
certain situations and we wouldn't even have been in that
when if you were allowed to still be able to
use cannabis. I've seen different guys getting the situations when
they're in the DR program where they started doing things
they would never they normally do, and they were just
like completely different people. And honestly, I think that with
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the NFL program they kind of do more detriment than
they do good when they restrict us and then trying
to tell you what to do and this is how
you need to act, and you got to follow these
rules and you can't act like everybody else, even though
you're a know a person, but you got to act
this certain way. Meanwhile, some of the guys that give
right in the checks, they do some of the wildest
stuff you can imagine.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
Let's give them a huge round of applause for being branded.
They are the front lines of this movement. And so
these guys that are gonna help us legalize that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, they're at the front line and they all share
a common mission to change the conversation and make cannabis
accessible for athletes who need it. Conversation around cannabis and
professional sports, it's evolving, but some say not fast enough.
Athletes put their bodies on the line, facing pain, injuries,
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and long term health consequences, yet they're there are still
pushed toward opioids, anti inflammatories, and other pharmaceuticals while being
penalized for choosing a natural alternative. I'm happy to say
since that panel four years ago, major professional sports leagues
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in the US have significantly updated their cannabis policies. Cannabis
it's becoming well as mainstream as condiments in your favorite
Super Bowl food. The NBA, in the lightest seven year
collective bargaining agreement that became effective in July twenty twenty three,
(17:04):
the NBA removed marijuana from its list of banned substances.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Players are no longer subjected to random cannabis testing, and
they're permitted to invest in cannabis related businesses now. The
NFL has relaxed its cannabis policies by increasing the THC
threshold for a positive test. Last I heard, it was
(17:32):
decreased from one hundred and fifty to three hundred and
fifty nanograms per mil. Leader players are no longer suspended
solely for positive cannabis tests, and instead fines are imposed,
as with amounts decreasing for subsequent violations. The NHL continues
(17:54):
to test for cannabis BOO, but it is not classified
as a banned subse since which is a big AA.
Players who test positive are not penalized, but maybe offered
entry into the league's substance Abuse and Behavioral Health program
if THC levels are notably high. Participation in that program
(18:17):
is purely voluntary. You know, these changes reflect a growing
acceptance of cannabis and professional sports acknowledging its potential benefits
for player health and well being. So Super Bowl Sunday,
it's coming, and I have a little Super Bowl in
cannabis trivia.
Speaker 11 (18:36):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Who knows? Did you know that legendary NFL coach Bill
Belichick once drafted a player who openly admitted to smoking
weed before every game in college? Do you know how
that was? Think about it? That player was Ricky Williams,
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a Heisman winning running back who later became one of
the most outspoken advocates for One of the most outspoken
advocates for cannabis in professional sports, Williams, who was suspended
multiple times for cannabis use in the NFL. He eventually
left football to study holistic medicine. He later co founded Heisman,
(19:24):
a cannabis lifestyle brand for athletes, proving that cannabis and
sports do not have to be at odds. They can
be a game changer for recovery and wellness. Fun fact,
the NFL stance on cannabis has evolved since Ricky's playing days.
As of twenty twenty one, players no longer face suspensions
(19:47):
for positive THHC tests, and the threshold for a positive
test was raised fourfold. Progress Right, Well, you know what
it is twenty minutes into the show, and twenty minutes
into the show where we're coming to you from means
(20:10):
we're coming up bound four to twenty ozho clock in
Low Melnda, California, and that means it's time for today's
quick hit. Today we're shining a spotlight on the science.
Doctor David Berman, one of the leading voices in cannabinoid medicine.
His book, The History of Cannabis's Medicine takes readers on
(20:30):
a deep dive into the plant's long standing role in
healing throughout history. And now let's get smarter with today's
quicket by doctor David Berman himself in this exclusive quick
hit clip.
Speaker 12 (20:55):
Things are changing in the cannabis space, but what we've
experienced are more individuals, especially our seniors, coming to us
for different types of disorder and wanting to know more
about cannabinoid therapy.
Speaker 13 (21:08):
In the work that we do.
Speaker 12 (21:09):
We've been blessed to have doctor David Bharman as our
Director of Medicine, who has an extensive history in cannabis
as medicine as well as the history of cannabis.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
This is a five hundred page book that frames cannabis
in the history of the use of psychoactive drugs or
spirituality for healing, for commerce, and the drug policy we
have used to marginalize discriminated against people ever since sop
inoson the sixth declared that cannabis was a tool of
the devil in the fifteenth century, and he did that
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because it helped believe the pain of childbirths from women
and we know that they have that pain because of
eve sin. The list goes on and on about the
way in which we in this country as well as
around the world, have used drug policy to marginalize people.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
And then the.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Last third of this book really talks about cannabis in
contemporary times and its use as a medicine. And the
last chapter talks about if we were really serious about
doing something about substance abuse, what we would do. This
is a new book that's going to be coming out
October twenty eighteen that is started design for nurses and doctors,
(22:19):
and I hope it'll be used as a textbook, and
it covers a lot of the science related to cannabis,
cannabinoids in the endocannabinoid system. It's got a lot of
science in it, but most of it is readable and understandable.
The American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine is there to certify
those cannabinoid medicine specialists to a practicing good quality medicine.
(22:39):
We want to marginalize those doctors like the doc in
Venice Beach who has the gallon the bikini out in
front saying evaluation is thirty nine to ninety five cannabis
is a real medicine. It deserves more respective.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
If you read the Doctor's book. He gave me a
copy last year, it's one of the most definitive sources
on history. I didn't know cannabis had people vilifying it.
I thought that started with reefer madness in the thirties.
I didn't know it went all the way back.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
And well, now, for any of the viewers that want
to buy your book, is it available online for churchase?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You can get it on Amazon, And I really appreciate
you give me the opportunity to bring these to the
attention of your audience.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's right, cannabis is a medicine. Well, stay tuned because
after a quick word from our sponsor, I'm going to
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before the commercial break, I teased an exclusive interview I
(25:27):
had with John Sally and uh it's it's it's time
to dive into the game changing conversation around cannabis and
professional sports. Sally played for the Detroit Pistons from nineteen
eighty six to nineteen ninety two, Miami Heat ninety two
(25:49):
to ninety five, the Toronto Raptors ninety five and ninety six,
the Chicago Bills in ninety six, and yes, the La
Lakers in nineteen ninety nine. In two thousand. He won
NBA championships with three different teams, the Detroit Pistons in
eighty nine and ninety, Chicago Bulls in ninety six, and
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the Los Angeles Lakers in two thousand, making him the
first player in NBA history to win titles with three
different franchises. Well Lait is over. John is not only
a four time NBA champion, but also a passionate advocate
for plant based wellness. It caught up with him in
(26:33):
Los Angeles at a HEMP conference held at the Los
Angeles Trade Technical College, which he supports, and he shared
why he turned to cannabis for well being and how
it led him to launch his own brand, dus Is
twenty two. All right, let's get on with this exclusive
Greenbee Life TV interview with HEMP advocate and host Reo.
Speaker 11 (27:00):
Oh.
Speaker 13 (27:06):
This is Rico with green by Life and I'm here
with Anthony Macfeeders and John Sally. We're just finishing an
event at the LA Trade Tech with the Industrial Hemp Alliance.
I'm gonna hand it off to Anthony to tell you
more about HAMP Pathways.
Speaker 16 (27:16):
Well, we're launching a pathway series and the into Los
Angeles Trade Tech and we'll we're doing his career focus,
so we want to focus implementing HEMP in everyone's career here,
trying to create entrepreneurs. We have nine pathways here at
Trade Tech, so we're trying to implement HAMP in every
one of them. Also have nine sister colleges and we're
gonna implement HAMPING those pathways as well.
Speaker 13 (27:34):
Explain to me how are you involved with the hemp industrup.
Speaker 17 (27:36):
I have a cannabis company with my daughter called Deuces
twenty two. She's the CEO with pre rolls and gummies
and the sister plant. I'm going to say to the
hemp plant. I literally am involved with a hemp grow
in California. I am a part of Hemp Week and
I own All American Hemp Company. Or when I met
Anthony at Stuff I Eat in Inglewood, we was at
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a vegan restaurant.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Happy to see you there.
Speaker 17 (27:59):
He's living a lifestyle from what he puts in his
body to what he puts on his body to what
he puts out in the world, so I had to
come check it out.
Speaker 13 (28:05):
So it was really interesting.
Speaker 11 (28:06):
You guys met at.
Speaker 17 (28:08):
Where vegan raw restaurant called Stuff I Eat It's on
Market Street in Inglewood. It was there since two thousand
and eight, before the vegan craze took a hold of America.
They were already ten years ahead of themselves. I like
being around that. I drive all the way to Inglewood
to eat. I live out in the valley. I go
in to support the community.
Speaker 13 (28:24):
It's a pretty far drive.
Speaker 17 (28:25):
Got electric car, so I'm not really wasting anything.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
That's the way to go.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
You are very involved in the industry.
Speaker 11 (28:33):
Do you partake?
Speaker 8 (28:34):
I'm about to.
Speaker 17 (28:36):
I was waiting too long for this interview, is why
it's such a straight interview.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
No, I do, I believe so. The history is I.
Speaker 17 (28:46):
Played in the NBA for a long time, and not
until my fifteenth year and a month before I retired
that I smoked cannabis, and I don't ever remember feeling
that good except for winning a championship. And if I
would have been smoking my entire career one, I'd probably
have less children, i would have way more money saved,
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and I'd probably still be playing. Because it's an amazing plant.
I am investigating and finding a thousand ways of dealing
with it. There's two hundred ways of dealing with it
in hemp and just on that form on the medical side,
what it does in the CBD and cbgs and cv ees,
all kind of wxyzs in the letters this plant is
(29:33):
involved with. And the fact that we're out of prohibition
or heading out of prohibition is a good thing. So
encompassing it all is what I plan on doing.
Speaker 13 (29:42):
That sounds perfect. And you compared it to winning a championship.
That's that's pretty good.
Speaker 17 (29:48):
If you ever smoke the weed we're about to put
out on deuces, you would be winning a championship.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
That's what it feels to be a champion.
Speaker 13 (29:56):
That sounds like a slogan to me.
Speaker 17 (29:57):
It sounds like marketing one one hundred.
Speaker 13 (30:05):
They're trying to do hemp pathways. They're trying to get
more people to get in this industry and educate them
because as we were listening, there's a lack of education.
Would you be interested in, I don't know, having interns
at some point in time in the future from any
of these trade tags that are educating people on hemp
and cannabis and how to process and manufacture and so.
Speaker 17 (30:24):
On, and so with Anthony we had that conversation, but
I'm a capitalist, I'm an American, So you first have
to put it. And the reason I say that is
usually people don't pay attention to anybody unless they've already
done it, unless they have enough money to make a
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mistake doing it. So when you're starting from the same level,
we're gonna bubble up. That's one way of doing it.
But if you want people to involve, you have to
be it. Jay Z wasn't just another rapper. He was
a rapper that made it. Then now when he speaks,
it has some validity to it. If he was just
another rapper, we heard the rhetoric before, but until he's
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gone out did it come back and teach it. That's
when people pay respect. Plus, people pay respect when it
costs something. When it doesn't cost anything, it usually has
no value to him or it's bad for him, like
government cheese that's free all day and that's no.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Good for you government cheese. All right, Anthony, how do
you see these hamp pathways leading the future for trade
techs and well, la and you said he had nine
sister campuses, So how do you see hemp as people
around to get on into the cannabis industry Because it's
a growing market, one hundreds of thousands of potential jobs
in the very near future. Can LA trade Tech be
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the epicenter of well, the education of this new boom.
Speaker 16 (31:53):
The reason why we chose to go into industrial hamp
rather than marijuana or anything like that, we felt that
market was overstrated. We felt that this was a market
that we can jump right in and you know, take
and just grab it and go.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
We believe trade tech would be a.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
Great candidate because we do everything industry of all trades here.
We have nine trades here, so we can implement hamp
in all those trades.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
And then the other sister.
Speaker 16 (32:16):
Colleges like Pierce College as agriculture, LACC has a journalism,
all types of things we can implement hampen.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
And that's what we saw. We saw the future in that.
Speaker 13 (32:25):
So how big do you think the future is?
Speaker 8 (32:28):
The future?
Speaker 16 (32:30):
I mean, it's gonna be like some George jests and
flying cards on hemp ethanol type stuff. You know, that's
what we're looking at. You know what I'm saying. We're
trying to set the standards of this hemp game. That's
what we want to do.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
That'll be dope, that would be dope.
Speaker 8 (32:44):
That would be literally dope. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 13 (32:47):
You guys met at a vegan restaurants, which is amazing.
I'm a vegetarian, So I give props to both for
you guys, because it's pretty tough out there to like
remain well, it can't be tough. Not tough for you,
but tough for me.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
All right.
Speaker 13 (33:04):
So you guys are obviously into the sustainability mindset. You
see that this world could be better.
Speaker 11 (33:11):
Why should people give a hemp?
Speaker 13 (33:13):
Why do you give a hemp?
Speaker 17 (33:14):
The reason I'm vegan is because I am conscious. You
really talk to people who aren't awake. They don't see it.
I stop wasting my breath on the sleeping. As a
conscious person, you have to realize that factory firement is
destroying lives. The mentality is when you're a kid, they
show you all these books on how you love the
(33:35):
animals and the animals talk, Charlotte's Web, everything, all movies,
but then they feed you chicken right after it, or
they feed you a pig is smarter than a dog. Like,
if you're going to have a house, bet, it should
be a pig. To be honest, one people don't run
up on it. It alerts you that something's going on.
It's a smart animal, but people decide to eat it.
And I think it's crazy that they distinguish cats, dogs,
(33:57):
certain birds, certain fish get to live, but all the
rest are made for us to live.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 17 (34:05):
The other part is if you don't change your mentality
by eating, not only are destroying lives, you're destroying your life.
The body is a fiber consuming mammal. We are not
supposed to be eating dead decayne caucus, or eating the
mental shyicle of a chicken, or eating the testicles of
bulls and cows. And it just doesn't make any sense
(34:29):
that those are things that we decided as food. And
being a person of African descent in my community are
a community of people that look like me, we still
eat slave food. So we're still enslaved mentally, one by
the food we eat and two by the way we
were taught. So it's everybody has to make an impression
(34:50):
on this planet. My impression is to have the least
footprint that I can leave when I leave, and these
are some big feet. But I decided to drive a
green car being electric. I like the hemp ethanol mentality
for those who still want to have cars that deal
with liquid and fumes.
Speaker 8 (35:08):
I'm literally trying to breathe.
Speaker 17 (35:09):
I was in China last year and I didn't see
the sun one time, and I was in a very
nice place. But they are in a country like China
making it a country wide mentality to get rid of
the smog.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
So they're going electric. You heard no scooters.
Speaker 17 (35:25):
You still hel cars, but then pretty soon you'll heal
no cars and then they'll be able to see the sky.
So it's a country behind that. They can call it communists, socialists, whatever,
but the fact that the government is even not there's
problems with it and how to try to get around
it is an impressive thing. So personally, eating vegan means
I care about myself, and to care about myself mean
(35:47):
I care about the planet and the next thing. So
I don't think anything has to die for me to live.
I'm obviously living well. It shows in my body and
it shows in my mind.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome for sure.
Speaker 13 (35:59):
And I'm going to ask this same question to you, man,
why should people give a hemp?
Speaker 16 (36:04):
Man, you should give a hint because you know the
future relies on it. You know, we're killing our planet
or you know, taking all the oil or taking all
the natural resources. Right now, we can't even use straws
in California because you know, and that all can be
changed to hemp.
Speaker 8 (36:18):
Straw we can do.
Speaker 16 (36:19):
We can do himp biodegrad but plastics, we do anything
with him. And so I feel that, you know, if
you still I know for myself, you know I want
a straw. I don't want to put my lips on
nobody glass in the restaurant.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
That's just me.
Speaker 16 (36:31):
So you know, taking that luxury away because you know
it's killing the environment, and why why not you know,
step intore and step into that product and put.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
The in in there.
Speaker 11 (36:41):
That's for sure.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
I've had the idea of making hamp straws a little
bit harder than than it looks like, but near future
very possible, very possible.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
You know.
Speaker 17 (36:49):
What you can also do is have your own straw
so you can come. They sell them on Amazon. I
don't mean to advertise for Amazon, but we all are
and you can literally they literally fold up. It's pretty slick.
I got one in the car that you do, and
I carry my own bottle of water. I drink the
stilled water. Listen, you you a vegetarian. That means you
(37:14):
like eggs and cheese, so you're a flesh.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
Eater to agree, right.
Speaker 17 (37:21):
So casin is the number one course of cancer is
in cheese. Cholesterol A hundred percent cholesterol is in eggs,
So you're giving yourself high cholesterol and cancer cells. Why
would you do that. I'm in milk, more protein, better
(37:42):
for you, more feeling. No animals had to die. Flaxeed
eggs beyond uh, follow your hard eggs.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
If you want that funk smell.
Speaker 17 (37:53):
Uh, you can get it or you can get it
there and it would scramble. The deal is, it's it's
really hard to not care about somebody you're when you're
a loving human being. It's really hard to not care
about other people. It's not hard to eat well and
care about other people. So and the benefit is I
just turned fifty five and I'm the same body weight
(38:15):
that I was when I was twenty five, with the
same libido and sex drive, which most guys can't say,
you go to Vegas right now. They're buying Viagara at
thirty five years old. So it's like this helps you
and your woman or your other mate, whatever, it may
be this helps in all of the ways possible, keeps
(38:37):
your confidence going. You are able to leave and realize
a wonderful thing you've done for the planet. If you
ever look at a baby calf, you go, oh sweet,
or you look at a little sheet, you go well.
But the funny thing is they don't care about it
when it gets to a certain age. It's just like
certain parts of the government when they talk about pro
life and pro choice. The truth about it is they
(39:01):
want you at an age where they can use you.
They're not really pro life. They're not really caring about abortion.
They're not They're caring about are we going to have
somebody to make if we keep having abortion. We're not
gonna have enough people paying taxes to pay for this,
and we need them for soldiers, male and female, gay
(39:21):
and straight.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
That tells you that they only want it for that.
Speaker 17 (39:25):
So when you deal with that pro life, if you
really about pro life, you'll be about pro life like
not just humans, because we're earthlings. Everything on the planet
deserves a right to be here, and everything on the
planet adds to that ecosystem. You go out and see
a whole bunch of cow down and you be like, man,
the cowd's going crazy. That's called fertilizer, right, So you see,
(39:47):
you get a whole bunch of goats and you go, man,
I don't feel like cutting the grass today. Just let
your coach go out, come back, have no grass. So
everybody does what they do as a human being, the
one who can make things because we got fingers and
thumbs and we can speak at different languages just like animals,
but we could make things. So it means we're not smarter,
(40:08):
just we have more ingenuity. But doesn't mean they should die.
Speaker 13 (40:12):
There's been a different kind of mentality going on recently.
There's people who've been switching more to vegetarian vegan lifestyles
because they're more aware. This awareness that we're all collectively creating.
It's going on to different like places.
Speaker 8 (40:27):
One of them is hemp. So it was made illegal.
Speaker 13 (40:29):
We went from complete prohibition to now we want to
use it for fifty thousand different products. When do you
see hemp actually becoming widespread acceptance of hemp?
Speaker 8 (40:40):
Well, I think the time is now.
Speaker 16 (40:41):
It's crucial, you know, and it's about educating you, yourself
and the people around you. For example, veganism.
Speaker 8 (40:49):
I got my crew right here. They keep me.
Speaker 16 (40:51):
I got a thing I called do it for Alley.
When I was like I'll be wanting to do something,
I'll be wanting the litter. I'm gonna do this for
Alley Man, I'm not gonna do it, and you know,
because you know they help me out, you know, with
all everything I need to do to be sustainable myself.
And as far as him, you know, like he, like
John said, man, we want people to be alive. You know,
there's so many aspects of this, of this product, for
(41:11):
example him crete Man, you can have a breathable wall
that filters every all the air that in your house.
You know, you don't have any allergy. You know, we're
in La, a very toxic place that the air here
is horrible, So you want that filtered out of your
house and become your true safe place there so you
can just you know, implement him. There's so many benefits
that we just have to take advantage of it, especially
(41:32):
eating him. You got all your O magas, all your proteins,
and it's just amazing.
Speaker 13 (41:37):
How long is it gonna take for the rest of
the country to wake up because there's still a lot
of stigma towards this plant. A lot of people don't
even know what it does or the benefits, and they're
scared of it because it might get you a little high.
So when do you think the country as a whole
is gonna get over this stigma?
Speaker 16 (41:52):
Every day I think we gained a little bit. So
you do everything, you walk in, the ways you preach,
and eventually it's gonna just take over. You know, it's
going to be a hemp revolution.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
When do you think this stigma's gonna go away? Because
you've been here for longer, you've been in the industry,
you're in the industry. Are things getting easier? Are things
getting harder?
Speaker 8 (42:12):
What do you feel about that?
Speaker 17 (42:13):
Well, the hemp plant cannot get you high. The cannabis
plant can get you high. The hemp plant cannot get
you high. There's no thac in a hemp plant, especially
the way they're breaking it down. Now there's like I said,
it's a sister plant.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
Two.
Speaker 17 (42:29):
They spent so much money, eighteen hundreds on pushing hemp away,
So we got a hundred years of propaganda to knock down.
I tell people, in nineteen nineteen, prohibition was over, and
to this day people still think I'm gonna take a drink.
It's gonna calm my nerves. Like you hear people say that,
(42:53):
but they don't know why they say that. They think
the drink is calming their nerves when it's really just
debding and brain cells. If you smoke cannabis, it enhances
your body and enhances brain cells, but they used to
say it killed brain cells. Right, So the teaching of
it and the making it as normal or as acceptable
(43:16):
as possible something that we do in the everyday deal,
it's going to be years and years. It took a
long time for people to get over, like separating drinking
fountains and restaurants. I mean this is not not sixty
years ago. Matter of fact, just sixty years ago are
closed right so to this day. So it's it's it
(43:40):
takes time to the fact that he and I, people
of color of African descent, are sitting up here doing
an interview at trade Tech is an amazing thing. So
you know, I don't discount it because I've seen when
it wasn't. I have daughters who I don't not say
take for granted they supposed to. They take it as
that the way it's supposed to be. Right, and not
(44:00):
black and white. So I think in this world of
hemp one, we have to change the mentality is about
eighty six percent of the people in jail for marijuana
or happen to be of color. We also have to
change what happens when you get cited for having cannabis now,
which is also changed. And we have to take away
(44:21):
the feeling that stoners are not successful. I prove that
to be totally false.
Speaker 13 (44:26):
All right, So we're talking a lot about sustainability and
awareness and such. There's a lot of companies in the
CBD and hemp market at this point in time that
are kind of sketchy. They're not doing it the right way.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
They are wasting a lot.
Speaker 13 (44:40):
There's pesticide, and there's stuff they're not supposed to be using.
How do you start a hemp company and make it
sustainable so that it's good for the environment and good
for your economy.
Speaker 17 (44:53):
The best thing about hemp is what it can be
toxic ground, and when you put hemp into the toxic ground,
it literally it literally cleans and it makes the soil healthy.
That's a great thing about this plant. The company I
work with, pure Crop one, we have a spray that
literally does not kill insects. It's not a pesticide of herbicide,
(45:14):
it's an enhancement. It literally canvinces the plant to vibrate
at a higher level. So when you're talking about plants,
greens vibrate, Let's say here and then fruits here. Fruit
are the highest vibrating plants. So like between eleven and two.
I always tell people to eat because that's when you're hybrading,
you're vibrating at your highest level, and so is fruit constantly.
(45:35):
So if I spray it on and I get the
plant to vibrate at a higher level, insects won't eat
it because they believe in the idea of the law
of the universe is the weak are usually the ones
that are consumed. So the plants that are dying is
what the insects usually attack. They don't attack the one
and wait for it to get big. They go they
(45:58):
pick their fights, so when they see a high vibrating
plant that doesn't kill them, they just stay away from it.
So sustainable because we can grow four times a year,
and it takes one hundred years ago a tree. The
ones you want to the ones that cut down.
Speaker 16 (46:17):
Takes three months to grow a fully grown hand plant.
Speaker 13 (46:21):
One hundred years, for a tree, one hundred days for
a hemp plant.
Speaker 11 (46:29):
Well, it depends.
Speaker 13 (46:30):
Maybe it's for hers, maybe it's for fiver. Depends on
what you're trying to do.
Speaker 8 (46:32):
It depends what you're trying to do.
Speaker 13 (46:34):
When it comes to the future of the industry, you're
going to need to expand and you're going to need
a workforce to help you expand. So how do you
think colleges like LA Trade Tech can help you as
a business owner to expand even faster.
Speaker 17 (46:51):
So a friend of mine started a cannabis costs down
in a school down in Florida. It was HBCU Historical
Black College University. They have a cannabis course. I think
at Trade Tech it would be smart to have cannabis courses.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
Not it just but trading.
Speaker 17 (47:13):
But in the same way you do if you were
going to get into a business a billion of florists.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
This plant is entirely different.
Speaker 17 (47:19):
We got so many things that can come out of it,
one how to sell it, to how to manufacture it
without destroying the integrity of the plant marketing salesforce. The
school can teach a lot of things and I like
that it's in the middle of Los Angeles, and it's diverse.
Speaker 8 (47:41):
It's the most important part of.
Speaker 17 (47:43):
It is the diversity of it of this campus because
this is definitely, as I said, the future.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
This plant is.
Speaker 17 (47:51):
Going to eradicate about five to six diseases in the
next twenty years where we don't hear about them anymore.
That's a lot of money coming out of somebody else's coffers.
So we have to be diligent, we have to be precise,
and we have to be American capital minded not to
(48:12):
let it slip through our hands, where it's an industry
that we all can be a part of. My daughter
Tyler and I induces twenty two. She decided we don't
have to be grandfather. Then we can be the pioneers.
I just take the arrows instead, but she can still
be the pioneers.
Speaker 8 (48:30):
That's awesome.
Speaker 13 (48:31):
And I'm gonna end it with a question to kind
of everybody. He just talked about a course that's being
offered that's gonna teach people the fundamentals of cannabis. Would
you guys take this course if it was offered here?
Speaker 16 (48:45):
Oh yeah, you couldn't stop Us'd be the first one
signist perfect.
Speaker 13 (48:50):
So let's get this course over here.
Speaker 16 (48:51):
Man, that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 8 (48:54):
That sounds good.
Speaker 11 (48:55):
Sounds good to me.
Speaker 13 (48:56):
I can't wait to see you guys in action.
Speaker 8 (48:59):
Your brand is.
Speaker 13 (48:59):
Called Douce twenty two, right, I'm kind of curious to
the name though. How'd that come about?
Speaker 8 (49:05):
I played in the NBA.
Speaker 17 (49:06):
My basketball number in college was retired number twenty two.
It should be retired in about four NBA places, but
we won't get into that now. So I've always been
my daughter wore my numbers. Deuces has always been my number.
So we came up with a great logo how it looks,
and it was everyone knew what it was. A song
came out about it. That was great, so just it
(49:27):
being in people's mind. But it's a lifestyle brand and cannabis.
We're gonna only have twenty two skews of cannabis and
the rest goes into every other part. That's one of
the reasons I'm here. Is everything from shoes, the socks,
the pants, the belts, the underwear, the t shirts to sweatshirts,
to suits, to linens inside your car, linens on your bed,
(49:51):
every single every single piece hats. It's all, it's all
going gonna be him or some form and some breakdown
of him. He even hooked me up somebody. Uh So
that's mainly what it is. And you can check it
out at Deuces twenty two dot Cannabis on Instagram, Orduces
twenty two dot com perfect.
Speaker 13 (50:09):
Got to check that out for sure, got to check
that out. And what about Industrial Hemp Alliance? Man, how
do we get in contact? If someone wants to become
a chapter in their college, how would they go about that?
Speaker 8 (50:21):
Man? Reach out to us.
Speaker 16 (50:22):
We'll be more than happy to come and put a
workshop at your college, will come and help you get established.
We'll do you anything well. Our job is to provide
you with every research you need to become successful. So
anything you need come to us would work our best
and we'll get that for you. And if you want
to reach out to us, you can hit us up
at IHA Hemp at gmail dot com. We also have
(50:42):
Lehigh Hemp on Instagram and mister Cannabis at Instagram, Instagram about.
Speaker 13 (50:49):
To say, mister cannabis for sure?
Speaker 8 (50:52):
Man?
Speaker 13 (50:53):
All right, so, Industrial Hemp Alliance, Deuces twenty two, Greenbee Life,
It's been a good talk. Thank you, guys for sure,
Yay you have.
Speaker 11 (51:06):
Have hooray hemp.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Hemp pay for sure. Isn't that fantastic? John Sally, former
NBA basketball champion, cannabis advocate, entrepreneur, veterinarian, veterinarian, well might
as well be vegetarian, healthy lifestyle, healthy sustainable lifestyle supporting
(51:46):
the Los Angeles Trade Technical College. While the LA t
TC doesn't yet offer a formal academic program specifically dedicated
to industrial hemp, what I love is the college is
commitment to hemp related initiatives through student led organizations and events,
(52:08):
and a shout out to the Industrial Hemp Alliance The
ih IHA Industrial Hemp Alliance IHA founded by two incredible
young women students, Abigail and Noami Kuovas, and to Anthony
Anthony McAfee, who was also interviewed during that panel and
(52:34):
who is the huge tour de force with the International
Hemp Alliance. Working with Alan Abigail and no Ami Kuevez,
they've been very active in promoting the hemp industry within
the campus community. The International Hemp Alliances organized educational workshops,
(52:57):
cooking demonstrations, and even the Hemp Fashion Show to raise
awareness about the diverse applications of hemp and hosted the
panel that attracted John Sally. He heard about it and
attended it a true, true MVP. But so if you're
(53:19):
in Los Angeles, yeah, you want to support and check
out that International Hemp Alliance. But also in Los Angeles,
I just want to mention several other colleges and universities
actually across the entire country that have integrated hemp related
studies into their curricula. It reflects the growing interest in
(53:41):
hemp cultivation and processing and its various applications, and some
call it the the Super Bowl, different kind of bowl
of weed. So University of California Riverside, they have a
Cannabis Studies Certificate program at u SEE Riverside. It's a
(54:05):
twenty four week online course covering various aspects of the
cannabis industry, including the agriculture and horticulture. They're not exclusively
focused on hemp, but the program encompasses the hemp relevant
agricultural practices. They also have Cornell University. They have a
(54:25):
hemp program and it offers a webinar series featuring experts
discussing topics including he cultivation, processing, and genetics. Theyse webinars
provide valuable insights into the latest developments in hemp research
and industry practices. Saint Louis Community College, they offer a
(54:46):
Certificate of Specialization in Cannabis and Hemp Production program educates
students on the specialized processes necessary to grow, manage, and
cultivate cannabis and hemp plants in accordance with their state
and federal law. Murray State University, they've positioned themselves as
(55:06):
a national leader in agricultural hemp development, focusing on research, education, policy,
and innovation within the hemp industry. And Vermont State University,
their Cannabis Studies Certificate program offers a twelve credit interdisciplinary
program exploring the various dimensions of cannabis, including its historical, cultural, economic, political, legal, medicinal,
(55:32):
and spiritual aspects aspects. It's a multifaceted plant, folks, and
that their program also includes cultivation of cannabis commercial development
of industrial hemp. So hey, these programs they reflect and
validate the increasing recognition of cannabis and hemp significance in agriculture,
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industry and commerce. And we need student to be the
next workforce. They need to have the knowledge and skills
to engage in this evolving field. So stay tuned. As
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All right, I'm your host, Maria Calabery's and today we've
been discussing cannabis and sports from the professional athletes, working
conversations to help everyone rethink cannabis as a treatment option
and as an agricultural crop, and even down to what's
in their Super Bowl buffalo wing condiments. So as we
(57:53):
wrap up today's conversation, one thing is clear. Cannabis and
sports are becoming more intertwined than ever. While the NFL
has taking steps toward updating its cannabis policies, share it
still lags behind leagues like the NBA, which have fully
removed marijuana from their banned substances list. Athletes, scientists, and
(58:16):
advocates continue to push for change, recognizing cannabis as a
legitimate tool for recovery. And speaking of football, we can't
close out without mentioning the biggest game of the year,
Super Ball is just days away. Whether you're in it
for the game, the commercials, the halftime show are just
(58:38):
the infused condiment snacks. It's a cultural phenomenon that brings
people together. But here's a fun fact. Did you know
that Las Vegas, the host of this year's Super Bowl,
is home to some of the largest dispensaries in the country.
Cannabis lounges are going to part of the Vegas experience,
(58:59):
making this the first Super Bowl played in a city
where cannabis consumption is fully legal and socially accept it.
You know, the cannabis industry as a whole is breaking
into mainstream spaces, from major sporting events to cultural celebrations
complete with infused pizza and dipping sauces. The Super Bowl
(59:20):
and even holidays are presenting new opportunities for normalization, education,
and engagement with a wider audience. Raises an interesting question.
Will we see cannabis brands make their way into Super
Bowl advertising in the near future with the mainstream acceptance
growing and might not be long before a cannabis company
lands a coveted Super Bowl ad spot. Imagine a halftime
(59:44):
commercial featuring pro athletes advocating for cannabis as part of
their wellness routine, where witnessing history and the making and
these conversations matter whether you're a fan, an athlete, or
just someone curious about change the landscape. It's an exciting time.
Thank you for joining me today, Keep the conversation going,
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.