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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to Just Say No, That's No
with a cana w CANOW this show where we explore
the ever evolving world of cannabis, spotlighting innovators, game changing products,
and the visionary shaping the industry. I'm your host, Maria Calabres,
and today, on this special Valentine's Day edition, we're diving

(00:34):
into a topic that's been whispered about for centuries, but
it's finally getting the spotlight it deserves. Cannabis, intimacy and
sexual wellness. Come on, let's be real. People have been
pairing cannabis and intimacy for a long time. Ancient cultures

(00:55):
use cannabis as an aphrodisiac, and even Queen Victoria was
rumored to have used it for menstrual relief because apparently
ruling an empire wasn't stressful enough. Yet, despite its long history,
talking openly about cannabis and sex still feels, yeah, let's
face it, taboo. Why Well, I don't know, maybe because

(01:20):
for decades we were told that cannabis would ruin our lives,
while at the same time, society tried to convince us
that intimacy was something to keep hush huss unless of
course it was being used to sell the odorant or
fast food go figure. Or maybe maybe it's because we
feel too uncomfortable admitting that our grandparents might have known

(01:41):
a thing or two about this before us. Hey joining
me to breakdown the myths, the science and the magic
behind cannabis and intimacy is Maureene Dubet Savonne as Mo.
Mo is a registered dietitian. It's nearly thirty years of experience.

(02:02):
She brings a whole system's approach to wellness, integrating nutrition,
plant medicine, and the eight pillars of holistic health. Through
her work with more Canon Care, she helps people harness
the power of cannabinoids found in food, yeah and food
and plants to achieve optimal mind body balance. Now, today

(02:26):
we're going to explore how cannabis can enhance intimacy, pleasure,
and overall well being, helping couples and individuals deep in
their connection on every level. From the science behind cannabis
and libido to practical tips were incorporating plant medicine into

(02:46):
your wellness and romantic rituals. This episode is all about
celebrating and elevating love and self care. So sit back,
relax and let's get smarter together with some of the
brightest minds in the industry. Because knowledge is sexy. You

(03:07):
know what else is sexy? Cannabis.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrill Lynch estimate
that will grow to thirty five billion dollars, and many
experts believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Each and every years.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I can see so much fun yours your I'm a
betafide who is going to be gone, taking me a
while to get it. Had to live and cry to

(04:05):
appreciate life and.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
What you give is worth it.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
When you're holding me, when you hold me so close,
someone further and under your skin. I want to leave
the mic so that I can be sure that you
remember what and we're back. If you're just tuning in,
will you pick the perfect time because we're about to
kick off this Valentine's Day with a conversation focused on connection, wellness,

(04:34):
and a touch of spice. A little naughty, ah, but
very nice with Maureen dubay save Ghan, founder of More
Can of Care. Mo. Please tell me I didn't butcher
your last name and how to pronounce it, no problem,
welcome to just say no, yes, how do you have

(04:55):
do you pronounce you your name?

Speaker 4 (04:57):
It's so beauty today. Savage, yes, savage, dubay savage. Yeah,
you can spice it up, sabage Dubay savage. That little
French player.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, people do that with me. Calabrese, Calibrese say hey,
you know all right, well, welcome, welcome, welcome, you know, uh,
I'm just so excited to have you here because you
understand that true wellness is about more than just counting

(05:28):
calories or eating more fruits and vegetables. You know, you
take this whole body approach, one that includes as well,
harnessing the power of cannabis to bring balance and support
to our over all well being. So welcome to just

(05:49):
say no.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
And thank you, thank you for having me diving in.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Explain to us a little bit more about your company.
It's your company, right, more can of care uh huh y,
and how you help people build better health habits, but
rethinking the way we nourish our bodies, our minds, and yes,
even our relationships.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
So more kind of care is my nutrition in cannabis practice.
I guide people when they come to me on their
therapeutic dose for what they're looking for to manage, usually
a symptom that they're trying to find an alternative to.
That's usually how people find me is that they're tired
of either still suffering or that something didn't work. And

(06:38):
then with my background of nutrition and adding cannabis in,
I look at whole person, whole body, whole foods, and
with that cannabis goes right in that into that category.
And I look at mind, body spirit. We don't again,
like you were saying, just talk about calories that never

(06:59):
sat with me well as a dietician for over thirty
years of being so strict. It is about meeting uh,
the person at where they're at, and it's making small
incremental changes that are good for them as a whole person.
Because sometimes when you restrict, other things go out of balance,
and that is never gets that person to a real

(07:22):
understanding of caring for themselves as a whole. So that's
what I'm here to do, is to help people find
that whole body balance.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
That is just so fantastic. Mo. You know, you not
only sometimes get out of balance if you start restricting something,
but if you can't maintain if you make these changes
too quickly, I find they're not sustainable, and then that
that self defeatist at comes in that chatter and that

(07:57):
that's not healthy either. So you your skill set and
by combining, what you're combining is so eclectic, eclectic and unique.
So if people would like to learn more about More
Canic Care or how they can get in touch with you,
what where would they go?

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yep, you can find me on my website at more
Canic Care. You can find a little bit more about
me on my socials with the same More can of Care,
but you can schedule an appointment. A free fifteen minute
call always helps you to kind of answer those quick
questions that you might be having about you know, who
I am, what I am going to be working with

(08:38):
for you, and most of the time it's really about
questions about cannabis and how that would kind of play
into what they're looking to work on. And so that
free fifteen minute helps people to be comfortable and then
we can work from there.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
And that's your website is Morecanicare dot com. That's more Care,
m O R E c A n n a cr
dot com. And we could find Canic Care and MOW
on social media at more Canic Care. So that's amazing

(09:14):
and I really love that you give a free initial
fifteen minute appointment. That's just wonderful. So we've heard you know,
we've all I'm a foodie. I've been struggling with wait
my entire life. We've all heard the phrase you are
what you eat. But can you speak a little bit

(09:36):
about how what we and the plants that we consume
could actually help us to feel more connected in our relationships,
more in tune with our body, and even enhance you know, intimacy.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, when you're eating well right and eating I don't
need to tell many people people what they should be eating.
We know that if it doesn't have a label, it's
probably pretty good, meaning that it's a whole food, a
whole fruit, a whole vegetable with minimal processing meaning back
to dice and slicing on our own, a whole food item.

(10:16):
And when we eat well, our body digests well and
eliminates and nourishes our body. And that translates to your
mood and your mindset and your attitude and your energy level,
and all those things contribute to you feeling good about
yourself and life, which then in turn will turn into

(10:38):
your interests, which should be turning towards your relationships, particularly
a partnership romantic relationship, that when you feel good about yourself,
then you're going to look to care for others and
that will be your partner.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Indeed, indeed, and there's just not enough resources or emphasis
put on the holistic approach that you take and just
even self love even if you don't have a partner,
that's fine too, but just loving ourselves more so. You've

(11:16):
spent nearly thirty years as a dietitian. You mentioned what
was that like aha moment when you realized, hey, cannabis
could be an essential part of my practice.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well as a dietician of thirty years, you know, all
of my training has been in food and some in herbs,
but not to the level of like an herbalist does
that in depth, and I do, you know, integrate suggestions
for herbs in our cooking and in our drinks to

(11:53):
enhance our wellness because they really do work. But through
my years of nutrition it really was food focused instead
of herb focus. And I've always been a cannabis user recreationally,
just usually for you know, the giggles on weekends. And
it wasn't until I realized that I had a raw

(12:15):
garlic allergy, meaning that I mean, I'm from New Jersey,
a lot of Italian food, a lot of raw garlic, right,
the staple. But as I aged, I realized.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
And can I interrupt, I'm from New Jersey. I eat
and cook a lot of Italian food, and I have
my kitchen that's say.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Legalized Marinara Marinier. I have that shirt. I have that shirt.
It's from the Tomato company. Yeah. So I developed this
raw garlic allergy, which was a shame because that's that's
the food.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Of that, that's the base, and that's the base.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
That's the base, right.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
And I didn't know people could be allergic to because
garlic is such an healthy thing to eat. So that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
You can be allergic to anything to the reality is right,
it's it's it's how your body responds to that. And
there could be different reasons. But in the acidic form
when we crush it, what I did find from my
looking around was that that acid form just kind of
I don't have an enzyme to break that down or

(13:22):
lost that enzyme, and so I would become extremely distended
to the point I felt like I was pregnant. To
where I would have GI distressed to throwing up. And
I looked and looked and looked all over the internet,
and no kind of zofran, no kind of anti you know, gas,
none of it worked. And ironically, we were in Mexico,

(13:46):
my husband and I, and we went to this beautiful restaurant,
had this amazing meal, and then half hour later it
hit and I'm moaning and groaning, and to be honest
with you, at that time, I said, hun, I didn't
have any anything with me. I didn't travel with it.
But I wound up deciding to go out and see
if I could find some, and I did, and the

(14:09):
consumption of cannabis immediately settled my stomach and reduced my distension.
And it was that exact moment I've always used it
for fun that I was like, this was more than,
you know, just for fun. This was medical and exploring
that on the internet, nobody was saying that they had

(14:31):
results or relief using and it was in inhale cannabis
at that time, and so that's what I really connected
for me, at least the medical component that I was
using it, because I wasn't using it medically at the time,
but that was my first indicator is this is medicine.
This did something that no other medication that I tried

(14:54):
would help with. And it would be a twenty four
to forty eight hour pain and distension that would I mean,
it would knock me out. And so with that journey
of understanding that a Colorado Dietetic Association talk highlighted a
dietitian in the area that was speaking about cannabis, and

(15:15):
that intrigued me because they were offering CEU credits. So
of course I went to it and I was hooked.
Her name is Donna Shields here from Boulder, and her
and another dietitian wrote a book called the CBD Oil
Miracle or that that was based in their understanding of
the science as dietitians. And then I do believe that

(15:39):
they each treated their child with cannabis for their you
know needs with excellent results that got them to write
this book, you know, look at the science, write the book,
and then they wound up writing a full program to
educate dietitians about that this is our wheelhouse, this is

(16:02):
an herb, and this should be part of the repertoire
of tools in our toolbox that dietitians should be using
just like we would say to make a turmeric milk
for inflammatory, you know, to boost our inflammatory or add
any other herbs into our recipes, that cannabis absolutely can

(16:23):
be one of those herbs for wellness or you know,
managing a symptom from a disease. So that's really where
I got started. And then I just drank from the
fire hose, learned as much as I can, and got
the certification and went from there and started educating and

(16:45):
you know, touting everything that this plant can do for us.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's phenomenal. I mean, how common are registered dieticians who
have a master's in nutrition, a career in nutrition and
holistic approach. How common is it for them that are
integrating cannabis into their practice.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Absolutely there are. Denver just hosted the Dietetic Association's conference
last year and it was great to see a handful
of dietitians had brought on brought this certification on, probably
from the work of Laura and Donna who wrote that
book and then got the credential to do this holistic

(17:31):
cannabis certification as a medical you know CEUs for us.
But it isn't that common to do the certification in cannabis.
But what is common is that dietitians are very much
moving towards functional medicine practices, meaning whole body holistic looking

(17:53):
at mind, body, and spirit, not just the calories and
restrictions and diets, but really looking at the impact of
small behavioral changes and wider tools, which usually includes plants
as medicine and food as medicine instead of prescriptions, and

(18:14):
really even supplements. You know, they have their place, of course,
but really trying to get your nourishment from food and
full mind, body, spirit concept, which brings me.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Right into my next question. And for listeners who are
interested in that book, we will have a reference on
our show page with a link. But this leads me
right to you know, in your work at more Canic Care,
I saw on your website that you emphasize the eight
pillars of holistic health. Now what are the eight pillars

(18:49):
of holistic health? And how do cannabinoids fit into this framework?
And I promise everybody we're going to get to have
in the backroom.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, yeah, the pillars of health are it's a common
kind of statement in the health and wellness right there's
anywhere from three to four to twelve I've seen, right,
And but the kind of the staple, the five staples
are usually based in physical, social, emotional, spiritual, intellectual, and

(19:22):
that makes sense to me. And nutrition is one of them,
whether you want to put that in physical or on
its own. And as a dietitian, in my pillars, right,
these are the pillars that I work through to kind
of get you to where you want to be. Cannabis
is in all of this because when you're talking about nutrition,

(19:44):
there is nutritional value in cannabis. We have hemp seeds
and hemp oil that has a mega threes and sixes
that are at a beautiful cardiac beneficial ratio. So we
should be using hemp seed oil now. Hemp seed oil
from the seed press. Even the hemp seeds are nutritious

(20:06):
in regards to fiber and protein and that really helps
with all the nutrients and digestion and all the things
that keep our body going. So that's where cannabis, you know,
plays a role in the nutrition part. Physical most people start,
and I start with clients, is in the physical part,

(20:30):
but particularly with sleep. Sleep is the first pillar of wellness.
I believe that you should be working on that if
you don't have that, you know, kind of at close
to a you know, set pattern and real good rhythm,
most things kind of fall off. So we start with sleep,

(20:51):
and cannabis really is effective with helping you either get
to sleep or stay asleep. And sometimes even cannabis can
help during the day to either keep you active and
engaged so that you can then rest at night. So
another pillar is emotional. Cannabis has had great benefit with

(21:17):
people to reduce their anxiety, especially when they're using cannabis
effectively with the right ratios and amounts. Depression also has
been managed effectively by a lot of people by using
again the right formulation and amount. So it kind of
and socially right, who doesn't use cannabis sometimes for the

(21:40):
giggles or to that social lubrication that often alcohol has
been used for, right, but at the right amount, it
also can open you up socially. Some other pillars are spiritual.
There is a long long history of spiritual use of
cannabis and any psychedelics in connecting to a higher self,

(22:06):
which is usually within you. Right, if you really kind
of work with the spiritual concept, it is about getting
to know yourself and then self is the universe or
the spirit or your God, right, it's in you. Others
are environmental. The last one, you know, of all the pillars,

(22:26):
cannabis is fantastic for environmental pillars, meaning that the stalks
of one of the varietals of cannabis, you know, was
the sales from our navy ships was the cots and
made tepies. It's cloth, it's food, it's fiber. So environmentally

(22:47):
it has a beautiful impact in remediating soil, taking toxins
out of soils, and really does a great job of
cleaning up you know, work sites that have been that's
been happening for years. So cannabis is in all the
pillars of health if you you know, use the full plant,

(23:08):
meaning all the places that cannabis can affect our You
know our environment and you know what's around you is
what's in you, right, so not nexlecting that environment is
very impactful, whether it be people around you or the
things around you right, TX and smell, sense all that

(23:29):
kind of stuff. So that's how it works into there.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
My goodness, there is so much too unpacked on the
eight pillars. We only have, uh right that would today
I would like to have you back. I can. I
would love to discuss with you, just unpack each one
of those pillars. There was so much you said, but
it segues into the spiritual uh, which I was going

(23:54):
to come up with next. But it's a it's a
multifaceted plant. There is no other harvestable crop that has
all of these different major components. It is so much
more than the promise of a high. It is it
is not.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, it's not just it's healing our earth. It's healing
our souls. It's healing our bodies.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's trying. It's trying, and you know it will if
you let it.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, I love it anyway.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's recreational, it's adult recreational. It's there's a wellness lane
when you speak of the CBD was so when you
talk of cannabis, for those of you, it is very
confusing the legal classifications. But hemp and marijuana they're both cannabis.
It's a legal classification. So when you're talking CBD, and

(24:51):
there's CBD from the bad plant, there's THC from the marijuana,
but those are only two cannabinoids. So I can have
you back on whole episode on the pillars, and then
on all the cannabinoids. But we have adult recreational, we
have a wellness lane, we have medicinal, and we have
an industrial hemp which you hit on, which soil remediation.

(25:13):
I mean they used it after Cherinobyl.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And what.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
We don't value our soil, we call it dirt. But
what comes from our soil, our fruits are vegetables. That
what we put in our body in. But there is
the spirituality component and there's the sexuality component, which it's
all connected. So you know, cannabis has been used for
sensories for these various applications, spiritual, medicinal, purposes, industrial, including

(25:44):
enhancing intimacy. Yet it's still a topic, the intimacy topic
that's not widely discussed. So before we explore how cannabis
can support sexuality in this modern era of legalization, I
wanted to provide a little historical context. So I did

(26:07):
some research and cannabis well over thirty five hundred years ago.
I guess it was referred to as and I love this.
I'm going to name a new show after it. Bang.
It was referred to as Bang, Bha and G so
it had been used in India. Bang thirty five hundred
years ago. In irevetic and tantric practices from thirty five

(26:33):
hundred years ago, there's references describing it as one of
the five Sacred plants. Now it was believed to heighten
spiritual awareness, enhance the intimacy, and create deeper connections between partners.
And then in ancient Egypt it was used as an
aphrodisiac and a fertility aid. Medical text dating back as

(26:56):
far as two thousand BCE to four hundred C they
mentioned cannabis is a treatment for gynecological issues, potentially supporting
sexual wellness, and some scholars believe Egyptsum women may have
used cannabis infused remedies for arousal and fertility purposes. Now,

(27:20):
in the nineteenth century Middle East, during the Ottoman Empire
from twelve ninety nine to nineteen twenty two, hashish consumption
was widespread, with references all over in poetry and literature
linking it to pleasure and intimacy. By the nineteenth century
European travelers they recorded accounts, I guess that's when you

(27:42):
could cross state lines and countries. Okay, we're gonna We're
gonna make cannabis great again. Everybody, Okay, so European travelers
they recorded accounts of hashish being used in love potions
and aphrodisiac concoctions in the Middle East and North Africa.
So my question to you are, what are some of

(28:05):
the ways Hey, no people Valentine's Friday, What are some
of the ways cannabis is being used to support sexual wellness,
both physically and emotionally in today's modern era?

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, so's It has been used from the beginning of
time and has been used all through prohibition, fortunately for
those warriors that have kept you know, these formulations and
growing alive. But the way that you can use cannabis
to support wellness is again using Once you understand how
to use it for yourself and what you're looking for,

(28:40):
you can have a better sense of yourself and that's
always going to allow for better connection with a partner.
And the way that we do that is by trialing
and tracking even before you try to use it for
intimacy to see how you respond, especially if you're a
new user. But but the easiest way physically is to

(29:05):
use a topical, so an infused massage oil is the
first layer to kind of try things out, because.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Hang, I'm sorry, am I understanding this is something you
should try alone at home.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Well, yeah, I mean that that is you know, it's
always about ourself first, right.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
And when we were talking about trialing and making shy, yeah,
and to see how you respond, especially if it's an
ingestible where That's why like an oil or a topical
is an easy start physically because most topicals don't go
into the bloodstream unless of course they're used in uh,

(29:50):
you know, an intimate area where you know it may
be absorbed, especially if it's you know often or at
high concentrations, but that that concern.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Is low most topicals and you know on the regular
skin is helping to bring blood flow and muscle relaxation.
But if you are kind of using it both physically
and emotionally, so that would be a physical way, is
that you use infused oils to enhance the connection and

(30:22):
you know touching with your partner when you consume it,
there could be an emotional change, right, And that's why
I encourage trialing with with a product before you are
looking to use this intimately, making sure that if you
are a new user, that you just don't use it

(30:44):
the night of the date, right, that you understand how
you're going to respond in timing and effects. And the
thing with the today's modern era is that we have
cannabis in multiple forms. Now you know where it wasn't
just flower and then maybe somebody made some hashish, right,
we have full blown food production levels. So now we

(31:08):
have it and candy and gummies and oils and capsules
and tablets and drinks and edibles and topicals of all nature.
And so when you work, you know, with this with cannabis,
with this topic, you want to again be sure that
you know exactly how that you are going to respond,

(31:29):
so that you know when to kind of initiate the
use of cannabis before intimacy. So it's very helpful to
know how you respond.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Interesting, So to use cannabis for intimacy, always remember, guys,
it has two parts to consider before trialing in the bedroom,
the emotional and the physical. Now, anyone who would want
a more in depth answer to this question about how
to get started, Mode did a wonderful interview in our

(32:04):
greenbelife dot com greenbee Life Learning Center, and we have
a blog the Best Weed for Sex and Intimacy for
Valentine's Day. It was just published, So anyone wants to
hear a more in depth answer, and I want to
thank you again for participating in that interview and thank

(32:25):
you for such a such a wonderful, insightful answer on this. Now,
are there any particular when you talk about you know,
there's so many different forms and it's in food production.
Are there any particular types of cannabis CBD and or
THC a combination thereof that, or products that you like

(32:50):
that you recommend for intimacy?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Sure? The key here is that where are you with
your cannabis use?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Right?

Speaker 4 (33:00):
And anyone who is currently using cannabis most likely knows
how like what route they like to use kindab a
sin meaning do they inhale it or do they ingest it?
Or is it topical? Right? But when we're talking about
new users, it is very very good to start out

(33:21):
with just a CBD product and then use a little
bit of THC in it to know how you respond
to the THC molecule, which is the one that kind
of changes your perception a little bit. It doesn't always
depending on your metabolism, your tolerance, you know how your
body responds to it. But we all are very different

(33:42):
in how we respond to THC. So again, if you
are a new user, a cannabis guidance would suggest to
you to use the lowest amount you can get, preferably
two and a half milligrams of THC in that product,
or even less if you can find it less. Prefer
if that two and a half milligrams is in a gummy,

(34:04):
we suggest to even take half of that. Again if
you are very new to using the THC molecule of
the cannabis plant. But to help balance that out, and
I'm seeing more and more of this on the recreational
shelves where most people are getting their cannabis, is that

(34:24):
that component of having that CBD in there is the
second part to this. So the THC changes your perception
and gives you that kind of euphoria in a positive
way if it's at the right dose. The CBD is
the anti inflammatory and it's the relaxer. So assuring that
you have that CBD in that amount and not be

(34:49):
just a gummy with all THC is another big factor,
so that you can really relax with this and not
overdo your TC, which may gets you into an uncomfortable space.
That then intimacy is not you know, you're not available.
And again that's why trialing these products before that date

(35:14):
would be preferred, so that you can kind of time
it and know how it works for you.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
What do you think of the online CBD products? I mean,
you know, a nice full spectrum they contain, you know,
the legal limit which is not really based on science.
That's another episode. The legal limit has up two point
three percent THC, so trace amounts of THC that you

(35:44):
can get online, that is. But you know, I found
for back pain that the online products the legal limit
up to point three percent THC is approximately twenty five

(36:06):
parts CBD to one part THC approximately, But when I
go to a dispensary, you could get like less CBD
twenty parts CBD to one part THC, or you could
get even less CBD ten parts. You know, you have
these ratios and you can have more. And that's all

(36:27):
how you respond. You had your body had that reaction
to garlic, the acid and garlic. It's it's how you
respond and how the cannabinoids interact with one another and
finding that magic dose and right ratio. But what do
you think, I mean, I've gotten relief from some of
the online products. I do prefer the ones from the dispensaries.

(36:47):
Do you think there's any What do you think of
CBD with the legal links available online?

Speaker 4 (36:55):
A full spectrum, Yeah, depending on your state. Here's the
challenge is that just because of its online doesn't mean
that it's not a quality product. Right. There's a lot
of legal products, and what you need to verify when
you're purchasing any CBD online is to make sure that
it has just like a food label, nutrition label, we
are looking for a label that tells us what's in

(37:17):
that that product, and that's called a certificate of analysis,
and they can't usually, you know, put that on the
label of the product, but a good company will have
that easily accessible on that website and up to date
per their batch to make sure that you know exactly
what you are purchasing and that they have tested this

(37:41):
in you know, the system that they're operating in. Now
that depends on your state. So there the loophole that
is out there right now with this CBD products with
this zero point three percent legal limit starts to get
a very great area because they do a mathematical magic

(38:02):
with weight out, you know, proportions, and what has happened
kind of for good and not is that in the
recreational side there was a lot of high high THC
products and now the market is realizing. And I do
believe it's as a positive result of this gray area

(38:23):
of the farm bill where CBD can be manipulated in
its serving size to still be legal but have more
TTC than the state regulated side. Is that we're finally
seeing very high CBD products with little bit of TC
more than the legal limit, more than the point three

(38:46):
but just one two three milligrams with a good amount
of CBD. And that's usually a product that most people
can introduce themselves to cannabis, see how it works in
our bodies, see how TTC responds. And so we love
these products as long as they're made, you know, made safely,

(39:09):
and that they're tested so that they don't have byproducts
from processing or growing that we will consume either inhaling
if it's a flower, or ingesting as an edible, or
even topical because there's a lot of products, you know,
chemicals that can be put into a topical that you
might want not want to put on your body. So
always working, always looking for CooA to test so that

(39:34):
you know at least they are being held to a testing.
If it doesn't have a testing, no go.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
That's right. And guys, the technical term is Certificate of
Analysis CoA. A lot of websites now are calling it
lab test and lab results, which is fine as long
as when you click on it, it says certificate of
analysis from a laboratory, a reputable laboratory. Now at greenby Life,
we're media company and we have online resources and guides

(40:04):
and articles, and we have videos, we have the radio show.
But we did introduce a curated marketplace with Vettic products
and they're all triple lap tests that they have the
certificates of analysis and we have a whole vetting system.
Because it's paradoxical, but these regulatory agencies that are supposed

(40:29):
to be keeping us safe, their lack of movement on
descheduling or rescheduling is causing safety issues because of these
loopholes that you speak of. And the paradoxes is if
you go into a state legal state dispensary, the state

(40:50):
has testing requirements, so those products, as long as you're
in illegal dispensary, they're pretty heavily tested. I mean in
California it's it's so rigorous. But when you're online, you
got to do your homework or you've got to go
to a trusted resource. And at Green Bay Life, we

(41:12):
it's quality over quantity. We don't always have a lot
of products, but the ones we have are tested, and
you want to make sure that they're tested not only
for the potency has this amount of CBD in it
and the amount of THC that the label says, but
for the purity because you don't want pesticides and all

(41:33):
of that stuff. So gosh, I just get so much
smarter speaking to you, and I just love talking to.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
You, and yeah, and especially being careful purchasing from states
that aren't legal and everything in that state, because there
are great operators in these states doing the right thing.
But it is your kind of pause for caution that
if this is not a regulated state for recreational then

(42:02):
a lot of these operators are working in this gray area.
So you just have to weed them out a little
bit more. And that's with like vetting or with working
with a cannabis guide or coach. There's lots of them
out there they can help out right.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, having the resource of the guide and the coach,
and that's what more cana care does and and speaking
of the dispensary route, do you have any particular strains
that you recommend for intimacy? Like our phones were ringing
off the hook, this is the number one question. I

(42:37):
was shocked. My number one question is if we have
time to get to it, have anything for menopause.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
But everyone wants to know all of it, right, what
do I want?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Strains? What do I do? What? What are the best?
And are there different strains for female pleasure to enhance
female pleasure versus mail pleasures?

Speaker 4 (43:02):
So what's the reality is that when we talk about that,
everybody wants to be told exactly where to go. Give
me this, tell me that, and I'm going to get this.
And the thing with nutrition, the thing with wellness, the
thing with emotional, social, and intimacy is that it is
about your own personal experience. So we all have anabinoid system,

(43:26):
but we all also have different genetics and different stressors
that affect that endocannabinoid system that make it be that
we don't need a whole lot more because our system
is balanced, or maybe because we're beaten that system up
from toxins and stressors that we need more. But the

(43:46):
point here is that It is about what's right for you.
So when you're going to look for a product, right,
if you don't smoke, then we can't even be talking
about flower right because you don't want to inhale anything.
And this is what the Cannabis Guide does is we
go through that algorithm with that person who may be thinking,
I want to use this for intimacy, how should I

(44:09):
go about this? And we ask all those questions. Are
you a new user or an existing user? What have
you used in the past, what has worked for you?
And you know, going through those questions because it always
is personal. Brands want to pretend, you know, pretend that
there is strains for this or that, but it's really

(44:29):
what are you looking for? Right, So let's just speak
with products first. Again, we go through that algorithm and
if you're not, you know, interested in inhaling, which there
are non carcinogenic dry or vaporizers, that hailing does have
value because it gives more mediacy to the effects, which

(44:51):
could be appropriate for the situation of the intimacy that
you're looking to get. It could enhance, but with an
ingestable which takes lot more time pending your body and
that's why you want to trial it before that could
be what you're looking for. And then there's a whole
slew of other questions meaning do you want it quick
on set or do you want it longer? Do you

(45:14):
you know what type of product, what flavors do you like?
You know? All those questions need to be asked to
find then the product that you're going to introduce to
yourself to make yourself feel good to them be wanting
to connect with your partner, right, and that's what cannabis does.
But with flower and you're talking about strains or cultivars, right,

(45:38):
the age old of sativa to hybrid to indica is
really outdated because they were really rooted in where was
it grown, where did they come from? Shorter plants were
in harder, hardier, colder regions, and that is more the
indica styles. The sativas grow big and bright and huge,

(45:59):
and they give a lot of energy because they're usually
grown in well, you know, at least land races in
very warm, sunny climates and that's why they really respond
and they give a lot more energy. And so when
you're looking for a strain for yourself for intimacy, it's
really about what you're looking for because some people need

(46:19):
to be perked up, right, so they would want to
look for strains that have these other components in the
plant called terpenes that we believe add to the effects.
Now we don't know that exactly, but we're relating that
very similar to food and other central oils. Just like

(46:39):
lavender is known to calm us, there is little loul
in the cannabis plant that's similar to that that have
a calming effect. And just like when we love to
smell orange or a lemon and a citrus or some
fruit and that wakes us up and that gives us energy,
that is in the cannabis plant. Also there are similar

(47:00):
terpenes that are similar to other foods that are in
other foods and plants. So it's nothing new to cannabis.
But give us that indication that that is the effect
that it may give for you. But the key is
for you. So whether you feel like I need energy

(47:23):
for this partnership or do I need to relax. Some
people come into hot right and they need to relax
right from too much chatter maybe in their head about
themselves or the day right that's inhibiting their connection. Right.
So I always say you know, it's such a marketing
tool that this strain you know it's for will help

(47:46):
you get in the mood. Well, that just depends on
the person. So the best way to do that if
you're picking a strain is to smell the flower. If
you're in a place that still allows Deli style, to
smell the flower your nose, nose, and that will indicate
that the likelihood is if you smell that and you're like, oh,

(48:08):
that smells good, it most likely will work with your body.
And when I smell things that are either you know,
kind of gassy or real earthy and or pungent or skunky,
that that doesn't agree to me and so therefore that's
not one that I choose. So there's a little bit
of that in regards the gender differences. Unfortunately, research has

(48:33):
not really worked too much on a lot of the
questions that we have, right but in gender differences, what
we know from what is really coming from what people
have purchased, and we have kind of a bit of
the customer loyalty data that knows, well, that was a
female purchasing at what age, and so we know kind

(48:54):
of female and male preferences based on purchases we would
love to know more about how our bodies, as male
or female, process cannabis. And what we're finding is, you know,
people that have faster metabolisms. We know this from other
drugs in our bodies or molecules, right, not calling cannabis

(49:18):
a drug, but just anything our food, our molecules, right,
how our body responds to that and processes it. And
that's the same for cannabis. So you know, women may
have not much of a tolerance and men may need
more is some indications. So that's why when we're talking
about like specific products for intimacy, it's going through that

(49:43):
algorithm and what are you comfortable with, what amount, what route,
and then trial and track it to then be ready
to use it in your intimate space.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You know, you can't underestimate the value of speaking to
an expert with a certification that's on the heels of
a medical background in terms of being a registered dietitian
and a nutritionist. Because we've got to train the professionals,
and kudos to you. Doctors have to want to learn

(50:18):
about this. It's got to be descheduled at a minimum
and rescheduled because you know, guys don't fall into the
marketing trap and don't be lazy. It's not as easy
as just saying, hey, I want to strain to really
spice things up tonight. And you walk in and bud
tenders are well meaning and bud tenders if you're listening.

(50:39):
I've talked to some of the smartest and the best.
But because they've talked to cannabis guides like yourself, MO,
so I urge dispensaries and brands, send your bud tenders,
send your reps to more can of care, to organizations,
to guides, to experts like MO because this is complicated.

(51:02):
This isn't like you know, people just distill it down to, oh,
you get high and your couch locked. It's so much
more complicated. I mean, we could do episodes on We
started with the endocannabinoid system. You talk about cannabinoids, you
talk about terpenes, you talk about entourage effect. This is

(51:24):
this is complicated stuff, and you know, you want to
know what you need to find your magic dose, and
it's it's just such a treasure that there's people as
knowledgeable as you and it's backed by science. Because I
love that you're an ambassador for Leaf four one one.
We had a wonderful episode last week, if you guys

(51:45):
didn't catch it with a registered nurse, Catherine Holden. She
is the founder of Leaf four one one. They have
a network of medical doctors and medical professionals and I
found MO through Leaf four one one. And you guys
have medical doctors, you have obg y ns from Harvard
I and who actually medically review papers that you write

(52:10):
and your resources. So again, if anyone wants to you
could get a fifteen minute appointment. Go to more Canickcare
dot com. You can get an appointment there. If you
go to more Canniccare dot com, forward slash appointment and
on their social media they're at more Caniccare. We are

(52:35):
coming close to the close of the show it and
it is Valentine's Day now if you want to trial it.
I looked up some of the top four cannabis Valentine
themed dates and I saw that pairing chocolate with cannabis

(52:57):
was a big one. I saw love potions, perfumes, and
essential oils. As Moe explained, the sensation you feel when
you're smelling the scent. You know there are cannabis delivery services,
but nothing gives me more pleasure than going to a
farmer's market picking up an apple and smelling it. Will

(53:19):
the real og cush please stand up? Will the real
Macintosh apple please stand up? You can't go by labels
or names. We need a new name and convention. That's
another episode. But go touch it, feel it, see how
you react. Speak to a guide. And if you're looking
for fun things to do tonight. Aside from potions, which

(53:41):
you said, you could start topically and the aromatherapy, the
aromatic sense, the power that sense have, you could get
a CBD infused massage oil, cannabis scent, a candle to
help set the mood in a very sumple, subtle, relaxing way.
It's not just rosy. There's actually cannabis but bouquets available

(54:03):
in Los Angeles. We have some wonderful flores putting together
me right right?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Oh okay, well I will talk to my buddies about that.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
You could do a cannabis infused activity for Valentine's Day.
You can, you know, instead of dinner in a movie,
try a cannabis friendly paint sash or puzzle night, infuse
cooking class, go to a CBD spawn night. You know,
so whether you're in a couple with yourself, self care love.

(54:40):
It's all about microdosing and you know, and closing out
the show, I'd like to just I'd like to I
like to share fun facts. I'm sorry, guys, this is
what I call a not so fun fact. So, mo I,
you know Valentine's Day is named after say Valentine. All right,

(55:01):
we kind of all know that. While there's a couple
of legends out there surrounding his story, mo did you
know the most commonly accepted one, the most commonly accepted
origin story of poor Saint Valentine and Valentine's Day is
that this poor guy, he was a priest in Rome

(55:23):
during the reign of Emperor Claudius the Second in the
third century. According to the story, Claudius banned marriages for
young men, believing that single men made better soldiers. Valentine,
our dear saint, however, he defied the Emperor's orders and

(55:46):
he continued to marry couples in secret. When this was discovered,
he was arrested and sentenced to death. Yep, and that
goes out to the Last Prisoner Project trying to get
everyone on serving life sentences for marijuana out. Yeah. Right,

(56:10):
So while in prison, Valentine is said to have healed
performed the miraclely healed the jailer's blind daughter, and they
became really close friends. Talk about intimacy. This good date
did not, however, commute his sentence. Just like all these
wonderful stories about cannabis, it's still locked up. Before his execution,

(56:36):
on February fourteenth, Valentine sent her a note signing it
from your Valentine makes me want to cry. The phrase
is still used in love letters today. So while the
exact origins of the holiday are not substantiated, there's several

(56:58):
floating around this action of love and romance. It did
grow over time, and Valentine's Day eventually became a celebration
of love and affection. I didn't mean to bring the
mood down everybody on this. Yeah, maybe you got a
strain for that. No, no, no, call Camo. But the

(57:19):
advocate and me I can't help but point out the
similarity between the injustices and human rights violations faced by
same Valentine and the ongoing criminalization of marijuana. Valentine's defiance
of the Emperor's unfair and unconscionable laws led to his

(57:40):
wrongful imprisonment, and eventual death. This strikes me as similar
to how today's cannabis laws are rooted in outdated, harmful
and misguided policies. Just as Valentine's actions sought to create
love and union, today people are fighting to legalize cannabis,

(58:04):
unlocking its potential to enhance wellness, intimacy, and freedom. Both
Saint Valentine's story and the criminalization of cannabis highlight the
consequences and impact guys of harmful laws that stand in
the way of love, freedom, and human connection. We must

(58:24):
question who the laws are serving before just saying yes
or no. Please just say yes or no based on knowledge.
Just say no with a K and a W. Know
that's all the time we have for today, but I

(58:45):
hope you've enjoyed this special Valentine's Day edition of Just
Say No. A huge thank thank you to my amazing guest,
Maureene dubat Savage Marine. Thanks, we will definitely have you back.
And to my listeners, thanks for joining me your curiosity
and desire to just say no with a K and
a W. K n ow it fuels the conversations that

(59:08):
truly will change the way the world sees green or red.
So if you enjoyed today's episode, be sure to subscribe
to greenbelife dot com, leave us a review, and share
this episode with someone who might benefit from the information.
A cannabis guide. Until next time, I'm Maria Calibrey's. You've
been listening to Just Say No on KCAA Radio ten

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a wonderful, a safe, a beautiful Valentine's Day. Just Say
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