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October 1, 2025 97 mins
Dawn and Jill continue their conversation as Moms, about their daily lives impacted by the escalating biodigital convergence! We were joined today by special guest Kim Wells who writes a fantastic blog~ https://kim4truth.substack.com/
Kim's links!
https://www.recipetineats.com/corn-chowder-with-bacon/#recipe
Find Dawn: https://www.facebook.com/dawn.christine.50422
Find Jill: https://x.com/jwoodworthtalks
Kim's links:
https://www.iec.ch/system/files/2023-10/wsdcombinedpdf_0.pdf
https://www.bitchute.com/playlist/03kNhjTvrXrn/ Older research on same subject
https://woodnstone820.substack.com/p/microscopy-images-cbds-morgs-blood - see for yourself
https://x.com/Kwells04Wells/status/1910004645168054496 WTAF is in people's blood?
https://rumble.com/v5m6lwq-ublfs-unknown-blood-life-forms.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP3oXOXTXyU building a liquid metal robot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMitqiRQTOw liquid metal robot from 9 years agoDonations welcome to cover costs!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We're live.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hello everybody, welcome Episode seven. Just two moms chatting or
waiting for Kim to join us. I'm sure she'll be
here soon enough, so we'll just start chatting. Ah, yeah,
we're we're having some trouble streaming to Don's Facebook, so
we are on my ex account. I'm gonna see if

(00:25):
I'm on Facebook at all. I don't even think I
could stream to Facebook, but I could share the X video,
let's see. I'm just going to my profile. Bear with
us people, We'll be right with you now. I don't
see it. Crap. I guess it only lets me stream too.

(00:47):
Two places Rumble. Let me check. Hopefully I'm on Rumble
and we could put a note on your account, like
I could tag you or something, say or on Rumble.
Anybody on Rumble see us. Let's me anyways, we're really
excited about to talk to us.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Hi, Joe, Oh we see somebody yeah on X.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh yeah somewhere that I can't get this to go
on my Facebook though, But there literally is no option
for me if I'm on your account, it gives me
no option to add any of my my really frustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We are live on Rumble, so that's that's good. I'm
going to just post on Facebook that we're having some
streaming difficulties and I'll tag you having.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Some tech difficulties, she's Kim said, shall be in two minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, perfect, Maybe we can get this all started. There
was anybody watching, we just tend we tend to work
on camera.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Uh rumble.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Okay, here's the link, and I got to tag you.
Oh that's right, I don't have a touch screen there, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
One such Joe one.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah that's right. Okay, I'm gonna shut that down. Hi's
everybody out there watching really excited to talk to Kim.
She's got an awesome sub stack, and we hopefully we

(02:30):
may be sharing some documents. Nothing too technical, just a
very very uh mellow, but exciting also discussion. I'm just like,
what's the matter.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Oh, I'm just trying to get this.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Get my light on because the lighting's bad, and you
know all this stuff, and of course I have no
chords because I moved my stuff around.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Take your time.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'll just talk about Yeah, we just got a dog
in our in our household, and that's throwing everybody off kilter.
So we're all adjusting to that. Out here at Orange, Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, how is it going with your dog?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
It's going, it's going good. It's you know, I didn't
there's no way. It's like childbirth or having a kid.
There's no way to really prepare other than to just
experience it. Yep, she didn't like my my husband at first.
She's warming up to him slowly. That three day decompression period,

(03:40):
like they tell you, like it takes at least three
days for them to even you know, come out of there.
That was so true. Like after the third day, she
started racing around just being.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, you know, because you have three.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Rescues, which is incredible. When I see the work that
it's taking to just get started with her, I can't
imagine having the dogs that you had that were they
weren't puppies, were they?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
No, none of them were pup I mean they were young.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, two of.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Them were younger, but none of them were like little puppies.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, anyways, hats off to you for just sounds like
so much work that's rewarding. Yeah. Yeah, that's the other
piece of it. I thought, the dog is super attached
to be right now, and just like the minute I
walk in the room, she's all excited and coming up
to be Yeah. So I am a little nervous about

(04:41):
going jumping into the whole vat thing though, I mean, yeah,
I bet yeah, just because of all the requirements. Are
you Are you okay there with your setup? Looks you
look right?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I got the light on so I can see better
and stuff. U. I had to move it.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I moved it because I want to have access to
my computer. So if I want to like look anything up,
I can do that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yep, so you can reach it now.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I was thinking maybe i'd pull up Kim's blog while
we're waiting for if I can scream share it.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I have her blog on my computer right now. Wait,
we do.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Excellent. Let me just go.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'll show it here. There's Kid's blog.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh you got it. Okay, I was just going to
do the same thing. Yes, go read it. We will
be discussing if you're Yeah. So what's to do with you, John?
What biodigitaluery are you dealing with me?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I saw on my husband's on one of his email
work emails they had to switch their system over to.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
The I set you that thing.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
It's it's the anyways, it's the digital system that they're
now switching over to at Volvo.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So right, so that's like.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, full steam ahead with the AI and they're going
to be, you know, right into the What does he
think about it? You know, he doesn't like he understands
it because obviously he's I've been researching this a long time.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I share the information. But like they at.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Work, they don't explain any of this to the employees.
They're just like, yeah, they don't, it's no.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
They just send them a link here, you gotta digitize
your phone. But we're using new software. This is what
you do.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
But there's no explanation for how where none of it,
Like they're not talking to them about the digual twins
or how the smart factory really works, or how your
body is connected to all of this, you know, like
when I tell my husband, I'm like, why do you
think you come home from work completely drained? Because all

(07:05):
of the lights and stuff that they use in that
factory or energy harvesting off your body, the light are
all of that is connected to you, But they don't
tell you any of that.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
They're never going to tell you that you're part of it.
Your body is connected to this, right.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Right, So yeah, he comes home pretty drained. I mean
it's long day anyways, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
They're having him work ten to twelve hours a day,
so you know, and the start time is six am,
so they're you know, up at four am.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
So no personal life. Basically go to work all week
and yeah, come home drained. Yeah yeah, yeah. Wow.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's just wild to watch it happening in real time
in my life because I've been researching this for so
many years now, and you know, saying this is what's coming,
and this is what's coming, and then it's like, holy shit,
it's here, Like it's here, and the people still aren't
getting it.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
It's like no, it's it's in every sector of our lives. Right,
It's just if you're not a researcher, you have no
idea what it is, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I think it's funny you know that they have
all well it's not funny, but they have all those
textbooks too that they're teaching in school. Like some people
will approach me and they're like sending me these like
kind of scare tactic Instagram clips about the nano or whatnot, Like, well,
they're there. You can go to college and do an
entire course on it. It's like that nothing's connected. So

(08:40):
people aren't like realizing that they're we're the we're the bootloader,
the jump.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
They've they've been teaching high school the ie GEM, you
know students, they've been teaching the high school students molecular
biology and all this for a long time.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Sorry, right, Yeah, but very few people put two and
two together and consider that, like the long term consequences
of this and what we're actually doing. And I know
that's by design that they they slip it out and
it's all there. So I guess that's when we participate
where they feel like we are choosing yes because there

(09:23):
is no other choice. And that's the other thing we're
talking again about this week. Was you made that clip
on Facebook about the digital ID.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, yeah, because someone someone came in my comments
and said, gone, you're you're just giving.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Up on the digital ID. Okay, Well, I'm not giving up.
I know that it's coming. I know we've already had
the real ID many years before the digital ID comes.
You know, we've had the real ID and many people
already have the real ID. It's nothing new. The digital
idea is coming. Yep, whether or not you participate or not,

(10:01):
or you know, my children, just because I don't want
I am speaking out against it doesn't mean that my
children won't grow up and have jobs and partake in.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It, right, Right, we can't expect that our adult children
are going to make the same choices and want to
minimize their own connection to the grid like we do.
I mean, we can't. I think that's something that really
needs to be talked about because we're not thinking it's through.
If we're going around thinking that we can protect our

(10:34):
entire family from what's happening. Right, my kids are in
their twenties. I can't tell them not to do these
things you know, were adults.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, my oldest son, he's twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
He's already into his like third interview at.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
A Google data center near our house.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
So and this is like he's calling me excited and
he's like, Mom, you don't understand.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
This is my dream job.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
So it like we're right, right, what are you supposed
to Yeah, they've grown up with the tech. They're not
afraid of the tech. They're using the tech. My son
is and he works in it for Boeing right now,
So you know, like the tech, the tech, they see
potential for it, and they're not afraid of it.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's like a whole different mindset, right, and so balancing
not is is tricky.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's just trying to teach them, well, do you know
how your body is affected by this? Do you know
how the AI affects you and your neurons?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I mean that's just the part, like trying to teach them.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
To listen if you if you mentioned that stuff, or
do you.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I think it's like I think with him sometimes, you know,
like but mainly in one ear and out the other.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's like, yeah, well uh yeah, I'm trying to think
about Yeah. Same with my mind kids. If I bring it
up and the digital idea I had to, I ended
up getting it I had.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I don't know if I could take a bash now
you know.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
No, Well, my husband and my oldest son got the
real ID when we went.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
A bunch of years ago.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, a long long time ago, so you know, and
we didn't we didn't know what it was then. It
was just when we went to renew our licenses when
we moved to South Carolina, it was like, hey, or
get the real ID and because my husband.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Had to travel all the time for work.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Of course he's going to get the you know, he's like,
we didn't think, we didn't think anything about it.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Right, right, And that's so many people, I mean most people.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yes, and now now now we understand. But yeah, again,
my my husband has a job. What's he has a job?
He works, He works in a factory. The factory's gonna
be turned into a smart factory. This is their push
to use AI. You know, this is a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
This. If you have a job, you're going to be particular, You're.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Going to be participating in some way because of all
of the standards that have already put into place, and
all of the different businesses have to follow those standards
if they want to remain in business, right.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Right, And so the rapture is not going to come
take us away.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
No, no, dang, we just ascended up to the cloud,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
My guys in healthcare I too. I mean, And I
hear him talking and using a lot of the terminology
that I've heard Sabrina and others that are educating on
this share and I wear my shirt around and we talk.
We talk about it quite a bit. A set of
documents every now and then that sometimes he I think
he does try to read them, Yeah, and I think

(13:54):
trying to speak his language. It's more he's probably more tech,
understand is it more than me? And what are you
supposed to do? Just start a new career?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Go, yeah, right, that's that My husband.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
He's you know, he's got his mechanical engineering degree and
that's what he's always done, worked in manufacturing. And you
know he's in his late forties. Now what is he
going to do? You want him to just go become
a carpenter?

Speaker 3 (14:21):
I mean, you know, like he's.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, exactly. I'm just checking to see if she said
any more messages. Yeah, I know, we're not gonna we
just it just keeps coming up because of the I
guess is what I see is like the use these,
use these healthy products, use these, you know this like
organic stuff, you know this Like I'm not quite sure

(14:48):
how that ties into what I'm saying, but like this
US and them mentality, like right, you know, like if
you can't withdraw or present yourself like you're super holistic
and right, you're doing all the you know, like you've
gotten your applicat amalcols taken out or you know, you're
it's almost yeah, like this like view of how we're

(15:09):
supposed to be sets us up for such a sense of.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well there was there were so many accounts in the
beginning that were coming out, and they're like hammering on
the people.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Do you know what you're eating? And you know, sending
out the white papers. There's nano and that you're doing this.
Oh you got a tattoo, there's nano in that.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Well you get it.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
You go into the dentist nano and you know, telling
everyone don't participate in anything, don't Well, okay, so let's
stop eating, let's stop drinking, let's stop breathing exactly. I
mean there, I think a lot of people they were
trying to use that as fear. Well, we had to
live in this world and this is our world, and

(15:50):
this is what they're doing to us.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
We're being converged.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So this is happening. It's real, and yeah, let your
neighbor do their own thing.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Obviously, we want to minimize what we can and we
want to avoid what we can. But to make everybody
live in fear and shame people for.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
What they might what they might do, is silly.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, like I think if we're more comfortable talking about
like maybe how we're struggling with withdrawing from some of it.
Like I'll just admit that I occasionally use Bluetooth headphones
when I run because they're super It's just way easier.
But I you know, I've been trying. I've been trying
to go out and not do it, and I'm succeeding
at that, but it's not been easy to break that habit.

(16:42):
So I wonder if there's other people out there that
that mess up. I'm sure use a freaking.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
I'm sure there's tons of people that do all kinds
of things.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
They just don't want to admit it. Because if you admit.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Anything online, you get shamed. Exactly, you get shamed for anything.
I mean it's everybody has an opinion online, and everybody's constantly.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
And everyone online, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, and like we yeah, it's like we're not allowed
to be real, So we're gonna we're gonna be as
real as possible.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Right here?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Will we wait for cam?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I haven't seen that she's coming. Let me just shoot
her another message. See.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, like at my husband's work, they're encouraged they
can keep an AirPod in one AirPod in there, So
I mean, yeah, those people just don't understand though, that
how that AirPod actually works and hooks up to the
Internet of Things, and how their body is also hooked

(17:46):
up to the Internet of things, and how they can
use that to spy on you listen to things.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
That's just the ignorance of people that they don't understand
all of this technology as it has a good side,
but it also has a side that could be used
for bad.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
And that's how they that's how they get us. Yeah,
Like I heard somebody say like ninety eight percent truth
and two percent still there still not completely true if
we were saying it's you know, some good mostly good
for a lot of for while some of the stuff.
But yeah, people don't understand how it's hooked up and

(18:28):
their bodies hooked up. Yeah, and the politics saying too,
this is kind of funny. Well, I was driving through
my local Talent. There was a no King's protest, a
pretty big one, and they were all along the side
of the road and I was driving with my son
and I rolled the I rolled the window down.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
I shout out the window, it's the biodigital convergence. This
is and uh yeah, I don't know if anybody heard me,
but kind of how good.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And somebody, I think it was Joe that was saying
and on AXD she wants to hand out like flyers
or something at protests and m M yeah, yeah, educate
people since like we're saying, they don't know like a
little a little hey, maybe you should be more worried about.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
This then, right, right, It's it's like in my in
my city, when the Charlie Kirk thing happened.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, a lot of the a lot of the restaurants
tend to.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Or people that own restaurants, people that work in restaurants
tend to be more of the liberal mindset. Right, It's
just yes, it's kind of It's just kind of a
thing I noticed. So those several of the business owners made,
you know, the little remarks about it and got in
trouble because the social.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Media blew up on them.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
And you know what, people are willing to shut your
business down over it. You know, if you're talking, they
want a boycott, they want you done for which you know,
it is tacky to say something during a time like that.
I mean, if you if you are a business owner.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
It's tacky.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's just tacky.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
It's tacky, Yes, it is.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
It doesn't matter your political stance to even comment on
that is tacky.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Okay, it just is. No matter what side you're on,
it's tacky.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
And but people just don't understand, Like you're making those
comments on social media.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I guess what they're data collecting you, And yes, they're they're.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Putting you in a category for the comments that you're making.
So be mindful of what you're saying online. And that's
what these people don't get their business owners and they're
out there talking stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Well, guess what you're now in a data set for.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
And you're you're kind of scene as a threat. Have
fun when that digital ID comes around.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Right, Yeah, I know everything that you're like flagging yourself
with it's going to be a potential red flag.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
That kind of ties into like the pre crime stuff
that Oh Sean non Foxer did a really good did
you watch that video he did recently?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm so behind.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Oh I know, I yeah, it's really hard for me
to keep up too. But for some reason I clicked
it on. I was in the car and he was
he was sharing other people talking about how that's gonna happen,
you know, where you might not have you might have
said something made on social media and everybody has heard
about this, and and your your car won't start, or

(21:44):
you can't get your bank account, and they're predicting, you know,
they're predicting based on I was trying to explain it
to my son, because he follows most kind of in
the same place I am, as far as not at
the same level of understanding. But he's he doesn't like
the electric cards. He's very concerned about being turned into

(22:04):
a robot, you know, And so with his disability, I
try to, like I don't want to say, I try
to talk to him at his level. But we were
talking about the pre crime, and I realized that I
was probably going to scare him a little bit, like
he was gonna overthink on that, so so we stopped
talking about it.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
But yeah, well it is it is scary what they
could do though, I mean, you could say the wrong thing, and.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, and it makes you paranoid about your entire thought
process sometimes, like almost outside outside of the more time
you spend on the platforms interacting in these weird ways
that yeah, like I don't know. I find I find
myself questioned, having doubts that I don't know if I
would have if I wasn't so, if I if I

(22:51):
hadn't just been on social media, or like uh yeah,
like what's this person thinking about me? You know, like
did I say, oh my god, what did say in
that comment? Maybe I offended somebody and stuff that I
really really it's overkill and overthinking. Like you posted a
video too about that don that I appreciated about. You

(23:13):
can't control, like, you can't control someone else's response to
what you say.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Right, And if you're worried about their response, you're not
going to be honest with what you're saying because you're
you're you know, you're gonna you're gonna water down what
you have to say because you're afraid of how they
might respond.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I've kind of gotten I've kind of gotten.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Over that on social media though, because these these people,
these people have come at me for years now, and
I'm like, I don't care about your opinion.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Okay, go ahead, I don't care.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I will say what I have to say and if
you don't like it, oh well.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
All right, here's kim.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Uh. You know, can you hear me? Yes, I Kim,
I'm hey, I'm gonna have to try her. I can't
hear you. Okay, it's right cold on.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Sorry with no worries. You take your time. Yeah, social
media is a beast and you have to have some
thick skin.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Don Yeah, I've grown. Oh, I've grown very thick skin.
Now I'll come on here and I'll take on all
of Facebook.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Hmm yep, m.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh, where'd she go?

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Shee?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
They will need to connect their mike cam before I
can add them. Yeah, I had to change my setting.
I don't know if you can hear me, Kim, but
I had to change my setting to using my headphones.
Sometimes you can do it without headphones too, But we'll
just keep chatting while you hopefully you can figure it out.

(25:01):
I really want to talk maybe even if she can't
come on with the camera.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Well, I hear I hear a movement.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah. So Kim was mentioning just not being on X
too much because like having like physical some physical like
symptoms after being on those platforms, and I'd been thinking
about that just how in the at night I put
my phone in a far day cake bag, like I

(25:35):
don't know what time, and I don't open it up
till like the next morning, and just in that time period,
I am like anxious about picking it up. It's like this,
It's like it's touch that thing and just be sucked
into this world. Then I come in to see people,
see you and and other a few other friends. But

(25:56):
it's it. I noticed more and more just wanting to
be on and get off, you know, be on it,
get off it, not just stay a scroll because I'll
get up from my computer or something and just feel
exhausted to the point where I want to go take
a nap.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Right, So, I'm not a scroller. I know people make
comments to me, don't didn't you see my didn't you
read my message? Didn't you see my post I made?
And it's like, no, I didn't. I probably didn't. I don't.
I don't scroll that much.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
I tried to, like go to some of my friend's
pages and look, but you know, I I know the
tech that they're using on here I don't like.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
So I I'm cautious.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
I go on and I'm I'm putting information into the algorithms.
I'm not going in for information from the algorithms.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, I know you do that, and I
pretty much do the same thing. Although she she's coming in.
I'm going to add you to the stage. Can you
can we hear you?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
You still can't get the me.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I can't really hear you.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I can there, she is.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Sorry if I'm yelling trying the headphone.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I can hear her. Fine, can you hear her?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I can hear it. I can hear you.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Sort of, sort of.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Can you do it better without headphone?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hearing you from my phone? If you can hear me, though,
I can. I can hear you. It's just very quiet.
I think it's okay, Okay, let me turn up.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I've turned up my volume.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Cann I'm so bad. Can you hear her technology, No,
it sounds like I can't. I have my headphones in,
but it sounds like it might still be coming the
sound out of my phone. But I think I can
hear you.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Fine, Okay, fine enough, We'll do well. We'll we will
just keep going.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Thanks for joining hi, Thanks for having me barreling like that.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
If you wish you no worse, no worries. Yeah, Joe said,
it's a bit muffled, but yeah, we'll keep going.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
To connect it to my car, better. Can you hear me? Now?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I hear you fine.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I can hear I can hear you fine too, Kim.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, I did it for me then, okay, clarity.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I just realized I had all these comments were there
and I hadn't been putting them up. I'm sorry people.
Thank you so much for being here and and chatting
with us. So, Kim, yeah, I met you, I think
just posting on X and just really like it seemed
like you were doing you were really doing a lot

(28:52):
of research and then I found it. Then we were
going to have you on the panel, and that kind
of fell through the first panel. So oh, I was
really excited that you wanted to come on and tell
us a little bit about your you know, when you
kind of I hate to say woke up, but you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, you know when you.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Saw that things were going off the rails with the
you could just like tell us.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah. Well, I will say for like probably ten fifteen years,
I was kind of more a loner because I had
noticed a big change in people. I was living in
Mintalk for most my mind Talk New York, so it
was very different. I don't know, it almost seems like

(29:40):
they were trying things out there first, maybe you know,
a small, little secluded place, but very much how everyone
is now like trying very fake, very zombie like, you know,
it's that they don't hear you. And yeah, so I
kind of just kept to myself mostly, you know, but yeah,

(30:00):
I guess con did and all that is when I
started realizing things were really odd. Yeah, you know, for
me it was different because we moved actually the same
day that my daughter, i mean, my kids last day
of school was, and then we were moving, you know,

(30:22):
across the country, and it happened to be the same
day that every kid had the last day and everything
was shut down for COVID, And yeah, we wound up
having to leave actually a couple of days early because
we thought they were going to close the bridge. We
weren't going to be able to get out of New York.
But anyway, so everything wound up falling through from the

(30:43):
time we left New York to the time we got
to where we were moving. So we spent two years
because at first you just couldn't talk to anybody, like
really anybody looking for a place. So we spent two
years kind of bouncing around. How many kids, what's the

(31:04):
three kids, and we had a dog, a cat, and
a chinchilla, all of us packed in this car.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
So holy wow.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I mean we found some pretty cool deals actually because
nobody was vacationing and so we were there by ourselves.
But we actually got to stay in some really nice
places for pretty good deals, you know. So there were
some there were some good things, and my kids were
actually at one point like begging me, we just want
to quarantine. I'm like, you have no idea what you're saying.

(31:37):
But anyway, but in that sense too, I was never
away from public. I couldn't be away from the public
because here I was in and out offices and stuff, sure,
and around other people, not that many, but yeah, it
just seemed like, yeah, it wasn't what was actually at

(31:58):
what was being played on the news did not look
like real life. And really actually when it was the
rioting with the BLM and whatnot, I mean I was
all over. You know. We wound up realizing we weren't
going to find something right away where we were looking,
so we wound up taking advantage and kind of bouncing

(32:19):
around and seeing some other places. But nowhere was I
seeing this divisive, you know, miss between people like I. Yeah,
everybody was cool with everybody if you're nice. It's really see.
I see it more of just the people that think
they're better. And then there's you know, regular people, and

(32:42):
they're always trying to make other groups and categories. It's
simple to just be nice, you know. I mean, I
see you at all. But yeah, so that's what I
was looking into that. But in twenty twenty one is
when I got hit like a free trained by the
biodigital convergence. Okay, and that was from the inside, so

(33:06):
I had no idea. Yeah, I know, I knew things
were funny. I was looking into things like you know,
with the pandemic and those movies and you know, so
I was already open. And I will state that I
had zero faith in the Justice Department or any authority

(33:26):
figures at this point. I had gotten cussed around pretty
good with that, just trying to get help from them.
But anyway, which is why I may have been introduced
a little early. So yeah, I didn't I didn't take
any PCRs. I didn't have any shot, but pretty sure

(33:46):
it's pretty similar to what the people that did get
vaccinated and are having issues.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
But I didn't know what it was, Well, how did
you first start feeling?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
I guess you're gonna so it started and this, yeah,
all right, so it started in twenty nineteen. I had
this like very painful I guess you'd call it a sist,
but it was on the eyegraph, so it's like the
course is painful. And I tried to leave it alone,
and I did pretty much, but it would just come

(34:19):
back every once in a while, like really painful and
never material I never come to the surface and whatnot.
So it was actually when I was in I was done.
It was two years one. I had it for two
years there and I's had enough and I didn't care.
I was ready to scoffle it out myself, you know,
like I didn't care what it was done. And so

(34:42):
when I cut it open, so now I couldn't see anything,
but it felt like there was little pieces of like
glass metal falling on my skin in certain places and
where I felt that developed like sure, you know, like
I guess like the lesion if you will, And yeah,

(35:05):
I couldn't see anything for a while. They wouldn't heal up,
they wouldn't dry up. But about four weeks intew it
I actually could see these pieces. Now, I don't know
they were growing, if they were connecting, they were really
weird looking, like like how scary? Yeah, no it was.

(35:27):
It was not good. Yeah, And there's a lot of
people who've been dealing with this for like decades. And
I do want to point out that's another thing. A
lot of medical professionals not only hid but abused a
lot of people, a lot of people, And they would
come in with these technological looking things, sometimes hanging out

(35:50):
of their skin, and they wouldn't even observe them. There
was a category it was a delusional parashito. So they
thought all these people they were crazy and just thinking this.
Meanwhile they have physical weird fibers that they can't identify. Yeah,

(36:14):
like these HEXTSA guys, same type of stuff that you
see the micros for this show. And now like this
stuff has been in people's bodies and probably all of
ours to a degree. Yea, I will say too if
I'm bouncing around.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
But fine.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I was very grateful and have a lot of respect
for a guy named Clifford Carnacom, and for decades he's
been testing air, water, soil samples. A lot of people
with more not a lot, but several people with Morgellan's
teamed up with him and he was investigating what these

(36:53):
things are or trying to. But the thing is he
would send these air or soil samples and he stopped
getting responses, and I'm talking from the Air Force and
Environmental Protection Agency, and they just ignored him, ignored him

(37:15):
and refused they couldn't identify this stuff, but they wouldn't respond.
So he wound up making a name for it, which
he now says is synthetic biology. He called it cross
domain bacteria. But you can go to if you're interested,

(37:37):
because it's a good way to see. This is the
research and development in my mind, one hundred percent, and
they did a really good job of covering it up
and throwing anybody making a foster trying to get even
just diagnosed with it in mental hospitals and whatnot. They
had a really good grip on that for a really
long time. And I haven't heard many professionals say any

(38:00):
about that per se, but a couple that said absolutely,
they've seen it widespread as far as these same looking fibers,
which if you look at the microscopy, they grow out
of what looks like a hydrogel or and air bubble. Wow.
So you know you don't see it at first. At first,

(38:23):
you just you could do a urine spit. A lot
of them do blood and you just put it, you know,
somewhere and you gotta let it sit for a couple
of days and it'll dwelling this stuff and back where
Clifford's carnacom. I meant to print it out at least

(38:45):
ten years ago, maybe more. He was. Yeah, he's got
several articles about like frequency induced disease is what he
called it, and it was, and it's basically the same,
the same thing where the electricity is growing these like
fiber match or fibers, you know, out of what looks

(39:07):
like nothing, you know. And I don't know how I
got into it where I'm at, but I'm gonna break
his techniques. But I feel like I'm no, no, that's really.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, that's like just crazy. My mind is like, well,
I mean I read you, I've read your blog, so
I had some idea, but you know, I never really
talked to anybody beside till I met you that this
has happened to so profoundly.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, And you know, I did talk to a lot
of people in twenty one and twenty two when I
first started reaching out and just I started looking for
other people just to let them know you're not crazy,
because in twenty one there was a huge difference. I mean,
I don't think it was just from my devices, but

(40:00):
I guess there's a possibility. But when I went looking
for any type of answer or clue, there was nothing,
not even more yelling things. Really yeah, And then I noticed,
probably the early twenty two, I started seeing some videos
that were very old start popping up about we're gelling,

(40:22):
you know, so they I think that's somewhat would happen
with these targeted individual groups too. First of all, my
heart goes out to them, but they're they're like a
target for infiltration if you will, you know, That's what
I worry about in those groups. But also they were
shut out so good for so long. I'm not sure

(40:47):
the point, but it definitely seems like more than just
that it got out of control and they couldn't continue
the information themselves like they decided it was they were
gonna let all these stories out. Maybe people, That's my guess.
You know, that's always something I worried about. Shoes like
I didn't. I never wanted to scare anybody talking about

(41:10):
what happened, you know. Yeah, but now it's a little
better because I haven't felt a lot of things that
if you want, I can go into more detail. But
it was a lot of artificial growth. And actually, I'll
quickly say those spots right within about four weeks I

(41:31):
could see and it was like about the sides of
the grain of sand or something maybe and what I
think they call it janice ja n us where it
could be either two or more sides are completely different.
So you look at it at one angle and it's like,
you know, black, and you turn it not even you know,

(41:52):
you turn it a little bit, and it's so transparent
that it looked like nothing was there, even though it's
right in front of my face, you know, like uh,
and the shiniest materials and the fibers, you know. Unfortunately,
I just don't understand. I'm pretty sure, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, Wow, I don't understand how it could be people
could deny that that you've actually got physical evidence of
what's coming out of.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Your body or in your body. It's crazy how many
people then they would call them a matchbox patients because
they would collect them a bunch of them and go
into the doctor and they'd call them crazy, delusional parastosis.
And they really had that lockdown for decades decades. Wow.

(42:44):
And I have a hard time believe in anybody that
would see cut surgeries anything like that did not see
a lot of it, like because you know, like in
two thousand and five, I believe it was the Clifford carnacom.

(43:04):
I will put links here if you want, yeah, to
verify so you could see. But he could not find
a normal blood sample anywhere in two thousand and five.
This what he called crush domain bacteria, this CBD microbe
that essentially winds up if they can do several things.

(43:25):
But one of the things is also changing over the
blood cells, changing them from biological to artificial. And that's
something that a lot of the microscopists are seeing too now.
But he has it for decades. And yeah, he could
not find any blood sample back then without it not

(43:47):
saying that nobody, but he went to remote areas and
tested that the you know, the mountains, the soil, the air,
and he definitely you know, related to the spraying that
can trails. He has quite a few almost comical assircations

(44:08):
older from the Air Force and other you know groups
that clean ridiculous things. You know that that this is normal,
these these lines, these grids in the sky, you know
what I mean? But I do, Yeah, that's wild because yeah,

(44:28):
you're it's right in front of everybody's face. But they
still deny it. You know, I don't know now. I
guess there's a little bit changing there.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
But they have so many they have so many uh
little groups so set up to cover up for the
uh the spray and the sky, I mean, like the
Nivaru groups. They they they will tell you that they
are spraying in the sky to cover up the planets
that are appearing daily in our sky, that they cover

(44:59):
up in the ass stroids. They say that they they
say that they spray all of that so that we
can't see the asteroids on the planets that pass us
daily interest.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I never heard that long. I heard that it was,
you know, some sort of antidote they were spraying on
at the point.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Ye, it's the good, the good stuff they're spraying.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
No shame though, right, they just they got no shame
in their game. They just they'll just lies. It doesn't
matter like that it doesn't make sense. I've noticed that
with a lot of authoritative figures, they're really not used
to being challenged, and they're not very slick at dealing

(45:43):
with people who know what they're talking about coming at them.
I guess would be yeah, oh that.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Has to be Yeah, that had to be hard for you.
How did you like get through this? I mean, was
the blog? When did you start your blog and stuff?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I started that in twenty two And I should say,
all right again, yeah, I'll go back to the spots,
you know, and then I could see them and it
was probably another two months of these spots. What felt
like was going on inside was like you see like
tesla feresis, but like you know, not that bad. But

(46:22):
where and I'll put my picture too is it's easy
as to draw it, but like these spots seem to
all basically reach out and connect is what it felt
like throughout my whole body. And it was a couple
of different like material feeling things, some things wrapping up

(46:46):
concentration on the joints and the jaw and whatnot. But yeah,
so it got to a point I was just barely
hanging on. I don't know know I was doing okay,
but you know, barely, because I didn't know what the
heck was going on, and there was three days where

(47:10):
they came out or whatever came after my brain. It
felt like it like basically what I explained it as was,
it felt like there was a terminator shut grown under
my skin, right out of like metal and glass and wiring,
as weird as that sounds. And then it felt like
something literally came and cut my connection to my brain.

(47:31):
And for like three days, I was completely aware in
my head, but I couldn't verbalize like anything, and it
just it literally, I mean, you know, not trying to
sound crazy, but it literally felt like something was trying
to plug into my brain. And take that for what
you will. I let it know. There was no way

(47:55):
I was surrendering. I really didn't give it a second.
I never heard anything in my head voices. I've never
heard anything like that. I don't know if I would
have let it have a chance because I was pretty aggressive,
but yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we stopped after about

(48:16):
three days. There was a lot of brain frug and whatnot.
Things still kept to feel like they were growing a little.
But you know what, actually, and this is not medical
dice and don't do it. But a big part of
what seemed to break that because it was there was
a pulsating current and it was like at random, but

(48:38):
there was a spot in my check. If I touched it,
it would it would jolt, they will pulsate my heart
Like what a I guess, yeah, and I could, yeah,
but I accidentally electric cuted myself on my house just
about one ten electric book. And actually it was a

(48:59):
couple of times, just a couple of short exact that
almost immediately seemed to break the electrical connections. And even
this somewhat, I guess it was like a mesh layer,
is what it felt like, especially on the head, and
stuff started to feel like it was like breaking down.

(49:24):
And you know, it used to I used to be
able to feel this apparatus all the time, but then
there was times it would some of it would squeeze.
Other times it would just be painful. Like you know
certain areas you go that you know you don't feel good.
Maybe you know a big chain store, you know, with

(49:45):
the lights or something like that. The water, actually, I
still have a hard time going in cold or even
cool water. It's like this pain. I don't know but yeah,
that and I don't know if you've ever heard Actually
I wanted to ask you, have you ever experimented it

(50:09):
or not it's a bad word for it, but with
corn dioxide or mms.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Uh, I haven't. I've used d MS, Okay, but I
have not. I have not. I've been in group. I've
been in groups where people used it and we have
really really good results.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was asking because I've for
heard about it with autism and it really helping. But
I don't have anything experience.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
That I don't. It's like I was saying, my kids
were older when I really woke up to stuff. So
you know, there's only so many regiments I could implement
without them, uh, you know, pushing back a little bit.
But I am curious about it for that. But that's
that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
It comes up what I found, you know, and I'm
hesitating because I know everything is infiltrated. That's how I
feel like, really everything. But I still got to say
that was one of the saving graces for me too.
Actually I started taking that before my execution and it

(51:20):
started really up in my brain. But actually, what was
the most amazing for me, For I want to say,
at least ten years before that, when I had medical
imaging done for a melanoma. I never associated it with that.
But I can't think what else it destroyed. I don't

(51:42):
know something. I couldn't eat or drink like almost ever,
Like it was really hard ever to eat or drink
anything because my inside then I would actually it wouldn't
stay in, you know. And that was for a long time.
But I was already scared away from the medical field,
so I wasn't looking for answers. And I'm thankful for that. Yeah,

(52:03):
that's some That's something I worry about, you know. I
know it's it's necessary sometimes, but I really worry about
with all these new problems, everyone is going to be
just searching that these doctors and they and they put
these things do hurt you. They literally the papers say,
and it really bothers me, you know, and yet they

(52:26):
reactive meadows, you know, into your body. It's completely safe.
There's no side of that, like it it's not true.
First of all, how could it be. It's not like
like what, no, how do they get away with that?
But I know what they do. Yeah, So the first

(52:47):
time I ever tried m MS literally Mike, And it's
something you make a bottle, you drink it throughout the
day and it's really just the salt. Yeah, it's the
salt sodium claurite mixed with an acid, which hydrochloric acid
is like your stomach acid, and that's that's the one

(53:07):
I would use with it. But that activates it. So
when I first took it, my first sip, I could
feel my blood start moving like I all of a
sudden felt better than I did. I'm feeling the worst ever, basically,
just feeling better than I remembered sixteen years ago. Yeah,

(53:31):
and then all of a sudden and I could eat,
I could drink everything like almost immediately. So and it
does is it super oxygen needs your blood And I
really think that's a huge thing that's happening to all
of us for a long time from everywhere. You know,
you got the radiation drying us out and there's just

(53:54):
so much. But to me, instinctively, that's what felt like
was huge. That that really helped me out a lot
with the brain subs with pulling up and swelling and
a lot of that, because it does still feel like
there's artisficial things unfortunately working their way out. But they

(54:16):
feel like they're working their way out, and I'm very
grateful and I do want to yeah, not forget to
mention since twenty twenty two, I really don't feel any
of it, you know, as far as I'll feel it
if it's coming out and it's sharp like. But all
that other stuff, I'm really fortunate because there's a lot

(54:39):
of people.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, and in the comments, people are putting stuff in
the comments, And someone asked if you would speak on
bacterio phages.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Clarity asked that, yes, what about them?

Speaker 2 (54:53):
If you could speak on bacterial phage, Yes, yes, that.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Is a big thing I'm very interested in. So going
with my gut, and that one want to say is
follow your own gut, because it's brought me some really
incredible places, things that I don't know, you know, but
they make sense anyway. So, bacteria phages are basically everywhere.

(55:25):
They're the most abundant organisms on Earth. They're in us,
They're everywhere, and they their job naturally is to basically
attack bacteria and kill it so bad bacteria there there
are friends basically, but they've they've engineered them very a lot.

(55:51):
So I first ran into it in relation to the shot,
and it was a national lab talking about how this
was used to make the shots and basically says any
type of mRNA platform. I don't know if you know

(56:14):
that's fully true, but it basically says that, you know,
these are for it. So hold on, I know, I'm
going a little awry. So they engineered them so they
not only can attack, and they either can infuse themselves
and mix with the cells that it's attacking or bacteria,

(56:35):
or it goes in there and it's like a ticking
time bomb. It can be set off to explode whatever
sell it's attacking. And so they've engineered them to be
able to genetically modify our human cells as well. All
of it, you know. And I'm just going by what

(56:59):
I'm reading in the paper, so I don't take that
all is complete fat you know, they try to mess
us up, but it makes a lot of sense as
far as they're already everywhere. They were already everywhere, so
they just tweak it a little bit to get them
to the change a little you know what I mean.

(57:21):
I hope I made sense there.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
But yeah, no, definitely.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of different varieties. A lot of
them look like the especially in the beginning. I want
to say, like between twenty twenty twenty two, when whenever
you were seeing like a nano robot, there was I
can never find the same video. But it's like it
looks like a pole with like this octagonal pipe head

(57:49):
and that head holds whatever they put in there, and
it protects it really well. The caps it head right,
and then it kind of looks like a spider, you know,
you got the head yet like a little chef, and
then it's got these legs and that's how it. It
catches on to the cell and then it's like a

(58:10):
needle that actually punk comes out and punks it through
the cell to inject these materials. You can see how
that would be useful to them, you know what I mean.
But they are there are different types too. There's some
that are just look like a worm. But yeah, and
there's some they they can make them sell free now

(58:34):
or as the astroform if we got found as well
in space.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Oh my goodness, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah, so you wrote a blog on this and you
got a lot of feedback that must have been validating.
I guess to to start to write about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I can't you know, I wasn't really see invalidate. You know,
I'm saying that I'm not not in a bad way.
I'm just saying, you know, that was the one thing
I was grateful for. The only information I've found when
I first started looking was don't go to the doctor

(59:17):
offering anything to the doc. Don't And I'm very grateful.
So at that point I just knew, you know, okay,
and I was kind of used to people. I don't know,
it's not setting me up to look crazy, shall I
say on paper certain people, But yeah, that's not like

(59:38):
a concern of mine. But what I was concerned about
very much with how is anybody gonna deal with this
when it happened, and and want to keep trying to
get through it, you know what I mean, like like
feeling like they shouldn't give up, and some of the
things that worked for me, like this was a little

(01:00:00):
heartbreak and too because I was like so excited I
found this MMS. I thought that was going to be
like the answer for everybody. So at first I was,
you know, telling everybody and I've never heard anything bad happen.
But some people didn't seem to have as great a
results were noticeable. It didn't help them. Y, So then

(01:00:24):
I started to realize, yeah, everybody's a little different, you know,
if it's not a one size, sticks off solution. You know,
but I forget where it's starting with that. Yeah, So basically, yeah,
I just wanted to be there, like, and I first
wrote my first things and put it out so that

(01:00:46):
somebody could relate to it. Somebody that was this started
happening too, they could say, well, look I'm not the
only one. You know. That was part of my goal
and to reach out, like you could talk to me,
And I talked to yeah, a lot of people with
some really heartbreaking yeah stories, and just you know, everybody turns.
I'm just kind of unfortunately, like this whole brewing of

(01:01:12):
this biodigital convergence, it's just getting turned on by everybody,
your family and your friends, you know, all of a sudden, Yeah,
they think, but you're just lying. Like for me, when
I was twenty four, I got diagnosed as stage four melanoma.
Now that was a doctor diagnosis. I literally had to
go around to my friends and family who like were

(01:01:34):
acting like I was going to die and like convince
them that I was going to be okay. Oh, now
fifteen years later, I just send a message like there's
some funky stuff going up, No no answer, like yeah,
and I basically I don't try. But yeah, I think
I've always most most of my life makes sense now

(01:01:57):
as as far as like, I've never really been one
to care or really have other people's opinions affect me
good nactly, you know, mostly yeah, and for real you know,
like as a kid, you know, well I had there

(01:02:20):
was grown ups that were doing bad things, and I
wasn't like, you know, questioning myself. I knew there was
something wrong with them, you know what I mean. And
I'm very grateful for that. Yeah. Absolutely, I think it
helped prepare me. You know, it's interesting when things happen,
and especially when they're so profound, and I mean, now,

(01:02:43):
good luck trying to scare me or freak me out.
I mean, I think you gave me at all, you
know what I mean. But that is one thing. When
you get over something big, you're like, what, you know,
what do you got? Good? Gluck?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Yeah? Yeah, I hope I'm not. I feel like I'm
just the way.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
I never even knew about any of this until I
started posting Sabrina's videos and my Facebook inboxes like blew
up with people sending me videos of sores on their
body and things coming out of sores. People were sending
me pictures of their feces even and stuff coming out

(01:03:30):
of it, and I'm like, dude, I don't even know you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
It was trauma.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
It was traumatizing because people kept I stopped looking at
my inbox because I'd go in there and they would
just send me the craziest pictures. I was like, whoa,
we'nt a person.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I really know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
You know, the feces stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Though, I'm like, listen, I don't want to see what's
in your toilet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Any line.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
I draw the line at the toilet stuff, okay, like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Without like conversations beforehand.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Why I know. They're like, don don I need you
to see this? Please help me? Please? Can you show
Sabrina this? Please send this to Sabrina.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
I'm like, dude, Sabrina doesn't want.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
To see this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I promise you. I don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
It's so bad. It's just I think, yeah, like me
suffering for decades, and yeah, they can like where they
might be able to get some you know, somebody in
the late or an answer, and I think they just
don't know what to do in a way, you know, Yeah,
but I know what you mean. Yeah, they put it

(01:04:49):
all out there. Yeah yeah, and I'm sorry because that
yeah shot me when you don't know how the heck
even Yeah, you're shining to good stuff out and then
you're getting that Sam. Yeah, that's yeah, not helpful. You know.
That was another wild thing that until when I heard

(01:05:10):
Sabrina start the first I found on that sure and
he brought the receipts and I was like, heck, yeah,
you know, this is what it is. You know, like
I knew it felt like a tempted takeover of my
body that somebody wanted, like for physical control. I thought
I was still crazy maybe though, like I thought, that's

(01:05:32):
just what it felt like, like what is this? But anyway,
so when the biodigital convergence documents and all that, that
was like huge tended to some family members, no response.
It's like it's like I don't know whatever when it
happens to them, but you can't keep trying. What are

(01:05:54):
you going to keep trying?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Yeah, we were just saying that. I mean, there's only
so much you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
It's did and it's dead and it sucks. But you know,
especially with some of this stuff you put you and
and yeah, it seems the more we go along here,
the more stricted s getting. You're putting yourself at risk,
even you know, by harping on people, right, especially big

(01:06:21):
brother exactly, and they're they're happy to throw you for
an evaluation, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah, oh yes, yes, yes, especially yeah, any any kind
of square peg or whatever that's saying is yeah, I
don't stand out. Yeah yeah, wow, that's kim. Yeah, I
keep going.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Last thing, But because when I found Sabrina in my mind,
that was like about a year, I want to say,
twenty twenty. Well when actually Nonvacnor introduced Sabrina to everybody
you know and channel, that's when I found her. And
I was like, oh my gosh, I forgot In twenty nineteen,
I walked into like a hospital facility or a health

(01:07:12):
care facility, and randomly, nothing was happening to me at
this point that I knew of. I got very weirdly
sick in twenty eighteen, but that was it, and I
didn't know about any of this stuff. But for some reason,
I walked into this hospital facility, which I really never
even go into places like that because I never I

(01:07:33):
don't like the doctors for a long time, and I
feel like my insides are connected to their computer system.
I don't know why. And I kept looking at my
van and it was such a strong feeling. I said
it out loud like three times. And the person who
was with me that doesn't believe any of this stuff,
remembers that, and I'm just like when I realized, I

(01:07:55):
didn't even realize that at first, and I'm like, wow,
so that was real. So don't rush on what instincts. Man,
I don't know how my body knew things didn't new,
but it couldn't have been a coincidence. You know, so
many things your feel like that's our bodies have been

(01:08:17):
doing so much for us that we have don't realize,
you know, for all this time, and I think we
should give our bodies applaud for that. And I think
that's part of you know, it's serious. It is learning
all this stuff. The more you know, I feel like
it arms your body to be able to fight better too,

(01:08:38):
just the knowledge, uh, you know, look at all this
stuff because that we don't know, and it's fighting that
we don't have any clue about. And I think it matters,
you know, I think it helps absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah, I know, just in the time that I've been
more aware, just tuning in to my own body more. Yeah,
just feeling and feeling the goose, the pilo erection, learning
learning that to do that or at least to be
aware when it happens, right, which is like the first step,
I suppose, And.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
For sure I know it's all it's it's so wild,
you know, and it's so beautiful and yet like we
don't gets hot. Any of this like makes me so
yeah mad, because that's a big deal, you know, and
it makes sense. That's probably the biggest deal. Is like

(01:09:32):
everything's done by wireless electrical signaling inside our quantum bodies,
you know. And I'm pretty sure that's all what quantum
is as far as I see it. It's like our
perfect processes, our neurons, perfect firing language communication, you know,

(01:09:53):
and it's just there biommetically trying to overseek that, right,
I believe, you know, And I'm not in a denial way,
and there's systems are strong, but I truly believe it's
not going to be easy, but we can make it
through it, and I really do believe that, Like I'm

(01:10:13):
not just saying that. I believe it is because of
what I've seen and been through and would had never
thought I could go through.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
And you know, yeah, yeah, thanks for that, But I said,
thank you for saying that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
That's helpful, and it's like I didn't have time to
that's yeah, the difference for me. I didn't have time
to try to learn about it. I didn't have time
to try to figure out, you know, some supplement that
was going to help me, like when it happens, you're
just gonna deal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
With it, you know, And yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
That was better, you know that. But I think a
lot of times, with a lot of things in life,
it's like the anxiety leading up to things is wash right,
way worse than right just going through that thing. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
That's why knowledge, the knowledge is so powerful because if
you don't know any of these systems, if you don't understand,
you're gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Very afraid of them.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
But once you, once you understand what's happening, you don't
fear it so much anymore because you're like, oh, okay,
well that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
You recognize it, right, and You're not gonna doubt yourself,
you know, don't doubt yourself. Yeah, that was one thing,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
That Yeah, that stood out when you and I were
chatting and whatnot. You just you really emphasize that you
were having like what you thought of as crazy thoughts
and and you they can't turned out to be true.
So don't doubt you. Like again, don't doubt the crazy thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I mean, that's I'm not saying you should every thought, you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Know, but probably, but.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Yeah, And I think from a lot of the you know,
a lot of people I talked to and it was
you know, it was just a completely different landscape in
twenty one twenty You couldn't talk to other people. So
these people and just like the only person. And I actually,
I'm sure you'll you've been in similar situations where you've been.

(01:12:19):
It's just they have nobody else to talk to. And
who am I, I'm nobody, But they just needed somebody,
you know, to bounce things off, to talk to and
not just miss things. Ugh. And I've seen a lot
of them overcome, you know, and I wouldn't share their stories,
but there's a lot of people that have have you know,

(01:12:44):
had it harder than me whatever, much longer struggles. And
but they they're still going, you know, they're still fighting,
and a lot of them are way better off than
they were. And that's you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
That's big.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, putting the information out there, reading, you know, writing
the blog and and like interacting with the people that
come approach you. I don't know, you can't do any better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Than That's great, right, that's all I tried, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Yeah, And honestly it's somebody who basically keep the safe
the way that like gave up on humanity for a while.
And like I was nice and you know, cordialaine little
talks or whatever, but I just wasn't interested in a
relationship anyway because it all felts me. But to see

(01:13:37):
all these you know, people, meet all these really incredible people,
it's been really cool. That's been a really Yeah. I
wasn't expecting it. And yeah, just to see all these
strong people and real just be real, you know, don't try,
don't try to fit into their box. Can't stand that,

(01:14:01):
you know. And I feel like that's the whole thing
with this AI.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
It's like, yeah, like about the schools, do you want
to talk about that? A little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Yeah, I mean I will a little. I just you know,
I did it right before I think Malania came out
and started pushing for it. But you know, I noticed
when I started looking, it didn't just start. You know,
like these AI computer programs have been in the schools
for a while and you know, very intimately, you know,

(01:14:39):
I don't get There was like a system in the
in the elementary school we had and it was like
a card thing. It was like blue, red, yellow, green
card and however you felt for the day, you had
to sit. And I see all of these things in
those computer programs for a most in recognition behavior reckon,

(01:15:03):
like their track in every.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Track, yes, if you were, they're there. That's why they
gave us the emojis on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I've been trying to stop using them in a card
actually because every time I'm like saying it, I just
picked it in. And that's what I feel like true.
A lot of this uh these medical like going for
diagnosis and stuff and imaging, it's like it's just uh
checking how well we we are infused. You know, it's

(01:15:39):
like a hard copy check. They have the wall, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
H yeah, my son gets yearly MRIs and they are
like they come with the clause when you get in
your MRI, yet you know, and it's coming through this portal,
and you know, did you call? And there's like these
layers of how to schedule it because now they can
do it, like they can order it from a hospital
in Boston and then we can get it done locally,

(01:16:06):
which is a huge help because driving to Boston is
a pain in the butt. But it's still like it's convenience,
you know, I can see it being moved that way.
And now it's like you get fifth, like I've already
had like three or four medical professionals reach out. He's
not late for the MRI. The MRI is supposed to
be done by let's say November or December. But they

(01:16:27):
are like all over me, like and I've noticed that
like that like aggressive like appointment scheduling, follow up survey,
you know, just ramping up. So I you're right about
it being in place. And you know, the school if
my mom taught for like I said this, I don't
know how on another one, but like at least thirty

(01:16:49):
or forty years and she just like noticed the whole
pull away from just you know, the natural way of
like going outside and playing and interacted with nature. You know,
there's so many programs they want them on the computer
and doing programs and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Yeah, it's literally like why do everything is on the
computer for them now? And their computers are still tracking
and listening all the information when they're home too, you know,
you know all these lacknuts you got to keep aware.

(01:17:27):
They don't have to be opening on they're collecting data
at twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
You know, like your smart TV. Would you say, like
your smart TV? Yeah, I know all of the stuff
that they gave.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Us, right exactly right, nice smart.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Yeah, you're a smart refrigerator, you're smart washer, you're smart dryer.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
It's collecting data all day long.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I think they even have paint sports. Yeah. It's wild, man,
it's what But you're right, that is a good thing
to keep in check because it isn't It's not like
if you don't have Yeah, you just can't get away
from it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
You know, basically, got a smart meter around your house?

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
You got, I mean it's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
They've made it pretty impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Now they have.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
They have, but we would be pretty tough for them
to have to be so forceful.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Right, so they know they know that we have our
file field and we have these these abilities that have
been u muted and kind of hard and preyed upon,
and use for that they're better benefit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
That's really I worry about the mental health to you, because
that I've seen that when my kids, the way it's
been pushed, Like at first it was like being discussed
and it was a great thing, you know, like it
was like, oh, we can talk about it. But then
it seems like it's like being pushed, like every little

(01:18:57):
tiny of life's problems not just a bump in the roads.
It's a hurdle to get over. No, it's you have
you know, bipolar like serious from.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Label you everybody needs a diagnosis now, a diagnosis and
a pill.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Everybody has to have one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
That's what they want to do, you know. And it's
it's tough. I don't know. For me, it's been tough
because you don't want to ignore or unbalanced concerned, you know,
it's hard to try to say I'm fortunate and I
mine seem to see that side of it too. But yeah,

(01:19:43):
that just the fact that that that push of like
you must have a problem, like they want everyone to
have a problem. For sure, like walk down on paper,
you know, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Yeah, I totally get it. Like I don't want to
take my like one of my kids for therapy or whatever,
because then they're they're on the on the record, and
I really like, for instance, if my well, my son
ends up going into a group home, I really wanted
to make sure I was his guardian first, because otherwise

(01:20:20):
you're kind of just signing them over to the system
and they're completely managed by the system if there's no
like parent or advocate involved. So yeah, it's it's there is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
A way though that you can I can.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
I be by being guardian, I can be more involved
in the in the management and like, yeah, they can't
leave out a guardian now they now as a parent.
My other daughter that's in a group home, she I'm
not her guardian because she's she did not want a
long story, but boy, they don't like me involved, you know,

(01:20:57):
they don't. They don't want to hear from me. They will, Yeah,
I have to wish to be to be there, I
think because I call I'll call him out on stuff,
you know, And I try to stay on time, try
to do that as much as I can. From the sidelines, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
What I try to do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
But yeah, I don't know that that relates to anything
you were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Oh anyway, that's a tough thought. But health they don't
want to hear from me, then my kids don't want
to hear. And I have one adult and she's going
through a lot actually neurologically, and she's looking for answers
but thankfully so far. He actually just refused anxiety medications

(01:21:42):
herself at the dock. But I can't take her. I'm
not a lad because the last time I took her,
they tried to make us wear a mask and I
said no, I'm walked out and that was it. That
was it. But now I'm too embarrassing. So oh yeah,
it's tough man. Yeah, you can't control. I heard some
woman or it was in a check I want to

(01:22:03):
say it was in bumus chet something like in a
was it Oregon or washing team at like fourteen they
they give the medical decisions for the children to make
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Holy crap.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
I didn't mean to look into it. I don't know,
but I saw somebody talking about that. That would be wild,
Like you can't even say what your kid can have
or not, like fourteen. Yep, yep, But that's what they want, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
They want to pull break up the family and those
natural bonds severed. Yeah, so I was putting here yea
on bipolar d ID gender dysphoria. You know, if they
can label it, I mean it's it's see it's again.
It's like it started out as a good thing, you know,
to try to help you understand a little bit, you know,
but you don't want those labels. It's like it's the hardest.

(01:22:57):
Like you've said, it's the hardest thing to convey to
your own an offspring that that, yes, I hear you.
I get that you're the anxiety, I get the depression
or whatnot, But don't do what I did and go
get on a bunch of meds or right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
No, it's so hard. Yeah, and I'm sure, especially in
your position, but it is. Yeah, you don't you you know,
you want to be supportive, but you don't trying to
have him not be blind or set up. Yeah, it's
more like set up for a bad thing. I gotta
give she's ship the organ donor list, dude. So now

(01:23:36):
I'm like worried about that, me too, off of it,
but like just because I didn't think of that when
she's going to get her livening and then I'm like,
oh my gosh, because yeah, I don't like that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
We just went.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
I took my youngest daughter to get her license, and
when the lady asked her to be an organ donor,
I had already told her, make sure you say no,
so she's when she said no, the lady looked at
us like we were the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
She's like, you don't want to be an organ donor,
and I'll like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah, I'm like no, sorry, no, thank you. I don't
need any extra reasons for you or what I know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Yeah, I have it onlind and I want to go
take it off and you can't, and you can't do
it online. They make it really hard. You have to
go into the the R and V, make an appointment
and get it taken off. So again, probably get shamed
and guilty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Yes, that's that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
They're hoping for, is if you have to go tell
someone in person, you're gonna probably not do it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
You know, because you know, not exactly I might even
see I did it when you like just sign the
back of your life exactly. But now I'm thinking I
don't know. I probably never even did. They probably do it.
That's a really I got to check on that. That's
probably end on that anyway. I don't know why I

(01:25:08):
never even thought of that. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Well there you go. Yeah, so, yeah, your blog is outstanding.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
I'm thinking of any more questions I have. Don Do
you have any more questions for Kim?

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
No, but I did it would we I wouldn't like
her to talk a little bit about the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Emotion detection thing and the schools. Oh, yeah, the most
with teaching.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Yeah, I mean it's basically just like these you know,
the same type of vig G system that's coming out
of all the lights and with the antenna beams just
tracking everything, you know. Yeah, it's tracking their gestures, their motion,
their signals, you know, their brain signals in front of

(01:26:00):
those computers. And actually, what my daughter, there's been a
few years since they've been in public school, but when
they were, the last two hours of first day, it
was this program called Lexia, and it was really weird.
She told me one day she and this teacher didn't
really like her and was trying to send her to

(01:26:23):
the office. She didn't know the teacher didn't know my
daughter's name right, and they wore tagged and she was
trying to get the name tag and it just seemed
like more than just like she was like being nice,
like she literally could not send her to the office
because she didn't know what her name was, which made

(01:26:43):
me think, and there is this program Lexia core is
it's there's no engagement from the teacher, is what I'm
trying to say. And it was for two hours. I
had no clue this was an AI program. And it
was just you know, finish this sheet, then you go
on to the next sheet, very rigorous, and again I

(01:27:06):
had no clue and I and it was years later
that I looked into it and you know, found out
what it was in fact, an AI program, you know,
but they are selecting all this stuff from us all
but inside the school building, it's like you got those
cement walls. They really have a good testing ground if

(01:27:29):
you will, thinking like the prisons, you know, and it
pretty much looks like the same stuff to me. You know,
it's just way more and more controlled and better quality,
if you will, probably, I would think, And they're you know,
they can pull them into the room and checked up

(01:27:49):
on you know, whatever they're wondering, does that match your
brain signal or whatever. But it's a long time and
really really with the special education, it looks like from
what I can tell, I mean I haven't really really
looked in too much to that, but I did see
it brought up a lot with the special education.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
And oh man, yeah, I can speak to that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
I noticed during COVID that, you know, when it was
at home, everybody was at home. So for a kid
that's got like intellectual disability or sitting in a computer
and interacting with technology was it was almost impossible. But
they had they started giving them all these programs that
they had to do, you know, like that was a
good excuse for them to be sitting at a computer

(01:28:36):
doing like just basic programs. You know, I just noticed
it more and more they were pushing them onto their
their chromebooks, so that it came in big time during
COVID and then more even after that, like let's sit
down and do this employment program and let's do so.
The teachers are not necessarily as involved. They make it

(01:28:59):
so they're instance, the kids interacted one on one with
a freaking screen.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
So yeah, we don't want the teacher involved, right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Right, right, yeah, big pushes for that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Yeah, and yeah, why you know, aren't we all like
we've all seen the movies? Like how is everybody so
okay with the point, Like can we at least keep
it away from the kids at first? Like why is
that not a thought? Like at least like actually in
Florida too, they're talking about security being AI drones for

(01:29:39):
the school. I'm like, are you are crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
When are we thinking this through?

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Like yeah, like I think they're catching it right now.
Actually I'll find the article. It's yeah, autonomous drone as
the security person. I guess because people are can't be trusted,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
And that the officers in the schools, you know, the
police officers, that's uh, that's new.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
You know we always had them when I yes, they've
always had a liasion.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Officer from the you know that would be in the schools,
like even when I was a kid, and I remember
when my kids were and they always had one there too.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
We did, okay, yeah it was and it was more
like like you said, it was like the school police
up there wasn't so much a security officer but just
a prejudice right teaching.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
The drug abuse there the DARE program.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Boom man. Yeah, I've had to run in with those
those types trying to get help, you know, in the
school for the kids showed.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Me a lot, but oh yeah, I'm telling you they
wanted to. One time they wanted to send my son
for a long term he had he had a meltdown
and yelled at his entire class, and of course they
call in the cop, the security guy, and he kind
of scared all the kids in his class. But so
I get the phone call and they wanted to send

(01:31:15):
him to a long term psych hospitalization and he was
triggered for multiple reasons. But I came to I had
to go running down to the school. I'll never forget
that day, and I brought his i EP and I
and they sent him to the mental health emergency room
and I had them facts over his IEP that would
be a clear indicator that he's got a you know,

(01:31:36):
a profound or not profound, but an intellectual disability. And
there's no way that he needs long term psych hospitalization.
By some gift of God. The nurse in er like
basically saw that. And when I went to pick him
up at the EMH, the emergency mental health. She's like,
here's your son, go home, you know, forget about it.

(01:31:57):
But they really wanted him, They did want them coming back.
They wanted them out of the system, and they were
going to use the mental health to do it. So,
you know, if and I'm lucky to was lucky to
be able to advocate for him like that, I'm sure
a lot of parents wouldn't be able to get off
work or go down and do that and their kid
be in the freaking you know, in some fusibility somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
That is Yeah, that's the other thing that really was
bothering me about the publishers that you're literally giving them
like guardianship on over your kids. But they don't really
say that, but that is what you're doing. And my
daughter almoked that taken for them, did a joke. He
did a like two seconds like I'm going to hang myself,

(01:32:46):
bad joke with the landmade and same thing if I
didn't if they were about the man. But they saw
that when I got there and we were okay, but
it was a joke. And then when they started asking
her question, she was a little too honest with her answers,
and it wasn't like she wanted to hurt herself, but

(01:33:10):
it was like she thinks of things, so like when
they asked her, oh, have you ever thought of ways
to do this to hurt yourself, like she didn't think
that was a bad thing. I thought, you know, like
somebody crinks a lot, you know anyway, but yeah, easily

(01:33:31):
get stuck in that totally. Yeah that that must not
have been easy to uh intercept that. Jill.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Oh, it's you know, you know everything. I think that's
when we get in our biophel like we realize we are.
I had no fear I walked into that school. I
still remember the way I felt. I just like marched
right in there. I think I might have sworn that
I had at the hot everybody sitting around this conference table,

(01:34:03):
and I just laid it out. I said, look, you
cannot label him, you cannot send him. But I had
to use so much energy. No, I know, I mean
no parents should have to go through that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
No, you know, no, and they're completely unreasonable. And then
you know, then there's other situations you're like, you're gonna
give this person, you know a hard time and cps,
you're gonna show up for this weird thing. And then
clearly there's something going on over here, but you won't

(01:34:40):
look at that, and there's way too much of that,
you know. It's disheartening, you know, But yeah, I don't.
I don't believe in going to authority for anything for
any reason anymore personally because they put us in way
more harm than help by far, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
But I think that's you know, yeah, yeah, well that's
all I got to ask you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Just remember, Yeah, there was I thought I account for,
you know, enough of the bumps in the road this morning.
It's actually the other reason I just kind of stayed
off of actually, just to make sure there weren't too
many bumps in the road, and I was gonna make
it here.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
No, I'm really glad you made it. Yes, thank you, well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Thank you for having me. It was really nice joining
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Sound great.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Yeah, my first time ever, so awesome. Here's the unprofessionalism,
but we made it anyway, my third setup, just so
you know, this was my backup and.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Oh no, you really scrambled. Well, thank you for making
it work.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
I expected it. It's not you know, I stuck. Well,
helpings go, you know, as long as you expect it,
and you're not going to get pissed off and give up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Right, John, didn't you say you had problems? I had
problems with my whole computer.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
Likes just a bad last night.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
I had to go get a remote or a thing,
a screen, my stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:36:23):
My stuff always goes haywire all my stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, that's what I'm back to
my phone. I had two different laptops for one. Yeah,
broke was broken about two weeks ago, but I still
had one. And then that got water damage two years ago.
But then I thought a computer that I set up,

(01:36:48):
you know, in my spot in my house. But that's okay.
Like I said, it's you relate it. Yeah, as long
as you're not, you're powering through it. You know, you're
just gonna do it. Don't don't let it stop. You
don't let the bumps in the road stop. That's what
I said, and do right, I think? Yeah, all right, cool,

(01:37:12):
I'm gonna wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
We're gonna rape.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Thank you guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
It's nice meeting you, Kim.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Thanks everybody for watching. Yeah, we'll see you next week.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
All right, bye.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
I think I ended in street
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