August 25, 2025 • 52 mins
[Season 4 / Episode 12 - Oops...We're Guestless Again]
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In this episode, Scott and his brother Dan host an unscripted, guestless discussion reflecting on personal growth, endurance, and daily rituals. Highlights include:
Dan’s humorous story of getting “accidentally buzzed” on a rum cocktail while watching golf.
Scott’s inspiring journey learning to swim from scratch and completing a triathlon, exploring themes of perseverance, fear, and physical challenge.
Reflections on the impact of endurance events on mental healtem regulation.
Insights into cathartic activities, including cooking, walking in nature, cocktail-making, and heavy bag workouts.
Discussions on lifestyle habits, from grapefruit and cranberry juice routines to managing late-night eating habits.
Lighthearted commentary on sports etiquette, golf frustrations, and the quirks of daily life.
The episode blends humor, life lessons, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners an intimate look into the brothers’ reflections on growth, discipline, and enjoyment of life’s small pleasures.yment of life’s small pleasures.
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In this episode, Scott and his brother Dan host an unscripted, guestless discussion reflecting on personal growth, endurance, and daily rituals. Highlights include:
Dan’s humorous story of getting “accidentally buzzed” on a rum cocktail while watching golf.
Scott’s inspiring journey learning to swim from scratch and completing a triathlon, exploring themes of perseverance, fear, and physical challenge.
Reflections on the impact of endurance events on mental healtem regulation.
Insights into cathartic activities, including cooking, walking in nature, cocktail-making, and heavy bag workouts.
Discussions on lifestyle habits, from grapefruit and cranberry juice routines to managing late-night eating habits.
Lighthearted commentary on sports etiquette, golf frustrations, and the quirks of daily life.
The episode blends humor, life lessons, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners an intimate look into the brothers’ reflections on growth, discipline, and enjoyment of life’s small pleasures.yment of life’s small pleasures.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to another episode of Just Us on Justice and
other things. I'm Scott Jones here with my baby brother,
Dan Jones, and we were once again unexpectedly justice, but
far less Ragie about this time.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So I think that's that's the growth that we're going
to show today.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I think the difference is you're at the lake a thousand, Like,
if you weren't at the lake, you'd be Ragie, but
you don't care.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I don't care. And if I drove in an.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
End got counsel a lot, I would have like the
top of my head would have probably come.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Right off, Yes, with heat and lava for sure, But
I don't have time. So yes, we are recording from two.
We're actually not together. We normally record where me and
Scott are together, but he is currently enjoying his time
at the lake and I am sitting in my office
and yeah, we it's beautiful. I don't know what the
(00:48):
weather's like there, it's still great.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Like twenty five and sunny and dead calm, and lake
is glass.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's uh, I think getting up to thirty degrees here today.
So I'm very happy that I have ericon and actually,
you know what, just on a serious note. I actually
feel so bad for unhoused people in the heat, as
bad as I feel for them in the cold, and
you know, it's as harmful and potentially fatal for these folks.
So I, you know, I'm fortunate to be privileged and
(01:17):
have air conditioning and work in a building that has
air conditioning, but I do feel for those folks on
this hot summer day. So I have a funny story
for you. I'm gonna call it accidentally. Buzzed is the
name of my story. So I go to the liquor store.
I don't know, I just think it was Saturday. I
buy some things, and you know, there's those little tasting
(01:38):
booths like they're trying some note. And this lady has
three different things, and I just try one of them.
And I tried the my tie, and I haven't had
a my tie. I can't tell you the last time
I had a my tie. It's a rum cocktail, tropical
drink rum cocktail, and it was delicious. So I bought
this little four pack of these things. And so we,
you know, we were doing our stuff on Saturday, kind
of putts and around, and then we sat down to
(02:01):
watch the golf and so I'm it was I don't know.
By the time we were done, everything was probably four
o'clock and I thought, I'm gonna try one of those
my tyes. Well, it's a three hundred and fifty five
milliter can, and I'm drinking this thing. And I would
suggest I have a relatively high alcohol tolerance, and that's
probably because I drink too much, but we're not gonna
talk about that, but.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Make that as a suggession. I think that's.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I'm drinking this thing, and by halfway through this thing,
I am starting to feel it, like I'm like, oh,
what in the hell's happening. I didn't look at the
alcohol content twelve point eight percent?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh shit, in a can of that?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It was it was like drinking a can of wine
twelve point eight percent. And the thing about it, too,
is it's one of those things where it doesn't taste
at all like it has alcohol, like it's just a juice.
And I didn't actually look at the can until after
I was done it, and I was just like, what
is going on? So then I looked at this thing
and it's twelve point eight percent. I'm like, no one,
(03:06):
I can't even know if I'm gonna drink them, because like,
that's just a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And it made me totally think of that family guy
where I'm so proud of you, Honey, you've only gone
down to one beer a day, vodka beer.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
She don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's literally that happened to me, and it was absolutely
totally accidental, and like I'm like, no, like, who makes
a can of anything that's twelve point eight percent alcohol.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's a lot. I'm just so j just the one.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I just had the one, thank God, because i'd been
I'd have been trashed if I didn't. But I it
was probably a good thing that I hadn't eaten a
lot that day, Like I'd had a power shaken, I'd
eating some stuff, but I hadn't eaten a ton, so
I think that probably also contributed to the fact that
it hit.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Me that hard.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So if I wouldn't have kind of just noticed that
and I would have had two, i'd have been I'd
have been laid out. So yeah, that was my accidentally
buzzed Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Can I also point out that as the whitest man
story ever of getting accidentally buzzed on my ties and
then watching golf.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's pretty late.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You couldn't be.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
No, You're one hundred percent correct. And the funny thing
about that is the same Saturday that I'm getting accidentally buzzed,
you're doing something remarkable. Actually, I'm sitting there watching golf,
drinking my ties, and you, sir, are doing something that
I was actually talking to Tara about this, my wife
Tara about this yesterday, saying how extremely proud I am
(04:44):
of you for doing again something that you couldn't do
six months ago, and that's swimming in a try and
not just swimming, but swimming in that competitive trap one
And I think, I just I think it's awesome that
you did that. I think you should be so proud
of yourself and I'm so proud of you for it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank you. Yeah, it was a thing and so to
kind of. So there's some backstory here. Last year I
did the two nine Oho nine, which if you want
to hear about it, we've done lots of episodes on it,
and it was the every single event.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It was an ultra.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You and Terry came as my support team and Kim
and I are a producer did the event. It was
like life changing event and I still compare when I'm
doing difficult things to.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That day and if I have to have.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
A difficult task, which I'll talk about the troth on
in the second like inevitably it's like that's not even
a single ascent on the mountain and Whistler, so everything
is compared to that because that was the the ultimate
test I guess of my addurance.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So I pushed the boundary there. But this became so
there's a jesse Ititzler's.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Popularize it, but it's an old Japanese term is my understanding,
called masogi, and it's doing one big thing a year
that you're going to remember. So just something in twenty
twenty five, twenty twenty four was the other one that
I'm gonna remember.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So I don't, oh, my.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Twenty twenty six is gonna be, but the trathon, What's
gonna be my masogi, which on its surface is not
gigantically remarkable like lots.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Of people do.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But for me there is another layer in that I
don't know how to swim. I did not know how
to swim, and I started swimming in November of twenty
twenty five, so that's about eight months or so of
swimming time.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Nomber twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Twenty four, Sorry, yeah, twenty twenty four. So about eight months.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Ago and my friend Andrew Martin shout out Dander if
he's listening, who is a firefighter in Saint album? He
is a dive instructor. So when I talk him about it,
he's like, I can teach.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Out to swim.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And we started out with like holding onto the side.
He's like, can you float?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No? Are you comfortable in water? Absolutely not?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So we what we did was started out in a
pool in the deep end and I would hold onto
the side, and then he showed me how to move
my arms and legs to float and we would do
that for ten breaths like that that was it, and
then hold on the.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Side, get my heart rate back down and do that
and that.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Was the entire lesson that day. Then we progressed to
floating on my back, which I didn't know how to do.
And then we progressed to literally like a flutterboard, so
I'd hold on the flutterboard with my hands and I'd
kick my feet and then learning how to kick your
feet from your hips not your knees. A funny story
on that is, so he teaches me those things and
we meet every couple of weeks and then he leaves
(07:27):
me homework up what I need to do. And initially
it wasn't just going for a ship. So I'm in
a pool in Vonton and a lifeguard tries to kick
me out, like I'm nine years old. She's like, I
don't think you can swim the entire legs. I'm like, yeah,
I could if I have to. I don't think you could.
Like You're gonna need to just stay in the shallow
and I'm like, no, I'm fifty fucking three years old,
and he is swear, but I'm fifty three years I'm
not getting out of the shallow in the shallow end
(07:48):
and like I'm seven and I need a little my
leaface on my shoulder. Like There's been so many opportunities
to be completely humiliated while doing this, and largely the
like swimming community, I guess is really helpful when they
see people doing their thing. Most of the time, people
are really good about, hey, what do you need any
tips or they offer you things or all all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So over the last eight months, progressing through and I
could do the distance.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So the distance for this try was seven.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hundred and fifty meters and I got to the point
where I could do that, but I can't do it
in a row. So I could go twenty five or
maybe fifty meters, take a breather.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And then continue on. And then I got my time down.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
In practice to about forty forty five minutes, which if
you're a swimmer you know is an.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Atrocious amount of time.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It is twenty twenty five minutes longer than the slowest person.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
In the pool. It's just not a good time. But
I'm like, well, it's as good as it gets. It
is what it is. I wish I did more, but
I didn't do so.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Jack, my oldest boy, he had done one last year
on his own, his first one, and then this year
he decipted his second one. His swimming isn't as strong
as he would like it to be, but it's better
than mine. And then he's a beast on bike and
Run twenty really focused on the run, so it was
a cool thing where we did together.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So at a couple of days ago started it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
In Everton Kinson Park And what I didn't know is
you start out in because there's so many logistics to
it like where do you put your stuff for do
you park your bike? How do you transition from biking
to running? Or if I'm swimming to biking, like all
that kind of stuff. So there's lots of logistics, which
is good to challenge. My nervous is some because I
don't like logistics like that gets.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Me kind of jangly.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But I was really good with it this time. Get
to the pool. They put you in groups of four,
and everybody has a swim cap. So I've never put
on a swim cap in my life.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I had an orange trump and then they go, okay,
get in.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And there's a counter there, who this lady's counting how
many lops you get to do and you have to
do it thirty times, so twenty five meters there and
back thirty times fifteen, fift times fifty meters, but thirty
times twenty five. So the group I'm with they're not remarkable,
they're better than me. So they're slowly doing their thing,
and again I'm having to take so I'm doing my
(10:00):
best to stay out of the way.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, probably twenty minutes in they're all out, and now
I'm alone in my lane.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Because they won't fill it. With the next four until
all four are gone. So there's a lineup of thirty
people waiting to get into.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The pool, and I am ogging.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This one single lane like I'm thinking, just tho those
three people in here, I don't care. And when I
was done, so it was humiliating, but it was like whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And then I see somebody I know on the side.
They didn't see me, thank god that I know of.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So I'm just like, I'm not making icon with people
because I have to take I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Just taking up all the time. And there was a
moment in there I'm like, fuck, I don't know if
I should even bow to do.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's like I have to stop that be yourself talk
and go shut the fuck up. You won't hate yourself
if you don't finish them this swip. And I had
like six or eight legs to go, so get through it.
And I found I went in the water yesterday of
the lake, and what I found that I did was
I went too fast in the water, got my heart
rate really high, then took a break that was shorter
(10:59):
than I'm used to, and then I burried back and
that's how I jacked myself off. I got my heart
right up, so I so whatever, it was done in
thirty nine minutes, which literally is the.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Best time I've ever had for my swim. So I
was good.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And then go to the bike and the honestly, the
bike and the run felt so good I could It was.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
A twenty k bike five k run I easily could
have done.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Not easily, I could have done double them, like I
could have done a forty k ride and a ten
k run could have been more.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
To do, but I I that would have been less
of push. It's the swim that I really need to
get better at well.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But still it's remarkable and part of it's funny and
at the same time that you have had a lake
lot for I don't know, twenty five years, thirty years,
and you don't know how to swim like that to
me is it's kind of funny because I know that
we used to go out in the boat when with
(11:57):
other when before you had the lot, we went out
to that lake with other people and we would park
the boat and we would jump in the water and
swim around and something and I swim like you and
that like you can swim like we say that with
when I went with Sammy too, when we would do
when we wo went out to radium, we'd take everyone
in the boat parked about the middle of the lake
and everyone would jump in the water and stuff like that.
(12:18):
But I guess that's because you're so close to something
that's safe that you're not you know, you're not. You
can you could swim enough that you could do that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, I could live for about twenty five maybe thirty
meters prior to this.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
If the boat suddenly drifted, I'll be able to get
twenty five meters and I'm god paddle, So I'm my
feet in the water, my head is above the water,
and I'm fighting against myself. So completely inefficient, had no
idea how to do it properly.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
The stupid thing for me is I can actually swim underwater.
I like, if I have goggles and a snorkel, I swim.
I can actually swim pretty well. But I cannot swim
without that, Like I like, because I've done I did
snorkeling in Mexico and stuff like that, and it's in
the ocean and you're not able to stand up anywhere
(13:07):
because it's deep, and it was a saturia reef and
you can't. And I didn't just hang out beside the
boat because that'd be weird. So but I could do that,
but I cannot swim. And you and I have we
recently found out that we have a swimming story and
it's almost identical swimming story, just different lake. And what
happened was for me, it was in Windamere Lake and
(13:29):
BC and the girls, my daughters were playing with a
beach ball and the beach ball got into the water
and kind of started to drift away, and you know,
I'm I'm gonna go get this beach ball, and as
I'm swimming towards it, it keeps drifting away. And now
I'm to the point where I can't stand in the water.
I'm starting to panic and I'm like, if I don't
get to this beach ball quick, I'm dead. Like no
(13:50):
one's coming to save me, Like no one. There's no lifeguard, right,
And I finally get to this beach ball, and I'm
hanging onto this beach ball for dear life like it's
a flutterboard and that's what I used to get back
and I'm literally my heart rate probably was two hundred
and ten because I was number one exerting myself. Number
two panicking and yeah, yeah, I almost died trying to
(14:15):
get a beach ball, and.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You and I had a very similar experience barbly, I
don't know, twenty some years ago, and exactly the same thing.
Beachfove getting pushed out and I'm throwing towards it, and
then I'm starting.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
To go, holy fuck, if I don't get a hold
of this soon, I might be in trouble here. And
I managed to get to it, and the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Because that's an interesting part about this is it's not
just the physical exertion of it, because I'm used to
doing that. I've kind of pushed myself throughout my whole life,
heart rate and all that. But I have a fear
of water, or I've had that fear of water, which
only recently really turned. Like there's different pools that I've
gone to in Edmonton and summer shallow the whole way,
(14:54):
which is like I don't know, like belly chest deep whatever,
So you can stand up at any time and there's
other ones at our shallow for a while and then
there's a deep end up until probably a month ago,
I stuck to the shallow only and I just need
to be able to put my feet out.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Even when I was training out here at the lake,
I would.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Go out to kind of chest height and then I
would stay that depth the whole way and I wouldn't
go where I couldn't touch the bottom. But about two
or three training goals, so about three weeks ago, I
found actually as it went into deep water, I found
that somehow relaxing like that just the distance between me
and the bottom felt like I was floating above it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I didn't get that same getting jacked up. So
Queen Eepool, where I did.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
The traathlon, that had that where it was shallow and
then deep, and the deep didn't bother me. I was
thinking it might have because I was again kind of
it's a competition, right, like you're not fighting, you're not
racing anybody per se, because I wasn't racing anybody per se.
But you're still in there with three other people and
there's people all around you doing their thing, and you
(16:01):
don't want to be.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The last guy in the pool. And then I'm the
last kindle and then going ah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But again when I looked at the next day, because
it was a little bit embarrassing, but the next day,
I was like, well, I was faster than I ever
had been.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's as good as I can expect.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And then the bike, I figure it would take me
an hour, and it took me like fifty to fifty
one minutes. On the run I thought would take me
forty minutes, and it took me thirty six minutes. And
my best ever five k that I can remember, maybe
when I was younger, but I'm not a fast guy.
It was about two weeks ago that I did a
sub thirty five minute five k, which was a summer.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Goal that I had for myself. So I just and
my system has responded really really.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well to pushing those boundaries of the cardio because the
weights has always been kind of my thing. But this
going a little bit quicker and transitioning from riding a
bike to running, which feels really weird on your legs,
has actually.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Really helped my system.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Nervous system as well, because there is a nervous system
training to all this as well, but also the cardio
oscular system and just how I feel well.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And it's also like you having those numbers after swimming,
because I here, I decided one day this was I'm
an idiot. We were at now this is gonna now
again sound like the whitest, most privileged comment in the world.
We were in Victoria, staying at the Empress Hotel and
it was we had just been outside and had been
(17:20):
kind of rainy, so we decided we're gonna go to
the hot tub and they had a twenty five meter
pool there. I think it's a twenty five meter pool anyways,
So I decide I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a whirl.
I'm gonna go do some laps, and again I can't
swim worth nothing, So I'm swimming. I think I did
without stopping four laps and I was exhausted. So I
(17:43):
swam one hundred meters and I went to get out
of the pool. I couldn't. My legs wouldn't help me
get on the lap, like my like. So, the fact
that you have learned to swim and did something that's
physically exhausting, because swimming, if the swimming some of those
funny things, the worse you are at it, oh, the more,
(18:05):
the more, the more challenging it is on your body,
and the more you know. But the fact that you
did that, got out of that, got on a bike,
had a better time than you expected, got off the
bike and ran, had a better time than you expected.
It's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. I had on a bike that
I'd only.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Ridden once because it was a friend of mine let
me at bike, because it was more it wasn't a
try bike, but it was more aligned with that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So I had spent fifteen minutes on the bike before
just so I could figure out the gears.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and really, while I was in the pool, I'm like,
I know how to run.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Just finish this, get through this. I know this sucks,
and then we're gonna go on a bike, and then
we're gonna go for a bike, right.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And that's fuck. The time doesn't matter. I know I'm
not winning.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, like I didn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I beat one person in my age group of fifty
to fifty five or whatever, so one of like that
that doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But there's one I wasn't last.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, that's kind of the only gold I had.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And the whole time it was two hours and thirteen minutes.
And again to the other thing is that's not even
one ascent and whistling. There was still an hour hour.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Fifteen to go.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
But even during it, while I was running, so the
bike was all good, Like I felt really good at
the bike running and I'm going out my normal, my
recent normal, a little quicker than I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I start to get pains quote unquote in my
right hip, right gut, and I just basically go, shut
the fuck up. That's not real and it's not.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It was like a pain monster. And during Whistler the
same thing. It's not actually an injury, it's not even hurt.
It's your body kind of given you a danger signal
that actually wasn't true. So I'm just like, shut up,
I'm giving you no fucking attention.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Be quiet. And then kept going and it quieted down
a little bit, and then.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Get to just a terrible hill on the run in
the River Belly, and then my left knee cap starts
to hurt. I'm like, no, be fucking quiet. So I
kind of David Goggins a little bit. Yeah, And it
wasn't a shit talking as far as.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I've been negative myself, it was shit talking.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
That pain ghost that kind of floats around sometimes when
you're pushing to these limits, that wants to tell you
a story that is completely fast.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, that's awesome. It's actually you just taught talked about it,
so that we talked about this. We were golfing on
your birthday, which was Friday, and you said something that
I thought was really interesting that you really miss being
on the mountain, like because that would have been the
same day that you did your triathlon, which is also
very interesting universe thing that gave you that on the
(20:30):
same day. But it just interestingly that you because I
remember you saying, I'm never going to do this again,
like unless someone pays for it for me, because it's expensive.
But you really wished you were there and on that.
So now you understand why people get multiple on their badges.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, because alumni kind of gets recognized as an alumni
of those events, and especially Day one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I had a gigantic year of missing.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Out, and I watched every story and I followed all
the things on Instagram and kind of got a.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Little teary eye during the video and all that, and
I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's just such a great experience that I get to
compare everything else when something's really difficult, I go, at
least you're not in the middle of the night on
the fucking mountain.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's not raining.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And even times about that training runs or bikes or
whatever and it's raining, I'm like, yeah, it's in an hour, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Not three and a half hours, and you can go
and dry off and get in the hot town and
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So if everything that.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I've been doing physically butts up against that, and because
it was such an.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Impactful effect, so are you going to do another one?
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah? I think so? Not next year? No, No, we
have a different Terry's found a different thing that she
wants to do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That to retreat where there's significant hikes, like fifteen to
twenty five k hikes every day and see kayaking and
all that next summer. So because I've already got to
do my thing, I'm like, yeah, that's totally good, let's
go do that. And then she now has a training
goal be on her feet because that's not something she's done.
So yesterday we went and walked the loop out here,
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which is five and a half k, and we kind
of have a plan for her to spend time on
staremasters and tracks and all that in the winter. So
it's gonna be a thing we can kind of train
two together. I could do that right now, Like I
can go out.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So you do that every week?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I do that.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, we do that every week anywhere from ten to
twenty K. And I think we did one thirty k
this year as well. Meet Kim and I, so that's
no big deal.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I and I really like it.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I like the low snow better than the quote unquote sprinting.
I would I'd like to find two nine o nine
for sure in a couple of years. But some other
ultra event, like I want to do maybe a fifty
K if I can find one that's doable, that has.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
A long enough time.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Period like a twelve hours or more where you have
the completion because they don't want to rush.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
But I can keep going like I don't need to stop.
I can fuel myself really.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well now, and the trathlon showed that as well, because
after eat first in the morning, which you know, I
used to be so nauseous all the time, I'm eating
first thing on the bike.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm actually eating while I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Riding a bike, which in Whistler last year you have
to or else you literally would make it. So I'm
fueling and hydrating all that, and I like that logistics too,
that you have to you kind of get in tune
with your machine and figure out what your machine.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Needs to keep running.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like there's an introception, so just like looking at your
inner landscape and seeing what's what.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But that translates to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Real life when you're just regulated over whatever a meeting
or a saty conversation or whatever. It's that interroception or
having an idea of what's going on and then what
am I going to do about it? If anything? Sometimes
it's nothing and just let the store pass.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, and that's yeah, it's one of those things.
You know, it's funny as you say that, I was
watching golf again, I'm talking about watching golf and something
that really starts to has started to bother me. And
I don't know why. Maybe it's this is when I
watch professional golfer slam their club or throw their club,
it makes me very very annoyed. And you know it's
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that And you're those guys that you should be regulated
while you're golfing. And number one, there's two things that
make me angry about it. Number One, you're professional. It
doesn't look good. Number two, you're showing every kid out
there who's looking up to you that this is an
okay behavior on a golf course or in life, Like
you can't. You just said it, And that's why it
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made me think about it. You can't be in a
meeting at work and be angry and start and throw
the Kleenex box down, like I just threw a Kleenex
box on, Like, you can't do that at work, So
why are you allowed at work? Like, And it was
actually Scotti Scheffler who did it, and he threw his
putter down. Yeah, he threw his putter down because he
wasn't making putts. And I'm like, and then there was
another one I can't remember who it was, missus a
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sandshot does it? Hits a bad soundshot and then smashes
his club into the sandtrap four times, And I'm like, no,
you don't get to do that, like, and you're you're
being a bad role model in those circumstances. And I
get irritated with even things like this is probably too
much to get heared. I don't know why put so
much effort into user thought. But even when I watch
a hockey game and they're playing the national anthem and
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I see the players swaying and not standing still. But
that kind of stuff bugs me because then you know
why it bugs me, because then it translates to kids
in elementary school where my wife works, doing that in
the classroom, acting like they're the hockey players swaying and there.
To me, there should be respect when an anthem is on.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But I totally agree with the golfing. I completely disagree
with that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That's fair a way to regulate their nervous system because
they're all jocked up on the same thing. For our
kids standing there, it's hard to stund still, and we
make them sound sill when it's against their physiology. That
side to side swaying is a way for them to
regulate themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I never thought of that. Okay, I'm not gonna be
mad about that anymore. I never even thought. All I
was thinking about it was that they're not paying attention
and there'd being disrespectful. But now you totally are.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But they're trying to contain and deal with that energy
flow that they have going, and it's the same thing
at the kid level.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, that's fair. I never thought about that, and I
probably I probably did the same thing when I was
there's natural Lantos playing. When I was boxing, I probably
did exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
There's no way you stat totally still or saluted. You'd
have been kind of walking or rocking back.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And yeah, he's doing a self south.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
The bilateral movement is just telling your system it's all good,
we're here, and you're kind of shutting that at the
middle of down.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, thank you for the education on that one.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You are welcome. So we're kind of on the line.
That's a good segue because we talk about cathartic stuff.
So something that you So.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Now I kind of have my activities whatever, and I
have other things for cathartists.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
What do you do for like a cathartic type of activity?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So what cooking for me is one of my main things,
like I and I'm I'm only allowed to cook a
couple of days a week because my cooking often comes
with I cook with a lot of fat like that.
But I also like to cook, like I like to
do long things like I like to I like to
make sauces from scratch. I like to make soups from scratch,
like I just was telling you, I made a tomato
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basil soup from scratch and kind of looked at a
few different recipes and mashed up my own ideas, made
my own thing, and it was probably the best tomato
soup I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And I like that.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
The problem with me now, though, is I do find
the it's cathartic, but if I make a mistake, I'm
pretty hard on myself. And I got to work on
that because like the other day, I made how would
I make chicken? And I overcooked it and it was
a little bit dry and chewy, and I was mad.
I'm like, I'm terrible, and so I was negative self
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talking on something that I love to do, and I
got to work on that because that's stupid. The other
thing I love is I just love being for me,
just walking with one of my dogs in an area
that is as literally populated as possible, and just being
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alone in the sun and the trees. And I find
that hearing water running. I love hearing water running. I
love I find that super cathartic, unhealthy catharsis. I find
the cathartic in making cocktails, like whether it's like the
other day, I decided I'm going to make a mint julip,
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which is bourbon it's a bourbon cocktail, and I have
fresh mint in my backyard, so I take it. I
have I have a special I literally have a tool
for muddling mint or other things in a drink. And
I sit there and I have a I actually have
I have a mint jewlup glass. So I'm like, and
then I started talking like from I was from Southern America,
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I'm like having a mint julp.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, it's usually about the Southern America likes from Brazil
drinking min julips.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
But yeah, so I find that very kind of healing.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I find water like going down to the creek being cathartic.
Hitting the heavy bag for me is a Hitting the
heavy bag for me is like going home after you've
been gone on a long for a long time and
you kind of get that feeling of that's where you're
supposed to be. I've had that heavy bag. It was
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my grade sixth graduation present from mom and dad. I've
had that same it's that same heavy bag, and that
same heavy bag used to belong to Bruce Crookshank. Yeah,
my dad bought it from Bruce Krookshank. So I got
this hit. It's got duct tape all over place. It
is the most used thing in my life. And yeah, yeah,
it's those kinds of things ground me and and really
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helped me keep my regulation as much as I can
keep my regulation.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Let's listen to a podcaster the Day by Brian McKenzie,
who you've actually had on here.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He's like a very big deal.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He's prolific in the US as far as his training
stuff goes.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And he basically said everyone should be walking for forty
five minutes.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Per day and breathing only in and out of your
notes for about forty five minutes, and if you can't,
then starting out smaller than that ten or fifteen.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Minutes and working your way up to that.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But oh, when you start talking about regulating your system,
I guarantee you if people and it's hard. It's not
hard to do, it's hard to fit in sometimes, so
it's a matter of making time or that, but making
a point to walk, and that's outside, not on a treadmill,
because then you're also getting the bilaedal still, the stimulation
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of walking. You're getting the sunlight on your eyes first
thing in the morning, you're regulating your breathing.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You're getting the physical benefits of that movement.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
That optic flow of things coming past you is also
telling your system that you're safe.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In cap there's fractals, which I think is.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
The repeating pattern of like trees, et cetera, also as
a way to tell your nervous.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
System that you are safe and called so walking is
so so very beneficial.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Setting a goal of let's say, if seven days a
week is too much for folks, try that two or
three days a week, and then maybe even not necessarily
have a journal, but kind of write down how did
you feel on the days that you walk? Write down
how did you feel on the days you did, And
I guarantee you you'll start to see a very distinct
pattern that on the days you walk, you feel better
than the.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Days you didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Well, journaling is a good idea, and I should probably
do more of it, but unfortunately have a weird memory.
I remember, I remember a lot of things. I am
not say the words. I can't say the words. I
am noticing a difference in my days now with grape
for juice. Oh no shit, yeah, I'm actually talk about that,
(31:50):
so and here's I'm gonna talk. I'm also the stupidest
person in the world because the first grapefruit juice I
bought was twelve ninety nine. Holy shit, Yeah, it was organic,
and I thought, oh, this is what grapefru juice costs
well in the juice style. The grape for juice now
that I'm buying is four dollars and doesn't it's just
grape for juice. Like literally, you read the label, it's
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grapefruit juice and it doesn't even have any sugar. It's
got some stevia in it, that one, but it doesn't
have sugar. And what I'm doing now is I'm mixing
my grapefruit juice with my cranberry juice. I'man having half
grapefruit had cranberry. So for those of you who want
to know something about me that no one needs to
know about me, is as a young boy or a
young man teenager, I would get urinary tract infections, so
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I would get UTI's, which is not real common for men.
It's much more common for women, and grape cranberry juice
actually prevents it. So I've been drinking cranberry juice for
years to prevent UTIs and i haven't had one for years,
knock on wood. But now I'm drinking cranberry juice mixed
with grapefruit juice. And I'll let you explain it because
you understand it more than I do. But it has
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totally changed my mornings where I'm like I would say,
I don't wake up. I never really woke up tired,
but I'm now way more energetic in the soon, Like
fifteen minutes after I drink grape for juice, it feels
like I'm like wide awake, isn't I don't even know
(33:19):
how to say it, but I feel much more energized.
And then the same thing at night is I seem
to be ready for bed kind of right away.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
So yeah, So it came from a Andrew Heberman podcast
on how to utilize your body's natural system of cortisole release.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So cortosol gets a bad rap at all. It's too
much cortisol, it's too much stress. All that which it is.
If it's your chronicle stress. We're not doing anything about
how to regulate yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But you have a cortisover reason. I understand Again, I'm
not a scientist.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I just played on a TV.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
My understanding is it peaks if you're getting up around
sixty seven in the morning before you wake up, it
is starting to increase and it peaks around nine am.
That's a good thing because it gets to your ass
moving and gets you into the date. So ways that
you can help regulate that in a positive way is
getting sunlight on your eyes upon waking, which is seeing
as the sun rises, getting five or ten minutes of
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that sunlight on your eyeballs and not staring at the
sun and hurting yourself, but also not with sunglasses on
because it's actually blocking it glasses glasses are fine, and
not doing it through window glass or card glass, so
then it also gets you outside.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And the reason no window glass or.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Car glass is because it blocks some of those photons
that are coming into your eyes. And you have different
nerve cells in your eyeballs that are very sensitive to light,
and when the light hits them, it's setting a cascade
of events of hormonal processes, including getting your quartersol to
go up at.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Around nine am.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And the good thing about that is getting at the
peak around the time that it's supposed to likely leads
to later on in the day, which you're finding is
it gradually slowly starts to de increase and then on
it's time for bead. Your quartersole's really low because it's
set at the right time. The grapefruits comes grapefruit juice
comes in. And this is the first time I've heard that,
because there's research that shows that drinking grapefruit juice first
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thing in the morning is it allows your system to
keep that quartersole high when it's supposed to. So however,
it keeps the receptors. I don't understand beside blind it,
but basically, the grapefruit juice first thing in the morning
lets that quartersole rise up. The only caveat to that
is if someone's gonna try this is if you take medication,
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check with your doctor, because oftentimes grapefruit juice, because of
the compounds in there, interacts in a negative way with
a lot of different medications.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So this is not medical advice that we're given here.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You don't take any medications in order to eye, so
there's no doubt such any of that. But if you
do take medications, make sure you're checking with your doctor
before you try this particular protocol.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, no, and each totally. When you said steering straight
at the sun, you totally made me think of Will
Ferrell's Harry Carey. Ya hey, sometimes I stay directing in
with the sun. Anyways, stupid me.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm gonna go back to golfing because there's a funny
story there. So we play a countryside which is just
near Edmonton, and I think it was a year ago,
Me and you and both my boys were playing.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
There's a whole number thirteen. It's like a hundred yard.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Or one hundred and twenty five yard par three, one
hundred twenty five yard.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Par three, so very short fot it's over water and you,
I think punched buck seven eight balls over and over, and.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Me and the boys were like cry laughing. We were
so funny. It was so funny because you did and
then you you never did hit over You.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Have to go around and drop and drop it and
and and probably ninety percent of the time I play
that hole, I drop it into the water like it's
a it's an easy shot. It's like it is, there's
nothing to it. But my mental capacity to overcome water
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is just sometimes not there, especially at that hole, because
I've done it so many times that it's almost like
I've trained myself to punch it into the water. I
have to say the last two times I've played there,
I've made it over and the time before I played
with you, I got a bogie. Last time I hit
it short of the green. The last time I hit
it right of the green, pin high chipped it in
for a tap in par So i've actually parted that
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hole and last a little wile. So now that I've
had two times of going, I'm hoping I have. I've
made it exercise that demon, exercise that demon.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So while we were sitting there, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I said it was, I'm gonna fucking if you die first,
which that's probably perceivable, no offense, then I'm gonna get
a put a memorial bench there for you. Because you
see a memorial benches on golf perses. I'm like, that
would be the perfect hole. Like something like he wasn't
much of a fucking golfer, but he lost a.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Lot of balls here or something like that made this laugh.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Losing the balls, Yeah, Dan Jones, memorial bench on whole
thirteen that the country said.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I think we should do it now.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think we should too.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Not even dead yet, just have your like the nineteen
seventy four and then have the underline that it's not yet.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That'd be hilarious. I wonder how much that would cost.
That would be I.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Guess spouse waiting for like how I spose dies and
then the grave is already dug basically, and then with
a date not quite on that kind of freaking weird.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's not that weird, it's kind of I find cemeteries weird.
I like them though, Yeah, I like them, but I
I you start to like I And it was crazy
because even in going to school in Cambridge, like there'd
be like a little cemetery kind of in the city
near a building, and then you go look and there'd
be you know, person died in seventeen twenty five, and
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you're like, holy cow, Like, you know, you don't see
a lot of seventeen twenty five gravestones in Edmonton, right, So,
but yeah, I find gravestones just interesting because you're literally
standing over top of human bodies, right, And that's yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
We've gone out here to go for a drive and
go look at a couple of years ago, we just
had one of those years where we're driving around off
yeah and we just go look at different cemeteries around here.
I know you weren't from the seventeen hundreds, but they'd
still be a little bit dated.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, probably a way cheap road here too. You'll up
nowhere Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Oh fuck, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I got to talk about a little addiction I have
this year.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, that's not necessarily atrocious, but not necessarily good for me.
I can't stop eating McCain cakes. I'm fucking I think
I'm on my fourth one this summer. Started buying them
in about May or June because there's one. I was like, hey,
you know what, you when you're a grown up, you
can fucking get a birthday cake anytime you want. So
I've been smashing through chocolate McCain's chemical cakes all summer.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I actually would suggest that you're probably better off drinking
four handles of rum in the summer then drinking and
eating with McCaine because they were fined sugar. That's in
that thing about like the fact that I bet you
could leave I know they're delicious. I bet you could
leave that cake out on your counter for three weeks
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and just eat it and there'll be no mold.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I would almost guarantee it.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, speaking of old, I'm in my I'm in my fridge.
Yesterday I was going to make a snack case of
dia while we were watching golf before supper, like just
kind of in the middle afternoon snack and.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Theweres you take in watching golf, it seems like a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Well you know what, actually probably a lot, because actually
we eat supper in front of the golf because I
tape the golf. I don't watch it live because we're
doing stuff. So I tape the golf and we watch
it into the evening or into the apple late afternoon evening.
But I'm going to look at look for some cheese
to put on the thing. So I find this cheese,
and I find this this plastic container and it's a
charcoterie meats that has obviously been in there for far
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too long because the back of all the meat was green.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Gross.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I just like throw that out right now.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's so gross.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
It is discussed.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm gonna talk about an addiction that you had because
you're not sharing yours.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Tell me about skip the dishes there, pal, Oh, so
I can't.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I have since canceled skipped the dishes. So I'm a
little bit of a nighttime grazer, and my wife has
a tendency of falling asleep very early, so I'll.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Be sitting there and.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
And sometimes like there's times where I would be like,
that's that's nine thirty. I'm kind of hungry. I didn't
eat a lot of supper. I'm gonna order a donare.
Just order it, like who who needs a donare? At
nine o'clock at more? Yeah, So then or then I'd
be like, oh, you know what I feel like, I
feel like some pizza and order a pizza. I feel
like this, order that. Oh you know what, I might
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like a a quarter pound er with cheese and just
oh shit, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Oh yeah, see, I'm gonna go with my I have
a piece of cake every second. That third day is still.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Beating your Oh but I have I have solved my
ticke my cats. But the worst was this was had
a few too many drinks, decided I needed a chocolate bar,
so kind of late at night, probably twelve o'clock at night,
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I would say I was probably and I was a
little bit buzzed and thought, you know what, I'm gonna
have a chocolate bar. So I ordered fifty dollars worth
of chocolate bars from seven to eleven fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
How many chocolate bars is fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know what, I don't know because totally like a
choco nine year old. So what happens is I actually
fall asleep prior to skip the dishes getting there. I
don't wake up. I don't even recall ordering these things.
Tara opens until she opens the door and says, why
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is there a bag of chocolate bars on our front step?
And she then took them to school and handed them
out to children where they probably should be. And yes,
so hence floor forth, no more skip the dishes for
dam If I want a late night snack, I just
I just eat something in the house, like if I
really need something. And I've actually found in my in
(43:22):
my old age and this fiftieth year of life that
eating anything after about seven pm. Now, I would say,
if I have anything after seven pm the next day,
I actually I feel sick. The next day I have
I like something happens with my stomach. I kind of
get gaggy, and so I can't eat late night anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It's the same like am even with my McCain cake addiction.
Here it is not a late night thing. It's like
eat dinner. We eat early.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
We always have where we've been old people forever. Look
like eating dinner at like five five thirty, so I
might be having deserted six six.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Thirty and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
After that, maybe a handful of chips once or twice
a week. But I just it's not I don't add
if I eat like sugar or whatever eight thirty nine o'clock,
it basically feels like I'm hungover. Like it totally fucks
with my sleep, It wrecks my rem rem sleep.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It just it is not good my system. But just
not good with any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Like even like something I used to do and I
can't do anymore. As I used to like sometimes at night,
I'd have a bowl of cereal, like if I kind
of felt hungry, I thought, oh ye, a bowl of cereal.
I can't do that anymore because for whatever reason, now,
if I drink milk late in the middle of the night,
I'll wake up with like acid reflux, like and I
don't drink milk very often, so milk and cereal I found,
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like I get acid reflux. And it's like all these
things I could do before that never had an impact
on me. Are all life changes as you age with
your ability to do things and.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
And the thing about it is you have to listen. Yes, right,
your body's telling you something for a reason, right, not
like the you know, it's not doing the fake pain
thing like you did when you're on your trap line.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, that wasn't needed to listen. No, that's because I
know different between that kind of pain and of actual injury.
This was not an injury.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah. And I think if you're, if you're at all
in tune with your body, you know those things, right,
like you know when things are tightened up and you
just need to stretch, or if you need to stop.
And you were really good about listening to your knee
because you did tweak your knee before the trathlon. Yeah,
and you kind of stopped your running a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah. I took at a week and a half off
running and then the red light thing.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
So a red light therapy, and I don't understand the
science planet, but it was like basically it kind of
wrapped around on.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
The bell pro thing. I don't understand it at all.
It was like I had two weeks.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Of physio and my knee felt great. It was insane
how much better it felt. Pen But I'd use that
same thing during the training for the ever sing last year. Yeah,
I'd alternate tens machine a little electrical doctor whole thing
left knee and then right knee red light, and then
i'd switch it off the other way around, and that
got me through his wall. It's a remarkable device.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
That is wonders fun.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I need to get one of those red light things.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
And I was gonna or I thought I had to
order one.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I did.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
We got back, so i'll uh, yeah, let's not to
show you which one to get.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, yeah, you can do it. For the rest of
the day.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I'm gonna go walk the dog and maybe go over
a paddle if it stays calm, and go on the
water and hang out and do nothing nice and then
leave early tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Nice. Nice, And I'm going to go back to work.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yes, I'll speaking of work, I guess because we talked
about before.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
That UH Northwest has had some significant cuts previously due
to different federal regulations. But the Justice Program, I think,
I hate to give you a commiment, but I'm going
to UH has a lot of folks who have registered
for it, so there's been the opportunity where I get
to come back to teach again at Dark West, which
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is really good, and there's gonna be a whole bunch
of students there, which is really good. So it's uh, yeah,
some kind of came out a little bit. I know,
there's still significant content. There's some significant issues. There are
a lot of folks are on there in the academic world,
but there is a little positive.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, it's it's it's the I R c C. I
don't even know what that stands for. Government has put
in some regulations for international students, which is a challenge
to pretty much every post secondary in Canada when it
comes to students, but yeah, we have it's gonna be
a different program because right now the program that I'm
teaching in has twenty five percent international students and next
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year we'll have zero percent international students. So it's going
to be interesting because the international students do bring with
them different perspectives and it's it's interesting for class and conversations.
So yeah, it'll be what. We're very fortunate we have
two full core hortz of students coming up and starting
in this week actually we have an orientation and yeah,
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it's gonna be really it's going to be I think
it's gonna I think we're just going to continue to
grow this program. You know, I do believe, and I'm
obviously biased, that this is probably the best justice program
out there because it's very very critical and it's also
very very topical, and it's really good. I really enjoyed,
and I think the students do too.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Immigration, Refugees and citizenship Canada is what irccs.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, yeah, but I agree again, a little bit biased
there because I get to work in that space. But
I think it's a really remarkable program that has a
bit more breadth and depth to it and similar programs
in other schools.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And a little more practical than other schools, right.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Like it's academic without being so academic that it's not
transferable to any real life situation. Yeah, and a lot
of the kids in there, kids are twenty five years old,
but a lot of the students go on and get
because it also has a robust program to place student
placement programs, our internships or whatever it's called, that.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
A lot of those individuals end up getting work in
those spaces that.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
They want to be absolutely. Yeah, No, it's it's really good.
It's it's and and that because the small class sizes,
we get to know the students quite well. And you know,
I get a lot of emails from former students telling
me where they're working, and some are working in corrections,
some are working in policing, some are working in uh,
you know, policing adjacent things like the help teams and
the cop teams, and so yeah, it's it's really good.
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It's good. And I know they you know, some of
my students will come back and hang out on open
house day and just to talk to people that are
interested in the program and be like, this is the
best thing that ever happened to me. So it's it's
pretty great.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
And we've had students who have come from other programs
to this one and have said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
So it's not just you, I self Agrandiz, Yeah, that
we can actually be.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
No, no, it's not. And in saying that, I just
want to say that these are the thoughts of dan
It's goott, not the thoughts of anywhere we work and
have worked, and you know, obviously not saying anything negative
about it, but I just these are my thoughts, not
the thoughts of the program that I share.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Defending anybody, but our own stupid faces.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yes, yeah, awesome. Well we are both still on Treaty
six territory because you are in Saskatchewan near the Thunderchild
Reserve and I am in Edmonton, and these this entire
span of this Treaty six area is the home to
many Indigenous peoples from the Cree, the Dane, the Soto,
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the Mayti folks, and it's you know, it's a beautiful land.
And I was walking the other day and I was
walking in Edmonton, and I looked up and saw two
eagles flying, and eagles are such a significant part of
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indigenous culture. It just made me think how many people
were walking here when there was no houses and those
eagles were flying over in that beautiful way, and it
just made me be very grateful for being able to
live in this community.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, now I have to add on to that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
I know that's normal clothing, but I just this weekend
had a very meaningful conversation with my youngest about topic
I'm not gonna put on here, and then we go
to the water after and there's an eagle flying over
top of us.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
And I'm like, my creator apparently approved that conversation.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
And then yesterday we were driving to golf and about
one hundred and fifty meters in front of us were three.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Bull moose in the ditch.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Then they went over to.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
The field and they kind of trod them along, and
then they stopped and out looked at us. And then
we kept going and another five minutes and another baby
bull moose in a swamp staring back at us, and
then two deer.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
It was like a fucking Disney movie looking at us.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
And then when Sam and May were on their way home,
they saw light beer running by the Deer Creek bridge.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
That's a remarkable day for wildlife because you just told
them that's a day. You literally told me like last
week that you had hardly seen any wildlife this year.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I've hardly seen it. And the only thing we've actually
seen this year is foxes. Weirdly more foxes, and I.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Think I've seen everywhere on golf courses or running across
the road or whatever. But yeah, and one day I
saw all of the creatures that are paralypticals by and
we saw air a week or two ago in the
same field and we saw those three mooks.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, that was very cool. All right, So love you too,
Welcome to another episode of Just Us on Justice and
other things. I'm Scott Jones here with my baby brother,
Dan Jones, and we were once again unexpectedly justice, but
far less Ragie about this time.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So I think that's that's the growth that we're going
to show today.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I think the difference is you're at the lake a thousand, Like,
if you weren't at the lake, you'd be Ragie, but
you don't care.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, I don't care. And if I drove in an.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
End got counsel a lot, I would have like the
top of my head would have probably come.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Right off, Yes, with heat and lava for sure, But
I don't have time. So yes, we are recording from two.
We're actually not together. We normally record where me and
Scott are together, but he is currently enjoying his time
at the lake and I am sitting in my office
and yeah, we it's beautiful. I don't know what the
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weather's like there, it's still great.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Like twenty five and sunny and dead calm, and lake
is glass.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's uh, I think getting up to thirty degrees here today.
So I'm very happy that I have ericon and actually,
you know what, just on a serious note. I actually
feel so bad for unhoused people in the heat, as
bad as I feel for them in the cold, and
you know, it's as harmful and potentially fatal for these folks.
So I, you know, I'm fortunate to be privileged and
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have air conditioning and work in a building that has
air conditioning, but I do feel for those folks on
this hot summer day. So I have a funny story
for you. I'm gonna call it accidentally. Buzzed is the
name of my story. So I go to the liquor store.
I don't know, I just think it was Saturday. I
buy some things, and you know, there's those little tasting
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booths like they're trying some note. And this lady has
three different things, and I just try one of them.
And I tried the my tie, and I haven't had
a my tie. I can't tell you the last time
I had a my tie. It's a rum cocktail, tropical
drink rum cocktail, and it was delicious. So I bought
this little four pack of these things. And so we,
you know, we were doing our stuff on Saturday, kind
of putts and around, and then we sat down to
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watch the golf and so I'm it was I don't know.
By the time we were done, everything was probably four
o'clock and I thought, I'm gonna try one of those
my tyes. Well, it's a three hundred and fifty five
milliter can, and I'm drinking this thing. And I would
suggest I have a relatively high alcohol tolerance, and that's
probably because I drink too much, but we're not gonna
talk about that, but.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Make that as a suggession. I think that's.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I'm drinking this thing, and by halfway through this thing,
I am starting to feel it, like I'm like, oh,
what in the hell's happening. I didn't look at the
alcohol content twelve point eight percent?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh shit, in a can of that?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
It was it was like drinking a can of wine
twelve point eight percent. And the thing about it, too,
is it's one of those things where it doesn't taste
at all like it has alcohol, like it's just a juice.
And I didn't actually look at the can until after
I was done it, and I was just like, what
is going on? So then I looked at this thing
and it's twelve point eight percent. I'm like, no one,
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I can't even know if I'm gonna drink them, because like,
that's just a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And it made me totally think of that family guy
where I'm so proud of you, Honey, you've only gone
down to one beer a day, vodka beer.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
She don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
That's literally that happened to me, and it was absolutely
totally accidental, and like I'm like, no, like, who makes
a can of anything that's twelve point eight percent alcohol.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's a lot. I'm just so j just the one.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I just had the one, thank God, because i'd been
I'd have been trashed if I didn't. But I it
was probably a good thing that I hadn't eaten a
lot that day, Like I'd had a power shaken, I'd
eating some stuff, but I hadn't eaten a ton, so
I think that probably also contributed to the fact that
it hit.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Me that hard.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
So if I wouldn't have kind of just noticed that
and I would have had two, i'd have been I'd
have been laid out. So yeah, that was my accidentally
buzzed Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Can I also point out that as the whitest man
story ever of getting accidentally buzzed on my ties and
then watching golf.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's pretty late.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
You couldn't be.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
No, You're one hundred percent correct. And the funny thing
about that is the same Saturday that I'm getting accidentally buzzed,
you're doing something remarkable. Actually, I'm sitting there watching golf,
drinking my ties, and you, sir, are doing something that
I was actually talking to Tara about this, my wife
Tara about this yesterday, saying how extremely proud I am
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of you for doing again something that you couldn't do
six months ago, and that's swimming in a try and
not just swimming, but swimming in that competitive trap one
And I think, I just I think it's awesome that
you did that. I think you should be so proud
of yourself and I'm so proud of you for it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank you. Yeah, it was a thing and so to
kind of. So there's some backstory here. Last year I
did the two nine Oho nine, which if you want
to hear about it, we've done lots of episodes on it,
and it was the every single event.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It was an ultra.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You and Terry came as my support team and Kim
and I are a producer did the event. It was
like life changing event and I still compare when I'm
doing difficult things to.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That day and if I have to have.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
A difficult task, which I'll talk about the troth on
in the second like inevitably it's like that's not even
a single ascent on the mountain and Whistler, so everything
is compared to that because that was the the ultimate
test I guess of my addurance.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So I pushed the boundary there. But this became so
there's a jesse Ititzler's.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Popularize it, but it's an old Japanese term is my understanding,
called masogi, and it's doing one big thing a year
that you're going to remember. So just something in twenty
twenty five, twenty twenty four was the other one that
I'm gonna remember.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So I don't, oh, my.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Twenty twenty six is gonna be, but the trathon, What's
gonna be my masogi, which on its surface is not
gigantically remarkable like lots.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Of people do.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But for me there is another layer in that I
don't know how to swim. I did not know how
to swim, and I started swimming in November of twenty
twenty five, so that's about eight months or so of
swimming time.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Nomber twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Twenty four, Sorry, yeah, twenty twenty four. So about eight months.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Ago and my friend Andrew Martin shout out Dander if
he's listening, who is a firefighter in Saint album? He
is a dive instructor. So when I talk him about it,
he's like, I can teach.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Out to swim.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And we started out with like holding onto the side.
He's like, can you float?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No? Are you comfortable in water? Absolutely not?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So we what we did was started out in a
pool in the deep end and I would hold onto
the side, and then he showed me how to move
my arms and legs to float and we would do
that for ten breaths like that that was it, and
then hold on the.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Side, get my heart rate back down and do that
and that.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Was the entire lesson that day. Then we progressed to
floating on my back, which I didn't know how to do.
And then we progressed to literally like a flutterboard, so
I'd hold on the flutterboard with my hands and I'd
kick my feet and then learning how to kick your
feet from your hips not your knees. A funny story
on that is, so he teaches me those things and
we meet every couple of weeks and then he leaves
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me homework up what I need to do. And initially
it wasn't just going for a ship. So I'm in
a pool in Vonton and a lifeguard tries to kick
me out, like I'm nine years old. She's like, I
don't think you can swim the entire legs. I'm like, yeah,
I could if I have to. I don't think you could.
Like You're gonna need to just stay in the shallow
and I'm like, no, I'm fifty fucking three years old,
and he is swear, but I'm fifty three years I'm
not getting out of the shallow in the shallow end
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and like I'm seven and I need a little my
leaface on my shoulder. Like There's been so many opportunities
to be completely humiliated while doing this, and largely the
like swimming community, I guess is really helpful when they
see people doing their thing. Most of the time, people
are really good about, hey, what do you need any
tips or they offer you things or all all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So over the last eight months, progressing through and I
could do the distance.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So the distance for this try was seven.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Hundred and fifty meters and I got to the point
where I could do that, but I can't do it
in a row. So I could go twenty five or
maybe fifty meters, take a breather.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And then continue on. And then I got my time down.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
In practice to about forty forty five minutes, which if
you're a swimmer you know is an.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Atrocious amount of time.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
It is twenty twenty five minutes longer than the slowest person.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
In the pool. It's just not a good time. But
I'm like, well, it's as good as it gets. It
is what it is. I wish I did more, but
I didn't do so.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Jack, my oldest boy, he had done one last year
on his own, his first one, and then this year
he decipted his second one. His swimming isn't as strong
as he would like it to be, but it's better
than mine. And then he's a beast on bike and
Run twenty really focused on the run, so it was
a cool thing where we did together.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So at a couple of days ago started it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
In Everton Kinson Park And what I didn't know is
you start out in because there's so many logistics to
it like where do you put your stuff for do
you park your bike? How do you transition from biking
to running? Or if I'm swimming to biking, like all
that kind of stuff. So there's lots of logistics, which
is good to challenge. My nervous is some because I
don't like logistics like that gets.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Me kind of jangly.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But I was really good with it this time. Get
to the pool. They put you in groups of four,
and everybody has a swim cap. So I've never put
on a swim cap in my life.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I had an orange trump and then they go, okay,
get in.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And there's a counter there, who this lady's counting how
many lops you get to do and you have to
do it thirty times, so twenty five meters there and
back thirty times fifteen, fift times fifty meters, but thirty
times twenty five. So the group I'm with they're not remarkable,
they're better than me. So they're slowly doing their thing,
and again I'm having to take so I'm doing my
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best to stay out of the way.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, probably twenty minutes in they're all out, and now
I'm alone in my lane.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Because they won't fill it. With the next four until
all four are gone. So there's a lineup of thirty
people waiting to get into.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
The pool, and I am ogging.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This one single lane like I'm thinking, just tho those
three people in here, I don't care. And when I
was done, so it was humiliating, but it was like whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And then I see somebody I know on the side.
They didn't see me, thank god that I know of.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So I'm just like, I'm not making icon with people
because I have to take I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Just taking up all the time. And there was a
moment in there I'm like, fuck, I don't know if
I should even bow to do.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's like I have to stop that be yourself talk
and go shut the fuck up. You won't hate yourself
if you don't finish them this swip. And I had
like six or eight legs to go, so get through it.
And I found I went in the water yesterday of
the lake, and what I found that I did was
I went too fast in the water, got my heart
rate really high, then took a break that was shorter
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than I'm used to, and then I burried back and
that's how I jacked myself off. I got my heart
right up, so I so whatever, it was done in
thirty nine minutes, which literally is the.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Best time I've ever had for my swim. So I
was good.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And then go to the bike and the honestly, the
bike and the run felt so good I could It was.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
A twenty k bike five k run I easily could
have done.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Not easily, I could have done double them, like I
could have done a forty k ride and a ten
k run could have been more.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
To do, but I I that would have been less
of push. It's the swim that I really need to
get better at well.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But still it's remarkable and part of it's funny and
at the same time that you have had a lake
lot for I don't know, twenty five years, thirty years,
and you don't know how to swim like that to
me is it's kind of funny because I know that
we used to go out in the boat when with
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other when before you had the lot, we went out
to that lake with other people and we would park
the boat and we would jump in the water and
swim around and something and I swim like you and
that like you can swim like we say that with
when I went with Sammy too, when we would do
when we wo went out to radium, we'd take everyone
in the boat parked about the middle of the lake
and everyone would jump in the water and stuff like that.
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But I guess that's because you're so close to something
that's safe that you're not you know, you're not. You
can you could swim enough that you could do that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, I could live for about twenty five maybe thirty
meters prior to this.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
If the boat suddenly drifted, I'll be able to get
twenty five meters and I'm god paddle, So I'm my
feet in the water, my head is above the water,
and I'm fighting against myself. So completely inefficient, had no
idea how to do it properly.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
The stupid thing for me is I can actually swim underwater.
I like, if I have goggles and a snorkel, I swim.
I can actually swim pretty well. But I cannot swim
without that, Like I like, because I've done I did
snorkeling in Mexico and stuff like that, and it's in
the ocean and you're not able to stand up anywhere
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because it's deep, and it was a saturia reef and
you can't. And I didn't just hang out beside the
boat because that'd be weird. So but I could do that,
but I cannot swim. And you and I have we
recently found out that we have a swimming story and
it's almost identical swimming story, just different lake. And what
happened was for me, it was in Windamere Lake and
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BC and the girls, my daughters were playing with a
beach ball and the beach ball got into the water
and kind of started to drift away, and you know,
I'm I'm gonna go get this beach ball, and as
I'm swimming towards it, it keeps drifting away. And now
I'm to the point where I can't stand in the water.
I'm starting to panic and I'm like, if I don't
get to this beach ball quick, I'm dead. Like no
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one's coming to save me, Like no one. There's no lifeguard, right,
And I finally get to this beach ball, and I'm
hanging onto this beach ball for dear life like it's
a flutterboard and that's what I used to get back
and I'm literally my heart rate probably was two hundred
and ten because I was number one exerting myself. Number
two panicking and yeah, yeah, I almost died trying to
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get a beach ball, and.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You and I had a very similar experience barbly, I
don't know, twenty some years ago, and exactly the same thing.
Beachfove getting pushed out and I'm throwing towards it, and
then I'm starting.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
To go, holy fuck, if I don't get a hold
of this soon, I might be in trouble here. And
I managed to get to it, and the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Because that's an interesting part about this is it's not
just the physical exertion of it, because I'm used to
doing that. I've kind of pushed myself throughout my whole life,
heart rate and all that. But I have a fear
of water, or I've had that fear of water, which
only recently really turned. Like there's different pools that I've
gone to in Edmonton and summer shallow the whole way,
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which is like I don't know, like belly chest deep whatever,
So you can stand up at any time and there's
other ones at our shallow for a while and then
there's a deep end up until probably a month ago,
I stuck to the shallow only and I just need
to be able to put my feet out.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Even when I was training out here at the lake,
I would.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Go out to kind of chest height and then I
would stay that depth the whole way and I wouldn't
go where I couldn't touch the bottom. But about two
or three training goals, so about three weeks ago, I
found actually as it went into deep water, I found
that somehow relaxing like that just the distance between me
and the bottom felt like I was floating above it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I didn't get that same getting jacked up. So
Queen Eepool, where I did.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
The traathlon, that had that where it was shallow and
then deep, and the deep didn't bother me. I was
thinking it might have because I was again kind of
it's a competition, right, like you're not fighting, you're not
racing anybody per se, because I wasn't racing anybody per se.
But you're still in there with three other people and
there's people all around you doing their thing, and you
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don't want to be.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The last guy in the pool. And then I'm the
last kindle and then going ah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But again when I looked at the next day, because
it was a little bit embarrassing, but the next day,
I was like, well, I was faster than I ever
had been.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That's as good as I can expect.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And then the bike, I figure it would take me
an hour, and it took me like fifty to fifty
one minutes. On the run I thought would take me
forty minutes, and it took me thirty six minutes. And
my best ever five k that I can remember, maybe
when I was younger, but I'm not a fast guy.
It was about two weeks ago that I did a
sub thirty five minute five k, which was a summer.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Goal that I had for myself. So I just and
my system has responded really really.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Well to pushing those boundaries of the cardio because the
weights has always been kind of my thing. But this
going a little bit quicker and transitioning from riding a
bike to running, which feels really weird on your legs,
has actually.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Really helped my system.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Nervous system as well, because there is a nervous system
training to all this as well, but also the cardio
oscular system and just how I feel well.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And it's also like you having those numbers after swimming,
because I here, I decided one day this was I'm
an idiot. We were at now this is gonna now
again sound like the whitest, most privileged comment in the world.
We were in Victoria, staying at the Empress Hotel and
it was we had just been outside and had been
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kind of rainy, so we decided we're gonna go to
the hot tub and they had a twenty five meter
pool there. I think it's a twenty five meter pool anyways,
So I decide I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a whirl.
I'm gonna go do some laps, and again I can't
swim worth nothing, So I'm swimming. I think I did
without stopping four laps and I was exhausted. So I
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swam one hundred meters and I went to get out
of the pool. I couldn't. My legs wouldn't help me
get on the lap, like my like. So, the fact
that you have learned to swim and did something that's
physically exhausting, because swimming, if the swimming some of those
funny things, the worse you are at it, oh, the more,
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the more, the more challenging it is on your body,
and the more you know. But the fact that you
did that, got out of that, got on a bike,
had a better time than you expected, got off the
bike and ran, had a better time than you expected.
It's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. I had on a bike that
I'd only.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Ridden once because it was a friend of mine let
me at bike, because it was more it wasn't a
try bike, but it was more aligned with that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So I had spent fifteen minutes on the bike before
just so I could figure out the gears.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and really, while I was in the pool, I'm like,
I know how to run.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Just finish this, get through this. I know this sucks,
and then we're gonna go on a bike, and then
we're gonna go for a bike, right.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And that's fuck. The time doesn't matter. I know I'm
not winning.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, like I didn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I beat one person in my age group of fifty
to fifty five or whatever, so one of like that
that doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But there's one I wasn't last.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, that's kind of the only gold I had.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And the whole time it was two hours and thirteen minutes.
And again to the other thing is that's not even
one ascent and whistling. There was still an hour hour.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Fifteen to go.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
But even during it, while I was running, so the
bike was all good, Like I felt really good at
the bike running and I'm going out my normal, my
recent normal, a little quicker than I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I start to get pains quote unquote in my
right hip, right gut, and I just basically go, shut
the fuck up. That's not real and it's not.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It was like a pain monster. And during Whistler the
same thing. It's not actually an injury, it's not even hurt.
It's your body kind of given you a danger signal
that actually wasn't true. So I'm just like, shut up,
I'm giving you no fucking attention.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Be quiet. And then kept going and it quieted down
a little bit, and then.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Get to just a terrible hill on the run in
the River Belly, and then my left knee cap starts
to hurt. I'm like, no, be fucking quiet. So I
kind of David Goggins a little bit. Yeah, And it
wasn't a shit talking as far as.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I've been negative myself, it was shit talking.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
That pain ghost that kind of floats around sometimes when
you're pushing to these limits, that wants to tell you
a story that is completely fast.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, that's awesome. It's actually you just taught talked about it,
so that we talked about this. We were golfing on
your birthday, which was Friday, and you said something that
I thought was really interesting that you really miss being
on the mountain, like because that would have been the
same day that you did your triathlon, which is also
very interesting universe thing that gave you that on the
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same day. But it just interestingly that you because I
remember you saying, I'm never going to do this again,
like unless someone pays for it for me, because it's expensive.
But you really wished you were there and on that.
So now you understand why people get multiple on their badges.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, because alumni kind of gets recognized as an alumni
of those events, and especially Day one.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I had a gigantic year of missing.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Out, and I watched every story and I followed all
the things on Instagram and kind of got a.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Little teary eye during the video and all that, and
I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's just such a great experience that I get to
compare everything else when something's really difficult, I go, at
least you're not in the middle of the night on
the fucking mountain.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It's not raining.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And even times about that training runs or bikes or
whatever and it's raining, I'm like, yeah, it's in an hour, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Not three and a half hours, and you can go
and dry off and get in the hot town and
blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So if everything that.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
I've been doing physically butts up against that, and because
it was such an.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Impactful effect, so are you going to do another one?
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah? I think so? Not next year? No, No, we
have a different Terry's found a different thing that she
wants to do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That to retreat where there's significant hikes, like fifteen to
twenty five k hikes every day and see kayaking and
all that next summer. So because I've already got to
do my thing, I'm like, yeah, that's totally good, let's
go do that. And then she now has a training
goal be on her feet because that's not something she's done.
So yesterday we went and walked the loop out here,
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which is five and a half k, and we kind
of have a plan for her to spend time on
staremasters and tracks and all that in the winter. So
it's gonna be a thing we can kind of train
two together. I could do that right now, Like I
can go out.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So you do that every week?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I do that.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, we do that every week anywhere from ten to
twenty K. And I think we did one thirty k
this year as well. Meet Kim and I, so that's
no big deal.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I and I really like it.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I like the low snow better than the quote unquote sprinting.
I would I'd like to find two nine o nine
for sure in a couple of years. But some other
ultra event, like I want to do maybe a fifty
K if I can find one that's doable, that has.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
A long enough time.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Period like a twelve hours or more where you have
the completion because they don't want to rush.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
But I can keep going like I don't need to stop.
I can fuel myself really.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Well now, and the trathlon showed that as well, because
after eat first in the morning, which you know, I
used to be so nauseous all the time, I'm eating
first thing on the bike.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm actually eating while I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Riding a bike, which in Whistler last year you have
to or else you literally would make it. So I'm
fueling and hydrating all that, and I like that logistics too,
that you have to you kind of get in tune
with your machine and figure out what your machine.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Needs to keep running.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Like there's an introception, so just like looking at your
inner landscape and seeing what's what.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But that translates to.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Real life when you're just regulated over whatever a meeting
or a saty conversation or whatever. It's that interroception or
having an idea of what's going on and then what
am I going to do about it? If anything? Sometimes
it's nothing and just let the store pass.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, yeah, and that's yeah, it's one of those things.
You know, it's funny as you say that, I was
watching golf again, I'm talking about watching golf and something
that really starts to has started to bother me. And
I don't know why. Maybe it's this is when I
watch professional golfer slam their club or throw their club,
it makes me very very annoyed. And you know it's
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that And you're those guys that you should be regulated
while you're golfing. And number one, there's two things that
make me angry about it. Number One, you're professional. It
doesn't look good. Number two, you're showing every kid out
there who's looking up to you that this is an
okay behavior on a golf course or in life, Like
you can't. You just said it, And that's why it
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made me think about it. You can't be in a
meeting at work and be angry and start and throw
the Kleenex box down, like I just threw a Kleenex
box on, Like, you can't do that at work, So
why are you allowed at work? Like, And it was
actually Scotti Scheffler who did it, and he threw his
putter down. Yeah, he threw his putter down because he
wasn't making putts. And I'm like, and then there was
another one I can't remember who it was, missus a
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sandshot does it? Hits a bad soundshot and then smashes
his club into the sandtrap four times, And I'm like, no,
you don't get to do that, like, and you're you're
being a bad role model in those circumstances. And I
get irritated with even things like this is probably too
much to get heared. I don't know why put so
much effort into user thought. But even when I watch
a hockey game and they're playing the national anthem and
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I see the players swaying and not standing still. But
that kind of stuff bugs me because then you know
why it bugs me, because then it translates to kids
in elementary school where my wife works, doing that in
the classroom, acting like they're the hockey players swaying and there.
To me, there should be respect when an anthem is on.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
But I totally agree with the golfing. I completely disagree
with that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That's fair a way to regulate their nervous system because
they're all jocked up on the same thing. For our
kids standing there, it's hard to stund still, and we
make them sound sill when it's against their physiology. That
side to side swaying is a way for them to
regulate themselves.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I never thought of that. Okay, I'm not gonna be
mad about that anymore. I never even thought. All I
was thinking about it was that they're not paying attention
and there'd being disrespectful. But now you totally are.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But they're trying to contain and deal with that energy
flow that they have going, and it's the same thing
at the kid level.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, that's fair. I never thought about that, and I
probably I probably did the same thing when I was
there's natural Lantos playing. When I was boxing, I probably
did exactly the same thing.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
There's no way you stat totally still or saluted. You'd
have been kind of walking or rocking back.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And yeah, he's doing a self south.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
The bilateral movement is just telling your system it's all good,
we're here, and you're kind of shutting that at the
middle of down.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, thank you for the education on that one.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You are welcome. So we're kind of on the line.
That's a good segue because we talk about cathartic stuff.
So something that you So.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Now I kind of have my activities whatever, and I
have other things for cathartists.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
What do you do for like a cathartic type of activity?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
So what cooking for me is one of my main things,
like I and I'm I'm only allowed to cook a
couple of days a week because my cooking often comes
with I cook with a lot of fat like that.
But I also like to cook, like I like to
do long things like I like to I like to
make sauces from scratch. I like to make soups from scratch,
like I just was telling you, I made a tomato
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basil soup from scratch and kind of looked at a
few different recipes and mashed up my own ideas, made
my own thing, and it was probably the best tomato
soup I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And I like that.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
The problem with me now, though, is I do find
the it's cathartic, but if I make a mistake, I'm
pretty hard on myself. And I got to work on
that because like the other day, I made how would
I make chicken? And I overcooked it and it was
a little bit dry and chewy, and I was mad.
I'm like, I'm terrible, and so I was negative self
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talking on something that I love to do, and I
got to work on that because that's stupid. The other
thing I love is I just love being for me,
just walking with one of my dogs in an area
that is as literally populated as possible, and just being
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alone in the sun and the trees. And I find
that hearing water running. I love hearing water running. I
love I find that super cathartic, unhealthy catharsis. I find
the cathartic in making cocktails, like whether it's like the
other day, I decided I'm going to make a mint julip,
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which is bourbon it's a bourbon cocktail, and I have
fresh mint in my backyard, so I take it. I
have I have a special I literally have a tool
for muddling mint or other things in a drink. And
I sit there and I have a I actually have
I have a mint jewlup glass. So I'm like, and
then I started talking like from I was from Southern America,
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I'm like having a mint julp.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, it's usually about the Southern America likes from Brazil
drinking min julips.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
But yeah, so I find that very kind of healing.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I find water like going down to the creek being cathartic.
Hitting the heavy bag for me is a Hitting the
heavy bag for me is like going home after you've
been gone on a long for a long time and
you kind of get that feeling of that's where you're
supposed to be. I've had that heavy bag. It was
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my grade sixth graduation present from mom and dad. I've
had that same it's that same heavy bag, and that
same heavy bag used to belong to Bruce Crookshank. Yeah,
my dad bought it from Bruce Krookshank. So I got
this hit. It's got duct tape all over place. It
is the most used thing in my life. And yeah, yeah,
it's those kinds of things ground me and and really
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helped me keep my regulation as much as I can
keep my regulation.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Let's listen to a podcaster the Day by Brian McKenzie,
who you've actually had on here.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He's like a very big deal.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He's prolific in the US as far as his training
stuff goes.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
And he basically said everyone should be walking for forty
five minutes.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Per day and breathing only in and out of your
notes for about forty five minutes, and if you can't,
then starting out smaller than that ten or fifteen.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Minutes and working your way up to that.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But oh, when you start talking about regulating your system,
I guarantee you if people and it's hard. It's not
hard to do, it's hard to fit in sometimes, so
it's a matter of making time or that, but making
a point to walk, and that's outside, not on a treadmill,
because then you're also getting the bilaedal still, the stimulation
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of walking. You're getting the sunlight on your eyes first
thing in the morning, you're regulating your breathing.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You're getting the physical benefits of that movement.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
That optic flow of things coming past you is also
telling your system that you're safe.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In cap there's fractals, which I think is.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
The repeating pattern of like trees, et cetera, also as
a way to tell your nervous.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
System that you are safe and called so walking is
so so very beneficial.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Setting a goal of let's say, if seven days a
week is too much for folks, try that two or
three days a week, and then maybe even not necessarily
have a journal, but kind of write down how did
you feel on the days that you walk? Write down
how did you feel on the days you did, And
I guarantee you you'll start to see a very distinct
pattern that on the days you walk, you feel better
than the.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Days you didn't.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Well, journaling is a good idea, and I should probably
do more of it, but unfortunately have a weird memory.
I remember, I remember a lot of things. I am
not say the words. I can't say the words. I
am noticing a difference in my days now with grape
for juice. Oh no shit, yeah, I'm actually talk about that,
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so and here's I'm gonna talk. I'm also the stupidest
person in the world because the first grapefruit juice I
bought was twelve ninety nine. Holy shit, Yeah, it was organic,
and I thought, oh, this is what grapefru juice costs
well in the juice style. The grape for juice now
that I'm buying is four dollars and doesn't it's just
grape for juice. Like literally, you read the label, it's
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grapefruit juice and it doesn't even have any sugar. It's
got some stevia in it, that one, but it doesn't
have sugar. And what I'm doing now is I'm mixing
my grapefruit juice with my cranberry juice. I'man having half
grapefruit had cranberry. So for those of you who want
to know something about me that no one needs to
know about me, is as a young boy or a
young man teenager, I would get urinary tract infections, so
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I would get UTI's, which is not real common for men.
It's much more common for women, and grape cranberry juice
actually prevents it. So I've been drinking cranberry juice for
years to prevent UTIs and i haven't had one for years,
knock on wood. But now I'm drinking cranberry juice mixed
with grapefruit juice. And I'll let you explain it because
you understand it more than I do. But it has
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totally changed my mornings where I'm like I would say,
I don't wake up. I never really woke up tired,
but I'm now way more energetic in the soon, Like
fifteen minutes after I drink grape for juice, it feels
like I'm like wide awake, isn't I don't even know
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how to say it, but I feel much more energized.
And then the same thing at night is I seem
to be ready for bed kind of right away.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
So yeah, So it came from a Andrew Heberman podcast
on how to utilize your body's natural system of cortisole release.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So cortosol gets a bad rap at all. It's too
much cortisol, it's too much stress. All that which it is.
If it's your chronicle stress. We're not doing anything about
how to regulate yourself.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But you have a cortisover reason. I understand Again, I'm
not a scientist.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I just played on a TV.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
My understanding is it peaks if you're getting up around
sixty seven in the morning before you wake up, it
is starting to increase and it peaks around nine am.
That's a good thing because it gets to your ass
moving and gets you into the date. So ways that
you can help regulate that in a positive way is
getting sunlight on your eyes upon waking, which is seeing
as the sun rises, getting five or ten minutes of
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that sunlight on your eyeballs and not staring at the
sun and hurting yourself, but also not with sunglasses on
because it's actually blocking it glasses glasses are fine, and
not doing it through window glass or card glass, so
then it also gets you outside.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And the reason no window glass or.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Car glass is because it blocks some of those photons
that are coming into your eyes. And you have different
nerve cells in your eyeballs that are very sensitive to light,
and when the light hits them, it's setting a cascade
of events of hormonal processes, including getting your quartersol to
go up at.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Around nine am.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And the good thing about that is getting at the
peak around the time that it's supposed to likely leads
to later on in the day, which you're finding is
it gradually slowly starts to de increase and then on
it's time for bead. Your quartersole's really low because it's
set at the right time. The grapefruits comes grapefruit juice
comes in. And this is the first time I've heard that,
because there's research that shows that drinking grapefruit juice first
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thing in the morning is it allows your system to
keep that quartersole high when it's supposed to. So however,
it keeps the receptors. I don't understand beside blind it,
but basically, the grapefruit juice first thing in the morning
lets that quartersole rise up. The only caveat to that
is if someone's gonna try this is if you take medication,
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check with your doctor, because oftentimes grapefruit juice, because of
the compounds in there, interacts in a negative way with
a lot of different medications.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
So this is not medical advice that we're given here.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
You don't take any medications in order to eye, so
there's no doubt such any of that. But if you
do take medications, make sure you're checking with your doctor
before you try this particular protocol.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, no, and each totally. When you said steering straight
at the sun, you totally made me think of Will
Ferrell's Harry Carey. Ya hey, sometimes I stay directing in
with the sun. Anyways, stupid me.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm gonna go back to golfing because there's a funny
story there. So we play a countryside which is just
near Edmonton, and I think it was a year ago,
Me and you and both my boys were playing.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
There's a whole number thirteen. It's like a hundred yard.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Or one hundred and twenty five yard par three, one
hundred twenty five yard.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Par three, so very short fot it's over water and you,
I think punched buck seven eight balls over and over, and.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Me and the boys were like cry laughing. We were
so funny. It was so funny because you did and
then you you never did hit over You.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Have to go around and drop and drop it and
and and probably ninety percent of the time I play
that hole, I drop it into the water like it's
a it's an easy shot. It's like it is, there's
nothing to it. But my mental capacity to overcome water
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is just sometimes not there, especially at that hole, because
I've done it so many times that it's almost like
I've trained myself to punch it into the water. I
have to say the last two times I've played there,
I've made it over and the time before I played
with you, I got a bogie. Last time I hit
it short of the green. The last time I hit
it right of the green, pin high chipped it in
for a tap in par So i've actually parted that
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hole and last a little wile. So now that I've
had two times of going, I'm hoping I have. I've
made it exercise that demon, exercise that demon.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So while we were sitting there, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I said it was, I'm gonna fucking if you die first,
which that's probably perceivable, no offense, then I'm gonna get
a put a memorial bench there for you. Because you
see a memorial benches on golf perses. I'm like, that
would be the perfect hole. Like something like he wasn't
much of a fucking golfer, but he lost a.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Lot of balls here or something like that made this laugh.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Losing the balls, Yeah, Dan Jones, memorial bench on whole
thirteen that the country said.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
I think we should do it now.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I think we should too.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Not even dead yet, just have your like the nineteen
seventy four and then have the underline that it's not yet.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
That'd be hilarious. I wonder how much that would cost.
That would be I.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Guess spouse waiting for like how I spose dies and
then the grave is already dug basically, and then with
a date not quite on that kind of freaking weird.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's not that weird, it's kind of I find cemeteries weird.
I like them though, Yeah, I like them, but I
I you start to like I And it was crazy
because even in going to school in Cambridge, like there'd
be like a little cemetery kind of in the city
near a building, and then you go look and there'd
be you know, person died in seventeen twenty five, and
(38:47):
you're like, holy cow, Like, you know, you don't see
a lot of seventeen twenty five gravestones in Edmonton, right, So,
but yeah, I find gravestones just interesting because you're literally
standing over top of human bodies, right, And that's yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
We've gone out here to go for a drive and
go look at a couple of years ago, we just
had one of those years where we're driving around off
yeah and we just go look at different cemeteries around here.
I know you weren't from the seventeen hundreds, but they'd
still be a little bit dated.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, probably a way cheap road here too. You'll up
nowhere Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Oh fuck, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I got to talk about a little addiction I have
this year.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, that's not necessarily atrocious, but not necessarily good for me.
I can't stop eating McCain cakes. I'm fucking I think
I'm on my fourth one this summer. Started buying them
in about May or June because there's one. I was like, hey,
you know what, you when you're a grown up, you
can fucking get a birthday cake anytime you want. So
I've been smashing through chocolate McCain's chemical cakes all summer.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I actually would suggest that you're probably better off drinking
four handles of rum in the summer then drinking and
eating with McCaine because they were fined sugar. That's in
that thing about like the fact that I bet you
could leave I know they're delicious. I bet you could
leave that cake out on your counter for three weeks
(40:14):
and just eat it and there'll be no mold.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I would almost guarantee it.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, speaking of old, I'm in my I'm in my fridge.
Yesterday I was going to make a snack case of
dia while we were watching golf before supper, like just
kind of in the middle afternoon snack and.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Theweres you take in watching golf, it seems like a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Well you know what, actually probably a lot, because actually
we eat supper in front of the golf because I
tape the golf. I don't watch it live because we're
doing stuff. So I tape the golf and we watch
it into the evening or into the apple late afternoon evening.
But I'm going to look at look for some cheese
to put on the thing. So I find this cheese,
and I find this this plastic container and it's a
charcoterie meats that has obviously been in there for far
(40:59):
too long because the back of all the meat was green.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Gross.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
I just like throw that out right now.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's so gross.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
It is discussed.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm gonna talk about an addiction that you had because
you're not sharing yours.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Tell me about skip the dishes there, pal, Oh, so
I can't.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I have since canceled skipped the dishes. So I'm a
little bit of a nighttime grazer, and my wife has
a tendency of falling asleep very early, so I'll.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Be sitting there and.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
And sometimes like there's times where I would be like,
that's that's nine thirty. I'm kind of hungry. I didn't
eat a lot of supper. I'm gonna order a donare.
Just order it, like who who needs a donare? At
nine o'clock at more? Yeah, So then or then I'd
be like, oh, you know what I feel like, I
feel like some pizza and order a pizza. I feel
like this, order that. Oh you know what, I might
(41:54):
like a a quarter pound er with cheese and just
oh shit, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Oh yeah, see, I'm gonna go with my I have
a piece of cake every second. That third day is still.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Beating your Oh but I have I have solved my
ticke my cats. But the worst was this was had
a few too many drinks, decided I needed a chocolate bar,
so kind of late at night, probably twelve o'clock at night,
(42:26):
I would say I was probably and I was a
little bit buzzed and thought, you know what, I'm gonna
have a chocolate bar. So I ordered fifty dollars worth
of chocolate bars from seven to eleven fifty dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
How many chocolate bars is fifty dollars.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know what, I don't know because totally like a
choco nine year old. So what happens is I actually
fall asleep prior to skip the dishes getting there. I
don't wake up. I don't even recall ordering these things.
Tara opens until she opens the door and says, why
(43:00):
is there a bag of chocolate bars on our front step?
And she then took them to school and handed them
out to children where they probably should be. And yes,
so hence floor forth, no more skip the dishes for
dam If I want a late night snack, I just
I just eat something in the house, like if I
really need something. And I've actually found in my in
(43:22):
my old age and this fiftieth year of life that
eating anything after about seven pm. Now, I would say,
if I have anything after seven pm the next day,
I actually I feel sick. The next day I have
I like something happens with my stomach. I kind of
get gaggy, and so I can't eat late night anymore.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
It's the same like am even with my McCain cake addiction.
Here it is not a late night thing. It's like
eat dinner. We eat early.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
We always have where we've been old people forever. Look
like eating dinner at like five five thirty, so I
might be having deserted six six.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Thirty and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
After that, maybe a handful of chips once or twice
a week. But I just it's not I don't add
if I eat like sugar or whatever eight thirty nine o'clock,
it basically feels like I'm hungover. Like it totally fucks
with my sleep, It wrecks my rem rem sleep.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
It just it is not good my system. But just
not good with any of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Like even like something I used to do and I
can't do anymore. As I used to like sometimes at night,
I'd have a bowl of cereal, like if I kind
of felt hungry, I thought, oh ye, a bowl of cereal.
I can't do that anymore because for whatever reason, now,
if I drink milk late in the middle of the night,
I'll wake up with like acid reflux, like and I
don't drink milk very often, so milk and cereal I found,
(44:40):
like I get acid reflux. And it's like all these
things I could do before that never had an impact
on me. Are all life changes as you age with
your ability to do things and.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
And the thing about it is you have to listen. Yes, right,
your body's telling you something for a reason, right, not
like the you know, it's not doing the fake pain
thing like you did when you're on your trap line.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, that wasn't needed to listen. No, that's because I
know different between that kind of pain and of actual injury.
This was not an injury.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah. And I think if you're, if you're at all
in tune with your body, you know those things, right,
like you know when things are tightened up and you
just need to stretch, or if you need to stop.
And you were really good about listening to your knee
because you did tweak your knee before the trathlon. Yeah,
and you kind of stopped your running a little bit.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah. I took at a week and a half off
running and then the red light thing.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
So a red light therapy, and I don't understand the
science planet, but it was like basically it kind of
wrapped around on.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
The bell pro thing. I don't understand it at all.
It was like I had two weeks.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Of physio and my knee felt great. It was insane
how much better it felt. Pen But I'd use that
same thing during the training for the ever sing last year. Yeah,
I'd alternate tens machine a little electrical doctor whole thing
left knee and then right knee red light, and then
i'd switch it off the other way around, and that
got me through his wall. It's a remarkable device.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
That is wonders fun.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I need to get one of those red light things.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
And I was gonna or I thought I had to
order one.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
I did.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
We got back, so i'll uh, yeah, let's not to
show you which one to get.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, yeah, you can do it. For the rest of
the day.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I'm gonna go walk the dog and maybe go over
a paddle if it stays calm, and go on the
water and hang out and do nothing nice and then
leave early tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Nice. Nice, And I'm going to go back to work.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yes, I'll speaking of work, I guess because we talked
about before.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
That UH Northwest has had some significant cuts previously due
to different federal regulations. But the Justice Program, I think,
I hate to give you a commiment, but I'm going
to UH has a lot of folks who have registered
for it, so there's been the opportunity where I get
to come back to teach again at Dark West, which
(46:54):
is really good, and there's gonna be a whole bunch
of students there, which is really good. So it's uh, yeah,
some kind of came out a little bit. I know,
there's still significant content. There's some significant issues. There are
a lot of folks are on there in the academic world,
but there is a little positive.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah, it's it's it's the I R c C. I
don't even know what that stands for. Government has put
in some regulations for international students, which is a challenge
to pretty much every post secondary in Canada when it
comes to students, but yeah, we have it's gonna be
a different program because right now the program that I'm
teaching in has twenty five percent international students and next
(47:33):
year we'll have zero percent international students. So it's going
to be interesting because the international students do bring with
them different perspectives and it's it's interesting for class and conversations.
So yeah, it'll be what. We're very fortunate we have
two full core hortz of students coming up and starting
in this week actually we have an orientation and yeah,
(47:55):
it's gonna be really it's going to be I think
it's gonna I think we're just going to continue to
grow this program. You know, I do believe, and I'm
obviously biased, that this is probably the best justice program
out there because it's very very critical and it's also
very very topical, and it's really good. I really enjoyed,
and I think the students do too.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Immigration, Refugees and citizenship Canada is what irccs.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, yeah, but I agree again, a little bit biased
there because I get to work in that space. But
I think it's a really remarkable program that has a
bit more breadth and depth to it and similar programs
in other schools.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
And a little more practical than other schools, right.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
Like it's academic without being so academic that it's not
transferable to any real life situation. Yeah, and a lot
of the kids in there, kids are twenty five years old,
but a lot of the students go on and get
because it also has a robust program to place student
placement programs, our internships or whatever it's called, that.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
A lot of those individuals end up getting work in
those spaces that.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
They want to be absolutely. Yeah, No, it's it's really good.
It's it's and and that because the small class sizes,
we get to know the students quite well. And you know,
I get a lot of emails from former students telling
me where they're working, and some are working in corrections,
some are working in policing, some are working in uh,
you know, policing adjacent things like the help teams and
the cop teams, and so yeah, it's it's really good.
(49:21):
It's good. And I know they you know, some of
my students will come back and hang out on open
house day and just to talk to people that are
interested in the program and be like, this is the
best thing that ever happened to me. So it's it's
pretty great.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
And we've had students who have come from other programs
to this one and have said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
So it's not just you, I self Agrandiz, Yeah, that
we can actually be.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
No, no, it's not. And in saying that, I just
want to say that these are the thoughts of dan
It's goott, not the thoughts of anywhere we work and
have worked, and you know, obviously not saying anything negative
about it, but I just these are my thoughts, not
the thoughts of the program that I share.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Defending anybody, but our own stupid faces.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Yes, yeah, awesome. Well we are both still on Treaty
six territory because you are in Saskatchewan near the Thunderchild
Reserve and I am in Edmonton, and these this entire
span of this Treaty six area is the home to
many Indigenous peoples from the Cree, the Dane, the Soto,
(50:31):
the Mayti folks, and it's you know, it's a beautiful land.
And I was walking the other day and I was
walking in Edmonton, and I looked up and saw two
eagles flying, and eagles are such a significant part of
(50:52):
indigenous culture. It just made me think how many people
were walking here when there was no houses and those
eagles were flying over in that beautiful way, and it
just made me be very grateful for being able to
live in this community.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, now I have to add on to that.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
I know that's normal clothing, but I just this weekend
had a very meaningful conversation with my youngest about topic
I'm not gonna put on here, and then we go
to the water after and there's an eagle flying over
top of us.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
And I'm like, my creator apparently approved that conversation.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
And then yesterday we were driving to golf and about
one hundred and fifty meters in front of us were three.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Bull moose in the ditch.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Then they went over to.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
The field and they kind of trod them along, and
then they stopped and out looked at us. And then
we kept going and another five minutes and another baby
bull moose in a swamp staring back at us, and
then two deer.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
It was like a fucking Disney movie looking at us.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
And then when Sam and May were on their way home,
they saw light beer running by the Deer Creek bridge.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
That's a remarkable day for wildlife because you just told
them that's a day. You literally told me like last
week that you had hardly seen any wildlife this year.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
I've hardly seen it. And the only thing we've actually
seen this year is foxes. Weirdly more foxes, and I.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Think I've seen everywhere on golf courses or running across
the road or whatever. But yeah, and one day I
saw all of the creatures that are paralypticals by and
we saw air a week or two ago in the
same field and we saw those three mooks.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, that was very cool. All right, So love you too,
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