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Speaker 1 (00:11):
A big flight, maire, a plane going from Denver to Miami.
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But first right at the top, huge breaking news earlier
in the day. Hey, everybody, how was your weekend? By
the way, Kate Delady here at the helm of ATM
the Charquity Board of Talk Radio YEP. European Union with
a deal with the US a head of the August
first deadline. In fact, the EU is going to buy
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seven hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of US energy
under the new deal, and it is going to be
a fifteen percent tariff on most goods. How about that.
Here's President Trump and the EU had Ursula vonder Lean
talking at his golf club. Since he was over there,
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they decided to meet, he says, And this is what
the two of them described what it was like.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's anna to have you at the New Borough at Turnberry.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And thank you very much, thank.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You, Thank you very much, mister President. Thank you very
much for inviting me here. Indeed, it is today about
trade between the European Union and the United States. We're
together the two largest economies worldwide.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
If you look at.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
The trade volume, it's the biggest trade volume globally with
one point seven trillion dollars among us. And if you
look at our markets, it's a huge market, eight hundred
million people if you take the United States and the
European Union.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so how about that? A very very big triumph,
certainly for the president in what there was some worriesome
moments in the beginning of this, especially with the E
You but and they're being kind of elusive, but they're not.
They didn't dodge it. And now it's a fifteen percent tariff,
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like I said. And the big thing is also the
buy back. If you think of it, I say buy back,
but buying this steal certainly is very, very very big.
It's gonna be an interesting week as we get closer
to Friday, which is August first, all right, It really
truly was a flight mare when you look at what
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happened with this American Airlines flight that caught fire and
had to evacuate before takeoff. Over one hundred passengers and
six crew members were forced to evacuate, go down the
chutes and get away from the plane. Here's what it
sounded like. A passenger, of course, videoed a little bit
of it, and you can hear the sounds of everybody
trying to get off the plane.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Okay, no, all the craft up, your right.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
For the fire.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Drop swatched out for the fire. Yeah, pretty scary, right,
so the Denver Fire Department. So the problem happened on
board this American Airline's flight thirty twenty three from Denver
to Miami. Like I said, the plane was still on
the runway. The airline reported that all one hundred and
seventy three passengers and those crew members I mentioned on
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board safely evacuated. One person was taken to the hospital
with minor injuries. The FAA said in a statement that
it's a possible landing gear incident that tappened during departure
slightly before three o'clock. And like I said, you you
heard what the sounds of it was like. That was
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a video that was posted to Instagram by a passenger
who showed people evacuating the plane, sliding as smoke and
flames where I'm not kidding you billowing from the rear
of the plane. People scrambled as fast as fast as
fast as they could to get off. At the of course,
NTSB is going to investigate and whatnot, and we'll see
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ultimately what they come up with sad news over the weekend. Oh,
this was awful. Somebody in fact texted me, I've got
a couple of friends that live in Michigan, one specifically
that lives in Traverse City, a really good friend from
the great State of Texas that just moved a couple
of years back home, which was Traverse City. But police
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have identified the man they believe that entered a Walmart
and stabbed eleven people at random, Six of them were
in critical condition. It's forty two year old Bradford Gile,
who is in custody and waiting a raiment on a
whole bunch of charges in connection with that mass stabbing
that happened on Sunday. Terrible and it just you know,
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it's a big box store. We know what Walmart is
in the community there, just completely completely in shock over.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
That.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And Julianne Martel, who happened to be in the store
when this happened, heard the screaming, kind of ran toward
it to see what she could do, and this is
what she said.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
I heard screaming, and I went towards the screaming, and
I saw the guy with the knife shove somebody and
after he shoved him. He was headed in my direction.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I was right there.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
I saw the knife, but I got out of his
way in time. And it seemed like all of the
people who got stabbed and got attacked for people who
couldn't physically get out of his way, like people in wheelchairs.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, so of course they were trapped by the way.
Not to confuse you, because the arrayment stuff happened on Sunday.
This happened on Saturday at around four forty three. He
used a folding knife to stab those people. They still
don't know what the motive is has not been determined.
The update on the people is now the critical ones
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are in fair condition, some of them are in fair condition,
and then four are in serious condition. Still very very troublesome.
A lot of people ranging in age from twenty nine
all the way up to eighty years old. Just a
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real shocker, all right. On a happier note, on a
tell me something good note. Some Yeah, a lot of
people tuned in to it has to do with nostalgia,
I'm sure to something new that was streaming. It got
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so much push. It was Happy Gilmore two. Here's one
of the moments from Happy Gilmore too stole my life
from me?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Why would I want to steal the life somebody who
eats pieces him for breakfast.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So there were some There were some familiar faces in this.
Adam Sandler, of course, reprising the role. I've talked about
this before. We watched it. Me and the Hubs watched
it because we like to watch a lot of golf,
and there was every golfer you can imagine from the
past to the present, from the great Jack Nicholas to
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Jordan's Speith and Justin Thomas and Rory McElroy. So the
Cold Classic came out thirty years ago. It featured Julie Bowen.
There's a big surprise with her in the very beginning
of this. Christopher MacDonald, Ben Stillers in it, the late
Carl Weathers, who became an overnight sensation, you know when
you think about the debut in nineteen ninety six. So
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of course Netflix, it's number one in viewing, and I mean,
you got, you know, bad bunnies in it. It's almost
like a Who's who? John Lovett's, Steve Buscemi post Malone
is in it. So it's I'm just gonna say it's
not as good as the first but I don't think
sequels ever are but good for Adam Sandler and kind
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of and and giving us a laugh, because I think
we really need those moments, and I think that we
crave something familiar. So there was funny lines in this
and there are for many of us. There's just that
little threads of humor that he was playing hockey and
instead he went into because he couldn't make it, he
went into a golf and became a pro golfer. It's
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all complete silliness and mayhem. And you know, Happy Gilmore
two definitely is like that as well. All right, hang
with us, coming up next, I'll meet you on the
flip side. Oh what a week we had last week,
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lost way too many people. A lot of conversation about
Hulk Hogan, certainly Ozzy Osbourne and also sadly Malcolm Jamal
Warner too as well, and Chuck MANGIONI also dying, so
there were there were just a lot of people that
took you back. I was talking about nostalgia with with
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Happy Gilmore too, and you think about some of the
names that I just mentioned there and the error that
they were really really popular in too as well in
the nineties and even right before that too, So we
start with our weekly rewind. So the conversation last week
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and the week before that, a lot of it over
Jeffrey Epstein, is there a book, what's going on? What
information is going to be released? And then there were
the meetings with Julane Maxwell, who was Jeffrey Epstein's long
time collaborator and is in prison in Florida. So there
was also the conversation about that, the Justice Department traveling
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to the facility in Florida where she's serving out that
twenty year sentence, and the House Oversight Committee Chair James
Comer issuing her a subpoena compelling her testimony, and there
was like two days of that going on, just where
her lawyer said, oh, she's, you know, answered hundreds of questions,
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She's answered every single question. Well, then the other thing
became this supposed book that had the names of people,
the client list and all of that, and that it
was all going to be transparent, and then all of
that was shut down and infuriated infuriate a lot of people.
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So there were phones ringing off the hooks hooks across
the offices on the hill, and that's when things were
shut down early. We're speaking of the House. Mike Johnson said, listen,
we're not gonna be blackmailed with all of this, and
it was almost time to get out of town anyway,
so he decided we're going to call it early.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
We're not going to play political games with this. We've
all been very clear and transparent that the House Rules
Resolution sets a good standard and requires all credible evidence
to be released. And that's exactly where the White House is.
As I've said many times over last As I've said
many times, there's no daylight between the White House and
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the House. You have to allow the legislation to ripeen,
and you also have to allow the administration the space
to do what it is doing. The President has said
clearly and he has now ordered his DOJ to do
what it is we've all needed DOJ to do for
years now, and that is to get everything released. So
they're in the process of that.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They're in the process of that, and the House comes
back after after the big uh what is it, Labor
Day holiday, so we're talking about September and we'll see
where that all ends up. Carolyn levi Att, the White
House Press Secretary, had not just that on her mind.
She asked a lot of questions about that, but also
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Jerome Powell. There's been all this conversation where the President
had the surprise visit in what the Federal Reserve Chair
is building, how they're redoing the buildings, and that was
a curveball, I think a little bit of a curveball.
But then there was this debate over whether the President
was going to fire Powell, and it's something that hasn't
happened in our history and is very difficult to get
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rid of a Federal Reserve chair. Here's what she said.
Speaker 11 (12:51):
The President talked about this and answered these questions for
you pretty extensively in the Oval office. He has no
plans to fire the FED chair, but he has been
very transparent and expressing his displeasure with Jerome Powell's management
of the FED and also his policies. And the President
is right, by the way, He's been saying this for
a while, but finally economists and experts are agreeing with
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him that Jerome Powell should cut interest rates.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
All right, So there is no there is no horizon
that we're looking over where it looks like there's gonna
be interest rates that are gonna be cut, but you
never know that could change. There's a lot of loss
last week when it comes to some famous people from
different worlds, including Ozzy Osbourne. Like I said, getting off
of the Crazy Train, that was one of my all
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time favorite songs. Here was a little bit of that. Yeah,
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seventy six. He died at the age of seventy six.
He had Parkinson's and he was known as the Prince
of Darkness. He was the man behind the Sabbath Black
Sabbath originally if you remember, way in the beginning of
his career. So it's interesting how many people have paid
tribute to him and said that he was one of
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their musical influences. And you know, this was a guy
who formed Black Sabbath back in nineteen sixty eight. He
was part of that group anyway. He was one of
the main parts of that group. And there are so
many songs that you would recognize if you don't know
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much about Ozzy Osbourne, including if you've gone to any concerts,
some of what is played before the concert. He's was
a controversial figure in many ways, known for infamous antics,
the bat saga, biting the head off of a dove,
all kinds of crazy things. So there was a little
bit of that crazy train in his life, that's for sure,
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all right. Besides Ozzy Osbourne, of course, Hulk Hogan two,
who was a character himself and had some controversy around him.
You know that surrounded him too, But he was one
of the greatest wrestlers of all time. Dead at the
age of seventy four, died in Clearwater, Florida, where his
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home where he's making his home. But wrestle Mania three,
fighting Andre the Giant and so many legendary fights and
just really made his mark in the ring. Is Hulk
Hogan the professional wrestle known wrestler known for his work
with the World Wrestling Federation WWF now WWE and World
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Championship Wrestling wcw Flamboyant, Massive physique, trademark, blonde hair. A
lot of people were into Hulkmania boy, that is for sure.
And then there's a sad story of Malcolm Jamal Warner
dying at the age of fifty four drowning in Costa Rica.
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He was there with his family, and what I loved
about him is how much I heard through other people
in the industry that he gave back to younger people,
and he knew what it was like, even though he
had massive success with The Cosby Show at a young
age to have to deal with failure. And he talked
about that.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
You have to understand that these sharks don't really know
what you are. You're almost the same size as them,
and they don't want to fight. That's why they have
the nick detating membrane on their eye or they roll
their eyes back. I guess I want to protect that
vulnerable pause. I'm sorry, we have to.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
All right, that was the wrong clip. That was Paul
de Guelder, who is part of Shark Week. But here's
Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Talking about an industry where working actors have a ninety
four percent rejection range. You know, so you're talking every
time you go into an audition, you know that nine
of the times you don't book the job based on
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something that has nothing to do with your work. But
at the same time, you have to come in and
bring your a game every single time.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Absolutely. And Chuck Mangioni, known for Feels So Good and
so many others, two time Grammy Award winning musician a
jazz Icon, dies at the age of eighty four. So
what what a crazy, crazy week? Here is Paul de Gelder,
you heard a little bit of that from Shark Week.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
You have to understand that these sharks don't really know
what you are. You're almost the same size as them,
and they don't want to fight. That's why they have
the nickeditating membrane on their eye or they roll their
eyes back because they want to protect their vulnerable parts.
And so we have to pray on their survival instincts
as well.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Standing it down.
Speaker 10 (18:24):
They know when you're watching, they don't want to attack
you when you're watching. They want an easy target. That's
why the tiger sharks always sneak up on us from behind.
You turn around and you see them and they go,
oh nah, I was going that way.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I like him. He was a big part of Shark
Week in many of the shows that were there every night.
I mean, you know, Shark Week went off last Saturday
or last Sunday and ended this past weekend on on Saturday.
So the thirty seventh year on the Discovery Channel, I
watched I think I watched almost every single one of
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the Shark Week episodes. I'm was just drawn to different
things about the sharks, things they've learned. There's coming up
with the Shark Repellen. So interesting what they deal with
with Shark Week, and it's amazing how good it's gotten.
So many of the segments on Shark Week, I think
are absolutely fascinating. Coming up next, The Lions aren't the
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only hot thing in Detroit. Nati Sheriff joins us to
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I'm going to the man Cave, going to the Marcave,
going to the Marcave.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Going to Thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
We are, in fact in the man Cave. Maya Hubbs
is a huge fan of cycling, so I learned more
about cycling than I ever knew before. He always watches
the Tour de France and the Jury to Italian and
all these other races, and I've had people on this
show it's an unbelievably grueling sport, and learned more about it.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I do a weekend show called The Amazing Americans, and
I've had a couple of cyclists on those shows. And
the Tour de France was won again by taj Pegatchar.
He's unbelievable. It's his fourth title and he sealed the
overall victory. We knew this just even days ago, and
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he is an incredible athlete. And what I love is
how classy he is at the end of the thing.
I mean, he's twenty six years old, right, and there
wasn't a lot of drama in this one. I love
that he gave credit to the fans along the way
that get excited in all these towns, these mountainous areas
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and then on the flat stages and whatnot. But let's
know what he said, it's.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
An honor and pleasure to stand on this podium alongside
two best opponents in the race. Big respect, big fight,
and yeah, it was really tough to the fronts and
I'm really really happy and proud that we are standing
here and for this, I must thank to everybody that
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was involved, from my family to the team, friends, everybody
that was just tiny bit support. Thank you so much.
All the fans incredible on the road, almost no almost
no hate on the road throughout all of the twenty
one stages. Was really beautiful to see on all the climbs,
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really amazing fans, so many kids cheering for everybody, not
just for one rider, and it was really something amazing
to to see and to leave. So yeah, really thank
you for the organizer to organize this great event that
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we can fight against each other and that the people
can can see the race and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
There you go. Congratulations to him, like I said, and
I love that he gave credit to the fans. They're
not hating on us so much. This was an interesting
way to say that, that's for sure, we go to
NFL camps. Can you believe it? Yep, we are in
the NFL camps. I said that last week. So you know,
there's rookies to watch, there's teams to look at to
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see who could possibly get cut. Maybe somebody you think
that makes it. Maybe there's gonna be some player that
comes out of the blue. I love, love, love those
underdog stories. So he is not an underdog story. I
watch his kid at LSU. He is unbelievable for people
listening to us in the great state of Louisiana. You
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know exactly who I'm talking about, Jaden Daniels, the Washington quarterback. Unbelievable.
And I listened to a little interview that he gave
today where he was talking about you know, he that
he always gives it as all. This is what it's
about going into camp and ultimately you know, going all
the way through the season and getting through the playoffs.
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Here was his take.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
That's just who I am as a person, and I
want to be the best version of myself when it's
all said down. I want to have no regrets in
my career football. So wherever God takes me and how
I end up with this game is how he does.
But I want to look back at the end of
my current and say, man, I gave I gave him all.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I gave him all, and he we see what
is all is like. They're going to be dangerous in
the NFC East. The Arizona Cardinals. I know we have
a lot of Cardinal fans out there too. They lost
a key member of their defensive backfield before the first
preseason game, cornerback Starling Thomas with a torn ACL. During
Friday's practice. He went down. He had to be carted
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to the locker room. They tested, and they determined ooh,
that's the worst you hate hearing that a torn ACL.
So he ends the twenty twenty five season before it
even gets started. Uh, depressing depressing news. I mean last season.
To give you an idea, Thomas played in all seventeen
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games and started in fifteen of them, he had forty
seven tackles six passes defended. So there's just gonna be
other players that are gonna be more heavily relied on.
I would imagine Max Melton and Jalen Jones would be
in that mix, and Elijah Jones in the secondary. That
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makes sense to me. But you know, there you go,
and they do have a rookie corner too, Will Johnson
was it was there, Yeah, second round pick out of Michigan.
So that's uh so, there's a there's a backup situation there,
but terrible, terrible news. And then you look at the
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Texans and the Texans are without their running back for
an extended period of time with a foot injury, and
Joe Mixon, who was placed on the non football injury
list on July twenty thirty's gonna miss some time. He's
been dealing with the setback for really the last couple
of months. They're going to reevaluate closer to the start
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of the season. He missed three games in twenty four
with an ankle injury, and you think about his he
started it. I think about his first season with the
Texans in fourteen games, he's pretty healthy rush two hundred
and forty five times for over one thousand yards and
eleven touchdowns. So he's a big piece of the puzzle,
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and that's the big thing. The key is what I mentioned,
the injuries, the cuts, who's in, who may be the surprises,
and how about paying the players what they want so
you have them ready to roll. The Dallas Cowboys haven't
reached a contract extension with All Pro edge rusher Micah Parsons,
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who's in his final year of his rookie season. Fans
at Oxnard are lining up and they're yelling pay Mica,
pay Mica, pay Mike out about that and you think about,
you know, last year, how disappointing it was for Cowboy fans.
I mean visibly, you can hear this. You can hear
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them yelling that, and I think that's they're gonna see
that off and on throughout this camp. So we'll see
what happens. The expectation is he's gonna get paid. He's
gonna be the highest paid, one of the highest paid
defensive players in NFL history. But there's been no traction.
There's been no real talks here, so we don't know
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at this point is the answer to that. Right, let's
jump to some baseball news. Yep, there was a slew
of games, including the Diamondbacks, who really got smashed by
the Pirates at PNC Park. Six zip. That's what we
call good pitchen, right. Olivia Dunn's boyfriend struck out. Paul
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Skins struck out again, so dominant. This guy's unbelievab struck
out nine, gave up three. It's in six innings. Right.
He's the first pitcher to have an ERA below two
through his first forty five starts. He's the reigning NL
Rookie of the Year, and I could go on and
on about what he's done. The d Bacs head to
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Detroit to begin a three game series against the Tigers
on Monday. The Pirates play at San Francisco, so then
we go to the Red Sox and the Dodgers. Got
a lot of Bosox fans in this audience Fenway four
to three. They beat the Dodgers and they pick up
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their fifty seventh win on the season. It was a
big one. Yankees and the Phillies out at the Bronx.
Yanks beat the Phills in the end, four to three.
I watched a little bit of this one, and Ryan
McMahon was the comeback man with a tying two run
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double and if we're run second inning against Zach Wheeler.
So they salvaged the finale of a three game series.
And it was an interesting series actually because it was
it would have been a streak of it would have
been a three game slide if they had lost, and
it was. They've had a streak of five games, five
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straight games with errors too, so it's been it's been
rough on the Yankees, although they are fifty seven and
forty eight and the Phils are sixty to forty five?
Is their record coming off of what the All Star
break the other week? How about the Cubs? The Cubs
beat the White Sox. That's a fun game to go to.
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Is that rate field five four sixty two wins on
the seasons? On the season for the Cubs, I know
we got a lot of Cardinal fans. The Padres, unfortunately
at Bush really handed it to them nine to two.
The final score. Oh, I've seen some really good games
out of Bush. Nanny Machado four for five, two doubles
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and three RBI. That's part of the reason. He was
also hit by pitches twice and so the Padres really
breathed to this win over the cards on Sunday to
split a four game series. All right, hang with us.
Coming up on the flip side, I'm gonna introduce you
to Barbara Washington Franklin. Wait to you hear her story
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and what happened to her in court. I'm so pleased
to introduce you to Barbara Washington Franklin. She's a very
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important story to tell here on author's corner, and boy,
she has seen and done it all when it comes
to being a litigator, you know, as a lawyer, and
then what she went through the ringer on the other side,
and that's the name of her book, The Odyssey of
Judicial Corruption, even saying that the hair on my arms
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goes straight up, because I think some of you are
just gonna not believe some of the shock in awe
of all of this. So Barbara, thanks for coming on.
I think your book is super, super important and a
warning for a lot of people. So let's talk about
your story and why you wrote the book.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Actually, my story is well. First of all, let me
just say Kate that thank you for having me on
your show. And I wrote the book because I thought
about what My goal was basically bottom line, and it's
really to encourage and inspire others to stand up to authority.
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I want to educate. I try to educate the public
as to what really goes on in the court room,
what really goes on in a court system, and then
be empowered by my story and inspired by my story
and share their stories and stand up to power and
to authority. As a matter of fact, I think as
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Americans that's a part of our responsibility as citizens. Actually, absolutely,
you said it much better than me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Absolutely, That's why I said, your story is so important.
So tell us what happened to you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
What happened back in I've been a trial litigator forever,
and this was back in the nineties, nineteen ninety five,
ninety six. A young woman came into my office. She
was about thirty one thirty two years old, and told
this harrowing story of how she had been molested and
raped at the age of eleven by a neighborhood vendor.
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She had worked on his truck after you know, after
school and on summers to make money, you know, help
out her family, and then one day he pretends he's
taking them going to a warehouse to get, you know,
all kinds of goods, and it turns out, you know,
he used it to rape her there and it just
so happened that she was eleven when this happened. But
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now she's in my office, she's about thirty two. And
she said she was watching television one evening, watching the news,
and she couldn't believe her eyes. This same alleged pedophile
was on television and he had won the ninety million
dollar lottery jackpot DC jackpot, sharing it was one other person,
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so that means he won forty five million dollars. And
of course now she comes to me after going to
all these other attorneys that turned her down because she
didn't have any money, she was estranged from her family
and basically was homeless. At the time she came to
my office, she was living with a friend. And so
now she wants justice. Of course she wants, you know,
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because she's suffered. She's suffering with PTSD and all these
other ailments. And I thought about it and thought about it,
and actually the first meeting I had to decline to
take her case because she was in such there was
so much rage coming from her I had never seen before.
I was really frightened by it, and I didn't know
if I could handle the case, to be honest with you,
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and so I declined, graciously declares. I said I would
not be able to work with her because of the
level of anger and rage she expressed in my office.
So then a year later she calls my office, she
makes another appointment. She comes in, and of course this
time she sits and she's calmer, she's not wearing sunglasses,
And for some I just was very moved by her story,
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and I really believe that I could represent her and
then be successful in getting her some kind of, you know,
the compensation that she deserved. And so that's what I did.
I took her case on a contingency fee basis. I'm
a solo practitioner, so I mean, you know, I'm on
my own. I took her case. And then after we
tried to settle with this alleged pedophile, this gentleman and
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his family, they refused, their attorneys refused, and then he
thereafter passed. His wife became the executives of his estate,
and she moved to Florida. So now the case, now
that the the you know, the the family, the estate
is in Florida. I followed a suit and Florida Broward
County Circuit Court. I was admitted to the court to
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represent her. This was in May of nineteen ninety six,
the last day of the statute of limitations, and she
started getting threads. We had to hire around the clock security,
blah blah blah. Long story short. About three or four
weeks after I filed suit in Florida, the FBI agent
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in charge of the Miami Dade office contacted me through
my client and said, you need to advise your a
lawyer that we've checked her background. We can't find any
derogatory information that we can use to blackmail her, So
we're going to go after her husband if she doesn't
get out of the case. And of course that was
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because they already knew this case was going to settle
and I would then lose all of my attorney fees,
which was like forty percent of whatever the settlement. And
I talked to my husband about it. He said, no,
this is your work. You haven't done anything wrong. You
can't you know, you can't bend to these people. My husband,
by the way, at the time was director of DC
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Public Library and he was also a past president of
the American Library Association ALA, and we had never experienced
anything like this. Low and behold. Fast forward, it's now fall.
We started getting rumors that my husband was under investigation,
and I said, oh, this is real, and lo and behold.
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In December, my client came to me and said she
had settled the case without any knowledge or any involvement
on my part. Never said a word to me. That
she had settled her case for thirty four million dollars.
This was December of nineteen ninety six. By January February,
it was all over the news that my husband was
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under investigation. Long story short. He was charged with a
conflict of venture's felony. He wound up having to serve
house or rest supervised, you know, supervised, a probation, so forth,
and so on, all because I didn't get out of
the case. And so rather than jeopardize my husband possibly
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being incarcerated because of me and my case, I just
did a hands off because these authorities had shown me
how serious they were in the fact that I was
not going to get paid and if I pursued this matter,
my husband would suffer, and so I let it go.
My husband passed in two thousand and four, and I
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then wrote my first book in two thousand and eight.
But there was something in me, Kate, that I just
couldn't live with myself because of the unfairness and the injustice,
and so in two thousand and nine, I sued my
client for a breach of the contract. And in two
thousand and nine, right after we appeared before the judge,
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we settled the case in one day. The judge said,
I want this settle. We settled the case. My client
never denied having bank statements and so forth and so on.
Then the judge retired. Once the judge retired, this was
in December, the case is then transferred to a new judge.
And when I walked into this judge's courtroom, I said,
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it's over all of my intuition. I knew that I
was in the wrong courtroom. And as it turned out,
this judge, along with other judges, got together and literally
changed the facts of my case. In one instance, the
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March eighteenth, twenty eleven hearing, the former chief judge literally
shook my client down in the hallway outside of the courtroom.
I mean, it's just it's all in the book. Because
no one would believe and because of so much of
my story is so incredible case I actually use the
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bulk of the book is in a transcript format court
transcript format, and I make commentary and I make analysis
to give the reader, you know, a complete comfort and
understanding that this happened, This is what happened in the courtroom,
this is what this is what went on, and no
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one can challenge it. No one can can challenge me
in terms of mine and my veracity or being truthful
about it because they're reading what happened and it's all there.
But you see, in DC, we don't have cameras in
the courtroom. I'm hoping that as a result of my book,
one of the things that will result will be that
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the authorities will see that we need cameras in the courtroom.
And by the way, what happened to me goes on
all the time. It's just that people don't know how
to respond because judges are the untouchables. But I'm here
to tell you that the only difference between you and
me and our listeners and others, between us and a
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judge is that he or she wears a black rope.
That's it. They're human beings. Some are good, some are
not so good. And anytime you have a multimillion dollar case,
as I had, it's up for grabs, it's up for grabs,
and they'll take their chance on changing facts shaking down.
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When I say my client was shaken down in the hallway,
the judge had us go out just I knew instantly
it was a bogus recess. All of a sudden, we're
in the midst of trial, of the hearing rather and
the judge says, oh, I want you to go out
and try to settle this case in fifteen minutes and
then come back again. And I just said, what is this?
This is not right, something is not wrong here. We
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went out into the hallway and within minutes here comes
the former chief judge who's now semi retired judge, and
he obviously was involved, and he comes down the hallway.
He stands right in front of my client and just
stared at her, threatening stares. I said, Hi, your honor,
never even acknowledge me. Is if I this is in
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the courthouse, outside of the courtroom, and you might say, well, Barbara,
what did you say? When we returned to the courtroom,
I was in I was traumatized, My client was traumatized.
And all I could say, and I know this came
from just angels protecting me. I said, your honor, I'd
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like to ask for a continuance until I can decide
how to proceed from this point on, because that's all
I knew to say. And the judge remarks, oh, well,
I'll give you your continuance, and then when you figure
it out, let me know. So he was actually saying,
you see what's going on here right, there's nothing you
can do about it because they're all in it together.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And we're back with Barbara Washington Franklin. We're talking about
her book, The Odyssey of Judicial Corruption. So what happens next?
Where do you go?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
And when I turned and walked out of the courtroom,
I prayed to God. The only thing I could think
of was God, please don't let me regurgitate in the courtroom.
I was so sick to my stomach. I said, let
me get to my car in the garage. Please don't
let me be embarrassed by re regurgitating in the courtroom,
or in the courthouse or on the street. And I
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was able to get to my car after that hearing
is in the this is in my book, This happened,
This is real, This is real. And you might say, well,
couldn't you have appealed to some other job. No, there
is an unwritten practice among the judges. You don't report
on another judge, no matter what the infraction, no matter
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what the misconduct. No, oh, judge reports on another judge.
So then how can you get justice? How can you
get justice? And my own feeling, the book took me
a period of over ten years to actually finish it
because for me, it was like revisiting the nightmare. Every
time I would sit down and start working on the manuscript,
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I would just have to all these thoughts would come
to mind of what I had been through. I lost
my husband, I lost my law office. I mean, it
was just it was just a very hard time. But
deep in my spirit I felt that this was an assignment.
And the silence, the silence is so, it's just so
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I could not live with myself. I can live with
myself now because it's out and I told the truth
and I have no worries about anybody coming after me
and saying oh, you said this about this or that.
And to make the point Kate, that I wasn't even
trying to smear anybody or point fingers. I use all
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pseudonyms for all of the characters, so there's no one
that can say, oh, she said this about me, because
the first thing people would say, oh, is that you?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
And the book?
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Is that who she's talking about? Is that what she's
talking about? I use all pseudonyms, even for family members.
I took this all on my own. The only real
name in there is other than in my acknowledgments, of course,
and in my dedication a family members, I use their
real names. But I took it all because my whole
attitude is I'm telling a story, and America needs to
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hear the story, because America knows all about this truly,
and I am hoping that I'm going to encourage others
to come forth, because, as I said, this is not
something that is special to me. It's just the only
I told my publishers sometime back, I said, the only
difference between me and and other others is that I'm
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telling my story. The stories are out there. It's like
the cottage industry, and as far as DC court system
is concerned, it's like a super It's like a corruption
super highway. It's just that bad I heard, and that's
not an original with me. I can't take it. As
I heard Senator Warren, Elizabeth Warren on the other night
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and she was talking about the Supreme Court and she said,
it's it's a corruption so far away. And I said,
oh my goodness, I have to I have to use
that when I when I when I'm interviewed by Kate,
because that's exactly what it is. It's just a corruption.
It's just there people are taking advantage of and it's
just an abusive power. It's just an abusive power. And
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here I am trying to do the right thing. I'm
representing a young woman who has no resources, no family
or anything. My husband and I kept her off the streets.
You would she she had, she had no fund, she
had no monies, she had no backup, and we we
expended and Kate, from the bottom of my heart, I
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was never paid, not even one dollar. I told her
her never the whole time, and my husband and I
made sure she had a place to say. I remember
one Christmas she was on the street and I had
mentioned it to my husband and I said, well, she's
sleeping on the street. She doesn't have anywhere to go.
And I wasn't trying to ask him for anything because
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he knew that I had been helping her so long.
And then all of a sudden, my husband said, let's
go and send your client some money so she'll have
a good Christmas. And my husband and I went out
and you know, to one of the you know, I
don't know, grocery stores or whatever, and we sent her
like a money order, you know, we sent like fifteen
hundred dollars or whatever, just so she could get off
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the street during the Christmas holidays and get I mean,
so we all suffered. My clients suffered, and we all suffered.
And as I said, I can live with myself now
because I just felt in the deepest part of my
heart and spirit that I couldn't, I could not keep
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this all inside and not tell the world. And I
had the wonderful experience of, you know, having the book
showcased in fran the Frankfort Book Fair last October, and
I met so many wonderful people and they were saying,
this goes on in our country too. Thank you for
writing the book, because we're dealing with human beings, right,
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and human beings are human beings. It doesn't matter the institution,
whether it's the court system, whatever governmental entity there is,
you're dealing with the You're dealing with human beings. But
I think, as particularly as professionals, I had a responsibility.
I could not afford to keep quiet and to be silent,
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knowing that God had blessed me with writing skills, I had,
the time, He'd given me my health. I had all
these blessings, and I tried to write the book in
such a way that you know, it's not out of anger,
because I don't have bitterness or angster. I have nothing
I have because we all have to live with ourselves,
and these people are responsible, they have to live with themselves.
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So it's not that I'm angry at anybody or I'm
trying to bring anybody down. I always say I'm telling
a story, and to make sure no one feels that
I'm pointing at them, I used all pseudonyms. I didn't
use any other than you know, as I said in
the acknowledgments and in the dedication to the book. So
that's that's that's I I really see. I just really
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believe that I am going to sooner or later hear
from some folks in Washington actually because and from attorneys,
because it goes on all the time. This is not
this is not an unusual what, as I said to
my publisher, what's unusual is that I'm telling I have
told the story. That's the only unusual thing about it.
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I don't see myself as special in terms of, oh,
this is this happened to me and nobody else. Oh no, no, no,
this happens all the time because it's an issue of power,
and and I forgot the author. But anyway, I forgot
the gent I think it was a gentleman who said
power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. So these are
people that are charged and empowered with lots of power.
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And in my case, it was just abused. It was
just abused because I don't think those who were responsible
ever thought that I would summon the courage and stamina.
And it just takes you know, writing a book takes
a lot out of you anyway, Oh yeah, but when
you're writing a story like this, it's it's doubly difficult.
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But I just you know, I just made a promise
to myself, and I just I stayed the course and
I had the resolve. But as I said, it took
a period of over ten It took I wrote it
over a ten year period because I would have to
you know, I I was living my life, and so
things would happen. I lost my mom at one point,
and so on and so on, and other things would happen,
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and I just have to put it down. But I
knew that one I would have to finish it, and
so I'm very I'm I'm very pleased, and it's it's
a very comforting feeling to know that I have given
this as my gift to the world. I have given
this story. That's how I see it, really as my
gift to the world, always hoping that someone else will
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be empowered because I try to educate, and you know,
I'm a former teacher anyway, so I really try to
educate in the book. This is what happened, this is
how it happened, and this is how they stripped me.
They stripped me, I said, of an estimated fifty million
dollars because it started out as a thirty four million
dollar settlement, but because of the years that had gone by,
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at some point and the client testified to it in court,
it was like one hundred million dollars at one point
it was just one hundred and young other thing. A
friend of mine reminded me of this. She said, when
you do your tell your interview with Kate Delaney before
my case was dismissed by the court. This was in
January of twenty fifteen. Two months in November, I got
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a call. My client called me because someone wanted to
deposit a million dollars into my attorney, esgro Count, And
I said, I was coming from a friend's funeral and
I still remember, and I said, well, who is this
who wants to do this? Because they knew the case
was going to be dismissed, so they offered me a
million dollars. I said, who oh, I can't. We can't.
I can't devote. I said, no, I'm an attorney. I
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can't have deposits made into my attorney as crow Count.
And I don't know where it's coming from. I said,
I could be laundering money, right, So but that told
me they knew that this is woefully unfair to do
this attorney this way, and so they were going to
see if I would take good Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Wow, what a story.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah, So that's I would say, though, Kate, anyone purchasing
the book, and I know now I'm really I'm sounding vain,
but they won't be disappointed. It's a good read and
I've gotten good responses from people that I know who
have read the book.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
So absolutely you want to pick this up, and maybe
it will and hopefully it will empower you. And the
name of the book again, The Odyssey of Judicial Corruption,
Barbara Washington Franklin. What a great joy to be able
to speak with you. Thank you for sharing your story
and the bravery of doing that and putting it all
together after a decade.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Thanks, Thank you, Kate,
A big flight, maire, a plane going from Denver to Miami.
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
But first right at the top, huge breaking news earlier
in the day. Hey, everybody, how was your weekend? By
the way, Kate Delady here at the helm of ATM
the Charquity Board of Talk Radio YEP. European Union with
a deal with the US a head of the August
first deadline. In fact, the EU is going to buy
(00:38):
seven hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of US energy
under the new deal, and it is going to be
a fifteen percent tariff on most goods. How about that.
Here's President Trump and the EU had Ursula vonder Lean
talking at his golf club. Since he was over there,
(00:58):
they decided to meet, he says, And this is what
the two of them described what it was like.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's anna to have you at the New Borough at Turnberry.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And thank you very much, thank.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
You, Thank you very much, mister President. Thank you very
much for inviting me here. Indeed, it is today about
trade between the European Union and the United States. We're
together the two largest economies worldwide.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
If you look at.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
The trade volume, it's the biggest trade volume globally with
one point seven trillion dollars among us. And if you
look at our markets, it's a huge market, eight hundred
million people if you take the United States and the
European Union.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so how about that? A very very big triumph,
certainly for the president in what there was some worriesome
moments in the beginning of this, especially with the E
You but and they're being kind of elusive, but they're not.
They didn't dodge it. And now it's a fifteen percent tariff,
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like I said. And the big thing is also the
buy back. If you think of it, I say buy back,
but buying this steal certainly is very, very very big.
It's gonna be an interesting week as we get closer
to Friday, which is August first, all right, It really
truly was a flight mare when you look at what
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happened with this American Airlines flight that caught fire and
had to evacuate before takeoff. Over one hundred passengers and
six crew members were forced to evacuate, go down the
chutes and get away from the plane. Here's what it
sounded like. A passenger, of course, videoed a little bit
of it, and you can hear the sounds of everybody
trying to get off the plane.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Okay, no, all the craft up, your right.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
For the fire.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Drop swatched out for the fire. Yeah, pretty scary, right,
so the Denver Fire Department. So the problem happened on
board this American Airline's flight thirty twenty three from Denver
to Miami. Like I said, the plane was still on
the runway. The airline reported that all one hundred and
seventy three passengers and those crew members I mentioned on
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board safely evacuated. One person was taken to the hospital
with minor injuries. The FAA said in a statement that
it's a possible landing gear incident that tappened during departure
slightly before three o'clock. And like I said, you you
heard what the sounds of it was like. That was
(03:53):
a video that was posted to Instagram by a passenger
who showed people evacuating the plane, sliding as smoke and
flames where I'm not kidding you billowing from the rear
of the plane. People scrambled as fast as fast as
fast as they could to get off. At the of course,
NTSB is going to investigate and whatnot, and we'll see
(04:14):
ultimately what they come up with sad news over the weekend. Oh,
this was awful. Somebody in fact texted me, I've got
a couple of friends that live in Michigan, one specifically
that lives in Traverse City, a really good friend from
the great State of Texas that just moved a couple
of years back home, which was Traverse City. But police
(04:35):
have identified the man they believe that entered a Walmart
and stabbed eleven people at random, Six of them were
in critical condition. It's forty two year old Bradford Gile,
who is in custody and waiting a raiment on a
whole bunch of charges in connection with that mass stabbing
that happened on Sunday. Terrible and it just you know,
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it's a big box store. We know what Walmart is
in the community there, just completely completely in shock over.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
That.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And Julianne Martel, who happened to be in the store
when this happened, heard the screaming, kind of ran toward
it to see what she could do, and this is
what she said.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
I heard screaming, and I went towards the screaming, and
I saw the guy with the knife shove somebody and
after he shoved him. He was headed in my direction.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I was right there.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
I saw the knife, but I got out of his
way in time. And it seemed like all of the
people who got stabbed and got attacked for people who
couldn't physically get out of his way, like people in wheelchairs.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, so of course they were trapped by the way.
Not to confuse you, because the arrayment stuff happened on Sunday.
This happened on Saturday at around four forty three. He
used a folding knife to stab those people. They still
don't know what the motive is has not been determined.
The update on the people is now the critical ones
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are in fair condition, some of them are in fair condition,
and then four are in serious condition. Still very very troublesome.
A lot of people ranging in age from twenty nine
all the way up to eighty years old. Just a
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real shocker, all right. On a happier note, on a
tell me something good note. Some Yeah, a lot of
people tuned in to it has to do with nostalgia,
I'm sure to something new that was streaming. It got
(06:48):
so much push. It was Happy Gilmore two. Here's one
of the moments from Happy Gilmore too stole my life
from me?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Why would I want to steal the life somebody who
eats pieces him for breakfast.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So there were some There were some familiar faces in this.
Adam Sandler, of course, reprising the role. I've talked about
this before. We watched it. Me and the Hubs watched
it because we like to watch a lot of golf,
and there was every golfer you can imagine from the
past to the present, from the great Jack Nicholas to
(07:30):
Jordan's Speith and Justin Thomas and Rory McElroy. So the
Cold Classic came out thirty years ago. It featured Julie Bowen.
There's a big surprise with her in the very beginning
of this. Christopher MacDonald, Ben Stillers in it, the late
Carl Weathers, who became an overnight sensation, you know when
you think about the debut in nineteen ninety six. So
(07:53):
of course Netflix, it's number one in viewing, and I mean,
you got, you know, bad bunnies in it. It's almost
like a Who's who? John Lovett's, Steve Buscemi post Malone
is in it. So it's I'm just gonna say it's
not as good as the first but I don't think
sequels ever are but good for Adam Sandler and kind
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of and and giving us a laugh, because I think
we really need those moments, and I think that we
crave something familiar. So there was funny lines in this
and there are for many of us. There's just that
little threads of humor that he was playing hockey and
instead he went into because he couldn't make it, he
went into a golf and became a pro golfer. It's
(08:38):
all complete silliness and mayhem. And you know, Happy Gilmore
two definitely is like that as well. All right, hang
with us, coming up next, I'll meet you on the
flip side. Oh what a week we had last week,
(09:10):
lost way too many people. A lot of conversation about
Hulk Hogan, certainly Ozzy Osbourne and also sadly Malcolm Jamal
Warner too as well, and Chuck MANGIONI also dying, so
there were there were just a lot of people that
took you back. I was talking about nostalgia with with
(09:31):
Happy Gilmore too, and you think about some of the
names that I just mentioned there and the error that
they were really really popular in too as well in
the nineties and even right before that too, So we
start with our weekly rewind. So the conversation last week
(09:56):
and the week before that, a lot of it over
Jeffrey Epstein, is there a book, what's going on? What
information is going to be released? And then there were
the meetings with Julane Maxwell, who was Jeffrey Epstein's long
time collaborator and is in prison in Florida. So there
was also the conversation about that, the Justice Department traveling
(10:21):
to the facility in Florida where she's serving out that
twenty year sentence, and the House Oversight Committee Chair James
Comer issuing her a subpoena compelling her testimony, and there
was like two days of that going on, just where
her lawyer said, oh, she's, you know, answered hundreds of questions,
(10:41):
She's answered every single question. Well, then the other thing
became this supposed book that had the names of people,
the client list and all of that, and that it
was all going to be transparent, and then all of
that was shut down and infuriated infuriate a lot of people.
(11:01):
So there were phones ringing off the hooks hooks across
the offices on the hill, and that's when things were
shut down early. We're speaking of the House. Mike Johnson said, listen,
we're not gonna be blackmailed with all of this, and
it was almost time to get out of town anyway,
so he decided we're going to call it early.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
We're not going to play political games with this. We've
all been very clear and transparent that the House Rules
Resolution sets a good standard and requires all credible evidence
to be released. And that's exactly where the White House is.
As I've said many times over last As I've said
many times, there's no daylight between the White House and
(11:43):
the House. You have to allow the legislation to ripeen,
and you also have to allow the administration the space
to do what it is doing. The President has said
clearly and he has now ordered his DOJ to do
what it is we've all needed DOJ to do for
years now, and that is to get everything released. So
they're in the process of that.
Speaker 10 (12:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They're in the process of that, and the House comes
back after after the big uh what is it, Labor
Day holiday, so we're talking about September and we'll see
where that all ends up. Carolyn levi Att, the White
House Press Secretary, had not just that on her mind.
She asked a lot of questions about that, but also
(12:23):
Jerome Powell. There's been all this conversation where the President
had the surprise visit in what the Federal Reserve Chair
is building, how they're redoing the buildings, and that was
a curveball, I think a little bit of a curveball.
But then there was this debate over whether the President
was going to fire Powell, and it's something that hasn't
happened in our history and is very difficult to get
(12:45):
rid of a Federal Reserve chair. Here's what she said.
Speaker 11 (12:51):
The President talked about this and answered these questions for
you pretty extensively in the Oval office. He has no
plans to fire the FED chair, but he has been
very transparent and expressing his displeasure with Jerome Powell's management
of the FED and also his policies. And the President
is right, by the way, He's been saying this for
a while, but finally economists and experts are agreeing with
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him that Jerome Powell should cut interest rates.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
All right, So there is no there is no horizon
that we're looking over where it looks like there's gonna
be interest rates that are gonna be cut, but you
never know that could change. There's a lot of loss
last week when it comes to some famous people from
different worlds, including Ozzy Osbourne. Like I said, getting off
of the Crazy Train, that was one of my all
(13:37):
time favorite songs. Here was a little bit of that. Yeah,
(14:09):
seventy six. He died at the age of seventy six.
He had Parkinson's and he was known as the Prince
of Darkness. He was the man behind the Sabbath Black
Sabbath originally if you remember, way in the beginning of
his career. So it's interesting how many people have paid
tribute to him and said that he was one of
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their musical influences. And you know, this was a guy
who formed Black Sabbath back in nineteen sixty eight. He
was part of that group anyway. He was one of
the main parts of that group. And there are so
many songs that you would recognize if you don't know
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much about Ozzy Osbourne, including if you've gone to any concerts,
some of what is played before the concert. He's was
a controversial figure in many ways, known for infamous antics,
the bat saga, biting the head off of a dove,
all kinds of crazy things. So there was a little
bit of that crazy train in his life, that's for sure,
(15:16):
all right. Besides Ozzy Osbourne, of course, Hulk Hogan two,
who was a character himself and had some controversy around him.
You know that surrounded him too, But he was one
of the greatest wrestlers of all time. Dead at the
age of seventy four, died in Clearwater, Florida, where his
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home where he's making his home. But wrestle Mania three,
fighting Andre the Giant and so many legendary fights and
just really made his mark in the ring. Is Hulk
Hogan the professional wrestle known wrestler known for his work
with the World Wrestling Federation WWF now WWE and World
(16:06):
Championship Wrestling wcw Flamboyant, Massive physique, trademark, blonde hair. A
lot of people were into Hulkmania boy, that is for sure.
And then there's a sad story of Malcolm Jamal Warner
dying at the age of fifty four drowning in Costa Rica.
(16:27):
He was there with his family, and what I loved
about him is how much I heard through other people
in the industry that he gave back to younger people,
and he knew what it was like, even though he
had massive success with The Cosby Show at a young
age to have to deal with failure. And he talked
about that.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
You have to understand that these sharks don't really know
what you are. You're almost the same size as them,
and they don't want to fight. That's why they have
the nick detating membrane on their eye or they roll
their eyes back. I guess I want to protect that
vulnerable pause. I'm sorry, we have to.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
All right, that was the wrong clip. That was Paul
de Guelder, who is part of Shark Week. But here's
Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Talking about an industry where working actors have a ninety
four percent rejection range. You know, so you're talking every
time you go into an audition, you know that nine
of the times you don't book the job based on
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something that has nothing to do with your work. But
at the same time, you have to come in and
bring your a game every single time.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Absolutely. And Chuck Mangioni, known for Feels So Good and
so many others, two time Grammy Award winning musician a
jazz Icon, dies at the age of eighty four. So
what what a crazy, crazy week? Here is Paul de Gelder,
you heard a little bit of that from Shark Week.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
You have to understand that these sharks don't really know
what you are. You're almost the same size as them,
and they don't want to fight. That's why they have
the nickeditating membrane on their eye or they roll their
eyes back because they want to protect their vulnerable parts.
And so we have to pray on their survival instincts
as well.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Standing it down.
Speaker 10 (18:24):
They know when you're watching, they don't want to attack
you when you're watching. They want an easy target. That's
why the tiger sharks always sneak up on us from behind.
You turn around and you see them and they go,
oh nah, I was going that way.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I like him. He was a big part of Shark
Week in many of the shows that were there every night.
I mean, you know, Shark Week went off last Saturday
or last Sunday and ended this past weekend on on Saturday.
So the thirty seventh year on the Discovery Channel, I
watched I think I watched almost every single one of
(19:00):
the Shark Week episodes. I'm was just drawn to different
things about the sharks, things they've learned. There's coming up
with the Shark Repellen. So interesting what they deal with
with Shark Week, and it's amazing how good it's gotten.
So many of the segments on Shark Week, I think
are absolutely fascinating. Coming up next, The Lions aren't the
(19:24):
only hot thing in Detroit. Nati Sheriff joins us to
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I'm going to the man Cave, going to the Marcave,
going to the Marcave.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Going to Thanks Andy.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
We are, in fact in the man Cave. Maya Hubbs
is a huge fan of cycling, so I learned more
about cycling than I ever knew before. He always watches
the Tour de France and the Jury to Italian and
all these other races, and I've had people on this
show it's an unbelievably grueling sport, and learned more about it.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I do a weekend show called The Amazing Americans, and
I've had a couple of cyclists on those shows. And
the Tour de France was won again by taj Pegatchar.
He's unbelievable. It's his fourth title and he sealed the
overall victory. We knew this just even days ago, and
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he is an incredible athlete. And what I love is
how classy he is at the end of the thing.
I mean, he's twenty six years old, right, and there
wasn't a lot of drama in this one. I love
that he gave credit to the fans along the way
that get excited in all these towns, these mountainous areas
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and then on the flat stages and whatnot. But let's
know what he said, it's.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
An honor and pleasure to stand on this podium alongside
two best opponents in the race. Big respect, big fight,
and yeah, it was really tough to the fronts and
I'm really really happy and proud that we are standing
here and for this, I must thank to everybody that
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was involved, from my family to the team, friends, everybody
that was just tiny bit support. Thank you so much.
All the fans incredible on the road, almost no almost
no hate on the road throughout all of the twenty
one stages. Was really beautiful to see on all the climbs,
(21:49):
really amazing fans, so many kids cheering for everybody, not
just for one rider, and it was really something amazing
to to see and to leave. So yeah, really thank
you for the organizer to organize this great event that
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we can fight against each other and that the people
can can see the race and enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
There you go. Congratulations to him, like I said, and
I love that he gave credit to the fans. They're
not hating on us so much. This was an interesting
way to say that, that's for sure, we go to
NFL camps. Can you believe it? Yep, we are in
the NFL camps. I said that last week. So you know,
there's rookies to watch, there's teams to look at to
(22:42):
see who could possibly get cut. Maybe somebody you think
that makes it. Maybe there's gonna be some player that
comes out of the blue. I love, love, love those
underdog stories. So he is not an underdog story. I
watch his kid at LSU. He is unbelievable for people
listening to us in the great state of Louisiana. You
(23:02):
know exactly who I'm talking about, Jaden Daniels, the Washington quarterback. Unbelievable.
And I listened to a little interview that he gave
today where he was talking about you know, he that
he always gives it as all. This is what it's
about going into camp and ultimately you know, going all
the way through the season and getting through the playoffs.
(23:24):
Here was his take.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
That's just who I am as a person, and I
want to be the best version of myself when it's
all said down. I want to have no regrets in
my career football. So wherever God takes me and how
I end up with this game is how he does.
But I want to look back at the end of
my current and say, man, I gave I gave him all.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I gave him all, and he we see what
is all is like. They're going to be dangerous in
the NFC East. The Arizona Cardinals. I know we have
a lot of Cardinal fans out there too. They lost
a key member of their defensive backfield before the first
preseason game, cornerback Starling Thomas with a torn ACL. During
Friday's practice. He went down. He had to be carted
(24:17):
to the locker room. They tested, and they determined ooh,
that's the worst you hate hearing that a torn ACL.
So he ends the twenty twenty five season before it
even gets started. Uh, depressing depressing news. I mean last season.
To give you an idea, Thomas played in all seventeen
(24:37):
games and started in fifteen of them, he had forty
seven tackles six passes defended. So there's just gonna be
other players that are gonna be more heavily relied on.
I would imagine Max Melton and Jalen Jones would be
in that mix, and Elijah Jones in the secondary. That
(24:58):
makes sense to me. But you know, there you go,
and they do have a rookie corner too, Will Johnson
was it was there, Yeah, second round pick out of Michigan.
So that's uh so, there's a there's a backup situation there,
but terrible, terrible news. And then you look at the
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Texans and the Texans are without their running back for
an extended period of time with a foot injury, and
Joe Mixon, who was placed on the non football injury
list on July twenty thirty's gonna miss some time. He's
been dealing with the setback for really the last couple
of months. They're going to reevaluate closer to the start
(25:41):
of the season. He missed three games in twenty four
with an ankle injury, and you think about his he
started it. I think about his first season with the
Texans in fourteen games, he's pretty healthy rush two hundred
and forty five times for over one thousand yards and
eleven touchdowns. So he's a big piece of the puzzle,
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and that's the big thing. The key is what I mentioned,
the injuries, the cuts, who's in, who may be the surprises,
and how about paying the players what they want so
you have them ready to roll. The Dallas Cowboys haven't
reached a contract extension with All Pro edge rusher Micah Parsons,
(26:24):
who's in his final year of his rookie season. Fans
at Oxnard are lining up and they're yelling pay Mica,
pay Mica, pay Mike out about that and you think about,
you know, last year, how disappointing it was for Cowboy fans.
I mean visibly, you can hear this. You can hear
(26:45):
them yelling that, and I think that's they're gonna see
that off and on throughout this camp. So we'll see
what happens. The expectation is he's gonna get paid. He's
gonna be the highest paid, one of the highest paid
defensive players in NFL history. But there's been no traction.
There's been no real talks here, so we don't know
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at this point is the answer to that. Right, let's
jump to some baseball news. Yep, there was a slew
of games, including the Diamondbacks, who really got smashed by
the Pirates at PNC Park. Six zip. That's what we
call good pitchen, right. Olivia Dunn's boyfriend struck out. Paul
(27:34):
Skins struck out again, so dominant. This guy's unbelievab struck
out nine, gave up three. It's in six innings. Right.
He's the first pitcher to have an ERA below two
through his first forty five starts. He's the reigning NL
Rookie of the Year, and I could go on and
on about what he's done. The d Bacs head to
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Detroit to begin a three game series against the Tigers
on Monday. The Pirates play at San Francisco, so then
we go to the Red Sox and the Dodgers. Got
a lot of Bosox fans in this audience Fenway four
to three. They beat the Dodgers and they pick up
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their fifty seventh win on the season. It was a
big one. Yankees and the Phillies out at the Bronx.
Yanks beat the Phills in the end, four to three.
I watched a little bit of this one, and Ryan
McMahon was the comeback man with a tying two run
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double and if we're run second inning against Zach Wheeler.
So they salvaged the finale of a three game series.
And it was an interesting series actually because it was
it would have been a streak of it would have
been a three game slide if they had lost, and
it was. They've had a streak of five games, five
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straight games with errors too, so it's been it's been
rough on the Yankees, although they are fifty seven and
forty eight and the Phils are sixty to forty five?
Is their record coming off of what the All Star
break the other week? How about the Cubs? The Cubs
beat the White Sox. That's a fun game to go to.
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Is that rate field five four sixty two wins on
the seasons? On the season for the Cubs, I know
we got a lot of Cardinal fans. The Padres, unfortunately
at Bush really handed it to them nine to two.
The final score. Oh, I've seen some really good games
out of Bush. Nanny Machado four for five, two doubles
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and three RBI. That's part of the reason. He was
also hit by pitches twice and so the Padres really
breathed to this win over the cards on Sunday to
split a four game series. All right, hang with us.
Coming up on the flip side, I'm gonna introduce you
to Barbara Washington Franklin. Wait to you hear her story
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and what happened to her in court. I'm so pleased
to introduce you to Barbara Washington Franklin. She's a very
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important story to tell here on author's corner, and boy,
she has seen and done it all when it comes
to being a litigator, you know, as a lawyer, and
then what she went through the ringer on the other side,
and that's the name of her book, The Odyssey of
Judicial Corruption, even saying that the hair on my arms
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goes straight up, because I think some of you are
just gonna not believe some of the shock in awe
of all of this. So Barbara, thanks for coming on.
I think your book is super, super important and a
warning for a lot of people. So let's talk about
your story and why you wrote the book.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Actually, my story is well. First of all, let me
just say Kate that thank you for having me on
your show. And I wrote the book because I thought
about what My goal was basically bottom line, and it's
really to encourage and inspire others to stand up to authority.
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I want to educate. I try to educate the public
as to what really goes on in the court room,
what really goes on in a court system, and then
be empowered by my story and inspired by my story
and share their stories and stand up to power and
to authority. As a matter of fact, I think as
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Americans that's a part of our responsibility as citizens. Actually, absolutely,
you said it much better than me. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Absolutely, That's why I said, your story is so important.
So tell us what happened to you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
What happened back in I've been a trial litigator forever,
and this was back in the nineties, nineteen ninety five,
ninety six. A young woman came into my office. She
was about thirty one thirty two years old, and told
this harrowing story of how she had been molested and
raped at the age of eleven by a neighborhood vendor.
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She had worked on his truck after you know, after
school and on summers to make money, you know, help
out her family, and then one day he pretends he's
taking them going to a warehouse to get, you know,
all kinds of goods, and it turns out, you know,
he used it to rape her there and it just
so happened that she was eleven when this happened. But
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now she's in my office, she's about thirty two. And
she said she was watching television one evening, watching the news,
and she couldn't believe her eyes. This same alleged pedophile
was on television and he had won the ninety million
dollar lottery jackpot DC jackpot, sharing it was one other person,
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so that means he won forty five million dollars. And
of course now she comes to me after going to
all these other attorneys that turned her down because she
didn't have any money, she was estranged from her family
and basically was homeless. At the time she came to
my office, she was living with a friend. And so
now she wants justice. Of course she wants, you know,
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because she's suffered. She's suffering with PTSD and all these
other ailments. And I thought about it and thought about it,
and actually the first meeting I had to decline to
take her case because she was in such there was
so much rage coming from her I had never seen before.
I was really frightened by it, and I didn't know
if I could handle the case, to be honest with you,
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and so I declined, graciously declares. I said I would
not be able to work with her because of the
level of anger and rage she expressed in my office.
So then a year later she calls my office, she
makes another appointment. She comes in, and of course this
time she sits and she's calmer, she's not wearing sunglasses,
And for some I just was very moved by her story,
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and I really believe that I could represent her and
then be successful in getting her some kind of, you know,
the compensation that she deserved. And so that's what I did.
I took her case on a contingency fee basis. I'm
a solo practitioner, so I mean, you know, I'm on
my own. I took her case. And then after we
tried to settle with this alleged pedophile, this gentleman and
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his family, they refused, their attorneys refused, and then he
thereafter passed. His wife became the executives of his estate,
and she moved to Florida. So now the case, now
that the the you know, the the family, the estate
is in Florida. I followed a suit and Florida Broward
County Circuit Court. I was admitted to the court to
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represent her. This was in May of nineteen ninety six,
the last day of the statute of limitations, and she
started getting threads. We had to hire around the clock security,
blah blah blah. Long story short. About three or four
weeks after I filed suit in Florida, the FBI agent
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in charge of the Miami Dade office contacted me through
my client and said, you need to advise your a
lawyer that we've checked her background. We can't find any
derogatory information that we can use to blackmail her, So
we're going to go after her husband if she doesn't
get out of the case. And of course that was
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because they already knew this case was going to settle
and I would then lose all of my attorney fees,
which was like forty percent of whatever the settlement. And
I talked to my husband about it. He said, no,
this is your work. You haven't done anything wrong. You
can't you know, you can't bend to these people. My husband,
by the way, at the time was director of DC
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Public Library and he was also a past president of
the American Library Association ALA, and we had never experienced
anything like this. Low and behold. Fast forward, it's now fall.
We started getting rumors that my husband was under investigation,
and I said, oh, this is real, and lo and behold.
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In December, my client came to me and said she
had settled the case without any knowledge or any involvement
on my part. Never said a word to me. That
she had settled her case for thirty four million dollars.
This was December of nineteen ninety six. By January February,
it was all over the news that my husband was
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under investigation. Long story short. He was charged with a
conflict of venture's felony. He wound up having to serve
house or rest supervised, you know, supervised, a probation, so forth,
and so on, all because I didn't get out of
the case. And so rather than jeopardize my husband possibly
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being incarcerated because of me and my case, I just
did a hands off because these authorities had shown me
how serious they were in the fact that I was
not going to get paid and if I pursued this matter,
my husband would suffer, and so I let it go.
My husband passed in two thousand and four, and I
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then wrote my first book in two thousand and eight.
But there was something in me, Kate, that I just
couldn't live with myself because of the unfairness and the injustice,
and so in two thousand and nine, I sued my
client for a breach of the contract. And in two
thousand and nine, right after we appeared before the judge,
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we settled the case in one day. The judge said,
I want this settle. We settled the case. My client
never denied having bank statements and so forth and so on.
Then the judge retired. Once the judge retired, this was
in December, the case is then transferred to a new judge.
And when I walked into this judge's courtroom, I said,
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it's over all of my intuition. I knew that I
was in the wrong courtroom. And as it turned out,
this judge, along with other judges, got together and literally
changed the facts of my case. In one instance, the
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March eighteenth, twenty eleven hearing, the former chief judge literally
shook my client down in the hallway outside of the courtroom.
I mean, it's just it's all in the book. Because
no one would believe and because of so much of
my story is so incredible case I actually use the
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bulk of the book is in a transcript format court
transcript format, and I make commentary and I make analysis
to give the reader, you know, a complete comfort and
understanding that this happened, This is what happened in the courtroom,
this is what this is what went on, and no
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one can challenge it. No one can can challenge me
in terms of mine and my veracity or being truthful
about it because they're reading what happened and it's all there.
But you see, in DC, we don't have cameras in
the courtroom. I'm hoping that as a result of my book,
one of the things that will result will be that
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the authorities will see that we need cameras in the courtroom.
And by the way, what happened to me goes on
all the time. It's just that people don't know how
to respond because judges are the untouchables. But I'm here
to tell you that the only difference between you and
me and our listeners and others, between us and a
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judge is that he or she wears a black rope.
That's it. They're human beings. Some are good, some are
not so good. And anytime you have a multimillion dollar case,
as I had, it's up for grabs, it's up for grabs,
and they'll take their chance on changing facts shaking down.
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When I say my client was shaken down in the hallway,
the judge had us go out just I knew instantly
it was a bogus recess. All of a sudden, we're
in the midst of trial, of the hearing rather and
the judge says, oh, I want you to go out
and try to settle this case in fifteen minutes and
then come back again. And I just said, what is this?
This is not right, something is not wrong here. We
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went out into the hallway and within minutes here comes
the former chief judge who's now semi retired judge, and
he obviously was involved, and he comes down the hallway.
He stands right in front of my client and just
stared at her, threatening stares. I said, Hi, your honor,
never even acknowledge me. Is if I this is in
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the courthouse, outside of the courtroom, and you might say, well, Barbara,
what did you say? When we returned to the courtroom,
I was in I was traumatized, My client was traumatized.
And all I could say, and I know this came
from just angels protecting me. I said, your honor, I'd
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like to ask for a continuance until I can decide
how to proceed from this point on, because that's all
I knew to say. And the judge remarks, oh, well,
I'll give you your continuance, and then when you figure
it out, let me know. So he was actually saying,
you see what's going on here right, there's nothing you
can do about it because they're all in it together.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And we're back with Barbara Washington Franklin. We're talking about
her book, The Odyssey of Judicial Corruption. So what happens next?
Where do you go?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
And when I turned and walked out of the courtroom,
I prayed to God. The only thing I could think
of was God, please don't let me regurgitate in the courtroom.
I was so sick to my stomach. I said, let
me get to my car in the garage. Please don't
let me be embarrassed by re regurgitating in the courtroom,
or in the courthouse or on the street. And I
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was able to get to my car after that hearing
is in the this is in my book, This happened,
This is real, This is real. And you might say, well,
couldn't you have appealed to some other job. No, there
is an unwritten practice among the judges. You don't report
on another judge, no matter what the infraction, no matter
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what the misconduct. No, oh, judge reports on another judge.
So then how can you get justice? How can you
get justice? And my own feeling, the book took me
a period of over ten years to actually finish it
because for me, it was like revisiting the nightmare. Every
time I would sit down and start working on the manuscript,
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I would just have to all these thoughts would come
to mind of what I had been through. I lost
my husband, I lost my law office. I mean, it
was just it was just a very hard time. But
deep in my spirit I felt that this was an assignment.
And the silence, the silence is so, it's just so
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I could not live with myself. I can live with
myself now because it's out and I told the truth
and I have no worries about anybody coming after me
and saying oh, you said this about this or that.
And to make the point Kate, that I wasn't even
trying to smear anybody or point fingers. I use all
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pseudonyms for all of the characters, so there's no one
that can say, oh, she said this about me, because
the first thing people would say, oh, is that you?
Speaker 1 (44:10):
And the book?
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Is that who she's talking about? Is that what she's
talking about? I use all pseudonyms, even for family members.
I took this all on my own. The only real
name in there is other than in my acknowledgments, of course,
and in my dedication a family members, I use their
real names. But I took it all because my whole
attitude is I'm telling a story, and America needs to
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hear the story, because America knows all about this truly,
and I am hoping that I'm going to encourage others
to come forth, because, as I said, this is not
something that is special to me. It's just the only
I told my publishers sometime back, I said, the only
difference between me and and other others is that I'm
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telling my story. The stories are out there. It's like
the cottage industry, and as far as DC court system
is concerned, it's like a super It's like a corruption
super highway. It's just that bad I heard, and that's
not an original with me. I can't take it. As
I heard Senator Warren, Elizabeth Warren on the other night
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and she was talking about the Supreme Court and she said,
it's it's a corruption so far away. And I said,
oh my goodness, I have to I have to use
that when I when I when I'm interviewed by Kate,
because that's exactly what it is. It's just a corruption.
It's just there people are taking advantage of and it's
just an abusive power. It's just an abusive power. And
(45:38):
here I am trying to do the right thing. I'm
representing a young woman who has no resources, no family
or anything. My husband and I kept her off the streets.
You would she she had, she had no fund, she
had no monies, she had no backup, and we we
expended and Kate, from the bottom of my heart, I
(46:00):
was never paid, not even one dollar. I told her
her never the whole time, and my husband and I
made sure she had a place to say. I remember
one Christmas she was on the street and I had
mentioned it to my husband and I said, well, she's
sleeping on the street. She doesn't have anywhere to go.
And I wasn't trying to ask him for anything because
(46:22):
he knew that I had been helping her so long.
And then all of a sudden, my husband said, let's
go and send your client some money so she'll have
a good Christmas. And my husband and I went out
and you know, to one of the you know, I
don't know, grocery stores or whatever, and we sent her
like a money order, you know, we sent like fifteen
hundred dollars or whatever, just so she could get off
(46:43):
the street during the Christmas holidays and get I mean,
so we all suffered. My clients suffered, and we all suffered.
And as I said, I can live with myself now
because I just felt in the deepest part of my
heart and spirit that I couldn't, I could not keep
(47:04):
this all inside and not tell the world. And I
had the wonderful experience of, you know, having the book
showcased in fran the Frankfort Book Fair last October, and
I met so many wonderful people and they were saying,
this goes on in our country too. Thank you for
writing the book, because we're dealing with human beings, right,
(47:25):
and human beings are human beings. It doesn't matter the institution,
whether it's the court system, whatever governmental entity there is,
you're dealing with the You're dealing with human beings. But
I think, as particularly as professionals, I had a responsibility.
I could not afford to keep quiet and to be silent,
(47:47):
knowing that God had blessed me with writing skills, I had,
the time, He'd given me my health. I had all
these blessings, and I tried to write the book in
such a way that you know, it's not out of anger,
because I don't have bitterness or angster. I have nothing
I have because we all have to live with ourselves,
and these people are responsible, they have to live with themselves.
(48:08):
So it's not that I'm angry at anybody or I'm
trying to bring anybody down. I always say I'm telling
a story, and to make sure no one feels that
I'm pointing at them, I used all pseudonyms. I didn't
use any other than you know, as I said in
the acknowledgments and in the dedication to the book. So
that's that's that's I I really see. I just really
(48:35):
believe that I am going to sooner or later hear
from some folks in Washington actually because and from attorneys,
because it goes on all the time. This is not
this is not an unusual what, as I said to
my publisher, what's unusual is that I'm telling I have
told the story. That's the only unusual thing about it.
(48:57):
I don't see myself as special in terms of, oh,
this is this happened to me and nobody else. Oh no, no, no,
this happens all the time because it's an issue of power,
and and I forgot the author. But anyway, I forgot
the gent I think it was a gentleman who said
power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. So these are
people that are charged and empowered with lots of power.
(49:23):
And in my case, it was just abused. It was
just abused because I don't think those who were responsible
ever thought that I would summon the courage and stamina.
And it just takes you know, writing a book takes
a lot out of you anyway, Oh yeah, but when
you're writing a story like this, it's it's doubly difficult.
(49:44):
But I just you know, I just made a promise
to myself, and I just I stayed the course and
I had the resolve. But as I said, it took
a period of over ten It took I wrote it
over a ten year period because I would have to
you know, I I was living my life, and so
things would happen. I lost my mom at one point,
and so on and so on, and other things would happen,
(50:06):
and I just have to put it down. But I
knew that one I would have to finish it, and
so I'm very I'm I'm very pleased, and it's it's
a very comforting feeling to know that I have given
this as my gift to the world. I have given
this story. That's how I see it, really as my
gift to the world, always hoping that someone else will
(50:29):
be empowered because I try to educate, and you know,
I'm a former teacher anyway, so I really try to
educate in the book. This is what happened, this is
how it happened, and this is how they stripped me.
They stripped me, I said, of an estimated fifty million
dollars because it started out as a thirty four million
dollar settlement, but because of the years that had gone by,
(50:52):
at some point and the client testified to it in court,
it was like one hundred million dollars at one point
it was just one hundred and young other thing. A
friend of mine reminded me of this. She said, when
you do your tell your interview with Kate Delaney before
my case was dismissed by the court. This was in
January of twenty fifteen. Two months in November, I got
(51:15):
a call. My client called me because someone wanted to
deposit a million dollars into my attorney, esgro Count, And
I said, I was coming from a friend's funeral and
I still remember, and I said, well, who is this
who wants to do this? Because they knew the case
was going to be dismissed, so they offered me a
million dollars. I said, who oh, I can't. We can't.
I can't devote. I said, no, I'm an attorney. I
(51:37):
can't have deposits made into my attorney as crow Count.
And I don't know where it's coming from. I said,
I could be laundering money, right, So but that told
me they knew that this is woefully unfair to do
this attorney this way, and so they were going to
see if I would take good Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Wow, what a story.
Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yeah, So that's I would say, though, Kate, anyone purchasing
the book, and I know now I'm really I'm sounding vain,
but they won't be disappointed. It's a good read and
I've gotten good responses from people that I know who
have read the book.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
So absolutely you want to pick this up, and maybe
it will and hopefully it will empower you. And the
name of the book again, The Odyssey of Judicial Corruption,
Barbara Washington Franklin. What a great joy to be able
to speak with you. Thank you for sharing your story
and the bravery of doing that and putting it all
together after a decade.
Speaker 3 (52:37):
Thanks, Thank you, Kate,
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