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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The OKC thunder are heading to the NBA Finals. Boy
oh boy, did they come out and gain of a
file and put the foot on the throat. They showed
a graphic at one point in this game and it
said the Minnesota Timberwolves had fifteen made field goals and
fifteen damn turnovers to match. Talk about the legendary defense,
(00:20):
and we've been talking about it forever, but damn, this
is one of them things. And we've also mentioned how
home court advantage hasn't really mattered much. In the post,
he said, yeah, it has just in Oka. See the
Garden don't really get that level of pop and win
or energy from the team to match the crowd. No
other place has really done that except for OKC, where
they now have only lost one playoff game this entire run.
(00:43):
This team is ridiculous, and we've been saying that, we've
been preaching it, but even then, there were so many skeptics.
There were so many people that had question marks, and
some of them were real question marks, and I can't
look past but I feel like they've answered almost every
single one of them, and there are four games away
from potentially raising the Larry O'Brian trophy. We got to
talk about it, but I do got bills in order
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Shout out to the Minnesota Timbols. I think on tomorrow's podcast,
I'm gonna go more in depth about what could potentially
be next for them, But it definitely felt like they
came out into this game with the idea that this
is where the series ends. You think about last game
with them being this close to pulling off, you know,
(02:28):
and tying up the series too two with Nikhil Jaden
and Dante all having big performances, but Anthony Edwards and
Julius Randall not coming along for the ride. I can
understand how that will be demoralized and you have to
come two days later to Okay See to try to
get the spirit back up. I don't think they were
able to do that. So again, I think I'm gonna
talk about the more tomorrow because I do want to
(02:48):
spend more of the time shining light on the Oklahoma
City Thunder because they've been able to do and be
as good as I anticipated. They just tweeted me a
clip of me talking about the OKAC Thunder before the
season started. We're talking about preseason, and my exact quote was,
I like almost everything about the OKAC Thunder. My first
thing was, like, my Finals prediction was Thunders versus Celtics.
(03:10):
Obviously the Celtics didn't get there, but the Thunder thing
I felt pretty damn good about. Even though the Western
Conference is that insane, right, they had pretty much answered
all of the questions, at least in my mind going
into this season. You think about them going back to
their series against Dallas last year, they were missing three
point shooting, and they didn't really address that. They're actually
on pace to be one of the worst three point
shooting teams to win a championship if they do end
(03:30):
up winning a championship, which is some interesting stuff. I
think they be bottom three since two thousand if I'm
not mistaken. But the three point shooter was a thing,
the rebounder was a thing, and the biggest question was
could their number two guy be a number two guy shakers.
Alexander's been the number one guy in like two playoff
runs at this point, and he has been as consistent
as ever. Whether you like watching, you hate watching, you
(03:51):
think he has a great whistle, whatever, whatever, you have
to admit that this guy is good to give his
team thirty a night, regardless of what coverage you throw
at him. I mean, you do have thees like in
game number three that was where he had fourteen points
or whatever, but more times than not, he's given you
thirty points and he's doing it effectively. So the question
turned into will Dubb be ready? And I thought that
last year there were many times in the Dallas Maverick
(04:13):
series where his team desperately needed him to look like
a number two, but he wasn't necessarily ready for it.
Last series for six games, who were like, damn, this
could be in for ok see because Dub is shooting
thirty percent of the field, he's shooting twenty two percent
from three, and they really need something like that. They
need him to step up because check Homger wasn't playing
as good as he could play either. And then game
(04:33):
number seven, j Dubb answered every question you could possibly
ask about him when you look back at his stat
line overall through that series, it won't tell the full
story about him being you know, really bad for well
five of six games. He did have the thirty point
game in there, and then him having that game number seven.
But since that game number seven, j Dubb has been
basically all of the accolades that he has accomplished for
(04:54):
the regular season, he has now carried those over for
the postseason. With him being an All Star, with him
being an All Defensive player, and with him being an
All NBA player. You're seeing it. You saw it for
the entirety of this series. The rebounding aspect, I don't
know if I remember over the last three series between Memphis, Denver,
and then Minnesota, if I cared about the other team
(05:16):
crashing the offensive glass like we saw them get toe
up at in the regular season and in the postseason.
Last year. Sam Presty went into this offseason and said, Hey,
we need a big Isaia Hartenstein's had a great run
for the Knicks. Let's overpay him for his value. But
we can afford to do that right now. There's a
team that's thirsty to give up an All defensive caliber
player in Alys Caruz, so let's just give him a
scrap player that we don't even like our sales and
(05:36):
Josh Giddy, I think you can still be great. I
don't know. They did everything right, and one thing people
are remember is that they've been able to draft so
fucking well in the Sam Presty era. Obviously you got
the election Poko Shepskis and the Uzman Jane picks occasionally,
but outside of that, Jack and j Dubber the same
draft class, wasn't it pick number two and pick number twelve,
(05:57):
pick number eleven or something like that. This year they
drafted aj Mitchell, who like is a real ballplayer as
a as a rookie and I can't imagine how good
he could be as a role player next year. And
then they got the dude in Nicolo Topicch who was
a top five protected pick before he got injured. He's
just chilling. This team is poised to do. Like you know,
(06:18):
we talked about it being a parody era. I don't
want to act like just because they're in the finals
right now that means the next year they're gonna make it.
Next year they're gonna win, But because they still have
to win four more games for even to have the
conversation about the winning this year. But they are more
equipped than any of the previous champions to do it again.
They are more equip I'm gonna say again, they are
more equipped to do it again more than any other
(06:39):
recent champion. And that is insane to say because as
good as chet Holm Gunny is right now, think about this.
As good as chet Holm Genny is right now, he's
damn good. He's he's already one of the best defensive
players in the league, and he is probably the worst
he ever be. He's in the finals. What what come on? Man?
(07:02):
Nobody loves and open three more when they're up by
forty the moudor at home. You see, I just I
can't sing the praise this and you know, people have
called me a thunder Glazer this entire season, But the
reality is, I just I just saw this team as
many people did. I'm not on the island by myself.
Majority of people looked at this OKAYC team. What they
(07:24):
did last year is being a one seam like they
could carry that over and get better. But I just
saw them as a team that was so well equipped
to pretty much answer any question. A team through with
them and so far with seeing that to be true.
And they are four games away. There are four fucking
games away from winning the NBA Championship and they would
be one of the youngest teams to do it. That's nuts.
(07:45):
And it made me think, like, is this team the anomaly? Right?
You think about you know, teams having the average age
of being like twenty eight to thirty four, where they're
real rotation players when it comes to NBA Championships. Is
this team the anomaly or as a part of it
being the parody eraror if you will, or this new age?
Will we see more teams be relatively young and win early.
(08:08):
I came to the Cluses and this is the anomaly team.
They have an all time guy in Shay. Call it
what you want. He's an all time guy. I know,
so again people don't like him whatever, he is an
all time player. Already. They have an all time kind
of defender and Chet and he's it's very early on
so I'm projecting here, but like, there's a world where
Chet stays healthy for ten years. He's a ten time
(08:29):
All defensive player and Dub's amazing as well. And for
them to have the casings off the bench. It's just
I don't know they're going to the finals and in
this game, you know we did obviously you can tell
I'm not at home. Keys. We shot our episode of
our TV show tonight, so we all watch this game together.
And we got notebooks whatever, well I got my phone
taken notes because I don't bring no book out of
(08:50):
the house. And by the third minute, I stopped taking
notes because we kind of looked at each other and said, yeah,
this is it. Right. We could talk schematically, but like why,
because this is it When you force a team to
have four turnovers in the first two minutes, what do
you you know what I'm saying. They've been able to
put their foot on throats and close out these games,
and I think that is very important for a young
(09:12):
team and not about to go into a series again,
probably versus the Pacers, and I think this could be
a really good matchup because there has not been a
team yet just yet, and maybe this changes that their
lead guard has been able to say, hmm, I had
a good series against this defense, and yah, I'm talking
about this version of defense, not last year's version of
the defense. Whether it be Jah who said he was
(09:33):
figuring it out. But whether it be Jah, whether it
be Jamal Murray had I think he had one really
good game in this series. Whether it be Joh, Jamal
Murray or Anthony Edwards, none of these guys have been
able to penetrate this defense. And obviously the head of
their snake in Indiana is Tyre's Halliburn, who is a
different kind of guard than the guys that I mentioned.
So I wonder if again I'm projected, because that series
(09:55):
stently closed and I'm gonna have a week's like to
think about this if they close out the game tomorrow.
I wonder if the play style of Tyre's Haliberty being
different than what Anthony Edwards does or what John Morant
does or what Jamal Murray does, if that shifts some
things for okay? See, not completely sure? Okay, See he
was completely okay with giving up corner threes his entire series,
(10:15):
AARONI Smith shooting fifty percent and three. I don't know
if you want to get that one off. So I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I'm again
I'm leaning very very heavy. Okay, see, but I think
it could be very interesting quickly because I have not
been on Twitter, but I can recognize that the conversation
around the Minnesota Timbers are going to be widely negative.
And again I'm going to do a deep dive about
(10:36):
this on the podcast. I don't know a world where
they could do some things this offseason where they would
be better than this OKAC team, let me say that.
But also I don't think that they should be over
panicking about losing to a potentially historic team. It feels
very similar to what I said with the last series
versus Denver, especially seeing how okay See took care of
(10:58):
business in this series, that like, maybe Denver is closer
than we all anticipated, right with them taking them to seven.
I think that Minnesota is still a really good team.
And if you told me this was a conference finals
rematch next year, I wouldn't call you crazy. So I
don't know exactly what they would do, but I don't
think they should hold their head low because they lost
(11:20):
this series, because I genuinely do believe that OKC was
just that much better than the competition in the Western Conference.
So yeah, NBA Finals here they come.
The OKC thunder are heading to the NBA Finals. Boy
oh boy, did they come out and gain of a
file and put the foot on the throat. They showed
a graphic at one point in this game and it
said the Minnesota Timberwolves had fifteen made field goals and
fifteen damn turnovers to match. Talk about the legendary defense,
(00:20):
and we've been talking about it forever, but damn, this
is one of them things. And we've also mentioned how
home court advantage hasn't really mattered much. In the post,
he said, yeah, it has just in Oka. See the
Garden don't really get that level of pop and win
or energy from the team to match the crowd. No
other place has really done that except for OKC, where
they now have only lost one playoff game this entire run.
(00:43):
This team is ridiculous, and we've been saying that, we've
been preaching it, but even then, there were so many skeptics.
There were so many people that had question marks, and
some of them were real question marks, and I can't
look past but I feel like they've answered almost every
single one of them, and there are four games away
from potentially raising the Larry O'Brian trophy. We got to
talk about it, but I do got bills in order
(01:03):
to pay those bills. Let me run this ad for you.
Stay toned. This video is brought to you by Mando.
Mando is the real deal when it comes to comes
to smelling weal. I'm always trying to be conscious about
what I put on my body, and having the right
deorderant is pretty essential, right. Mando is vegan, free of dies, cruelty,
free as, no paramans and no sofas, and in this
long last and it gives you up to seventy two
(01:25):
hours of older control. You do got the traditional whole
body deordorant, which is for pitts, packages and feet, packages
and feet, I'll say that again. You also get the
body washed. You get the deordorant in a cream form,
you get a spray form. But my favorite of them
all is the deordinant wipes. I keep these in the car,
I keep them in the gym bag. This is a
(01:46):
real lissense. You never really know when you go you're
gonna break into a sweat and you need to just
just freshen up. And Mando hooked me up, which means
that I get to hook y'all up. If you hit
the link of the description and go to Shopmando dot
com and use Kole Kenny, you can get five dollars
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that is basically over forty percent off of the starter pack,
and that starter pack comes with everything, and I showed
(02:08):
you today. Shout out to Man Dooghin for sponsoring this video.
Shout out to the Minnesota Timbols. I think on tomorrow's podcast,
I'm gonna go more in depth about what could potentially
be next for them, But it definitely felt like they
came out into this game with the idea that this
is where the series ends. You think about last game
with them being this close to pulling off, you know,
(02:28):
and tying up the series too two with Nikhil Jaden
and Dante all having big performances, but Anthony Edwards and
Julius Randall not coming along for the ride. I can
understand how that will be demoralized and you have to
come two days later to Okay See to try to
get the spirit back up. I don't think they were
able to do that. So again, I think I'm gonna
talk about the more tomorrow because I do want to
(02:48):
spend more of the time shining light on the Oklahoma
City Thunder because they've been able to do and be
as good as I anticipated. They just tweeted me a
clip of me talking about the OKAC Thunder before the
season started. We're talking about preseason, and my exact quote was,
I like almost everything about the OKAC Thunder. My first
thing was, like, my Finals prediction was Thunders versus Celtics.
(03:10):
Obviously the Celtics didn't get there, but the Thunder thing
I felt pretty damn good about. Even though the Western
Conference is that insane, right, they had pretty much answered
all of the questions, at least in my mind going
into this season. You think about them going back to
their series against Dallas last year, they were missing three
point shooting, and they didn't really address that. They're actually
on pace to be one of the worst three point
shooting teams to win a championship if they do end
(03:30):
up winning a championship, which is some interesting stuff. I
think they be bottom three since two thousand if I'm
not mistaken. But the three point shooter was a thing,
the rebounder was a thing, and the biggest question was
could their number two guy be a number two guy shakers.
Alexander's been the number one guy in like two playoff
runs at this point, and he has been as consistent
as ever. Whether you like watching, you hate watching, you
(03:51):
think he has a great whistle, whatever, whatever, you have
to admit that this guy is good to give his
team thirty a night, regardless of what coverage you throw
at him. I mean, you do have thees like in
game number three that was where he had fourteen points
or whatever, but more times than not, he's given you
thirty points and he's doing it effectively. So the question
turned into will Dubb be ready? And I thought that
last year there were many times in the Dallas Maverick
(04:13):
series where his team desperately needed him to look like
a number two, but he wasn't necessarily ready for it.
Last series for six games, who were like, damn, this
could be in for ok see because Dub is shooting
thirty percent of the field, he's shooting twenty two percent
from three, and they really need something like that. They
need him to step up because check Homger wasn't playing
as good as he could play either. And then game
(04:33):
number seven, j Dubb answered every question you could possibly
ask about him when you look back at his stat
line overall through that series, it won't tell the full
story about him being you know, really bad for well
five of six games. He did have the thirty point
game in there, and then him having that game number seven.
But since that game number seven, j Dubb has been
basically all of the accolades that he has accomplished for
(04:54):
the regular season, he has now carried those over for
the postseason. With him being an All Star, with him
being an All Defensive player, and with him being an
All NBA player. You're seeing it. You saw it for
the entirety of this series. The rebounding aspect, I don't
know if I remember over the last three series between Memphis, Denver,
and then Minnesota, if I cared about the other team
(05:16):
crashing the offensive glass like we saw them get toe
up at in the regular season and in the postseason.
Last year. Sam Presty went into this offseason and said, Hey,
we need a big Isaia Hartenstein's had a great run
for the Knicks. Let's overpay him for his value. But
we can afford to do that right now. There's a
team that's thirsty to give up an All defensive caliber
player in Alys Caruz, so let's just give him a
scrap player that we don't even like our sales and
(05:36):
Josh Giddy, I think you can still be great. I
don't know. They did everything right, and one thing people
are remember is that they've been able to draft so
fucking well in the Sam Presty era. Obviously you got
the election Poko Shepskis and the Uzman Jane picks occasionally,
but outside of that, Jack and j Dubber the same
draft class, wasn't it pick number two and pick number twelve,
(05:57):
pick number eleven or something like that. This year they
drafted aj Mitchell, who like is a real ballplayer as
a as a rookie and I can't imagine how good
he could be as a role player next year. And
then they got the dude in Nicolo Topicch who was
a top five protected pick before he got injured. He's
just chilling. This team is poised to do. Like you know,
(06:18):
we talked about it being a parody era. I don't
want to act like just because they're in the finals
right now that means the next year they're gonna make it.
Next year they're gonna win, But because they still have
to win four more games for even to have the
conversation about the winning this year. But they are more
equipped than any of the previous champions to do it again.
They are more equip I'm gonna say again, they are
more equipped to do it again more than any other
(06:39):
recent champion. And that is insane to say because as
good as chet Holm Gunny is right now, think about this.
As good as chet Holm Genny is right now, he's
damn good. He's he's already one of the best defensive
players in the league, and he is probably the worst
he ever be. He's in the finals. What what come on? Man?
(07:02):
Nobody loves and open three more when they're up by
forty the moudor at home. You see, I just I
can't sing the praise this and you know, people have
called me a thunder Glazer this entire season, But the
reality is, I just I just saw this team as
many people did. I'm not on the island by myself.
Majority of people looked at this OKAYC team. What they
(07:24):
did last year is being a one seam like they
could carry that over and get better. But I just
saw them as a team that was so well equipped
to pretty much answer any question. A team through with
them and so far with seeing that to be true.
And they are four games away. There are four fucking
games away from winning the NBA Championship and they would
be one of the youngest teams to do it. That's nuts.
(07:45):
And it made me think, like, is this team the anomaly? Right?
You think about you know, teams having the average age
of being like twenty eight to thirty four, where they're
real rotation players when it comes to NBA Championships. Is
this team the anomaly or as a part of it
being the parody eraror if you will, or this new age?
Will we see more teams be relatively young and win early.
(08:08):
I came to the Cluses and this is the anomaly team.
They have an all time guy in Shay. Call it
what you want. He's an all time guy. I know,
so again people don't like him whatever, he is an
all time player. Already. They have an all time kind
of defender and Chet and he's it's very early on
so I'm projecting here, but like, there's a world where
Chet stays healthy for ten years. He's a ten time
(08:29):
All defensive player and Dub's amazing as well. And for
them to have the casings off the bench. It's just
I don't know they're going to the finals and in
this game, you know we did obviously you can tell
I'm not at home. Keys. We shot our episode of
our TV show tonight, so we all watch this game together.
And we got notebooks whatever, well I got my phone
taken notes because I don't bring no book out of
(08:50):
the house. And by the third minute, I stopped taking
notes because we kind of looked at each other and said, yeah,
this is it. Right. We could talk schematically, but like why,
because this is it When you force a team to
have four turnovers in the first two minutes, what do
you you know what I'm saying. They've been able to
put their foot on throats and close out these games,
and I think that is very important for a young
(09:12):
team and not about to go into a series again,
probably versus the Pacers, and I think this could be
a really good matchup because there has not been a
team yet just yet, and maybe this changes that their
lead guard has been able to say, hmm, I had
a good series against this defense, and yah, I'm talking
about this version of defense, not last year's version of
the defense. Whether it be Jah who said he was
(09:33):
figuring it out. But whether it be Jah, whether it
be Jamal Murray had I think he had one really
good game in this series. Whether it be Joh, Jamal
Murray or Anthony Edwards, none of these guys have been
able to penetrate this defense. And obviously the head of
their snake in Indiana is Tyre's Halliburn, who is a
different kind of guard than the guys that I mentioned.
So I wonder if again I'm projected, because that series
(09:55):
stently closed and I'm gonna have a week's like to
think about this if they close out the game tomorrow.
I wonder if the play style of Tyre's Haliberty being
different than what Anthony Edwards does or what John Morant
does or what Jamal Murray does, if that shifts some
things for okay? See, not completely sure? Okay, See he
was completely okay with giving up corner threes his entire series,
(10:15):
AARONI Smith shooting fifty percent and three. I don't know
if you want to get that one off. So I
don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I'm again
I'm leaning very very heavy. Okay, see, but I think
it could be very interesting quickly because I have not
been on Twitter, but I can recognize that the conversation
around the Minnesota Timbers are going to be widely negative.
And again I'm going to do a deep dive about
(10:36):
this on the podcast. I don't know a world where
they could do some things this offseason where they would
be better than this OKAC team, let me say that.
But also I don't think that they should be over
panicking about losing to a potentially historic team. It feels
very similar to what I said with the last series
versus Denver, especially seeing how okay See took care of
(10:58):
business in this series, that like, maybe Denver is closer
than we all anticipated, right with them taking them to seven.
I think that Minnesota is still a really good team.
And if you told me this was a conference finals
rematch next year, I wouldn't call you crazy. So I
don't know exactly what they would do, but I don't
think they should hold their head low because they lost
(11:20):
this series, because I genuinely do believe that OKC was
just that much better than the competition in the Western Conference.
So yeah, NBA Finals here they come.
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