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June 27, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is official.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
The twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA champions is
the OKC Thunder. It is bittersweet that the season is over,
like the twenty twenty five postseason gave us game winners, comebacks, upsets,
gave us everything. So I'm kind of sad about it
being over, and I can't wait to do the rewatch
deep dive later in the offseason when I get bored
about what the hell happened in the twenty twenty five postseason.

(00:22):
But the Thunder just wrapped off a sixty eight win
regular season with the Larry O'Brian Trophy. And whether or
not you respect his game, you like him as a
person or a player, you got to you got to
tip your cap to Shay Gives Alexander because just at
the age of twenty six, he just did something that's
like very rare.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
He won a scoring.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Title, he won the MVP, he won a championship, and
then he wrapped it off with the finals MVP.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
That really is legendary stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I got so much love and respect for this Pacers team,
and we're gonna talk about them in a second. For
them to have that run in the fourth quarter We're like, okay,
see everybody in that arena was like, oh my goodness, no, no, no.
For them to have that level of fight consider the circumstances,
I got nothing, belove, And I'll always remember that team too,
And I feel like it's rare for me to like
have that kind of mindset towards the team that lost

(01:08):
in the finals. But that's how good of a run
it was for them, and that's how much fight they
gave in every single series.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
But again, we're gonna talk about that now.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And we get to the third quarter, and you know,
the Pacers are throwing the ball around, They're turning the
ball over left or right, and OKAC ends up going
up by high double digits or whatever. And I'm thinking
to myself, if OKAC closes out this game, how will
I remember them as a team. And it is very simple,
and it is something that I've been very redundant when
talking about. It is that legendary defense that we have

(01:35):
been seeing. This team has the best turnover margin of
any team in the postseason. This team has just been
an elite level defense. And I know we say a
time and time again, but now I'm thinking about it,
and look, look let me show you how elite of
a defensive run this was for them in the regular season.
These are the stats, right, the offensive and defensive ratings.
In the first round of the playoffs, they went against

(01:57):
the Memphis Grizzlies, who were sixth in offense. The second
round of the playoffs they went against the Denver Nuggets,
who were fourth in offense. And the conference finals they
went against the Minnesota tim Wolves, who were eighth in offense.
And in the NBA Finals they went against the Indiana Pacers,
who were tenth in offense. And y'all know that is
skewed based on the first twenty five or so games
of the season. So this legendary defense just went against

(02:20):
four offensive juggernauts and not only win against these four
offensive juggernauts, shut the Fawcett off quite a bit. Now,
of course, we got two seven games series and they won,
like they just steamrolled that way through these things. But
I think a lot of the stuff that we saw
of them going to seven game series was because the
offense wasn't as advertised that defense really was though. So
that's how I remember this team, Foreverend grave Man, I

(02:42):
will forever remember this team for exactly that. This was
a game that I think check Holmer put on an
absolute masterclass on their defensive side of the balls, just shooting,
and the offense has not been there for him this
seven game series. I thought tonight he was pretty good
and picking his spots and using his body to get
easy ones. But it was the defensive side of the
ball where there was just stretches in that third quarter

(03:04):
where nobody could score other than the TJ McConnell's out
of the T McConnell and Chet Holmer was blocking everything.
He was switching out, he was preventing cuts. He was
just an absolute monster. And I think it's so easy
for a player to recognize, like, man, I'm shooting eleven
percent from three and thirty something percent from the field
as a seventh for the damn this is not really
for me. I can't stay locked in. And he just

(03:26):
recognized the stakes, recognized where he was and just really played.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
A phenomenal, phenomenal game.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Shaye has been so good at the game by game
adjustments like and you just don't get too like poor
decision making games in a row from shape last game,
I thought he looked pretty pretty bad when it came
to decision making, you know, and that was partially because
the end of the paces did an amazing job of
mixing in when they were gonna help, where they were
gonna help from, and who was who they were sending.
And this one, I thought he really did think the

(03:53):
game a little bit better and ended up play making better,
which in time ended up meaning that they got better looks.
A team that had struggled to even take three pointers
in this game, I thought that they got what sixteen
eighteen up in the first half. I'm like, yeah, okay, see,
let's do it. They took forty three pointers tonight. That's
not OKAC. But they recognized the time and the place.

(04:15):
A lot of that is because man, when you get
a team to turn the ball over twenty one times.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You get so many expossessions.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
The Pacers shot seventy shots today, almost twenty more shots
from the OKC Thunder. That is them getting out in
transition and them getting second chance opportunities from Louke Dort
in the second half. And you know, the Pacers tried
to do everything that they could to match some of
the energy to max some of these lineups, but obviously
they were at a big disadvantage considering what happened in
that first first quarter, and it I mean it may

(04:43):
suck because I think through time it might be remembered
as that. Right, what happened with Tyres Haliburton might be
the first thing that comes to mind where you think
about the twenty twenty five NBA Championship Game seven, and
maybe it should be. But I also don't want to
take away from what Okac has put together this entire season. Right,
this is not a surprise champion. They won sixty eight games.

(05:03):
Like I'm already seeing ridiculous hot takes on the timeline
even before the game was over about it being the
worst champion. And if you don't like the team, that's fine,
that's fair. Everybody has their preferences on the styles that
they want to watch as a basketball fan. But the
motherfucking team just won sixty eight. It ain't like they
were a forty one team. They went on a run.
This team has been as good this entire time, and

(05:24):
for them to win this championship, I think they mentioned
when they were doing the whole ceremony it being the
second youngest team to ever win. This is really special stuff.
And Sam Presty. I think you got to start off there, right.
Sam Presty had an opportunity over a decade ago to
build a team that we thought would be in championship
after championship, Final series after final series. They got one

(05:46):
final series and one bad decision, well one of the
biggest bad decisions. And if that as a potential dynasty,
I think Sam Presty learned his lesson after last year, right.
It would have been very easy to try to mortgage
some of these younger dudes to go be big seller
or big buyers. After losing to the Dallas Maveris last season,
he still put he got a guy like Isaid Hartenstein

(06:07):
who was able to impact these games and just watch
the team grow around like a team that basically went
from with nineteen wins to NBA champions in three seasons.
That sounded like a fucking kot for a Q video.
It happened in real life. It just happened in real life.
And I don't know if I expected at two o'clock
in the morning when the Paul George trade broke that

(06:29):
eventually that would lead to OKAC winning the championship. If anything,
I thought that I'm not trying to rub it in
Clippers fans. I promise you I'm not I thought of
anything That trade was setting the Clippers up to go
on multiple runs, and instead it sets Okac up for
their first championship in twenty twenty five. And who the
hell knows what happens after this, Right, even though they
were this juggernaut sixty eight win team, it ain't like

(06:51):
we can guarantee that they're gonna go back. So the
fact that you get one, like so many people have
talked about this, whether it be Steve Kerr or these
people that won multiple championships, always talk about how tough
just getting that first one is.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And Okase can say.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Confidently that we got it and we deserve that, and
I respect the hell out of that.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I want to talk about Tyres Haliburg.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
No, I want to talk about Tyres Halliburn because, like
I mentioned, when you think about the game seven, I
think that the Halliburton injury might pop off more than
anything else that happened in this game. And so y'all know,
Tyres Halliburton is my dog. He's one of my favorite
players in all of basketball. It's rare that I feel
as devastated as I did when that injury happened.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's rare.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I've had it a few different times in my life. Right,
you think about my first year of high school when
the Rose goes down against the seventy six ers. Obviously
that's the moment there. But I feel like, if you
are a fan of sports and you grew.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Up wanting to make it to the league, this is
the type of game.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
You're shooting a driveway about Game seven of the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
My team needs me, right, you've done that before, right,
game on the line? I got a ball, right, a
game of the line. Can you beat some touch? A shot?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
And he misses, Oh, there was four more seconds added
to the shock like that.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
You live for game sevens.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So when he goes down, even before they showed up
the injury like a replay, you see the pop.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I can't I can't stop thinking about or visualized because
they played on the brock as one hundred times when.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
He went down, the emotion that he had.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I haven't talked to him. I'm sure that emotion is
not about, oh, I'm in pain. I'm sure that emotion
is about damn. This is Game seven, and I can't
be there to potentially win this game for my guys,
and I feel so bad for him, I feel so
bad for Pacer fans, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Fucking sick to my stomach over some of.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
The conversations that have happened over the last I don't know,
five days or so when it comes to this, this,
this calve.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Strain, I hate. I hate the way it is taught about.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
At times, a player plays to an injury and struggles
from the field where he ain't given enough. A player
decides to not play and now he don't care about
the team. Skip Bayless had tweaked before Sarry's Halimer goes
down with his injury, making fun of the idea that
he was faking an injury, and then his achilles popped,

(09:21):
and the medical professionals that do sports injuries on Twitter
are saying, yeah, a calf strain can lead to that.
I just I don't know what people want. I just
don't know, because if he would have went down with
that injury like he did in the game and decided
not to come back, he would have been called soft

(09:43):
and not a big called a bad leader because he
wasn't there for his guys, and he was there for
his guys at Game seven. He had three threes in
the first fucking quarter and his achilles snap and it's.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Like, well, come on, man, I just I feel so bad.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
This organization has no ever been this close to winning,
and they lost. And they haven't officially called it achilles tear,
but we saw that they set a lower leg injury
and achilles injury.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
We saw that.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
So not only was he not able to be there
for his guys for a Game seven on court, he
may not be able to play it all next season.
Dame Tatum Halliburton Kyrie Irving towards ACL before the postseason
last year. We're about to go and I feel like
I'm missing somebody up top. Hey, We're about to go
into a twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six season without

(10:34):
some of the best players in the league.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
And you know, some of these are like the Damian.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Lillard won in the in the Tyres halliburnon one feels
pretty similar. I'm injured, but it's the playoffs, baby, I
gotta do something. I gotta go out there and try
to help my team. I think it was Giler Arenas
I said he texted or told to Tatum and dame
about their injuries, and he said that both of them
said that they had a calf streams before it happened.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So how about this now?

Speaker 2 (11:05):
And I'm sure everybody's gonna forget about this next year,
and somebody else is gonna be going thro an injury
and we gonna make fun of him for.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not not playing.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
When you see somebody's out with an injury or playing
through an injury, accepted at face value. These dudes are
so hyper competitive. Nobody is out there, especially not the
cream and the crop, the all NBA players are not
about to fake an injury, y'all.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Come on, man, It's so frustrating the way our game
is covered. I hate so much about it. But I was.
I was genuinely emotional. I ain't afraid to say it.
I was genuinely emotional. Man. I was genuinely emotional when
it happened.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Because win or lose, I don't know what happens in
this game if he plays, but he has the opportunity
to lay it all on the court and say that
if we lost, we lost because well, you lost with
me instead of without me. And when they show them
walking off the court, the cameras following teas McConnell, who
is extremely emotional with someone. I don't know if that

(12:03):
was a relative or whatever, and the relative tails the
camera get out of here. Then it cuts to the
other camera and got Reese on the crutches and he's
he's hugging TJ.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
McConnell's man. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Get into the finals is really hard. So to be
this close, I can understand the emotion. I can understand
the emotion.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I am extremely proud and happy for the OKAC Thunder.
I am extremely proud and happy for the fight the
Pacers gave us.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
This was a seven game series, a series that the
Pacers were I'm sorry the OKC Thunder were a minus
seven hundred favorite in this one. This series should not
have gone seven Carlyle. Even though pasc whoa.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Series is whoa.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Pascus, the Ox probably played a little bit more. Regardless,
it was a great series. It was a great series,
a great sea. And now we point our attention to
the NBA Draft and free agency.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah,
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