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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's talk about NBA gap years. It's been on my
mind over the last couple of hours or so, and
I feel like this upcoming season of twenty twenty five
to twenty twenty six season, there are a few teams
that are uniquely in a position to potentially have a
gap year. Now, in my mind, the way I would
define gap year in the sports census, a team that
has traditionally been good over the last few seasons that
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have to turn the dial back for one year, and
with the attempt to eventually turn that dial right back up.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's like school, right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was, in theory, supposed to be taking a gap
year to see if YouTube could work.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Ain't never go back.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So my gap year turned into a lifetime and some
of your favorite teams been on a lifetime gap year,
you know what I'm saying. But there are two teams
in basketball, one of them that was just in the
NBA Finals that could potentially be turning that dial back
a little bit for the future. Now, before we talk
about the gap year, I want to talk about how
you even got here.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know, it's the off season, right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And people are going through old tweets and and you
know last year Patrick Williams signed a five year, ninety
million dollar and some bonehead on X quoted as saying
good value. W that guy didn't know what the hell
he was talking about, because comparative to the contract that
he was paid, Patrick Williams was one of the worst players.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
In basketball last season.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So I'm thinking about that, not just because I'm a
Bulls fan and I have to root for this team
and Patrick Willis. If're watching this video, trust me, I
still believe.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
These a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I was thinking about the twenty twenty draft class and
how there are a few teams that we missing in
that draft. Of course, the Bulls being at the top
of the list. When you jump up from whatever odds
they had to the top four, you needed to hit
that pick, and we did it again. The Bulls are
not one of those teams that was on the gap year.
They're just perennial league really bad. But in that same
draft class, there was a team also in the top
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four that was going through their gap year, and that
team was, of course, the Golden Say Warriors. We have
to remember what we were on the timeline the year
before this, they had just lost in the NBA finals.
Kevin Durant went over to Brooklyn, and now the Olden
State Warriors are trying to put some pieces back together. Also,
Klay Thompson of course been out with his multiple leg injuries. Right,
they go into that season, Steph Curry plays what four
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games before he breaks his hand against the Suns, and
now they're looking around like, hey, we have our own
first round pick the season. Let anybody who for us,
this is going to be our gap year. And well
they were bad, like really really bad, and they win
with fifteen games that season, and that is how they
end up with the number two overall pick. In the
midst of their gap year, they traded away some assets
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to end up getting the future first round pick. That
future first round pick turned into, of course, Jonathan Kaminga.
So during their gap year they jump up to the
second overall pick. The year after that they were better
but not as good. So the next year they have
two lottery picks again that turn into Kaminga and Moses Moody.
And because of the situation with Kaminga and we don't
know where his value is at or if he'll be
on the team next season. If he is on the team,
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who's gonna be happy, and so on and so forth.
We can just as of today, say that the three
picks they had in the twenty twenty draft class, in
the twenty twenty one draft classes, we're missing, just missus.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The gap year is.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Supposed to bridge what your previous team looked like, the
team that was a contender or the team in this
case that won multiple championships, was supposed to bridge them
to a new era where they could continue their contention.
Now and don't say words defense. Of course, they went
on to win another championship. A lot of the young
guys that we mentioned in the twenty twenty drivet class
and the twenty twenty one drivet class and none of
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a lot of those guys didn't really contribute that much
to that championship, but damn it, they won a championship,
and they continue to keep that window open. But now
we're in twenty twenty five. One of those guys is
off the team and damn it, basically out of the league.
And both of the other guys are there, but we're
questioning what their role even looks like. So you can
say that in the Warriors gap year they didn't get
full value, and again, get it full value in the
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gap year based on all the instances that I have
in my head I've been thinking about over last couple hours.
Bridging that gap has been extremely difficult for teams across
the association in recent history. You could argue that the
Philadelphia seventy six Ers just completed gap year in the
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five season where they
made a big acquisition in Paul George, he didn't play well,
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Joe Labidis in and out of the lineup, and they
ended up retaining their our first round pick.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It ended up getting VJ. Edgecomb.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now we still have to figure out what Vj's going
to turn into as a player and figure out if
that was more of bridging the gap or starting or
turning a low leaf completely. We don't really know the
seventy six ers, but you know they were in a
similar situation and again getting back to the twenty twenty
draft class again, even though the Warriors did go on
to win more more championship, shout out to Wigginson company.
If they would have hit on one of the three
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picks that were talking about the twenty twenty and twenty
two and one draft class, we could be looking at
the Warriors a lot differently in twenty twenty five. Now
in their small stretcher they had Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry,
and Draymond Green They were pretty damn good. And Steph
Curry got injured in the postseason and we don't really
know what would.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Have happened if he stayed healthy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I find it hard to believe that, based on
what we just saw in the twenty twenty five playoffs,
that this team full of dinosaurs and their defense like
legendary dinosaur and Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler and Dremon Greenhall
are all gonna be Hall of Famers. Could that team
of dinosaurs win four series in the postseason? Like how
physical and grinded out every single game was the war
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for the OKC Thunder or every single game was for
the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's hard for me to see that old team being
able to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But that's why if you hit on twenty twenty or
twenty twenty one, these young guys us ring in and
it's like, we're cool.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Jimmy, of course you can do your thing, but I
got this. They don't really have that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But again, let's get to now the current day, and
I'm going to start off with the Pacers. Now, the
Pacers and in the Celtics, those are the two teams
I'm really talking about in today's video. Both of their
staffs have come out publicly and said, stop with this
gap year. Shit, don't call it that we're trying to
compete in of course they should be saying that, right.
I mean, the Pacers just were in the Game seven
of the NBA Finals, but they lost their All NBA player,
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a guy that has been the system, and Rick car
ologe is. At a really good interview with Kaitlyn Cooper
at Basketball, she wrote, I'll put the l in the description,
go subscribe because he's one of the best in the
entire game right now. And it opened up my eyes
a lot to like, I guess, the mindset of a
legendary coach. And of course he's not looking at this
season as a gap year. He's talking about how Nimhar
is gonna have to step up, or how Benedig Mather
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has continued to evolve his game, or how Pascal Siyakam
has molded his game to be pacer centric but now
he may have to turn it back just a little
bit to get back into your bag, Pascal, because you're
missing Tyrey's Halliburn. All again, such a great interview. But
not only have they missing Tyrese. Of course, they lost
mouse turn into the Milwaukee Bucks. So even if they
believe that they're going to compete, and they believe that
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they're going to go on another deep playoff run, it's
hard for me to get there without Halliburn.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And Pacers have been a team historically that.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Just competes like this is a team that's going to
be in the playoffs every single year, regardless of the situation.
I think on the team the just went to the
NBA Finals, only one of those guys in the top
ten pick, and that was Bendedig Matherer. Like everybody else
on that team, if they were drafted by the Pacers
were a later draft pick again acquired via trade. So
it will be I don't know, foreign for them to
look at it as a gap year. That's never been
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their priorities, but I could see it being in both.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of these cases.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
The Pacers in the Celtsics case a blessing to look
at it as a gap year. Now in the Golden
State Warriors, since in twenty twenty. They didn't go into
that season thinking it was going to be a gap
year against Steph Curry broke his hand and then the
wheels fell off, and even though Steph Curry could have
played a little bit earlier, they were like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Let's retain his pick. Let's have it be a good pick.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So again, I'm not advocated for Rick Carlisle to be
pulling Pascal Siakam in a close games that they could
get a loss. But I'm thinking about what the twenty
twenty six draft class looks like in thinking if they
ended up having a lottery pick, it could potentially be
more beneficial to them versus being a playoff team and maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Lose it in the first round.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Again, never advocating for a team with this much talent
to be tanking or anything like that, but it just
crossed my mind quite a bit because like right before,
right before Tyres Haliburton tore his achilles, the Pacers acquired
their own first round pick back right. So it's a
unique circumstances where a team that was coming off in
the NBA Finals has their own draft capital. It feels
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like these teams that end up going to the NBA
Finals have traded away everything of value to build the
teams to go to the finals, but they acquired that
pick right back before tarries went down, So they kind
of hold the keys to their own destiny in the way.
Obviously the lottery balls go this way that way. You
can fall from the best odds at a fifth pick anyway, but.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
They kind of hold their own destiny.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And what we've learned over the last couple of lotteries
since that you don't necessarily have to be a fifteen
win team in order to win the lottery.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Think about the last couple teams.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I mean, the Alanta Hawks were not a team that
won twenty games, and they got rece Ichay the.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Mavericks, they were almost a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
If it was for Anthony Davis and Carie going down,
they probably would have been a playoff team. And in said,
they won the lottery. So being in the back end
of missing the playoffs again connect you a top pick. Now,
that's a lot a lot of er to even get there,
a lot a lot of variables and cross fingers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
To even win the lottery or jump up in the lottery.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But again it's something that is in my head when
it comes to the Pacers, they have the talent to
make the playoffs, especially in the Eastern Conference, but would
that be more valuable they're getting a lottery pick. I
don't know right now. I'm just I'm just spitball. I'm
just talking to you the other teams. Of course, to
Boston Celtics, who were a second a fro team, and
we knew for a very long time that they were
gonna have to make some big time adjustments to the roster.
They traded away Port Zingis, They traded away Drew Holliday.
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Our Horford is still right now a free agent, but
everybody's assuming he's gonna be a Warrior one day. Kanar
or Lou Cornett always do that. Lou Cornett is now
San Antonio spur. They just lost so many big rotational
pieces for them to you know, cut that money.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And again, very.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Similar to the Indiana patan Tyre's Halliburn, Jason Tatum is
out for the entirety of next season as far as
we know. You know, Tatum seems like he's healing like Superman,
so maybe he don't don't be out for the entire season.
But they aren't even circumstances too, where they also own
their own first round pick.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So could they do the gap year?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And again, they still have Jaylen Brown, they say have
Derek White, and they still have some of the other
pieces that helped them be the great team that they
were they won a championship a few years ago, like
Peyton Pritchard or Sam Houser or so on and so forth.
But I look at some of the moves they've done,
and of course these are money moves more than anything.
But like Chris Bousche is gonna be their starting center
next season from him and the mess Kita, one of
those guys is gonna be starting, and like playing thirty
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plus minutes a game, hoops, I have both of them
starting right, So Derick White, Anthony Simons, Jaylen Brown, Corus
Buchet and the mass Cada. I don't know exactly how
the line is gonna look, but this roster right now
is you know what I'm saying, It's a really interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's a really interesting lineup.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And again, just like the Pacers, the Celtics staff, they've
turned down all the reports that mentioned as being a
gap year.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But the talent is the talent at the end of
the day. And this is like a team.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's missed the postseason once since two thousand and eight
when they won the championship. So it's, you know, be
different for them to try to do something like this.
And you know, they've been so good and bridging the
gap without having their own draft capital, and of course
some of that and a lot of that is them
having the picks that ended up being Jason Tatum and
Jaylen Brown from other trades and so on and so forth.
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But I'm just talking to the guys about, Okay, when
Tatum comes back to this injury, let's let's assume that
he's not gonna play the season. Let's just say take
your whole time getting completely health to Jason. He's not
gonna play next season. How does this team look like
a contender again with Jason Tatum comes back and the
only way to get there, at least in my mind today,
August whatever it is, I don't know, have a decent
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pick and draft war, because as of next season, when
it comes to the people that are on their roster
right now, Chris Bouche will be a free agent and
then Efferony Simons twenty seven million be off the books.
We don't know exactly if he's a future Celtic or
just a current Celtic, but it's not as like they're
going to be able to open up a bunch of
money in order to sign somebody free agency. And the
only way you acquire the top talent that can get
you back into contention is if you trade one of
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your so top talented guys. You traded Derek White, you
traded Jaylen Brown, and so on, and I just don't
see that as a likelihood with his team now. Could
be wrong, right, They traded away Marcus Smart, a guy
that I felt like would never get traded from the Celtics,
and they traded him at the perfect time and to
maximize his value. But having a lottery pick in the
mix here, especially if it's one of the top lottery picks,
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could just again bridge the gap from the Tatum led
Celtics to again still being Tatum led, but more talent
around him, even if it is younger talent. Missoula just
got his extensions. So again, they're definitely not thinking about
this being a gap year, but it might be a
blessing in disguise if they decide to run that we
would never know, right, Like I mentioned with the Curry thing,
they didn't go into the twenty twenty nineteen twenty twenty
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season thinking that Curry is gonna break his hand knock
on wood. I don't want to see any more injuries
because we're not gonna see Tatum, Lillard, Halliburton.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Irving, Like who else am I missing?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's like four of the top most exciting players of
watching this in my mind, So I don't want to
wish no injuries, but you never really know in this association.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Also, it was just like a passing thought when it
comes to gap years.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
One team that I thought was going through a gap
year was when the Raptors were in Tampa. You remember
that arc where the Raptors had to play in Tampa
Bay because COVID restrictions, they didn't they couldn't play in Toronto,
And that felt like a gap year, and they ended
up getting Scotty Barnes and then they eventually traded the
rest of the roster. Right, there was no k Lo,
there was no Pascal, there was no so on and
so forth. But that felt like it was gearing towards
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a gap year, but it ended up being a full
tear down, so I'm struggling with trying to think of
different teams that went through gap years successfully or not successfully.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You're living in a Commons section when I'm missing because
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's gotta be more examples other than just the last
five years of Hoops
Let's talk about NBA gap years. It's been on my
mind over the last couple of hours or so, and
I feel like this upcoming season of twenty twenty five
to twenty twenty six season, there are a few teams
that are uniquely in a position to potentially have a
gap year. Now, in my mind, the way I would
define gap year in the sports census, a team that
has traditionally been good over the last few seasons that
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have to turn the dial back for one year, and
with the attempt to eventually turn that dial right back up.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It's like school, right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I was, in theory, supposed to be taking a gap
year to see if YouTube could work.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Ain't never go back.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So my gap year turned into a lifetime and some
of your favorite teams been on a lifetime gap year,
you know what I'm saying. But there are two teams
in basketball, one of them that was just in the
NBA Finals that could potentially be turning that dial back
a little bit for the future. Now, before we talk
about the gap year, I want to talk about how
you even got here.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know, it's the off season, right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
And people are going through old tweets and and you
know last year Patrick Williams signed a five year, ninety
million dollar and some bonehead on X quoted as saying
good value. W that guy didn't know what the hell
he was talking about, because comparative to the contract that
he was paid, Patrick Williams was one of the worst players.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
In basketball last season.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So I'm thinking about that, not just because I'm a
Bulls fan and I have to root for this team
and Patrick Willis. If're watching this video, trust me, I
still believe.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
These a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I was thinking about the twenty twenty draft class and
how there are a few teams that we missing in
that draft. Of course, the Bulls being at the top
of the list. When you jump up from whatever odds
they had to the top four, you needed to hit
that pick, and we did it again. The Bulls are
not one of those teams that was on the gap year.
They're just perennial league really bad. But in that same
draft class, there was a team also in the top
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four that was going through their gap year, and that
team was, of course, the Golden Say Warriors. We have
to remember what we were on the timeline the year
before this, they had just lost in the NBA finals.
Kevin Durant went over to Brooklyn, and now the Olden
State Warriors are trying to put some pieces back together. Also,
Klay Thompson of course been out with his multiple leg injuries. Right,
they go into that season, Steph Curry plays what four
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games before he breaks his hand against the Suns, and
now they're looking around like, hey, we have our own
first round pick the season. Let anybody who for us,
this is going to be our gap year. And well
they were bad, like really really bad, and they win
with fifteen games that season, and that is how they
end up with the number two overall pick. In the
midst of their gap year, they traded away some assets
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to end up getting the future first round pick. That
future first round pick turned into, of course, Jonathan Kaminga.
So during their gap year they jump up to the
second overall pick. The year after that they were better
but not as good. So the next year they have
two lottery picks again that turn into Kaminga and Moses Moody.
And because of the situation with Kaminga and we don't
know where his value is at or if he'll be
on the team next season. If he is on the team,
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who's gonna be happy, and so on and so forth.
We can just as of today, say that the three
picks they had in the twenty twenty draft class, in
the twenty twenty one draft classes, we're missing, just missus.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The gap year is.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Supposed to bridge what your previous team looked like, the
team that was a contender or the team in this
case that won multiple championships, was supposed to bridge them
to a new era where they could continue their contention.
Now and don't say words defense. Of course, they went
on to win another championship. A lot of the young
guys that we mentioned in the twenty twenty drivet class
and the twenty twenty one drivet class and none of
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a lot of those guys didn't really contribute that much
to that championship, but damn it, they won a championship,
and they continue to keep that window open. But now
we're in twenty twenty five. One of those guys is
off the team and damn it, basically out of the league.
And both of the other guys are there, but we're
questioning what their role even looks like. So you can
say that in the Warriors gap year they didn't get
full value, and again, get it full value in the
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gap year based on all the instances that I have
in my head I've been thinking about over last couple hours.
Bridging that gap has been extremely difficult for teams across
the association in recent history. You could argue that the
Philadelphia seventy six Ers just completed gap year in the
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five season where they
made a big acquisition in Paul George, he didn't play well,
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Joe Labidis in and out of the lineup, and they
ended up retaining their our first round pick.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It ended up getting VJ. Edgecomb.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Now we still have to figure out what Vj's going
to turn into as a player and figure out if
that was more of bridging the gap or starting or
turning a low leaf completely. We don't really know the
seventy six ers, but you know they were in a
similar situation and again getting back to the twenty twenty
draft class again, even though the Warriors did go on
to win more more championship, shout out to Wigginson company.
If they would have hit on one of the three
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picks that were talking about the twenty twenty and twenty
two and one draft class, we could be looking at
the Warriors a lot differently in twenty twenty five. Now
in their small stretcher they had Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry,
and Draymond Green They were pretty damn good. And Steph
Curry got injured in the postseason and we don't really
know what would.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Have happened if he stayed healthy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I find it hard to believe that, based on
what we just saw in the twenty twenty five playoffs,
that this team full of dinosaurs and their defense like
legendary dinosaur and Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler and Dremon Greenhall
are all gonna be Hall of Famers. Could that team
of dinosaurs win four series in the postseason? Like how
physical and grinded out every single game was the war
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for the OKC Thunder or every single game was for
the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's hard for me to see that old team being
able to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But that's why if you hit on twenty twenty or
twenty twenty one, these young guys us ring in and
it's like, we're cool.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Jimmy, of course you can do your thing, but I
got this. They don't really have that.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But again, let's get to now the current day, and
I'm going to start off with the Pacers. Now, the
Pacers and in the Celtics, those are the two teams
I'm really talking about in today's video. Both of their
staffs have come out publicly and said, stop with this
gap year. Shit, don't call it that we're trying to
compete in of course they should be saying that, right.
I mean, the Pacers just were in the Game seven
of the NBA Finals, but they lost their All NBA player,
(05:52):
a guy that has been the system, and Rick car
ologe is. At a really good interview with Kaitlyn Cooper
at Basketball, she wrote, I'll put the l in the description,
go subscribe because he's one of the best in the
entire game right now. And it opened up my eyes
a lot to like, I guess, the mindset of a
legendary coach. And of course he's not looking at this
season as a gap year. He's talking about how Nimhar
is gonna have to step up, or how Benedig Mather
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has continued to evolve his game, or how Pascal Siyakam
has molded his game to be pacer centric but now
he may have to turn it back just a little
bit to get back into your bag, Pascal, because you're
missing Tyrey's Halliburn. All again, such a great interview. But
not only have they missing Tyrese. Of course, they lost
mouse turn into the Milwaukee Bucks. So even if they
believe that they're going to compete, and they believe that
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they're going to go on another deep playoff run, it's
hard for me to get there without Halliburn.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And Pacers have been a team historically that.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Just competes like this is a team that's going to
be in the playoffs every single year, regardless of the situation.
I think on the team the just went to the
NBA Finals, only one of those guys in the top
ten pick, and that was Bendedig Matherer. Like everybody else
on that team, if they were drafted by the Pacers
were a later draft pick again acquired via trade. So
it will be I don't know, foreign for them to
look at it as a gap year. That's never been
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their priorities, but I could see it being in both.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of these cases.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
The Pacers in the Celtsics case a blessing to look
at it as a gap year. Now in the Golden
State Warriors, since in twenty twenty. They didn't go into
that season thinking it was going to be a gap
year against Steph Curry broke his hand and then the
wheels fell off, and even though Steph Curry could have
played a little bit earlier, they were like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Let's retain his pick. Let's have it be a good pick.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So again, I'm not advocated for Rick Carlisle to be
pulling Pascal Siakam in a close games that they could
get a loss. But I'm thinking about what the twenty
twenty six draft class looks like in thinking if they
ended up having a lottery pick, it could potentially be
more beneficial to them versus being a playoff team and maybe.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Lose it in the first round.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Again, never advocating for a team with this much talent
to be tanking or anything like that, but it just
crossed my mind quite a bit because like right before,
right before Tyres Haliburton tore his achilles, the Pacers acquired
their own first round pick back right. So it's a
unique circumstances where a team that was coming off in
the NBA Finals has their own draft capital. It feels
(08:11):
like these teams that end up going to the NBA
Finals have traded away everything of value to build the
teams to go to the finals, but they acquired that
pick right back before tarries went down, So they kind
of hold the keys to their own destiny in the way.
Obviously the lottery balls go this way that way. You
can fall from the best odds at a fifth pick anyway, but.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
They kind of hold their own destiny.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And what we've learned over the last couple of lotteries
since that you don't necessarily have to be a fifteen
win team in order to win the lottery.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Think about the last couple teams.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I mean, the Alanta Hawks were not a team that
won twenty games, and they got rece Ichay the.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Mavericks, they were almost a playoff team.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
If it was for Anthony Davis and Carie going down,
they probably would have been a playoff team. And in said,
they won the lottery. So being in the back end
of missing the playoffs again connect you a top pick. Now,
that's a lot a lot of er to even get there,
a lot a lot of variables and cross fingers.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
To even win the lottery or jump up in the lottery.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But again it's something that is in my head when
it comes to the Pacers, they have the talent to
make the playoffs, especially in the Eastern Conference, but would
that be more valuable they're getting a lottery pick. I
don't know right now. I'm just I'm just spitball. I'm
just talking to you the other teams. Of course, to
Boston Celtics, who were a second a fro team, and
we knew for a very long time that they were
gonna have to make some big time adjustments to the roster.
They traded away Port Zingis, They traded away Drew Holliday.
(09:28):
Our Horford is still right now a free agent, but
everybody's assuming he's gonna be a Warrior one day. Kanar
or Lou Cornett always do that. Lou Cornett is now
San Antonio spur. They just lost so many big rotational
pieces for them to you know, cut that money.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And again, very.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Similar to the Indiana patan Tyre's Halliburn, Jason Tatum is
out for the entirety of next season as far as
we know. You know, Tatum seems like he's healing like Superman,
so maybe he don't don't be out for the entire season.
But they aren't even circumstances too, where they also own
their own first round pick.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So could they do the gap year?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And again, they still have Jaylen Brown, they say have
Derek White, and they still have some of the other
pieces that helped them be the great team that they
were they won a championship a few years ago, like
Peyton Pritchard or Sam Houser or so on and so forth.
But I look at some of the moves they've done,
and of course these are money moves more than anything.
But like Chris Bousche is gonna be their starting center
next season from him and the mess Kita, one of
those guys is gonna be starting, and like playing thirty
(10:26):
plus minutes a game, hoops, I have both of them
starting right, So Derick White, Anthony Simons, Jaylen Brown, Corus
Buchet and the mass Cada. I don't know exactly how
the line is gonna look, but this roster right now
is you know what I'm saying, It's a really interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It's a really interesting lineup.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And again, just like the Pacers, the Celtics staff, they've
turned down all the reports that mentioned as being a
gap year.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
But the talent is the talent at the end of
the day. And this is like a team.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
That's missed the postseason once since two thousand and eight
when they won the championship. So it's, you know, be
different for them to try to do something like this.
And you know, they've been so good and bridging the
gap without having their own draft capital, and of course
some of that and a lot of that is them
having the picks that ended up being Jason Tatum and
Jaylen Brown from other trades and so on and so forth.
(11:15):
But I'm just talking to the guys about, Okay, when
Tatum comes back to this injury, let's let's assume that
he's not gonna play the season. Let's just say take
your whole time getting completely health to Jason. He's not
gonna play next season. How does this team look like
a contender again with Jason Tatum comes back and the
only way to get there, at least in my mind today,
August whatever it is, I don't know, have a decent
(11:37):
pick and draft war, because as of next season, when
it comes to the people that are on their roster
right now, Chris Bouche will be a free agent and
then Efferony Simons twenty seven million be off the books.
We don't know exactly if he's a future Celtic or
just a current Celtic, but it's not as like they're
going to be able to open up a bunch of
money in order to sign somebody free agency. And the
only way you acquire the top talent that can get
you back into contention is if you trade one of
(11:59):
your so top talented guys. You traded Derek White, you
traded Jaylen Brown, and so on, and I just don't
see that as a likelihood with his team now. Could
be wrong, right, They traded away Marcus Smart, a guy
that I felt like would never get traded from the Celtics,
and they traded him at the perfect time and to
maximize his value. But having a lottery pick in the
mix here, especially if it's one of the top lottery picks,
(12:19):
could just again bridge the gap from the Tatum led
Celtics to again still being Tatum led, but more talent
around him, even if it is younger talent. Missoula just
got his extensions. So again, they're definitely not thinking about
this being a gap year, but it might be a
blessing in disguise if they decide to run that we
would never know, right, Like I mentioned with the Curry thing,
they didn't go into the twenty twenty nineteen twenty twenty
(12:42):
season thinking that Curry is gonna break his hand knock
on wood. I don't want to see any more injuries
because we're not gonna see Tatum, Lillard, Halliburton.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Irving, Like who else am I missing?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That's like four of the top most exciting players of
watching this in my mind, So I don't want to
wish no injuries, but you never really know in this association.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Also, it was just like a passing thought when it
comes to gap years.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
One team that I thought was going through a gap
year was when the Raptors were in Tampa. You remember
that arc where the Raptors had to play in Tampa
Bay because COVID restrictions, they didn't they couldn't play in Toronto,
And that felt like a gap year, and they ended
up getting Scotty Barnes and then they eventually traded the
rest of the roster. Right, there was no k Lo,
there was no Pascal, there was no so on and
so forth. But that felt like it was gearing towards
(13:23):
a gap year, but it ended up being a full
tear down, so I'm struggling with trying to think of
different teams that went through gap years successfully or not successfully.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You're living in a Commons section when I'm missing because
Speaker 1 (13:34):
It's gotta be more examples other than just the last
five years of Hoops
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