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>> IT'S DONE, CONGRESS PASSES
THE SO CALLED "BIG BEAUTIFUL
BILL".
>> IT'S JUST A COLORFUL,
BEAUTIFUL BOUNTIFUL WAY TO COOK.
>> MEET THE EASTERN KENTUCKY
PHARMACIST PUTTING HER OWN TWIST
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ON TRADITIONAL APPALACHIAN
MEALS.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BETTER
LABORATORY TO DO AN EXPERIMENT
THE UNITED STATES THAN YOU HAVE
HERE IN KENTUCKY.
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AND WHAT YOU CAN LEARN
ABOUT AMERICA, YOU CAN LEARN BY
LEARNING ABOUT KENTUCKY.
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GOOD EVENING AND
WELCOME TO KENTUCKY EDITION, ON
THIS EVE OF INDEPENDENCE DAY, IT
IS THURSDAY JULY 3.
I'M RENEE SHAW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING
US THIS EVENING.
DONALD TRUMP'S TAX AND SPENDING
CUT BILL OFTEN CALLED THE BIG
BEAUTIFUL BILL WILL BECOME LAW.
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HOURS AGO THE HOUSE GAVE ITS
FINAL APPROVAL PASSING THE SAME
PERSIAN THAT PASSED THE U.S.
SENATE JUST A FEW DAYS AGO.
THIS IS THE BILL THAT EXTENDS
2017 TAX CUTS..... AND ALSO
REQUIRES CUTS TO MEDICAID
MEDICARE, AND FOOD STAMPS.
HERE'S WHAT TWO KENTUCKY
CONGRESSMAN HAD TO SAY... BEFORE
THE VOTE.
>> PROMISES MADE, PROMISES KEPT
FROM A PRESIDENT WHO CAMPAIGNED
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ON MAKING THE TAX CUTS AND JOBS
ACT PERMANENT, WHO CAMPAIGNED ON
PREVENTING THE LARGEST TAX
INCREASE IN AMERICAN HISTORY,
WHO CAMPAIGNED ON NO TAX FOR
TIPS, NO TAX OVERTIME, NO TAX ON
SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS.
THESE ARE PROMISES THE PRESIDENT
IS KEEPING.
AND CONGRESS NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE
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THAT 77 MILLION AMERICANS VOTED
FOR THIS AGENDA AND WE NEED TO
GET IT DONE TO MAKE SURE WE
PROVIDE THE ECONOMY THE JET FUEL
IT NEEDS TO RAISE WAGES FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> THE BILL IS A COMPLETE SLAP
IN THE FACE TO KENTUCKIANS.
YES, 35 RURAL HOSPITALS WILL
CLOSE, MORE THAN ANY OTHER
STATE.
133,000 RURAL KENTUCKIANS WILL
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BE KICKED OFF THEIR HEALTH
INSURANCE, MORE THAN ANY OTHER
STATE.
KENTUCKY WILL LOSE $10 BILLION
IN RURAL MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENTS
MORE THAN ANY OTHER STATE.
I SERVED IN THE KENTUCKY STATE
SENATE FOR 10 YEARS BEFORE
COMING TO CONGRESS.
WE GET MORE MONEY AS A STATE IN
FEDERAL MEDICAID DOLLARS THAN
THE ENTIRETY OF THE KENTUCKY
STATE BUDGET CONGRESSMAN MORGAN
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MCGARVEY, KENTUCKY'S ONLY
CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRAT VOTED
AGAINST IT.
SO DID REPUBLICAN THOMAS MASSIE,
WHO SAYS THE CUTS DON'T GO FAR
ENOUGH.
KENTUCKY'S OTHER HOUSE
REPUBLICANS VOTED YES.
SO NOW THE THAT THE BIG
BEAUTIFUL BILL HAS PASSED, WE'LL
DISCUSS THE MEDICAID PORTIONS OF
THE BILL AND HOW KENTUCKIANS
COULD BE AFFECTED BY THE CHANGES
TO THE SYSTEM.
THAT'S COMING UP MONDAY NIGHT ON
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"KENTUCKY TONIGHT "WE HOPE WILL
YOU JOIN US FOR THAT AND SEND US
YOUR QUESTIONS.
AGAIN MONDAY AT 8 EASTERN, 7
CENTRAL HERE ON KET.
THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT A NEW
STATE LAW COVERING COMMUNICATION
BETWEEN TEACHERS AND STUDENTS.
AND THE STATE SENATOR WHO
SPONSORED THE BILL IS RESPONDING
SENATOR LINDSAY TITCH TICHENOR
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WROTE AN OP-ED ABOUT SENATE BILL
118 THAT REQUIRES ALL ONLINE
CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN TEACHERS
AND STUDENTS TO BE TRACEABLE,
MEANING IT COULD NOT TAKE PLACE
OVER SOCIAL MEDIA OR TEXT.
THE CURRENT LAW ONLY PROVIDES
EXCEPTIONS FOR PARENTS,
SIBLINGS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS
AND UNCLES.
SOME TEACHERS HAVE RAISED
CONCERNS ABOUT THE LAW ASKING IF
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FAMILY MEMBERS LIKE STEP PARENTS
WOULD BE EXEMPT.
SENATE BILL 181 INCLUDED A
PROVISION WHERE PARENTS COULD
SIGN A WAIVER TO ALLOW TEACHERS
TO CONTACT THEIR CHILDREN
THROUGH A NON-DISTRICT APPROVED
METHOD.
BUT THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO HONOR
THAT PARENTAL CONSENT.
MORE THAN 130 CASES OF EDUCATOR
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SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WERE REPORTED
LAST YEAR AND SENATOR TICHENOR'S
OP-ED, SHE EMPHASIZED THE BILL
WAS PASSED 50*U8SLY IN THE 2025
LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
THE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER WROTE
"DESPITE PASSING WITH NO
OPPOSITION, I HAVE SINCE HEARD
FROM EDUCATION LEADERS ON NEEDED
CLARIFICATION.
I'M COMMITTED TO REFINING THE
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LANGUAGE WHILE ENSURING THE LAW
PROTECTS STUDENTS AND UPHELDS
THE INTEGRITY OF KENTUCKY'S
EDUCATION SYSTEM."
REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN THE STATE
SENATE WERE ASKED ABOUT THE NEW
LAW DURING A PRESS CONFERENCE
LAST WEEK.
HERE WHAT IS MAJORITY FLOOR
LEADER MAX WIDES HAD TO SAY BRT
CONCERNS.
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>> THE INTENT OF THE BILL, HAVE
I NOT HEARD ANYONE QUESTION THE
INTENT OF THE BILL IN AND OF
ITSELF.
WE ALSO KNOW THIS.
WITH ANY PIECE OF LEGISLATION,
THERE IS NOT A PERFECT PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT LEAVES THESE
CHAMBERS.
THAT'S WHY WE WOULD COME BACK
AND COME BACK AND EASILY DO ANY
CLEANUP THAT COULD BE THERE WHEN
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THE BILL CAME FORWARD FROM THE
FAMILIES COMMITTEE, WE DIDN'T
HAVE MUCH OPPOSITION, AND THE
GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL INTO
LAW.
IF THERE IS INFORMATION OUT
THERE SWIRL, WE WILL MAKE SURE
TO HANDLE THAT GOING INTO
JANUARY.
SENATOR WISE SAID THEY
WILL WORK WITH SCHOOL BOARDS TO
MAKE SURE THE LAW IS IMPLEMENTED
CORRECTLY.
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A NEW HEALTH ALERT OUT TONIGHT,
AS SALMONELLA OUTBREAK HAS BEEN
CONFIRMED IN CENTRAL KENTUCKY.
MORE IN TONIGHT'S MEDICAL NEWS.
THE LEXINGTON COUNTY HEALTH
DEPARTMENT SAYS THERE ARE AT
LEAST 10 CONFIRMED CASES OF
SALMONELLA.
FOUR PATIENTS ARE IN FAYETTE
COUNTY, TWO ARE IN JESSAMINE AND
MERCER COUNTIES, ONE IS IN
FLEMING COUNTY AND ONE PERSON
LIVES IN A DIFFERENT STATE.
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ALL 10 PATIENTS ATE THE SAME
THING, DESSERT FROM RAMSEY'S
DINER.
THE EXPOSURE OCCURRED BETWEEN
JUNE 17 AND THE 20th.
RAMSEY'S AND MISSY'S PIES, WHICH
MAKES DESSERTS FOR RAMSEY'S HAVE
SINCE REPLACED ALL PRODUCTS THAT
COULD POSSIBLY BE CONTAMINATED
WITH SALMONELLA AND ARE ALLOWED
TO KEEP MAKING PIES THAT DON'T
REQUIRE EGGS.
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THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYS IT'S
TRACED THE EGGS SUPPLIED TO
MISSY'S PIES TO A PARTICULAR
FARM AND THAT FURTHER TESTING IS
ONGOING.
THEY ALSO SAY THIS TYPE OF
OUTBREAK IS RARE.
>> I DON'T RECALL ONE THIS LARGE
BEING TIED TO ANYTHING THROUGH A
RESTAURANT.
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IT MOSTLY, WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE
SCALE FOODBORNE ILLNESS
OUTBREAK, IT'S MORE LIKE A
NOROVIRUS WHICH CONCLUDES
QUICKLY, MORE QUICKLY THAN
SALMONELLA INFECTION.
PEOPLE RARELY GET TESTED FOR
THOSE SO IT'S HARDER TO NAIL
DOWN THE CAUSE OF THE ILLNESS.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE PERSON,
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PLACE, TIME, AND EXPOSURE AND
NUMEROUS PEOPLE EXPOSED HAVE
WITH THE SAME, IT POINTS TO AN
INFECTION.
THE LAST THING I RECALL WAS AT A
FOOD COURT AND SOMEONE CAME TO
WORK SICK.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER ANGLE THAT WE
ARE LOOKING AT.
WAS ANYBODY SICK?
THAT'S ANOTHER COMMON QUESTION
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YOU ASK.
YOU THINK IMMEDIATELY ABOUT THE
INGREDIENTS BUT IF SOMEBODY IS
SICK, YOU KNOW, THEN WE HAVE TO
LOOK INTO THAT, TOO.
AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVEN'T
FOUND THAT TO BE THE CASE.
SYMPTOMS OF SALMONELLA
INCLUDE DIARRHEA, FEVER,
ABDOMINAL CRAMPS AND VOMITING.
IF YOU ATE AT RAMSEY'S OR
MISSY'S PIE FROM JUNE 17-THE 20
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AND DEVELOPED ANY OF THE
SYMPTOMS, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT
ENCOURAGES YOU TO REACH OUT TO
THEM.
THE STATE IS SEEING AN INCREASE
IN THE NUMBER OF YOUNG DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE PERPETRATORS, ACCORDING
TO A NEW STATE REPORT.
STATE LAWMAKERS PASSED
LEGISLATION IN 2022 REQUIRING
THE COLLECTION OF DATA RELATED
TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THE
STATE.
THAT INCLUDES DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
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ARRESTS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SHELTER USE AND REPORTS OF CHILD
ABUSE.
ACCORDING TO THE 2024 KENTUCKY
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE REPORT, THERE
WERE MORE THAN 32,000 FORMS,
REFERRED TO AS JC-3s FILED FOR
DOMESTIC OR DATING VIOLENCE.
ALMOST 8,000 ARRESTS INVOLVING
DOMESTIC OR DATING VIOLENCE AND
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ABUSE.
AND MORE THAN 15,000 PEOPLE
RECEIVED SERVICES FROM ZERO-V,
THE STATE'S COALITION OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAMS.
ZERO-V ALONG WITH THE KENTUCKY
STATE POLICE, THE CABINET FOR
HEALTH AND FAMILY SERVICES AND
THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OF THE
COURTS ALL PROVIDED DATA FOR THE
REPORT.
WE SPOKE WITH OLIVIA SPRADLIN, A
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POLICY EXPERT WITH ZERO HV ABOUT
THE REPORT AND THE STATISTIC
THAT STOOD OUT MOST TO HER
AGENCY.
>> WE ARE SEEING ARRESTS AROUND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND DATING
VIOLENCE THAT ARE OCCURRING
WITHIN JC HAD THE 3, JUST OVER
9% OF THE POPULATION IS BETWEEN
THE AGES AND 13 AND 17 WHEN WE
THINK ABOUT CHILDREN AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WE OFTEN
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THINK ABOUT CHILDREN AS
WITNESSES TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
AND NOT NECESSARILY CHILDREN AS
COMMITTING IT.
SO THAT NUMBER, TO US, WAS
SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WOULD
WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT IS
OCCURRING THERE, WHAT IS
HAPPENING THERE.
AND ALSO WHAT ARE WAYS THAT WE
CAN PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING?
EVEN ONE INSTANCE OF DOMESTIC
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VIOLENCE IS TOO MUCH.
SO REALLY ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN
TERMS OF PREVENTION WOULD BE
REALLY GREAT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
HAS BEEN NOT GOTTEN MAYBE THE
SAME AMOUNT OF ATTENTION AND
INVESTMENT AS SOME OF THE
SERVICES HAVE.
SO I THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT
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WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE MORE
ATTENTION AROUND AND MORE
INVESTMENT IN.
YOU KNOW, ANY TIME WE CAN STOP
SOMEONE FROM BECOMING A SURVIVOR
OR STOP SOMEONE FROM BECOMING A
PERPETRATOR, I THINK THAT IS
WORTH DOING.
THINKING ABOUT NOT JUST RISK
FACTORS BUT ALSO PROTECTIVE
FACTORS, IS A REALLY GREAT WAY
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TO REFRAME THAT.
AND SO HOW CAN WE CREATE HEALTHY
ENVIRONMENTS AND HEALTHY
RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT ARE THOSE
THINGS THAT INDIVIDUAL, SOCIETAL
COMMUNITY LEVELS THAT WE CAN
SUPPORT?
AGAIN, FOR THOSE PROTECTIVE
FACTORS.
THE LEGISLATORS AND THE STATE
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AGENCIES THAT HAVE PUT THEIR
TIME AND ENERGY AND EFFORT INTO
THE REPORT, AND FOR THEIR
PARTNERSHIP ON IT, I THINK IT'S
HOPEFUL THAT SO MANY AGENCIES
ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS ISSUE OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?
AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S A
REALLY COMPLEX ISSUE AND THERE
IS NOT ONE SOLUTION TO IT.
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I DO THINK, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO
THE HIGH NUMBERS OF CHILDREN
BEING IN THIS, BOTH IN TERMS OF
COMING INTO SHELTERS, OF
RECEIVING OUR SERVICES, AND ALSO
OF CHILDREN WHO ARE SHOWING UP
IN THE JC-3 TABLE AS
PERPETRATING IT, THAT THAT FOCUS
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ON PREVENTION WOULD BE A VERY
WORTH WHILE INVESTMENT.
>> ZERO-V SAID IT RECEIVED MORE
THAN 23,000 CALLS TO ITS
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOT LINE LAST
YEAR.
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WE KNOW YOU ARE READY
FOR IT.
TOMORROW IS JULY 4 AND MANY WILL
BE GATHERING WITH FAMILY TO
CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY.
THE TIME TOGETHER COULD PROVIDE
A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK ON
OLDER RELATIVES TO SEE IF
THEY'RE EXPERIENCING ANY CHANGES
IN THEIR COGNITIVE HEALTH.
MORE ON WHAT TO LOOK OUT FOR IN
TONIGHT'S HEALTH NEWS.
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>> THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY
7 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE U.S.
WITH ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE RIGHT
NOW AND THAT'S GOING TO DOUBLE
IN THE COMING YEARS.
WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT AND
PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT.
WE WANT TO LOOK FOR ANY CHANGES
FIRST OF ALL.
AND, YES, WE MIGHT WANT TO SEE
CHANGES IN MEMORY ITSELF.
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ARE MY PARENTS MORE FORGETFUL?
ARE THEY REPEATING THEMSELVES
MORE OFTEN?
BUT ALSO LOOK FOR CHANGES IN
THEIR BEHAVIOR.
ARE THEY KEEPING HOUSE LIKE THEY
USED TO?
ARE THEY TAKING CARE OF
THEMSELVES LIKE THEY USED TO?
ARE THEY MORE DISHEVELED.
LOOK IN THE REFRIGERATOR.
IS IT FULL OF SPOILED FOOD.
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IS MAIL STACKING UP?
ARE THEY FORGETTING TO PAY THEIR
BILLS?
ANOTHER ONE, ARE THEY BECOMING
MORE ISOLATED OR DISENGAGED.
IF WE SEE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES
IN BEHAVIOR, THERE COULD BE MANY
CAUSES FOR THAT BUT THAT SHOULD
CONCERN US AND AT THE VERY
LEAST, GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS IT AND MAYBE ENCOURAGE
THEM TO TALK WITH THEIR PRIMARY
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DARE-- PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER.
IDEALLY I WOULD TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, I MAY SEE
SOME CHANGES THAT WORRY ME HERE.
AND LET'S BE PROACTIVE.
MAYBE THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT
MAYBE IT'S NOTHING AT ALL.
BUT LET'S BE PROACTIVE.
LET'S TALK TO YOUR PRIMARY
DOCTOR.
IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS, MAYBE
THEY'LL REFER YOU TO A
SPECIALIST.
AND MAYBE EVEN LOOK AT IT FROM A
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PREVENTATIVE STANDPOINT.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE
DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE, OF
COURSE.
AND DIFFERENT BASED ON OUR
RELATIONSHIP AND HOW OUR LOVED
ONES RESPOND.
AS NEW TREATMENTS COME ONLINE,
AND WE NOW HAVE WAYS TO ACTUALLY
SLOW THE PROGRESSION OF THIS
DISEASE, WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE
PAY MORE ATTENTION TO IT, SEE
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THE VALUE OF BEING EVALUATED.
SEE THE VALUE OF COMING IN EARLY
TO SEE IF THEY'RE CANDIDATES FOR
THESE TREATMENTS.
I HAVE BEEN IN THIS FIELD FOR A
LONG TIME, WAITING FOR A
TREATMENT THAT FINALLY STARTS TO
ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING CAUSES OF
A CONDITION LIKE ALZHEIMER'S
DISEASE.
WE HOPE IT'S THE FIRST STEP OF
MANY TO WHERE WE CAN REALLY EVEN
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MORE EFFECTIVELY TREAT THIS
CONDITION.
SO I THINK IT GIVES US HOPE.
AND IT'S THAT FIRST STEP TO
REALLY STARTING TO MAKE MAJOR
IMPACTS ON THESE DISEASES.
GOOD INFORMATION
THERE.
AS A VEGAN LIVING IN EASTERN
KENTUCKY, JAN BRANDENBURG HAS A
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LOT OF EXPERIENCE CONVERTING HER
FAVORITE APPALACHIAN COMFORT
FOODS INTO PLANT-BASED OPTIONS.
NOW SHE HAS TAKEN THOSE RECIPES
AND PUBLISHED HER OWN COOKBOOK
CALLED "THE MODERN MOUNTAIN
COOKBOOK" WITH OVER 130
PLANT-BASED RECIPES.
>> AS A LONG TIME VEGAN NATIVE
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APRIL APPALACHIAN, JAN
BRANDENBURG CREATES FAVORITE
VERSIONS OF HER RECIPES.
THEY'RE ALL WRITTEN DOWN IN THE
MODERN MOUNTAIN COOKBOOK, A
CELEBRATION OF APPALACHIA.
>> IT IS TRADITIONAL APPALACHIAN
RECIPES, THE FOODSES I GREW UP
EATING MY WHOLE LIFE ADAPTED
INTO VEGAN FOODS.
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IT'S A COLORFUL, BEAUTIFUL
BOUNTIFUL WAY TO COOK.
>> HER LOVE OF COOKING BEGAN IN
CHILDHOOD WITH HER FIRST EASY
BAKE OVEN.
>> BECAUSE AS SOON AS I GOT
THAT, IT WAS LIKE MAGIC.
>> AND WATCHING HER FAMILY RUN
TWO RESTAURANTS IN PULASKI
COUNTY.
>> I GREW UP IN THOSE KITCHENS
AND MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD MAKE
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LIKE 10 TO 12 PIES EVERY
SATURDAY MORNING TO SELL AT
THOSE TWO RESTAURANTS.
IT HELPED MY DRIVE TO COOK, YOU
KNOW.
IT WAS JUST KIND OF WHAT WE DID,
AND I THINK ABOUT THAT
SOMETIMES, TOO, LIKE THAT IS THE
MUSIC THAT CONTINUALLY PLAYS IN
MY HEAD.
>> BRANDEN BERG'S COOKBOOK
SHARES STORIES OF HER LIFE IN
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APPALACHIA AND TRANSFORMS
TRADITIONAL MOUNTAIN RECIPES
WITH ALTERNATIVES.
>> SOME OF MY FAVORITE RECIPES
ARE SHEPHERD'S PIE.
I LOVE THAT ONE.
WE CALLED IT DEEP DISH HAMBURGER
PIE BUT I MAKE IT AS A
SHEPHERD'S PIE USING EITHER A
MEAT SUBSTITUTE OR LENTILS AS
THE BASE AND I COOK VERY
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SEASONALLY, TOO.
I LIKE-- PEACH 350E67S ARE
REALLY GREAT RIGHT NOW SO I HAVE
A LOT OF PEACHES FOR PEACH
CRISP.
IF PEOPLE ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT
GET SOMETHING WEIRD IF THEY'RE
GETTING VEGAN FOOD, I ALWAYS
THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD ONE
TO HAVE BECAUSE IT FEELS VERY
FAMILIAR.
>> Reporter (16:35):
FROM SPAGHETTI TO
CORN BREAD TO CHOCOLATE CHIP
COOKIES.
TRADITIONAL TASTES OF THE
MOUNTAINS ARE IN THIS COOKBOOK
AND THE PLANT BASED INGREDIENTS
PROVIDE EXTRA HEALTH BENEFIT TO
THE DISHES.
>> YOU CAN SAY THIS IS
CHOLESTEROL FREE SO FOR PEOPLE
WHO, YOU KNOW, MOST OF US, EVEN
IF WE ARE NOT VEGETARIAN OR
VEGAN HAVE GOT PEOPLE IN OUR
FAMILY WITH DIETARY RESTRICTIONS
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SO THIS IS JUST AN EXCELLENT
RESOURCE FOR ACCOMMODATING THEM,
YOU KNOW, NOTHING IN THE BOOK
CONTAINS ANY CHOLESTEROL.
AND THAT'S JUST REALLY
BENEFICIAL TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
>> BRANDENBURG IS NOT A
PROFESSIONAL CHEF.
SHE IS A PHARMACIST BY TRADE AND
CURRENTLY WORKS IN A LOCAL
HOSPITAL.
SHE SAYS IN ADDITION TO ALL THE
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MEASURING THAT THEY HAVE IN
COMMON, PHARMACY AND COOKING
BOTH PROVIDE A LEVEL OF HUMAN
CONNECTION.
>> I THINK IT IS SERVING OTHERS,
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TAKE TIME
WITH SOMEBODY AT THE PHARMACY
COUNTY, YOU ARE SERVING THEM.
THEY FEEL IMPORTANT.
WHEN YOU COOK FOR PEOPLE, THEY
FEEL IMPORTANT.
THEY FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING.
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>> BRANDENBURG SAID ONE OF THE
FAVORITE PARTS OF CREATING THE
COOKBOOK WAS LEARNING THE
HISTORY SOME SOME OF OF THESE
TRADITIONS.
>> THANK YOU, BRAND THANBURG
SAID THE MAJORITY OF HER FAMILY
IS NOT VEGAN SO SHE ENCOURAGES
YOU TO NOT BE AFRAID TO SERVE
PLANT-BASED MEALS BECAUSE IN HER
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EXPERIENCE "IF THE FOOD TASTES
GOOD, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS."
FOR MANY AMERICANS, THE FOURTH
OF JULY WILL BE FILLED WITH
PARADES, FIREWORKS AND BACKYARD
BARBECUES.
TOBY GIBBS HAS MORE ON WHAT
HAPPENED ON JULY 4, 1776 THAT
LED TO THE BIRTH OF OUR COUNTRY.
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>> THE STORY BEGINS WELL BEFORE
1776.
TENSIONS HAD BEEN BUILDING
BETWEEN THE 13 COLONIES AND THE
MOTHER COUNTRY, GREAT BRITAIN
FOR MORE THAN A DECADE ACCORDING
TO CAROL EASTERLY OF THE
KENTUCKY HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
>> REALLY THE MAIN RALLYING CRY
WAS NO TAXATION WITHOUT
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REPRESENTATION.
THE COL COLONISTS DID NOT HAVE
REPRESENTATION IN THE PARLIAMENT
AND THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT PILED
ON MORE AND MORE TAXES AND THEY
REALLY FELT THAT THAT WAS
UNFAIR.
AND THAT HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR A
WHILE, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE
1760S.
>> GROWING MOVEMENT PUSHED FOR
INDEPENDENCE FROM BRITAIN, WAR
BEGAN IN 1775 ALTHOUGH NOT ALL
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COLONISTS SUPPORTED THE
REVOLUTION.
THERE WERE THOSE LOYAL TO
BRITAIN AND HOPED RECONCILIATION
WAS STILL POSSIBLE.
>> I HAVE READ THAT HISTORIANS
ESTIMATE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15,
20, MAYBE 30% OF COLONISTS WERE
LOYAL TO THE BRITISH CROWN.
SOME OF THEM FLED.
SOME FLED TO CANADA WHERE THEY
WERE RECEIVED AND GIVEN ASYLUM
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IN CANADA.
SOME DID TAKE UP ARMS WITH THE
BRITISH ARMY.
THERE WAS SORT OF A GENERAL
UPRISING OF LOYALISTS AND OTHERS
JUST TRIED TO KIND OF STAY OUT
OF THE FRAY BUT THEY WOULD NOT
JOIN THE COLONISTS IN THEIR
FIGHT AGAINST THE BRITISH
GOVERNMENT.
>> IN MAY OF 1776, ALMOST TWO
MONTHS BEFORE THE DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE, THE CONTINENTAL
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CONGRESS PASSED A RESOLUTION,
URGING THE COLONIES TO BREAK
AWAY FROM BRITAIN AND FORM THEIR
OWN GOVERNMENTS.
MASSACHUSETTS DELEGATE JOHN
ADAMS WROTE THE PREAMBLE TO THAT
RESOLUTION AND ALWAYS BELIEVED
THAT PREAMBLE WAS THE TRUE
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.
>> NOW ADAMS' EGO AND RIVALRY
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WITH JEFFERSON MIGHT HAVE HAD
SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS ONGOING
INSISTENCE.
>> IN A SENSE, JULY 14 IS NOT
INDEPENDENCE DAY.
THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS MET
JULY 1, AND THEN JULY 2, 12 OF
THE 13 COLONIES VOTED FOR THE
MOTION FOR INDEPENDENCE.
DELEGATES SPENT THE NEXT TWO
DAYS REVISING THE DOCUMENT
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ANNOUNCING AND EXPLAINING THE
DECISION TO BREAK AWAY FROM
BRITAIN, A DOCUMENT ALREADY
BEING WORKED ON BY VIRGINIA
DELEGATE THOMAS JEFFERSON.
THEN ON JULY 4, THE CONTINENTAL
CONGRESS ADOPTED THE DOCUMENT,
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.
WITH LATE 18th CENTURY
TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNICATION
SLOW, IT TOOK DAYS, EVEN WEEKS
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FOR WORD TO SPREAD THROUGHOUT
THE COLONIES AND TERRITORIES
BEYOND, INCLUDING KENTUCKY.
>> IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL
WEEKS AT LEAST FOR NEWS FROM THE
EASTERN COLONIES TO REACH
KENTUCKY, THESE FRONTIER
SETTLEMENTS WERE STILL VERY
REMOTE.
KENTUCKY AT THIS POINT WAS STILL
PART OF VIRGINIA.
THE COLONY OF VIRGINIA.
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IN 1776, IT BECAME A SEPARATE
COUNTY AND THAT WAS FOR THE
PURPOSE OF DEFENSE.
>> THE DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE AND ITS FAMOUS
PHRASES ALL MEN ARE CREATED
EQUAL AND LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE
PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS HAVE
INSPIRED AMERICANS FOR 246 YEARS
AND PEOPLE SEEKING FREEDOM IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE WORD.
CAROL EASTERLY SAYS THE
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DECLARATION'S MESSAGE CAN STILL
INSPIRE UNITY TODAY.
>> I THINK WE ARE LIVING THROUGH
VERY POLARIZED MOMENT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THE IDEALS THAT ARE
EXPRESSED IN THE DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE, IS SOMETHING THAT
ALL AMERICANS CAN GET BEHIND.
NOW CERTAINLY THEY'RE VERY HIGH
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IDEALS AND ONES WE HAVE NEVER
PERFECTLY LIVED UP TO AS A
COUNTRY BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE
DON'T CONTINUE TO TRY TO LIVE
MORE FULLY INTO THEM AND GROW
INTO THEM AND WE HAVE HAD
ACTIVISTS AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN
OUR HISTORY WHO HAVE CALLED US
OUT AND CALLED US TO BE WHO WE
SAY WE WANT TO BE IN THE
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENTS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S KIND OF A
BEACON FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, A
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GOAL TO KIND OF CONTINUE GROWING
TOWARD AS A COUNTRY.
>> FOR KET, I'M TOBY GIBBS.
>> Renee (22:13):
THANK YOU, TOBY GIBBS.
AS AMERICANS GET READY TO
OBSERVE THE FOURTH, IT'S A GOOD
TIME TO THINK ABOUT KENTUCKY
HISTORY AND THE ROLE KENTUCKY
PLAYED IN THE BIRTH AND GROWTH
OF THE U.S.
MONDAY NIGHT'S "KENTUCKY
TONIGHT" WE TALKED ABOUT
KENTUCKY'S HISTORY AND THE VALUE
OF STUDYING OUR STATE TO BETTER
APPRECIATE OUR NATION.
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>> WE CAN TALK ABOUT A LARGER
NATIONAL STORY, BUT MAKING SURE
WE, AS PARTICULARLY AS KENTUCKY
HISTORIANS, THE LOCAL AND THE
STATE IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I
THINK SOMETIMES THAT IS, YOU
KNOW, DISCOUNTED MAYBE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO DIVE INTO SOME OF THESE
STORIES AND EXPLORE SOME OF
THESE LESSER KNOWN FIGURES AND
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TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT
OF PERSPECTIVE ON A VARIETY OF
ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON TODAY.
EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW,
RESISTANCE AND CHANGE AND
IMMIGRATION, YOU KNOW, TO
MEDICAL HISTORY, YOU KNOW, FOR
US TO BE A VOICE, IF YOU WILL,
TO GIVE SOME SORT OF GUIDELINE.
WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD
BEFORE.
WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM IT OR
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WHAT SHOULD WE LEARN FROM IT?
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS
VERY IMPORTANT.
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S
EXACTLY RIGHT.
AS WE TALK ABOUT INDIGENOUS
HISTORY OF OUR REGION, AT THE
FILSON, WE TALK ABOUT THE WAYS,
YOU KNOW, HERE AT THIS
INTERSECTION OF RIVERS, THE
MISSISSIPPI, THE OHIO AND THE
MISSOURI, WE ARE AT THE BULL'S
EYE.
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ALL OF THE TEUTONIC PLATES IN
AMERICA ARE RIGHT HERE.
AND PLAT PLAYS OUT FROM NATIVE
POLITICS AND INTERTRIBAL AND
RELIGIOUS AND LINGUISTIC GROUPS
GOING BACK TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
YEARS AND CONTINUES TO BE THE
CASE OF AMERICAN POLITICS EVEN
UP TO TODAY.
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I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT PIGGY
BACKING ON SOME OF THE IDEAS
THAT WE HAVE ROLLED OUT HERE, IN
THE PAST FEW MINUTES, IF YOU USE
THE ANALOGY OF HISTORY AS A
SCIENCE-- I TEND TO THINK IT'S
MORE OF AN ART BUT IF YOU THINK
OF IT AS A SOCIAL SCIENCE, YOU
DON'T HAVE ANY BETTER LABORATORY
TO DO AN EXPERIMENT ON THE
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UNITED STATES THAN YOU HAVE HERE
IN KENTUCKY.
WE HAVE ALL THE ELEMENTS.
YOU CAN TELL ANY STORY THAT IS
NATIONALLY RELEVANT RIGHT HERE
WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE
NAH HERE.
HOWEVER, THAT MEANS GETTING BACK
TO Dr. LANG'S POINT, WE HAVE
TO BE SO FOCUSED ON OUR LOCAL
STORIES AND OUR LOCAL FLEWANCES
AND-- NUANCES AND VARIATIONS AND
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QUIRKS THAT SET US APART BECAUSE
THOSE ARE VALUABLE FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO FEED INTO THIS GREAT
EQUATION, TO UNDERSTAND
OURSELVES, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY
CAN UNDERSTAND THEMSELVES
THROUGH KENTUCKY NATIONALLY.
>> Dr. HOLTON, YOU MADE AN
INTERESTING COMMENT TO ME ABOUT
HOW KENTUCKY HAD NEVER BEEN A
VERY NEAT AND TIDY SORT OF PLACE
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BUT YOU SEE THAT AS A STRENGTH.
WHY IS THAT?
>> YEAH, OF COURSE.
ON THE LICENSE PLATES FOR A LONG
TIME IT SAID UNBRIDLED SPIRIT
AND THAT'S THE THEME OF A NUMBER
OF STORIES WE HAVE COVERED
TONIGHT EVEN.
YEAH, IT'S NOT A NEAT AND TIDY
SORT OF PLACE.
COUNTY TO COUNTY, THERE ARE
DIFFERENCES.
SOME SUBTLE, SOME LARGER.
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IT'S ALSO A SPACE THAT PEOPLE
LEFT.
THERE IS A KENTUCKY DIASPORA,
THERE ARE KENTUCKIANS IN
DETROIT, THERE ARE KENTUCKIANS
IN THE GOLD FIELDS OF
CALIFORNIA.
KENTUCKIANS WHO BECOME
PRESIDENTS OF LIBERIA IN WEST
AFRICA.
IT'S ALSO A STATE THAT PEOPLE
COME TO IN THAT INDUSTRIAL ERA.
AFRICAN-AMERICANS LEAVE THE
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DEEPER SOUTH FOR INDUSTRIAL
CENTERS AND SOME OF THE CENTERS
ARE PLACES LIKE LOUISVILLE OR
EVEN OUT IN THE COAL CAMPS.
AND IT'S NOT A MONOLITHIC PLACE.
WE HAVE HAD INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM GERMAN
IMMIGRANTS, IRISH IMMIGRANTS,
JEWISH IMMIGRANTS, INCREDIBLY
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IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE
PRESENT FROM VARIOUS REFUGEES
WHO HAVE BEEN RESETTLED HERE.
AND SO KENTUCKY IS NOT NEAT AND
TIDY BUT THE OTHER WORD FOR IT
IS DYNAMIC, A CHANGING PLACE
WHERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND HAVING ALL THESE DIFFERENT
SORTS OF FOLKS HERE, VARIOUS
REGIONS WITHIN A STATE, IS A
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STRENGTH, I THINK.
IT WAS A VERY
INTERESTING DISCUSSION ABOUT
MANY ASPECTS OF KENTUCKY'S
HISTORY AND HOW OUR PAST SHAPES
THE PRESENT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT HOUR LONG
CONVERSATION ONLINE ON DEMAND
AT ket.org/KYTONIGHT KEEPING
WITH OUR HISTORY THEME, YOU CAN
LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT KENTUCKY
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WITHOUT EVEN HAVING TO LEAVE
YOUR CAR.
THANKS TO KENTUCKY'S 2400 STATE
HISTORIC MARKERS.
>> I ONLY HAVE ABOUT 125 WORDS
THAT I CAN FIT ON A STATE
HISTORICAL MARKER.
SO I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, IT'S
NOT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S THE BEGINNING.
AND IF IT INSPIRES YOU TO GO AND
READ A LITTLE BIT MORE ON YOUR
OWN, THAT'S GREAT.
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MORE ON THE MARKERS
AND WHAT IS BEING HONORED
TOMORROW ON A SPECIAL FOURTH OF
JULY KENTUCKY EDITION, WHICH WE
HOPE WILL YOU JOIN US FOR AT
6:30 EASTERN, 5:30 CENTRAL WHEN
WE INFORM, CONNECT AND INSPIRE.
I'M RENEE SHAW AND WE'LL SEE YOU
TOMORROW NIGHT.
TAKE GOOD CARE.