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June 16, 2025 27 mins
Sen. Rand Paul talks about ongoing protests in Los Angeles and budget negotiations, the U.S. House votes to cut funding for U.S. AID and CPB, a soldier dies in a helicopter incident at Fort Campbell, and Congressman Comer's committee presses Democratic governors about so-called sanctuary city policies.
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(00:02):
[♪♪]
>> IT'S HARD TO HAVE A LOT OF
SYMPATHY FOR THESE PEOPLE.
LOOK WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT
COUNTRY YOU CAME TO OUR COUNTRY
AND YOU ARE MARCHING IN THE
STREETS WITH ANOTHER COUNTRY'S
FLAG.
>> A CONVERSATION WITH U.S.
SENATOR RAND PAUL OF KENTUCKY ON

(00:22):
MILITARY INTERVENTION IN LA AND
WHAT IS HOLDING UP HIS SUPPORT
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP'S BUDGET
BILL?
>> I THINK WE WOULD SEE A
DIFFERENT NORTHERN KENTUCKY WITH
RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT JAMES
TALYOR.

>> Kelsey (00:39):
WE'LL TAKE A TRIP
BACK IN TIME TO EXPLORE THE
FOUNDING OF NORTHERN KENTUCKY.
>> AND HE GIVES UP A ROCKET DOWN
THE RIGHT-FIELD LINE.
AND THAT'S NOT A
MAJOR LEAGUE BALL PLAYER THAT IS
A KENTUCKY CONGRESSMAN.
>> PRODUCTION OF "KENTUCKY
EDITION" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN
PART BY THE KET MILLENNIUM FUND.

(01:05):
[♪♪]
GOOD EVENING AND
WELCOME TO "KENTUCKY EDITION"
FOR THIS THURSDAY JUNE 12TH I'M
KELSEY STARKS FILLING IN FOR
RENEE SHAW.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S USE OF
MILITARY FORCES TO SUPPORT I AM

(01:27):
GRAGHTS RAIDS IN LOS ANGELES IS
NOW BEING CHALLENGED IN FEDERAL
COURT.
WE ARE HEARING FROM SENATOR RAND
PAUL ABOUT THAT PLUS THOSE
ONGOING BUDGET TALKS.
LAURA ROGERS SPOKE WITH SENATOR
PAUL THIS MORNING.
>> SENATOR PAUL WE THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TILE TODAY.
WANT TO BEGIN WITH THE SITUATION
IN LOS ANGELES AND PRESIDENT
TRUMP DEPLOYING THE CALIFORNIA

(01:48):
NATIONAL GUARD, THE U.S. MARINES
TO RESPOND TO THE RESISTANCE
AGAINST IMMIGRATION CRACKDOWN
THERE.
DO YOU AGREE WITH HIS DECISION
TO DO THAT?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE
THE IMAGES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
COME TO OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY
HOLDING MEXICAN FLAGS ANOTHER
NATION BURNING VEHICLES,
PROHIBITING THE FEDERAL OFFICERS

(02:09):
FROM CHECKING FOR PEOPLE WHO
COMMITTED CRIMES WHO ARE HERE IN
THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY IT'S HARD
TO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THESE
PEOPLE.
LOOK WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT
COUNTRY YOU CAME ALL THE WAY TO
OUR COUNTRY AND MARCHING IN THE
STREETS WITH ANOTHER COUNTRY'S
FLAG?
YOU CAN SEE WHY THERE IS NOT A
LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR THAT AND THE
VIOLENCE.

(02:31):
FRANKLY, THERE IS A LONGSTANDING
HISTORY IN OUR COUNTRY, SINCE
THE CIVIL WAR, AND SINCE THE
CIVIL RIGHTS ERA THAT THE
FEDERAL LAW IS SUPREME.
AND YOU CAN'T DISOBEY THE
FEDERAL LAW.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE GOVERNOR OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE MAYOR OF LA
SAYING WE ARE NOT GOING TO OBEY
THE FEDERAL LAW AND WHEN
SOMEBODY IN IN JAIL AND WE HAVE

(02:52):
THEM IN CUSTODY, IF WE FIND OUT
THEY ARE ILLEGAL WE ARE NOT
GOING TO TELL ANYBODY IN THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS THE
SANCTUARY CITY THING.
BUT IT'S LED TO PEOPLE WITH
VIOLENT BACKGROUNDS AND HAVEN'T
CONVICTIONS.
IF YOU ASK MOST AMERICANS ARE
YOU OKAY WITH PROTECTING THE
OFFICERS THE FEDERAL OFFICERS

(03:14):
FROM HARM FOR TRYING TO REMOVE
VIOLENT PEOPLE FROM OUR COUNTRY?
MOST PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE
A PROBLEM WITH IT AND I DON'T
EITHER.
WOULD I RATHER IT BE LOCAL
OFFICERS?
YEAH, BUT THEY ARE REFUSING TO
DO THEIR JOB.
LOCAL POLICE ARE ALWAYS BETTER
THAN THE ARMY.
I'VE ALWAYS PREFERRED LOCAL
POLICE THEY KNOW MORE OF THE

(03:35):
FOURTH AND FIRST AMENDMENT THEY
ARE BETTER EQUIPPED TO DO THIS
BECAUSE IT IS A DIFFICULT JOB.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES ARE
RESISTING FEDERAL LAW?
I HAVE A CONUNDRUM.
>> I'M IN YOUR HOME DISTRICT OF
BOWLING GREEN AND AN 18-YEAR-OLD
WAS ARRESTED BY I.C.E. HE

(03:55):
GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL A FEW
WEEKS AGO IN BOWLING GREEN AND
ADVOCATES SAY HE HAS THE LEGAL
DOCUMENTATION TO BE HERE HE HAS
A BOND HEARING NEXT WEEK.
WHAT IS THE MESSAGE TO YOUR
CONSTITUENTS IN BOWLING GREEN WE
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT REFUGEE
POPULATION SHOULD THEY BE
CONCERNED ABOUT BEING PICKED UP
BY I.C.E. WITHOUT CAUSE?
>> BOWLING GREEN HAS BEEN A VERY

(04:17):
WELCOMING COMMUNITY.
I'VE LIVED IN COMMUNITY FOR 30
YEARS.
AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY FRIENDS
WHO ARE FIRST GENERATION I AM
GRANTINGS.
WE ARE VERY, VERY WELCOMING
COMMUNITY.
BUT YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN LAWFUL IMMIGRANTINGS AND
UNLAWFUL IMMIGRANTS THERE IS A
BIG DIFFERENCE.
I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS
INDIVIDUAL SO I'M NOT GOING TO
COMMENT.

(04:38):
IN GENERAL WE ARE A WELCOMING
COMMUNITY.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW FIRST
GENERATION ALL THE PEOPLE I KNOW
CAME THROUGH A LAWFUL PROCESS.
THEY LEGALLY APPLIED AND CAME.
AND NO ONE IS THREATENING THEM
NO ONE IS MARCHING INTO HOMES
THREATENING PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE
LEGALLY.
THERE HAVE TO BE LAWS EITHER
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LAWS OR NO

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LAWS.
AND WE ADMIT OVER A MILLION
LEGAL IMMIGRANTS I MET WITH SOME
RECENTLY.
ON MONDAY IN BOWLING GREEN.
FIRST GENERATION, GOOD PEOPLE.
WHO ARE CREATING JOBS AND
LEADING BUSINESSES IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
BUT THEY ARE HERE LAWFULLY THEY
DIDN'T BREAKNA THE COUNTRY.
SO WE HAVE LAWS OR DON'T HAVE

(05:20):
LAWS AND I THINK PARTICULARLY
GOING AFTER THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF
AGREEMENT BUILT CRIMINAL
ELEMENT.
>> AND LET'S GET TO BUDGET
RECONCILIATION.
WE KNOW YOU DO NOT SUPPORT
ADDING $4 TRILLION TO THE
NATIONAL DEBT UNDER PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S TAX AND SPENDING BUDGET.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT
NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO GET YOU

(05:42):
ONBOARD WITH THIS LEGISLATION?
>> THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL
INVOLVES SEVERAL THINGS ONE IS
THE TAX CUTS FROM 2017 WHICH I
SUPPORT.
AND I STILL SUPPORT I WOULD LIKE
TO MAKE THOSE TAX CUTS
PERMANENT.
THAT I'M COMPLETELY ONBOARD WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP WITH THAT.
WITH REGARD TO THE SPENDING CUTS
I THINK THEY ARE WHIMPY AND

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ANEMIC AND AREN'T ENOUGH TO
CHANGE THE COURSE OF THE
ACCUMULATION OF DEBT.
WE'RE ACCUMULATING $2 TRILLION
EVERY YEAR.
OUR NATIONAL DEBT IS 36
TRILLION.
THIS IS AN OUT-OF-CONTROL
PROBLEM IT LEADS TO INFLATION,
RISING PRICES AND ULTIMATELY
WILL LEAD TO A CRASH AND
RECESSION IN OUR COUNTRY.
YES, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING

(06:23):
ABOUT THAT WE HAVE TO DO MORE IN
THE BILL.
BUT THE THING THAT MOST CONCERNS
ME IS THEY ARE EXTENDING THE
CREDIT LINE THE DEBT CEILING.
SO CURRENTLY, WE ARE AT 36
TRILLION THEY WANT TO ADD 5
TRILLION RIGHT NOW.
INCREASE IN THE CREDIT LINE.
AND THAT'S HISTORICALLY THE

(06:44):
BIGGEST INCREASE IN THE DEBT
CEILING EVER.
IF SOMEONE IS NOT SPENDING MONEY
WISELY LIKE CONGRESS, OR LIKE
YOUR TEENAGER, IF YOU YOUR
16-YEAR-OLD TEENAGER IS MAXED
OUT A CREDIT CARD AT $2,000 DO
YOU GIVE THEM MORE?
YOU NEED A $10,000 CREDIT LINE?
NO YOU GIVE THEM LESS AND START

(07:05):
PAYING THE BILLS.
THE SAME WITH CONGRESS WE SHOULD
GIVE THEM SMALL INCREMENTS OF
DEBT CEILING INCREASE AND HAVE
THEM PROVE TO US WHETHER OR NOT
THEY ARE GOING TO BE RELIABLE
CUTTING SPENDS AND MAYBE SOME
NEED TO BE SENT HOME IF THEY ARE
UNWILLING TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
>> SENATOR RAND PAUL WE
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME SO MUCH
TODAY.

(07:26):
THANK YOU.
SENATOR PAUL TOLD
REPORTS HE HAD BEEN UNINVITED TO
THE CONGRESSIONAL PICNIC AT THE
WHITE HOUSE CALLING THE MOVE
QUOTE INCREDIBLY PETTY.
BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD
REPORTERS PAUL AND HIS FAMILY
ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND.
>> YOU MADE A POSTING TODAY ON
TRUTH SOCIAL ABOUT SENATOR RAND

(07:46):
PAUL DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE HIM AT
THE PICNIC TONIGHT?
>> I DO, HE IS THE HARDEST VOTE
IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S.
SENATE TO GET.
PROBABLY WON'T GET HIM.
BUT HE IS VERY TOUGH VOTE HE IS
A VERY TOUGH VOTE.
HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FRIEND OF
MINE.
I GOT HIM ELECTED TWICE.

(08:08):
BUT I DON'T THINK HE UNDERSTANDS
HOW GREAT THIS BILL IS THIS IS A
GREAT BILL.
SENATOR PAUL POSTED A
FOR OWE ON X WITH HIS GRANDSON
SAYING THEY ARE READY FOR THE
PICNIC.
>>> THE SENATE IS ALSO SET TO
CONSIDER A BILL THAT WOULD CLAW
BACK MORE THAN $9 BILLION IN
SPENDING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

(08:29):
THE SO-CALLED RESCISSION PACKAGE
PASSED THE FULL HOUSE THIS
AFTERNOON.
IT CALLS FOR MAKING CUTS
RECOMMENDED BY DOGE PERMANENT
INCLUDING CUTS TO U.S. AID AND
THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC
BROADCASTING THAT HELPS FUND
KET.
ALL FIVE REPUBLICANS VOTED IN
FAVOR OF THE BILL ON SOCIAL
MEDIA, CONGRESSMAN THOMAS MASSIE

(08:52):
SAID QUOTE 9 BILLION WON'T SOLVE
ALL OUR BUDGET PROBLEMS BUT IT
IS AN INCREDIBLE START LET'S CUT
MORE.
CONGRESSMAN AN ANDY BARR SAID IN
PART QUOTE MY MESSAGE TO DOGE IS
SIMPLE KEEP THE CUTS COMING.
AND CONGRESSMAN HAL ROGERS OF
KENTUCKY'S FIFTH DISTRICT SAID
THIS PACKAGE IS ABOUT PULLING

(09:13):
BACK TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT HAVE
BEEN SPENT ON NET ZERO CITIES IN
MEXICO, SEXUAL HEALTH IN
VENEZUELA.
KET'S DIRECTOR SHAE HOPKINS IS
REACTING QUOTE WE ARE EXTREMELY
DISAPPOINTED BY TODAY'S ROTE TO
ELIMINATE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR

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PUBLIC BROADCASTING AS THE LOSS
OF THIS FUNDING WILL
SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISH KET'S
PROGRAMS AND SERVICES WE KNOW
THE MORE THAN TWO MILLION PEOPLE
WHO WATCH AND USE KET VALUE OUR
NEARLY 60 YEARS OF DEDICATION
AND SERVICE TO THE COMMONWEALTH.
>>> A SOLDIER IS DEAD AND
ANOTHER ONE HURT AFTER A
HELICOPTER INCIDENT LAST NIGHT

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AT FORT CAMPBELL AT 7:00 P.M.,
THE ARMY IS NOT SAYING IF THE
INCIDENT WAS A CRASH OR A HARD
LANDING.
THE 101ST AIRBORNE WILL NOT
RELEASE THE NAMES UNTIL THE
FAMILIES ARE NOTIFIED.
THE SOLDIER HURT IS NOW IN
STABLE CONDITION.
>>> GOVERNOR BESHEAR SAID THE

(10:15):
DEATH OF A FORT CAMPBELL SOLDIER
IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HURT US
ALL AND URGED PEOPLE TO KEEP THE
FAMILY IN THEIR PRAYERS AND
CAPITALLED ON TRUMP'S SYSTEM TO
FEDERALIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD TO
DETAIL DEAL WITH THE PROTESTS IN
LOS ANGELES.
>> FIRST, WHETHER IT'S IN
CALIFORNIA OR ANYWHERE ELSE,

(10:35):
VIOLENCE IS UNACCEPTABLE WHETHER
IT IS CONNECTED TO A PROTEST OR
NOT, VANDALISM IS UNACCEPTABLE.
THE DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY IS
UNACCEPTABLE AND THOSE WHO BREAK
THE LAW, DOING THOSE THINGS
SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE
PROTESTS THE PEOPLE BEST ABLE TO

(10:56):
GAUGE THEIR SIZE AND HOW TO
HANDLE THEM AND WHETHER
RESOURCES ARE NEEDED IS LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THE GROUND.
THIS IS THE LOS ANGELES POLICE
DEPARTMENT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
IT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST POLICE
FORCES IN THE UNITED STATES AND
HAS TRAINING AND ITS CHIEF IS
TELLING THE COUNTRY AND THE
WORLD THAT IT DPUS' NEED THE

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ASSISTANCE OF THE NATIONAL GUARD
TO HANDLE WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT
NOW.
I SUPPORT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I WANT TO LISTEN TO LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND FROM SOMEBODY
WHO HAS HAD TO GOVERN DURING
PROTESTS THOSE ON THE GROUND ARE
THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE BEST
PLACE TO SAY WHAT'S NEEDED AND
WHAT COULD HELP DEESCALATE A

(11:40):
SITUATION.
REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS CALLED SEVERAL
DEMOCRATIC GOVERNORS TO
WASHINGTON TODAY TO QUESTION
THEM OVER POLICIES LIMITING
COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL
IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES.
THE GOVERNORS OF ILLINOIS,
MINNESOTA AND NEW YORK TESTIFIED
BEFORE THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT
COMMITTEE CHAIRED BY JAMES COMER
OF KENTUCKY'S FIRST DISTRICT.
THE HEARING COMES AMID TENSIONS

(12:01):
AND PROTESTS OVER PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP ENFORCEMENT OF
IMMIGRATION LAWS.
>> DESPITE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
EFFORTS TO SECURE THE BORDER AND
ENFORCE THE LAW DEMOCRAT RUN
SANCTUARY CITIES AND STATES ARE
SIDING WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS.
FOR TODAY'S DEMOCRAT PARTY IT
SEEMS UNLIMITED ILLEGAL

(12:21):
IMMIGRATION IS NOT A FAILURE OF
POLICY, IT IS THE POLICY.
AND THAT AGENDA IS BEING PUSHED
AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT.
AND THIS COMES AT A STEEP COST
TO PUBLIC SAFETY, STRAINS LAW
ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES AND
IMPOSES A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON
FEDERAL AND STATE TAXPAYERS.
THAT'S NOT JUST BAD POLICY IT IS

(12:42):
A SERIOUS OVERSIGHT FAILURE.
CONGRESS MUST CONFRONT THIS
ABSURD REALITY.
TODAY'S HEARING
FOLLOWS A SIMILAR ONE IN MARCH
WHICH THE REPUBLICAN LED
COMMITTEE QUESTIONED THE MAYORS
OF CHICAGO, BOSTON, DENVER AND
NEW YORK.
>> THE FALLOUT CONTINUES AFTER

(13:03):
THE WITHDRAWAL OF A CONSENT
DECREE BETWEEN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND THE LOUISVILLE
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
LOUISVILLE OFFICIALS DISPUTE THE
NOTION THAT THEY DELAYED THE
CONSENT DECREE WHICH WAS
FINALIZED UNDER PRESIDENT
BIDEN'S JUSTICE DEPARTMENT BUT
DID NOT RECEIVE APPROVAL BEFORE
TRUMP TOOK OFFICE.
AS OUR JUNE LEFFLER REPORTS THE
CITY SAYS IT'S TIME TO MOVE

(13:24):
FORWARD WITH ITS OWN REFORMS.
>> LOUISVILLE OFFICIALS
ANNOUNCED THE COMMUNITY
COMMITMENT LAST MONTH.
IT LARGELY REPLICATES THE GOALS
AND TIMELINE OF THE PROPOSED
CONSENT DECREE.
INCLUDING INDEPENDENT
MONITORING.
JUST NOT BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT.
>> WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY
COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE MOVING
FORWARD WITH.
SO LOOKING BACK AT WHAT THE

(13:44):
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DID OR DIDN'T
DO IS A WASTE OF TIME IN ALL
HONESTY.
LET'S MOVE FORWARD IN HOW WE
MAKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
BETTER.
>> THE DAY TRUMP'S JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WOULD DROP THE
CONSENT DECREE BREONNA TAYLOR'S
MOTHER WROTE BLAMING THE CITY
FOR NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE

(14:05):
SOONER.
AT A DOWNTOWN FORUM, THE MAYOR
AND CHIEF OF POLICE PUSHED BACK
ON THAT IDEA.
>> THEN ATTORNEY GENERAL MERRICK
GARLAND CAME TO LOUISVILLE MARCH
SOMETHING OF 2023.
WE OFFERED TO PROVIDE A FIRST
DRAFT OF A CONSENT DECREE THAT
DAY TO THE UNITED STATES

(14:25):
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THEY INSISTED THAT THEY WOULD
PROVIDE US WITH THE FIRST DRAFT.
NOT WITHSTANDING OUR WEEKLY
REQUESTS WHERE THAT DRAFT WAS
COMING WE GOT THE FIRST DRAFT OF
THE CONSENT DECREE 11-AND-A-HALF
MONTHS LATER.
>> WE SAID TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE, WHO IS GETTING THIS
RIGHT?

(14:46):
AND WHAT CAN WE DO DIFFERENTLY?
WE WILL GO ANYWHERE.
WE WILL WE ARE WILLING TO SPEND
THE MONEY AND THE TIME WE ARE
WILLING TO PUT IN THE WORK.
YOU TELL US WHO IS GETTING IT
RIGHT AND THEY COULDN'T TELL US
THAT.
AT ANY POINT WE SAID WE ARE NOT
WAITING FOR THIS.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
CHANGING AND THEY WERE MORE

(15:07):
CONCERNED WITH DETECTING A CASE
THAN IMPROVING THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
>> I WILL ADD IF WE WERE USING
DELAY AS A TACTIC WE WOULD NOT
HAVE VOLUNTARILY SIGNED THE
COMMUNITY COMMITTMENT OF
COMMITMENT WITHIN HOURS OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ANNOUNCING
THEY WERE DROPPING THE CASE T
WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT

(15:28):
RESPONSE WE WOULD HAVE SAID OKAY
THEY'RE OUT.
THAT'S IN THE PAST.
NO MORE.
>> THE CITY AND FORMER LAWYERS
FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAY
LOUISVILLE HAS BEEN PROACTIVE.
>> JUST TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT,
FOLKS, OVER 260 POLICIES AND
CHANGES HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.
BEFORE A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
CONSENT DECREE WAS EVEN

(15:49):
FINALIZED WHICH IT NEVER GOT.
BEFORE WE HAD THE COMMUNITY
SAFETY COMMISSION WE HAVE BEEN
TAKING ACTION AND WE'RE
COMMITTED TO AT THAT TIME
CONTINUE ACTION.
>> LOUISVILLE CAN OFFER INPUT
THIS MONTH.
BOTH ARE TO DISCUSS WHAT THE
COMMUNITY WANTS FROM THE
INDEPENDENT MONITOR.
A THIRD PARTY THE CITY WILL
HIRE.

(16:09):
THE CHAIR OF UNIVERSITY OF
LOUISVILLE'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WILL LEAD THOSE
SESSIONS.
FOR "KENTUCKY EDITION" I'M JUNE
LEFFLER.
WHILE THE CITY OF
LOUISVILLE SAYS IT'S REPLICATING
THE ORIGINAL CONSENT DECREE THE
COURIER-JOURNAL REPORTED A FEW
THINGS ARE MISSING THAT INCLUDES
TRAINING ON TASERS, FEEDBACK

(16:29):
SURVEYS FROM ARRESTEES AND MORE
TRANSPARENCY AROUND POLICE
MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS.
>>> INSTEAD OF BATTLING IN THE
CAPITOL DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS WERE BATTLING ON THE
DIAMOND LAST NIGHT DURING THE
ANNUAL CONGRESSIONAL BASEBALL
GAME IN WASHINGTON D.C.
AND CHECK OUT CONGRESSMAN MORGAN
MCGARVEY OF KENTUCKY AT THE
PLATE.

(16:50):
>> McGARVEY NOT LEAVING
ANYTHING TO CHANCE THERE.
HE STRUCK OUT IN THE FIRST BUT I
RESPECT A BATTER THAT SAYS I'M
HERE LET'S PLAY BALL.
0-2.
TAKES A LITTLE BIT OFF IT?
AND HE GIVES UP A ROCKET DOWN
THE RIGHT-FIELD LINE.
GOING THE OTHER WAY, HE HAS A

(17:11):
LONG WAY TO RUN.
TO CORRAL THAT DOWN HE IS GOING
FOR THREE.
>>
IT WAS THE HIGH POINT
OF THE GAME FOR THE DEMOCRATS AT
LEAST AS THE REPUBLICANS WON
13-2.
[♪♪]

(17:38):
TODAY IS NATIONAL WOMEN VETERANS
RECOGNITION DAY OVER THE WEEKEND
CLOSE TO 100 KENTUCKY WOMEN
VETERANS GATHERED FOR AN EVENT
DESIGNED TO HELP EMPOWER,
CONNECT AND FOSTER A SENSE OF
COMMUNITY FOR A GROUP THAT
DOESN'T ALWAYS GET THE
RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE.
>> SAY ARMY.
>> GO ARMY!

(17:59):
>> WE SHARE A VERY UNIQUE BOND
AND THAT'S THE CAMARADERIE IS
LIKE UNLIKE ANY OTHER IT'S
IMPORTANT IN ALL THE MILITARY
BUT ESPECIALLY FEMALE VETS.
>> WE CONNECT THROUGH WHO WE
ARE, WHAT WE'VE DONE ESPECIALLY
AS WOMEN VETERANS.
A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T
UNDERSTAND US.

(18:19):
A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE TRYING TO
MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT ISOLATED.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE AT
THE CONFERENCE IS MAKE SURE
WE'RE REACHING OUT TO EACH
WOMAN.
>> THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SO
MANY WOMEN VETERANS TOGETHER IS
AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR NOT
ONLY TO APPRECIATE WHAT WE'VE
DONE AS SERVICE MEMBERS BUT TO
HAVE US ALL COME TOGETHER AND BE

(18:40):
LIKE WOW IT IS A HUGE SISTERHOOD
OF US BEING ABLE TO SAY I WENT
THROUGH THE SAME THING NO MATTER
WHAT SERVICE.
SUPPORT SYSTEM IS SO VALUABLE
BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY HELPS YOU
ADJUST AND TRANSITION TO THE
CIVILIAN LIFE BUT IT'S COMMUNITY
THAT UNDERSTANDS THE SAME LINGO.
>> I SPENT 20 YEARS IN THAT

(19:00):
ENVIRONMENT AND SUDDENLY I'M OUT
OF IT IT CAN BE A STRUGGLE TO
FIGURE OUT WHERE DO I FIT AND
HOW DO I GET MY NEEDS MET.
>> WHEN IT DOESN'T SEEM TO EXIST
IN THE NEW ENVIRONMENT.
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECONNECT IN
THAT SAME TYPE OF AN ENVIRONMENT
AND BE REMINDED OF THE UNIQUE
EXPERIENCES WE HAD THAT UNLESS
YOU ARE A WOMAN VETERAN, IT'S

(19:22):
TOO DIFFICULT TO TRY TO
UNDERSTAND IT.
>> WE'RE PROUD OF EVERYTHING WE
HAVE DONE IN THE MILITARY.
BECAUSE BEING MALE DOMINATED, A
LOT OF TIMES WE'RE NOT SEEN OR
RECOGNIZED.
I'M HEARING A LOT OF THE STORIES
OF THEIR EXPERIENCES AND THE
ROLES THEY PLAYED AND WHO IS
AROUND THEM.
SOME OF THE OTHER I WOULD SAY

(19:43):
NOT SO GREAT STORIES, A LOT OF
WOMEN HAVE EXPERIENCED MILITARY
SEXUAL TRAUMA, A LOT OF WOMEN
HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF
DIFFERENT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES
JUST DUE TO WHERE THEY SERVED
AND HOW THEY SERVED.
>> IN 1985, THE NUMBERS OF WOMEN

(20:04):
ENLISTING AND SERVING IN GENERAL
WERE DEFINITELY INCREASING BUT
IT WAS STILL VERY MUCH THE OLD
SCHOOL MENTALITY ALL THE THINGS
YOU HEAR IT IS A MEN'S MILITARY.
IT WASN'T UNUSUAL TO FEEL LIKE
YOU WERE NOT WANTED YOUR
PRESENCE WAS NOT WANTED IN A
CERTAIN OFFICE OR WORK
ENVIRONMENT.
IT WASN'T UNUSUAL TO FEEL LIKE

(20:24):
YOU WERE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU
WERE ASKING FOR ACCOMMODATIONS
YOU NEEDED AS A WOMAN.
>> IT WAS STILL THE CULTURE IN
THE MILITARY.
OFTEN WE WOULD BECOME ONE OF THE
ONLY WOMEN OR ONE OF A FEW WOMEN
IN A ROOM FULL OF OUR MALE
COUNTERPARTS.
THE CHALLENGES WE MET WITH WERE
MOSTLY DOUBT WHETHER OR NOT YOU

(20:45):
HAD THE CAPACITY, THE ABILITIES
THE SKILLS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE
THE SAME CHALLENGES.
>> YOU FEEL UNDERESTIMATED BUT I
TOOK THAT AS MORE OF A CHANCE TO
LIKE IMPROVE MY STRENGTH
RESILIENCE AND IT WAS A GROWING

(21:05):
OPPORTUNITY MORE THAN ANYTHING.
>> THERE WERE WOMEN WHO JUST
DEALT WITH WHAT WAS COMING AT
THEM.
AND DID THE BEST THEY COULD WITH
IT AND A LOT OF US WERE LIKE
OKAY I HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS
COMING AT ME BUT THIS IS NOT THE
WAY IT SHOULD BE.
SO I NEED TO DO WHAT I CAN TO
TRY TO FACILITATE CHANGE.

(21:25):
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THE WOMEN
COMING BEHIND US WERE GOING TO
NOT HAVE TO KEEP DEALING WITH
THOSE SAME STRUGGLES.
>> WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, IT'S
SO POWERFUL WHETHER IT'S
BUILDING ONE ANOTHER UP OR
HELPING OUT.
>> COMING TOGETHER IS VITAL.
WE CHOOSE THIS COUNTRY.
>> ALWAYS WE PROVED TO THEM NOT

(21:47):
ONLY DID WE BELONG IN THE
SERVICE BUT WE BELONG WITH THEM
MAKING THE STRATEGIC DECISIONS
THAT LEADERS HAVE TO MAKE.
AND ALSO PROVING WE HAD THE
PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES AND THE
MENTAL CAPABILITIES OF BEING
SUCCESSFUL SOLDIERS.
ACCORDING TO THE
KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS
AFFAIRS THERE ARE MORE THAN

(22:08):
24,000 WOMEN VETERANS IN THIS
STATE.
[♪♪]
DO YOU KNOW THE MAN CREDITED
WITH FOUNDING NORTHERN KENTUCKY
CITIES LIKE NEWPORT, BELIVIEU
AND DAYTON?
HIS NAME IS GENERAL JAMES
TALYOR.
AND IN TONIGHT'S LOOK AT

(22:29):
KENTUCKY HISTORY WE'LL TAKE YOU
INSIDE HIS HOME AND LEARN MORE
ABOUT HIS INFLUENCE.
OUR EMILY SISK HAS THE DETAILS.
>> THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE WESTERN
FRONTIER.
THE COUNTRY STOPPED BASICALLY AT
KENTUCKY.
>> IT WAS THE 1790s AND THAT
WESTERN FRONTIER SOON

(22:49):
TRANSFORMED INTO A PROSPEROUS
AREA WITH CREDIT TO GENERAL
JAMES TALYOR V.
HE WAS A BUSINESSMAN WHO
INHERITED THOUSANDS OF ACRES IN
WHAT WE KNOW AS NORTHERN
KENTUCKY.
>> HE CAME OUT HERE TO CARVE OUT
OUT OF THE WILDERNESS A CITY.
DIDN'T COME WITH THE IDEA OF
OPENING A PLANTATION LIKE THEY

(23:10):
HAD BEEN DOING IN VIRGINIA BUT
TO MAKE A CITY.
>> GENERAL JAMES TALYOR AND HIS
WIFE KETURAH WERE WELL CONNECTED
IN HIGH SOCIETY.
TAYLOR WAS RELATED TO JAMES
MADISON, CONNECTED WITH THOMAS
JEFFERSON AND OTHERS.
HE USED HIS INFLUENCE TO
CONVINCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
TO ESTABLISH AN ARMY BARRACKS IN

(23:32):
NEWPORT.
>> THEY WERE CLAIMING WITH
GEORGE, GEORGE WASHINGTON HE WAS
A PROMINENT KENTUCKIAN NOT ONLY
IN KENTUCKY BUT IN THE UNITED
STATES.
>> HE ESTABLISHED A FERRY THAT
RAN BETWEEN NEWPORT AND
CINCINNATI.
HE SETUP A ROAD AT THAT TIME
WENT FROM NEWPORT INTO
LEXINGTON.
THAT WE NOW KNOW IS ROUTE 27.

(23:54):
>> TAYLOR WAS ALSO A SLAVE
HOLDER.
DR. DAVID CHILDS A PROFESSOR AT
NRN KENTUCKY UNIVERSITY SAY
TAYLOR MAY HAVE OWNED 50
ENSLAVED PEOPLE.
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
LABOR FROM HIS ENSLAVED PEOPLE
TO HELP CLEVELAND, CUT DOWN

(24:14):
TREES, ESTABLISH WHAT WE KNOW
TODAY AS NEWPORT.
>> ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF
GENERAL TAYLOR'S INFLUENCE AND A
LOCATION ON THE NATIONAL
REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IS
THE TAYLOR MANSION RIGHT IN THE
HEART OF NEWPORT.
>> THE TAYLOR MANSION IS
PROBABLY THE OLDEST CONSTRUCTION

(24:37):
SURVIVING CONSTRUCTION IN THIS
AREA GOING BACK TO 1803.
THAT IS WAY BEFORE THE CIVIL
WAR.
THE CIVIL WAR WAS NOT UNTIL THE
1860s.
>> THE MANSION WOULD HAVE BEEN
ONE OF THE LARGEST HOMES IN THE
REGION WITH 40 ROOMS AND 17 FOOT
CEILINGS.
THE ARCHITECT ALSO WORKED ON THE
WHITE HOUSE.

(24:57):
>> WHEN HE BUILT THE TAYLOR
MANSION HE BUILT IT TO LOOK OVER
THE RIVER.
>> THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT FOR
LIVING IN AND ENTERTAINING.
>> TAYLOR ENTERTAINED MANY AT
THE MANSION UNTIL HE DIED IN
1848.
>> HE ACTUALLY DIED UPSTAIRS IN
THE MANSION.

(25:18):
AFTER HAVING CAST A VOTE FOR HIS
COUSIN ZACHARY TAYLOR IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.
>> YEARS LATER IT BECAME KNOWN
AT THE TAYLOR MANSION WAS A
STATION IN THE UNDERGROUND
RAILROAD WHILE NOT CERTAIN WHAT
THAT MEANS, HISTORIANS HAVE
CLUES.
RESIDENTS MAY HAVE SIGNALED WITH

(25:39):
A LANTERN FROM THE HOME OR USE
FERRY BOATS TO GET INDIVIDUALS
ACROSS THE RIVER.
>> NOBODY WOULD QUESTION THEM
BECAUSE THEY WERE ENSLAVED
PEOPLE OF THE MOST PROMINENT
FAMILY IN THE AREA ONE OF THE
RICHEST FAMILIES IN THE COUNTRY.
>> IF YOU SEE A LANTERN IN THE
SKY IN THE TOP OF THIS BUILDING
THAT TELLS YOU THAT IT COULD BE

(25:59):
SAFE TO CROSS HERE AND GET
ACROSS TO FREEDOM.
>> WHILE THE LEGACY OF GENERAL
JAMES TALYOR V IS COMPLICATED,
NORTHERN KENTUCKIANS STILL FEEL
HIS IMPACT.
>> I THINK WE WOULD SEE A VERY
DIFFERENT NORTHERN KENTUCKY.

(26:20):
RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT YAM JAMES.
WITHOUT THAT VISION FOR IT AND
VISION A CITY IF HE TURNED IT
INTO A FARM OR A PLANTATION, WE
MIGHT NEVER HAVE SEEN THE TYPE
OF FILL THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
>> FOR "KENTUCKY EDITION" I'M
EMILY SISK.
INTERESTING LOOK BACK

(26:40):
THERE.
GENERAL TAYLOR'S MANSION HAS
BEEN PRIVATELY OWNED.
THE OWNERS PLAN TO OPEN THE
RESTORED HOME FOR TOURS AND
SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE COMING
MONTHS.
>> WE HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US
AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT AT 6:30
EASTERN 5:30 CENTRAL FOR
"KENTUCKY EDITION" WHERE WE
INFORM, CONNECT AND INSPIRE.
YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE TO OUR E-MAIL

(27:01):
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WITH EVERYTHING THERE.
WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
TONIGHT.
HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
[♪♪]
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