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September 29, 2025 27 mins
Why senior centers in Kentucky will have to scale back meal programs, lawmakers discuss horse racing and gambling in Kentucky, what Congressman McGarvey is reportedly saying about his vote on a resolution honoring Charlie Kirk, and taking steps to increase accuracy when it comes to monitoring Kentucky's weather.
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>> Bill (00:08):
THE LATEST ON
KENTUCKY'S OPEN U.S. SENATE
RACE.
DEMOCRAT AMY MCGRATH IS NOW SAID
TO BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING
GETTING IN.
KENTUCKY'S HEALTH COMMISSIONER
AND THE GOVERNOR DISCOURAGE
LISTENING TO SOME FEDERAL
GUIDANCE.
ATTORNEY GENERAL RUSSELL COLEMAN
PUSHES FOR KENTUCKY TO RESUME
THE DEATH PENALTY.

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THE OPEN RECORDS LAW GETS LOTS
OF USE.
HEADING INTO OCTOBER, COMMENT IS
NEXT ON KET.
[♪♪]
GOOD EVENING I'M BILL
BRYANT AND WE WELCOME YOU TO
"COMMENT ON KENTUCKY" A LOOK

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BACK AND SOME ANALYSIS OF THE
WEEK'S NEWS IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND THE GUESTS ON OUR PANEL OF
WORKING KENTUCKY JOURNALISTS
TONIGHT ARE SYLVIA GOODMAN,
CAPITAL REPORTER FOR KENTUCKY
PUBLIC RADIO.
LUCAS AULBACH, REPORTER FOR THE
COURIER-JOURNAL.
AND JOHN CHEVES, REPORTER FOR
THE THE LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER.
WE HAVE A LOT TO DISCUSS

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TONIGHT.
LET'S BEGIN WITH POLITICS AND
THE GROWING SPECULATION THAT
DEMOCRAT AMY MCGRATH MAY MAKE
YET ANOTHER RUN THIS ONE FOR THE
U.S. SENATE.
SHE NARROWLY LOST TO ANDY BARR
AND SHE OUTSPENT MITCH
McCONNELL IN 2020 AND HE
DEFEATED HER BY ALMOST 20

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POINTS, JOHN.
McCONNELL IS RETIRING BARR IS
NOW RUNNING FOR THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION.
SO THIS IS INTERESTING.
>> IT IS.
AMY MCGRATH HAS SPENT THE LAST
FEW YEARS SINCE HER RUN AGAINST
MITCH McCONNELL PUBLISHING A
BOOK ABOUT HERSELF AND STARTING
POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES AND
GETTING INVOLVED IN DEMOCRATIC

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POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
HELPING OUT OTHER DEMOCRATS SHE
HAS BEEN BUILDING A PROFILE
GOING ON CABLE TELEVISION DOING
THE THINGS YOU DO.
AS AUSTIN HORN REPORTED, SHE IS
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING GETTING
INTO OUR SENATE RACE AS A
DEMOCRAT FOR NEXT YEAR JOINING
AN ALREADY CROWDED FIELD.
THE PROS FOR HER WOULD BE SHE

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HAS BEEN SEEN AS A MODERATE
DEMOCRAT AS SHE HAS A MILITARY
BACKGROUND IN CASE YOU HADN'T
HEARD SHE WAS A FIGHTER PILOT.
BIG PART OF HER CAMPAIGNS TO
DATE AND HAS THE NAME
RECOGNITION HAVING RUN FOR
FEDERAL OFFICE TWICE ALREADY IN
KENTUCKY.
BIG CON AGAINST HER WOULD BE
THAT SHE LOST TWO FEDERAL RACES

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HERE IN KENTUCKY.
SHE COULD BE SEEN AS A PROVEN
LOSER HERE IN KENTUCKY POLITICS.
>> I WOULD SAY THE 2018 RACE AND
2020 WENT DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
AGAINST ANDY BARR IN 2018 SHE
ALMOST KNOCKED HIMSELF WASN'T
THE SAME IN 2020 SHE LOST THERE,
SOME SUPPORT AMONG DEMOCRATS HER

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JUMPING BACK IN THE RACE SHE
WOULD HAVE THE NAME RECOGNITION
BUMP THAT THE OTHER CANDIDATES
ARE LOOKING FOR.
BUT, YEAH, IT WOULD SHAKE THINGS
UP.
AND MCGRATH WAS A
FUNDRAISER AND BROUGHT IN $94
MILLION TO McCONNELL'S 63
MILLION ALTHOUGH HE DEFEATED
HER.

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AND WE REMEMBER HER CAMPAIGN ADS
AND SHE WAS A FIGHTER PILOT AS A
RESULT.
>> WE DEFINITELY DO.
SHE HAS GREAT NAME RECOGNITION
IN THE STATE FOR THE BETTER OR
WORSE IS UP FOR DATE LIKE JOHN
WAS SAYING.
IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THE TWO
OTHER THREE OTHER CANDIDATES ALL
THE OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE A

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MILITARY RECORD HERE IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
SO, I MEAN THAT HAS TO PLAY INTO
THINGS WILL IT BE AS MUCH OF A
SHIFT THAT HER FIGHTER PILOT
MENTALITY?
AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S A MUDDY
PRIMARY RIGHT NOW.
THE OTHER THREE CANDIDATES IN
THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR THIS
SENATE SEAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
NAME ID SHE WOULD BE SHAKING IT

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UP AS A BIG NAME.
AGAIN, SHE HASN'T SAID SHE IS
GOING TO RUN IT'S SPECULATION.
BUT YOU CAN SEE WHY
GIVEN THE MONEY SHE RAISED IN
THAT RACE.
AS NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC
OPERATIVES TRIED TO GET HIGH
PROFILE CANDIDATES IN HERE AND
THEY SETTLE ON ONE WHO IS
ALREADY IN THE RACE WE DON'T
KNOW, IS IT PART OF THEIR

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STRATEGY TO TRY TO MAKE KENTUCKY
COMPETITIVE AT LEAST IN THE
SENATE RACE SO THAT REPUBLICAN
RESOURCES WOULD HAVE TO COME
HERE THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE BE
SPENT ON SEATS THEY ARE TRYING
TO PROTECT?
>> YEAH, THEY WOULD LOVE TO MAKE
IT COMPETITIVE THAT IS AN UPHILL
CLIMB.
ANYBODY CAN LOOK AT THE NUMBERS
AND TELL YOU THE SAME.

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A LOT CAN CHANGE IN A YEAR.
A LOT CAN CHANGE IN A DAY IN THE
POLITICAL CLIMATE.
I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF
REPUBLICANS WORRIED LOCALLY
ABOUT 2026 AGAIN A LOT CAN
CHANGE.
NATIONAL DEMOCRATS PAY PUMPED A
LOT OF MONEY IN 2020 TRYING TO
GET AMY MCGRATH TO KNOCK-OFF
MITCH McCONNELL AND THAT RACE
WAS CALLED BY DINNERTIME.

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IT SAYS A LOT.
THE DEMOCRATS WOULD
HAVE A FOUR-WAY PRIMARY IF
MCGRATH GETS IN PAMELA
STEVENSON, FORMER SERVICE AGENT
LOGAN FORSYTHE AND FORMER C.I.A.
AGENT JOEL WILLETT ARE IN THE
RUNNING.
WENDELL FORD USED TO SAY THAT
DEMOCRATS THRIVED AFTER

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PRIMARIES IN KENTUCKY.
THAT WAS DECADES AGO.
WOULD IT STILL GIVE THE DEMS A
CHANCE TO GET OUT THERE AND BE
SEEN AHEAD OF THE FALL RACES?
>> THE DEMOCRATS IN KENTUCKY
COULD EMERGE FROM THEIR PRIMARY
NEXT MAY WITH ONE ADVANTAGE
WHICH IS THE REPUBLICANS RIGHT
NOW ARE BEATING EACH OTHER UP

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VICIOUSLY.
NATE MORRIS AND DANIEL CAMERON
AND ANDY BARR ARE SHOOTING AT
EACH OTHER CALLING EACH OTHER
NAMES SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT
EACH OTHER AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT
WILL CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT EIGHT
MONTHS.
IF THE DEMOCRATS STAY CIVIL AND
HAVE A RELATIVELY POLITE
CAMPAIGN WITH EACH OTHER, THEY
ARE GOING TO HAVE A WINNER NEXT

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MAY WHEREAS THE REPUBLICANS ARE
GOING TO HAVE A BRUISED,
BLOODIED SURVIVOR WHO THEN IS
GOING TO BE AT LEAST MORE
VULNERABLE COME THE GENERAL
ELECTION CAMPAIGN.
THERE IS A LOT TO WATCH
ON THE RADAR.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS
IN JUST A MOMENT.
WE NOTE THAT CHARLES BOOKER WHO
LOST THE 2020 DEMOCRATIC

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NOMINATION TO MCGRATH HAS
RESANED FROM HIS POSITION IN
STATE GOVERNMENT.
AND HE SAYS THERE IS A FIGHT
AHEAD OF US THAT IS A DIRECT
QUOTE.
DO WE KNOW WHAT HE MAYBE
PLANNING?
>> VERY INTERESTING NAME.
A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT HIM IN
LOUISVILLE.
WE HAVE A MAYORAL RACE COMING UP
COULD HE RUN TO THE LEFT OF
GREENBERG?

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WE'LL SEE.
MORGAN MCGARVEY THERE IS A BIT
OF A RIFT BETWEEN HIM AND SOME
OF THE PROGRESSIVE MEMBERS OF
THE PARTY IN LOUISVILLE.
IS THAT AN OPTION?
A LOT COULD HAPPEN.
IT'S FASCINATING NAME, SOMEONE
WHO HAD SUCCESS IN 2020 NOT AS
MUCH AGAINST RAND PAUL IN 2022.
HE SOUNDS LIKE HE IS COMING

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BACK.
THE FIRST NONPARTISAN
RACE FOR LOUISVILLE MAYOR IN A
LONGTIME.
>> YEAH.
AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT CHANGES
THE DYNAMIC.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
REPUBLICANS.
BUSINESSMAN NATE MORRIS
ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT SREUF
VEHICLE RAMP SAMMY ENDORSED HIM.

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>> VIVEK RAMASWAMY IF THEY WERE
TO PUT THAT ON DRAFTKINGS PUT
MONEY ON THAT THAT IS A NATURAL
FIT.
TWO GUYS, TWO BUSINESS GUYS, 2
GUYS WHO WANT TO RUN AS THE
POLITICAL OUTSIDER FOLLOW THAT
TRUMP FOOTPRINT WILL IT WORK?
WE'LL SEE.
THEY ARE BOTH ATTRACT THAT
PORTION OF THE REPUBLICAN BASE
THAT IS AGAINST THE CAREER

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POLITICIANS.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
AND COULD IT HELP NATE IN
NORTHERN KENTUCKY WHERE MASSIE
SAYS DANIEL CAMERON IS THE
FRONTRUNNER?
I KNOW PEOPLE SAY ANDY BARR MADE
INROADS UP THERE.
WE'LL SEE.
AS FAR AS THE NOMADS THEY DO
TAKE A DIFFERENT TONE.
HE'S BEEN I WOULDN'T BE BREAKING

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NEWS NOT SHY AT TAKES SHOTS AT
MITCH McCONNELL THIS IS MORE
MUTED AND I'M WONDERING I'M SURE
IF YOU ASKED NATE HE WOULD SAY
IT'S NOT THE CASE I'M WONDERING
IF THEY ARE TRYING TO DIAL IT
BACK AND NOT ALIENATE EVERY
REPUBLICAN WHO HAS A TIE TO
MITCH McCONNELL.
THE RULE IS THEY ARE
NOT SUPPOSED TO COORDINATE WITH

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THE PACS, BUT IT'S ALWAYS
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY GO
IN THE STRATEGY.
THE ATTACK ADS FROM THE
POLITICAL GROUPS TARGETING
MORRIS AND BARR ARE CONTINUOUS
AS WE'VE NOTED.
CAMERON HAS NOT RUN AN AD TO
THIS POINT COULD IT BENEFIT THE
FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL IF
VOTERS GET TURNED OFF BY THE

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FIREWORKS IN THE RACE BETWEEN
THE OTHER TWO?
>> IT'S INTERESTING.
I THINK IF YOU FOLLOWED CAMERON
BEFORE WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR
GOVERNOR AND NOW THERE IS A TONE
SHIFT IN HOW HE IS PRESENTING
HIMSELF HE IS MUCH MORE UPBEAT
AND POSITIVE MAYBE IT'S PART OF
THAT HERE.
IT'S BLOODY PRIMARY ALREADY AND
WE ARE MONTHS OUT.
SO A LOT MORE TO COME.

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AND I EXPECT THAT CAMERON WILL
START RUNNING ADS AT SOME POINT
IS WHEN DOES HE KICK IN WITH
THOSE DOLLARS WITH THAT KIND OF
AD MACHINE THERE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE HAS A
LOT MORE AUTOMATIC NAME ID IN
THE STATE WHERE BARR HAS NOT RUN
BEFORE AND MORRIS HAS NEVER RUN
FOR OFFICE BEFORE.

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HE HAS THAT NAME ID MAYBE HE
DOESN'T HAVE TO INTRODUCE
HIMSELF TO VOTERS AS MUCH AS THE
OTHER CANDIDATES THAT MIGHT PLAY
INTO HIS FAVOR AND WHY HE HASN'T
GOTTEN IN THE FIREWORKS YET.
HE MAKES NOTE THAT
POLLING SHOWS HIM AHEAD HE
CLAIMS HE IS LEADING.
>> THAT IS WHAT THE POLLING

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SHOWS SO FAR.
AS YOU SAID IT'S
INTERESTING BARR IS MAKING ALL
THOSE TRAVELS INTO NORTHERN
KENTUCKY UP TRYING TO GET KNOWN.
HE SERVES THE SIXTH DISTRICT,
ONE SIXTH OF THE STATE.
>> YOU SAW IT AT FANCY FARM.
HE SAID HE IS STILL TRYING TO
MAKE THE INROADS IN DIFFERENT

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CORNERS OF THE STATE.
HE BORDERS NORTHERN KENTUCKY AND
IS CLOSE WITH HAL ROGERS.
HE IS STILL WORKING TO INTRODUCE
HIMSELF TO VOTERS.
BUT HE HAS MOMENTUM BEHIND HIM.
CAMERON DISMISSED TALK
HE MIGHT SHIFT TO THE FOURTH
DISTRICT RACE WHERE PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S TEAM IS LOOKING FOR A
CANDIDATE TO CHALLENGE THOMAS

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MASSIE?
>> THERE WAS A POLITICAL
ARTICLE, I BELIEVE AND HE HAS
THROWN COLD WATER HE VIEWS
HIMSELF AS THE FRONTRUNNER HE IS
THE NAME RECOGNITION FRONTRUNNER
THERE WAS A POLL PROMOTED BY
ANDY BARR'S CAMPAIGNING SHOWING
BARR'S MOVEMENT BUT IT SAID THAT
DANIEL CAMERON IS THE NAME AT
THE TOP OF EVERYONE'S MIND.

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YEAH, I THINK HE'S LOOKING FOR
MOMENTUM.
THAT RACE IS ONE TO
WATCH.
PROBABLY, BECAUSE MITCH
McCONNELL IS THE ONE WHO IS
LEAVING OFFICE AS MUCH AS
ANYTHING?
>> MITCH McCONNELL WAS THE
SENATE REPUBLICAN LEADER FOR
MANY YEARS AND HIS SEAT SINCE
1985.
PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS WHO IS GOING
TO GET IT AFTER HIM.

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IT IS A SOLID RED REPUBLICAN
SEAT BY EVERYONE'S PREDICTIONS
BUT THEY WANT TO SEE WHO GETS IT
NEXT.
AND CONGRESSMAN MASSIE
AND SENATOR RAND PAUL MADE
APPEARANCES THEY CARVED OUT
POSITIONS THAT DIFFER FROM THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS COMES ON
THE DEFICIT SPENDING TRYING TO

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KEEP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM
SHUTTING DOWN NEXT WEEK.
THERE'S BEEN SOME PROPOSALS IN
THAT AND PAUL AND MASSIE VOTED
AGAINST REPUBLICAN BACKED
SPENDING BILLS TO KEEP THE
GOVERNMENT FUNDED.
>> TWO REASONS I'M WITHHOLDING
MY VOTE FOR THE CR ONE IT'S NOT
CUTTING MONEY EVEN WITH
INFLATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE

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INCREASED THE MONEY SOMEWHERE
ELSE IT WAS A PLOT TO GET US TO
THIS POSITION.
AND THESE THINGS NEED TO BE
VOTED ON SEPARATELY.
>> IT CAME TO US AND IT FAILED
THE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL.
IT IS A $2 TRILLION DEFICIT AND
THE DEMOCRATS PUT FORWARD A $3
TRILLION DEFICIT AND IT FAILED.
AND IT WILL COME UP MONDAY AND I

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SUSPECT 10 DEMOCRATS WILL VOTE
FOR IT AND IT WILL PASS.
IT WAS JUST INTERESTING
TO SEE THE JOINT APPEARANCES IN
SOME WAYS.
>> THOMAS MASSIE NOT NECESSARILY
THE MOST POPULAR FIGURE AMONG
NATIONAL REPUBLICANS AS YOU MAY
HAVE HEARD.
DOESN'T BORANE RAN AT ALL.
HE IS ON THE TRAIL WITH HIM FOR
TWO DAYS.

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THEY ARE ALIGNED ON LOWERING THE
NATIONAL DEBT AND PULLING BACK A
LITTLE BIT FROM FOREIGN AFFAIRS.
AND MASSIE, A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
ARE NOT HAPPY FOR HIS PUSH TO
RELEASE MORE FILES RELATED TO
JEFFREY EPSTEIN IT DOES NOT
BOTHER SENATOR PAUL.
AND THEY ARE BOTH
DEFICIT HAWKS AND THEY WANT THE

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BUDGETING PROCESS TO BE MORE
ORDERLY.
>> THEY DO.
WHAT IS ON THE TABLE WHICH MIGHT
OR MIGHT NOT KEEP THE GOVERNMENT
OPEN IS A CONTINUING RESOLUTION
THAT WOULD KEEP THE FUNDING
LEVELS STATIC FOR A COUPLE MORE
MONTHS.
THEY SAY NO.
THEY WANT LESS MONEY FOR SPENT
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND
THEY ALSO DON'T WANT ONE LUMP
SUM TO GO FORWARD WHAT WE USED

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TO HAVE AT ONE POINT WHICH WAS
THE DIFFERENT EXECUTIVE
DEPARTMENTS TO BE FUNDED WITH
DIFFERENT BUDGETS.
AND THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING
TO GET IT.
>> I THINK KEY HERE IS THEY
DON'T WANT CUTS DOWN THE LINE.
THAT BIG SPENDING BILL THAT JUST
PASSED THE MASSIVE ONE, THE BIG,
BEAUTIFUL BILL HAD CUTS THAT
COME DOWN THE LINE IN A FEW

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YEARS.
THE REASON THAT MASSIE GAVE IS
HE WANTED CUTS NOW HE WANTS CUTS
TO ADDRESS THAT DEFICIT.
HE WEARS THAT TRACKER ON
HIMSELF.
THAT IS REALLY A VERY IMPORTANT
TO BOTH OF THEM.
AND THEY WANT THOSE CUTS TO BE
IMMEDIATE AND WANT THEM TO BE
BIG.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS, THIS WEEK KENTUCKY'S

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HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
SECRETARY STEVEN STACK SPOKE OUT
ABOUT FEDERAL GUIDANCE AFTER THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S
ANNOUNCEMENT THAT LINKED TYLENOL
TO AUTISM AND THE NEXT DAY
GOVERNOR BESHEAR MADE IT CLEAR
HE TOO HAS CONCERNS ABOUT HEALTH
GUIDELINES.
>> CERTAINLY THE PRESIDENT'S

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PRESS CONFERENCE ON TYLENOL AND
PREGNANCY WAS RECKLESS AND
DANGEROUS.
WE NEED OUR SCIENCE TO BE BASED
IN SCIENCE.
NOT TO BE A POLITICAL AGENDA.
I'M PLEASED LISTEN TO YOUR
DOCTOR.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH YOU
COULD LISTEN RIGHT NOW TO HHS OR
THE C.D.C., BUT LISTEN TO YOUR

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DOCTOR.
THIS GOT ATTENTION
BECAUSE WHEN STACK WAS THE
HEALTH COMMISSIONER AND OF
COURSE, BESHEAR WAS GOVERNOR
DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC THEY
PUSHED FOR FOLLOWING FEDERAL
GLANCE R GUIDANCE.
>> THEY PUSHED HARD WHEN IT
WASN'T POPULAR.
THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS AT THE
TIME THEY AGREED WITH IT THEY
FELT IT FOLLOWED THE MEDICAL

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CONSENSUS.
A LOT OF DEMOCRATS AND
SCIENTISTS SAY WHAT THE C.D.C.
IS CURRENTLY PUSHING WITH THE
F.D.A. IS PUSHING IS DOES NOT
FOLLOW WHAT THE MEDICAL
CONSENSUS IS.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S
WHAT IT ALL COMES BACK TO.
BELIEVING THAT IT'S POLITICALLY
MOTIVATED RATHER THAN MOTIVATED
BY THE SCIENCE.

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AGAIN, THE GOVERNOR
SAYING TRUST YOUR DOCTOR OR
PROVIDER.
JOHN, OPEN RECORDS HAVE BEEN IN
THE NEWS A LOT LATELY
SURROUNDING THE FAYETTE COUNTY
SCHOOL SYSTEM AND ITS $16
MILLION SHORTFALL.
YOU DID A PIECE HOW THE KENTUCKY
OPEN MEETINGS LAW THAT ACT
WORKS.
WHAT ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS
PEOPLE CAN FIND OUT?
>> SO MANY THINGS.

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50-YEAR-OLD LAW THAT SAYS PUBLIC
AGENCIES IN KENTUCKY HAVE TO
SHARE MOST OF WHAT THEY HAVE ON
HAND DOCUMENTS, DATA WITH
KENTUCKY RESIDENTS ON REQUEST.
IT'S NOT JUST NOSEY REPORTERS
IT'S ANY CITIZEN WHO WANTS TO
KNOW HOW PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE
SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY.
CAN YOU GET E-MAILS, PAYROLL

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RECORDS, PERSONNEL RECORDS,
INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS, POLICE
TRAFFIC CITATIONS ALL SORTS OF
GOOD STUFF.
THERE ARE A VERY NARROW SET OF
EXEMPTIONS THAT WOULD LIMIT WHAT
AGENCIES WOULD TURNOVER.
SOCIAL SECURITY DATA AND THAT
SORT OF THING AND PRELIMINARY
DOCUMENTS.
BEYOND THAT AGENCIES HAVE FIVE

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BUSINESS DAYS TO RESPOND TO AN
OPEN RECORDS KW-GS.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE NOT
GETTING WHAT YOU NEED BEING
IGNORED YOU CAN APPEAL TO THE
STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
IN FRANKFORT AND TRY TO GET
JUSTICE FROM THEM.
WHEN YOU HAVE A PERSONALITY LIKE
MINE AND NO ONE WANTS TO TALK
TO, THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST

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DOES A LOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE DOING WITH
OUR MONEY.
AND SOME OF THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND THE AGENCIES AND
STATE GOVERNMENT WILL SAY IT'S
ONEROUS FOR THEM TO STOP AND GO
LOOK FOR THE RECORDS FOR PEOPLE.
YOU HEAR THAT PUSHBACK FROM TIME
TO TIME AND YOU SAY?
>> TOUGH GO WORK FOR A SWISS

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BANK YOU WORK FOR GOVERNMENT YOU
DON'T GET TO WORK IN SECRECY.
WE TEED JOHN UP ON
THAT.
YOU HAVE LED THE STATE IN
COVERAGE.
JUVENILE JUSTICE ISSUES NOW THE
BESHEAR ADMINISTRATION HAS
UPDATED SOME REGULATIONS.
AND AUDITOR ALLISON BALL
RESPONDED TO THAT.
WHERE DOES THIS CHANGE THINGS?

(17:40):
>> I'M NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR.
DON'T YOU LIKE HEARING THAT
ANSWER ON LIVE TV.
GOVERNOR BESHEAR SAID HE SIGNED
TWO EMERGENCY REGULATIONS THAT
COVER HOW KIDS ARE TREATED IN
THE STATE JUVENILE DETENTION
CENTERS REGARDING ISOLATION.
HE CALL TO DO RESTRICTIVE
HOUSING IT'S ISOLATION WHEN THEY
ARE LOCKED UP BY THEMSELVES.
WE HAD POLICIES IN PLACE

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REGULATIONS REGARDING TIME
LIMITS AND WHO COULD --
DECIDE HOW LONG THE KIDS ARE
KEPT IN ISOLATION.
AND WHY THEY ARE KEPT IN
ISOLATION.
THESE WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT
THE KIDS' MENTAL HEALTH AND
PHYSICAL WELL-BEING AND IT WAS
NOT USED AS PUNISHMENT OR THEY
WERE NOT LOCKED UP BECAUSE THERE

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WERE NOT ENOUGH STAFF ON HAND.
THE STATE IGNORED THE RULES AND
THE KIDS WERE ABUSED AND
ISOLATION WAS MISUSED.
THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAD A
FINDING THIS TO BE TRUE.
THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNOR NOW
HAS MORE EMERGENCY REGULATIONS
SAYING WE CAN'T DO THIS I HOPE
THEY ARE OBEYED THIS TIME.
THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE DID NOT

(18:45):
PROVIDE INTERVIEWS FOR ME TO ASK
OFFICIALS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE
DIFFERENT SO I CAN'T TELL YOU
THAT FOR A FACT.
WE CAN ONLY HOPE THEY FOLLOW THE
RULES.
THE LEGISLATIVE IS
COMING UP ARE THEY LIKELY TO
TAKE INTEREST IN THIS ISSUE
AGAIN?
>> I HOPE SO.
THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE
BEEN DEALING WITH FOR YEARS.
AND GOVERNOR BESHEAR DROPS OUT A

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LAUNDRY LIST OF REFORMS HE HAS
INCREASED SALARIES AND THAT IS
WONDERFUL.
STAFFING HAS GONE UP AND THAT IS
WONDERFUL.
I'M FINDING WHERE KIDS ARE
GETTING THEIR ARMS BROKEN BY
STAFF AND FINDING WHERE KIDS
HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED BY
STAFF.
IT'S NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM
YET, IS IT?
>> THE HERALD-LEADER DID A STORY

(19:27):
ON ATTORNEY GENERAL RUSSELL
COLEMAN'S PUSH TO RESUME THE
DEATH PENALTY.
JOHN WE LEARNED HE HAS WRITTEN A
LETTER TO GOVERNOR BESHEAR
ASKING HIM TO SIGN THE DEATH
WARRANT OF RALPH MAYS.
>> ATTORNEY GENERAL RUSSELL
COLEMAN RAN FOR OFFICE IN 2023
IN PART ON SUPPORTING THE DEATH
PENALTY YET WE HAVE TWO DOZEN
PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW AND IT'S

(19:49):
FRUSTRATED ATTORNEY GENERAL
COLEMAN THAT WE HAVE NOT
EXECUTED THEM SINCE 2008.
SO EARLIER THIS SUMMER MY
COLLEAGUE REPORTED HE DID
DELIVER TO GOVERNOR BESHEAR A
LETTER SAYING RALPH MAYS IS
CLEAR TO BE EXECUTED.
THERE IS NO FURTHER HINDERANCE.
GOVERNOR BESHEAR RESPONDED THAT

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ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE ISSUES THAT
THE LETHAL INJECTION CHEMICALS
ARE NOT AVAILABLE THE MEDICAL
COMPANIES WILL NOT PROVIDE THEM.
WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE.
2009 WAS THE LAST
EXECUTION ALLEN CHAPMAN PUT TO
DEATH GOVERNOR STEVE BESHEAR
SIGNED THAT DEATH WARRANT.
THE GOVERNOR'S FATHER.
>> AND BESHEAR WHEN CAMPAIGNING

(20:32):
FOR GOVERNOR SAID THAT HE DOES
SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY FOR
CERTAIN CRIMES.
OBVIOUSLY HE SAYS THAT THERE'S
HINDERANCES NOW BUT ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL HE SAID HE IS IN
FACT IN SUPPORT OF THE DEATH
PENALTY.
WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT
GOES IN THE FUTURE.
DOZENS OF KENTUCKY HEMP FARMERS
SIGNED A LETTER TO MITCH
McCONNELL REQUESTING THAT

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CONGRESS THAT CRIMINALIZE THE
SALE OF HEMP DERIVED
CANNABINOIDS AND SYLVIA FARMERS
WANT AN IN-PERSON MEETING MEETIH
MITCH McCONNELL WHO PRESSED TO
LEGALIZE HEMP?
>> NOW WE'RE SIGNS AT THAT TIME
THEY WILL PUSH BUDGET LANGUAGE
THAT WILL TIGHTEN UP THAT

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LOOPHOLE A LITTLE BIT.
AND YOU KNOW, SO FARMERS HEMP
FARMERS ARE PUSHING BACK AGAINST
THAT THEY WANT A MEETING WITH
McCONNELL.
AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, WE
LEARNED THAT THE SEVERAL
REPUBLICAN AND CONGRESSMEN SENT
A LETTER TO SPEAKER JOHNSON
INCLUDING SEVERAL KENTUCKIANS,

(21:35):
BARR, MASSIE, McGARVEY, COMER,
ASKING SPEAKER JOHNSON TO NOT
PURSUE THIS SAME TYPE OF
TIGHTENING OF THAT LOOPHOLE TO
ALLOW THE LEGALIZATION OF HEMP.
SO WE'LL WATCH WATCH
THERE.
YOU REPORTED THIS WEEK THAT
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN MORGAN

(21:55):
MCGARVEY OF LOUISVILLE EXPRESSED
REGRET TO SOME RACIAL JUSTICE
GROUPS FOR HIS VOTE TO HONOR
CHARLIE KIRK.
>> YEAH, I THINK REPRESENTATIVE
McGARVEY DOES NOT HE HAS NO
LOVE FOR KIRK'S RHETORIC THINGS
THAT HE SAID BUT WANTS TO
CONDEMN POLITICAL VIOLENCE AND

(22:15):
FOLLOWING DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP
MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE
MEASURE IN CONGRESS THAN VOTED
AGAINST IT.
AND VOTED PRESENT BUT THAT IS A
VOTE THAT UPSET PEOPLE IN
LOUISVILLE'S BLACK COMMUNITY AND
LOUISVILLE IN GENERAL.
I SPOKE TO THE HEAD OF THE URBAN
LEAGUE AND THE N.A.A.C.P. THEY
TOLD ME McGARVEY CALLED THEM
TO SAY HE REGRETS THE VOTE AND

(22:36):
COMING TO ME AND KNOW I WILL
CLICK THAT OUT AND PUT IT ON THE
FRONT PAGE THEY WANT HIM TO
APOLOGIZE PUBLICLY AND COME OUT
AND SAY THAT HE WAS WRONG.
AND I WAS AT AN EVENT IN THE
WEST END THIS MORNING WHERE
McGARVEY WAS SUPPOSED TO COME
BUT CAUGHT UP WITH LEGISLATIVE
DUTIES SOMETHING ABOUT A
GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.
THAT WAS A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE

(22:58):
THAT RESPECT McGARVEY IS A
WELCOME PRESENCE THERE AND A
ROOM OF PEOPLE THAT WANTED
ANSWERS FROM McGARVEY AND
THERE'S PRESSURE ON HIM TO GIVE
THE ANSWERS PUBLICLY.
YOU ATTEMPTED TO ASK
HIM?
>> SEVERAL TIMES.
JEFFERSON COUNTY
SHERIFF JOHN AUBREY DIED AT AGE

(23:21):
86 HE STARTED SERVING IN 99 HE
ANNOUNCED THAT HE WOULD NOT BE
RUNNING AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
SENATOR McCONNELL A REPUBLICAN
CALLED THE DEMOCRAT AUBREY A
DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT AND
THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ACROSS
THE AISLE ABOUT HIS SERVICE TO
THE COMMUNITY.
THE SHERIFF'S DEATH CREATES
ANOTHER VACANCY THAT WILL NEED
TO BE FILLED BY APPOINTMENT BY

(23:43):
THE METRO LOUISVILLE MAYOR CRAIG
GREENBERG WHO ALSO NEEDS TO FIND
A TEMPORARY REPLACEMENT FOR
BOBBY HOLES CLAW LAID TO REST.
>> IT'S BEEN TOUGH WEEKS IN
LOUISVILLE.
THEY WERE IN OFFICE FOR A
LONGTIME.
AND HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR
CORNER.
SO, MAYOR GREEN BERG HE HAS

(24:05):
DECISIONS TO MAKE I WAS IN THE
WEST END AND AUBREY DIED THIS
WEEK.
IT WAS ROOM IS LEARLY OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN A LOT OF WAYS
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM
HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO
SAY IT WAS A DIFFICULT DEATH FOR
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND MAYOR GREENBERG WILL MAKE
THE APPOINTMENTS HE HAS NOT DONE
IT YET THEY WILL BE IN PLACE

(24:25):
UNTIL THE ELECTION NEXT YEAR AND
PRIMARIES ARE UNDERWAY FOR BOTH
SEATS.
NO ONE IS IN THE ROLES YET.
STAY TUNED.
DO YOU THINK THE MAYOR
IS GETTING A LOT OF PRESSURE AS
TO WHO TO APPOINT?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT YES, I
CERTAIN FACTIONS HAVE PEOPLE
THEY ARE SUPPORTING AND THESE
APPOINTMENTS THAT WILL BE IN
PLACE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE

(24:47):
THERE IS AN END DATE.
BUT, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL
BE IN THAT OFFICE FOR A WHILE.
YES, I WOULD SAY SO.
IT LOOKS LIKE MORE
KENTUCKIANS WILL BE GOING ON
WAIT LISTS FOR MEALS AND
PROGRAMS.
YOU REPORTED AND LOOKED INTO
THAT THIS WEEK.
>> RIGHT.
SO THESE PROGRAMS ARE LARGELY

(25:08):
DONE THROUGH AREA DEVELOPMENT
DISTRICTS THE BESHEAR
ADMINISTRATION SENT A LETTER TO
THE DIRECTORS OF THESE
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS AND TOLD
THEM THAT THE ADDED FUNDING THEY
HAVE BEEN GETTING BESHEAR HAS
BEEN MAKING UP A LOSS THROUGH
HIS OWN BUDGET THAT THEY WOULD
NO LONGER BE ABLE TO GET THAT
MONEY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR WHAT
THEY GOT IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING

(25:29):
TO GET.
A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN
COUNTING ON MONEY TO ELIMINATE
THE WAIT LIST FOR SENIOR MEALS
WILL NO LONGER HAVE THAT OPTION
HE IS MAKING THE CUTS IN
ANTICIPATION OF A SHORTFALL.
THAT MEANS THOUSANDS OF KENTUCKY
SENIORS WILL GO BACK ON A WAIT
LIST FOR MEALS.
ANTICIPATE PRESSURE ON

(25:51):
THE LEGISLATURE?
>> I IMAGINE THAT.
THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF
HOLES TO FILL WITH FEDERAL CUTS
IT DEPENDS WHAT THE CAPACITY IS.
THEY DID PUT MORE MONEY THERE'S
BEEN HISTORIC FUNDING LEVELS ALL
THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTORS WERE CLEAR BUT THEY
HAVE HOLES TO FILL, CAN THEY

(26:12):
MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL OF FUNDING.
KENTUCKY HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS WILL BE TAKING THE SAT
FOR THE COLLEGE ENTRANCE EXAM
THAT STARTS THIS YEAR FOR 20
YEARS AFTER THE ACT THAT WAS
REQUIRED FOR HIGH SCHOOL
JUNIORS.
THAT CONTRACT EXPIRED THIS WEEK.
PUBLIC RADIO REPORTS THE NEW
CONTRACT COULD SAVE THE STATE UP
TO $350,000 A YEAR.

(26:34):
THAT'S COMMENT.
HAVE A GOOD WEEK AHEAD.

(26:58):
[Knocking]
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