May 15, 2025 • 46 mins
In this captivating episode of Kickin' It With KeKe, we welcome the multi-talented Ace Champion, a culinary artist and meditative flute musician, who takes us on a journey through his dual passions. Ace shares his inspiring story of how he discovered his love for cooking and music, and how he has woven these seemingly different careers into a harmonious tapestry that reflects his life's philosophy.
Ace delves into his early days in the kitchen and the pivotal moments that sparked his passion for becoming a chef. He discusses the creative process behind crafting exquisite dishes and how cooking serves as a form of expression and meditation for him. Listeners will gain insight into the parallels Ace draws between the art of cooking and the soothing melodies of his flute music.
Throughout the episode, Ace reveals the profound impact that both culinary arts and music have had on his personal and professional growth. He shares anecdotes and life lessons learned from both worlds, illustrating how they have helped him maintain balance and find peace in the chaos of everyday life.
Join KeKe and Ace Champion for an engaging conversation filled with laughter, wisdom, and inspiration as they explore the beautiful symphony of flavors and sounds that define Ace's unique journey. Whether you're a food enthusiast, music lover, or simply seeking a dose of positivity, this episode is sure to resonate with your soul.
Tune in now to discover how Ace Champion is living a life rich in flavor and melody, and how you, too, can find harmony in your own passions.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kickin-it-with-keke-life-love-all-that-other-sh-t--5060376/support.
Ace delves into his early days in the kitchen and the pivotal moments that sparked his passion for becoming a chef. He discusses the creative process behind crafting exquisite dishes and how cooking serves as a form of expression and meditation for him. Listeners will gain insight into the parallels Ace draws between the art of cooking and the soothing melodies of his flute music.
Throughout the episode, Ace reveals the profound impact that both culinary arts and music have had on his personal and professional growth. He shares anecdotes and life lessons learned from both worlds, illustrating how they have helped him maintain balance and find peace in the chaos of everyday life.
Join KeKe and Ace Champion for an engaging conversation filled with laughter, wisdom, and inspiration as they explore the beautiful symphony of flavors and sounds that define Ace's unique journey. Whether you're a food enthusiast, music lover, or simply seeking a dose of positivity, this episode is sure to resonate with your soul.
Tune in now to discover how Ace Champion is living a life rich in flavor and melody, and how you, too, can find harmony in your own passions.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/kickin-it-with-keke-life-love-all-that-other-sh-t--5060376/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Chicken and Kiki kicking it you Ki Ki
kicking the ki Ki for a little personality, switching up
the storyline on God we making that story and one
day at the time much problems to the side. Enjoy yourself,
(00:26):
free your mind, Chicken Ki, keep what's up, y'all, and
welcome to another episode of Kicking at with Kiki, Life,
Love and all the other ship. I am your host,
Kiki Shanel, Award winning author, lifestyle blogger, and certified life coach.
(00:50):
Today I am with a special guest, someone that I've
known for a very long time, and he is coming
and kicking with me today. But you guys know how
I like to do. I like to give my guests
the opportunity to introduce themselves. So, hey, friend, how what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Class base?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Listen? Tell the people who you are, what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Awesome? Yeah, well, you know they call me Ace now
so hey back in the day.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But yeah, I mean, I'm definitely a graduate from the
wonderful Saint Alena in Greensburg and graduated nineteen ninety five
and been living out here in Green Bay, Wisconsin, you know,
and just had to move out here to try and
live a better life for the family, you know, get
(01:38):
some good opportunities, and which is great because they don't
cook out here, and I cook. So you know, I
started I teach cookie classes, I do private and home dinners.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I have my own cooking show on quite a few channels.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And then recently, about two years ago, I started playing
music really for relaxation and to help with anxiety and
dressed and all these other mental disorders.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I absolutely love it because it calms me down.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know, growing up the way we grew up, you know,
I used to punch holes in walls to release my anger,
and you know that just made it worse. So so
this really really helps to give me an outlet.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So I love it. I love that. I'm so proud
of you, and thank you for coming to kicking with me.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Today, my pleasure. I'm proud of you too.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I appreciate it. I appreciated Lizzy shout out the Greensburg
two of its home. People like living a dream of
making their their dreams of reality. So we're going to
get into life a little bit. Okay, now, you just
talked about how you cook and shout out to the packers.
(02:49):
That's my team.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Don't yeah, say he and I cooked for them too,
so you know quite a few of them.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Listen, don't have me to come visit.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Cook some They introduced you to a couple of packers.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Here you go. Yes, So I want to get into
talk about life, love and all on the podcast. Right,
So we're gonna talk a little bit about your love
for food. When did you know that you had a
passion for food?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Actually, my first job was PT truck stopping amen and
I got hired on as a dishwasher and one of
the cooks didn't want to cook my food. He was like,
you cook it. I'm like, man, I can't cook. He
was like, just watch me. And I watched this one
man cook football. It had to be about thirty forty
people in there. And I mean, I think the thing
(03:44):
that impressed me the most was how cool he was
to see someone in the midst of chaos and just
be just cool as ice and putting the orders out.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I said, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So then when I when I actually started cooking, I
first fell in love with it. Adrenaline rush, because there's
something about when there's a pack house and there's all
this cast and you're putting out orders ten minutes at
a time like that really stimulates me very well. But
then as I actually started to see the response at
what people got when they eat, I think that's what
(04:16):
I most fell in love with, you know, to know
that that table over there, that family that's laughing and
having a good time. I played a big role in
that because the food is what they came there for.
So that's really what sparked my passion to know that
I wanted to cook. It's just unfortunately the restaurants kind
of a joke, you know what I mean, I'll be
(04:37):
honest with you. I mean, the pay is bad, the
hours has paid.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I was that close to walking away because I just
you know, once I got my degree and everything like
that in culinary, I just thought this can't be it.
And that's when I started to start on my own
LLC and start to work for myself. And I've been
fifteen years now self employed and thank.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
God, I go.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I haven't had to work a part time job to
sustain it. It's been all just self made money.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And sometimes you just have to know that if it's
aligned to your purpose, God will make a way. You
just have to take the steps and you keep taking steps.
So keep taking those steps, and God is gonna continue
to bless you. It looks good on you. I just
want to let you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Thank you, thank you. It feels good. It feels good.
You know when someone's leaving their purpose, you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Know, absolutely, they just glow. We glow different, We go
through life different, and I love it. How does your
love for food influence your relationships and interactions with others?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well, really mainly when I started doing the cooking class part.
So you know, when I was cooking in the restaurants
and stuff like that, a lot of times I didn't
even see the people. You know, they table ten say
good job, that's about it. But when I started doing
private in home dinners, I mean I meet people for
the first time, and when I leave there, it's like family.
(05:59):
I mean, like invite me over for Thanksgiving, for Christmas.
You think that I've known them forever because these people
are opening up their homes and almost ten out of
ten times they've never experienced a private chef. So for
me to come in and get the little four year
old and have her help me make mac and cheese,
and you know, get everybody involved, like I get them
(06:21):
all involved, so it really gives them an experience that
they'll remember forever, you know. And then on the cooking
class part, you know, there's so many people it ain't
like Louisiana and Louisiana you know, you frying chicken and folk,
you know what I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Not out here. I mean, they truly have lost the
art of cooking.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So you know, in reality, I'm helping these people save
their lives. You know, be honest with you, because I
coach a lot of people that you know, need to
be on special diets.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They just don't know how to make it taste good.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So then when I come in and I know that
I can't just teach them, I have to like motivate
them and inspire them and really like spark something in them.
And to see that spark when you know, you got
a sixty five year old man that's like, I ain't
cooking it, but let the woman cook that type and
all of a sudden, he tagging me on Facebook age
look what I made?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Look what I made.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know that that just brings me so much joy,
you know absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I love that. I love that. I love watching you
talk about it because you just light up so for
the people that's listening going over to the YouTube channel
so you can see his expressions when he's talking about
this this passion of food and you know, interacting with
people because where we come from in Louisiana, like I,
people know how to throw down oh yeah, oh yeah,
(07:42):
So cooking was like a way of life for us.
And to come across people who just don't have that
type of foundation, how do you motivate them to even
start that with their own families?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You really, you really, it all starts with the education.
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I have to make it look you know, And the
problem with some of the chefs these days is they
let the ego get the best of them. So they
want to take a simple, you know, sauce and make
it seem like, oh you gotta do this, you gotta
do to make themselves look big. Versus me, I'm like,
oh no, it's so simple. All you gotta do is
boo boo boo. And when I make it seem that simple,
(08:21):
you see the people be like, oh it really is
not that hard. So really it's me making the education
for them so simple to where like like literally I
can have a seven year old coming there who ain't
never cooked before, and she ain't there throwing down with
me because I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like, oh, not hold it like this.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know, sometimes I gotta hold their hand, like literally,
I gotta hold they hand, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But but they get it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You know, they really just lack the fundamentals of.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Cooking from scratch. You know.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
They can cook like they can take something out the box.
I hope they don't hear me say this about that.
They had all like that, they'd all like that. There's
a lot of processed food, eating, eating out the restaurants,
fast food. There's a lot of that going on out here,
you know, And just trying to encourage them that, you know,
now you get to put something healthy in your body
(09:12):
because you know all the ingredients you're putting in there,
and you get to sit down at the table with
your family and break bread versus you know, when you
go out. You know, kids got even Donald's in the room,
mom in the kitchen. You know, everybody eating separate. So
I'm trying to like bring it back to the old
schools where we can all sit down and talk about
what happened to school, you know. But the food gotta
(09:34):
be good though, you know, yeah, don't nobody want to
talk if it's nasty.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Right, all the conversation is going to lead.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And what ways do you find cooking similar to love?
Both in practice and it's emotional impact on the lives
that you touch as well as your own.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
See, you know, you know that's funny because you know
that's the I wrote a book in twenty thirteen, Eight
Steps to Your Perfect Meal, and that is the eighth
step is love. And it's funny because oh yeah, oh yeah,
oh yeah. My first book was I didn't want to
do a recipe book. I wanted to do a book
that gave people the tips, because recipe ain't gonna do
(10:20):
you no good if you don't know the fundamentals, you know.
So when I talk about love, I always compare Grandma's
cooking my mom's cooking. You know how you always say, man,
she puts some love in that. Or in Louisiana we
say they put their foot in it. But we also
say love, you know. And I tell people that love
is a serious emotion because I'm a firm believer like
(10:41):
the law of attraction, but you think about you attract.
So if I'm making this food and I'm thinking about
how much they're gonna enjoy it. Oh, they're gonna love
when I hook them up with this, you know, I'm
thinking of mom putting all that into the food. When
they eat that, they eat that energy that I put
in there. And that's where what the grandma's do when
they make the food. They spend twelve thirteen hours making
(11:03):
all this pies. They ain't doing it because they love
to sweat in the kitchen for thirteen hours. They doing
it because they know they gonna bring their family together,
which is love, and they know that they're gonna get
it back, you know what I mean, Because that's how
love works.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You give it, you receive it, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So I teach people that I teach people to, you know,
and I don't mean love like being conceited. I mean
love like you know, love cooking, and not love like
the cooking process, but love the outcome that you're doing.
Love the fact that, okay, I'm doing something healthy for
my body. Love the fact that okay, I'm cooking for
my family. Now I'm giving them something instead of just
(11:41):
here's ten dollars to go to McDonald's. You know, you participating,
you know, so That's why love plays a huge role
in pretty much everything I do, especially cooking.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, I love that, Yes, you have to. Like I love.
I don't cook as much as I would want to
because the way that I work, it's just ridiculous. But yeah,
it's rough when I do. That is my whole intention.
I'm cooking this with love so that my family can
experience that, they can taste it when they see the
presentation versus the flavor that you put in. You have
(12:15):
to take some type of thought and behind preparing meals nowadays,
because like you said, fast food is so easy, and
they just pretty much giving it away because they know
that it's so harmful to your body. You know, why
not take a take an extra step by going to
the grocery store, yes, and getting the ingredients and then
coming it back and creating something that you know that
(12:38):
is healthy because you're putting everything in yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes, And I always tell people when you do cook,
because I know it's rough, cook a big batch up,
you know, because then you got lunch the next day,
and then you can freeze it. People forget remember when
COVID hit, everyone was buying canned beans.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm like y'all know, y'all like the meat was just
rotting on the grocery store. I bet y'all can buy
some steaks and free he said. Stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know, now, you can't just freeze a piece of chicken,
throw it out and eat a piece of chicken. No,
you gotta shred that up, Make some chicken tacos, make
some chicken casse toy, you know, get creative to where
So now every time you go into the kitchen and
you cook a good meal, it doesn't feel like you're
starting from scratch.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You have a little bit of a backbone.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Absolutely, some type of foundation to grow from. I love it.
Can you share a memorable experience when a dish you
created brought people together in a meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's so video of them. I mean literally every time.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I go to these people's homes and cook, I mean
it's like I would say, I had to honor the
cook for someone's sixtieth anniversary, and they were like eighty something,
almost ninety years old.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
All their kids was there, their grandkids was there. I
think one of the grand kids had a kid.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
There, you know, and they didn't want to go out
to eat because you got all the hustle and bustle
all around it. They just want an intimate moment, but
they wanted a spectacular meal. And me, being a private
chef in Green Bay, I'm like the only one I
knew I had a niche. When the first day I
got my LLC, I was ranked number two.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Like, I don't rank number two.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I ain't even I ain't got my website up because
no one does it. So to be able to bring
that experience to this sixty year anniversary, and because you
don't know that could have been, you know, their last
bet that was a memorable I just thought of another
memorable one that I'll shared with you.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I don't mean to give you two, but I got
to give you this one, Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So it was a brother that had He was real,
real sick, and he always did the cooking and he
wanted someone else to do it. And his brother reached
out to me and had me do it, and he
had pacific.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
This is how it's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So I went over there, I cooked state lobster, big
old meal, and and I played my music for them all,
and they all came into the living room and sat
around this this guy that was getting ready to pass
He passed awaited the next day, and I was like, wow,
just to know that I was able to give them
(15:16):
that memorable moment of relaxing music and the good food
and the breaking bread ver you you. The only other
option was to order out. That would not have been
the same ordering Jimmy John's pizza, you know. So that
was probably my most emotional memory. He literally called me
the next day he said he literally held on for
(15:38):
that one experience.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Wow, that just gave me chills. Oh my good And
I love hearing stuff like that because it was an
impactful moment for not just yourself, with that that family.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The family. Yes, yes, yes, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We're gonna switch gears a little bit and we're gonna
talk about both of them. How do you balance the
demands of your career with your personal life and relationships.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I made my career my hobby, so if I
had other hobbies on top of my career, I'll be
all over the place.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So if I.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Want to take a trip up north to the beautiful
Doric County that they got up there, I would literally book.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
An event up there.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
So then one I ain't got stress about spend any
money because you know, that's always the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And I'll work from like.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Eight to ten two hours, and then I got two
days off and they don't put me up in a
hotel for two days. They done gave me all these expenses,
so I get to have fun, but I'm still working,
you know what I mean. So that's a huge part
of it. I did play semi pro football for about
seventeen years. When brother got old, you know what I'm saying,
I had to give that up, and so I just
(16:59):
really just poured myself into the cooking part. And I
do love it, and I do I do love the
reaction that I get from people. So to bring that
personal into my bus and I know they say, don't
mixed business.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
With pleasure and all that kind of stuff. She might not.
You know, if it works time. If it worked, it
don't work for everybody. It don't work for me.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Nice And I think it's important to have that work
life balance so that you don't get burned out or
your family don't feel like that are being neglected and
things like that, because when you are trying to provide
for your family, you have to work the bills. The
bills will be there, and so we have to make
sure that I know. For me, I have to make
(17:45):
sure that I'm setting aside when it's when I when
I'm leaving my office, work is left there, and when
I walk into my living room, I am home and
my family can feel my presence. Because I love interaction
with the people that I love. I love meaningful experiences.
I don't like small talk. So when I have an
opportunity to be present, fully present in the moment, all
(18:11):
I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna make sure that
they know that I'm there. What is a dish that
represents your idea of love? And why?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh? I would say, you know, and I make so many.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I have over one hundred items on my menu, but
I would say my New Orleans bread pudding with my
whiskey cream sauce.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And not that it's the best dessert that I make.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's just because it's such comfort food, you know, and
out here they drink a lot. So like when I
say whiskey cream sauce, Oh my lord, you just thought
i'd put some liquid gold up in there. I mean,
just the response that you get from people, you know,
it just I mean I have people eat it and
be like man, I feel like I'm home, you know,
and the year that it's like okay, okay, just because
(18:55):
it's so comforting and they don't get real bread puts
then out here. You know, I went to a restaurant
when I came out here, and they had the nerve
to put wonderbread slices and vanilla pudding. That's what I said,
welcome to What's GANSI And so you can imagine pulling
bread out of pudding. I'm like, I don't even know
why they say putting because the ain't nothing putting about it, right,
(19:19):
So you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wow, Yeah, I love that. I love it. I'm not
I'm not rid of a big fan of bread pudding,
but I did find some like a couple of years
ago that I love and it was made it is
made out of Krispy Kreme donuts. So it was delicious,
and it's like, I'm like, I know it's unhealthy, but
(19:47):
if I had to eat it, I'm gonna eat it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean, I mean, I mean, in reality, the only
thing that's not healthy about it I used less brown sugar.
See when I worked in the Louisiana restaurant, I can
tell you why you might not like it. As they're
eating making sandwiches, they have a tub at the bottom
and they throw all the.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
End pieces of the bread.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's what they used to make bread, putting the nasty
end pieces that nobody wants.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
See how I love that French bread, real bread.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But I love the M pieces. I love the M pieces.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
See I know some people do love it. I'm not
a fan. I'm not. I want that soft, creamy bread.
I don't want that the same way.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Pieces save me. The M pieces, like the N pieces,
hold the whole thing together, and without fling it would
be nothing, it would be falling apart.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So yeah, I guess, so, I guess. So we'll save
the ball for you.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, all right, so let's change Let's change gears. Let's
change gears. We're gonna talk about music. Now we've talked
about the cooking side, we'll talk about the music. Good Buffalo,
How did he come about? And why? Why do you?
Why do you? Why the name? Let's put it like that,
How did good Buffalo come about? And what inspired the name?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Good question? Good question.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So as I'm getting older, I'm starting to realize that
I'm more than the color of my skin. You know,
and Louisiana, they're just like you black, You're black. I'm like, well,
black ain't even a race, that's just a color in
the crown. By what do you mean by that? And
I never really know my heritage. I just know my
mom and my grandmother. Come to find out, both grandmothers
(21:33):
are both sides of Cherokee Indian full blooded. And I'm like, okay,
well I knew all these light skinning people, you know,
they got to be more into the story. They just
like black, they mixed with something. So as I'm getting older,
I'm starting to embrace because I want to embrace.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
My first album is called Know Thyself, you know, so
I want to know all about myself, not my.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Personality, but my DNA too as well.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So ironically, I was at one of those local night
US one stops and I was demoing Buffalo and a
chief from Las Vegas came in and he was so
impressed because you know, I marinated it. I put the
Cajun season on it. He's like, I ain't never had
nothing like this before. And I felt and this is
(22:17):
before I even started playing music. I'm like, I feel
like I need a spiritual name. And he went back
to Vegas. He went into his tent. He said he
meditated for like two days, and he came back and
he said, good Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
At first, I was kind.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Of like, man, I wanted to be like good wolf
for good tiger, you know, I want to be you know. Yeah,
And then when I looked up what does buffalo mean?
So the buffalo is one of the few animals that
when the storm comes, instead of running away from the storm,
it puts his head down and goes through the storm
(22:54):
because he knows the quickest way through that storm is
to move through it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm like, dog call it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's me right there, because I didn't have so many
challenges moving out here, and I literally just put the
head down and just go through it and go through
the you know, it's hard, you know what I mean,
But I just go through it and I always come out.
I feel like I always come out first, you know.
So that's when that name stick with me. So then
when the music came, you know, everyone's like, what's your
(23:19):
stage name? And I'm like, well, Ace is my name.
But it did really make Ace meditation. You know, football
worked great, but this I'm like, I'm gonna go with
good Buffalo. And first I was a little nervous saying
it because you know, out here people were like good Buffalo,
you know, they make a little fun or whatever. But
then it just stuck. And then now, I mean they
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introduced it. I was just at the Music Awards. I
was one of the finalists and they they they don't
even say Ace no more. It's it's good Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
They except it. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
So I'm gonna roll with that until this life is
is no more.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, I love that. I love that. So what similarities
do you see between composing music and experience and love.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Well, see, the music allows me to express my soul
and my heart to others. I learned non traditional, so
I didn't learn through sheet music, which is most people
that play instruments, they do.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
The sheet music.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But the problem with that is every time they play,
they play someone else's song. Someone wrote that song for them.
So the old school, most of the flutes that I play,
some of them go back fifteen thousand years. I mean
they're so ancient and back then they didn't have sheet
music in papers and all. In orchestra, they literally drill
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some holes in a piece of bed and figured out
how to make it sound good, and they sit and
they played from their art. They call it. In Chinese culture,
it's called suiz. So that's blowing and playing from your soul.
So then when people will hear me, they literally get
a chance to express and to feel my soul because
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I don't know what I'm playing. I just closed my
eyes and whatever comes to me, that's what comes out.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And they feel that.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I mean, they cry, they say they're inspired, they say
some people say their life is on a different path.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now. I had a one lady, she was almost eighty
years old.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I was playing an African drum and she said, that
was the first time I didn't feel angry. I felt
like I belonged on this earth and here this woman
been here eighty years. Wow, that's the love that I'm
able to bring because I'm able to express my love
through the music my soul.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Wow, that was so deep. For the first time in
eighty years, she felt like she belonged while she was angry.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And this was the white lady.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
This wasn't like, you know, a black person living in
a white world trying know she she you know, all
her peers or all just like her. She just didn't
feel because those the music is so ancient to where
even if you've never heard it before, you're gonna feel like, man,
I feel this because in reality, it's in your DNA.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You're great great great great great great great great.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Great grandmother or grandfather probably knew this type of music.
You just didn't hear it, but it's in your DNA.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Right absolutely. Can you describe a song you've written that
whole significant personal meaning related to life.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, my first song that I wrote was the name
of my album, Know thy Self.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And to be clear, I don't technically write songs, so
it's not traditional. Normally a musician will go in there,
they'll write it all out on paper, they'll practice it
like fifty million times before they record it. When I
record my first album, I literally took my cell phone.
I didn't even have a speaker and none of my
phone and put it right next and I close my
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eyes and I thought of the moment, like how do
I feel?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And I just play it.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And then once I play it and I'm editing and
I'm listening to it, the names come to me, you know,
you know, Spirit of the Soul or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
The names just come to me.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I am actually right now writing my fourth album, you know,
with about twelve fourteen songs in each one. So know
thatyself was the biggest connection because it wasn't just a song.
It's a message, you know, that I want people to
know because they don't. People a lot of times these days,
they don't really know theirself. They know this ego that
they try and present. But I always tell people, if
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if you put on a different mask when you go
to work and when you go to church, and when
you go out with your friends and when you come home,
if these are all different.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
People, you don't know yourself at all. You're not being yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Neither, right, you know, So to find your true self
and trust that some people might not like your true self,
and that's okay, you know, but it's very important to
release that soul from his body and let it express itself.
I was able to do that, and it's just been
a magical journey because I'm doing things that I never
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in a million years thought i would be playing an
instrument yet alone, meditative flutes from China and Ukraine and
all these different exoety but I played the multiple different
ones because the message is if I can bring all
these cultures together and play these flutes and make them
all sound harmonious, like they belong together, how is that
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any different than how the world should be. Everything's so
separate now, you know, Chinese people over here, black over here,
white over here, Mexican over here. No one's wanting to
like dance together anymore. So I'm trying to bring that
back through the music.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I love that, and music is like a love language
of mind. It has helped me through so many challenges.
And I know a couple of years ago I have
went on a spiritual journey that helped me heal from loss,
and I found out so much stuff about myself. So
as you became a musician and playing all of these
different divice, you know, instruments and things like that, encountering
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different people and giving them different experiences, how has it
helped your life when you come when it comes to
mental help wise? Because I know, you know we all
have some form of anxiety and mental illnesses not talked about,
especially in our community. So but how has your love
for music and making people feel good helped you stay
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in a good hitspace.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
As I see that, I'm actually resurrecting these people's cultures.
I mean perfect example, in January, I played for the
Chinese New Year. I'm the only brother there. They I'm
dressed up in Chinese atower. They think I'm a costume person.
They think I'm like entertainment, go dance around. I'm like,
oh no, I'm fish to play some Chinese instruments. And
then I'm playing these instrum and I'm like, have you
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ever heard of the Chinese show?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So I was like, none of these people don't even
know these is they instruments, but because they're so Americanized,
they forgot. So it's like being able to help them remember.
It really gives me a full purpose. And then as
far as for myself, it is amazing. When I say,
Kiki is amazing. Like if you think of this, whenever
you get upset, what do they tell you.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Take a deep breath, calm down, relax.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I have to do that to play these flutes, and
like the Chinese, Japanese flutes, the shakahachi, this is what
the Buddhist monks play, this is what the Samurai warriors
play to get into these different states of conscience. And
I understand why because every time I play, I have
to take a deep breath in, I have to type
my stomach muscles. I have to hold it and release
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it as slow as possible. Well, what that's doing is
that's leaving the oxygen in my body more.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's zenim it.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
When I'm done, I might play for There's sometimes I
play for lie five hours straight and I'm talking about,
ain't a stress in the world.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I could literally have the worst day.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'll come upstairs, I put on my headphones, I'll pick
that flute up and within seconds, I'm talking like thirty
forty seconds, it's gone. Because I studied not just the music,
but I study how frequency and sound affects the body
when you're dealing on a on a on a micro level,
and it works for all. My daughter will call me
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in and all the babies will be just crying, and
all they won't shut up. She threatens them now and says,
Papa gonna get them flutes. And I'm talking about when
I hit them with the flutes. I mean it's like
I slapped them with the vibrations and they just and
then about five minutes later they all.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Sleep sleep, yes, you.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Know, And that brings me joy to know that you know,
there's other options.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I mean, you know, we grew up there, like running
vacuum cleaner. I don't want to hear no vacuum cleaner,
you know, can you know?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Or they played piano music or something something that has
its own frequency, but I understand, you know, are you
familiar with the chakra system? Yeah, so each seven crimematic
musical note is connected to the chota. So when people
are like, oh, I'm having heart issues, We'll let me
go get my kia F you know what I'm saying,
Or I'm having digestive stomach, well, let me get my
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kiya D.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And it works, It really works. It's just a matter
of getting people to believe it, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
And that's the thing though, we are so close minded
about the things that we don't know. And I know
when I started liking, like, you know, zen work and
yoga and getting to know myself on a more spiritual
level through meditation and stuff like that, I had to
explain to some family members just because I'm meditating, that
does not mean that I'm trying to conjure up any
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type of spirits or if you go into something with
a negative outcome or a negative intention. Guess what you're
gonna get. You don't get that if you go through life,
moving through any thing with love and good attention, positivity
and spiritual growth and fulfillment, that's what you're gonna get.
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So you know, I used to suffer from my grains
all the time. Started when I was fifteen years old.
But to know, the more I learned about the shock
wards and the different pressure points on the body and
how frequency is to listen to, I don't get them
as much as I used to because I'm tapped into that.
I know how to press myself right here or something
and then close my eyes and take myself to a
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different place, and I'm coming to mind so that the
blood can flow freely and it just releases all of
those negative toxins and all the other stuff, and that
energy just flows out of you. So I love that
I'm married.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You just did the perfect example of my album Know Thyself.
You knew, you know what you need to do to
fix it, versus people just complain about it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh my head hurt. What you're gonna do about it?
You know?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
They did the same way when I played the flutes,
but look I hit them with the Bible. I'm like,
they're like, well, you know, we don't get you know,
I was trying to get into the churches.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I'm like, let me play some of this music. They're like,
oh no, that's that's that's the devil. I'm like, wait,
hold on, now, hold on now.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Let me get my liar heart that King David played.
Let me get my trumpet that the angels played. Let
me get my flute that this person played. They like, oh,
I'm like, you think they had a drum set in
the middle of the Middle East back in two thousand BC.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You think they had an organ out there.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Let me bring you back to the original music that
Jesus was listening to.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay, I want to hear that.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
They don't want to hear that, because what were we
supposed to hear?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
This is what they listened to two thousand years ago?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Okay. Yeah, And I love, I love, I love. I
love to hear you talk about that because they say
the same thing about crystals and stuff like that, and
it's all from the earth, but it's all about how
you perceive it. I got my anthist and I got
a table for right.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, that's my burstone. Yes, yeah, because God don't make
no junk. Everything has value.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm like, why can they Why can they use crystals
to power your TV and power your watches and make
weapons of mass destructure. They're using the same crystals. The
first radio was broadcast through a freaking crystal. But yet
I want the means of the earth calm me. Well,
guess if God has something dis he wouldn't have made
us of crystals because we have the copper in our body.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We have the zinc that's in our body.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
So if I want to wear a zinc necklace, can
you explain to me what is wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Because it is in my body and God created me.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
But you're right, it's because they don't know and they
don't have the knowledge, and they fear what they don't know,
and don't.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Get us That's exactly, And don't get us wrong. There
is for everything that is good, there is something that's
not good. So they do have people out there that's
using things that are supposed to be beautiful for something
that's negative and evil. Don't buy into that. Ask God
to protect you, protect you from all of that, and
you shall pete protect it.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, everything has side.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Everything We can heal you and food can kill you.
A gun can protect you, and a gun can kill you.
It's all about your intentions. You said that right on
the money.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, So what how do you navigate the
challenges of maintaining professional and personal relationships when it comes
to pursuing your music career. Have you found any challenges?
I know you just talked about one of not being
able to go into churches and through the stuff like that,
But have you found any other challenges when you informed
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like your family, Hey, I'm getting ready to tap into
a new career right here.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I mean, be honest with you, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I you know, I just separated myself from those people.
If you ain't on my vibe, then we just I
don't care if you're my first cousin, second cousin. It
just it is what it is. I can't let you
push me off the boat, you know. So the people
that are in my circle, really it's just my mom,
my sister, you know, my wife, my kids. You know,
they've all been real, real supportive. None of them knew
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it was gonna turn into such a career. They just like, oh,
look at Ace. He got a little flute, you know,
he trying to play a little something so and then
all of a sudden, I'm on the news for mental
health Awareness Day, you know, because it I'm telling you
that the first first time I picked up and blew
into the flute, I knew it was gonna be I
looked at my wife for said, I'm gonna be a
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famous flute player, and not famous because I want to
be on TV, famous because I want this message out
to the world. And I would tell people that and
at first they would laugh because you know, I wasn't good.
But then they remember when I told them I was
gonna be on TV and have my own cooking show too,
So they was.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like, okay, well you said that, you did that.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What they didn't realize is I got a little bit
of an exception obsession from him, which makes me practice
every day most music this you know, you thirty minutes here,
thirty minutes when they can in between breaks. Oh no,
I'm every day. If I can't sleep at night, I
picked the flute up and play for an hour. I'll
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be playing the flute and be dozen off, you know,
and then I'll go to sleep. So the amount of
time that I put into it really has just made
my career expand. So now when people were like, you know,
I got to kick back. You know, oh what, you're
trying to be a musician, but you don't want to
cook no more. So I had to educate them and
be like, no, I don't have to be as the
chef for the rest of my life. And that's why
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I think people go wrong. They get this one identity
you the doctor. So what that's all you good for?
That's your purpose in life is just to be a doctor.
Why can't you be a musician too? Why can't you
play a sport or do anything? Because we just train
and just like the B movie. You see the B movie,
pick your one job for the rest of your life
and be happy with it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm like, I refuse right absolutely, because you missed out
on different columns that you are attached to. Your purpose
is big to you. And when people understand their purpose,
they know that I have different layers to this purpose.
And it's about helping others tap into a new mindset
to understand that hey, you can have this too. Yes, yes,
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but this has been amazing. So we know that you
are a chef, we know that you are an artists,
we know that you are an author and all the things.
So tell the listeners how they can support you. Where
you hang out on social media? How can we get
the album, the books, all the things. Go ahead and
plug Ace Good Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah yeah yeah right right yeah, well, I mean, you know,
you can definitely go onto my website Chefchampion dot com.
I have everything on there. All my social media handles
are on there. My YouTube channel on demand videos, you know.
My my YouTube channel for my music is Good Buffalo
Spirit eleven eleven, you know, Facebook, Ace Champion, you know,
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and just check it out. You know, my albums are
on there. I make them really cheap for you to
do a digital down. I ain't got no CDs. People
like where you see these at? I'm like, where your
CD player at? First of all? You know, so I
have it on digital download. They can download right today phone,
and I just encourage people, you know, just to listen
to it. You ain't got to like turn meditation relaxing
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music on once you get all crazy, like you're kind
of too late. You want to like incorporate in your
every day just music repertoire. You know, when you go
into bed, play that music when you get up in
the morning. Play that music that's going to set the tone,
and eventually your cells are going to start getting used
to that common frequency and the body has to follow
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and then you'll be calm. But if you want to
listen to the rap game and rock music and all
this up here, that's where all the stress is. I'm sorry,
you know, and stresses is very dangerous. People don't realize,
and especially in our culture. I mean, we be stressing.
I mean all the time and that and I tell
people that that's really this flight or fight stage. You know,
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you're releasing all this quartisol in your body. And then
you wonder why you sick all the time. You think
it's because something you ate, because you got a cold.
Now it's all that negative energy that is a real
thing that's just built up and you have no way
to release it. So it's releasing itself through a disease
or through a running nose or whatever that might be.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Absolutely, listen, man, we have so much in coming. I'm
so excited that I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
That's awesome, because I guarantee you if we go down
to Greensbury, hey, we might not find too many people
on a level that we all right now and everybody.
Everybody's got their purpose and they got their time and
stuff like that. But I'm glad that you you found
the crystals and you found the act pressure, and you
learned about the chakras. And it's like you know that
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that's that's that's you like, it's it's And then they
say chakras, Oh, that's all because the Buddhists thought of it.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
No, when you look at it, it's really an energy center.
These are things.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
This is no different than me talking about my heart,
are no different than me talking about my lungs. It's
just on a more of a smaller level that we
just weren't taught about.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Or it's called something different. It has caused something different,
and it's not referred to as a chakra. It's referred
to as what it is. Like you said, you know,
they call it.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Energy centers or the medical term.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
But yeah, but it's like again when people don't know,
when they don't know, they don't know, and they're afraid
to become open for fear of liking it because it's changed.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Oh yeah, and once you open that door, you can't
go back exactly. And they don't want to change you
right there.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's the thing like you have to want better to
do better. And I'm so glad that I am better
because you know, my life has been a perfect reflection
of embracing the calmness instead of the chaos.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yes, yes, because you brace the chaos, what's going to happen,
and you're gonna get more of it because that's.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Where your energy's going exactly. And you know what, I
found that most people, when you are unbothered, they get
bothered by you not being bothered by that.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
They don't understand I'm good.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
You good like I don't need to argue, I don't
need to raise my voice, I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Be a that's the toxic civity that lives around us,
you know.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah yeah, but this isn't a they do.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It bad so they want you to do bad.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
That misery loves company, right yeah yeah, but I refuse
to take up residence and know the hotel are on
that property at all, So miss me with that.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
We should do it.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
We should do a meditation session together, you know, invite
all your viewers on here for like a listen, listening
learn or whatever, you know. Fifteen twenty minutes, thirty minutes,
whatever that might be, and just kind of introduce them
to the different ways of listening to music.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Absolutely, I would love that we would talk about this
when the camera started rolling, for sure. Yes, but before
we get out of here at as, are there any
words of encouragement or empowerment that you would like to
lead with the listeners today about life, love and all
that other shit.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, just I mean, take responsibility of your life, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
There's there's so many things that's.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Happening for the mental from the you know, gain weight
or might be and it's so easy to blame it
on somebody's or look for somebody else to help guide you.
But just know that that you are the only guy
that you need, everything that you need, all the answers
that you need. Yeah, you can pray to God, but
you also got to participate in your prayer too as well.
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You can't say God, send me a new job and
then not go out there and go look for the job.
You know, you got to participate in the goals that
you set and and self motivate yourself. I had to
learn that I was looking for someone to matter. I'll
be telling my friends motivate me, man, tell me it's
gonna be all right. And then they would tell me
and it just went right through me. It didn't really stick.
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It was only when I started motivating myself and visualizing
my future how I wanted to be. I would get
excited for what's not even here yet because I know
it's coming, because I know where to go get it at. So,
like you said, like Martin Luther King said, you don't
have to see the whole staircase.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
You just gotta take the first step. So take that
first step. Start trying to know yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Like Kiki said, you know, if you got a headache,
let's figure out what's causing that headache. You know you're
gaining weight, Let's figure out why you're gaining weight, Like
figure out the wise and then you'll start to see
your life start to transmit transform because of you. And
that ain't nothing going against Christ, that ain't nothing going
against God.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
God wants you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
He made you as this superior being to do these things,
not just to cry out help me, help me, help me,
help me. You're not a You're not a help case.
You know you're you're the children of God. I mean,
come on now, let's.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Act yeah, act like it. Yeah, yes, listen, you're gonna
drop the mic on that ace and I will be
working on something for you. Guys can participate in learning
how to meditate and get into the music that will
help come to mind, body, and soul so that you
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can live with the great Spirit. Because you only get
one body, so why not be good to it so
that it can continue to be good to you. With
that being said, you guys have been listening to another
episode of Kicking with Kiki, Life, Love and all that
other ship. I am back every Thursday for a new
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make sure you tap in all right later and purple
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Hug all right, all right,
Welcome to Chicken and Kiki kicking it you Ki Ki
kicking the ki Ki for a little personality, switching up
the storyline on God we making that story and one
day at the time much problems to the side. Enjoy yourself,
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free your mind, Chicken Ki, keep what's up, y'all, and
welcome to another episode of Kicking at with Kiki, Life,
Love and all the other ship. I am your host,
Kiki Shanel, Award winning author, lifestyle blogger, and certified life coach.
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Today I am with a special guest, someone that I've
known for a very long time, and he is coming
and kicking with me today. But you guys know how
I like to do. I like to give my guests
the opportunity to introduce themselves. So, hey, friend, how what's
going on?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Class base?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Listen? Tell the people who you are, what you do?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Awesome? Yeah, well, you know they call me Ace now
so hey back in the day.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But yeah, I mean, I'm definitely a graduate from the
wonderful Saint Alena in Greensburg and graduated nineteen ninety five
and been living out here in Green Bay, Wisconsin, you know,
and just had to move out here to try and
live a better life for the family, you know, get
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some good opportunities, and which is great because they don't
cook out here, and I cook. So you know, I
started I teach cookie classes, I do private and home dinners.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I have my own cooking show on quite a few channels.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And then recently, about two years ago, I started playing
music really for relaxation and to help with anxiety and
dressed and all these other mental disorders.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I absolutely love it because it calms me down.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know, growing up the way we grew up, you know,
I used to punch holes in walls to release my anger,
and you know that just made it worse. So so
this really really helps to give me an outlet.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So I love it. I love that. I'm so proud
of you, and thank you for coming to kicking with me.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Today, my pleasure. I'm proud of you too.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I appreciate it. I appreciated Lizzy shout out the Greensburg
two of its home. People like living a dream of
making their their dreams of reality. So we're going to
get into life a little bit. Okay, now, you just
talked about how you cook and shout out to the packers.
(02:49):
That's my team.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Don't yeah, say he and I cooked for them too,
so you know quite a few of them.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Listen, don't have me to come visit.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Cook some They introduced you to a couple of packers.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Here you go. Yes, So I want to get into
talk about life, love and all on the podcast. Right,
So we're gonna talk a little bit about your love
for food. When did you know that you had a
passion for food?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Actually, my first job was PT truck stopping amen and
I got hired on as a dishwasher and one of
the cooks didn't want to cook my food. He was like,
you cook it. I'm like, man, I can't cook. He
was like, just watch me. And I watched this one
man cook football. It had to be about thirty forty
people in there. And I mean, I think the thing
(03:44):
that impressed me the most was how cool he was
to see someone in the midst of chaos and just
be just cool as ice and putting the orders out.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I said, I want to do that.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So then when I when I actually started cooking, I
first fell in love with it. Adrenaline rush, because there's
something about when there's a pack house and there's all
this cast and you're putting out orders ten minutes at
a time like that really stimulates me very well. But
then as I actually started to see the response at
what people got when they eat, I think that's what
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I most fell in love with, you know, to know
that that table over there, that family that's laughing and
having a good time. I played a big role in
that because the food is what they came there for.
So that's really what sparked my passion to know that
I wanted to cook. It's just unfortunately the restaurants kind
of a joke, you know what I mean, I'll be
(04:37):
honest with you. I mean, the pay is bad, the
hours has paid.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I was that close to walking away because I just
you know, once I got my degree and everything like
that in culinary, I just thought this can't be it.
And that's when I started to start on my own
LLC and start to work for myself. And I've been
fifteen years now self employed and thank.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
God, I go.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I haven't had to work a part time job to
sustain it. It's been all just self made money.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And sometimes you just have to know that if it's
aligned to your purpose, God will make a way. You
just have to take the steps and you keep taking steps.
So keep taking those steps, and God is gonna continue
to bless you. It looks good on you. I just
want to let you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Thank you, thank you. It feels good. It feels good.
You know when someone's leaving their purpose, you.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Know, absolutely, they just glow. We glow different, We go
through life different, and I love it. How does your
love for food influence your relationships and interactions with others?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well, really mainly when I started doing the cooking class part.
So you know, when I was cooking in the restaurants
and stuff like that, a lot of times I didn't
even see the people. You know, they table ten say
good job, that's about it. But when I started doing
private in home dinners, I mean I meet people for
the first time, and when I leave there, it's like family.
(05:59):
I mean, like invite me over for Thanksgiving, for Christmas.
You think that I've known them forever because these people
are opening up their homes and almost ten out of
ten times they've never experienced a private chef. So for
me to come in and get the little four year
old and have her help me make mac and cheese,
and you know, get everybody involved, like I get them
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all involved, so it really gives them an experience that
they'll remember forever, you know. And then on the cooking
class part, you know, there's so many people it ain't
like Louisiana and Louisiana you know, you frying chicken and folk,
you know what I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Not out here. I mean, they truly have lost the
art of cooking.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So you know, in reality, I'm helping these people save
their lives. You know, be honest with you, because I
coach a lot of people that you know, need to
be on special diets.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
They just don't know how to make it taste good.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
So then when I come in and I know that
I can't just teach them, I have to like motivate
them and inspire them and really like spark something in them.
And to see that spark when you know, you got
a sixty five year old man that's like, I ain't
cooking it, but let the woman cook that type and
all of a sudden, he tagging me on Facebook age
look what I made?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Look what I made.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know that that just brings me so much joy,
you know absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I love that. I love that. I love watching you
talk about it because you just light up so for
the people that's listening going over to the YouTube channel
so you can see his expressions when he's talking about
this this passion of food and you know, interacting with
people because where we come from in Louisiana, like I,
people know how to throw down oh yeah, oh yeah,
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So cooking was like a way of life for us.
And to come across people who just don't have that
type of foundation, how do you motivate them to even
start that with their own families?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
You really, you really, it all starts with the education.
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I have to make it look you know, And the
problem with some of the chefs these days is they
let the ego get the best of them. So they
want to take a simple, you know, sauce and make
it seem like, oh you gotta do this, you gotta
do to make themselves look big. Versus me, I'm like,
oh no, it's so simple. All you gotta do is
boo boo boo. And when I make it seem that simple,
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you see the people be like, oh it really is
not that hard. So really it's me making the education
for them so simple to where like like literally I
can have a seven year old coming there who ain't
never cooked before, and she ain't there throwing down with
me because I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like, oh, not hold it like this.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know, sometimes I gotta hold their hand, like literally,
I gotta hold they hand, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But but they get it.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You know, they really just lack the fundamentals of.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Cooking from scratch. You know.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
They can cook like they can take something out the box.
I hope they don't hear me say this about that.
They had all like that, they'd all like that. There's
a lot of processed food, eating, eating out the restaurants,
fast food. There's a lot of that going on out here,
you know, And just trying to encourage them that, you know,
now you get to put something healthy in your body
(09:12):
because you know all the ingredients you're putting in there,
and you get to sit down at the table with
your family and break bread versus you know, when you
go out. You know, kids got even Donald's in the room,
mom in the kitchen. You know, everybody eating separate. So
I'm trying to like bring it back to the old
schools where we can all sit down and talk about
what happened to school, you know. But the food gotta
(09:34):
be good though, you know, yeah, don't nobody want to
talk if it's nasty.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Right, all the conversation is going to lead.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And what ways do you find cooking similar to love?
Both in practice and it's emotional impact on the lives
that you touch as well as your own.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
See, you know, you know that's funny because you know
that's the I wrote a book in twenty thirteen, Eight
Steps to Your Perfect Meal, and that is the eighth
step is love. And it's funny because oh yeah, oh yeah,
oh yeah. My first book was I didn't want to
do a recipe book. I wanted to do a book
that gave people the tips, because recipe ain't gonna do
(10:20):
you no good if you don't know the fundamentals, you know.
So when I talk about love, I always compare Grandma's
cooking my mom's cooking. You know how you always say, man,
she puts some love in that. Or in Louisiana we
say they put their foot in it. But we also
say love, you know. And I tell people that love
is a serious emotion because I'm a firm believer like
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the law of attraction, but you think about you attract.
So if I'm making this food and I'm thinking about
how much they're gonna enjoy it. Oh, they're gonna love
when I hook them up with this, you know, I'm
thinking of mom putting all that into the food. When
they eat that, they eat that energy that I put
in there. And that's where what the grandma's do when
they make the food. They spend twelve thirteen hours making
(11:03):
all this pies. They ain't doing it because they love
to sweat in the kitchen for thirteen hours. They doing
it because they know they gonna bring their family together,
which is love, and they know that they're gonna get
it back, you know what I mean, Because that's how
love works.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You give it, you receive it, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So I teach people that I teach people to, you know,
and I don't mean love like being conceited. I mean
love like you know, love cooking, and not love like
the cooking process, but love the outcome that you're doing.
Love the fact that, okay, I'm doing something healthy for
my body. Love the fact that okay, I'm cooking for
my family. Now I'm giving them something instead of just
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here's ten dollars to go to McDonald's. You know, you participating,
you know, so That's why love plays a huge role
in pretty much everything I do, especially cooking.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, I love that, Yes, you have to. Like I love.
I don't cook as much as I would want to
because the way that I work, it's just ridiculous. But yeah,
it's rough when I do. That is my whole intention.
I'm cooking this with love so that my family can
experience that, they can taste it when they see the
presentation versus the flavor that you put in. You have
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to take some type of thought and behind preparing meals nowadays,
because like you said, fast food is so easy, and
they just pretty much giving it away because they know
that it's so harmful to your body. You know, why
not take a take an extra step by going to
the grocery store, yes, and getting the ingredients and then
coming it back and creating something that you know that
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is healthy because you're putting everything in yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes, And I always tell people when you do cook,
because I know it's rough, cook a big batch up,
you know, because then you got lunch the next day,
and then you can freeze it. People forget remember when
COVID hit, everyone was buying canned beans.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm like y'all know, y'all like the meat was just
rotting on the grocery store. I bet y'all can buy
some steaks and free he said. Stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know, now, you can't just freeze a piece of chicken,
throw it out and eat a piece of chicken. No,
you gotta shred that up, Make some chicken tacos, make
some chicken casse toy, you know, get creative to where
So now every time you go into the kitchen and
you cook a good meal, it doesn't feel like you're
starting from scratch.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You have a little bit of a backbone.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Absolutely, some type of foundation to grow from. I love it.
Can you share a memorable experience when a dish you
created brought people together in a meaningful way.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's so video of them. I mean literally every time.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I go to these people's homes and cook, I mean
it's like I would say, I had to honor the
cook for someone's sixtieth anniversary, and they were like eighty something,
almost ninety years old.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
All their kids was there, their grandkids was there. I
think one of the grand kids had a kid.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
There, you know, and they didn't want to go out
to eat because you got all the hustle and bustle
all around it. They just want an intimate moment, but
they wanted a spectacular meal. And me, being a private
chef in Green Bay, I'm like the only one I
knew I had a niche. When the first day I
got my LLC, I was ranked number two.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Like, I don't rank number two.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I ain't even I ain't got my website up because
no one does it. So to be able to bring
that experience to this sixty year anniversary, and because you
don't know that could have been, you know, their last
bet that was a memorable I just thought of another
memorable one that I'll shared with you.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I don't mean to give you two, but I got
to give you this one, Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So it was a brother that had He was real,
real sick, and he always did the cooking and he
wanted someone else to do it. And his brother reached
out to me and had me do it, and he
had pacific.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
This is how it's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So I went over there, I cooked state lobster, big
old meal, and and I played my music for them all,
and they all came into the living room and sat
around this this guy that was getting ready to pass
He passed awaited the next day, and I was like, wow,
just to know that I was able to give them
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that memorable moment of relaxing music and the good food
and the breaking bread ver you you. The only other
option was to order out. That would not have been
the same ordering Jimmy John's pizza, you know. So that
was probably my most emotional memory. He literally called me
the next day he said he literally held on for
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that one experience.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Wow, that just gave me chills. Oh my good And
I love hearing stuff like that because it was an
impactful moment for not just yourself, with that that family.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The family. Yes, yes, yes, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
We're gonna switch gears a little bit and we're gonna
talk about both of them. How do you balance the
demands of your career with your personal life and relationships.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, I made my career my hobby, so if I
had other hobbies on top of my career, I'll be
all over the place.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So if I.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Want to take a trip up north to the beautiful
Doric County that they got up there, I would literally book.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
An event up there.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
So then one I ain't got stress about spend any
money because you know, that's always the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And I'll work from like.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Eight to ten two hours, and then I got two
days off and they don't put me up in a
hotel for two days. They done gave me all these expenses,
so I get to have fun, but I'm still working,
you know what I mean. So that's a huge part
of it. I did play semi pro football for about
seventeen years. When brother got old, you know what I'm saying,
I had to give that up, and so I just
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really just poured myself into the cooking part. And I
do love it, and I do I do love the
reaction that I get from people. So to bring that
personal into my bus and I know they say, don't
mixed business.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
With pleasure and all that kind of stuff. She might not.
You know, if it works time. If it worked, it
don't work for everybody. It don't work for me.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Nice And I think it's important to have that work
life balance so that you don't get burned out or
your family don't feel like that are being neglected and
things like that, because when you are trying to provide
for your family, you have to work the bills. The
bills will be there, and so we have to make
sure that I know. For me, I have to make
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sure that I'm setting aside when it's when I when
I'm leaving my office, work is left there, and when
I walk into my living room, I am home and
my family can feel my presence. Because I love interaction
with the people that I love. I love meaningful experiences.
I don't like small talk. So when I have an
opportunity to be present, fully present in the moment, all
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I'm gonna do that, and I'm gonna make sure that
they know that I'm there. What is a dish that
represents your idea of love? And why?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh? I would say, you know, and I make so many.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I have over one hundred items on my menu, but
I would say my New Orleans bread pudding with my
whiskey cream sauce.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And not that it's the best dessert that I make.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's just because it's such comfort food, you know, and
out here they drink a lot. So like when I
say whiskey cream sauce, Oh my lord, you just thought
i'd put some liquid gold up in there. I mean,
just the response that you get from people, you know,
it just I mean I have people eat it and
be like man, I feel like I'm home, you know,
and the year that it's like okay, okay, just because
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it's so comforting and they don't get real bread puts
then out here. You know, I went to a restaurant
when I came out here, and they had the nerve
to put wonderbread slices and vanilla pudding. That's what I said,
welcome to What's GANSI And so you can imagine pulling
bread out of pudding. I'm like, I don't even know
why they say putting because the ain't nothing putting about it, right,
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So you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Wow, Yeah, I love that. I love it. I'm not
I'm not rid of a big fan of bread pudding,
but I did find some like a couple of years
ago that I love and it was made it is
made out of Krispy Kreme donuts. So it was delicious,
and it's like, I'm like, I know it's unhealthy, but
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if I had to eat it, I'm gonna eat it.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I mean, I mean, I mean, in reality, the only
thing that's not healthy about it I used less brown sugar.
See when I worked in the Louisiana restaurant, I can
tell you why you might not like it. As they're
eating making sandwiches, they have a tub at the bottom
and they throw all the.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
End pieces of the bread.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's what they used to make bread, putting the nasty
end pieces that nobody wants.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
See how I love that French bread, real bread.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
But I love the M pieces. I love the M pieces.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
See I know some people do love it. I'm not
a fan. I'm not. I want that soft, creamy bread.
I don't want that the same way.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Pieces save me. The M pieces, like the N pieces,
hold the whole thing together, and without fling it would
be nothing, it would be falling apart.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So yeah, I guess, so, I guess. So we'll save
the ball for you.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Okay, all right, so let's change Let's change gears. Let's
change gears. We're gonna talk about music. Now we've talked
about the cooking side, we'll talk about the music. Good Buffalo,
How did he come about? And why? Why do you?
Why do you? Why the name? Let's put it like that,
How did good Buffalo come about? And what inspired the name?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Good question? Good question.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So as I'm getting older, I'm starting to realize that
I'm more than the color of my skin. You know,
and Louisiana, they're just like you black, You're black. I'm like, well,
black ain't even a race, that's just a color in
the crown. By what do you mean by that? And
I never really know my heritage. I just know my
mom and my grandmother. Come to find out, both grandmothers
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are both sides of Cherokee Indian full blooded. And I'm like, okay,
well I knew all these light skinning people, you know,
they got to be more into the story. They just
like black, they mixed with something. So as I'm getting older,
I'm starting to embrace because I want to embrace.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
My first album is called Know Thyself, you know, so
I want to know all about myself, not my.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Personality, but my DNA too as well.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So ironically, I was at one of those local night
US one stops and I was demoing Buffalo and a
chief from Las Vegas came in and he was so
impressed because you know, I marinated it. I put the
Cajun season on it. He's like, I ain't never had
nothing like this before. And I felt and this is
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before I even started playing music. I'm like, I feel
like I need a spiritual name. And he went back
to Vegas. He went into his tent. He said he
meditated for like two days, and he came back and
he said, good Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
At first, I was kind.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Of like, man, I wanted to be like good wolf
for good tiger, you know, I want to be you know. Yeah,
And then when I looked up what does buffalo mean?
So the buffalo is one of the few animals that
when the storm comes, instead of running away from the storm,
it puts his head down and goes through the storm
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because he knows the quickest way through that storm is
to move through it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I'm like, dog call it.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
That's me right there, because I didn't have so many
challenges moving out here, and I literally just put the
head down and just go through it and go through
the you know, it's hard, you know what I mean,
But I just go through it and I always come out.
I feel like I always come out first, you know.
So that's when that name stick with me. So then
when the music came, you know, everyone's like, what's your
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stage name? And I'm like, well, Ace is my name.
But it did really make Ace meditation. You know, football
worked great, but this I'm like, I'm gonna go with
good Buffalo. And first I was a little nervous saying
it because you know, out here people were like good Buffalo,
you know, they make a little fun or whatever. But
then it just stuck. And then now, I mean they
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introduced it. I was just at the Music Awards. I
was one of the finalists and they they they don't
even say Ace no more. It's it's good Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
They except it. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
So I'm gonna roll with that until this life is
is no more.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yes, I love that. I love that. So what similarities
do you see between composing music and experience and love.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Well, see, the music allows me to express my soul
and my heart to others. I learned non traditional, so
I didn't learn through sheet music, which is most people
that play instruments, they do.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
The sheet music.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But the problem with that is every time they play,
they play someone else's song. Someone wrote that song for them.
So the old school, most of the flutes that I play,
some of them go back fifteen thousand years. I mean
they're so ancient and back then they didn't have sheet
music in papers and all. In orchestra, they literally drill
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some holes in a piece of bed and figured out
how to make it sound good, and they sit and
they played from their art. They call it. In Chinese culture,
it's called suiz. So that's blowing and playing from your soul.
So then when people will hear me, they literally get
a chance to express and to feel my soul because
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I don't know what I'm playing. I just closed my
eyes and whatever comes to me, that's what comes out.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And they feel that.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I mean, they cry, they say they're inspired, they say
some people say their life is on a different path.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now. I had a one lady, she was almost eighty
years old.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I was playing an African drum and she said, that
was the first time I didn't feel angry. I felt
like I belonged on this earth and here this woman
been here eighty years. Wow, that's the love that I'm
able to bring because I'm able to express my love
through the music my soul.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Wow, that was so deep. For the first time in
eighty years, she felt like she belonged while she was angry.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And this was the white lady.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
This wasn't like, you know, a black person living in
a white world trying know she she you know, all
her peers or all just like her. She just didn't
feel because those the music is so ancient to where
even if you've never heard it before, you're gonna feel like, man,
I feel this because in reality, it's in your DNA.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You're great great great great great great great great.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Great grandmother or grandfather probably knew this type of music.
You just didn't hear it, but it's in your DNA.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Right absolutely. Can you describe a song you've written that
whole significant personal meaning related to life.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, my first song that I wrote was the name
of my album, Know thy Self.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And to be clear, I don't technically write songs, so
it's not traditional. Normally a musician will go in there,
they'll write it all out on paper, they'll practice it
like fifty million times before they record it. When I
record my first album, I literally took my cell phone.
I didn't even have a speaker and none of my
phone and put it right next and I close my
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eyes and I thought of the moment, like how do
I feel?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And I just play it.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And then once I play it and I'm editing and
I'm listening to it, the names come to me, you know,
you know, Spirit of the Soul or whatever it might be.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
The names just come to me.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I am actually right now writing my fourth album, you know,
with about twelve fourteen songs in each one. So know
thatyself was the biggest connection because it wasn't just a song.
It's a message, you know, that I want people to
know because they don't. People a lot of times these days,
they don't really know theirself. They know this ego that
they try and present. But I always tell people, if
(27:41):
if you put on a different mask when you go
to work and when you go to church, and when
you go out with your friends and when you come home,
if these are all different.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
People, you don't know yourself at all. You're not being yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Neither, right, you know, So to find your true self
and trust that some people might not like your true self,
and that's okay, you know, but it's very important to
release that soul from his body and let it express itself.
I was able to do that, and it's just been
a magical journey because I'm doing things that I never
(28:14):
in a million years thought i would be playing an
instrument yet alone, meditative flutes from China and Ukraine and
all these different exoety but I played the multiple different
ones because the message is if I can bring all
these cultures together and play these flutes and make them
all sound harmonious, like they belong together, how is that
(28:37):
any different than how the world should be. Everything's so
separate now, you know, Chinese people over here, black over here,
white over here, Mexican over here. No one's wanting to
like dance together anymore. So I'm trying to bring that
back through the music.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I love that, and music is like a love language
of mind. It has helped me through so many challenges.
And I know a couple of years ago I have
went on a spiritual journey that helped me heal from loss,
and I found out so much stuff about myself. So
as you became a musician and playing all of these
different divice, you know, instruments and things like that, encountering
(29:14):
different people and giving them different experiences, how has it
helped your life when you come when it comes to
mental help wise? Because I know, you know we all
have some form of anxiety and mental illnesses not talked about,
especially in our community. So but how has your love
for music and making people feel good helped you stay
(29:35):
in a good hitspace.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
As I see that, I'm actually resurrecting these people's cultures.
I mean perfect example, in January, I played for the
Chinese New Year. I'm the only brother there. They I'm
dressed up in Chinese atower. They think I'm a costume person.
They think I'm like entertainment, go dance around. I'm like,
oh no, I'm fish to play some Chinese instruments. And
then I'm playing these instrum and I'm like, have you
(30:00):
ever heard of the Chinese show?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So I was like, none of these people don't even
know these is they instruments, but because they're so Americanized,
they forgot. So it's like being able to help them remember.
It really gives me a full purpose. And then as
far as for myself, it is amazing. When I say,
Kiki is amazing. Like if you think of this, whenever
you get upset, what do they tell you.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Take a deep breath, calm down, relax.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I have to do that to play these flutes, and
like the Chinese, Japanese flutes, the shakahachi, this is what
the Buddhist monks play, this is what the Samurai warriors
play to get into these different states of conscience. And
I understand why because every time I play, I have
to take a deep breath in, I have to type
my stomach muscles. I have to hold it and release
(30:50):
it as slow as possible. Well, what that's doing is
that's leaving the oxygen in my body more.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
That's zenim it.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
When I'm done, I might play for There's sometimes I
play for lie five hours straight and I'm talking about,
ain't a stress in the world.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I could literally have the worst day.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'll come upstairs, I put on my headphones, I'll pick
that flute up and within seconds, I'm talking like thirty
forty seconds, it's gone. Because I studied not just the music,
but I study how frequency and sound affects the body
when you're dealing on a on a on a micro level,
and it works for all. My daughter will call me
(31:29):
in and all the babies will be just crying, and
all they won't shut up. She threatens them now and says,
Papa gonna get them flutes. And I'm talking about when
I hit them with the flutes. I mean it's like
I slapped them with the vibrations and they just and
then about five minutes later they all.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Sleep sleep, yes, you.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Know, And that brings me joy to know that you know,
there's other options.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
I mean, you know, we grew up there, like running
vacuum cleaner. I don't want to hear no vacuum cleaner,
you know, can you know?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Or they played piano music or something something that has
its own frequency, but I understand, you know, are you
familiar with the chakra system? Yeah, so each seven crimematic
musical note is connected to the chota. So when people
are like, oh, I'm having heart issues, We'll let me
go get my kia F you know what I'm saying,
Or I'm having digestive stomach, well, let me get my
(32:19):
kiya D.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And it works, It really works. It's just a matter
of getting people to believe it, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
And that's the thing though, we are so close minded
about the things that we don't know. And I know
when I started liking, like, you know, zen work and
yoga and getting to know myself on a more spiritual
level through meditation and stuff like that, I had to
explain to some family members just because I'm meditating, that
does not mean that I'm trying to conjure up any
(32:47):
type of spirits or if you go into something with
a negative outcome or a negative intention. Guess what you're
gonna get. You don't get that if you go through life,
moving through any thing with love and good attention, positivity
and spiritual growth and fulfillment, that's what you're gonna get.
(33:09):
So you know, I used to suffer from my grains
all the time. Started when I was fifteen years old.
But to know, the more I learned about the shock
wards and the different pressure points on the body and
how frequency is to listen to, I don't get them
as much as I used to because I'm tapped into that.
I know how to press myself right here or something
and then close my eyes and take myself to a
(33:30):
different place, and I'm coming to mind so that the
blood can flow freely and it just releases all of
those negative toxins and all the other stuff, and that
energy just flows out of you. So I love that
I'm married.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You just did the perfect example of my album Know Thyself.
You knew, you know what you need to do to
fix it, versus people just complain about it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh my head hurt. What you're gonna do about it?
You know?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
They did the same way when I played the flutes,
but look I hit them with the Bible. I'm like,
they're like, well, you know, we don't get you know,
I was trying to get into the churches.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I'm like, let me play some of this music. They're like,
oh no, that's that's that's the devil. I'm like, wait,
hold on, now, hold on now.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Let me get my liar heart that King David played.
Let me get my trumpet that the angels played. Let
me get my flute that this person played. They like, oh,
I'm like, you think they had a drum set in
the middle of the Middle East back in two thousand BC.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You think they had an organ out there.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Let me bring you back to the original music that
Jesus was listening to.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay, I want to hear that.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
They don't want to hear that, because what were we
supposed to hear?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
This is what they listened to two thousand years ago?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Okay. Yeah, And I love, I love, I love. I
love to hear you talk about that because they say
the same thing about crystals and stuff like that, and
it's all from the earth, but it's all about how
you perceive it. I got my anthist and I got
a table for right.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, that's my burstone. Yes, yeah, because God don't make
no junk. Everything has value.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I'm like, why can they Why can they use crystals
to power your TV and power your watches and make
weapons of mass destructure. They're using the same crystals. The
first radio was broadcast through a freaking crystal. But yet
I want the means of the earth calm me. Well,
guess if God has something dis he wouldn't have made
us of crystals because we have the copper in our body.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We have the zinc that's in our body.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
So if I want to wear a zinc necklace, can
you explain to me what is wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Because it is in my body and God created me.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
But you're right, it's because they don't know and they
don't have the knowledge, and they fear what they don't know,
and don't.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Get us That's exactly, And don't get us wrong. There
is for everything that is good, there is something that's
not good. So they do have people out there that's
using things that are supposed to be beautiful for something
that's negative and evil. Don't buy into that. Ask God
to protect you, protect you from all of that, and
you shall pete protect it.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, everything has side.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Everything We can heal you and food can kill you.
A gun can protect you, and a gun can kill you.
It's all about your intentions. You said that right on
the money.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely, So what how do you navigate the
challenges of maintaining professional and personal relationships when it comes
to pursuing your music career. Have you found any challenges?
I know you just talked about one of not being
able to go into churches and through the stuff like that,
But have you found any other challenges when you informed
(36:41):
like your family, Hey, I'm getting ready to tap into
a new career right here.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I mean, be honest with you, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I you know, I just separated myself from those people.
If you ain't on my vibe, then we just I
don't care if you're my first cousin, second cousin. It
just it is what it is. I can't let you
push me off the boat, you know. So the people
that are in my circle, really it's just my mom,
my sister, you know, my wife, my kids. You know,
they've all been real, real supportive. None of them knew
(37:10):
it was gonna turn into such a career. They just like, oh,
look at Ace. He got a little flute, you know,
he trying to play a little something so and then
all of a sudden, I'm on the news for mental
health Awareness Day, you know, because it I'm telling you
that the first first time I picked up and blew
into the flute, I knew it was gonna be I
looked at my wife for said, I'm gonna be a
(37:30):
famous flute player, and not famous because I want to
be on TV, famous because I want this message out
to the world. And I would tell people that and
at first they would laugh because you know, I wasn't good.
But then they remember when I told them I was
gonna be on TV and have my own cooking show too,
So they was.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like, okay, well you said that, you did that.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
What they didn't realize is I got a little bit
of an exception obsession from him, which makes me practice
every day most music this you know, you thirty minutes here,
thirty minutes when they can in between breaks. Oh no,
I'm every day. If I can't sleep at night, I
picked the flute up and play for an hour. I'll
(38:10):
be playing the flute and be dozen off, you know,
and then I'll go to sleep. So the amount of
time that I put into it really has just made
my career expand. So now when people were like, you know,
I got to kick back. You know, oh what, you're
trying to be a musician, but you don't want to
cook no more. So I had to educate them and
be like, no, I don't have to be as the
chef for the rest of my life. And that's why
(38:32):
I think people go wrong. They get this one identity
you the doctor. So what that's all you good for?
That's your purpose in life is just to be a doctor.
Why can't you be a musician too? Why can't you
play a sport or do anything? Because we just train
and just like the B movie. You see the B movie,
pick your one job for the rest of your life
and be happy with it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm like, I refuse right absolutely, because you missed out
on different columns that you are attached to. Your purpose
is big to you. And when people understand their purpose,
they know that I have different layers to this purpose.
And it's about helping others tap into a new mindset
to understand that hey, you can have this too. Yes, yes,
(39:14):
but this has been amazing. So we know that you
are a chef, we know that you are an artists,
we know that you are an author and all the things.
So tell the listeners how they can support you. Where
you hang out on social media? How can we get
the album, the books, all the things. Go ahead and
plug Ace Good Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah yeah yeah right right yeah, well, I mean, you know,
you can definitely go onto my website Chefchampion dot com.
I have everything on there. All my social media handles
are on there. My YouTube channel on demand videos, you know.
My my YouTube channel for my music is Good Buffalo
Spirit eleven eleven, you know, Facebook, Ace Champion, you know,
(40:00):
and just check it out. You know, my albums are
on there. I make them really cheap for you to
do a digital down. I ain't got no CDs. People
like where you see these at? I'm like, where your
CD player at? First of all? You know, so I
have it on digital download. They can download right today phone,
and I just encourage people, you know, just to listen
to it. You ain't got to like turn meditation relaxing
(40:20):
music on once you get all crazy, like you're kind
of too late. You want to like incorporate in your
every day just music repertoire. You know, when you go
into bed, play that music when you get up in
the morning. Play that music that's going to set the tone,
and eventually your cells are going to start getting used
to that common frequency and the body has to follow
(40:41):
and then you'll be calm. But if you want to
listen to the rap game and rock music and all
this up here, that's where all the stress is. I'm sorry,
you know, and stresses is very dangerous. People don't realize,
and especially in our culture. I mean, we be stressing.
I mean all the time and that and I tell
people that that's really this flight or fight stage. You know,
(41:05):
you're releasing all this quartisol in your body. And then
you wonder why you sick all the time. You think
it's because something you ate, because you got a cold.
Now it's all that negative energy that is a real
thing that's just built up and you have no way
to release it. So it's releasing itself through a disease
or through a running nose or whatever that might be.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Absolutely, listen, man, we have so much in coming. I'm
so excited that I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
That's awesome, because I guarantee you if we go down
to Greensbury, hey, we might not find too many people
on a level that we all right now and everybody.
Everybody's got their purpose and they got their time and
stuff like that. But I'm glad that you you found
the crystals and you found the act pressure, and you
learned about the chakras. And it's like you know that
(41:53):
that's that's that's you like, it's it's And then they
say chakras, Oh, that's all because the Buddhists thought of it.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
No, when you look at it, it's really an energy center.
These are things.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
This is no different than me talking about my heart,
are no different than me talking about my lungs. It's
just on a more of a smaller level that we
just weren't taught about.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Or it's called something different. It has caused something different,
and it's not referred to as a chakra. It's referred
to as what it is. Like you said, you know,
they call it.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Energy centers or the medical term.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
But yeah, but it's like again when people don't know,
when they don't know, they don't know, and they're afraid
to become open for fear of liking it because it's changed.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Oh yeah, and once you open that door, you can't
go back exactly. And they don't want to change you
right there.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's the thing like you have to want better to
do better. And I'm so glad that I am better
because you know, my life has been a perfect reflection
of embracing the calmness instead of the chaos.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yes, yes, because you brace the chaos, what's going to happen,
and you're gonna get more of it because that's.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Where your energy's going exactly. And you know what, I
found that most people, when you are unbothered, they get
bothered by you not being bothered by that.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
They don't understand I'm good.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
You good like I don't need to argue, I don't
need to raise my voice, I don't need to.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Be a that's the toxic civity that lives around us,
you know.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah yeah, but this isn't a they do.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
It bad so they want you to do bad.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
That misery loves company, right yeah yeah, but I refuse
to take up residence and know the hotel are on
that property at all, So miss me with that.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
We should do it.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
We should do a meditation session together, you know, invite
all your viewers on here for like a listen, listening
learn or whatever, you know. Fifteen twenty minutes, thirty minutes,
whatever that might be, and just kind of introduce them
to the different ways of listening to music.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Absolutely, I would love that we would talk about this
when the camera started rolling, for sure. Yes, but before
we get out of here at as, are there any
words of encouragement or empowerment that you would like to
lead with the listeners today about life, love and all
that other shit.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, just I mean, take responsibility of your life, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
There's there's so many things that's.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Happening for the mental from the you know, gain weight
or might be and it's so easy to blame it
on somebody's or look for somebody else to help guide you.
But just know that that you are the only guy
that you need, everything that you need, all the answers
that you need. Yeah, you can pray to God, but
you also got to participate in your prayer too as well.
(44:43):
You can't say God, send me a new job and
then not go out there and go look for the job.
You know, you got to participate in the goals that
you set and and self motivate yourself. I had to
learn that I was looking for someone to matter. I'll
be telling my friends motivate me, man, tell me it's
gonna be all right. And then they would tell me
and it just went right through me. It didn't really stick.
(45:04):
It was only when I started motivating myself and visualizing
my future how I wanted to be. I would get
excited for what's not even here yet because I know
it's coming, because I know where to go get it at. So,
like you said, like Martin Luther King said, you don't
have to see the whole staircase.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
You just gotta take the first step. So take that
first step. Start trying to know yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Like Kiki said, you know, if you got a headache,
let's figure out what's causing that headache. You know you're
gaining weight, Let's figure out why you're gaining weight, Like
figure out the wise and then you'll start to see
your life start to transmit transform because of you. And
that ain't nothing going against Christ, that ain't nothing going
against God.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
God wants you.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
He made you as this superior being to do these things,
not just to cry out help me, help me, help me,
help me. You're not a You're not a help case.
You know you're you're the children of God. I mean,
come on now, let's.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Act yeah, act like it. Yeah, yes, listen, you're gonna
drop the mic on that ace and I will be
working on something for you. Guys can participate in learning
how to meditate and get into the music that will
help come to mind, body, and soul so that you
(46:20):
can live with the great Spirit. Because you only get
one body, so why not be good to it so
that it can continue to be good to you. With
that being said, you guys have been listening to another
episode of Kicking with Kiki, Life, Love and all that
other ship. I am back every Thursday for a new
episode on all streaming platforms as well as YouTube, so
make sure you tap in all right later and purple
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Hug all right, all right,
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